December 9th, 2010
12:04 PM ET
Aaron Sorkin aims, fires at 'Sarah Palin's Alaska'Hopefully, Sarah Palin wasn't fishing for compliments when she went caribou hunting on a recent episode of "Sarah Palin's Alaska." In a blog on the Huffington Post yesterday, screenwriter Aaron Sorkin called the former governor of Alaska "deranged" and told TLC, which airs Palin's reality show, that it should be ashamed of itself. Though Palin had already said of the hunting episode, "Unless you’ve never worn leather shoes, sat upon a leather couch or eaten a piece of meat, save your condemnation,” that didn't stop Sorkin.
"Like 95% of the people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem eating meat or wearing a belt," he wrote. "But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals." More importantly, he told Palin, "I'm able to make a distinction between you and me without feeling the least bit hypocritical. I don't watch snuff films and you make them. You weren't killing that animal for food or shelter or even fashion, you were killing it for fun. You enjoy killing animals." "The Social Network" writer, who referred to Palin as a "phony pioneer girl," also accused her of killing caribou for political gain. "You knew there'd be a protest from PETA and you knew that would be an opportunity to hate on some people, you witless bully," he wrote. "What a uniter you'd be - bringing the right together with the far right." In response, TLC told CNN that they have "no comment" to Sorkin's post.
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i think it is ok to hunt the population of game and wildlife is important if you do not kill some ithe deer or whatever game will starve and some hunters will donate meat to the hungry and the poor who cant offord meat and there are many rules to responsible hunting
Most non hunters are not aware that almost 80%of all revenue from hunting license and ammunition goes to conservation of animals and sanctuaries of wild life. There are T.V show dedicated only to hunting games. There are many rules and heavy fines if disregarded. There are responsible hunters that are offended by the remarks of non hunters who care not to research the sport, and have them starve or hit on our free ways looking for food
Aaron Sorkin is of course a complete retard for going after hunting – there are all kinds of good reasons hunting HAS TO exist – mostly because game exists in areas where we don't want wild predators stalking our children, so someone has to control the population to cover for the fact we took all of those guys out of the equation. I can see where he's not comfortable killing his own meals, but I hope he's a vegetarian if he thinks and talks like that.
That being said, Sarah Palin is clearly demonstrating just what a complete manipulative liar she is by being such a crappy hunter. The shooting wolves out of helicopters thing is obviously false, as she doesn't know the first thing about how to hit a freaking caribou from the ground. Learn how to shoot on a range, you callous jacka**, the thing deserves a clean lights out shot first time.
We really need to stay on top of how people are using the new political media channels. We run the risk of having opportunistic carpetbaggers like Mrs. Palin take over our country. She can't even comprehend that the job she is running for is more of a responsibility than an opportunity.
Maybe she can go hunting with Dick (I'm not trying to use his first name) Cheney and get shot in the face. And then make a publicity stunt and apologize to him for getting in front of his gun. Because after all, guns don't kill people....
Come on people what is up with all this hate. I agree I think Sarah would not make a good president and I think she should not run, but it doesn't mean she is not a great person. I don't know her personally and I believe most of these people on here do not know her personally as well, so why all the negative comments about Sarah as a person. Yes, I think the show is a little staged, but aren't all reality shows. For the people out there that say they were just hunting for the fun of it, not true. They took the meat home to process it and stock up their freezer to eat. Hunting is fun, it's a fun sport along with great food for the table. I don't know one hunter that actually cries over his hunt and doesn't get excited after he kills whatever he is hunting. Maybe Sarah is living the good life and has money now to do these things nothing to be jealous about.
Why should we be surprised the a cokehead New Yawker...and moveon.org member...has a problem with someone...anyone...hunting? And why is this news? My guess is that he's attention-starved and had his publicist call in. If Sarah Palin is attention-seeking, she at least is paying her own bills. This creep isn't relevant to anyone but himself – read his bio, a legend in his own mind.
I'm pretty far left and find Sarah Palin's popularity revolting and an embarrassment to the US. At the same time it is just as sickening to hear such a narrow minded bigot as Sorkin speak from the left podium. He is clearly in the Mel Gibson class.
So the execution style killing of confined and force fed animals is morally superior to putting in the freezer a free range, near zero carbon impact, hormone free animal. I think not!
Wow! Hey. Hunters are cowards. Getting up at 4:00am and entering the freezing woodland, suffering the fridged weather, sometimes days on end to kill an animal for food is so much more cowardly than ordering a pizza waiting through that grueling 30 minute delivery time while watching John Stewart on your pleather couch ain't it?
Just remember. Without deer hunters in your midst the deer would over populate and wreak havoc on the soy bean and corn crops.
No more tofu and polentas for you.
Over population also increases the number car strikes. No doubt the frontal shape of you Prius is ideal to send a deer right into your lap. Good luck with that.
So this drug addicted Hollywood type that thinks he can give obscenity filled advice to the rest of the nation. Anybody really take this guy seriously?
good stuff and I am into the posts but what about the ugly issue of collusion in online poker?
Quite a few of the people that posted comments need to look up the meaning of "ignorant" and then run those comments through a spell checker.
I have no problem with hunting. I just hate it when the media talk about the bimbo all day.
I am amazed that hunters get so defensive when someone questions their "sport". Cowards is what they are. Put the gun down and hunt. Chasing a wild animal with a deadly weapon and calling it "sport" is as ignorant as you come. Get out there and make it a game. Take that animal on with your own bare hands. No? What, you might get your wittle self hurt?
Controlling the population? Who put you in charge of life and death? If you are so enlightened and privileged to be at your gods right hand, then do some population control and start with your own species the true plight on this earth. No? why?
Yeah, do it the CIVILIZED way by going to the supermarket and buying the stuff that is neatly sealed in plastic. Who needs to kill animals when you can pay someone else do it for you. On the same subject, get your milk from plastic bottles and leave the cows alone.
Sorkin don't hate awoman who can do things you can't .this woman is a true american. There's pepole who pay to
have animals killed to have something pretty to wrap up in orto have somethingto hang on their wall to feel manly.if she were aman it would alright you would be bonding with her
Old man McCain should be flogged daily for introducing this idiot into our lives... WHO BTW WILL NOT GO THE F$%K AWAY!
I agree- as with the Clintons, Palin is like a turd that won't flush down.
HUGE LMAOs at all YOU LEMMINGS!!!
Sarah Palin is proof that the Republican party is full of anti-deluvian troglodite who are just one step removed from eating there own crap..After all we liberals are smarter and a step up the evolutionary scale.
Brett, you write like a Child Who Was Left Behind. Try proofreading before you demonstrate your ignorance of English.
Yes and if you'd take your thumb off that scale, you'd see that evolution is weighing against you.
Hey ppl, your a$$ is showing! how many times do i have to say it??? leave her alone! guess what! she'll go away then!!!
Ah, Alaska, the rednecks of the north.
You know, there are hunting shows on everyday on the Outdoor channel, yet you never hear about PETA or anyone else raising a fuss about it in the news. Sarah Palin goes hunting on her show and suddenly everyone jumps out of the woodwork to make a big deal out of it. They are just attacking the person...not the action.
I watched her show and it's boring, If Sarah Palin wan't John McCain's running mate she would be a nobody from Alaska now she is a celeberity who wants to be President (that's not going to happen). I'm tired of seeing Sarah Palin everyday on the Internet, on TV, in the Paper come on enough is enough already. Her show should be yanked.
And who is this Sorkin guy and why should I care about what he thinks? Oh, wait, one of those guys from Hollyweird, who makes movies and thinks that makes him important and smarter than the rest of us...
I never understood this obsession against Sarah Palin. Technically, she wasn't even running against Obama, she was running against Biden...and yet the media wanted to compare her to Obama! "Sarah-Haters" are crazy. Until she decides to run for president, quit worrying about her.
to think that there are MANY people who are smitten with this witch when she obviously doesn't understand that as a parent of a special needs child she needs to STAY AT HOME AND TAKE CARE of the child, not traipse around the country hawking marginal books of her going rogue or her vision (neoconic in nature) of America. Please GO BACK TO ALASKA AND STAY THERE! or has the State of Alaska gotten a restraining order against you and you can't go back?! Probably.
Ahhh yes...so easy to sit back and judge others.
Who is aaron sorkin?
Sarah Palin is about one thing and one thing only – Sarah Palin. She is without question the most dangerous woman on the planet. Woe to us all if she actually woos the American people into voting her into the White House. It would be the greatest political catastrophe since Adolf Hitler took over Germany.
hurrah for sara, i just love her philosophy. don't retreat,just reload.
Who cares what this ignorant moron says. Just like the typical anti hunter who will set a mouse trap in their house and kill a mouse but killing a game animal for consumption is murder. This animal should live but that one can die. Swastikas anyone?
Thanks...glad I'm not the only one who sees the Hitler parallel.
The more people criticize Paula the more famous she gets [unfortunately], this guy just is extenting Sarah Palin's
[now 30] minutes of fame!
For Gods sake, let her fade away.
Agreed. Just as Michael Moore's juvenile tactics got Dubya elected for a second term.
If the statement "we are the company we keep"is true aren't some folks arguments that this whole thing was staged for personal and political gain confirmed by next weeks guest. Quite possibly the most self absorbed person on the planet today, the one, the only (thank God) Kate Gosselin.Really folks I'm a republican and even I can see this woman has started her run for the White House through this carefully staged infomercial.Maybe she's considering Kate as a running mate.
This woman is no more a hunter than I am. She is phony and putting on a show for all the fools that buy into her crap. All she is trying to do is get hunters and gun rights activists on her side. Its acting people! She is playing a role to get your votes. Wake up!
Sorkin said Palin was deranged, and I take issue with him on that. Sarah Palin would have to have some mental faculties that were arranged first before they could become deranged. The first is absolutely a prerequisite for the latter.
Is everyone forgetting a well-known fact: SARAH PALIN DOESN'T COOK. So her hunting is pointless and purely for show.
Who is this guy? What a jerk. Who cares what he thinks? And before you ask, I read it trying to figure out who this guy was and why is his opinion worth publishing. I found out it wasn't.
I can't support anyone who LIKES to kill animals, and Sarah obviously does. If she likes to shoot guns, then she can go to a target range. That's fun, harmless, and a sport. In this day and age, only Eskimos and a few other groups of people really have to kill animals for survival. Sarah doesn't. She should run to the nearest supermarket for her food. Killing wolves is just as bad. Now she's screwing up the balance of nature.
@carter:
and yer feelings on those foks pickin yer mcnuggets off the mcnuggets tree?
This is the LAST person we need to hearing GAB about someone. A MAN that says LIKE in almost every sentence that spews forth from his horrid mouth. 'Nough said.
I farted. It smelled like rotten eggs. Gave me wood.
Aaron Sorkin = witty, but stupid
Maybe someone will mistake her for a moose, or a horse's ass, or a screech owl, the next time she goes hunting, and take a shot at her.
another conservative elitist phony. those right wing elitist idiots time is over
Ummm..I'm bored. I would love to hunt Palins for sport.. lol. Kill them all let God sort them out.
it is easy for him to say bad things about her. just another liberal phony upset that thier precious Obama is failing.
He's right, she's a sociopath – like Mike Huckabee's lardass dog-hanging son.
Isn't it time for Sarah and her annoying family to shut up? Their 15 minutes of fame has gone on long enough
Bravo, Aaron Sorkin! Sarah Palin is indeed a witless bully whose heart is cold and judgmental. Just another stunt from Palin that is offensive and cruel. Go get her, PETA!!!
To SUNI – Calling those who disagree with Palin "pathetic" and "ugly" shows me that you are either as dumb as she or you don't know what she really stands for. Take a look at her writings, and then see if you still support the "world figure" (sorry, Suni, it's not for positive reasons) that is Sarah Palin.
I suppose Sorkin would say it is wrong to kill any animal for any reason. I have the feeling if he was being attacked by a wild animal and the only way he would live is to kill it, he'd be saying just let it eat me.
Mr. Sorkin is spot-on with his comments! The program is a joke because Ms. Palin is a joke!
Sadly, so many mindless people in our country actually give this pitiful publicity who*e a great deal of credibility.
