May 12th, 2010
09:39 AM ET

TV recap: No easy answers on 'Lost'

"Every question I answer will simply lead to another question." So said one mysterious resident of the island, to a pregnant woman who was shipwrecked there thousands of years ago. Boy, she wasn't kidding.

We got more than our usual share of answers on Tuesday night's episode of "Lost," with one long flashback explaining the origins of Jacob and the Man in Black. Chances are that this will either be seen as a landmark episode or a massive misfire by most fans. It will almost certainly be debated for a long time to come.

I don't know about you, but I'm going to resign myself to the fact that some of what's happened over these six seasons just won't be fully explained (especially after recent statements by Evangeline Lilly and another key actor on the show - watch this space for more on that later today). I'm okay with that. Even so, I'm hoping we'll get a little more clarity, at least on what we saw in this third-to-last episode, before it's all over.

What really struck me were the many parallels between this mythic story and the themes of the show up to this point.

This week, we found out, in no particular order:

The parentage of Jacob and the Man in Black (who shall still remain nameless). They came here "by accident" just like everyone else. Of course that's not what their adopted mother - protector of the island's powers, not to mention a murderer - told them. Jacob was the good son who nevertheless didn't particularly interest Mother (they really weren't big on names back then). The Boy in Black was seen as "special" (not unlike Walt, Locke and perhaps even Aaron?), but that was not to be.

They were told that the other people on the island were evil and when others show up "it always ends the same." Both had questions, especially Jacob, but few answers were forthcoming. Like Jack, there were more than a few parental issues going on. When the ghost of the Boy in Black's real mother appeared to him, Hurley-style, and told him the truth, his world was shattered. He went to join the other people, like Ben.

The origin of the donkey wheel as well as how all of this Jacob/Man in Black stuff ties into the science, the electromagnetic properties of the island. The Man in Black believed his invention of the donkey wheel, with the help of the "other people" (not unlike Dharma) to be his way off the island, and he was right, but not before Mother stopped him, because she had to protect the island's "source" (more on that later). This would later be found by Dharma, lead to the incident, the Numbers, yadda-yadda-yadda.

The origins of the smoke monster and its connection to the temple's rejuvenating pool. After Mother attempted to kill the Man in Black, and wiped out the "other people" (how exactly?), Jacob was instructed to drink from the bottle of wine he would later show to Richard.

Despite his questioning and resentment at being the "second choice," he eventually gave in. He would become like her and protect a stream that led to a magical light, the "source" that she said represented life and death - and some of it was "inside every man... If the light goes out here, it goes out everywhere." Not too far off from what Jacob told Richard.

On the other hand, how far off her rocker was Mother, anyway? Was she shading the truth, was her view of things completely warped, or did she just not know the answers herself? One thing is for sure, there was certainly something other-worldly about that stream and light... after the Man in Black killed his Mother (something she was relieved to have happen), Jacob took out his revenge by knocking him cold and sending him downstream.

And from that would come the familiar sounds... and a burst of smoke. (Note that all three main characters here committed at least one murder.)

Those darn Adam and Eve skeletons were also explained, with a helpful reminder that Jack didn't just find skeletons in a cave way back in the sixth(!) episode of the series... he found two rocks, one light, one dark. These were reminders of the game that Jacob used to play with his twin brother from childhood. At the time, Jacob was told that one day he could have his own game and make up his own rules. The two skeletons were a mother and son... the Man in Black was dead, just like Locke.

So there are your answers, and here are some questions:

  • So does this mean that the smoke monster and the Man in Black are two totally separate entities? It would certainly explain why the Man in Black came across as quite sympathetic, arguably more so than Jacob (dare I call him whiny?). Or is the smoke monster able to twist people's souls into something evil? I have a feeling that's one we may have to figure out for ourselves.

  • So we quite clearly saw a birth (actually, two) on the island. When did these stop? I believe that we have yet to be told why no one was able to give birth on the island for a while, at least prior to Claire.

  • Going back to the references to "games" and rules, they seemed a bit murky here. Jacob and the Man in Black were supposedly unable to hurt each other but that was clearly not the case, even after Jacob drank the wine. Was that just another lie from Mother? (Like so much we've heard from Ben and the Man in Black, it all depends on where you're getting the information. Is all of Jacob's knowledge of the island from Mother?) This would lend credence to the idea that the Man in Black and the smoke monster, unable to directly kill Jacob or a "candidate," are two separate things.

  • Oh yeah... who is that kid who keeps appearing to "Smokey?" (UPDATE: It's been pointed out to me that that is Jacob as a child.)

  • Oh yeah... who are the "new" Others and when did they hook up with Richard? No doubt they got there "by accident." Jacob's status as some sort of "god" appears to have a lot more to do with Richard's belief that "Smokey" was the devil, instead of an admittedly-more-confident Jacob actually being a deity.

  • Oh yeah, there's also the matter of a freaking huge statue and how it got there.

  • Allison Janney as Woman. a.k.a. Mother: Good casting or bad casting? Discuss.

Never fear, there are still two episodes to go! Gulp. As for what to expect next, your guess is as good as mine (but we'd love to know what you'd like to see happen - only a few days left to post your video). I've come this far and I'm prepared to ride it out to the end, for better or worse.

So which was this episode, better or worse? Share your thoughts on video, or in the comments below.

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  1. ufos truth

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  4. Caroline

    No one has answered a question posed previously by another poster that was a great question: What took over Sayid? Cant be the smoke monster since he was sent to kill Smoky.

    May 15, 2010 at 11:22 pm | Report abuse |
  5. love lost

    I love how we all loved Lost when there was nothing but questions and as soon as the answers start rolling in, we all hate it.

    May 15, 2010 at 6:33 pm | Report abuse |
  6. Debbie

    I've thought for a long time that this was just Hurley writing a book and the last episode will be him calling his publisher to tell him LOST (the novel) is done. Remember that he was rewriting the movie script back in the 70s? He also seems to be either the central figure or the hero in so many of the episodes and the one that sees all of the dead people AND Jacob AND always seems to know where everything is and where to go. That would explain all of the different things going on...just rewrites of chapters in his book..Remember too that the number sequence ties back to him as well (the lottery numbers, the numbers on the hatch). The only thing that REALLY bugs me....what is the importance of the guitar case that Jacob gave him????

    May 15, 2010 at 12:08 pm | Report abuse |
  7. PGD

    PS: The reason the mother seemed to like Jacob's brother better than Jacob is that she knew he might be smarter and would be able to protect the cave and the island better than Jacob could. Remember Jacob's brother seemed to know how to do a lot of stuff, and how to play games. However the 'devil' knew he was special and was able to get to the brother by showing him his real mother and convincing him to join the others. The mother had no choice but make Jacob the protector. I feel bad for Jacob because he has never forgotten that fact.

    May 15, 2010 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  8. PGD

    Its as easy as this: Jacob threw his brother into the stream and then he floated into the cave of light( remember mother said never to go in there), the smoke monster(evil spirit from hell) needed a way to get out of that cave so it used the body of the man in black to get out. Now the smoke monster is running around the Island looking for a way to get off so it can ruin the world. The Mother knew noone including her adopted sons should go in there because it would free the evil, but Jacob did by throwing his brother in there. Mother and Jacob became the ones to hide and keep people from going into the cave, now it looks like that is Jacks job, but first they have to kill or get the smoke monster back into the cave.

    May 15, 2010 at 9:34 am | Report abuse |
  9. Megan

    what ever its still the greatest show eva and you all have to admit it!

    May 15, 2010 at 6:49 am | Report abuse |
  10. Barb

    Has anyone considered that this maybe a story that Hurley has written while in the hospital. Somewhere in the series, when in the 1970s, Hurley was overjoyed by the thought of writing the next chapter of Star Wars, hence writing this story. Hurley talks to the dead, he is telling people what is suppose to be. He, in some way, attempts to guide the characters to a different lstory line.

    Anyway my thoughts, not yours. Lets see what happens.

    May 15, 2010 at 4:24 am | Report abuse |
  11. Caroline

    Am I the only one who finds it so amusing that so many people post on here how they quit watching the show and could not care less about it anymore, yet they obviously are reading this forum – not to mention posting on it? Wouldn't you think if you did not give a whit about the show you would not bother being on here?

    May 15, 2010 at 3:45 am | Report abuse |
  12. Razz

    One other thing – for those that seem to be frustrated with the hurried pace at which this show is progressing – remember that it is the Networks and/or studios that cancelled it. The producers/writers were given a deadline, i.e., 2 more seasons. Period.
    It must be rough on them to have spent so much time and diligence creating the story lines initially only to be told they had to cram everything in to a fixed number of episodes.
    Just sayin' . . . .

    May 14, 2010 at 7:32 pm | Report abuse |
  13. Razz

    Did anyone notice that when "mother" gave the chalice of wine to Jacob that she said "Take this and drink of it." That statement should ring a bell with most folks! Think Last Supper.
    Is this island really the "source"? Is it the original Garden of Eden from whence man was banished? And is it really Smoky who is the guardian? The guardian protecting the island from "evil" mankind? And that's why he can't leave?
    Are MIB and Jacob just two sides of the same coin? Perhaps they really fall into the realm of Angels.
    BUT now Jacob is dead. We see that MIB is actually dead. And in fact didn't he smash that bottle with the "wine"? How will the next guardian be annointed if not with the "wine"?
    Yes – I can totally see film-sequel (but I hope NOT in 3D!)

    May 14, 2010 at 7:28 pm | Report abuse |
  14. Rope-a-dope

    I'm trying to figure out how Jacob goes from blindly accepting the responsibility to protect the light (and so assuming that men are bad and the light needs protection from them), to his deep belief that man is capable, at some point, of not being a threat to the light. I'm expecting there to be some further explanation of the way he starts his game, and why...

    May 14, 2010 at 5:12 pm | Report abuse |
  15. Julia

    @Chris, The whole Jacob & Esau theory is actually quite smart. However, I don't know if they could ever actually say the name 'Esau' without a huge problem occurring...Hmmmm....

    May 14, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  16. x marks the spot


    women not getting pregnant on the island has been's not necessarily that they can't get pregnant on the island, they just cant get pregnant on or around the darma compound. The reason why? The big atom bomb that has been leaking radiation from under the darma has been making the women sterile, infertile or to miscarry.

    May 14, 2010 at 2:36 pm | Report abuse |
  17. Doug

    Here's one theory that ties into the whole game theme building on Lost:

    Other theories I've heard is that the island is a UFO, that's how it can travel through time and space.

    May 14, 2010 at 2:19 pm | Report abuse |
  18. DUH

    Grim Meeper said... "Can’t you see the two of them sitting on the beach, staring out at the ocean and Sawyer telling Jack how much he’d like to kill him?"


    May 14, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  19. Chris

    This whole series is totally biblical. Look back to most of the names of the characters, epidsode names, etc. I believe the 2 men are Jacob and Esau. And, the light is between heaven and hell, and when you get judged. Just my thoughts, but I do this is biblical.

    May 14, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  20. rlc

    Wasn't Ethan conceived and born on the island?

    May 14, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  21. XYandZ

    kgold wrote: <>

    Umm....if you mean "ever" – then what about Charlotte?

    It's clear to me that the baby birth problem only began after Juliet exploded the bomb – yes, pregnant women in the Dharma project were generally taken to the mainland to deliver, but I think just to be on the safe side, since the Dharma Project didn't seem to have a fully staffed hospital.

    As to MIB/smoke monster:
    when I watched, it seemed apparent to me that when Jacob threw MIB into the stream, the immediate rising up of Smokie WAS MIB's soul or spirit – i.e., that was MIB's moment of death, and Smoke Monster IS MIB's soul/ghost/spirit (or maybe the 'new' Smoke Monster – Mother might have been one too – maybe she was created in a similar way, by also falling into the stream?).

    I think that over the years Smokie's/Soul of MIB's frustration has changed it from being merely powerful to venting it's/his frustration at not being able to leave the island – by doing what appears to be 'evil' things, killing etc, along with manifesting as different human forms to trick humans into helping it escape. Maybe while at the same time, being obligated to safeguard the island it so desperately wants to leave?

    I see it as being more opportunistic than overtly evil. Maybe 'worldly' as in wanting to be of the world, as opposed to Jacob's actions of faith in protecting the stream.

    In fact, the same may be true of Mother – opportunistic more than evil – when Claudia arrived and gave birth, maybe Mother thought "yippee! I can foist the job on them!" – although I don't know why the birth of the second one made her kill Claudia. Maybe there's something about needing a name?

    It also seemed to me that the stream MUST be where the Temple was eventually built, although I know someone above in the blog has said that it wouldn't be in the same location – perhaps the Temple location is an additional spot where the same stream surfaces from underground?

    May 14, 2010 at 1:00 am | Report abuse |
  22. XYandZ

    @Adam: Yeah, I was also confused as to why they began speaking in Latin & then suddenly switched (I didn't realize it was Latin til later on; I recognised many of the words, but I know some French & Spanish, so that's why I understood much of what they were saying).

    But WHY did they suddenly switch to English? I just don't get what the language CHANGE denoted – assuming this was in the heyday of the Roman empire, they wouldn't actually be speaking anything like 'modern' English anyway.

    So what language were they actually 'supposed' to be speaking? If Latin thru the entire episode, then why BEGIN it in (verbal) Latin and then switch – that was just plain confusing to me. It WOULD make sense if they actually did speak Latin thrughout, especially given how the Others speak Latin – Jacob would have taught them that, I imagine.

    Also, ironically, Richard would have understood Jacob just as well with Latin as with English as a second language, as Latin is closer to Spanish.

    (Of course, as anyone who has seen most any movie set in Roman times knows....Romans actually spoke English with a BRITISH accent in those days!)

    May 13, 2010 at 11:58 pm | Report abuse |
  23. XYandZ

    @yeah right: if you don't believe Starhopper, try watching Lost with the sound turned down, while listening to "Dark Side of the Moon".....

    May 13, 2010 at 11:25 pm | Report abuse |
  24. Sunjay

    One question that has yet to be answered is this biggie:

    How did Jacob travel away from the island and influence all the main characters? He went at different time periods too. He visited Sawyer and Kate when they were children, and he dropped by to see Jack and Hurley when they were older. Any thoughts?

    May 13, 2010 at 11:11 pm | Report abuse |
  25. Karen

    I enjpyed this show even though I was upset not to see all of our regular characters. They are who I really care about. I don't have any
    guesses on how this will all end, but I have LOVED the show. This is
    exactly what is Entertainment for Prime Time TV.

    May 13, 2010 at 10:54 pm | Report abuse |
  26. Victor

    Questions raise by this episode:

    1) What exactly is the light?

    2) If Adam (MIB) was the special one (i. e. he sees dead people) does that make Hurley the chosen one?

    3) Why did the ghost of Adam's real mom start this whole mess?

    4) How exactly did Jacob become the chosen one? The whole he took the wine and became immortal bit just doesn't make any sense to me.

    5) If Adam didn't finish placing the donkey wheel in the well, who the hell did?

    6) Was fake mom as powerful as the smoke monster? It's the only way I could make sense of her destroying that whole village.

    7) Where did the egyptian goddess statue come from? They never show it in this episode.

    8) Is MIB just some sort of ghost? Jacob obviously killed his brother as shown at the end.

    Answers shown:

    We finally learned who Adam and Eve were, and quite frankly it was a big letdown to me.

    Overall rating for this episode: It felt rushed, raised more questions, provided few ansers and just plain frustrated me.

    May 13, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
  27. Julia


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  28. Kate

    I did not find this episode to be a huge let down at all.
    In fact, I quite enjoyed it.
    I can understand why a lot of people find it to be upsetting, what with them only answering a few "minor" questions. But HOPEFULLY, these answers will help explain other questions.
    Besides, now at least no one can very well say that they are just making it up as they go. Because the question of Adam and Eve has been around since the beginning. It wouldn't make sense for them to randomly have two dead bodies with a black and white rock, and to have no clue about who they may end up being.

    Anyway, my thoughts on MIB:
    I don't think the character himself {when he was a boy, and BEFORE he died and possibly turned into the smoke monster. More on that in a minute.} is necessarily bad. I think that he was just a man who grew up believing in one thing, only to find out that it was all wrong. And that is why he left his brother and his "mother" to try and go back to where he belonged. My thoughts are that the smoke monster was released by his body, maybe as a sacrifice? And then, just as the monster had taken over John Locke's body, it took over MIB's body. Because, as you see in the beginning of sixth season/end of fifth season, the smoke monster doesn't actually TAKE OVER the bodies, but really just appears to look like them. So he could just LOOK like MIB, while really, MIB's body is lying next to his mother's.

    He has always seemed to be more of a wise, not-your-average-guy. But what's the big deal that he actually is more human than he originally seemed? It's just showing that normal people can do great things.

    Oh! And someone brought up that the twins appeared to look twenty years apart; One, MIB had spent the past however-many-years working hard to find and then try and find a way off of the island. Two, he has darker hair, so, technically, the gray is going to show up better upon his darker hair better than it would on Jacob's. Plus, some people's hair just turns at a younger age than other's.

    Also, does anyone know what happened to Richard?
    He didn't die or anything, did he? I just simply can't remember. Thanks!

    P.S. Does anyone else think that the young MIB will be a really cute teenager?

    May 13, 2010 at 6:12 pm | Report abuse |
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    May 13, 2010 at 5:16 pm | Report abuse |
  30. jj

    The electromagnetic energy/magic light is essential to the story arc of the show. It drives everything that happens. So Tuesday's show was essential.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:57 pm | Report abuse |
  31. David

    Grim Meeper – MAYBE – maybe Aaron, Walt and Suns' daughter will one day be candidates and be summoned back to the island...perhaps Christian was a candidate at one time...and it seems Jacob was able to come and go from the island, since he interacted with Jack and the others during various points in their lives...but since Smokey is trapped on the island, how could Christian appear to his son, Jack, off of the island? Unless Jacob was also a Smokey, or also has powers to take other forms...? As for your theory on the end, it sounds plausible.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
  32. Grim Meeper

    I think most are in agreement that Mother is a smoke monster. She knows (as does Jacob) that MiB is the “chosen one” to continue to protect the island and not Jacob. Because of free will, MiB wishes to leave the island and not fulfill his destiny as protector. This is why Mother tells Jacob “it has to be you.” She takes the form of their real mother and starts the chain of events that will lead to the creation of Smokey since MiB won’t take on the responsibility willingly. Jacob is simply his brother’s keeper to ensure he remains to protect the island and nothing more. Smokey has to remain on the island in order to protect it from mankind, he just hasn’t accepted that role.

