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January 5th, 2011
03:45 PM ET
Kirk Cameron: Dead birds aren't the end of the worldAfter thousands of birds mysteriously fell out of the sky in Arkansas on New Year's Eve, it was only natural that Anderson Cooper turned to an expert for an explanation. Enter Kirk Cameron. The former "Growing Pains" star β a born-again Christian who has appeared in movies based on the end-of-days-themed "Left Behind" books β appeared on "Anderson Cooper 360" to discuss whether he thought the dead birds were a sign of the apocalypse. "Well, I first think that they ought to call a veterinarian, not me. You know, I'm not the religious-conspiracy-theorist go-to guy, particularly," Cameron said. "But I think it's really kind of silly to try to equate birds falling out of the sky with some kind of an end-times theory."
Chalk it up to the public's fascination with doomsday predictions. "People love to find codes and signs of future events and see if they can decipher them before anybody else," the 40-year-old actor told Cooper. "But birds falling from the sky? That has to do more with pagan mythology; the direction that the birds flew told some of the followers of some of those legends that the gods were either pleased or displeased with them." Meanwhile, the father of six says he's displeased with the state of our country. "If America is a ship, it looks a lot like it's sinking β financially, morally, spiritually. It's frightening," he says. But Cameron isn't throwing up his hands. "I decided to go on a journey and retrace the escape route of the Pilgrims," he told Cooper. "They left us clues to get us back to the real treasure of America and get the ship righted again." Cameron will share that knowledge in "Monumental," a new documentary due out next fall.
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Wow. What has this country come to? I am a strong Christian, but I'm not going to go judging people because of their beliefs and I would hope to get the same in return. If this country is going to get through the crisis that's really going on, fighting like this isn't going to help. Since when did birds falling from the sky start a war about religion? Our country is a free country (at least it used to be) and that means freedom of speech, as well as religion. But let's not turn to bashing each other back and forth. Jesus Christ is my Lord and savior, but I'm not going to bash someone with different beliefs. No one is perfect.
Kirk was so HOT as a teen and into his early twenties. WHAT HAPPENED??? I had a major crush on him, was even going to marry him, grin. Than we broke up when he decided to go straight and date girls. Oh well, I'm happy for him, he has had an offbeat life to say the least. Long as he's satisfied with it, that's all that counts.
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Wait: he starts off pointing how absurd it is that "people love to find codes and signs of future events" where there aren't any, and then *without the slightest hint of irony* tells us that the people who do so are mistaken and maybe a little bit crazy *because they didn't find their codes and signs in the same place he does"?
Witch Mountain called. The mothership wants to collect those of us "left behind".
"...birds falling from the sky? That has to do more with pagan mythology...' Cameron said. Sound like someone is either in denial or tired of his own shtick. Cameron is placing blame on the Pagans, when it is in the Old Testament in his bible that holds accounts of Rocks falling from the sky in the book of Joshua. Remember, the 10 plagues of Egypt Kirk – frogs falling from the sky, also gnats, flies, hail, locust? Own up to the rediculousness you believe in.
let me see if i understand this. you think birds falling out of the sky and having to do with the end of the world is silly. however the thought of one man/being parting an entire sea is completly possibly.
Perhaps the birds were zapped by warfare test.
These events are likely a result of secret military testing. Check out my latest blog posting on this topic at ChatterMundo for complete details. http://t.co/wY4PkmS
It's pretty funny how none of these comments are talking about the dead birds. Ridiculous. You people have WAY too much time on your hands to be all flustered about this crap.
Apart from perhaps a situation in which they meet him in a rest area washroom, why would anyone turn to Kirk Cameron for *anything*?
Wow, I was getting worried. Good thing Kirk touched base with the Almighty and has certified the all-clear. All glory to Hypnotoad!
Stick to acting Kirk, but that was an interesting comment. Things are heating up as the turbulence in the earth so increased that Noah feared for his own life which tells us that this same pattern will emerge for us at this time. http://apostlestoday.net/
Well done, Cameron.
It makes me want to re-read "Left Behind!!"
This is yet another example of CNN's move towards being a television version of the Enquirer. Could there really be any reason to have Kirk Cameron remark on this story other than sensationalism. Why not discuss the matter with an educated theologian or possibly a respected biologist? Shame on you CNN AND you Anderson Cooper. This is just ridiculous on so many levels. CNN is quickly falling to a level par with FOX news.
Read Hosea 4:1-3 and take another look at this world.
Honest question; from a apocalyptic theorist standpoint, why are birds that died mysteriously in great numbers a sign of the impending apocalypse?
Great interview!!! Thank you Mr. Cameron for bringing sense to a world that is increasingly looking to their own understanding. The clear and loving instructions that God has given us in His Word are truth. Until 4 years ago, I thought I was a "good person" and I was okay with God. I was wrong. I had a very BIG problem – and a belief in Jesus is the ONLY way to fix that problem. "Truly, truly, I say to you, he who hears My word, and believes Him who sent Me, has eternal life, and does not come into judgment, but has passed out of death into LIFE." ~Jesus
Please Lord, help all these very funny, some mocking, some very angry people seek the Truth that can only be found in You.
This is probably the smartest Cameron has ever seemed... Maybe he's not talking to Ray Comfort anymore...
The dead birds were in more states than just two.This did not happen in Arkansas only. And it was not just the black birds either.Now I cant find anything else about it on the news.I wonder what is really going on here. Same with the dead fish. It was not just in Brazil and Arkansas. I guess I will stay tuned to you tube and see if people in other states are taping more dead birds and fish. I bet the media tells us nothing more about any of it. I wonder what the test results will be from the birds and fish.Some said no sign of any illness or toxins. I dont buy the fire works theory. Not when it happened in other states as well.
I bet they called Kirk assuming he was going to go all God crazy and end of days stuff. I really admired how he handled the interview. Regardless of what some people think most Christians are not nuts. I heard that same crazy talk when the oil spill happened in the Gulf of Mexico and the water turned red. If indeed such incidents are done by the hand of God then nothing we do will alter anything.
Blble thumpers, preachers, non-believers, athiests...this blog site has it all. This has to be a record for the number of comments on a CNN blog article. I have seen plenty of scripture and yeah, 2012 us upon us. What can u do?? Life your life to the fullest. Be kind to others and treat others with respect. That's my religion. Can't we all just get abong??
If there is no difference, and your Ecc. quote seems to bear that out, then when we die, that's it. There is no other existence to work towards and make sacrifices to. That leaves us with no other goal but to make this existence the best it can be. With free will we make our own choices and create our own rewards as well as a good deal of our own suffering. A deity is unnecessary.
Kirk Cameron, what about the atheist's nightmare – the banana. If you wonder, check youtube.
He is real. He is returning. Believe in Him now, while you can.
Um...what? An aging b-list actor who's starred in Christian fundamentalist films is suddenly an expert on environmental issues and the Bible?
Man, what temporal-spatial warp did I accidentally wander into?
Repent people, for truly the Lord cometh at an hour we know not. I say this out of scripture, not of myself. "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. For as the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered the ark, and knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left." Matthew 24;36-40. Mr Cameron should be well familiar with this verse, as he acted it out in Left Behind. Good movie, by the way. I also enjoyed Fireproof. No man knoweth the hour. I leave you with this scripture for all of you who critique or prevent people from searching God. "Woe unto you, lawyers! for ye have taken away the key of knowledge; ye entered not in yourselves, and them that were entering in ye hindered." Luke 12;52.
I think the Pilgrims are a terrible influence to choose. Some of the myth of the Pilgrims – things that are not historically accurate, such as the way their one-time Thanksgiving played out – are nice and warm and fuzzy. But in general, we're talking about people who instigated anger against themselves by being rotten to others, fled to Holland, sent religious and political propaganda back to England, then fled to America to escape rather than standing up for what they believed. When they got here, they reveled in taking pot shots with their muskets to scare off the very natives who were trying to help them survive. That's in-between forcing their children to work, killing all mirth and happiness in their lives and disciplining everyone and everything with corporal punishment. They kept indentured servants (read: slaves).
Our nation inherited their judgmental xenophobia and overwrought, phony holiness. We owe them everything that is wrongheaded and divisive in this country, yet the ignorant continue to venerate them. The irony is, in their world, Kirk wouldn't be able to get a job as an actor. They'd have stoned him to death for it, or put him out in a garden to tend cows.
The one good thing that can be said about the Pilgrims is that they were for the most part literate. But that was just so they could read the Bible and their Bible-centric laws well enough to know why they were being tied to a log and whipped.
HAARP and the mystery Of 5,000 Dead Birds Falling From The Sky -Arkansas:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3R2KBMIpOQ&NR=1
I don't care about his religious beliefs as long as he's not stuffing them in my face or turning my country in a direction I do not condone. But.. I will watch Monumental if it's convenient. Looks at least interesting. He's an ok guy.
BLUE BEAM PROJECT I : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pch4QtJFz24
BLUE BEAM PROJECT I I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlus7KnuVGo
HERE WE HAVE THE BIGGEST CONSPIRACY IN HUMAN HISTORY HAPPENING RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR NOSES:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPed-58KQ-A
Seriously, we're listening to the opinion of Kirk Cameron? This guy's a funny robe away from drinking the Kool-Aid and being returned to the Mother Ship. If the dead bird's can't be the sign of the end of times, can they at least be the sign of the end of Kirk Cameron? If you're quoting scriptures, can you really call it "open dialogue"? Wouldn't "brain washing" be more appropriate?
Put simply, dead is dead, no bright lights, no golden gates, especially not for these birds. On the bright side, somewhere there's a car not getting pooped on right now.
Looking 4 answers???
This is definetely not the end of the world BUT the beginning of it, no context... The end of the times is is the air, in our dreams, at work, in the movies, etc.
Apocalyptic earthquakes (2010 had 10 times more earthquakes than any other year from the last century), weather manipulation (weather warfare), chemtrails in our skies, holograms (In Norways Dic 2009), etc.
Whos causing all this???? HAARP, The Blue Beam Project and the World New Order, google it or look up at youtube...
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Your aluminum foil hat is showing.
You're way off...it's not even the most within the last decade.
2000 3010
2001 2722
2002 2682
2003 2716
2004 3344
2005 3688
2006 3730
2007 4540
2008 3896
2009 4028
2010 4201
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earthquakes_in_2010#Compared_to_other_years
http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eqarchives/epic/epic_global.php
THE FACT THAT MANY PEOPLE DONT BELIEVE IN EVIL AND MANY OTHER CRAZY THINGS THAT ARE GOING ON IN THE WORLD IT WONT PROTECT OUR ASSES OF ALL THAT.
IF God exists, he's probably taking a look at the shape of the world he charged is with caring for and saying, "You can keep it. I'm going to go check out the Crab Nebula. Screw the lot of you."
I neither like nor dislike Kirk Cameron but no matter how sensible or not he sounded there would still be a million hateful comments. That is how we behave as a society if anyone ever paid attention. After which we begin attacking other peoples comments and so forth. How far we have come......
If the birds died of internal injuries maybe it was some type of bird smackdown–only they forgot to fake the punches.
The real question heres is: 'How the hell did 'fracking' get the name 'fracking!??!' 'Fumes' from a 'Crack'?
Fracking involves injecting fluids into cracks in rock thousands of feet underground to increase the volume of gas collected.
Well now that we have an authorities word we can all rest easy.
Kirk Cameron is a jerk!
Go back to your hole!
Christianity, Islam, Judism, Hindu, etc....etc........
They are ALL man-made, i.e. Fake! They are all crackpots.
God has nothing to do with what these people believe. People made those religions, not God...... those books are written by people based on their Man-Made belief which have nothing to do with reality.
Yes, because Kirk Cameron *knows*.
Phew, now that he's said it I KNOW that God's wrath isn't imminent.
There are too many sheep in the world....
Death only has one purpose.
Religion hopes to change it to make one think he is above it. Or that a reward awaits the end of one's life.
Be realistic – the fear in your mind is your own fear. Accept it.
Thanks Cameron for that T U R D of a movie FIRE PROOF. C hrist I watched that with my wife and I was a bad guy for a week thanks again jack wad.
Thank god Kirk Cameron does not think the worldwill end. Now I can go to sleep at ease. No wait, I need Alan Thicke to reassure me as well. Why does this even make the news. Anderson Cooper should go back to Haiti to exploit more Haitians in need. Loser.
Those born again Christians are a real scarry lot. Usually they screwed up their lives so bad and suddenly think they better get it together or they are bound for hell. As if there is a hell. Kirk is a good example. Alway shoving the bible down our throat. Can't imagine what his kids are going thru. Damn, just live and let live. Before you try to jump on my comment THINK what you are about to write. And what ever you write be sure you can back up your comment.
In Zephaniah, Chapter 1, versue 2 – 3 of the bible reads as follows:
"I'm going to make a clean sweep of the earth, a thorough housecleaning." God's Decree. "Men and women and animals,
including birds and fish β Anything and everything that causes sinβwill go, but especially people.
My suggestion to you: Be watchful because terrible things are about to happen to people and places in the earth that has never happened before and will be unexplainable. You should accept Jesus as the Lord of you life before it is too late.
Kirk can kiss my "left behind."
Let's do some rehash about your god. Here's a link to the Examiner proclaiming that Jesus will return on May21st -2011.
http://www.examiner.com/rationalism-in-national/save-the-date-jesus-returns-may-21-2011
There's a few of you religious folks who advocate that you do not know when the 'lord' will come back so what does this link (it's from one of your own kind – proclaiming it) tell you about your stability in the reality of this world?
Your faith and your 'prove it to me' that my God doesn't exist is your own fallacy. Quit asking others who do not believe your fairy tales to support you. Asking others to prove to you is wrong in simply that if one is ignorant will be forever ignorant and deny any such offered proof. In order to prove something that you believe you have to provide the proof to yourself. Otherwise all you are doing is well wishing for others to help you. And atheists will not help you to find your fairy tales.
It seems you nut pots all love to spell out the "end of times" to everyone to coerce fear so that you'll end up shutting people up/ silence them into your head games. Well it doesn't work. It's your fear. We don't care how afraid you are. You're just being a nut. Your quotes of the ole good passages are crap. Your prayers fall on deaf ears, they are all ridiculous.
What all of you need a good slap or several across the face. You believe yourself when you preach that it is good. Well we all have our opinions, and my personal opinion is telling me to shut you up. And that's why your garbage is inferior.
At the second coming of Jeeeeeesus will not be news until after He is executed by lethal injection. Then about thirty years later, the world will discover Jeeeeesus already came again and the lethal injection table will become the new cross Christians worship.
Wow.
And can the last person out please turn off the lights?
I love AC360 but COME ON!.... No more celebities as experts!..... To his credit, KC wondered aloud why he was being asked about bird behavior and denied having any special knowledge about "end of days." He just smiled and promoted his upcoming Christian film project. Recently AC360, my fav news program, had adventurist Bear Grylls on to give his opinion on the mental state of the Chilean miners; and (unlicensed) Dr. Phil is regularly presented as an expert on all things psychological. Dear CNN, don't be so lazy!..... Those with specialized knowledge are out there! Find them.
Correct me if I'm wrong but if birds are falling, and recently we have seen eclipses and falling stars. Can't anyone see the sky might have started falling? All the unusual weather – the huge amounts of snow? Entire clouds have fallen – hello ooooo wake up time. Better hunker down. It may not be the total end of times, but I would like to know what do we do after the sky falls. It might be good to have a back up plan.
Mr.Cameron can kiss my "left behind." Kirk has made a career of the end times predictions , but on CNN he uses the exposure to trash the US government. Okay, we know the right wing haters are mad about DADT and a host of other culture war issues.
Matthew 16:4 (King James Version)
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it
The surest sign of the end times would be Kirk Cameron getting a serious acting job! Fortunately I think we are all safe there.
Phew...good thing Mike Seaver is on the case.
Matthew 16:4 (King James Version)
A wicked and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given unto it.
– Genesis 8:21 βThe Lord smelled the pleasing aroma and said in his heart: "Never again will I curse the ground because of man, even though every inclination of his heart is evil from childhood. And never again will I destroy all living creatures, as I have done.β
It saith in Jibberish 12:34: "Thus"
@Observer – I can see why you would think that God would never "destroy" mankind if you stop with that verse. Also, key is looking at the last few words of that scripture "as I have done" for more added meaning. If you read on to the next chapter Genesis 9:8-11 "Then God said to Noah and to his sons with him: βI now establish my covenant with you and with your descendants after you and with every living creature that was with youβthe birds, the livestock and all the wild animals, all those that came out of the ark with youβevery living creature on earth. I establish my covenant with you: Never again will all life be destroyed by the waters of a flood; never again will there be a flood to destroy the earth.β God will not destroy the earth again...by flood.
I used to look at specific scripture then realized that I was missing a lot of detail by stopping. The information before and after provides an enormous amount of clarity, plus reviewing other books and chapters are important both Old and New Testament.
This is not a criticism but an elaboration.
To be quite frank, I think that Kirk handled it extremely well. I am a Christian, but when I saw that they had brought in another fellow Christian to try and explain the strange incident, I panicked. I honestly did think that Kirk was going to blame it all on the "Revelation" and "End-Times Craziness" that is going on right now, but he didn't. He was honest and he said that he doesn't agree with blaming everything bad that happens on the end of the world. I can only imagine what someone like John Hagee would have said. I much prefered Cameron's intake. Kudos to him π
This is scary and now 2 million fish died, the birds navigate using the magnetic poles when they shift they loose their bearings, does this raise any flags? I read a news article where it said the ocean is failing acid tests and the world's temperature had a rise of 4 degrees celcius.
