December 12th, 2011
01:07 PM ET
Lowe's faces outcry after pulling 'All-American Muslim' adsRetailer Lowe's is facing backlash from players in politics and entertainment after deciding to pull its advertisements from TLC's "All-American Muslim." The Learning Channel's series follows five Muslim families living in Dearborn, Michigan, and Lowe's told CNN over the weekend that it has received "a significant amount of communication from every perspective possible" regarding the show. "Individuals and groups have strong political and social views on this topic, and this program became a lightning rod for many of those views. As a result we did pull our advertising on this program. We believe it best to defer to communities, individuals and groups to discuss and consider such issues of importance."
While the move has received support from the Florida Family Association, which believes the TLC series is "propaganda that riskily hides the Islamic agenda's clear and present danger to American liberties and traditional values," others have spoken out against it. There's a petition out to encourage advertisers to continue supporting the series, and California Sen. Ted Lieu has also expressed his disagreement with Lowe's decision. Lieu wrote a letter to Lowe's CEO calling the company's removal of ad spots from the program "bigoted, shameful and un-American," as well as "profoundly ignorant." "Lowe's religious discrimination is the equivalent of a company asserting that it is pulling advertising from the Christian Broadcast Network's '700 Club' because the program somehow 'riskily hides' the agenda of Christian radicalized groups such as Aryan Nation," Lieu asserts in the letter. "That assertion would, of course, be utter nonsense and religious bigotry." The senator also called for Lowe's to reinstate its advertising, along with an apology, or he'll encourage boycotts and "look into legislative remedies." Those outside of the political sphere are outraged as well, with industry titan Russell Simmons, who is also chairman of The Foundation for Ethnic Understanding, calling foul on Lowe's play. "This can't happen in America, [Lowe's] needs to fix this immediately...There are American principles at stake here," Simmons told Entertainment Weekly. "This country is built on religious freedom. This is the kind of hate that tears the country apart." "All-American Muslim" began last month on TLC, and airs at 10 p.m. on Sundays on the network.
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I'm finished with LOEW'S because of their cowardice, in caving to a tiny group of bigots. SHAME ON YOU! Indeed, as a private company, they can do what they please with their money. I can ALSO do what I wish with mine. As a result, I will NEVER shop at LOEW'S again. Either they're run by cowards or are bigots themselves. In either case, I'm boycotting! SHAME ON YOU!
If you want to boycott something just boycott this show. They're obviously trying to brain wash us into thinking muslims could be normal civilized people.
I think it's hilarious that so many folks here defend Lowe's actions on the basis of free speech when in reality Lowe's caved to pressure from people who were intolerant of free speech. Lowe's had already placed their ads with the show knowing full well what it was about!! This isn't free speech ... it's exactly the opposite.
Racist Organization
Lowe's has eventually revealed that it is a racist organization/company. It would be revealed anyway...sooner or later. As a result of this I vow not to purchase anything more at Lowe's. Any well thinking person would give it a second thought before shopping at Lowe's. Supporting any racist company is akin to supporting racism and racial discrimination. Is,'t that obvious anyway?
Why would anyone think they have the right to tell any business where they can and cannot advertise. Lowe's owes no one an apology. I applaud Lowe's for having the courage to pull their ads. Political correctness has gone way overboard in this country and I think the majority of Americans are over it.
Hooray for Russell Simmons! He's smart and accepting and and fair-minded.
Another reason for me to support Lowes and boycott MNN (Muslim News Network)........
Now if only someone would protect me from Christian propaganda...
Never mind...I can take it...I'd rather risk being preached to by a bunch of empty headed fools than risk losing free speech.
Lowe's and other corporate giants should have seen this coming and have learned a powerful lesson. Once you play the game, you are now bound by bigotry claims if you exit. This is why corporations–all of them–should quit trying to advance social agendas. Pepsi is renowned for it.
Lowes has a right to choose the programming it advertises on. With that said, Lowes chose a show to advertise on. They were fine up until they got calls/threats from people calling all Muslims terrorists and making the show out to something that its not.
Hate groups managed to bully Lowes and they caved. Lowes CHOSE to put their advertisements into this show because they new it was wholesome programming.
Just as All American Muslim has shown, these people are NOT terrorists. These are Americans with a different religion from others.
We'll let the Kardashians, Jersey Shore, Housewives of 'Whatever' go crazy on TV, but put a few Muslims on a TV show and everyone is pulling advertisements?
FOR SHAME LOWES!
Freedom of speech does not mean freedom from the consequences of said speech. Noone wants to take away Lowes free speech rights. We just want to hold Lowes accountable for that speech. This is so obvious a bigoted move that a blind man can see it. Take out the emotion and think rationally. Lowes advertises on the show "All American Muslim." (Free Speech) Lowes pulls advertising from same show because a Christian fundamentalist groups complains. (again free speech). Lowes even says so in its statement that the FFA was the driving force behind its decision. Lowes must now face the consequences of a group of people who see this free speech for what it is–bigoted!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-Ol-OTLl1s
THANK YOU LOWE'S.
I plan on doing as much shopping as possible at Lowe's. It is not about Islam, it is about the media’s ability to impose its will on society.
Rock on Lowe's!! You just earned my business!!
I'm more inclined to agree with Sindy. I honestly feel bad that Lowe's got caught up in such a mess. I stated earlier that Lowe's would have been better off sticking with their first decision, but it seems there is no easy way out for them either way. I'll continue to support Lowe's, knowing they had to make a decision that was best for them.
Lowes just didn't want put in the middle of a firestorm and unfortunately that it what happened. This has nothing to do with race, all the anti-everythingers started this BS.
I really don't think Lowes orginally sponsored this show to support Muslims or pulled its advertising because it does not support Muslims. Both decisions were based on trying to get additional business not to make a statement. It is a company not a political party or a foundation. However, it strikes me as odd that a company that originally supported a Muslim show is racist and that somehow makes other home improvement stores better. That comparison only works if both stores supported the show and only one folded. Now if another home improvement store decided to fill the advertising space you might have an argument.
I have shopped at Lowe's for over 30 years, but no more will I shop there. They have allowed a right-wing, fanatical Christan organazition to dictate how to run their businee. This country is in more danger from the agenda of these Christian fanatics than any Al-Qaeda or Taliban group. We are asked to show tolerance to these fanatical Christians and their agenda, yet they have no tolerance to anyone that does not agree with their agenda.
Good call Larry. Christians are more dangerous than Al-Qeada. Go away.
I'm very disappointed Lowe's allowed a conservative group to call the shots on advertising. I'll be taking all my business to Home Depot & encouraging my friends to do likewise.
But Home Depot supports the gays... Now where do I buy my wood?
I will continue to shop at Lowe. We've had it with people petty singling out of everything under the sun, this is still America. Freedom of expression. Also, Im not accepting that everyone fits into a nice little box just so we can feel better. The labeling has got to stop. There are good and bad in ALL people of ALL nations of ALL religions. Its simply not fair nor is it accurate.
There are so many ignorant people slamming Lowes who have no idea how business works. Businesses advertise on shows who's audience is the same as their target market. Through market research Lowes has decided that reaching this audience won't give them the bang for their buck as much as other shows. I guarantee you that if there was a show about satanic dog fighters, and the audience was primarily people who spend a lot on home improvement, Lowes would advertise on it. It has nothing to do with the content of the show; it's all about the demographics of the audience. Read a book on marketing then come back and comment.
Lowe’s is not a charity foundation but a corporation solely focused upon their profits and the intentions of their shareholders. Their choice to take their money out of this show may be seen at an angle as cowardly but truly it is for their best interest they made this decision. Although Lowe's decision to initially sponsor All-American Muslim may have not been made to discriminate or perpetuate conflict among Muslims and some Christians, in essence it is what has happened. When looking at numbers it is shown that the Muslim population who would be hurt by taking out the money is about 1 million less than the members of the Florida Family Association, the Christian group who made these claims. I do not blame Lowes but I believe they should have thought through the repercussions and aftermath of investing in a potentially controversial program like All-American Muslim. Instead I rest the blame upon the ignorant Florida Family Association who seem to me as a Christian group who targets Islam and Muslims all over the United States. This is not the first time the FFA has asked its members to boycott a certain company for helping an Islamic organization (Campbell’s was a victim to this bullying as well). Their claims that the show is unbalanced and only shows normal Muslims rather than portraying the evil Muslims with anti-USA agendas is flawed because not only are they stereotyping all Muslims to fit a terrorist mold but it shows they haven’t necessarily watched the show. It is true that Al Qaeda is a terrorist group who claims to terrorize for their religion, Islam, but it is important to understand that it isn’t the norm and most Muslims don’t even consider Al Qaeda’s motives as legitimate. The Muslim community has been hurt just as much and maybe even worse by 9/11 because not only did members of their community die in the towers but it sparked a wave of Islamophobia, hate crimes, and nationwide loathing upon them. This show, All-American Muslim, to me, is simply a reality show to illustrate to Americans the normalcy of Muslims and ease any Islamophobia that exists in our country. It is far less “trashy” then many popular shows of this time and shouldn’t be judged with a narrow mindset.
No to Lowe's, yes to mom and pop hardware stores and Home Depo....No to Bigot Lowe's
You are bashing on Sen. Ted Lieu for asking Lowe's to stop being a bigot. What about the so called christian group who pressured Lowe's and encouraged their followers to e-mail the sponsors to stop advertising? Did they not have the right to advertise to whatever show they wanted to? To the so called Florida Christian Family organization, stop spreading hate and instead of telling your followers to write letters to force companies from advertising. Ask them to pray, read the bible, help the less fortunate and leave the rest to GOD. People like you are un-Americans. True Americans have respect for all religions and believes. You call Muslims terrorist, read your comments, you are worse.They might have less than 1% of them as terrorist. I am afraid we have more Americans full of hate than anywhere else. Shame on you for being an-American. You make us look bad.
You all are a bunch of low life right wing republicans. You make Christians look bad. You are all bigots and you should be ashamed of yourselves. We have a bunch of KKK's on this site giving Americans a bad name. Lowes has the right to do whatever they want but to pull the plug based on so called christians who are bigots is uncalled for. Lowes is a large company who claim to be an equal oppurtunity company, appearently not. This makes Lowes un-American. Thank you Russell Simmons for speaking up. For you bigots out there, if anyone is spreading propaganda it is fox news and the so called christian organizations like this one. They are spreading hate around. Grow up people, act like adults and teach your children to be decent kids. Christianity teaches love so love not hate...
I suppose that Lowes has the right to put their ads wherever they want. At the same time they are showing the kind of bigotry the keeps dividing this country and I for one will never, ever spend another dollar at their stores. And I am a Catholic. I wonder if all the bigots writing here go to church on Sundays and really hear Jesus teachings.
As long as Muslims insist that Sharia Law should be American Law I will support Lowes and the 64 some other companies that CNN obviously avoided listing. Last time I checked American coporations had the right not to support violence or propaganda.
This is all very impressive stuff. Just one more reason why the United States aren't so united after all. And poor Lowe's, with every right to make a decision, like the Ford Focus that nearly completed a left turn in front of an oncoming semi, only to put the car in reverse after spotting a police car nearby. Sometimes the best way to avoid a mess is to never start one in the first place. I stand to be corrected, but it seems to me that Lowe's would have been better off sticking with their first decision to run their ads.
I don't really care for reality shows at all, but I must admit I am slightly biased and proud to be a Detroit native amidst many cultures. Has anyone noticed you don't hear about any Arab uprisings or terror threats in Detroit? No Arab American takeovers,,suicide bombers,,etc.? Could be because Arab Americans are no different than anyone else on the planet. For all I know,, maybe the program attempted to prove this. Otherwise if the show stinks,, change the channel. I'm sure there are other ways to discover that people are people. If there were just one race, one religion, would we still have war? How many more centuries will it take to figure this out?
Lowe's has every right to pull their ads. Likewise, I have the right to shop where I please. Today I returned all my Christmas gifts I bought from Lowe's over the past month. I choose not to shop there anymore.
Stop stereotyping people with labels for what they are not. Companies like Lowe's perpetuate this kind of thinking.
I am not going to dig on this show until I watch to even form an opinion. From the advertising of show, it appears trying to take a look into peoples lives who practice the "muslim" faith in America. Our country is based on the freedom of religion. I absolutely depise the people who took down the towers and killed hundreds of innocent lives. However, there are some people who were born in this country who have the muslim faith. From what I understand, it is not a violent religion. They are not out to get Americans. There is always be a group who will be out there to twist a religions views. Its really sad alot of people are so closed minded that we can not learn from others culture. Remember this...keep your friends close and your enemies closer. If you know more about what you think is enemy maybe you will have advantage.
good job lowes, and they are right to do so as they probably don't want to be seen as being sponsors of some strange show like that. i would do the same exact thing with my own business. these are topics that very many people have strong feelings about, so they are right to not run commercials in between these shows if they are unsure on the matter and just don't want to seem involved in the topic.
Lowe's has every right to do this. Yes Muslim tv is so full of propaganda. Ever since Obama got into office. We are losing so many rights.
How much tolerance is any religion other than Islam given in Saudi Arabia? None. No other religion is tolerated whatsoever. Islam is religious totalitarianism.
Moslems and Occupy Wall Streeters should boycott the U.S., leave the country, and occupy Tehran.
And while you're at it, please take Alec Baldwin with you when you leave.
Kudos to Lowe's. If Muslim Congressman Ellison promises never to go into a Lowe's, maybe Lowe's could open an office on Capitol Hill and keep that sharia representative out of DC.
It's time the civilized world realize that it is in a cultural and ideological war for survival. The cult of Islam and secular progressive Democrats are the enemies of mankind.
The hipocrit christian conservatives and their pyscho do goodders pave the way to thier own hell. Kill doctors to save fetuses, pray for wars, burn others religious books, preachers that rail against gays and they commit gay fornication, promise keeping lier politicians that cheat on their wives. You hate muslims, jews, blacks too name a few yet your very kids hate yoyr beliefs and mock your abstenance. Christians blasphers turn their giant churchs into amusment halls to try and lure young to their beliefs. You say the muslims are radical better not look in the mirror.
