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October 20th, 2010
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Parents Television Council finds GQ 'Glee' shoot 'disturbing'The Parents Television Council is disturbed by the GQ photo shoot featuring three of the show's stars. In a statement released on Wednesday, the PTC “denounced the makers of the TV show 'Glee' for a hyper-sexualized GQ photo shoot that will be featured in the November issue.” President of the PTC Tim Winter found it “disturbing that GQ, which is explicitly written for adult men, is sexualizing the actresses who play high school-aged characters on ‘Glee’ in this way,” and thought “[i]t borders on pedophilia.”
Winter went on to say that the same audience that loved “High School Musical” is also enjoying “Glee,” and “are now being treated to seductive, in-your-face poses of the underwear-clad female characters posing in front of school lockers, one of them opting for a full-frontal crotch shot.” By giving the okay for the shoot, “the creators of the program have established their intentions on the show’s direction. And it isn’t good for families.” Fox, the network that airs the hit musical comedy, declined to comment, and GQ's Editor-in-Chief, Jim Nelson, thinks perhaps the PTC just doesn't know the difference between the actors and who they portray on TV. "The Parents Television Council must not be watching much TV these days and should learn to divide reality from fantasy,” Nelson said in a statement. “As often happens in Hollywood, these ‘kids’ are in their twenties. Cory Monteith's almost 30! I think they're old enough to do what they want.”
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Like most whistle blowers, the PTC arouses the ire of the entrenched establishment. But if the establishment seems to be having the upper hand, it’s worth remembering, as Eleanor Roosevelt was fond of saying, that it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
Interesting article! thanks for sharing.
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Open your eyes people!
I don't really care about the PTC. I don't pay attention to them. They whine about some of the things I like, as a matter of fact.
Everyone's missing the real problem here: Why this is a hit show in the first place.
"Glee," like most shows on television, is a horrendously bad show, regardless of what the actors may or may not be wearing. The fact that it's as popular as it is should be the greatest cause of concern.
Because of a desire to help others, I have helped a number of charitable organizations. In recent years, I have gravitated more and more towards helping the Parents Television Council, because of my belief that an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure. The PTC focus is to go upstream to deal with potentially harmful cultural influences, which seems in the long run to make sense.
Having dealt personally with the PTC, I have a few observations:
–They seem to be level-headed. I have not been able to detect hysteria nor extremism.
–Their work is science-based. They rely heavily on studies by university researchers, the American Psychological Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, etc.
–They seem to be getting results. For example, they take credit for the demise of Swing Town.
Like most whistle blowers, the PTC arouses the ire of the entrenched establishment. But if the establishment seems to be having the upper hand, it’s worth remembering, as Eleanor Roosevelt was fond of saying, that it is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness.
1) They are adults.
2) GQ is NOT in ANY WAY a family-oriented magazine.
3) Adults should just stop playing kids in general anyway.
4) Look up the definition of PEDOPHILIA.
5) Glee is NOT a kid's show. It's not on Disney. It's not on NickJr. It's on FOX – home to Family Guy and the Simpsons.
6) The image of the "naughty school girl" is the BIGGEST cliche ever, I'm surprised that it's even offending anyone anymore.
7) In the end, just raise your own kid. Stop letting the media parent them and then try to complain. Don't act like there's no form of technology to block channels and websites.
And if you're KIDS actually read GQ, you SUCK as a parent.
Frank, stop white knighting. The chances that it will get you any lascivious propositions on this blog are practically nonexistent.
Frank and a few who think likewise:
Spot on!
PTC and likewise: ignorant
People who think this about adults making personal choices:
Ignorant!
That is if you can't see the big picture here. How many of you that say these are adults in their 20s and that's how it should be viewed can say you never fell under the influence of marketing and advertising? It usually targets your subconsiusness and presents you with a mental image that projects in your brain and is influncing your desicions and way of thinking. The image that's projecting in those photos isn't adult actreses in their 20s, is it. As for "parents need to watch their kids", well Hello! Of course they do but their job nowadays is much harder then when I was growing up. You almost need to police your kids not just watch them. These kind of images will inevitably find plenty of kids. And plenty of kids will find a way to watch episode or two even if their parents watch what they see on a TV. And those kids will be influenced. They won't think "oh these are actresses in their 20s". They will will try to follow the image that's being projected onto them. You really think that producers who put this show on air say "oh we don't want kids of high school age to see this, we are making this for adult entertainment only". Open your eyes people!
I looked at the Parents Television Council website and according to them the only thing that a family can watch on TV is Extreme Home Makeover. The people who are running that organization need to have there head examined!!! There are plenty of better things out there to complain about. Like stupid councils trying to push their ultra conservative views on others!
Obviously I am not the only one to think this, but this is ridiculous, especially the mention of the audience of "High School Musical". For starters, HSM is shown on the DISNEY channel! Glee is not. In previous episodes, where a character is dancing around half naked to Britany Spears songs or a guy prays to a piece of toast to touch a girls boobs, there was no complaints. People need to stop being so sensitive and realize these photos are being shown in GQ! A magazine targeted towards ADULT MEN! Grow up America. Pedophilia? So every early Spears video was that too I suppose.
That video 'debate' was worthless. 'Straddling the line between family friendly and adult entertainment'? What the hell does that even mean? P0rno pics inbetween the pages of a pop-up book? Those two things don't go together.
