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July 29th, 2013
12:12 PM ET
Jason Patric: Custody fight is for my sonActor Jason Patric is known for being press shy, but the star isn't staying quiet about his tense custody dispute with former girlfriend Danielle Schreiber. The actor told CNN's Chris Cuomo on "New Day" on Monday that it's been 23 weeks since he's last seen Gus, the 3-year-old boy who was born after Schreiber was inseminated with Patric's sperm in 2009.
Patric has said he gave his sperm intending to raise the child with Schreiber, and the actor has used financial support and photographs with Gus to prove his involvement as a father. Yet his ex disagrees, telling Katie Couric's talk show, "Katie," that Patric never intended to be a father but a sperm donor. In a statement to the media, Schreiber has pointed to a letter in which Patric said he wasn't ready to be a dad and that he asked to be left off the boy's birth certificate. That letter "is really a breakup letter, a love letter of frustration," Patric said Monday. "We tried to have kids for years; she had a very bad miscarriage. You do all those things and you watch how the nature of the relationship changes with that pressure and you doubt everything. You doubt yourself; I talk about my life, my career, everything in that letter, and can one be a father. But certainly I wanted to." As far as leaving his name off the birth certificate, Patric said he was being overprotective of his first child and was attempting to give Gus anonymity to protect him. Regardless, a judge ruled in Schreiber's favor in February as the unmarried couple never signed a contract before conception that identified Patric as Gus' father. "It's beyond devastating," Patric said. "I want to make sure this never happens to anyone else." Patric has inadvertently become a famous face for a heated debate over whether sperm donors should be allowed to sue for parental rights. Under California law, a man who donates sperm to a woman he's not married to isn't recognized as the resulting child's biological father without a contract before conception. A new bill is seeking to change the law. "This law is something that her lawyers found two months into our separation, and just perverted it and slipped me into it," Patric said Monday. "I was as shocked as can be when they hit me with those papers." The actor said that when his relationship with Schreiber ended they consulted with a mediator. "The word donor was never raised," he said. Instead of a contract, Patric said they signed an "intended parent" form when they opted to do intrauterine insemination. To him, that meant he intended "to parent this child." "The word parent means to beget, birth, nourish or raise a child. So if I'm signing, 'Jason Patric intends to parent,' and Danielle Schreiber's signing intended parent next to me, not only are we the parents, but she's confirming that she wants to raise the child with me," Patric said. "(The judge) misinterpreted this. And that's the whole point of this bill. ... It's not really a new law, it's a clarification of the law's original intent. It was never meant to stop someone who just wasn't married and had to use (in vitro fertilization) from proving he's a father in another way." As the legislation has been interpreted, Patric continued, "I could have been with Danielle Schreiber for 16 years, and she could've met someone tomorrow and taken my child away and I would've had no recourse whatsoever. As I said, it's a clarification of something that was always meant to be. This is a new age, different relationships; people are having children later, so many people are availing themselves to this kind of reproductive technology, that this has far-reaching implications way beyond me." But whatever happens with the political battle, Patric said his fight is focused on Gus. "He's my son. And I'm his father and always have been," he said. "It's really about him. .... His father is gone now, and he has absolutely no idea what happened. You cannot do that to a child. People break up, they break up bad. I wasn't a perfect boyfriend, but I was a good, committed father all the time. You cannot use a child as a pawn, and we have laws for married people that prevent that. But unmarried people in this situation, I fell into a quirk. ... Relationships end (badly), and someone is now using a situation to hurt me, but it hurts the child." |
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With all the uninvolved, crappy parents out there, why would someone deny a dad the right to see his child and be a part of his life. Sadly, in most states, you have to pay child support no matter what, even your ex denies you visitation. It's a messed up system and the kids are ALWAYS the ones to suffer!
ME BOOKENDED....YOUR A FAT LOSER-WHO'S GONNA RESPECT A FAT LOSER LIKE YOU...
REPORT DA FUK
DaFuk you yappin' 'bout, troll?
What's with the one sided conversations? Who you even talkin' to? Have you lost yo' mind?
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WHAT CAN HE DO HE'S GOTTA DEFEND HER FOR A MONTHLY BJ...I HEAR YOUR CHRISTMAS
MORNING SUCKED...IM SORRY
I BUILT MY OWN BASEMENT AND ATTIC WITH NO HUSBAND...HOW COME YOU NEVER HAVE
CASH...LIAR.
What's with the one sided conversations? Who you even talkin' to? Have you lost yo' mind?
looks like he is going too win this case–amazing
He already lost the case. That's why he's trying to change the law. Sigh.
Just watched Jason Patrick on The View. I hope people out there don't misbelieve that there aren't many women out there who practice parental alienation on a regular basis, even doing so against court orders. It's not automatically assumed that women will always look out for whats in the best interest of the children, and will instead argue that the alienation of the father is in fact for the good of the children. When I as a father of two children are refused communication with my children via phone, or visits, is ridiculous. One should not be forced to live in court trying to get court orders enforced, and people should instead be mature enough to overcome emotions because the man for his own reasons feels that the relationship is unhealthy and would be a bad environment to raise his children in. Out of sheer spite, many women, many are allowed to get away with insane behavior, but on behalf of the children. At least he has the ability to fight financially, and I hope that he, as I am attempting to avoid, does not end up being the creepy dad peering through the fence of the school yard to see his children grow up. Is that better than a grown mature woman allowing visitation and allowing the father to be a regular part of the children's lives, without constantly attempting to control and dictate terms, and then pulling the children away 100%. Simply put, its been 18 months and only two calls from my children, Christmas day only, with paying child support, sending gifts, notes, cards, letters, etc, and all phone calls over this time period being ignored. There's no reasonable basis for such behavior to persist and more women should stand up against their own sisters. It destroys generations and limits them (our children) from being the best they can be. Good luck Jason, and any others who are embroiled in this battle. And shame on the women out there who behave in such ways.