The over reaction to Sarah Palins popularity really gets to me. Are people that worried that her solid thoughts and her strong opinions which she is not AFRAID to share will keep getting the well deserved attention that it already receives, it will only get better with time for her i do believe. The comment that Mr. Sorkin made
About her slaughtering animals on tv has me really upset because in order to slam her i feel he has slammed true spirited hunters all over Alaska. We live in NJ and my husband is an avid hunter who has hunted Alaska with friends who own a secondary home in Alaska for the past 14 years on and off, knows Alaska and the hunt and shooting a caribou or any animal you hunt there is very rewarding, you might even see him dance a bit at that accomplishment. The meat is contributed to the people who live locally. that is NOT slaughtering just because the ever gracious strong sarah plain shot it. Alaska also makes well needed money for the tags you have to buy to have the privilege to hunt in their beautiful state. Are all real time shows 100 percent real? I DON'T think SO! The show brings Alaska, a beautiful state, right to our living room. I think a script writer should appreciate that. Don't let political views cloud the beauty of that part of the country which she is trying to bring to us. Thanks for your time this post is not about politics it's about a sport like any other sport. It's not slaughtering animals just because she hunted it!
Love the Show and Enjoy every minute of it! And you folks who don't like – nobody ties you to chair and force you to watch right?
do something else with your life and find something important to do then just sit and learn to hate and become a really sorry person!! Who really gives a darn if you watch or not – really!! Sarah Palin is known world wide, she is world figure now while you sorry bodies are not even recognized in your neighborhood!!! No wonder we hear the unemployment rate in America is gone close to 10%, Pathetic folks like you..cannot succeed in life and are jealous with who do! Ugly folks are the ones who hate everyone who is beautiful inside or out!!! We outside of America watch Sarah Palin and her show and thoroughly enjoy it! Great Show...Love it!
@tcp....
She flew in on a helicopter and brought food with her... so she killed an animal just for the fun of it...
she didn't even get passed algebra 2....
that means people who took trig. and over are better and smarter at math then she is...
she is a pathetic loser...
Wow! you are a great historian, thanks for palin's short Bio, we already know it but thanks for annoying us a little more!
i think Sarah explained in the beginning of the episode that they were hunting for meat to feed their families this winter. I guess this jerk missed that part. In addition, if one was hunting for the fun of it, why would one go to the trouble and the yuckiness to skin the meat off the bones, put it in a bag and take it all the way back to Wasilla to cut it up and freeze it. What part of this episode did he watch? i enjoy watching this show because i am learning about Alaska and seeing parts of the state that no one ever sees just by looking at a book or on the internet. The family stuff is funny and cute, but not the purpose of my watching the show.
I actually DID watch the episode. I have no problem with hunting for food. I don't have any particular problem with Sarah Palin. My problem, with this show, was the constant repeated (ad nauseum) reference to her lifelong hunting history with her father and her family. The woman couldn't rack or load her own gun. She wore inappropriate footwear. And, I want to know who was carrying her hair and makeup case, because she had on a LOAD of makeup during her "camp out" and my hair NEVER looks like that after 2 days camping. It was really just silly and very fake. Every time she took a shot and her Dad re-loaded for her, I squirmed, because I was embarrassed for them. It was really humiliating. I have seen a lot of women hunters and NO ONE racks or loads their gun for them. Also, her comments saying something to the effect that if something happend to them way out there, they couldn't expect any help were just really dumb, because they had an entire film crew with them! I think folks who really KNOW guns, hunting and the great outdoors would be the most embarrassed of all for her and her Dad. Anyway, it was all just pretty sad and fakey.
Why didn't they edit out what you call the parts that supposedly embarassed her? Showing her flaws made it more believable.
Kudos for Alan Sorkin. Palin sounds like she is hyperventilating when she is about to slaughter another member of the sea or land. She's disgusting and frightening and probably slightly insane. Perfect for Republicans.
"...slaughter another member of the sea or land..."??? what were you meaning to say? That sentence is nonsensical. Oh, never mind – I see it a bit later... "...probably insanse" – I was confused since you took a tick to get to the name calling.
The left is such a bastion of intellect and right-thinking! (sarcasm – in case you missed it)
Sorkin is absolutely right. If you don't think there's something wrong with killing animals for fun (oh right, it's "sport") you are sick. Hunters are sadistic cowards that are compensating for the lack of power and substance in their lives by taking the lives of innocent animals so they can feel powerful and macho. If any of you rabid right-wingers could think and actually reflect on something, you'd see that it's not about killing animals per se, and that's not hypocrisy. Those of us that don't eat meat think it is wrong to do so, and that's a personal choice, but some of us also think that there's a humane way to raise and kill animals for food, leather etc. and it has nothing to do with hunting in this day and age, and it most certainly doesn't involve having fun while killing.
You "think" it's wrong to do so. So what? She and a long (down the length of all known history) tradition of responsible hunters feel otherwise. Who are you to judge? Oh yeah, you are the perfect: the all knowing: the judgemental: the left.
I agree with you....
killing animals is not a sport it is a way of torturing animals...
we have a voice they do not so we are their voice...
speak out for them
You pinheads better not own any dogs. Or are they vegan as well?
What a bunch of useless blather is on here. Hunting is at the pointy end of the evolutionary spear – a fact of existence. If you eat meat, wear leather, sit on a leather couch, etc. you either hunt or someone else hunts for you via a mechanized chain of farm-animal production. "Tortured animals..."...."killing for fun..." SUCH CRAP! You people wouldn't last a day if not supported and insulated from teh facts of life.
What a poof! Of course he and everyone he knows feels that way! They are insualted form the reality of their position in the food chain, well removed from teh facts of life.
if she shooting caribou for food, fine. but if she shooting caribou and left it in the wild, thats wrong. i lived in alaska for 7 years and I've seen some waste dead animals in the wild, bears, moose and etc. they didn't even cut meat or fur.
They packed it out, carried it hundreds of miles home, and processed it. You should see the episode – it did you and your state proud!
Killing a defenseless animal – Discovery Channel had bad advice putting her on the air. Our family would never watch such tasteless tv. It is a blessing to see someone make an educated statement about Sarah Palin. She loves to be in the media and has made a lot of money. She should donate money to animal rescue groups,
sarah baby says that wolves are killing off the caribou herds and need to be killed off...shot from planes and helicopters and the pups poisoned in their dens....wolves kill the sick and old and hunters like sarah kill off the biggest and strongest..the trophy animals....she loves to kill
She is a big dumb***. She probably doesn't know what poison is, that is how stupid she is...
@brad...
wow, you are actually standing up for her? god, you must be a member of the tea party movement... which a complete waste of time...
Don't know what show Sorkin was watching, but it was different than the Caribou episode I saw. Folks like Sorkin would not have survived as an American settler when hunting was the only way you ate. The fact that Alaskan's, along with other Americans, still embrace that way of life is fantastic. Palin did not torture any animals. She shot it, and it fell dead. Not torture. Look it up in the dictionary. And Sorkin flat out lied when he said when he accused her of not using the animal for food. I saw it go in her fridge. I don't hunt and don't intend to. But it is fascinating to learn the process of how we end up eating our fish and our red meat. It doesn't magically come from a factory. You would like people like sad Sorkin would understand that their rage against the Palin's and expression thereof, only make most normal people admire the Palin's even more. They are not so bright.
"I saw it go in her fridge." LOL!!!
Don't be a fool. Of course, she's going to show it going to into her fridge. That's so no one will question her reasons. But we all know that she loved shooting that defenseless animal and does it for sport.
iho – you are you a pshycic? She relished the killing? That's why she did it? Way to reflect your (defenseless) agenda on others.
If she was killing it to eat it....so what! If she was killing it for sport...so what! Here in the land of plenty, not many people have to kill their own food in order to survive. That's why it's called Sport Hunting....duh!! There's a whole slew of industries devoted to it (hunting rifles, outdoor gear, boots, clothes etc) just to name a few.
If the IDIOTS at PETA had their way, we'd all ride bicycles so we didn't kill any armadillo's or possums, or squirrels, or turtles on the roads. It's an animal for Pete's sake. Contrary to what these nut jobs think, it's life isn't as valuable as yours or mine. Now, I'm not saying that we ought to just kill it and let it lay. All the hunters I know DO eat the meat. First of all it tastes good, but also it would be irresponsible not to. Believe it or not, most hunters care as much or more so about the environment and wildlife than anyone from PETA (yes, even more the Pam Anderson).
Glad to hear that you supported Micheal Vick too. He did it for fun too, but the difference is that he went to jail.
Glad to hear u like killing animals... not really...
their lives are just as freaking important as our...
yes she killed for food...ok... then eat it... she ate it then ok... but why kill a big caribou?
cant u go for a smaller one???
people at PETA are not idiots ur the idiot... they just care about animals and the environment a lot... and dont want people to kill them and leave the dead bodies there...
they want to stop poachers.... dumb***, so dont talk if u dont freaking know what ur saying... a piece of advice
So is PETA going to go after that Wasilla Witch like they did Michael Vick??? Michael is remorseful and paid his debt to society. Silly Sarah shot a caribou on national TV and loved it. When is she going to be arrested for animal cruelty??? And don't give me that BULL that she did it to feed her family. She did it for sport and does more of it when the cameras are not rolling. I bet if you walked into her home, you would see stuff moose hanging on her living room wall. COME ON PETA, GO AFTER THIS IMBECILE JUST LIKE YOU DID MIKE VICK!!!!
I agree. Sarah Palin is an idiot and I wish she'd go away!
She ain't the imbicile. Walk to your bathroom, turn on the light, look in the mirror....there ya go.
We need to stop giving her publicity... she needs to stop with this nonsense...
who ever said that we need to watch this show to know about it?
and it is not a sport if it is not in the olympics.... so suck it
Yawn... Your pet cat eats animals. Or your bichon frize... Whatever.
Me? I'm a proud PETA: People eatin them animals. Yeah, lame joke.
MBA
GW YOU ARE A RETARD US HUNTING IS A NATURAL PART OF LIFE YOU TREE HUGGER
AND YES YOU ARE A RETARD
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I bet Sarah would love this post.
It only cost about $37,000.00 to hunt that animal, but at least she has food on her table.
And people made a big deal about Michael Vick, Whats the difference!! oh yea i know.....
You hit it right on the nose hahaha!
Wow! I am so amazed at so much time Americans spend on Hating, You jump from news to news online and
pick time to type idiotic and non-educated comments for world to see and read, Be ashamed of yourselves!
I am not an American and thus can watch shows with different perspective and neutrally without bias, Since
I purely watch and learn something about the land I have never been to and don't know about, It opens my mind
to learn about the way of life for some, and if hunting or fishing is part of that life – so be it.
Hating is consuming your lives and destroying you, Before you judge someone else, take a look at your own
lives and families.
Now coming to Sarah Palin, She is doing right for her native region Alaska! I see absolutely no wrong, I see her
promoting Alaska in a very healthy way, They fish and hunt for food, what I saw very clearly was her and her family
cleaning meat, curing it and then wrapping up in the freezer for winter, this is 1 hour show and you must be kidding
yourselves if they have to show all details of processing -(but then you will be complaining about that too – right??)
Even with editing I understand the continuity and Palin family is very genuine, at times Sarah have absolutely no make-up,
She is naturally beautiful woman and so are her Children (you may hate me for saying that too- right?).
Anyone who has different opinion then yours – you hate, That is how you are raised and are very poor souls,
You have never lived in Alaska and yet think you are educated to make such idiotic comments? that says more about
your hateful and jealous nature. Sad, Sad people really. All this time you spend on hating and commenting on Sarah
Palin without really knowing her or Alaska you should be looking for real jobs.
The jokes on you American Idiots..World is laughing at your comments you make about your own Country man while
she is educating us about your Country and her region she is proud to be native off.
Calling Sarah Palin names like Biatch or POS is really making you look real trashy to the world while your names
appear beside your comments, how classy is that?
Who should us around the World love more? You who seems real trashy or Sarah Palin who is educating us with
this show? Clear choice is Sarah Palin... You loose! Go Sarah we all over the world love you and are proud of you
and your family and off course your pride Alaska!!
I wish this lady would just go away!!!
I'm with you 110%
The meaning of sports should be. Properly (re)define.There Should be a law that says...if u kill it intentionally, u eat it!
I'm sorry...but she was killing for fun. She doesn't need the meat. I'm sure she goes to the grocery store like 98percent of us do!