You keep waiting for the end timesand a rapture and you secretly covet your neighbors wife and hlis
Worldly goods. You pray for materialistic desires and your heart is full of hate. Take a look in the mirror rightecous hipocrits and know when your time comes there will be no light, no rapture, just darkness, silence, and being alone with all the guilt that was never forgiven. Go to lowes, hate muslims, speak in tongues do it now because when this life is over you'll be dead just like those you hate and in the same ground too. You just don't get it your the same as them but afraid to admit it.
we are mostly the same, but you can't put everyone here in the same basket too. difference is we don't let religion completely control our lives and turn us into religious and delusional wackos and therefore we enjoy much more freedom of expression and can welcome other religions, even such totalitarian as islam to pray to their god. we also don't need to kill in the name of any god or prophet such as Jesus or your own savior muhammad since we know that god is not weak that we should be killing people for him in his name.
Cheers and congratulations to Loews for taking a stand on the stupid Muslim show! Who cares how the Muslims s=are getting along in the U.S. and why should these towelheads make money fro a TV show showing their dailt existence when there are millions of AMERICANS who are unemployed and struggling through their daily lives with no money. Cancel this stupid unimportant show and deport the family. Who cares??
It is disheartening to read so much hateful ignorance coming from my fellow citizens. Whatever happened to the idea that America is a meeting ground for different cultures and religions? It makes me sad and ashamed that we still have so much bigotry in our society.
Julie, the Koran talks about dying for your beliefs and the reward is 100 virgins.
Virgins? I think you'll Christianity says the same also, sweetheart.
Oh wow... Just because it was a show about "Muslims"? The terrorists we hear about are RADICALS. This assumption and action people are taking is like implying all Christians are Nazis, involved in the Ku Klux Klan, and burn all innocent women because they believe they are witches. I'm dissappointed that people are this ignorant, prejudiced, and paranoid.
This show portrays fake Muslims! I know many many many muslims and NONE of them have tattos or have any interest in opening a night club! These so called muslims on this show have become everything that the muslim religion is against: WESTERNIZED
Reading the company's statement, it seems to me that they were only trying to avoid being in of the news and to steer away from an issue that incites a lot of argument. Although I think their actions were hasty and caused far more grief than they intended, I can't condone taking business away from a company that has been consistently generous to their employees in such hard times.
First of all, freedom of speech and expression 'rights' do NOT extend to the private sector. Secondly, a private company may spend its advertising dollars anywhere it sees fit. I find it hilarious that these left-wing nutcases will demand a company remove advertising dollars from any show that disagrees with THEIR worldview but then turn around and seem to want to force a company to advertise on another show. Pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. Third (and finally), why the heck is it that the only religion that we have to *AHEM* 'tolerate' in this country is ISLAM?!?! I don't see these self-righteous moonbats lining up to endorse CHRISTMAS or allow any sort of religious symbolism to be displayed anywhere that they might actually have to see it. A star of David? Nah, that's offensive. A cross or a Christmas tree? HECK NO!! But Alllah-Forbid that Lowe's should want to pull their advertising from a show that has to deal with Islam. Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?
Excellent post!! Couldn't agree more.
I'm glad I shop at Lowe's and NOT Home Depot as it sounds per the comments on this site that all of the idiots shop at Home Depot with all of the Muslims apparently.
I wrote this earlie. I belive that we agree.
Derrek
Some of you may believe this or not, but our country is so polarized at the moment, that I fear for the future. The basis of our foundation is being attacked by inside and outside interest. I find it hypocritical, that people will attack Christians in our own country as intolerant and ignorant while protecting the rights of a small Muslim minority. Let’s just make sure that we are fair. If we are going to pick on the Christians for their alleged intolerance, then we need to criticize the Muslims for turning their back of the genocide of Christian in their homelands.
I posted support for Lowes on FB page and got attacked by Islamic Muslim's
https://www.facebook.com/lowes/posts/10150418106881231
When you boycott the 26 or so companies, just go ahead boycott the whole USA and leave.
http://zikrayat.tumblr.com/post/14017797491/full-list-of-companies-that-pulled-ads-from-all
Shocking how ignorant the comments are here... well not really shocking. No surprise at all how much hate flows through so many people, along with all kinds of dumb. It's ludicrous that people are using freedom of speech as a defense for Lowe's pulling their ads. Going on about how it's the American way to let them pull their ads from the show. HOW ABOUT THAT SAME FREEDOM BEING RESPECTED WHEN THEY 1ST DECIDED TO ADVERTISE? Why are you not shouting down the fools who pressured Lowe's to pull their ads? Wasn't that pressure un-American? Was that pressure not an attempt to deny Lowe's their freedom to advertise with this show? It's very obvious why you fools are are only speaking up now instead of when Lowe's was being attacked for having ads on the show. Because you are hatemongering bigots just like the one's who pressured them to pull the ads. UN-AMERICAN every single one of you freedom hating hypocrites who are now trying to use freedom as your excuse.
Ben, people can water it down anyway they want, but at the end of the day, a larger group with deeper pockets complaint and Lowe’s caved. It’s called capitalism. Not an insult, just the truth. The green talks louder than our words.
Ben, Protesting is a right for all Americans, and protests have been bringing about change in the US for years. The people protesting the Lowes ad have issues with Muslims killing Christian in Egypt RIGHT NOW!!!... seems like a valid cause, and an ethical response from Lowes. So exactly why are people that disagree with the burning of churches and murdering of Christians in Egypt "hatemongering bigots"?
Ben these are the sme people that blow up abortion clinics and pray for us to have a war with iran. They are just as crazy as the islamic radicals and so lost they can never be found. This country was founded by people who came here to escape intollerance and they were christains fleeing from christain perscution. So much hate in the name of god but its the same god with different names. I think these religious groups are people that have hate and hide behind their religion. Its not about muslims per say they hate everyone they might shot at the mirror if they get too fired up
HEY Ben! Are you a muslim?
The christian conservatives badger lots of people, there is the crazy pastor that protests at solder's funerals, the nut who burns korans and the family planning groups that raise hell with everyone. They are so lost, so off the path that christ walked that it is hard to see these groups as christian. I want to know who will be next, jews, mormons, buddists?
Got one question for them. Who would christ turn away? Yeah think about it.
'I want to know who will be next, jews, mormons, buddists?' They've already had a go at the Jews, many actually. In fact, the Muslims helped protect the Jews at that time
PhillyRN ... You Rock!! Great posts, and I'm glad to see that there are still some Americans who aren't rolling over and believing whatever dribble the media spews out. Islam has some serious issues and Lowes is smart to seperate themselves from this show.
I live in Dearborn, Michigan where this show is filmed. I can tell you they are spinning this show like the Muslims feel they are being treated as outcasts. NOTHING could be further from the truth. Our city government has bent over backwards to accommodate every single area of their lifestyle. My children have had programs pulled from school because they need to create a more comfortable environment for the muslim children. Muslims look at me like I have a lot of nerve being where they live in our city. That is my problem with this show. It's a crock and should be pulled or at least shown how it really is here. Trust me, I know!!!!!
Lowes has allowed Christian fundamentalists to have power over a show about moderate Muslims.
I'll always take the moderates regardless of their religion. Fundamentalists of all religions are dangerous.
Lowes would be sued, shut down and picketed immediately if they dared to pull advertizing on the Shalom Hour or All-America Jew show
While Lowe's has a right to advertise wherever they want, from a businessman's perspective I find it pathetic that they kowtowed down to a small number of right wing evangelical agenda extremists who are more likely to shop at Home Depot (a huge supporter of right wing causes) in any case.
maybe you would like the goverment to tell you who to apology to. i says good job Lowe's. i will keep shopping there.
I'm sure if a store pulled ads featuring Jewish or Christian families, many Americans would decide that they just wouldn't spend money at that store. I think many American feel the same way for a store that would pull their ads just because the families in a television series are Muslim. They have the right to pull their ad and Americans have the right to refuse to spend money in the store. This is what I've decided to do.
So you choose to boycott and hurt the average Joe and Jane that work there and had no say on what people at the C level decided to do. This is great, more Americans out of work. If that company went out of business; the CEO would go home to his 25 million dollar home in FL and his 100 million dollar yacht. The rest of the 50,000 to 100,000 plus employees would wind up looking for a job in one of the worst job market in history. You must be oxygen deprived from sitting on that high horse.
Some of you may believe this or not, but our country is so polarized at the moment, that I fear for the future. The basis of our foundation is being attacked by inside and outside interest. I find it hypocritical, that people will attack Christians in our own country as intolerant and ignorant while protecting the rights of a small Muslim minority. Let’s just make sure that we are fair. If we are going to pick on the Christians for their alleged intolerance, then we need to criticize the Muslims for turning their back of the genocide of Christian in their homelands.
Unless Lowe's has broken some bizarre indiegneous left coast law, Mr. Lieu who should keep his legislative lashings to himself. Likewise for Simmons, who likes to twist the religeous rope a little, this country was built on freedom of CHOICE! The choice to or not to – BOTH WAYS. I'm still going to buy all of my box cutters there.
Then why were you not speaking up and defending Lowe's right to advertise on that show? That was the choice they made. And then some freedom hating bigots deciding to force Lowe's to pull their ads. Where was your cry for freedom then?
Julia @ 3:24pm. Agree!
Democrats have double standards, especially on free speech issues.
omg omg...you think the democrats have double standards? when many republicans disrespect everybody's rights who is not a Christian? and when they only complain when people who think differently than they do express their freedom of speech? really?
Damned if they do, damned if they don't
This is beyond absurd. Yet another example that liberal 'tolerance' means tolerating anything they already agree with. Lowe's, a private company, made a business decision. Don't like it? Don't shop there. And maybe Californian senators need to concentrate on the mess our government is in, not creating controversy where there is none.
The irony of this all is that most of us don't have a problem with the Americanized Muslims who put country over religion–which is not the case for millions of Muslims worldwide who don't have a sense of nation like we Americans do. These families portrayed don't need a show to convince other Americans that they are "like everyone else." The show, in my opinion, is a waste of time for a feel-good populace.
Oh I love it when Christians accuse Muslims of being a violent bunch! As someone said before, 'which religion has been the most violent in the past 2000 years'? You talk about jihad but how much bloodshed have you caused over the years with your wars in the name of religion? You talk about how Muslims discriminate against us Jews, of which I am yet to experience by the way, but lets have look at the horrendous treatment Jews have suffered in the hands of Christians. But hey! Let's forget that and accuse every Muslim of being responsible for the actions of a few terrorists. How do Christian extremists think they are any less backwards than Muslim extremists?
Why not watch the program and find out? I work with many Muslims. Like Christians and Jews, some are more observant than others. Their wives and kids live in the neighborhood, and you wouldn't know they were Muslims unless you talked to them. How is that different than Hasidic Jews, or Roman Catholics?! Don't remain ignorant – go out and learn for yourself.
Lowes has the right to advertise as they choose. This is less a condemnation of Lowes, but more about Modern Amerika. The American Taliban, like its Islamic counterpart, corrupts religion and uses cut-and-paste theology to justify bigotry, hatred and discrimination. Christianity is no less, nor more, cruel and oppressive than Islam. In fact, historically, Islamic societies have been far more tolerant than Christian countries. Jews held political office in the Ottoman Empire, but were legally confined to ghettos and prohibited from professions in Europe. Again, I don't blame Lowe's, I blame the American Taliban.
WAY TO GO LOWES!!! THANK YOU!!!! YOU ROCK!!!!!!!!!
I will buy some stuff from Lowe's today just because of this. Kudos to Lowes for not trying to be politically correct. TLC is trying to shove the muslim lifestyle down our throats, and they want us to embrace it, but I refuse to embrace a religion who literally treats it's women like second class animals. I hope more companies pull their advertising, and this show eventually gets cancelled.
'I refuse to embrace a religion who literally treats it's women like second class animals.' I'm not a Muslim myself by I know that Islam gives a hell of a lot more equality to women than Christianity ever did. Maybe you should learn the difference between culture and religion because most of the mistreatment to women or lack of rights in Asia is more down to culture than religion.
This makes me want to go purchase items at Lowes even though I presently don't need anything.
@ Don and everyone else that is uneducated in the Muslim religion- all Muslims are not violent and don't believe in the War and Islamic political reviews – but America does not show the peaceful Muslims – that would not show the hatred and issues that people FEAR.
So to generalize is wrong. We don't say every priest is a rapist just because the Catholic religion has had some issues do we.
What I don't understand is that large companies can put there commercials up during Sister Wives and series like this which is something that the majority of Americans do not agree with but if we highlight another choice of life its wrong.
The key is you might understand the Muslim religion and not have as much fear and heaven forbid if that is the case.
EDUCATE YOURSELF BEFORE TALKING DETAILS THAT YOU DO NOT KNOW.
Because not all Muslim women wear them, obviously.
How about the other ethnic and racial groups? Do they need their own show?
The ones who need a show are the ones who don't want to assimilate. How
about speaking English in public? How about being American first, in public?
And with all the crazy shows on TLC, it should be called TMC – The Mutant Channel.
I saw the first episode. It is nothing but a shameless attempt at promoting the Islamic religion by saying these are regular Americans. As a journalist, I have covered stories on Muslims and went into mosques. I am not a bigot. But, this show only represents a SMALL slice of the Muslim community.
FRANKLY, MANY IN THE SHOW ARE NOT EVEN PRACTICING, BELIEVING MUSLIMS. Islam is not the fount of all terrorism, but this show is a whitewash.
Luckily the show should be gone soon, though a bit later than expected now due to this controversy. It has consistently been the lowest rated show of its time slot. Not even liberals will watch.
How about "ALL AMERICAN JEW" . See what kind of response you get from our All American Christian family" !!
Reversediscriminals, a few generations back in America you would have been suspected as a radical and a crook just because you were of Italian background, and discriminated against for being Catholic to boot. And as for disrespect, I seem to recall that black people sometimes receive it in Italian neighborhoods.
I agree with Annie. It is none of the congressman or anyone else in governments business where a private company puts their money. They need to stick to working on the economy, jobs, etc and get this country running again. The government needs to keep its big nose out of our business, period!
I agree companies have a right to advertise their products or services on any show they choose. However, if advertisers pulled their ads from the "700 Club" for Pat Robertson's callous and insensitive comments he made about Alzheimer's disease, would its evangelical viewership still agree that it's the advertisers prerogative not to advertise. You know, freedom of speech. I doubt it.
