November 1st, 2010
10:35 AM ET
'Dilemma' director will keep gay joke in filmVince Vaughn's "electric cars are gay" joke may have been cut from the trailer for "The Dilemma," but director Ron Howard says it's staying in the movie. Despite public outcry from both GLAAD and CNN anchor Anderson Cooper, who declared the words insensitive and harmful, Howard told the Los Angeles Times, "I believe in sensitivity but not censorship." And so viewers will hear the offending line uttered when the film arrives in theaters in January.
"Our lead character of Ronny Valentine has a mouth that sometimes gets him into trouble and he definitely flirts with the line of what's OK to say. He tries to do what's right but sometimes falls short. Who can't relate to that?" Howard asked. "It is a slight moment in 'The Dilemma' meant to demonstrate an aspect of our lead character's personality, and we never expected it to represent our intentions or the point of view of the movie or those of us who made it." That said, Howard admitted he enjoys stirring the pot and welcomes discussion and debate. "I defend the right for some people to express offense at a joke as strongly as I do the right for that joke to be in a film," Howard said. "But if storytellers, comedians, actors and artists are strong-armed into making creative changes, it will endanger comedy as both entertainment and a provoker of thought." GLAAD president Jarrett Barrios, however, told the Hollywood Reporter he believes Howard's decision is "contributing to the problem. The conversations started as a result of the community’s response to this slur will help schools, media, and parents understand the impact of the word ‘gay’ being used as a pejorative." Barrios went on, "Hopefully in the future, Universal and Ron Howard will recognize the power of their words and use their films to bring people together rather than drive us apart.” |
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Some out of work A and B list actors/actresses are bored and needed a cause to rally around..... Correct me if I am wrong but aren't these groups trying to "Bully" Ron Howard into a particular position? I mean damn.
Don't you people get it? The public was being played by the film's publicity machine. This potential stinker of a flick needed to create "a dilemma" to raise it's buzz-worthiness and save it from tanking at the box office. Nobody would have heard of this film, had this strategy not been employed. Now, the film producers have been able to drive visitors to the studio's website, and promote the storyline and characters – particularly, the lead role and his character flaw of sometimes saying the wrong thing, like, "electric cars are so gay." This has all been a publicity stunt. Free press = priceless.
Lol, this whole story reminds me so much of the Geico caveman commercials.
Except we're taking these cavemen seriously.
I've had an electric hybrid car for 10 years and for those 10 years my family and friends, including the gay ones, have referred to it as "the little gay car". So what does that tell you?
GLAAD is gay. There I said it. Electric cars are gay. Oops there I go again. Gay poeple are ...yep you guessed it...GAY. Who the *uc* cares. Everything is GAY. Get over it.
This whole issue is sooo GAY!
...took the words right out of my mouth.
I'm a gay man and do not take issue with the joke or line. Derogatory or not, PC or not, people talk this way in real life. It is a reflection of our society and culture, not a shaper of it. A director and writer should have the ability to have there characters be represented true to their nature. Besides some gay people fit stereotypes and some do not, but some things are "gay", like being over sensitive to everything being said or shown in entertainment.
The sad thing is seeing a 40 something man like Vince Vaughn acting like a South Park Character, how is that a Joke? What Integrity did Ron Howard make by keeping this "Joke"? in the silly script? Thanks for shooting so low Opie, I can only hope you have a "gay" family member in the future for it to hit home for you. The internet Bullies are foaming at the mouth over this, thanks Ron!
This entire overblown incident is retarded.
PC crapola... The gay community needs to keep thier eyes on the prize, marriage rights, equality in the military and all the rest. This stuff just makes them look petty as a movment. Rather reminds Dan Quayle taking on Murphy Brown... a TV character. Dumb then Dumb now
What the hell difference does it make – Opie hasn't had a hit since Aunt Bee and Clara made eyes at each other over a Chinese dinner in Mount Pilot. And, of course, excising words like this matter. They are demeaning and insulting and undermine equality, and anyone who doesn't agree with that, is as dense and dim-witted as Gomer Pyle, who, ironically, was played by a gay actor. But I won't go into that. Belaboring a point is so gay.
This story is so gay.
This article is gay.
Jarrett Barrios is gay...........
We can make jokes about black people, white people, fat people, thin people...I see no problem about a reference to 'gay'. We are all too sensitive!! I'm a gay man and don't get offended by much anymore.
What a shame. Howard and Vaughn obviously know who their audience is, and gays aren't part of it. Vaughn is a role model for kids and adults who want to be glib and cool. Now they'll know it's cool to denigrate gay people.
I fully the support the LGBT community in their fight for equality. But asking for censorship in a movie is going beyond equality. It's asking for special status. And that, like censorship itself, is not acceptable.
I'm offended that some losers are offended by a f***ing word. Bad enough I can't spell out f***ing and many will now attempt to obliterate "losers" from written and spoken language because I called them out on a narrow minded, BS point of view.
Hooray for Ron Howard not backing down and being PC. It's a movie folks, don't take it seriously. Ron makes wonderful movies.
If its important to the plot it stays. Good for you Ron Howard.
I have to go take a Ron Howard.
Yay!! Good for Ron, I am so tired of all the Political correctness nowadays. Its funny, that's it. Stop your whining and grow up and get a life. Nobody is scream out in outrage for all the while males, or business people who were portrayed as evil and sadistic torture loving perverts in the Girl with Dragon Tattoo, so why should this matter?.
Opie is Bald?
Screw Political Correctness, gay meant happy long before the closet door opened. So unless there's ownership rights to the word gay,,, don't be so gay.
Hey I'm fat, blonde, middle aged and was born in WV. Cut out all those jokes and the unemployment lines will be filled with comedians and late night talk show hosts. I say put on your big boy or big girl pants and move on.
I want to see movies with characters that are believable. Not un-believable. Are insensitive people common place in our society?
Does a bear krap in the woods?
Hey, Barrios, GLAAD, and Cooper. Go make your own movies and go bankrupt in the process. Fighting silly battles for gays empowers no one, you fools!
Ron Howard is right.
And besides, I know all my gay friends will appreciate a joke like that. Maybe only be sour for not having thought it up themselves.
And on a side note:
Anderson Cooper and in fact all of CNN have gone completely off the bend. They used to be the one and only objective news source worldwide but lately it's just flat, mushy, murky, overly PC.
My opinion is that they have no good leadership or too many wannabe leaders.
Come on people. I am a gay man and I am not offended by the line in the movie. GLAAD is just too sensitive and they do not speak for me. I think the cars are gay also. I am sick and tired of so-called gay groups claiming to speak for the gay community. I am gay and I am part of that community and they do not speak for me. I decide what I like or not like. I have been asked to join these types of group and i refused because they don't hav ethe right to speak for all gays. I am glad Ron is keeping the line in the movie. Enough Said!!!!
It's a problem to use "gay" in this way because the movie is a comedy and the line in meant for comedic value, not to display the character as a racist, bigot, etc. People would go CRAZY if he was saying the "N" word in a similar fashion.
Especially in light of the gay bullying and gay suicides that have been on a rise in our nation, I would expect greater responsibility, accountability, and sensitivity from Ron Howard.
From my experiences gay people love poking fun at everyone else, they are becoming the biggest hypocrites in society today. Better get back in the closet hippos, people are starting to wise up.
What experiences have these been and why are you lumping ALL gay people into being hypocrites? Let me guess you met ONE gay person ONCE and now you are an expert. Wow! How would you like to be lumped in with all closed minded bigoted religious zealots... oh wait...
Man, gay people are sooooo gay.
I'm against gay bashing or any minority group for that matter, but Howard is right, all this PC stuff is getting out of hand. Where does it end? We now refer to "fat" as "heavy built", "short" as "vertically challenged", "blind" as "sight challenged", what next? Next, we won't be able to portray bald men (or women), talk about pimply-faced teenagers, or what have you. What's interesting is that all those protesting this are probably "straight" and are making all the ruckus not to defend gays, but trying to score political points.
All I know is that it bothers me when my husband uses "That's so gay" for something he doesn't like... my brother *is* gay. Similarly, I cringe every time I hear someone say "That's retarded." Not only is it insensitive, it is weird to bring in an unrelated group to prove the deficiency of something (I didn't like "You're so Jewish!" in the 80s, but the idea behind that was the equation – whether fair or not- between Jews and thrift).
I have to wonder about the intellect of the speaker, if the best thought they can get out is "That's so gay." Even the average 5-year-old has a more precise turn of phrase!
I don't understand, you can call a person who is gay, gay, but not car? Whatever. Anyway calling a person gay and something gay are two different things. There are words in the English language that have more that one meaning, I think they even have a word for that.
I think electric cars are wonderful, so why is it offensive to say they are gay? Electric cars stand for progress, green, tomorrow...gays should be proud to be so complimented.
If you advocate removing the word "gay" from media because it's offensive, then to be fair, you have to be for the removal of all offensive language from all media. If you don't, you're a hypocrite. If you call me insensitive for not caring if the word gay is used as an offensive term, I take offense to that and I demand an apology from you. It hurts my feeling to be called insensitive. Thats on par with being called emotionally retarded and we all know that we can't use the word retard.
Ron Howard is a dick. What? it's JUST a word.....
Way to go Ron! Censorship is wrong. Political correctness is destroying this country. Displaced groups create their own obstacles.
I'm not supporting Ron Howard and his, obviously, low brow way to get publicity for a second rate movie, "starring" a fallen star, by perpetuating negativity and hate under the guise of "free speech" & "censorship". Their are consequences for what you say. Yell fire in the movie theater while Dilemma is playing and see what I mean 🙂
i agree with ron howard 100% and will see his movie to support how he is handling this issue.
This website is gay. You mom is gay. Censorship is gay. Rainbows are totally gay. Last but not least, you're face is gay.
This conversation is gay.
Good for you Ron Howard!!! I am sick and tired of all the PC garbage!! Grow up and get a sense of humor. If you can't laugh at yourself then go sit in your house and be miserable. I've always loved Ron Howard's movies and his talents as a director.....now I like him even more.
Ladies and gentlemen, Ron Howard is so gay!
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Name one movie that Howard has done that is above mediocre? Not award winners, because those are characteristically mediocre.
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Bet you use the "N" word and just say, "Hey, it's just a word, get over it NAACP."
yeah, we shouldnt censor FICTION... if using "gay" in the dialogue of a fictional character gets across the kind of character they are supposed to be, should we make all films abou the KKK delete the use of the N-word, of nazi movies erase all uses of the swastika? I mean come on... its not like Ron Howard told an interviewer in real life that the car was gay... its a fictional person.... sad that we have to remind GLAAD this... but it's just a movie... movies arent real...
How many people would complain about "The Birdcage" if it came out now instead of 1996? This country is too damn PC!! I'm gay and the comment doesn't bother me in the least. get a life people.
Nice to see the PC police are still chipping away at it. Wonder how long before one can be arrested and prosecuted for stating an opinion or a joke. Pathetic.
People need to chill. Its gay that we even need to have this discussion.
Ron Howard makes terrible movies anyway.
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Electric cars are gay ? I don,t get it ..
As I write this, there are 829 comments before mine. 829 people who felt strongly enough to say something. On this article alone. I"m sure there are other articles on other sites that people have commented on as well. What Mr. Howard has done is call attention to a problem. He's done what I always tell people to do. "Offend someone, make them think!" and by that, I mean, don't shield what you say because someone tells you to, if that's what you mean to say. Censorship for the sake of censorship never did any good. What has happened here is that he's used something controversial to draw attention to a problem, in order to get people to HAVE A CONVERSATION about it. When you get people talking, then you get people interacting, then you get people making things happen. WAY TO GO.
Note to Ron Howard: Stick to your guns! I'm gay and HATE censorship. Use "gay" with my blessings. If something (albeit rarely) offends me, I avoid it. – Which is why I don't go to Rosie Perez movies. – Thats the power we have as Americans. Rock on Ronnie!
It's such a comfort knowing that the Screen Writers' Guild has your blessing and approval.
Then can I finally start saying that things I find negative are "so n i g***r?" or "haha – that's SO black!" Or "electric cars are so jew" Can I say that as well?
Sure you could, if those were terms commonly used for a couple decades or so already, and only recently been put on the oversensitive pc list. GO for it.
are you seriously equating this use of the word "gay" with the N word? oh my.
I call em like I see em.....Gay is Gay!
Dear "billyzee" – 'Song of the South' is available – look on amazon.co.uk
It's not about the word being in the film, it was about the word being in "APPROPRIATE FOR ALL AUDIENCES" trailers right around the time of the whole gay bullying thing. It was an example of how pop culture supports that type of behavior. It can be in the movie. The character is a loud-mouthed insensitive jerk. Only loud-mouthed insensitive jerks say that stuff, but keep it in the movie and NOT in the previews.
"keep it in the movie and NOT in the previews".....yeah....they did that. read the article.
I'm still waiting for the release of an OLD Disney movie " Songs of the South " on any media. Loved that movie as a child but "Uncle Remus" is a no no . Way to Go Ron !!
Gay was a word before it became a group. With all the trash in movies now, you're going to get offended by a word? Unbelieveable! What's next? The rainbow? God invented it, Jesse Jackson borrowed it and now a group has hijacked it.
The whole topic is gay. Who cares what a movie character says? Gay/lesbian, overtly religious, agnostic, idiot, or brilliant...it's all irrelevant. Entertainment is just that. Stop shoving your agenda down other people's throats. Imagine what life would be like if we were forced to conform to one ideology–and it was diametrically opposite of our own? I'll take the gay comment for a laugh and you can poke fun at whatever you find humorous.
Give me a break..i just heard gays bashing my lord and saviour jesus christ and demean jews...how come the no one protests that...??
I found Brokeback Mountain, Shortbus, The Birdcage, etc...to be offensive. Can we ban those films if Howard DOES change the line? Just on principle Ron should change the line to "electric cars are for over sensitive f-a-g-g-0-ts"
Good for Ron Howard. Here's an idea – if you don't like what's in the movie, then don't watch it!
Now I will see the movie; to Hell with this political correctnes BS.
Simple solution: if you find something like this to be offensive, just don't watch the film. It's not as though there's someone forcing you to see this. Really. You don't have to go and make a big deal about it.
And really, the only way not to offend someone is to have a film with no lines in it. Because if it has lines, someone will say something that someone finds offensive. Ex. all three LOTR films (arguably some of the least offensive films of all time) have the word dwarf in them. Dwarf could be viewed as an offensive word by those with dwarfism. Should that be censored as well?
The fact that "the conversations started as a result of the community’s response to this slur will help schools, media, and parents understand the impact of the word ‘gay’ being used as a pejorative," doesn't sound like this single word in the movie is "contributing to the problem."
Im glad it will stay in. I intend on watching the film. Stop being cry babies like you cant take a joke. I know atheist gays who LOVE to bag on the Church. Get over it......
The United States was not founded nor was able expand on Political Correctness. We can not rewrite history or try to forget history. We can learn from it. I just saw a pic of D. Wade Dressed up as Justine Timberlake, on P.T.I. wearing white makeup. Now say if I wanted to dress up as SHAQ/OBAMA/MLK. JR. and I wore black paint I would be crucified. I'm no idiot and know that whites dressed up and wore ethnic makeup in the early days of film and traveling stage shows. Enough of this double standard B.S. How many times do you hear the N WORD in FILMS, MUSIC, and on the Streets...
I just want to send a special thank you to the NCAAP, GLADD, AND TO ALL OTHER HUMAN INTEREST GROUPS FOR RUINING AMERICA. The NEW MCCARTHYISM...
Oops meant to say " The United States was not founded, nor would have been able to expand, if we had been Political Correct... READ A HISTORY BOOK.... The genocide of the Native Americans, SALEM WITCH TRIALS, Andrew Jackson, Polk,the American Civil War, Reconstruction-Indian Wars, Robber Barons, The Spanish American War.....
Gays use the term "breeder" as a pejorative for straight people all the time (I have lots of gay friends and have heard it used frequently). So, it is OK for a gay person to use a pejorative to demean a member of the straight majority, but not OK for a straight person to use a pejorative to demean a member of the gay minority? Is that what we are to believe? That sounds a little like the stupid idea that only White people can be bigots and racists. This country needs to grow up and abolish this stupid PC nonsense.
Whats the big deal?! Why are people such whinny babies. My sister is gay, my best friend is gay....are they offended NO. No wonder this country is dying from heart disease...the stress everyone creates over every single thing. Enjoy life...its could end tomorrow.
Anderson Cooper needs to take his concern one step further and come out as a gay man. It just doesn't ring true when he does his shows about gay bullying, suicide, etc... Gay celebrities are coming out and offering support to help stop bullying... but Anderson is quiet. He just talks a LOT about the issues, and it never gets personal. Maybe it should.
I surfed past a movie on T.V. last night that showed a crazy guy duct-taping a teenage girl to a chair and glueing her lips closed before presumably raping and killing her, or both. I used my freedom of surfing thumb control, and changed the channel. I didn't hear Anderson cooper complaining about this type of offensive T.V. but then I also changed the channel on that biased, political tool of a station as well. If we censor everything that portrays what we don't like to hear or see, how will we ever move forward and become better. Lets ban thing that really hurt us , like investment bankers.
What a gay article!
well then I guess I'll just boycott the whole movie. FU ron howard!
That response is just so gay.
People who complain about what fictional characters say are gay.
So what is it that the gay guy in the How I Met Your Mother Show says about Canada Being a Backward ass country but no one says squat about that !!!!!
Oh my god, this article is so gay. Also, if you're offended by someone saying something, be prepared to be offended for the majority of your life. People are always gonna say something that upsets you. Deal with it.
Oh Christ come on, gay jokes are funny, straight jokes are funny, jokes about blacks, white, indians, whatever....everyone needs to get over themselves and get a freakin' sense of humor.
Although I am a huge fan of Ron Howard's films, I have to say I never realized what an idiot he is. it's not censorship if you take out the offensive material yourself. it would be sensitive to do so.
Mark,, you and your ilk are 99% of what is wrong with this country. Feel free to leave anytime.
Communist China is --> thataway sir!
If you're such a big fan of his films, then you should have more respect for him now, knowing that he won't be bullied into compromising his artistic integrity and caving in to a bunch over sensitive losers with nothing better to do then jump on anyone who uses the word "gay".
that being said....calling him an idiot for standing his ground, even after unnecessarily explaining to the immature idiots that this is the character in his movie and this is the way he behaves....is ironically, pretty fackin' gay.
GAY, GAY,GAY GAY GAY OMFG I'M SOOO BADD SOMEONE TEACH ME A LESSON GAY,GAY, GAY GAY, GAY
Really america? it's come to this? PC will be the ultimate demise of this country.
Ron Howard is so gay and so are his films.
This is somewhat off-topic, but...
I think it's important to acknowledge differences between same-s-e-x attraction/behavior and opposite-s-e-x attraction/behavior.
(If I don't hyphenate the word s-e-x I think the censor might not allow my comment.)
It's also important to have an honest, in-depth discussion on the causes of same-s-e-x attraction.
Oh brother...gay people are gay!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ws3xEzYcNc
Well said. Personally, I think that telling everyone we are always in danger of hurting someone has the potential to turn us all into pathological nervous wrecks. And different rules for different groups? Divisive, harmful. You single people out by trying not to single them out.
People make fun of my heritage French, German and Czech but no pc here. People should worrie about homelessness, poverty and how to end to end world hunger. Put you energies to make a difference. Get plugged in and you will feel good about yourself.
Haha...electric cars ARE gay. Carlos, a gay man.
are they actually going to cry over this . what a bunch of babies ..go back to mamby pamby land. Cars don't have feelings and cars can't be gay lol . Stop being so sensitive and feeling every comment with the word gay in it is directed personally torwards you .
HALLELUJAH, Ron Howard!! I am a journalist who is sickened by the level of censorship that occurs – whether it's a newspaper cowering in the wake of a paradigm shift that responds by cow-towing to advertisers more than to news content, or an out-of-control PC-brigade who begins to dictate comedic content based on perceived wounds to a minority group, caving only further compromises our first amendment rights. Thank God for Howard's eloquence in explaining why it's important for anyone in a creative business to take this stand. BRAVO!
Gay people are toooooo sensitive.
Ron Howard is awesome. I'm tired of th P C police destroying what's funny. If you let words like " that's gay" offend you and hurt your feelings, then you are to weak to handle lifestyle real problems. It's a joke people, grow up and laugh. I did.
No way!!! I thought the only people that can be made fun of now were white males and any one that believes in Jesus.
