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September 27th, 2011
06:08 PM ET
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announces nominationsThe nominations for induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 2012 have been released, and it’s an interesting list. Ballots will be sent out to over 500 voters, who will choose the artists to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame this year. The nominees are:
“The 2012 Nominees embody the broad scope of what ‘rock and roll’ means,” said Joel Peresman, President and CEO of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. According to the press release, to be eligible for nomination, “an individual artist or band must have released its first single or album at least 25 years prior to the year of nomination.” That means the 2012 nominees must have released their first recording no later than 1986. (Sorry, Justin Bieber, check back in 2034.) The winners will be announced on April 14, 2012, at the 27th Annual Induction Ceremony, held in Cleveland, Ohio. Visit rockhall.com for more details, and information about tickets for the ceremony. Who gets your vote? |
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bobby rydell is one of the remaining rock in roll artists of the 1950s and early 1960s still performing today when a lot of other artists have called it quits. he deserves this reconition and honor, into the rrhof...
beastie boys! RHCP! War! Guns and Roses! and Heart! get them in and check out Blues hall of famer Joe Bonamassas new apparel line at http://bit.ly/y2B1i0 or tributapparel.com !!
I just attended a Moody Blues concert in Sarasota. I listened to 2 hrs of one hit after another brilliantly performed by well deserving musicians. The Moodies have been rocking America with outstanding songs for over 45 years. Take a look at Justin Haywards bio, he has written over 200 songs and continues at the age of 69 to play to sold out concerts all over the world. Come on HOF, what in the hell does a group have to do to be recognized for their longevity and professionalism. What a frickin joke the Rock & Roll HOF is. Rush is also very deserving of enshrinement.
Whoa, pull up pleeeeeeaze The Gr8 Rock'n'Roll Hall of FAME! I have totally agree with your readers, "What about Rush, Kiss, Cheap Trick, Def Leppard to name but a few. I see these bands as extremely hard working esp when most other bands would've thrown in the proverbial towell by now. Q: Do your readers know what the criteria is to be nominated and/or selected?I heard G. Simmons say that it didn't matter that Kiss weren't nominated "Yet I beg to differ for an extremely hard working band like them deserve the Kudos that comes with giving 35+ years to an industry that they love and the countless encores that they have afforded their die hard fans. That's dedication and in my book deserves a nomination to say the veryh least as do the other bands afore mentioned.
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what about Grand Funk Railroad
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Where in the hell is YES, they are one of the musically most talented group ever. This is a disgrace!
joan jet and the blackhearts really you have to be kidding. they are a cover band
KISS does not belong in the hall !!!!! They started the decline in music.. When the stage presentation is more important then the music this is wrong!!!!! The one missing is (& long over due) is TOMMY BOLIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Rush not in again ehhh. What's this all aboot!
The Hall is in the states of course they won't induct a Canadian band if they don't have to. I think rush and BTO should be first in line followed by Chilliwack, guess who, Red Rider,trooper, and the stampeders for world famous single "sweet city woman". Triumph, April wine, Lee Aaron, Prism and michel pagliaro would also be awesome candidates just to name a few. Hell these bands contributed more to rock and roll than many american bands and we only had maybe 25 million people at the time compared to the states 200+ million (bigger talent pool). I have come to realise that these bands are maybe just too good for the rock an roll hall.
There are so many great bands that will never make it to the Hall of Fame due to political correctness strategies. Irksome.
I think there should be a bands voted in by fans category. "Best Loved but never Nominated".
The Moodies, The Cars,etc...Heck, why not a TV special to promote it???
WHY U KEEP ON PASSING UP PAT BENATAR
Freddie King. The man. Puts the rest of the list to shame.
I guess Kiss is like Pete Rose! Eric B. and Rakim? I'd put in Whodini before them. i agree with Joan Jett and Beastie boys. Chili pepers a go also. Kiss needs to be in there.
It seems fairly obvious to me that what is really needed is a separate PROG Hall Of Fame. Perhaps, they need to rename the RRHOF as the Jan Wenner and David Wild Hall Of Fame, instead?
D E V O??????? Actually from the state that the hall is in ... Devo's influence felt this day to electronica, dubstep ...
Clearly and ignorantly those who just say Donna Summer is only disco have "no idea" on what ALL her albums are about. Early on her first few albums were disco, but afterwards while she remained recording 'uptempo songs' or having 'uptempo' hits, ALL HER ALBUMS were a combination of ROCK, POP, SOUL, NEW AGE, REGGAE and ELECTRONICA. The woman is a vocal chameleon, whose music is known worldwide and almost every generation knows several of her songs in the very least. She is just totally being biased against without those folks knowing her music at all. This woman today can sing circles around many other female acts without any music in background.
beastie boys chily peppers ,gnr the cure ,heart
Folks, the Small Faces and the Face were two distinct separate bands, and it does a disservice to both to lump them together. For me, the Faces should've been in a long time ago.
Here are the top 25 vote-getters (year 2011) on the "Deserving of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" list at:
http://www.rateitall.com/t-2529-deserving-of-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame.aspx
The 2012 nominees for the R&R HoF are (# indicates where they were on my list at the time of their nomination): Red Hot Chili Peppers (#19), Guns n' Roses (#25), Joan Jett (#60), The Beastie Boys (#168), Heart (#12), Freddie King (#181), Laura Nyro (#191), Rufus with Chaka Khan (#421), Donna Summer (#212), The Faces/Small Faces (#232), The Spinners (#82), Donovan (#30), The Cure (#43), Eric B. & Rakim (#949), War (#64)
1) Rush
2) Chicago
3) Yes
4) Deep Purple
5) Doobie Brothers
6) Moody Blues
7) Dire Straits
8) The Cars
9) Electric Light Orchestra
10) Jethro Tull
11) Pete Townshend (solo)
12) Heart
13) Journey
14) Steve Miller
15) Carole King
16) Styx
17) Kiss
18) Peter Gabriel (solo)
19) Red Hot Chili Peppers
20) Squeeze
21) Stevie Ray Vaughan
22) Jim Croce
23) The Guess Who
24) Foreigner
25) Guns N' Roses
FOREIGNER should have been nominated long ago~
totally unbelievable that the Moody Blues are not on the list – again. This "hall of fame" should be call the "hall of shame"!!!
Come on quit the complaining. Why should great bands like Yes, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Stevie Ray, Moody Blues, etc get in before Blondie? The R&R Hall of Fame is a joke.
There are too many bands in this Hall Of Fame already... but if you are going to include just about everyone, I agree with most who posted here that Rush deserves recognition... some great songs and incredible musicians. I think anyone who plays a musical instrument admires Neil Peart, Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee.
No Dewey Cox or Spinal Tap?
Does this sound familiar? Small Faces did it first.
http://youtu.be/LkQpZpFLpv4
The Small Faces, the original British mods, deserve to be inducted – and should have been 20 years ago. Go to YouTube, search for 'You Need Lovin' and see where Robert Plant got his phrasing for "Whole Lotta Love. He loved the Small Faces and watched them open with this song at every show. (Vocalist Steve Marriott was Jimmy Page's first choice for Zeppelin.) Oasis, The Jam, and other Brit pop from the 90s? Small Faces. Keith Richards, Ozzy O., David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Chris Robinson, Dan Baird, Steve Perry, Bon Scott and Jack White all listed Marriott as one of their favorite artists or an influence on their music. Their sound ranged from hard-driving R&B to groundbreaking psychedelia. Listen to Tin Soldier, All or Nothing, Lazy Sunday, and Rolling Over because they did so much more than Itchycoo Park.
What about King Crimson, The Pogues, Steeleye Span, Fairport Convention, Roxy Music???
God knows if these bands can ever get into the RnRHoSHAME --
Rush,Yes, Strawbs
Renaissance, Jethro Tull, Kansas
Ultravox, Van Der Graaf Generator
Mike Oldfield, Deep Purple, Moody Blues
Nektar, Camel, Caravan, Starcastle
Donna Summers is in a class of her own. Her music genres are all over the place but she has sang some rock ballads, some disco songs and even some R&B classics. They shouldn't shut her out, they should allow her to be a part of the Rocking Roll Hall fame. Disco music was denied so many accolades back in the 70's because there was beautifully, flawed human beings (minorities of all colors, genders and gays and so on) that were the biggest fans of this music. You can break down so many disco classics and hear some of the bass lines that don't mirror rock songs but actually rock songs mirror these intense bass lines. Don't be fooled, maybe Rock God's like Led Zepplin and Sabbath weren't sitting around listening to disco songs and I'm fully aware that disco got a bit campy for true music lovers but no one couldn't deny the musicanship that many disco artists like; Chic, Taste of Honey, to name a few good ones and what they possessed was genuis. As far as Donna Summer is concerned, some of her biggest hits were songs like; "She Works Hard For The Money, Macarthur's Park, No More Tears (with Barbra Streisand) and the list goes on but these songs many would consider them dance songs but what these folks are forgetting, is the fact that many of these hits had the true heart and spirit of Rocking Roll. Of course, anytime there are Black artists, it always seems like they have to jump hoops to get into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I don't want to even get started why Madonna, who is extremely talented and has conquered the world, is in and but Janet Jackson, who is just amazing beyond belief and has been in the business for some time, can't catch a break with even getting a nominee. When country artist get inducted, there isn't any gripes or complains. I'm a big country fan as well but allegedly rock and roll's foundation is country, which I don't see it or here it. "Sweet Home Alabama" was more country than rock and a great song. All the rock rollers (band wagon guys and girls) want to claim that super and incredible artists John Cash (miss him and love him) and even Merle Haggard and the entire Grand Ole' Opry as their personal inspirations. BS. The Beatles (one of the most honest and greatest bands in history) told it like it was and that was many of their influences were Rhythm and Blues artists. Love little Pat B. (Treat Me Right and Love Is A Battlefield) but I'm sorry to say but Donna Summer can sing her under a table. "On The Radio" is one song that the powerful of vocals of Donna come shining through. I sound like the biggest racist on the planet but I got to stick up for my minorities because I'm one.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke year in and year out with their nominees. A waste of time, with those who don't get nominated that should've been in there already, and the list every year shows that it's biased and a joke. Guns & Roses nominated over a list of bands that should've been in years ago! Def Leppard, Chicago, Kansas, Rush, Pink Floyd, Kiss, and so forth and so on should be in there already. Take care..... Peace To All
Heart gets nominated before Stevie Nicks.. What a joke!!!
RUSH gets snubbed again! 30+ years of great music has once again gone unrewarded!
Hall and Oates, Journey, Rush, not nominated again. Why not leave it to the fans? 50% of the vote should come from fans. Hold the ceremony in Cleveland our move the building to New York. Term limit on who sits on the board. New artist should be allowed a vote. Damn this is pathetic.
I agree with the choice of Joan Jett, since she did do some serious pioneering (along with the ladies of Heart) to bring women into the front of the rock and roll scene. But frankly, leaving out greats such as KISS and Rush is absolutely ridiculous. What those groups did in terms of music and showmanship leads me to say that it is an absolute shame that they are once again being overlooked.
The Hall of Fame has Chuck Berry, the Beatles and the Stones. Muddy Waters. It should be an elite place, meaning there shouldn't be bands or singers put in every year just because there are nominations every year. Putting some of these bands and singers in the Hall in the past, present and sure to be future only diminishes the honor for those who are rightfully in. You don't put a baseball player in because he has a really good year once or twice. You put them in when have had a career of excellence. How many current members, or members on the ballot this year, have had that kind of career?
You can tell that it is "popular" music that gets the nod. My picks, out of the selection above, would be The Cure and Joan Jett and Heart.
As for omissions, I will go away from the norm and not list the obivous ones like Rush and Kiss. I think Siouxsie and the Banshees should be in as well as Echo and The Bunnymen and The Pogues.
Again, the R&R HOF is irrelevant. Who nominates 1 hit wonders and totally irrelevant, generally untalented and obscure artists and completely overlooks longtime contributors to not one, but several, decades of influence like Kiss and Rush. 4-5 on the list are completely a joke and mean nothing to the average rock and roll fan. In fact I've listened to many forms of rock spanning 45 years and have never heard of some of these... Come on. Lets vote the R&R HOF out of existence by creating and supporting a new and real HOF!!
