Kanye West cites Nietzsche in court case
November 25th, 2011
03:14 PM ET

Kanye West cites Nietzsche in court case

According to the Hollywood Reporter, Kanye West is using the words of 19th century philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche to make his case in court.

The 7th Circuit Court of Appeals is considering whether to uphold the dismissal of a 2010 claim that the rapper stole the song “Stronger" from another artist.

Plaintiff Vincent Peters, in addition to claiming similarity in the use of "Kate Moss" and the title "Stronger," zeroes in on alleged similarities in the chorus. Both sides acknowledge the lyrics are based on Nietzsche's phrase, "That which does not kill us makes us stronger."

But earlier this year, a federal judge dismissed Peters’ claim, finding there wasn’t enough similarity between the two tunes. (The title, Moss reference and Nietzsche maxim are unprotectable, said the judge.)

Peters appealed, which is how West wound up defending himself in court again.

The rapper’s lawyer submitted a brief to the courts on November 18, arguing at one point that "the alleged similarities (which also contain many differences) all derive from a century-old maxim written by someone else – a maxim that has been used in many songs before Plaintiff’s (and Defendants’) song."

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  1. mychaeltodd

    The people who leave these racist remarks on CNN needed to be put on blast, their should be a law in place to expose these people, that would be a great reality show.-Min.Mychaeltodd

    November 28, 2011 at 1:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • Truth

      I'll happily go on national television just to let ni&&ers know how much I despise the way they have ruined our country.

      November 28, 2011 at 2:40 pm | Report abuse |
    • @ Truth

      You are so obsolete and you are a waste of oxygen and matter.

      November 28, 2011 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  2. Bart Lawrence

    Kanye quoting Friedrich Nietzsche is like Martin Luther King quoting J. Edgar Hoover. I didn't realize the Ebonics University taught Nietzsche. As for his unqualified success with certain audiences, let say, I'm not a customer, just as I am no longer a customer of the NBA. You need to learn something from Bill Cosby Con-yeah! Bill does have a Ph.D. What do you you have other than an angry mouth?

    November 28, 2011 at 6:44 am | Report abuse |
  3. Daniel

    I still think he is just a gigantic ass, and nothing more.

    November 28, 2011 at 3:26 am | Report abuse |
  4. cartman


    November 27, 2011 at 10:33 pm | Report abuse |
  5. fundie faster

    The joker said,'That which does not kill us,,makes us stranger' ,,.

    November 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Dontbow

    kanye your an idiot and have 0 talent. rap on that one.

    November 27, 2011 at 3:12 pm | Report abuse |
  7. jb2817

    Hold on hold on I jus wan say thay kanye is one of tha best philosophisers of all time

    November 27, 2011 at 9:09 am | Report abuse |
  8. Josh

    @Truth, you need to learn some manners young man. Where is all this hate coming from?

    November 26, 2011 at 8:39 pm | Report abuse |
  9. Odin

    I know of Nietzsche, who is this West person?

    November 26, 2011 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  10. OK

    Why is Peters suing on behalf of Kate Moss and Ray Nitschke? I know Ray Nitschke and he said he doesn't know why Vincent Peters is filing suit on his behalf. He said that he will file a civil suit against Vincent Peters.

    November 26, 2011 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  11. Sandman

    we all can agree that Kanye is worthless but wasn't Stronger based off of the Daft Punk song? Pretty sure he didnt steal that...since DP was in the music video

    November 25, 2011 at 11:32 pm | Report abuse |
    • jool

      No u are worthless!! What Kanye does in one day is bigger than ur whole life
      Kanye 2012

      November 25, 2011 at 11:40 pm | Report abuse |
  12. Pessimist

    Truth is gay n lives in tx n loves the gay cowboys

    November 25, 2011 at 10:01 pm | Report abuse |
  13. dave

    Fuqe all of u Kanye haters. All of his 6 albums went platinum! He have 14 Grammys. He is rich as hell.
    Just like he said keep hating u can only make him hotter

    November 25, 2011 at 8:49 pm | Report abuse |
    • commander

      you're counting watch the throne in there? that was weak

      November 26, 2011 at 7:56 am | Report abuse |
    • billyripp

      you forgot creative!

      November 26, 2011 at 9:12 am | Report abuse |
    • Ruth

      Kayne is a musical genius, he is truly talented, you don't stay on top this long if you aren't talented. He is not fake and tends to say what he thinks and he does it when he is drunk which is worse. He made the mistake of picking on a little white girl but his talented can't be denied. I would rather have a person say what he thinks that one who says what he thinks people want to hear.

      November 26, 2011 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
    • dave

      @rapid.. I wish I was black!! I'm Mexican & proud !!
      I heard yezzy was racist
      He only like green faces

      November 26, 2011 at 6:41 pm | Report abuse |
    • josh

      If your going to defend Kanye your case would be "stronger" if you could manage to use proper grammer.

      November 27, 2011 at 9:07 pm | Report abuse |
    • Cynical Person

      A truely talented person wouldn't need to remake/remix another much more talented artist's work as a promotional piece to get his music out there. First he used Ray Williams and then Daft Punk.

      November 28, 2011 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
    • Mandy

      All he does is remix/rip-off other artists' music. Don't even cite the "He's so talented because he sold a lot of records" crap. Jersey Shore is watched by a lot of people, that doesnt mean they are talented actors; it just proves we have a lot of idiots in society supporting these charlatans.

      November 28, 2011 at 1:01 pm | Report abuse |
  14. 50ct=fo bits

    No! this is the marquee blog..you and I are below Bieber,you want news..READ IT !

    November 25, 2011 at 8:38 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Smedley

    Kanye has to go to court to stay relevant...zzzzzzz.

    November 25, 2011 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  16. taylor

    Kanye... yawn.

    November 25, 2011 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
    • HI

      Another pretentious rapper tries to sound smart so that we will forget that he couldn't finish college.

      November 28, 2011 at 1:26 am | Report abuse |
    • melvinslizard

      Somebody just lost ALL of his street cred hahahahahahahahahahhaha

      November 28, 2011 at 4:39 pm | Report abuse |

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