Wow, Ted Lieu sounds like he is sticking his nose where it doesn't below. Why does he think he has the power to FORCE a company to spend money on a certain advertisement. And the letter of apology he is asking for is ridiculous – It is akin to asking all of the people on here who will shop at Home Depot to write a letter of apology to Lowes for not spending money at their store when they reinstate the programming. As a small business owner(and a tolerant person) I wouldn't ever vote for Ted Lieu for any position.
God Bless Lowes!! I am a Lowes customer and I will continue to be one in the future. I cannot wait to shop there again at the next opportunity. You bleeding hearts really make me laugh. Someone mentioned on an earlier post that Islam has declared war on the West. There are muslims in this country and in various parts of the world for that matter that would kill you just as soon as look at you. So by all means lets all join hands and sing We are the World on behalf of islam and how Lowes pulling their adds hurt someones feelings. BTW...did you read the story on CNN about the 60 year old lady that was beheaded in Saudi Arabia...a strict islamic country...for sorcery. Not murder, not rape,...sorcery. Don't know about you, but I find this just a bit barbaric. But lets all make sure that Lowes gets boycotted for pulling their ads.
So, Don, if you're going to lump American Muslims in with Middle Eastern Muslims who kill people over sorcery, does that mean I can lump American Christians in with African Christians who kill people over sorcery? Just curious.
Islam is not a religion; Islam is a political movement aimed at imposing it's Sharia law upon the world and slaughtering all non-believers who refuse to submit to Islam.
GOOD FOR YOU LOWES.. THEY CANNOT FORCE YOU TO SPEND YOUR MONEY ON WHAT YOU WANT.. WHO THE HELL DO THEY THINK YOU ARE.. STUPID SYMPATHIZERS YOU WILL SHOW THEM EXACTLY HOW AMERICA WORKS. FRANKLY HAD I KNOWN YOU WERE SPONSORING A SILLY SHOW LIKE I WOULD HAVE BOYCOTTED AND DETERMINED THAT SPONSORSHIP AS TREASON AND A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY
Have any of you ever been to Dearborn? The Muslims there are ungrateful and disrespectful towards you unless you speak Arabic. As an Italian-American I was very offended by the arrogant store owners and locals treatment of me because I am clearly not Muslim myself. There is a serious problem going on in this country with liberals catering to reverse discrimination. These people preach intolerance of other religious practices and slaughter every other religious group whenever they get the chance throughout the globe. If Lowe's wants to remove ads and not support them, then that's their free right to do. Do you think there would be an outcry if a Muslim-owned franchises removed Catholic/Christian/Buddhist/Jewish TV ads??? Of course not! Wake up America! The liberal agenda is getting old and we are fools for not being a little more selfish with whom and what we choose to support.
what you are describing (people being rude to you) happens pretty much when you go to a community who is used to having a lot of their own around. You will find the same in Miami, some places of the south (many so called Christians have been rude to me without even knowing who I am or where I am from, because I have an accent), New York Little Italy, and many other places. Why do you assume that this shows has an "agenda"? Why do you assume that all democrats think the same, or anybody that disagrees with you is a liberal? or has no rights to speak up, or that you have the right to disrespect them just because they don't think like you? Is this what you want to teach your children? Sad...
It is understandable why many see this as racist and bigotted coming from Lowe's. However, it needs to be seen as support for women's rights. The fact that a religious organization was influential in Lowe's decision making process does not change the fact that it was a boon for women. Opposing this religion, opposes abuse of women.
Wait a minute...I remember all the liberals screaming about, and threatening sponsors of the Glenn Beck show....where are they at? They wanted, and threatened sponsors to withdraw from the Beck show, but they're supporting a harassing move such as this? Threatening Lowes to stay on board? Islam, is an enemy of this country. Sugar coat it any way you want, but it's a fact. Lowes will get my business because of their withdrawal from the charade of a show. Where's the show about al the muslims in Dearborn celebrating in the streets, burning American flags when the twin towers went down? I guess all the media goons were in NY at the time.
the company has a right to advertise when and on what show they want, its not up to ANYONE else since they are not paying for it. Good on you LOWE'S i support it 100% enough of this PC crap
Lowes has a right to choose where to and where not to advertise. People have a right to protest against the decision either way, that's freedom of speech. You have a right to voice your opinion to agree or disagree with Lowe's decision. But some democrats would seize the opportunity to be politically correct by THREATENING 'legislative action"; this is a blatant mockery of their supposedly fierce protection of freedom of speech. If this guy's rhetoric gets majority support, well folks, the democrats are leading us to government sanctioned business policy. Is this the United States of America as we know it?
Lowes has the right to kowtow to fundamentalists, and normal people have the right to tell Lowes to shove it.
Yet another decision we can all rally behind or against. We shall never be a bored species.
The article appears to have stripped off the orignator of the complaint against Lowe's. Ted Lieu actually used this to only promote his name. The original complaint came from the US Michigan Senator Keith Ellison-D who is a devout Muslim. He is seeking to see if Lowe's violated US Law.
Why no mention of this fact in the articale?
I don't question Lowe's right to advertise where they want. But I strongly object to their caving in to fear mongering and bigotry. I would never shop at Lowes for this reason.
My, my, my...it's amazing how easy that last post made it to the thread...seems like Senator Lieu has some friends at this "unbiased" news organization.
I support Lowe's decision.. they have to guts to stand up....Besides TLC should have paid for that production,,or gotten donations for muslims.........Besides who cares about their life anyway......
Talk about a lightning rod.
This is a lot of fuss over nothing. Lowes has the same right to spend their money however they choose as does any individual.
CNN is editing which posts they place in this thread and which they do not. I wrote a post that was polite, but critical of Senator Lieu. It seems to have evaporated. I will be curious to see if this one sees the light of day.
I have had to re-write some of my posts as well. Reword your message but leave the message and it will get posted. That guy is just trying to get votes.
Larry: CNN also conveniently left out the fact that the US Senator from Michgan, Keith Ellison-D, was original one to complain about this. He is a devout Muslim! Lieu is just using this to promote his name for re-election.
If this program is generally very popular, the advertisers will be lining up to take the slots that Lowes has vacated. If the advertisers are not lining up for the opportunity to fill the now available slots, then Lowes made a good business decision. A TV show is all about advertising, if you don't have a good show that a majority of viewers want to watch, then advertisers move away to support TV shows that do draw the biggest audience. Isn't that why a 30 second commercial on the Super Bowl costs millions of dollars to the advertiser?
Thank God Lowes finally came to their senses and saw that what cable TV really needs is even more reality shows about grumpy, overweight, bearded white guys fishing, lumberjacking, mining or arresting people.
You have to hand it to Lowe's for buying advertising for this show in the first place. If bizarre behavior toward others is your problem with Muslims, then I suggest you reexamine Christianity. Both are very anti-gay. Both religions have their untouchables. Both marginalize others, thwart the lives of others and damn each other to hell. Both are active in the infidel department.
Lowe's customers sound like a step down from Walmart customers.
The Florida Family Association is a nutjob organization.............LOL
@JetJagger...LOL...DAT beat me too it...did you really just make that up or are you trying to reinforce Korrine's NASCAR nation theory by not reading anything about this decision before posting?
If they chose not to advertise that IS their prerogative. But to come out sounding like bigots isn't right. Calling those 5 families liars that they'd hide some part of their life is ridiculous. IMO, the ONLY way racism and hate will end is if we ALL switch lives and live in each others shoes, but with how many closed minded people live in the US, that'll never happen cuz it's easier to hate, which we all know is what Jesus stood for...
I fully support Lowe's decision to pull their advertising. There is no other race or religion dedicated to killing Americans except muslims/islam. You have only to watch the headlines to see how they treat women in countries that operate under Sharia law. They just killed a elderly women that the fools said was a witch. I did not nor do I intend to watch that show. I did not nor do I intend to be around Muslims. I did not nor do I intend to fly if a muslim is on the same plane if I know about it. I did not nor do I intend to become Muslim. I did not nor do I respect the religion. How can you respect a religion where the founder married a little girl. Just like fundamentalist mormans, that is perversion, not religion.
If Lowe's apologizes... I am going to Home Depot.
You should definitely stay with Lowe's. it's great for racist, white trash bigots like yourself.
The issue is that Lowe's DID advertise during this time slot until the ridiculous allegations of a group of discriminating people. If they had chosen not to run their ads there in the first place, that's one thing. But to cave to a group of radical alarmists is just crazy. The Florida Family Association stands for what? Love, peace, acceptance, and harmony? I think not. In the meantime, given that I have no Home Depot nearby, I shall be a loyal Menard's customer.
I will continue to shop at Lowe's because I believe they have a right to advertise or not advertise with whom ever they choose. Where is their freedom?????
Since when did we cower in the USA on freedom of expression and when did Muslims rule this country??? The moron Muslims that are fighting this need to get with it.. this is America, we tolerate your faith.. you tolerate our stuff. Don't like it..get teh hell out or don't shop there. USA is about tolerance and freedom of religious expression. Its your right to complain and protest.. I think we should just drop pigs in their back yards.
Lowe's certainly has a right to advertise on whatever show it wishes to and to reach out to whatever market it feels will benefit its bottom line the most but by the same token Americans have the right to spend their money where they please and patriotic, right thinking Americans who have not been blinded by hate for other cultures inspired by so-called "Christian" groups have the right to boycott Lowe's and shop elsewhere as I will be doing. Similarly, Senator Lieu has the right to express his outrage and idignation at Lowe's for caving in to a bunch of bigots. We need more people in politics like him.
California Sen. Ted Lieu considers legislative action if Lowe's doesn't apologize .That is BS Go after this company but not banks and loan companies for what they done to this country.If you have the power to go after lowes than you have the power to go after banks.
Wow.. some of you must live in a bubble... you've never had a Muslim neighbor/coworker/friend? Are you actually serious when you say these people are ALL terrorists and extremists practice Sharia law? Really? I've been in the US for the past 20 years and I've met plenty of Muslim-Americans who are very similar to those on the show, which is at least a first step (not a perfect portrayal) in showing other Americans that most Muslims are actually pretty cool (and for my experience, usually pretty bright, educated, and highly accomplished). I don't condone what goes on in many Middle Eastern countries and what some of their followers do, but to say that the show is hiding some "secret agenda" or "propaganda" is ignorant, just get out there and meet people for yourself and you'll see. I'm sorry that Lowe's pull the ad to cater to some so called "christians" (in my opinion, that is not what Christ is about), because it sets the wrong example. It feeds into some delusions that some people have. That's all. We need to speak up about this and stop hating each other and try to pull the country together!
BLOOD TESTING FOR APPLICANTS
Never was I required to sit for a blood test until I applied to Lowe's Home Improvement in Garner, NC. There were only two of us applying for work at the time. They claimed it was a part of their drug testing policy and forced both of us to take that in addition to a cheek swab. I had never experienced anything like that and wondered if they had performed a DNA test to discriminate in their hiring practices. If anyone else was forced to do this – report that store.
Freedom huh? What freedom? I refuse to shop at any franchise that supports biggotry...I mean on one end people are like where are the Muslims who don't support terrorism...Where to the ones that don't support Bin Laden... Now that you see a small percentage...you are like "why are they trying to hide Islams hidden agenda?" !!Hypo-cratics!!"
Yet, some of us have not lived with our heads in the sand all of our lives and actually know some muslims. They are not all radicalized murdering women haters. Some of them are very nice people, good friends and good Americans. But Lowes can advertise where they want. Those of us who try not to be bigots can boycott them if we want, as well.
Lowes has the right to advertise where they whant as restaurants have the right to hire whom they wish, our country is tumbling down, with the politicly correct stupidity, and poeple being afraid to express themselves, there are some groups (race, religion, cults) that love to promote hate, we must stop being harrased in our own country, by people that hate us.
So, now what happens when TLC cancels the show for low ratings? Are the muslims going to call foul?
it's so sad most muslims i have met are nice my heart doctor is a muslim i dont have a problem why should lowes
But probably they are muslims from Turkey, India, or other countries not like Oman, Libia, Saudi Arabia, Irak, Iran, Yemen, Egypt, Arab emirates, most of the Muslims form the middle east prompte hate and if they could would kill eveyrone including your doctor
No other faith wants to kill Americans. I agree with Lowe's. Christains and Jews do not surpress females. Islam is a racist religion, and if you are Muslim control your people. I never feared Muslims nor profiled them till 911, so now they can all burn in HELL. It is a totaly ass-backwards religion that will never change.
bigot schmigot, Lowe's has every right to pull their advertising. This is America people, just because someone puts a show out there about 3 foot purple people DOESN'T mean EVERYONE has to like it. That's the beautiful thing about America. However, all this Political Correctness crap is destroying any freedoms we have left. You have the right to boycott anyone you want, that's America, but stop thinking every time something happens there needs to be a movement.
Perhaps Lowes is pulling the advertising for this show ONLY for the publicity- like Chick-Fil A does once in awhile with the anti-gay talk.
@Tracy- Remember Timothy McVeigh?
Reinstate the ads or "contend with legislative action" ???? What? Is he planning on passing a law requiring corporations to spend their money advertising on channels that our all-knowing politicians deem appropriate? That's a pretty slippery slppe, not too far from requiring citizens and consumers to spend their money as the government sees fit. Regardless whether you think Lowe's was right or wrong, they have the choice of where they decide to spend their money and how they advertise.
See En En sux with their censorship....I did post without any cursing or threats of any kind and it was not ever displayed. Unbelievable. Someone just did not like that I do not feel Iz-lam is a religion, it is a cult.
Well this solves my dilemma when I drive to a location that has a Lowes and a Home Depot right next door to each other. Lowes wins! I appreciate them coming out and not being afraid to show they will not support an evil cult.
I think the real winners in this situation are the voters in California Sen. Ted Lieu's district. Somehow they managed to elect someone who doesn't even know what being a State Senator means. Since when does any legislative body have the authority to direct a company, public or private, to spend their advertising dollars in a certain way?
Ted Lieu, you're an idiot, and as such, must certainly be a proper representative for the Californians who elected you.
so many bigots still. unbelievable.
Where do you think they went?
My state in the south is full of bigots who don't think they are bigots. They think because they go to church and pray to god they can't be a bigot.
I know. It just amazes me that all this hate towards anyone or any race still exist. where is the compassion?