Don't forget the bird deaths in sweden, could this be something caused by the ozone? these are areas where we are actually noticing these events, what about where people dont have any presence or dont care and they are witnessing similar events.
I've been following up on weird events in the World, I suggest you do the same.
C'mon people. Anderson Cooper was just trying a light view of this subject by talking to someone who made movies concerning the end of the world. Cooper NEVER claimed Cameron was an expert and Cameron NEVER said he was an expert. He very honestly claimed "I think it's really kind of silly to try to equate birds falling out of the sky with some kind of an end-times theory."
I am not a Kirk Cameron fan and disagree with his religious viewpoint, but people should be RATIONAL and review him here for what he ACTUALLY said. Let's all be fair.
since when is Kirk Cameron an "Expert"???!?!?!?!?!
I was expecting him to come across as a nut job and he didn't, so kudos for him. I still think its funny CNN had him on like some kind of end times expert to talk about the death of birds and fish which he is not an expert on either.
Kirk Cameron IS the Anti Christ! Don't you see it? He's saying, "No, no, no, relax." But he's giving us a false sense of security in an attempt to catch us off guard when the end comes. He is a deciple of the devil himself! Do NOT heed his words!
What I find laughable is the weight we put in the opinions of celebrities. Sure they can believe anything they darn well please, its their right. But when the media needs an expert, it turns to Hollywood. Seriously. Like I care what Sean Penn thinks about his buddy boy Chavez All of a sudden, if you acted in a movie about Global Warming or a Doggie Pooper-upper, you are an expert in the field. Get a grip...
I want to know what Ted Nugent and Roseanne Barr think about all this.
I'm telling you, Peter Tork will have the final say.
All Peter Tork will do is say "I'm a Believer".
Never mind Kirk, just look at yourselves......scary!!!!!!!
Thinking you debunked evolution with a argument about "crocoducks" isnt normal, but on meth or creationism it is...
I disagree with Kirk. Birds falling from the sky, masses of dead fish, and now Lady Gaga walking around with no pants. This must be the end of times.
Kirk Cameron thinks the earth was created in six days...
He's a friggin moron, and a failed actor.
All of the negative comments, wow, however, look a the number of people interested. There will be a day when the Zealot's voice will be appreciated for what it was, "One crying out in the wilderness". However, it will be too late for many. Don't worry about the birds, just look around at the state of the world.
I used to laugh at people who said they were "born again" simply because it sounded funny and I didn't have an understanding of what it meant. More than likely, many of you know where that comes from but for anyone who isn't familiar, it comes from John 3:3-8. Nicodemus was asking Jesus about His relationship with God, when Jesus stated "Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again." Nicodemus was confused and asked, "How can someone be born when they are old? Surely they cannot enter a second time into their motherβs womb to be born!". Jesus replied, "Very truly I tell you, no one can enter the kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the Spirit. Flesh gives birth to flesh, but the Spirit gives birth to spirit. You should not be surprised at my saying, βYou must be born again.' The wind blows wherever it pleases. You hear its sound, but you cannot tell where it comes from or where it is going. So it is with everyone born of the Spirit." Nicodemus was still confused, "How can this be?" garnering the following response from Jesus, "You are Israelβs teacher and do you not understand these things? Very truly I tell you, we speak of what we know, and we testify to what we have seen, but still you people do not accept our testimony. I have spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe; how then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?"
Jesus may be sounding harsh but He was trying to explain that until one accepts the Son and the Father, much of what He was sharing wouldn't make much sense. We, as humans, can understand things that are in front of us. When it goes beyond that, if there is a spiritual issue and we are separate from God, it will probably appear foolish.
One who is born again accepts the gift of salvation through Jesus' sacrifice (John 3:16 -18), "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of Godβs one and only Son."
The reason why born again Christians (which includes myself) know they need a savior, "This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God." John 3:19-21
Most born again Christians are not extremely verbal to others. They do share the gospel, not out of an air of superiority (since most know that they are sinners that are no better than anyone else, nor "cosiners", lol) but because they have been instructed to share the gospel by Jesus plus they love others and don't want others to suffer the separation from God when judgment day arrives. Christians are to treat "enemies" with love and compassion instead of the way we would normally treat others who we are at odds with. It would be selfish of a Christian not to share the gospel with others as much as watching someone trapped in a burning building or drowning in a lake and not doing anything to help them.
Then again, there are born again Christians and others that are still fighting with their sinful nature when it comes to treating others with love and kindness. When a non-Christian attacks God, their defenses go up and they feel the need to defend Him. This is where you see those Christians retaliating by calling names or other "non-Christian" gestures or comments. I know because I have been guilty of that. Just because someone becomes a Christian doesn't mean that they leave behind their old habits. Even though they are a "new creation" and their sins have been erased, it doesn't mean that they will act Christ-like.
Kirk Cameron was probably asked because of his name recognition and his ministries that he has started and assisted. I was familiar with Kirk when he was in Growing Pains but I rarely watched the show. For the last several years, when I have seen him speak about his relationship with the Lord, he has appeared kind and compassionate to others regardless of their beliefs. Yes, he appears passionate about his faith but I haven't seen him mistreat others. He seems like a decent person.
While I used to find calling one self "born again" as silly, I now understand what it means. There is a lot more scripture that supports the reason for being born again and why we need a savior. If someone doesn't want a savior, they should not feel coerced to. As someone who freely accepted the gift, I had to read, reread and become familiar with other religions as to understand why Christianity is the only way. This is not a criticism of those who follow other religions at all. I am saying that in studying the differences it made sense to me.
Those who are Born Again are those who are annointed with holy spirit, and selected by the Father to be co-rulers with Christ in God's Kingdom. Since it's a decision made by God rather than by the individual, it follows that being born again is not a requirement for salvation.
Furthermore the scriptures say that the righteous shall inherit the earth, and receive the gift of everlasting life, and God intends to bring about "the end" to remove unrighteousness from the earth. But the earth itself will not be destroyed, as God has promised it will stand forever, not for nothing, but to be inhabited.
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@Actually – You are speaking from a pov about predestination. I am speaking from a different perspective as that God is omniscient, where He knows what our decisions will be but allowing us to have free will to choose (as supported by scripture). Predestination (Calvinism) is a differing theology that conflicts with numerous scriptural support for those having their own will to come to the Lord. Otherwise, Jesus' sacrifice would have been unnecessary if God was directing our paths. And I am not saying that accepting the gift of salvation is anywhere associated with the concept of works. Jesus did all the work. Being "born again" is a result of salvation, not the reverse. As far as "co-rulers" with Christ, it says that we are co-heirs which means that we will share in the eternal glory while God rules heaven. Of course, Christ is fully God but we will not be ruling in heaven; we will enjoy the rewards though. And maybe I am misunderstanding you about the earth but in Rev 21:1-4 "Now I saw a new heaven and a new earth, for the first heaven and the first earth had passed away. Also there was no more sea. Then I, John, saw the holy city, New Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a loud voice from heaven saying, βBehold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them, and they shall be His people. God Himself will be with them and be their God. βAnd God will wipe away every tear from their eyes; there shall be no more death, nor sorrow, nor crying. There shall be no more pain, for the former things have passed awayβ & 2 Peter 3:10-13 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night, in which the heavens will pass away with a great noise, and the elements will melt with fervent heat; both the earth and the works that are in it will be burned up. Therefore, since all these things will be dissolved, what manner of persons ought you to be in holy conduct and godliness, looking for and hastening the coming of the day of God, because of which the heavens will be dissolved, being on fire, and the elements will melt with fervent heat? Nevertheless we, according to His promise, look for new heavens and a new earth in which righteousness dwells." Now i wont really know until it happens but for the time being, I can only lean on the word itself.
@1jimmyhoffa – You aren't kidding, lol. I can be long winded.
to all you non-believers that's what free will is know one can make you believe that their is a God,that comes by faith,love and beliveing.I do believe their is a God as in John 3:16 For God so loved the world he gave his only begotten Son that whoso ever believes in him will not perish but have everlasting life! When you mock God your breaking one of his commandments.Have a great day I know I do is when I have God in my heart and in my life.peace be to you that don't believe,you are still one of God's childeran!
How did this tool become the spokesperson for fundamentalists?
The pilgrims? Really? Weren't they they ones that ended up burning people at the stake because they thought them to be witches? I honestly don't think we should be looking at the pilgrims for any kind of moral guidance on how to get the "ship" in its right path. We live in a very complex world from that of the 17th/18th century. They escaped religious persecution in England but learned nothing from it. I would look more to the quakers, who have a foundation in that part of our history for their guidance if any. But not the pilgrims, and certainly not a so called born again christian.
The HAARP project run by the United States is to blame. I cannot say anything else to make believers out of non believers, but at least if i mention it, you can find it interesting and look it up yourself.
Praise God that we have expert people like Kirk who know what God has in mind and can instruct the rest of us on what God has in mind. I for one would probably be totally lost on this planet if not for all the evangelists, catholic priests, people like Kirk, etc, etc, that are so much closer to God than the rest of us poor fools.
Come on!..... I love the show AC360, but their fondness for putting celebrities on as "EXPERTS" is SO annoying. To Kirk Cmeron's credit, he wondered out loud why they were asking his opinion about bird behavior or the "end of times." He was good natured and just promoted his new Christian film project. A few months back they had Bear Grylls giving his opinion on the mental state of the Chilean miners, and they love to drag out (unlicensed) Dr. Phil as a default expert on all areas of psychology, from bullying to eating disorders.
"retrace the escape route of the pilgrims"..... I have no idea what he`s talking about. Evidently I`m not part of the secret society.
"But birds falling from the sky? That has to do more with pagan mythology"
Pot....meet kettle
Well if Kirk Cameron says it's not the end of times, then we have nothing to worry about. That was sarcastic by the way.
Now i feel much better. End times expert Kirk Cameron says that the bird deaths are NOT, I repeat, they are NOT indicative that the end is near. Thank you, Captain Obvious.
CNN may have just wanted an excuse to talk to Cameron, or just to get attention: I mean, "dead birds" "Kirk Cameron" and "End of the world" are more attention-getting than "dead birds" and "scientist."
All the same, Kird didn't do anything wrong here. He gave some intelligent answers to dumb questions.
Are we all that surprised that so many of us are left behind?
God doesn't need to destroy the earth. We are doing it just fine by ourselves.
Giving a national platform to the actor of "Left Behind" videos and spokesman for the fundamentalist revelationist for what is happening to these birds is the height of American cultish BS! Makes us look like a bunch of retards. Thanks C*N*N
Notice from the comments how it drives the radical atheists nuts when a religious person is reasonable? It's the extremists that make any group look bad (This is not restricted to religious or non-religious people).
He is an ACTOR! What the H3ll does he know?
He just had to speak-up to get his name mentioned, just seeking publicity!
Sorry to say this but it is sad that Kirk Cameron who is known for his knowledge on the Bible is dismissing this as normal... or just mere chance. The economy, dead birds, & fish (which these things are spoke about in the Bible). For instance, the economy (poverty), plagues (H1N1, Eboli, Hanta virus), strange earthquakes, flock will fall from the sky & creatures of the sea lie dead. This is in the Bible as time comes to an end. So I guess I will not be listening to Kirk Cameron's advise. Still love him as a christian and a brother as I would being a christian but I disagree!!!!
I believe it's a sign that fireworks were being shot off the same time a flock of birds happened to be flying by. That's about it.
The world could use a lot more men like Kirk Cameron that are bold enough to go public with their belief in Jesus Christ. Loved the movie Fireproof. Bought it and have shared it with other couples to strengthen their marriages.
Facing the Giants is another great christian family movie.
I am a born again christian, I believe that Jesus is the son of God and that he died on the cross for all of mankinds sin. I dont expect anyone to believe what I believe nor do I force anyone too. I have faith in that. See, what religion has done and I will agree is that they try to frighten you into believing. Its called Faith people, those who believe and those who dont should not knock anyones Faith. Don't preach, spread the word in whatever you believe, people will chose what they believe. I think its amazing how many people will bash for whatever is believed, everyone thinks they are right but in the end, no one leads a perfect life. There are more things to worry about then dead birds. Telling someone to that they are going to hell is not what the Bible tries to say. If you genuinely live your life and show what you believe, you will be more respected, thought they may not believe what you believe, then trying to tell them they are going to hell, or anything like that for what they believe.
Excellent response. It sounds like you try to follow the Golden Rule. I wish EVERYONE did.
Great post. Thanks !
Well, Kirk Cameron is right about how the nation is sinking like a ship. There is an ever-increasing gap between the GDP and national debt. Our economy is certainly sinking! In fact, all the things that sunk Rome are happening now in the US. Selfishness, violence, focus on entertainment and sports, pride, and not being able to back money. History repeats itself...
Anderson, Kirk Cameron is a nut to begin with. He's been promoting creationism for years. Why do you waste air time on him?
Of course it means end times. What else could it be? You think there are coincidences in life? Ha! Life is full of meaning. Everything means something. Life is purpose driven if only we would stop to realize it. The new GOP congress should put all available funds and as usual the funds we don't have toward understanding these manifestations that we don't understand.
Possibly the first time, I agree with Kirk Cameron. Why would the opinion of a washed-up actor turned fundamentalist wacko be turned to as expert advice in the first place? The fact that I read this story and have taken the time to comment on it is hinting me to the realization that I need to find a better use of my time.
TO THOSE WHO DONOT THINK THE BIRDS DIEING ON THE GROWND IS ENDTIME SHUTUP BECAUS I AM THE ONE WHO DISCOVARED THIS TRUTH PLEAS STOP TRYING TO STEEL MY PH.D DISSARTATION I WILL SUE YOU WITH MY LAWYAR.
Thank you so much Kirk Cameron! I've been waiting for CNN too have you on so you could quiet the fears of Americans trembling hearts! Please run for President!! The wisdom, knowledge, and intellect that you posses would truly turn the damned nation around! Only you could have deciphered the signs in the sky's... ALL Hail Kirk Cameron...lol...
The Bible mentions that the end time would make itself known through a variety of natural signs (earthquakes, floods, drought, fire, in addition to signs in the heavens) – though dying bird or fish are not mentioned, however, this can also be a sign of man's ruination of the Earth itself, since the natural environment can only endure so much abuse, especially through pollution and loss of habitat...
SINCE I KNOE MUCH ABOUT EVERYTHING DOENT HESETATE TO READ MY NEW BOOK ITS CHALK FULLOF STUFF NOBODIE KNOES BUT ME B/C I AM MOAR PERCEPTIVE THEN EVERYONE
gee kirk...thanks for much for clearing this all up for us...we really appreciate it...btw...did you graduate highschool?
An unimportant man interviewed by a sock puppet.
SEE I AM MORE SMARTER THEN YOU PEOPELS I AM HOLLYWOOD AN CAN TELL U FOR A FACT THET THIS ISNOT END TIMES ONLY I KNOW THES BUT NOW I HELPED TO IN SAVING FREEDOM. PAY ATTENTIUN TO ME. U R WELCOME.
Oh, whew, I was scared until CNN finally got Kirk Cameron on the horn to calm my fears.
Now I can go back to waiting for Jenny McCarthy to call me back and tell me if I should go to the doctor or not about my kid getting Polio, Mumps and Measles.
So the explanation has been stated as being New Years fire works. My question is; how many birds fly at that time of night and why is it that we don't see more dead birds every 4th of July? Most likely a natural explanation, but I'm not buying that it was roman candles that killed the birds.
This is taken directly from the history books:
CHORUS: Joseph Smith was called a prophet / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum / He started the Mormon religion / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.
TOWNSPERSON 1: There goes that kooky Joseph Smith.
TOWNSPERSON 2: You know, he claims he spoke with God and Jesus.
TOWNSPERSON 3: Well, how do you know he didnβt?
CHORUS: Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.
CHORUS: He found the stones and golden plates / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum / Even though nobody else ever saw them / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.
MARTIN HARRIS: Whatβs this all about, Mr. Smith?
JOSEPH SMITH: Mr. Harris, can you keep a secret?
MARTIN HARRIS: Well, sure I can.
JOSEPH SMITH: I have in my possession an ancient book written on gold plates that tells of Jesus Christβs second coming, here, in America.
MARTIN HARRIS: In America, really? That sounds kind of . . .
CHORUS: Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.
CHORUS: Martin went home to his wife / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum / Showed her pages from the Book of Mormon / Dum, dum, dum, dum, dum.
MARTIN HARRIS: And, so, Joseph Smith put his head into a hat, and read to me what the golden plates said. I wrote it all down, and weβre going to publish it into a book.
LUCY SMITH: Martin, how do you know he isnβt just making stuff up, and pretending heβs translating off golden plates?
CHORUS: Lucy Harris, smart, smart, smart / smart, smart, smart, smart, smart
MARTIN HARRIS: Why would he make it up?
CHORUS: Martin Harris, dum de dumb . . . / Lucy Harris, smart, smart, smart / Martin Harris, dumb.
Why is Kirk Cameron interviewed for nonsense like this? Where is his banana man sidekick? I find it funny that Kirk went back to the pilgrims in order to find what this nation needs to get back on track... the pilgrims were probably the most religiously backward people of their time... and Kirk would have been whipped for not believing as they believed!!!
I just cannot believe Anderson Cooper and CNN would glorify such nonscense. makes me think CNN is not the news channel i thought it was! very disappointed and will be looking for other news shows to watch.
Don't worry crissy. Another story focussing on the trials and tribulations of the poor misunderstood gays will break, and it will be all about how straight people commit suicide because of mental health issues, but gays commit sucide because they are perfectly normal but persecuted. Or, another gay celbrity will have a child via a surrogate, and pretend not to notice it won't have the benfit of a mother. And the world will rejoice, and worship at the almighty temple of the glorious modern gay.