REALLY??????? are you kidding me, there are so many movies (which hello folks, they are movies to entertain us) that have profanity beyond belief. We all have a choice on what movies we watch, get a life, if you don't like it, don't watch it. We have an election going on right now, go express yourselves in the polls and let go of the petty stuff. I am not gay, however have a gay uncle, he could care less what they say in a film, we are censoring way too much, pretty soon most won't have a mind to make their own decisions, they will wait for someone to tell them what to "think" god help us with this non-sense. Go Ron Howard for sticking to what you do best, making entertaining movies and making them the way you want.
JWH, I'm cracking up. Christians ARE perverts. BDSM, pegging, wife-swapping, foot worship, golden showers, cross-dressing, and on and on and on.
I find it refreshing to hear Ron Howard's position on censorship and thank him for sticking to his creative vision. In the midst of this kind of pressure, many in Hollywood wouldn't have the nerve to stand tall – most avoid this kind of controversy at any cost. Hats off to Ron Howard, Imagine Entertainment, and Universal. They can count on my box office dollars!
Remember when liberal hollywood envoked free speech to say and show what they wanted in movies. Now theyre attacking their own with the same facism that they once fought so hard against. Walking contradictions everywhere I turn.
If you don't like it, then...
1. Don't listen.
2. Don't stay.
3. Lump it.
Hollywood use the name of the Lord in vain. Why not Sodomites? That is sooo gay.
Christians are not given a good light, who cares about perverts?
TV sitcoms regularly include humor related to being gay.
What criteria does the gay community use to single out one joke, or one comment as being offensive, when it is rare for a TV sitcom to not include such humor without anyone objecting to it?
What's the matter, Michael Armstrong Sr.? Are you ashamed of that crush you had on your male gym teacher when you were 15?
I am not in the closet, I am in the garage of denial
Good for you, Ronnie...at least someone is standing up against PC censorship!!!
I am gay but my straight friends drive hybrids. Currently I drive a Jeep but secretly I want a Chevy Volt. Is it me or is because I am gay?
You are just in the closet.
Good for Ron Howard! He's taking a stand against all this Political Correctness crap that's sweeping the nation and leaving a joke in his film that radicals would rather see removed because it "Offends their sensibilities". Screw that! It's a freaking MOVIE! Don't take it so seriously. Geez. What are they gonna do...Drum Richie out of Hollywood. Sic the Fonz after him?
What a bunch of no-heuvos crybabies...Can't take a joke. Go find someone else to harass. Hey...go harass George Carlin. Oh, that's right, he's departed this life. How about Richard Pryor? Ooops, he's on the same comedy bill as Carlin now. Oh...How about Buddy Hackett? He's co-headlining with Carlin and Pryor. What about Jay Leno? If he made a gay joke...would GLADD demand his immediate firing? Probably.
Well git this...FIRING PEOPLE FOR BEING NON-PC AND DARING TO TELL JOKES IS...GAY!!!! Take that, you self-righteous pieces of fecal matter in GLAAD. Grow the heck up.
Thanks for letting me rant a bit...:)
Gay dudes kind of make themselves victims every chance they get. Being gay just isn't cool. Why do gay people get so offended if you call them gay? I don't get offended when people call me straight. What's the difference? Making fun of gay people and gay things is funny, seriously.
You are a tool, and probably white. I suppose it's funny to make fun of blacks, Mexicans and Asians as well?
So the Gay and Lesbian Alliance want's the word "Gay" removed because it's "insensitive and harmful"?
You people are approaching hypocritical mass. This rather innocuous word is slowly becoming the N word among the gay community.
Whoops, I said gay.
echo LLF... Anderson and Jarritt STFU.
I have never had a interest in eithic or gay jokes. Ron Howard will not make a penny off of me, plus he has the right wing look.
The whole article/discussion is gay. If you are gay shut the f%&$ up. I do not care what you do when the bedroom door is shut. That is your personal business! How about you do your thing and I will do mine. Quit throwing all your gayness in my face, insecure jerks!
It's Opie for cryin out loud, he would say or do anything to hurt no one. Anderson Cooper has zero sense of humor, he can suck it.
Shelly, the end of your comment is so apropo, I'm sure Anderson Cooper would enjoy that, due to his choice of life style and partners.
People are much too sensitive. My favorite movie is Pulp Fiction because almost everyone's ox is gored in it. Anderson Cooper is a good reporter but he should abstain from topics that personally ruffle his feathers. There is a great difference between campaigning against bullying and stifling free speech.
Way to go Ron & Vince!! Enough of being held hostage by "Political Correctness zelots like Jarrett Barrios et al.
good job ron howard dont take it out people are too hyper sensitive its just words. I bet 60% of Americans call things gay not meaning to offend any gays unless there say directing towards a gay man or woman but become part of are American english language.
Ever tried watching GoodFellas on network TV? Sucks right? It's because the character of the film has been stripped away. What Jarrett doesn't understand is, there is a BIG difference between socio/political discourse and art. I may not like Jesus in a jar of urine - actually, I don't feel one way or the other about it - but I strongly defend the right to create such stuff, even if it's nonsense. Sure, there's gray area with art, like cop killer songs, but the outrage focus should be focused on actual opinion, not fictional depiction.
There are very few things that you can say or do that will not offend someone in this entire world. So why don't we just say or do nothing and evolve into jelly fish.
I find it ironic that Anderson Cooper is so offended by this use of the word, but clearly enjoyed calling the Tea Party "Teabaggers." I watched him the night he said it...he had such a smirk on his face.
I think the fact we have to scrutinize every word we use is "GAY". It's a freaking movie.
ya know what's harmful? drag queens... they are a walking joke, so i'll make a deal. if we can get rid of those freaks then we can remove the joke in the movie. hey, gays love to live openly so lets show them we see them by keeping them in our lives with humor...
electric cars are gay
I agree, but it would be cool to own one and not have to buy anymore gay foreign oil in my tank.
I always thought the term was spelled "ghey."
That is the correct spelling. No one knows how to spell anymore. It's kinda ghey.
Boycott Ron Howard's films. If he has so little respect for the GLBT community why should I waste my money on an offensive film?
Grow up
Yea, that'll happen. Good luck with your (boy)cott.
I tihink NASA discover a new PLANET CALL GAY!!! SO GAY PEOPLE AND ANDERSON CAN MOVED OVER THERE AND NOBODY KNOW OR MAKE JOKE ABOUT THEM PLANET GAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!COUSE HERE THIS IS PART OF OR LIFE TO MAKE FUN AND JOKE AND LAUGHT AT EVERY BODY AND EVERY THING
This movie will have the same number of attendees one way or the other. Give me a break...is there a group of people out there just LOOKING for a chance to pounce? I doubt very seriously if there are many intelligent gay people who actually take offense to this! Gaaah! The movie is ABOUT a guy who is always saying the wrong thing!!! He's always getting into trouble without trying. This is a perfect line for someone like that! Ron Howard has NEVER been about gay bashing, so just chill out.l
JNC33 you're wrong. Calling something that you feel is stupid "gay" is calling all gay people "stupid". If you are calling something you feel is uncool "gay" your calling all gay people "uncool". It is exactly like using the word "retarded" to refer to anything other than someone who is developmentally challenged.
As a gay man I defend Ron Howard's right to use the word in the film, but I don't like it. In this current climate where we're trying to understand why teens and young adults are committing suicide after being outed one way or another; we should not have a protagonist of any movie, no matter how openly flawed that protagonist is, using "gay" as a pejorative. If a "hero" says it, kids will copy it even if it is wrong. I'm all for stirring things up in a public forum, but only to raise awareness of a problem. Ron Howard isn't challenging the status quo – he's being part of it here. When kids learn to say these things – other kids get hurt. Ron Howard has the right to do it, but it is irresponsible.
Grow up,
You really need to "one" yourself.
I'm gay and i don't have a problem with this. What I do have a problem with is all of the poeple on this site who use this issue as open season on gay bashing which Ron Howard does not support. Not all gays disagree with Ron Howard's decision and not all gays are overly sensitive. What I am sensitive to is being discriminated against. Period. And many of the comments on here are much worse than the line in the moive. I couldn't care less about a stupid lijne in a movie but some of you know that you have crossed the line with your comments and would not like it if the same were said of you.
When a joke is repeated it is always are at someone else's expense and it seems that Opidiah has no expiration date for cliche, he's lost his creative touch.
Hey Michael Armstrong Sr. how would you like it if Muslims say that they like seeing the 9/11 footage just to see the people jumping out the windows of the twin towers? Just shows your stupidity and ignorance.
I am appalled at all these posts...have you no decency for those that don't share your perspective? I would like to go on record and state your all a bunch of farries (oh no...imagine the replys I'll get from Tinkerbell).
Oh and by the way, please excuse what I just posted above...it was totally gay.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA – I want my way or else waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah. You made my feelings hurt waaaaaaaaaaaah
Honestly if you think some silly line in a movie is "driving you apart" you have got much bigger issues and obstacles to surpass than Ron Howard. Pick your battles wisely or else none of your platforms will be taken seriously. The fact that this has even registered a blip on the gay radar makes me wonder about GLADD's ability to fight for gay causes that really matter (i.e. equal rights for gay partners, and discrimination in the workplace). I say GLADD needs to get a life, and hopefully a gay and happy one 🙂
I you are so psychologically inbalanced as to be harmed by the use of a term like gay, you might be a Jack Wagon.
This is political correctness gone wild. You can't say gay now...? What! There are bigger issues than a silly joke.
anyone seen Blazing Saddles lately?
Gotta agree with Opie!
Electric cars are so hetero.
It's a movie, folks, get over it. I've heard every dumb blonde/dumb female joke going and had to watch the stereotypes on television and film all my life. Has this caused psychological hardship and feelings of discrimination? Nope. But it's really good for a laugh...
Electric cars are definitely gay; their batteries may initially be charged by A/C power, however, batteries rely on uni-directional flow of an electric charge (D/C is not A/C !!)
I think it's stupid and "gay" for people to try to control what a screen play should or shouldn't say. Get on with your lives!!!!!!!!!!
But electric cars ARE gay.
Folks if you haven't figured it out yet, gay's are more special than anyone else on Earth, this is why they cry and try to get their way... 🙂
No, not special just tired of jerks like you who use an issue like this to lash out at gays. I'm gay and don't care about the line in the movie any more than you do. Maybe you are the one who's too sensitive? Think about that jerk.
All those breeders...it's just too hetero!
Reading the comments to this article has been the hi-light of my "gay day". Thanks!
Since ppl can no longer say "that's so gay" then let's stop saying "that's so ghetto" , "that's so retarded", "that's so lame" anything referring to ppl's hair color and "corny" & "cheesy", since these terms would be offensive to cheese and corn
Actually, I think the line should be "electric cars are SO gay". It's funny cuz they really are! I have tons of gay friends, but I wouldn't ever buy an electric car cuz it really is too gay! And they agree! LOL
I haven't seen where GLAAD and Anderson Cooper have condemned calling people a teabagger, oh, that's right, Anderson actually called some conservatives that term. What hypocrites.
Brokeback Mountain. That was a gay movie!
Wait a minute people. We are assuming that the word "gay" in the offending line means "stupid" or "bad" or "lame". I challenge that thinking. Could it just mean that an electric car appeals more to gays than other groups? Is this line going to make a straight person thinking any less of gays? I don't see what the issue is.
I wish people would get a life. I am blonde and I don't get mad at blonde jokes.
If there is nothing wrong with being gay, what's wrong with calling something gay?
ARE YOU KIDDING!! If they want watered down nicey nice, then watch BARNEY!!!. Do we really want filmakers to make movies that don't offend anyone? That's what "G" ratings are for!
Exactly
I don't think it was a calculated line to offend gays, but it will be used by all for the publicity – by gay groups. It won't hurt the movie, either. This has been blown out of proportion – to make a point. But is it an important one, or one that makes the offended look silly? (oope – can we still say silly???)
bay, cay, day, hay, jay, lay, may, nay,pay, ray, say,way are all ok. But God forbid you use a G before ay. People, sticks and stones will break my bones, but political correctness is making me throw up!
Political Correctness is DEAD! It's just another term for censorship. One piece of advice to all of you special interest group Nazi's: GET OVER YOURSELVES!
Anyone remember the movie Demolition Man? This is where our country is going. Soon we will all be giddy fruits singing showtunes and driving GAY CARS. Freedom of Speech works both ways, deal with it
This PC crap is getting out of control. The more these people complain the more power they give to these words. I am all for gay rights. I thnk they should get maried and be able to adopt and have familes, but I also want them to allow me to say what I want when I want. I say gay and f@g all the time. NEver at a gay person just in my everyday life. Now don't be a f@g and complain.
At least the Flintstones are still having a gay old time.
Since when did Opie become the shoulder to cry n?
I say we just ban speech all together... sign language from now on..
The sign we will probably need to get used at that point will be the middle finger, judging from the comment boards.
The use of the word gay and retarted, usually implies something is weird or different. We should all, by now realize that there are going to be people that refuse to accept things that make them question themselves and impose alternative thought or acceptance. Gays have to realize that by holding themselves out for their differences, that not all are going to treat them with acceptance. The fact that some people have used these words to represent things that are not mainstream, doesn't make them acceptable, but it does make the story very real to those that grew up with these expressions. The mere fact that these words have become an "off the cuff expression" is a testament to human nature.
Break down barriers, don't paint them brighter for all to see. Make this something to learn from, make the change happen.
UNDERSTANDING ONE ANOTHER! A CHANGE WE CAN ALL LIVE WITH!! Sermon concluded!
I'm with Opie, you can't go wrong with his philosophy and outlook! He knows artistic freedom and won't give into a bunch of pansies seeking attention. GET OVER IT! Art will never be strongarmed or censored. I ceases to be art at that point. Thanks.
I have to agree the word gay is offensive!!! I think Pole smoker and Butt Pirate are much more acceptable.
ron howard hasn't had a hit movie in over a decade-let him say whatever he wants no one will see or hear his bigotry.
you big sissey
You know how I know you're gay? You like Coldplay.
I guess they better take, "Squeal like a pig" out of Deliverance.
You may even want to take, "E.T. phone home" out of E.T. It could be offensive to aliens by implying that they use poor grammar.
Or how about: "I feel the need—the need for speed!" from Top Gun. I mean, are we really going to teach kids that speeding is good?
The horror...the horror.
This is offensive to electric cars everywhere. Ron Howard should be ashamed and Al Gore should be up in arms about this.
I think GLAAD is gay.
Censorship is gay. GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY
Give to me a break. So sick of the PC world. Listen to the things real people say every day and tell me how PC they are Jarrett Barrios, you idiot.
Grand Torino, anyone? Let's get off our PC high horse and worry about things worth worrying about. What a stupid arguement.
Weren't the gay activists just cry out against bullying? Why not practice what they preach? If you say anything that THEY find offensive they yell and scream in outrage and conduct a witchhunt in the press with no other purpose than to destroy you.
Good for Ron! Amerika is fast becoming as PC as the UK. Words that some people find objectionable need particular protection. If you don't like the word "gay", don't see the movie. Personally I couldn't care less what anyone says about anything. It used to be a free country and the word "gay" is used by people all the time. Big deal!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gk3yTXFkyiY&feature=related
That line is very old, it was used in a Simpsons Episode a long time ago..You can view it here, it is still funny!
http://www.hostedfile.com/videos/5734/simpsons-electric-car.html
LOL – "one of Us"!
1) Gay people are liberal ONLY WHEN IT'S CONVENIENT FOR THEM. To push the Gay Agenda is fine, but freedom of Speech is not. WHAT A BUNCH OF HYPOCRITS!!! Then again, any organized organization, left, middle or right, will always have hypocrit tendencies.
2) As a Libertarian (No Wars and No Welfare), YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE OFFENDED! Therefore it is the Individual, and not Groupthink, that RULES!
OMG! Get over it people! This PC crap has gone too far. Good for you Ron to not back down!
This article is gay.
My next car is going to be an EV, and no I'm not gay.
I believe electric cars are an important part of fighting global climate change. I believe what almost all climate scientists are warning us about.
Big Oil has got to be getting scared about all the recent excitement about EV's, what with the Nissan Leaf and Chevy Volt soon to hit the streets (by the thousands let's hope).
If Ron Howard wasn't paid off by BP, Chevron, Shell, Valero, ..., then he's doing a great job, pro-bono, trying to give the electric car a bad image.
I'm gay. It does not offend me. I don't care what people call me or each other. This whole country has gone nuts with political correctness.
I am so sick and tired of sensitive people! I don't care if you are gay, black, white, whatever.. LIFE IS TOUGH and this comment is NOTHING! Censorship is dangerous I don't care what the reason.. get over it GLAAD.. my god what a ridiculous argument and Anderson Cooper, stop stating you are a fair reporter and not biased when your ENTIRE show has no journalistic value and is a stage for your rantings.. never mind brow beating folks, companies, whatever into submission.. how sickening!
its ok to use the F word, its ok to curse, its ok to do you know..wheatver!
but its not ok to say "GAY".
hypocrites ! When will you change?
GET OVER IT GLAAD. People will always use words like this, in and out of movies. Just man the **** up, for gods sake. No one wants to hear you moan and groan over this crap.
It's amazing how sensitive people are these days.........accept who you are.
This is not said in a derogatory sense. Anderson Cooper is an Idiot to begin with, crying about something he would careless about, if he were "off the air". If it was slamming "gay" people, in a hateful way, I could understand some uprising following it. This is petty BS, though. Any activists that try to push this will look like total fools, of course some are, anyway.
The word of the street is that Anderson cooper is a tea-bagger. I suppose that is why he is offended to the term gay.
Good for Ron Howard,This political correctness b.s. is getting out of hand .The people that complain about crap like this have an insecurity problem .
When did life start revolving around whether or not someone is offended? I'm offended all the time but i dont stand around and whine about it all day. Get over yourselves.
If people can say hillbilly and redneck on tv...........
Saying that the censorship of the pejorative "gay" somehow stunts creativity, is an insult to creative people. That's like saying that the end of the manufacture of Black lawn-jockeys has somehow stunted the future of American sculpture. I'm very tired of writers/comedians receiving carte blanche from American society in the name of 1st Amendment rights, or that any and all censorship will eventually lead to Fascism. These insult comics/writers continue to hide behind Free Speech, unwilling to own up that they have an ignorance and/or are insensitive. Where is it written (and they treat this as if it were some religious tenet or axiom) that comedy is the best medicine for bringing our "society" together? This overused statement is in deep need of a sociological reevaluation. If the only way a writer can make his or her fictional characters communicate their faults is through insult-comedy, then it shows a lack of talent/range/care on the part of the writer, regardless of style. Artists and media craftsmen have a deep responsibility too; they can't just create whatever they want and lay all blame and responsibility on the viewer for interpretation and application.
Just because he said this guitar is gay i may just go gay bashing with a guitar!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm not a Vince Vaughn fan but why not bash gays? I've been ripped for being Catholic, Republican, Mexican-American. So again... WHY NOT??
I totally agree that Ron Howard should have used better judgement. He should know better!! What a gay boy!
If you dont want to be offended by the word "gay", dont be gay. Politeness has given way to political correctness. Now political correctbness has given way to utter stupidity and uber-sensitivity. Get a life and worry about stuff that matters. The fact that these blogs continue to appear is GAY!!
I am a lesbian. I really don't understand what all the fuss is about. It isn't even that funny. If you would like to hear some really funny gay and lesbian jokes just ask. Come on folks! Where is your sense of humor?
It was already gay taking it out of the trailer.
I think I'll buy a ticket just to support the film when it comes out. I may skip over to the next theatre for another flick, but I'll make sure my money goes towards this movie, because the outcry from GLAAD is ludicrous. Go Opie Go!
everyone i know has been saying "thats gay" since as far back as ican remember... at leas tthe past 8 years. it's not meant derogatory. grow up and stop making a mountain out of a molehill.
WAAAHHHHHHHHH Somebody call the ambulance. It's a movie people. If you can't handle a little gay joke then don't go
Why such the big fuss over someone making a joke about "gay"! Jokes are made about all kinds of things...who cares!!
The fact I am wasting my time to post a comment is gay....and pathetic that this is an issue with people...ridiculous
Electric cars ARE gay!!! Finally someone with the balls to stand up to these whining nut case gay rights idiots. Get over it ALREADY!!!
@Lisa: Lisa, I can assure you with all certainty that God is in fact real, as you will one day find out. I just hope it's on THIS side of eternity.
At a time like this, any gay joke is inappropriate. That said, no one should get upset, the movie will probably bomb.