GQ's response was half-baked and condenscending, as to be expected.
CNN, you need to get commentators with half a brain on Showbiz Tonight. In fact, I think you need a new staff all around.
I totally agree that Glee is not just a family show. A lot of the issues that arise in this show when I was a child I wouldn't have understood or related to. This photo shoot was meant to relate to all the adults who watch the show. If they only appeared in childrens' themed magazines what adult would actually keep watching this. They would think it was geared just towards kids and possibly stop watching. Not to be overly dramatic with the scenario but they are just reaching out to their different audiences.
i don't know if anyone's said this yet, but one of the recent episodes had santana kissing brittany on brittany's bed, so if they can do that on the show, people shouldn't be surprised about these kinds of photos.
Of course they are old enough to do what they want ... however, the impact of their free will actions may result in (1) the reduction and/or disgust of their viewing audience and/or (2) replacement of these actors by others.
With freedom comes reaction & responsibility. It is not a pass.
Wow, some great points here. I love Glee, however I'm not a parent. I do not agree with the PTC. I don't think Glee is that racy. I think I would let high school kids watch it, because it deals with relevant themes. I wholeheartedly agree with the parents being the main ones in control of their kids. However, I also quite agree with Frank about the Lolita factor. I think Lea should have censored herself from posing in this manner. Just my opinion. p.s. Frank–you're awesome! 🙂 Peace and love...
Thanks, Holly! Peace and love to you, as well.
Yeah know...I thought this show was about music...growing up and embracing the ability to be different and make your own choices.It seemed to be like that..then this fall it changed!!
I am sorry but " if it ain't broke don't fix it"I am once again amazed at the supposed well educated aduts that are making these decisions about what we want to watch.BAD CHOICE KIDS!!!
If this trend continues, as much as I really like the music It may not remain on my DVR record list!
GLEE was an amazing tribute to those who love to sing and are not afraid to be different.It appears that some group in charge now feel that this isn't enough.Too bad.
Most kids I know don't read GQ, so what's the problem here? These are adults who happen to play high schoolers. I see nothing wrong with what they did. I looked at the pictures and thought they were mild compared to some of the stuff on television and the movies!! Good grief!! Besides, have you ever seen how "real" teenagers act??? Maybe the PTC should worry more about that than what these actors did off the "Glee" set!!
Which of these parents of " . . .kids who enjoy watching High School Musical . . ." are letting their kids read GQ? Seems to me that is an issue with the parents. I know my daughter won't be seeing that photo shoot.
yeah, this is not a children's show, there are some fairly deep issues on this show that are addressed. And all the actor's are old enough to do what they want. Remember Britney? She was not in her 20's, and we dealt with it. How about PARENTS start telling their kids the difference between tv and reality. Or like some of you have said, don't buy the freaking magazine for your 15 year old that watches Glee, it's GQ! Get over it
I would like to know why the PTC is more worried about grown ups making their own decisions than why more TV stars than parents are now Role Models for children. Parents should be in charge of what their children watch and read....this includes GQ. I don't personally recall a time my 10 year old picked up that magazine. Get over it PTC.
A few things:
#1- The subjects being photographed are not "kids." They are adults in their twenties, at least.
#2- Do they know who Terry Richardson is? This is TAME compared to some of his other work.
#3- http://felldownarabbithole.tumblr.com This is Dianna's (Quinn Fabray) personal Tumblr account. She addresses this drama tactfully. A worthwhile read, indeed.
"The Parents Television Council must not be watching much TV these days and should learn to divide reality from fantasy,” Nelson said in a statement. “As often happens in Hollywood, these ‘kids’ are in their twenties. Cory Monteith's almost 30! I think they're old enough to do what they want.”
Well .. yeah. THEY can – the characters cannot. If people are getting in trouble for animated characters with Double D's being listed as being only 14, then this should follow under that same category.
why is it that women are the biggest supports of the things that degrade them...
That's the same question I've been asking for years!
The people who watch glee are the same people who watched Disney's High School Musical? Are they kidding? Have they ever seen Glee? This show is not for children. It is very racy.
24-24 and 28 I believe are the ages of the "kids" doing the shoot..GROW UP ..and if parents council doesn't like it..turn the damn channel!
PTC can FOAD
When did Glee ever tout itself as a family show anyway? Just because it portrays high school students doesn't mean you should let your kids watch it! Idiots.
if you find it disturbing, don't buy it. problem solved.
I guess everyone needs to feel important sometimes...but come on. The PTC?? Get out of here!! Was this council formed just to make people feel special??
My thing is if they are in their 20s why would you dress up with HS teen school symbolic wear and pose in front of lockers. Yes your an actress and should have an opportunity to do what you want, but clearly you are an actress on a TV show about teens. I guess the purpose of controversy has been achieved. The ego for success comes at any price. And unfortunately children pay the price as a result of sick individuals who will without doubt see beyond this actress' pose. As for parenting monitoring what their children watch, I too agree, however the media is far more powerful and to turn a blind eye to this very fact, whether you are a parent, an actress, magazine editor, or TV producer is just plain out sad.
Just like it's been said a million times to the flaky moronic Tipper Gore types, "If you don't like what you see, don't look at it!".
