September 18th, 2012
01:32 PM ET
What Clint Eastwood still believes in
Clint Eastwood will stop by Ellen DeGeneres' daytime talk show today and, just as "Saturday Night Live" couldn't avoid parodying it, Eastwood will have to talk about that empty chair.
Not that he has any regrets. As DeGeneres points out in a clip from Tuesday's show, the 82-year-old actor/director isn't making any apologies. Say what you will about his talk with an invisible President Obama, but does Eastwood care?
That'd be a "no," he tells DeGeneres.
Eastwood explains his RNC speech
Eastwood gave his first interview about the infamous empty chair speech to HLN's Nischelle Turner.
The reaction was "interesting," Eastwood continues. "The Democrats who were watching thought I was going senile, and the Republicans knew I was. But it was actually just trying to enjoy myself in a way."
And while his speech was given at the Republican National Convention, he's really more of a Libertarian, Eastwood tells DeGeneres.
"Libertarian values, that's where Republicans used to be, when they were saving money and everything. Libertarian means you're sort of socially ... you leave everybody alone, but you believe in fiscal responsibility and you believe in government staying out of your life. I still believe in that," Eastwood says. "When I was 21 years old and started voting, I sort of became a Republican because that's the way they were thinking. But in the last few years, both sides have spent like drunken sailors."
With all of the political talk, it may be easy to forget that Eastwood's still a movie star, but his latest project, "Trouble with the Curve," opens Friday.
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Mr. Eastwood is a talented actor. Actors are hired to entertain and communicate to as audience. He certainly did that. I disagree with his polotics but if his skit made an poor impression the canidate has made and continues tomake a far worse one.
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first off im white n im voting obama...but i think its funny how any white person who doesn't vote obama just has 2 be racist...everything isn't about race...i love black ppl but i can tell you this ~ if there were a better candidate i would definitely vote for him or her cuz i don't wanna vote obama either but i would rather vote obama than romney! sicka ppl with complexes
wanna see his new movie later or next week.....very last movie....
I dont care what he believes but i love his movie and i am waiting for new movie.
Eastwood is a favorite of ours.
Clint is all man!
Clint Eastwood is what America is all about,
Mr. Eastwood should stick to acting as that is his arena of excellence.
... and filmmaking. Eastwood is an award-winning producer and director and he's probably a better director than an actor, having received four Oscar nominations for Best Director, winning twice.
Das my Actor nd my Hero,the Good
You hero supports a party that believes in butchering you Muslims by millions. LOL. Good luck with your hero worship.
janine..this was the guy next to us talking to an empy chair–remember?
To rob: he's white comment. grow up. where have you been. no one in thw usa is not mixed. with another race. are you hiding in the so called white race. you know you are mixed too.
Reply 2 Busd . . . . Yeah hes white but your mother is not. Gdub glenn
Reply 2 your name here . . . .no not a lazy black or mexican. Im a Black mexican who worked hard on your mother last night. Gdub glenn
Clint believes in Clint. Oh and Jaegermeister. He might even like Nyq**l
Its ridiculous and almost offensive to say Eastwood has more to do with a Romney downfall than Romney himself. Hes just an actor. Blind party lovers will find anything to throw at each other. Im proud to be a non-voter this year and will rewatch all the Eastwood i can.
You shouldn't waste your vote. If more people started voting outside the traditional big two parties, maybe politicians would start getting it. Vote Libertarian or Green. Start looking into the other parties like the Modern Whigs, but don't sit idly by just hoping that things will change for the better. Help make them change.
I love his movies, but know he is removed from social issues just like Romney. Carmel by the Sea where he was mayor has the highest avg income in the Nation. Its an Art Community, and the local laws are very restrictive. Just read property owners could not rent their property for under 30 days there. Businesses cannot have neon signs, live music, etc. Couldn't find out how he felt about local government imposing these restrictions, or if he approved them when he was mayor. So he was mayor of an exclusionary little rich community. Entertainers entertain, GOP was BIG STAGE.
The reason why bcz the president his black. Mr eastwood show no respect. And romney enjoy it, that's a shanm.
Clint love ya... GARY JOHNSON 2012 libertarian the way to be let gary debate cause without him in the debates it will be a statist press conference....