Don't worry crissy. Another story focussing on the trials and tribulations of the poor misunderstood gays will break, and it will be all about how straight people commit suicide because of mental health issues, but gays commit sucide because they are perfectly normal but persecuted. Or, another gay celbrity will have a child via a surrogate, and pretend not to notice it won't have the benefit of a mother. And the world will rejoice, and worship at the almighty temple of the glorious modern gay. Gay – its the new normal.
Forget some dead birds. A news organization which presumably has aspirations towards legitimacy reaching out to world-class moron Kirk Cameron about anything is, to me, a far more startling sign that something's not quite right.
For those of you that are against Christianity or think its a fools religions, what is this truth? Do you even believe there is an absolute truth? I also think that you are wrong to nock something if you are not a hundred percent sure it is the truth.
I agree!!!! What I find so amusing are atheists who spend their time and energy so passionately refuting something they claim doesn't exist. Now does that make any sense? What they believe or don't believe is their business, but it's too bad no one teaches them to respect other peoples beliefs. They probably act the way they do because they are content to believe humans somehow evolved from apes. But if that were true, wouldn't apes just be more people and not another species? Oh, I'm sorry, that would make too much sense.
@extrajesus: lovejesus apparently 'thinks that you are wrong to nock something if you are not a hundred percent sure it is the truth.'
PROVE that.
Someone please tell "Mathgeek" that I have immortalized his (or her) comment on my blog at http://gryphem.blogspot.com/.
What the heck? WHY would anyone think Kirk Cameron would have the answers?????? That's just ridiculous!
Another washed up childhood actor that found god to save himself from depression from not being relevant anymore. Now, he is an expert on Armageddon?
God does not exist
PROVE it.
Who cares what a "celebrity" says? Is he a birder? Why don't you talk to ornithologists and birders for real answers and possibilities.
Well, Kirk Cameron was great in the Fireproof movie. He just needs to study up on Bible prophecy to know what the signs are that show the end times. In fact that's what we all should be doing instead of getting caught up in popular culture.
People, read the article. Kirk was asked this because he is a born again Christian, and knowledgeable on God's written word. He was merely asked for his opinion.
I agree Sharon Kirk was just asked his opinion and he even said he was not really the guy to go to for the question. I am amazed at how many people nock Kirk as if they know how much knowledge he has or what he has been doing in his spare time since he was a childhood actor.
If he were knowledgable "about God's word", he would be aware of...
Zephaniah 1:3
3 βI will sweep away both man and beast;
I will sweep away the birds in the sky
and the fish in the seaβ
and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.β
βWhen I destroy all mankind
on the face of the earth,β
declares the LORD, "
...rather than saying that birds falling are more a pagan thing. I'm not even Christian and I'm apparently more familiar with scriptures than him.
No one is truly knowledgeable on God's written word; only He understands His true path, His final plans for us, and we are bound to leave our fates in His hands. No one should be arrogant enough to believe they know His true and ultimate plans for us, we must read and follow the Word with the faith that we only know what He allows us to and will show us all when He is ready.
The end of times has been predicted so many times already that you would think people had smartened up a bit. Apparently not.
True enough. Counting the most recently submitted date of May 21, 2011, and the other notorious date of December 21, 2012, this will be about the 5th time the "world has ended" in my lifetime.
Kirk Ca-moron thinks he's got a direct line to the Almighty. Now I on the otherhand know the truth. We're all doomed! Just read the book of Mormon about the guy who wrote............um...........the book of Mormon. John something, with the help of his friend, I forget his name. There's even a song about it.
My "U" key doesn't work right.
"My "U" key doesn't work right."
That's true on so many levels.
Kirk Cameron is right. America needs to wake up! He is right when he said we are going down the wrong path financially, morally, and spiritually. Check out the new non profit website "friendsofbenfranklin.org" . It is a new non denominational, non-political, non religious affiliated group dedicated to helping its memebers become better off financially, morally, and spiritually.
It should be obvious to any true christian/80's sitcom fan that Kirk Cameron is merely a false prophet sent to us by Satan to lead us astray from the teachings of our true messiah, Tina Yothers from "Family Ties."
No need to fear – the guy who thinks bananas are proof of the existence of a god has assured us that we're all safe.
LOVE it!
Does it give you some idea of how seriously the world takes 'the end of the world' that they would think Kirk Cameron is the expert?
Pretty much trashes the idea.
Why is Kirk Cameron being interviewed about dead birds?
*facepalm*
"But birds falling from the sky? That has to do more with pagan mythology; the direction that the birds flew told some of the followers of some of those legends that the gods were either pleased or displeased with them."
For all the peddling of Christianity that Cameron does, he doesn't seem to know his Bible very well. I'm not even Christian, yet I know of the passage...
Zephaniah 1:3
3 βI will sweep away both man and beast;
I will sweep away the birds in the sky
and the fish in the seaβ
and the idols that cause the wicked to stumble.β
βWhen I destroy all mankind
on the face of the earth,β
declares the LORD, "
So unless he considers the Bible pagan, he is mistaken. That's why a lot of religious nutjobs think that this is the end of the world, both the birds and fish are showing up dead.
Personally I'm more inclined to believe it has something to do with the drifting magnetic poles, considering both birds and fish utilize the magnetic field for navigation (magnetoreception).
Heeeey, now...you're making sense, and being reasonable. You can't post here!
This all W's fault. Gigitty, gigitty!
yeah kirk is one of these young earth creationists that believe man walked with dinosaurs. clear sign of solid education.... HAH!
"it was only natural that Anderson Cooper turned to an expert for an explanation. Enter Kirk Cameron",,, Who said this guy is an expert?
Since when is Anderson Cooper an expert on experts?
@Kate: Since when are you an expert on people who think they're experts?
How much expertise does an expert show expertise on if an expert could show expertise?
Notice how the ones who post here stating that they do not believe in God or Christ or put down christian beliefs are the very ones who are harsh and insulting and disrespectful in their wording. Why is that? Makes you wonder. It seems that there IS a difference between the godly and the godless.
Notice that it is the believers who want to force their beliefs on other people, tell people that they deserve to spend eternity in hell, and deny equal rights to their fellow human beings who have done nothing against them.
Yes, there is a difference. It seems that the nonbelievers do much better applying the Golden Rule that so many hypocritical Christians ignor.
I disagree; more often it's Christians telling us we're going to hell and they are glad and will celebrate when we are dead and they hope our families starve.
What I find amusing is the fact that this article was about birds dying in midair and falling out of the sky, but all the comments seem to be religion based just because a religious person was interviewed about it. Let christians be christians and nonbelievers be nonbelievers....none of this matters when trying to find out why they birds died in the first place. It was probably some college kids, in over their heads, creating some sort of device, like an EMP that was too much for the birds to handle. Autopsies said they died of "external blows" and "internal bleeding". Man caused this. Not God. Lets stay on the topic at hand....dead birds...not religion.
I am surprised by the number of people on here referring to this guy as a "religious nut" or something similiar. He simply believes in what is one of the world's largest religions.... doesn't commit hate crimes in the name of his faith... doesn't lobby for laws for everyone to embrace his beliefs... just expresses his own. Does that make each of us posting on here some kind of "nut"?
He waylays teenagers in shopping malls and confuses them with sophistry into agreeing with his hateful weird cult stuff, then edits the interview so they seem convinced.
I always knew that Cooper had a sense of humor, although I would have appreciated his interviewing someone with an actual background in environmental science or zoology rather than some religious propagandist. Good for a laugh though. Shows the idiots up for what they are. I suppose he's just taking after Edward R. Murrow, who took flak for interviewing celebrities at a time when A-list reporters were supposed to...report! Carry on, Anderson!
The Buy Bull is a fraud written by shepherds hundreds of years ago. A more likely cause is religious idiots poisoning the animals for terrorism' sake. Or maybe cell phone towers spewing radiation. Religion brainwashes most people to believe
in nonsense while they are children. It's time to grow up.
Are Kirk and Anderson dating now?
I'm so glad that Kirk Cameron could clear that up for us.
Yes, Kirk Cameron good thing you were available for comment... whew wth do scientists and autopsies know?!
This also in Growing Pains sucked!
"Growing Pains sucked!" Where's the LIKE button?
I dont think theres's anything wrong with what Kirk Cameron is saying or doing. He's a religious, smart, and a family man.. career is kind of dead but he's not your typical Hollywood idiot. Not sure why this made CNN.com. I agree that the dead birds have nothing to do with God or the apocolypse.
Amazing number of the know-nothing "End Times" idiots.
There is an old book called THE BOOK OF THE DAMNED by Charles Fort that tells about fish, birds, and frogs falling from the sky. Once it rained blood.
No, no no. Someone on a United Airlines flight had a kidney infection, that's all.
Oh thank you so much Cameron for clarifying all of this for me. After the moon dissappeared a few weeks ago I thought we had done something to made the Gods angry.....
We know for a fact the Birds were the result of Tornadoes. Just look at firsthandweather.com
Actually dead birds are an omen. They do not however reflect the impending doom of the apocolypse. Actually the only true sign of the apocolypse is the utter and complete rejection of Christ, Firstly because he isn't the embodiment of the embellishment of a man named Jesus, Secondly because the bible has tainted the simple and obvious character of God with false and human desires, And lastly because people will always deny obvious logic whenever it neither gives them advantage or reinforces them in the beleif that they are right. Looks to me like the apocolypse is something that is not just earned. Not something that is an abritarily designated as vengence for the rejection of virtue and divine understanding or a final solution to the evil desires of worldly men. It may actually be all in one. Flipping you people the bird is just a drop in the bucket.
Schwew!!! I was worried at first but since Kirk says we are ok now I am good. Thanks CNN.
I'm going to wait and see what Peter Tork says.
What would you expect Peter Tork to say other than "I'm A Believer"?
Smart guy. But why was Cooper going to him for answers about this? Actually, why do any reporters turn to celebrities for "insight" into important matters. Just because you've been in movies or tv shows or have multiplatinum albums doesn't mean you know diddly squat more about anything (other than the entertainment industry) than any other average joe. Unfortunately, not everyone gets this, which is why articles like this keep getting published. Some people really value celebrity opinions and allow them to sway their own opinions.
maybe he's right need to have a veterinarian look at the birds, but then again there's been earthquakes in a lot of places that normally don't have earthquakes like Nebraska Indiana who knows what's going on. Maybe it's our government maybe they have a new weather machine who knows
Psalm 14:1-3 The fool says in his heart, "There is no God." They are corrupt, they do abominable deeds, there is none that does good. The LORD looks down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there are any that act wisely, that seek after God. They have all gone astray, they are all alike corrupt; there is none that does good, no, not one.
Ezekiel 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
The Bible also says that a guy who wants to marry a virgin only has to force intercourse and she will have to marry him.
So what is your point?
I'm pretty sure that God is coming for you, and he's not happy with your crap.
To Observer;
"The Bible also says that a guy who wants to marry a virgin only has to force intercourse and she will have to marry him."
Please supply all of us with chapter AND verse regarding your above claim so we can all reference it. Please don't say you don't know where it is, that's why we all have Google. Your claim is unfounded.
You know, the Bible has a bunch of verses and they all add up to this: "God is not available, but please leave a message and a lot of money, and the first available representative will take your call."
– Deuteronomy 22: 28 βIf a man happens to meet a virgin who is not pledged to be married and r@pes her and they are discovered, he shall pay the girl's father fifty shekels of silver. He must marry the girl, for he has violated her. He can never divorce her as long as he lives.β
Looks like Observer knows the Bible a little better than you do, after all.
Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes and clever in their own sight. Isaiah, 5:21
We must be near the end if CNN is asking Cameron for his opinion on bird death.
i don't need to be a global citizen
because i'm blessed by nationality
i'm member of a growing populace
we enforce our popularity
there are things that
seem to pull us under
and there are things
that drag us down
but there's a power
and a vital presence
thats lurking all around
we've got the american Jesus
see him on the interstate
we've got the american Jesus
he helped build the
president's estate
i feel sorry
for the earth's population
'cuz so few
live in the U.S.A.
at least the foreigners
can copy our morality
they can visit but they cannot stay
only precious few
can garner the prosperity
it makes us walk
with renewed confidence
we've got a place to go when we die
and the architect resides right here
we've got the american Jesus
overwhelming millions every day
(exercising his authority)
he's the farmers barren fields
the force the army wields
the expession in the faces
of the starving children
the power of the man
he's the fuel that drives the clan
he's the motive and conscience
of the murderer
he's the preacher on t.v.
the false sincerity
the form letter that's written
by the big computers
he's the nuclear bombs
and the kids with no moms
and i'm fearful that
he's inside me
Even the most unholy loves him some Bad Religion.
Now listen.......there's this company called Cyberdyne Industries. They're all big into computers and robotics and sich.
Did anyone notice the section this falls under is "Entertainment?" I don't think they asked Kirk his opinion because he is an expert on anything, but rather to entertain us with his opinion. And honestly, his first answer, "I first think that they ought to call a veterinarian, not me," is where it should have ended.
Love all these repent emails! I mean seriously if the world is going to end and we are going to be judged; live it up and party like it's the end of the world!!! If I am going to hell anyway, I am going to shake what my mama gave me all the way to the pit of hell...lol
It's like a Monty Python skit about a deity who can only communicate by dropping dead birds. "Honey, the yard's full of ostritches." 'God must have a message for us. I'll go outside and pray to Him for guidance.' "Don't get hit by a falling ostritch, honey." 'Wait, now it's coming down parrots. I wonder what He means by that?'
You know, CNN actually did some right, by my taste, in bringing Kirk Cameron on to talk about the end-times... Of course, assuming they were set on talking about the end-times anyway. Cameron's been working with Ray Comfort for some time now (going on five years, I'm guessing), and the focus on their form of evangelism is a focus on God's law, and the eternal impacts of salvation. True, Cameron isn't a studied expert on Christian eschatology but rather a well-known student of the same, so perhaps there's still something to be desired here.
Cameron said it himself: "I first think that they ought to call a veterinarian, not me." If they were looking for an expert on what causes birds to fall out of the sky, he admits he's no expert. Moreover, his response to the main question of whether or not this is a sign of the end-times is pretty much the least radical thing said on cable news on this date. "I think it's really kind of silly to try to equate birds falling out of the sky with some kind of an end-times theory." To summarize, "I'm no expert on any of this, but, seriously, people. CHILL."
So, as no expert on the subject of solar mortality, relax: It's not like the sun's going to burn out tomorrow.
The 1st commandment is GOD IS ONE. Do not associate any with GOD.
The 2nd commandment is DO NOT make any graven images.
Jesus was a prophet of GOD and NOT the LORD. Jesus was a man. He had to eat to survive. GOD does not need food. Jesus had to relieve himself as all humans and animals does. It is blasphemy to associate human waste with GOD.
Worship the one GOD, the creator of Jesus and all of us.
Col. 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. John 10:30, I and the Father are ONE. Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. John 8:24 I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM [He], ye shall die in your sins. John14: 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, full of grace and truth; we have beheld his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father.
Yeshua accepted worship and forgave sins. He couldn't have done that us less He was, indeed, God in the flesh.
I accept confessions and forgive sins, so I guess I'm God. Rock on!
So if I made a graven image of Justin Bieber out of poop, that would be two different kinds of blasphemy, or maybe three? And you know the Bible never actually says that Jesus had to poop? Maybe He never did. Don't you believe in miracles?
(Actually, I believe the first commandment is, "You shall have no other gods before me.") You say the Jesus was a prophet. Are you suggesting that Jesus claimed to be God (but was not God) or that he never even claimed to be God? Perhaps you could explain why He was crucified and where He is now?
This guy knows nothing about Jesus and what he teaches. In the Left Behind books they have Jesus riding in on a white horse killing people. Jesus will be talking to him.
Pay no mind to this Hollywood bozo charlatan. Maybe he'll believe if a house falls on him? Some people are just stoopid. It's true, no one knows the day or the hour when the end will come, but when it starts, you sure-as-hell will know then, and it IS starting. Know one knows when they're going to die, either, until they have a heart attack or a stroke and KNOW they're taking their last breaths. Jeebus people, wake up and smell the Armageddon already. I even wrote you a frickin book and you STILL don't believe it!
Something needs to be said to both sides here. It is a benefit to us all to have faith in something. Whether you buy into one of the top 20 religions, or have a religion or belief custom made for you alone, it all leads to the same thingβ¦personal growth and comfort for each of us while weβre here on Earth. What works for one, may not work for another, but it does not mean that it is wrong. None of us know what will be or not be after death, and for some of us, this is scary and unsettling, so we need to find something to comfort us, to give us a since of hope and security, and that is faith. Have faith in your religion and lean into as often as you need, but please donβt try to sale your religion or belief as the βfix allβ for mankindβ¦history shows that all that does is lead to war.
Are you suggesting that there is no right, no wrong, no truth? We can pray to Jesus, Allah, Buddha, or Fruit Trees, so long as it comforts us? Scary.
It's obvious from the tenor of these posts that all people are basically good, not sinners. We're not the ones filled with hate and contempt–it's all God's fault. Obviously. Better yet, maybe there is no God. As the Nobel laureate theorized, perhaps aliens left a germ on our planet that eventually became you and me. Right. And you think Kirk is a crack pot? Why, because he believes the evidences of Christianity? Oh, I almost forgot. His beliefs make him a zealot, but not you? Brilliant. You probably don't even know what the word means, much less what he believes. No matter, live in ignorance and enjoy the bliss.
hard to say who is the bigger tool, anderson cooper or kirk cameron. guys, it's not a contest.