I just wonder why does anyone think that children, and young adults all of the sudden became these morons who will do whatever they see in magazines, and on TV. I believe young adults, and even children are capable to make their own judgement, and own decisions in most cases. Allthough can be influenced by the media, can not be controlled by it.
These actors are allowed to have a life outside of Glee you know. Like everyone else is saying, these are adults and not children.
Unliess your child is surfing the web looking for these expliicit photos or flipping through GQ magazine, this is not an issue.
Parents are ultimately responsible for what their children watch. If you don't think the show is appropriate, do not let them watch it and stear them away from such blogs!
Why can't the PTC ever get it straight, if pervs are looking at the supposed "high school age" subjects they're ephebophiles, not pedophiles. Lurn ur grammer rite, PTC.
Idiots wagging their tongues. They need to look up definition of pedophilia. They clearly do not have a clear understanding of the definition. That makes them Idiots of the week.Stay tuned for more idiots.
It's called a "publicity stunt" and everyone of you just fell for it. The more you write on blogs, chitterl-chatter about it, the more their names and the show's name gets out there.
Why is the media all of the sudden giving attention to these fringe extremists. The first time I had heard about this right-wing organization was when they raised a stink about the Katy Perry/Sesame Street non-issue.
Absolutely ridiculous. People in their 20's can do whatever photo shoot they want. I really hope the people on the PTC don't let their 10 year olds read GQ. The show deals with very real themes, including bigotry, bullying, etc. I don't get how people in their 20's doing a shoot is pedophilia.
Both of the WOMEN are 24 years old. I don't care that they are cast as high school girls in some show. They made the choice to do the photo shoot. Get off your high horses and realize that the show had nothing to do with the photo shoot.
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Talk about irony!!! Since the tightwad "Parents Television Council" made their stink about all this, every single television network that has a news program has covered the resulting story, and GUESS WHAT!! They're all showing footage from the photo shoot!!! That's right, PTC, you did it to yourselves. Better tell your kids they can't watch the news LMAO!!
They are all almost 30 YEARS OLD!!!!! I think that they can dress, and be photographed, however they want at this point. They are not really in high school; it is called fiction.
Of course, I see your point as well. How dare women get to wear what they choose and not have all of their decisions dictated to them by the conservative right...THIS IS IRA...I mean, THIS IS SAUDI...wait, THIS IS AMERICA (I think).
These women aren't almost 30 years old. They are both 24. But they are still adults and can make their own decisions.
As a parent, I'd like the to the PTC I have no problem with the show, the GQ spread (their protest only served to let me know it existed and inspired to go buy it, $5 I never would have given to GQ otherwise...as the LOLCATS would say....PROTESTIN-UR–DOIN-IT-RONG). I enjoy watching it with my children. I have no problem with the content.
Therefore, I'd like to suggest your change your mind to Conservative Puritanical Parents Television Council...that way your name reflects the group you actually represent.
If you're a parent, be a productive, responsible and informed parent. Watch the content of shows your kids watch! Ignorance is rampant here. Who cares what other people say is good or bad? Really?! My teens don't watch Glee but that is MY choice to allow or disallow. I watch it for the sheer entertainment value. I am an adult. This is NOT a "family program". Let's not be ignorant again by claiming anything on the GQ magazine is any worse than what's on ANY other magazine cover OR what kids wear at school!! Honestly, if you give a heart about your kids, you wouldn't be having this incredibly ignorant conversation about the GQ shoot. Oh and just one more note about ignorance: If you claim other countries allow illegal substances as being legal, you, my dear should keep your mouth shut or at least google your ignorant thoughts first. HOW ABOUT THIS? Be a parent! It's your job!
Good for PTC. This country is turning to crap due all the liberals doing as they wish. This country is toast. Our national language will go from English to Arabaic or Korean in 10 yrs. The US as we knew it is dead. Snot nosed spoiled wannabee celebrity minded people run this country. when iran or north korea come kick our ass...who is gonna fight them? The situation or snookie? you young people wise up. throwing fits and acting like you have brain isnt going to cut it. go back to school and learn something. what are you guys gonna do? throw your designer sunglasses at the enemy going to work. stop trying to be funny....cuz youre not. others laugh at you, and just shake their heads at what a joke our mainstream soceity has become. thanks whoopi...joy behar and every other liberal who has allowed our country to fall to pieces. we should be afraid for our next generation. poor guys..never had a chance.
You really should pick up a book or a current events article not written by a FOXNEWS personality. If there were to be a takeover, it would be Mandarin. Korea might successfully try to blow us up, but they have neither the means nor the ability to take us over and enforce a linguistic shift. China, on the other hand, already owns giant chunks of our debt. Use your brain...it's that lump three feet above your butt.
Elisa said: "stop trying to be funny....cuz youre not. others laugh at you"
I wonder why others would laugh, if the person is not funny? This is a typical right-wing nonsensical statement.
For the ptc, a lot of people who watch glee are actually in their 30's or 40's, so they need to grow up. And I agree about the actor's. Shoot the original beverely hills 90210 cast only had 2 actual teenagers for cast members. The rest were in the 20's and 30's.
Oh please! I find the Parents Television Council "disturbing". If you don't like what is on the TV or radio turn it off. Parents need to be responsible for what THIER children watch and listen to. Parents need to censor for THIER children, not try and censor what everyone else listens to/watches because they are too lazy to parent correctly.