The people listed below I've never heard of. Also most of the people that other posters suggested should be on the list that aren't I never heard of them either. My opinion is that whom ever gets inducted should be someone that even if you never listened to their music you can say that you've at least heard of them.
Donovan
Freddie King
Laura Nyro
The Small Faces/The Faces
The Spinners
War
Even if you not have heard of Small Faces/Faces, their work continues to influence bands you do know. The Small Faces were the original British mods. Go to YouTube, search for 'You Need Lovin' and see where Robert Plant got his phrasing for "Whole Lotta Love. He loved the Small Faces and watched them open with this song at every show. (Vocalist Steve Marriott was Jimmy Page's first choice for Zeppelin.) Keith Richards, Ozzy O., David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Chris Robinson, Dan Baird, Steve Perry, Bon Scott, Oasis, The Jam, and Jack White all listed Marriott as one of their favorite artists or an influence on their music. Listen to Tin Soldier, All or Nothing, Lazy Sunday, Rolling Over, and of course, Itchycoo Park. And then, of course, Marriott went on to form Humble Pie with Peter Frampton. Do they ring a bell? The Faces went on with Ron Wood and Rod Stewart. I now you've heard of them. I really hope you'll check them out.
As a Clevelander, the RNR HOF is an embarrassment in that we are supposed to happy to now being able to host the induction ceremonies once every 3 years as opposed to every year like it should be. (The only HOF in existence where the inductions are routinely held in another city, lame!) That being said, after not having been there in years, I ended up there twice this year, and the museum is really nice and better than it was when it first opened.
Still, the museum will still be a joke as long as Wenner is involved in keeping certain bands out. I'm all in favor of inducting a wide range of deserving artists - but the key is on DESERVING. There are many bands in there that shouldn't really be in - some one-hit wonders, for example. But keeping groups out like KISS, Yes, Rush, etc. (ironically, I'm not a big fan of any of those 3) is just wrong. Also, the baby boomers involved in the process are way too biased against many acts from the 70s on. That needs to change as well, as rock didn't begin in the 60s, nor did it end there.
Wasn't it only EXTREMELY recently that Black Sabbath was inducted as well? I don't remember but they forget VERY important bands yet they rush Jay Z and Madonna into this when its not their genre.
Is Judas Priest in the hall? I know Jay Z is which makes NO SENSE. Its funny that archtects of entire ROCK genres are not in but rappers are.
The sheer fact that RUSH isnt already in the R&R hall of fame, not to mention not even on the list, makes this silly thing lose complete credibility.
Rush sold 40 million albums in 20 studio albums plus other albums they put out.
GNR sold 100 million with just 2 albums, an EP, and a few cover, live and greatest hits albums. Chinese democracy doesn't even count.
RUSH = GARBAGE
Idk how wildly successful bands who have always sold out tours like Deep Purple and Rush do not make the rock and roll hall of fame. Its not like these bands are not critically acclaimed as well, makes no sense.
Finally Heart gets nominated.
What about more recent bands that are up their in age as well? Iron maiden? They are an extremely successful band that are up there in years now. I bet they will be snubbed as well.
My thoughts exactly
not one mention of george thorogood and the destroyers bad to the bone has been played in 12 movies they are still touring and releasing albums what a travesty they are not in
Chaka Khan with Rufus should have been in there a long long time ago. No one sings better than her or has a higher range in their voice. Chaka Khan is the Alpha and the omega. All the rest can take a back seat to her. End of story.
Chicago, Rush, Hall & Oates, Yes, Iron Maiden, Electric Light Orchestra, Procol Harum, Jethro Tull. These are eight of the more egregious omissions made by the RRHoF, and all eight deserve to be in as they changed the rules with regard to rock. As somebody said, it's less about the music and more about the networking and money. I'm still trying to understand why The Pretenders and Madonna are in this thing–I'm guessing they are in good with the big man, but let me tell you this: JANN WENNER sucks THE BIG ONE!! Okay, I feel better now 🙂
The fact that KISS is not in the rock n roll hall of fame, but jay-z, and Madonna are make it invalid
This is a pretty good list with some good choices. I would vote for The Cure, GNR, Donovan, Donna Summer, RHCP. They had the best combination of hits and innovation.
I also totally agree that the Moody Blues and Rush should be in right now, in fact before the acts mentioned in this article.
As long as Jann Wenner is in charge, it will continue to be a joke. Donavan? Rock 'n Roll? It's like when Leonard Cohen got in. Great and influential song writer. But Rock 'n Roll? Sorry, I don't get it. The only two on that list I would vote for are Heart and The Spinners. Heart because they did play Rock 'n Roll and were the first legitimate Rock 'n Roll band fronted by two females. The Spinners just because they were damn good.
The ongoing omission of the Doobie Brothers is a travesty.
Come the F on! STILL no Warren Zevon??/ But... DOnna Summer? yeah, 'cos she's so much more Rock and Roll. What a joke.
The impact Kiss has had on Rock N Roll CANNOT be understated. The live shows, the songs, the theatrics, the marketing, the countless other bands they inspired and revere them to this very day, the amount of kids they inspired to pick up an instrument, the longevity, the number or records sold...etc.
For the Hall of Fame to ignore them is an obvious contrived snuff.
To ignore Rush is just as criminal
DONNA SUMMER???!!!..I thought it's called the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame NOT the DISCO Hall of Fame!!!!??
6, maybe 7 rockers on the list. The rest? NOT rockers.
GNR Overated?, Nah...Axehole Blose is just "Misunderstood"!!!
GNR is the most overrated band in history
The RnR Hall of Fame is bogus.... Its not the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame, its the "Who Music Writers Want Hall of Fame" –
Beastie Boys, maybe sometime in the next 5 years. No doubt they are great and deserving. If The Cure are getting in, also great, then why not the Smiths? Greatest band coming out of Manchester, ever. They are flippin' ubelievable...
RUSH needs to get in on merit alone (see previous stats littered throughout previous comments).
One question, I think Duran Duran and Depeche Mode need consideration over the course of the next few years. Duran Duran fused disco and punk to create some of the best new wave around; check out first album. Depeche Mode has been cited by many modern acts as a huge source of influence, and have been labeled by many pundits as the "Godfathers of Electronica"... and let's all be honest ... the RRHOF has not been truly "rock and roll" based from its inception...
Rush passed over again. What a shame.
This supposed hall of fame is a total joke. I can't believe anyone actually would go to this thing. Hate to break it to you RRHoF but disco is NOT rock n roll!!
Rush Most definitely!!! Deep Purple, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Kiss, Triumph....and the list goes on. They have contrinbuted more to Rock Music and inspired more artists than many already in the HOF!
While I may not like all the artists that in are in the HOF, Some of them do belong there whether or not I like their music but really, many there that don't belong.... Who's next, Tommy Tutone?
Total crap! Rock Hall is a scam! What about Deep Purple? They are one of the architects of Rock and Roll!
Total crap! Rock Hall is a scam! What about dee Purple? They are one of the architects of Rock and Roll!
As long as Jann Wenner is in charge of the RnRHOF, it will continue to be as lame as his magazine. The man is a corprate shill who would not know rock music if it bit him on the you know what. What do you expect from a man whose magazine constantly dissed the best rock band ever ? While I am not a Rush fan ( can not stand geddy lee's voice and consider Peart to be overated..Lifeson is the best part of the band) they really do belong in the HOF based on the fact they are still together and going strong. And SHAME on the HOF for not inducting the Moody Blues a long time ago....they are probably the best all round MUSICIANS to come out of the sixties. Peace...
Rush??? They are a deserving band more than most of what's on this years list. A trio that plays amazing and intricate rock music.
Seriously, they need to change the name of the place, simple solution...the committee who nominates these artists are as affiliated with the term "rock and roll" as Ghadafi is to democracy! I'm a huge fan of heavy metal music, but even I argue with what few metal selections they've chosen to nominate over the years. There's no way you can justify Metallica entering any Hall of Fame before the likes of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motorhead or any of the legitimate bands who, without them Metallica would cease to exist. It's like the baseball Hall of Fame inducting Mike Schmidt ahead of Babe Ruth...That said, if you're going to include Eric B and Rakim or the Beastie Boys, I'm fine with it...but even the members of these groups will confess they shouldnt be included under the umbrella of "rock and roll". Granted, I'm sure they'll be happy to be there and receive the notoriety for their efforts but, sorry...not rock and roll...as for Rush, Dire Straits and Kiss....both a shame, but it's only a matter of time for them. I cant see those glaring omissions continuing without protest for much longer. Donna Summers definitely belongs though...she was the drummer for Foghat, right?
You're spot on Maiden! We need to see the great "innovators" of a musical genre that is still alive and thriving and selling out venues all over the world. How can they overlook Judas Priest and the Metal God? So much of todays music was influenced by these great musicians and they continuously get snubbed. Musical racism against metal? The BNWOHM has given us so much great, enduring music - they should not be ignored! Just look at these guys on stage even after decades of relentless touring and recording - they are having a blast on stage and so are the fans. And they're selling tons of albums to boot, so no matter which way you look at it, impact on genre, revenue generated, fan base, these groups have a more dedicated and rabid following than almost any of the other nominees listed. What a farce.
every time the members of RUSH pee, more talent goes down the drain then Axl Rose will have if he lives to be 2112 !!!
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame... really? There seem to be more "Non-Rock" Artists ( and I use that term VERY loosely ) than actual Rock Genre artists..... Beastie Boys? Are you F'ing serious?
Oh well, Rolling Stone was always a joke anyway....
R U S H S U C K S
I wonder why some people don't get a freaking CLUE. Rock & Roll is not just "rock music". Rock and Roll does encompass ALL the music and musicians descended from the musical revolution of the 50's, leading into the 60's and all the way to the hip hop/rap/pop acts of today. Sorry, the RRHOF is not limited to adding just the bands YOU like, it pays respect to ALL the significant artists, writers, producers et al of the modern generation.
Rush ? I have NO freaking idea who they are or what songs the sing. I have never consciously heard a Rush song. So leaving them off the list makes sense to me. I've listened to and enjoyed the music of most of the nominees, except the Beastie Boys whom I hate, but I won't act like the Hall should only induct the artist I like, all you complainers about hip hop, blues. pop and soul acts being inducted should do the same.
Never heard of Rush? I'm sorry, you're either too young, or you live in the dark ages.
Too bad.
The Beastie Boys? Really? I'm not sure their impact on the music world was that intense, please....
You have got to be kidding, Eric B and Ra-who? Not even sure HOW their name came up. They were known for one or two songs. Groundbreaking? No and neither was Joan Jett. Whoever came up with the list is an even bigger joke than the names that made the so called cut.
Hello? The HOF needs: D * E * V * O
This is a hall of FAME, not hall of popularity. These halls should be a sacred place where only the best of the best are honored. I'm talking about performers like The Beatles or Muddy Waters or Michael Jackson or Elvis or Joe Satriani. Those persons or groups who have had a revolutionary impact on their art. Just a performer is popular doesn't mean he or she (or they) should be automatically considered. For example, I don't see Janis Joplin or Jethro Tull as necessarily worthy (and I like both of their music).
I worked for, and toured with Rush for over 20 years, among about 50 other touring artists since the mid 1970's. In the past, I have expressed my righteous indignation over the annual ridiculous nominating process that produces artist nominations that leave most of the informed and aware of us .... in annoying awe over the blatant – bonehead choices. This year is no different, and although there are some deserving names, the total absurdity of most on the list is overwhelming. It just proves how much of a fraud that – IS – the R&R hall of shame. The thing about Rush is that they are three of the most genuine, kind, and considerate people that I have ever met, in addition to being world class musicians and writers........They epitomize, by any measure, what any "Hall Of Fame" – of any medium or classification – should be proud to induct.......BUT....they are ...ultimate unpretentious men and musicians who are totally unfazed by this blatant disrespect. The simple fact that they are probably the most mentioned band by their fans during the yearly stupidity of the Hall of Shame nominations, is most likely a source of quiet pride for Geddy, Alex, and Neil. The only thing that really distresses me at this point is that the past induction of many deserving artists is so diminished by the nominations and inductions of so many "politically appointed pretenders" to the "Hall". To Rush, and many other deserving bands out there.........IT JUST "DOES NOT MATTER".....ALL OF YOUR BODY OF WORKS – SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES........