Saw him on Ellen yesterday and he couldn't have been nicer. He is such a nice guy. If you didn't see the interview watch it on Ellen.com Stop passing judgment on him because of one convention speech and open your small, narrow minds. If Obama and Ellen like him then he can't be a bad guy.
I love Clint Eastwood. I typically hate to the hear politics from an Actor. But, I love Clint Eastwood.
At least he's white.
Like tuco told blondie...it has 2 hold the weight of a pig. Gdub glenn
If this bores you so much, then why do you bother reading/commenting on the article? Is it because you are a loser and have no life?
Like tuco told blondie . . . It has 2 hold the weight of a pig. Fk clint eastwood. Gdub Glenn
Like tuco told blondie . . . It has 2 hold the weight of a pig. Fk clint eastwood. Gdub Glenn
For those who want to know, here are Eastwood's basic positions:
Unfortunately, he disagrees with the Romney/Ryan ticket on each and every one of those counts.
They are too stupid to put forth the effort to learn anything about him when instead they can just bash on him and sound stupid instead. If they watched him on Ellen yesterday they would have learned something
Why did the CNN blog remove the word "liberal" after "socially" from Eastwood's comments? He stated, "socially liberal."
If you need to ask that question then you don't understand what CNN is about.
Before accusing CNN of censorship, maybe you ought to listen to the video twice... What he says is: "A libertarian; that means you, sort of, socially leave everybody alone, and that you believe in fiscal responsibility and that you believe in government staying out of your life." Rather than focusing on the commonly used (and abused) concepts of liberalism and conservatism, he chooses to define libertarianism in a broader sense.
Clint rocks! Vote Republican!!!
It's called Alzheimer's with a big dash of stupid.
Really what an ignorant thing to say...are you a grown up.
FACT: HE IS A ACTOR......NOT A REAL COWBOY, A HERO, A WAR HERO, A POLICE, "ACTOR"
FOR MOVIES, THAT'S HIS JOB. HE IS A GOOD ACTOR. HE HAS BEEN ACTING FOR MANY
... and filmmaker.
Is there a swimming pool nearby? I feel a massive dump coming on...
He forgot his glasses and couldn't read the prompts, no speech on paper neither. Had to go it on his own. The chair was for him case he needed to sit his old a z z down. He said it himself. Clint was good in his day, day over. That the first time I thought he looked like a d@mn fool.
Uh ... that's not what Eastwood said. The issue wasn't the lack of his glasses because he was never planning to read prepared remarks and he asked that the chair be placed there not to sit down (as the Romney aide mistakenly believed), but as a spur-of-the-moment theatrical device.
Eastwood for president
Nothing Clint Eastwood could say would make me think less of him. He is an incredible actor, director and person. I will always admired him and what he stands for. I am not a Republican or a Democrat and feel both sides out of touch. So I guess I would have to agree with Mr. Eastwood on his politics – tho I don't think he should have spoke at any convention having said that.
still like him too.
I am still shocked by his hateful comments calling the President a "hoax," and his nasty comeback to the President's classy "I still like him" response to the rambling (one-sided) empty chair insult. He just joined Mel Gibson as the only other actor on my "too offensive to watch" list. He's either bigoted, mean-spirited, or both. I could forgive him if these were the rantings of a senile/dementia afflicted elderly man, but the truth is this is how the man feels. I'm just curious how much he was paid for his performance. To his one credit, and credibility/reliability as a paid spokesman, he has stood by his words. Maybe the Klan can book him as a speaker for their next Grand Wizard convention.
In response to Obama's response, Eastwood called Obama "charming" and "gracious."
Youre a true American Clint Eastwood, and my political values emulate yours precisely... Let's get back to a tougher, hardworking America
didn't know that....funny ... i was at the blue note 2 wks ago. ha.
No matter what his political leanings are I still like his movies and really appreciate his love of Jazz music.
This speech was in support of a GOP candidate who refuses to apologize for anything, and people think Clint has regrets?
What a crock, his comments were right on and the sheeples better get some help as the rest of use are tired of paying for their stupidity and the money has run out!
Vote Republican (it's easier than thinking)
Vote Democratic (your cigars will taste like fish)
If people are born gay doesnt that make it a birth defect? If it is a birth defect wonder if its treatable?