@Max & Joey: I think a good many of those bigots are posting right here, pretending to be good Americans, good Christians, or both.
Bigots.... how many other religions want to kill Americans? Muslium is a hate religion and you are nieve in thinking that is bigotry.
My family practicallly built our home with Lowes products and usually buy from them monthly. We won't be going there anymore. Home depot is also in our town and they have new customers.
so many biggots still. unbelievable.
Way to go Lowes. You have the right to sponsor whoever you want. I haven't heard from anyone watching this show.My personal opinion it is a bust. My america free speech opinion.
I guess it's only "Love thy Neighbor" if your neighbor is Christian and White.
I think people are a little confused here. Lowe's isn't bigoted, the people (who may not even be their customers) who sent them letters are bigots. Lowe's just wants to make money and believes this will work better for them. They may be spineless, but that doesn't equate to bigoted.
As far as religious agendas, this is the same channel that runs "19 kids and counting" "Sister Wives" and "Sarah Palin's Alaska." Double Standard anyone?
My thoughts exactly! Sister wives is a joke.
Lowe's is supporting bigotry and catering to the bigots. In some ways that can be argued as being just as bad (if not worse).
You had me until you mentioned Sarah Palin's Alaska. How is showing the rest of the country the most beautiful parts of the 49th state a bigoted show? I'm sure, however, that you did not watch it simply because she is a Republican. Too bad. It was a pretty fascinating look at a state you'll probably never see.
I'll be honest with all of you: The day this world is free from the Judeo-Christian tradition of pride, greed, rape, murder, racism, and intolerance then that will be the day the peoples of this world will truly be free. I can't put in to words how much I despise what religion does to people. If you want to believe in tooth fairies, gods, hobbits, then go ahead and be an idiot, but KEEP YOUR FILTHY RELIGIONS OUT OF THE REST OF OUR LIVES.
Just an "Oh, by the way". This FL group seems to be opposed to sharia law in the Muslim religion, but they ignore the "Dominionist" in the christian religions. You might want to check them out and see what they want. You might start here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominion_theology. Then when you are done with that try reading Leviticus and Duteronomy. Then tell me the differance between sharia laws and the biblical laws espoused by this group.
I HATE INDIANS. GO HOME.
How un-American is that? Although it is commendable for TLC to try and educate the less informed people about the fact that not all Muslims are flying planes into buildings or praying for the destruction of our country, I don't plan on watching the show. I don't a problem with whoever wants to live here as long as they are willing to uphold American values, American born or not. All citizens should uphold the values of whatever country they live in. Most of it is to just be decent to each other anyway and should not stop at America. That should not diminish any patriotism they have for their former home country. And why, why, why is religion even being mentioned? Not all Muslims follow Islam. The show is "All-American Muslim", not, "All-American Islamist".
American women fought bled and died to attain the women's rights we now enjoy. Why would any American female be supportive of anyone supporting the perpetuation of anything that seeks to control a woman's body and mind. The Muslim women are subjected daily to the very ills women's rights movements have sought to eradicate in America since it was established. Lowe's proves itself to be a progressive supporter of women's rights when it refuses to support organized opposition to the rights of women.
What control over a womans mind and body? Covering yourself up in Islam is recommended, but it's still a choice. Many women choose not to, some choose to. You're confusing Religion with Culture here, in some middle eastern countries they do tend to be a little more overpowering when it comes to women, but that has NOTHING to do with religion, that is the CULTURE of that specific country. It is not something Islam encourages. They just use it as an excuse to lay these rules down. Again...people should research a little more before assuming. Because you will make an ass outta yourself.
"To choose or not to choose" is an action of the "mind." Religious beliefs influences the mind, which, influences the "choice." "They tend to be a little more overpowering when it comes to women" exemplifies my exact point. American women are not interested in anyone being "a little more overpowering" of them, hence the many women's rights movements. As for "research" so as not to "make an ass outta yourself," research has not helped you any Random Lady.
America: The freeist country in the world inhabited with the most idiots. The people of this country have embarrassed me today by categorizing people as terrorist just because they are Muslim. In that case, our prison system has more black people than any other race......therefore ALL black people are criminals. Rich white people owned slaves back in the day so that makes ALL white people racist and slave owners. The Pope ordered many people to be murdered because they deviated from Catholicism so ALL Catholics are murderes. See how stuipd your argument is? You can't categorize an entire group of people because of a few bad apples.
Just to clarify... I know of no Pope who has ever ordered anyone to be murdered. Popes called for (not ordered) crusades, but EVERY crusade was in response to an invasion of the holy land... so they were all self-defense and not murder. And the Spanish Inquisition which had some local corruption in the early years, was considered one of the most just courts in Europe for centuries. I'm assuming you're eluding to these events as most people do, but an examination of history will show that many people spread false facts on these topics.
JP – Just to clarify... The Inquisition was not a quiz show. Many people were tortured to death and a great deal of property seized by the church.
For those of you here defending Lowes, just remember.... we don't want to hear it when some company does something to upset the Christians. We'll just say they are exercising their rights. Right? People sure love dishing it out when its not their behind on the fire, or when its not them being discriminated against. But that's ok, you've got your mouths to run, and I've got my wallet that won't be seeing the inside of a Lowes for a very long time.
This is about more than a dispute between one religious sect and another. A female atheist has a right to freely express her mind and exercise full control of her own body. This is in opposition to a practiced belief system in America, which, by its own tenets, threatens the very core freedom of women and girls every day. No sane American female want to see such a system flourish.
So, if Nike realized that they were spending a lot of money advertising in the AARP Magazine or National Geographic, and they pulled their ads from there, would that be ok? This is a business decision, and it's their business. If they are losing money does it make sense to keep doing it? No. That result would put more people out of work. Geeze, people.
"The senator also called for Lowe's to reinstate its advertising, along with an apology, or contend with legislative action."
Isn't the terrorist the guy that uses ANY means to achieve his agenda?
A government of the people, by the people, for the people, unless it has to resort to threats, and strong arm tactics.
I'm switching to Home Depot. I'm Jewish and have many Muslim friends. They are as American as I am or any other American. Lowe's motivation for pulling their adds is disgusting. Caving to racist groups is shameful. I like their local store much better than Home Depot but I'm switching. won't go back to Lowe's EVER unless they reverse this and apologize. Disgusting to see this type of thing in 2011.
I agree that Lowe's has the right to advertise wherever they want. But I have seen this show. These families are no different than any other group. Some are observant; others not so much. All are living their lives in the American Way and none of them are trying to subvert our freedoms. They are all happy to be here, working in the communities, raising families, contributing to society. Do NOT categorize all Muslims because of the random acts of some. Isn't this what we're all about here? Families in Dearborn are not plotting terrorist acts. Get over it folks. Vive la difference!
To clear up "free speech" rights for those who may not fully understand: Businesses involved in what is called interstate commerce, cannot discriminate via otherwise protected speech (which includes actions) without the possibility of being sued. That's why lunch counters can no longer refuse to serve black people. The Supreme Court interpreted the first amendment in this way. Refusing to place ads in a slot merely because the program portrays Muslims, is discrimination. They can be sued for it.
Lowe's should be ashamed of itself to be depicted as a bigot organization. Anyone with a backbone, who stands up for what's right should boycott Lowe's. How insecure are these Florida Association people that they think a show will brainwash people and turn them into Muslim Zombies? How ridiculous is this? Lowe's is a redneck / white trash organization that is apparently against Muslims and takes sides in Religion and should be boycotted but not just Muslims but anyone who is FOR equality and peace. Lowe's just marked itself as a bigot company in the eyes of the consumers.
"American Muslims" is one of the few television programs that I enjoy. It gives me information and insight to understand
another culture. It amazes me how much they have acculturated into our society in spite of the difficulties imposed upon them by misinformation and prejudice. I am ashamed as an American that many of the posted comments seem to blame 9/1on them or seem to think they are a threat to our liberties. To those who rely on chain e-mails, talk radio and television pundits to form faulty opinions, please check out the veracity of the information before passing it along.
Okay, well, I guess I'll shop at Home Depot first, then.
Now, Lowe's, you have to decide whether to cater to those who hate other religions and go out of their way to attack them, or those who just hate hate. Which group would you like to attract with your tax dollars?
Hint: I've paid of my own home, and it's due for some fixing up.
What are people so afriad of- it only leads down a slippery slope. Why do cooperations, such as Lowe's- react to the far right- people who are loud, scary and small. Why should an AD for a TV show offend anyone- you don't have to watch the show if you don't want to. Grow up people.
I shopped at Lowe's (once) years ago and was given the runaround on a storm door. They charged me $35 for the installation estimate then said the door couldn't be adapted to my front door frame. I hired my own carpenter who did it in hours. Never got my $35 back but I never went back to Lowe's either.
As for this latest issue, whatever happened to "Christian" love and tolerance? You know, like Bachmann and Palin? (Bear in mind, whenever I write "Christian," I put it in quotes. Most "Christians" I know all filled with hate and loathing.)
Lowe's is totally right. They are not portraying the real Islam, only the watered down American version. It's not a real reflection of what Islam really believes. It's time American's woke up and understood their hatred of Christains and Jews. If the show was any good they would have to fire everyone on the show and start over with the real Islamists.
Sally, that's just ridiculous. How about the "Real" Jewish agenda in Palestine or the "Real" Christian agenda in the United States? Get over your idiotic religious beliefs as soon as possible, all of you.
Do you know that Islam considers females "unpure" during menses and post-pregnancy? Do you know that because of that belief, it is seen as "fair" to discriminate against females? People who are defending this religion need to wake up and get educated about what they REALLY believe and what they are trying to turn American into...
May I suggest doing a little more research before throwing empty statements out there. Stop living in fear that a religion can convert the whole of America, that is nothing but pure stupidity. Do you honestly, really think that will happen? Really? What about everyone elses perception on the FLDS because of Jeff warren? Aren't they all child molesters/rapists? Or is it just him?
The continuous ignorance in America will never cease to amaze me. Maybe it's time to step outside of the box and be a little more open minded.
The bigotry in this country is astounding. Calling all Muslims terrorists is like calling all Christians the KKK. I grew up with Muslims, they don't hate America, in fact, most are Americans. Stop generalizing, it makes your stupidity and ignorance obvious.
Have a look into what the muslims abroad are up to. You will find that while their objectives are not being realized with the exact same tactics used by the Soviet Union to gain power and influence in Afghanistan during the 80's their goals remain just as questionable. We don't owe it to give muslims in america or in the entire world our trust. They need to earn it first. They won't do it with their muslim brotherhood sponsored "let's all be buddies campaign". We are not bigots. We are informed people who read our news from more than one source – that being the CNN&Mtoo! network.
I'm glad Lowe's is pulling the ads. Otherwise I would have no way to know they are operated by a bunch of spineless, ignorant, bigots. There is a difference between having the right to do something and doing something that is right. Bye bye Lowe's.
Perfectly said!
I just watched an interview on CNN with the leader of the group who got Lowe's to pull their ads. When they were discussing the congressman who called Lowes out on their move The "leader" started going on about the "separation of church and state."
Please explain to me why this issue is any different than putting the 10 commandments in the courthouse of religious displays on government property! Where is the outcry for separation of church and state when this happens.
The hypocrisy continues.
That's a tough one for Lowe's. They are really between a rock and a hard place. On the one hand, they risk alienating millions of Americans who do all the building, remodeling, and repairing. On the other, they risk alienating a group of people who blow things up so that the others have to go to Lowe's to do the building, remodeling, and repairing.
As for me? I ask, who are the real racists? Answer: The idiots who insist on forcing a group of people down our throats, denying the reality that the VAST majority of terrorist acts are perpetrated by Muslims, even against each other, and whose written religious doctrine is world domination. These are the facts. You may now choose to stick your head in the sand (or whatever other warm, dark place you may choose) and ignore them, or accept them.
A VAST majority of little boy child molesters are Catholic priest. So we should ban Catholicism too right? I mean, is EVERY Catholic a child molester. The one's I see on TV are.
I will still shop at Lowes, it's their choice...people don't realize that Lowes is cutting it's workforce...if the clientele is predominantly Christian, why should they advertise on this show? Once again liberal democrats trying to run a corporation...what a shame...it's not Muslims that you should fear but the liberal agenda and government
Doesn't Lowes or anyone else have the right to sponsor what they want? Advertising is intended to raise business and profits. Why spend your money on a show that no one wants to watch? Maybe there's still advertising space on Charlies Angels. Get a life folks!!!!!!!!
For everyone saying they are moving to Home Depot now....why not do the true American thing and support your local, small family owned hardware store? Supoort the small business owner, not the giant corporations... :0)
the simplistic islamiphobia being spouted about here is the what prompted Lowe's to sheepishly pull their ads in the first place. it's sad that such close-minded bigoted thinking still pervades, and sadder still that so many are proud to boast their discriminatory vitriol.
You are an idiot. Learn something about Islam before you go defending it as a mainstream religion. Wake up fool!
Christians have absolutely no history of slaughter and extreme behavior. Just overlook the crusades.
did you know you're a doooochebag?
Christianity has caused more bloodshed than any other religion. They really have room to talk.
Guess who made the Crusades happen there genius? That's right.... MUSLIMS!! They invaded Christian lands, raped, pillaged and got a reaction. The Crusades were a response to the invasion of an evil cult. In simple words that a dolt like yourself would understand, there was a MUSLIM CRUSADE against Christians FIRST. Look it up tard. Btw – I'm not a Christian. I just hate all the muslim lies.
@Thayer...nice revisionist history there big guy...the Crusades occurred more than 300 years after the invasion of Gaul buy the Turks...it was more of an excuse by the papacy to invade Jerusalem & "liberate" the Holy Land and spread Christianity than a "response" to their invasion...
The show is commercial speech and the ads are commercial speech. The government has no say in either.
Sorry, that should be "little say". Governments does has a say in allocating bandwidth and can limit certain kinds of speech, inflammatory, but nothing in this instance is subject to government control.
Lowe's did the correct thing and I will continue to support with them.
GO LOWES-I'll continue to shop with you!
There seems to be a bit of picking and choosing about the rules. Some seem to suggest that as an alternative to watching the show people can turn it off, however their are failing to see that it is in fact the same as Lowes pulling the advertisements during this program.