LOVE articles like this (though they don't say much for CNN's journalistic integrity) – they bring out the crazy people. I'm sorry, but if you believe the bird and fish kills are associated with some invisible man in the sky, you're crazy. Cameron is bananas. You would think that, in 2011, we'd be past these archaic, medieval beliefs. It's frankly scary how deluded a huge chunk of Americans are.
Why in the world does the media have to keep giving this guy and crazies like him air time????
I could care less why they asked Kirk Cameron to comment on this story. None of you should care because he is not the authority on Christianity or the end of days. However, I do have a few comments on all the Christians on here who are BOLDLY stating that non-believers are awful, that Christians are great, and we all need to repent or burn in Hell. First, I know several "non-believers" who are wonderful, compassionate, caring people. They are good to the bone, but do not believe in the Christian God. Secondly, Christians have been the cause of more murders than non-believers (ie; Salem Witch trials, the Inquisitions, abortion clinic bombings, etc.), and wars have been declared by Christians due to people not having the same beliefs. And finally, I believe I am a good person, I have faith that I am living my life as a good person and as such, I am certain that if there is a Christian God and he doesn't look past the fact that I lived my life as a good person but was unsure of his existence and he punishes me for it, then I will know that I am better than he is because I wouldn't judge someone for not believing in me. If the Christian God is what all of you Christians claim he is, then everyone will be in Heaven. Even us non-believers.
You are obviously a critical thinker. However, based on its contexual use, I suspect the phrase you're looking for is, "I could NOT care less" or "I couldn't care less." The implication, of course, is that you care more about anything and everything when compared to Kirk's comments. I personally find this hard to believe, based on the length of your reply. Ironically, though mistakenly used, I would have to agree that you could care less.
Every time something unusual happens, the religion-nuts come crawling out of the woodwork spouting nonsense from their Pack of Lies (bible)...what a bunch of brainwashed fools. Religion is a scam.
"Out of work child actor"? I'll follow Kirk Cameron as a role model before I'd allow my daughters' consideration of Lindsay Lohan. You'll see her come to her senses, quite possibly, and then what, she's in the same league as Kirk? I see, Lindsay is cool and Kirk isn't? I pray that she becomes uncool like Kirk.
The saddest part of your comment is that you use actors as role models.
you can't spell "beginning" or "sinners" – jerk!
Not that people will listen to Mr. Cameron, but it is disturbing to me that he will follow the Pilgrim's model of religiousity. I forget all of the implications, but it is a flawed trend in some Christian circles that encourages authoritarian church government or christian separatism.
Birds fall from the sky, fish die by the thousands and all people can do is try to slander Christians. There are more than 2.5 billion Christians in the world and the rest of the world seems bent on judging all of them by the actions and beliefs of a few.
The fact is no one knows why these birds and fish died yet and people fear the unknown.
Well, dead birds falling from the sky may not be end of day's, but Kirk Cameron appearning on CNN just might be the start. Should Phillip Michael Thomas appear on a major news network, that's when it's time to head for the bunker.
Kirk Cameron says the end times aren't here. Sigh!!! I can now check this one off my worry list.
Kirk Cameron is an imbecile and also works with evangalist organizations that profit off of desperate people looking for hope in their miserable lives... Find him on utube and read about the modified "origins of species" book he was pushing and what he had say about it. Why would anybody care what he has to say or take anything he says seriously?
I guess I should stop contributing to my 401k
Kirk Cameron is a blithering IDIOT – if you watch is ridiculous interview where he shows MORPHED photos and tries to convince the COMPLETELY IGNORANT out there that SCIENCE believes these creatures should have existed??? – I'm not a foolish child and it takes TRUE INTELLECT to see through the CENTURIES of LIES that is CHRISTIANITY – KIRK hold on to what little you have – when you die it will all be completely clear – you believe in HUBRUS and you have the NERVE to promulgate your ignorance in lieu of actually learning – as a former minister I can tell you what religion is all about my friends – – – – MONEY and CONGREGANTS and little more.
And the second angel poured out his vial upon the sea. The first calamity has been upon the earth; the second is upon the ocean. The second angel pours his vial upon the sea. Then the waters become red as blood and in the great mortality that follows it seems to John as if every soul in the sea was dead.
That's actually a pretty good description of the mass extinction that occured when the Siberian Traps supervolcanoe erupted for 500,000 years.
If you look at the definition of God, you can see that he is defined as the "originator and ruler of the universe". Why does the universe need an originator - a creator? Because, according to religious logic, the universe cannot exist unless it has a creator. A believer will say, "nothing can exist unless it is created." However, that statement immediately constructs a contradiction, because we must then wonder who created God. For a believer the answer to that is simple - "God is the one thing that does not need a creator. God is timeless and has always existed." How can it be that the everything MUST have a creator, while God must NOT? The contradiction in the definition of God is palpable.
They bible states in the gospel of Matthew:
"No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As is was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. For in the days before the flood, people were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, up to the day Noah entered the ark; and they knew nothing about what would happen unitl the flood came and took them all away. That is how it will be at th coming of the Son of Man." NIV
Quit beating up on Cameron. His biggest sin was agreeing to do this lame-ass interview. What he said actually made some sense, though. And I think his being out of hollywood and tv land is mostly by choice. Whether you agree with him or not, he's living according to his beliefs, which many people don't do because they're too busy trying to get rich or fit in. I actually liked the movie Fireproof, and my husband who is not an active churchgoer liked it as well. As for the "Left Behind" crap, I do not plan to watch any of it so I'll refrain from passing judgment.
Kirk is hotter than ever.
EVERYBODY CALM THE F!@# DOWN!!!!
KIRK CAMERON SAID EVERYTHING WILL BE OKAY!!!!!!!
ok that was funny
I feel better now π
They probably hit an invisible UFO. Why were these birds flying at night anyway? Is that normal? I wouldn't think so, at least not from my observations of birds over the years.
Essentially god says, "Love me or die."
So does my wife....gdi
If you want to see for yourselves why all thinking people realize he's a real nut job just go to youtube and search for "kirk cameron banana" and watch that video of he and his but buddy trying to debunk evolution with...yes, a banana. They demonstrate how god perfectly created the banana just for us humans to eat. But, embarrassingly, they are so stupid to not realize that the banana in it's current form is modified by man. The banana has EVOLVED into it's current form by man over thousands of years. What a d0uche!
Ohhh man, now I want to go to KPAX on that beam of light since our time is up here...
People just don't want to pay their bills, so they want to know when exactly the world will end.
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Really Anderson, you called an Actor as your expert?
Newsflash. No end of times have ever occurred (we are living proof) and has been predicted enough times over the past few decades... sorry centuries... ops... millennia that it's mind numbing to think humans with any sense of history still entertain the idea (oh wait this is in the entertainment news category, never mind.... sigh)
Hey I have an idea why doesnt every one plan like something big will happen in 2012 so when it does the government will not be able to use your fears to control you into making decisions you will regret. Buy guns, ammo, food and water and store them because something wicked is coming in 2012 and that is blatenly obvious. How many of you know the Russians discovered a new Comet on Dec. 10, 2010? here is the link.
http://www.examiner.com/astronomy-in-aurora-co/a-new-comet-is-coming-august-2011-could-be-awesome
Now your ancestors told you that a planet would be here in 2012 and because russia calls it a comet and names it something else and you all believe its not Nibiru. Did you know of the Alien creatures found? Here is 2 links that will prove that for you as well.
http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l551/dayzed_n_confused_1/?action=view¤t=2012couldjustberealPart1-1.mp4
http://s1123.photobucket.com/albums/l551/dayzed_n_confused_1/?action=view¤t=2012couldjustberealpart2.mp4
I predict the current government will still suck...lets see if it holds true
The secret to our universe is NOT an emotionally-childish male-gendered deity with a narcissistic desire to subjugate human souls. Our realm of knowledge is directly relative to the technology we have at hand, this has been consistent throughout history and pre-history. Today's truth is yesterday's blasphemy. Belief systems themselves have changed and evolved as the realm of knowledge has increased due to technology. I fear that if there WAS any "apocalypse", it would not come from the hands of a deity's displeasure, but from the hands of human beings with fundamental, irrational, archaic beliefs that are "hell-bent" on a self-fulfilling prophecy. I fear fundamental religious groups for this reason...it's happened before, now the technology exists to allow it to happen on a FAR greater scale.
Kirk Cameron is such a waste of a soul !
LOL @ Kirk Cameron. Good looking dude, but wow what an idiot.
Why is this a story, have people totally gone crazy? maybe I'll look elsewhere for the news, this is just nutball ranting.
I think Cameron hiomself wondered why CNN called him. He starred in movies about the second coming not "The Birds!"
wat a sad thing that speling and propper puncshuation has been lost in this counchry
The day we start going to Kirk Cameron for religious advice and interpretation will be the true end times.
That guy is the absolute biggest rectum alive today. How has he lived this long without someone using him for target practice?
Forget about God, the devil, the end of the world, etc. I'll ask again – please go to this website:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13731573
Is it possible that what happened to these birds and fish is chemicals accidentally released into the air by the government?
That is always possible.
I think he's pretty cool. And he even said: you should be asking a vet.
Rock on Kirk! Can't wait for the movie.
Blame CNN...they called the guy. I actually thought he did a good job of pointing out how stupid it was that they called him.
Red winged blackbirds are people who have a 'chip' on their shoulders......remove it, or you will end up 'dead'.
Drum fish are bottom feeders.....never see the light of day.
Hey all you religious nutballs: If the end is near, then God needs to appear and just tell everyone what's up. Dead birds, bees, and fish won't do it. Knock off the clues and speak directly. Or cou8ld it be that it's all a bunch of bull? Hmmmmm
......Isn't the 'bee thing' (CCD) rather self explanatory?
Who cares what this nut or any other religious fanatic has to say? They dwell in ignorance
So now all of a sudden Kirk Cameron is the voice of reason?
What makes you think that he isn't a voice of reason? I don't agree with all of his religious beliefs, but I admire that he walks the walk and talks the talk. Good for him. I don't always do as well to follow my own Christian beliefs.
I think CNN couldn't find another openly Christian celebrity to interview, so they called Kirk. Cut the guy some slack.
Ok.. just so you know, every moment is a moment closer to his return. People get ready JESUS is comming!
Well....Kirk knows best I guess. lmao
I wish I was one of these omnipotent actors who could tell us what is what.
I wonder if any actual scientists will make any intelligent conclusions regarding what is happening just in case he's wrong...
Why do you ask an actor to comment on some thing like that, they like in a world of make beleive. They has to be a reason or not any reason why the birds died. Remember they found dead fish as well. This is my personal feelings that the Lord is trying to tell us something, but he has his own way of doing things. Everyone these days has done from bad to worse and it can not go on like that for ever, although some may think that. Maybe it time we take a step up, and look at how we are living and the way we treat people. I dont think we will know when Jesu Christ will come back to earth, so we should be prepared.
AMEN Sugar!
"Right on" We know not the hour the Lord will return, and of course the non-believers will put they own spin on this! Things has not be right in the World for a very long time, and it seems to be getting worse, the weather, the dead birds, fish and the millions of unemployed people, the hate and lack of love for one another. Who knows why the birds or fish died? The fact is that they did died and thats very sad.
!This guy might be the ONLY honest guy left in America.
Forget the religious aspect but he says what he knows and doesn't speculate.
Good for him!!!!!!!!
Getting real fed up with your typical mind that believes being christian or hearing the word "christian" is automatically synonymous with the definition of "perfect" and "can say no wrong." Face it, no matter how christian one is or how perfect you think they are, youre in dire need of being educated. No matter what path you take to achieve your goal, no matter how close you are to what you dub as GOD or no matter how much you don't believe in anything at all, your tongue, your differences, beliefs and ways of life in general will always find a way to upset, offend or annoy at least one person in the world – it's how humans are. So if an atheist were to say "hey, those dead birds were from a can of palmolive exploding and nothing more," all would automatically would start bashing and ridicule the atheist by wanting and thinking something more highly educated or scientific of them. If someone who believes in scientology said "i love my mothers casserole" all would expect something "stranger" to come from him or her because their belief is synonymous with being too "far out." Point being, stop being so "blown away" and ignorant when someone doesnt live up to what you believe on HOW they should be or HOW they should say something. For we are ALL fighting the same battles of life, and our imperfections that rests in all of us shall always be emitted everyday whether we like it or not. This isnt the land of angels and perfect harmony, this is the land of humans, and we are all thrown on it and we are ALL trying to figure out what the hell to make of it. Join us, you might be better off accepting it rather than sitting back pointing the finger and labeling people. Such simple minds!!
"f an atheist were to say "hey, those dead birds were from a can of palmolive exploding and nothing more," all would automatically would start bashing and ridicule " What in the frack are you talking about? The story's not about birds baked in a pie or a casserole or whatever.
Ask Kirk about this?? Anderson, cmon! Seriously? Did the ball hit you on the head?
Don't worry, everything can be explained by using Science. Who invented Science? Yes, you can now worry. You don't have to be a "religious zealot" to recognize change in the world. According to The Bible every year will become more rampant with unusual phenomenons. If you're not acquainted any too well with The Bible, ya better hold on for what's in store...it's coming to past.
I cannot tell who is the bigger idiot, Kirk for being Kirk, or Anderson Cooper for asking this fool for his take on something he knows nothing about.
I want desperately to believe that the network set it up and said "Hey, Coop! Guess who's here!"
Thanks for the laughs...all around people....all around
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The birds either hit a UFO's or someone is messing with the air or water.Animals can take care of themselves,unless a human starts to bother them. And it could have been a wake up call. Ufo's are Satans angles.Satan is also known as "the lord of the air".Read your Bible people.Evil is real. It is what we fight against.God will rid the world of this evil very soon. Poor birds and fish.
I hope you enjoyed the Kool Aid.
Poor weed...wasted on you
Are "Satan's angles" right angles or triangles?
What?! I thought Criss Angel was lord of the air!
They ran into a translucent U.F.O. God and his Angels have returned for the final battle over earth. This is the beginning of a new age. Were screwed
Someone call the Winchesters!
God is for weak minded people with no responsibility for their own actions. That, and the so-called missionaries spreading the word of God are some of the most unwavering, stubborn and blindly obtuse people in existence. The only thing Christianity preaches is lack of understanding, and guilt for everything.
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Do you still look like Ray Wise?
Ask a scientist not k. Cameron. Anderson, your a joker!
First off, Kirk Cameron is not out of work. He is much in work and the best work anyone can ever dream of having. Secondly, Kirk decided to drop out of the Hollywood scene, not because they didn't need him anymore, but because he himself decided to leave. As a matter of fact, he left right at his prime of his career. Secondly, Kirk would be one of the go-to people regarding questions about the end-times. He is very well versed and knowledgeable with the Scriptures. Besides, he did state that they should've gone to a vet for answers on the dead birds, rather than go to him to see if there's a link between the dead birds and the end-times, which by the way is very ridiculous and biblically insulting to have linked the two.
To Kirk Cameron: May God continue to bless you in your ministry of reaching the lost!
@Bold George (to an earlier post)
Faith is belief in the ABSENCE of evidence. Do you have faith in gravity? Or what about faith in the sun rising every morning? I would guess that no. No one has faith in something that is real and been proven to exist and happen. Through Science, we know that gravity is real (we are experiencing it right now) we also know the Sun has another few billion years of life left. The same goes with Evolution and the Big Bang. We have evidence that forms our truths around nature, especially with someone like Evolution. There is no faith involved when you have the facts.
The same cannot be said with belief. You believe because you don't have the facts. There is an absense of evidence.
AMEN!
Well, I can't believe what I just read. You know, I'm not perfect & I'm shocked @ the total disregard for the human soul here. All you non believers, who's name is the first out of your mouth when something bad happens? Or something good? Do I hear an "Oh, GOD?" You dont seem to mind calling on HIM when you want- y not call on HIM DAILY?
Maybe the world is coming to an end lol. who knows what we think about this story it can be anything , but im sure they will work it out.
Well said "michele goodloe"
Christians read the BIBLE and say...
"God is LOVE!"
Non-Christians listen to THE BEATLES and say...
"All we need is LOVE!"
It's all about LOVE!
Be good to each other.
Be blessed everyone!
Give me The Doors over god, jesus, or the beatles any day
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If these end of the world times "MORRONS LET IT HAPPENS" it verry well may HAPPEN to believers & non believers..."WE CREATE OR MESSES"...don't ya thk.
Gee I can't wait for Kirks special on retracing the Pilgrims path.
I am so disgusted with idiot celebrities, the networks need to display them and the publics love of their stupidity I could vomit.
The reasons our country is in the crapper
are TV, Republicans, religion, celebrities and the fact we are a mongrel nation without a unified perspective and goal. We fall back on ancient beliefs which are unacceptable and unable to deal with modern problems.
There is no god, no angels, no heaven and no hell. There is only us and we are not good. We are greedy, selfish, vain and for the most part pretty stupid. We need a wakeup call
Anderson cooper? I cannot believe her would have a entertainer for fb on dead bird in ark. Cameron main reason to appear...to pitch his new docu. Our news has, has,have
gone to the dogs!!!
Whats crazy is it also happened in sweden recently. same blunt force trauma. where next?
Reading comment I agree with dv, 01/05comment around ca. Birds have lived with us from a long time and loud noise such as a boom should not make them just fall from the sky. I believe more in they were deliberately killed. I lived in ark and on news 0105 showed other blacks birds perked on trees and would not moved, sickly. Black birds are very intelligent birds and adapt well in our society and for some reason (new to this state)they are being kiLled in groves.
