September 13th, 2012
07:00 PM ET
James Cameron: Rose, Jack couldn't both fit on the raft
Fifteen years later and “Titanic” fans are still angry with Rose for hogging that raft, thus allowing Jack to succumb to hypothermia.
Even the new NBC sitcom “Guy With Kids” pokes fun at the iconic scene. As one character and his wife unenthusiastically prepare for a “Titanic”-themed fundraiser, he asks, “And what happens at the end of the night? You hog a piece of driftwood that could easily accommodate the both of us?”
But “Titanic” writer/producer/director James Cameron wants to set the record straight:
Cameron also said that Discovery Channel's “Mythbusters” is planning to tackle the conundrum, and he’s going to help them do it. (Of course, the folks over a Reddit have already published a pretty in-depth equation, which found that the “force of buoyancy is less than force of gravity. The two will sink.”)
Next up for Cameron is the sequel and threequel to “Avatar,” which he said he’ll work on simultaneously. Check out the full interview below:
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I think the real story can be told now.
Jack did not die that night.
As he gazed into Rose's panicked eyes in those last moments, she on the raft and he in the water, a thought struck him: this chick is going to get pretty hefty in a few years.
We saw him sink into the frigid, inky depths. We did not see, moments later, a straw from the ship's dining room, moving upright through the water, seemingly of its own accord, in the direction of the slender woman in the nearby lifeboat.
FACT: JAMES CAMERON THIS IS THE ISSUE...WHEN YOU TOOK A SHIP AND MADE HISTORY
AND WENT TO THE BOTTOM OF THE DEEPEST OCEAN IN THE WORLD AND CAME UP
ALIVE, ALL WERE SO HAPPY....SO TODAY PEOPLE WANT LOVE TO SURVIVE.
JAMES CAMERON IS THE REAL DEAL...HE DID WHAT MEN DARE TO DO!
I dare you to turn off your caps lock.
Cameron is a tool.
Thanks for your input!
If you have ever heard James Cameron speak, here is a guy that thinks he knows it all.
Good grief. It's just a movie. Chill.
i'm sorry, i missed the reason why we are still talking about this ... anybody? it was a freaking movie. and ... wasn't it out, like a dozen or more years ago? to quote william shatner: you people need to get a life.
its a movie..its not real...i want the blocs off and triology ended on this computer...do you understand me?
i want the blocks off the computers...do you understand me?
this is a movie and jack and rose have been dead for years ...i want you to take care of this in a
professional manner...do you understand what i am saying to you
i want this take care of do you understand me...
OMG. Jack dies at the end? THANKS FOR THE SPOILER, JERK!
not I. i want this rectified...do you understand me? there is a trio here going on for a very long time...i want the blocks off do you understand that?
get the blocks off...do you understand me...
Jack would have sank both of them, Superman can outrace the Flash, and God is outside of time.
there was actually talk of why both of them couldnt get on the raft? How can you make a Tacky-wood movie without someone suffering?
do you understand what i am saying to you?
do you understand that...you are not standing straight–let me help you...are you a woman?
You're an idiot. Do you understand that?
to hackers and hacking phones...do you understand that...
rose is not hobbling...she doesn't exist ...its a movie do you understand that. if rose was going to get together with someone cnn would never know about it...do you understand that.
do you understand that?.....there is no triology and i want this cleaned up...do you understand what i am saying you.
rose is not hear do you understand that..this was only a film
you are not permitted to do this...do you understand..your a movie..your nothing in terms of blogging do you understand that. triolgy is not happening anymore do you understand that...when i fool around why would i tell cnn about it..
i want this fixed or your superiors will contacted...do you understand what i am saying to you.
I hated Rose! First, Jack had to save her sorry rich pudgy ass from jumping off of the ship. Then the pathetic raft scene..." I WILL go on, Jack" Glad she decided like a day after her suicide attempt that she damn well did want to live afterall. Then, fast forward to her old age. After riding horses and roller coasters the rest of her life, she hobbles as an old lady and throws the buzzilion dollar diamond off of the ship so NO ONE could benefit in any way from her life of self survival.
i liked her nude scene,aside from that she is forgettable.
Cameron is planning two more in the Avatar series? I think it's time for an intervention.
It's a movie, people.
kate is so hot and on fire now more then ever.
If Rose had stayed on the lifeboat earlier, Jack could have used the floating debris.
She killed him. Sure as cutting his throat, she killed him.
Yes! I always thought this and all my friends thought I was crazy. I found her stupid but my friends thought it was "so romantic". Ugh.
if i had gotton on it i will have held everything right in position even with the frigid air.