I work in the CA State legislature as an intern and this bill passed UNANIMOUSLY in the Ca Senate (39-0). The bill that Mr Patric is supporting will not fundamentally change the sperm donor law here – parents who use sperm donors who are just sperm donors and have no intention of being a parent will be protected. What SB 115 does is AMEND the law to account for unmarried men who donated sperm but were also in relationship with the mother and child, which Mr Patric obviously was. And this bill gives him the right to go to court to get custody, to have his day in court. At the moment, he is not even allowed to go before a judge to show that he was involved with Gus and the mother for the first couple years of the child's life – the old law is that restrictive! SB 115 just lets fathers like Jason (not sperm donors who are not in relationship with the mother or kid) be able to put forth a case before a judge for custody. Whether the father gets custody is up to the evidence and the judge.
This is great news! Thank you for sharing with us, Hallie. I'm a supporter of this law because it gives the chance for fathers to see their sons and be proper fathers without the mother standing in the way. Plus, the old law was in dire need of making amends. Thankfully, this law that has just been passed through the Senate will suit modern times and the way different families function. Hopefully Jason, and all the other father's in the same situation, can become a part of their child's lives again. Do you know when the bill will go into action? I think I heard something about January 2014 on one interview with Fred Silberg (I think that's his surname)
Thank you for making this situation crystal clear. The original law was written in the 70s. The world of parenting (and means) has change a lot since then. The assembly should vote as the Senate. This clarifies the law so that the father can have his rights. Gus needs his father, Jason.
This lady really is a terrible woman.How can any one do this to her son.Teaching the kid dada and than never letting the kid see his dad again what normal person would do this This boy needs to be yanked from her for good be cause obviously she is a mental case
I agree with you. It is obvious he was involved in this child's life. Someday when this child is older, this child will likely resent her for not allowing his father to be part of his life. She should be happy this guy loves and wants to help with his son. So what if he didn't change a diaper, that is what she claims. BIG DEAL. You know maybe he felt he wasn't ready to be a parent, but it is obvious he fell in love with his son. And wouldn't want a world with out him. Do you know how many people felt they were not ready to be a parent? He is not the first and won't be the last to have that feeling. But he still came to realize that he did want to be a parent. Sounds like she is a woman scorned so she will hold this over his head, or have the last say. Which really sucks because the child will be the one that really suffers. Shame on her.
Jesus Christ does this woman not see the devastation that is to come?
She knows its him and she doesn't care–a more personal production should take place soon.
Lucy,
Didn't you say you are personal friends with them, yet you don't find it strange that she taught the baby that Jason was his dad ? You can tell that baby is using some of his first words. And in those first precious few, she chose to teach him DaDa. That speaks volumes.And it's clear the baby knows, even with a small one dimensional picture, who that man is. That wasnt learned in a day. That baby knows who his DaDa is. That baby has spent considerable and critical time with Jason in order to recognize an image and make the association.
This is a horrible miscarriage of justice. This woman will pay dearly. And I agree with previous posts, this poor boy will resent his mother for life once he knows. And in todays media age, he will know all too soon.
Birth certificates mean NOTHING. ZERO. If he had gotten her pregnant at a bar and disappeared for a year in PRISON, was never on the birth certificate, when he came out, he would sill be 50% liable minimum for everything financial in that childs life until 18 years of age. And would be given custody. This is purely a quirk of using IVF necessitating "giving " sperm . He never waived his rights. What more does one need to show on TV? Intent forms and dually signed school parent forms. Done deal. The facts indeed were NOT reviewed in court as Patrick told Cuomo that evidence was barred due to interpretation of statute. Ergo, the new law, making sure a man has rights to prove in court parentage. You are also wrong about a mothers actions. If a mother acts as if someone is the parent to her child, and her actions convince the man and child of this bond and relationship, that is called estoppel, and is binding. Funny, you talk about how you know them both 'personally" but you're not going to give your opinions, unless of course they are against Mr Patrick, as you have shown. Now I will say again, along with countless posters, WHY DID SHE TEACH THE BABY WHO HIS DADDY WAS? You, like the mother, refuse to find that question relevant , and both hide behind "LEGALLY", meaning the unfair, unintended loophole quirk. And frankly, morally this is the biggest question and most telling evidence. Ms. Shieber is an embarrassment as a mother.
Hypocrisy-Lucy is thy name.
Heidi - Obviously I was kidding about there being 10,000 forms. Unclench, girlfriend. I don't know how many forms there are... but I know there's at least big one - the birth certificate. I also know that I have children, and I have signed countless forms on their behalf. Presumably if Jason had anything else, he would have shown it on TV. Jim - I'm ignoring your question because it is legally not relevant. Again, what the mom did does not matter LEGALLY. I'm not going to give my opinion as to either party's motivations - that is for them to say. The only things I've stated here are facts that I'm sure were reviewed multiple times in LA Family Court.
You'll meet Lucy tomorrow..she is soooooooooo pretty for a 47 year old woman...cables up tomorrow kay?