GOD And Jesus are real and are incredible. I openly profess to being a believer. GOD loves and believes in you even if you dont believe. Smile GOD still loves you.
For all you people who claim the rapture isnt meantioned you sure lack knowledge. I Thess. 4:17 the phrase "caught up" is translated rapture in the latin vulgate. Rapture is latin therefore isnt in the original wording but the translation of it is rapture and the thought and idea is there. You also say Trinity isnt in there but even Jesus refers to three: Father, Son, Holy Spirit. Hummm three? WAIT Trinity means three! WOW what a revelation. As far as you people who say read chapter by chapter and verse by verse, you say Mat. Ch.24. Come on! You lack the basic of eastern culture and translation. To say Mat. 24 is all chronological is FALSE interpretation! Chronological order is a western civilazation thing. Eastern culture doesnt put things in order like that. They werent concerned with the order in which things happened but rather that these events would happen. Learn about the cultures before you spout off about things you dont understand. Not a Kirk Cameron fan but I agree with him here. Jesus is coming soon. Dont find Him (He's not lost or hiding) get to know Him. You are the ones hiding and lost from Him.
Stupid Kirk Cameron.
They should call a veterinarian? Who do you think is doing all the testing, housewives?
This is like a silly blog too, why did they even ask for his opinion!?
I see the word "nonbeliever" used to refer to those who don't believe in god. As an atheist, I do identify myself as a "believer"–I believe in science, reason, and critical thinking.
Anderson Cooper shoild be ashamed of himself.
That is why there is so much hate in tha world. People just can't accept others' differences. We'd like 2 think that times have changed,but they have only gotten worse! Regardless of Christian or non-Christian we all come from tha same place. Why does everybody have 2 hate and criticize each other. I thought we were supposed 2 love and value life or what's tha point in even being here??????
The sad thing is that a lot of people will be running to houses of worship and quoting bible passages instead of waiting for SCIENCE to explain what's going on. It's the only way the truth will be told.
There's a shadow upon the earth&a time of darkness near.But God's hand well be upon His people.Those that are called by His name and know Him.Walk by faith NOT by site.Trust in the Lord and move by His Spirit.Do not doubt,but Believe with all your heart.Stay pure and Holy that you may see clearly and know his will.Keep your mind free from sin that nothing divide you from his presence and anointing.For only in His shadow will you find protection.Stand in the Holy place It was for this time we were born that His Glory might be a testimony in you.That the world might know that His Word is true.We are to be a reflection of His light in this time.A witness against the man of sin&for the glory of God.The great and dreadful day of the Lord is at hand & His anger is kindled against the sin of man.His judgment is sure,&Many well be weighed in the balance and found wanting.But the greater the darkness,the greater the Light.Therefore let your light shine in the darkness&know He's GOD.
If God reaches his hand down to me, I'm giving him a stink palm.
It's a good thing CNN is interviewing an expert! Didn't Cameron bring the "banana guy" with him? He is hilarious. (Google it–it's a funny video clip.)
Humans want to feel special wether its good or bad
. The planet has an age over a billions years old" we are so Special that it will be over in our time.."Come on you people are hilarious . We are closing an old era and beginning a new one that's it! For example what it took Bill gates to accomplish in decades the kid who created facebook did it in a couple of yrs. Bill Gates is older that kid is younger. Moral of the story you need to adapt to the change of times. If your not moving fwd. Then your being left behind. So while you guys believe its the end of the world and Are ready to call it quits. I'll be thanking you for leaving my path less congested and people that are ready for different times like me will be thankful for the dead weighT left behind.
Chemtrails kill birds!!!
wow, i ahve read most of the comments on here and i am disappointed in what i see but i am really not that surprised. after reading this one thing comes to mind..... But no human can subdue the tongue; it is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. James 3:8 . this is what the world is coming to..... this has all been forseen. In the end times people will fall away from God, they will curse the heavens but i know that those who are faithful will be ok. WE ARE ALL SINNERS>>>> NOBODY IS WORTHY OF FORGIVENESS, THANKFULLY GOD LOVES US ENOUGH HE SENT JESUS SO THAT WE COULD BE SAVED!!!!!!!!!!!. God has no control howeveer over free will. The only thing christians can do is pray for our country and be ambassadors for Christ.
All yall nonbeLIVERS are gunna go sterrrrate tuh hell
Im a believer...but not in what most static-brained sheep believe in. Organized religion can take a flying leap.
Thank god for Atheists.
There is no giant invisible magician. That said, life and the universe are still "miraculous." As for the birds, there is a reasonable, scientific explanation...pending. CNN erred in interviewing a 'spiritualist' about a natural or perhaps man-made occurrence. He has neither the training nor education to offer an informed opinion on this subject.
Jesus hates birds.
Wait...so Jesus killed those birds?! What a mean thing to do! He's not my friend anymore. Hilarious to me how many bible-baters cannot spell worth a poop. LOL!!!
Omg! I am surrounded by total idiots. The religious zealots on one side the "I get all my information from commercials" and the I have my head so stuck up some fear mongers ass it isn't even funny group.its sad truly. My fellow Americans no longer stand for independence they are led like cows with a ring in their noses and it makes me sad for us All. When did we get so stupid, I'm not having kids that's for sure. Seriously, really.
strange things happen all the time,but birds falling from the sky?really some say fireworks and some say lightning and some say 140mph winds,for one thing who is going to shooting fireworks in a storm like that?the fish,100,000 all at once really? need to wake up people the day of reckoning is coming,maybe not today or next week or even next year but that day will come.WWJD
AMEN FOR ALL BELIVERS God would love all the wonderful things you done by taking you in the beatiful place called HEAVEN and for sinners dont belive cause youre also dum in the future you dont know whats waiting for you rotting in HELL....
I dont believe in he11...maybe you shouldnt either. You can still know right from wrong without believing in some religion machine that tells you how to act. Thank goodness for sentience.
I'm not certain why Kirk Cameron was asked to comment on the birds since he's not a vet...however Kirk is indeed a christian who has a relationship with Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior...Kirk is sharing the gospel as we ought to do...Only those who receive n believe that Jesus is their Lord and Savior, died on the cross for us, bore our sins, and rose on the third day, are God's children...through personal revelation is how we know n experience Jesus...read the bible and allow Jesus to come into your heart, you will experience His agape love for you...People perish for lack of knowledge...May you all come to know God...thx for reading...Peace n Love to all
Are these 10 yr. olds giving their opinion ? ughhh ! ! yall need god ! ! repent be for its too late ! ! grow up !
Yes, all u nonbelievers can laugh. But theres no dead unbelievers, u still can ask JESUS for forgiveness and to come into ur hearts. U can bend knees willingly or one day every knee will bend at JESUS. Are u all athiest blind. Dont u see, theres enough evidence that there is a GOD and JESUS, His SON
It is the end of the world.....dont you ppl know he dieded like 8 quarters ago???
Smells like a govnt cover up. 5000 birds don't just fall from the sky. They're testing some kind of weapon!
Same thing with all the fish that died a few months ago. One species of fish with thousands of them dying at one time. Maybe they found out Mrs. Pauls uses preservatives.
Jesus's banana fits nicely in my hand and tastes yummy.
@ mon:
You say there is no proof that Jesus ever lived. Historians, scholars, and scientists do not dispute that He lived. In fact, most acknowledge there was a man named Jesus of Nazareth that claimed to be the Messiah. The debate is whether or not He is. I happen to believe that He is the Messiah and cannot wait to be with Hm for Eternity in Heaven. I pray daily for all those who do not share those beliefs.
Anarchy! We had a kid walk into his school today and shoot the principal,and vice principal. What are they teaching?
Um, trigger control?
To me a sign of the end is that you have idiots in the US that follow as role models ho's such as Paris Hilton and Kim Kardashian. People that claims to fame is to suck a *****. and open their legs in video. Just mind boggling the fools that follow Kim Kardasian on tweeter!. That is a sign of the end!
Alright, let's cut it out already and take a chill pill folks. What's up with this concern about who's religious or not. Fact is, we're all here. No matter whether we're believers or not. Wouldn't it be nice if we all just could get along? On a lighter note... I got a new haircut today. Yayyy!
I find it funny...and sad...that you will all take what scientists say, with no proof except for a small piece of half man/ape skeleton, or a theory that the earth just happened...as complete truth and fact...but as soon as Jesus is mentioned...we're all a bunch of crazy people! Each takes faith! Besides, if I'm wrong...I lose nothing and get buried 6 feet under...if you're wrong...you lose everything! I'd look into what you believe and don't believe before you start criticizing our beliefs! John 3:16.
@DI,
There are thousands, if not millions, of fossils supporting the Theory of Evolution and no one is saying that the Earth "just happened"; it condensed out of the accretion(sp?) disk around our sun.
If you are wrong, you and billions of others like you will have wasted enourmous amounts of time and resources on a fairy tale or you will burn in some equivelant of hell created by one of the thousands of other gods that humans claim exist and are equally support by a lack of evidence.
Good luck on that (Pascal's) wager.
Isn't he Canadian? What does he know?
Taylor you got me laughing; not an easy thing before 7 a.m.
Jelly donut comin hosehead
/pass the back bacon
71 mon
Ugh.... Yeah he was, the WORD read John then read it again, yeah its a lot to take in but he is the Word more than once....
He is right on – the state of our country is sad, the morals and values that built this country are being over shadowed by political correctness from the far right. We don't know when the end will be here but we have so many living up with no care about their after life and sadly no care for their childrens heavenly place.
FACT: 'AND THERE WILL BE GREAT EARTHQUAKES, AND IN ONE PLACE AFTER ANOTHER PESTILENCES
AND FOOD SHORTAGES, AND THERE WILL BE FEARFUL SIGHTS AND FROM HEAVEN GREAT SIGNS".-Luke 21;11
ALSO "THERE WILL BE SIGNS IN SUN,AND MOON AND STARS AND ON THE EARTH GREAT ANGUISH OF
NATIONS NOT KNOWING THE WAY OUR, MEN HEARTS FULL OF FEAR AND EXPECTATION OF THE THINGS
COMING UPON THE WHOLD INHABITED EARTH.....BUT AS FOR US, AS THESE THINGS START TO OCCUR
"RAISE YOURSELF ERECT AND LIFT YOUR HEADS UP, OUT DELIVERANCE IS GETTING NEAR".
THERE ARE PEOPLE ON THIS EARTH WHO HAVE CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH GOD, HE CALLED THEM HIS
FRIENDS, OUR GOD IS NOT SLEEP....HE ANSWERS ALL OUR PRAYERS, HIS ANGELS ARE HERE ON THIS
EARTH PROTECTING THOSE WHO BELONG TO GOD....AS FOR THOSE WHO ARE BEING
DECEIVED BY THE DEVIL THEIR EYE ARE BLIND, THEY LIVE IN SPIRTUAL DARKNESS....THIS SPIRTUAL
DARKNESS IS PART OF A PROPHECY,"NO WICKED ONE WILL UNDERSTAND"-Daniel 12:10
THE END IS FAST APPROACHING, EDUCATION, MONEY, FAME, WILL MEAN NOTHING...
SO IF YOU BELONG TO ANY RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION, THERE MUST BE NO LIES IN YOUR WORSHIP
WHEN GOD SENTS OUT HIS ANGELS THEY ARE HOLY, AND THEIR WARFARE IS A RIGHTEOUS ONE.
THEY WILL REMOVE ALL LYERS AND THE WICKED ONES...AND THOSE CAUSE HARM TO OTHERS
AND THOSE WHO REFUSE TO RESPECT AND OBEY HIS MORAL LAWS.
YOU CAN'T SECOND GUEST YOUR FUTURE...
IF YOU ARE SINCERE AND WANT TO KNOW THE TRUE GOD, AND HAVE A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP
WITH HIM, THEN TELL HIM IN YOUR SECRET PRAYERS, BETWEEN YOU AND HIM...CONTINUE TO DO SO
AND HE WILL DIRECT HIS TRUE FOLLOWERS TO YOU...AND YOU WILL KNOW ONCE IT HAPPEN,
GOD IS REAL, HE IS NOT DEAD, OR SLEEP....HE HEARD MY PRAYERS.
AND DON'T WORRY, ALL THE BIRDS WILL NOT DIE, THE PROPHECY AT REVELATION 19:17-18
HAS TO BE FULFILLED" A ANGEL CRIED OUT WITH A LOUD VOICE TO ALL THE BIRDS IN
THE MIDHEAVENS, COME BE GATHERED TOGETHERED TO THE GREAT MEAL OF GOD"
FACT:
I would think youd be more concerned with our troops getting killed overseas and the troubles in this country...but whatever...
Sounds like a lot of bad things happen in this religion of yours. I like mine better since it doesnt involve all this pain, evil, and death caused by your religion. Mine is a lot less troublesome.
And it isnt FACT at all. Its words written about something that hasnt happened so its FICTION
All these signs they r in the book of revelations : READ IT!!!
These "signs" have been around since day 1. Earthquakes, tsunamis, greed, corruption, hunger, the Holocaust etc. Why are "these times" any different than "those times"? Every generation has a group of people saying "this is it, just read your bible and you'll see". Maybe there is no "end times" and the world is like the energizer bunny. It keeps .........
For all u none believers all I xan do is pray for u and just tell u how my God is soon to come back. I cant make u do anything,,,but have u ever stopped and realized that u might be the way u r is because u dont have Jesus in your life. I tell u if u just trust God and stand on his word. O Lord. What. A mighty , mighty God I serve ,, he will fix u and fix and problems that u have he said it in his word that ,, if u have faith the size of a mustad seed that u can make a mountain move. And I believe it so im leaning and depending on Gods word so maybe u should do the same and if not ill just pray for u,,,u know the best thing that I love about my God is that he loves everyone of us all the same and theres no little or big sin with him a sin is a sin and judge us all the same,,, and thats all we have to do is repent to him and stand on his word,,,. I want to walk through the pearly gates of heaven and would love to see u there
actually it is a sign of the end times- humans are not intelligent enough to realize that God controls all energy/mind/matter at will. Humans have been for too long in a world without Deity overcontrol- thousands of years w/o this causes spiritual blindness....and ohhh yeah BTW intelligence is not related to accurate spelling, spelling is a function of other facets including material memory which is UNRELATED to intelligence- I'm dyslexic and misspell frequently but have one of the highest IQ's ever tested- forget linear logic for a second and realize that Deity created the universe with specific design and intention...and can control all realities (even birds and fish) when it's deems necessary.
If god controls our mind then he didn't really give us free will. Really high IQ... Go to bed babycakes before you think yourself to death.
@Steve- you a re a victim of a common false belief in absolute free will- God can and does exercise mind control but only when necessary- the 'free will' you have iis not absolute but is 'limited free will' – and this is why people like you fail to understand the truth of Prophecy. You are becoming alone as a minority of non-believers.
So its not really "FREE"....
And have you experienced this "mind control"? Do you have any scientific evidence to this "mind control"?
Do you really believe there is an invisible being that has unlimited power and watches us and allows us to kill each other but he "loves" us?
The bible says god created the universe and earth about 6000 years ago but science can prove that the earliest dinosaurs roamed the earth 230 million years ago. Where is that in your bible? It's not in there because the men who wrote it did not know about dinosaurs. And don't you think if the bible was truly inspired by the word of god, he would have mentioned this things?
But let's just ignore the facts and go with what we were brainwashed to believe as children.
Think about this; Do you think Moses really parted the sea? Really? Do you really believe that? Has anyone ever done anything even remotely like that since?
Use your brain for something other than repeating what you were trained to believe, look at the scientific facts and think logically and rationally for once in your life and you will see that religion was created to control people. To teach people morals. And to instill fear in them for not obeying laws. To comfort people. And it has worked for thousands of years.
But you don't ignore the facts. Don't bury your head in the sand.
listen, the kkk is to christianity what the taliban and al queda are to islam.
Not all christians not even a few hardly, would be klan supporters so let's not get confused here.
I have read all these mindless comments and i am saddened. If God didnt create you unbelievers then YOU give a valid explanation to how you came about into existence? Its a CHOICE to put your faith in Jesus Christ! It is entirely up to you and I live my life for Him! I pray that he has mercyupon those who dont believe and that He open your eyes before its too late. He will come in HIS perfect time and I am sure Kirk knows this.
I think God did create unbelievers. And free will. What a crazy world, huh?
Evolution
It was not true some fireworks injured the birds
Why are you asking this man anything?!?!?!
If I'm wondering about a mass death in nature I would ask a scientist, not an actor who appears in pseudo-biblical shlock!
Personally in my opinion God gives us so many signs and warnings and its up to us too stop being so stubborn and pay close attention to whats really going on just stop and look around pay attention to whats going on around us yall,,, the economy has crashed ,,family killing family,,hatred among ourselves,,natural disasters,,hatred among other folks,,robbing ,,stealing,, killing ,,gays,,lesbians,,its kids thee age 5& up thats killing there parents and other students come yall pay attention GOD is soon to come back and he's coming back for a church without a spot or a wrinkle and thats not saying the actually structure of a church building but the human temple (body) GOD said; before my word fail ,the heaven and earth will leave out the scene,,now as of us being christians we know whats going on and we need to come together instead of beinmg apart and pray and meditate on Gods word and stand on strong, cause God cant stand anymore of the wickness here on earth ,, I made up my mind and im not going to turn around,,Im walking with my JESUS
You are such an idiot. EVERYTHING you talk being a "sign" of God blah blah. ALL of the things have been happening for thousands of years. THOUSANDS of years, waht natural disasters a new phenomanon?, mass wildlife deaths happen often, its called nature moron. Hatred among people, crime – are you seriously freaking saying these are SIGNS of anything. Literally everything example you cite has been occuring since humans evolved from apes, but I guess you dont believe in evolution (despite undeniable evidence that evolution is 100% fact that cannot be denied by anyone with a functioning brain)
Todd, you had me until you got to the 100% fact thing. You might want to look that one up....still a theory dude and one that is looking more and more remote.