How could anyone not know that? If you're such a big fan of the movie, you watch Jack try to get on it and it not being able to hold him...
heated waters are much more comfortable
on the phone right now.
frigid ... that was the problem-
Jack had super powers and could have made the raft buoyant. After all, he enough super powers to survive for a lengthy time in the frigid waters of the North Atlantic.
didn't think the ocean was that frigid at the time. maybe your right.
Yea, its icewater.
maybe at the time of filming–yes.
more like "body" pigs.
I can't hardly believe with all the problems we have in this country/world people are going off on the ending of a movie! Are Americans really that dumbed down??? I'll bet 97% of those idiots are fans of American Idiot, Dancing with the stars, Totts & terrias, Dance moms, the Bachelorette & all the other trash TV! You are such busy body pigs!
You'd be right if I could take your statement seriously but your spelling and grammar errors make it difficult.
Anyone that blames an entire country of people based on what a few idiots do, say or think, is a moron themselves.
You might be more credible if you could spell and if you hadn't taken the time to comment on this article.
I find it disturbing that you can rattle off the names of all those shows. I'm still trying to figure out what a Snooki is.
cameron needs a real serious kidnapping by another force...
love is wanting that person near you, making each other feel special, acting like you and he are the only 2 on the planet, man saying to the woman ... i'm so happy and proud of you as my girlfriend..fantasy? too bad ...thats the way
i run the ship.
its about the man and me and always checking in to make sure we're alright. able to leep tall buildings in a single bound is not love.
i saw both planes smash into the world trade center....so don't lecture me about 9/11 ....k?
No you didn't.
Okay..I admit. I cried watching this scene. Sure it's only a movie. It's all visual effects and great acting, however when one sacrifices his life for another....thats the greatest love. Think about the boyfriends/husbands in the Aurora CO shootings. They instantly covered thier loved ones to protects them for the bullets.
Think about the heros on Flight 93 on 9/11. They heard about the other planes hitting the World Trade Centers and took action, knowing if they didn't more on the ground could die.. Sure its a movie, but in real life people sacrifice thier lives every day for others...it's the ultimate show of love.
The only heroes on 9/11 re: Flight 93 were the Ohio Air National Guard who shot down that United Flight!
@Gerry - Denny's just called, you left your TinFoil Hat behind....
studying for an exam.... see you in the week -
As for Avatar, I think it was the most over-rated movie in the last 10 year. Terrible plot, nothing original (other than the special effects), and a depressing and unlikely look at future space exploration. Please save us the disappointment of watching any more of that franchise.
Not to mention, we have the military technology here in the early 21st century to have eliminated the Navi, either completely or just as a threat to the mining operation, and we wouldn't have lost a single human life doing it. If we can take out Al Qaeda with drones now, how hard would it have been to do it when we have the remote piloting technology to pilot a biological organism (the avatars themselves)?
James Cameron has something against the military – look at any movie he's made that involves soldiers. Even the mercs in avatar were supposed to be ex-military. Not once does the military perform at even the level of basic competence, they're held up as either the comic relief or the people that the civilian superhero of the story (Ripley, you're cool and all, but really?) has to bail out.
Frankly, I wouldn't mind seeing Cameron get kidnapped and have to be rescued by the SEALS or Rangers, just to give him a little perspective. That's assuming they would actually be willing to go get him, though. 😉
Jack had to die so Rose could grow and ultimately fulfill her dreams of being a lesbian aviator and such...
can't wait to share "thoughts" again.
Just curious...Has Mr. Cameron stayed faithful to the most current wife or did he find another young starlet to "endulge" with?
Who cares? Is it relevant for this article?
Yeah, I want a more far-ranging interview with James Cameron. Does he think the Tigers will catch the ChiSox in the A.L. Central? Does he agree with me that NBC committed a travesty by cutting The Who's performance at the Olympics to compel us to watch the hideous "Animal Practice"? Does he think this outfit makes IaMomOF5's question look big?
i love decaprio...he's so hot ....
fits real..just 1 wave not 2 or 3 waves around.
everybody says the movie is a fit but yaaa know...lol
The 3D blu ray is amazing
I haven't seen it yet thanks for the spoiler warning you ruined it for me
With every ejaculation about 22.000.000 little swimmers try to make it to the finish line. most if not all die. Every now and then one makes it and thats the way we are, we will die to let her live the way she wants, spend our lived in boring jobs so she can live. Remember you are special, you out swam 22,000,000 to get here. Live your life well so you can die well.