Rush should be in, no question...Beyond having genre-defining recordings, they did break into the mainstream to some degree. Also, as many have pointed out, they have influenced untold numbers of musicians in style, sound and abilities. Dave Grohl of the Foo Fighters often cites them as big influences and a huge reason they want to be known as musicians and not necessarily "rock stars".
Also, for no other reason than paying homage to the excesses of rock, Kiss needs to be in the HOF...
KISS.
KISS.
KISS.
KISS.
KISS.
KISS.
That's the only band who's name needs to be on a Freakin' ballot.
I think the organization should change its name to The Easy Listening/Will Carry Our Grudge Against KISS to the Grave Hall of Fame.
Off of that list? GNR! Where's KISS at though? Did they get snubbed again? How about Pink Floyd? Who comes up with the list anyway?
Ok, I love Rush, expecially when I was younger, and while I do think they should be in from a popularity standpoint (granted a ton of closet fans), I can't say they made major changes to rock. These three guys are phenom at what they do, but they didn't start a movement of semi quasi intellectual songwriting and top notch musician ship. Their legacy is only their music, and inspiring many vituoso performers. But, if you don't count Triumph, there was not a wave of people trying to emulate what they did. And, unfortunatly, the majority of the music while excellent in it's own right is sterile, lacking a passion and soul you might find from the Chili Peppers..I'd say GNR as well, but don't think they should go because the self destructed to quick..they should have owned their genre, instead, more a flash in the pan..
You don't count "inspiring many virtuoso performers" as generating a wave of people emulating them. Geddy is a hero to countless bass players, Alex equally so to Guitar players, and Peart is on every list of the best drummers ever made. One reason Rush is not emulated extensively is that many groups don't have the musical chops to endure the time and key changes. They simply are not technically good enough to play the style of rock the Rush plays.
HEART!!! Finally! And I agree with the poster re: 'it should all be about rock." It's the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame.
I have to say I'm not a big fan of Rush. They have great musicianship but Geddy Lee's voice totally ruins it for me. he sounds like a pre-pubesent boy whining when he sings. And for those who don't think the Beastie Boys should be inducted because they're rap, they started out as a punk band. They also play they're own instruments on the albums with instrumentation.
WHERE ARE THE MONKEES!!!!!!!
Yes, the HOF is a joke- but i still think the artists like the recognition. Now where the hell is Pat Benatar's nomination? Just plain ludicrous that she's not in there. Don't worry Pat, you don't need it- you're still our #1 of all time.
Why do they at the RRHOF induct the new members into the RRHOF in New York vice Cleveland? What’s the matter RS is Cleveland not good enough for you?
Ian Hunter said it best; Cleveland Rocks!
Jeff Palmer
You are so on with Johnny Rivers–
Joan Jett? I'm an openminded person, but where is there any sign of any body of work? If you want to highlight women rock pioneers, give Fanny an award. Joan Jett? Really?
ONE MORE THING–what should we expect
Rolling Stone listed The Who as the 29th greatest artists, behind groups like The Clash (do love the Clash), Ramones (do Love the Ramones), Velvet Underground (do love the VU). These other three dererve the recognition for how great they were, 9and the list is ARTIST, not RR GROUP) but common!!! Tell me what other rock group could match the artistrythe mix of arguably the best bassist and drummer in the business, and one of the best writing/singing/playing tandems of Roger and Pete? (leave out U2, Stones, Beatles, etc). They have had some crap in their later years, but as RR goes...That list is not specifically RR, but just goes to show the mentality of RS and RRHOF.
I love the WHO as well, but you mentioned what other group.... How about... YES. Steve Howe alone has racked up more guitar awards than most of the guitarists already in the RRHOF. Guitar player magazines best overall guitarist 7 years straight. Yes is still touring and creating new music.. so YES there is another....
WAR
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts
The Spinners. AND give it to ...Siouxsie and the Banshees
I am going to ROCK out to some Jammmin ABBA!!!! Yup they are in and Deep purple, Rush, Jethro Tull, Judas priest and Kiss are not!!!! W T F
Only when they quit letting the limousine liberals in New York at the Rolling Stone Magazine cheery picking who should be in the RRHOF then who goes in will mean something. G n R really? They had 2 hits on one of six crappy albums.
Can't believe Steve Miller hasn't gotten in.
No one else deserves to get in until Johnny Rivers gets in.
Rush, triumph,Chicago, dire straights, Jethro Tull,SRV, Deep Purple
They screwed up the RRHoF the minute they decided to put it in Cleveland. Should have been in San Francisco....the people there understand the difference between RR and Pop.
RUSH,Chicago,Deep Purple,Steppenwolf,Direstraights,Stevie ray Vaughan
RUSH
This should be called the Rock n LOL hall of fame inductees. only a couple are Rock.
ABBA and MAdonna are in and RUSH,Chicago, Deep Purple,Steve Miller,Dire straights,Stevie Ray Vaughan,Steppenwolf,Kiss,Judas priest,Boston, Doobie bros, are not??? ABBA and Maddona are great performers but they shure aint rock n roll l!!!!
You can blame Jann Wenner for the lame people that get nominated. IT IS all about money. Jann has always been a poser,even when Rolling Stone WAS cool. Ever since Ahmet Ertegun died these nominee lists have gotten worse and worse. If you're tires of this call,write,and e-mail Jann c/o Rolling Stone Magazine. I KNOW he'll be happy to hear from you. For one thing it would help if we removed the Record Business people from the judging panel,and replaced them with oh,I don't know...how about famous MUSICIANS!
RUSH!!!!!!!! Come on, it's about time to let 'em in!! Heart? Joan Jett? Donna Summer? Only the Beatles and Stones have more consecutive gold/platinum records than Rush. MAKE IT HAPPEN!
Anyone Know if the Allman bros are in?
RUSH!!!!!!! Tull, yes,deep purple, Chicago, Dire straights, SRV, Robin Trower and many more
Rush
The "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" is no such thing. It is one wealthy man's pet project to bestow honors on what he likes, and to the hot place with anyone else. Shame on CNN and all the other journalists who treat it with respect.
The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is obviously a joke. How the hell can anyone, with any level of musical knowledge & appreciation, nominate the beastie boys over Rush, Kiss, Chicago, Yes.....among others? Even GnR doesn't deserve to be in before the four that I mentioned.
The beastie boys are nobody in the music world. They weren't an inspiration to anyone other than their small fan base of teen-age party girls and even they don't know who the beastie boys are anymore, I defy anyone to tell me different.
It's a disgrace and an insult to the great Rock n Roll bands of the world when a group of nobodys gets a nomination.
Hey–this is a FUN thread!!!
Never been to Cleveland and will never go to the HOF when I do, if their glaring omissions continue. Seems like it should be a showcase, which includes representing the purpose for which it was designed. I actually sepnt some time looking over the annual inductee lists. The HOF has had plenty of time to catch up on acknowledging the workand influences of the bands and people they are supposed to represent. It has gotten out of hand and has lost it's focus.The RRHOF deserves to recognize artists and influences from the wide aray of generes that are in. Of course, one does not have to like a particular act to still appreciate the impact a group of person may have had on the industry. As such, and I know I am leaving out MANY who would still meet these criteria, They need to acknowledge the following:
Chubby Checker–How can Chuck, Bo, LR, Fats ad Bill be in but CC not. On its own, the Twist was enough of a Rock and cultural phenomena to need to put him in with this group
Grand Funk Railroad. Sure they had some pop hits, but few seem to know they were among the most influential American Rock band in the late 60's early 70's by sales, tours, etc–they were even the Opening band for the Midnight Special series–A GREAT three man group and huge influence.
As almost everyone else has identified–RUSH may be the best ever three man rock group eve–just a joke and insult they are not in (and it would be a great show if they ever declined a nomination WHEN so offered)
Other rock bands: Moody Blues, KISS, Tull, YES, Chicago, BOC–what is the HOF thinking.
Individual song writers and many other artists deserve recognition and inclusion, before most of the groups on these new list. I LOVE the Peppers,The Spinners were one of the most important Soul bands and influences from the 70's, the BB's–great but not yet before those others, Heart–saw them in the 70's their first time around–agreat and important group, but not before this list. Donna–great but, again, not before, The Cure– before–are they kidding me?????????
RRHOF-POLITICS BEFORE PURPOSE
There are so many bands from the 70's that should be in RNRHOF, music from the 70's early 80's is still the number one choices. From Rush and yes, even The Bay City Rollers !!!
Rush isnt on the list? its funny Deep purples" smoke on the water" and Steppenwolfs'"born to be wild' are two of the biggest R n R songs of all time and they are not in either! Chicago in? Ted Nugent? Yes? Jethro Tull?Doobies? Dire straights? Steve Miller?
Ted Nugent?
Really?
Ted has two songs that anybody knows. Catch scratch fever and Stranglehold. He has not been relevant musically since 1978. He is more famous for being a loudmouth gun nut, than he is for his music. I went to see Ted open for Kiss and he played the same song TWICE in one concert. You know your music library sucks if you have to play the same song twice because you don't have enough material that anyone knows.
Well, it can't be about the money. Rush is the 4th highest grossing band of all time. So it's not that. A while ago it was probably just that nobody really got them, they were the misfits and outsiders. Now, however, it is an honor for them to be snubbed. I don't want them nominated. That would be a let down from their current, lofty position of way to good for the R&R Hall of Fame.
The RNR HOF is a joke and nothing to get too worked up about. Having said that, how can Rush and KISS not be in it? And I hate Rush and merely tolerate KISS.
Man, you might as well put Cindi Lauper and Wierd Al!. This is ridiculous.
When in the hell is Journey and Rush going to be nominated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?
I I for one am THRILLED that The Cure has FINALLY gained some recognition. They started releasing albums in 1979 folks. (13 studio albums thus far) All of them are fantastic from beginning to end. They have had a major impact on the alternative music scene that is actually the only listenable and creative scene out there these days. There are some really great bands that site The Cure as having a huge influence.
I was horrified that Madonna got in!! Who has she impacted besides Lady GaGa, Britney Spears and Katy Perry?? Really??
No Tull !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Again????????? The longer it goes before Tull, Yes, Rush, etc. are nominated, the more inconsequential the Hall of Fame is. I've been there and it's pretty cool but they are missing an important genre of music. Call these bands the Rodney Dangerfield of bands I guess...
I'm writing about rock music some of the time, so I don't want to get too opinionated here. But let me just add, I thought they were saving the Kiss induction for 2012 (explaining what has seemed like foolishness on the parts of the hall of fame selection committee or however they refer to themselves) because, maybe seeing that some people think 2012 is going to be the end of the world, Kiss would, like, do a stage show with make believe world destruction, and a bunch of scantily clad young ladies kissing them goodbye while Ace reunites with Kiss for one last guitar solo while stuff is exploding on stage with flames shooting out, not too much different than their 70's stage show. It would have been a marvelous stage show! They could have called the song "The End of Love", or something. I guess we'll just have to imagine it.
Guns N Roses over RUSH?? Ok GNR were relevant for a while and have a huge fan base but they only released a handfull of albums and were always disrespectful of their fans (Axl mostly) and are the poster boys of bad behavior (I know I know, it's the Rock N Roll way. I do believe like hundreds of people that already voiced their opinion and not only because RUSH is a Canadian band that they deserve, more than any others, to be in the Hall of Fame but I'm sure, being modest musicians, that it doesn't make any difference to them.
IAN HUNTER AND MOTT THE HOOPLE!!!!!! another glaring imission AGAIN
It's become a joke of who gets inducted these days but I'm going with Heart or Donovan.
No Rush = No Legitimacy
Donna Summer before The Zombies? FAIL!!!
WTH??!??! No GWAR? What is this world coming to? lol....