I actually like sara palin but this was just flat out cruel and that animal died for tv
ratings. My family hunts here in the northeast but they eat all of the animal and have morals such as not killing a mama deer that has a fawn, they would NEVER kill an animal for pure enjoyment!
Obviously every one of you care about Palin. You all took the time to write something and keep this crap going. This is a non-story. Just let Palin fade away... pay her no attention. But I'll bet you all slow down to check out the accident on the interstate as well. Oh well....
You're taking the time to comment too...
Democrats have become a party of homely fat women, misfits, and men without ba!!s.
Sorkin sucks!
He is just jealous and probably still sleeps with security blanket!
This idiot Sorkin needs to talk with people outside Hollyweird.
If Sarah Palin must be on TV, then reality TV is the place.
Good for Sorkin! Palin, like everyone who hunts, is a gutless coward. Wanna prove your manhood Palin? Then go to Iraq and/or Afghanistan where the "prey" shoots back.
GW YOU ARE A RETARD US HUNTING IS A NATURAL PART OF LIFE YOU TREE HUGGER
AND YES YOU ARE A RETARD
Geez – NOT hanging upside down! Guess I better slow down!
Oops – I meant to say while the cows were still alive – bot hanging upside down twice! HAHA
People on both sides make comments without foundation. Sorkin is an intellectual, and wickedly witty, but is either uninformed or unwilling to admit the validity of another point of view on this issue. In this case, his comments mirror the same lack of foundation Palin demonstrates in her opinion on a variety of issues. Unfortunately, in an effort to promote their personal points of view, they have ignorance in common.
And WHO is Aaron Sorkin? Never heard of this idiot anyway. Its called HUNTING you dork! People have done it since the beginning of time. That animal didnt suffer – you want to see tortured animals, watch some of the videos from animal rendering plants where chickens are stuffed in small crates and cows are hung upside down and get their throats slit while hanging upside down – all so you can have a nice steak dinner and leather seats in your Mercedes! Hypocrite who is just trying to get some screen time by soaking off of Sarah's pubilicity!
I used to eat animal flesh, but no longer do so. I realized that it's cruel and unnecessary. Also, it's hypocritical to eat some animals like cows, chickens and pigs, but love animals like dogs and cats. Flesh eaters suck.
Hey, you go Aaron.I have been trying to figure out a term for Sarah and I think "witless bully" captures it perfectly. And for those of you who like to call us sniveling, tree hugging PETA loving, and self-righteous, thank you. At least we're not among the jack booted republican bully thugs who are trying to make the rich richer while screwing the rest of us, AGAIN.
You sniveling, tree-hugging, PETA-loving, self-righteous libs just cannot stand it that America has rejected you, can you? You are yesterday's news. No one cares. You will never possess significant control of the nation. You are irrelevant to the future of the USA and the world. Get used to it.
I don't like Sarah Palin and I am on the left of center but Mr. Sorkin ,like many knee jerk liberals, is sadly misinformed about the animals he eats and their products such as milk and eggs. Most of them are "tortured" in filthy, over-crowded feed lots or painful cages with beaks cut off. They are sick and miserable their entire lives before they are killed for food. Really, what an ill-informed hypocrite.
I do not watch this show so I have a question. Did Palin kill this caribou because she had to do so for food needs for her family and absolutely would have done the same thing, in the same manner at the same time if cameras were not there? Or was this particular killing done solely for entertainment purposes? I'm not against hunting for food or shelter or controlling the animal population. I eat meat. But if this killing was done solely for the filming of it, then yes, that's sick and cruel. And it didn't need to be done for educational purposes because most people are already aware that some people hunt to sustain their families and their lives.
In the show it discuss' how they (the Palins) hunt every year and eat the meat thru out the winter/until its gone. It also talks about how this is NORMAL practice for most Alaskans. It shows her killing the caribou, which they tracked to find. It shows them field dressing the caribou and carrying the meat back. It then proceeds to show them processing the meat in her garage and packaging it up and sticking it in the freezer. Caribou is a natural source or meat for Alaskans. Whether she would have gone on this particular hunt w or w/o cameras is up for you to decide. I tend to believe her. Also, hunting provides healthier meat choices...they are not full of hormones or steriods. So while, yes, she could have gone to the grocery store, this is a better option in my opinion.
Leave Sarah alone. I mean leave her ALONE. Don't speak of her, watch her, acknowledge her, go to her events, you name it. Maybe we will finally be over this marginal character. She serves no purpose. She is in the same category as Paris Hilton. Lot's of attention but nothing to offer.
Why is it that these Hollywood types love to tell the rest of us how we should be living and thinking? The deer population in my state is so enormous that if the hunters didn't hunt them, in a controlled and legal manner, the deer would starve to death. Now that's real torture Mr. Sorkin. Meanwhile, our families are fed, our homeless shelters are provided meat, and the herds are thinned to a manageable state. The Palins had a freezer full of meat and fish. I doubt it was all for show. Her husband is part Native Eskimo. And while Mr. Sorkin is undoubtly served his meat on a silver platter out there in Hollywood, the Palins actually hunt their own-get over it.
Another ignoramus from Hollyweird spouting off their opinion when no one asked for it. Last time I checked, this was a free country and you could hunt (or not) if you want to. While I myself have no desire to do so, I'm sick of the "politically correct" Hollyweird imposing their opinions on the rest of us just because the press laps up everything that spews forth from their big mouths. Get a life Aaron – no one cares what your opinion is (about anything).
@ Shirley...please, put the crack pipe down. Sarah Palin is a festering pile of stinking white trailer trash. Nothing more. Now accept it and get on with your life.
I have hunted all my life, and constantly watch hunting shows, and I have never seen a hunter pull the bolt, ejecting the shell for another hunter. She portrays herself as an avid hunter, and she obviously is not one.
Did She fly into a game unit and hunt the same day? Against Alaska game/hunting laws. Is the meat hanging and going to be eaten by someone, if not time to hunt the Palin worms. I don't care if it goes to a homeless shelter as long as it is food for people. If the rack is hanging in TLCs lobby and the meat in the tundra, bad business. PS She still a fake
No, they did not hunt the same day they flew in. The set up camp and went to bed. The cleaned the carcass in the field (field dressing) Cut away all the meat they could and carried it back to camp. It showed the cleaned carcass that was left behind. IT also showed them processing the meat at her house...packaging and putting it in the freezer. How about you actually watch the episode BEFORE your speak!
Its the pleasure that one takes in killing that separates leather wearers and Sarah. I understand the instinct, but we are not animals so much anymore. Hunting for fun is just sick.
I hate sarah palin, but who is this dude?
Hahahahahahaha!!! I never knew much about Sorkin, but I like this guy.
Then Chappy you don't know much at all do you? lol
Saran Palin if she the great hunter It make her look like why didn't know were the safety was, and went she miss why did that man have to pull the bolt back for her. I think she nothing but a big joke and It just more lie she been telling. Saran Palin will never be QUALIFIED to run for any PUBLIC OFFICE.
John there is a REAL REAL good chance she can come in and clean up after Obama, and I truly believe she would not have us in the mountain of debt like he does. He is a joke to our country. She would be very good in public office!
Shirley, you are crazy if you think palin would be good in office. If obama had a backbone, he could clean up bush's debt by ending the stupid bush tax cuts. That would be 1/3 of the debt, anyway.
Chuck I said good in office not President. I really like her and think she would be good in Washington, she is straight up. Obama is not qualified to run this country, it's very very embarassing watching our troops having to salute this idiot. Anybody at this point would be better than him. Not that he has a backbone he's NOT QUALIFIED, he wants to be a celebrity.
We we played into her hands again. First, she does something that many people find annoying. Then, someone dares to criticize her about it, it sets off an internet feeding frenzy, detractors criticize her, supporters stand up for her and her ghost writer puts together a Facebook post and Tweet about how the poor Sarah is picked on by those mean liberals. Her supporters become even more entrenched, her name stays in the public rhelm and she is even more enriched financially. People – IGNORE HER and that goes for you Mr. Sorkin.
I highly doubt that any of the meat ended up in her freezer, just as I highly doubt that she hunts for food to begin with. Stocking her freezer for the winter? Please. It's not like she'll be stranded inside for months on end. She did this for the show.
Larry your stupid! Really buddy, just plain ole stupid. She has been hunting all her life, that's what they do in Alaska. I am soooo glad she is doing this show so stupid people like yourself can see the beauty of Alaska and to see how the natives really do live and feed their families.
And, your blind hatred towards someone you do not know, and toward something you know nothing about is so sad. It is not a wonder that so many Native Americans were wiped out by those who harbor such hatred towards some one or some thing they know nothing about. I think that the White People who have moved up to Alaska probably wanted to get away from you haters down there. The White people I know here are good people who respect our ways and many of them have adopted our ways when it comes to subsistence hunting and fishing. I am sad for you. Stay down there...
Truth! I'm with you. kalifornia sucks. I grew up here, but it has become polluted. It is a psychiatric deep end. They just keep rolling downhill towards it. Can't wait to retire and get the hell out. Waiting with amusement to watch Gov. Moonbeam Redux... It will be like Nero and Rome.
Peaked at Sarah's show, even David Hasselhoffs show those did not like, but give me some Hoarders and American Pickers. My point I like some, and other people like Sarahs; to each his own.
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Wow. The blindness of you city people is embarrassing.
Alaska native thank you! It is embarassing just how ignorant some of these people can are.
"What a uniter you'd be – bringing the right together with the far right."
That is classic! LMAO
Once again, so many ignorant comments! There is nothing wrong with killing an animal, if you use it for food. That's what they're FOR!!! If you just kill an animal, ANY animal, JUST to kill, you're mentally unstable. However, when you're hunting, truly hunting, for real game, for food, you DO pack the meat on site in places like remote Alaska. It's done ALL OVER Alaska and Canada, and in the lower 48 as well! C'mon, educate yourselves before sounding off. If you want to complain, then just don't eat meat and get out there and stop the bullets, if you want.
Can we convince Sorkin to dress up in a caribou suit and put him out in the wild of Alaska??
from what I saw in the news it looked like real sport: Palin dressed up in camoflauge shooting from a long distance wiht a high powered rifle.. I think she should go hunting with Dick Cheney. She makes me sick.
You make me sick. Crybaby.
(throws tissue box)
Jim, since you probably didn't read through everything, I'll post it again:
To all you SP haters on this thread: You really are incredibly clueless. You say that "going to the store or Costco" is far more humane than hunting wild game. That is pure and unadulterated BS. I went to college in Kansas, and in that town (Emporia) there is a slaughterhouse called "Iowa Beef". Because I have been a meat eater all of my life, I decided that I should go and see just how things worked there. And, it was a terrible experience. First of all, the cattle are held in pens before they go into the building where the mayhem begins. The cattle can smell the blood and guts of those who went before them. They get wild eyed and they bellow. They sh!t themselves. They know. And then they are led into the killing pens. In this case, it was a pneumatic "gun" place at their temples which quickly and efficiently blew their brains out. But up until that point, they knew that they were going to die. And then of course, they are processed, halved and quartered, and then hung on meat hooks in the coolers, ready for shipment.
Now, contrast that with a grazing caribou, moose, deer, or elk. I live in Alaska. I also hunt for meat. When I draw down on a moose, caribou, or deer, I always say a little prayer: "Okay God, one shot, one kill. Thanks for some help here". And I won't touch off the round until I know that it is a sure thing. And when I do? Boom. out go the lights. The animal had no idea what was going to happen. No fear, no smell of kindred blood and guts. No smell of burning bones (yeah, they cook or burn the bones at those slaughterhouses to make some damned thing or another-smells like burning human hair), and no smell of cooked blood. Yeah, they cook the blood for like fertilizer or something. Nope, none of that. Just a clean shot that puts the lights out. And ya know what? For me, that's the worse part of the hunt. I do not like to see an animal die. I am actually a "softy". But ya know what else? For me to NOT partake in the harvest of what I feed my family would be pure chickensh!t!