"still a theory dude and one that is looking more and more remote."
Theories do not get promoted to fact. http://ncse.com/evolution/education/definitions-fact-theory-law-scientific-work
Why do you say "more and more remote"? I heard of no evidence at all that contradicts the theory of evolution.
If not for religion, people like mason would be serial killers. Take a good look at his disconnected reasoning and imagine that process working away on burglary or fraud. Even if it's untrue, we need it to control the crazies.
Sorry, here is the link: http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/13731573
It's about the man found in the garbage dump being linked to the dead birds somehow. Opinions?
I hope the truth is exposed before other life is wasted.
Sounds like a cover up. Especially with these bogus explanations from "experts". Not fooling me.
Why would CNN leave up such ignorant and repulsive language??? Get educated morons!!
Everyone go to shroomery.org and give a new opinion. I want to hear it.
So Mike Seaver is now the authority on religion? Maybe next they will interview Bone-r on politics.
(EDIT: the guy who played Bone-r died not too long ago. Darn) PS – Sad that I have to put a dash in the name, or CNN blocks the post. It was the name of a character in a prime-time network television series, but it's not allowed here?
I read the German news online (better reporting) and they are reporting that EXACTLY the same thing happened in Sweden. Coincidence???
Yes.
I'm sorry I do believe God is love
If you only knew what you were doing. Consider the story of the good samaritan. He took care of the man and left for 2 days and said he would return after those 2 days. In the book of proverbs, gods time is referred to a day being as a thousand years. Those 2,000 years are up. He's coming soon. I hope you're ready...hells a real place of unending torture. Just think about it...ill pray for you guys that you'll see the light.
Eh, mind your own business and pray for yourself, you brainwashed psycho.
Actually Hell is a concept the Judeans borrowed from the Greeks very real activity of digging a large pit, dumping the unclaimed dead and refuse then burning it. Oh sure Hell was real alright just no pitchforks to be found.
Didn't the Samaritan also say:
"βLook after him,β he said, βand when I return, I will reimburse you for any extra expense you may have.β"
So how's he supposed to repay an inn keeper 1900+ years dead?
Christ returned in the year 1000, just as He said He would. He was immediately burned at the stake for impersonating Jesus.
Its funny how people fall on religion to explain everything and disregards science and technology . Well until they need medicine,transportation, food etc.. Damn hypocrites.
It is wrong in the first place to let someone like Anderson Cooper, let alone Kirk Cameron, discuss such a sensitive matter on a nationwide scale. Should just leave it to the rapper Jay-Z.
Blasphemer! Only Diddy truly knows.
Only Peter Tork can save us now!!
God bless you all...i am a born again christian...and yes through all that is said we must never forget what the scripture says ..NO one knows the day or time When the lord will come for his people...but we must be ready...belive in whatever you wish..but you will be judged by what you belive...birds falling may or may not be a sign...but there are un explained things occuring all around the world that lead to one conclusion...something is coming...ask your self ..when christ comes...will i be accepted or rejected..?god bless us all
When Christ comes, I will swallow.
Prove it bible folk and i dont want your faith or beliefs just proof please
Jesus once appeared in my bowl of Frosted Flakes. All the proof I ever needed.
what would you consider PROOF of God's existence?
"what would you consider PROOF of God's existence?" Well, according to some people here, the existence of a tree proves the existence of God. Me, I'd have to see the actual God itself. Also it would have to do a miracle, then breakdance. I'd probably accept that as proof.
Prove it bible folk and i dont want your faith or beliefs just proof pleasd
I think those of you who don't believe in the one true God are simply misguided. When we who believe in Him and have received the holy ghost with the evidence of speaking in tongues are raptured up to be with Him, those of you who think religion is stupid will remember these "crazy religious nuts" and wish you would have been one.
Which is the One True God?
The Christian one?
The Jewish one?
The Muslim one?
The Buddhist one?
The Hindu one?
Which one?
The Christain One.
Why? Because through Him is the only way you can get to heaven after this life. All the others just offer advice on how to live a decent life now. Only Christ spoke with authority and sureness that He was God and through Him is the ONLY way to the Father and His Kingdom. Not even Muhammed has stated anything close to this, much less Budda, Ghandhi, L Ron Hubbard, etc., etc., etc.
The Christian One.
Why? Because He offers a way into Heaven after you have left this life. The others just offer quick advice on how to live a decent life here. Besides, Christ is the only one who has spoken with authority, declaring Himself to be God and the ONLY way into heaven. Not even Muhammed has come close to stating something close to this. Neither has Ghandhi, Buddha, Allah, L. Ron Hubbard, etc., etc., etc.
@BoldGeorge
Are you serious? He is the one true God "because he spoke with authority.....etc"...that's your best argument?
Adolf Hitler spoke with authority, so did Ted Bundy, Saddam Hussein, and COUNTLESS others, including many that referred to themselves as religous leaders.
I am so tired of seeing people profess that they are absolutely correct in their opinion, so therefore everyone else is wrong. You are by far the worst offender I have seen.
I am a skeptic of all religions, I do not believe that any "God" created everything around us......but I am willing to accept the belief of those that disagree. I have read much of the bible, I have been to many religous sermons (of more than one faith), and I have also read and studied many scientific theories about how life began. I personally tend to believe the scientists – they make more sense to me. But I am not going to run around telling everyone that I am certain that I am correct, and therefore everyone else is wrong....that is an ignorant approach. The truth, and deep down you know this is true, is that NONE of us know for sure. It's OK to have a strong faith – but STOP telling everyone else they are wrong – because you do not know....and if you say otherwise, you are nothing more than a stubborn liar.
You know how some people answer a question with a question? Let me do a different take on that. I'll respond to your answers with more questions:
You wrote:
"Adolf Hitler spoke with authority, so did Ted Bundy, Saddam Hussein, and COUNTLESS others, including many that referred to themselves as religious leaders." (all of these men were obviously sadists and glorified themselves)
My reply to this is:
How can you compare what these men said and did to what Jesus said and did? What were their missions/goals (and we know what they were) and what was Jesus' mission & goal? Which one killed and which one healed? The people you mentioned attacked innocent bodies. Jesus attacked guilty souls, but offered them a way out as well.
You wrote: "I personally tend to believe the scientists β they make more sense TO ME."
My response to this is (and sorry to have capitalized your two last words, but that's key here):
Why does God have to meet YOUR standards on belief? Who or where would you want to base your eternal resting place on? With the scientists whom are not even quite sure about our existence, or base it on a "mysterious" book that was written millenias ago and has lasted through ages (and will continue to last) to reach all of humanity, and which by the way if you have faith in it, you WILL understand its contents and message?
Just a note:
Yes, there's a lot of "truths" out there, depending on who you talk to. I'm not one to believe that all roads lead to the same capital. There's an absolute truth, only ONE truth that is not subject to any manβs interpretations or whims, on which we can base our eternity. You will not understand the Bible unless you are willing to understand it. To me, everything boils down to this, everything you can believe in (aliens, horoscopes, evolution, etc.), you don't need to be accountable to. You don't need to give account to any of these things you would believe in. But, once you realize that if you believe in God, that there is a Creator of all this, and He made you purposely, it's now obvious that you have to give an account of your life to Him. You see, believing in evolution doesn't make you matter anymore, doesn't make you care what you do with your life. It doesn't matter whether you give a great deal of money to a needy orphanage or kill someone's mother just for the fun of it. It wouldn't matter because in the end, there's no purpose to life as we know it, we will all end up the same way, good and bad. Now, put God in the middle of things and wallah! We're accountable now!
In the Bible, you will clearly read that it says in Luke chapter 11, verses 9,10: βSo I say to you: Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.
Please read 1st Corinthians chapter 2, verse 13,14 because I can't be any clearer than this:
"This is what we speak, not in words taught to us by human wisdom but in words taught by the Spirit, explaining spiritual realities with Spirit-taught words.The person without the Spirit does not accept the things that come from the Spirit of God but considers them foolishness, and cannot understand them because they are to be discerned only through the Spirit."
Chemtrails. NEXT!!!
Well said abby!
The only reason that Mr. Cameron was ask about any biblical opinion on the situation is because everybody started talking about the end of days and his belief and expertise as a born again christian should at least be taking seriously, walking in the name of the lord to some people the reality has not set in, but in Mr.Cameron case and defense, that is who he is and we all shall respect his opinion?:-) SHV
For those of you who think that Kirk Cameron is some type of "crack pot" christian nobody who believes bedtime stories and lives his life according to what some "fable" tells him........I pray for your souls because you guys have no clue how wrong you are!!! One day when its too late you're going to wish you had taken what the so called "crack pot" said seriously and believe in the truth, the way, and the light which is JESUS CHRIST. But I pray you people don't wait until its too late because Jesus IS REAL AND HE WILL BE COMING BACK......ARE YOU READY???
How do you know? Because it was brainwashed into your head from the time you were a baby? So sad.
Believe what you like, but I'd expect to see the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles before Jesus or the Spaghetti Monster come back. Wow, you must be fun to be around.
I don't believe in God. I don't NOT believe in God. Nobody knows for sure. I have guesses, which I will keep to myself. But I wouldn't be so presumptuous to declare that God exists or doesn't exist. Because I don't know. I simply can't know. And neither can you.
Ignorance (in the good sense of the word) is no excuse. Let me ask a question? Does anyone know all the laws written and passed in the entire U.S.? Say you go to another state that's not your home state and you are stopped by a police officer right after crossing a street and he says to you, "Sir/Madam, Im going to have to give you a fine because you just broke such and such law." And you answer, "Well, I didn't know about this law, how could I have known about it?" Believe me, ignorance will not save you from that imminent fine, only the officer's mercy will. Someone here posted a comment that 'there is no tangible evidence that God exists'. Well, there's tangible evidence that he or she is breathing and moving about. There's tangible evidence everywhere you look, as far as the eye can see, everything you touch is tangible evidence. Isn't that what 'tangible' means? perceiving things with the senses, especially the senses of seeing and touching. Go ahead and look around and feel anything...I'm sure you'll find plenty of tangible evidence that God exists. And you ask how can anyone know? That's where faith steps in. You have the option, the freedom of wanting to know and now wanting to know. That's why the word 'believe' even exists. Either you do or you don't. Some say they need "proof" to believe and some others aren't too concerened about "proof" in order to believe. Besides, "proof" is a subjective word. I really think that when people ask for proof, they are really asking, "Does believing in this or that fit into my lifestyle or does it satisfy MY needs, MY wants and MY desires in life or does believing in this will make me have to change my lifestyle, because I might not want to change my ways?"
@Bold George,
"Go ahead and look around and feel anything...I'm sure you'll find plenty of tangible evidence that God exists. "
Sorry, what you see and feel around you is evidence of the Flying Spaghetti Monster, not your god.
The only intelligent comment on this whole page is #53. Fireworks contain massive amounts of sulfur, as well. Poor Kirk was pulled in the line of fire. Hey CNN...all I can say is...REALLY?! Geniuses, ha!
We are definately in the end times. According to Revelations, people will become worse and worse and will be lovers of self and haters of God. Well you can't get much worse than this and there is a whole lot of hate towards God or anything Godly on here. Why fight against something so much that you regard as nonexist or a so called fairey tale! You can't see the air you breath but without it you would be just like those birds dead! Without God you would be without air, thank heavens he is a merciful and loving God!
You think this is bad? I can do so much worse. Just ask Noah.
@ mon- you want tangible evidence of God? Look up, literally... the stars were breathed from GOD! Youtube Louie Giglio about our solor system and see how small we really are, but how MUCH GOD LOVES US anyway..dare ya!
What's solor system???
So it's all mucus and spittle... disgusting.
first of all whoever says god doesn't exist is a idiot . how Do they think we all got here or the oceans or mountains or anything!! wake up people no wonder this nation is going so down hill and they have no one to blame but them selfs . so everyone wants to say kirk cameron is a religious nut because he has Belifs and morals more then i am sure then half of these people on here that made a Comment about him..! all i have to say is good luck to those people that don't believe in god. good luck you will need it. its funny how mostly everyone only believes in god when they need something or they feel lost or something like that..!
Being an atheist or agnostic doesn't make a person an idiot. Using poor grammar, and not knowing proper spelling and/or punctuation, however, does.
Abby, so if there's a natural explanation for mountains, then you will become an atheist? Listen, I don't believe but I understand faith. Worst case is the world is completely natural and humans slowly differentiated from lower animals over hundreds of thousands of years; if you believe in God then don't worry about it. None of this silly crap about 'how old is the world' and 'is the world flat or round' is in any way the POINT of the Bible. If God's real he'll come for your soul even if the world's flat or if you are a kind of ape with little fingers on your feet. Have as much faith as a grain of mustard seed, and don't despair.
Julie was Kirk's on screen 1st true love, in a "Family" television series. Yes, there was a time when people who did things that were not appropriate, could not or would not be accepted for "Family" television. Julie was fired for her own doing; not because of Kirk. As for the actual reason we are commenting, Kirk's popularity is what put him in your path to condemn. He is known for the Left Behind series, movies. His work with other Christian works; like Fire Proof & his charities for disabled children. If they would have called a preacher, 90% of you would not have a clue as to who the preacher was. For those of you who do not believe in God; well, that is your choice. God gave us all the same choice's in life. Just remember this; God is not a religion. He never has been & He never will be. Religion's come & go; but God is everlasting. God is real. I know this; not because someone told me to believe, but because of what He has shown me, what He has done for me, & because I choose to see Him, as He is.
I completely agree!
Wrong!! The producers and the network knew exactly what Julie McCollough had done with Playboy. The knew she was a former playmate. It's why she got the gig. It was Kirk Cameron behind the scenes making a stink. Once he found about her past he not only refused to work with her but he refused to work period if she was still on the payroll. Thems are the facts as they say.
@OFFof20 Well said.... To God be the glory!!
Nice
Have any of you ever listen to kirk talk about his faith?I have and whatever you think of him doesn't matter all we as real believers in christ want to do is please God and do right by each other. All you unbeliever we love you too,but you need to read god's word concerning you who judge you will be heldaccountable by the plumb line ,the standards you set for others
What you say applies to you as well. You might want to really think about that.
I've seen his show. He's a hateful and unChristian little creep. But he had a tv show once and that's good enough for most people.
hahahaha really ask him? Lol thats hilarious made my day but i do believe that it has something to do with end times cause this is happening all over the world birds and fish dying dor NO reason at all and the bible did talk about things like this happening so i think it has somethin to do with end times
Wow. On CNN you would expect legitimate, well thought out, intelligent commentary. In its place you see proof that the world has clearly gotten dumber if nothing else. To those of you that are not, you are exempt from my next comment. The rest of you are illiterate, dull, naive human beings and i truly pity you all for your horribly pathetic and narrow views. I honestly feel like the world would be a better place without these shallow shells passing as people. You are all pathetic and I hope if the apocalypse ever comes you all suffer before the end. Morons.
The only way I can explain it is that the setup has become a gathering place for trolls. The same people are showing up every day to battle over...nothing.
Oh wait, I just realized I am a useless troll. I am a waste of skin and I have hairy palms. Why oh why are people on the internets so mean to me?
Watch out for those low flying buildings and trees, everyone, please!
@Faith Christianity is the oldest faith? Really? Umm... Have you forgotten that the Jewish people had a hand in Jesus' death? That kind of sounds like Judaism was before Christianity. I dunno... but I'm pretty sure even Kirk was surprised to be brought on to talk about this.
Really?
Kirk who??????
The Late-80's-Early-90's called. They said something about "growing panes" and a "Leonardo DiCaprio launching vehicle." Sounds like they're talking about some weird glass-oriented deleted scene from Inception.
Oh, and they asked if you got any good use out of those extra question marks you got from Home Shopping Network.
"Pither thee fool that makes jest of the situation.He will come like a thief in the night. Are you ready? Actually, I wouldn't have contacted Kirk Cameron for falling birds. But I am a believer of his biblical knowledge. So when the Rapture does occur in our lifetime or the next, you are going to with you would have listened. Peace and God Bless!
Pz Ev1: Love Kirk & family~here's what was revealed:
β... I will sweep away the birds in the sky and the fish in the seaβ.....β "...perhaps you will be sheltered...."
See HB Zep. 1:3 & 2:3
Yes it's true. It's crazy how so many sinners don't know what's coming. I hope everyone who reads this get's blessed and saved. God forgive all these people for what there saying and may you have mercy on their souls. God bless you all!
don't throw Ur pearls pond the swine
@faith christianity is the oldest religion? Wow...where did you learn that?? Hinduism is over 5,000 years old and still going strong while Christianity is a mere 2,000. Do the math. If you can't that's about a 3,000 year difference! It bothers me how people can be so ignorant and stick to their ignorant views no matter if they are dead wrong. False gods indeed. I'm tired about hearing how Jesus or the Virgin Mary appeared on your shovel or in the shape of your chicken finger! Why not try understanding religions before you preach about something you know nothing about? I guess it would be too hard so it's easier to be ignorant. If the world was truly ending it would be because of the ignorance of everything and everyone by some of the so called "chosen people"
Fooled again
Now i know why Anderson Cooper had him on-he's making a move on my man!