What about Paul Revere and the Raiders.......should have been in there a long time ago !
What a joke. That's what you get when a Jewish businessman is the CEO. Sorry Gene & Paul – even your own people don't respect your contributions.
The Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame is just the Hard Rock Cafe without the burgers.
Personally, I could nevr stand the likes of Rush, Kiss, etc...... but have to admit that , from a business standpoint, the rock Hall may be shooting itself in the foot by repeatedly excluding these prog rock/metal heroes.
Rush, Yes, and King Crimson Definitely deserve a nod. They finally put in Genesis in the past couple years. I was hoping that would be a "genesis" to admitting more prog. rock bands.
AND WHY IS STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN NOT ON THIS NOMINEE LIST?
Guns N Roses had their moment, but they were not prolific enough to deserve this. They are a footnote of the late 80s, nothing more. All I can say is: RUSH
The RRHOF is a big sham, how is it a ROCK back with 24 Gold, 14 Platinum including 3 multi-Platinu records and has sold over 40 million units worldwide hasn't even ever been nominated to get into the HOF yet they nominate Joan Jett and Blackhearts PUUUUUULLLEAAASEE!! Will someone from Cleveland PLEASE go over to the museum, smack the currator in the head and tell them they need to put Rush in the HOF!
GNR sold 100 million + – you mad?
The only thing that really counts is when they take the stage and still rock the house. The HOF is just a sham to prop the ego of people who weren't that great when they were around.
When are these idiots going to realize the impact KISS has had on the music industry? How the hell can you induct G 'n' R before them??? And DONNA SUMMER? Did she ever even record a rock 'n' roll song???? Will these clowns ever get it right? Swallow your pride and your dislike of the wholly abrasive Gene Simmons and do what is right.
Donna Summer's contribution to rock and roll was that she swallowed Gene Simmons back in the day!
The Rock n Roll Hall of fame lacks full legitimacy until The Monkees are inducted.
And still The Guess Who are ignored. Along with Jethro Tull, Pink Floyd, John Mayall, etc., etc., etc.
Pink Floyd was inducted in 1996.
Where's Foghat!!!!!????? Best Rock/Blues boogie band ever!!!!!! Long live Lonesome Dave!!!!!!
R 'n R Hall of Shame.........
It shouldn't be about how many records they sell or how "great" their music might be, but what they contributed towards the Rock and Roll genre, how much of an inspiration they are towards new artists, and their ability to keep performing and writing new songs and albums that keep a strong fan base.
Rush, Beastie Boys, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, etc.
You get the basic idea of where I'm going here.
Oh, and if you don't induct Motorhead into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame than you don't know anything.
CAT STEVENS CAT STEVENS CAT STEVENS
These Canadians, my god, every year they're incensed because the RRHF doesn't induct Rush. And if you don't like Rush, they accuse you of not knowing about musicianship, like Rush is musicianship. Rush was considered "musicianship" back in the late 70's-early 80's because we were 15 and didn't know jack sht yet. If you Canadians weren't so cut off from the world up there, so isolated, so clueless about music, you wouldn't be stuck in the 80's musically. Rush will never be inducted because they simply DID NOT HAVE A BIG ENOUGH IMPACT ON ROCK MUSIC. I don't even know that many Canadians that like Rush anymore.
Canadians should be equally incensed that The Guess Who and Bachman-Turner Overdrive have never even been nominated. These guys were the very definition of Rock & Roll.
@Erich – If you don't think Rush is good music then you need to pull a Van Gough on both your ears because you are a tone deaf moronic peter leech. I live in Texas and I know well enough that Rush is greatness.
Rush is greatness? Good, now go out today, if you'll be at the airport, like me, or maybe at your office, and walk up to the first group of people you see, and ask them if they like Rush. They're going to say yes, ok? But look closer at their faces, and you'll see the same sort of joking reaction reaction you'd get if you asked them if they liked KISS. See, as we grow up, we can be introduced to music styles such as Jazz Fusion, we become acquainted with fine wines and super haze danks. We attend things like cultural events, operas, we might do a hitch in the Navy and learn a new language before we even graduate from college. THAT, is when you find that not only Rush, but any progressive rock band from that era, needs to be left behind. You can't take it with you. You have to move on..... But I could always crank up some Zeppelin -in any crowd, any time, any age, even still today. What does that tell you? That tells you who's gonna be in the Rock And Roll Hall OF Fame.
I'd go and do a quick check on which bands have said that RUSH is one of their biggest influences and how much they love RUSH. Some of the biggest, most popular bands in the last 40 years all agree that RUSH is the defacto Rock band. Period. From KISS, to Metallica, Tenacious D, Les Paul, etc, etc, etc. If RUSH hasn't influenced the world of rock, then NO band has.
erich,
Only two bands have had as many consecutive gold/platinum albums as Rush. The Beatles and the Stones. Apparently a lot of people still like Rush.
I have been a musician for 40 years. I don't know a single drummer/percussionist who does not rank Peart in their top five.
Madonna is in the HOF. Please explain to me how her contribution to "Rock" music is greater than Rush.
Guys, Rush is not in there because the RORHOF nominations go through a clique of music industry establishment baby boomers who just really know what they like. That's why you see the Small Faces and not Rush.
Don't let it bother you. The ROR HOF is such a joke that I don't get any more or less bothered that Rush doesn't get into the NASCAR Hall of Fame!
I would love to see the Faces perform Itchygoo Park with Rod stewart on vocals. That and Stay with me.
Hip hop is not rock and roll. Disco is not rock and roll
When they let artists who primarily were disco into the RRHOF, then they might as well open the Baseball HOF up to all the players who were juiced. And I'll throw Al Kooper's name out there as someone who has been snubbed greatly even though many will have to google him to see what he's done.
Faces/small faces long overdue
I'm pleased to see that there are people who understand what takes musical ability and understanding, not to mention talent. Rush has carved out their own musical category with unique chord voicings, sound textures and productions. The same can be said of Yes and Kansas among others. It is interesing that these bands are continuously underrated in favor of bands that have a fraction of their musical ability.
Steve Howe of Yes in particular, has won Guitar Player magazine's "guitarist of the year" so many times, he was honorably removed from contention to give others a chance. That magazine is peer-voted, btw. With Yes also having Rick Wakeman, the undisputable greatest keyboardist of his era, and Chris Squire, regarded among the best & most innovative bassists in the world, throw in Anderson-Squire's unmatchable vocals, and they were definitely THE PRE-EMINENT rock-talent force to be reckoned with.
The hall of fame is a joke... Tower of Power has been, and is still rocking 43 years after getting their start in 1968! Their fan base is spread out all over the world, and we still line up to hear the band every time they play. Come on Hall of Fame... it's about time you found out what is really hip.
Yes Yes Yes
Eric B. and Rakim and these others are on the ballot and KISS is not ? KISS should already be inducted ! If I had already been inducted into the RRHOF, I would be embarrassed to display my award. What a weak award they have turned it into. I have been to numerous shows and never seen anybody outplay KISS live ?.......Never ! I don't know who makes up the panel that determines the nominees but it must be a lame one !
Rush has always been outside of the box, opting to record their own music regardless of what mainstream music thinks. However, to disregard them as non-contributers to the music world is rediculous. From the perspective of musicianship and longevity they deserve to be in the HofF. Rush has withstood much criticism from the top forty crowd; perhaps they aren't suitable to be recognized with such. Again, they're their own enity, and as far as I'm concerned they've been in the Hall of Fame for years.
KISS personifies Rock-n-Roll. Their influence on a generation of musicians is undeniable. Their accolades?? over 100 Million Albums sold...and STILL going... Movies. cartoons, TV Shows, comic books, merchandise, etc... All 16 of the nominees together don't hold a candle to the accomplishments of KISS! The Hall of Fame is a stuffy group of ignorant people. The more I think about it, to not be in it is kind of cool!
I couldn't agree to you more, Chris!
Get real! KISS sucks! They're horrible. You have your taste in your mouth.
Hell yeah on KISS! Long over do.
GNR 100 million albums sold in 2 1/2 albums, a covers album, a live album, and chinese democracy.
Kiiss had how many albums now??? Kiss is a joke.
If you like Kiss, your definitely not a fan of Rock. You belong with dorks like eddie trunk.
Let's look at this list:
Beastie Boys – rap
The Cure – alternative
Donovan – rock/folk rock
Eric B. & Rakim – hip hop
Guns 'N Roses – rock/hard rock/metal
Heart – rock
Joan Jett and The Blackhearts – rock
Freddie King – blues/blues rock
Laura Nyro – singer/songwriter/pianist
Red Hot Chili Peppers – rock
Rufus with Chaka Khan – soul
The Small Faces/The Faces – rock
The Spinners – soul
Donna Summer – disco
War – soul/rock
If it's the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame, induct rock performers. If it's the soul, pop, all of the above HOF, change the name. And no, the inductees this year (or nearly any year) don't all represent the spirit of rock. Does Madonna represent rock? And the list goes on. Anybody who really knows music knows the RNRHOF is a joke. It's all about money, label sponsorships etc. Not about the music like it should have been from the start. It's a sell out.
Once again, no Dick Dale and no KISS. The whole thing is a joke to me...
I lived the 70's and I doubt I'm alone when I say I couldn't get up fast enough to shut off Donna Summer's crap that was invading my Rock and Roll station!
And once again, no Kiss.
More like the Rock and Roll Hall of Lame! I'm all for a lot of these bands being inducted (GnR, The Faces, The Cure, RHCP, Heart), but over other more deserving bands such as Rush, KISS, Cheap Trick, Dire Straights, just to name a few of the way too many. I don't think disco, rap, Madonna, Abba, or a lot of other non-rock bands deserve to be in the Hall either, but it's already a joke, so why rant further. I have no plans in visiting it. Want a real rock museum, go to the Rock 'n Soul Museum in Memphis, it's the real deal!!! AT least it includes Soul in its name.
Also, a previous comment mentioned Rush has never made the list! Can these idiots be MORE out of touch?
Donna Summers? Since when is Disco Rock and Roll? Also, what took so long to nominate a TRUE Rock and Roll band like Heart? Answer, too many non Rock and Roll artists nominated in previous years have clogged up the once proud tradition.
GNR!!! They should be 1st ballot HOF'ers!
RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! RUSH! WHY the "F" is RUSH once again omitted? YOU guys SUCK!!!!
I think both Rush and KIss should be in before GNR. As should Chicago (I'll just forget the 80s version). The criteria is hard to pin down. I don't think Kiss had great music, but it was good enough and you cannot ignore their impact in the 70s. Rush didn't reinvent the wheel, but again hard to ignore. It's not a popularity contest, but the lines are blurry between the bands that get inducted and those that are left out.
Heart is a pretty good band. But I would put a bunch ahead of them in line.
Joan Jett & the Blackhearts didn't do enough to belong. Had a big year in 81 with the Arrow's cover, but why not Benatar then?
Why not Chicago???? They are still rocking after over 40 years. Should have been in the hall years ago!
no SRV, RUSH. i will boycott the hall of fame until they are inducted
Donna Summers, should have made the list years ago.
Donna Summers is NOT Rock and Roll, not even close.
No. But Donna Summer is. Definitely.
thought it was supposed to be for rock and roll not for all and sundry
It is amazing that Chubby Checker is not in. The Twist was the craze in the 1960's. They still play his songs at baseball games.
Eric B & Rakim, is what sold me on rap as an Art form. Just open your ears and listen. Most close minded people can see the stars for the moon. Check his words and delivery hard not to be amazed. Black and White, we all know that the writing is on a new level.
Finally – THE SPINNERS.
But Guns N Roses? Like for what? An album? Please. KISS should off been inducted over those turdios.
Where's William Shatner's NOD??? He had a fantastic album in the 70s and a great cover of Elton John's Rocket Man! What a load of crap!!!
Once again I have to give a shout out to Pat Benatar, who had the second video ever on MTV and helped define where rock was going in the eighties. Her voice is amazing, and her fashion helped to define a certain look that was much copied.