All of you hypocrites down there in the Lower 48 that eat your Whoppers and yer McD LTs and yer hot dogs and yer filet migon and yer rib eyes which you bought at the store because you are so "humane", are nothing but ignorant fools! I am an Alaska Native of the Raven Clan from the village of Klukwan. We have hunted for centuries, and the meat that we have enjoyed is far better than that which you purchase at Costco! But ya know what? I have lots of friends who are whites. And I do not begrudge them to hunt the same wild game that we have harvested in our subsistence hunts. It is nice to see the white people enjoy the same cultural things we have enjoyed for so long. And good for Sarah Palin too! I was proud to see our Alaskan Sister hunt as we do. And don't get it into your idealistic heads that "we Alaska Natives only hunt with bows and arrows or spears, or some such stupid idea". We use high powered rifles, and four wheelers out on the tundra and on logging roads over near Hoonah. And we even use two way radios in case we get into trouble. And we and the whites hunt respectfully and take what we need. And I make enough money to buy meat at Costco down in Juneau. But I prefer healthy meat from the land. Do I buy a nice succulent rib eye from time to time? Oh yes I do! Love them! But at least I know that I have had the balls to take the life of the creatures upon whom I have subsisted, and not let someone else do it for me! I am a Democrat. I did not vote for Joe Miller or Sarah Palin. But to hate Sarah Palin because she hunts and takes the opportunity because of her unique celebrity status to show the rest of America how so many of us live up here is something I am very proud of!
So, you hypocrites and you haters, stay down there in your festering cities where you know nothing of the Land from whence you came from so very long ago. And to you here who have respect for Life and understand that harvesting from the land is no crime or"sin", Gunalcheesh!
It is so transparent that she is not a hunter. At least she should learn how to shoot a gun before she goes on national TV and makes a fool out of her self. Don't hate her dude, I just don't have time for people that pretend to know what they're talking about.
Hey, calm down, because I am not the only non-hunter that thinks you are right. Slaughterhouses are hell, especially pig farms. I would rather eat wild game from an ethical hunter than bacon.
This ignorant woman just makes me sick. Kills for sport and flaunts her dysfunctions publicly. An absolute idiot. I lived in Alaska at one time and she doesn't represent anyone I knew. Give the animal the gun and let Sarah be the prey.
LOL>>>> Palin is the WORST thing to happen to America. I do so hope she is nominated by the republicans in 2012. Obama needs another 4 years!
I wouldn't watch this show even if I was paid.....lets give the animals weapons and let them hunt Palin. THAT, I would watch!
The animals DO have weapons, ie antlers, hundres of pounds of weight on them, speed, etc. They just lack the brains to use high powered rifles. If you don't hunt properly, you can get killed just as good as the animals do...but you just don't hear about that stuff 'cause animals are so cute and cuddly and not dangerous, right? If you had watched the show, you would've understood that true hunters understand the dangers of hunting...because when you're out hunting in those remote areas, you are PART of the food chain, not above it. The animal can have its way with you if you're not careful. Humans just have the high powered rifle, and the knowledge to use it, as the advantage.
Typical left wing Hollywood nut job, next he'll vote for making that Army traitor a hero in Berkley
Hunting for necessary food is one thing. Hunting for a TV show or for the "thrill of the kill" is nothing more than a primitive blood sport which disrespects all life and shows one's true nature. She can buy all the food she needs. Leave the game animals to those who can't.
Money isn't the issue. It costs LOTS of money to hunt in places like remote Alaska. You have to buy your gear, ie rifle, camping equipment, etc...you have to pay for transportation (it took two flights to get to where they hunted). You can't just show up with a gun and expect to leave with meat for your freezer. You need resources to do that. The meat is just fresher and healthier. So it's not a question of rich/poor, it's about efficiency and self-sufficiency.
Sarah Palin needs to be slapped up the backside of her head.
I'm far from a Sarah Palin fan and never thought I'd need to defend her, but Sorkin is an idiot. Torturing animals? Really dude? His pretentiousness is pathetic. The only thing that was torturous was Palin missing the freaking thing 5 times before actually hitting it.
Bullwinkle thinks Moron Snorking is hot, Rocky is jealous.
No Art – the real embarrassment to American is the current inhabitant of the Oval Office.
You know, for thousands of years, it was OK to hunt, and now all of a sudden, it's not! And don't tell me that now we have supermarkets. Have you seen slaughterhouses where they kill those animals for the supermarket?!? Now tell me, which way is more humane? Sarah Palin is awesome.
No. She is not awesome. She is a POS.
Palintwit really?? seriously you know nothing why are you commenting on something you know nothing about?? Your the POS here
Aaron, if you are trying to give this lady more publicity or churn up more interest in her show, you've succeeded. Congratulations.
All you hunters out there I urge you to google hunters against peta.
Like I said in my prior post...All of the "reality shows" are nothing about reality, they are all staged, or as you put it "edited"..
Just a for instance...Her dad warning her to approach the animal with caution to make sure it is dead...Of course the camerman is already past the trio and is standing over the animal taking its picture...
I don't think her dad was doing it for her benefit. In hunter safty class they teach you that. (its a required class you have to pass before you can get you hunting license) I think it was a well placed warning to the audience watching. That just b/c you think its dead doesnt always mean it. Or he was just watching out for his daughter. I think my father would have said the same thing.
Also, you are the one who really thought they put the camera up to the scope....lol. Yes, there is editing, but they did not put a camera up to the scope of the gun to get the view of the caribou!
All of you far left tree huggers and animal lovers get off your high horse! Who cares about Sarah Palin shooting a Caribou? The only thing that upsets me is that she should've shot a Caribou with a bigger rack!
Every one of you complaining about her killing the Caribou are hypocrits. Oh it's cruel to kill animals that way. Why torture animals? Why do this, why do that? Take a look at what happens in these turkey farms and cattle farms that you get your precious meat from. If you think that what she did to that Caribou is torture, then you don't know what the heck you're talking about. At least the Caribou and other wild game have a fighting chance. These cattle and turkeys, among many other animals are raised to be food, and ONLY food. They are crammed into these small areas, and the ones that are sick, are killed and just left lay in a nice big pile. Look it up sometime and educate yourselves before you complain about someone shooting an animal and using it for food. I am, by no means, promoting shooting an animal and letting it lay. However, I have no issue with using the meat from the animal.
Sorry I didn't watch the show, but I did see the shoot on one of the talk shows...From what I saw I believe the whole shot was staged..Reason is it showed her aiming at the beautiful animal, and then you are looking through the scopes crosshairs on the animal....Could someone explain to me how we could be looking through the scope as she was fireing, unless it was staged??Also I think this shows that Levi's claim she falsely bragged about being a gun expert..Someone actually got the gun ready to shoot, not her?? Come on people we all know that "reality shows" are all staged..
Its called editing. They can edit the "crosshairs" to make it appear as tho you are seeing what she is seeing....lol....thanks for a good laugh!
To all you SP haters on this thread: You really are incredibly clueless. You say that "going to the store or Costco" is far more humane than hunting wild game. That is pure and unadulterated BS. I went to college in Kansas, and in that town (Emporia) there is a slaughterhouse called "Iowa Beef". Because I have been a meat eater all of my life, I decided that I should go and see just how things worked there. And, it was a terrible experience. First of all, the cattle are held in pens before they go into the building where the mayhem begins. The cattle can smell the blood and guts of those who went before them. They get wild eyed and they bellow. They sh!t themselves. They know. And then they are led into the killing pens. In this case, it was a pneumatic "gun" place at their temples which quickly and efficiently blew their brains out. But up until that point, they knew that they were going to die. And then of course, they are processed, halved and quartered, and then hung on meat hooks in the coolers, ready for shipment.
Now, contrast that with a grazing caribou, moose, deer, or elk. I live in Alaska. I also hunt for meat. When I draw down on a moose, caribou, or deer, I always say a little prayer: "Okay God, one shot, one kill. Thanks for some help here". And I won't touch off the round until I know that it is a sure thing. And when I do? Boom. out go the lights. The animal had no idea what was going to happen. No fear, no smell of kindred blood and guts. No smell of burning bones (yeah, they cook or burn the bones at those slaughterhouses to make some damned thing or another-smells like burning human hair), and no smell of cooked blood. Yeah, they cook the blood for like fertilizer or something. Nope, none of that. Just a clean shot that puts the lights out. And ya know what? For me, that's the worse part of the hunt. I do not like to see an animal die. I am actually a "softy". But ya know what else? For me to NOT partake in the harvest of what I feed my family would be pure chickensh!t!
All of you hypocrites down there in the Lower 48 that eat your Whoppers and yer McD LTs and yer hot dogs and yer filet migon and yer rib eyes which you bought at the store because you are so "humane", are nothing but ignorant fools! I am an Alaska Native of the Raven Clan from the village of Klukwan. We have hunted for centuries, and the meat that we have enjoyed is far better than that which you purchase at Costco! But ya know what? I have lots of friends who are whites. And I do not begrudge them to hunt the same wild game that we have harvested in our subsistence hunts. It is nice to see the white people enjoy the same cultural things we have enjoyed for so long. And good for Sarah Palin too! I was proud to see our Alaskan Sister hunt as we do. And don't get it into your idealistic heads that "we Alaska Natives only hunt with bows and arrows or spears, or some such stupid idea". We use high powered rifles, and four wheelers out on the tundra and on logging roads over near Hoonah. And we even use two way radios in case we get into trouble. And we and the whites hunt respectfully and take what we need. And I make enough money to buy meat at Costco down in Juneau. But I prefer healthy meat from the land. Do I buy a nice succulent rib eye from time to time? Oh yes I do! Love them! But at least I know that I have had the balls to take the life of the creatures upon whom I have subsisted, and not let someone else do it for me! I am a Democrat. I did not vote for Joe Miller or Sarah Palin. But to hate Sarah Palin because she hunts and takes the opportunity because of her unique celebrity status to show the rest of America how so many of us live up here is something I am very proud of!
So, you hypocrites and you haters, stay down there in your festering cities where you know nothing of the Land from whence you came from so very long ago. And to you here who have respect for Life and understand that harvesting from the land is no crime or"sin", Gunalsheesh!
Very well said, Glad to see someone else from Southeast, AK with a voice on here. 🙂
Could not have said it better myself. You must have posted this as I was posting my comment, or I would have saved myself a lot of typing 🙂 lol. Well put!!!
Well said Alaska Native! Well said. I have been to your great state and I appreciate the land and the people there. The folks in the lower 48 are clueless, but are great at passing judgment
Wow, you're a regular Jeremiah Johnson. It really brings a tear to the eye... I also grew up in the wilderness, in hunting, and ranching country, and yes, city folk can be a little unrealistic and annoying, but that does not change the fact that Palin and Cheney are sphincters, who know that these hunting trips warm the hearts of middle class morons everywhere, and keep them from noticing that Reagan really raised their taxes, because, you know, reading & adding is for liberal intellectual snobs, by God...
Amen brother!
@ mcee
Huh? My income went way the hell up under Reagan, and my taxes down... And I'm not a lawyer, or a businessman, or a trader, or a used car salesman, or an accountant, or anyone else of devious means.
An FYI, if you will from an Alaskan born and raised, a majority of people here hunt and fish. partly because it is better and fresher product but also because we have very few shopping options in AK. It must be a big supermarket where you shop if they carry caribou, I have never seen it for sale here. (that is in response to all you people who say she should spend the money at a store since she is rich) Also about shooting wolves from planes they do that in lots of states it is called population control, look it up. the state takes it very seriously and sometimes it has to be done when wolves start moving into town and endangering lives. Lastly I know most of you will never meet Mrs. Palin and are calling her a "Barbie" but I have met her a bunch of times and she is a very real person who does a lot of very nice things for this state that she doesn't take any credit for. so if you don't like her, ignore her and don't vote for her if you do like her great too, I personally hope she doesn't win a presidential election because I am proud to have her in my state and supporting it with pride.
People actually watched the program????? Well, for the moment at least, the U.S is still sort of a free country!
I am a member of Michigan Sportsman's PETA chapter.... People Eating Tasty Animals... I know old but just had to post it.
Sorkin 2012!!!
I live in Alaska. I am not a Palin fan. I do not hunt but I do not frown upon it either because I see the necessity here in our great state. When done right, hunting is fine, i.e., no animal should suffer; the food should not be wasted; and all regulations (licenses, regulated areas, etc.) should be followed. Palin abided. Whether she filled her own freezer or donated it, that is her business. Animals for food is a fact of life whether one agrees or not. I, personally, could not shoot a gun at an animal but again, since moving here 20 years ago, I understand this now. My freezer is filled with caribou, bear and moose meat from my friends that hunt and share. This is a way of life up here. Wasting is deeply frowned upon and people are greatly fined for this. There is no way Palin wasted the meat. Again: I am not a Palin backer. People from the Lower 48 must comprehend the way of life up here before judging. It is just that different. I was a City Person thru-and-thru, anti-hunting before moving here.