Get ready lady. When that cute lil boy grows up and sees what you did to keep his pops from him when the man was fighting with all he had to be in his boys life, he is going to hate his mama. Guaranteed. It dont matter where it started, its how it ends.Women cant see through the hate bro. When he is old enough he will leave her. Enjoy the few years ya got, cause he will be gone. Trust me, happened to me and my brothers. Its sad, but more mad.Nothing break the bond of a pop and his boy.
grazie
This is truly a sad situation. First and foremost for Gus. He should be able to see his father, Jason. Relationships sometimes end . This is painful. But, to cause more ongoing pain for all by not allowing the father to see his son is selfish. I hope that the mother will realize this sooner than later. She once cared for Jason. I hope she will find it in her heart to hear his pleas and let him have a relationship with his son.
Who cares Lucy
If you do not want too get your woman pregnant do no release inside her especially if she is not stable. You still pay for that child if she's pregnant.
Hopefully he will get full custody of his child and get the child away from that awful woman.
Posted in wrong place before: The irony is that even if the law passes Jason will probably still lose in court. He didn't "welcome the child Into his home" (gus never spent a night there, jason didnt have a room or a crib for him) and he didn't "hold himself out as the father." (He lied about it until he sued for custody). So basically he'd be dismantling the donor system in CA without getting any benefit from it. Brilliant.
I get that he probably didn't do all the fatherly things that he should have done like giving him a room or a crib in his home (i'm assuming you personally know him to make that statement) but he obviously wants to have a relationship with his son and it appears to be a loving one. most men have a hard time with commitment and he is obviously one of those men but at the same time why not let Gus have that connection with his biological father? Gus will end up resenting this separation when he's older especially knowing his dad was fighting to see him. Danielle should just just tell herself that its better the relationship is over and that he probably wasn't a great guy for her and let go off the hate. its a waste of time and i'm sure there is someone out there that will make her happy in the way she needs them to and one day she will think "whew so glad i'm not with that guy anymore!" thats what tends to happen when you finally get out of a horrible relationship that only causes you pain.
Pollyann - you're missing my point. The law Jason is trying to have passed says that a sperm donor can get custody if he proves that he a) took the child into his home and b) presented himself as the child's father. Since he didn't do those things, he's not going to get custody even if the law passes. Whether this is fair or right is not for me to say.
I work in the CA State legislature as an intern and this bill passed UNANIMOUSLY in the Ca Senate (39-0). The bill that Mr Patric is supporting will not fundamentally change the sperm donor law here – parents of out and out sperm donors will be protected. What SB 115 does is AMEND the law to account for unmarried men who donated sperm but were also in relationship with the mother and child, which Mr Patric obviously was. And this bill gives him the right to go to court to get custody, to have his day in court. At the moment, he is not even allowed to go before a judge to show that he was involved with Gus and the mother for the first couple years of the child's life – the old law is that restrictive! SB 115 just lets fathers like Jason (not sperm donors who are not in relationship with the mother or kid) be able to put forth a case before a judge for custody. Whether the father gets custody is up to the evidence and the judge.
They brainwashed him on something....get too the root of the issue so we can close up the lie..thanks
I'm torn about this situation because it's such a "He said, She said ." From what I know of the "facts," they are pretty ambiguous but the thing I find really FISHY about the situation is Mr. Patric's lame explanation of why he didn't want to be named on the birth certificate i.e. not wanting the paparazzi to plague their lives, him being a celebrity and all.. Come on now, he keeps such a low profile. I haven't seen him in the People Mags or Us Weekly in YEARS! I am not denying he's an excellent actor but it's usually the reality stars, box office or TV stars who get followed because they are seen in all the trendy locations. Not reason enough to me to INTENTIONALLY leave your name off as the father on a B.C.! It sounds like this is a case of two people who had changes of hearts....Him not initially wanting him to be a father and her changing her mind about wanting him to be the father. They should come to a compromise for the sake of the child. If he is going to provide for him financially and emotionally it's in the child's best interest!
this is the most sensible comment on this blog
this woman should have that child taken away by child protective services. Erases the child's daddy? What is next? Change his name? Teach him that her next three boyfriends are now his daddy?
It is truly a tragic situation . This woman is unbalanced. One would think that at a time like this her family would step in for reason. We had to do that when my sister lost her mind when her husband left her and she tried to move the kids to Spain out of spite. Perhaps her family is what made her this way. She has no idea what a father is, or a true mother for that matter.
Gus's last name is and has always been Schreiber.
I've often wondered if Jason Patric has a big penis. Doubtful he would show me, but maybe one of his women would spill the beans and share some gossip. Maybe that dipsh!t commenter who knows his former girlfriend, Claudia? Come on, b!tch, ask your friend for me.
Now, just exactly why would you even wonder that? How weird are you?
you are a very sick person. Seek help for your issues. I am sure your welfare check includes mental visits. This is about a father and son being together.
I just watched this show with my now pregnant girlfriend after three rounds of IUI. We looked at each other and promised that no matter what happened in our lives, we would NEVER sacrifice our long sought baby's love and life tom our own hurt or pain. Thank you Mr Patrick for showing us what it truly means to lay yourself bare for the ultimate truth in life. God bless, and stay strong, Gus will search you.
are you conjoined twins or something? Just wondering since your screen name consists of two names. Or, are you boyfriend and girlfriend? Did you take turns typing the words in this post, like Paul types one word, then Ava types the next one and so on? Or, did you get really creative and type every other letter? You two are soooo cute! Do you also have a joint FB profile? That's soooo cute too!!!
I replied earlier but must've replied to a certain post, and now can't find it. So here it is again.