    I also believe MiB doesn’t have a name because he doesn’t have a need for one. He is the island. That is also why Jacob (and others like Ben, Jack, Kate,…) can leave the island, but MiB cannot.

    As for the future…my belief is that the roles of Jacob and MiB will be picked up by Jack and Sawyer respectively. Kate will have the “mother” role in that she loves both Jack and Sawyer in different ways and for different reasons and will remain as a mediator between the two. Just like Jacob, Jack is starting to fulfill his destiny because he believes that is what he is meant to do, but truly he has no idea why. Just like MiB, Sawyer goes by many names (James Ford, Tom Sawyer, Jim LeFleur), only he and MiB can see the “island kid”, both murdered someone they thought had a hand in events that led to their mothers’ deaths, and no matter how much he tries can never seem to leave the island (raft destroyed, jumps from helicopter, …). Sawyer will ultimately kill UnLocke thereby finally freeing him and then will end up becoming the next Smokey after he is killed somehow. Can’t you see the two of them sitting on the beach, staring out at the ocean and Sawyer telling Jack how much he’d like to kill him? The show will end with Jack and Sawyer continuing the search for the next set of candidates (including Aaron and Walt) to someday take over for them.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:40 pm | Report abuse |
  33. David

    Parker70 – BUT...didnt we see instances of of presumably dead Christian appearing to his son, Jack, OFFof the island? Was this a smoke monster? If so, perhaps there are 2 Smokies, one that can leave, one that can't leave? Is Jacob a Smokey too? Only difference is he can leave the island? Then we also have Hurley who apparently sees and talks to spirits...he has done this both on and off the island. Were these really spirits? Or another Smokey? Again re: Christian...once he was back on the island, is it possible someone took his body, put him in the pool and revived him, a la Sayid? Alot of unanswered questions, and I'll be very surprised to see if they can at least answer most of them in the few hours of air time they have left.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  34. David

    "Why MIB is labelled as evil?" um, maybe because he (or something that took his form) killed so may people?
    It has also occurred to me that there may be or may have been more than one smoke monster...if I recall, when "Boy in Black"'s birth mom appeared to him, she was kind of standing in a pillar of light...when Fake Mom appeared to MiB, wasn't she also was standing in a pillar of light? maybe both of these were a Smoke Monster, but were they the same Smoke Monster?

    May 13, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  35. Parker70

    Is it possible that the MIB is not longer himself anymore? Could it be that he appears to Jacob the same way he appears to everyone else and manipulates the situation to his benifit.

    This would explain why Jacob can leave the island and the MIB is tethered to the magnetic field? I think the MIB is part of the island and now the light so if he leaves the world ends .

    Don't know just some ramblings...

    May 13, 2010 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  36. really lost

    "the island will self destruct in 5 run"

    bored of sinking the powerful DrEvil & Austin powers movies ...sorry no offense..

    May 13, 2010 at 4:01 pm | Report abuse |
  37. really lost


    At the end of T-5 episode(I believe) when giving the glimpse of Whats on next week , grnning fake Locke is shown wandering with a commentary that "his sole is trapped, he is desparate to get out" something like that..very well implying that its MIB..(confirms after watching the young MIB's desparation to get out)

    And also MIB says to jacob that I want to kill you so badly, but can is apparent from old lady's words that MIB & jacob cant kill each other..If it was some "other somkey", why it cant kill jacob..

    And before he was thrown into light MIB had no intention of killing jacob...why would he? pre- light jacob was just a sissy..

    but again who could be anything..just couldn't the control the itch until next week..

    May 13, 2010 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  38. LoveLost

    @Amie – Ben's mother died in chidlbirth OFF the island.

    May 13, 2010 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  39. Agnessa

    @DUH and Maryanne:

    I'm sorry if the ending I proposed is so offensive and unoriginal to you. Sheesh! I honestly haven't seen that posted anywhere before, and that's what I thought of after watching the last episode. I like how you must immediately insult my creativity and intelligence, simply because I think that's what the ending MIGHT be. For what it's worth, I think that would be an appropriate ending, with everything on the island coming full-circle.

    While this theory is so offensive to you, I do have other ones. For example, I think that in order for everything to work out in the "sideways" world, everyone from Oceanic 815 must die on the island. I think Jacob, like the smoke monster, has the ability to inhabit a dead person's body and continue to exist. We've seen that he is still around and able to communicate with Hurley. So I think that everyone will die and Jacob's spirit will pick the one candidate that was most fitting to take his place. In this theory, I don't think it's Jack, I think it's either Sawyer or Hurley. Everyone dies in island world, everyone lives in sideways world and their lives go on like they would have otherwise.

    I also think that whoever is the final remaining candidate (whether he's possessed by Jacob or not) will attempt to sink the island to protect it and prevent anyone else from ever having to be "cursed" to spend eternity protecting it.

    May 13, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  40. Sealleaf

    @really lost...If you believe that the MIB we have encountered in previous episodes is the same one that we saw in Tuesday's episode then I don't think we can assume he is evil. My assumption has been (and I think this has been validated by some other posts) that the "good" or "neutral" MIB (pre-trip downstream into the light) died and was taken over by ole Smokey. Who the hell knows who that happens to be but I'm (again) assuming this "thing" is nothing less than evil.

    May 13, 2010 at 3:33 pm | Report abuse |
  41. really lost

    Why MIB is labelled as evil?

    All he wanted to was "explore" outside the island,even as a child,know the truth.....he didn't even hurt anybody until the old lady "hugged" him and knocked him down even though he knew that the old lady is the killer of his real mother..

    So what is he guilty of?leaving the island where he is prisioned by a the murderer of his mother?

    May 13, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  42. really lost

    Wow David..You posted it while I was typing it..Hope we are not the same in parallel times..

    I see that Lost sink to my bones...;)

    May 13, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  43. really lost

    I think America missed a big point(sentence) totally..I have not seen discussion of it anywhere..sorry if it is already mentioned

    "That is Light..There is little bit of it inside everybody"

    That is the core concept of the eastern philosophies like Budhism & HInduism where Almighty is inside everybody..It also reflects Moses finding light (God) on the mountain

    At the same time the plot seems to be a gumbo of all..Sibling rivalry like Cain & Abel, Dharma initiative as in Budhism and last but not least science fiction involving electro magnetism & time travel..way to screw America..

    May 13, 2010 at 3:01 pm | Report abuse |
  44. David

    'the light is "inside every man... If the light goes out here, it goes out everywhere." But remember that 'mother' also said the men/other peoplecould not take the light, just make it go out. '

    Sounds to me like they are talking about life
    It certainly seems that Jacob and Richard's long lives could be explained by their proximity to the energy.

    What about Widmore? There seems to be more to him than has been let on...And Jack's father, Christian...could it be that Christian had been to the island before, and after he left, his indulgence in alcohol was in fact an attempt to deal with or even forget what he had seen/learned?

    May 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  45. Joel

    Funny how no one has mentioned in the preview for next week the song "The End" (and it's lyrics), or how the wine flask was turned upside down and then the image was inverted. I'm sure there's some significance or clues, but as everyone on here is a critic, I don't even dare venture into an analysis!

    May 13, 2010 at 2:53 pm | Report abuse |
  46. really lost

    @ Maryann-Orlando FL

    Thanks for the reply..

    316 crashed and four are "thrown" into 1977 and the rest 2007..but they all met and tried to run away in sub marine, right? Like Ms.Kwon from 2007 led by Locke & Mr.Kwon stuck in 1970s with Swr & Co met for a brief happy moment..So how did these two groups come together??

    And ur SP-TIME split is different, where after NDevice they all land safely but poor chaps..keep running into each matter what.., right?

    May 13, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  47. Meghan

    Great thing to point out: people can give birth on the island, as long as they got pregnant elsewhere. That is why Claire, Jacob/Man in Black's mother were able to give birth and survived but Sun had to leave since she became pregnant on the island...

    May 13, 2010 at 1:41 pm | Report abuse |
  48. Katie

    I believe that as long as the children aren't conceived on the island they don't die in utero. That is as far as I can remember off hand anyways.

    May 13, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  49. Wesley B

    Yeah, Ethan was born 2 weeks premature, but with a competent doctor on hand that was not really an issue. It wasn't like the terminal-never-even-make-it-out-of-your-second-trimester issue that plagued people when the original plane crash occurred.

    I'm just saying that a lot of people seem to be speculating about Jacob and MIB's mom and her being pregnant off island (?), but I don't think it really matters where she got or stayed pregnant as that wasn't an issue then.

    Personally, I just want to know how they "explained the origin of the smoke monster" like so many people have been claiming.
    Jacob threw an unconscious man into a mysterious glowing pond and a smoke monster came out. People are saying "that explains it!" as if giant amorphous mechanized-sounding smoke monsters are the obvious and inevitable result of swimming in lustrous jungle ponds. "Oh, well of course he became a sentient cloud of ash and dust, dude. He DID float into the radiant magic puddle. Duh!"

    May 13, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  50. Maryann-Orlando FL

    @ really lost:

    Second plane was Ajira flight 316 – it crashed on the Hydra island in 2007 without Jack, Sayid, Kate and Hurley. Those 4 wound up in 1977 when the plane went though the 'portal' or 'window' that Eloise told them the plane would have to take a certain bearing to get to the island.

    The reason that Jack & Co are now in the current time period is that the hydrogen bomb detonation interfered with the electromagnetic energy at the Swan construction site, and split the time/space continuum in two – that's why we have two sets of Losties now!

    This sounded crazier and crazier the more I typed. I just love Lost!

    Hope that helps!

    May 13, 2010 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  51. really lost

    Let me reframe my above question!

    How did Jacks group in 60s and Lipidous group with fake Locke joined together..

    May 13, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  52. really lost

    I thouhgt I'm the biggest fan bcz nobody in my town watches lost ANYMORE..

    but some FANS here even remember the old seasons and sequence!!!

    Can somebody help me here?

    After the second plane crash two groups end up in two different time zones..Jack's group into 60s and they ended up setting off a N device with a STONE(??)

    Did I miss how Jack's group is now in the current time zone?

    May 13, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  53. Maryann-Orlando FL

    Wesley B – I remember that when Amy was pregnant with Ethan, they said that the sub would take the women off-island to give birth.

    But I think Ethan was early and there was no sub available to take Amy off the island, so Juliet stepped in and Ethan was born ok.

    So, I'm not sure what the 'rules' are with pregnancy. I know that if the baby is conceived off-island, they can be born on the island, but I'm pretty sure Horace and Amy conceived on island.

    Why Ethan was ok is either because Juliet-miracle-doctor assisted with his birth, or the hydrogen bomb was not detonated yet.

    May 13, 2010 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  54. Wesley B

    One thing everyone seems to be ignoring with this whole pregnancy on/off the island bit is that it has been implied, rather overtly, that there was no issue with pregnancy up until 1977ish.

    Amy and Horace were on the island from at least 1974 and there is no mention of them spending any appreciable amount of time off the island when she might have gotten pregnant and knocked out a few months (and it seems unlikely they left much if at all given their positions in the Dharma initiative). And she gave birth just fine to Ethan in 1977. Several other pregnant women had kids during Dharma and Miles was born there to. We don't know when his parents arrived, but it seemed implied they'd also been there a while.

    So it probably wouldn't have mattered if Jacob's and the MIBs mother got pregnant on or off the island at all as the whole pregnancy thing seems to be a twist that came several hundred years later–ironically(?) after the baby doctor that was brought in to fix the problem went back in time to around the start of the problem and died.

    May 13, 2010 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
  55. Maryann-Orlando FL

    BT – THAT... is a very good question.

    You've stumped me! LOL!

    I have no idea why Jacob can leave, I don't even know HOW Jacob leaves.

    I'm going to guess that MiB couldn't leave because he became the smoke monster and he needed two things:

    Jacob dead
    A body to run around in

    Now that he has both, GO ALREADY...geeze!! Don't let the door hit ya on the way out.....

    (yes, I'm smiling as I type this!)

    May 13, 2010 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  56. BT

    Next question....why can Jacob leave the island but MIB cannot?

    May 13, 2010 at 11:09 am | Report abuse |
  57. Maryann-Orlando FL


    1) The unique properties of the island healed Locke, just as it healed Rose's cancer

    2) The smoke monster 'judged' Ben so that he would do everything 'Locke' told him to do. This was MiB's manipulation of Ben to ultimately kill Jacob.

    May 13, 2010 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  58. NotSoHumblePie

    My advice is not to let the questions/missing answers get anyone down. David Chase didn't answer every question raised in The Sopranos, he let the viewers figure it out for themselves. As for the Unresolved, art imitates life: all our questions won't be answered in this life either. Maybe not ever.

    May 13, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  59. BT

    2 main questions I still have.

    1) How was Locke able to walk right away when he landed? not like he drank from the magic pool or anything

    2) what was the deal with the smoke monster surrounding Ben in the temple, and "judging" him to determine if he was gonna live or die?

    May 13, 2010 at 10:23 am | Report abuse |
  60. Bloom

    OK – what the heck is up with all these people who "claim" they don't watch the show anymore but yet here they are each week posting how they hate the show? You hate the show so much but you are here posting? LAME

    Also, for those who don't pay attention, Vincent is hanging out with Rose & Bernard in the jungle. And the pregnancy question has already been answered.

    May 13, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  61. Maryann-Orlando FL

    @ DUH:

    I agree with both of your comments! And, yeah, I'm sick of people posting that lame ending. I'm sick of the ones who post that it was all a dream of one of the characters.

    Or that they're going to use the 'Soprano's' ending.

    Come on! They're not going to do something that's already been done.

    These comments come from the most uncreative among us!

    May 13, 2010 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  62. eugene

    I LOVE this show, and I get it. I can't wait until I can buy the complete set. It will be great to watch several in a row without commercials (!!!), and pick up on the nuances I may have missed. What a ride!

    May 13, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  63. DUH

    Agnessa said: "I think the last scene is going to be one we already saw, but with different characters.

    It will be Jack, sitting on the beach looking out at the ocean and a boat approaching. Locke will come up and sit down next to him and say "Do you know how badly I want to kill you right now?" Jack will smile. The end."

    ARGH! This is the 5000th time I've seen someone write this. It is not original or creative, and if this lame concept, which so many people have regurgitated, is how the show actually ends, I'm going to throw my remote through my tv screen. Lost creators, please tell me you have something more creative than this????

    May 13, 2010 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  64. DUH

    I hope that the ending of this series isn't tied to some religious story. There's already enough religious mumbo-jumbo in the plotline, we don't need to ruin it with more.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
  65. Tracy Ingersoll

    My question: How come no one ages on the island, except for children and when they do age, they stop aging at what looks like 40 years old???

    May 13, 2010 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  66. Joe Erie

    Danielle was pregnant when she came ashore with the other French shipmates.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:55 am | Report abuse |
  67. Agnessa

    I think the last scene is going to be one we already saw, but with different characters.

    It will be Jack, sitting on the beach looking out at the ocean and a boat approaching. Locke will come up and sit down next to him and say "Do you know how badly I want to kill you right now?" Jack will smile. The end.

    It will be Jack v. Locke, which has been one of the major themes from the beginning. Jack will be Jacob's replacement and Locke is (obviously) the new body for the smoke monster, which used to inhabit the body of Jacob's brother in the same way.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:52 am | Report abuse |
  68. Timmy

    What is it that all mystery writers do? Well, they throw out red herrings. I keep expecting great things from this series. What if... we have let our preconcieved notions of white and black, light and dark, define good and evil. There is still a part of me that thinks that the MIB might actually be the good guy and Jacob the bad. Obviously when we first met them, on the beach, Jacob had somehow summoned the Black Rock and MIB asked why since it "always ends the same". MIB wants to leave the island. To do good? To get out of hell? But, the twins were linked and couldn't be separated until one died (anyone else think of Harry Potter here?). Anyway, I think the trap we have fallen into was prejudging who is good and who is bad or making that decision a "black and white" one. Just my opinion... I could be wrong.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:48 am | Report abuse |
  69. sfl954

    Personally I am really tired of the Lost creators giving basic surface answers to really good deep rooted questions. It really is an insult to your loyal fan base that has been with you for so long. This could have arguably gone down as one of the greatest television show in history and so far has failed miserably in the final season. I for one am not happy and feel that I have wasted an enormous amount of time and energy watching, debating and discussing this show on many different levels.

    I for one am insulted that they had to show Jack, Lock and Kate in the cave to remind us who Adam and Eve where. Any Lost fan could have figured that one out instantly. I will watch the remaining episodes to close out the series but I feel that they have wasted some great moments this season. I like the flash sideways, but the character centric episodes is quite annoying. It would have been better if they tied the story together each episode not the characters, it was okay in the begining but not the end.

    To J.J Abrams, I will never watch another one of your series again.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:41 am | Report abuse |
  70. Allison

    One thing that sticks out to me is the comment made at the beginning of the season in current time about the water in the temple changing color. When they put Sayid in the water to bring him back to life it was brown and murky and someone said "the water isn't running clear anymore" or "has changed color". I'm thinking the temple was built over the source of the light and has since been "let out" by the people on the island. I have no idea what the light is – knowledge (Pandora's box style)? immortality? – but I have a feeling that whatever it is, that its no longer there to protect! Maybe that's how it ends – they figure out they've destroyed "it" and the island.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:35 am | Report abuse |
  71. Dee

    LOST is the reason I won't watch V, Fringe or other shows like this. The ideas are half baked. LOST started out great. The problem is everything was a mystery – even to the writers. They created lots of mystery without determining the outcome. Once LOST became a mega hit, they started scrambling to make sense of all the mysteries. I guess someone decided if they create mass confusion, they could do whatever to get a few more seasons out of it. After season 3, things were so retarded, they announced when the show would end to keep die hard fans hanging on. The writers and producers know what a huge cluster **** LOST has become. Anytime I watch something online, they play LOST ads incessantly...this is the final season, only 8 more episodes, only 6 more, 4 more......yeah, whatever.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  72. jonasgrumby

    If I want Shakespear, I will go to the theatre or pick up a book....Stop making excuses for this poorly constructed program and it's faithful flock.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:14 am | Report abuse |
  73. LK2

    I am so glad I stopped watching this show! I think they took a good show, and turned it into a mess of horrible flashbacks, unbelievable storylines, like "MIB", sinking island, time travelling, etc. The list goes on and on. I bet even the WRITER'S are confused as hell, and that's why this show makes no freakin' sense anymore! LOST sucks, period.