Once again we have a small group of people thrusting their narrow-minded views upon the American public. Good thing we have them looking out for us, otherwise we wouldn't have a clue as what to think for ourselves. Get real. These are not kids....they are adult actors who portray kids. If you or your children can't tell the difference, well then I can't help you.
You both ROCK then, yes and I bet your I.Q. is very high, as you are wise way beyond your years!
Thank you again. Yes, my mom is a very strong woman. She's my role model. 😀
I don't know about my IQ, lol, but I had to grow up quick. Life comes at you fast!
Frank the fact that your mom is your role model says a lot. Althought i don't agree with most of what you said, I am impressed that you actually have a respect for women at your age. Not that I am any older, but it says a alot about your character. With that being said, let the girls do what they want. they are old enough to make their own decisions.
Thank you very.
And I didn't say anything about stopping them from doing this. It's not they come up with the concepts, anyway. But that doesn't mean I have to agree with it. I'm just noticing a wider trend in the media happening here, is all.
*much
I cant argue with that. Media is taking things a bit to far.
oops missed the spelling error – I am too tired. =)
Lol. No worries.
I mean it too! God Bless you dear man. I was an adolesent in the 80's and with all the (I'll be nice here) creeps one inevitably & unfotunately comes into contact with, men like you are rarer than 'rare earth'. TTL OKAY!
Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm 21 and I'm mostly embarrassed by my generation. I guess my mom raised me as best she could, though.
Be seeing you around. ~
Ummm, the girls are 25+ years old. Who's problem is it if parents are allowing their kids to watch this?
I think GQ has it right, they are actresses who portary teenagers. They are not actually teenagers, most of them are in their late twenties. They are not who they play on tv. They are adults who chose to do a racy spread for an adult magazine and it happened to relate to their adult show. GLEE is not and hasnt been marketed for children. Ps it's not just older men who like the girls, older women like the guys as well. The cast is extremely attractive and therefore people will like to look at them.
Francis, From one ladies perspective, it is grand to see that there is another 'Real Man' in the world besides my husband asleep next to me. YOU deserve a good partner in life, if you do not have one I hope you find one if that is what you want. Nite-nite for moi!
Aww, thank you very much. God bless you and have a nice night.
this is a tv show by the people who gave you nip tuck not for kids and neather is this
On a side note, though.....I do agree with 'R's post.
I really must be missing something because I watched this show once, out of curiosity about the hype, and it was almost agonizing. Very lame show.
Good grief, there are a number of shows that have a "teen" setting. Where was this council when the GOSSIP GIRL characters were clubbing and drinking before they graduated? PTC and parents alike accept the FACT that some of your kids and their peers may be promicuous freaks, and that GQ cover might not phase them. After all, the cast members are GROWN and the magazine is not for your kids to see. But if you spend more time raising your own kids instead relying on media outlets to do so, you might've missed this ordeal altogether
I agree 110%!! The teens out in the world today have been exposed to much worse than this way earlier than their parents want to think. Newsflash parents YOUR KIDS ARE NOT AS INNOCET AS THEY LEAD YOU TO BELIEVE!!!
Frank's a freak.
How exactly am I a 'freak'?
I don't expect you to answer, Ms. Hit And Run Troll.
Why does the link from the homepage say "parents" object when it's actually the dopes at the PTC? Folks in their mid and late twenties are generally considered adults and can do pretty much as they please when it comes to photo shoots. Someone should also tell the PTC that the folks on Grey's Anatomy really aren't doctors and the family on No Ordinary Family is actually ordinary.
Mr Tim Winter has never seen a full frontal crotch shot himself. omg
get a life dirtbags
You go, girls! You show us how your t's and a's are your most valuable talents that define you! Embrace whoring yourself to the fame god and the paps and the media! Smile pretty for the camera while you pose in subservient positions! Let the greed for attention suck all your brains out and set your worth as a member of society back decades and centuries! Good job!
Great post.
I'm not getting into my manifesto here, but this was pretty disturbing. I wouldn't oppose this photo shoot if Cory, Lea and Dianna weren't in character, but keeping them in McKinley High and having us think of them as 16-year-olds in these poses is too much.
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Sorry no, you're irrelevant.
Wow, your sad.
No one's opinion is irrelevent.
I just want to know why young attractive celebrities can't pose without licking lollipops in their underwear? Frank is right – we constantly demean women and the worst is that these young women in the limelight let it happen over and over again. No wonder so many teenage girls have low self esteem. It is really sad.
That's exactly what I am talking about. You constantly see p0rnofied images of women in the media – but next to none with men in the same position. You never see men being degraded like s!uts being positioned as if they are servicing women, even in 'women's' mags like Cosmos.
And, no – men with their shirts off don't count. A muscled guy with his shirt off is a perfectly macho image that is communicating to us that he is still in charge and waiting to sweep you off your feet.
If we're going to play the objectification game, at least make it equal and degrade grown men just the same. I would 'love' to see rags like Cosmo start having celebrity men wearing next to nothing with a fully clothed female with her hand on their asses.
Won't happen. Only in certain gay publications do you see vulnerable men being dominated (by other men, that is) or BDSM media.
I do so hope that Frank isn't short for Francine, because you're the only one on here making sense and I would just love to believe that there's a man out there somewhere thinking like you...