Shady? Dating someone else? Scared about being a parent? I mean, really? I think I'm a pretty decent guy, but I'm sure there are women I've dated in the past who could say a lot worse about me. But does that make me a bad dad? Does it have ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON MY PARENTING SKILLS? No. And does it mean I should LOSE MY SON? No. And you know what? I've had lots of doubts about being a father – most people I know have at one point or another gotten scared and doubted their ability or readiness to do justice to their children. The thing is, if they were married and this went down the exact same road – him dating other people, writing the letter, everything – he'd have his son. She found the ridiculous, archaic legal loophole and to make herself look better for being vindictive she's grasping at straws and trying to attack his character. What's sad is how many people apply rules in this situation, because he's a celebrity, that they wouldn't in their own lives.
Agreed. People can be crap to their partners but great parents. And legally, none of that means a hill of beans. My guess is she's a sad, controlling narcissist.
AMEN brother. You crystallized this. The man is an artist, a really friggin good one. They act and see things differently. We respect and dig this. Don't judge someones truth man. She clearly bought into this game. You can't have it both ways. To take a dad away because of evil spite, is death of the soul. This boy will know this one day , and will never trust his mother again. He will love her because thats his mom, but pity her, and suffer female relationships forever.
Two parents. One love. Grow up lady.
James, you're missing the point. He lied to his girlfriend of 2 years and never told her he had a kid! Never told his friends or family either. Calls his whole story not question.
It's 2013 right now, not 1973. Dig that, man. Groovy.
No one really knows the actual true story except for Jason and Danielle. Unfortunately the situation has gotten so ugly that they probably both can't see clear of the real details. The bottom line is Jason could have been a complete nightmare as a boyfriend (as he admitted on the show this morning) but that doesn't mean Danielle should deprive Gus from having his father be a part of this life. She said that she doesn't have a problem with Jason having a relationship with Gus but thats obviously untrue since he has been kept away from his son for 23 weeks without a single response to letters, emails and phone calls to see him. I wish she would reconsider what she is doing. No matter how angry, hurt and bitter she is towards Jason and maybe her reasons are valid as a partner but not as a mother. She needs to look beyond her own feelings and see what Gus needs and wants.
Exactly. She might have valid reasons as a partner to be mad at time, but not as a mother. She's definitely making her own bed this.....he looks terrible and trying to take a loving father away from his son is definitely not the way to make friends.
Its all about GUS! he said – she said – it doesn't matter. Gus needs a FATHER AND A MOTHER!!!
This story is so tragic and heartbreaking. Is there any way to negotiate with the mother to agree to some kind of visitation while this legal mess is ironed out? It is inhuman to allow this to continue. It's really preposterous. It's not like this is ever going to "go away". Even if he is legally does not have custody, Jason Patric is always going to be Gus' father. There is no law that can stop that. It's clear that he is not going to stop fighting to be a part of his life. This could really damage this child in a few years when he inevitably learns about this whole situation and realize that he was cheated out of years of knowing his real dad. This story should not be viewed as gossip. I see it as a call to action. Something must be done and fast. It is unjust! Who cares if he said before he had a child that he was "not ready to be a dad"? Sharing that personal letter to use it as "evidence" is really wrong. It seems desperate. It sounds more like he meant he was not ready to be her husband. Besides, a lot of men aren't "ready to be a dad" when they are dealing with abstract concepts like "IVF" and "pregnancy" and even newborns! It is scary for most people. For most fathers I know the real bonding happens when their own flesh and blood looks at them and says "dada". There were memories and kisses and hugs shared between Jason and Gus in those photos. The mom was right there with them! The law is already against Jason. Why throw mud at him? He was obviously ready to be a dad in those pictures. Doesn't she remember those beautiful moments? I wish someone could just talk to Gus' mother and plead with her to let Jason visit his son. Can't anything be done???
thanks
If she is taking support he should be able to see him it is that simple. He did write a letter saying he was not ready to be a father, but we all make mistakes and she should allow him to see his son.
it has been widely reported that she never sought child support
Tommy-
not "women", that woman. dont blame us for this mess.
Denise, Yes you are right. There are good and bad people. And, then there is that poor child.
YOU ARE TOO BLAME WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO HACK.
If someone did this to me and my boy I'd tell anyone who would have me. I'd be handing out fliers with the info on them like lost children. I'd take a mega horn into the streets. I'd attack this like the child was stolen, because from what I see, he clearly was. I CANNOT even imagine what it would be like to lose a child and know that they wonder where you are, and you cant see them. This is a horrible story. What are women thinking?
So now you have to get a lawyer while you're trying to have a baby that you signed forms for? This country is a joke.
This lady is ugly with lies. Poor child. Fatherless nation and this is what money is spent on?
Couldn't you just write up a contract yourself? "We agree that we will co-parent this child." Boom done.
yay
Something about his story is fishy.
Drama. Drama. Drama.
Mitty you are 100% wrong. I am a lesbian and both my partner and I have separate children from different donors before we met. She used a fertility clinic in NY, and I actually used California Fertility Partners, which is the same clinic Patric and the mother used. In BOTH of our cases, different states, three years apart, you are offered Known Donor Waiver forms if the sperm is to be a donation with no rights or responsibilities , or Intended Parent Forms. The male has no reason to sign Intended forms because he is not having a procedure done to him. Any sperm is "biological" , the forms dont need to classify that
Jane - that was not my experience. I was never offered anything called a known donor waiver nor told that it existed. I'm in CA too.
Ms Ash you are correct. You either bring your own sperm and sign no forms, or you come with another and that person waives their rights or protects them. It appears very clear that Jason Patric intended to parent. Mitty has never had IVF, especially in California if she states this. The word "parent" means to raise or nourish a child. That is an agreement as well as a protection. My boyfriend at the time and I did five IUIs , took a year off to try naturally , and then saved up for IVF. Every time we were given the specific forms when asked what our status was as partners, and our plans for the resulting child. We are married now with a happy 18 month old, but even if we split, because the process is very draining, I would never keep Bella from her daddy. It is criminal what that angry bitter woman has done to that boy. He is not property, he is a gift from God, and shes lucky to be blessed. Believe me I know. Put the baby first, ALWAYS.