PS: Loved the comment about "hunting for cows!"
The Palin family does not depend on Sarah's killing of a Caribu for meat on their table, shoes on their feet or belts on their pants. Stop the phony nonsense, Sarah. Sarah does however have a taste for killing and blood. The fact that you really did not know how to handle the fire arm correctly without help tells the real story. Ratings!! Killing a beautiful animal, lt's all about......Ratings!! So, Sarah, did you enjoy the meat from this elegant but dead animal or did you give the dead animal away? Or throw it away? You see Sarah and the rest of the Palins, get their meat the same way most of us do–(in her case) by having some flunky go to the grocery store. Oh, and by the way I don't watch this show (side show), I saw this unfortunately on several different news shows. The news shows need to stop running this crap.
Sarah Palin baby name suggestions: Rutabaga, Claptrap, Checkvalve, Pinworm, Thumper, Fargo, Spatula, ...please note that these names are appropriate for either male or female newborns.
Lived in Alaska for 20 years – went to supermarkets to buy my food. Yes there are hunting seasons, and some people are allowed to do subsistence hunting. I doubt the Palin's really need to. Wasilla is a good sized town and has shopping and they can drive into Anchorage to shop. This was strictly for show, don't kid yourself and don't let her fool you.
Ever heard the term" comfort food"? To me that is what wild meat, fish and birds are,even if my family could afford to buy meat from the store here in rural Alaska it is nowhere near as satisfying.[20 years and 450 miles off the road system]
She is as much of a fraud as Bush the Second was. All hat, no cattle. All that's missing is a press confrence while she cuts some brush. Hunting for food is fine, hell in this economy it is necessary in many homes. I eat meat and I wear leather. I also buy my meat from a local farmer who lets it be in a pasture and eat grass. Same with the chicken and the eggs, I want the antibiotics I take to be the ones MY doctor prescribes, not my dinner's vet. Shame she can't promote the good people and beautiful scenery of Alaska as much as she promotes herself. She's vain, selfish, lazy, rude, and ill educated. I knew why there was a North and a South Korea, I paid attention in History class in Junior High.
Uh anyone ever hear of a super market? Many people acatually SHOP for their food there...oh maybe Mrs. Palin cannot afford to do so...
Meat in the supermarkets are injected w/ steriods to help the animal get bigger quicker...Meat killed in the wild is a TON more healthy. So why you can rely on your supermarket meat, some of us like to have things a bit more natural!
I don't understand all the hate for Sarah Palin. I couldn't care less about Sarah therefore what she does or say – I don't care. Why in the world all these Sarah haters continued to talk about her? It just makes her stronger – duh. Stop talking about Sarah if you don't like her! Make her "Go Away" in your head and out of YOUR OWN LIFE! As long as people talk about her – she will remain in our media and politic. Also, if you don't like Sarah – don't listen to what she has to say or watch her on TV. Sarah is making money and laughing all the way to the bank - thanks to the haters and the lovers.
coming from the fan side of things, I 100% agree with that statement you made. If you don't like her, don't bother with her. I don't like brussel sprouts, but you don't see me telling everyone why I hate brussel sprouts and what is so horrible about them, because it would be a waste of my time and energy. And before anyone says I can't compare a political figure with brussel sprouts, I just used that example to stay on topic rather than picking a person, but you could insert any dislike in that spot.
For all of you non hunters, there are many americans that hunt for their food. It is healthier then the chemicals you
eat from that which you buy in the store and it actually has flavor. It"s called NATURAL. It is actually better for you
as it has less fat. In Alaska it's a way of life.
Wow, talk about Obsession! Every day CNN is running some article about someone saying something about Sarah or Bristol Palin, or about how people "love to hate" them – they figured out they're onto a winner with these articles!
Some of these comments are just crazy. If you don't want to see Sarah Palin hunt, then don't watch. By the way, there are whole TV networks dedicated to hunting. Why dosen't Sorkin complain about those. Go Sarah! You kick butt and take names (and you are smoking hot!)
None of the hunters on those shows want to be President. If they did, I imagine Sorkin would have similar things to say to them. Or a different reason: None of the hunters on those shows have a significantly large cult following. Or: None of the hunters on those shows are constantly squeezing themselves into the limelight for everyone to see.
There's a lot of reason that Sorkin doesn't complain about those guys.
Who is Aaron Sorkin and why should I care about his opinion ? Be funny to see him dropped in Alaska with one of the Alaska experiment groups that survives on what they can catch, kill or find.
Aaron Sorkin has been successful in his field much, much longer than Palin. He's had multiple TV shows last longer than Palin's entire poltiical career. One of which was more politcally informed than the former VP candidate. SO, I think that qualifies him to comment on politics.
As for dropping him in ALaska...what's the point of this. He never made claims of being an outdoorsman. You're point is that Palin is better than Sorkin at something he hasn't done and doesn't want to do. If that's how Palin needs to judge her success, she's worse off than I thought.
@ Kevin: you are right, he commented on things he has no interest in ...so why make the comment? He wasn't talking about anything political he was just grabbing his chance to jump on the bandwagon and bash Palin
I've been doing my whole life. Most of the people I know hunt. I don't understand why you would be OK with cow, pigs and chickens being slaughtered in mass but be outraged because I carry my rifle into the woods and kill a deer. For some reason you think that the fact that I enjoy doing it makes it wrong....I disagree.
"But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals."
Silly statement by someone who has no idea what he is talking about.
Trust me on this, there is much lees torture going on the the woods than in the slaughter house.
Coming from someone who job it is to make up stories, really?
Here's your sport hunting result, luddites!
http://mdc.mo.gov/hunting-trapping/deer/share-harvest
Yes, Stephanie! A great idea for a "reality" show: 'Palin & Cheney Go Hunting.' Blindfolded. Fully loaded.
didn't think there was any reason to blindfold Cheney, he managed to shoot a guy in the face without one, being the tough survivalist hunter he is.
Did this guy not hear the part where Palin says specifically they stock their freezer with the meat they hunt, and use it through the winter? Does he think it's more noble somehow to buy the meat disguised in little packages at the grocery store than to get it yourself? What a maroon, as Bugs Bunny has been quoted as saying.
Sorkin obviously didn't watch the full episode since Palin took the caribou home and put it in her freezer. She DID kill the animal for food. Sorkin lost the arguement for me when he said, "you weren't killing that animal for food".
She's got you hook, line, and sinker. Maybe she did on this particular show, but if so....it was all about the show! Because, everything this woman does is about the show. You saw exactly what she wanted you to see, whether there's any truth behind it you have no idea.
@I_laugh: using your same reasoning, you have no idea that she didn't really put that meat in her freezer and eat it.
They need to create a new Barbie doll called " Bogus Hunting Barbie". The Doll can be equiped with fashion boots, makup, and an AK47.
YOU bbeter try this http://www.SUPERSONIC.US.COM
"Unless you’ve never worn leather shoes, sat upon a leather couch or eaten a piece of meat, save your condemnation,”
Nevermind that those are practical uses, not sport or entertainment.
Nevermind that meat has a practical use....as in food! Need it to live! Last time I checked you can have a couch made of fabric – shoes too for that matter. Nevermind!
I am not a fan of Mrs. Palin, I think she is a phony, and I think she is a dangerous partisan that does nothing more than polarize a country that at this point really needs to come together instead. That said, she is no longer governor, and if she wants to do a reality show fine. If you are honest with yourself you know that there are far worse reality shows with much less substance on the TV. Try being at least a little objective... all hating on everything she does accomplishes is to bury legitimate concerns with the effect she has on the political situation in the US. And to Sarah who reads these things a lot... Try thinking about how to bring your countrymen TOGETHER instead of tearing them apart. A selfless christian such as yourself should be putting the country ahead of her own agenda no?
*Like* – I'd say that was "Fair and Balanced"!
Most of you people are such weak weak pathetic excuses for animals. You like to feel bad about everything don't you. So someone likes to hunt and kill just for the fun of it, so what. People have been doing this for centuries. Animals (cats) like to kill for fun too. Have you even seen a cat play with and kill a bird and then just leave it there to rot? I have. And don't give me that people are better than animals bit either. For one thing if people are better than animals then why do so many of you like animals better than people? and B – people are not better than animals, just smarter and better at killing. This is the world as nature intended. Only people so far removed (americans) from the realities of the world and nature could be arrogant enough to look down their noses at others for doing what comes natural. KILLING for any and all reasons. When the apocalypse comes I will eat those of you who haven't perished from your idiocy yet.
if she didn't have a camara crew and her husband and an ammunition silo, she'd be dead 1 mile from home, she's dumber than a box of rocks.
Debbie....ya b/c she has a camera crew following her her entire life....
I believe what Aaron was trying to say was -
Like 95% of the drug-taking people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem snorting coke or shooting heroin," he wrote. "But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of growing and cultivating it myself."
For those who don't know – this hypocrite dabbled in booger sugar for many years...clean out our own closet before spitting venom on others. Can't shoot a wild animal for fun but support the drug cartels of South America is 'a-ok'!
Great job – a$$
Since it's finals season for college students across America:
Sorry, KJ, you fail Logic 101. You're inability to grasp the simple tenets of the course vis-a-vis the proper construction of arguments without fallacious premises makes it impossible for me to pass you in good faith.
Have a great winter break.
Sorry Kevin you failed in failing me as the top line was a direct quote from Aaron Sorkin – as for your grasp of 50pt scrabble words 'vis-a-vis' - nice try, maybe if you understood your cpu you could have wrote it correctly Vis-à-Vis (with the accent). Nice try - see you next semester.
SSSSMACK!
She needs to go hunting with Dick Cheney.
If someone hunts and then eats the meat... well, the animal they ate got to live its whole live llving free in the wild, whereas the animal whose meat is bought at the supermarket lived its whole life in captivity, force-fed hormones, steroids, and unnatural food, pumped full of antibiotics, living knee deep in its own feces, breeding e-coli in its gut, only to die "painlessly". I respect arguments against hunting from vegan-diet-and-fiber wearers, but the reality is that every animal ever born will die... I think a better question to ask is about the quality of their life before they die.
...now I'm having nightmares about people applying my rationale to people ("murder is okay, since everyone will die, anyway!). Just to be clear, I'm starting from the viewpoint of a carnivorous society, assuming that we think it's okay to kill animals in order to eat their meat. Like I said, I respect arguments put forth by vegan-diet-and-fiber-wearers since they don't necessarily start from that same viewpoint. Anyone who does eat meat or wear animal products, however, is giving tacit concent to humans killing animals to use their body parts, and my challenge is to those people.
I have no problem with her hunting, it was when she approached the mama grizzly with cubs to fight over a fish with small kids in her boat she showed what a freaking moron she is, go get her own fish. A responsible hunter would NEVER do that!
Debbie, are you serious? She went fishing next to a spot where a bear and her cubs happened to be...there was no tug of war over a fish like you are making it sound. Hundreds of Thousands if not millions of people go fishing every year...is that a crime now just because there might be some wildlife standing close by? I think people just hate her to hate her, and they have no real reason other than it is popular to do so. And really, why waste so much time hating someone for no good reason?
Thank you Mr Sorkin could not have said it better myself,this woman is really an embarrassment to America
Unfortunately it'll never happen, but wouldn't you just LOVE to watch a pack of animals with guns hunting Sarah Palin down in her Alaska wilderness. The Hunter never knows what it's like until they become the Hunted.
Don't bother posting me down; I know I'm delusional...
the coke head had to watch Palin's show so he could denounce it, correct? The coke head, Sorkin, helped Palin's ratings. I'm not sure I want a coke head like Sorkin determining what the country watches on TV.
Is the coke head preposing that we CENSURE Palin and take her show off the air? What's wrong with people making their OWN decisions about what they watch?
I've watched a few of the coke head's tv shows and they are OK. Perhaps he should stick to making TV shows and doing cocaine rather than being critical of others.
I know you were trying to discredit Sorkin by calling him a coke head 53 times in you post. But even if he only comes off as just as rational (and has had FAR more sustained succes than Palin), assuming he's the coke head you want us to see him as, doesn't this just make a sober Palin look that much more pathetic?
My respect for Aaron Sorkin went WAY up.