    May 13, 2010 at 9:04 am | Report abuse |
  74. Lance

    This show jumped the shark a long, long time ago. The addicts have no choice but to ride it into the ground with the final episodes, but let's not pretend Lost will stand up well over time. In an era of bad reality shows it grabbed a large number of groupies and held on to them, but it has never distinguished itself with great acting or scripts. Ten years from now we'll remember the well-written, thoughtful, meaningful shows, and Lost will be remembered as a weird phenomenon. Like Cabbage Patch kids.

    May 13, 2010 at 8:52 am | Report abuse |
  75. rando

    answer to your first question is the children kidnapped in the first episode was really only for the creepiness factor. No real point to the plot. But it was revealed in the first episodes of this season that they were taken by the others to the temple.

    The island is submerged in the alternate timeline only and apparently occured as a result of the Jughead explosion in the season 5 finale that split off the alternate timeline.

    All that think MIB/Smokey is taking over dead people's, He can appear in the same form as dead people, but does not actually use the actual dead person's body...i.e. we saw Locke buried on the island while Flocke is out walking around.

    May 13, 2010 at 8:51 am | Report abuse |
  76. me like lost

    So have they explained the ash? and why MIB was in the cabin?

    May 13, 2010 at 8:50 am | Report abuse |
  77. Lynn

    I would like ALL the questions answered but I just do not see that happening. I love to solve puzzles but this has me fustrated. To me – this last episode just led to more questions;
    What is this "light"? How did it get there? How did Mother get there? What ever happened to Rose and Benard? What is the deal with the alternate lives (before, after and what could be? Where is Desmond, died or alive, in the well or out?
    I am behond Lost in Lost!!!!!

    May 13, 2010 at 8:07 am | Report abuse |
  78. Jennemmy

    I really enjoyed the episode for several reasons. It shocked me. One of the reasons that I believe Lost is such a phenomena is because the writers don't play to our expectations. Most episodes are unique and mind-bending. If it was ordinary or predictable we wouldn't be watching it. For the complainers, you have been demanding solutions and you got a lot of them with this episode. Don't moan and b****. They are trying to give you what you asked for and still maintain the integrity of the story. Lastly, I think we needed this epis to help us with something that is still to come that I think will also challenge our love of Lost. Heinous acts by characters we adore? That Good may not be perfect and Evil not so awful? Who knows. I just am having great time hanging on for the ride. If you want cheap thrills hit Its a Small World. But stop complaining. You are a viewer. No one OWES you diddly. It is a tv show.

    May 13, 2010 at 8:02 am | Report abuse |
  79. Funruns

    Excellent explanation of Jacob and MIB. Loved the fact they are brothers!

    One burning question remains for me – isn't the island completely submerged underwater? When did that happen?

    May 13, 2010 at 7:41 am | Report abuse |
  80. Brooks

    The ep was great, answered lots of questions.. All the complaining baffles me...but Im not surprised as the hard core fans of all shows never do anything but cry. As if they could do better. BSG was great too by the way. Way to try and ruin everyones time you negative .........s!

    May 13, 2010 at 7:39 am | Report abuse |
  81. Tracy

    I remember that the statue was still there before Richard's boat crashed into it. It was a fertility statue and after it was destroyed by the ship, the women on the island were not able to give birth. At least that was my perception of the statue and Richard's ship when they showed Richard's story.

    May 13, 2010 at 7:38 am | Report abuse |
  82. Suzanne

    Alex was born to Danielle on the island, do we know where she was conceived?

    May 13, 2010 at 7:09 am | Report abuse |
  83. Blair

    I think everyone is going to have a meltdown when Lost ends, regardless of what we do or do not learn. Hopefully, someone will publish a Lost Glossary when this is all over. For example, among other things, I now am not sure if I ever learned why the Others have lived so long. If Jacob and Richard only gained eternal life by drinking the wine, how come the Others keep hanging on?
    The Light reminds me of the Garden of Evil in the bible. Like, 'don't touch that apple or you're in trouble'. Smokey is like the snake in the Tree of Knowledge.
    Maybe when I start watching all the episodes again things will gel.

    May 13, 2010 at 7:07 am | Report abuse |
  84. thom

    Please help me here: what happened to Ben and Richard? You know, in get off the island time. Did the shelling aimed for NonLocke kill them? As of right now, Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sawyer are on the beach, and NonLocke is headed for the well to finish off Desmond, the job Sayid didn't do. Claire is at the dock. Where are Richard and Ben. thank you

    May 13, 2010 at 6:52 am | Report abuse |
  85. tired of it all

    stopped watching and caring a long time ago. this show was so well done early on, was so intriguing... and then it just became tiresome. i suppose the writers knew all the questions and answers at the start, but they sure managed to give it the feel that they were just grasping at ways of extending the series. what a shame, what a mess it's become.

    May 13, 2010 at 6:52 am | Report abuse |
  86. Bulit523

    To put it simply, they are NOT going to answer all the questions people have, so stop asking. These people aren't stupid. How else are they going to get all you marks to pay $50-100 for the pretty coffee-table book, which promises to answer all?

    May 13, 2010 at 6:14 am | Report abuse |
  87. Eric

    The source of light is a white hole.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:30 am | Report abuse |
  88. kgold

    The MIB will have the same name as who ever stays and protects the island. Only males can be born on the island.

    May 13, 2010 at 4:30 am | Report abuse |
  89. Joann Rabideau

    I felt the back story on Jacob and the man was needed, but not for the whole episode! Geez! They should have shifted back -n-forth on the
    storylines tuesday nite like they always do."Lost" has turned out to one
    big gigsaw puzzle! Zig zagging here and there its hard to keep up if you
    miss an episode tough luck. Writers of lost where are you hiding the big piece of the puzzle that makes sense?????....The more i ponder on the final episode after six seasons i think it will be "A Bob Newhart Moment"
    just a dream for all?....It's the only conclusion that makes sense?!.....
    But i hope i'm wrong it would be a disappointment i want and we all
    deserve an ending that jumps us out of our chairs! I'm hoping.....

    May 13, 2010 at 3:36 am | Report abuse |
  90. Caroline

    To all the people who for so long have been obsessed with Walt. Quite some time ago the writers were interviewed and said that they would have to disappoint the viewers because they would not be bringing Walt back on to the show as the actor has turned into a young man over the past 6 years and is no longer a boy. I actually saw the actor's picture somwhere online and he does not resemble little Walt anymore at all.
    Spot, you are obviously a dog lover as I am and I too would love to know that Vincent is okay.

    May 13, 2010 at 3:00 am | Report abuse |
  91. rhybeckah

    What I'd like to know: What's become of the dog????

    What I'd like... make that... WISH TO SEE: PLEASE... PLEASE... PLEASE... that Kate and Sawyer end up together!!!!!

    What I'm guessing will happen at the finale:
    It will be revealed that the 2 new players of "the game" with the "make the rules as you go" are... wait for it.... the 2 writers of the show! LOL...

    *sigh... I AM SOOOOO GONNA MISS SAWYER!!!!!!!

    May 13, 2010 at 2:58 am | Report abuse |
  92. lrs

    Things I'm still trying to work through:
    * Jacob was chosen and can leave the island (he went around touching everyone to bring them there), but MiB was "special" and couldn't leave the island – why could Jacob leave but MiB couldn't?
    * MiB could see/converse with dead people like Hurley ... does it mean anything?
    * What's up with Daniel's parents? Both were on the island, got off and can apparently get back ... Jacob disciples ... manipulating things ... trying to keep MiB on the island, but how do they know so much? Richard?
    * Did Jacob give Richard the wine and the living forever thing because Jacob was lonely? needed an assistant (allowed to leave the island to visit peeps)?
    i know there's more, but that'll do for now. perspectives welcome

    May 13, 2010 at 1:42 am | Report abuse |
  93. Poisy

    I've been thinking about children being all important and all. Wasnt' it before Jacob died while he still was looking for replacement? I know I know, the seven candidates, but what if they were not true candidates and it was nice to have a few more children as a back-up plan?

    If not, maybe Jacob's people (or Ben's for that matter) wanted to single out all children from their mothers in order to keep them clean and pure? and not tempted to see what's out there as was with Dharma and the rest of Oceanic crew?

    May 13, 2010 at 12:57 am | Report abuse |
  94. Spot

    All I care about is...what happened to Vincent?!

    May 13, 2010 at 12:51 am | Report abuse |
  95. JB

    Everyone forgets that the true purpose of the show is to make money. If they don't answer questions then we hang on until the end in hopes that they will have mercy on us and then they cash in on the final episode. Just like X-Files and just like soap operas. With that said I loved last night's episode because it finally answered some questions....hopefully with more to come next week.

    May 13, 2010 at 12:18 am | Report abuse |
  96. nik

    From watching the episode, I couldn't quite figure out how MIB was evil and why it would be a huge deal for him to leave the island. This was until he turned into Smokey at the end. Could it be that smokey was the opposite of the light (which she said was inside all of us) and that the island contains the source of both. When MIB went into the well, the darkness (Smokey) was simply released and took on the image of MIB just as it later did with Locke???

    May 13, 2010 at 12:12 am | Report abuse |
  97. Kevin

    "Lost" is a very liberal show. It will not be missed.

    What?????? Let's see. It's a show about science versus faith and faith is apparently going to triumph.

    This comment leaves me..........lost.......

    May 13, 2010 at 12:09 am | Report abuse |
  98. Mateo


    For whatever reason MIB can not leave the island on his own witch I assume is the main reason for all of drama. Jacob obviously does not have that restriction. I would think Jacob took up MIB Donkey wheel construction to travel off the island.

    Jacob was killed by Ben because it could be done, just needed someone to do it besides MIB.

    Ben was born in the woods just off a highway before he and his father went to the island.

    May 13, 2010 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
  99. MLutt

    There is a clear correlation between the Man In Black and the announcement of the production of Men In Black III.

    May 13, 2010 at 12:04 am | Report abuse |
  100. Amie

    I'm confused...ha! Yes, I'm confused about a lot in this show!

    If Jacob and MIB can't leave the island, then why has Jacob been seen all over the globe "touching" people over the years? Did I miss something where only MIB can't leave and Jacob can?

    I wonder if Ben Linnus is really "special" somehow since he was able to kill MIB was able to kill "mother." Did Ben's mother die in childbirth in the real world or on the island? So many questions!!

    May 12, 2010 at 11:46 pm | Report abuse |
  101. Heidi

    Remember in this last episode that MiB said why do you watch us –from high above you watch us. Or something along that line. This was when they were in the village playing the game as adults. Could that have some ties to god and heaven??? Can't wait for the next episode

    May 12, 2010 at 11:37 pm | Report abuse |
  102. alias

    It is very interesting though how Jacob traveled around the world to visit all candidates.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:34 pm | Report abuse |
  103. enuffisenuff

    Every time I figured that the last episode I watched was most disappointing, the next one gets worse. As a huge fan of Lost, I wish the show would have just been taken off the air. Every episode so far seems to have been hurriedly written and they all seem to be just jumping the shark.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:33 pm | Report abuse |
  104. N/A

    Just one change, the issue wasn't giving birth on the island, the issue was giving birth on the island to children conceived on the island. And we do know that Ethan was born on the island, and most probably conceived on the island as well.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:27 pm | Report abuse |
  105. Adam

    I love Lost! I have enjoyed Season 6 and really embraced the Sideways world. I have faith we will see it's purpose in the end. (already starting to, in fact!) I have enjoyed every episode of this season including "What Kate Did" but was quite disappointed in last night's episode. There was some good stuff but mostly poorly done. Here is my good and bad:

    1. Answered Adam & Eve question . I liked that it was an answer nobody saw coming. It wasn't Bernard & Rose, Sun & Jin or Kate & Sawyer/Jack. Good surprise!

    2. Interesting that Jacob and MIB were not just brothers, but twins!

    3. We know Jacob is going to "make up a game with his own rules" which we know has been being played before our eyes.

    1. Alison Janney (a fine actress) miscast – didn't buy it.

    2. Boy who played Young MIB – poor acting. Sorry.

    3. f/x were terrible – the "light" was SO cheesy... amateurish!

    4. Donkey wheel lying against wall in the well when MIB was knocked out. Woke up... everyone was killed... well filled in... so how does the donkey wheel get built? When? By whom? Nobody in this episode!

    5. Poorly directed and bad flow to the episode.

    6. Jacob was so whiney! Man... grow some!

    5. Claudia and Nameless lady speaking a foreign language and then all of a sudden switch to english. Huh?? Claudia gives a weird look and then switches to english like saying "Oh, I'm supposed to speak english now?" Couldn't they have waited until Claudia was dead before Nameless spoke english!

    6. Smokey comes out of the light after MIB goes in? Really? I can buy MIB is dead, but really? Smokey just happens for no apparent reason?? I can understand Smokey now takes on MIBs image but we have no explanation of where Smokey comes form or why it exists.

    7. When Jack and gang found Adam & Eve in Season 1 Jack (man of science) estimated they had been 30 years. Now we find out they have been there 2000 years. I could be wrong but I am going to go out on a limb and say skeletons can't last 2000 years unless mummified! Also, the black and white stones were not found until Jack and Hurley went back to the cave earlier this season. They were not found in Season 1. (Correct me if I'm wrong on this becauses I didn't rewatch the episode to verify)

    I am hoping this was simply the mother (no pun inteneded) of all set-up episodes!!

    My theory is this... As Desmond works his magic in both the island and sideways world, the awareness will grow with the Losties in both worlds that the other world exists. The Sideways people will come to realize MIB is evil and trying to get off the island which is a very bad thing! Working with Desmond (the constant) and their island selves, they will come up with a way to destory the island, killing ALL it's inhabitants including MIB. They will make the ultimate sacrifice. The island will "sink". The sideways world will be left and their lives will go on. In many cases better than before. A lot of redemption going on in Sidways land!

    The last scene will be on the island, as it sinks and the Losties are dying, the camera will focus on Jack's eye as it closes.

    A lot of answers will not come. But we can be satisfied the Losties will live in their new inter-twined lives.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:10 pm | Report abuse |
  106. Casey

    Am I the only one to hear Alison Janey call the Man in Black, Jose? Right before the MIB goes to her, her last word is Jose. Or did I miss hear that? What did she say?

    May 12, 2010 at 9:54 pm | Report abuse |
  107. the8thwonder

    Ekos character was Killed because the Actor wanted off the show... Read the Article waaaaay back

    May 12, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
  108. Larry

    This episode was created so that we would have sympathy for the devil (aka MiB, No Name, Jacob's bro, Smokey, etc).

    May 12, 2010 at 9:34 pm | Report abuse |
  109. Jon

    No one gave birth if they conceived on the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 8:37 pm | Report abuse |
  110. shawn

    Pregnant woman's name was Claudia

    May 12, 2010 at 8:27 pm | Report abuse |
  111. shawn

    A child can be born on the island if it was conceived off the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 8:26 pm | Report abuse |
  112. Sixoh

    I have an easy answer...kill off this monster! Good grief already!

    May 12, 2010 at 7:41 pm | Report abuse |
  113. Michelle

    The pregnant woman didn't say that first line, the other woman did.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:23 pm | Report abuse |
  114. tommy O

    Ever hang out with a really smart person who, when the spoke, you couldn't wait to hear them. Then they started drinking...and had no idea that not only were they not making sense, sounded like they had taken one too many trips down the yellow brick road? But because they were your friend, you didn't tell them later how stupid you found out they were.

    Someone should have either taken away the bottle, or told the genius that his ego was showing.

    From a great series to Just a trainwreck

    May 12, 2010 at 7:21 pm | Report abuse |
  115. GaryD

    The island is the garden of eden. It will all relate back to that in the end. It was where man was born, but where he is unable to reproduce, he could reproduce when banished from the garden, and Lost will try to relate all of this back as some Garden of Eden, origination / end of man BS.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:20 pm | Report abuse |
  116. k8

    @ keith. Karen Grassle was the mother on Little House

    May 12, 2010 at 7:12 pm | Report abuse |
  117. Jay

    I keep thinking of MIB as "Cosmo." Not because he reminds me of Kramer in any way, but because the writers made his first name matter just by not telling us what it is.

    Jacob and Cosmo. Yeah.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:10 pm | Report abuse |
  118. Brad (San Diego)

    Pretty Kane & Abel to me. But last night's episode was pretty bad. Bad as in casting, writing, even FX.