Did you name your daughter after Bella in Twilight?
No, I actually named her after Bellatrix LeStrange from the Harry Potter book series.
Jeannie - LOL! Total trailer trash move!
thanks
Hmmm. He pays for school, hands over money, takes us on vacation, we're happy, we're together, he's "daddy." Oh, wait, he broke up with me – nope, not "daddy." Seriously? Looks like when everything was working out for her she had no issue. This is a scorned woman and the one who suffers is her child, who can't speak up for himself or even understand what's happening. But watch out when he does finally learn the truth, as he is going to HATE his mother....
Agree. Why wouldnt the courts see this? If he wasnt the father why would she receive financial assistance and allow a relationship between the two. Unbelievable that she would deny this relationship soley becasue she no longer wants to be part of the fathers life. Its a take that move. She is attempting to punish him, but utlimately she will lose the respect of her son and the courts will over turn this. He has money so I am sure he will appeal and hire the best team to change to current system. She seems like an immature self aborsbed twit. He is the father both DNA and through his actions, these laws need to place more value on the father. He has no voice.
Dany Levy Chris, if I can be so frank – journalist to journalist – that was embarrassingly lazy and biased reporting and CNN should be ashamed. Ever bother to ask Mr. Patric why his name was not on the birth certificate, why he was not in the delivery room, why he was nowhere to be found for the child's first year (except dating another woman who he never told he had a child), why he wrote Danielle a letter clearly stating he was not ready to be a father and swore her to secrecy regarding their "arrangement..."and why – most importantly – he lost the case in court before trying to pass this bill? The court doesn't arbitrarily deny a "father" custody – everything in the law books looks after the best interest of the child. It's law 101. That was just unprofessional. I know it is tempting to get a "celebrity" on TV – hell yeah, it's good for ratings – and your show is new. But do your homework – or friggin" have an intern do it before you air a piece like this. I'd hope you do it for the integrity of CNN. – Dany
I seem to have read this somewhere before...
DanyLevy "The court doesn't arbitrarily deny a "father" custody – everything in the law books looks after the best interest of the child. It's law 101"
You know nothing of family court. It happens all the time. Its completely corrupt and has the lowest paying judges who have 20 cases a day and dont even read the entire briefs. I fought for my kids for over five years and spent every dime I had. My ex tried to alienate the way Patri'c's scorned ex is doing. I had to prove and disprove everything. The burden is ALL on the man in family court. It should be called Womans Family Court, its that biased. I feel your heart brother Patric, keep going, your boy will come for you.
As a child that grew up with a very uninvolved dad and single mom id have done anything to have my dad show some interest in wanting to see me or show up on time when he decided to be there. I longed for my dad and my mom and extended family minimized my desire. I clearly got the message not to talk about wanting to see him or hear from him. If I complained about his lack of interest or responsibility as I got older no one shut me up. The message was clear. I imagine my story is not unique. What is likely unique about it is that my dad changed. I was older when he did and he has become a great dad and an incredibly involved grandfather.
The reason Jason doesn't have Gus is solely based on a legal loophole that was precedent in the law, Jason has a significant amount of substantiated proof that he has been in all aspects of the word a daddy to Gus. HIs situation is quite tragic for his son and for him. I understand that if the law is amended he can have a retrial and not an appeal. Yes the loophole is on Danielle's side but I do believe that a father is much more than half of your DNA. Lets say Jason was a hesitant father. WHO CARES? He ACTED as the dad and IS the dad. He embraced his son with every ounce of his being and anyone that had seen him with Gus knows that.
For all of the little boys out there who want their dad's give these two the life together they deserve.
Dear DanDanL – your homework gets an F! Were you there?? Did you see Jason feeding and loving Gus? Have you seen all the pics they had together Internet and all over Dans home? This is only about a little boy named Gus. And a father named Jason Patric. He wants to see their son. NOT her. She is a selfish person and no one can believe what she is doing. This is so SAD. I can't believe you don't get that.
jason will be back stronger then ever with her out. all the best
If she did not want him to be a part of the child's life, then she should have never let him be a part of the child's life in any way. By allowing Mr. Patric to develop any kind of relationship with the child, she allowed him to be a parent and act as a father figure in the child's life and can't refer to him as just a donor. On the other hand, Patric should have taken responsibility from the beginning, and not putting his name on the birth certificate is just as bad as signing away your parental rights. Mistakes made on both sides all around and now a child will suffer for it.
Chris, if I can be so frank – journalist to journalist – that was embarrassingly lazy and biased reporting and CNN should be ashamed. Ever to bother to ask Mr. Patric why his name was not on the birth certificate, why he was not in the delivery room, why he was nowhere to be found for the child's first year (except dating another woman who he never told he had a child), why he wrote Danielle a letter clearly stating he was not ready to be a father and swore her to secrecy regarding their "arrangement..."and why – most importantly – he lost the case in court before trying to pass this bill? The court doesn't arbitrarily deny a "father" custody – everything in the law books looks after the best interest of the child. It's law 101. That was just unprofessional. I know it is tempting to get a "celebrity" on TV – hell yeah, it's good for ratings – and your show is new. But do your homework – or friggin' have an intern do it before you air a piece like this. I'd hope you do it for the integrity of CNN. – Dany
He lost the court case because of a legal loophole. And the Senator who WROTE the original act is the one who's fighting to amend it, precisely because of this and other such situations. A little boy just lost the father who loves him due to an out of date law, so no, everything in the law books do NOT look after the best interests of the child.