My other shout out is to Living Colour. The fact their music is consistently ignored now is a shame – they were simply amazing on so many fronts, from social commentary in their music to just flat out rocking! Check them out – Cult of Personality and Open Letter to a Landlord is a great place to start.Very popular for a time.
OK, Living Colour's 1st album was 1988 so to early for them, but still, they have to let Pat in at some stage!
Ive read everyone of these postings,a lot of educated rockers out there and a few bozos.Not one of you have even brought up the name of one of the top rock bands of all time,you should be ashamed!!!BADFINGER is one of the top rock bands of all time!!!!What a pity they continued to be ignored from the Rock Hall!!!!!Its so sad that the band cant be recognized before the last member is gone!!!!!This is the saddest and most tragic story in the history of rock n roll!!!!!Dont you agree????
Rush has been performing regularly for 43 years and deserves to be in the RRHF whether an individual likes them or not. They have been selling out venues for years. Screw it...
Studio albums 19
Live albums 8
Compilation albums 8
EPs 1
Singles 78
Video albums 11
Music videos 32
Aside from the sheer volume of their material, pretty much everything they've done through Hold your Fire has been groundbreaking. Even their sleepers have been head and shoulders above the mainstream.
Rush Is KILLER!
I saw Heart a few weeks ago. Pretty good band. Wouldn't call them Hall of Famers though. I love G'N'R, but that nomination is a bit questionable too. The only rock band on this list that I'd say is really worthy is Red Hot Chilli Peppers. I'm seeing lots of mention of Rush and someone said Bon Jovi: Both bands are great and are much more worthy than Joan Jett. In the end, I think there is a good reason why bands like the S*x Pistols and most of Van Halen abstained from the induction ceremonies.
Rush=garbage
I guess you dont like rock then, Limelight,Subdivisions, spirit of the radio,fly by night, YYZ,Feewill, working man, and tom sawyer are all great songs plus dozens of others
Why Not Constipated Moe And The Terd Surfers? My favorite album is D00kie Wonderland. Anyone remember the songs Brown Smelly Stuff, I'm In The Cr@pper Don't Bother Me Now, and Sitting On The Porcelain Throne? I saw them twice on their It's Too Hard To Push Out Tour. Good times!
Yeah they totally rock! Grew up with those songs. D is for diarrhea is their best song.
HAS EVERYONE ON THE PLANET COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN ABOUT PAT BENATAR????????
Just saw your post – I posted about her as well. Had to crank up "You Better Run" in her honor!
Pat Benatar should have been in there by now, agreed.
We are still missing the kings of Rock, Metal, and Punk.
M O T O R H E A D
Amy Winehouse,so far the greatest singer of this millennium.
Not even close.
ROBIN TROWER AND JAMES DEWAR!!!! JETHRO TULL!!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE THE RRHOF HAS NOT NOMINATED THESE ARTIST BUT HAVE PUT IN madonna AND OTHER TWEENY WANNABEE ROCKERS. RRHOF IS LAME!!!!
Stevie Ray Vaughan before any of these people!
A thousand times yes. Nothing against any of these artists, but the fact that SRV is not in the Rock-n-Roll Hall of Fame yet is shameful.
It is a well known fact that Jann Wenner hates progressive rock groups like Jethro Tull, Yes, Moody Blues and Rush. You won't see them in the Hall of Fame anytime soon as long as he is in control.
Same deal for his predecessor, RnRHoF founder Ahmet Ertegun – even though Yes made him rich, the fact that they broke their contract with Atlantic, which Ahmet owned, was a deciding factor for their own, and the genre they started, Prog Rock's, snubs by Ertegun, IMO.
If anyone made Mr. Ertegun rich, it was people like Cream, The Rolling Stones, and Led Zeppelin. And also the Rnb acts that were signed earlier like Ray Charles, Aretha Franklin, and The Drifters. Ertegun's/Atlantic Records fortune didnt start with Yes although they are a part of it.
No Rush, no KIss.....FVCK YOU RnR Hall of Fame
Eurythmics, Carole King, INXS, Bette Midler, help me out...
Not even Uncle Ted? (Ted Nugent) for God's sakes!!! See, this is why it sux.
Oh, and btw, if I were in a group or me personally were in the RRHOF, I would have been embarrassed to even be nominated or be in it since so many big names are consistently overlooked. These big names have defined Rock and Roll.
Yep, RRHOF is a joke and a complete sham. Sure, there are some good names in there, but, to see the lists of bands and individuals who have not even been nominated versus that bands and individuals who are still even wet behind their ears or that they are not even Rock and Roll in the first place, that are a part of it, is completely unbelievable. The RRHOF must be run by a bunch of children who listen to children giving advice about groups or individuals who they have no knowledge of in the first place. I say BOYCOTT the RRHOF!!! As mentioned previously, someone should start a People's Choice Hall of Fame for Real Rock and Roll (PCHFRRR). It just might work.
As if 45 years of concerts and still going strong and their unbelievable orchestration is not enough to get the Moody Blues in the hall. It would almost be an embarrassment to see them go in at this point. They don't need the HOF to make their place in music history.
Rush sucks. How about some real musicians? Ry Cooder.
You obviously know very little about musicianship.
Listen to the instrumental "YYZ" and get back to us
What about Jimmy Page ?? I know he was inducted with Zeppelin but before the Yardbirds and Zeppelin he was the most requested session man in England and virtually played on EVERYONE'S albums. Not only that he is one of the best studio production engineers as well, why do think Zeppelins recordings sound so good after all these years? He was just one of the first producers to record using ambient sound. And, lastly, where are the Moody Blues ? Snubbed again I see. Very underated band with some of the best music from the seventies...Peace...
Definitely! Jimmy is amazing!
I love Jimmy but maybe he's not considered because he was never reallly a "solo" artist though he did release a couple albums. I see nothing wrong with inducting him though as solo artist. HE'S THE WIZARD!!!!
No Rush, Kiss, Boston, Bon Jovi, and Bad Company yet Madonna, ABBA, and Neil Diamond are inducted. Shame Hall of Fame, shame. It's meant to be Rock and Roll NOT pop or rap.
I can't believe GNR is nominated before Stryper, what has the world come to?
Red Hot Chili Peppers & The Beastie Boys all the way ........ they've made music enjoyable over the years, unlike Lady Caca
No Grand Funk Railroad? No Robin Trower?
Grand funk is really good and Robin Trowers "bridge of Sighs" albums is one of the best ever!
The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is becoming as laughable as the Grammys. Guns N Roses? The Cure? The Beastie Boys?? Great acts, but Hall of Fame material? Not even.
Guns and Roses, RHCP, Beastie Boys, Small Faces, Donovan, Heart, The Cure and War are all worthy. Laura Nyro as a writer, absolutely. The problem is those that are missing like many listed above. No one above mentioned other great, influential and enormously popular 60's artists like The Guess Who, Tommy James and the Shondells, Steppenwolf, really! Rush and Kiss are not my cuppa but how can anyone deny their influence and popularity. But, c'mon, it took 'em years to put Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath in and they were no brainers.
I love the Beastie Boys, however rap is not rock n' roll.
Guess im wrong. I thought KISS made fantastic music. I on the other hand did not like REM. Let me reinstate my opinion and not complaint. I think KISS should be in and not REM.
Rufus and Chaka Khan...GREAT it's about time!
Rush?
That's just incredible that they're missing one of the bands with the longevity and fan base that most of these "Hall of Famers" never, ever dreamed of.
And one that hasn't been mentioned, Slade?
And where is Weird Al Yankovic?
Why not read the criteria for induction into The Hall in detail before complaining about it?
The process is not a popularity contest.
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GP
Of course it is. It's a popularity contest among those who get a vote. Where are you packin' that wood anyway?
I've heard KISS is not in the Hall. If so, are you serious? Sounds messed up to me. ugggg Btw I grew up in the 80's/hairband era. GNR should be in. And yes my name suggests i am a Van Halen fan....lol.
KISS is hands down one of the most entertaining groups of musicians ever to be on any stage anywhere but I would never place their actual 'music' in the category of excellent as per the criteria needed to be inducted into The Hall.
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Moody Blues if, for nothing else, the greaest rock ballad ever, Knights in
White Satin. Roll yourself a good one, and tell me you disagree.
WHERE IS RICHARD SIMMONS??!! oh wait...
Guns and Roses???!!! They made like 2 or 3 albums and then split up!!
For years, my husband and I have played Bon Jovi CDs, especially in our car. We saw them live both last year and this year when they came to our city. They're a great rock and roll band and have tons of hits. They're way more relevant that Guns'n'Roses and, unlike GNR, they haven't imploded. By the way, we"re in our '60s and took our teenage kids to the Bon Jovi concerts. They're big fans too. We have also see the Rolling Stones (several times) and U2. My husband and I came of age in the '60s and know great rock music. Bon Jovi is right up there! I can't believe they were nominated but not inducted last year. And it's bafflling why they didn't even get a nomination this year. The Hall of Fame sounds political and I'm sure the fix is in.
The whole thing should be virtual at this point anyway.
Everyone here already considers their favorite band hall of famers anyway, and thinks Hall of Fame is run by numb skulls that can't count or have never bought a rock concert ticket since they were 5 bucks!
They try to be diplomatic, but I think they should just cast a larger net and swoop up more bands; I mean what's the big deal? Is it payola? Are they Evil on purpose? Do they have a fan liason? Not likely. I've heard about people about this. Doing business with the devil.
"Please to meet you, hope you guess my name". " What's puzzlin you is the nature of my game. "
http://www.progressiverockhalloffame.com/
Yes hanson, they is cute!!!!!!
WE NEED HANSON AND CULTURE CLUB IN THE HALL!
Some of those on the list don't qualify as rock & roll. Between what they did last year and the nominees they have picked this year, I don't care what the "Rock and Roll Hall of Fame" does. I feel like one of the U.N members walking out on Ahmadinejad. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, bunch of idiots.
Guns n Roses is a no-brainer.
Rush can feel free to get a nomination, but for all those who says KISS: no. They were performers and showmen first, musicians a distant second.
they need to get grand funk in...or at least nominate leslie's leg.
The Rock and Roll hall of fame is a joke. It's controlled by the elitists who write Rolling Stone. They think that one song no talent artists like Patti Smith were more important than rock and roll giants Jethro Tull, Yes, Rush, Kansas, etc. I will never set foot in the Rock and Roll Hall of fame simply because it's run by those creeps. Abba is in the Rock and Roll hall of fame... that pretty much speaks volumes. When did Abba become "Rock and Roll".
Patti Smith is no-talent? The prog rock bands you name have a lot of fans, but Patti Smith has more fans who actually went on to be musicians, and THAT'S what it means to be influential. And shame on you, Horses is a better album than anything released by the bands you list; especially Journey, which is little more than cut out to be a broadway show, much less a good rock band. They carved out zero ground in favor of sing-along-ability which appeals to the most base of listeners.
i don't understand why the daily buzz mentioned Rush. and then don't list them as a voting option.
Donna Summer and not Rush – this is the Joke Hall of Fame. Surprised Katy Perry hasn't already been nominated.
I know, what a joke.
Again? No RUSH???!!!! – let's call it what it is, the "Hall of Shame"!!
Geils
i don't think Kiss, Rush Styx, Sabbath, Judas Priest or Devo are in, All of these bands changed the genre of music. Joan jett and heart have been ignorde for far too long too. Heck you hear on the radio all the time. Mot the Hoople Sweet, T-rex all have been covered time and time again. hall of fame is sad.
Sabbath is in
Guns N Roses... how tragic! So apparently anyone can get nominated now, regardless?? How pathetic!!
REM is in, and not Rush, or other way more deserving...
Rufus and Shaka Kahn over the Moody Blues. Really? Why not ask the Boss what he thinks about the Moody Blues being passed over yet again. Guess i still won't visit the museum until they are in.
Word of advice. If you do go to the Hall of Fame and you go during the fall be sure there is not a football game being played next door at Cleveland Browns Stadium. Getting back to my car and getting out of there was one of the worst experiences of my life!
The Faces – its about time! Great 70"s band! Rod Stewart, Ron Wood, Ronnie Lane, Kenny Jones – they were one hell of a band before Rod went sole and Ron Wood joined the Stones. Check out some of Ron Woods sole stuff with the "First Barbarians".