Not only are Eelctric cars GAY...they are SOOOO GAY, in fact they are RICHARD SIMMONS GAY!!!! (I am neither a Democrat nor a Republican and I approve this message)
There's not "gay" about electric cars. They are the cars of the future.
Thankfully Ron Howard's generation are dying off, and doing something to appeal to the limited mindset who would go see this movie, rather than the impact it will have on how this language will be more exceptable to middle america who dont know Gay people only that they are not good people from their Priests, Rabbis and Ministers.
How did such an ugly man have such a hot daughter?
Anderson Cooper calls Tea Party folks a gay slur, "Teabaggers", and he's got his panties up in a tussle over a joke in a movie.
What a dumb**ss
PC is making this world a very boring place to live. Doesn't celebrating our differences also include funny jokes about each other mannuerism, habits, and quirks. It's just a joke. Anderson Cooper freaks out about this sentence but it's okay to broad brush an entire political movement as teabaggers? What happended...I'm going back to the 70's in my time machine.
One of these days the media, the government, and uber lib Hollywood will understand that there is their fantasy world and then the real world where everybody acts differently.
Bottom line... it is a fictional character, and Ronnie Howard is making the creative choice to let this character say this line to establish that the character is kind of a jerk, much in the same way a character who is a serial killer... uh... KILLS PEOPLE. (Silence of the Lambs, anyone?)
Jeez, people need to get a grip.
The fact that this is even an issue is gay.
RON HOWARD, AS ALWAYS, IS BRILLIANT!!
Context, context, context. In 'idiocracy' the characters constantly said the main character 'talked like a f_g' - and that was funny not because it was insulting to gays but because it showed how dumb the character saying that was. There is a huge difference about making fun AT something/someone/a group (i.e., being mean) and making fun ABOUT something/someone/a group. This whole PC thing is out of hand, now we can't even use 'retarded' anymore, it's the "r-word"
I don't get it. What is the joke about? Gays are more fuel efficient? Gays run on batteries? Gays are more expensive?
I'm sure that there is some metaphor that is just not apparent to me. Can someone enlighten me?
Gay cars can't marry?
Gay cars have a more tasteful decor?
Gay cars are less explosive?
What?
Expecing flawed characters in a movie to be PC is just plain silly. It's the same as asking "Goodfellas" to be remade because Joe Pesci's characters is sooo unPC that he shoots people who make him mad.
sure, i'll watch it ... unless they've sneaked mel gibson into it somewhere.
i am shocked that people are just *now* commenting on the 'that's so gay' slur. that bothered me from the first time i heard it. i kept trying to explain to people that it was hurtful and i just gave up.
i think ron might be a tad disingenuous, but i give him a pass because he really is a wonderful filmmaker, and he has a good point regarding censorship,. the hypersensitive over-reacting type should not be allowed to determine what is in a movie. however, the good people absolutely should vote with their wallets as to whether they find it offensive, a necessary part of character development, or more proof that we should have the right to free speech.
I guess movies like 'Airplane' and 'Blazing Saddles' could never be made today, well unless they took out all the good stuff, especially the gay jokes. Movies like that made fun of everybody! Gays, straights, whites, blacks, Chinese and the list goes on. I have watched 'Blazing Saddles' with black and gay friends (one who was black and gay) and they laughed like crazy. We really need to relax and get rid of all the political correctness in this country.
Ron, Not Cool, with all the kids killing themselves over being gay right now, have some ethics and morals. Why don't you say the car is so ginger and have people start thinking redheads are less than!!!!
I think it is being taken out of context. I think people take things to literally. You need to lighten up
Oh, for Heaven's sake. . . I love Anderson Cooper, but I mean, really. . .Ron Howard is depicting a character, not expressing his own views. Archie Bunker was a CHARACTER, that highlighted a lot of ignorant bigotry, at that time. He was a FUNNY, LOVEABLE character, who made SOME people stop and think about how narrow-minded and intolerant they, themselves, were being. I am a BLONDE, Conservative, Southern Hillbilly, (who, btw, has MANY good gay friends), and I don't go whining to everybody I meet when people make derogatory remarks about what they perceive me to be. Quit being so thin-skinned! I totally agree with Ron Howard. CENSORSHIP IS A VERY DANGEROUS THING!
I'm gay, I can assure you most gay men could give a rat's ass. Saw the trailer the other night and it looks really funny. On the other hand. OPIE fell of hard....
Well David you don't have to worry about breeding now do ya. Gay boy
Why is it that some scream intolerance while demonstrating their own intolerance? Seems this is a core problem within our country that runs much deeper than a Hollywood movie.
Okay if we can no longer have a joke like that in films, then all comments that might be considered derogatory to straight people also have to stop. No more referring to straight people as breeders, etc. Deal?
Yeah, in a movie I saw last week they referred to a straight guy as a killer. That is offensive and must stop. Not all straights are killers and that movie made it seem like they are.
I'm sick and tired of whimpy tear bleeders whinning about this, that, or the other. You can pass all the lawys you want, whine all you want, but it will not change anything. There will always be gay jokes, lawyer jokes, politician jokes, etc. etc, etc. Being PC is nothing more than allowing yourself to be subjugated to someone elses cowardly standards.
Ron Howard movies often suck. Vince Vaughn usually sucks. I can't stand either one of them anyway, so with or without the gay slur I won't see this movie, but it doesn't help.
Way to go Ron. Political correctness has gone way too far in this country. Everyone makes jokes and says things they shouldn't about others. Movies in some cases are made to show what life is like. One comment said movie characters use God's name in vain all the time and no one cares, and they are correct. So if a movie character says a negative comment about gays it is because people do that in real life, so get over it.
Right on, Gary!
HOORAY FOR RON HOWARD!!! FINALLY SOMEONE IS STANDING UP FOR "FREEDOM OF SPEECH!!!" KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RON!!!! If the gays don't like the statement, DON'T GO AND SEE THE MOVIE!!!!!
Just replace "Gay" with "Tea Bagger" and watch how they people turn against this movie.
Electric cars are so Ron Howard.
People boycotting because of the joke; what about other folks making comments like "fish" or "breeder"? If happens just as much in certain circles. I for one would like to see the rainbow returned to children, leprechauns and unicorns. If not, then I will boycott anything GLBT related.
So now real people are being held responsible for the utterances of fictional characters in creative works of art? Ridiculous. After 20 years of political correctness, we are halfway to the point where it will one day be a criminal act to hurt someone's feelings. Grow a backbone and thicken your skin people, and stop being offended all the time! What a bunch of freakin' wimps!
Did anyone see the movie, The Aristocrats? That line is tame.
If we had censored Archie Bunker's boorish comments in the '70s, we would have lost one of the best examples of how NOT to think, act and behave.
I disagree with the position that a passing "gay" comment such as this one ... coming from a fictional character that's boorish in other phases of his personna ... detracts from the dialogue that's going on right now. I suggest GLAAD do a better job picking their battles.
Don't let them browbeat you, Opie! I agree w/you on this one.
As a Bald American I'm offended by the "Hairy's." I object to those of you smug people out there, men and women alike, flaunting your shampoo commercials, your trendy hairstyles and your haircutteries! Where are the PC police for me? C'mon! Shave your heads or accept me! You are all wrong, not me! I'm sick of the Mr. Clean jokes, the bowling ball jokes and the jaunty British men who slap me repeatedly on top of my head! Who will stand up for the hairless man! WHO!!!!!!
This wouldn't have been an issue a few years ago...God forbid we offend anyone, cause then it's all over the news and the activists are demanding an apology. Good grief, get over it already.
Well put Lee. Enough already.
To David: No agenda!! Are you serious? Do as Doc suggested, shut up and go away. Happily sucking all the way. Buffoon.
2 peas in a pod druid. Morons like you give breeders a bad name.
This is America!
Everybody has the right to complain about something,
but that doesn't mean we all have to listen.
People get offended when anybody says nearly anything.
I get offended when people tell me I can't say anything.
The true crime in all of this isn't saying something is "gay"
the True crime is telling someone they can't exercise their freedom of speech.
Gay used to mean "happy"...so what group hijacked the word gay? Let's go back to the orginal translation...of the word gay.
Will someone clear up a question? Why are persons of this persuasion referred to as "Gay"? Seems they are always angry about something. Oxymoron perhaps? Does this means that everyone who has a different opinion is a "phobe"?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmm.......I have a lot of gay friends who call themselves gay and who also call "things" gay.....be it a piece of clothing or whatever, so I detect some hypocricy happening here!!!!
This is so getting stupid.......
Oobey I like you as a kid...I like you better for what you stand for. Gay people made a choice and if they want to live with it that is just fine. Send them to another country...they would be better off. We have too many gay people in our country...if they don't like it leave...the boast is waiting. So why don't all the gay and lesbians come out of the closet. In case you didn't get the message..."one man and one woman"...GOD, says so...this you can't change! I reall y want to know where these people go to church?
You have no basis that being gay is a choice. When you wake up as a child every day and struggle with why you're different and deal with it for years, then you can say being gay is a choice. Until that day, STFU...
And BTW, the word is boat, not boast, and obey, not oobey. Get an education while you're at it.
Ok if being gay is not a choice chew on this: God gave everyone their free agency. Now with that being said why would God give everyone their free agency to choose who they want to be and what they want to do and then retract and say you know i think i'm going to make this child gay as soon as he is born and not give him a choice. So it seems to me the gay people who believe in God but saying that they were born gay are actually calling God a hypocrite.
DAVID: The word he was looking for is Opie, not obey. So you're wrong, too. Maybe you should stop being so picky.
Who cares what the "gay" community thinks. I'm sick of their stupid agenda. The reason so many people do not accept their lifestyle is because it is unnatural and disgusting, no matter how "acceptable/fashionable" it becomes. It will never be totally acceptable and it shouldn't be. No to gay marriage being acceptable (find another word for it than marriage). Just wish they'd shut up and go away.
@Doc: There is no "agenda"... I promise to shut up and go away if you do... Jerk.
Will someone clear up a question. Why are persons of this persuasion referred to as "Gay"? Seems they are always angry about something. Oxymoron perhaps? Does this means that everyone who has a different opinion is a "phobe"?
Who here still remembers what the word "gay" originally meant?
Yes I do, meant festive, fun, happy, giddy, etc.
To CNN anchor Anderson Cooper: WHAAAAA My PU55Y HURTS! ! ! ! ! ! ! WHAAAAAA! ! ! ! ! !
LOL! Now, THAT is funny!
"It is a slight moment in 'The Dilemma' meant to demonstrate an aspect of our lead character's personality, and we never expected it to represent our intentions or the point of view of the movie or those of us who made it."
I can understand leaving the line in for the above reason he gave. He should've left it at just that. His lecture on gays & sensitivity & censorship oh my! made me gag.
OK, I'm gay, I don't own an electric car, and I'm not offended by the joke in the least. BTW, until electric cars stop being so gay I won't own one... 🙂
Yay! At least someone can have a sense of humor without taking offense. 🙂
I am not sure if Mr. Berrios is taking offense at the term or is worried that someone might be killed over it, or what, but I think he needs to chill. I am gay and I hear it all the time. I don't get offended because I know it isn't intended to put down gay people. It is merely a term. Most smart people are aware that it doesn't mean gay people are bad or disgusting, even if that might be the reason for it's original use. Who knows. Does anyone know why this term began in the first place? Do we know its origins. Highly unlikely. Trying to sensor this film is like trying to sensor comedians for using gay material in their acts. Anyway, try not to be so offended or worried. This country has come a long ways and I don't think this one word should be our main concern.
WHOOP DEE DOO....
some of the gays in this world will not go to see the movie....WGAF!
so lets see, those so offended that they can't force another person to act the way they want them to will not go see the movie they can't get altered??? WGAF!!!
i guess Ron Howard will almost miss your $100.00
(but i seriously doubt it...; and i'll feel alot better knowing your not there)
you pathetic lemmings should march off a cliff so you can put the rest of the world out of your misery!
What a funny joke! That kinda humor ranks up there with n!gg@rs are stupid apes, k!kes will get blood out of a turnip, and women are just crzy kunts...LOL, now I get it! Yeah, thats so gay!
I pointed out upfront that I am gay, used the word "f-g" spelled out and the moderator wouldn't let me post. The moderator is gay.
RH: Ok, Vince, he is going to do the thing with the car and your line is :"Electric cars are so retarded."
VV: I don't know Ron, that sounds insensitive, can we change it to "Electric cars are gay"?
RH: If you feel that strongly about it, Vince, sure, I can work with that.
Didn’t “gay ” used to mean happy? I didn’t know anyone could co-opt words, change their meaning, and then decide who could use them before now. Bearing all that in mind. I officially claim the word “beef” No one, from this day forward can make any beef jokes or references to beef without my approval. Otherwise, you will be declared a “beefophobe.”
By the way, I’m claiming the word pasta too. So you “pastaphobes” better watch out.
Ron I always knew u r a sickoo
People need to relax. Soon enough no one will be able to utter anything without someone be offended. I hardly think the sentence "electric cars are so gay" is what's causing so much pain in this world. Maybe we should focus just a little bit on real threats – bullying in schools, violence in every city in America, the economy, etc. Guess that would be pretty stupid when we can be more concerned about a joke. It's may not be everyone's idea of a good joke, but no need to make something bigger than it really is.
WAY TO GO RON!!!
excellent for not pandering to the same old, 'do as i say, not as i do', lemmings.
those whining, tree-hugging, whatever else relates to their type, of imbeciles need to just mind their OWN business.
i have a novel idea for you iTard lemmings that insist on forcing your ways onto others........IF YOU DON'T LIKE SOMETHING IN A MOVIE.......DON'T WATCH IT!!!!
If the gay rights movement really wanted equal rights wouldn't they want to have equal rights to be made fun of? Family guy makes fun of straight white males, minorities, chairs, cars, computers, etc etc. Family guy even made fun of the holocaust (way worse then saying "Electric Cars are gay"). But we have freedom of speech, and being PC all the time (especially in movies/literature is wrong). In some movies they kill people, which is obviously way worse then one comment. That doesn't mean the director believes killing people is ok.
If an actor playing Hilter says something offensive in a movie it's just his character. This is exactly the same. Although I do notice that sometimes a character will say something offensive just for the sake of saying something offensive. It's like when you watch a movie and the guy swears or curses god once – but never again. It's like they just don't want a G rating so they throw in an F, or they aren't Christian directors so they think Jesus Christ used as a curse isn't offending anyone. It is.
I am sick of the oversensitivity in today's society. People have no knack for subtlety or satire. If you make light of a racial or ethnic stereotype, pointing out how ridiculous it is, people will accuse you of reinforcing that stereotype without applying any critical thinking whatsoever.
This is what happens when a society decides that it wants to stick to news bites and kneejerk reactions. Remember the outcry when Will Smith said something about Hitler, and everyone got up in arms about it without even realizing the true meaning of his words?
If you can't laugh at yourself, if you can't find the irony in a situation, then you have no business watching television, reading books, or watching movies.
I think electric cars ARE gay. So are the people of GLAAD and I'm glad I'm not a member of that community!
This story is gay.
Gay people are gay.
This whole argument is so...well....gay!
I am sure they are glad too! Idiot.
This is such a petty topic. We are one stupid bunch of people in this country.
Didn't Kurt Vonnegut write "Electric Cars are Gay"?
Anybody who doesn't want to end up in the cornfield better start telling Ron what a good thing he did. That was a good, a very good thing.
the LGBT community needs to chill the F out!! Crying for every single small thing like this is ridiculous. You will not be treated special and being gay doesn't equate to preferential treatment. Movies make fun of and at times talk about religions, ethnicity, size, color in a offensive way for comedy and no one cries but if someone says a small thing abt gays then it gets blown out of proportion. Maybe this is because more than half of the people employed in the media industry are gay.
The people from GLAAD need to put their big girl panties on. Too sensitive.
This is stupid as hell... GLAAD should be worrying about protecting the rights of gay marriage or "Don't ask Don't tell" not a Ron Howard film..lmaooo Movies & films especially Comidians have been doing this for years.. Jus like the film Chuck & Larry where they exploit two straight men get married to scam the job outta of benefits & the son who was obviosouly gay & was made fun of the whole movie.. Where were they for that & that movie was funny.. Please GLAAD get your priorities straight no pont intended lmaoooo
I agree with the person that pointed out that God's name is taken in vain many times and the gays dont really worry about that. Lets face it: gays are gay. If it wasnt for us straight people then the gays wouldnt be around becuase the species would go extinct. Ellen may have a nice smile but dont you feel a bit strange about her huggin up young girls knowing that she wants to have her way with them?
This is the gayest crap ever. Somehow, I blame Hillary Duff.
Is this a joke, is Glaad really that bored and uselss. I cannot count how many gay jokes I've heard in movies over the years, seriously!! why is this such a big deal?? I'm from liberal ass montrael canada, and I mean just reading this is funny. We insult obsesity, handicap, religion, gender i mean we insult everyone in art and entertainement at some point or another, why is this such a big deal? give me a break, u guys south of the border should focus on shutting up those tea baggers and not wat vince vaughn says in a movie. gay....u gotta be kiding me
Opie is as gay as a Prius!
I applaud Ron Howard, even though I don't agree with him politically. Kids call things "gay" all the time, and when they say it, it means "lame" or "uncool" The character played by Vince Vaughn is obviously immature, and Howard wants to point this out. If directors removed all objectionable language from films, it wouldn't every portray reality.
I totally disagree – electric cars are not gay.
I agree that the pc stuff is out of hand. Its like no one has a back bone any more. The worst part is, I think the majority of us think its insane. But, like the saying goes "vocal minority, silent majority"
Hmmm. Offended by a morales. Offended by a lack morales.
Ron, Great Job having some guts and standing up for our freedom of speech. Guess America does not want to retain any of their freedoms anymore, they prefer the control of government. America is way too sisified and needs a thicker skin. DISCLAIMER: I hope I did not offend anyone's little bitty feelings.
I thought we lived in a country where free speech and free thought was encouraged, rather than having people being knocked for voicing their opinion. Is it a word that should be thrown around irresponsibly? Not at all. But is it part of our lexicon that will eventually die out based merely on public awareness? Absolutely.
If people don't agree with the gay movement, power to them. But this has nothing to do with acceptance. It's a word. Next step will be burning books that feature commentary that isn't deemed politically correct. I'm all for giving gays the same rights that everyone else in this country has. And that will thankfully come in the near future...but we didn't get to where we are now as a country by being thin skinned, bottled in fear, or turning a blind eye to a large percentage that has a certain view. Rather than bringing everyone together despite their differences, we've divided our country and blocked out those who don't agree with us. It's a movie, and it's a mirror of our culture.
If it offends you, look deep into your own beliefs and see where you think you may have gone wrong. Only within ourselves can we create a more positive society...you can't force it on others.
Suck it up people, ffs
I believe the United States and Canada were "founded" in such a way that provides the freedom of speech. However, more and more that simple freedom... is being pushed to its limits and changed so that everything remains "Politically Correct". We are no longer afforded the freedom of speech as we must all now apparently consider the feeling of the next guy or gal. Gay, in this case has been added to the list of "bad" words and thus no one should mutter the word "gay" unless its not used in any sense of a joke or off color remark.
I struggle with Political Correctness every year in December – during this month when Merry Christmas is the thing to say – I am not allowed to utter these words unless I hear them first.. This is due to political correctnes...
I ask what is "Politically Correct" – it is felt that most politician cannot tell the truth – so is it correc to lie ?
Smart man, Mr. Howard. Thank you. Sane, logical decision. I think the detractors who are whining about this thoroughly innocuous joke should do as Richard Pryor once suggested: Have a Coke and a smile and shut the F up.
Yeah, but Richard wasn't talking about cola.
It's a word in a film. Are we going to start censuring films now? What's next, books? I don't agree with not being politically correct all the time but this isn't a good example...There are more offensive posts on this site compared to the Vince Vaughn line in this film...
"Barrios went on, "Hopefully in the future, Universal and Ron Howard will recognize the power of their words and use their films to bring people together rather than drive us apart.”"
In ramming their agenda down our throats, pun intended, the gays have been driving society into different camps for many years now. "Social Justice" is supposed to be for everyone, not the so-called persecuted minorities. Staying out of our faces means us staying out of yours as well. You ask for too much.
Good job, Mr. Howard! This world needs less censorship and more common sense. It's time the lawyers work for a living instead of fabricating cases like this. What's next to be banned, He's a straight arrow? or a straight shooter? You don't see us 'straights' lining up to fight those phrases!