Dany, if I can be so frank -blogger to blogger – you sound like a complete Ass Head. If Chris is such a "lazy, biased reporter" why on earth is he getting paid the huge salary reporting on CNN and you're at home, with your five cats, blogging about Jason Patric??? I'm not sure who you're more jealous of, Chris or Jason they are both gorgeous and you can't blame them for that.
What Danielle is doing to this poor boy is horrible. Just disgusting. So many children grow up fatherless, and here's a man who wants nothing more than to love his son and be there for him – and she's put a stop to that out of a selfish need for vengeance. He intended to be the parent. The forms show it. The fact that he was in his son's life AS A FATHER shows it. And she was fine with that and embraced that until he broke up with her. (And please, him not having changed a diaper indicates WHAT exactly? That he wasn't a real father? If that's what she thinks makes a father she's just rendered half of the U.S. fatherless.) Anyhow. I don't care if they were a couple or not, or if he or she dated anyone else. Marriages can end at any time – being "a couple" has no bearing on the ability or desire to be a parent. Life happens. But you don't take someone's child away because your mad. You don't take your son's father away from him just because you can. Is Gus better off right now, not having his father who loves him in his life? No. Bottom line.
Perfectly put, DJ.
I couldn't agree with you more. Well said!
Biologically speaking, the mother is the source of the egg and the father is the source of the fertilizing sperm. All of the other dynamics are a result of the very loose (and necessary) cultural ranges of parenting in todays' world. Unless this man signed away his parental rights, he is the Daddy and should have all appropriate benefits and responsibilities. Likewise for the involved female. Everything else is just legal manipulation and disregard for the health and well being of the child. Selfish adults using babies as bayonets to wound exes. Disgusting behavior.
you speak only the truth..
Jason can be my daddy anytime!
What a tragedy. This poor boy being kept away from a father who loves and wants to be a part of his life. Ms. Schrieber should be ashamed of herself. If she loves her son as much as she says she does, she should allow him the opportunity to have a relationship with his dad. Personal feelings aside. Grow up and be a good parent.
Here's another one: http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Xa-PP12lkEE&desktop_uri=/watch?v=Xa-PP12lkEE
I say again, WHO CARES? Being a boyfriend has nothing to do with being a dad. I have been divorced twice, and now raise my kids plus my step kids. Father son or father daughter relationship is as sacred as the mothers.
Alos, I highly doubt you're a friend of anyone other than a Sheiber, being that if your friend wanted to talk about Patrick, she could. No one would post pics of their friend online.
You prove my point at what a vengeful person this bad mother is. I saw the show, I saw the evidence. SHe taught the baby who his father was and then made the dad disappear. This boy will HATE his mother one day. Guaranteed.
You saw his evidence. One side. You don't think she has her own stuff? Why do you think she won in court? She's just not trying to revive a faltering acting career by seeking out the media like a certain Mr. P. He got fired off a movie in may and sued her in June. Coincidence? I think not.
Dirk - Jason Patric obviously cares because he keeps repeating this part of his "story" over and over. What, we're not allowed to find the huge gaping holes in it? It's pretty obvious if you just look.
THANKS
Here's one https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+patric+joes+pizza&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=L6T2Ud_5JKeCiwKYu4HICQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CWjEMBmHBfcFLNM%3A
This is clearly a scorned Miss Sheiber, or some harpy friend. Who cares about anyone but the child. He clearly is the dad.
Well the court thought it was important enough to hear her testimony at trial.
Not a Friend of Danielle's. I'm a friend of Claudia's.
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"Harpy friend." Hello, woman hater. Aka mr. Patric.
Sounds like you have an ax to grind, lady. What's in it for you that you feel the need to keep posting about this? Financial incentive, or do you just have a personal vendetta against Jason Patric?
What makes you think I am female?
Oh, I don't know - from the wording of your sentences and the "feminine tenacity" of your "argument." You're either a woman or an effeminate man.
Oh, and also - a female more so than a male would feel that their shopping habits had reached the level of excess or compulsion, thus the choice of 'muststopshopping' for your blog name.
I think you are a bitter harpy and I am a woman!
In almost every one of your posts you have said something untruthful, and you call him the liar. You said that Mr. Patric said he and Danielle were together, yet on the Katie show he did in fact say they were not. You said he was fired from a movie, when even the director of the movie has stated he wasn't. Not for nothing but what does being released from a movie have to do with getting custody of his son. He isn't suing her for money...he just wants to be a father to his child.
I would NEVER want to be a friend of yours since you seem to feel free to post HER picture and HER personal information. What a horrible thing to do to someone you claim to be friends with.
If this woman only intended for him to be a sperm donor she should NEVER EVER have taught that child to call him Dada...That is cruel to the child and he is going to hate her someday for taking away a father who very clearly loves him. You keep bleating on and on about how he was dating someone else and talking about his career...but you are missing the very real point..The little boy! He deserves to have two parents who love him in his life. Just because the adults can't get along doesn't mean a little boy should lose the only father he knows and loves.
>>You said that Mr. Patric said he and Danielle were together, yet on the Katie show he did in fact say they were not.
He said they were a couple going through fertility treatments for years and were together when Gus was conceived.
That picture's been online for 3 years. And no one posted her last name. Relax.
>>I would NEVER want to be a friend of yours since you seem to feel free to post HER picture and HER personal information. What a horrible thing to do to someone you claim to be friends with.
@Mitty – he said we weren't living together, but let's have this child together and if the wounds heal then we can be together. (just watched it to make sure I heard it properly)
@Xanax – last name or not no one knew that picture was out there until this "friend" posted it on every forum. still disrespectful to do to a friend.