Thanks for asking and yes it is. It is called getting the genetic marker that causes it and applying the Liberal supported abortion technique. That will correct it. Thanks to the liberals abortion is available like it is for children that would be born without brains and other defects like you suggest!
Lou-youre an idiot. Abprtion is used by many women-dems and repubs-its been legal for 40 years now-aint going anywhere! and birth control, which is a form of abortion in some instances, is used by over 95% of women at some point in their life. Being gay is normal and healthy and a variant seen in over 1500 species of animals., Being GOP though, is mental retardation.
Is stupidity a birth defect?..With such uneducated meanderings please do us all a favor and don't reproduce!
If he doesn't like the Republicans either, why the heck was he speaking at the convention?
I'm a total democrat, but when you listen to Clint talking about his empty chair speech and what he was trying to say it makes sense, seems like he just got to theatrical.
Wait, in which of Clint's appearances does he play a wealthy bully, out to steal from the good, and hurt the poor?
Just the one at the RNC. And it was a lousy performance.
Thanks Uncle Harry.
You made my day by spoiling Romney's night.
If we followed the Libertarian way, Europe would be called Germany today.
she's been analyzed most of it is in circles and garbage...
‘America, our problems can not be solved’ by President Barack Obama because He is the Weakest Link of All.
Not at all true.
President Obama is a huge improvement over the last Republican president who not only couldn't solve problems, he caused them.
please Susan and observer give me factual examples. Otherwise go back to kissing your Barry idols nether region.
bear is not the butt of jokes–sybs is....
Speaking of Libertarians... Ron Paul was the only candidate worth voting for. Unfortunately, the Republicans wouldn't give him a chance... and now look at the pathetic Romney...
I still like Gary Johnson and will vote for him. Of course I realize he has no chance but I do hope he garners enough votes to make a statement to the donkeys and mamoths...
Wonder how much campaign money Ron Paul pocketed this cycle. Pretty good gig for a ol boy from Texas.
I would have voted for Paul, but now I feel Obama is the lesser of two evils, so my votes going to him.
Libertarians are a strange breed.
They are almost more socially liberal than the Democrats.
And way more fiscally conservative than the Republicans.
And they believe in a govt that fits on a postage stamp which 200 years ago was fine but today is very dangerous in a world of big govts that can bully.
"Big Govt" that can bully: That's exactly why we libertarians would prefer the Government fit on a postage stamp.
I want the next four years to be just like these last four, high unemployment, bigger government, higher taxes, less freedom, NO BUDGET, no improvement on the horizon, so I guess we'd better keep Obama.
I'm with YOU – let's keep Obama for another four years. And, let's give him a solid majority in the US Senate and House so that we can then have lower unemployment, lower taxes on the middle class and fair taxes on the uberwealthy, fewer foreign wars, a balanced budget, more freedom once we do away with Bush's DHS, warrantless wiretaps, FISA Court and spying on American citizens, smaller government and PLENTY of improvement on the horizon, all of which have been blocked by a do-nothing RepubliKKKan-controlled House to the detriment of the American people because their stated agendy was to make sure Obama was a one-term President.
The only way to describe the Romney Presidency is "NONE AND DONE!"
I want the next four years to be like the Bush years ended where we had a president who frequently couldn't compose proper English sentences, a half million people losing jobs each month, two wars including an optional $1,000,000,000,000 war started for false reasons, a plummeting stock market, and a president who didn't care about the person who caused 9/11.
Keep voting those teabaggers in, and that's exactly what we'll get.
Some people just don't comprehend sarcasm. OK. This stagnant economy is Obama's failure. You lemmings who want America to fail keep voting for a proven failure. Me, like most sane Americans are going to give a proven success like Romney a chance..
Mitt was born rich. How exactly is he a proven success?
I have always been a Clint Eastwood fan and I felt bad for him as his showing during the Republican convention was simply that of a man, past his prime, who appeared to be in the early stanges of dimentia. How could those running the convention let this happen and put this good man on national stage and let him embarass himself to the point that he is now the butt of many jokes? I believe Mitt Romney to be a good man and my bet is he had no idea that Eastwood would behave in such a way but the Romney staff showed clearly their lack of good judgement.
want to see clint-coming to see you but if ever....silence is golden.
will you shut up–thank you
Mr. Eastwood, let me tell you something. Your money, name, fame, status, everything is not made independently by you alone. They are because of the system and without the system you are no body. Therefore, you cannot make all the money and fame etc. on the back of the system and then tell the system to leave you alone and become a libertarian. That comes from utter ignorance. That said, I find you a very talented director.