When I think Rock-N-Roll roots I think Elvis, Chuck Berry, Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis. I've always felt bad for Chubby Checker that he isn't there.
The Smiths. That is all.
How about ALICE COOPER?
He went in this year.
Here is the "in" list: http://rockhall.com/inductees/alphabetical/
Alice Cooper was inducted this past March.
Kiss and Bon Jovi should be in before GNR.
MONKEES! MONKEES! MONKEES!
guess who, doobie brothers, grand funk, hello?
Beastie Boys only ones worthy on that list. End of story.
I can't believe who is in, and who is not. Next year the Banana Splits will get in.
I saw those guys once on acid. It was a life changing experience.
@erich2112x..yes I gotta admit you are right. What has Canada ever contributed to rock. Hmm..well there are only 2 people to ever have a number 1 hit with 2 different bands. Paul McCartney with the Beatles and Wings and Randy Bachman with the Guess Who and BTO. Pretty good company and no American has ever done that.
I love old rock and roll from the 50's to the early 80's! It's finally time to respect Disco, sorry to say is part of rock and roll history.Disco was king from 1975 to 1982! It had it all! Rock, Blues, Jazz, and hard edge Rock and Roll! Yes, DONNA SUMMER Started out doing Rock and Roll in the 1960's. She got her fame from Disco! But, If you listen to all of her albums, Even, during the heyday of Disco, she would still cut a rock song, In her disco albums! The Bad Girls album is Techno edged disco Rock! That album went Platium! She deserves it! Finally! And DISCO! Finally Needs to be Respected for what it did! You had Elvis, You had the Beatles, And when Rock was slowly fading! DISCO! Actually SAVE ROCK!
I stopped being insulted by this RRHOF joke years ago. No Electric Light Orchestra? No Supertramp? No Alan Parsons Project? ELP? The Moody Blues? Nope. But- Donna Freaking Summer? I haven't heard a joke this lame since A Taste Of Honey won the Grammy for Best New Artist over a band that easily could be in the Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame as well, and that was Toto. Cripes... Kansas, Triumph, Yes, but no, the Disco Queen herself. Sing it Jeff: "I'll tell you once more, before I get off the floor, Don't Bring Me Down...".
Jeff Lynne could have been inducted 3 times over...What is up with RNRHOF!
it is about time that DONNA SUMMER gets into the rock and roll hall of fame WHAT A VOICE WHAT A PERFORMER WHAT A TOTAL TALENT SHE IS CLASS ALL THE WAY this is going to be her year finally
I visited the Hall of Fame 3 years ago. Before going I called to ask some general questions. Just for fun I asked the guy if Yes was ever going to be inducted and in a serious, stern voice he said "No".
I'm 47 and I hate the Hall of Sh** but you know what? The Cure could wipe all these people from the stage, as well as Laura Nyro (RIP)...Go Robert...Go Laura!!! They had the emotion.............as well as Donovan and Small Faces! It's all soooooooo beautiful!
so sad .... no YES, Rush, Tull, etc etc etc .. Gnr? Suumer ?? ... I hesitated to write this comment, but I am so past the point of anger with the "HoF' that it has morphed into laughter at how comical they have become .. they have lost touch with the roots of rock and roll ... I have no malice with "thel list", they all have their positive attirbutes as well (and again, art and music do vary with tastes and critical review) .. but there are so many quality bands that were at the foundation of the whole rock movement .. why not include them (yes, ruch, elp, Moody Boues, etc etc .. etc) . what gives
** please excuse the previous typos !! – late night at work here !! **
GNR IS rock. End of story. There is no greater band out there and never was.
WARREN ZEVON = GENIUS
GUNS N ROSES!!!
When is IRON MAIDEN ever going to be considered??????
I* I second that!!! – Up the irons!!!
Well, the Spinners are the only great group on the list, not that greatness seems to matter much.
Why is it there ain't no publisity about Gospel music. It is nicer to listen to and don't curse or degrade people in the lyrics. I have heard people call Rock and Roll devil music.
Are you for real? 1954 called, they want their opinion back.....
No Crabby Appleton?...Again???
Small faces: about time!!! Beastie who???
What about Dirty Old Bas*ard
The world has indeed gone mad. John McEnroe had it right: "You cannot be serious!". Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Steve Howe, Alan White, and Rick Wakeman (and others): YES, ignored again, these people are complete idiots.
It's a conspiracy!
And on the seventh day the Lord made Freddy King and the Blues soon followed.......
In short the man simply spat hot fire! 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdPD1rcQlig&feature=related
....no Warren Zevon again?
What a shame. Zevon needs to be in there.
Any yet again... RUSH is ignored. Rush is one of the most successful bands over the last 4 decades and they still get snubbed by these morons.
I would imagine Geddy, Neil and Alex are pretty amused by all this, and could probably care less. They know how good they are!!
This Hall of Fame is pretty much running the same course as the "best actress" Academy Award: if we wait long enough, everyone will win one.
You could have the acting ability of Sandra Bullock/Julia Roberts and eventually you'll win an Oscar, just like you can be Genesis, Grandmaster Flash, Earth Wind and Fire, Black Sabbath or any other B-level music act and find yourself in the hall. I guess the key is just to stick around long enough?
My Goodness, where are the Moody Blues?!
GnR?? What a joke.....
Is this Keith be real? Better get real and learn about music. Until then go back to your Bieber dics!
Its because its the Rolling Stone Magazine Hall of Fame, and they must not consider bands like Blue Oyster Cult, Rush, and Iron Maiden to be "rock" while Donna Summers is. Maybe BOC didn't sell as many singles, but they've inspired many many bands, and have been on tour for over 40 years.
I know some music can't be categorized, I know its not just my personal tastes, but c'mon.... disco isn't "rock".
Disco may not be rock, but the woman who was nominated for 3 rock vocal performances Grammys and won one of them is not Donna Summers – she's Donna Summer. She also won two inspirational Grammys as well as an R&B Grammy. Sounds like she was a little bit more than just disco.
Donna Summer gets nominated? What next, the Village People? Pathetic awards.
Blue Oyster Cult should've been inducted the moment they became able to be. They are one of the best bands ever...oops ROCK BANDS ever!!!! I've got everyone of their original recordings on CD and a bunch of 8-tracks and a few albums too!!!!!! In my opinion they're up there with Led Zep, Rush, Black Sabbath ,ZZ TOP,etc.......THEY ROCK!!!!!!! RRHF is crazy!!!!! Long Live BOC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No Guess Who AGAIN?????
As usual, Rush gets screwed. I know the boys really don't care if they get in or not but the fans who have supported them for 35 years would sure love to see them in there. Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a complete joke until they actually induct real acts that defined a genre and have influenced so many bands. Very few bands on that list can claim that.
No Rush? Deep Purple? Silliness
Where is BTO? Bad Company? America? Kansas? Grand Funk?
Should get in: Donovan, The Cure, Heart, Joan Jett, The Faces
And it's nice to see they ignored Rush again this year. What do those Canadians know about rock and roll anyway?
Where are the MOODY BLUES??? HELLO
Flaming Lips !!!
Heart is the most deserving on thie list by far. Beyond that, GNR, Red Hot Chili Peppers, The Cure, and The Beastie Boys would the next five.
Amazing....none of you even mention Laura Nyro....one of the greatest songwriters of all time....IT'S A JOKE SHE'S GOT THE LEAST AMOUNT OF VOTES. Joan Jett?...you're kidding me? ....what a waste of time!
Heart deserves to be in it.
Nick Lowe!
Donna Summer for sure! Finally!
And just where the hell is the Captain and Tenille??? Dammit Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!
If you are going to put a Captain in, put in Captain Sensible!
SPINNERS
I have been a rock pop musician my whole life....who is Eric B and Rakim....are you serious
The only thing worse than the HOF and their arbitrary "nominating" process is people complaining how unfair they;re favorite band didn't get nominated. Its just a business with the name R&RHOFwith an self appointed elist club of nominators and should be ignored.
once again RUSH gets screwed again. the "critics" dont like a band and thats it, no matter what a band has actually achieved in their careers!!!
Because they suck, just like their fans.
The Cure and Faces are the most creative by far.
SMALL Faces were creative – amazing so – Rod Stewart and the Faces – not really.
This rock & roll hall of fame brought to you by Wall street. Not what the people want but what Wall st thinks you want ! I will never go there or say this is the "real Rock & Roll hall of fame" because it`s NOT! NO RUSH,KISS. Yet Rufus with Chaka Khan and The Small Faces/The Faces OMFG BS!
This list just *sucks*
Unfortunately the HOF has failed in its purpose to recognize the inner strength of Rock and Roll.Where were we in 1955 and where are we now and how did we get here. Got to have Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, and Kiss to be meaningful. I mean Joan Jett is cute but no impact...
The worthless cover artist, Joan Jett, can get in but artists like Jethro Tull, Rush, The Moody Blues and Neil Diamond are still excluded? The HoF is completely meaningless. Someone needs to stat a new one and do it right.
Neil DIamond is in already. He was inducted in the last one.
laura nyro deserves the nod. with songs that she wrote were a main stay of the 60's(eli's coming, and when i die, stone soul picnic and many others). as does the moody blues, who are not nominated this year. as for neil diamond, he got in last year.
How are Heart not already in? I would've bet anything they had been inducted!
Rush? Never liked any of their music, never knew anyone who did. Maybe I'm from the wrong generation. The Cure gets my vote. Chili Peppers a close second. Both are still touring and selling out venues.
Unlike Rush, who is also touring and selling out arenas ... and have been for 30 years!
Step into the correct generation please
The conditions for being inducted are : you have started to record music a minimum of 25 years ago- Rush has been together and recorded since 1974. You have to have been an influence on other artists. Metallica, Smashing Pumpkins, Tool etc have all named Rush as major influences on them. Rush has sold more than 45 million records worldwide and they are still touring and selling out venues around the world. They should have been inducted back in 1998 when they were first became elligible!
No Hall and Oates!! BS
HALL IN THE HALL, YES! OATES, NO! I DONTS WANTS THAT CAMARO DRIVING MUSTACHE GUY IN THE HALL! KEEP OUT JOHN OATES!!!!!!!!!!
The greatest travesty of all is Mark Knopfler. Dire Straits was a global phenominon for 20 years with a Dead-like cult following. Knopfler's solo projects, his sound tracks, his collaborations ... he should have been in long ago.
Eric B & Rakim???? Donna Summer??? And still no Three Dog Night or Rush??? What a farce the Hall is! What an absolute farce!
Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter!
Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter!
Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter!
Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter!
Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter! Johnny Winter!
and, oh yeah, Johnny Winter!
Johnny WInter YES!
Heart is over-due !
Real musical talent comes from America, cupcakes. Artists from your country are just a side dish.
As every Brit that reads your comment convulses in laughter.
"America" indeed has real music talent. It's just mainly in American countries like Canada, Mexico, Cuba and Brazil. Sadly, not so much the US. United Statesians are a confused, boring and failing lot.
Yes Rush`Chicago`The Monkees`The Carpenters`The Doobie Brothers`Brian Epstein just to name a few.
I agree with greg or someone no Monkees,Chicago,Brian Epstine*sp or George Martin???? AC/DC got in not deep purple or Rush,Styx? Jann Werner is a moron don't know rock if it hits him over the head!!!!!!
Heart gets my vote.
Heart, Joan Jett, Rufus with Chaka Khan, Guns n Roses, Red Hot Chili Peppers. That's my vote. Good luck to all.
RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH!!! What reason could there possibly be for not placing one of the most incredible rock & roll bands in the hall of fame? It's a conspiracy I tell ya! RUSH, you ARE ROCK & ROLL!!
Joan Jett, but still no RUSH, Kiss, Moody Blues and so on? Come on, it can't be that hard.
WHERE IS 3 DOG NIGHT AND NEIL DIAMOND
Once again, no IAN HUNTER or MOTT THE HOOPLE. What a bunch of crap. Isn't Cleveland Rocks the theme song for that city, and I wonder who wrote that....oh yeah, IAN HUNTER!!!!