We need more high-profile types like him (hell anyone who can get a microphone) to speak against this disease of humanity called The Palins.
Now its the whole family? What upstanding good family did you come from? Broken family? No father? Drunk Mother? Nice judgement, hater!
She held a beating fish heart in her hands and crushed it. She supported the aerial hunting of wolves and bears and the bounty for severed front paws of wolves. This woman is evil, souless, money motivated and one to abandon her responsibilities because "it's tough to govern". GOD help us if the nutters put her on the ballot.
Did you actually watch the episode, or just going by rumors? Cuz, I watched it, and yes she held the beating heart...I sure didn't see her or her daughter crush it....don't comment on things you don't know anything about just to jump on the sarahhaters bandwagon....
Sorkin is a waste and a hack. He is a nobody. Who cares what he thinks or writes? Hunting and fishing or eating meat has NOTHING to do with this 'hate story' that he wrote. If she was drawing a picture with a pencil, he would decry the pain that the tree went through to give her the paper. He is a non constructive bully and just because he does not like a person's politics he TRIES to undermine them so that other sheep will go through his slaugher door instead of the other.
and yet I can think of one bigger waste and hack, Palin
Who cares what Sorkin thinks? Well, who cares what Palin thinks? She's the one who's trying to get elected, yet she's less qualified for her ambition that Sorkin is for his job. I care what Sorkin says, and what Palin says too.
What, you think only people in POLITICS should talk about politics? Get stuffed.
say what you will but when the people of the State of Alaska loathe her, the candidate she supported in the November election LOSES we can only wonder at what it is that they know that we don't. She is incapable of understanding the complexity the macro/micro economics of a geo-political event. She is, simply put an embarrassment to the US and the State of Alaska and to humankind as a whole. And truly you are the nutter that I was worried about putting her on the ballot.
In other words, Sorkin that those who hunt are deranged. That's a lot of people! Hunting is a game – yes, I get that. We can do without but killing is killing. If you buy a piece of meat from a grocery store or hunt and kill an animal for their fur, meat or just for fun. Killing is killing. The only person who should be offended by Palin’s action is vegetarians!
Thank you, Mr. Sorkin, for telling it like it is!
Who really watches this stuff. Is beating a fish to death and killing an unsuspecting Caribou with a high powered rifle entertainment? I would guess it's the same people who watch Dancing with the Stars, Skating with the Stars and American Idol. Reality TV at it's finest!
and taking small children up close and personal with a mamma grizzly and her cubs, can anyone be any more of a total idiot?
Sorkin "Hmmm...wonder what might be a good way to make myself known/heard...oooo, I know I'll criticize Sarah Palin" Anyone else wanna jump on the band wagon?
"...make myself known/heard...oooo, I know I'll criticize Sarah Palin"
Not really. Making fun of Sarah is not a way to become noticed, it's way too easy. We'd all be famous if we received any notoriety for criticizing Palin. She makes it so easy to criticize her, even children know she's a punchline.
I personally am kinda glad the media continues to force feed her to us, because I like to laugh!! Laughing is fun, and she never fails to provide all sorts of comedy. Her entire life is comedic. Wonder how it feels to be a laughingstock? She certainly doesn't care, as long as she continues to reap the profits. What a laughable P.O.S. she is!!!!!
I despise Sarah tremendously! I don't have a problem with people eating meat. I have problem in the way the animal is killed for OUR enjoyment. Even at the slaughter houses it is so inhumane! But to hunt for the thrill of killing is IMO, a huge reflection on that person. How can anybody kill an innocent animal "just for the heck of it"? So Sarah can defend her killings all she wants, but it will STILL say "KILLER" on her forehead! Biatch.
If hunting is your bag, then that's fine with me, just as long as the animal is hunted for food. Whoever the idiot was that said that, " In real hunting, the prey has a chance. That's the real thrill of hunting, is the hunt. The kill is the culmination of a good hunt...", are you for real? The prey has a chance? REALLY? The hunter uses high-tech weapons, blinds, decoys, etc. What chance does the prey have?
Hunting is NOT a sport, either. The prey doesn't even know it's playing, so it can't be called a "sport". If you want us to call it a sport, then the hunter and the prey should be in a confined space, and the hunter cannot have any weapons at all. THEN...it would be a sport. Cage match vs. a bear, caribou or elk...I'd pay to see THAT.
The prey doesn't have a chance, are you kidding? As someone who has hunted, the prey usually escapes. These animals know they are being hunted every day of their lives, that is the world they live in. If not from humans than from other animals such as bears and wolves. Their hearing, eyesight, sense of smell, etc, is so much better than ours they could smell us a mile away and avoid us, we would never even know they were there.
lol...Have you ever tried to hit waterfowl? Deer hunting in a stand w/ a rifle may be fairly easy, but try hitting a moving bird. The decoys and calls just help the ducks find a spot to land. The hunter has to be able to identify the duck (some you can not shoot or have a smaller limit) and then hit it as its buzzing by....yup, super easy....
The part that really pi$$ed me off is when she took those small kids on the lake up to get fish first from a grizzly and it's cubs, she didn't need the fish, and if momma bear had reacted I'm sure they'd killed her and left the cubs orphans, all for show, what a worthless POS she is.
WOW! Seriously, do you EVER leave the confines of your home?
Do you honestly think they were that close to the momma bear and her cubs? Camera angles can play tricks with the eye. I am sure the driver of the boat (it was a charted one) would not take them close enough to get injured (hello lawsuit!) Calm down now!
To all of you people out there. One legal hunting has never lead to excinction. Two she is hunting legally. PETA can kiss my butt. Let Sarah Palin be Sarah Palin. If she wants to hunt let her hunt. There is a lot of great hunting in AK. So what she shot a caribou. OH NO some tell the village elders. Wild game is a lot better for you than store bought. She is also making her carbon footprint smaller. She is also weeding out the weak ones from the herd thus for ensure their survial. So for all you enviro whack nuts there you go. Everyone else if you don't like her don't watch her show. If she is on TV change the channel. Nice and easy. Morons. By the the in celebration of the seasons. MERRY CHRISTMAS. If I offened someone. Who cares! Have a nice day
AMEN! PETA= People Eating Tasty Animals!
Don't you morons have anything better to argue about. Who cares we have real issues in this world to worry about.
Does anyone actually believe Palin would go hunting or ride a snowmobile without the cameras around? Her whole life is one big look at me moment.
you people are all ignorant! If you watched the show before criticizing it like this idiot, you would know that at the very beginning she states that she has to go hunting for meat. Maybe she does hunt for sport like hundreds of thousands of people do every year, but, like other hunters, she eats the meat of the animals she kills. Some people will find anything to complain about if it's popular to not like someone.
"you people are all ignorant"
Yep. Sarah Fan, complete with blanketing stereotypes and limited reason. Your name and your comment says enough. "Stop picking on pooooor Sarah..." Well, if she'd get her face out of my news and off the TV, she wouldn't need you to defend her idiocy. As far as I am concerned, this publicity vampire deserves it.
Ignorant?! 'sarahfan' calling us ignorant. Oh, the irony. I'd say anyone who's actually a 'fan' of this woman is ignorant, because they ignore a lot of unseemly details that no one could be a fan of.
"...at the very beginning she states that she has to go hunting for meat." Are you for real?! Who cares what she said on the show? There is nothing this woman says or does that is not self-serving. Sure, she may have said that on the show, but how on earth could you actually believe her?!?
As someone who hunts every winter, I can tell you that if it wasn't a clean kill, the meat was tainted by the animal's pain and fear, and is inedible.
Thank you Lori. I don't hunt, but support an ethical kill where the animal is consumed and respected in death. Sarah Palin does not give a damn about animals. The heads on her wall and the lack of pets in the home tell the tale.
Sarah Palin is the ultimate attention hound. Everything she does and says is calculated to kick up controversy so that she can self-righteously decry the "liberal media" witch hunt. I'm so sick of hearing about her.
well thought post – i agree with you...while i personally condone killing for killing, she is doing it for attention/spotlight/media...what is so terribly wrong with her psychy that she craves what she detests??? what a sad sad individual...
Who is this guy and what planet does he live on.. Sounds like he is the one looking for a little press time
–"Like 95% of the people I know, I don't have a visceral (look it up) problem eating meat or wearing a belt," he wrote. "But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals."--For the most part those animals raised on huge beef farms and stuff are tortured far worse than this caribou was! When a hunter hunts, they aim to kill. The animal lives a natural live (not in a tiny stall in its own feces injected w/ steriods so it can grow bigger than normal) Hunters also are the ones who put the most money into conservation. Look at wetlands conservation. The ones that give the most money are those who hunt waterfowl. Hunting also helps eliminate disease. If the deer hunting were outlawed, deer would all die off from disease. There would be no control b/c they reproduce every year and in the midwest have very minimal preditors around. Their population would spiral out of control until they all died from disease. Look at snow geese, their population is getting out of control. They are RUINING the tundra's up north. That's why there is a high bag number for them. There are lots of positives to hunting. Just b/c you are scared of a gun or of hunting and eating NATURAL meat do not tell others they should not do it. How the H*LL do you think humans have survived???
Right -on! Almost all of my yearly donations go to non-profit orgs like Trout Unlimited. Hunters have always been the largest conservationists – Theodore Roosevelt (big hunter) was good friends with John Muir (non-hunter) and both did great things in preserving our wildlands.
I am not a big fan of "sport hunting" or killing animals for the sake of killing them, but that being said, Sorkin is either a hypocrite or very ignorant. Has he ever seen, heard or watched anything on how inhumanely the animals we use for food are treated? "But like absolutely everybody I know, I don't relish the idea of torturing animals." But I bet he likes his relish on those animals once they are killed and butchered and served to him. I think he is using HIS pulpit to further HIS own agenda in this instance.
Have any of you watched the show or are you spouting off at the mouth without any knowledge of what you are stating. Not only did she and her father hike all day (hunting the caribu) she further explained that:
1. Alaska Fish and Game regulations and hunting quotas and the reasoning to thin out the heards
2. The need for meat in her freezer
3. Thanked the animal for giving up its life to sustain hers and her families.
They even show her processing the meat (looks like she has done it before) and putting it in her freezer.
I would say that is a pretty responsible hunter. She didn't disrespect the animal in anyway! People who hate will hate – get over it.
Nugent for President! I may be a redneck A$$%^%& to some of you, but I will cherish every freedom this country and our troops provide! Long live ethical hunting and the great outdoors.
3. – ???? Thanking the animal for giving its life so Palin and her family can sustain theirs??? Is this a joke? This woman is worth millions and laughing all the way to the bank. At this point, her so called hunting is strictly for sport and, in this case, to make headlines. Sarah is all about Sarah, always has been and always will be. Just watch, it won't be long before the Palin clan will be packing their bags to move to Hollywood although that might have to wait until after her failed Presidential bid. I can't believe how gullible people are. Sarah Palin is a user, she uses her kids, husband, and anything else within her sight and reach for political and/or personal gain. And, by the way, anyone who condones hunting wolves from helicopters lacks compassion and has no heart. Sarah takes first prize in that department. Those who like her better take a good hard look at themselves.....
sorkin whos that at least we have heard of sarah palin. And from the rest of the hunters out here you wouldnt go hunting if you didnt enjoy killing the animals DUH!!!! Thats why they call it hunting. And how do you know that the animals wasnt being used for food was you hunting with them, NO1 Then hush cause your just talking out your butt unless you was there to know. And I hunt because I like to kill furry animals and eat them.
Were you at Michael Vick's watching the dog fights too? I guess you were a big supporter of his and thought he was railroaded for a harmless sport.
I would personally be too embarrassed as an American were that woman ever to have any form of elected authoritarian rule again. I'm already embarrassed as a human being that she willfully hunts for no useful reason except for her own narcissistic gain.
As a meat eater, I fully understand the argument that some may find it hypocritical to condemn a person who hunts. But if I had a choice of "filling my freezer with meat" by going to Costco or hunting the animal down myself and watching it die at my hands, I would choose Costco, as most people with means (like Palin) would. I don't enjoy killing an animal (although I enjoy eating them) and unlike the native Americans who had a spiritual connection with the prey they killed and ate to survive, I'm going to guess Palin enjoys the killing part of the hunt as well. While there are surely differences, just HOW different is Sarah Palin's enjoyment of killing an animal for sport (there is no argument here about her need for meat, she can buy it and her choice to hunt is based on the enjoyment of the kill) and Michael Vick's dog fighting? Can she possibly have self-righteous stance against the likes of Michael Vick, or is she by association forced to understand on some level why dog fighting is ok?