Tell me please what "system" do you claim Eastwood piggy backed? Do you mean that the "system" gave him the his skill and artistic abilities? Do you mean that federal, state, and local government red tape, taxes and nonsense facilitated his rise?
He's obviously referring to the RAG – Republican Actor's Guild.
Clint, it will be on your tombstone that you helped romney lose the election. Even republicans found your acting a fool chair act tired. Maybe its time to hit the rocking chair, look for the mailman and watch CNN.
take your back meds that day and shut up.
take you back meds that day and shut up.
Come and join the Libertarian Party, everyone. The water is fine. Ron Paul is not crazy as both the Republicans and Democrats would have you believe. I believe there is a huge population that are more in line with Libertarian than with the 2 major parties combined. But because of our 2 party monopoly, people are forced to choose between the 2 evils. I think if people really vote their conscience, most will go Libertarian. Take this short quiz to find out what your political inclination is. You just might be a Libertarian. http://www.theadvocates.org/quiz
The only side I will get on is to say people like Clint Eastwood initially gets their sales and most of their money from the people he makes comments about but still ask to come pay outrageous prices for the movies he star in and direct. The empty chair concept sent a strong message. He's not confused. He knew actually what he was doing. He's promoting his new movie that will probably have empty chairs.
Is it true that the Libertarian Party headquarters is in a sanitarium? That would make sense since so many of its ideas are straight out of la la land. Doing away with the Department of Education? Doing away with the EPA? Doing away with the Department of Defense? Are Libertarians really THAT out of touch with reality?
I don't like the two party system either, but I am surely not going to select the Libertarian Party as a viable alternative. That would just give us a President like Ron Paul, or worst still like Rand Paul.
Man I wish it was possible to be intelligent and still respect Clint Eastwood at the same time. Personally, I didn't particularly care about his speech one way or the other. I thought it was senile and heavily slanted, but not deeply offensive. However, this back-tracking on his political views the week before his new film comes out his sickening. If you are a Libertarian why are you speaking at the GOP convention? If you feel both parties are equally irresponsible, why did you heavily bash one and fully endorse the other. For a man who built a reputation of being unafraid to speak his mind he sure has proven himself to be a truly convictionless coward in his twilight years. So sad. Mark my words, he will have words of praise for Obama following his reelection this fall.
" truly convictionless coward in his twilight years". Nice, very nice. You're a real class act and brilliant debater.
I agree with your assessment of Eastwood becoming "a truly convictionless coward in his twilight years." He either learned his doublespeak from Mitt, or else he taught Mitt how to do it.
I say the exact same thing about Ron Paul. If he truly does believe in his claimed Libertarian mantra, then why is he still a RepubliKKKan? People in the GOP know that their supporters are dumb enough to fall for the pretense of being something other a radical RepubliKKKan whenever it serves their purpose. Clint is trying to buy back his stupid statements so that he does not lose sales at the box office. TOO LATE! The cat is already out of the bag, not that Clint cares – he already has all the money he will ever need.
I have been a huge Eastwood fan until this GOP Convention, but that is now past history, and he will make no more money off me.
Mark, if you feel my debate skills are lacking why don't you respond with something other than dull sarcasm? Clint Eastwood did, in fact, show himself to be lacking the courage of his convictions by completely and blatantly back-tracking on his RNC comments just days before his new film hits theaters. Debate that, genius.
Just because you don't like the sound of it doesn't make it false. You can debate me and lose, or you can rethink your ignorant perspectives and win. Your call, assuming you are capable of free thought of course.
I think, I was about to yarrr, and then across the pond a turtle? Polar bears! And like I said, er, duh, and you better not tell me again if I was to dance with Sarah poodle powder pop, a big gun by cracky, and cheese. Millennium hand, and shrimp.
Heh heh heh... Thanks for the Terry Pratchett... Ah, I needed that.
I suspect there will be many more empty seats at the Hogs Breath for Clint to talk to, from now on.