Haha. No worries. I'm male. Frank is short for Francis. As in Francis Gabriel Sebastian (last name withheld).
Not all guys are the same.
Phew. I know men like you. But they tend not to post 🙂
Shake their hands for me. 😛
I missed the name of the man that forced these women to pose for this magazine. Could you tell me where it is? Lack self esteem should not come from magazines, movies and music. Parents should step in and make sure these young girls no the difference between being in real life, and behind a camera. I'm tired of self esteem issues being blamed on the media. Act like a parent and shut the TV off. If your kid have self esteem issues, find out why, and fix it.
@Ken
You really think it's that simple? Obviously you were never a teenage girl. Look at the magazines that ARE aimed at young girls. They're full of celebrities and girls in clothes not that much better than this. They're full of makeup tips that show girls "how to look their best", because obviously without makeup you can't be pretty. Every girl gets this drilled into their heads and shutting off a tv isn't going to change anything. There are always going to be other girls at school who are affected by the media to influence them.
And really, when was the last time a teenage girl was satisfied by what their parents say to them. Girls know their parents think they're beautiful. It's not their parents that matter to them, it's their peers.
I have never watched 'Glee' but I do know what it is about and know that it is for a mature audience not young kids. With that being said, I really don't see the problem with ADULT women posing for an ADULT magazine. I just feel sorry for the ladies who don't have enough self respect to cover up a little bit.
Lame!!!
I saw the photos and I didn't buy GQ. I like the show so I read the story. Any teenaged fan of the show would do the same, I presume. I thought it was a bit over the top, even if the actress Lea M isn't really a teenager. She is perceived as a teenager and is posing in a teen setting in the photos. I'm not a prude, but it did seem sort of in poor taste. Oh well. Her fame o meter just skyrocketed....
Post-puberty ain't pedophilia.
This is ridiculous, the people on that show are adults. The point was made that the same people who watch Glee also watched High School Musical, my question is if thats the case why are those people even looking at GQ magazine which is an ADULT magazine? As people we are generally unhappy unless there is some kind of controversy.....WHY????? Glee is a great show and they are actors, posing for magazines is another way they make their living. Keep your childrens noses out of GQ magazine and put it in a text book if your that worried about it.
I honestly feel people need to get a grip its up to parents to censor what their kids watch,listen and read and be your child(children) role models Not trying to make movies stars, athletics and whoever else
Of course it's up to parents to police their children's media intake. The problem is, many parents don't. And my daughter has to go to school with young girls who dress like this. And then I have to explain to her how men who are old enough to know better want to scr#w her. And that most people will think it's her fault if she dresses like that. Please explain how I can make this make sense to a pre-pubescent, and I'll shut up.
Pedophiliac? No. Harmful to children? No? Creepy and stupid? Yes
Pedophilia involves pre-pubescents. The girls, and guys, portrayed in Glee are all pretty damn clearly developed.
One other thing: ifyou don't like it or you disapprove, don't watch or look at it. VERY simple.
Um, these are all adults over the age of 18, so who cares at all what the Parents Television Council thinks? Don't let your kids watch or read GQ, PTC, as is your right. Keep your censoring of my entertainment to yourself.
I'm the mother of a 10yr. old girl.Naturally I'm concerned about what images are put out there. Kids typically stick to teenybopper mags so I really wonder which ones are buying GQ & more importantly,why are the parents permitting this.?It's theparents responsibility,not the media's, to keep an eye on what their kids see & hear.Besides,last I heard,it's only considered pedophilia or inappropriate if the person on the cover is a minor.I believe these actors are of legal age.
Thank you for showing that there are some parents with common sense left!
Let the PTC complain – it just boosts the newstand sales of GQ! How many men will go looking to buy the magazine now that they know what's in it. Money will win over any puritanical objection every time.
why is this PTC whining over this gimme me a break and y are not complaining about south park for??? (I love south park by the way). South parks cross lines and yet the fcc and ptc have not done nothing all.
why is this PTC whining over this gimme a break and y are not complaining about south park for??? (I love south park by the way). South parks cross lines and yet the fcc and ptc have not done nothing all.
The PTC does whine about South Park.
PTC does attack south park... the problem is that nobody listens to there crap. At first it was a good news... now nobody cares about what they say.
Why don't these "parents" crawl back under the rock where they belong!
GLEE is not worth watching, most of TV isnt. Get off your butts and get outside people.
Gee, who made you TV critic of the world? And just WHAT are we supposed to be doing outside at night, peeping in windows, stealing hubcaps or sitting at your computer at 7:02 pm pontificating?
It's true. Most tv isn't worth watching and insults your intelligence. A lot of people are functional illiterates and can't point out world powers on a map but we sure do know how to work the remote. What does that say about us as a society?
I guess you're writing you're enlightened comment from a rocky mountain top?
Yes, I am, in fact.
*rolls eyes*
You must watch a lot of television if you can state as a fact that most of it isn't worth watching.
Tia...brilliant.
I used to. I'm guessing that's supposed to be an insult of some sort?
GQ is a men's mag, not a mag for 15 year old girls and boys. What's GLEE (high school) doing on it? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$
This is so unfair to the Glee cast. It's not their fault that their racist viewers have no idea what the taco the're talking about.
Racist? How do you figure?
Having dealt personally with the PTC, I have a few observations:
–They seem to be level-headed. I have not been able to detect hysteria nor extremism.