Considering that it's been proven they both could fit on there, I'd love to see his evidence to the contrary.
So you don't actually read the article before you post, huh?
people cry in movies that are still not real....i cried for rocky balboa ... he aint real. i cried for dorothy because i thought the witch was going to kill her...that ain't real either....
if you need help call someone.
This movie made me cry for a guy I have never cried but in this movie
Jack and Rose both survive.
Rose finds out she is preggers and sue's Jack for all he is worth.
Since Jack is dirt poor, Rose runs back to Cal
and convinces Cal that its his baby.
Rose pops out a kid that looks just like Jack, and Cal shoots Rose.
its only motion picture and none of it is real.
In real life things would go pretty much the same. Men have died for their loved ones since the beginning of time. Every soldier who goes to war does the same thing. Fighting for their loved ones and their way of life.
great poem "PAUL" baaahwwwahhha
a movie. your cnn power trips are a bore–we are working–
"I'll never let go Jack, I'll never let go..." At least not until some warm dude with a lifeboat and a lantern come by. Then it's Sinksville for Jacksicle.
"So what's the glory in living
Doesn't anybody ever stay together anymore
And if love never lasts forever
Tell me what's forever For"
Chew on that, young/old Rose
great movie between the 2 of them and i may watch it again
It was in the script that the raft would only keep one of them afloat, because IT'S A MOVIE!!
Damn that scripting, damn it! 😉
NO SPOLER WARNING?!!!?!?
Thanks a lot CNN!
wow really. spoiled a movie from 15 years ago. Im sorry the whole world is not bending backwards to your every nuance. It must be really hard for you since people go about their lives without any regard to what you think. F OFF.
Well I thought you were funny...
Princess, get yourself a sense of humor.
Spoiler Alert: The boat sinks!
That's like complainimg because an articlle says Jesus dies in a movie about his life.
kate always accepted direction from leo for a quiet sweet performance between the 2.
My wife worked at Blockbuster Video (remember them?) when the movie first came out on VHS (Wow, am I dating myself, or what?). One of her customer's reactions to the hype over the movie was priceless. It was "The ship sank. Get over it!". Still remember that everytime someone mentions the movie.
One dislikes bursting your bubble, but that's not original. It was a t-shirt and a bumper sticker. Your lady wife's customer doubtless saw one of the other and repeated it for her amusement.
6 minutes of my life I can't get back after reading this article & comments. 3 hours of my life I can't get back after watching this movie. Its fiction!!!!!!! It's fake!!!! it's a movie!!!! People news flash That guy is Leonardo Dicaprio, He actually lived. Crap theres another 1 minute lost.
Its a frickin' MOVIE. Get over it!
Cameron had the power of choice.
I don't buy Cameron's bouyancy argument. Anyone who knows anything about marine activities knows that if Jack had simply gone around to the other side of the "raft" and climbed up that way, counterbalancing the weight, they both could have been on it. It started to flip because he was trying to climb on from the same side, throwing all the weight on one end.
Yes, I totally agree with K1PTOO.
It's not the "tipping" that is critical. It's the SINKING once both of them are on it. Regardless of how he gets on, it will not support both of them. A floating object can only support so much weight.
They didn't have to know this. And they thought the lifeboats will come and pick them up any minute, so they didn't want to risk sinking the raft.
K1PTOO – you sound like the sort of fanboy that earnestly debates the merits of Jedi lightsaber styles...
You can try that at your dish washer.
Get a piece of wood. Place it. Then place a screw on it. It will float. Place the 2 screw.... it will start to sink but not go under.
Place the 3... and the 3 will sink.
Cameron is one who knows even more than "anything" about marine activities. The scene as depicted in the movie looks entirely convincing, and always looked that way. By the way, people having false understanding of buoyancy drown every year because of that.
"Anyone who knows anything about marine activities" Wow. Like... wow. I mean... wow. I'm pretty sure you meant to replace "marine activities" with "physics", but you were too busy being an idiot, so it's ok.
It was a movie and the actual event happened 100 years ago. Long past floating around for anyone.
Amen K1PTOO, I thought the same thing in 1997 seeing it for the first time. After all the characters went through on the ship & they couldn't figure out how to both get on!! A stupid move Cameron on your masterpiece.
Yes, because marines constantly float in the ocean on flotsom from 100 year old ships.
with both indian tribes non approval this will even be a more explosive movie.