    May 12, 2010 at 7:07 pm | Report abuse |
  119. v8a

    All that we know for sure that MIB just took form after going down the waterfall onto the light and dropped the dead body of Jacob's brother that Jacob found and returned home with. Now with two episodes left, who will be the one. Or will there be? MIB will kill everyone and leave the island or is it just a pretense to kill them all. He is not Jacob's brother at all. MIB is something the island unleashed and that is all. It unleashed the evil Jacob's brother had and that is what will destroy the world if the light ever goes out.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:59 pm | Report abuse |
  120. puchini

    I have to address that people are going a bit far with the name calling at Jacob. Simpleton? Functional retard? Come on. It is clear that these people who are so negative toward Jacob have no concept of character development, plot development or childhood development for that matter. Mother was not the biological mother to the twins, so it is human nature for her to prefer one over the other. I have two kids and I love them differently, but I love them EQUALLY. It was clear to Jacob, MIB and most of the audience watching that she preferred MIB – and Jacob was intelligent and emotionally mature enough to call her out on loving them differently but NOT equally. MIB had a relationship with Mother that was not only mother/son, but teacher/student. It is apparent that she didn’t have that same relationship with Jacob because she didn’t leave the game on the beach as a special treat for him – but it was left for MIB so that he could develop the game and, in turn, develop his critical thinking skills. During these formative years from birth to 13, she nurtured Jacob and MIB to their different strengths.
    Further, MIB left Mother at 13 and lived with “The Others” of his time for 30 years. He had the opportunity to learn about the world beyond the island. He learned how to interact with different personalities and to live in a group. He was able to observe different perspectives besides his, Jacob’s and Mother’s. All of these things are critical for a person to truly mature. Jacob continued to be sheltered by Mother until he was 43. He didn’t have the same opportunities as MIB and he was stunted emotionally. That is why he appeared whiny and somewhat child-like, continuously seeking Mother’s approval and love. Mother didn’t allow him to grow because she always kept him by her side to supposedly protect him. But I’m sure her agenda was – at least in part – to keep him around so she wouldn’t be lonely as she walked the island for an eternity.
    But the reason Jacob from this episode is different from the Jacob that we have grown to know and love (or, for some of us, hate) is because years have passed since this origin story of the twins. I would hope that after hundreds of years – or more likely, thousands of years – a person would gain some perspective, some insight, some self-awareness and knowledge. We still don’t know who Jacob and MIB really are, but this episode answered a lot of questions for me.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:50 pm | Report abuse |
  121. ryan s

    seriously people...

    Jacob's brother is NOT DEAD. By the rules somehow created by their adoptive mother, they cant kill each other. Down (or up??) the cave of light is not death as stated by adoptive mother. So Jacob's brother is simply in a different form, and is STILL trying to leave the island, what he has stated over and over no matter what body he was in or projecting.

    We don't know why the brothers shouldn't have left the island, but we do know why now it's important to stop the one brother (mib/smoke monster) from leaving (everything ceases to exist as we know it)

    This is science fiction, don't get so hung up on dead/alive, good/bad as there are many shades and stages in between and beyond...

    May 12, 2010 at 6:40 pm | Report abuse |
  122. k8

    I think they are playing a chess or checker game with the shows characters as the pawns , knights, rooks etc.....See who wins in the end. Light or Dark. Good or Evil. Just a thought.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:38 pm | Report abuse |
  123. BLost

    Jacob kills his brother.

    Black smoke can occupy bodies of dead people (Jack's father, Locke)

    When we first met him last season, the black smoke was occupying the body of Jacob's brother.
    MIB isn't really Jacob's brother or a man at all.

    The brothers are based on Romulus & Remus from mythology.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:30 pm | Report abuse |
  124. Laszlo

    My take is that the whole LOST story is about Genesis.

    The people who are brought to the island have LOST SOULS.

    When the island is done with them, they die!

    May 12, 2010 at 6:24 pm | Report abuse |
  125. Paul

    All of you "Lost" fans have been duped into watching a show that was only meant to last one season. This show without a doubt is the most ridiculous, drawn out, horrible written soap opera that network tv has produced and you all have been watching it for six years. All I can say is keep watching and maybe they will find another "hatch".

    May 12, 2010 at 6:23 pm | Report abuse |
  126. ctekinc

    If MIB stopped aging you think he would've done it before he lost most of his hair!

    May 12, 2010 at 6:18 pm | Report abuse |
  127. Brian

    after each episode, I sit back and try to logically make sense and puit the pieces together, once thats done and you think you have a handle on whats happening, they show another episode (like last nights) that throws all your senses running amuck and your back to the drawing board trying to put it together again? I think the final episodes will still leave us utterly confused and watching reruns for years trying to put the pieces together!!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 6:08 pm | Report abuse |
  128. charles

    Of course, no one should become too stressed-out with the inevitable problems the writers will have in concluding Lost.

    But, on the other hand, they brought this on themselves. It's very easy to create a mystery. And these guys went mystery-happy. But when people start doubting there ever were underlying solutions and answers, the writers hurry up to save face.

    The problem is that they are just better at making up mysteries than they are at making up answers to those mysteries, especially this late in the game.

    May 12, 2010 at 6:06 pm | Report abuse |
  129. Charles H

    If we say that they temple is over the light is there more meaning to the fact that the water in the temple went dark after Jacob died.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:55 pm | Report abuse |
  130. Jack

    In regards to the baby thing, it's not QUITE as simple as "they can be concieved *or* born on island but not both".... it was described more as they could not be *carried* in utero on the island for long.

    I can't recall if Claire's baby was a lil early, but they seemed to indicate there was an influence on the island that eventually would kill any fetus.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:45 pm | Report abuse |
  131. kev o

    Allison Janney did not pull that role off well at all. In fact the acting has become progressively worse since season 4, even amongst the veteran actors. I am losing faith in the show and am leaning towards it being a less than satisfying ending. It is clear the creators and writers did not have a coherent vision in season 1 through 3 of where they were taking the show (which were the best years in my opinion), having wasted season 4 and 5 on commandos and the dharma initiative and now they're sloppily throwing it all together in the last few episodes. A big miss.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  132. starhopper

    Something I've been meaning to ask. When Sayiid was resurrected in the temple – what resurrected him? What is inside Sayiid? It certainly can;t be the smoke monster! If you remember, once Sayiid was resurrected, he was sent out to kill the smoke monster (in the form of John Locke).

    If smokeyis in Jhn Locke, who is in Sayiid? Is there some force we have not seen yet? After all, Dogon told Jack that Sayiid was "infected" and that it would grow. That doesn't sound like smokey inhabiting Sayiid to me.

    Anyways, just wondering what you all thought about this.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:31 pm | Report abuse |
  133. starhopper

    Hey guys – the "Oz" theory is just an idea – nothing sacred as I have found the "LOST" writers can often surprise us after we think we've figured things out!

    Have fun with it, tear it apart – no biggie. Frankly, I myself will be surprised if my OZ theory turns out to be anywhere near what is planned for the end.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:24 pm | Report abuse |
  134. Aaron

    What if MiBs name is Something Shepherd?

    May 12, 2010 at 5:07 pm | Report abuse |
  135. Maryann-Orlando FL

    Anyone here think that 'scoopblk' and 'yeah right' are the same person? Agreeing with themself?


    May 12, 2010 at 5:02 pm | Report abuse |
  136. Q


    All you said is that the ending may not be a dream or purgatory, but you know what, we may just find out that there's an alien behind a curtain somewhere who's the Wizard.

    Your statement does not invalidate the OZ idea.

    May 12, 2010 at 5:01 pm | Report abuse |
  137. scoopblk

    I agree with yeah right, starhopper is stupid and will go nowhere in life with lost, just give up. the end, i agree 100% with yeah right....i think he's my brother, starhopper can go take a shower your ideas are dummmmg

    May 12, 2010 at 5:00 pm | Report abuse |
  138. SLACK

    The writers have said 2 things for sure: the end will not be purgatory, or a dream. So, I don't think the Oz idea will fly, despite all the valid connections.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  139. LoveLost

    How aout when the "Black Rock" was taken by a storm one of the slaves with Richard looked out the window and declared"El Diablo, El Diablo is guarding the island" The guardian/protector of the island is the devil??? Your thoughts please. Alosmjacke & Des, brothers figuratively speaking...

    May 12, 2010 at 4:56 pm | Report abuse |
  140. Maryann-Orlando FL

    I think that it was not Jacob's 'others' that killed the Dharma Initialtive, it was MIB posing as Jacob and fooling Richard. I think the others have been following MIB all this time, not Jacob.

    Remember, it was the MIB who did not want people coming to the island, because the fight, destroy, corrupt....

    I think there's got to be more wine, Jacob wouldn't just hand over the bottle to someone who wants to leave the island.

    Ben was able to release Smokey because neither Ben OR Smoky wanted the mercenaries on the island. Common goal.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:54 pm | Report abuse |
  141. Dude

    "When writers just make stuff up as they go along the show loses credibility"

    .......aren't all TV shows made up? The most fun part of LOST was and is the journey. LOST is the only show I've watched and continued to watch consistently over the past 5 years. People complaining about putting so much time "into LOST" are stupid. It's a tv show, and a damn fine one at that. Name another show this decade that has provoked so much conversation and sparked such a rabid fanbase.

    Enjoy it you complainers, in 3 1/2 hours it's all over.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:53 pm | Report abuse |
  142. Emm

    There's a certain point where MIB and Jacob stop aging. MIB aging is probably stopped by the trip down the river. Does Jacob stop aging when he becomes the island protector?

    MIB broke the bottle of wine that is supposedly used for the ceremony when a person becomes protector of the island. WIll that change anything?

    Why (season 3?) was Ben able to "unleash" the smoke monster on Keamy and the mercenaries from the barge?

    Still don't understand why the Others had Ben kill the Dharma people, especially if the Others were following orders from Jacob.

    Remember, just because MIB is portrayed as originally innocent, doesn't mean he stays that way. Remember all of the people that he has killed as the smoke monster?


    May 12, 2010 at 4:48 pm | Report abuse |
  143. Along for the ride

    Man has this episode caused a rift in Lostdom...

    I think a lot of the disgruntle comments are a result of impatience and overindulgence. I , for one, would be very insulted if they tied everything together in a neat bow. I love this show because it asks its viewers to pay attention, use intellect, and most importantly to be patient. Lost has no equal. Why are there so many people begging for Lost to be normal or concise?

    Allison Jennings... I'm not a television fanatic. I've only seen her in small parts in movies. I think she did just fine.

    Moral: Accept the mythology (warts and all), or don't. If you hate it at this point you don't get it. You may not get it. Invest your time in something you'd enjoy. Something easy. But if you check your A.D.H.D. at the door I think you'll find an epic, fantastic, and rare bit of storytelling.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:46 pm | Report abuse |
  144. Maryann-Orlando FL

    Alice in Wonderland is another theme that Lost 'borrows' from.

    Along with the bible, Egyptian mythology, greek mythology, and classic literature.

    Shame that the trolls on here are not intelligent enough to 'get' what Lost provides. I've read so many books that were featured on the show, and did so much research about things on Lost that I feel enlightened and smarter than I was before Lost.

    If only some could see the valuable knowledge the show can lead you to, maybe they wouldn't be trolls anymore!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:45 pm | Report abuse |
  145. JayMo

    How are they going to tie up the loose ends in the last few hours? Will MIB get off the island and will Jacob find a replacement? What is Desmonds purpose? How is the sideways world going to turn out with the people in that story? Wheres Richard and whats his purpose? These are big questions that cant be ignored.

    Isnt this such a great show? Look how many posts are on here! Awesome!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:41 pm | Report abuse |
  146. JazziJeff

    Ok guys this IS NOT a Cain and Able story. Look up the name Jacob in the bible. Jacob means "to hold by the heel." He was givin this name because in the biblical story he has a TWIN BROTHER who he holds to the ground by the heel.


    Also, the twins' mother is Rebecca. The translation of her name means "to bind."

    On another note, the name Jacob is translated in English to be James (Sawyer) or in French Jack (or Jacques)

    May 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  147. Q

    BTW, did either of the two win the game of Senet that "Mother" left on the beach?

    May 12, 2010 at 4:37 pm | Report abuse |
  148. Sealleaf

    KellyBed and Starhopper...Keep up the great food for thought. It is content like yours (and many others on this site to exclude "yeah right") that keeps this whole thing so darned interesting!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:36 pm | Report abuse |
  149. Dbaldass

    To Nathan: Do you really believe this show ill answer the prominent
    questions and will they satisfy the thirst and craving you have had for 6 years for same?

    May 12, 2010 at 4:35 pm | Report abuse |
  150. I love Sandra

    Less than 2 weeks before the show is over forever! 😦

    May 12, 2010 at 4:32 pm | Report abuse |
  151. starhopper

    KellyBed – INteresting! Well, we will know for sure very soon won;t we?!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:29 pm | Report abuse |
  152. Jeff

    Never write on these things but have a few points of interest...

    Desmond is immune to the electromagnetism (proven by Whitmore)...makes sense that he'll turn the wheel but be unaffected (ie, wake up in Tunisia or wherever).
    MIB didn't seem to understand how to get off the island but kept mentioning that there were smart people on the island who did. How'd they figure it out?
    MIB looked all over the island for the creek with the light but couldn't find it..but Jacob and his mother find it easily. Is this some "special powers" thing too (to find it, to hide it)?

    I agree that there's no way we'll get all the answers that we want. But I'll be happy if they just hit the big ones...3 1/2 hours to go!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:28 pm | Report abuse |
  153. KellyBed

    I predict you're your OZ connection will be at least partially vindicated in the end Starhopper. The island IS a parallel with Oz while the "real world" is Kansas. The Lost characters can be paralleled with Oz characters (who exist in both Kansas and Oz). I don't know that I agree with your character connections though – I think that Dororthy is really MIB/Locke (they want a home). Who is seeking a "heart"? – that would be Sawyer. Who is seeking "courage"? – that would Jack. Who is seeking a brain? – that would be Hurley. (IMO). And just like the wizard in OZ, Jacob will help them all to see that they had these things all along. LOVE IT!
    P.S. who put "yeah right" in charge. Sarcastic SOB!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  154. Steven

    Remember, each answered question will lead to more questions... Gotta luv this show...

    May 12, 2010 at 4:25 pm | Report abuse |
  155. Q

    Why is everyone bashing starhopper?

    Clearly the writers have tapped many storylines and the Wizard of Oz is definitely one of them.

    I would be disappointed though, if in fact this was Hurley's dream in the end (even though Jack would be Dorothy's parallel).

    May 12, 2010 at 4:24 pm | Report abuse |
  156. starhopper

    Embarrassing myself is what I do best – thanks for the vote of confidence! 🙂

    May 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  157. Wendy

    Has anyone considered that this is a dame of othello that Jacob & MIB are playing and all of our lost actors are their pawns? I'm still not convinced that MIB is the "bad" one.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  158. JayMo

    Love my lost but....that episode wasn't that great. It just seemed like it was made just to answer some questions and thats it. Either dont show that ep. or make it two ep. long with more of a story. And why did we need to stick it in at this point in the season? It could have been placed anywhere in the lineup this season and not made a difference. I am super psyched to see these last couple episodes though!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  159. cecilia

    Excellent prediction Pow Wow.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Report abuse |
  160. x marks the spot

    women not getting pregnant on the island has been's not necessarily that they can't get pregnant on the island, they just cant get pregnant on the darma compound. The reason why? The big atom bomb that has been leaking radiation from under the darma has been making the women infertile or miscarry.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:22 pm | Report abuse |
  161. scoopblk

    i agree with yeah right...just stop starhopper, you're embarrasing yourself, that is the most horrible hypothesis of this series and you put a shame to lost fans all over with your stupidity. thank you and please don't post again, i'm only helping you out, oh yeah, GOTOBED

    May 12, 2010 at 4:21 pm | Report abuse |
  162. starhopper

    I understand that the "Wonderful Wizard of Oz" is only one of many books written by Frank Baum on Oz. Someone told me that Dorothy HAD TO GO BACK TO OZ after she left because things were getting out of hand. If this is true, that would also be simlar to Jack discovering that he himself had to return to the island.

    I never read any of ther OZ book, only watched the movie over and over as a kid (and adult), but sounds interesting to me.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:20 pm | Report abuse |
  163. starhopper

    Somewhere, I recall reading that the writers of the show knew what the last scene of the series would be almost the moment they started writing the story.

    Could it be that, just like the first scene of the series is Jack opening his eyes, the final scene will also be Jack opening his eyes? Wouldn't that be poetic?

    Who knows. But I find the whole series entertaining and a great diversion.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:16 pm | Report abuse |
  164. britney

    starhopper, way to be observant!!! that's a crazy analysis but i too hope like you that isn't the ending, i hope it is something no one ever expected and its an amazing jaw dropping ending that everyone will be happy with but as you can see with ignoramouses like yeah right not all will be happy 🙂 have a good day and please continue to post on this blog

    May 12, 2010 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  165. Lost Fan

    I love, love, love this show!! I rarely watch t.v. because it is so boring and predictable, but this show with all the mystery and unanswered questions is exactly what has kept me coming back every week. I think the writers, producers, JJ, actors and everyone involved with this show are amazingly talented!

    I have to say one of my favorite episodes is when Sawyer, Hurley and Jin are cruising in the scooby van while "On The Road to Shambala" is playing in the background.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:14 pm | Report abuse |
  166. anna

    I think it put to rest wether it's a good versus evil thing. They were all good and they were all evil. I think we can leave the religious connotations behind, thank goodness. That would have been just too tidy and too obvious.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  167. starhopper

    KellyBed – well, I hope I'm wrong – but I have thinking about this for a while. Even the folks speaking Latin last night made me think – don;t doctor's have to learn some Latin? Wouldn;t Jack know some Latin? Is he simply inserting his own experiences, beliefs, biases, etc, into this dream of his?

    Is Hurely the "Cowardly Lion"
    Is Sawyer the "Tin Man"?
    No idea who would be the Scarecrow! lol

    Hope I really wrong about this!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:12 pm | Report abuse |
  168. JoePa

    If you don't get it, it's your fault. Go watch some Blue's Clues, it's probably more your speed.

    This is one of the best shows in the history of TV, written for an intelligent audience, which sadly means most people get frustrated with it because it's over their heads. Thankfully, Jersey Shore is also available.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:11 pm | Report abuse |
  169. yeah right

    you both need beds and to be banned off of this blog...

    May 12, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  170. JC

    I think there should be a quick IQ test before you get to read/post on these blogs. Depending on your result, you are relegated to the <100 blog, 100-125 blog etc. 🙂 Some of you have great theories, the rest of you need to be associating with those of like minds...

    May 12, 2010 at 4:09 pm | Report abuse |
  171. starhopper

    Sheppard – thanks. I appreciate that. 🙂

    May 12, 2010 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  172. KellyBed

    Starhopper: You're on to something. OZ is surely a recurring reference on Lost. When Ben first came to the crash survivors he used the name "Henry Gale"which belonged to a now-dead fellow that accidentally came to the island by hot air balloon. As any astute OZ fan should know, Henry Gale was Dorothy's uncle.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:07 pm | Report abuse |
  173. Q

    Ok, for those who defend the writers' master plan by pointing to the scene in the cave from season 1 and the flashback to season one at the end of this episode, I have one questions . . . are you that gullible?