Wait the 4 horsemen here now and the rider of the white horse is do to arrive soon
Coming soon
To quote Kathy Griffin: 'suck it Jesus!'
I'm telling you, they ran into a ufo. It was aliens!
we are living in the last days. there are more natural disasters occurring that point to this apart from these dead birds.
Some of you all tend to be very disrespectful when comes to writting comments on Cnn. Whether your life is right your not you need to have a respect for God. If many of us realized what this nation was founded on..it is no doubt that our nation would be in much shape today. it does not matter who you are or what you have accomplished the point is . Do you have a relationship with Jesus Christ. If you are not living free from sin nothing on else on that day will matter and I assure you you will not be saying the evil things you put on here. in that day you will fear and reverence God! if you need help or want to pray come by the Church of God in Escondido CA on Harmony Grove rd!
We all sin and fall short of Gods glory
Right, we do need to remember what this country was founded upon - RELIGIOUS FREEDOM. Let us believe what we want and stop trying to shove your God and Jesus fellows down everybody else's throats.
Not everyone is religious you smug self righteous jack ass! When you come knocking on my door or sticking little pamphlets in my mail box you are not showing respect. Anyone who thinks we need to return to the days of the Pilgrims needs to get their head out of their ass and join the modern age! Or better yet go meet your maker!
This country was founded by refugees trying to escape from the control of huge megachurches. Separation of church and State is one of our rights.
Just for reference, our founding fathers once stated the following:
"The government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Mussulmen [Moslems]. "
(I threw the Muslim bit in there to remind people that our founding father loved themselves some Muslim religious principles and people.)
6 kids! Damn, i had such a crush on him! I always thought he could swing my way...Now, I definitely have a chance...I bet he can't wait to get out of the house...and that's when I'll make my move!
There is only one true God who is one with the Lord Jesus Christ who was from the beginning. Christianity is the oldest Faith. Who understands scripture understands. All other religions are false. Give yourself a chance and read the Bible and attend bible study regularly.
Christianity is not the oldest faith.
Wow, you're kind of stupid - Judaism predates Christianity by thousands of years, to say nothing of the Greeks, the Sumerians. Try learning before you speak publicly, you'll be less embarrassing to your teachers.
@Urkel,
Wow, you're kind of condescending. It's always disappointing to me when I see educated people bashing those with less mental agility. A playful comment is one thing, but telling someone that they're "stupid" is just unkind. And it's often indicative of insecurity. Hopefully that is not the case with you.
You are correct that Judaism predates Christianity since the Jews lived long before the birth of Jesus Christ. However, the first religion was a believe in a single God who ruled over His creation from heaven (a theocracy). See below:
Theocracy definition
a word first used by Josephus to denote that the Jews were under the direct government of God himself. The nation was in all things subject to the will of their invisible King. All the people were the servants of Jehovah, who ruled over their public and private affairs, communicating to them his will through the medium of the prophets. They were the subjects of a heavenly, not of an earthly, king. They were Jehovah's own subjects, ruled directly by him (comp. 1 Sam. 8:6-9).
Ref. Easton's 1897 Bible Dictionary
And to more gently correct @Faith, while you are correct that there is only one true God, He is not one with Jesus (or the holy spirit, for that matter). The believe in triadic gods (3) did not originate with true teachings. They came from ancient Babylonian religion. And if you reference your Bible you will see multiple verse that clearly show that God and Jesus are two separate beings (e.g., Matthew 24:36, "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father." Or Mark 10:17-18, "As He was setting out on a journey, a man ran up to Him and knelt before Him, and asked Him, βGood Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?β And Jesus said to him, βWhy do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.β" Or consider when Jesus prayed, who was praying to, himself? Think about it.). When Jesus said the Father and I are one, he was referring to being one in purpose, not one in existence. Nowhere in the Bible is it recorded that Jesus ever said he was the one true God, but he did call God his father. And we all know that we are not the same person as our own fathers. We may be like our fathers, but we are two distinct individuals.
MY FAITH OLDEST FAITH. WORSHIP ROCK IN CAVE. YOU NOT CORRECT.
Fantastic picture of kirt at the top. Makes him look retarded.
You say Jesus is REAL. Yet is there any tangible evidence he existed beyond the written words of man? No. Faith is a beautiful thing until it's taken too far. You can't live on faith alone –
the word is prophecy
Then what else can you live on if not by faith alone? Let me remind you that faith is what moves you to do anything, to live how you want to live and to end up how you want to end up...faith is everything. Besides, anyone that says they have no faith is either kidding themselves or is about to jump off a bridge (hopefully not). Some have faith in God/Jesus, others have faith in themselves, others have faith in evolution and the big-bang theory (that we came out of nothing–hahaha), and others have faith in science, in tangible evidence. All in all, it's faith that moves us to do anything and to go anywhere. I do have to add that it's faith that either saves you or gets you into trouble...depends which one you have.
Hi, George. I'm curious. Do you believe your God will hold you accountable on Judgment Day for the people you alienated from the Christian message by approaching them with mockery and spiteful condescension?
Is that suppose to be Kirks tv sister tina?
I'm just really amazed at the (low) quality of comments on these articles. Isn't this site published by CNN? Even if the article is lacking, I was expecting intelligent debates, not YouTube worthy jr. high babble. Dissapointing.
Terrifyingly, it's like this on almost every single article.
This younger than 40 generation is WACKED OUT!
Remember to get out of the city
Note to self:
don't turn arou..
I was raised in tha church but as I got older I still don't know exactly what I believe. BUT I do know that you should treat everyone tha way that you want to be treated! With RESPECT and DIGNITY!!! Why do people want to condemn others for what they believe just because you don't agree? Like I said I don't know what I believe BUT if you can't say anything nice do what ya mama said long ago and DON'T SAY NOTHING AT ALL!!! Hateful a** folks! Make me sick!!!
lol, you realize you didn't say anything nice, right? Maybe you should have thought about what you were going to type before you put your foot in your mouth
Though I respect your respect for others, I am concerned that you do not know what you believe in at this stage in your life. I don't blame you though. I probably blame the foundation (or lack there of) you grew up with. This I can tell you, that unless you acknowledge that you have sinned against God, that you have gone against His holiness and His will for your life (btw, I'm not judging you, I've been there myself), you will not be able to accept that you need to be saved. And if you don't see the need for salvation, you will not enter into Heaven. Saved from what you might ask? From God's judgement and wrath upon you for your unbelief. And the only way you can be saved is through the blood of Christ, who died for you. He has replaced you on the cross. He has been judged instead of you and He was killed in your stead. All you have to do are two things: Believe and follow.
Bold George said: "Nobody is pushing anything on anyone....As a christian, I am given the option, the freedom to believe in God, Jesus Christ, etc.."
Then, later Bold George said: "This I can tell you, that unless you acknowledge that you have sinned against God, that you have gone against His holiness and His will for your life (btw, I'm not judging you, I've been there myself), you will not be able to accept that you need to be saved. And if you don't see the need for salvation, you will not enter into Heaven. Saved from what you might ask? From God's judgement and wrath upon you for your unbelief."
Sounds a little hypocritical to me.... "I'm not pushing anything on you, you can believe whatever you want, but if you don't choose what I believe in, well, enjoy hell buddy because that's where you're going."
Well, you can feel safe that I won't be causing you any bodily harm because you don't have my same beliefs. And I reiterate the fact that we live in a great country where you can believe in anything you want to, just as long as you don't physically force anyone to do so. That's what I meant. You can preach the gospel here (and in many other countries where they exercise the freedom of speech and religion), just not physically force anyone to believe in it. There's nothing hypocirtical about anything I wrote, unless you personally want it to be for debating purposes.
@michele goodloe,
I agree with the repect and dignity part of what you're saying, but the fact is that people's beliefs can drive public policy and the Kirk Camerons of the world, with their crockoduck and banana logic, want to push science out of the science class when our country needs more science and math education not less.
@Bold George,
So... I have sinned against the same God that created a situtation in which I need to be saved and provided no way for me to save myself? Is that correct?
Correct! There is no way anyone can save themselves other than choosing to be saved by God's grace. And although it has been changed to sound complicated, salvation has always been a simple concept to grasp. I can tell you about salvation in just two sentences. Man and woman cannot and will not meet God's standard of holiness, not our own standards, but His standard of holiness (by the way, God's standard for holiness was given to us....the Ten Commandments). So, He had to come to die for our sins, in order to make us righteous through Him...never through our own efforts. Still complicated?
By the way, God didn't nor does he create any situation that imperils us. It is of our own choosing. It is us, man & woman that gets us into trouble. And obviously, God gets us out or works with us through our troubles in order to perfect us. Blaming God for all the evils of the world (or even some of them) is a typical nagging outcome when we don't want to face our own sins and wrong decision-making.
It's like getting left back from the tenth grade and then saying, "Why did they have to create education and schools, where now I have to compete in life, get good grades or else I'll be left back...not fair?" or being fired from a job and then saying, "Why did they create work, where now I have to get a job and compete in life in order for me to pay for food, shelter and clothing (and luxuries), and possibly get fired if I'm not competetive enough?"
Let's stop nagging and blaming God for all theills of the world (oreven some of them) and start making righteous decisions, starting with, "Let me give my life over to God because I cannot makeiton my own."
@George
So if you believe George's logic...that we all create our own peril.......Stillborn children created their own death because of something they did in the womb, people that die in natural disasters, such as tornadoes, floods, or tsunami's were doomed by their terrible decision to live someplace that might have a natural disaster, and innocent people that are murdered (for example: the 911 victims) should have known better than to go to work in a building that some psychopath was going to slam a plane into..... I could go on and on, but it seems pointless.
Keep preaching, George.....your words will ring with the ignorant and gullible, but they will fall short with the rest of us.
@Bold George,
"Blaming God for all the evils of the world (or even some of them) is a typical nagging outcome when we don't want to face our own sins and wrong decision-making." And yet, "There is no way anyone can save themselves..."
"Let's stop nagging and blaming God..." And yet, "Let me give my life over to God because I cannot makeiton my own."
You see the problem? If I can't do it on my own then how can I be responsible for not doing it?
If God is the only possible way to salvation, then wouldn't He be responsible for it?
Bold George is going to save our souls, and Jesus will be pleased with him. Or maybe he will reinforce our conviction that if religion is the opiate of the masses, on some people it's more like PCP.
Believe me, I wish I had the power to save you guys, but that can't be my decision, or can it?...I rest my case!
By the way, this line of reasoning is quite amusing: "If God is the only possible way to salvation, then wouldn't He be responsible for it?"
So, according to this reasoning", It would be correct to lay responsibility on a fire-fighter who is on his way to rescue you from the fire you yourself caused by being irresponsible and leaving candles lit in the basement of your home while you slept upstairs?
Regarding natural disasters and catastrophes like the 911 incident, natural disasters are natural disasters. Remember, we live on earth, not in heaven. Besides, last time I heard, it was man that didn't handle a certain crisis (hint-hint–Hurricane Katrina) the way they were suppose to...and tragic events like 911, world wars, hunger, and all crimes are still man's responsibility. If a serial killer killed 5 innocent kids, it is still a man-made choice, though there are certainly outcomes and consequences, and consequently victims to man's decisions. Why blame God for Man's corruption, whether they be at a goverment level, or patriarchy level or even a familial level....man makes a choice and there will be consequences. God doesn't make decisions for us. He didn't create robots, he created humans that are able to make choices, choices to love, to hate, to heal, to kill and to do whatever choice we want to make.
By the way, on 911, though a lot of people perished, a whole lot of people got saved as well....and though it was a very sad day for our country, some of them did thank God.
Kudos to Herb!
No TSnow, the way you misspell "christain" makes you a retard
I agree with everything Kirk says.
Agree with u..too
Not me, I trust bible ,not all kirk says is true. Gods word never lies
You know where you can stick that banana. You know, it's amazing how perfectly that banana would fit there. Almost as if God designed it to be used as a . . .
You all going to miss the boat again
Agree with u...The bible says that God's people are lost for lack of knowledge
Kirk should fall into the shadows and stay silent. It is amazing to see how his spiritual "growth" over the years has made him sound more like a blubbering fool. Go ahead and look to the pilgrims for guidance Kirk...that makes worlds of sense in 2011.
And people wonder why belief in religion is at an all time record low. People are finally pulling their heads outta their asses and starting to understand how nature, science and common sense work.
Jen, you're so right. In fact, the Bible even supports your belief, in that in latter times most people will not believe or most will fall out of believing. I'm gald to see someone studies their Bible...or somehow guessed it correctly.
God does not exist. Christians who pay more than lip service to their supposed beliefs are not as easily found.
He doesnβt? How did you find that out? Since it is not possible to prove or disprove the existence of God maybe you meant that youβre agnostic (literally βnot knowingβ – if God exists)?
Every person on the earth puts their faith in something. You, my friend, have chosen to put your faith into a presupposition that there is NO God; that doesnβt mean it is truth. A Christian has chosen to put their faith into the presupposition that God DOES exist. The fact that this is their belief doesnβt somehow make it truth either.
The very nature of truth is that it is FACT and NOT relative. Truth is not flexible; it cannot become whatever you want it to be. It simply IS. Your friend can tell you they just got a new car, and you can disbelieve them all you want, but that doesn't change the facts. They either DID or did NOT get a new car. Your neighbor can say, βMan, I canβt believe how hot it is out here!β and you can look at the thermometer and think, βThis guyβs whacked, itβs 26 degrees out!β Truth is truth; your job isnβt to decide what truth is, itβs to decide if you want to choose to believe it.
Experts proved that a loud sound (hmm approx midnight on new years eve, gee I don't suppose it was ppl setting off fireworks?!) scared the birds and they flew out of their nests and crashed into low flying buildings, trees, etc causing internal trauma. Blood was tested, no poison, no cancers, no big mystery. Stupid humans scaring the wildlife as usual.
What the hell is a low-flying building?
Flying trees!! Doomsday is upon all of us!!!! Repent!!
Was this the first year that fireworks were used?
Jen, you really are an esoteric American. Look up some international news for a change. Same event occured in Sweden and it wasn't on New Year's Eve. So, your duh, it was the fireworks theory goes right out the window. Idiot...and didn't falling birds happen in a neighboring state two days later? Once again, I repeat, idiot.....
I agree the apocalyptic angle makes for a juicier story. Kirk was called n bc " wrath" trumps " weather" every time! To quote snl upd8, "Really Cooper? Really?
This guys a quack!
You're all morons, every last one of you.
Pray in one hand and crap in the other, see which fills up first.
Better, let's all crap in both of your hands while you pray and see if the crap you spew goes away!
As if the idiot that invented the Crocoduck would know
Christina Moorshead
I wish you all would stop! Jesus us Very real and you need the Bible! I have never seen so much hateful and heartless people! And it is all going according to the Bible, People only caring and greed and hate! I was never perfect and I am still not perfect But one day one that Judgement day YOU will be judged! I will pray for every single soul that needs God! God Bless you all Phil 4:13
What makes me sad is that you people feel the need to push your faith onto other people. People will believe what they believe, and it is not your job to force your beliefs on others. Nobody really knows which religion, if any religion, is the true religion so no religion is better than the others.
Rob J – seriously? You really needed to write that? I feel sorry for you. I really do. Your post says more about YOU, than ANY Christian posting here.
Nobody is pushing anything on anyone. That's actually the difference between true christians and muslims, the pushing aspect of believing. As a christian, I am given the option, the freedom to believe in God, Jesus Christ, etc...But as for a muslim, if I don't believe in Allah, Muhammed, etc...it's off with my head!
George, you're a loon. Christians used to lock people in the stocks for being late to church. It was illegal to belong to anything but the One Church. Wars were fought to exterminate churches and kill everyone who belonged to them. Seen an Albigensian lately? Ever heard of the Spanish Inquisition? This country fought two wars against the Anglicans trying to stop us from allowing Catholicism. Is any of this familiar to you? Were you home-schooled by illiterates?
Unfortunately, I was educated by the public school system, department of education...Aha! Now I know why I'm ignorant in many things.
This is the reason i will never vote republican. All of their intolerant christian taliban supporters who will happily ruin your life if you disagree with them. Remember what Kirk C did to Julie MCculough. These are he same people that wore the Klan robes just a few decades back.
Yeah, that Senator Byrd... Always made the Republicans look bad with his time wearing Klansman uniform.
... Democrat?! SON OF A ...
Oops I meant Tina Y.... Not Tina S
Oh wait.....that probably makes me a retard according to your standards.
No one knows the day or the hour when the Lord will return. But one thing is for sure we will all confess Jesus as Lord one day. I thank God that he has shown me his love. For while we were still sinners Christ died for us. It does not matter if you believe it or not. It is still TRUTH! God love us all that is why He sent his Son and that is why He has not wrapped this thing up yet He is giving us all time to come to that truth which is Jesus Christ.
ξ Amen!!!!!
It is so nice to see so many Christians finally standing up in defense of our Lord. Thank you!!!!!
Nicole, your deity needs YOU to stand up for it?
That's a pitiful excuse for a "god."
I only hope that someday we, as a species, will evolve beyond the need for imaginary powerful friends.
@aWitchintheWoods, your deity, the one whom you serve through your lack of faith in a High Power, does not rear his ugly head to make a public showing, except through the cynical counter-truths and actions of his progeny–like you. Look around, honey, you live in the woods! You think that tree made itself? You think it developed the complex process of photosynthesis on its own? You think it was by chance that we inhale oxygen and exhale carbon dioxide, and the trees take in carbon dioxide and give off oxygen (as do the algae in the oceans)? And so far we are just considering trees; there's a whole world of wonders beyond the woods that testify to the greatness of God in their beauty and design. The only thing that needs to evolve is your depth of reasoning and powers of perception. You might want to make that your next high priority project.