I agree with Mark.....I could and should be offended by movies and TV using my God's name in vain, but because people don't care if they hurt Christians, Catholics,or Jews, I don't express that offense to anyone. Unless you fit into the mainstream media's obsession with being PC you are just out of luck in getting heard regarding offensive comments.
Are you freakin serious?? Gee how come no one ever makes a big deal about race jokes or disability jokes, as in when the "retard" word comes out, or when you have Rob Schneider playing "Taquito", a hispanic dude with an accent on The Hot Chick? Sure its funny, but why does the Gay community always seem so offended? What people, and I mean ALL people have to realize is that the reality is that no matter how much offensive something is, it'll never cease.. and I can't imagine someone feeling persecuted or wanting to kill themselves over a line like this... I say Get over it
I'm very pro gay rights. I want "don't ask don't tell" over-turned. I think gay marriage should be legal, etc. However people have to acknowledge the roll of artistic license in creative film making. Developing a chararcter included giving them good and bad traits depending upon who they are. I'm against murder, but don't think we should eliminate it from films either.
Your argument is far too logical for many of the commenters on this blog.
For crying out loud, don't we have more important things to worry about????????
The character is an insensative jerk who does not watch his mouth. So in the movie he is wrong saying it. That is one of the character faults. Dear God grow up. See the film and how it is used before you even think it is bashing.
Hey I'm fat too! Screw losing weight! Lets start FAAD. Fat Alliance Against Defamation. Thats easier than making a choice not to be fat. Well, to be PC it would be OAAD (O for Overweight). FAAD sounds better. Lets go with that. That is PHAT! Now I'm glad. No, Not that GLAAD.
....and you could have chosen not to be stupid. Actually, by your own logic, you couldn't have – you were just born that way. Maybe you need SPASS - Stupid People Against Stupid Stuff.
This is for Dan. Thank you for proving a point of view I support. When you used the word stupid in the context you used it in, that just proved all the statements made about how the gay community is over-reacting. We are talking about censorship to support a lifestyle.
I was using comedy to lighten the situation. You victimized yourself, and you should get some help for that. Also, calling someone stupid is like calling someone gay. You know it doesn't help bring us together.
Thanks
Jarrett Barrios, welcome to my world. For years people have never had a problem with indian giver, redskin or iinjun . Its obvious Howard isn't a bigot. The simple fact is this, like the word Injun calling something gay is an accepted part of our society.
I guess the ones that have no problem with the use of the gay term being used.. also have no problem with gay marriage and DADT being repealed. THANKS GUYS YOU ALL ROCK!
Ahh, the beacon that is America......
NOT
good for ron howard much praise
Oh My GOD!!! Yes I used the Lords name in vain there. Is everyone gonna shun me now?!!!
Is this actually a serious matter? I am shocked and appalled that this is turning into such a big issue!! The word gay is NOT being used in a derogatory way in this movie and even if it was... What is the big deal. It's a movie!!
What about all the movies out there that portray a part of history like the Holocaust or times of slavery or any sort of war movie. Anyone ever heard of Schindlers List? I can name a few derogatory terms used in that movie that were way more offensive.
The fact is many movies are meant to raise awareness. And some movies use real terms used in everyday life that are, in this case, not meant to hurt someone.
If you try to take away freedom of speech then you might as well take away freedom in general. This is a lame attempt to make a point.
2 thumbs up to Howard for using his freedom of speech and not backing down.
Don't go crying wolf on something as rediculous as a movie. Movies don't make people arrogant, people make people arrogant. Grow up!!
I applaud Ron Howard for sticking to his guns.. I live in San Diego, right near Hillcrest, which is widely considered the best gay-borhood in America.. Needless to say, I don't have a problem with gay men and women. I do, however, have a problem with wanton censorship and knee-jerk reactions regarding entertainment.. Y'ALL ARE TRIPPIN'... I don't think the movie is going to be particularly good, but I'll see it just to spite the dumb muthaflowers who are trying to handcuff our greatest divine gift: FREE WILL... TAKE THAT AWAY AND THE WHOLE DOING IT IN THE BUTT/CLAM-BUMPING THING PROBABLY DOESN'T COME INTO VOGUE IN THE FIRST PLACE! we would have just stuck to the script(ure) lol.. Hope I stirred the pot smoke..
You people are ridiculous, and by you people I mean the gay community. What's the big deal??????? All you people do is cause problems. Everyone is out to get you. You should all make a date with Al Sharpton and and think of what trouble you can cause next.
From reading these comments, the "pot" has been stirred. Keep the joke in the movie, I am tired of righteous people telling me me what I can or can not say.
Amen to Mark's prior post.... "Actors/Actresses use God's name in vain all the time and no one gets up in arms about that."
Woe to those in the last days who call evil good and good evil.
amazing. never ceases to amase me the idiocy of these groups...
"if storytellers, comedians, actors and artists are strong-armed into making creative changes, it will endanger comedy as both entertainment and a provoker of thought"... Right on!
Obama's red head hollywood mouthpiece determines it's ok to be politically incorrect and insensitive. How ironic.
@Mark
I offended that you capitalized the word 'god'. So there! Where does it end? And as far as this simple use of a word in a non-derogatory way causing young people to kill themselves is equally silly. That's like demanding no one use the word 'shoot' because causes people to kill someone with a gun.
The moderator of this blog don't like me. He/she won't post my very benign comments. I wonder if this will post?
Sorry, my mistake. The moderator is just gay.
There have been many other examples of this use of the word "gay" in a derogatory manner...One recent one, on Glee last year, Kurt (who is gay) said, "Mr. Shue, that song is gay", and he did not mean it was happy!! I don't recall GLAAD being all up in arms over that utterance of the word "gay", and Glee has a large viewership, so potentially lots of people heard that and should be offended by it, or hurt by it. Lighten up a little, it is being used to illustrate the point that the character is a bonehead, and that seems acceptable. He isin't going to do a tirade about how being gay is wrong, he is just going to use the word inappropriately, and it's not a "G" rated fild...in short, GET OVER YOURSELVES GLAAD
Too bad Opie is leaving his "gay joke" in. It's not funny and doesn't even make sense. Yo, Opie, can you spell D U M B ?
when movies use races words to describe blacks, jews or hispanics it ok, but say something about gays and you just caused the whole lot of them to kill themselves...... WOW!
Yep. Also, Christians can be called "holy rollers" or "bible thumpers" and it gets a laugh all the time, its acceptable to demean Christianity, lots of other things..but don't do a gay Joke!!!
This represents the biggest hypocrisy in our country today. The lefties and PC Police are all for free speach and artistic freedom as long as they agree with what you say. Otherwise look out.
I think GLAAD should apologize to electric car manufacturers for assuming "gay" was used as a pejorative. They seem to assume electric cars are bad, so the comment was a slight. I think vaughn meant gay people are sensible, frugal, good for the environment, and don't sponsor funding the oil industry responsible for our wars and the two worst ecological disasters we have seen. Seems pretty positive to me! Sounds like gay is good to me. I guess these guys are just looking for a fight.
Best comment ever. Spot on.
Howard's self-satisfyed, likes to stir the pot, thing is meant to be a gutsy stance, but is really deaf, selfish and pretty cowardly. Among his options, It's the easiest that really won't get him in any trouble. I'm sure this was after a week of polling his "team," publicist, etc.
I would have taken it out, especially now with the rash of teen suicides. The argument that it’s dangerous to freedom of speech is, of course, disingenuous.
"The argument that it’s dangerous to freedom of speech is, of course, disingenuous."
Why? Or should we just agree because you said so?
There is nothing disingenous about the fear losing our freedom of speech and expression. If we aren't allowed to voice our opinions for fear we'll hurt someone's feelings, that's censorship, whether legislative or societal.
You're crying over a line spoken by a fictional caracter in a fictional story. Instead of getting up in arms, why not use this movie character as a means to point a spotlight on ignorance and intolerance? Just don't ruin entertainment for the rest of us.
If you don't like the language that's in a movie, then don't go to the movie. It's as easy as that. Stop whining.
I'm tired of people telling me what I can and can't say. People can say things that offend me or push their immoral lifestyle on me in everyday life, in every situation, then get offended when it's the other way.
It wasn't even a gay joke. It was a use of the word gay that's been common for as far back as I can remember. And Anderson Cooper had something to say about the line? Really? No offense but has he even come out of the closet yet?
ANYWAYS, thanks Ron Howard for not giving into the butthurt(no pun intended) "we're sensitive for everyone" crowd of America.
There are several things that I do not understand here. Gays refer to themselves and each other as "Gays" and when they come out of the closet, presumably they tell people that they are "gay." Then there's the whole "gay pride" kick. Yet when someone refers to an inanimate object as being "gay" then you insist that the very term you use to describe yourselves is derogatory.
The "G-word," unlike the "N-word," has many other meanings that applied well before the word eventually was applied toward those attracted to their gender. In that regard, the "G-word" is much like the "F-word" as it's one of the few words that can be used interchangeably as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, etc. The "G-word" then, is very much like those that are gay because they have to adapt to their surroundings to fit in, just as everyone else does.
One more point is that when people use the term "Retarded" to describe something other than a person born with a mental disability, nobody really intends to hurt or offend "retarded" people. In fact, I would say that only the most soul-less heathens of society would purposely offend those born that way. The same can be said with the use of the "G-word" in this movie line. Was it INTENDED to be derogatory toward gays? No. It's meant to be derogatory toward the Electric Car as the word "Gay" has evolved also to include the meaning of "stupid or ridiculous."
If you doubt whether or not the word "Gay" has developed so many meanings, I recommend listening to the opening jingle to "The Flintstones" where they joyously sing, "Have a Yabba-Dabba-Doo time. A Dabba-Doo time. We'll have a gay old time!" So you see? "Gay" also means "Yabba-Dabba-Doo."
You should be happy that Vaughn's character used the word and then go buy an Electric Car, because really the loser with this movie line is the environment.
So you see? "Gay" also means "Yabba-Dabba-Doo."
LMAO!
The point is that the word gay isn't being used to mean happy or "yabba dabba do". He is not saying that electric cars are happy and good times. He is saying that they are stupid, thus giving the negative connotation that gay=stupid. When people use the word retarded, unless they are referring to a process such as "the sponge retarded the further spread of oil" they are most certainly referring to the mentally challenged. If someone says that's "retarded", they are using the word in a negative way insinuating that something is again stupid"
>> One more point is that when people use the term "Retarded" to describe something other than a person born with a >> mental disability, nobody really intends to hurt or offend "retarded" people.
They might not INTEND to hurt anyone, but they do. Just what do you think they mean when they say "retarded"? They mean "messed up".
What if a movie shows a thug shooting an innocent civilian to death, and another character said "oh, that's so black"?
Offensive? Of course it is.
If you have a character who's insensitive, why would you expect sensitivity from them. Archie Bunker would never see the light of day in this day and age! Sad.
Susan, you are so right. Archie Bunker never opened his mouth without offending someone. In fact, I don't think any of Norman Lear's work would get air time these days. What a pity that would be.
When a "word" is considered so offensive that it cannot be uttered, then someone or group is using it to promote their victimization. Can't use the N word unless you're black? Can't joke about gays, stuttering, the mentally retarded, the handicapped (cripples), ethic groups, etc.? Depending on the context, it may be rude, it may be socially unacceptable, but should not be forbidden. Children are an exception and should definitely not be harassed or bullied. The use of these words is an indication of something wrong in society but individuals should be allowed to use them. It more or
less calibrates the person using the word.
Harry
I don't get what the big deal is. If they want people to come across as real then they have to say real things. Unfortunately people say things like this. Are they to edit everything because it might offend someone. Well then we have about 45 words in the english language that will be ok to use. Something offends everyone. Is it insensative..YES...does it sound like something you would hear everyday from any random person you talk to..YES...get over yourselves. If the line said..Electric cars are gay and you should beat them...then yes...there would be something to cry about. Stop being such babies
There isn't enough cheese on the planet to go with all the "whine" in these comments.
Censorship is ugly. If we all had the same sensitivies, the same beliefs, the same opinions, what a boring world it would be. And yet, all this PC nonsense of the last couple of decades seems to be pushing us towards just that. What a bunch or cry-babies we have become.
It's a fictional character in a fictional story. Get a grip!
Let's focus our derision on fat people. They're still fair game, right?
I'm not mean; you're just a sissy.
Hey, we don't have to go and see the movie, just because he insists on showing it the way it. I will be sure to miss this movie.
So what if he had said that's so ni**er?? Would that have been acceptable? It's putting the concept of gay in a negative light..
Thank you! Your point is exactly right.
Kudos to Ron Howard for not caving in to the pressure to be politically and socially correct. Next thing you know, GLAAD will make Hannah Barbera edit the word 'gay' out of the Flintstones intro.
/ We'll have a [merrymaking] old time!
// Wiiiiiiiiiiiiilmaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
You are right, Cynthia. Good for you, Ron. I don't usually go to the movies, but now I am going to make sure I check this one out.
I guess if he were to use the word gay and many people have no problem with it.. I guess the reaction would have been the same had he used the "N" word. Same diff right? Freedom of speech.
Tell you what, why doesn't any white person exercise their freedom to speak and drop the N bomb in the middle of queens or brooklyn. Go ahead, try to exercise that right of yours..
And don't ever say electric cars are WASP-y. How rude! I would totally be offended and have to whine about it too!
Well.... electric cars are gay.
When isn't the gay community outraged about something?
Exactly!!! Great point!
Anyone else find it ironic that a NEWS anchor is one of the participants calling for censorship?
I will definitely watch the movie. I don't think that anyone should censor art. Art comes from within. The writer gets the words from inspiration. How dare anyone tell the artist how to think and what to say. If you don't want to see the movie don't go. When I saw Clint Eastwood's film Gran Torino, I thought that the character was very racist. I could not imagine Gran Torino being the movie that it was if someone came along and said we want you to change some of these words so that everyone can tolerate the film; how dumb!
This article is so gay
Lighten up, Francis ...
i think a lot of people need to relax.
It's just a word. Words have no power unless you put the power in the word. Jeez, there's so much more going on in the world than to get your panties in a bunch over a flipping word.
It's not necessarily that they are using the word, it is the infetrence that gay means studid and also refers to a minority of the population. Imagine the outrage you would see and hear if N**ger was used as a term to mean stupid and lazy or as a line in the movie, or Kyk*? As you can see, you can't even type those words in here as they have been deemed offensive. The point is that in this context the use of teh word gay has a negative meaning.
People....get over yourselves. Every race makes jokes about other races so why should gays get special sanction that they should be above the fray? If gays want everyone to love them, NASA has found a couple of earth-like planets they can move to. Otherwise get over it.
This is a joke right? The problem here is that honest remarks about your feelings has become politically incorrect, unless you are in a minority group.If you disagree or don't like someone or something keep it to yourself. Although I don't agree with Archie Bunkers politics, isn't it better to know where someone stands on an issue than to have them lie to you and stab you in the back. Hey wait a minute... thats how our current president got elected.
Wow, surprised that he actually stood up to the PC thugs. Way to go Ron. Don't let these thugs censor you!!
I think I see the difference in what he's trying to say. You can say the N word without being derogatory and the same applies to the word gay. Okay...Now the next time I want to say you're acting like an N word..that's okay? Gays are a minority just like blacks...so it's okay...got it!
I am GLAAD they are keeping it in the movie. The Gays that have a problem with it need to get over themselves. I didn't know that GLAAD was censoring movies now. In fact, I'm not sure what GLAAD means...( Gay Lesbian Absurd Action Department )?
Censorship is a much bigger issue in this country than the need for political correctness with reference to any perjorative.. I agree there is a civil rights issue in this country with the treatment of gays, but in the end, change advocates are trying trying to systemically strong arm society into baring the weight of raising and managing kids and individuals with poor coping skills- when it should start and end with proper parenting and or the individuals themselves. Gay rights will happen because it's right, not because people are coerced into one rigid vernacular at the further expense of free speech.
A lot of people are making a big deal about the recent suicides and school bullying that CNN reported on. In truth, LGBT groups are one of the highest groups prone to suicide. It is a sad truth, but there is no crisis, just recent news media trending. 3000 people commit suicide each day, every 100 minutes a teenager commits suicide. Those numbers haven't changed but media fixation has grown tremendously. I am all for the recent public awareness but the fact of the matter is that the media only did this because a few white young people killed themselves, and this is an excuse for a story that will convince people there is a crisis and the white youth are in danger.
But I digress. I am all for free speech, and I firmly believe that all is fair in comedy and there should never be any limitations. GLAAD are morons to think a little joke in a movie will somehow tear us apart, there are plenty of more harmful things out there from fundamentalist hate mongering to irresponsible news media. Filmmakers and studios should be held accountable when something is harmful, but this is not the case, it is just a stupid joke that should not represent the entire movie or be used by GLAAD for publicity.
What's the big deal? I don't hear any electric cars yelling about this. The character calls the car gay, correct? When I start reading that the Prius and the Insight are going to boycott the movie, then you'll have a story. Lighten up!
Come on people! lighten up! For Vaughn to say "electric cars are gay" and to have people up in arms is ridiculous.It is not a slur, just light comedy. It's getting to the point where you have to watch every little thing you say or do. It's just stupid now. I am totally for gay marriage, rights, etc. but this is getting really picky.
Gays are so Gay
Gays want to be in the military but are going to wilt because some movie has a line that says "Electric cars are gay?" Wow...
Does anyone know the real reason they are making such a stink about this? Because..... they are GAY.
Glad somebody is standing up for sensibility, go Ron! It may be an insensitive line, but since when does -EVERYTHING- in our world need to be sensitive? The way things are going we will all eventually just sit in a bubble in our own home listening to birds tweet, and we'll miss stupid movies about insensitive characters.
Thank you Ron Howard!!!!!!!!!! it his film.My god it a word.
gay gay gay. so what. if you gay get use to it.it so gay.
Anderson must be gay.
I thought gay meant happy...so wouldn't that make electric cars happy? why do groups of people have to twist words to make it look like it is offensive? Get over yourselves. what happened to sticks and stones will break my bones but words will never hurt me? I bet GLAAD will say it is ok for someone to use the word gay if you are one but if you aren't one, then it must be offensive. sound like any other groups or nationalities on the planet?
Just another chance for a nobody to get on his soapbox, claim using a word is going to result in the end of mankind, and get his 15 minutes in the media. Can't we limit these people to just one 15 minutes per lifetime?!?
I love a good joke as much as the next person, and maybe saying something is gay is not that terribly offensive, but to be honest its getting old. I am so tired of hearing people spouting off "That's so gay" and using it in a derogatory way and not even know what they're saying. It just sounds uneducated. Anyone with a dictionary can find half a dozen more intelligent ways of expressing what they are trying to say.
its about time someone stands up to stupidity
Being gay is the biggest joke God could of played on you....LOL
YBP
I am not asking you to censor your precious film, Mr. Howard. It's a done deal. It cannot and should not be changed. But I am saying that this line shouldn't have made it into the film in the first place. It's not funny (so please stop referring to it as a joke). It's pedestrian. It's childish. And we have come to expect better from you. Much better.
I agree with Ron Howard! Just because certain people are offended, it doesn't mean he needs to be subjected to censorship or arm twisted into expressing his own ideas/plots/characters in his films.
If people don't like it..let them not watch it.. but I hate how the left always wants to ram-rod their sensibilities and sensitivities on to others.
the country as a whole does not approve of a gay life style.. let time do it's work.. and eventually it will be accepted.. till then.. if people make jokes about it..let them do so.
Not sure why this is even an issue. We see this in movies ALL THE TIME. See the below quote from the 40 Year Old Virgin:
Cal: You're gay, now?
David: No, I'm not gay. I'm just celibate.
Cal: I think... I mean, that sounds gay. I just want you to know this is, like, the first conversation of, like, three conversations that leads to you being gay. Like, there's this and then in a year it's like, "Oh, you know, I'm kinda gonna want to get back out there, but I think I like guys," and then there's the big, "Oh, I'm... I'm... I'm a gay guy now."
David: You're gay for saying that.
Cal: I'm gay for saying that?
David: You know how I know you're gay?
Cal: How? How do you know I'm gay?
David: Because you macramed yourself a pair of jean shorts.
Cal: You know how I know *you're* gay? You just told me you're not sleeping with women any more.
David: You know how I know you're gay?
Cal: How? Cause you're gay? And you can tell who other gay people are?
David: You know how I know you're gay?
Cal: How?
David: You like Coldplay.
EXACTLY!.. this is so common in movies all over!