Mott the Hoople influenced so many bands. Why o Why.
YES YOU ARE Mott is being screwed all the way to Memphis
No Grand Funk Railroad? Again?
I agree with most of questions about Tull,Grand Funk and Rush and would like to add, where is Mountain-was there any bigger or better song than Mississippi Queen or Nantucket Sleigh Ride back in the 60's?
Is Grand Funk already in? If not, why not? The Red Album alone should be enough to get them in! Raw, unadulterated rock and roll that inspired countless garage bands all across the country. Inside Looking Out is a rock gem!
It seems that a lot of posters know a little about their favorite artists but not many know a lot about a lot of artists. Donna Summer, while admittedly referred to as the Queen of Disco, actually won the Grammy for Best Rock Vocal Performance, Female, in 1980 (for Hot Stuff), the FIRST year is was ever presented. "The Boss" thought she could rock as he wrote "Protection" for her (and performed it with her) in 1982. Yea, she deserves a place on the list.
Thank you Greg. That really seems to be the case here. Music snobs. "My music is the best - yours is not." Donna Summer also started out as the singer of a rock band. She has "rocked" several songs credibly (check out "My Baby Understands" from "Bad Girls"). In fact, she has credibly recorded several genres of music. And she influenced a sound of a generation, ushered in the 12-inch long-play single with "Love To Love You, Baby," still remains the only female singer to have three platinum double albums in a row (Live & More, Bad Girls, On The Radio), is probably the ONLY artist who has had a single in the top 10 on a chart every decade since the 70's and, as Greg mentioned, won the first ever Grammy for female rock performance for "Hot Stuff" - which is far, far, FAR more rock than disco. In fact, her disco queen reputation is a blessing and a curse, causing the "put her in a box" snobs to label this song as disco when it clearly is NOT disco. Bless you Donna - I'm hoping and praying you are inducted this time.
I agree Greg, Donna deserves her spot. Her range has gone far beyond Disco/dance (Hot Stuff, The Wanderer, Protection-written by Bruce Springsteen). She should get it for 'I Feel Love' alone. Not only a dance classic, but groundbreaking in its use of technology and influence on electronic music to come. Brian Eno and David Bowie freaked over this song: http://rockstarlibrarian.com/?p=1037
My take on the R & R Hall of Fame is that is honors those who contributed to modern music...not just music that falls into the 'rock' category. I'm sorry, but if Madonna is in, then Donna should be too! There is a long list of artists who have covered "I Feel Love" which proves it's staying power and influence.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wh6heXgvek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDUBY8PLxk8&feature=youtu.be
My fear is that future HOF will be inenduated with rap & hip-hop artists, and that will just dilute the culture! I'd rather see "the hall" slip away into obscurity than to start emiting rap & hip-hop artists. They've made it clear enough that they want to be considered their own genre. "God bless" I say!!!
what other fears do you have ?
fears of fuzzy blue bunnies handcuffing him to the bed again..
Where the hell is Cheap Trick? I mean really people WTH!?
No Rush, Moody Blues, Yes, ELP, Tull? You kidding me? The place is run by ignorant Harvard-educated community activists.
You pretty much just ripped the exact words out of my mouth. ELP had more talent under their toe nails than most the nominees! and yeah, NO RUSH?? that should tell you something right there. NO Jethro Tull?? who's sleeping at the wheel here? Obviously this has ZERO TO DO WITH TALENT!
Just ridiculous that The Moody Blues have never been considered. Every year I just laugh at the list and all the glaring exclusions. Some of these 'artists' I've never even heard of, like Eric B. & Rankim. Who Dat??
What about Sol Zim?
Jeff Lynne is way past due.
@ I've given up on Jeff Lynne ever getting inducted. Just doesn't make sense to me!
Eric B. & Rakim? I thought I was fairly literate in music. I need Google...
Wikipedia:Notable journalist Tom Terrell of NPR referred to the duo as "the most influential DJ/MC combo in contemporary pop music period,"while the editors of About.com ranked them as #3 on their list of the 10 Greatest Hip-Hop Duos of All-Time."
So? Start a hip-hop hall of fame. No reason to visit Cleveland anymore if this is the crap that will fill the walls of the Hall.
If RUN-DMC can be in the rock n roll HOF so can the Beastie Boys and Eric B. and Rakim. It's 2011 daddy-o get with the program.
Donna Summer never played Rock n Roll...she was a disco queen ! How could she be a nominee in the Rock n roll hall of fame ? This is a joke !!
Christophe Court
Montreal
Christophe, unfortunately all that's required for Hall membership is a bunch of snotty critics who make up new genres and then pick the first two or three artists who defined said genre. The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame should be restricted to rock bands. But it's a bit too late now. It's kind of like people who call themselves part-Native American when they're only 1/64th. Anything remoted related to rock gets in.
You cats in Canada are getting a little bit big headed ever since they legalized herb out there, but keep in mind, you've decided to be completely insignificant in the world arena, so your opinion is still, as always, negligible in the overall scheme of things. Rock and Roll comes in many different flavors: You got Disco, Southern Fried, Hard Rock, heavy Metal, New Wave, Techno, i mean the list goes on and on. How many of your high pitched munchkin sounding singers, I.E. Triumph, Rush, Bryan Adams, Kim Mitchell have made that list?
Agreed, Donna Summer has no business in the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame, but that train has already left the station. She'd be joining ABBA and Madonna at this point. They need to rename it "The Popular Music Hall of Fame."
hey erich2112x- go try doing what Geddy Lee of RUSH does live. Anyone who takes this seriously knows nothing about musical talent.
Donna Summer got the nod because she sold so many records dummy. Thats what its all about, SALES!!
Erich2112x, seems to believe that the States has "contributed" to the world stage!! Please learn your place. It would be well worth you while to try your hardest to become more Canadian—choosing collaboration over killing and quality over pooyness.
Yes @ erich2112x: Ahh, Amerogance... Don't you get it? Nobody likes you guys. And what you imply being "significant in the world arena" is unwelcome in the world arena.
As a group, Rush possesses 24 gold records and 14 platinum (3 multi-platinum) records. Rush's sales statistics place them third behind The Beatles and The Rolling Stones for the most consecutive gold or platinum studio albums by a rock band.
Enough said
Get it together Hall Of Fame
I am not a huge fan of Rush, but those are some very impressive statistics and it is obvious on from the comments in this thread that they have many supporters who believe they should be in. Hard to argue with 24 Gold records, 4 Platinum records and a legion of fans. Put those Canadians in the R&R HOF. And the to make things right, put in KISS and Cheap Trick.
3rd biggest band of all time. HOF is a joke. RUSH has much more talent then most the bands in the HOF. HOF please select another of a band joke like Milli Vanilli next year.
Nothing more needs to be said
Another bogus list sponsored by clueless critics.
Until KISS & Rush are in the Hall it is impossible to take this establishment at all seriously.
Heart finally made the list but they should have been in there at least a decade ago.
Until the tyranny over the Hall that Rolling Stone wields ends the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame cannot be considered as anything other than a joke.
RUSH and Kiss are jokes which is why they aren't in there. Kiss is a phony money hungry bunch of clowns in makeup. Not a rock band.
And RUSH???? hahahahahaha laughable!!!!!!!
Agreed. Without Kiss or Rush in the Hall it is a joke. The have influenced too many bands, some that are already in. Joke, f-ing joke.
Outrageous! No RUSH, YES, TULL, or DIRE STRAITS?????!!!!!!!!!!!! The Rock Hall is a SHAM, a FARCE, and a JOKE!!!!
Absurd! Guns N Roses before Rush, Journey or Yes? Give me Def Leppard over The Red Hot Chili Peppers. Over-rated if you ask me.
Marry me.
Joan Jett finally!
What about Pat Benetar and Rush?
No RUSH? No KISS? What a joke this hall of shame is!
BAhahahahahahahahahhaaaaa
Small Faces were an amazing and hugely influential band who should have been inducted ages ago. Frontman Steve Marriott was perhaps the greatest British rock vocalist in history. Faces are a different band, not bad, but not worthy of a nomination. Get yourself together, Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they aren't the same band.
Donna who – shouldn't even be considered ...not in the same league or even close. Heart, Yes and some of the others not listed, Rush etc..should be on the list for sure.
Ha! I just posted the same thing a few minutes ago. Keith Richards, Robert Plant, Ozzy O., David Bowie, Jimi Hendrix, Chris Robinson, Dan Baird, Steve Perry, Bon Scott, Oasis, The Jam, and Jack White all listed Marriott as one of their favorite artists or an influence on their music. Isn't influence supposed to be the main criteria for induction?
Donovan followed by RHCP and the Beastie Boys
DONNA SUMMER, DONNA SUMMER, DONNA SUMMER!!!!!!! XOXO
Rock & Roll Hall Of Lame
Donna Summer Yeah Right
Where the Hell is Rush, Styx, Def Leppard, Dio
Also you people nominating Def Leppard get it right it's not Leopard
When you have a Hall Of Fame for Pop, Rap, & Crap then you can start putting some of those other names on the ballot
Donna Summers? Gotta have (big, sparkly, glass) balls to nominate HER!
Where's Rebecca Black? I can't believe she hasn't been indicted yet.
There you are. Causing trouble I see
No Ronnie James Dio!! No Rush!! No Rainbow!! Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is plain Lame!!! Beasty Boys?? For reals, it's Rock not Rap!!!
You must have suffered through temporary hearing loss in 1986 when License to Ill came out. That album totally rocked.
Sure Larry it was a good disc that was for sure but we are looking at all of there work as a whole and they are not there yet..
Rush as well as the other bands that have been playing in that same time frame have really paid there dues and the Hall just keeps passing them over. The Hall just lost everything with me now.
Point on
Kiss, Rush, Dio
I like your tastes!
NRBQ New Rythem and Blues Quartet. One of the best band ever.
You're darn tootin'.
I'm still waiting for Chicago Transit Authority to be inducted!
Exactly. Even if the Hall hates everything Chicago has done since the 70s, they had critical acclaim back then, and they sold more records than any other group. They deserve some points for being around for 42 years. There are so many artists of questionable merits in the Hall. Even those who feel lukewarm towards Chicago should give them a nod at this point. Not even a nominaton?! Ridiculous.
Here Here!! Chicago is long overdue. Their influence in their early years, their longevity (still going!) and album sales should grant them a nomination after all this time. Given the lack of other worthy nominees and seeing the drivel that gets in every year, I am not holding my breath.
If you took Chicago's FIRST Album, Chicago Transit Authority, it would take you about 15 seconds to hear that these guys are and were musical geniuses. I wish everybody would stop associating my hometown, Clevleland, with the fiasco concerning deserving bands not in the HOF. The museum and the city have NOTHING to do with the voting.
the most and biggest mistake of any hall of fame ,the panal knows nothing about al time music
Why no g.g. Allin?
The last true punk rock star?
Forget it. They're definition of rock is ABBA or Donna Summer apparently. G.G. is just a little too authentic for the tastes of the aging hippies that run this thing.
There's a reason why the HOF has to have benefit concerts from time to time. Its because the respect level for the hall isn't actually that high. Obvious choices get passed over because the voters believe their history of rock is the definitive history.
No Rush? Take your heads out of your butts! I would only pick Donovan & Heart from this pack. But where's Rush? C'mon! And Donna Summer? are you kidding me?
Question: Why haven't Sonny and Cher (or Cher herself) never been nominated??
Freddie King, Heart, The Cure, Donovan, and War. Just my opinion.
What about KISS, Def Leopard, but Donna Summer,,,,,, really??>?????>?>?>
All KISS has done was revolutionize the live performance and sell millions of albums. In the 80's, Def Leppard only sold more albums than any other artist world wide, except Michael Jackson. No big deal I guess!!!!
What? Still no Kiss? Are they for real?
Uh...Donna Summer? The Spinners? War? Once again this sham of a "Hall of Fame" can't get it right.
Don't like Black people, eh Jeff?
@Craig – Craig doesn't sound like a black name when you ask him that way.