You people take things too personally. I believe that BHO would be a great dinner guest, a wonderful companion at a ball game and a pretty satirical conversationalist. I TOTALLY disagree with 75% of his Party's positions, but I don't spew vitriol such as most Liberals do when attacking Republicans. I would also really enjoy having a few beers with Mr. Eastwood at the Hogs Breath. I believe 99% of Americans would agree with me.... Present company excluded.
He has not owned Hog's Breath Inn (or any part of it) for years.
As a (Conservative/Libertarian voting) Democrat, I still find that Clint Eastwood did a great one-man-show with no prompter, no paper and only a chair, proving he is and still remains a great actor (and a good story teller/director in the last movies). This exercise is much harder than it looks, even with that type of crowd that would have cheered at everything (especially after the other speakers).
He paused a bit too much, slowing the pace of the show to a crawl, several times. And even if I do not agree with the message, his act was the highlight of the Republican Convention (and that is a sad statement for what has become the Republican Party).
I now feel better that he defines himself as a Libertarian (which is more in synch with his movies), bashing money in politics, cause of the bipolar disorder slowly destroying America.
"As a (Conservative/Libertarian voting) Democrat, I still find that Clint Eastwood did a great one-man-show with no prompter, no paper and only a chair, proving he is and still remains a great actor" Really? Is that what it takes to believe it was successful? As a less-biased observer, I agree with the entire world that he made a fool of himself and upstaged Romney's babbling speech. Nice of him to beat Mitt up like that.
the ceo of one of the most famous firms in the world didn't have college education and made 4 billion a quarter for
18 years- so stfu....
GIVE THE OLD FOOL A BREAK!
The "Old Fool" was simply articulating what most of us feel. We don't want to put our feelings into words for fear of being labeled Racist by the likes of the uninformed such as David R. Scott
Oh, I forgot. If we don't care for Mr. Obama's policies, we're also LYING BIGOTS, Yeah, right...
The limp-wristed crowd can bash Clint all they want.....notice we don't ever hear ofailure voters get this excited about the economy or wars of terror orforeign policy all the things ofailure has failed at.
Are you serious? Of course not! What you stated is preposterous to the Nth degree. Most of us "ofailure" voters opposed starting two Middle East wars based upon false and manufactured evidence before W and the RepubliKKKan Party started singing patriotic songs and demanding that we go kill ragheads, and we still oppose those senseless wars that bankrupted our country. I guess you forgot who got us into this mudhole. It was W!
THIS MAN IS A LYING BIGOT... JUST LIKE ROMNEY....I DO NOT TRUST CLINT ANYMORE...NOR WILL I EVER GO SEE ONE OF HIS MOVIES.... CLINT IS A RACIST AND LYING BIGOT...CLINT IS THE GREEDY, LYING ONE PERCENT.... SCREW YOU CLINT.
YOU ARE UNFORGIVEN!
screw you your a blind idiot
That's so funny, LOL, Clint a racist! He said nothing of race. What are you a lazy black or mexican sitting at home on benefits so you feel he's attacking you?
He's not a racist, but you are.
Me thinks thou doth protest to much.....
David: Does your mommy know you are playing on the computer? You really shouldn't do that without adult supervision.
Did you realize your caps lock is stuck? It makes you look foolish.
Clint Eastwood: High School Graduate
Clint Eastwood: No experience working without a script..
Clint Eastwood: Half-baked thoughts, and a half-assed performance.
Clint Eastwood: Four years from now, he'll speak to Republicans wearing a drool-cup.
He was spot on!
Vote Obama for free food, cell phones money- what he is doing to this country is disgusting.
yes Romney in 21012 sounds about right, 19000 more years to go. Facts or reality what are those?
soulcatcher???? how gay
Clint is emblematic of yesterday's America, white christian capitalist. He sees too late the power slipping. Obama is tomorrow's America, multiethnic secular socialists. Democracy is a numbers game, one man one vote. You outvoted, Clint!
Scary part of the the whole thing is that Clint REALLY thought Obama was sitting there,...CLint you old goat you!
ROTFLMAO! You are probably correct.
Beyonce to friends: Come to my husbands bar the 40/40 club and pay 40k per plate to have dinner with my main Man Mr. Obama, and afterwards if you like you can pay another $12,500 to have a photo with Mr. Obama.
Don't worry friends only us 1% can attend, so no one will be there to interrupt our night.
jesse... big teabagger rally tonight at the Walmart. Free autographed copies of Sarah Palin's crosshairs poster for the first 25 baggers. You going ?