In short, Lowes had every right to pull the advertisements. For one, the advertisement is property which they own – television is simply the medium through which they are delivering it. Second, they clearly stated that it was because they preferred to allow local communities to form their own opinion. This to me is nothing more than people bending the situation to meet their personal or political agenda.
And no, I don't think this show is trying to hide anything. I think the creators are in fact trying to do the opposite – a little understanding and compassion could be a good course here – something I seem to think that people of all faiths could embrace.
I am muslim American and proud of it , and I am naturalized American and proud of it. America is still the most free country on earth and still has respect for Islam and Muslims.
i do not have cable, so i watch TLC when i am travelling and staying in hotels. i have never watched the show so no comments, but know that Muslims are now part of American Fabric, love it or hate it or leave it,
it is going to be there start living with it in peace and make bridges using Lowes product and aid in improving the econmomy. just work in getting the economy up and dUS debt to zero.
i buy at Lowes/HD, no problem, HD has better products, Lowes has better price and service.
I'm glad to hear that there is still some stores out there that have not forgotten that it was MUSLIMS that were on the planes that put this country in the path that we took. Americans should stand with them and only shop at stores that support good values, for even though it was not this family in the show that committed the terrorist action, it was the actions of MUSLIMS.
"Muslim" does not equal "terrorist". While most terrorists are muslim (some are Irish/Christians), most Muslims are not terrorists. That would be like saying all Christians are part of the KKK.
So was the truck bombing of the Federal building in Oklahoma a Christian terrorist bombing, or is it different when Christians kill people?
Oh Greg. Silly, silly Greg. Once again, let's perpetuate this myth that OKC was done in the name of religion. It wasn't. Even Rachel Maddow's show debunked that BS and showed that it was an anti-government sentiment that drove Mr. McVeigh to take those lives. Unlike 9/11, where the ENTIRE EVENT was staged in the name of Islam. Please get it right. Please. I can't take the ignorance anymore.
Lowe's pulls its' advertising of a tv show purported to be about radical, religious propagandizing extremists. This was told to them by radical, religious propagandizing extremists except they're Christian.
no it was told to them by their Media buyer...is everyone in your family retarded or just you?
Harvey, the moment you start name calling and also insulting the handicapped to boot, you lose what little credibility you had.
Recent achievements by Muslims –
* Saudi Arabia put a 60 year old lady to death for "sorcery and witchcraft"
* Several young girls who had been sold into marriage in various Islamic countries were put to death or are sentenced to death for "adultery" after being raped while their rapists have usually gone free
* Young girls in Afghanistan have had acid thrown on their faces for having the nerve to go to school
* Young women killed in the name of "family honor" by their own relatives in often horrifying fashion because the girls committed the sin of falling in love and seeing the boy they were in love with
These and other horrors are what those defending Islam are defending. It is the great evil of our time. Americans better wake up to what the likes of those in "All American Muslims" are trying to put a nice face on. What they represent is pure evil that would enslave the bulk of humanity and keep us in the stone age.
@ Martin, since we are generalizing here, shall we not talk about Catholic priests who molest young boys??
I was raised a Muslim, I work as a research scientist for AIDS, am I an evil person? All I can say is, if you don't possess an open enough mind to realize that not every member of a faith is the same, then shame on you. There are extremists in every religion, not just Islam. While I whole-heartedly do not agree with their actions, if America is land of the free, why can't the show stay on? Cause we'd rather watch little girls get spray tanned and forced to prance around on stage for money cause it's cute. Pathetic.
last time I shop at Home Depot
Advertising is a regulated free speech. There are stipulations around the free speech when money is involved. The Senator has no rights or grounds for threatening Lowes with Legislative action. An advertising budget is just that a budget geared towards promoting your company, your image, your ideals and your products. It is used to advertise or broadcast your message to you're demographic. From the statement Lowes released, they simply said after listening and observing, they didn't want any part of the discussion. Its actually a very sound decision on their part. Heated debate on powder keg topics such as Muslim life and Muslim indoctrination while on the pro side of the discussion aids in promoting a cleaner image of the muslim life style, should sentiments shift, has great potential for ostercizing established customers. In this situation, Lowes was gonna take a hit to its reputation regardless. If they stayed they might be viewed as anti christian or anti american, but they decided to step back from the table and now they take a hit as being anti muslim. Anti this or anti that. More of their customers are American than Muslim so stepping back was the safest action for them to take. I personally find the whole debate and ordeal sophmoric. If we can put Jersey Shore on television in all its short bus content, watching muslims living on television seems about on par with most reality based television. It won't be an actual depiction of the Muslim lifestyle and I have over a hundred channels on my satellite and I watch fifteen of them. Its not like its x factor. Leave the advertising in place or pull it, its about money and which decision puts the most in a businesses pocket. If you don't like it, start your own business and make you're own decisions. A small business teeters constantly on the edge of failure. A mid size business is fairly stable and can maneuver quite easily. Large corps like Lowes. A wrong decision can sink the ship fairly easily. Let them put their money where they see fit. If they made their decision based on some biggoted reasoning, its not financially sound and decisions like that will ultimately sink em. If it was a financial decision, then I support. Religion, politics, and emotion have no place in corporate decision making. Number one priority for those who run the company is to the stock holders. Nuff said.
Moderate islam does not exist, the show itself is complete BS.
Muslims cannot choose one part of Islam to follow and not the rest. Don't be idiots, these people don't care for freedom or America, they are here to take and oppress like they do in the middle east. Robert Spencer is a great scholar in this field, I am slowly learning the evils of this "cult" of murdering children, kidnapping, forcing to convert to islam or die, paying the non-muslim tax, raids against copts and the general killing of innocent people in the middle east that belong to a different faith.
The crusades are coming again and this time Islam will fall.
Why can't Muslims choose one part to believe but not the other parts? Christians choose certain parts of the Bible to believe and disregard other parts.
I guess you have NO idea what Islam is and you have no idea about this religion you have this religion in English read it and you will see what you are missing. you know what the first verses that god ordred prophet Muhamed to do is to read, it means get knowledge and than you will understand islam better.
Lowes started their business as providing discount home improvement supplies to the miltiary servicemen. They still provide all servicemen and veterans a 10% discount on all purchases – all the time. Somehow, I don't think they are worried about upsetting their most loyal customers.
The god particle is alive and well but missing entirely in the brains of Lowes advertising team.
We need more educational outreach in regards to history, race, culture and religion. There are good and bad people no matter what the race, culture and religion. It's sad how un-united we've become in America. CNN needs to do a report on Rio Rancho, NM and other cities where people are being stonewalled due to their race, culture and religion. There's a lot of communities in the USA that have cultures where people are treated poorly or bullied because of differences. Shame on Lowes!
A lot of posts here and about half of you don't know history or the Koran (or Bible) Check out thereligionofpeace.com and get educated just a little bit and then pray for America. TLC has no brains but plenty of PC!
Any company or person in America is damned if they do, damned if they don't. If Lowe's had resisted advertising in the first place, they would called be racist and anti-Muslim just as they are now that they dropped advertising. I do not TRUST Muslims. I honestly believe they have their own agenda and if they live their lives by the Koran, anyone other than Muslims are infidels. I am tired of having their religion pushed down my throat. I am tired of being told to be more tolerant. Lowes is not going to be hurt anymore by this action than Home Depot will be helped. Maybe Home Depot should pick up the advertising. I'll still go to both (however I do like Lowes better)
Well if you ever wondered if there is strong bigotry on both sides of an issue like this, well you have your answer here. You have a long ways to go on both sides.
Its OK Lowes, there is always Home Depot and Menards where I live. They'll be getting my money from now on. Bigotry will not be tolerated AT ALL.
Oh, and Lowe's – yeah, you lost another customer. I guess now we know why this chain is doing so well – the GOP is funding them.
The Florida 'Family' Association supports families as long as they are white, rich, American and claim to be Christian. Yeah, that defines 'family'. So they can already shut up. There is no 'Muslim agenda' although they certainly don't seem to have a problem with the Facist Nazi Network agenda of pushing *their* religion. (And for the record, yes, I am white and Christian but, oddly, I follow Jesus not FOX/GOP). What I wouldn't give to be able to sit back and watch so many of these so-called Christian Conservative GOP freaks on Judgement Day when suddenly they won't be able to spin or lie their way out of their hate and racism.
AQ don't think you know Jesus at all. You just believe in Him...but you don't follow him.
LOWE'S SHOWS THAT THEY HAVE NO INTERGRITY BY BOWING DOWN AND LICKING THE ANUSES OF THE RIGHT WING BLIND CHRISTIANS
Actually, the DNC and Obama are the racists. They never supported this show with an advertisement. Boycatt them.
SO I GUESS THE GOP IS TOO, BUT WE ALREADY KNEW THAT.
Yes, Lowes has a right to advertise anywhere they want, but the fact of this story is that they chose to support this said show until someone got a little pouty about it. One group got upset and did the American thing to do which is write strongly worded letters, and Lowes runs away with it's tail tucked. I just find it funny at how sensitive people have become in this day and time.
Korrine, by all means, do go to Home Depot, that way, those of us who shop at Lowes won't have to worry about running into the likes of you.
I've read several articles outlining that a large number of Muslims don't like the show, either. They didn't feel appropriately depicted by the families on the show. If Lowes is hearing it from all sides, why can't they pull out? Perhaps they should pen guidelines to stay out of all controversial shows. Either way, they should not be forced to keep advertising on the show.
There is a home for Muslims, but not here!
There is a home for Christians, but not here.
Good grief. Lowes can advertise or not as they choose. Smart business decision to avoid controversy. You don't like it don't shop there. Next..
Uh, except the controversy only exists because they pulled the ads, dummy.
GOOD JOB LOWE'S THANK YOU FOR PULLING YOUR ADVERTISING. THE BRAND OF THE SHOW IS EXTREMELY INSULTING TO THE COLORS OF OUR GREAT NATION AND DISGRACES THE VERY NAME OF OUR BEAUTIFUL COUNTRY BY PUTTING THE SYMBOL OF ISLAM IN PLACE OF THE "c" IN THE NAME OF OUR COUNTRY. TO THE FEW HUNDRED ISLAMIC SWINE THAT WANT TO MURDER OUR COUNTRY THEY SEE THIS SYMBOL IN OUR NATIONS NAME AS A VICTORY OF THEIR AGENDA TO OPRESS AND MURDER OUR ENTIRE NATION AND PEOPLE WITH ISLAM AND SHARIA.
One word for you.. What? I have no idea what you are spewing right now lol...
Jeremy, what happened in your life that you are so full of anger, bitterness and hatred? Is one stupid TV show really so frightening to you, and apparently several others, that you have to fist pump and complain until the advertisers fear your ridiculous retaliation? Do you know ANYTHING whatsoever about Islam, or do you just THINK you do?
If there were a show called "Idiots In America", you'd be its star!
Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy. Jeremy.
Russell Simmons has enough bigotry, to contend with, against African Americans to last him a lfetime, some of it coming from Muslims. He should learn "charity begins at home." There is no "trickle down effect" beneficial to African Americans in fighting other Ethnic groups' wars. He should get busy addressing Lowe's support or lack there off of his own people and I assure you he would have no time to interject himself into the Muslim/Lowe's dispute.
When fascism comes to the United States, it will be wrapped in a flag and carrying a bible. –Sinclair Lewis
Sinclair Lewis was an alcoholic. I'd hardly put him in charge of fortune telling, a kind of Amy Winehouse of literature.
Great quote! I suspect many Americans would understand and accept diversity if they spent some time in other lands. We have recruiters who can make that happen!
I lived in Dearborn and my wife grew up in Dearborn. We are not Muslim or Arabs. This program protrays Muslims as they really are-Joe Schmoe living in America. They have their own unique problems, issues, and extremists, just like any other religion, race, or ethnic group. What FFA is doing is un-American and what bothers me the most is that they think that they speak for the people when they are such a small majority and advertisers are too scared to stand up to them.
Kind of ironic that their decision to not get involved in a hot button issue has made them the focus of the issue. That's what happens when you give in to special interest groups, I guess. And they're from Florida, what a surprise!
oh get over yourselves..........
Good for you Lowe's my household and family have all sent emails , a total of approx 59 emails were sent to urge all advertisers to stop supporting this show. It is foremost a disgrace to our national colors and our countries name to put the symbol ofthe evil empire of Islam in the word America to replace the "c" in the word. Islam is the reason that humanity cannot achieve a peaceful civilized harmony! There may be a few Islamists that are not violent but there are a few hundred million Islamic believers that want to see all Americans converted to Islam and sharia law or otherwise be dead. This religion teaches that if you are not Islamic then you are an infidel and the infidel is considered to be the evil to Islamic believers. No other religion has a few hundred followers that want to extirminated entire countries like islamics want to extirminated Americans and Jews. You are free to practice your religion in America but that is to be done within your home of place of worship. This is a Christian country with our own state and local law and we do not need anything more. Islamics are trying to have sharia law accepted in the American judicial system and the request is obsurd. These Muslims and their idiotic belief system is a religion of oppression, murder, violence, intolerance of other religions, self ritiousness, oppression of woman and children to the point that an islamic woman raped by an Islamic man will be persecuted and sentenced to prison then forced to marry her assaulter. It teaches that the rape of children is tolerated with only few instances of very minimal punishment to the one committing the act, it teaches such things as woman being stoned to death for wanting to leave her violently abusive spouse, it encourages extremely violent acts of terror indiscriminate of civilians, woman and children, it teaches to lie and deceive all non Islamic persons inthe name of Islam, it teaches that all non Islamic places of worship should be burned and distroyed inthe name of Islam, it's teachings are nothing less then intollerence of all others and the disability of civilization and abolishment of the civilized world.
Seriously, dude, get a grip. You remind me of that song in "Beauty in the Beast", when they sing about how what they don't understand scares them, so they have to "kill the beast". And 56 emails? Obsess much?
@Jeremy= What is wrong with America in a nutshell. Uneducated, xenophobic, flag waving "patriot" in whose eyes America can do no wrong. Try getting out to the rest of the world once in a while Jeremy and meet people other than like minded drones like yourself. You'll find that most Muslims are actually nice people (just like most Christians, Jews, Atheists, Agnostics, etc).