"Boy thats just gay".. phrase is ubiquitous.
why single Ron Howard out!
Aren't we overlooking the crux of the issue here? Electrics cars ARE totally gay
Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Can a character in a movie, who is supposed to be offensive, no longer say anything that is offensive?
The idiot forgot the only group you can make fun of now days are Christians.
I find Vince Vaughn to be extremely boring and while I like Ron Howard as a person I don't find him to be all that creative as a director so with or without the gay joke I have no desire to see this film.
Good for Howard! Its about time someone told the PC police to F Off!!!
Every one just put on your big girl panties. It's a movie. Watch it and enjoy the show or don't. It is not a big deal.
I am not asking you to censor your precious film, Mr. Howard. It's a done deal. It cannot and should not be changed. But I am saying that this line shouldn't have made it into the film in the first place. It's not funny (so please stop referring to it as a joke). It's pedestrian. It's childish. And we have come to expect better from you. Much better.
Says YOU!
Not the vast majority of people.. OR even if it isn't the vast majority of people who don't identify with gay sensitivities, it doesn't matter.. It's a FRIGGING MOVIE!..
Just like everything else in life being "gay" comes with its own set of consequences. The rest of society does NOT have to change because YOUR thin skinned. I say "gay" all the time and along with Billions of other people on the planet will not change this because poor little Anderson Cooper or anyone else for that matter got upset... lmfao! If you dont like it too bad dont watch the movie!
I think allot of you are missing the point. The word "gay" in today's society can habe the same meaning as the word "lame". So he's saying the cars are lame or a similar meaning. That means folks that are overly impressionable may decide against an electric car which could, in the long run, hurt the economy and environment.
I can't stand Ron Howard and I dislike his movies but I agree with his statement.
Well...welll well...it will never stop becuse being gay is NOT normal, it is a defect that needs to be corrected...thank goodness God is killing all of you with AIDS just wish it was quicker......you all still dont get it no matter what anyone says to you about how OK it is....THEY ARE LYING!! they are trying to be PC but as soon as they turn their back guess what?? you will still be gay and they hate it it makes them want to puke........I get no special treatment for being straight you will not get any for being gay.
And ohhhh the poor kids that are killing themselfs over being teased because they are gay LOL please.....just reconfirms the truth.
Your entire post underscores why GLAAD raised this issue in the first place.
I'd have a lot more respect for Anderson Cooper if he just came out – his coming out of the closet would do much more to help gay kids feel OK about themselves than censoring a trailer ever would.
People who whine about the line "electric cars are gay" are gay. Get over it.
Calling things gay is so red headed , freckle faced and bald !
Good for you, Ron. My wife and I are over due for a night out and your movie sounds very funny.
I am just worn out over all of the thin skinned people with no common sense, no sense of humor, and no sense of legitimate thought and opinion.
I agree with Ron, no censorship. People by in large do not try to offend but whenever some else tries to interprert what was said then here we go again, call the PC police.
GAY GAY GAY, who cares its freedom of speech. maybe we should stop cursing in movies too because it teaches our kids bad words.....all I hear is a bunch of people whining, if you don't like don't go see ha look problem solved!
People write plays and movies, not only to entertain, but to make statements. Is this the statement that you want to make, Mr. Howard? That gay means 'bad?" Or is it that electric cars are 'bad?' Either way, it's irresponsible.
Ok so after reading all the comments here, the verdict is in. There will be NO gay people at this movie, so it's ok for the normal people to go see it.
Thanks sweeties....
bosweb
Archie Bunker did more to foster change with his racist, biggoted comments than almost any other entertainment-based character. Saying "wrong" things can help people make right choices.
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You've got to be crapping me. All this over a one-liner? Get a damn grip. Absolutely pathetic.
hilarious that the gay activists want to censor lines in movies. as a gay man i think they are being absurd to the enth degree. ron howard is a great director and he is absolutely correct in refusing to let glaad censor his films.
get over it!!!! you would think in this day and age we can have the freedom to say whatever we freakin' feel like! i am glad ron decided to keep this in the film. so many regulations on everything in this country. i'm starting to think americans advertise freedom better than actually having freedom! it's comedy for crying out loud! raise your kids and DON'T let the media raise them! UGH!
Its a movie people. get over it
I am a 5'5 male and I'm requesting a ban on the phrases "fell short" and "came up short" because they hurt my feelings.
I'd be more upset being a man named "Noel."
now my name is getting made fun of...can we ban that too? I'm gonna go kill myself
LOL...don't be gay.
"Electric cars are gay." "Creative changes." "Censorship." "Gay joke."
Mr. Howard, this is not Shakespeare. This isn't even remotely creative or funny. You should have caught this before it was filmed and asked your screenwriter to stretch his imagination for something with a bit more wit. Or is this movie aimed at the average American 9-year-old schoolyard thug?
Bingo! That's EXACTLY whom Hollywood movies are aimed at. Are you surprised? Then where have YOU been?
I'm Italian AND Jewish, my wife's Polish AND Jewish, my kids are Polish, Italian Jews. So, which joke do you want to hear? We've heard them all and most of the time (by far) chuckle at the humorous stereotypes. Sometimes we lament the more insensitive humor. We always defend the right of the teller to do so and NEVER get on a soapbox about a perceived injustice. We cannot change our heritage nor do we want to as we are proud of who we are.
If being gay is such a hardship, then shut up and don't go about flaunting it at every opportunity. Pride doesn't mean dressing in ridiculously provocative costumes and marching half naked in a parade then crying about being insulted. Pride is knowing who you and living your life as the best person you can be.
I know there's a lot of self-loathing over being whatever you claim to be, but your children aren't killing themselves over it. I don't know of any kind of Jew that can be insensative to this sort of thing. Aren't you afraid of another Holocaust? The climate is right, you know. Here in America. It can happen. And we surely haven't learned any lessons from the first one. You must be more Italian or Polish than you are Jewish...neither of which is known for brains, heart or courage. Maybe you ought to see the Wizard.
@YBP, You said, "You must be more Italian or Polish than you are Jewish...neither of which is known for brains, heart or courage."
THIS is a bigoted statement, attacking a persons ethnic background and belittling their "brains," "heart" and "courage." This is nothing like a silly word with multiple meanings coming out of a characters mouth, "gay," when referring to a car. This is a direct attack, addressed to a specific person. CAn one be pro gay and anti Italian and anti Polish? Apparently YBP can.
YBP...Did you read and UNDERSTAND what I wrote. I am sorry for you. It is obvious from all your post that YOU are not happy with yourself. I will not loathe you for your personal attack, nor will I disparage you in return. However, I will pray that you find some sort of peace with yourself and others.
Are you kidding me? I have had more offensive things said to me in my office this morning. What a joke. Not sure what the gay community hopes to gain by being the arbiter of all things decent and socially acceptable. What a waste of time. GLAD has more important things to do, like secure marital and other civil rights. The platform of the entire gay community has become almost synonymous with the right wing...censorship and telling people how to conduct themselves. The irony is rich...
he should have added "it says so in the bible...."
now that would have been even funnier
Talk about nit-picking! Oh, I'm sorry, that was insensitive to lice!
It's not that offensive, and it's part of the character. This type of controversy is GOOD for us, because it allows us to dicuss the feelings comments like this generate in a safe environment. It's a line said by a FICTIONAL CHARACTER, so we can us it to show what is inappropriate language.
I for one am offended that everyone is universally ok with using D-Bag in a derogatory manner. We D-Bags have been a facet of the community for years, and we take pride in our Douchieness. Why is it not ok to call someone a racial slur or "gay", but its perfectly ok to use D-Bag in a derogatory manner. If we are really aiming for equal rights, then we need to stop the hate against D-Bags.
When will the D-Bags of this country stand up and fight for their rights? Anderson Cooper, Wolf Blitzer, The Situation, Terrell Owens, Joy Behar, Tim Robbins, Snookie; why aren't you D-Bags outraged the way I am. You're in the position of power where you can make a change through the media!
It's time we stand up for our rights!
D-Bags Unite!
the difference between saying something is "gay" and calling someone a "stupid breeder" is that there is no chance an offhand slur like that would put a straight person in any physical danger. In fact, a gay hating straight person just may see that movie and that one line will spur their underlying hatred into action. who knows? but the interesting things is how ron howard is obviously so completely out of touch with what is even remotely funny. Vince Vaughn? Electric Cars are gay? The 12 dollars that will stay firmly in my pocket and not Ron Howard's has final say.
You aren't really that stupid/shallow, are you?
to Bill: It may sound stupid and shallow to you that I've pointed out that straight people bash gays and gays do not bash straights. I've never once read about how a gay person got to their boiling point and just erupted over their irrational hatred of straights and killed a person. I've also never heard of a straight person killing themselves because they were bullied on the school yard by a group of angry gays. It doesn't happen that way Bill. I don't know why straights kill gays. Do you? If you do, please share with the rest of us stupid and shallow people who would like to know. Promoting hatred isn't funny or interesting. And if ron howard is using that 'joke' as the buzz point of his movie...again bill...i'll keep my money.
Ever heard of Jeffrey Dahmer?
See? Out of 7 billion people, the kind "guest" found one! Did you ever think that he was just HUNGRY? Jeez!
I am a gay man and find this PC stuff to be really getting out of hand. If you don't the line in the movie, don't go see it. The first time I saw the trailer I laughed, it's funny. We all need to laugh at ourselves more.
Why can't we go back to using the word "ho-mo-se-xu-al?"
It's more accurate.
I had to hyphenate the word because it wouldn't be allowed otherwise.
Research where the word originated from... I'll wait, you're on the web...
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exactly, I'll stick with gay, thank you.
Because, David, no one should be summed up and labeled based on what they do for s-e-x.
Correct me if I am wrong...but i dont think that the sensitive part was the word "gay". I think that people are angry that they are being insensitive to electric cars...they are the future you know (unlike gays)
Do electric cars take it up the tail pipe? No? Then why call them the G-word? That's being really insensitive to cars!
Are there gay muslims? Talk about a disenfranchised group! I suppose if you wanted to be extra un-p/c, you'd say, "Oh my goodnes, that sure is muslim gay;" meaning of course it's extremely so. (Do you hate me yet: or are you laughing? The answer to that question will say a lot about you since it's just a silly unimportant phrase. It's not an important phrase and it's not a hurtful or meaningful phrase. It can be a funny phrase. If you strongly disagree, may camel fleas infest you while you dine on pork hocks.) Again, are you hating or laughing?
Thank you for that 🙂
This story is gay.
This movie AND this forum is GAY!!!!!
If Acron can get destroyed then so can GLAAD. I'm tired of hearing people's stupid ass feelings. F–K your feelings. And F–k your sensitivity. This will only add more hate towards gay people since people are starting to get sick of this P.C. bulls–t. If gay people don't want to be made fun of then they should just kill themselves RIGHT NOW. Yeah I MEAN IT.
Here's you binky, Little Troll. Now go take a nap.
Way to go Ron. Don't let 'em push you around
Electric cars are jew
Freedom of speech!
You libtards always like to throw that one around, as long as what is being said is OK with you. Heh.
Good job Ron!
I think we're all getting off topic here: let's be real, electric cars ARE g@y.
Yes they are - they are intelligent, forward-thinking, socially conscientious, and of benefit to society.
Well if your going to keep it in Ron Howard. That is your right. I wont go see the movie. And as a gay man, any more movies you make Ron Howard, i will not support you movies. I am not black listing Ron Howards movies,Vince Vaughn's i know you got paid to make this comment and you were doing your job, but i wont be supporting you either. I am now standing up for my rights as a human, as well as a Gay male. I will boycott Ron Howards movies. I know it wont solve anything , but i have my standards and this screams for me to shut down the Howards movies for the rest of my life. Have a great day everyone and thank you for allowing me to voice my views
There is something wrong in this country when minority groups try to pressure the right of free speech and dictate what can be said and what cannot be said. I'm glad that Ron Howard has the clout and guts to stand up against the groups that want to take away our right of free speech. (Its a movie) (Get a life)
That's one way to put it. Perhaps when one of your kids turns out to be gay and kills himself over it, you will see things from a different perspective.
Hope Ron Howard reads over these comments to see how benign his movie's line is. Thanks for contributing to the problem Ron.
By that logic, any movie with a less than perfectly behaved character is contributing to some problem. Since all movies need a villain or conflict of some sort to progress a story, movies are bad period.
Good for Ron Howard, it's just a line in a movie everything doesn't have to be socially enlightening or political
Our country has gone so far with political correctness that it is obscene and offensive to me. Now that would gain some traction if it was actually said by someone who had the ears of the news media. I agree with the poster who applauded Archie Bunker. My father was so close to Archie it made me laugh. A.B. had it all right – now his words would be censored. What a shame mankind has gone so far it doesn't know what is really important and what is not. Get Real – there are so many more important things to whine about – like the economy or the wasteful spending the military is doing.
Sure, all the comments and jokes are fun. Everybody gets a chance to be witty and clever. So what about this one-liner? It's just a movie, it's just one line. Good people, fellow humans, it is not the one line, it is the line here, a law there, a truly atrocious remark made by a co-worker, your boss, teacher, classmate, your parents and relatives. It's the death of a thousand cuts, and it's killing children in our country.
So if gay people seem a little "sensitive", try educating yourself a little. Despite and asertion by young Mr Spartacus (and that name is SO gay) that gay people have the tight to get married, adopt children, etc. there are laws in most stes in the US that specifically rule out gay people from legal marriage. In many states you can still lose your job for being gay,and get kicked out of your apaprtment with no legal recourse.
Please, just stop and think for a moment. Childern are killing themselves rather than put up with the hatred and isolation that face them every day. Every little cut counts.
Making gay jokes is gay.
If all this nonsense p.c. crap continues, we will have to refer to a straight line (like the one created when dragging a pencil along the side of ruler) something else because it might offend someone.
Wow, I get really tired of people today being a bunch of pansies! We all have some trait or some way of life that some one else is not going to like or something about us that someone could make fun off. So what? Are we all 4? Running in to tell our mommies that someone called us a name.... If you don't like it. Don't go and see it Real simple. Last time I checked we all still had freedom of speech. Don't try to squash someone else's views or opinions cause you don't like it. GROW UP AND BE AN ADULT AND QUIT WHINING ABOUT EVERYTHING.
We have starving children. People trapped in mines. Folks being killed by giant waves and earthquakes. Soldiers still dying to fight for this land and all you people want to do it bit** about someone calling an electric car gay????? Get over it!!!!
This is just a line in a movie. All this politically correct crap needs to go away. People can say whatever they want whenever they want and if you are offended, then do not go to the movie. I am not a Ron Howard fan and dislike his political views and I will exercise my right to of choice and skip the movie, but he does have the right to sayw hat ever he wants.
I support equal rights 100%. Gays should be able to get married, serve in the military, and be made fun of. Just like everyone else.
Bravo!
I am gay, and quite frankly, this issue is gay. I mean c'mon. I hear on a day to day basis, the many many many uses of the word. So what? If you've studied comedy, you know that minorities use self induced humor as a means of lessening the seriousness of hateful speech. If you read much of our classic litereature you have undoubtedly encounted hateful words time and time again as a means of providing people a deeper understanding of the words. Sweeping things under the carpet, which is what censorship is about, doesn't answer anything.
Don't just say it, say it with pride... GLAAD, I appreciate your direction, but what you're doing is pretty gay.
BRAVO!
Thank you Dan for you common sense on this issue!
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Gay people have serious insecurity issues. No wonder they are gay.
Is anyone worried about the rampant jokes made at the expense of "rednecks"? Hmmm, guess not. But really, we have developed a culture in which you aren't important unless you are always in a state of "BEING OFFENDED!". We have a fetish with this childishness... "that offends me!"... we have to be a part of some group and then go about the business of finding things that offend us. It is silly.... like a Monty Python skit.
electric cars really are attracted only to other electric cars. personally I think they are born that way, but some people think cars can un-learn gayness by sending the cars to a summer camp with other gay electric cars and teaching them about jesus. it doesn't works, the cars are still gay
All bad words, offensive jokes, guns, blood, stupidity, killing, kissing, lawyers, politicians, urinating, smoking, narcotics, illegal driving, pregnant teens, female skin below the neck and above the ankles, fat people, beer, wine, Coka Cola, and skateboarders getting their nuts cracked on a railing, should be eliminated from Hollywood movies.
It's not even a good line - it's lame script writing.
How about a bald joke? Maybe Ron would like that, since he's cranially "out of the closet" now.
Just wonder how they feel about Mel Brook's movies?
A true legend. They would really freak out on "Blazing Saddles" 🙂
"excuse me while I whip this out" ...
I applaud Ron Howard for having enough common sense to put a stop to these stupid fake offense loads of crap. Stop with this notion that people are offended by words. You cant say this or that you have to be PC. Its making america a neutered society where we fire people in the media for their oppinions or "words". They are so afraid of losing advertising dollars from these "groups" that have fake outrage over words that they censor everything. Its sickening and I applaud anyone who doesn't back down to these idiots.
50 years ago gay meant "fun" hell even the flinstones use it in the intro song "we'll have a gay ole time". Oh and by the way I truly believe these "fake outrages" are just being done to get their propaganda out through the media. Seems like we'll throw a camera on anyone who cries out that their Organization is offended by something. Free media attention.
Good for Ron Howard to stand-up to those who want to crush freedom of speech. The left is a far more dangerous threat in this area than the right. Gay rights activist have become a bit of a scary vocal minority.Kinda like facist.
When will people realize that everybody does something that is offensive to somebody somewhere. We don't have the right to not be offended or have our feelings hurt. We do have the right to free speech. When people speak their mind at least you know where you stand with that individual and can live your life accordingly.
I agree, leave the joke in. Stop with the political correctness, that is exactly why the entire world is phobic and racist...everything is off limits and everyone is so afraid to offend...get over it...my daughter is gay and we joke all the time with her and her girlfriend about how they are gay with a capital G....so what, who cares, get over it, You wanna be noticed sit down and shut the hell up and act like you all deserve a say instead of running around like little children whining about every damn thing....so what if some one is gay, so what if someone is a different race, people do not really care unless this BS that is being made to hype up the media is going on....I have a freind in Iraq who is Kurdish, he asks me why the US media never shows any of the nice calm safe areas that have been helped by the war, embarrassed I have to tell him, nice and safe does not sell newspapers....so they dont report on the nice and safe part! IT IS ALL MEDIA HYPE...GET A LIFE!
What really needs to happen is all the jellyfish in this country need to get a spine. Stop being so soft. This country is turning in a bunch of over emotional....well...gays! Everybody gets picked on or bullied in their life whether it's in school or the business world. Deal with it, stop whining and let it make you stronger. There will always jerks in this world, so get over it and move on you frickin' pansies!
How dare he disrespect electric cars like that.
What is really sad is that no one is defending the feelings of the poor electric cars... No car wants to be gay. They are just made that way.
censorship is gay
I think it is fair to say to every film made has at least one line of dialog that offends someone – perhaps deeply. Does anyone really want to go to a movie that manages to avoid offending everyone in the country? Would it be possible to make such a movie? Ron Howard is right in his opinion and decision. Is this a movie I want to see – probably not – I can go to another movie of my choosing – now that's a novel idea – is called freedom of choice.
I just became a Ron Howard fan
So if we can't laugh at gay people what does that leave? Only fatties to laugh at? What's this world coming to?
"Only fatties to laugh at?" How dare you sir. I am 15 pounds overweight. Do you have any idea how hurtful and destructive your vicious and hateful attack on my self image is? IMMEDIATELY eliminate this word from your vocabulary!
I NEVER want to hear another word, phrase or thought that I might disagree with or be offended by. Especially if it concerns my weight, height, politics, favorite sports team or rock band.
No, you can still laugh at black people, brown people, white people, yellow people, red people, Jewish people, Christian people, Scientology people, foreign people. If that's something you enjoy doing & take great pleasure in. But, of course, one has to ask, "Is Ron Howard inviting you to laugh at gay people?" If the answer is "yes", then GLAAD is right to pressure him in this way. After all, if you & yours are so readily eager to laugh at gay people, then Ron Howard inviting you to laugh at gay people not only perpetuates but also condones and promotes your bigotry. Meanwhile, can we say "electric cars are so Anglo!" so that we can all laugh at white people?
People get made fun of all the time in the movies, is it right, probably not but there is this thing called "Freedom of Speech" and the statement made in the movie does not present a "clear and present" danger.
I wish we could go back to using 'sodomites' instead of 'gay'.