At this rate Obama will have enough money to compete with the Pope.
LOL right on!
I love Clint and understood what he spoke about at the convention. I don't believe he hurt the campaign; such drama queens with the comments; men included. Get over yourself, divas.
I'm a middle of the road person; where are the rest of my peeps?? If I decide to vote Republican, it doesn't make me a taliban member, an anti-abortionist, a born again nutcase, or an anti-gay person. Stereotypes. It means I voted for the other guy the last time around and I think he sucks.
Americans are too rigid now; such extremes.
You are a piece of blank paper blowing in the wind. You have no ideology or value system. You are obviously thinking only of yourself if you would throw gay Americans under the bus and vote for Romney.
Get real, Cindy, how is voting for Romney throwing gays under the bus?
I'm constantly surprised at the ignorance regarding the Republican party and gay Americans. Perhaps you are too young to know the horrible history of Republicans and the generational fight against gay rights. Let me just add one horrible tidbit because of time and space. Only two Republican Senators (female), voted with the majority Democrats to end Don't Ask, Don't Tell. Republicans have never seen the human worth of gay Americans and have done everything in their power to make certain that any advances that they make are piecemeal and done without their assistance.
" If I decide to vote Republican, it doesn't make me a taliban member, an anti-abortionist, a born again nutcase, or an anti-gay person." Sorry, it does. And when you eat at Chick-Fil-A, you are in effect hiring someone to beat up gay people. Welcome to the wide world of being a grownup, where nothing is like your mom said it would be. Actions have consequences, grasshopper, and your vote empowers some nasty people.
It may not mean you are a taliban nut-case, but it does mean that you are willing to put taliban nutcases in power. If you don't subscribe to their ideology think that's actually worse. They have been trying to legislate their religious beliefs for over 30 years and have had effective control of the Republican party for almost 20.
His biggest problem, of course, is that The Empty Chair always stands for the man who has been silenced. The man who is imprisoned, murdered, silenced by his opposition, which is exactly where the GOP stands on Obama. They prefer to debate an imaginary Obama who can't talk back, and Mitt is going to humiliate himself in the debates unless he can grasp reality.
So I hear Jay Z and Beyonce are throwing a plate dinner for Obama, but looks like only the 1% can attend, since plates are $40,000 dollars per person.
Wonder if there will be any secret recording of Jay Z and the Big Obama smoking cigars and talking about how they are Big pimping Americans into the stone age?
Funny how liberals notice all the wrongs with others but they never look in the mirror at their on hypocrisy.
Exactly, Jesse. You hit the nail on the head, but the libs will never admit that...
It takes a lot of money to run for the presidency. What is your point?
"Wonder if there will be any secret recording of Jay Z and the Big Obama smoking cigars and talking about how they are Big pimping Americans into the stone age?" No, not likely. What a weird fantasy that is. They'd just join the GOP and say it openly if they felt that way. You sure seem threatened by the notion that black folks can hold a fundraiser and collect more money than you will ever see. Now, go outside and mow the lawn.
It's a fundraiser. How else do you expect them to raise funds with it? Think before you open your mouth.
His little skit was tolerable except when he started putting words in the invisible President's mouth like go f_ _ k yourself. That part became very uncomfortable and painful to watch. His delivery was a big, long stutter.
@Chuck- even better when he gave him credit for the war in Afghanistan.
Then why didn't you state your position outright instead of the theatrics?
You supported drunken sailor #2, so that doesn't make sense, Harry.
My sentiments exactly. If you are independent, then why show up at the Republican National Convention and mock the president? Obviously you prefer one big spender over the next.
One of my all time favorite actors. But he made a complete as s of himself with that stupid empty chair routine.
I liked the Outlaw Jose Wales clip where he spits a big chaw of tabacco on the snake oil salesman's jacket and inquires, "Does it clean stains?" He should've done that to Smellin Degenerate.
As drunk as Eastwood was, I'm surprised he didn't spit up all over the 'empty chair'.
Wow ... who hates our military and 50% of Americans worse: Flip the Twit or Clint 'Charleton Hestons Ghost' Eastwood?
I never thought I'd see a day where the candidate from a party actually states "I hate half of Americans". Sounds kinda Nazi-like I'd say.