Good job Jeremy, thanks for doing that. People are just blind to the fact that islam is just a completely totalitarian and evil cult of brainwashed seventh century lunatics trying desperately to implant their twisted totalitarian seeds and laws in nations all over the world. The cultural and religious difference is too much and I believe the west and european nations should not be so gullible as to let these people take a strong hold in their nations, which in the long run for sure will only end in tragedy because both sides will be too stubborn if conflicts arise.
Jeremy, your mom dropped you when you were a kid. You are full of hate. I don't think the Muslims are bad, I think you are. They believe in one GOD that the Christians and Jews believe in. It seems like you believe in GOD also but your GOD's name is Lucifer.... That Explains all the hate towards this group. Jeremy is un-American and a bigot!!!
Most of you people posting are racist and you're too stupid to even realize it. Telling someone to go back to Afghanistan simply because they are racist. Hey Catholics, Go back to Rome! Hey Anyone that claims to be Christian, Go back to Israel. Baptist should go back to Amsterdam! Leave America to believe in the spirits of the original Native People and take your beliefs back to the country from which they came. Don't tell a Muslim to go back to "their" country unless you are ready to go back to yours.
That's not what the call to end advertising for this show is about though. It's a call to be honest, and enough with the PC vapid superficiality.
Copts are getting killed by Muslims now. We don't have time for Obama to worry about fundraising from Muslims so that more can die.
Well said!
Home Depot is a better store anyways.
I agree Home Depot is better. They seem to have more knowledgeable employees to assist and more checkout stands open. When I shopped for fencing materials, they had better pricing than Lowe's.
I am not on Lowes side on this. They are discriminating clear and simple. As a devout Christian, I will NOT shop there now.
You will when their prices are less and you won't when they aren't. Just like everybody else.
Do you not read the Islamic circles! Are you unaware that they are trying to put sharia law in the American judicial system. It was voted against in Oklahoma and a NY judge blocked the bill to prevent sharia law from being blocked. The islamics are encouraging Islamic believers to reproduce and to spread across the globe to generate a population so they can over through governments and invoke Islam and sharia law all across the world. Do you not realize that you, devoted Christian will either be forced to obey sharia and convert to Islam or be murdered. You ignorant fools that cause the rest of us smart and unfooled people with your tree hugging be tollerant and sensitive hogwash without understanding the repercussion until your being slayed to pieces in the name of Islam. Get of your high horse and open your eyes or go to the middle east and tell them your a devoted Christian in support of Islam. They will murder you instantly!
Will you boycott businesses working with the new Egyptian government, since they are allowing the targeting of Coptic Christians?
See the difference in scale? Lowes removes advertising from a silly show about Muslims – outrage! Coptic Christians get killed by Muslims - silence.
That is what got this started. Where is Obama as Christians in Nigeria are getting killed by Muslims, Christians and animists in the Sudan are getting killed by Muslims, Christians in Egypt are getting killed by Muslims, and more? It's open season on Christians by Muslims, yet we are having this view enforced that Muslims are just super folks, and anyone who doesn't agree will be MADE to by liberals, celebrities, and elected Democrats.
See the hypocrisy? I won't have my belief system forced upon my by a Muslim or a Democrat. Help the Copts, or you won't be in office. Got it?
I will do ALL my home improvement shopping at Lowes from now on. Thank you Lowes!
I am sorry but the only thing I think of you I see Lowe's is NASCAR and we all know how bright those fans are! It is the same sterotype surrounding everyone in the US however Lowe's stepped in it big time! I say boycott and head to Home Depot! LOL
@Korrine Smith - Wow. Do you think you could be any less tolerant of others and a little more racist? The decision Lowe's made to pull their ads was at the demand of a large majority of their customers who spend BILLIONS and help to keep Lowe's employees employed. Apparently, NASCAR fans aren't anywhere near as ignorant as you are since you seem to have forgotten that Lowe's ORIGINALLY purchased ad space and air time on All American Muslim.
Go to Home Depot, but you'll be going to Lowes to find what you can't at Home Depot and you can pay more at Home Depot. But if you're redoing anything on your home or in the construction business, Lowes is where you go.
"was at the demand of a large majority of their customers" WOW, how can you justify a statement like that? Let me guess, you always try to win arguments by just "making up" facts to support your point of view.
I find it offensive that California Sen. Ted Lieu (D) is pig-sticking Lowe's and calling for a boycott of the company. He is a public official and needs to do his job as such. He has no right to "punish" Lowe's for make a business decision. By pulling their ads, Lowe's was answering the call of Americans who protested. There was nothing racist or discriminatory about the decision Lowe's made. Their customers asked them to stop doing something, so they stopped doing it. By not advertising, Lowe's isn't causing anyone at TLC to lose their jobs. But, by calling for a boycott, the senator may cause Lowe's employees to lose their jobs. Stay out of private business, Senator. Lowe's broke no laws, violated nothing, and still sells tools to Muslims across the country. Senator Lieu ~ you, sir, are a moron. If you want to be an activist, then get the hell out of public service.
I know, we're in such bad shape because these senators are blowing our money, now one of them is actually calling to bring an American business down? Anyone in Government publicly trying to tear down our economy further needs to be investigated.
I have many moderate Muslim friends but because CAIR is attacking Lowe's, that makes me want to support them. Screw the extremists at CAIR. YES, you know who you are.
These damn Florida Family Group and Focus on the Family groups are really starting to irritate me. They boycott ANYTHING that is cristian family focused. Mind your business! When are these organizations goingto realize that they only make up a small percentage of the US Population? Lowe's should be ashamed for giving in to this group.
Lowes was not bigoted when they made the decision to Advertise with them were they? They could of choose not to advertise with the show at all. The fact that they did show support. The fact that they are pulling it simply shows that they were not getting the return they expected on the investment, and moved advertising dollars somewhere else. I run a small business, and advertising is very hit or miss. If it works, great, if not, try something else. Sometimes what worked this year won't next year. Its always a shuffling game.
I think i will shop at Lowe's because they have the balls to do what they want for their business and not be pressured into politically correctness.
Lowes got pressured. You just happen to agree with why they were pressured.
You should probably re-read the above article. Lowes wanted to do the right thing and advertise during this show. They ONLY decided to remove the ad after MANY bigoted Christian-Americans exploded their complaint lines because of the ad. The only thing that this issue proves is that Lowes doesn't have a backbone to stand up for what they really believe. Instead they allowed hateful, bigoted Christians to dictate when they air their Ads.
PS...being politically correct isn't a bad thing. In the future, when people aren't as simple minded...history will show that people like you were bigoted, hateful, and UNAMERICAN!
Lowes did the right thing and all those who don't like it should leave this country....Have we all forgot 911...
Hitler said the same thing to the Jews. Then when they wouldn’t leave he just killed them all. It is always dangerous and a slippery slope when one small group of ignorant people can force action that is none of their business. If people don’t like the show, then don’t watch it. Now all you did is make people curious and I bet the ratings go up.
SInce over 18,000 murders have been committed in the name of Islam SINCE 9/11, we have a clear picture of how the modern day Nazi killers are. When will people admit that violent Islam is real, and violent Islam has declared war on the West, not vice versa? See the website religion of peace dot org for a complete list of the killings since 9/11 in the name of Islam all over the world. Who are the Nazis, again?
Muslims don't need to be protected from us. They have more freedom here in the US than they do at home. We have to be vigilant and honest about what Islam in the US means - what does the imposition of sharia law mean in the US for family law and women's rights? What does the limitation of freedom of speech mean when you can't publish something as benign as a cartoon in the United States?
Nazism is a close relative of a political-legal ideology that removes and degrades secular, universal human rights.
Buff, My ancestor came here on the Mayflower, in search of religious freedom. How dare you suggest that others should not experience the same freedom?!? I am offended, as an American. Deeply, deeply offended.
So if the Muslims are shown as too religious, that's a problem. Then when they are shown as normal humans (with their moral issues), as in this program, that's also a problem?? No way to appease the right wingers!!! Home Depot, here is my business.
My problem with the show is that it seemed to never bring up any of the obvious headlining news about problems in Islam in the US or abroad, in the home countries of origin of the participants.
It felt false, like a fictionalized version of the real Islam. While CNN reports beheadings, stonings, forced marriages of rapists, blowing up girls' schools, killing old women deemed as practicing "sorcery," or the killing of Christians, Buddhists, Siks, Hindus, and other Muslims of other sects by the Islam that has taken over much of the Islamic world, TLC included on mention of this, as though the madness of Islam is something imagined by cable TV news.
I for one won't let Islam get away with avoiding talking about its tough issues. Hold Muslims accountable to the truth and the reality of their imposed beliefs here and around the world.
Last time I looked, a private company can do what they want in regards to how and who they advertise with. Great that the idiotic Senator is threatening "legislative action"....do you elected morons have nothing better to do with our time and money? I'm sure there are more important things that require your attention instead of a perceived slight against an ethnic group. Simply put, this show is horrible and I would pull all advertising too.
So this Senator found a way to get attention and wielding his power to pressure Lowes to do something? I thought Lowes was a private, not government business, oh wait, maybe it's because elections are coming and donations are needed for campaigns.
This is the Democrat Party's idea of "democracy" - forced advertising for shows that help Democrats raise money from CAIR and other political Muslim groups.
Frankly that makes me queasy. Foreign money in US elections should be illegal. and a proper US President would be auditing these PACs that seek to undermine freedom of speech. Lowes can choose to advertise or not as it wishes for whatever reason. Any other compulsion to do otherwise is a new fascism. Why has the Left become so intolerant of diverse points of view?
Shame on Lowes for not having the balls to stand up to these Christian Nazis! WWJD? He would accept and love his brothers and sisters of ALL faiths! I won't shop there again until they apologize publicly to the Muslim community for their blatant mistake and reinstate these ads. And Home Depot isn't much better, with their right-wing pandering and discriminatory policies. Put your $$ where your conscience is! BOYCOTT LOWES.
Since you only shop at the dollar store, Lowe's isn't very worried about losing your business.
I'm glad i don't have to smell your BO when shopping at Lowes. thanks
Wow, RD! What an amazing intellect you have!
You do realize that Muslims are killing Christians in Egypt, which was one of the reasons this whole boycott got started? The Coptic Christians of Egypt are under attack, and are being driven out of Egypt by the new Muslim Brotherhood that Obama claims is the light and the hope of a democratic Egypt.
Meanwhile, the Brotherhood has a completely different storyline - they are ambivalent about secular democracy and religious tolerance at best. Where the group will fall probably depends on exterior forces like the economy. Many Coptic Christians are fleeing right now.
Who are the Nazis again?
@WordUpToo...WWJD??? I am sure He wouldn't get all over Lowes for "not having the balls"...that being said, people on here seem to be forgetting the point of WHY Lowes pulled the advertising to begin with. They yielded to pressure from a biased conservative religious group who threatened to boycott their business over a TV show that is supposed to promote diversity...way to go fellow Christians...I am proud to call you brothers in the faith...
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I've watched every episode of this show. But, after last night's episode I don't think I'll watch anymore. I'm disgusted that the poor white guy who converted to Islam to marry his Muslim girlfriend had to get rid of his dog because she claimed she had allergies but it was clear that she felt the dog was against Muslim law. This poor guy has no backbone whatsoever and he's pushed around by his overbearing wife. It's his own fault, but it made me so angry. And I completely disapprove of making 8 year old girls wear the hijab. It's just over the top and cult like. If anything, this series is pushing me MORE away from Muslims.
And how do you feel about catholics making 8 year olds receive their first Communion? Making kids eat the "body" and drink the "blood" of Christ seems pretty cult like to me.
I can't believe that guy got rid of his dog. Poor dog. Here's one more example of people trying to live by a code from the 7th Century. I'm sure at that time dogs were sometimes unclean, but today we have veterinary care, and dogs do not carry disease or fleas.
I'm surprised the show put this up, because it seemed to really avoid some of the more troubling aspects of sharia law, even as practiced by "modern" Muslims in the US, who seem to never had too much of a critical word to say about it, but for a handful of brave critics.
I say Boycott Sen. Ted Lieu & shop LOWES–Amen
Sen. Ted Lieu is an embarassment to the Democratic party and to all Americans.
Someone needs to investigate this guy, he's calling to cause a boycott in a major American business and I'm sure all Lowes employees and their families love how this could harm them. This would effect not only them, but just about every small contracting business and people who can't sell their homes, but fixing them up. What kind of politician is this?
Yea Lowes, Freedom from idealogy is a worthy cause. I applaude your actions to combat terroism. I shop at Lowes because of the low prices not any political or cult cause. Thumbs up,you only owe results to employees and stock holders.
Not advertising on a reality tv show has nothing to do with combating terrorism because the reality tv show has nothing to do terrorism. The real terrorists in this scenario are those religious extremists in Florida who want to dictate where a corporation should and should not advertise.
You nailed it, Katie.
Katie and DAT, read the second half of the Koran. Then get back to us. It's going to be a rude awakening for you, though, as a fair warning.
Katie & Dat, you do not have a clue what is Real. A real reality show would need no advertisement, these show's are fake forms of entertainment for the weak and not so bright. Anything the Muslim idealogy does it terorism. Grow up and become a true American, serve you country and put you life on the line for freedom, not some cult.
PhillyRN: the inflammatory pamphlet you received for your "love gift" to the 700 Club or John Hagee does not make you an expert on Islam. The Koran, like the Bible, can sometimes be contradictory (and draconian by our standards) but it absolutely forbids forcible conversion and the killing of innocents. Any religion can be perverted by criminals to justify actions that would otherwise be unacceptable.
The company has the right to do what they want. If they choose not to advertise, so be it. People complain about everything...
people are complaining about the conservative bigots who caused Lowe's to make this decision
Jagermeister I think they're complaining more that a senator is trying to cause an American company to go bankrupt, thousands of Lowes employees to be laid off by major boycotts and using his authority to do it. That's the main issue to me, what's the reason behind it?
Here is a congressional hearing on the Whitewashing of ISLAM. Listen to it and see that this show is propaganda to fool Americans and to get us to lower our guard so this Evil Cult can grow and eventually become strong enough to take us by force.
youtube.com/watch?v=AC5MCamauos&feature=relmfu
New Lowe in American stupidity.
Touche.