The more we tell people they should be offended by words, the more they are. We should be teaching people to develop a backbone and not sulking everytime they hear a word. I'm Aboriginal Canadian, and I have no problem with the Native jokes my friends hurl at me, simply because I am smart enough to know that they don't mean it maliciously. Smart people know that Vince Vaughan or Ron Howard don't hate gay people.
It all depends on it's usage and by whom. If a villan or an idiot uses it, it further proves on a subconscious level that only bad people or idiots use such terms and make such jokes. If the hero is throwing terms like that around, I'd completely agree that it's bad for society. So before you bellyache about it, consider the context. If you disagree with this and still think it should be taken out or censored (which is what you're doing) then you have a very real problem with sensitivity and your thought process is illogical and YOU are the actual problem. GLAAD should be using more films as a tool to get the word out that only idiots and heathens use these terms and leave everyone else alone! Tarantino's racist characters are usually bad and/or some sort of pig and overall not someone to emulate...yet fine actors who are also African American continue to be drawn to his writing and his projects...be smart people, use hollywood to your advantage. Let the idiots in films say stupid things to illustrate the point, because being the idiot trying to censor only makes the point that YOU'RE the idiot.
Since Vince Vaughn has made a career of playing idiots your point is spot on.
Can't believe AC360 is now AC180. It's a character who says it. And the film's message is, this is NOT good behavior. Good on you RH.
Didn't know the word "gay" was offensive. I have gay friends/family that use the term all the time, when did this happen?
GLAAD members would you just crow a pair and cut the sensitivity Bull SH__T. Crybabies!
ok so we put the word gay in the same context as the lower case "n" word?
Are all movie scripts going to be reviewed for political correctness? Not all characters are politically correct, so why would anyone expect their lines be so? The PC police have the potential to be the Mcarthys of this generation. Better film whats tolerant, or find yourself blacklisted...
.Ron sometime sensitivity means editing , which means it is not censorship....maybe you are that dumb kid from Mayberry who dad had to keep explaining thing to. I wont see the film. Why edit the trailer then scream censorship for the whole film ?
For a such a dumb kid, he'd done pretty well for himself in his lifetime. I would almost bet he's done better than you. I would check your own yard before you start on someone else's.
You must be kidding...who ever is complaing about this line in a movie is way to sensitive... and guess what...
their probably Gay! Who Care's... it's a movie made by Opi Taylor.
Who cares about the joke? The fact that Vince Vaughn is in the movie is enough to keep me away.
I think what everyone is missing here is that it's not the use of the word "gay" that is offensive. It is that the line makes a prejudiced assumption about a group of people. It assumes that all gay people drive these little electric cars. It stereotypes gays. I know many gay people who drive trucks and look, talk and act just like any hetero out there. It's not an act for them, it is the way they are. To some, its no different than their eye color. It's when everyone starts assuming that gays act, look, talk a certain way that the slippery slope starts to get traveled.
From reading the line in question it's pretty clear to me that the character is using "gay" as kids do today, meaning, "lame."
It's a word with multiple meanings. Like "pig" was back in the day. Or "weed" today.
I don't think the joke should be removed. There is a hewg difference between comedy and hate......
I will be saying THANK YOU to Ron Howard. What is the big deal? If you don't want to hear the statement don't go to the movie. End of story. P.S. I think electric cars are GAY too!
I think we should all picket GLAAD and ask them to stop using the word "Gay" since it originally meant "happy." They should find their OWN adjective instead of stealing one that was around for hundreds of years. Pshah! And they call themselves the creative ones.
Whatever happened to "sticks and stones"??? Isn't that what we were taught at a young age? How many people liked "The Hangover"? I don't remember any uproar about using the word "retard". People need to lighten up and realize that words cannot kill anyone, only actions. It's just a word.
Bring back All in the Family again. People need gain a littler perspective.
It's getting to the point that we cannot complete a full sentence without someone being offended. I personally believe that when someone is "good" with theirself, they could care less what others say. I tell people all the time....."it's none of my business what you think about me." LOL.....reallly freaks some people out. 🙂
Let me see are we still in the USA yes. then i believe the man has the freedom of speech to put any damn thing he wants in his film. You people who are so sensitive can choose not to watch the movie. That is your freedom here in the good ole USA. I think its totally stupid that a person in the director's position has to be conserned with this kind of crap. I have no problem with gay people in general none what so ever. But get over yourself. Just cause your Gay does not give you the right to tell other people what they have the right to put in their movies,blogs or any other place where freedom of speech is able to be expressed. And i think its wrong that people are even telling grade school kids about gay people at all that is a parents job not the techers. As a parent i would be very upset to learn if a teacher or some one at my kids school took it upon themselves to explain gay people to my kid. People need to get over themselves and learn that life is not all about Gays or Race some times a joke is just a joke.
It's like Carlos Mencia said. "If they can take a d:ck" they can take a joke".
GLAAD is not glad at all. They are a band of fools who have screwed up their lives who are trying to make us think they are glad. If GLAAD want's to continue on its path to Hell, let them do so. But they are not going to drag the rest of the country down with them.
Ugh, all this PC crap has got to stop. Seriously, if you are going to be offended. Don't watch it. A lot of "comedy" movies now a days are filled with cursing and derogatory words. So again, if you don't want to hear or see it, then don't watch it. Duh.
Good for you Ron! It is about time someone stood up against the growing pressure to censor what is not deemed politically correct these days. Everyone gets called names at some point. Some people just need to grow up and get over it.
Exactly. Jeez....
Stop being so gay! Electric cars ARE gay. Leave it in the movie. Put it back in the trailer even.
I wish there was a "like" button for this!
About time that someone stood up for FREEDOM OF SPEECH. This is just a line in a movie. It is not a life and death situation. Everyone stop getting your panties into a wad and just listen to yourself. You sprew hate whether you think you do or not. Everyone is allowed their own opinion. I'm glad that someone is fighting back. I try just like everyone else to say the politically correct thing but sometimes my tongue is quicker than my thought. Should I be held liable because I made an inadvertent comment? That is all it is – words. They don't hurt like sticks or stones. Words never killed someone. Get a life. Stop nitpicking every single word that is uttered by anyone and everyone.
I AM SO PUZZLED OF WHAT THE FUSS IS WHEN THEIR ARE SO MANY F--Y- AND HORRIBLE LANGUAGE USED ON THE BIG SCREEN TODAY THAT A TERM GAY, WHICH COULD HAVE MORE THAN ONE MEANING, BRINGS SO MUCH ATTENTION. WE CAN BULLY, WE CAN SWEAR AT PEOPLE, BUT WOW DO NOT USE A TERM BECAUSE IT OFFENDS .
I JUST WISH PEOPLE WOULD TAKE MORE TIME TO HELP WHAT IS WRONG IN THIS COUNTRY RATHER TAKE SO MUCH TIME ON SOMETHING SO NOT IMPORTANT. GOD IS THE ONLY JUDGE . LET PEOPLE BE WHO THEY WANT AND NOT MAKE SUCH ISSUES. TEACH OUR YOUTH THAT GOD DID NOT MAKE CHUNK THEY ARE ALL SPECIAL!!!!!
Screw those clowns at GLAAD, they're a bunch of depraved perverts.
I am so glad that Ron didnt bend to all of these crazies. Having to cut out the word gay is just flat out gay
WWKPS: What would Kenny Powers Say?
Well then maybe black people should stop using the 'N' word
Why don't you instead question why white people still use that word.
Because she's not gay.
You are so stupid, Susan. I'm assuming by your idiotic question that you've polled all Blk ppl?!? Funny, I didn't get my questionnaire....
I support gay rights, I support gay marriage and I support Ron Howards right to write his movie as HE sees fit. I also support everyone's right not to pay to see a movies they think might offend them.
It's called freedom of expression folks!
Jeez. Gay people are so Gay. Next the Richards of the world will want us to stop using the term "dick". And Johns will want us to start saying "toilet" again. And Xerox....no, they probably still like that.
LOL!!! You're silly! LOL!!!
Doesn't make me want to go see the movie, any more than the fuss over the word 'retard' made me want to see that Ben Stiller movie. I never saw it, never rented it, don't want to watch it free on cable. End of story.
Harry Seaward thought gay meant happy...does this mean We have to re-write the Flinstones theme song now? Harry Seaward
Don't insult anyone's intelligence. We all know that society evolves and what once was considered normal can now be considered discriminatory. It has to do with enlightenment, compassion, and understanding or have you not yet evolved?
I like Howard and figure he's a pretty progressive person due to the stuff he's done in the past. But I think he's wrong on this one. Time to put the word to rest the way it's used pejoratively in this film. The word, the way it's used, is demeaning on a number of levels and – yes – allows people old and young to use the word in a very nasty way. My father is one of the world's biggest bigots and uses this word (and worse) to spout his hatred but he actually thinks he's being respectful.
And I'm sick to death of people using the 'politically correct' phrase. There is no such thing as 'politically correct'. That is a phrase dreamed up by racists and bigots to use when they don't have a defense for their attacks and ugliness. So they attack the offended and try to turn it around. Conservatives use the phrase all the time to back up their prejudiced agendas.
I suppose GLAAD and kd down the thread here wants there to be an end to movies based on real people, because these are things that real people say. Through constant narrow mindedness, the politically correct have devolved into the mentally retarded. Oops! I suppose now The ARC and kd are going to put me on report! This isn"t a speech about someone's opinions. It's a story, and stories evolve around plots that are evolved by characters. This is something that the character in the movie would say, at least at the beginning of the movie before he evolves into a better person. The idea that we can no longer tell stories about flawed characters is ludicrous, especially since every single one of us has a flawed character, even those snooty noses amongst us who think they don't. Grow up and learn what a story is.
I agree that we need not be so sensitive. However, what if the line was something like, "Only (insert the N word here) drive electric cars." What then? What would the press, the National Black Caucus and the NAACP have to say, you think? I bet Jessy Jackson would call for a boycott of Hollywood and the immediate public hanging of the precious Ron Howard. What shocks me is that it's perfectly acceptable to use offensive language towards gays but not anyone else. And you wonder why folks get so upset when they are not being treated equally?
Ron Howard will probably come out of the closet by years end... its typical
I agree with you. What passes for comedy today is not comedy. To make light of a person because of what they do or the choices they make is comedy, to make light of a person because of who or what they are is discrimination. It goes back to the meaning of Martin Luther King's words and who wouldn't agree that the world would be a better place if we did judge people by their character and what they did rather than who or what they are?
100% the best argument I've heard Mike W. and I agree completely.
I thought the line in the movie was "electric cars are gay". Not gay people drive electric cars. That has a completely different meaning. What you mean is, what would people think if someone said, "electric cars are "insert N word here)". That doesn't make any sense at all. The word gay also has been used to refer to something being stupid or silly. The N word has never had another meaning other than what it is. So you can't really use that as a comparison.
Oh, please. Don't you DARE compare how one is born (COLOR / Gender) w/ s**uality! There is NO comparison. God did NOT create g*y. To say that is to say God create you just to destroy you, and that is a lie straight from the pit of hell!
I'm a gay man myself. I wouldn't even think to care about this. It's a movie. Whether it's music, film or otherwise, if people don't want to partake, then they don't have to.
whats worse than straight people telling gay people how to act.
Gay people telling straight people how to act.
I concur with Stephen. I was going to see the movie because I like the actor's and Ron Howard's work, but this "joke" wasn't necessary in the context of the film so I guess I'll pass and give my $18 to PFLAG or GLAAD instead.
okay, well then I want movies to stop showing nudity, to stop using curse words, to stop saying the Lord's name in vain, to stop showing people drinking, blah blah blah.
And why is this even being classified as a "gay joke". The word "gay" has so many meanings. If I say that my hair looks gay today – I don't literally mean that I think my hair looks like a gay person, I think it just looks stupid. OR maybe I mean that it looks happy or delightful.
Jeeze, I am so tired of this. Don't offend the gays, don't offend mexicans, don't offend muslims, don't offend african americans. well, guess what? I am a white, straight, Christian, female and I am offended everyday – but I don't see anyone marching the streets for me. I don't care either. It's life. Get over yourselves.
YOU ROCK SARAH!!!
Although I may agree with the notion that this movie should not be censored...you're wrong about one thing. The whole purpose of calling something or someone "gay" in the context you speak of, is to make fun of it. It's not exactly the highlight of someone's life to constantly be reminded that they're the butt of the joke 24 hours per day.
The last time I checked, you could get married in all 50 states. Last time I checked, a straight couple could walk hand in hand without fear of persecution or threat of bodily harm. Last I checked, Matthew Shepard wasn't a straight man, kidnapped, tortured and murdered by 2 gay men. You don't need to protest because you have it all. Yes, there are issues between straight and gay. However, our journey through life is much more difficult. We deal, we adapt and we overcome. Continued sarcasm, name calling and diminution of our character doesn't help.
Really? Someone is in your face 24 hours a day making fun of you? Interesting.
Of all the things that should offend you or concern you, this should be the last of them. How about worrying about people who are dying everyday from incurable diseases, or the men and women who fight to protect you, or the children who are starving or get beat by their parents everyday.
I don't feel sorry for you.
Sarah,
I dont need or want your pitty. I served my country. I did my duty. I have a loving partner now and am very secure with myself and who I am. Its you that should be ashamed of yourself for not looking at the other side. Continue to support ignorance and you become that which you turn a blind eye too. Lastly, because I do not have time to exchange anymore banter with the likes of you, was the last time you found a cure for an incurable disease? Its funny you mention that.... to a gay man that knows more about incurable disease than you will ever understand. Have a good life. Living in ignorance is bliss, eh?
And you are a legend in your own mind ... if you even have one.
I wish that I could cure a disease. Unfortunately, I wish I did. How much do I know about incurable diseases? Too much. And if I could cure cancer, then my husband would not have died 2 years ago from it.
I have good friends that are gay. I am not ignorant – because I see that there are bigger problems to deal with than a stupid sentence in a movie. There are things in reference to being gay that should offend you, this is not one of them.
You should be upset when a gay individual is killed, or when gays are denied marriage. That is upsetting. Not this
I agree w/ Andrew: Sarah rox!!!!
Mike W. thinks we have it all Sarah. How close-minded of an assumption is that? My religion and my faith is slandered every single day. My look, my style, my demeanor is made fun of every single day. I am never offended if it is only a character in a show etc. I am offended when you say my rights are inferior to yours for what i believe. What a load of hypocrisy Mike W.
Life of Brian is hysterical and I am a Christian. Go have some fun!
I have a gay friend who uses "gay" as a pejorative all the time. He's called me gay. Do I get offended? No, because I know what he is actually trying to convey.
Language changes. "Idiot" used to be a word used to describe the mentally handicapped. No one bats an eye when it is used today to describe generally stupid people. I would never refer to a mentally handicapped person as "retarded" because I believe the word has moved into the same realm as "idiot". People who get upset about it are those who actually think "retarded" and "mentally handicapped" mean the same thing. I don't think they do. To me something that is "retarded" is something that is needlessly confusing or that flies in the face of common sense, i.e. "My computer's operating system is retarded."
Your computer might take offense to that. won't be long now before the group (Computers Against Defamation)CAD comes after you. 😉
The line can only be banned if it in any way commented on Islam, Muslim, or Mohammed. Apparently, those are the only people in the USA right now who can "convince" people that censorship and violating the 1st amendment rights is a "smart" thing to do...like the cartoonist who suggested the "Draw Mohammend Day", who is currently in hiding. The Gay community does not have that kind of influence.
The issue isn't whether or not it is acceptable to use that word since that right is protected by the 1st amendment. Ron Howard had a decision to make and as a creative artist he knows that he could have used another word used to describe the character's persona. He fell short of what is appropriate. I'm neither gay nor a fan of Ron Howard but when we begin to lose our sensitivity toward any one group in our evolving society, then we regress from what should be humanity's ultimate goal of achieving spiritual awakening. Ron Howard should know this. Shame on him.
No. As an artist, he should not give into censorship or the gay mafia that tries to force their agenda on the population. It's the breakdaown of society and giving into perversion which is destroying america.
why are the gays always so butthurt about EVERYTHING?! WAAAH WAAHH grow a friggin pair.
I am gay and I think that there is nothing wrong with the use of the "G" word for humor. For Christ's sake, its just a friggin movie. It's like calling a Jew a Jew. Who cares. I am so sick of the PC police trying to make this a rainbow and sunshine world...
Grow up and realize that our worst actions are a reflection of our humanity.
Gays are way to thin skinned and control freaks, so sorry they lost this one
they give you the right to freedom of speech....unless it offends someone!!! ridiculous, if GLAAD spent as much time trying to impact policymaking as they do complaining about people's individual expression, some progress might be made
Stephen, you're right..... jokes about gays, women always seem to be OK.... but wouldn't even touch blacks, hispanics, or asians..... guess Ron doesn't want to offend his hired help....
I'm hispanic and would the feel the same way about if he used the other words.
Jay and Silent Bob strike back set the bar for language in a movie, yet it is brilliant and funny a movie as I've ever seen.
This story is gay.
If it is offensive to you, don't watch it. Put your protest where it might mean something.
If it is offensive to you, don't watch it. Put your protest where it might mean something.
Everyone needs to get a grip. The primary problem with this country is that everything has to be politically correct in what we do, say etc. It is time people say what is on there mind. This is not a rose colored world we live in. Boo Hoo, so everyone doesn't like you, big deal get a grip.
No Censorship. Let people vote with their wallets! I've gone to and watched Ron Howard films where I knew I wouldn't like the subject matter, simply because they were Ron Howard films. Again, the wallet/pocket book rules. Similarly, after all the outbursts and disgraseful behavior, I won't even spend the $2 to RENT a Mel Gibson movie, no matter how good it might be.
Of course it should stay in the movie – the very idea that a character's opinions should be limited due to some overly sensitive, illogical thinking is ludicrous. If that were the case the only potential movie characters would be overly PC boring, idiots. Do you edit out Hitlers bigoted views in a movie because they are offensive?
For what it's worth, I am personally pro equal rights, in favor of gay marriage and genuinely have many gay friends – this is not about personal opinion, it's about not caving to unreasonable demands from silly people who can't see the wood for the trees.
We have been blessed with the scientific determination there is a genetic motivator for a person to be a liberal. I have been a long time supporter of the premise gays are born with a genetic reason they are gay. I fully support that with the clear understanding other factors such as environment and an amount of choice also play roles. One can only hope they can find suitable treatments for both of these genetic defects and rid the worlkd of both scourges.
Big deal, it's a movie so get over it gay folks.
Why doesn't Ron just put in the word N***er, Sp*c, G**K in the movie as well. See how others like that.
He can keep his movies from now on.
You miss the point... if there was a movie about David Duke and that character said those words of course it's fine – it's who he is – THAT'S THE POINT! No-one would be offended... movies are supposed to reflect life and the characters that inhabit it. Movies are not supposed to self censor themselves to the point of unreality and milque toast characters.
Excellent movie directors such as Clint Eastwood ("Gran Torino") and Quentin Tarantino ("Pulp Fiction") already have. It's called CHARACTER Development, you dolt!
Ok, I'm gay, and I feel like this is getting way too ridiculous. Censoring movies, it's not hurting anybody. Censorship over a word? God what's next? If you can't laugh at yourself go live in a cave...
I saw an unedited version of the trailer when I saw RED the other week. I laughed and so did everyone else there, guess we're insensitive? Oh well, I've been called worse.
If a person wants to be gay that is fine that is there personal business, but why is it that they always find a way to attack everything, enough of being so sensitive, its a movie for one's enjoyment if you don't like it don't see it.
People warned years ago about the slippery slope with all this PC stuff and here we are. Pick just about any comedy made in the last 50 years and I'm sure there's stuff in there that offends some people. Most of the Mel Brooks movies are full of stuff many would find hurtfull and offensive. i'm sure some people who wanted to censor the Vince Vaughn scene have laughed at stuff in movies that offended others.
In a real world there are Archie Bunkers and Peter Griffins. Movie reflect how the real world is. Events and people that, really do exist. I am almost quoting from a married couple, Doug and Ken. At dinner one day we were discussing how being objective and not censoring is the best direction. It is up to us to use our own minds to decide.
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Censorship of certain words was/is tool of communism. Political correctness is a tool how to suppress free speech. Living under communism in my teenage years I have to say that this is very dangerous trend for American society. I can not even count how many times I was called by derogatory terms. Did it bug me sometimes – YES. Did I ever think that it my right to request to take a derogatory term out of dictionary – NO!!! Free speech is an American value one shouldn't temper with. LET STOP BEING SO SENSITIVE!
WAAAA F'N WAAAA
How gay of you to say that.