Store boughten meat is full of steriods...the caribou she killed is all natural meat. Nothing fake about it. I, personally, believe that one of the reason's for more obese kids is all the steriods and stuff in food these days. There is no doubt the caribou she killed is a TON healthier then the meat in the freezer section at cosco...
John, while I can't speak for every hunter, I can say that for a lot of us we are not in it for the "thrill of the kill". We profoundly respect the life we are taking to provide food for our families. It is not done out of malice or some gory desire. We face the fact that as meat-eaters, we are predators, and have the responsibility to make as quick and clean a kill as possible. Also, we don't just grab a couple pounds of meat and call it a day – most of us use pretty much the whole animal, and even the hide, If we can't cure the skin ourselves, we give it to someone who can. We don't just shoot animals indiscriminately for fun.
I could care less about Palin.. But there have been hunting shows on TV for ever so whats the big deal? I'm a hunter as well so I see nothing wrong with hunting. I do see something wrong with giving Palin a show though .. simply because she's a nobody.
Robert: I suspect you meant "I couldn't care less." When one says "I could care less," they are truly say they care.
Surely saftget you must have something better to do then to sit here and correct other posters grammar? if you are so brilliant that you also have the need to correct spelling perhaps you should run for office. if you can't add some positive thoughts to a discussion one might think you have run out of things to discuss, therefore, you might want to quit posting and taking up space, as I just did. Oh and YES I do have an error or two here but with the iPad as awesome as it is I really hate going back for corrections lol. So in order to give you something to do, I shall leave my errors for you. Government and politics is what it is, I just roll with it and try to enjoy the quality of my life does not matter to me if Sarah Palin hu ts or not! The economy on the whole is in trouble I am more worried about that then my grammar or spelling. Peace all enjoy your holidays.
Never ceases to amaze me how folks get riled up by this woman with or without the whole story – she was hunting for food; stocking her freezer. Oh wait, that must be a lie too. Couldn't possibly be that if she doesn't eat it she'll donate to the pantries in Anchorage or elsewhere that take wild game and feed folks that way.. But since Sorkin said it was a lie, that must be true – because believing crap spewed from a Hollywood screenwriter without question is about the same as taking her on her word or believing things happen just as taping shows them.
For people who NEED to hunt for food or if it is a part of their heritage, then I have no problem with that. As a person with money and resources, she can buy her meat and stock all the freezers in Alaska if she so desires. The only reason you would choose to hunt is for the enjoyment of it, i.e. the thrill of the kill. I like meat, but I don't like killing animals. If that makes me hypocritical, then so be it. I would rather be a meat hypocrite than a person who relishes killing animals. She is free to be that person because this is America, but just don't be sanctimonious about it and trot yourself on TV as an everyday person who hunts for need. She is as far from the average person as can be.
Sorry Anne, she wasn't hunting to stock her freezer or donate the meat (though that may very well be what she ends up doing). She was hunting solely for the publicity of it all - to curry favor with the right (NRA backers, social conservatives [because she was hunting with daddy], etc.) - while at the same time to get a rise out of the left (PETA, social progressives, etc.). This was nothing more than a PR stunt. And a rather ill-conceived one at that. Not because it didn't/won't work (I'm sure it will, and already has to certain extent). But rather because it is a prime example of how this person thinks and operates - polarize and divide. She is locker room poison for "Team America."
RIGHT ON Mr. Sorkin! RIGHT ON!!!
While as a fiscal conservative, I agree with SOME of her positions (not all), I don't think I could ever vote for her for President. Because of exactly what Mr. Sorkin said. She would be completely divisive and would not unite this country in anyway, shape or form.
Everything about Sarah Palin makes me violently ill, but I have been enjoying Jimmy Kimmel Live all week showing “Calamity Jane” trying to shoot at this poor, stupid animal over and over and over.
Both appear to be the most witless creatures alive. One is standing in the line of fire for several minutes and not moving a muscle and the other is more than happy to kill a reindeer two weeks before x-mas.
Way to go Aaron Sorkin...have always had respect for you as an artist and creator...now have additional respect for taking on Caribou Barbie...you KNOW she's going to HAVE to attack back as she does on her Twitter/FB pages. She just cannot pass up an opportunity to slap back anyone who disagrees with her. She's like a 10yrs old spoiled brat. Thanks (Penguin) Mc Cain for giving us this mess of a woman.
her show is a great way to promote her graet state. haveing stayed at wassila for an exstened perriod of time,hunting is what you do. fishing as well. great show sarah. my problem with sarah palin is this, i think she should have finished her term as govener.
She was run out of the governor's mansion because of the liberals who would not abate the attacks. It was costing Alaska too much to keep up with the ridiculous charges and distracting from the real business of governing. BTW: Why doesn't anyone attach Obama who left the Senate before his first term, huh???
Because Obama went on to become president you dimwit. He quit for a higher caling, being elected President. He didn't quit just to quit. Ignorant republicans
jcc – a little help for you and your writing, if you please. You wrote:
her show is a great way to promote her graet state. haveing stayed at wassila for an exstened perriod of time,hunting is what you do. fishing as well. great show sarah. my problem with sarah palin is this, i think she should have finished her term as govener.
I am confident you meant:
jcc
Her show is a great way to promote her great state. Having stayed in Wassila for an extened period of time, hunting is what people do; fishing, as well. Great show, Sarah! My problem with Sarah Palin is this: I think she should have finished her term as Governor.
Do your best, jcc. There are remedial courses in many communities to enhance reading, comprehension and writing.
Glass houses, Mr. "Extended."
Palin family = disgusting, stinking white trailer trash.
I don't think high cost of meat was what compelled that sad excuse of a mother/person to shoot that animal. YOU are entirely full of BS.
Nothing wrong with hunting per se, but look at how phony Caribou Barbie is. Editing out five misses and Daddy's help but portraying yourself as pioneer woman is so much like Palin's whole shtick. All dash and splash with no substance. Funny how great hunters republicans are; i.e., Dick Cheny who can't tell birds from an old man and Ted Nugent who loves to bray about his macho while hunting tame deer on Texas deer farms.
Pmaxin - Did you watch the show – they didn't edit out her five misses they showed all of them as well as proving her father wrong about the site being off. I am not a Sarah supporter nor would I want her to be my president, but some of you on here are making comments about a show you clearly have never watched. And someone made comments about buying meat at Costcos rather than hunting – have you ever lived in Alaska? I have and the cost of food up there is vastly different than in the lower 48 states...thank God for the military commissary because meat was very expensive. I hunted and fished up there to put food in my freezer – it was cheaper to go hunting and process your own meat than to buy it at the store for a huge mark-up.
she made if very clear that she wasn't hunting for sport, but to fill her family's freezer for the winter. i agree with Pristina, are you enjoying the steak, pork chop or any other meat? come on people, get a grip!
What do you want to bet that her freezer is already overfilled with fish and wildgame! It was all for the show!
@lisa – it is impossible for you to logically come to that conclusion...IMPOSSIBLE!
Actually, it is pretty easy to come to that conclusion as they're not some lower middle class family who needs to hunt to survive. They're millionaires for crying out loud. Their fridge is probably filled to the brim with top cuts of meat her assistant probably bought at the supermarket and her chef probably cooked. So, unless the cooking of the caribou is actually going to appear on an episode, no I don't expect them to actually keep and eat it. More than likely they'll just give it away, worst case scenario, they'll toss it.
I'm fine with hunting but I don't buy the argument that she does it to feed her family or save money. Jeez, she had to hire two planes/pilots to get her there. They money she spent getting to the place she could have bought the same amount of meat from the store.
Hunters hunt. Killers kill.
I wouldn't watch the show, but I do know that she's all about killing wolves from helicopters. What a coward! In real hunting, the prey has a chance. That's the real thrill of hunting, is the hunt. The kill is the culmination of a good hunt, but a real hunter always makes sure his quarry doesn't suffer for any longer than it must, and does everything in their power to end it quickly.
Hunters respect nature.
This POS wants to drill in it, and destroy it for fun.
Didn't watch the episode alert! Stop speaking from ignorance.
Great point cory!!
Sorkin’s response was typically witty and scathingly to the point:
I don’t think I will save my condemnation, you phony pioneer girl. (I’m in film and television, Cruella, and there was an insert close-up of your manicure while you were roughing it in God’s country. I know exactly how many feet off camera your hair and make-up trailer was.)
Liz,
If you have ever been in the wilderness in Alaska, you would know that there was NO way a trailer for makeup etc was anywhere around. Yes her nails were done, good for her, her business not yours. Her dad was assisting loading so she could keep her eyes on the target. That practice is done over and over in the hunting world.. You guys with your ignorant statements need to keep to yourself .Your showing your colors.
@vw – Thank you. I wasn't aware that that was a standard practice but it does make sense. Perhaps she is a good hunter after all. Considering she won the quarter from her dad for his scope not being zeroed and she put the Caribou down with the first round fired from the other guy's rifle....statement retracted!
vw:
Your teacher went over the difference between "your" and "you're" in fourth grade. Were you busy shooting animals?
She was busy killing animals, because that's what rednecks do!
@ sigh: Ouchie! Grammar police!
(runs and hides)
@ chris: And who's killin' Hillary and 'bamas filet mignon?
Eww.... Untouchables....
Chicks with guns are cool! Sit down and shut it Aaron!
Next time you people eat a steak go kill the cow yourself. Hunting is a part of life.
Sorry Pristina, that steak you ate was not hunted, but rather farmed at a slaughter house. Man hasn't hunted for food in over a hundred years. Unless you call shopping at a grocery store "hunting."
Pristina,
What a name you have. BTW, didn't say there was anything wrong with hunting your own FOOD. Sorkin has a problem with hunting for fun.
Tom: You don't know what YOU are talking about. I have a freezer full of elk and deer meat that my family lives off of all year round. We hunt our own meat (3 adults = 3 elk and 3 deer) and process the meat ourselves. Keep your conclusions for topics you actually KNOW something about.
for one thing.. you've never eatin caribou...
second, hunting is not nearly as humane as the methodologies of slaughterhouses. Unless the slaughterhouse is running an illegal operation, the animals we slaughter for food never feel pain. When hunters hunt, even though I'm generally ok with it if you keep what you kill and use it, they are far from humane.
Furthermore, hunting for fun... especially a large mammal who likely feels as much pain as you or I and may have a primitive level of consciousness... is absolutely disgusting.
Sarah Palin is the worst person in America.
Hunting for food is different than hunting for fun. If someone feels the need to go out and kill a caribou and not eat it, then there is no comparison to a person eating beef. While it is not something I would choose to partake in, I know a number of people who hunt and do so for the meat ensuring as little of the animal is wasted as is possible. Sarah Palin hunted to kill, and nothing more.
Who hunts cows?
Did ANYONE watch the show. She, her father and their friend kept the meet. They were hunting for food. She is admittedly a poor hunter (gotta' learn to rack your own weapon) but they WERE hunting for FOOD!
Alexandra. I guess that you changed channels after Sarah shot the caribou and missed the part where she and her father cut away as much meat as possible from the carcass to take home for eating later. Hunting is fun, but Sarah didn't just shoot that caribou to let it sit and rot. She and her family will be using the meat from that animal for food as well.
Chase and Tom, no offense guys, but you have serious misconceptions about how "humane" the slaughter methods used in commercial slaughterhouses really are... chickens are electrocuted, horses, cows, and pigs are shot in the head with a special bolt (but it doesn't always work the first time...) and that doesn't even cover how they are transported / corralled at the slaughterhouse. I am NOT saying that as a rant – they are the best methods we currently have to meet the high production rates required. BUT, a responsible hunter's shot is very humane, its a very quick death, and the hard fact is we need hunting to keep healthy herd populations.
Did Palin eat the kill >>
Let me correct some misconceptions;
1. Steak doesn't come from cows. Cows after roughly 5 years of being milked are ground up as fast food burgers. They are not suitable for steaks.
2. Hunting as done by Palin is no sport. On these hunting reserves, the animals are lured into a limited area in the off-season with strategic food placement. During the hunting season they wander into those same areas looking for the placed food only to find Sarah Palin and her ilk wating for them. This is NOT Ted Nugent style hunting (which is REAL hunting).