–Their work is science-based. They rely heavily on studies by university researchers, the American Psychological Association, American Academy of Pediatrics, etc.
–They seem to be getting results. For example, they take credit for the demise of Swing Town.
I think Lea Michele should be ashamed of herself – the others look decent. Lea is disgusting – and her bs about loving who you are – if you love who you are – then you should have more respect for yourself then to pose like that...
Love the show – I think Cory is great... but Lea – you just lost every ounce of respect I had for you....doesn't matter the talent you have... I hope this is a learning lesson for you. PEOPLE LOOK UP TO YOU!! NOT YOU AND YOUR LOLLYPOP!
Good post. She was also acting like a ho on the cover of Rolling Stone not too long ago. Rolling Stone has no respect, anyway. Especially after that p0rnographic Gossip Girl cover.
I doubt anyone cares what you think of Lea or any other actor or actress. Watch the show or don't. Seriously, if you hate Lea so much, don't watch the show. Surely that's simple enough even for a peabrain to understand.
Cory=Good. Lea=Bad. Something you'd like to share with the class?
Get off the soap box the kids see worst at school. The girls dress like adults and the boys pants are so far down under their butts they should just take them off. And the teachers are in heat. so the cover of GQ is a joke. Stop trying to control the world and take care of your own house. Get out of mine.
my 13 yr old daughter and I love this show and i think there is absolutely nothing wrong with the magazine cover but my daughter wont see it because i think its a little to racy but in no way will i make her stop watching the show thats crazy
It's nice to know some parents in the world still take responsibility for what their children are exposed to.
It's too often too easy to just blame the media, other kids in school, "life", and even children being more mature nowadays, instead of focusing on preventing exposure to behavior inappropriate for their age.
the majority of Americans pay for cable because what they want to see doesn't come on the four channels u get without a subscription. this place is full of hypocrites that try to force their opinion down everyone else's throughts. why do u think pot is legal in Mexico and Canada but not here. because the real majority is never listened to in the united states of America.
Weed isn't legal in Canada. Or did I miss that announcement?
Weed isn't legal in Mexico, either. Or is that another announcement we missed?
Give it 5 years and both countries will legalize it.
This is not a family show anyways, I don't know what they are complaining about. I wouldn't let my kids watch it, so they may as well have them pose however they want.
Since when do parents let their children read adult magazines....GQ is for ADULTS. It isn't Tiger Beat for Pete's sake.
Note to the PTC: every TV comes equipped with an OFF button. Please explain this to the parents who listen to your censoring nonsense.
Dear The Parents Television Council: STFU! Love, everyone else that's not The Parents Television Council.
Hello!! These actors are in their early 20's. They can pose naughty if they want to.
This whole thing is just another example of the 'Lolita effect' – s#xualizing young girls (or having adult 'actresses' play young girls) in order to make it acceptable for older men to lust after them. That's what this is really about.
Really? You don't think it's more likely a case of an adult-oriented show casting highly attractive adult actresses and since those attractive actresses *are* adults they are sometimes photographed as adults to different adult audiences..such as GQ?
Do you have any sort of citation that would lead anyone to believe that most people , or even a significant amount of people are looking at those photos and fantasizing about underaged girls?
Perhaps you are just a little bit hysterical.
There's been whole books about the phenemonon of the media s#xualizing teen (and younger) girls. One of which is called The Lolita Effect. Look it up.
This is just hard fact, not 'hysteria'.
I have a bone to pick with the contention that they are 'highly attractive' actresses but that's another debate (media images of 'beauty' and such).
Fritton, do you really think these actors were photographed "as adults"? Because it seems to me that the real problem is the costumes. These actors (except the boy, of course) were photographed as young, half-nekked cheerleaders. Sucking on...lollypops. If you fail to see how this is the s#xualization of young women who might not yet be of the age of consent...I'm at a loss. Frank? You've been erudite...
Fritton ran away hours ago. He didn't even bother responding to my posts above. Guess he has nothing to say. Not a surprise.
Exactly right Frank. You hit the nail right on the head. What is right isn't always popular and what is popular isn't always right.
Exactly.
My children USED to be allowed to watch this show, that is until I saw the cover to this FILTH! I will be discussing this with my parents group at the next meeting after Sunday service.
That's right, be a follower, fear differences, suppress all that is normal because YOU feel uncomfortable. You scare me.
Sunday Service huh? Imagine that, a religious group offended by something. STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
your children "used" to be allowed to watch it?! based on a GQ cover?! So you are a concerned-enough parent to filter their pictures, but not concerned enough to monitor the content of their shows?! You obviously havent been watching glee lately. This isnt HS Musical!
I assumed that this show was family programming since it happens to fall at 8:00 pm on Fox. I do admit that I may have dropped the ball and assumed this show was like High School Musical and Camp Rock.But I do not remember calling any of you names so I do not understand why you are so quick to call me a follower. Though since i follow the Lord, I do not happen to find this offensive and will pray for your souls to be saved!
Bad news, Nancy. The good Lord just re-upped on his GQ subscription. Get real, will ya? This has nothing to do with religion....zero. If you don't like it, then just say so, but spare me the religious implications.
Let us know how that goes, ok?
So you are saying that you let your childrens buy adult magazines? Our let them get to some websites that lets you see some of those pictures?