Best and wonderful story of all time. The death of jack is not a good idea. Here in South-South Nigeria guys are still hunting for this great movie
Well DUH!!!! Geez, 15 years and these idiots couldn't figure it out. I was 10 when I watched this movie and I even knew that...
your a silly man
i don't need coffee...there is another meal i am looking for.
This is just an ad to boost sales of the Blue-Ray DVD. No one gives a hoot whether or not they both could have fit on the wood or not. If this really happened, I am sure there was plenty of things floating in the water that Jack could have got on to get out of the water. He could have then paddled it over to where Rose was and be rescued along with her. But IT"S ONLY A MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I soooooo can't wait for "Battle Angel Alita"!!!!!!!
James Cameron has plenty of catching-up to do if he wants to attack capitalism as often as Michael Moore has done it.
I pawned the heart of the ocean diamond. I didn't really throw it off the ship. I've been eating well ever since.
Whoever the nutbag is spamming this board with random stuff you aren't funny and you are trying way too hard.
Kate Winslet isn't Rose. Rose was an old hah that was so fat she let her boyfriend drown. Kate Winslet is the hottie in the Mummy movies. I liked those Mummy movies. Action packed and realistic.
Rachel Weisz starred in The Mummy, not Kate Winslet.
I really think it would have been cool if some of the life boats had had flame throwers mounted on them so they could have shot fire at Rose in her little raft. That would have jazzed it up a little bit.
What would be even better would be to have several storm troopers in place of the flamethrowers.
And this was BEFORE Leonardo DeFatrio got hefty.
It's just a movie idiots!
I liked rose breasts
Just wait until Cameron has to explain that jack and rose werent actually real.
Wait what?! YOU TAKE THAT BACK!
Any idiot can watch the movie and realize that if they both got on, it would sink or flip. How could anyone be upset with Rose for "hogging" it? That's just stupid.
because Rose was a giant elephant.
dont pay attention to these people..more then 1/2 are the same.
Thank you, DIVERDL. Never mind the raft scene, as soon as they started diving for the key, this thing was in fantasyland. They would have been long dead.
The one moment that gave me a shiver was the shot that shows the ship from a distance, and the lights flicker and go out. I hadn't thought of how much of this must have unfollded in pitch darkness.
Good Lord. 15 years later and Cameron STILL has to explain this? I saw the movie ONCE and it was quite clear to me when Jack attempted to get on the raft too that it would not hold both of them. I'm not even the smartest person in the world and could figure this out. Hahaha!
it was a stupid movie anyway effects were great but a stupid storyline 4 sure
I completely agree. Somehow we take a tragedy and turn it into a love story. Pure bs.
Same problem on the 23 side...thats what makes it exciting.
Who cares about the raft? I want to know why she throws a Million dollar diamond into the ocean? what did it accomplish? bet her grand-daughter would have liked to have it for kids college? retirement? that ticks me off still!
She was throwing away the last material possession tying her to the past with a resolve to start anew gaining spiritual goods, not material ones. It is made quite clear at the end where they show all the pictures displayed of her in America "living life".....learning to ride horses, flying a plane...etc..............
But, Valerie, I thought she died at the end? So that ticked me off too. I agree, why waste it. Hell, she could have given it to charity at least: umm..Jack was poor, he opened her eyes to fact that poor people where 'worthy' so why not give money to some poor sap who lost their family on ship: there were tons of other people there on the 'steerage' deck when rescued! It ticked me off too. The first time I watched the movie I assumed she was going to have given it to that lady who had been yelling about they can't all be dead on the steerage deck. Funny how one scene can ruin a whole movie and that scene did for me.
Seriously JL, it's just a movie.........who really cares?
Rose had to have held onto the diamond for years because if she had turned it in, Calvin and her mother would have known she was alive. But at the end of her life, I agree, it bothered me too that she just pitched it into the ocean, probably with the intention of it getting lost in the wreckage of the ship below. I didn't see the point. What would have been the harm for her granddaughter to have sold the thing? The insurance company that paid the Hockleys for its loss would have gotten a chunk of its value but there would've been plenty left over for Rose's family to enjoy. And the diamond would've done some good after all.
Throwing the diamond into the ocean is what made the movie great. It provided a closure to the character, and thus to the audience that related to Rose's life story. It made life look bigger than death.
With the temp of the water he wouldn't even be able to talk. He'd be dead in mins. That cold of water would send alot of people into cardiac arrest as soon as they hit it.
jumpy bloggers today huh?
best part was the four musicians doing the sad song
There's bodies all around wearing life jackets...there's wood floating all around from broken furniture. I wonder if I could make this raft float better somehow? Nah. I'll just die. At least that will make a good ending for the movie.