    They could have made those two skeletons anyone and you would be saying the same thing!

    Maybe this was their plot all along, but this connection does not in any way definitively prove that.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:05 pm | Report abuse |
  174. sheppard

    hey, starhopper – great reply to' yeah right' who obviously is a rude child or just plain the stupid one here....

    May 12, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
  175. starhopper

    So anyways, I really do enjoy this weekly departure from reality. The OZ thing is just my take on it – hope it doesn;t work out that way.

    But having Jack wake up at the end would be the best way to explain EVERYTHING that has happened for the past six years – merely the human imagination. A nice, tidy way to answer all questions.

    Only thing – it would prbably anger a LOT of viewers! lol Hope I'm wrong.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
  176. bob6600

    I'd rather watch a continuous loop of Nikki and Paolo than last night's episode.....IT SUCKED!! They spent way too much time with mother and her boys.....writers are running out of time and tried to come up with some plausible answers. BOOOOO!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Report abuse |
  177. yeah right

    star hopper...i thought you were going to bed, way to waste your time on figuring out nothing, they didn't build a show for 6 years to copy a movie let alone the stupid movie of wizard of oz!!! gosh you're so STUPID. you build yourself up so we can watch you fall.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:02 pm | Report abuse |
  178. mike

    I can't believe you people got sucked into this stupid show.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  179. J.Crobuzon

    I gave up watching it a couple years ago, and these updates always assure me I haven't missed a thing.

    May 12, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Report abuse |
  180. Camille

    For those saying you have to conceive off-island in order to successfully give birth on the island... Wasn't Ethan conceived and born on the island though?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  181. starhopper

    Ohter "OZ Theory" ideas.

    1) The very first scene of LOST is Jack opening his eyes abruptly after "falling" out of the plane. The first thing he sees is a dog! Sounds just like Dorothy when she woke up and the first thing she saw was Toto.

    2) Remember the woman (Faraday's mum) who refused to sell Desmond a ring for Penny? She took him outside, pointed out a man walking by in RED SHOES and a moment later, a wall fell on him and all you could see were red shoes sticking out from underneath the rubble?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:59 pm | Report abuse |
  182. Lloyd

    So, codependent, you continue to watch the show and take the time to post about it online, even though you think it is a waste of time? That's funny.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:58 pm | Report abuse |
  183. Shana

    The only people who could not give birth were those who got pregnant on the island. If they were pregnant before getting to the island they were able to give birth.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  184. codependent

    My theory: All the people on the island are actors in a badly written TV show that makes absolutely no sense. The show is really about how long they can string along the audience, no matter how stupid and/or pointless the show gets. GET A LIFE PEOPLE!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:56 pm | Report abuse |
  185. Maryann-Orlando FL

    Still LMAO at all these people who hate the show so much that they'll watch it still, and then spend time on a blog complaining about it!

    So funny!! It's ok, don't be embarrassed that you really like it!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:55 pm | Report abuse |
  186. Keith

    Sorry, my wife was wrong about Allison being on little house on the prairie (I gurgled her name). Will someone please tell my wife she is wrong? She has never been wrong before and she never believes me. lol.

    As much as starhopper's thoughts of the OZ seems right, I sure hope that isn't the ending. The scene of the island sunk. Like the witch melting???

    May 12, 2010 at 3:53 pm | Report abuse |
  187. Matt

    The smoke monster and MIB are NOT two different people. The mother said that going into the light was worse than death – MIB went into the light and it severed his soul and his physical body, killing his body but forcing his soul to endure in perpetuity. His soul or his consciousness or what have you is the black smoke monster. He is able to take the physical form of any dead body that comes to the island. This is why he can take the shape of Christian, or Locke, or Alex, or his own original shape, despite the fact that his body has long since decomposed..

    May 12, 2010 at 3:52 pm | Report abuse |
  188. codependent

    I'm very disappointed that this show is still on. I'm getting depressed just thinking about it. Every week is yet another complete waste of time.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  189. Katie

    Was it just me, or was it like an episode of who's line is it anyways, where they play the game that you can only communicate in questions? The dialogue back and forth, very bad acting, and only communicated in questions. END IT.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  190. yeah right

    yeah well your ideas are're so stupid, how about not ever come on this blog again, this is MY blog, IIIIII run this show so shut your mouth.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:51 pm | Report abuse |
  191. Jim

    I am very disappointed that this show is almost over.....I'm getting depressed just thinking about it. Every week is a shocker ! Watch Lost

    May 12, 2010 at 3:48 pm | Report abuse |
  192. starhopper

    Ideas are ideas – that is what this forum is for. Thanks for your kind words.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:47 pm | Report abuse |
  193. yeah right

    @starhopper......yeah right, that was so stupid, you probably have the most stupid synopsis of lost out of any of us, go to bed, you are DUMB

    May 12, 2010 at 3:43 pm | Report abuse |
  194. Lloyd

    Anyone that was disappointed because not enough questions were answered last night must remember that there are still 2 episodes to go. If they gave us too much before the final episode we'd have it all figured out ahead of time thus diminishing the "aha" factor that I think we'll get in the finale. And don't forget the final episode is like 2.5 episodes smashed into one, so expect a lot of answers then. I don't think everything will be answered, and I don't want it to be, but we shouldn't be expecting too many answers before the final episode anyway.

    Excited to see it end, but hate to see it go.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  195. Kat

    The kid actors that they got to play Jacob and MiB looked spot on like the older Jacob and MiB!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:37 pm | Report abuse |
  196. starhopper

    Sorry about my mispellings – typing fast!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:35 pm | Report abuse |
  197. Jay

    Allison Janney = C.J. Kregg on the West Wing. I believe she won a couple of Emmys. Was never on Little House..

    May 12, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  198. starhopper

    In addition to my previous "Oz" Theory – I would also say that the scence where Jack peered into the mirro in the lighthouse and say his home reminded me of the scene in "The Wizard of Oz" where Dorothy, locked in the Witch's castle, peered into the crystal ball and saw her own home.

    Just a thought.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:34 pm | Report abuse |
  199. Maryann-Orlando FL


    Kate = Mother – both raised children that were not theirs

    Locke = was killed and took the form of Smokey as MiB was killed and took the form of Smokey

    Jack = Jacob – Protector of the island

    So, no, you're not reading too much into it!!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  200. itsBritneyyall

    They were speaking latin and it was 41 ad and the "others" were romans, I think The mother is probably also a smoke monster – hence why she knew so much about the light, how it's worse than death to enter it, and destroyed the MIB's town/well so easily, and thanked her son for killing her. annnnnd the fact that she was killed with a dagger before even saying a word. that's my opinion!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  201. starhopper

    I think this whole series is a modern re-telling of the "Wizard of Oz" – Jack Shepherd being Dorothy. There have been several episodes named after OZ happenings, ie "The Man Behind the Curtain" and "There;s No Place Like Home".

    I think, perhaps, Jack was the only survivor of the crash and is in a coma in a hospital somewhere. Occasionally, outside sounds get into his subconscious. Perhaps there is construction going on just outside the hospital window, and these mechanical sounds manifest themselves in his coma-dream-state as the sounds accompanying the smoke monster's appearances.

    Perhaps, the finale will be Jack waking up in the hospital, surrounded by people he has known thru the years – and these will be the same people who populated his dreams while in the coma.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  202. MELANIE

    This episode seems to be retelling of the story of Cain and Abel, but slightly different – similarities are there – good and evil, but how they are going to end this thing is beyond me. I am glad they are ending it as my 2 favorite characters are now dead, at least I think they are???????

    May 12, 2010 at 3:32 pm | Report abuse |
  203. tobias merriweather

    Was never really a TV watcher growing up and didn't own a television until two years ago (a wedding present) however! I did buy 2 tv cards for my PC (one analog and the other HD) after seeing the first commercial for a show called Lost wayyyy back when. I turned my back on at least a good 15 times (what season was the slowest again?) but keep coming back to it. I will "kind of" miss the show when it's over – I liked last nights episode, yeah it was slow and yeah it answered a few questions and yeah we're all completely lost in Lost! Did it suck? NIMO, there were other episodes that seemed to drag on and on and on and on and yeah, you get the picture. I don't care if by the end of the series certain things aren't answered. I don't care how or why the statue got built, heck I don't even care why Whitmore left the island and why he wanted to get back. When the show ends, I will go back to reading and living and waiting until Hereos returns in the fall (I only watched H & L – don't really know what else is on.)

    May 12, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  204. Maryann-Orlando FL

    Allison Janney played CJ on The West Wing.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  205. em

    What about the episode where Richard visits Locke as a child? Little-boy Locke had drawn picutres of the smoke monster. What does this mean?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:29 pm | Report abuse |
  206. Sarah

    I keep focusing on the Life, Death, Resurrection and the shot of the first season with Jack, Kate, and Locke. Death – Locke, Life – Jack, Resurrection – Kate? I think I am reading too much into it though.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  207. cheryljones

    OK. I watched the program last night, and now I want to see this week's episode of "Lost"! Yeah, we needed to know that, and yeah, it did explain a bit, but it wasn't "Lost"-at least not to me.
    Foreshadowing of the post-Lost letdown I'll be having in a couple of weeks, I guess.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:26 pm | Report abuse |
  208. Keith

    My wife says Allison Janey was mom in Little House on the Prairie TV show.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
  209. Silvia

    Lost is a TV show – it is for our entertainment.
    Most of you people are just a bunch of crybabies.
    Find another form of entertainment – maybe change the channel or something.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:23 pm | Report abuse |
  210. LoveLost

    @A ~ Ben was NOT born on the island...hhe came with his father to the island to join the Dharma Initiative

    May 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
  211. tolkiening lost

    smokey aka fake locke said to sawyer that he was once a human. HE Is jacobs brother.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:21 pm | Report abuse |
  212. Louise

    Sorry, but I never heard of Allison Janey before. What has she been in before? She did look a bit familiar though. I think she was definitely evil and I felt sorry for MIB – all he wanted was to go home and get off that island.

    I thought this episode did answer a few questions but I agree, they need to hurry up and get alot of other questions answered.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:16 pm | Report abuse |
  213. Maryann-Orlando FL

    WiseWoman...MIB did not die in the light cave – 'Mother' did something so that they could not kill each other, remember? She also said that you wouldn't die if you went in there, that it would be 'worse than dead'

    Jacob took MiB's HUMANITY and his body by pushing him into the light cave and now he can manifest as a dead person, or Smokey.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  214. LoveLost

    Hey..Remember when Jack ran into Desmond at the Stadium and Des stated "See you in another life, brother!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  215. Keith

    Fake mom isn't the smoke monster. She is the protector of the island.

    Smokey is the evil.

    Her candidates are the 2 boys.

    Fake mom killed MIB in the cave.

    Smokey takes MIB body.

    Jacob throws MIB's body (with smokey in it) into the river. Smokey leaves MIB body.

    All scenes of MIB after fake mom killed MIB is smokey.

    Jacob becomes protector of island after drinking juice.

    Fake mom glad to die because she is tired (she looks tired). lol.

    Jacob completes construction of the wheel (what else does he have to do) and that is how he can get off the island. He gets people to come to the island to build temples and statues cuz he thinks he is a god, or just bored.

    Jack will replace Jacob, or he sinks the island. The end.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:08 pm | Report abuse |
  216. Christina

    I agree that it was a great episode. At first, I was put off that the whole episode was about Jacob and MIB, however, after really thinking about it, it was a great eye-opening episode!

    I very much believe this episode has answered the questions about how Jacob became the protector of the island, and why Locke(MIB) needed Ben to kill Jacob. He could not hurt him, like his mother said.

    Also, the whole light in the stream is did it get there?
    I really enjoyed this episode and cannot wait for next week!

    May 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  217. cm

    346 comments, i read them all, and have to say some are quite enlightening. I still think they need to tie a lot of loose ends.

    such as Ben "turning loose" SM via the cork plug in the hidden passage way.
    such as Ben meeting SM in his liar & not killing him.

    Wouldn't SM live in the lighted water, not the temple built by "others"

    Is there a tie in that Locke brought that suitcase of knifes and MIB always had that special knife that has lasted 1000's of years...

    When fake mom took the boys, was she Greek era? What language were they speaking?-minor points

    I personally loved BSG, parts of the Star Wars prequel (the reasoning why Anakin turned-the spark that started it, and the tipping point); all things that one can't point to and say, "that is good/good." Rather, tipping points that may lead a person one way or another.

    However, I can not stand the cheesy way that BSG ended. It was thoughtless and wimped out on otherwise great writing.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  218. Rachel P

    I think this episode was great, and for me it explained the entire premise of the show. Many people have used the term "good vs evil." I think that is close but it is really more complex than that.

    It's the eternal conflict between two sides of human nature. There is the spiritual side, faith, "the light", Jacob. Many people call this the "good." Then there is the other side, represented by the MIB. Seeking, questioning, reaching, thinking, exploring. No accident that MIB is the favorite son. I like that they are beginning to show that it is much more complicated than good vs evil.

    This theme has been running throughout the show. Man of faith vs. man of science. Both sides of our nature are capable of evil, and both are capable of good.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:07 pm | Report abuse |
  219. Pete

    I really wonder how many people who claim to watch this show actually watch it? Sometimes I see these questions that were answered literally years ago at this point. Like "Where is Walt?" Well Walt is living off island with his Grandmother as explained when Locke tracks him down in his off island manhunt.

    I would also love to meet the people who don't watch this show and yet find the time to read the article AND post a comment. Seriously I don't watch Glee, so when I see an article about Glee, know what I do? I don't read it. I'm just really confused as how so many people have so little to do in their life that they can find time to write comments about how they don't watch the show. Go read a book or take a walk or something.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:04 pm | Report abuse |
  220. JOhn

    I think those of you who are being so negative are expecting way too much. First the "mother" told the real mother that the more questions she answered the more questions she'll have. Basically that is the writers telling us, enjoy what they give you, take them at face value. Secondly, MIB is not Jacob's brother. Smokey is the MIB. Jacobs brother is dead. The question I have is did Jacob release smokey by sending his brother into the well or was smokey always able to leave the well.

    MIB/Smokey is evil personified. The whol story involves goodness/evil, light/dark in all of us. The strong magnetic field is an example..a negative and positive pole, but all of this exists in one magnet. Good and evil exist in each of us...which one do we let win?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Report abuse |
  221. Desiguy

    I liked the episode but it seemed to be portraying Jacob in very poor light. With this episode Jacob looked like a dumb, simpleton puppet like individual with no mind of his own. I don't think the producer's /directors have enough time to show Jacob's actual transformation of how he became so confident and how his belief system on the island became so strong. Additionally how did he learn to time travel and meet every one of the "Candidates" before selecting them to board that plane and in turn acquiring that unmistakable aura of Godliness. Surely no amount of Einstein's theory of relativity or electromagnetic field theory can explain it.

    I see some amazing questions put here by other folks. It will be great if the directors can provide a timeline of how things transpired on the island.

    Jacob/MIB's mom (namesake and real) arrival timeline on the island
    MIB's/namesake mom death and Richard's arrival on the island.
    Arrival of 1st "others" from whom Jacob's/MIB's namesake mom was trying to shield them from.
    Arrival of Roussaeu's group and Birth of Ben's daughter.
    Arrival of 2nd "others"
    Arrival of Desmond
    Arrival of Dharma initiative and its continuing battle with "Others" – Widmore and his Wife Eloise.
    Arrival of Oceanic 815 passengers and their ensuing time travel 30 years back and then forward as Juliette detonates the bomb alongwith their fights with "others" and "others".

    - Finally among all those arrivals who was "chosen" or had a choice but failed and why did this final list candidates from oceanic 815 should be considered "The Candidates" unless off course the circle of life stops and the electromagnetism of the island is lost due to Juliette's successfully detonating the bomb.

    Well, I like this show very much. From what I had gathered it seems "LOST" turned out to be costliest show paid for by "ABC" and they wanted the show to end this year no matter what. well, I hope they allow at least majority of questions to be answered and leave little or no room for any "lost movie" of any kind. That will be disappointing.

    May 12, 2010 at 3:02 pm | Report abuse |
  222. josh

    i believe that jakob and MIB's mom was definetely a smoke monster. took me watching the episode three times but i think i have it. the smoke monsters are the ones that actually protect the island. they are the one's that keep people from corrupting it. their mom wanted jakob to feel important so that he would keep the MIB on the island. so jakob made a game (member when young MIB said one day jakob will be able to make a game with his own rules). this game is that the MIB can not leave unless are the "candidates" are dead, but he can not actually kill them by himself. so he is trying to find ways of doing it. Locke has not been himself since he turned the wheel to go back to mainland. that is when the smoke monster took over his body, locke has been "dead" since the he turned the wheel. the smoke monster went into his body and went to the mainland to convince the others to go back to the island cuz he had to kill them there (one of the rules of the game). not quite sure how desmond and richard fit into this but i think im on to something. Also, on a sidenote, in the first episode ever Jack was wearing white and Sawyer was wearing black. Foreshadowing something maybe?

    May 12, 2010 at 3:00 pm | Report abuse |
  223. Stacy

    LOVED IT............

    Can't wait to see what they have in store for us next week and for the FINALE............

    May 12, 2010 at 2:52 pm | Report abuse |
  224. 2 Gabby Gals

    This episode was not a favorite for me. Seriously, what was up with the dialog? No one talks like that?

    May 12, 2010 at 2:50 pm | Report abuse |
  225. WiseWoman

    Don't complicate it.
    – When Jacob drank the "juice," his "mother" said, "now you're just like me," which means he now fully enlightened about the island, its secrets, and his purpose to protect it.
    – When Jacob pushed MIB into "light cave," MIB died. But by going into the light cave, MIB's body released pure evil/smoke monster, which is who now inhabits unLocke.
    – LIght cave is life force, energy, enlightenment, knowledge, that all men have some of and want more; but when they get more, they can't handle it. (As Jack Nicholson said, "You can't handle the truth.")
    – We also learned that Jacob isn't pure nor is MIB all evil – they both were human and that the Candidate won't have to be pure either to earn the right to be the next island protector.
    – Allison Janney was incredible at playing a character that is nothing like she's ever played before.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Report abuse |
  226. be

    Eric, Was it really MIB or isn't he dead too? It's got to be the smoke monster (aka , unidentified source or evil?) who decided to use MIB's body after he was killed,....... no?