The TLC program is a silly portrayal of how many on the Left wish Islam to be. The reality is that Islam is just not there yet. These are not real Muslims according to the clerics of Egypt, Iran, Saudi Arabia, or Pakistan. These people are not practicing Islam as written in the Koran. I urge people to get a Koran and read it. Read the 2nd half of it.
Make up your own mind. Can a book that demands that nonbelievers be killed if they don't covert, that calls Jews "apes and pigs," that demands that Islam be the one true religion and none other, and that law only be a 7th century legal system really comprise a true religion? This is the reality today in Indonesia, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, Egypt, Pakistan, Afghanistan, and other Muslim ruled Islamic nations. It's fine to say there are things in the Bible as well, yet we do not call this our law, and carry it out today. The West had Martin Luther, the Enlightenment, even Jesus who changed the law.
A woman was just executed in Saudi Arabia for "sorcery." Sorcery is one of the forbidden things in Islamic law, or sharia. If you were to do chiropractic or yoga, or to use herbs or meditation for healing or health, that could conceivably get you killed in an Islamic nation for practicing something haram, or forbidden, as sorcery. You would only have to be accused by someone who didn't like you taking away business from the halal, or permitted, businesses. Islam permits a something like the Salem Witch Trials.
I don't think people know a thing about Islam or any Islamic nation, but if you took the time to read the Koran, live in these places, or read the news about these countries, you'd find that there is a push now not to modernize Islam, but to take it further backwards, all the way to the beginning, and to live strictly according to those laws from the time of the 7th century, including use of slavery, enforced beliefs, no democracy, no human rights, girl child marriages of adult men, female genital mutilation, legal rape, legal abuse of spouses, and a host of other bizarre and nondemocratic laws. Many such provisions are already legal and followed. In Afghanistan, a women was compelled to marry her rapist to be let out of jail for reporting the rape. Was this in a TLC episode? No?
If you can't put two and two together, then the TLC program is fine. If you know something about Islam, then the TLC program is a fictionalized account of an Islam that should exist but doesn't.
Philly, that's like saying Christians condone rape and murder, because of certain passages in the Bible. Even genocide. Slavery. Getting a wife by raping a virgin. "If a man is caught in the act of raping a young woman who is not engaged, he must pay fifty pieces of silver to her father. Then he must marry the young woman because he violated her, and he will never be allowed to divorce her." Deut. 22:28-29. "If within the city a man comes upon a maiden who is betrothed, and has relations with her, you shall bring them both out of the gate of the city and there stone them to death: the girl because she did not cry out for help though she was in the city, and the man because he violated his neighbors wife." – Deut. 22:23-24... Need more? These old religions all have their nastiness. It's up to modern people to interpret it for themselves, which many Muslims do. Just like Christians. Do you see "good Christians" going around and killing witches, or beating children with sticks? No? Me, neither. As humans, we are capable of discernment, Christian and Muslim alike.
OCCUPY LOWES! Eh, whatever.
I still have a bad taste in my mouth about 9/11 , nuff said, and I am a pretty liberal character in general.
Let us not forget the Oklahoma City bombings – perpetrated by an American Christian. Over 20 people dead – many of them innocent children, over 800 people injured.
Yeah, that leaves a bad taste in my mouth about American Christians.
Katie – The OKC bombing was purely political and not religious. Why don't go now and join the Islam cult where it comes from (in the middle east) and see how you like not being able to vote, drive a car, show your face, speak or even defend yourself after being raped. You deserve all that for your incredible ignorance.
Thayer, I just spent the weekend studying up on how the US military handles rapes of servicemen and women in its ranks. You don't want to be raped ANYWHERE but if you're raped in an Islamic nation you have a better chance of justice than in the US military. 92% of the victims who report rape in the US military are discharged. That's right. The victims get kicked out. The rapists do not. Do some research before you spew opinion. Rape sucks everywhere, in the US just as much (or more) than in other places.
This is to Jane - but did the rape victims have to marry their attacker to get out of jail? Face it – you have a chance of having a rape committed in the US military prosecuted, but it will be a tough road.
In a fully Islamic, Sharia nation, you are not raped, because as many Muslim clerics have stated, rape really does not exist. There are only virtuous women, and those who are infidels. You need five witnesses to prove your rape, who must be male, or you will be charged with adultery for reporting it.
Come on people. Why are you defending this horrendous legal system as a religion? It is not a religion in the sense that it is entered into freely, where members have the protection of their universal, secular human rights. No such system can be a religion. It's intolerant to tolerate it.
Yeah, those are some scary looking would be terrorists in the making in that photograph, especially that littlest girl on the left.....whatever, people can be so racist it amazes me. I like home depot better anyway!
Criticizing a religion does not make you a racist. Muslims are many different races. What people are criticizing is the two-faced quality of many Muslims who demand every concession no matter how small on religion, yet defend their own treatment of those of OTHER faiths.
Coptic Christians in Egypt now are being killed. These are the world's most ancient and original Christians, from the time of the Apostles. These Christians have a right to live in Egypt without persecution, but the Islamic political groups in Egypt now are seeking to wipe Coptic Christians out.
I could list dozens of examples of extreme religious intolerance to the point of death today, in modern Muslim nations, some who call the US their ally. We simply can't whitewash this truth.
Tolerance of bigotry makes that person who claims tolerance a bigot. By ignoring this violence by Muslims you are defending and protecting it. That is wrong.
Islam is a religion not a race you moron. It is just so happens to be about the most evil cult in the history of mankind started by and murderous pedophile. None of us have to be tolerant of evil btw.
PhillyRN: Thanks for being a voice of reason and facts. Of course, many will choose to ignore or shout over you, using the ever-popular "r" word.
Lowes has the absolute right to make it's corporate decision. It also will now deal with the consequences. This odd decision will cause them to lose a great deal of business. I have watched the show and it focuses on the families of: a police officer, federal agent, and a high school football coach who are all US citizens. They only thing in common is their religion. Can you imagine a business pulling its ads because the subjects were Christians or Jews?
And what is so special about these people doing those professions...nothing. I would venture to say there will be little backlash, the premise of the show is bigoted as well.
Lisa, I completely agree with you..good post
These families are and will always be loved and welcomed by all Americans.
Focuses on the families huh? Well this Islamic scholar has studied Muslims and their beliefs. Listen to what he has to say about it in this congressional hearing on ISLAM! Are you an American? Doesn't sound like it.
youtube.com/watch?v=AC5MCamauos&feature=relmfu
Michelle – The point is that there is nothing special about them with the exception that they are muslim. Since so many people think that being muslim = that they are terrorists, I applaud this show to bring average muslims citizens to light and how really – besides their religion – they are no different than you or I.
Good post Lisa. I support your point.
People oppose the show because it's such a fictionalized portrayal of Islam in the world as it is practiced by Muslims now.
I'm certain this show will not include a mention of the honor killings that have already occurred in the name of Islam in Dearborn or elsewhere, or the show participants' reaction. Nor will it mention that an elderly woman in modern Saudi Arabia was pronounced under Islamic law to be a witch and murdered this week. Nor will it cover that women can't drive in Saudi Arabia or vote. The new Salafists in Egypt who just won in the election are calling for similar restrictions on women driving, and on secular democracy, which is called incompatible with Islam because Islam is a whole and perfect legal system unto itself.
While this may not be how these people feel, but the standards of these nations, these people in the TLC show are not Muslims. They are apostates. This is not my opinion. This is the reality of Islam in much of the Islamic world today.
Sharia law where it is the rule of law presides over governments that are some of the greatest violators of basic human rights, and Muslims the world over, including in the US, are demanding the expansion of Sharia law. This is not my opinion. This is daily covered in the news.
From female genital mutilation (were these ladies subjected to it in their home countries? Do they believe in it?), to honor killings, to child bride marriages to adult men, legal in Saudi Arabia, to the legal status of abuse and rape of women, these are topics never touched on the TLC program, as though someone imagined these realities for millions of Muslims.
What I don't care for is such a fictionalized account of real Islam as it is practiced now by millions of people who swear they live the true faith.
Islam declared war on the West, not vice-versa. It is kind but blind to pretend otherwise. No one wishes to deprives Muslims of their rights in the US, but to assure them of their rights in their own nations of origin, even if they don't want them.
PhillyRN: So a show about families in Dearborn, MI doesn't cover the news from other countries? So what? Why would it?
Lisa, everyone is afraid to buck the Muslims because if you say anything against them or their religion you are a racist, but you can condemn Christians or Jews any time, any where and get cudos. You know I'm right. There are more Christian bashers than muslim bashers in the media and you and everyone else knows it. Just look at all the jokes about Christians or Christ but how many jokes about that child rapist Mohammed do you see?
Exactly. The point of the show is to take a first step (nobody said it was a perfect portrayal) into letting the non-Muslim public learn about our fellow Muslim Americans. I've worked and lived amongst many of them and none of them are extremist or cater to any extremist ideology, they love this country as much as the rest of us. I don't think I deserve to be called a "comunist" or be told I need to go live in the Middle East just because I speak the truth of the mayority of Muslim-Americans who live and have been living here for ever and are the same like the rest of us who belong to other faiths.
To: Jacy Tx, you are either naieve or a Muslim, yourself. I have many moderate and liberal Muslim friends. Only the Liberal ones like this country and apprciate it. The moderate ones don't and you all know how the radicals feel.
No one is saying these are not adorable families. What the original complaint stems from is that the whole show is so devoid of a single headline about real Islam in practice by Muslims in the world today, so the show is a highly sanitized version of an Islam which appears not to exist. This is not my opinion of Islam. These are the headlines on CNN. Muslims kill fill in the blank.
These folks are not "good" Muslims by most Islamic standards in the world. A Muslim group even issued a statement as such. This is to the credit of these families.
While the suffering of millions occurs at the hand of Islamic extremists in acts that are not rare, we have a duty to make sure that we are not glossing over it, much as the media did during the Holocaust. Why did no journalist ever think to ask "where ARE all those trains going?"
Coptic Christians are getting killed in Egypt by Muslims. Nigerian Christians are being attacked by Muslims. Americans are getting killed by Muslims, such as Nidal Hassan. Then there are all of the other religions whose members are being attacked and killed today, now, by Muslims, from Hindus, to Buddhists, to Siks, to Animists, to Ba'hai, to Sufi Muslims, and other Muslims, who go after each other. The Shia kill the Sunni Muslims. The Sunni Muslims kill the Shia.
After a while, you want the killing to stop. For the killing to stop, we have to face it. That means we don't need a kind of Brady Bunch of Muslims. We need honesty and integrity. We need to ask tough questions, and get answers, and show that on TV.
Why are Muslims doing so much killing, and why is this so taboo to face?
Sick of Cair... I'm a Christian... do you make a habit out of insulting people you don't know?? I'm speaking of experience, which may be different than yours. Do not disrespect me, as I didn't disrespect you. I'm actually a public servant who works for law enforcement and protect your sorry ass from crime.
They already do that! People have been doing that for years.
So now Muslim sympathizers think they can force companies to advertise and support propaganda? How wonderfully un-American. Lowe's has EVERY RIGHT to advertise wherever they wish.
"Can you imagine a business pulling its ads because the subjects were Christians or Jews?" Ha ha, already happened years ago, honey, do some research and you'll see many cases. LOL
No one should have the power to force a business to advertise or not to advertise. Lowes signed a contract to advertise for this particular show and reneged because a small group of extremists threatened them. It's those extremists who are deciding where Lowes should advertise.
Your logic works both ways.
I applaud Lowe's for standing up for their right to advertise when and where they like. I will continue to shop at Lowe's as I always have. The rest of you go to HD – more room for us at Lowe's.
Sure, Lowes has every right to advertised where ever they wish, just like I have every right to boycott them if I don't like their business practices.
Yes, they have every right to advertise. They chose to advertise on the show. THEN they buckled under pressure from Christian extremists to pull their ad. This is not making a choice. This is cowardice. If they had chosen, for the start, not to advertise on the show that would be one thing. They thought it was a good idea. Now they join the paranoics and bigots.
When all these people up in arms over this own Lowes then they can DICTATE where they choose to advertise. Until then, I dont think the First Amendment has been repealed unless I missed it in the news?
We ALL have the right to free speech. You do, I do, Lowe's does. That does NOT mean we can't express our opinion about their cowardice to cave in to threats (also free speech) made by the radical extremist Christians. If Lowes feels like they simply can't advertise for an American reality television show, that is up to them. If radical extremists feel like they have to condemn any business for their advertising on shows the extremists don't like, that is up to them. If normal Americans feel they don't have to shop at Lowes to express their opinion of the reneging of a contract, that is up to us. We ALL have the right to free speech and we are ALL using it.
Lowes is a corporation owned by many people, some of them are probably muslim.
@Jennifer Blake – Of course they have that right. And all of us who consider their move to be bigoted and ignorant have the freedom to boycott Lowe's and bring more business to Home Depot.
This is Lowe's business – where they want to advertise. I certainly wouldn't want any one dictating to me to use my advertising budget in a way I don't want to. THAT is what this country was built on: freedom and liberty.
Yeah Dane, and all of us who believe there are way too many of you out there accusing people and companies of being biggoted and ignorant because they just expressed their freedom of choice think that you are childish, racist and self-serving. Every time you don't get what you want you start accusing others- time to look at your racist self. When it's all about race to you, you are the racist.
Whoop-tee-doo. Big whoop. Go live in Afghanistan then.
Good luck with Home Depot, I can never find what I'm looking for at that crappy store. I always end up across the street at Lowes. It's Lowe's advertising money and they can spend it however they choose.
Chris Honry: What basis do you have for accusing anyone of racism? This conversation, no matter which side you're on has nothing to do with race and as far as I can see you're the only one bringing it up.
When was the last time a Christian flew a plane into a building. When was the last time a Christian shot at our American solders. I watched the show for a bit but it was nothing I was interested in. Who CARES what you do. I think reality TV is horrible anyway. But then that is why we will always have Home Depot and Lowes.
Why not have "An all American Catholic" show? How about "All American Baptist"? How about All American Jewish Family show. The entire genre is idiotic. Racism exists throughout the world, so don't get excited.
Shut up. And yes, it's my right to tell you to do so.
"When was the last time a Christian flew a plane into a building."
2010
" When was the last time a Christian shot at our American solders."
2011
Yeah home depot is the country's biggest employer of the LGBT "community" I'd rather support a muslim than a lgbt freak employee of HD..PS ...if you go to HD wear a mask and protective gloves...