What about Rush, Def Leopard, and Chaep Trick????? What the hell GunsnRoses before all of these???????Members of Rush could be Guns/Roses Dad's
I mostly agree.Thing is,Axel Rose is a complete waste,spoiled little brat like exuse for a man.I do like the band though.
Had to get that out of my system.
Rush S U C K S
Hey, what about the great Iron Maiden? No radio air play and they still nab a gold record and number 1 on the charts when they started! 30 some odd years later, they're still touring and tearing up venues all over the world! Loyal to their fans, greatest mascot ever, c'mon judges - take your heads out of your backsides and see who's still filling auditoriums after decades of great music.
why, Why, WHY have the Moody Blues never been inducted and are not on the ballot?
Why no Moody Blues or Rush? Because most of the nominating committee members do not like progressive rock, so no Moodies, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, ELP, etc. Only Genesis (who had huge pop success in the 80s/90s) and Pink Floyd (arguably not a prog band to some) have been inducted.
Come on! How could The Moody Blues be ignored year after year!!!
Exactly!! One of the most underrated bands of all time. The Moody Blues; great music, great lyrics and they have been rocking for so long. The rocknroll hall of fame is such a big farce. They just take a little bit here and a little bit there so as not to offend anyone. Bunch of crap!!!!!!
Got kicked out of a Moody Blues concert once for snoring. 🙂
Because Kurt Loder kills puppies
Genesis was only admitted due to their Collin's-era "pop" contributions, as evidenced by Peter Gabriel boycotting the induction. The RnRHoF COMPLETELY IGNORES THE ENTIRE GENRE OF PROGRESSIVE ROCK, despite it having pre-disco dominant airplay in the '70's. How can they POSSIBLY justify ignoring an ENTIRE COMMERCIALLY PROFITABLE GENRE? And btw, for you Rush fans, Yes paved the way for Rush, so they deserve to be in ahead of Rush. But Rush too, is also worthy.
I saw the Moodies last week here in Toronto. Great show. I would have assumed they were in HOF already. Who picks the nominees anyway??
Watching Phish perform "Watcher of the Skies" (rather well, I might add) to what looked to be a perplexed audience at the Genesis induction was a brilliant moment. What's more rock 'n roll than stunning the rock 'n roll community? The Hall needs to recognize more prog rock.
Rush gets screwed over again!
Yes, where is RUSH??? It's unbelievable!
Exactly! My very first thought as well.
I agree, Rush should have been in there a long time ago. But at least they got a star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and are still the best rock band ever!
I don't even care about the rock and Roll Hall of Fame any more if they keep passing over a group like Rush after all of these years. Its a shame...... I love some of the groups/bands that they picked but man are you kidding me!!
Someone needs to start a people choice hall of fame these guys have just lost it in my book.
totally!!! this hall of fame is a complete joke now. 40 years and not even a nomination!!!!
Absolutely amazing how they keep overlooking Rush. Seriously, even if you're not a fan of Rush, just turn on any classic rock radio station on any given day across the country and there at least 10 classic Rush songs in heavy rotation. And that's just their "popular" songs. They are about to celebrate their 40th anniversary in 2014 and are finishing up their 19th full-length studio album to be released next spring and are still a major concert draw.
Seriously...WTH?
At least the guys have a sense of humor about it....Neil, Geddy & Alex all say "We're too young for the RRHOF" =) I gave up after they inducted ABBA last year. Idiots.
What is up with Rush getting passed up...again! Ask fans, ask professional artists and they will agree this is wrong.
Rush–The anti-blues.
Yep, Eric B & Rakim are much more "rock n roll" than Rush. Riiiiiight.
I agree 100%. Saw Rush live in June and was totally blown out of the water. I don't get it!!! Send me a ballot please?
Saw Rush live in June and was totally blown out of the water. I don't get it!!! Send me a ballot please?
Rush, if you are ever nominated to the Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame, please turn it down. After years of the hall snubbing you, you should snub the hall. Anyway, you're too good for that pathetic joke.
I'm sorry, but wasn't Rush all the rage for the show Freaks&Geeks? And in the movie, the Holy Trinity of Rock and Roll, played for Paul Rudd and Jason Segall in I Love You, Man!? Geddy Lee once said "It's not everyday you can play music with your best friend since grade 8." Neil Peart, the spokesperson for people with Asperger's Syndrome, has been cranking out the best lyrics and beats since he was a teen-ager! This band is the greatest! They were loyal to Neil Peart during the horrific tragedies of his life. They stood along side each other like friends do. What has to happen to let this band in the RRHOF? Oh, we have to do a simultaneous flip the bird at Cleveland during the induction ceremony. F*** the RRHOF and Guns 'n' Roses!!!!
If you can get through "Hemispheres" without feeling like you've walked into a music store where a bunch of kids are trying out the synthesizers all at the same time, You're a better man than I.
The reason that Rush (and other obvious choices) has not been inducted into the RRHOF is that it's director (and board) do not like them (or any other prog-rock acts). They continue to induct non-Rock N' Roll acts (Madonna, Run DMC and now Donna Summer), but overlook one of the greatest rock bands of all time. I'm not going to pretend that Rush is a universally liked band. They are not and many loathe them. But they are undeniably one of the most talented and gifted artists of their time. Their fans are some of the most die-hard that you will find. How often do you find a 40 year old band that is still filling up amphitheaters on a regular basis and still putting out meaningful music?
As a lifelong Rush fan, I am thrilled to see the size of this thread full of passionate fans. But I'm actually happy they didn't get nominated, and I hope they never will. Getting inducted would be like everything opposite of what the band is about. The RRHOF is a joke, and getting nominated has no legitimacy, it's basically the music industry giving an award to THEMSELVES. If you want to see evidence of Rush's legitimacy, just go see them on tour – every show always sold out, and they don't need tons of airplay or marketing to do it. They just make really good music. They're too good to ignore, and for the RRHOF to do so says more about the RRHOF than Rush. We know the truth, and that's what matters. Thank you, Rush, for doing what you do. I'll see you next tour.
Rush wrote the RRHF and asked them to not bother. It boils down the slobs at Rolling Stone magazine who don't like their style of music.
No RUSH again? What idiots! Who else has been around as long as they have been? Not too many.....Wow.... what a joke!
Wow, The only reason I even look at the R&R hof is to see if RUSH is nominated. Again I'm dissapointed. The R&R hof is a load of bullcrap and untill they are in I won't even pay attention. These 2 of the 3 members of Rush are in the top 5 musians at there craft. What A BUNCH OF BS.
Those 500 judges are in for some tough choices. My five would be Heart, Donovan, The Cure, War and The Red Hot Chilli Peppers.
We all have our opinions, god know mine contradict yours, but i cant understand how all of these bands/performers are not inducted. 500 voters cannot possibly encompass the broader fan base any of these bands possess. Its simply retarded (no offense to the mentally challenged) and insane (no offense to the mentally insane) that anyone takes the hard rock hall or fame seriously, (no offense to any hard rock hall of fame'ers)
Office Drone, at least you and I are in agreement - those would be my five picks. If only we were among those 500 voters!
My picks as well, with WAR being the front runner. WAR has combined all music genres, including rock to create their own sound. They still stand in the forefront of the music scene with their iconic song 'LOWRIDER' being used left and right in commercials, movies, covered and sampled by numerous bands, including the Beastie Boys. (if they get in instead of WAR, I think I will have to shoot myself). Their other iconic, timeless and sociallly concious song,"Why Can't We Be Friends?" is used by everyone as well and is just as popular today, as it was in 1975 when they created it. As for the rock aspect of being worthy to be on this list, they are more than worthy with their songs, 'Spill The Wine', Tobacco Road' and most other songs with Eric Burdon. Don't forget 'Slippin' Into Darkness' (which Bob Marley got his riff for Get Up, Stand Up from), 'Four Cornered Room', 'The World Is A Ghetto', 'Cisco Kid'. WAR was the last band to jam with the legendary Jimi Hendrix the night before he died. Now you don't kick it with Jimi Hendrix if you don't have some kind of rock & roll in you. WAR has finally been nominated after 40 years of great music and they deserve a vote even if you're not an absolute WAR fan like me.
Really!!! DIre Straits not on the list... what a joke thehall of fame is
Where's Jethro Tull? Where's Yes? Where's Curtis Mayfield? Where's Pink Floyd?
Pink Floyd and Curtis Mayfield got in years ago.
If I have to listen to that guitar solo on 'Sultans Of Swing' even one more time I think i'm going to kill myself.
Donna Summer! It's about time! Yes!
I thought for sure 2012 was Rush's induction year (just a scant 100 years before the year 2112, which ironically is probably the year they might actually get inducted). I am still astounded that so many prog-rock bands have been overlooked: Rush, Jethro Tull, Kansas, Manfred Mann's Earth Band, Kansas, Yes, Styx, Journey. And the band who started the glam-rock era-KISS, omitted? Some of the other bands listed above are also equally viable candidates. What do these bands have to do to prove they're worthy? When will the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame listen to the people for a change instead of letting politics dictate their decisions?
Actually Chuck, Bowie started glam rock before Kiss–wasn't Ziggy Stardust released in '71? But KISS did take it to new levels.
Jethro Tull's absence invalidates this Hall of Fame.
Tull's snubbing is merely payback for them beating out Metallica for the first ever "Heavy Metal" Grammy.
Jethro Tull! Rush! 🙁
No Cheap Trick!!!!!!!! Beastie Boys????????? I can't figure this one out
I suggest this list of rock musicians is comprised of some sort of music politics. Its about $$ THE MONEY $$, or something related, NOT the inductees' influence on music in general! The omission of one group alone indicates this: THE MOODY BLUES. This fact causes me to discredit the process of who gets inducted. FUGGEDDABOUDDID!
It's actually a good think that Rush, Dire Straits, The Moodys, etc didn't get nominated.
Who would want to be in the same list of these crappy nominees? Except G&R and The Cure.
ah, Cliff, I believe the Glam Rock thing began with Marc Bolan (T Rex), not Bowie
Rush, Deep Purple and Ted Nugent!!!!
Dire Straits= embarrassing omission. Steve Ray Vaughan is another.
The RRHF was a joke the day they created it, they don't even induct people in Cleveland at the Museum. They hold the celebratory events in NY. Their nomination lists, a blithering bad joke almost every year. Might as well induct the RRHF into the Meaningless Sham Hall of Fame.
where in the hell is chicago!!!!billboards number six all time artist
where in the hell is chicago!!!!billboards number six all time artist in the past 50 years
Some of the greatest bands ever, Thin Lizzy, Kiss, Deep Purple Rush, are not in the RRHoF so the whole idea of the HoF is invalid. I am from Cleveland and I go back every year or two but I will never go until these omissions are corrected. It's the Rock and Roll Hall of fame. The Beastie Boys, Madonna (in last year) and many others are pop music not rock music.
mark k is awesome. Their song romeo n Juliet is one of the best ever.
"Glam Rock thing began with Marc Bolan (T Rex), not Bowie"
Some would argue that the New york Dolls started glam in '71. Coincidentally, they are not in the Hall either.
No one gets my vote until Warren Zevon is in the Hall of Fame. His recognition is long overdue, and the lack of nomination leaves the HoF with zero credibility.
What about RUSH??
Chicago is screwed again. What does a band have to do? Given the crap they're scraping off the bottom of the barrel the past few years, Chicago is heads-and-tails above any of them. Even if you didn't like anything they did after Terry Kath died, the first 10 albums were incredible and drew critical acclaim. 42 years and still going strong even with all of the changes in the rhythm section. They deserve this more than any American Band out there. Stop this injustice now.
I respect the Rush lobbyists but where are my fellow Yes fans. In the recently-completed Q-104.3 New York top Rock and Roll songs of All-Time as voted by the listeners, Yes had six songs in the top 250. (Roundabout, I"ve Seen All Good People, And You and I, Starship Trooper, Heart of the Sunrise and Close to the Edge). SIX OF THE TOP 250!!! Jon Anderson's voice alone should get them in the Hall, not to mention Wakeman's keyboards, Howe's guitar and Squire's bass. Rush and the Moodies should also be in, but it will never be a true Hall of Fame without Yes!!!