BDT - agree it isn't a nice thing to do to friend but it is important. He said in the interview that there was no secrecy, but he lied to his girlfriend about having a kid for years?? That's super super shady.
Shady? Dating someone else? Scared about being a parent? I mean, really? I think I'm a pretty decent guy, but I'm sure there are women I've dated in the past who could say a lot worse about me. But does that make me a bad dad? Does it have ANY IMPACT AT ALL ON MY PARENTING SKILLS? No. And does it mean I should LOSE MY SON? No. And you know what? I've had lots of doubts about being a father – most people I know have at one point or another gotten scared and doubted their ability or readiness to do justice to their children. The thing is, if they were married and this went down the exact same road – him dating other people, writing the letter, everything – he'd have his son. She found the ridiculous, archaic legal loophole and to make herself look better for being vindictive she's grasping at straws and trying to attack his character. What's sad is how many people apply rules in this situation, because he's a celebrity, that they wouldn't in their own lives.
This is not about you. Its about a boy named Gus Patric. He needs his father. I am sorry you don't have one. Its a wonderul thing to have both parents. You have the best of both worlds. Please go shopping and stop writing crap. Do you really want a little boy to grow up without a father? What if Danielle passed away? Give him to the state? You are a real certifiied nut case.
This is not about you. Its about a boy named Gus Patric. He needs his father. I am sorry you don't have one. Its a wonderul thing to have both parents. You have the best of both worlds. Please go shopping and stop writing crap. Do you really want a little boy to grow up without a father? What if Danielle passed away? Give him to the state? You are a real certifiied nut case.
Who is Gus Patric? Gus's last name is Schreiber, because Jason wanted to keep him a secret. Go search birth certificate records in LA county.
It goes to intent, paul. He never intended to be a dad to Gus. That's why he lied about it for years. You're hearing one side of the story.
Muststopshopping, you seem to be the expert on the trial (which as in all paternity and custody cases are sealed), good inside there. Mr Patricks dating habits as well as his career aspirations. Hmmm, wonder how and why you have all these strong insights and opinions.
You talk about INTENT. Since you are the expert on this couple, what was the mothers INTENT on signing Parent forms. What was her INTENT on writing Patrick down as the father on the school forms, and most importantly, what was her INTENT on teaching and praising the baby when he pointed to Patricks picture and said "DaDa" ?
Muststopshopping, to be honest, how do we know the woman in that picture was/is his girlfriend? They could just be friends, it could be his sister. As for your claim about being friends, I saw the advertising on that dating site you did in a previous comment about how your friend got married (Garbage Removed comment) – nice try on the promotion. As for your view on Jason's career aspirations, it's expressed clearly he's not in the slightest intrested in fame. With that Copperhead production, even the director stated that he didn't get fired, so that's your hypothesis out the window. Actually do some research before commenting proposterous things.
Anyway, I totally agree with Eliz. INTENDED PARENT means, INTENDED to be the PARENT. Danielle on the forms is an intended parent, and so is Jason. So it is obvious they INTENDED to co-parent this little boy. What matters most, is this little boy, a 3 year old child, is at the risk of losing his father completely. Unfortuantely, that has already happened. I just hope they are reunited before anymore damage can be done. Little Gus deserves both a mother and father who love him.
Huh? What dating site?
Muststopblogging,
What does Mr Patric owe you? What does he owe your friends? Why does everyone think a celebrity owes them anything of their personal life? His life is his own. I watched that show and was so moved that I just looked up his Katie and Today show appearances. First of all, that woman is a bitter, shriveled up shrunken apple. I couldnt believe one word out of her mouth. I am a woman, and a mother, and that woman is not only lying, but so selfish. All " My I Me Mine" what about the boy? It broke my heart. She says he owed her money so he paid for school, and therefore the school made him a parent? What world does she live on? You know how strict schools are with security now? I have a photoID badge to pick my girls up. Seeing is believing , and I saw that woman show the baby who his dad was, and then happily praise. Thats enough for me. She doesnt deserve that boy. Absolutely heartbreaking.
Patricia, your post is well written and thought provoking. In my opinion, if a celebrity goes on TV and involves us in a personal matter, he does owe us the truth. Why not just say, "yes, I was a donor, but then I got to know the kid and he was great, so I changed my mind." An argument could be made that that should be enough to get visitation or whatever. Why all the lies? And honestly, they are lies on his end. Not everything, but some things.
The dating website on how your friend found her husband. Nice try, but I saw the comment hours ago. Call this a conclusion to this dating website topic as my memory is very clear.
Bottom line is, this is about Gus. Not about Jason's dating life, Danielle's dating life – it is about a child whose father has been taken from him.
Harlow, I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. I've never been on a dating website in my life.
Muststopshopping, I thought there was a conclusion called on that one?
According to your comment before it was deleted, it wasn't you who went onto a dating site, it was your friend, who you claim is Jason's ex, and she is now married to him. Another comment was posted by a different person. Either someone posted under the same name as you and used your opinion on Claudia and knowledge of her and Jason, and if that is the case, I apologize, or it was you. Again, if it was only a person using your name to promote, I am sorry about my previous comment, but hope you can see why I thought it to be you.
This isn't about a dating site though, and I was merely pointing that out earlier to justify my comment on who the woman in the picture could have been, it is about Gus.
Muststopshopping – there was a post earlier with your name on it that pointed to a dating website – I saw it too but it has since been deleted...
As for the matter at hand – it was not Mr. Patric who went public with this information first, it was the mother who told her story to TMZ of all places (trash heap).