Lowe has a right to sponsor or adverise where they want.
They should not have to apologize for their actions – it is not a free country?
Exactly...and I would never boycott them for it.
Of course Lowe's has the right to advertise where they like. And I have the right to shop at the Home Depot across the street.
you are so right, Way to go lowes
Yea... but what free speech are you referring to, the free speech they used to put ads on the show, or the free speech to yank them after a few groups spoke out against the ads. How come the groups didn't seem to like the idea of Lowe's using free speech?
Exactly Jennifer and it's disgusting a senator from another state is sticking his nose in it. But there's always a political reason they would speak out. I hope they keep tabs on every politician's donations to see who might be whispering in the ear and bank accounts. KWIM
Lowes does have the right to advertise where-ever they want, and in this case, they first chose to advertise during this particular show and cowardly changed their minds because some radical extremists threatened them. While I defend both Lowes' and the extremists' right to free speech, I disagree with both their decisions. If people don't want to watch the show – it's a free country. They can turn the channel or better yet turn off the tv. If people don't want to shop at Lowes, there a PLENTY of other hardware stores, maybe even a nice local one run by local people with knowledge of their merchandise.
I will continue shopping at lowes and let the communist shop elsewhere.
The US is a free country... love it or leave it.
"contend with legislative action "?!! Since when do legislators think they can tell a company where to spend their advertising dollars? If you don't like Lowe's choices, shop somewhere else; if you don't like the show, turn the channel. Legislators have way bigger problems they should be spending time on.
That's OK Jimd, I'm headed there to buy something tonight.
I recently read an article from a NYC Muslim who hates this show. He said it no where near represents the community. It's a very small slice of the many faces of this religion. And so it probably is misleading in it's premiss to enlighten us as to how nice they are.
Seems like Lowe's is going to alienate one group or another no matter what they do. So if I were the Lowe's CEO I'd do whatever alienates the least number of Lowes customers.
You are absolutely correct about that Jennifer. And I will definitely be exercising my right not to spend my money with a bunch of weak kneed bigots.
Shuffler Exactly, it's where all the businesses go for home building supplies, home improvement and home owners go. The best prices, everything you need and for the life of me I can't understand why a public figure would try to stop small businesses from making a living. Especially when so many businesses are failing, so many people are jobless, he's trying to cause further job losses to Lowes employees by calling for a boycott. I hope this senator isn't speaking for the rest of Congress, because that's scary as anything.
Wow, Florida Family Association, I thought American was founded on freedom of religion and was proud to be a melting pot of nationalities. Perhaps only the ones your family tree is part of?
I always liked Lowes over Home Depot, guess that changes now!
"This can't happen in America, [Lowe's] needs to fix this immediately...There are American principles at stake here," Simmons told Entertainment Weekly. "This country is built on religious freedom. This is the kind of hate that tears the country apart."
You are correct American PRINCIPLES are at stake... but the first statement you make shows that you really don't care about these PRINCIPLES. LOWES doesn't NEED to fix anything and this CAN happen in America thanks to other PRINCIPLES besides freedom of religion....LIKE FREEDOM OF SPEECH
ALSO stop calling it racism....Islam is a religion not a race... this has nothing to do with race, and everything to do with the fact that Islam, even in its least radical form is oppressive in SO many ways. It may be the norm in the middle east, but Islam would take away FAR more freedoms of Americans than what Lowes has chosen to do. When Islamic countries start treating their people, especially their women better, then I will start accepting it as a worthwhile religion for the U.S. Until then I cannot, personally, see any reason to watch or support a show that follows this culture.Luckily it is America and THEY DO HAVE THE RIGHT TO AIR THE SHOW...The same can't be said for anything other than Islam in any middle eastern country...
Absolutely.. and I'm glad they put out there who they are trying to please (a christian group). However, I'm deeply saddened by the fact that, yet again, another "Christian" group of people are giving the rest of Christ followers a bad name by completely missing the point and being hateful. It is a shame. Although Lowe's has the right to do whatever, I think they set a terrible example. I'm not shoping there anymore..
You know what, ill shop at Lowes,Home Depot,Ace even the local mom and pop shops. Whoever has the best price and saves me money on the bottom line.
I use to like Lowes. Home Depot it is from now on.
As I posted below, businesses involved in what is called interstate commerce, cannot discriminate via otherwise protected speech (which includes actions) without the possibility of being sued. That's why lunch counters can no longer refuse to serve black people. The Supreme Court interpreted the first amendment in this way. Refusing to place ads in a slot merely because it portrays Muslims, is discrimination. They can be sued for it.
Hey Frank – Muslim isn't a murderous cult. It's a religion. It's like saying everyone that is Christian is in a cult because a few nutjobs decide to bomb a clinic. That sword cuts both ways, be careful how you swing it.
I agree absolutely. They have a right to do whatever they want with their advertising money. And they must live with the consequences. That is, people of tolerance will recognize this as a reaction to their racist base. People of tolerance will be tempted to boycott their business. This is very negative publicity...in my opinion.
Lowes simply caved into right-winged haters and agents of intolerance ... personally, I don't have a problem tolerating the morons who follow Islam, Christianity or any other looning religion.
Absolutely, correct. I applaud Loews degree of individuality. I don't agree with the programming choice as I do not agree with applying a false Facade to anything. I believe that there are good Muslim Americans and I believe that there ar Muslims in America who would willingly do us harm. Propoganda programming is not going offer anything positive to this Countries internal Security.
Time to stop shopping at Lowes. And shuffler, why do you hate America so much. YOU leave the country.
I completely agree with you Jennifer!
I'll not shop at Lowe's anymore. I would rather shop at a retailer who doesn't cave in to ignorance and bigotry.
Of course they have the right - it's their money... no one is disputing that I think (and if they are, shame on them).
However, for me personally, this demonstrates the ignorance of Lowe's and the Florida Family Association, and I am more than happy to begin shopping at Home Depot until they demonstrate tolerance.
On a separate note, it's very ironic the FFA criticizes the muslim agenda when they themselves are adamant proponents of the Christian agenda... gotta love the hypocrisy
Are we forgetting which religion has been the most violent in the past 2000 years?
Yes, Lowes has the right to advertise where they wish, but when they cater to bigots – they perpetuate bigotry... like so many fundamentalist Christians do. BTW: I'm a recovering white, male Catholic i.e. I look quite similar to the stereotypical Christian zealot. Fanatics from any religion are mentally ill and disease our planet.
Sen. Ted Lieu is dead wrong. The Aryan Nation does not follow the Christian doctrine, and nothing they do is taught in the Christian doctrine. In fact, they do what they do in spite of what the Bible teaches, not because of it.
Yes, Jennifer. It is a FREE COUNTRY. A FREE COUNTRY FOUNDED BY IMMIGRANTS AND PEOPLE FLEEING RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION. But apparently YOU and the Florida Family Association – whatever the hell freak bible banging extremist group that is – have forgotten this fact. I guess a Muslim MOM, DAD, CHILDREN and various pets DON'T EQUATE TO FAMILY? Want to gay bash while you're at it? What a pathetic excuse for a decent human being you must be.
Lowes does have freedom of speech. They chose to place an ad during that airtime to show that they were willing to support every American...not just the ones who pray to jesus. They chose to remove the Ad only after they received significant complaints that the Ad should be removed to make a bunch of bigoted christians happy. Those of you who support Lowes Ad removal are part of the freaking problem in the US. Instead of supporting a company attempting to do the right thing...you support them only when they discriminate. They should be called out on this...not through legal processes but through the boycott process. The so called Christians out there that are supporting the discrimination of Muslims need to realize that doing so completely counters what your own New Testament states you should be doing...which is to love you neighbors. I really hope that a Hell does exist so that the hypocritical Christians out there will have a place to stay when they are turned away from the same God they claim to worship.
I dont really care who advertises for who or why, To me what is scary is the wrath that is being layed down upon Loews because they changed there mind to Advertise during this program. Just look at the threats that have been layed down on them. By the Way Arian Nation is not a christian organization it is group dedicated to white power.
@ Anna 3:11 pm:
So you're saying that an advertiser that pulls ads from a show because the host or subjects says or does something they don't like is wrong? I'm guessing that this didn't apply to when dozens of advertisers dropped Glenn Beck like a hot potato because of what he called the president, right? You guys love to tout fairness, but it ONLY applies to one side and the opinions you agree with.
@the voice of reason - i'm really not sure which religion you are referring... most religions have had steady patterns of violence across the years....
The leftists, left wing, etc. are the people that have American values. The Lowe's loving anti-muslim goons should love America or leave it. To love the left wing IS to love America. WW2 was fought to protect us all from Fascism, and now the beer drinking BBQ'ing sports-loving goon right wing is trying to bring back Fascism.
I'll be doing all my christmas shopping at lowes and ramadan shopping at home depot
I agree. That is our right as Americans. I too believe this is just propaganda. Lowes has a right to advertise with any show they wish. It is their money. Do forget our rights people. This is America. People come to America to get away from their country. They are welcome to do as we do or go home. They have that right!
There is an interesting bit of controversy here. We have a fight between Freedom of Religion(and by proxy, Freedom of Speech) versus a Religion which inherently represses freedom of speech in the majority of it's followers. Now, stop before you flame me here: I'm not one of those bigoted Anti Muslim christians or anything like that. This is just from a simple anthropological observation of the culture as a hole. I DO violate one of the primary directives of anthropology by making this observation, but the observation is important to analyze the social issues here.
This religion puts women in a little box and tells them they can't come out. and Many are simply happy with it, having known nothing else, or are insecure enough to not know there is better out there for them. I saw a poster at my local university saying that the wearing of a full shawl to conceal their face is a proud right and choice of female members of the muslim faith and that it's not forced upon them: But really do you have a choice if you are born into the religion and/or fully indoctrinated by one means or the other?
I mean come on, this is the religion where a father KILLED his daughter because she was enjoying all the freedoms a modern American teenager has. Right here, in the Heart of the USA.
I feel lowes has a right to do what they want with their advertisement, but they had approved of the ad then pulled because of pressure from some christian group. Lowes should had said they stand for all americans in this country regardless of their religious beliefs and we stand by our ad on this show.
I personally will not shop with them anymore unless they reverse their decision.
I am a home builder. I knew about there sponsorship and I took Lowe's off of my supplier list! Maybe now I'll put them back on. I'm sick of Islam being forced upon the American people but if you even mention Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism or Hindi you're attacked by all of the liberals and minority groups who are completely ignorant of world religions, politics and domestic and foreign policy. Our struggle with Islam is thousands of years old and it is their belief that they are supposed to kill ALL non-Muslims for being infidels.
Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from criticism. Lowe's has the right to advertise where and when they wish. I have the right to criticize them and stop shopping there. It's a two-way street!
John:
It's clear that you are confused on the definition of what a Liberal is. What you described, INCLUDING the part about being ignorant to world politics and cultures, pretty much describes CONSERVATIVE.
For instance, did you know there are THREE cultures of people in Iraq who all Hate each other? And that for the Iraq war all we did is dispose of one Genocidal Dictator and put another in his place?
Lowe's has a right to deal with the responses to their ad, too.
I'd be less likely to shop at Lowes if they were to capitulate and run the ads. How can those who say pulling the ads is unamerica justify taking away Lowes right of free speech?
Simple Simmons needs to shut his trap. From where does he assume the right to tell a company where and how to spend their advertising dollars? In his world I guess he and his artist and GLBT friends should decide what causes, businesses, enterprises must be supported. Maybe Lowes can just tell it wont be around very long due to its ignorant premise and low ratings – do the liberals that condemn Lowes even watch?
GOOD FOR LOWE'S and SHAME ON TLC!!! TLC has all the crap shows. Don't push these people on me/public and try to justify their lifestyle/religion. There is no way I would ever trust any Muslim after 9/11.
First of all, freedom of speech and expression 'rights' do NOT extend to the private sector. Secondly, a private company may spend its advertising dollars anywhere it sees fit. I find it hilarious that these left-wing nutcases will demand a company remove advertising dollars from any show that disagrees with THEIR worldview but then turn around and seem to want to force a company to advertise on another show. Pure, unadulterated hypocrisy. Third (and finally), why the heck is it that the only religion that we have to *AHEM* 'tolerate' in this country is ISLAM?!?! I don't see these self-righteous moonbats lining up to endorse CHRISTMAS or allow any sort of religious symbolism to be displayed anywhere that they might actually have to see it. A star of David? Nah, that's offensive. A cross or a Christmas tree? HECK NO!! But Alllah-Forbid that Lowe's should want to pull their advertising from a show that has to deal with Islam. Where are we going and why are we in this handbasket?
The Internet just got Dumber. So many of you Right Wingers are so full of Hate. You Hate anybody who does not walk, talk, smell, look,act or oink like you do. You guys are pigs. In Norway a *Christian Crusader* murdered 89 innocent people because of Islamophobia. All you guys are doing is encouraging these Christian Crusaders to continue killing – there ate 1.5 Billion Muslims in the World – are you going to have a Billion Muslim Holocaust ??
"They should not have to apologize for their actions – it is not a free country?"
No one should have to apologize for anything they do then. All they have to do is say its a free country. Your analytical skills are very poor. BTW, since its a free country, we get to criticize them.
Lowe's certainly has the right to advertise with whom they want. The fact that they initially advertised with this program suggest that they did not have an issue. For them to pull their ads based on some conceived threat by a group who is promoting their own agenda is wrong. As a business it is their decision to make. As a American consumer it is my decision to not do business with them.
Lowe"s doesn't have to apologize and I don't have to shop there. They have a choice and so do I.
Thank you Jennifer for that comment! I agree wholeheartedly. What is wrong with this country when we have to defend every little thing we do or say.
Muslims wont even boycott, Lowes now is carrying DIY IED home kits...a big seller
The morons who defend Lowe's right to advertise where they want miss the point....probably on purpose. Of course, they can advertise where they want...duh. But that's not what happened. They DID advertise where they wanted to and were then bullied/coerced into withdrawing that advertising by a right-wing-nut group. When we have to worry that we cannot do what we want or believe in because some obscure group will try to bully us, then there is no hope for this country.
THE SHOW SUCKS. THATS REASON ENOUGH TO PULL THE ADVERTISING.