Gee...I wonder what the letter "G" stands for in GLAAD stands for? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Buehler?
LOL!!!! Classic!
Anderson Cooper should come out of the closet.
Would Ron Howard even think about putting in a line such as, "That's the dumbest nig... I ever saw?" Of course he wouldn't, as he knows that all hell would break out and his "arguments" about free speech wouldn't amount to anything. So why is it okay to still trot out the old and tired gay jokes? Probably because he knows he can get away with it – as he quite apparently has. Out watchword here is "integrity."
It's totally different! The N word is derogatory and extremely offensive, unless of course, it is being used by a black person. If Vince Vaughn, or his character were gay, would this be OK?
Actually he is making an @$$ of himself by saying it, which is why it is left in. Still pretty stupid.
Mel Brooks did it in Blazing Saddles back in the 70's. I know more than a few black folks who found that movie funny.
"Hopefully in the future, Universal and Ron Howard will recognize the power of their words...”
Actually, what they recognize is the power that you want OVER their words, and they are doing the right thing. Censorship is evil, especially when it hides in the guise of political correctness. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Simple.
gay is just a word-it has no power...unless someone chooses to give it power and alot of you do!
This discussion is gay!
complaining about the use of the word "gay" is gay.
I second that!
Maybe electric cars are gay. What's wrong with that?
best line in a movie:
Hey, why am I Mr. Pink?
Because you're a f****t.
Hollywood movies should only have good characters and never bad ones.
sure like andy cooper knows what sensitive and hareful words are
Electric cars are gay....after all, they only get turned on after sticking a plug in their rear end.
Everyone should go out and rent Blazing Saddles. Or better yet – send a copy to GLAAD. It is a MOVIE! What would they say about the part with Slim Pickens says about Kansas City folks. Jeez
@Lisa
It's because we ARE 'normal', we're THE STATISTICAL NORM! It's how s*xuality and life and nature are meant to be in the first place, or else it would have ceased to exist LONG ago!
Awesome, We got the F word, the N word, and now the dreaded G word
I'm glad that Ron Howard decided to keep that gay joke in the movie. I would not have seen it if it was deleted, but now I will see it! I'm sick and tired of sissy overly sensitive people over reacting for every little word. You know's gay? Anderson Cooper, his show is GAY!
Gays and lesbians do not own the word "gay". It has different meanings. When teenagers refer to something as "gay" they just mean it's "lame". There was an excellent episode of South Park that covered this same topic, however they used the word "fa&" to mean that something is lame. In the case of that episode it was loud Harley riders. We as a community provide the meaning of words. And the meanings are ever changing.
Completely agree they DO NOT own that word!!!....as a matter of fact, in reality, doesn't it mean "carefree, bright, happy" These PC People need to get over themselves!! NOT EVERYTHING OR EVERYONE IS ABOUT YOU, GAY PEOPLE! If you think about it, it's really kind of conceited of them to even think people minds go right to "gay people" when they here the word "gay".
...and so are people who applaud censorship.
The word gay meant happy when I was a child. I am OFFENDED that a group of people "hi-jacked" a great word and use it for themselves. that goes for the rainbow too!! The rainbow should belong to little children the Care Bears!!
Come on, you know you can't disagree with anyone with a Sodom and Gomorrah lifestyle. To disagree = hate unless the person you are disagreeing with is Christian, then it's called being open minded
Open that big 'ol can of Common Sense, Cindy! Thank You!!!
Three cheers for Ron howard for not changing a line in his film just to avoid offending a people group. GLAAD has gone too far in their PC pressuring on this one. Free speech is okay with them as long as it supports their cause but once they feel it steps on their toes they believe in censorship. Seems pretty hypocritical to me.
The silencing of opinions is more dangerous and offensive than anything that may be said. You do not have the right to not be offended.
Jarrett Barrios needs to shut up and quit shoving it in everyone's face. We're tired of it!
John said
"EVERYONE PLEASE BOYCOTT THIS SHOW!!!!"
Why John, are you GAY?
Does it offend you when someone calls you what you actuslly are?
Than I guess you do not like yourself too much!
Does it bother you that RON HOWARD is 100% right about this?
Does it bother you that the TRUTH is that Mr. Howard is 100% corect to stand up to this Garbage?
If the answer is YES to those questions than you have put YOUR BEING "GAY" above everyone elses rights to free speech and freeedom of expression!
You have a right to be "GAY" but NEVER AT ANYONE ELSES EXPENSE.
Seriuosly, this issue will do more damage to GAYS the more they complain about it,
BEING GAY DOES NOT COME BEFORE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION OR THE RIGHT NOT TO BE CENSORED!
WAKE UP!
Gays and muslims should be outlawed.
You're an idiot
I believe the term "gay", as currently used by young people, is intended to be a synonym for stupid. At least that is what I have heard from my daughter.
Movies reflect reality, and in today's reality, people use gay in the pejorative sense. I'm not defending it, but it is common.
Dude its a word. Get over yourself. All you gays think that your gonna be the next lady gaga. Sorry but america will never be a gay nation. Have u ever stopped to think that while the word "gay" might offend you, your chosen lifestyle offends me and a whole host of people in this country. Call me intolerant call me a big bad gay basher but your lifestyle makes me throw up in my mouth but that doesn't seem to matter to you huh? Get over it just like your forcing all of us to do. If u don't like what I have to say then email me scott.moen@hotmail.com
Really, gays? when you whine about stuff like this, it just makes you easier to make fun of. I'm Italian and I don't get offended at how we are portrayed in Mario Bros. Just because I'm Italian doesn't mean I can automatically jump to dizzying heights or ride dinosaurs. Ridiculous!!!
Nicely said, D@go. There, how's it feel?
GASP!! I'm offended!
We can utter what we want
If you're offended, oh, I'm sorry – but maybe you needed to be offended. So, here's your apology – and one more thing: #$@% you. – M. Muir
Boohoo....He made a JOKE! Go stomp your feet somewhere else!
This is so stupid!!
Mr. Howard explicity said it the Character inthe movie who has issue with saying the WORN THING and getting himself into trouble. This is an example of that.
Does anyone remember the old Christian Bale movie called "Equilibrium"?? That movie everyone take a medicine to block emotions so no one is ever offended or hostile or even really happy.. Is this the society we want? We can't please everyone all of the time. So please people, lighten up and realize that the movie was meant to show a man who makes bad choices. If we can't show those bad choices then how is the audience to know that he has made them?
all this time on this issue is really so straight – now do you get it?
No we don't.. cause that doesn't make any sense...
Straight means does not waver.. like a straight line..
Gay.. can mean happy.. so what if I said that is gay and I mean that it is happy? Would you still take offense? No matter the context of the use, gay does not equal normal cause happy is a state of not normal.. get it??
I understand WHY you are upset, but look at the context of the story of a man who does and says things that get him in trouble.. in that context, it is exceptable.. it is the same as the commercials on TV trying to get people to stop using the term.. same thing.. same lesson for the audience.. youls hould be thanking Mr. Howard for the free advertsing!
I'm going. Ron Howard makes some great films. Since when are movies politically correct anyway. Any movie can offend someone in some way. No one should take themselves to seriously when they pay to see entertainment. It's a movie, it's not real.
Good for you Ron Howard. I'm sick of people saying that you can't say something because you may offend a particular group. What if he'd said something about religion, be it Mormom, Catholic, Protestant or Muslim? How about if there was a crack against Mexicans, Whites, Blacks or Asians? Would you still be offended? I'm sure some of you would. Saying an electric car is gay is not a big deal. If you're offended by that please don't ever watch Blazing Saddles by Mel Brooks because he made fun of everybody in that film and if you're that sensitive you'll gouge out your eyes and jump off a bridge to relieve your hurt feelings.
when did entertainment become an issue for the world. i have seen and heard way worse in foreign films. i understand the world doesnt have anything else to talk about. but how many people benefit from this? whether the joke is in there or not. im sure if ron donnated monetarily from the movie's earnings to GLAAD that would solve everything right?
Can you imagine Mel Brooks trying to make Blazing Saddles today?
Or, how would Monty Python be Monty Python?
Way to go Ron......everybody's gotten to sensitive about every friggin issue........oh oh I said friggin, did that offend anyone? lol
Good Lord, this PC crap is getting out of hand! Next thing we'll be cutting "GD Mother F's" out of movies cause a) the Christians think the GD is offensive and b) the guys f'ing their friends Mothers will also! What about a movie that deals with the death of a gay person and has all sorts of references and bullying leading up to that death...that's okay? cause it's supposed to teach us not to use the slur? Seriously folks!!!
Um, "GD" IS offensive. But the general public tramples over it, anyway.
This article is gay.
Has Anderson Cooper came out yet or his he still in the closet? And, why would anyone care what he thought? It's a movie people, stop acting so gay.
Come on people! it's not like ron howard intended to take a stab at gays. we hear people say, "that's gay" all the time to describe things! stop being insecure and get over yourselves! if you don't like it, don't watch it! it's that simple...stop making it something bigger than what it is!
Amazing how incredibley DUMB America is.
Gays wanted equal rights, Gaysed want to get married, gaysed want to have children, Gays wanted to be treated equally...FINE, THEY GOT THAT...AND NOW....RATHER THAN EXCEPT THAT YOU ARE GAY AND THAT THIS IS WHAT THE WORD IS TO DESCRIBE IT....you're all going to complin that it is a human rights violation to call you what you are?????????????????????????????????
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY...IF YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE WORD, MAYBE YOU NEVER SHOUL,D HAVE DECIDED THAT YOU WERE GAY TO BEGIN TO WITH.
THIS IS THE WORD...IT'S IN THE FRIKIIN DICTIONARY, BECAUSE GAYS WANTED AS MUCH. NOW IT IS, NOW YOU ARE AS EQUAL AS THE REST OF US TO FEEL INSULTED OR SLIGHTED WHEN SOMEONE NAILS IT RIGHT ON THE HEAD OF NAIL AND CALLS US WHAT WE ACTUALY ARE...
Seriously, Gays talk a lot about responsibility and fairness but this is taking it way to far...you are what you are, and if you aren't compfortable with it, SHUT UP UNTIL YOU ARE...cause the problem is noone elses but your own!!!
Me thinks thou protests too much.
RIGHT ON MAN ILIKE THAT
You crybabies are so gay, I bet you think this movie is about you, don't you?
This world would be a better place if we learned how to laugh at ourselves FIRST and then at others later. I am an old straight white guy with no hair and a pot belly, yes, lots of room for you to say something offensive right? Say it, and I will laugh right along with the joke. After all, it is a joke. The only people who take offense at this are people with self esteem or other problems. Don't you have more to worry about than somebody recognizing you for what you really are? Blacks are black, gays are gays, stupid white guys are stupid white guys – now let's have a beer, okay?
Awesome post, Parker!
It is time for orginazations to stop the strong arm censorship tactics. Wake up america I do not agree with calling anyone names but that does not justify censorship. These groups do not realize that they will hurt their own rights for free speech in the long run...
good for you Ron Howard
Being PC is soooooo gay!
my gosh folks, get over yourselves...have we lost our ability to laugh at ourselves? besides, it is true, most environmentally friendly cars are driven by gays...
EVERYONE PLEASE BOYCOTT THIS SHOW!!!!
ITS A JOKE IN A MOVIE !!! LOL JEEZ LOUIZE
I'm glad Ron didn't give in just to be PC. It's just a movie, so if that term offends you, you don't have to see it or recommend it. If people like Ron Howard didn't stand their ground, then eventually all movie / tv scripts would have to run by & sanitized by gays, muslims, indians, latinos, african-americans, etc. Where will it stop?
Who gave Nambla I mean Glaad a voice!?!?!?!
How are you so familiar with NAMBLA?
I support GLAAD. They help make an intolerant society a little less intolerant every day.
Here, they are being complete and total idiots. Anyone crusading against the first amendment deserves scorn and ridicule. This unforgivable attack on American freedom leaves a big, brown @rap stain on their laudable efforts. Good job, morons.
Following what God says is NOT intolerant. I'll leave you & your kind to believe otherwise. In the end, we'll see see what God has to say about EVERYBODY and EVERYTHING.
Child – pretty sure being so judgmental is considered a sin also – you lose, you hypocrite.
your gay
Stop being gay!
It's you're not your.
His gay what?
Not a big deal so let's not make it one. It's a movie and no reason for censorship. Ron Howard is one of the most talented and respected person in Hollywood. Just because he's straight doesn't make him anti-gay. Stand your ground Ron, with this publicity I'm probably going to make it to this movie and not wait for it to come out on DVD. Ron Howard is a true artist – No to censorship!
First of all ....give it up if you gay you will never have equal rights...dont fool yourself. If you dont want to be treated differently dont tell me your gay...bunch of B.S. The more the "Gay Rights" movement tries to push forward into normal life the more you will be pushd down. Anyone that says they are ok with it is lying...so get used to it and dont ask dont tell ....bunch of whineing Gay babies ....YOU GET NO SPECILAL RIGHTS!
They don't want "special" rights, just the same rights all the so-called "normal" people have. But why am I wasting my time replying to someone who obviously won't even try to comprehend what I'm saying.
I find it ironic that anderson cooper is coming out against using the word... But won't comment on whether or not he is gay. Doesn't he think coming out as an intelligent,well educated, high profile gay man could do wonders for the gay community and break down stereotypes?
How exactly is that any of your business?
Rachel, I'm not entirely sure which rock you've been living under, but Mr. Cooper publicly came out as gay a while ago. Google is your friend.
Instead of saying gay they should say butts*x,or sausage chugger
This is so gay!
We have been blessed with the scientific determination there is a genetic motivator for a person to be a liberal. I have been a long time supporter of the premise gays are born with a genetic reason they are gay. I fully support that with the clear understanding other factors such as environment and an amount of choice also play roles. One can only hope they can find suitable treatments for both of these genetic defects and rid the world of both scourges.
Well written John. IDefects – possibly! Choice – definitely! If we continue to let these "defects" become accepted in mainstream society – we will soon be blessed with a "genetic defect" giving us the opportunity to establish a place in society for the pedophile.
So what. They are worried about 1 line in a movie about electric cars? What about when South Park said the same thing about electric cars? LOL, of course Anderson Cooper of all people will fight this immature battle. Come out of the closet buddy.
I think I'm going to start offending gay people as much as possible so that they will grow some skin and quit acting, well.... gay.
@cheefsfury Uh I disagree I'm definitely seeing this one. Why? because Im sick to death of people all of all "statuses" getting their panties in a bunch over a MFing word. Its lame. Grow the hell up people we aren't all 3rd graders anymore. Whatever happened to sticks and stones? The people upset over this are morons.
This article is so gay. Electric cars, although an environmental necessity, are gay. tell ANderson to just come out already. If you are mad at Ron Howard or Vince Vain then you my friend are gay too!
Dude, you are so out of touch with current events! LOL
Electric cars ARE gay!
DOPEY OPIE !
YOU HAVE A LABLE TOO!
What's a LABLE?
I'm a gay male, and I use the word "gay" all the time when saying something is stupid or lame. I think everyone needs to lighten up a little in this country, and not get so offended all the time. I appreciate the the gay rights movement, but I personally think they need to be reasonable and pick the important battles, not something as trivial as what is said in a comedy movie. Everyone has something that places them in a "minority" group– large nose, color of their skin, where they grew up, economic status, etc.... If we are so hypersensitive that we worry whatever is said will potentially offend one of these groups, then I promise you we will all live boring, miserable lives of self censorship. Oh, and a large part of the problem? The media for actually making this a story and for covering it on national news. This world is a large place, I refuse to believe there isn't more substantial news to report, and I would prefer to read that, but unfortunately it's hard to find a news source that isn't so gay.... see? hope I didn't offend 🙂
I agree, lighten up already. I also think Cathy Griffen is out to hurt people, why isn't she being held accountable?
But I don't want to be associated with driving one of those cars that reminds me of a short bus!
Well said Andrew!
Andrew, your comment was so well said! Bravo! It seems as though we are heading towards censoring dinner-table conversation. Thank you for so eloquently stating what is on the minds of many people.
Thank you, Andrew! I'm 43 – I remember we used "gay" saying that something was dumb, stupid, lame as well... I can't believe I now have to watch everything I say anymore so I don't offend the wrong person that might just happen to walk by and overhear. I haven't said "that's gay" for quite some time – it just wasn't part of the vocabulary any longer and there were much more fun adjectives coming around from our inventive co-horts!!
I think I'll test this out (after work of course!) and see what happens at the ol' watering hole over a beer. Oh, that won't work – you should hear my BF and his friends – they are in their late 40's and above. ...guess I need to go to some lame-a$$ fern bar to get a rise out of anyone. 🙂 Cheers!!
I applaude Ron Howard. Freedmon of speech... EVER HEARD OF IT AMERICAN PEOPLE? Just wondering... and as some (or most) of you are all FOR taking that freedom away... what's next? YOUR GUNS? Let them take away one freedom... it's a lot easier to take away the rest... so... BE VERY VERY CAREFUL WHAT YOU WISH FOR!
good grief you're stupid –
That f@g should remove the gay line, come on now!!
Ron Howard would never go out of his way to hurt anyone. Let him be and go see the movie. He's a great director and has proven it many times over. Who can resist that little freckle faced kid anyway? Oh dear.....did I say something wrong? Will freckle faced kids or their parents be offended?
No - only GAY freckle faced kids.
If Archie Bunker had been censored that show would have crashed and burned. We need to hear the idiots sometimes
to balance out the sane. But I can see the point. During the election season it seems all we do hear is idiots.
It's amazing; God's name can be used as a swear word on prime-time tv regardless of who or how many it offends, but the word "GAY" can't be uttered. Wake up, people. Please, before it's too late; wake up...
What do I keep telling people about using LOGIC on this board?! LOL Haven't you all figured out that logic confuses the masses?!
Child, I am offended by that slander 🙂
Get over it! If you don't like it don't go to the movie! Look at the language on TV. If you want to change something change that. I have to be very careful in what I let my children watch.
I'd say this entire thing is stupid...but I don't want to offend idiots.
clip your fairy wings and live with it!!!!
Gay means effete.
Gay
It is a shame that the public has become so PC that they cannot conceive of a character in a movie not being supportive of the gay community. We have in real life people who are against gays. We have people who are biased and bigots and who are just plain mean. Will films and film clips now be required to have a disclaimer that states the characters in this movie do not represent the political or social views of the director, producers, actors, etc? Get real people. Film can be many things including provocative. It can push boundaries, push us to the brink and beyond where we care comfortable. Let characters in film be flawed, be bad, be politically in-correct. If you want a feel good movie about being gay, go for it, make it. All movies do not have to be politically correct to be good and satisfying to watch.
WAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!! People need to get over themselves! Quit whining like a bunch of brats and just don't go see the dang movie. You have the right to come on this blog and whine about how offended you are, he has the right to put a joke in a movie. I'm thinking there are MUCH better things to complain about nowadays. Sheesh, get a life.
Hey Ron how about Ronny Valentine saying "Everybody kick a Ginger" maybe then you can understand why the gay line should not be in your movie that I promise not to pay to see.
@Kaithy-
I agree. People should take responsibility for their words and actions–regarding the consequences they bring. Don't try to pretend they don't matter or have an impact. When people start acting decent things will get better in this world.
@Tim in SF-How SAD! You are an ignorant person. There is no excuse to bully people, for comedy's sake or any other reason. It is NOT funny and is very harmful not only to gay people, but to our society as a whole. I am disappointed in Ron Howard for taking this stance. Loser!!!!
Good for Ron Howard. Stick to your guns. What's the big deal? What was Vince's line? 'That's so gay' I can't imagine how many people have said that in their lifetime. Get over it you boy lovers.
If I'm reading the story correctly, having Vince Vaughn observe "electric cars are gay" establishes his character as being at least partly a macho jerk, which other macho jerks, many of whom buy movie tickets, will enjoy. If Hollywood formula is followed, he will start to grow out of it by the end.
Three cheers for Ron Howard!
I'm sick and tired of reading all the hate speach from the hetrophobic bigots in California.
** Applauding ** Amen!
This article and the argument is gay!
This arguement is so gay! No censorship!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think if the joke had been about other groups then it would be a non-issue. I'm glad Ron Howard is taking a stand against the political correctness, hypersensitivity insanity that has become American culture.
So if you used the "N" word instead of "gay", how do you think that would have gone over?