And to be perfectly blunt with you NO ONE but the two people involved know the exact truth about any of this. We can all speculate about what we have seen, but at the end of the day unless you were in the room when it happen all you hear is second hand.
I agree with Patricia, I have two children and work in their school they do not just list anyone as parent, just because they are paying the bills. And to praise a child for calling his father Dada and then ripping him out of his life is just cruel.
There's no way the mom is responsible for the TMZ story - they printed crazy stuff like she took sperm instead of money from Jason! And an unflattering bathing suit picture. Highly doubt that any woman would want that out there. Everyone knows TMZ has employees inside all the courts that give them confidential info.
I agree with BDT and Patricia, removing Gus' Dada is morally unjust. Though I may not be a mother, this is something anyone can see, The only reason he isn't legally recognized as the father, is because of a loophole Danielle's lawyers found about if the father is not married to the mother during the time of artificial insemination, then he is not the natural father. The Senator who originally wrote the bill is even fighting against this verdict made earlier this year.
Everything should be for the child's best interest. Currently, Gus has a person in his life he calls Dada, and was taken out once visitation, parental, and custiodial rights were not recognized by law. Something needs to be done to sort this out, for Gus' sake.
Why do these angry women continue to use kids as weapons?
You dont have to lie when the damn momma is having the boy call a picture of the actor 'daddy"
what a messed up thing to do to a baby
I just returned from a wonderful Dinah Shore Weekend getaway to find most of the trolls missing from the Marquee Blog. What happened?
What is a "Dinah Shore Weekend?"
It was due to the "hit abuse button" crusade. Nice not to have the trolls and the dating site all over the blog for a change.
HOW COULD THIS HAPPEN?!? This is the saddest thing I have ever seen. The mother is teaching the boy who his dad is. How did the courts let this happen? Give this boy his father. She is an awful person.
God bless you Jason. Keep fighting.
He's an actor and he's LYING.
Oh please! he and danielle were not a couple, at least not from 2008-2010. I know because he was dating my friend claudia! She didn't even know Gus existed. What a liar.
Can you prove this?? Any letters, texts or picutres???
Oh I guess she was lying when she signed his name on Fertility forms and then on pre school forms. Or maybe she was lying when she was teaching The baby who his dad was- JASON! I mean, what show did you just watch? This woman is horrible. He didnt change a diaper? LOL. We have three kids and my husband wouldn't know how to open the box.
You clearly dont have children, because the way he is holding that boy, and the boy to him, that is a bond.
Scorned woman alert. Ugly. What an ugly woman.
Who cares if he was dating ten women. She wanted his child, and it's clear that she wanted him to be the childs father. A paper trail that is hard to deny. I'm shocked he lost, and I'm sure has a strong appeal. I work for the Pennsylvania court system as a child custody evaluator and this is classic parental alienation coming from a bitter ex partner. She is not thinking about the child at all. She would be considered unfit in our state, unless there is clear evidence of abuse.
Here's a picture of them in 2010. http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/jason-patric-is-seen-at-joes-pizza-in-greenwich-village-on-news-photo/101222498
that could be anyone in that photo; the man's face is blocked so there's no way to tell if it's Jason Patric, or me for that matter. And even if it was - so what? What's your point?
There are more from same day where you can see her face. Google Jason patric pizza west village and look at zombio and Getty images.
My point is he's lying about how Gus came to be. He's saying he and Danielle were a couple and they were not. He's saying she is lying about his insistence on secrecy and she is not. FYI Claudia flew to la and testified at the trial. https://www.google.com/search?q=jason+patric+joes+pizza&client=safari&hl=en&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=L6T2Ud_5JKeCiwKYu4HICQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=320&bih=444#biv=i%7C1%3Bd%7CWjEMBmHBfcFLNM%3A
Frannie - I did IVF with a known donor and our forms say "intended parent" too. It means biological parent. It's not an agreement to raise the child together.
JEEZ, What a reprehensible non human you are. Directing people to go look at your "friend" to show she dated someone. Do you know how transparent and pathetic you look? It's people like you that force celebrities to hide. You have no regard for anyone.If your "friend" Claudine had intended to become part of this or any other story , she would have every avenue to do so without you. Instead you trash her as well.
If anything you have proved the vengeful, scorned Sheiber woman will stop at nothing to deny Gus a father. It looks like Jason patric is fighting just to be the daddy to his son. It doesnt matter what their relationship was, or how long it took to grow close.That boy clearly loves Jason. That is all that matters. Frannie 3 , you couldnt be more right.
Hi Leslie. Aka Jason.
Hello, muststopshopping, aka Claudia...
It is crazy that this woman is trying to deny her son his father. I agree with Sheila, most guys would try to run away for parental responsibilities in this case. Jason has always been a kind friend and person
" Jason has always been a kind friend and person" Uh, really Emily? How would YOU know?
The irony is that even if the law passes Jason will probably still lose in court. He didn't "welcome the child Into his home" (gus never spent a night there, jason didnt have a room or a crib for him) and he didn't "hold himself out as the father." (He lied about it until he sued for custody). So basically he'd be dismantling the donor system in CA without getting any benefit from it. Brilliant.
Dear Claudia, It sounds like you wanted Jason for yourself. I think the world is sad you two didn't make it as a couple oh well... keep looking. I am sure there is someone out there for you. And if I were you – I would stop sending people to look at pics of you with a celebrity. Not you best look I'm sure.
This is a travesty. Ms Schreiber makes me ashamed to be a single mother. Mr Patrick is an impassioned father when other men are running away from responsibility.
Sheila, Amen! You are so right. When we have a shortage of real men and real parents; here is a man who is a good parent. He should be with his son.