"Christians finally standing up in defense of our Lord" Because He's just a little baby, and needs a whole lot of granny ladies and soccer moms to change His diaper? I was under the impression that Christians called on God to help and uplift them, not the other way around.
Keeper, that's a pretty feeble 'straw man' argument. Who exactly is it that thinks each tree 'made itself,' inventing the process of photosynthesis on its own? Nobody says that, it's a stupid argument, and either you are dumb or purposely telling a lie about what people believe. Also, it was very "Christian" of you to call aWitch a devil worshiper based on her name (based on yours I'd say you are a paranoid schizophrenic). Why don't you try breathing carbon monoxide?
Keeper, when I was 18 a "Christian" said a bunch of insulting things to me and my friends, including that anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is a devil worshipper. I've never taken anything a christ worshipper said seriously after that; I mean how can you? That's just crazy talk.
@Simon, please allow me to apologize for those "Christians" who insulted you. They were wrong for saying unkind things to you and your friends. Jesus was kind to all he spoke to (except the religious leaders in his day because they were teaching false doctrines to the people). Anyone who represents Jesus Christ should also emulate his manner of communication. So please don't hold it against God or Jesus that imperfect people were rude to you in the past.
Keeper, when I was 18 a "Christian" said a bunch of insulting things to me and my friends, including that anyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is a devil worshipper. I've never taken anything a christ worshipper said seriously after that; I mean how can you? That's just crazy talk.
@Buster, I can see that my attempt at wit was completely lost on you. No problem, let me explain.
You're right, who does believe all that other than everybody you supports the idea of evolution over creation? I wasn't attempting to "lie" about what someone may or may not believe, I was trying to make the point that the complexities around us testify to an intelligent designer, and that they did not likely come into being through any "big bang" process or from frog excrement drying in the sun (that's another attempt at humor) some 10,000,000,000... years ago. Further, I was noting the uncanny intrinsic harmony between humans and their environment. Just happened? Not likely.
As for the self-proclaimed "witch" that you feel I wrongly accused, perhaps my reaction to her post was a little harsh but the word "witch" does conjure up (no pun intended) a certain image in most people's mind. Further, she makes a pretty strong point that she is not a big fan of God's. Perhaps you missed that in her post. So tell me, Buster, if a self-proclaimed witch is not a fan of God's who do they worship? I also noticed that she didn't correct me. Did she ask you to?
As for your generous offer of carbon monoxide, I think I'll pass.
Praise God Will, he is the truth and the truth will set you free.Real freedom
yaweh bin yaweh, you're right that Jesus ate when He was on earth, but he was God Incarnate, meaning He became man for a short time. He was there when the world was created, nothing was created without Him. He was the Word, and the Word became Flesh! Yes God became man for our sake and He gave His life for our salvation, if we choose Him that is. Jesus is called Lord and God is called Lord, they are one and with the Holy Spirit.
Can not believe how hateful some people really are. Christains have the right to free speech just like everyone else. And for Tina S... seriously.... Why would you make fun of an innocent baby? You are a sad sad human being. I have no clue why the birds are dying but I am a Christain and I do believe in God and Jesus Christ. BUT.....Let's say I'm wrong.... I still haven't lost anything! I've lived a good life and tried to do the right thing..... Treat others with respect too. Let's Say you are wrong and there is a God and Jesus Christ .... Oops! So sad for you! You've lost everything and you were a meanie!!!!!
Pascal's wager! Who needs the truth?
I I don't think Jesus will come for his people any time soon but I do believe that His time is closer than we expect...what I'm sure is going to happen is an ecological disaster, what is going on right now is no doubts of something bad going on or very soon disaster is going to shake us....I agree with Kirk, our concern should be if we ready when Jesus comes for his church....but in the mean time lets prepare for disaster....when plague in Egypt, disaster happend.... so lets get readyyyyyyy....plus it might not be the end of world but it is the begining of end
Theres so much more than US n our attention seeking states, greed, control n blatant disregard n disrespect to WHO EVER it is who put you here n BLESSED you with all that makes you ARROGANT, AT THE END OF THE DAY THERE IS A HIGHER POWER REGARDLESS, I HOPE YALL ATLEAST SANE ENOUGH TO SEE THAT EVERY TIME YOU LOOK IN THE MIRROR. Good Luck & God Bless
Carmen, are you saying that when we look in our mirrors we will see God? Because I looked, and He looks a lot like me. I guess I'm really made in God's image.
Why, why can't we ALL just get along?
you are right nancy girl. kameron seems to be a world class creep hiding behind his religion.
I'm simply going to pray for you all...
Is there a more condescending and passive-aggressive sentence in the English language than, "I'll pray for you"? Like, check me out. Not only am I scoring brownie points with the Big Guy Upstairs by showing admirable restraint, but I'm also slyly asserting my moral superiority over you, the object of my prayerful pity. Must be nice to have that cake and eat it too. But how about this? Don't pray for me, and I won't make my montly donation to Planned Parenthood in your honor. Thanks.
Kirk Cameron is one world class jerk. He got that pretty blond girl Julie Maculloughfired off of growing pains for appearing in playboy. His ultra orthodox views make normal christians look like taliban nutttbagz.
so if his views make normal christians look like "taliban nutbagz", what do his views make ultra orthodox christians look like?
Your analogy needs a little work.
That is totally wrong....Julie appeared in Playboy February 1986 and was able to become an actress because of that appearance. She joined the cast 1989-1990. It was part of her resume and well known that she was in the magazine well before she started working on Growing Pains.
AMEN! @22 n they all will be so quiet then, all along seeing with your eyes, judging in your mind, persecuting others with your actions living in self righteousness, denial n delusion. whether you believe in god n the mere obvious or not if there is do you HONESTLY feel you would even be chosen in to heaven?
Wow, tina your a pretty hateful person. plus calling yourself one of Gods retarded children, sad.
Wow....the enviroment is in serious condition...and everyone is like making a big old joke about it!!! It is exactly that denial that all lazy ass people in this country, will come to realize when the end cause of our actions really does come!!!! I live in a state that is known for winter....this year barely any snow and mostly near 50 degrees in january. When its normally barely 20!!! What is it going to take for people to realize and stop joking, before its too late!!!!!!
When you take the time to understand meteorology and realize that nothing in weather is "normal"
Well what ever is happening i hope they find out why. instead of people down gradeing other people! we are all gods children lets not forget that lets all come together and pray for the people there.and pray that none of the residents that live there dont get sick.GROW UP PEOPLE. GOD BLESS:^)
Someone please tell me how such crude, rude and unbelievably disgusting posts manage somehow to get past the censors, but if a poster wants to say something reasonable, it gets deleted?
Tina–that is an AWFUL thing to say about Sarah Palin and her family...especially her baby! You think all mentally and physically challenged children are "mongoloids?" What a horrible thing to say. I have a cousin who is physically handicapped and I would call anyone out who called him a "mongoloid" or anything equally as offensive.
I highly doubt you would ever say that to her face or anyone else with mentally and physically challenged children.
I'll know the rapture is here when idiot neo-con, religious nuts like Kirk Cameron start dying unexpectedly.
Very cruel tina... r u the same T.Y. that has 3 responses on this page.? u have alot of time on yr hands. or is it bitterness? perhaps u want people 2 think u r the actress that was on the show w/kirk, which would explain the I was the unattractive one who was not successful bitterness. bottom line...kirk gave an appropriate reply 2 the question and I think he and his wife r quite wonderful people, and outstanding in their convictions..
One thing I do know you can make all the fun you want every knee will bow every tongue will confess.but none of you will make fun then.
You Tell them!!!!!! ξ
You do not know, just like I don't know. Use a little logic and skepticism...it can go a long way. Start by ending your belief in supernatural fairytales!
Very well said wyndle. Its a little sad how those that don't know Christ just simply go on the attack even when they are not provoked. But you hit it right on the nail. Folks you will one day meet God why not get to know Him before that time comes?
(attempting to match the level of logic...)
Nuh Uh.... Will not...
Wyndle, why does that sound like "you better think and be like me OR my daddy is going to beat you up?"
Grow up. Put the childish fantasies behind you.
"Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?"
Douglas Adams
And your proof is...where? Nowhere. It's all make-believe and you are very gullible.
I nearly died once and I was cracking jokes right up to the end. You can kill me but you can't scare me. I'll be joking as the planet cracks under me.
It's a little hilarious how almost 2000 years after the authors of the NT, men who predicted Jesus would return in their lifetimes, died disappointed, that evangelicals not only continue to think Jesus is coming back AND SOON! but actually use this failed prophecy to try to intimidate nonbelievers.
Amen – good answer.
Clarification – I meant Amen to Wnydle's reply. It is very serious to state that a person has no interest in a relationship with God. Imagine dying and then not having another moment to change your statement. The fact that a person doesn't believe will not change the fact that we will take our last breath here and our next breath somewhere. You cannot kill us. We will live forever in one place or the other, either separated from God because of our own statements or disinterest in having his Son Jesus as our Lord and Savior or we will be with Him forever. Anyone who doesn't believe, how about asking Jesus to reveal Himself to you. He is so great and gracious that he understands the human condition and I do believe He will make Himself known to you . When I asked He certainly has made Himself known to me and it has been over 30 years now. Ask and the answer will be given to you – but the request must come from you. Don't take the chance of being wrong. Eternity is a very long time. Again, you can't kill us, we were created to live forever. You make the choice.
Maybe next we can check with Henry Winkler on oil prices.
Great idea! After that we can ask that fat guy who played Rerun on "What's Happenin'?" about foreign policy.
Well, since the actor who played Rerun (Fred Berry) is dead, that'll make booking him easy.
The Fonz, Rerun & little Mikey Seavers as experts....bwahahahah....that's funny stuff!
Only Peter Tork can save us now.
Obama did it....lulz
Think they could have posted a better picture?
You mean one where Anderson isn't drooling over him?
He's 40?
Is this doosh even still alive?
what exactly is a " doosh " ?
This from a person whose screen name is Jan Michael Vincent? Funny!
Read Matt. 24 for clear understanding.
Better yet, read a primer on science for clear understanding of reality.
What Kirk Cameron did not know?: (he may not actually read his Bible.)
I watched as the Lamb broke the sixth seal, and there was a great earthquake. The sun became as dark as black cloth, and the moon became as red as blood. (Revelation 6:12) {Lunar and Solar eclipses)
one-third of all things living in the sea died, and one-third of all the ships on the sea were destroyed. (Revelation 8:9)
Then the second angel poured out his bowl on the sea, and it became like the blood of a corpse. And everything in the sea died. Then the third angel poured out his bowl on the rivers and springs, and they became blood. (Revelation 16:3-4)
Okay, let's get this straight once and for all. No where in the Bible does the word "Rapture" even appear. And in fact, if you fly away, you are meeting up with the anti-christ, a real smooth talker. Don't be fooled. It's all in the Bible. Read it chapter and verse, and make sure whom ever teaches you can properly translate.
Very true. Neither does the word Trinity and so many have been misled by this doctrine. The bible supports this nowhere.
of course the word rapture is not in the bible, but it does speak about a rapture,
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever.
there is plenty of bible verses that speak of this "rapture", you just gotta read the bible.
1 Linus 5: 18-21
Just wait 'til next year, Charlie Brown. You'll see! Next year at this same time, I'll find the pumpkin patch that is real sincere and I'll sit in that pumpkin patch until the Great Pumpkin appears. He'll rise out of that pumpkin patch and he'll fly through the air with his bag of toys. The Great Pumpkin will appear and I'll be waiting for him! I'll be there! I'll be sitting there in that pumpkin patch and I'll see the Great Pumpkin. Just wait and see, Charlie Brown. I'll see the Great Pumpkin. I'll SEE the Great Pumpkin! Just you wait, Charlie Brown. The Great Pumpkin will appear and I'll be waiting for him...
Gloria-Why is it that something so reputedly divine constantly requires translation and interpretation? You'd think the creator of the universe could just make it clear and coherent for everyone. Because without constant interpretation and apologetics people start to realize that this "g*d" started out as the perpetrator of all kinds of horrors. Then, mysteriously, in the NT, we're encouraged to forget all of that. Both OT and NT stories are interpreted for a desired outcome ad-hoc. When it's convenient, they're parables. When it's convenient and inspires fear, they're literal. When someone applies reason to them, they're back to parables again. Darned malleable stuff.
Oh, and Kirk Cameron is a dumb banana-crocko-duck head. :-b
It is true the bible has no word, rapture, but it clearly states his believers who are still on earth when he returns will be caught up with him in the air. Also no word trinity, but bible is clear about the Father , The Son, And the Holy Spirit. three in one
Just because the word "rapture" isn't in the Bible doesn't mean the Bible don't support the idea. The scriptures were writen in Hebrew, Latin and Greek, NO ENGLISH WORDS WERE ORIGANALLY IN THE BIBLE!! But i believe that the Bible supports the idea that Christ will take home his 'bride' (those with a saving relationship with Christ). Whether iit will look like it id in the "Left Behind" books is questionible. {God bless you}
The Bible also does not say the word Car, Train, Plane, etc..I am pretty sure those things are real.. The Rapture (the catching away of the saints) believers will be Met by Jesus Christ, not the Anit-Christ. I sugguest you read a bit more. Revelation, and the Book and Daniel to start.
"Rapture" is an awesome Blondie song π
"But I think it's really kind of silly to try to equate birds falling out of the sky with some kind of an end-times theory."
And the rest of the fantasies that you choose to emmerse yourself in aren't silly as well? If there ever was a clear-case of the pot calling the kettle black....
Well, glad we got that all cleared up.
I'm sleeping better already.
ITβS FRACKING around the sensitive fault lines in Arkansas. Just take the time to see how many new quakes and quake swarms happened in GUY, AR in 2010. The fracking has released poisonous gases into water supplies that are killing the most sensitive of fish (100,000 fish (primarily drum) in Roseville, AR) and birds (5,000 primarily red-winged blackbirds Beebe, AR). A lot of the other media attention about a few hundred birds killed by farmers here and there is mostly propaganda to hide what is going on in Arkansas. Watch for other species to experience mass kills in Arkansas or neighboring states. Fracking is releasing carcinogens (among other things) into our waterways. Today itβs fish and birds; tomorrow itβs deer and dogs. Wake up!
Or 5000 cats. Or 5000 Arkansans. Or 5000 religious nuts. Or 5000 people who can't spell on the internets.
1. Lol @ tina.
2. This is the entertainment section and he is an actor so I think this article is just an entertaning bit of reading.
3. How is this fracking killing animals in Europe and New Zealand? Are they nearer to Arkansas than I though?
Hey...I am an Arkansans so James Bond and Tina Yothers...just be quiet! It is sad that you would want ANY animal to die or people for that matter...what a tacky thing to say.
I meant to say "I'm an Arkansan"
Trouble reading? "A lot of the other media attention about a few hundred birds killed by farmers here and there is mostly propaganda to hide what is going on in Arkansas." Other Mass kills are sad in their own rite, however the hype is just propaganda to further the cover up. My guess is you've never even cracked open "Art of War" (Cracked open is an older reference that those of us who read books use). But hey what do I know know, I'm just an Arkansan!
Are you FRACKING kidding me??? Having a FRACKING great time reading the numerous replies to the original post...keep on entertaining people!!!!
@Tina, better make that 4999 people who can't spell since Internet is capitalized and doesn't have an "s" on the end (because there's only one it's singular, not plural). But don't worry you should have lots of company.
Why do people keep saying "internets?!" I am no expert, but I do believe that is incorrect. Also, why would they want to ask this man about the dead birds?! The only thing that non-Cameron followers would know him as an expert at, is acting. The so called experts have said that dead birds in Arkansas, Louisiana, and Sweden are dead because of internal blows. That is not an explenation. What is causing these deaths would be more helpful. Something scientific please. It just seems to me that these "experts" are covering something up, because as I am Googling on the Internet, I see that there have been more bird deaths in other places in some of the headlines.
Nikki, Google Charles Fort.
No FRACKING way.
@Thinkingman- there is no reason to capitalize internet as it is not a proper noun. And as for Tina adding an 's' to the end of internet, it's a tongue in cheek reference to GW Bush's slip up when he in fact referred to the internet as "the internets". Pretty common knowledge.
I believe you are onto something, As I was born and raised in oklahoma, and live in north texas now. growing up I do not recall there even being tiny earthquakes. Ones that you can't feel, but since 2000 oklahoma started having lots of earthquakes, ones that we felt. Just recently one took place that was big enough that from South KS to North Texas "dallas" felt it.
I know that Ark.has also been having them.
I know from watching Geographic channel, there are 5 super volcanoes,
1. Yellowstone Caldera –
2 .La Garita Caldera
3. Long Valley Caldera
4. Toba Caldera
5. Taupo Volcano
Fracking, yeah. You're fracking nuts.
Doesn't anyone see the correlation? It's WALMART's fault that the animals are all dying. It's all that cheap labor!!!
Well, for once he didn't actually SOUND like a crackpot religious zelot. It was more like "don't worry about the end of the world, let's fix the situation we're in right now" kind of thing. If he had been acting like a crackpot he probably WOULD have said "It's the end of the world, sinners repent"
I have information on Kirk Cameron.
They expected him to start moaning that it was the end of the world and everyone should buy his new book about gay people and bananas before the crocoducks come for them. Even he was too smart to give them a sound bite.