...don't think too much about movies, because...they're movies.
Rose should have given him some wood, after all he did the same in the car scene on the ship.
This is an iconic scene? I thought you were talking about a scene from "White Heat" or "North by Northwest".
What, is there a limit to how many iconic scenes can exist in the universe at any given time? All the iconic scenes got used up, so any movie made after 1960 is out of luck? Way to be a movie snob...
Outrider Ratrider had it right. Rose was a wh 0re.
Ha! I think everyone was like "move your ass over, Rose" after seeing that movie.
Winslet's delicious wagon butt just took up too much space. Dat azz.
Well, if she dieted before getting on that boat and making love like a teenager, this would not have happened.
if anything ever happened...it would have to be underground anyway...
hurt your bear–
love that show....
i will remind you every waking minute of that horrid day..sure...but i don't have the guts to hurt you.
dont take a pooooo in your pants
It Is A P Hocking Movie.
They make a special powder for that part of sheets, you should get some or borrow some of mine, I have lots of extras!
babe see you very early tomorrow
Can we please get over it? The film had it's run....MOVE ON!
almost all of the above r so funny! thank u!
is right here..
and nobody cares "chad"
Pathetic little person who hides behind their keyboard. Join the rest of your clan, clammering for attention.
Fat Warren Buffet wants to cull the herd.
Midgets should not be exploited by Hollywood.
I miss dwarf tossing.
Sad that people are starving all around the world and here people are debating whether or not two fictional characters could survive on a raft. Stupidity at it's highest!!!
Why are you reading this article, when you should be out feeding the homeless in your community!
Ahem – you obviouly read the article numnut – so you care about it! Hahahahaha!
We need more people to starve. The world is overpopulated.
Jack and Rose are not real ?
You just ruined my life.
Shut up and get me a samwitch.
Hollywood is an Abortion that we should not tolerate.
Yeah, well, paisan, we tolerate you, and you would seem to be a partial-birth abortion.
Why cannot Elliot Spitzer be our president.
dont be a boring wet noodle.
Most of their weight was their wet clothing.
If they both stripped naked, the raft would have been able to float with both of them.
This passes for news? The article is more like extra publicity for the movie as yet another DVD was released this week.
And the only thing haters accomplish by clicking on the article and posting on it is to increase the number of people who read it. This makes it look even more popular to CNN, so they will run more of them in the future.
Haters have no one to blame but themselves for the continuation of stories like this, because all their clicks and negative comments just increase the popularity. You are causing the very problem you claim to want to end.
Raft buoyancy aside... if Rose had stayed on the damned lifeboat, then Jack could have used the raft... Rose killed Jack.
EXACTLY! she should have trusted his resourcefulness and believed he'd find a way to survive. 🙂
Rose was the most self obsessed person ever! Did you see the dozens of framed photographs she took with her wherver she went? Only one person in them.....
its like its talking to a real person...
its like it lives through blogging.
somebody makes these blogs into a reality
this is just blogging and meaningless...your take it way to personal.
James cameron is lucky there werr a lot of 14 year old girls with an allowance in this country. This movie was for them and no one else. It sucked then, it sucks now...why am I wasting my time talking about it, matter of fact, why did I waste my time reading about ut? I'm out.
Your inference being that, at the time, you were a 14 year old girl with an alowance?
the best part is after the movie..when you hit the sheets
the best part is the very after the movie..when you hit the sheets...
Was Jack the guy that got chopped with the ship propeller? That was awesome. Only good part of the whole movie.
The best part of that long boring movie was when it said the end.
They're remaking it with an all-colored cast like Steel Magnolias.
Don't forget about the upcoming, all-minority trilogy, 'Black to the Future'!
Really? A remake? Well, that sends shudders down my spine. Isn't one film version of 'Steel Magnolias' more than enough to inflict on an already troubled world?
not sure if she was that heavy-i got 265 for sure
That Rose was a big giant hippopotamous. It is a wonder the raft didn't sink with just her in it. She musta weighed 450 or 500 pounds.
Stand next to Kate Winslet. I guarantee you are bigger than she is. That must make you 600 pounds then.
Naw, that was kathy Bates.
very sad. saw it once and was not able to ever see it again.
better ending would have been for Jaws to come out of the water and swallow Rose.
A really great story.
A wondeful story about the creative side of Moss Barker,
I agree wthe story worked better with Jack ddying prior to ending.
Reblogged this on MYth's REALity.
Think the story worked better with Jack dying the ending with both of them getting away would have been tacky