Ups... there are billions of "worst" photos of girls younger than the Glee actors that get there pictures into facebook. So what´s the problem with a magazine?
Bait. Yawn.
@snarf
You mean google image searching?
Perhaps, as sane and rational lovers of the English language we could reclaim the word pedophile from the twisted minds of these Jesus freaks in the PTC. Even if these adults were teenagers, being attracted to them WOULD NOT MAKE ONE A PEDOPHILE!!!!!!!!! If, however they were playing 9 year olds it would be a different story. A clear case of the moral God Squad using public hysteria over the problem of child abuse to get what it wants. Burn them all at the stake , I say.
"Burn them all at the stake , I say."
How the hell does this make you any better? I think you're just mad because your fetish is being called out. Because that's what it is – a fetish. I have my fetishes, too, but I can see where this one goes.
If you want to indulge in ageplay with a consenting adult in the privacy of your own home, that's your right. But the media should not be pushing this on REAL young girls as if this is how they should look or act.
That's the real problem. It's not so much that older men lust after school girls in Catholic school uniforms (although that's creepy and a sign of arrested development but ageplay is a less harmful outlet for that).
ephebophilia n. S#xual attraction to adolescents, sometimes classified as a paraphilia. ephebophiliac n . One who practises ephebophilia. ephebophilic adj . [From Latin ephebus an adolescent, from Greek ephebos a young citizen from eighteen to twenty years of age, from epi above + hebe young manhood]
There is also hebephilia (sp?) which is an attraction to those at the onset of puberty to early adolescence (about 11-14 years old).
The actresses are in their 20's and are portrayed as such in the GQ photo shoot. Are you really trying to say that GQ is encouraging pedophilia by displaying photos of beautiful 20-somethings actresses to their 20+ and 30+ aged audience?
You really need to get a grip.
You obviously must not know anything about today's teenagers and young people in general. And I'm not the one who brought up pedophilia by name.
You need to get a clue.
Pretty worthless reply Frank. I'll ask again: You say that we are s#xualizing young girls. How is a photo shoot of actresses in their 20s in a magazine that caters to men aged 18 to 35 doing anything like that?
Did you read my first reply to DESUDESUDESU? I said: "But the media should not be pushing this on REAL young girls as if this is how they should look or act."
And don't say that 'it's not for young girls'! Please. TV-14 does not equal TV-MA. And this really isn't just about Glee, either. It's about a whole trend in culture that I find worrying.
And how is the media "pushing" this s#xuality onto young girls through a photo shoot in a magazine aimed at adult men?
The article in question references adult actresses in an adult oriented show posing in an adult mens magazine.
At the least, how would this "push" s#xuality onto young girls any more than ANY photos or other depiction of adult women?
Are you advocating that media simply not cater to adults at all because young girls might see it at some point?
Face it, the PTC is just wayyyy out of touch.
I said that this is not really just about Glee. I haven't seen the show (I don't watch tv, I'd rather read and listen to music), personally. It is about a whole trend in culture of s#xualizing things that have to do with childhood and, in turn, young people are picking this up and going with it as if this is how they should act and how they should look. Have you seen middle and high school age girls? Hardly any of them actually look their age. I've seen 12 and 13 years old all tarted up in makeup and revealing tight clothing looking like they're 25. And companies do market that sort of cosmetic 'enhancement' and clothing to girls that age. You see 9 year old girls asking their parents for purses and makeup. The whole beauty pagent culture that produced JonBenét Ramsey is just one part of this phenomemon.
You can look at our teen 'pop stars' for evidence of this as well. From teenaged Britney and Christina to Miley Cyrus now.
If you don't see this, I just can't help you. But, yes, girls are being overs#xualized in this culture. They are having their childhoods stolen from them in the pursuit of money.
Where do you think this epidemic of body dysmorphic disorder among both young guys and girls is coming from? The media is presenting a fake plastic concept of 'beauty' and 'coolness' to people of all ages (but especially the young) and if you don't fit it completely, you're nothing. If you aren't completely covered in makeup, with heels, fake nails, a push up bra, a size 0 outfit and fake dyed hair, you're just not a winner, honey. Better luck next time around.
Not too long from now, there's not going to be such a concept as childhood.
I don't really care about the PTC. I don't pay attention to them. They whine about some of the things I like, as a matter of fact.
I'm sorry but the idea of a grown adult being attracted to a teenager is disgusting. DESUDESUDESU I agree with Frank, if you want to role play with an adult in your own home that's one thing, but if you think there isn't anything wrong with an adult being attracted to a teenager you're sick, you need help.
As for my opinion on the issue, which I am sure a lot will disagree with, that is why it is called an opinion, this is too much. These may be adults but they are clearly posing as teenagers in a highschool. In a way this could be a pedophile's legal form of p*rn. I think anyone who isn't a little put off by this just likes the pictures. This is just an over s*xualized way to promote a show, that from what I've heard and read, didn't need the promotion. It was already successful. The media in any form should never s*xual!y objectify teens or any other age of children. Again I know these are adults but what GQ needs to realize is that its the pervs who can't separate reality from fantasy a lot of times and these pics could easily be taken out of context and enjoyed by such a person. That's what makes it disturbing. Why does everything have to be made s*xua! to promote it? The same thing was done about gossip girl not too long ago I believe. I think they just wanted to get people to talking about the show but why? If you have talent and good actors and story lines you don't need this kinda crap to promote, but that's just my opinion.