Exactly! If they used the N word there would be an uproar. Maybe if gay people were actually treated equally in this country they could enjoy a self-deprecating joke like everyone else. As it stands they aren't treated equally in this country, so they DO have to fight every time someone singles them out by using the word gay as a pejorative. Every step counts. Besides, how is calling an electric car gay a joke? It's not. It just singles out gay people as a negative.
@Dan Halen...
If the Charcter were a black man talking to his friends it WOULD be a NON issue... simply because it is deemed acceptable for other black people to call them selves by the N-word..
This Character is a man who gets himself introuble for his mouth! BIG DUH here people..
N-word in a comedy? Ever see Blazing Saddles?
right on ron
Way to go Ron! People.....grow a skin. Is this why "gay" is such a big issue????? Skin too thin? Get made fun of (and laugh along with) every other person, group, category in the world. Nice job, nice backbone
you are an idiot.
@skewstr8peeps
yr a moron. You think calling someone straight and a breeder (the height of normality) is going to turn the tables, you've totally lost it! If it weren't for 'breeders' you wouldn't be here enjoying yr abnormal and wretched life!
Ummm I think the point was that free speech works both ways. If it's okay to say "that's so gay", then it's okay to say "that's so straight". Why be offended so easily?
talk about morons.....abnormal huh? as far as i know every single gay person i know has been bred from straight people. youre abnormal for thinking your puny little sausage brain has the ability to analyse anything correctly. god, you people make me vomit youre so stupid and pinheaded!!!!!
It is as though we aren't living unless we are offended or feeling disrespected. "Look at me! I'm offended!"... and then the party begins. To wit: this article!
Too senstive, you all need to remember that being senstive is what causes teh problem it shows weakness. I don't like fat jokes as an overweight person I have come to believe that if I do not put up a stink about them then people don't tell them. people need to stop giving so much to what is meant as a joke an not as a cut.
Oh for crying out load!! Enough is F***ING enough!!! Get a life will you?!?!?! IT'S A JOKE!!!!!!
what the hell ever happened to freedom of speech. is this what political correctness has brought us to???
Why yes troy this is exactly what PC has brought us to.
Freedom of speech of speech cuts both ways. You can support the use of the word gay – others can call you out on it. See how that works? PC hasn't brought this country to where it is... people have done that.
It's just a movie, it's not real.
We have been blessed with the determination that there is a genetic motivator for a person to be a liberal. I have been a long time supporter of the premise gays are born with a genetic reason they are gay. I fully support that with the clear understanding other factors such as environment and an amount of choice also play roles. One can only hope they can find suitable treatments for both of these genetic defects.
Get this page printed out so later on you can show yourself and your grandkids (one of whom may be gay) what an idiot you were,(are).
I don't believe in censorship either. It is seriously sad when people are so sensitive that they find one line in a film to be the "anti Christ" of quotes. If groups like GLAAD find this too "offensive" then please practice what you preach and tell all gays in this country to do nothing in public that may "contribute to the problem". This means anything that supports the stereotypes, anything that maybe offensive, anything that maybe cause someone to privately think "that is awful". Once that is done publicly then maybe you will have a leg to stand on.
I heard that Floyd the Barber and Barney Fife were an actual Married Gay Couple! Does Opie know this?
You go Richie! It's your nickel, say what you want...Frank Capra would want you to and so would Preston Sturges!
precisely. what would fonzie say.....
Fonzie would say, "gaaaaayyyyyyyyyyy"
Good for Ron Howard. I'm tired of the PC police. The only way NOT to offend anyone is if the entire population walks around and does not talk at all. Get a life people. Hiding from it is not how to handle it. Remember when gay was a happy word?
What about all the crap they say about Muslims in the news?
Kill em all. Let em go back to their own country.
Greg, hat country are Muslims from? You see, the term Muslim refers to someone who follows the faith Islam. Muslims come from all over the world. Your comment is foolish and most importantly entirely ignorant.
Censorship is gay
Really, really gay! This is ridiculous, it's like the PC world is becoming big brother. If you're offended – don't go. Is that so hard?
Smell the coffee. That's freedom. If you want equal rights, that comes with the territory. Your mad when people don't speak about being Gay in public or have represntation of gay people in every possible form of media, club, and religion. Now your offended! You can't have it both ways. If you don't like it, turn the other cheek!
I'm offended at your use of "your" when you meant "you're".
you used "your" and "you're" as pejoratives
Equal Rights? Here is how equal rights were made years ago. Actual footage from those sessions. This is your history lesson...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFBOQzSk14c
The fact that this is an issue at all is gay
Yes ! !!! 100%...
agreed
Really who cares, people says all kinds of things in films. Looks like a publicity stunt for some media buzz to me ! Nice one Ron !
Mr. Howard, you've lost me as a fan, and paying customer. There are better ways to make movies than this.
That's just about the gayest thing I've ever heard...
So if every gay person avoids the movie...and every straight person attends the movie...I guess he's got a big winner (settle down...I didn't say weiner) on his hands!
Not only are electric cars gay, but so are those who drive them.
Enough said.
Get a life Dude. I'm sure Ron is just devistated that you won't go see his movies.
I don't see what all the fuss is about. I say let him have the joke in the movie. I would rather see people get all up in arms over the way gays are portrayed on TV and movies. Not all gay men are overly feminine, wear tight clothes, etc.
I think the real point here is in something you said. "I say let him have his joke"....the point is that we don't and shouldn't have the option of letting him have it or not have it. We vote with our spending money on the movie ticket. If someone is offended, don't see it. It's simple.
As Forrest Gump would say... Stupid is as Stupid does, and in this case... CNN is stupid for deliberately trying to stir the pot of resentment overruling free speech.
It's a movie.
Wow, Ron Howard, that's so straight. Stupid breeder. See, I'm sensitive AND uncensored too!
sensitive, uncensored and not funny at all. And by the way, if it weren't for your "stupid" breeder mother and father, you wouldn't be here. How's that for irony?
lol, you are stupid... So breeder is opposite to gay now... LOL... totally made my day on this one... So next time I will go out with my girl, I will say "lets go and have a... a what? Breeding session?
Very good- now go adopt some "breeder's" baby and get over your flaming self.
guys, methinks he was being sarcastic....
I wouldn't even give him credit as a "breeder". Who do you know who would sleep with that? Hey, I'm liking this free speech thing! It cuts both ways!
He used breeder as a pejorative. Lets ban him.
Honestly, it desnt bother me much because there are things on tv and in the media that we see everyday that are extremely deragatory to all races, groups and religions. In our everyday speech we use it. I believe if you dont like it, dont watch it. But dont punish people who have the same freedom of speech rights that we do. PERIOD. dont like it dont watch it.
I totally agree!!! I think Vince Vaughan is hilarious & Ron Howard is a GREAT director!!! I will watch the movie b/c I look 4ward 2 laughing. If every1 looked out 4 the nxt person,there wouldn't b ne comedy 2 watch!!!
EVERYONE CALM DOWN! LOL Listen, in America, we make fun of religion, people, places, things, that's just the way it is. You really want to get a group all fired up you have to do one of two things. 1.) Make any statement that the "gays" will get upset over. or 2.) Make any statement that will offend the Muslims. The two worst things you can possibly do in America! I'm sick of the whiners and complainers, I'm sick of everyone openly making fun of Christians but, we can't draw a cartoon of Mooohamed.
Everyone needs to grow a backbone and get over it. If you are gay, then be gay but, I don't have to like it, agree with it, or censor myself so I don't hurt your feelings. I don't care what you say or think of me, so I don't care what I say or think of you. Thanks
Agree
Grow up america, boo hoo he says gay. He could have meant gay as in electric cars bring happiness. But everyone wants to turn it into this whole PC issue words on have meaning if you let them
Get over it people-we have become *ussies. Everyone is too sensitive! It's a movie!
Even movies have to be PC now...
ITS A MOVIE
i guess we need to start editing out and offensive language from the Sopranos
Agreed. . . .IT'S A MOVIE! IT'S PRETEND!
Good Grief. What's next? Book Burning? Don't scoff & think I'm exagerating.
Censorship begins with little things like scenes/lines in a movie or tv show or skit.
It's time some people got over themselves, lightened up & get a SENSE OF HUMOR!!!
People using deragatory words to get their point across is tired. I will say the Ron Howard is a great director, but will not pay money for this one..
it's your right to disagree, and you're one less person i'll have to step around, at the movies, on my way to get more popcorn.
Golly gee, maybe if you don't see this movie, then one day, we will all live in peace and harmony and consume pixiedust and cotton candy. Sounds awesome. Here in the real world, comedy sucks if it you let the most thin-skinned person in the room dictate what can be said.
Cry me a river build a bridge and get over it.
His use of the word 'gay' is to show the sensitivities and the point of view of the character. There are crude characters in the world who use it synonymously with derogatory terms. It doesn't make it right – but the moment we don't allow for characterization in storytelling is the moment that storytelling becomes bland, unrealistic, and 'safe'.
If Ron Howard was in some way preaching/teaching that this was a proper use of the word, I would understand the push back. But Ron Howard is a good man and I think we can trust that he is in no way condoning this as proper behavior.
this is ridiculous! our nation is falling b/c we waste time on stupid petty crap like this! people need to grow up! movies use the word retarded all the time, but you don't see a big debate over that!
Oh put on your big girl panties. I am so tired of people these days. Everyone gets a trophy, my kids get to act like monsters because they're my kids, its the presidents fault, its the banks fault, wah wah wah. Enough with this nonsense. I'm embarassed to be a part of this generation. If you're offended by a line in a movie, don't go see it, or grow thicker skin and deal with it. I'm offended by the stupid pile of mush the american people have become.. but you know what? I deal with it on a daily basis and accept it as part of life. I choose not to deal with people that have a larger shoe size than IQ. By finally saying something, I have grouped myself in with you droolers... but hey, it was really starting to get to me. Take some responsibility for yourself, live your life, shut your mouth and most importantly GET OVER YOURSELVES. Good Day.
This isn't about being thin skinned. It's about the use of derogatory language regarding a group that is NOT treated equally and is currently fighting for equality. Once they have equality, the jokes are acceptable. Until then, the use of "gay" as a negative supports the mentality that the language is OK to use in common speech. There are plenty of other ways to get the point across that the character lacks social graces and to avoid furthering the hurt this group of people has to endure while fighting for equality.
Kelbell: There was a big issue made over a Ben Stiller flick because he said retarded. LMAO, people are out of control.
you're so gay.
so I guess the movie "Colored Women" should be banned. I know a lot of folks who get real offended when someone calles them "colored" instead of whatever is politically correct at the moment. Someone had best tell Whoopie.
Man you people ARE sensitive. Good grief. With all the hate filled music out there and all the crap on TV, this is the biggest issue we have to deal with?
If Ron Howard is using the word "gay" to get a point across, you've obviously missed that point.
He is, as stated in the article, most definitely NOT trying to make a point. The line is used to establish a fictional character in a fictional story. Period. Get over yourself.
I'm just glad they changed the line from, "electric cars are for pole smokers"!
Ok, so I'm going to start using the "N" word again. You all shut up about it and we'll get along just fine.
So they originally were going to say the line, "Electric Cars are so phat." But all the sound technicians got all mad about it. So they changed it to the line, "Electric cars are so ginger." But of course the red heads all said that doesn't make sense because everyone knows gingers melt in the sun. So they changed it to, "Electric Cars are so black." and the guy working the boom mic was like, "Ain't no black people buying electric cars." And the hair guy goes, "Now if it were, Electric Slide is so black." then yeah it would be accurate. And everyone pretty much agreed on that fact. So, then they changed it to, "Electric cars are so blonde." but the 85 blondes in this particular scene were all like, "Wait how do you drive them if they have to be plugged in to run?" So we all came to conclusion that blondes probably couldn't figure out how to work one. So finally, one of the costume guys, goes well how about, "Electric cars are so gay?" And everyone goes "why?" And he says, "Because electric cars blow." And all the gay guys working on the set, helping as production assistants, and helping as extras all agreed that they did in fact blow. And it was settled.
@cheefsfury you s right!!!
I'm going now just to back ron.
Our son is gay. He regularly says "that's so gay"
I'm of all Irish heritage I love jokes that begin "Two Irish guys are sitting in a bar...."
All the politically correct idiots should get over it.... try to relocate your sense of humor.
IT DOESNT MATTER NO ONE WILL WATCH IT
If a character in a movie can't say "gay", then they can't say any other derogatory term, so films that highlight the issues around slavery or women's rights or anything else will have to edit history to conform with today's PC termonology.
oh, any hey, if we can finally ban the word "gay" can we start next on "red-headed step-child"???!!! i'm totally offended by that!!!!
@Jenny; there are comedys that poke fun at Jews, Christians, Catholics, etc.
I do not see anyone having a problem with this, so why should the gay comment be such an issue???
Archie Bunker did more to foster change with his racist, biggoted comments than almost any other entertainment-based character. Saying "wrong" things can help people make right choices.
cheers, jenny, get a grip. no matter how much it makes you have a hissy, it is censorship, which is TOTALLY GAY! maybe if "gay" meant having a sense of humor it wouldn't be a bad thing. get over yourself, girls.
Jenny, Electric cars got nothing on you 🙂
That boy Opie shore has more sense than all them Hollywood gays, including Anderson Cooper. Andy must be proud!
It is a writer's prerogative to construct true characters who speak and act true to that character. Imagine if Steinbeck was censored...
Maybe the electric car was just happy? –adjective
1.
having or showing a merry, lively mood: gay spirits; gay music.
2.
bright or showy: gay colors; gay ornaments.
3.
given to or abounding in social or other pleasures: a gay social season.
Origin:
1275–1325; 1950–55 for def. 5; ME gai < OF < Gmc; cf. OHG gāhi fast, sudden
—Related forms
gayness, noun
non·gay, adjective
quasi-gay, adjective
—Synonyms
1. gleeful, jovial, glad, joyous, happy, cheerful, sprightly, blithe, airy, light-hearted; vivacious, frolicsome, sportive, hilarious. Gay, jolly, joyful, merry describe a happy or light-hearted mood. Gay suggests a lightness of heart or liveliness of mood that is openly manifested: when hearts were young and gay. Jolly indicates a good-humored, natural, expansive gaiety of mood or disposition: a jolly crowd at a party. Joyful suggests gladness, happiness, rejoicing: joyful over the good news. Merry is often interchangeable with gay : a merry disposition; a merry party; it suggests, even more than the latter, convivial animated enjoyment. 2. brilliant.
Your wrong. It is true that no one would have watched it, but now that GLAAD has made a big deal about it and tried to get it changed lots will watch it. I think it's called the "Streisand Effect", complaining and trying censor something like this just draws attention to it. GLAAD should have kept quiet or just said "it makes the character sound like a loudmouthed jerk, which is pretty much what the character is supposed to be anyway.
Jenny you are very wrong it is all about censorship.Politicl correctness or in Jenny speak sensitivity is undermining our basic right to free speech. And yes free speech means being offensive to some. But, who is more preducied the intollerent person making remarks or the intollerant person decrying the comments. Until people learn to take comments both in context and recognizing the source we are all going to hate eachother. By the way have you every thought that the group with the least rights to speak is the majority? Fancy that.
If it has come to the point that every person has to carefully choose each word they utter for fear of "offending" someone, then we might as well live in China. For Pete sake! We are supposed to be grown-ups. Put on your big boy/girl pants and get over yourselves!
@ Mark: Because gay people exist, and gods do not. That's why.
Yeah, right. No one will watch a movie directed by one of the most famous directors in the world. Get real.
I always knew CNN was in favor of Gays and lesbians, Now I know, This is their favorite hangout,
Good for Ron,
@Mark "Actors/Actresses use God's name in vain all the time and no one gets up in arms about that. Why should this be any different."
– While I agree with Ron Howard's decision to keep this line in the film (only because it's the point of view of a flawed character and not part of an anti gay sentiment pushed by the film makers... and also because it has created this very discussion) your argument is flawed. People don't kill themselves when they hear God's name used in vain.
Whatever... I am sick to death of the PC police telling us what we can and cannot say – it is so gay.
People are too sensitive – get over it.
Not true! I will watch it!
Would this have even been newsworthy if this was a Quentin Tarantino film? I think not. So why does Ron Howard get questioned for it?
The fact that gay people are so sensitive that this bothers them is so friggin' gay. People have been using the term gay long before the phrase meant what it does today.
Gay people have already all but destroyed the image of the rainbow, don't take away our right to say gay too.
Look when you do anything that is looked at beyond the normal...you have to be prepared for the backlash. Crisis my butt. If you do not have the mental capacity to withstand what comes with your actions – meaning if you cannot keep from killing yourself...Don't expect the entire world to be sensitive to your needs or wants...it does not work that way.
Censorship is bad in all forms. By tiptoeing around a problem, we actually accentuate that problem. Allowing jokes at others' expense is one method used to help people get over the problem, as much as it might be divisive. IMO, leave it in.
The time and energy spent writing this article and the ensuing needless arguments are gay.
Three cheers for Ron Howard, The only rights gays have is to be gay. Anything else would be preferential treatment.
It is about censorship. What next? I'm Catholic so how about watching what we say about Catholics? No priest jokes or jokes about our services. I am also French so how about the French jokes? I am also fat, so how about all the fat jokes that have been in movies? I am also bald. I am also short. I have much to be offended by, if I wanted to be victimized. Being fat, bald and Catholic is a choice. I can leave the Catholic Church, go on a diet and buy hair. I can have a blood transfusion and maybe get rid of some of the French. Maybe drink a lot of German beer. I have made a decision. I am leaving the Catholic Church, going on a diet, buying hair and drinking a lot of German beer. That sounds like fun. Then I won't have to be offended. Thanks to GLAAD and Anderson. Damn, I'm still short, but having fun.
This story is gay.
I mean seriously people, stop all this political correctness bs. Sticks and stone, remember? Its like the whole "no losers" in kids sports these days... geez. Poor kids will grow up and experience their first "loss" in the real world and won't know how to deal with it after being sheltered through childhood. Life isn't always nice, you don't always win and people don't always say what you want to hear. Deal with it, learn to laugh and smile. If it bothers you sooooo much, don't go see the movie. Freedom of speech, freedom of expression and freedom of choice. Stop trying to make the rest of us in America live to your ideals!
they kill themselves not because of what people say, its because they dont know how to deal with their own selfs.
I've always liked Ron Howard, and now I respect him even more. Freedom of expression, and to hell with the politically correct thought police. Bravo!
There are several things that I do not understand here. Gays refer to themselves and each other as "Gays" and when they come out of the closet, presumably they tell people that they are "gay." Then there's the whole "gay pride" kick. Yet when someone refers to an inanimate object as being "gay" then you insist that the very term you use to describe yourselves is derogatory.
The "G-word," unlike the "N-word," has many other meanings that applied well before the word eventually was applied toward those attracted to their gender. In that regard, the "G-word" is much like the "F-word" as it's one of the few words that can be used interchangeably as a noun, verb, adjective, adverb, etc. The "G-word" then, is very much like those that are gay because they have to adapt to their surroundings to fit in, just as everyone else does.
One more point is that when people use the term "Retarded" to describe something other than a person born with a mental disability, nobody really intends to hurt or offend "retarded" people. In fact, I would say that only the most soul-less heathens of society would purposely offend those born that way. The same can be said with the use of the "G-word" in this movie line. Was it INTENDED to be derogatory toward gays? No. It's meant to be derogatory toward the Electric Car as the word "Gay" has evolved also to include the meaning of "stupid or ridiculous."
If you doubt whether or not the word "Gay" has developed so many meanings, I recommend listening to the opening jingle to "The Flintstones" where they joyously sing, "Have a Yabba-Dabba-Doo time. A Dabba-Doo time. We'll have a gay old time!" So you see? "Gay" also means "Yabba-Dabba-Doo."
You should be happy that Vaughn's character used the word and then go buy an Electric Car, because really the loser with this movie line is the environment.
I'm gay and I really don't see the big deal, it's a joke for crying out loud! People shouldn't get so offended so easily and if you don't like it, don't watch it. That is the benefit of living in a free country.
Ok...whatever. Tough to want to be right....but be so totally wrong.
I'll go to the movie just to hear the line! LOL....we have all become stupidly gay!
@Mark: Maybe it's different cause gays are real.
GLAAD president Jarrett Barrios needs to realize that this is comment made in a movie that falls full well in line with the charcter's personality (an iditot). GLAAD should be promoting his saying it as an excellent example of how only idiots utter such phrases. Instead of whiners, By throwing the "WE are offended" card, GLAAD shoots itself in the foot and does not promote tolerance. Instead, it promotes its own brand of intolerance.
Gay people are just so gay!