    May 12, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  227. Scott

    "Mother" was able to Kill the "Others" and fill in the hole because she was a smoke monster as well. She herself fell into the misdeeds of humans and went to get the light. The only she could be killed was by the metal knife and not saying a single thing to her as the man in black did and as Sayid was instructed to do by the Chinamen at the Temple.

    I thought the casting was great and the episode was good. Questions were answered, but there will be questions that are not answered as well. So goes the mysteries of the Island.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:48 pm | Report abuse |
  228. gary

    My son told me I would be sorry I started watching this show. I played catchup and watched all the previous seasons on netflix last year. He was right! What a waste of time! I can't even say "smoke monster" without laughing. It's so stupid! And whats up with having a repeat in the middle of only 9 episodes? This show is extremely lame!

    May 12, 2010 at 2:47 pm | Report abuse |
  229. tolkiening lost

    dont ya'll thinnk that this episode actually prepares you to wait for series finale to focus on the island???

    think about the island not some bummer questions that ya'll think to be answered because they are not at all related to the core. which is the island..

    May 12, 2010 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  230. Jensen

    I liked the episode. But it is true, one answer just leads to more questions. LOST producers are gonna have to knock this finale out of the park to tie the show together. I'm getting worried that I invested the last 6 years in watching this show and I'm going to be very disappointed in the ending.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:45 pm | Report abuse |
  231. Eric


    I think that is because it wasn't Jacob, it was MIB, who had been misleading Ben. Remember he took Jack's fathers form in the cabin? Jacob doesn't do that.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:43 pm | Report abuse |
  232. Steve-O

    I'll be extremely disappointed if the series ends WITHOUT a Vincent-centric episode. Remember the dog? He was running around the island often diappearing for days. I'm sure a doggie-cam episode would be very enlightening.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  233. bob

    i wasted 6 years on watching that show but after the "richard" repeat with just a few show left i made a vow to just skip the rest..i know somebody is going to wake up after a bad dream..or some thing silly ..i do something else on tuesdays now with no worrys..or racking my brain.. i feel better now that i really could careless..

    May 12, 2010 at 2:42 pm | Report abuse |
  234. be

    Question: Did I miss something? How come when Ben originally took Locke back to "Jacobs" cabin in the woods Ben couldn't actually SEE Jacob but Locke could. Jacob wasn't dead yet then right? Sooooo did he have some mysterious dissappearing capability, special powers, ...what? I don't get it.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:32 pm | Report abuse |
  235. ZZZ

    Great show, as ever. I think it answered many questions about the motivation of Jacob and the MIB. Mother could be just one of a long line of protector's of the island (possibly, chosen against her will), going back to who knows when. She sees in Jacob and the MIB the two sides of herself: she loves the island, she hates the people from outside. (MIB seems to have had some sort of natural connection to the island, hence his ability to sense how the game he found is played, so she thinks he is "special". Allusion to Annakin Skywalker here?) Both Jacob and MIB started out innocent, but MIB became disillusioned by people, and now obviously hates them, and can see no value in them, while Jacob is more compassionate.

    Jacob has been trying to heal the MIB (his brother) of his blind hatred of people by bringing "flawed" humans to show that even with their flaws, they are not all bad. (Perhaps Sayid's sacrifice will play a role here?) It would be very dangerous for the MIB to leave the island – he would want to sterilize the Earth of humans. (I think the MIB killed Mr. Eco because he was so blinded by his hatred of humans that he refused to see that Mr. Eco, though he has done bad things, was still a decent person. He kills Mr. Eco, who refused to "repent".) It's doubly ironic that the MIB could have left the island before he became smokey, and that smokey has no real "home" to go to, though he keeps to the belief that there is a home for him.

    Jacob's role as protector was forced on him, he was unprepared for it, but over 2000 years, he's learned wisdom. He has come to consider the island, the light of the island, as worth protecting, even to the point of sacrificing people's lives. Recall in season 5's conclusion his statement about how it takes time and care to make a tapestry – a tapestry of events here – implying he has set events into motion so that things will work out alright, somehow.

    What is unanswered for me is why did Ben not know that the smoke monster was not good? Ben thought of smokey as a protector. He let himself be judged by the "island" by going to smokey's lear, so he must have thought that smokey was the ruling spirit of the island. Why did Jacob, or Richard, not know about this confusion? Stay tuned. It would be interesting if Miles visited the cave of Adam and Eve.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  236. Ed

    Fantastic episode last night!
    The negativity on here is pretty surprising...a few too many armchair directors apparently.

    They told their story and answered a TON of questions that have been lingering (origin of the smoke monster and who were the "Adam and Eve"...Boom!).
    If they didn't answer the questions YOU were waiting for, maybe answers are coming up, maybe they're not. Please don't cry about it....or complain about the SET DESIGNS(???)

    Hahaha..."WHAAAH they didn't tell me the man in black's name yet!!"

    So looking forward to the final episodes of this fantastic show!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 2:25 pm | Report abuse |
  237. Room 217

    I have yet to be disappointed by Lost and it's writers (with the exception of Nikki and Paulo...). I'm most amazed by the negative reaction to this episode. Everyone wants answers! And when we don't get what we want, or don't like it, we stomp our feet and pout like children...maybe like 13 year olds that run off into the woods to live with the old-school version of the Others. I'm all for critiquing and theorizing, but when people come on these boards just to whine and say "I'm not watching this anymore" or "this show didn't work out the way I wanted it to", I have to laugh. This episode has more depth to me after reading the negative comments because it's almost like Darlton is responding directly to them. Why not just hang on and enjoy the ride? Greatest show ever!

    May 12, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  238. RAIDER-76

    What if the mother was the smoke monster that came out of the cave and she has been the smoke monster ever since?

    May 12, 2010 at 2:24 pm | Report abuse |
  239. CATS

    This may have been mentioned already, or not, but weren't Adam and Eve wearing Dharma jumpsuits in season 1?

    May 12, 2010 at 2:22 pm | Report abuse |
  240. David

    Michael, I totally agree with you assessment of the showing ending with unanswered questions. A clear-cut ending is too final. Besides, there's not enough time to go back and answer everything.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:20 pm | Report abuse |
  241. Ethan Rom

    Don't forget that Ethan Rom was concieved and born on the island. His father was Dr. Goodspeed, and his mother was married to someone else on the island before he died.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:18 pm | Report abuse |
  242. Harleygirl

    I still think Hurley is in a nut house and has dreamed all this up from the very beginning! That would be the perfect ending,

    May 12, 2010 at 2:16 pm | Report abuse |
  243. MissyC

    I think that SMOKEY is just a manifestation of Jacob anger and revenge on the death of his "mother". They are both ONE. Jacob is dealing with his own personal creation evil on the island. He has been waiting all this time to prove to himself (not MIB) that people that arrive at the island are of good heart and faith and will always choose the "right" way. And MIB (spirit of his dead brother?) argues with him constantly since it is now hypocritical of Jacob to say that when he himself has committed murder.

    We see them as separate but they aren't. For MIB spirits and all others spirits to be free, Jacob and the rest of the cast must leave or die.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:13 pm | Report abuse |
  244. the8thwonder

    Some of you guys have AMAZING Theories... Really I Love it!

    1. Where's Walt?

    2. The Box Ben talked about to Real Locke that brought Lockes Father to the Island? Where is that Box? Please Writers Answer that 😦

    May 12, 2010 at 2:12 pm | Report abuse |
  245. Jayman

    "mother" said that the light was "life, death, and rebirth" after jacob threw the man in black into the light, the light went out, and "death" came out as the smoke monster. i think the temple is built over that site and the stream of water or "life" is what fed the rejuvinating pool in the temple. with the light out "rebirth" could not happen on the island which is why people can't conceive and have a baby on the island. "

    "It is clear that the mother was a smoke monster. That's the only way she could have killed all those people. Also, the smoke monster and Jacob's brother are two different people. Remember the smoke monster can appear as anyone that has died. So Jacob is not battling his brother, he is battling the smoke monster.I believe by sending the body down the stream is how the smoke monster is released. That's why the mother didn't want them to go down there."

    These seem to be the best explanations I've found. Maybe put the two together and there you have it. As for the actress who played the fake mom, never heard of her, so not a distraction to me or many others.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:06 pm | Report abuse |
  246. crystal

    okay what happened to Walt? They made him seem creepy and I figured he was going to be in the end somewhere. I have so many unanswered questions about time travel and all these different people and different time periods who were dead then alive and maybe it's just me but when they started revealing these answers it seems like people just kinda pop up out of the past few seasons and I can't remember from season to season who did what. There are just so many characters to have answers for.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  247. boocat

    Jamie I recall ALIAS was canceled – the producers never had a chance to have a proper ending....LOST was not canceled.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  248. Captain Spaulding

    Let me get this straight. This show contains:

    1). A 'smoke monster.'
    2). A 'donkey wheel.'
    3) A 'rejuvenating pool.'
    4). A four toed statue.

    A friend of mine tried to get me to start watching this show....after hearing this tripe, I'll pass. Did a friggin five year old write this?

    May 12, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  249. Michael

    The creators of "Lost" would be CRAZY to end the series with a "definitive, clear-cut ending". Look how many of us are disagreeing about one small element of one single episode! Does anyone really believe that there is ONE "definitive, clear-cut ending" that would satisfy everyone? The series HAS to "end" with an "open-ended" ending so that everyone can make up his/her own mind how it "really ended" and be satisfied with (and make their own case for) why his/her ending makes the most sense!

    May 12, 2010 at 2:05 pm | Report abuse |
  250. ron gilman

    also i liked the way the whole Jacob not having a choice tied in to the facts that J cob viewed everyone and and influenced them do they not have a choice jsut like he didnt have the choice , think we will def see more characters die and there will only be 1 choice, also the wine drinking part seemed significant and the MIB smashed the wine bottle so what now??? can there be a protector, look at all the loss FLOCKE has caused jsut to get off the island and how selfish that is

    May 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  251. Desi Mama


    If MIB (I'm calling him "BOB") figured out that the donkey wheel, water, light, all will help him get off the island, wasn't that in place? So, it doesn't work for him?

    Not many questions answered but I have realized both Jacob and MIB are neither wholly good/evil.

    And it DOES bug me that Jacob can leave the island but MIB(Esau) can't...

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  252. Poisy

    I can't say the episode was a complete letdown for me. Along with giving us answers to some crucial questions, it also raised a few more I'd like to explore further.
    Here's what I think:
    – Child-birth: yeah, only women who conceived the child on the island have problems giving a birth due to this relativistic effect of the island. I also agree that it was Juliet detonating the nuke who caused all the child-birth troubles cos it was basically what caused (and ENDED! thanks to the subsequent time loop) the flashing lights and time travels.
    – Remember, the creators saying that no one is ultimately good or evil? That's exactly what the last episode was all about – neither Jacob, nor MIB was ultimately good or evil, they both had their burden to bear. Yes, Jacob happened to become am island's keeper, but only because his brother didn't think he wanted it. Thus, there's no ultimate good or bad rights at birth.
    – The Light – I'm more inclined to think that's what a human has in his heart, his soul, and yes – if one gets too much of it (like MIB being throwed into the stream), this light release what's in one's inside. That's why no one should be able to get theur hands on it – remember: too much love will kill you!
    – I applaude to those thinking that the Mother had a Smoky inside of her – that makes the perfect sense! the way she killed the Others (the way she treated the Others as the ultimate Evil in the first place!), her last words to MIB, the way MIB killed her (exactly as Dagon told Sayid to kill Locke (he couldn't cos he'd been as well possessed IMHO) – everything speaks for this theory.
    – Oh and Jake, Kate, and Locke in the end were from the Season 1 when they just found Adam and Eve, so no particular mystery here, although it took me two rewinds to figure that out.

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  253. Eric

    To the blog writter:

    Saying Jacob killed MIB is incorrect, his foster mother said going into the light tunnel doesn't kill you, but will do something worse than death. Jacob transformed MIB, he hasn't killed anyone.

    I thouroughly enjoyed this episode and I think the people who complain the most about the show are the ones who need shows that spell out everything for them. Lost never was that kind of show and it will not end with everything spelled out, so if you are in that camp, get ready for dissapointment! The mystery and the need for the viewer to ponder the meaning of things are what make Lost a step above most other TV programs. I will only be dissapointed with the ending if they do try to explain everything.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:04 pm | Report abuse |
  254. Chasity

    I thought that women could give birth on the island as long as the baby wasn't conceived on the island...
    Anyway, while answering a few questions, the episode posed so many new ones for me!
    Who is Mother? Where did she come from, how did she get to the island, why was she deemed the protector of the light, where did she get her information? If Jacob killed the MIB by knocking him unconscious & letting him float downstream into the light, how on earth did that trigger the Smoke Monster's escape/creation? And, we found out that the body of 'Adam' is actually the MIB's body, so how do we still see the MIB? Is the Smoke Monster appearing as him, too? I'm confused, as usual!

    May 12, 2010 at 2:03 pm | Report abuse |
  255. boocat

    My main complaint was the casting of Allison Janney...just didn't like it and I can't even give a reason

    May 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  256. David

    I found the episode satisfying because it explained the origins and relationship of Jacob and The Man in Black. I also thought that Allison Janney was good casting. Her performance was credible. I don't get overly hung up on the unanswered questions. I like the mystique. If everything were patently obvious the show would bore me. Furthermore, I guarantee you the show is going to end with unanswered questions. So don't have a cow when that happens.

    May 12, 2010 at 2:02 pm | Report abuse |
  257. dianne

    There will have to be a sequel next year to have any/all questions answered. No way to accomplish that in 3 1/2 hours. I'm thinking the series should be called FOUND

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  258. JA

    best comment so far was from jamie.

    the island can move through time so whats happened may not have happened yet..and dont be suprised if spin-off shows develop after ABC introduces their new line-up of flops...judging from commercials there wont be any replacement for losties in new batch...

    May 12, 2010 at 1:59 pm | Report abuse |
  259. jj

    To Henry Hanks:
    Jacob didn't kill MIB, he just pushed him into the water toward the light. Smokey killed MIB. So the mother and MIB are murderers but Jacob is not.

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  260. Zach

    The water that flows to/from the cave has mystical properties. It can give life or turn people evil. This water flows through the temple (the temple might be right on top of the cave possibly, but unlikely since the cave is next to where the dial is). The water in the temple can heal people or turn them evil (i.e. not all the way to being a smoke monster, just partially). People who are exposed to this water will sometimes turn mad/evil (like Claire, Sayid - also the French lady said all of the people she came to the island with her went crazy, the guy in the hatch before Desmond would wear a spacesuit when he went outside due to “infection,” various other examples of people turning crazy / evil on the island).

    May 12, 2010 at 1:58 pm | Report abuse |
  261. Kerdosy

    I was struck by all the Biblical parallels too. Cain and Abel, the chosen one of the two boys, how Jacob was reluctant to take on his role, much like Christ wanting God to take his task from Him, "Drink this cup" – exactly the words used in a Catholic mass to share the wine (blood) of Christ, Adam and Eve, etc. I think the "light" represents the soul of man. If the light goes out, ie if you lose your soul, everything goes bad. The father issue is significant. Almost every character has some issue with their father: Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Locke, Jacob MIB, Sun, Jin, etc. Is it possible that Jacob and MIB represent the good and evil in all of us?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:54 pm | Report abuse |
  262. ToLinda

    To Linda's Comment: "I also couldn't make sense out of the scene at the end where we saw Jack and Kate looking particularly radiant (not showing the battering effects of living and struggling on the island) and Locke. Was Locke the "live" one or the "dead" one?"

    Did you watch season 1? That was simply a clip from season 1 when Jack found the bodies in the cave...

    May 12, 2010 at 1:53 pm | Report abuse |
  263. Maryann-Orlando FL

    yeah, no answers at all,

    EXCEPT – Adam & Eve, the origin of Smokey, Jacob & Mib/Smokey are TWIN brothers (remember Gary Troup and his book 'Bad Twin' episone 1?), their mother was killed by a crazy woman, that the MiB was SUPPOSED to be the protector, the origin of the black and white stones, the purpose of the island, how the frozen donkey wheel got there....

    yeah, no answers....


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  264. jason

    I also was wondering who filled the well and killed the village of "others". Most guess that it's the MIB. But he, jacob and mom have supernatural powers. I'm guessing she didn't age, and gave both MIB & jacob powers that couldn't kill each other. Mom, and therefore Jacob (after drinking wine), could have the ability to fill the well and kill the village but just have not shown that ability.

    I don't think smokey existed before MIB got pushed into the light. His tortured dark soul let the monster loose and it has appeared as MIB ever since to antagonize Jacob.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:51 pm | Report abuse |
  265. Pteka

    the notion that someone would really love this show for what it is, yet want ALL of the questions answered, is a complete oxymoron to me.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:50 pm | Report abuse |
  266. Wes

    I thought last night's episode was great. The MiB is by far the most interesting character on the show right now. I thought Richard's flashback episode was the big disappointment, but everybody seemed to love that one. BTW, I believe the incident in the 70's was what changed things on the island to prevent women from giving birth (if the child was conceived on the island). All I know is that after the finale I'm going to re-watch all the seasons again. It'll be like watching Fight Club for a second time, only way better.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:49 pm | Report abuse |
  267. LJ

    I was really anticipating this episode, but what a let down. Really disappointed in this episode. Mystery is just replaced by another. Jacob and MIB origin mystery replaced by origin of mother. And who or what put her in charge anyway? Why did the real mother's spirit(?) not reveal itself to Jacob? The writers have this series so convoluted they don't have a clue on how to unravel it and tie up loose ends. If they leave the ending open ended, the whole show will be huge waste of time.
    For those who say the show is about getting people to think rather than tie up loose ends, I say BS! The first duty of a fiction writer is to tell an entertaining story. In the words of an old movie mogul, (Goldwyn, Mayer?) if you want to send a message, use Western Union.