3. I watched the show. Palin is as comfortable and at ease hunting as I am with brain surgery. She behaved like a first timer. This episode was a stunt.
Here is a link to a Washington Post article dated October 21,2004. It is an article covering then-presidential-candidate John Kerry while he was on a hunting trip. My question for Mr. Sorkin is this: Since John Kerry was basically doing the same thing that Sarah Palin was doing, do those criticisms that you leveled at Sarah Palin also apply to John Kerry? Here is that link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A50527-2004Oct21.html
John Kerry wasn't doing it for a reality show, now was he?
No, he was doing it for votes. I find that much sleazier.
Slow down there, too many facts and logic for Republican bashers to handle. They can't handle all that new information, you do know that nothing new in the world has happened since Bush left office, right? They just want to say that Cheny shot someone in the face and move on, without concerning themselves with relevant or new facts.
I say it does apply equally to both. What do I win?
By the way, tu quoque (you also) is not a logical fallacy.
But, as usual, your type says "Both sides are bad – vote Republican."
"M" – What do you think Sarah was doing it for?? Future votes she hopes to get (lots of luck, Sarah). Votes and money. Sarah doesn't do anything unless there's a whole bunch of money in it for her.
Who can forget the Bush vs Kerry campaign, which I liked to call Dumbya & Dumbya-er.
I have never understood hunting for a sport. I know some people enjoy it but, it seems a bit wasteful. There really is no purpose in killing an animal just to kill one.
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Did you even WATCH the show. They were hunting for food...it's a part of life. There is this little thing called a food chain, you may have heard of it.
When I couldn't afford steaks at the supermarket, deer meat has filled my freezer. Hunting puts food on too many tables to be wrtten off as 'wasteful'. It could be argued that it's wasteful to spend big money at the grocery when you don't need to.
Yes, there is a very good reason. Without man hunting now there would be an over-population of deer to the point that many would stave to death or you can open your back yard up to them and let them wonder into town and let them get hit by a car or wonder into the local bar. Then we could have a great youtube video that would go "viral" I wish someone would kill that work "viral." or maybe this guy, again who is he and why would his opinion be important?
Being poor, my family killed and ate wild animals, including fish and birds, most of the time. They learned how from their homesteading parents and grand parents. No one. No one! hunted for the fun of it. A clean kill shot was the goal because they considered hurting animals disgusting. They considered trophy hunters disgusting. They did not hunt from the air. They carefully tracked the animals. I know because I was taught and went on some hunts. Thrill seekers, trophy hunters and poachers for the animal parts used inAsia for bogus medicine have brought the population of animals down so far it is rare anyone gets an animal now. Many trout streams have dried up due to factory farming.
Palin typifies the latter group of people. She has not one clue about hunting. It is part of her PR in attracting the lowest common denominator of citizens. Harvesting from the land, if you are poor Ii.e. need to hunt in order to survive) and know what you are doing, is find. She has neither going for her. She probably does not even know what to do with the caucus before butchering it and tucking it away in the freezer.
I suppose you think your food comes from Walmart. Just like Sarah Palin, YOU are and Idiot! And to the moron who said you dont butcher it in the field, you obviously havent hunted large game. You have to at least quarter a caribou, moose, elk etc in the field. YOu wont be able to get it out of the field otherwise. These animals are about the weight of a cow and this stuff tastes darn good. Did Palin do it for show, damn straight. But for those of us who do it for food and sport, we'll be fine while the rest of you idiots stand in the soup lines after the economy crashes again.
Yeah tcp, they were hunting for food. Sarah Palin can't afford food and must hunt for it. That's right. Moron. They were hunting because they enjoy the kill and she wants to seem like a good ol' gal. Just a regular person and not an elitist, blah blah blah. Hunters can hunt and they can enjoy it. Fine. Just call it as it is, dolt. They weren't hunting to survive – like everything in there lives, it's another publicity stunt. Useless fools.
tcp, hunting for food or for the tv cameras?
You can't tell the difference?
No need to hunt for food in 2010.
There are food stamps, wic, free food pantrys and church kitchens if someone is hungry!
Hunting and Fishing are part of American culture...We are a pioneering society and have always been able to fend for ourselves which makes us strong...I fear that America is losing touch with it's roots and as a result we're creating a population of needy, reliant individuals.. If the food industry was sabotaged by terrorists would only successful hunters & fisherman be able to survive and provide for their families??
I DONT CARIBOU SARAH PALEN
How good of a hunter can she be? Daddy had to do the bolt action on the rifle for her!!! Her hunting skills are as phony as she is
Two things, first, writing about her is empowering her. Sorkin is just adding to her power by keeping her name in the news. Second, he has the right to turn the channel and not watch her hunting caribou. Her right to hunt is the same as his right to write about I know. Why are we empowering this woman. I consider myself a conservative, why are we giving the woman power?
Factory farmed cows live in feed lots and many are diseased due to standing around day after day in the filth of all of them. They do not live a nice life and then die quickly. They are terrified by the sounds of the killing as they are not totally stupid or unaware. Free range cattle used to live normal lives, if short, for cows. The calves where not taken away from the moms. They lived in herds on rolling green grass. They just cut the diseased parts out and sell it to us.
I have never in my long life of knowing both hunters and professional guides heard of anyone butchering the meat out where you shoot it. You clean it then take it to hang in a cold place for a few days. You age it just like prime beef is aged. This helps to remove some of the over the top gamy taste. We had a professional butcher cut and wrap it for the freezer after it had aged. Birds were soaked in a brine for the same reason.
Please. She did not not even rack her own gun. Plus she was tromping around in ankle boots which got wet right away. Cute, but useless.
Meat comes from the mystical Meat Tree. Eggs are conjured. Bacon comes out of hand dryers in the bathroom. The lies of the left continue...
I have no doubt that Sarah Palin's main objective with the scene was to enhance the "salt of the earth" Mama Grizzly persona she is promoting. That said, I don't get how hunting animals is any worse than raising them and killing them in an enclosed space. And the idea that hunters should not enjoy hunting is just weird to me. Hunting - whether for food or simply to prevent overpopulation - serves a necessary purpose, and it seems bizarrely puritanical to criticize someone for "enjoying" it too much. Are there really hunters out there who sit at home and cry over what they are doing? The idea that hunting is acceptable but liking hunting isn't just doesn't make sense.
I agree with MBA...this guy is a real retard!!! Doesn't (maybe shouldn't) he find something else to do than express his silly little opinion about Sarah Palin?
Who gives a hoot what a screen writer thinks? Realy who gives a hoot what anyone conected to film thinks? Just because your in the enertainment industry, do you think you have a louder voice? Wake UP People! Next you will be gathering around a comedian in Washington at a political rally..........oooooh wait you morons already did.
And this comes from a mushroom eating drug addict... Never trust or put much faith in a dope fiend that cries when he's caught with a bag of funny mushrooms...
This whole show is phony. The episode where she's snowshoeing to the rock outcropping to go climbing? Well, according to the film crew, she was helicoptered in, didn't walk in, and then lifted by helicopter to the top of the rock. She doesn't sleep in a tent, they film it and she goes to the RV or a hotel.
Does she have to kill animals on every show? Alaska is beautiful and there are wonderful things to do that don't involve slaughtering nature's creatures.
It infuriates me that she's using my state as advertising for herself. She couldn't get elected dog catcher up here, we know the real Sarah Palin.
@ Rick Canada:
Who gives a hoot what (you) think? Really who gives a hoot what anyone conected to (you) thinks? Just because (you're) in the (hypocrite) industry, do you think (you) have a louder voice? Wake UP People! Next you will be (supporting) an (idiot) in Washington ..........oooooh wait I already did (that during the Bush era).
Sarah is already planning her next shocker's because she loves to see herself and gloat over how many responses she got – she really can't stand for attention to be off of her for 2 minutes. That's why she can't listen – she pretends to be listening, but is only thinking about what she is going to say next. This person is a real train wreck!
No matter what she does on that show, she looks so out of her element. Everything looks so contrived. She doesn't look like she is a natural at all of this that she claims she does so often. She constantly has someone around to tell her what to do and how to do it. She doesn't wreak confidence and her gift of gab is very distorted. Iw haven't even watched the show. I've gathered all of this just from seeing a variety of coverage on the news channels that favor her and those that don't.
I don't hate her or her children. I dislike the fact that she is a complete manipulator, takes a little fact and distorts it with her wild imagination...lies! She uses her children, parades them like circus animals for her own gain. She doesn't care about we the people or the USA....she cares about 'sarah all the time and just how much money can she takes from followers who haven't figured her out just yet'. She is like a metastatic disease....out to take the life out of others.
I wouldn't like this in anyone. So when she plays the victim and the martyr and self pity and then teaches the same verbiage to her children.....it is just pure disgusting. May she just go away and enjoy her stash at the expense of others.
I don't think making Sarah chief dogcatcher would work. She's so dumb that she would round up Bristol on her first day at work.
First off I am neither a Republican nor a NRA'er... However, I was not offended by what Palin did, nor was I particularly embarrassed by her shooting (they did test out the siting of the rifle she used in later scenes and determined something was off – a not altogether uncommon occurrence). As for comments made that she was "torturing" the animal; are you serious? I am an animal lover, and I would personally never participate in hunting unless I absolutely had to for survival (and even then I'd probably take up fishing cause they're not quite as cuddly with the scales and all), but what that program was showing that night was the nature of life IN ALASKA – not in LA or San Francisco. Anyone care to take any bets on how many Alaskans take down wild animals to fill their freezers every year? They took down two animals, people, not twenty. The one caribou they showed getting struck went right down – perfect placement of the bullet from what I understand. Instead of criticizing this program, or people who are apparently participating in responsible hunting practices, why don't you get off your lazy rear bumpers and go volunteer at the Humane Society or your local animal shelter?
If you have watched a commercial about her show the comment she makes in one of them "Who wants to be in a stuffy political office when you can be out here, I sure don't". a statement like that coming from a person who wants to be president. You are in meetings all day and you don't get to take vacations like that when you want to. I would not trust her as far with trying to run this country with a mind set like that.
KDMD, you're exactly right. I've been a hunter all my life. I just watched a short video of her 'hunt'. First, she didn't know how to shoulder a rifle or aim it correctly. Second, I understand it took her four shots to hit the poor thing. Which leads me to wonder what condition the animal was in. It had to be tame, deaf, drugged or retarded. Wild animals usually give you one 'opportunity', if you're skillful and real lucky. If you miss, they bolt until they're in the next county.
She's just a phony like all the other useless celebrity wannabe's. I've never seen a opportunistic family crave the limelight more than the Palins, except for maybe the Kardashians.
What I don't understand is that he called it a moose. I know lots of gay men on the east that are completely aware of what the differences are between a moose and a caribou. Just because you make a life style choice doesn't mean you are completely daft.
All "reality" television is, of course, to some extent phony because of time, logistics, camera crew, and budget limitations. Nevertheless I found Sarah Palin's Alaska caribou hunting trip with her dad and dad's friend just fine. Hunitng is what it is get over it urban effete morons! There's a lot of americans with whom this show will resonate very positively. Have you been to Cabela's lately, follks? You can't fake field butchering a freshly killed caribou. Nothing phony there! (Why would you want to?) Obviously they couldn't carry a couple hundred pounds of caribou carcass on a piper cub airplane!
Where was Aaron Sorkin when halibut were being killed for food? What about when slamon where being killed for food? A caribou gets killed and suddenly the do-gooders are up in arms. Every episode I've seen where something gets killed Sarah makes it VERY clear that this is NOT being done for fun, it's being done for FOOD.
my goodness, when i saw sarah failin palin address the nation in her zippers and black leather, one word came to my mind. "MOMMAMATRIX." if she gets elected, out will come the whips and chains. i can see her bludgeoning her way upon everyone. if you don't eat apple pie and pay homage to glenn beck and fox news you will be visited by MOMMAMATRIX. her version of reality is for you and everyone else to fawn over her. but the problem of her fawning is that she is eradicating caribou for politcal advantage. how shameful for her to shoot that caribou for a photo op. if this is presidential material, then we all are in big big trouble. i read somewhere that she will use the caribou to eat it and make clothes out of it. how admirable. i only have one question. did she ask the caribou?