I agree with the PTC. I don't have ANY problem whatsoever with the actors who are adults posing suggestivley. If these were nude photoshoots, it still wouldn't matter. The issue here is these adults are posing like highschoolers, in a highschool, wearing school girl uniforms, licking lockers, wearing next to nothing.... If the actors from Glee want to pose suggestivley, do it as themselves, NOT THEIR CHARACTERS. If this photo shoot took place in a bedroom or random set I would take no issue, but the fact that the set is a school and they are emboding their characters which are in high school makes this wrong.
Are they kidding? Have they actually watched the show? There's teen pregnancy, loss of virginity, LBGT issues. Why would they pick this issue? Obviously they don't really know what the show's about or perhaps they do and they are choosing this issue to try and get their agenda across. Ridiculous.
I think the editor of GQ has it wrong. The Parents Television Council must be watching *too much* TV. The Parents Television Council's parents should turn the boob tube off and make them play outside more, read a book now and then, and go to bed at an appropriate time. Otherwise they could grow up and be ignorant.
Come on, an article in Playboy about Glee or Harry Potter wouldn't be for kids either...consider the magazine.
Good for GQ firing back and not rolling over to the PTC. Parents Television Council – really? lol
How about this; if u dont like the content of the sho, dont watch it. If u dont like whats on the cover of GQ, dont buy it. Now, leave the rest of us alone so we can make our own decisions.
I love Glee but I wouldn't ever call it a family show. My 14 year old is only allowed to watch some of the episodes and I can't figure out why the Parents Council would event call it a family show!
I agree. Further, if the spread was in GQ – what would children be doing reading that??
If you look at PTC's television schedule, the only show they've cleared for all audiences in "Extreme Makeover: Home Edition." They have a caution for "Amazing Race" because sometimes contestants use the word "suck." These are not people who should be taken seriously and I wish CNN would stop pretending that they are.
I agree with you Astatsa. I watched the episode a week ago with my16 year old...the two cheerleaders on the bed? I am thinking "what the heck?" This show should not be on during the 8:00 hour. And my 16 year was not fazed by the scene at all.
its not a kids show to start with, and how many parents buy GQ for their kids, this whole thing is stupid
Ditto. At first, I thought it would be great to watch it with my kids because there is singing. After a couple of uncomfortable scenes, I knew it was NOT for the kids. We still share it with the kids periodically BUT only after we have watched it for appropriateness and teachable moments. For example, we talked about the consequences of being a pregnant teenager, the sacrifices that has to be made when one is still a child, etc. My oldest is only 11, but it is beneficial to talk about things before they happen. Plus, some concepts need time to "stew" for a few years.
Glee is a show aimed at adult audiences performed by actors and actresses who are adults themselves. The Parents Television Council are famous for basically one thing: advocating prudish censorship on everything from live news broadcasts to episodes of "The Simpsons". They do not represent the values of anyone except those on the most puritanical religious right. They should not be taken seriously by anybody and luckily have very little influence except as filler material on a slow news day.
It may be geared towards adults (not) but children are drawn to it like a magnet. I don't think any of you are old enough to see the damage that has already been done to youth today. I have watched the changes for many years and a very open mind and frankly its really sad.
Wow, stepasidesue... you're a real prude. I agree that some stuff out these days is not appropriate for children, but it's up to the parents to guide their children. Adults should not have to pay because children are drawn to something. Children are drawn to cigarettes and beer, too. But we shouldn't outlaw them just because kids might be drawn to them.
oh grow up. You are the Parents TELEVISION Council first of all... this is a magazine
shut the hell up idiots, we do not care.
THE PTC NEEDS TO FOD WHO CARES WHAT THESE PEOPLE DID THESE BROADS ARE HOT
Co-Sign. That brunette is hot as hell!
I find the PTC's comments not grounded in reality. As Fox states these are adults. It is a parent's responsibility to monitor what their children watch. Groups like the PTC seem to have way too much free time and should volunteer at homeless shelter or some other charity that actually provides a service to people in need.
Those girls about 20 years too young to be "broads." Reality is, they're KIDS. And you'd better be younger than 20.
They are not kids. Good grief, they play high school girls, not 12 year olds. And they are NOT 16 in real life. They are all 19 and older. Look it up.
I agree with the Parents. whatever happened to our children being children (or teenagers enjoying being a teenager). If their role models (whether they are actual teenagers or not) "show off" who's to tell them that there is a difference to what they see on tv and what is actual life. The actors are portrayed as teenagers, and granted there are many things in real life that simulate what the show is promoting, but the actors have a responsibility to their audience. And in addition, why do you have to take off your clothes to show you are an adult?
I agree with the PTC. I don't have ANY problem whatsoever with the actors who are adults posing suggestivley. If these were nude photoshoots, it still wouldn't matter. The issue here is these adults are posing like highschoolers, in a highschool, wearing school girl uniforms, licking lockers, wearing next to nothing.... If the actors from Glee want to pose suggestivley, do it as themselves, NOT THEIR CHARACTERS. If this photo shoot took place in a bedroom or random set I would take no issue, but the fact that the set is a school and they are emboding their characters which are in high school makes this wrong.