    I agree they are rushing the ending.

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  269. Brandon

    Babies conceived off Island are fine- Alex. And concieved on island, but born off are OK also – Ji Yeon. I can't explain Ethan though, unless the baby drama started after, say, a hydrogen bomb nukes the island

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  270. Maryann-Orlando FL

    I'm not getting all the disappointment. I wonder what everyone was expecting?

    People are complaining that they don't ever get any answers, then we get a show with a ton of them, and people are STILL complaining!

    Did anyone catch the connection between 'Adam and Eve' and Jacob when the showed the scene with Jack finding the black and white stones. This was from Season 1, episode 6:

    Kate = Mother – both raised children that were not theirs

    Locke = was killed and took the form of Smokey as MiB was killed and took the form of Smokey

    Jack = Jacob – Protector of the island

    I read that on a blog somewhere and thought of proof that the writers knew what they were doing from the beginning. In the original scene, there were other characters present, but last night they only showed those three.

    Things like this are why I love Lost!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:44 pm | Report abuse |
  271. KellyBed

    Thank you "Lee" for the most (IMO) satisfying theory. I too have noticed how so many of the characters have been manipulated to commit inexplicable acts on faith alone without any true understanding of why. And now we find that even the great Jacob is just another patsy (as Lee so eloquently posted at 10:30 am). All of the characters are driven by their sense of righteousness. Even MIB believes that he is righteous. The whole thing is just a parable about humanity's need to be righteous and any act is justified if you believe is it righteous. As the audience we are privy to the fact that the characters are often deceived and manipulated into their beliefs. Even the diehard scientist Jack was ultimately manipulated to drink the "faith" Kool-Aid and is now driven to do "what the island wants". The characters, as with all humanity, must tread likely in their convictions. Moral: Beware – faith is often a lie!
    The Lost creators have artfully woven this lesson throughout the series. What's right – what's wrong just depends. Even now I am not certain whether Smokey/Locke should or should not leave the island.

    Another point – why so many sucky parents? Consider almost any significant character and you can identify at least one disappointing – if not devastating – act suffered on them by their mother or father. There is some underlying theme about the vulnerability of children under the control of their parents. The child puts their faith in the parent, the parent so often betrays them!

    Finally my 4 outstanding Lost questions. The 1st & 2nd are just small details that have perplexed me. The 3rd was a major season 1 storyline that was discarded and unresolved. The 4th just emerged with last night's episode:
    1 – Why can't Smoky cross the barriers (the powered pylons & black sand stuff)?
    2 – Where did that 4-toed statue come from?
    3 – What was the deal with Walt?...he was so "special"
    4 – Mother?! What a mystery!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:43 pm | Report abuse |
  272. ron gilman

    are mib and charles in cahoots ??? mib built the donkey wheel and sent locke thru where charles was waiting for him

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  273. cm

    I noticed that every time Jacob & MIB fought, MIB never fought back... He always just took the punches.

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  274. AVB

    The "Mother" said the light was part of every human being, but not part of all living things. I don't believe she is really talking about life and death – as in animate and inanimate matter. She is talking about intelligence. The "Mother" was guarding enlightenment – the treasure behind the "original sin" in the judeo-christian mythology.

    Humans got to some of it before, but if their greedy and selfish nature was allowed access to the rest, no telling what they'd do. Perhaps the Smoke Monster and "Mother" belonged to some class of beings that wanted to keep this treasure from humans.

    They split into two camps: one that chose to deny humans the light, but reserve judgment on the need for their extermination ("Mother") until a later time. The other wanted to destroy ALL humans to prevent them from getting the light ASAP (Smoke Monster). An uneasy truce developed, wherefore the Smoke Monster would withhold killing all the humans until they got too close to the Light, which the Mother (another Smoke Monster in human disguise) was supposed to prevent.

    Neither SM could possess a human form until one has already been used up – therefore they need dead bodies (not to possess, but to imitate).

    The "Mother" eventually killed all the people who crash-landed in the last episode to prevent MIB from leaving and telling everyone else about the Light.

    The smoke monster was released when a human being (MIB) got knocked out and thrown into the cave, thereby breaching the boundary to source of the light. The Smoke Monster's intent is to exterminate humanity, for if they were to gain access to the Light, they would gain ultimate knowledge and be dangerous (to whatever ELSE it is the Smoke Monsters are trying to protect – their race, master, balance of power in the cosmos, secret of the recipe to the perfect twinkie, etc...).

    The only thing that stops the smoke monster from leaving the Island and getting on with the final holocaust is the existence of the guardian (Jacob) and the candidates to replace him.

    Afraid that the Monster will somehow escape anyway, Jacob spent senturies bringing people from the outside to the Island and organizing them to form ordered peaceful societies (eventualy with Alpert's help) to convince the Monster that people were generally good and undeserving of extermination.

    This was the purpose of The Others. Their task to kill all outsiders or absorb them into their society was a way to keep the secret of the Island (and therefore the Light) from getting out as well as making sure that all people actively living on the island in view of the Monster followed the rules and generally behaved themselves.

    This is why the Dharma people were killed (too curious about the source of the Island, as well as unwilling to conform to the Others' ways), as well as why out of all the dozens of survivors of the original Oceanic crash-landing, so few remain.

    Whew... please tell me if any of this sounds sane – I'm being driven up the walls here... Can't ... handle... the... mystery....

    May 12, 2010 at 1:39 pm | Report abuse |
  275. Zach

    The mom could NOT be the smoke monster. She was stabbed to death and the smoke monster can't be killed this way.

    MIB was NOT killed when Jacob threw him into the cave. Jacob can't kill him. He simply became the smoke monster. This scene was the birth of the smoke monster. In a different episode which took place after these events he said to Jacob "you took my body from me."

    When the unnamed brother saw the ghost of his dead mother, this was real (not a trick by the smoke monster which didn't exist yet). He saw her ghost using Hurley style powers.

    The person who is the "guardian" of the cave (first the mom and then Jacob) has different powers we don't fully understand yet. They can make places move around and make those places undiscoverable (e.g. the cabin, the light house, the cave, the island itself). They can draw people to the island. They can make people live forever (Richard). They can leave the island (Jacob left on many occassions). We don't understand the "guardian's" abilities. The mom had profound powers which she used to kill the villagers and destroy the well. She doesn't have to be the smoke monster to do these things. The guardian is more powerful than the smoke monster.

    The only way the guardian gets killed, in spite of all these powers, is they allow it to happen because they become weary of spending an eternity protecting the island. The mom wanted to be killed by the unnamed brother. Jacob wanted to be killed by Ben Linus.

    Jacob is searching for a replacement. Everything which is playing out with MIB trying to kill Jacob and leave the island is an analogy to a "game" between Jacob and the MIB. All of the other charaters are just pawns.

    MIB (in the form of Jack's dead father) manipulated Locke to turn the dial and leave the island. This was a trick so that MIB could take Locke's form permanently. It brought MIB one step closer to leaving the island. Next he needs all of the candidates to die.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:38 pm | Report abuse |
  276. pow woww

    remember what john locke father sd before he got punch in the jaw. you dont know what this is.... i think widmor is ben's father. desmond is charlie father? everbody who survive i think their parents once lived or visit the island? i also think kate is the real key too the island?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:36 pm | Report abuse |
  277. ron gilman

    Here is a question, we know Jacob can leave the island but have never seen mib off the island , we have seent time travel is it possible the jacob is realated to every one thru some decendants of the lady that showed up on the island pregnant , the lineage was years ago before 1600 when richard arrived Jacob and puffy were grown, i also found it interesting when Jacob said I am not your first choice I am yoour only choice and didnt want the responsibility , noone wants off more than Sawyer and Jack is trusting more (FLOCKE, Jacob) hope note but is looking that way

    May 12, 2010 at 1:34 pm | Report abuse |
  278. Tailie

    The Man in Black's name has been said to be Esau.

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  279. Hold The Mayo

    Not entirely thrilled with last nights episode. Answered some questions, left others, as mentioned in previous posts.

    Here is how LOST will end (you read it here first!):

    Cast will be shown boarding the plane in Australia, plane will encounter turbulance, cut to black...

    Left up to us, the viewer (in our own heads), as to which storyline will prevail:
    Is it sideways flash?
    What we have watched the last 6 years on the island?

    This will bum me out!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
  280. Adam

    Smoke Monster has a problem with water, beginning of the season the island is underwater,.....

    May 12, 2010 at 1:33 pm | Report abuse |
  281. Samantha WHO

    I have combined several different theories into one. Jacob wanted to stay and protect the island to uphold the wishes of his mommy dearest. MIB became Smokey when he was floated into the light cave. His body was dead, but the pure evil from the cave could embody his likeness, much like we have a John Locke corpse, as well as a “Flocke” (Fake Locke). Jacob decided that his game (he was told he could have his own one day) would be that if MIB wanted off so bad… they bring candidates to the island and if Smokey can get them all to kill each other he gets to leave (he wins). Jacob used the wheel to leave the island temporarily and hand-pick his candidates. MIB since he is no longer mortal cannot use the wheel, he can only leave by winning the game (which coincidentally would put out the light.) Widmore knows all of this and is going to use Desmond as the conduit to rejoin both timelines, with everyone back on the island. Locke or Jack maybe? kills Flocke without letting him speak first, with the special dagger. Locke is the new Jacob, sits on beach with a new MIB as close of finale.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:31 pm | Report abuse |
  282. T Da TruFE

    Why are so many people pretentious? will that answered on lost before it over? The last episode was very entertaining, maybe not as much so as sayeed and the Korean couple exiting the show for good but the last episode was more or less the ancient story of the island. This show to me is pure mythic drama, its a fantasy that tells a biblical story, I try not to ask retard questions like how did a statue get there and why are they calling the women mother and not by a name. why be juvenile, its not Rambo everything doesnt need some clear cut explanation, there is such thing as immersing your self in the story, using your imagination and enjoying the ride. I approach Lost the same way I do the arabian nights or ancient greak mythology. Obviously this is a story of how the universe came together, the evolution of god and the devil, good and evile, ,the story of kane and able... Lost has been a great intriguing show, cant wait for the next 2 episodes....

    May 12, 2010 at 1:30 pm | Report abuse |
  283. Kat

    I don't think Jacob killed the MIB. He intended to send him off the island, by sending him into the light. MIB was unconscious when he went into the cave of light, but I don't think that hitting his head on the rock killed him. Whatever happened to him in the cave killed him.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:29 pm | Report abuse |
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  285. ries

    save the hate. this epi was instant classic. very revelatory.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:25 pm | Report abuse |
  286. Jeff

    "Questions answered just lead to more questions." Very convenient...for the writers. It is evident that they are unable/unwilling to answer them in the time remaining. I'm turning into a very disappointed fan, one among a growing many, and it is a safe bet that, in five year's time, this show will be forgotten about, or if it is remembered, it will be berated, rather than applauded, for its plot and writing.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:22 pm | Report abuse |
  287. mark

    What about the 4 toed we know what civilization created that? We know how it was smashed, by the Black Rock ship when Richard came to the island....

    Who built the 4 toed statue?

    And what is the source and reason by the magnetic force? And where's Des, still in that pit? And now all these new answers are needed after last night....Two episodes left and seriously explaining to do! The tunnel and the light? Maybe that leads to "across the oceans, a conduit, as it were...oy!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Report abuse |
  288. CDog

    Question - there was an episode earlier in which Jacob and MIB were on the beach, talking, and MIB said he wanted to kill Jacob. To me, that seems like it would be after the events in last night's show. So what gives?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:20 pm | Report abuse |
  289. lastlap

    For those of you who don't think this was planned from the beginning,
    remember Adam & Eve, ALONG WITH THE STONES,were introduced in the first season. So was the manuscript for the novel "Bad Twin". The four survivors left are the same four that Ben kidnapped along about seasons 2-3. You people are so fixated on certain questions you're not looking at the big picture.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:19 pm | Report abuse |
  290. Mike

    Everyone wants answers, but I think the premise of the show, and the mysteries wrapped in it's storyline, are that you can't know everything, and that it is counterproductive to try eventually leading down a path of desparation and evil deeds. People need to accept that answers will come to them in the right way in the right time if they lead a good life. The theme of seeking knowledge that is not intended for you (yet) has many correlaries (Pandora's box as a prime example, and of course Adam and Eve). I think the writers and producers of Lost have wrapped this message in the telling of the story, and it is a bit of a trick on the audience that as viewers focus on finding answers, that perhaps the realization will come as to why it is okay that they will not get them.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:18 pm | Report abuse |
  291. Chad

    For everyone looking for concrete answers, you're not going to get them and that's the point.

    For instance, a question could very well be, what created the cave of light? Well, what if the answer was God? Would that be satisfying? Or just lead to more questions?

    It's like the gentleman earlier who brought up the idea of midichlorians from Star Wars. If I recall, the reason people hated those is because they were used to explain a former mystical force. Fans hated the quantification of the religion.

    The questions the writers have everyone asking are the same questions that have plagued mankind since the beginning of time. And there are no answers to them, only more questions.

    Writers in general never set out to answer the mysteries of the universe. They simply wish to explore the nature of man. They want you to reflect on the effect of good and evil on society and come up with your own answers.

    So stop focusing on the answers the writers will give you, and starting thinking about the answers you can provide yourself.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  292. Al

    Don't you all get it? This was probably prewritten for about 3 seasons when it was awesome then they started trying to extend the story with all kinds of nonsense. So the ending is naturally going to be convoluted.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:17 pm | Report abuse |
  293. djp

    @ vbm95u

    Re: MIB's birthright....wasn't Jacob firstborn ?

    Did'nt fake mom run grab the BLACK blanket for him when he was born ?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Report abuse |
  294. Terry

    In response to Truth: WHAT? Why don't you just go back to your Leave it to Beaver and keep praying we regress back to the 1950s.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:13 pm | Report abuse |
  295. Whitney

    This episode answered a tonn of questions I had! It was definately slower and calmer then the previous episodes, but that made for a good, relaxing night of Lost, instead of being gripped to the end of my seat the whole hour for another week in a row! Don't get my wrong, I love the suspense and everything,but last nights...I loved it, and can't wait for next weeks!!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:12 pm | Report abuse |
  296. djp

    Nice reference to BSG ending someone.

    Lost will end in a similar manner. This has all happened before and this will all happen again.

    MIB will be stuck on the island. A candidate will remain to guard the light... my guess is Jack or Hurley. Desmond goes down that hole we saw....remember he survied the EM blast and do something....(still working on that part)

    the story end largely as it has begun several times already.... we'll see the new guardian protecting the light and people will arrive by accident. MIB will do his smoky thing and once again try to get off the island.

    Great show. I feel like they rushed to the ending. Could have used another 1/2 season at least to drag it out. The naysayers out there should just go back to blogging about other stuff and change the channel if they wish – but they won't.

    Liked the explaination about the bodies Jack found.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  297. Cheri

    I am a faithful fan – never missed a show – and after last night – I dont think the writers of this show could sit down with me, 1 on 1, and answer all of the questions I have in 3.5 hours.

    We will see 🙂

    May 12, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  298. Jackee

    Agree with bn......What a waste ...with only a few more episodes I want more Jack and gang! Yes more answers but I'm fearing I will be disappointed with the whole Ending.........Been a fan since the beginning and am wondering how we will get answers in the last few episodes.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:10 pm | Report abuse |
  299. Ralph

    I actually thought there were good parts to the episode. It certainly added depth to the relationship between Jacob & MIB. I liked the Adam & Eve tie-in. Didn't like Allison Janney as the mom. And the set left much to be desired (didn't mom's clothes seem too permanently pressed??).

    May 12, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  300. Kathy

    I thought in previous shows that had shown the MIB and Jacob sitting on the beach together as adults on several occasions. . I did not recognize Kate, she looked all cleaned up with make up. Confused, but still like it.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:09 pm | Report abuse |
  301. CIRM

    This WAS my favorite show at one point.....but it took a disappointing turn along the way. Like any GREAT show, fans love the characters (which is due to both good casting and writing). It would be a total waste to go on this six year ride and not watch the final epsiodes.....I am hoping for some surprises in the few remaining hours.....

    Was it my imagination that the coming attractions for next week showcased the song "All Along the Watchtower" ??? Check out the lyrics.....maybe Jacob and MIB are the "princes" watching the saints and sinners pass through to the River Styx to their final judgment.....and the two riders (Jack & Sawyer) will be the replacements for Jacob & MIB.....

    May 12, 2010 at 1:08 pm | Report abuse |
  302. Nanci

    Jane, I'm with you. As far as TV goes, its the best hour of my week. I love this show!!!

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  303. Andulamb

    It seems fairly clear that Mother was a smoke monster. How else would she know what would happen if one went into the light, so to speak? Plus, that explains how she made it so her sons could not kill each other, and how she bestowed immortality to Jacob.

    So... She tells Jacob that he is like her now. Did she knight him a smoke monster without his having to go into the light? I don't think so - apparently you can't be a smoke monster without your physical body being dead, and Jacob isn't physically dead.

    I too am still unclear why MIB can't be allowed to leave the island.

    Also, Jacob is supposed to protect the island's light source. But it doesn't really seem like he has been doing a good job, does it? He let Dharma come there and fiddle with it. And he keeps bringing people to the island.

    I am going to stick with my theory that everyone in the island timeline will be killed by MIB. But when everyone in the other timeline finally comes together, they will either find a way to or will just magically be transported to the island timeline. MIB will think he has won, and then BOOM, everyone he thought was dead will suddely reappear and kick his ass.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  304. I. R. AWITERTOO

    How does someone who obviously doesnt watch the show get a blog on CNN about it? Do you not even ask someone who's seen the show to proofread for you before you publish?

    The baby thing, yeah, its been explained ad nauseum. You must have been hiding under several consecutive series of uninhabited rocks to miss the fact that if you get preggers off island, its all good.

    No, smokey and MIB are not two people. Where the hell would you even get this idea? MIB goes in the hole, smokey comes out. Pretty simple right? You might say one is the human side and the other a more etheral aspect, but its pretty clear they originate from the same source.

    OMG. WHO's THAT KID? THE ONE IN WHITE. THAT LOOKS LIKE JACOB. WHO COULD IT BE? I DUNNO! Oh wait, if it looks like a jacob, and smells like a jacob, and walks like a jacob, its probably.... JACOB!

    Also, the deal where Mom says the boys can't "hurt" each other, she means kill, not that they arent able to give each other painful rugburns. Jacob didnt kill MIB, he just made him a little smokier.

    Henry, you should really call your dad and thank him for getting you this job.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  305. JMills

    @Maryland: I think Jack's kids mom is going to end up being Julia.

    Random Thought:
    Could it be that Smokey broke the rules when he killed Jacob? Sure it was Ben who stabbed Jacob but it was Smokey who kicked him in the fire and actually killed him. o0 That's why Jacob is still running around on the island Kid style. BOYAH! =/

    Pretty good episode. Just wish it was longer. I think the only way to end this show is for Hurly to eat the cave with the light inside. Like a twinkie. Mmmmm light filled cave. /drool

    May 12, 2010 at 1:07 pm | Report abuse |
  306. sam

    Also, notice Mother had light hair at the beginning of the episode, then after the boys were born she had dark hair. Huh? Huh?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:06 pm | Report abuse |
  307. Carol

    The light in the cave comes from a "star" that fell to earth that has unusual electromagnetic properties that can warp the space time continuum and alter physical properties as we know them. As humans are wont to do, Mother, and probably anyone else who preceded her, developed a theology to explain the inexplicable. Any scientific advancements, such as the donkey wheel that MIB was constructing, are a threat to that religion. The theme of Lost is faith vs science, and that theme was again played out last night.

    Loved Allison Janney as Mother.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:05 pm | Report abuse |
  308. vbm95u

    I think the MIB is Esau, an allusion to the Hebrew Bible story in which Jacob steals his brother's birthright because he is "chosen."

    May 12, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  309. GeeMoney

    JJ Abrams messed up the last seasons/episodes of Felicity and Alias... there's a good chance he'll mess up LOST, too. At this point in time, I'm thinking that LOST is going to suffer the same fate. It's too bad, though.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:04 pm | Report abuse |
  310. Kayble

    I want to know who Jacob and MIB's father is..........
    Among lots of other questions. But it would be Lost if we all weren't Lost!
    Love the show and will MISS it!

    May 12, 2010 at 1:02 pm | Report abuse |
  311. Barry

    A question came to me last night. How was Ben able to kill Jacob when Jacob had spoken to him first? Remember the statement by Jacob to him – "You don't have to do this". I think there are a lot of inconsistencies this season in relation with seasons past.

    May 12, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  312. Adam

    Mother was the smoke monster before MIB as she knows what happens if you go to the light source since she must have went down into the source herself. She said it is a fate worse than death and was thankful for MIB for releasing her of the burden of being the island's protector. The smoke monster is the true protector of the island by eliminating any unpure or unworthy souls from extinguishing the light source. If the Smoke Monster were to escape the island, it would destroy any unpure souls in the world so they couldn't come to the island. Thoughts/Comments?

    May 12, 2010 at 1:00 pm | Report abuse |
  313. AnnR

    THey could have covered this epidode in just 20 minutes or so and let us see more real answers for our main characters. THe only reveals were the skeletons, and the smoke monster – and how did Jacobs nameless twin (Remember that book "Evil Twin") become smoke monster. One answer and tons more questions. I can't tell you, the time isn't right..... when will it be right? Time is running out folks. THere will be no LOST the movie so the time is right NOW.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:59 pm | Report abuse |
  314. John

    I wanted to see what all the hubbub was about this show, so I crammed the first five seasons into a month of viewing (on Hulu) and could not wait until the 6th season started this year. In retrospect, I wished that I had stopped at that great Season 5 finale - because this season has sucked beyond belief.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  315. Dr. Zaius

    Mother is definitely a smoke monster – why else would she have the strength to slam MIB into the wall at the bottom of the well (130 pnd mother vs 190 pnd MIB?)?. Not to mention destroying the village and filling the well.
    She is also very old – from Egyptian times. That is gleaned from her weavings and from the game that she left for young MIB – that looks like one of the Ancient Egyptian games such as Senet which was a board game that symbolized the struggle of good against evil, or a game called Dogs and Jackals that used a box and ivory and ebony pawns.
    As mentioned above, it is strange that she left a body when she died, but that may just be artistic license since nobody knows what happens to a smokey when you kill it in human form with that "special" knife (likely the one Cain used to kill Abel).

    May 12, 2010 at 12:58 pm | Report abuse |
  316. MCW

    KED – i heard thank you, but before that, right after he stabbed her

    May 12, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  317. Lockesneighbor

    The light in the cave is Marcellus Wallace's soul.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:57 pm | Report abuse |
  318. bn

    BBD, just because his real mother didn't have a name picked out doesn't mean Allison Janney had to keep him nameless for the remainder of his existence. Come on!

    As for the episode being great, I'll whole-heartedly disagree. Yes, it gave us the story of Jacob and MiB but still, it was poorly acted, poorly directed, and the entire 60 minute production looked cheap and awful. Not to mention, it could have been done in a 5 minute flashback and left more time to answer other, more pertinent questions like:

    1) How is it that Jacob can leave the Island but MiB can't?
    2) How does Jacob evolve from the functioning retard seen last night to the omniscient 'God' like person we know from seasons past?
    3) How does this game between Jacob and MiB, (initially started by Jacob thus making him appear to be the bad guy her), involve the candidates and why?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Report abuse |
  319. Jason

    It seems to me that the Smoke Monster is the result of the Man in Black being thrown into the source of the light.

    Maybe what happened is the Man in Black's "soul" and physical body were separated by the light, with the body returning downstream dead and the soul taking the form of a black cloud of smoke (possibly as a result of his "sin" of matricide or because his soul was always "dark", hence being wrapped in black cloth as a child and always wearing black/dark clothes as an adolescent and adult).

    May 12, 2010 at 12:54 pm | Report abuse |
  320. Kris

    I think the mother was both the good (protector of the light) and bad sides (smoke monster) in one person. The new generation is two people.

    The series will end with Locke telling Jack how much he wants to kill him.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:53 pm | Report abuse |
  321. CherylS

    What I meant to say was: It's all going to be happening inside crazy Hurley's head in the mental hospital.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  322. Dave 2

    Lot's of good ideas here about last night's Lost episode. I think that we'll get some kind of answers to the big issues, but a lot of side issues (the statue Jacob lived in, the Others, the numbers in the hatch) will not be answered.

    As to the smoke monster, I thought that makes sense if you think of Jacob's slaying of his brother by using a power of life. The brother just wanted out, Jacob blindly led where his erstwhile mother lead him. Yes, the brother slew the mother, but he was angered by her lies just as Ben was later angered at Jacob. A kind of symmetry exists there.

    Then, when Jacob grabs his brother and uses the source of life energy (waters of life, fountain of youth, similar mythological metaphors) to kill his brother, that fouling creates the smoke monster. I think the smoke monster is the source's perversion from being a life force to being used as a killing tool.

    That monster has to stay on the island because it has a fundamental tie in to all humanity (the light is in all people, if it goes out here, it goes out everywhere). Based on the perversion of the light, the darkness too has a tie in to all humanity. That requires the guardian to keep it Locked up (pun intended).

    Leaving the skeletons & stones. Jacob is now locked in as keeper, against his wishes. He's not the good guy he came across as, rather he's just as weak and manipulative as his adopted mother. The skeletons are the remains of his family, the white & black stones their monument. The smoke monster, born of a crime, can only take on a dead person's shape, so it took on Jacob's brother's shape. Probably to perpetually remind him of his criminal action.

    Just some thoughts, be interesting to see if they pan out.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:51 pm | Report abuse |
  323. Jeremy

    here is my theory. Mom is a smoke monster. She tells the boys that one of them will need to protect the light source from people who are after it. All indications are the she prefers MIB to be protector over Jacob, but MIB leaves home to live with his people.

    Because she cannot get MIB to voluntarily become the protector (and convert into smoke monster), she devises a plan by which she can get Jacob to turn MIB into the smoke. When Jacob sees his brother kill his mother, he throws him into the light source, thinking that he is killing him, but actually doing what his mother wanted the entire time-to have the MIB become the smoke monster/protector of the island.

    The "candidates" are not candidates to replace Jacob, but candidates to replace MIB by becoming the new smoke monster. Jacob is just stuck there playing a game with his brother.

    If the protector must stay on the island forever, and Jacob is the protector, than how is it that he can come and go at will (as seen in all his interactions with the candidates).

    May 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  324. sam

    Good episode, if you want to think about things and not have them spelled out for you. All kinds of mythological and Biblical allusions here. Even some Oedipal issues between Jacob and Mother. Look up Zeus's sons Prometheus, Epimetheus, and Atlas – all kinds of parallels. Jesus/Lazarus/Judas/Purgatory references are everywhere. Draw your own conclusions.The whole thing is like listening to late 60's Dylan – the dude was saying some heavy stuff but nothing was straight forward and everyone had their own interpretation.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  325. CherylS

    It's all going to be happening inside cracz Hurley's head in the mental hpsoital.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  326. Ken

    Yes, disappoint for the most part. Nothing interesting was really answered. Just more questions with 2 episodes left.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:50 pm | Report abuse |
  327. Janet

    I was very disappointed in Allison Janney's performance. She's a talented actress but her acting in this role seemed amateurish. Her lines were stilted and the two young sons spoke as if they were in today's world. Very awkward, I thought.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
  328. jill

    Loved it.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:49 pm | Report abuse |
  329. Jon

    The writers know exactly what they are doing. Look at all the stuff they have planted in the first 5 yrs. Different books, glimpses of photos, all kinds of stuff. If you don't think they know what they are doing then you are the stupid one. You could never be a candidate.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:47 pm | Report abuse |
  330. Q

    I don't think I am satisfied with the answers at all. Finding out that Jacob & MIB are brothers is really insignificant. The mystery behind Lost are the island's powers and why the people are chosen, not who exactly the people are or where they are from.

    For those who say Smokey appeared as the dead mom, you forget that Jacob could not see her, so this is likely incorrect. Everyone can see Lock.

    Hurley can see dead Jacob, Sawyer can see young Jacob, but everyone can see Smokey when it takes over a body.

    Answering "Adam & Eve" is not answering one of the "top 5 Lost mysteries" as a previous comnmenter has noted. Finding out who they were doesn't give meaning to anything else.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
  331. UPlplRrDCuLous

    Oh my! Such negativity! Of course we won't get all the answers prior to the finale – then what would be left to watch? True of fans of LOST are not whining about missing details and unanswered questions. We are patiently – OK, perhaps IMpatiently – waiting for May 23 when everything comes together. Relax, people...just enjoy.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:46 pm | Report abuse |
  332. Hyperbole

    Observer: head out to some other forums. People enjoy the show and are trying to put together the mystery of it. Yes, bad things happen in real life. Yes, they truly are tragic... but I, for one, don't go around all day everyday beating myself up about the sad state of affairs the world is in. Everyone needs a break now and again, and for many, that is watching a television series.

    You every think that maybe...
    Just maybe...
    The only person you whip up into a righteous fury is yourself? Productive, isn't it? You need to relax. Unless you're down in the gulf cleaning up the mess personally, you have no place harping on people here because they are discussing a television show.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:45 pm | Report abuse |

    I didn't mind the episode, however this whole time we have always though MIB and smokey were the same person now I am not so sure. I would like to think they are the same thing (smokey just being MIB soul released ) because if it is not it throws a lot of other stuff off and out the window.

    I did love the reference of how MIB as a child told Jacob one day he could make up his own game and rules. VERY RELEVANT

    I am sad that this show is ending.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:43 pm | Report abuse |
  334. Crystal

    There was 1 baby conceived on the island & delivered on the island. Remember when Sawyer, Juliet & the others were back in the 70s w/ the Dharma group. The leader's wife gave birth on the island & conceived on the island because Julia helped deliver her.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:42 pm | Report abuse |
  335. Uvantha

    I think Jacob got a whole lot of knowledge and immortality when he drank from the bottle. He knew what he was doing to his brother when he pushed him in the source(not killing but assigning a task)! What I keep wondering is does smokey need a live John Locke body in the new timeline to leave the island? I think mother needed a replacement (she was weary of being the keeper and protector) and when the pregnant woman arrived she knew she had a replacement. When she had twins, Mother realized she could split the duties of Keeper and Protector. The protector cannot leave the island and is burdened with the souls of those it has destroyed and has a thirst for knowledge and freedom. The Keeper knows all and is content on the island because it knows what the alternative. The keeper no longer grows weary because it is relieved of the duties of the protector and guilt associated with killing those who endanger the light/source. Only a candidtate chosen as a potential replacement for the Keeper could harm the keeper (Ben). The protector cannot directly harm the protector or candidates.

    make any sense?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Report abuse |
  336. M.R. in L.A.

    It's hard to asses the value of this episode at this point. Immediately it feels like a bit of a deviation off the main path of the tale of our beloved castaways. But, with only 3 1/2 hours left until the end of this epic story, some crucial pieces of knowledge may have been imparted and their value will only become clear once all the final pieces fall into place.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
  337. Wesley B

    "People shouldn't diss the show until it's completely finished. Just take these episodes for what they are. I'm sure in the end we'll have answers. Probably not all of them, but maybe we're not supposed to. It's a show that makes us think & use our MINDS for once. Those are a rarity these days."

    I'll only buy that if the answers we don't get are not structural, but moral or spiritual in nature. Yes, we should be left with some answers that we must provide ourselves, but these lingering questions should be in the form of moral quandary, ethical gray areas, spiritual questing, intellectual second-guessing, and logical supposition, NOT in the form of structural (even crucial) plot elements that just aren't properly explained. That's just lazy writing and the writers shouldn't be forcing us to use our minds just so that they can get away with not fully using their own.

    Fact is, they announced the end date to this show like 3 years ago. They long knew it was coming and they should have answered more technical questions in preparation, even if they do plan to leave us with the more esoteric ones.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:39 pm | Report abuse |
  338. 'Mats Fan

    "Lost" has secured its place as the most disappointing, silly, and worst show of all time. This episode was simplay pathetic. Pathetic.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  339. Eliseo

    Did you notice that after the mother gives birth to the twins she still looks as pregnant as before? If you give birth to twins (and each of them looked like 10 lbs+ to me) you would think that her belly would go down at least a bit. This reveals to me that this episode was rushed and put together (as well as the script) at the last minute.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Report abuse |
  340. just me

    Doesn't anyone remember "Bad Twin" by 'Gary Troup'!?!?!?!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:36 pm | Report abuse |
  341. David

    SOOOO glad I stopped watching this POS of a show years ago. What a joke!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:35 pm | Report abuse |
  342. Tony

    SPOILER ALERT: The final scene will be MIB, Jacob and Jack sitting in a diner waiting for Claire to arrive while some lame 80s tune plays on the jukebox.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:34 pm | Report abuse |
  343. Cat

    Has everyone forgotten that Dharma people gave birth on the island? It wasn't until after the purge of Dharma the problems with pregnancies started. Which is why Ben brought Juliet to the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:33 pm | Report abuse |
  344. Teri

    This episode was not necessary to me. Let's get back to all the characters we love and get some answers. Do you think they will provide us with closure?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  345. JCX

    This obviously ends with Bobby Ewing waking up and realizing it was all a dream.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Report abuse |
  346. laurictd

    Did you people even watch the whole series so far? What do you mean "I didn't understand Jack & Kate coming in at the end.."??? It was a scene from season 1! I'm glad to see that they're tying in some mysteries that were brought up way in the beginning. It isn't the current Jack & Kate storyline that we have been following. At least that makes it seem like they had this planned since the beginning, & it wasn't made up on the spot like a lot of the last couple seasons seemed to be.

    People shouldn't diss the show until it's completely finished. Just take these episodes for what they are. I'm sure in the end we'll have answers. Probably not all of them, but maybe we're not supposed to. It's a show that makes us think & use our MINDS for once. Those are a rarity these days.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  347. Dharmacyst

    I didn't read all the comments as there are way too many, but we have seen a birth conceived and delivered on island...Ethan, remember? Well...we were lead to believe he was conceived on Island. This episode was a bit of a let down, sure we saw the point when the Smoke Monster was born and who Adam and Eve are, but it could have been so much more....Just let poor Nameless leave the island already.... Love LOST regardless....

    May 12, 2010 at 12:30 pm | Report abuse |
  348. C

    I thought it was a really weak episode considering that it is one of the last episodes and I'm a huge Lost fan so that is a little hard for me to say. Hopefully, the last 3.5 hours make up for this and I'm sure they will.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:29 pm | Report abuse |
  349. A

    Also...we are forgetting that Ben was born on the island, wasn't he? 😉 I don't think that has a ton to do with the overall plot/mystery of the island. I think this is a classic story of Good and Evil, the origin of human life (which is in constant debate and always will be and won't be concluded on a television show), and in the end the viewer will have to create his/her own conclusions to an extent. Some of my favorite bands/artists don't include written lyrics with their album bc they want the listener to interpret it on their own. I think Lost is going to be somewhat the same. It's like in any (truly) scary are the most scared when your own imagination is at work. Once you see the "monster" it's just lame bc a manifestation of someone else's monster is on screen and not your own. A good example of this is the movie "Signs." I loved that movie up until the point you saw the gooey green goblin. Thereafter the movie sucked.
    Whatever happens in the next 3 hours is going to be awesome!!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Report abuse |
  350. JL

    It's obvious to me that the writer(s) believed the show would be canceled before the end, thus avoiding the need to make up for the fact that it NEVER made sense and NEVER will. I call it bad writing.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:26 pm | Report abuse |
  351. Ken B

    Why do people praise shows that are simple? Why do people want to be fed answers instead of thinking independently or using there own imagination? Mystery and intrigue are fun. Watch the show for entertainment, not the meaning of life.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Report abuse |
  352. KED

    Many of the original people on the plane were in the temple. Essentially, everyone on the island has been killed off by either smokey or Widmore's explosives, save the essential characters. I enjoyed Eco, as have many others, but just like many of the other characters, some have had to die. I mean quite honestly, people are already complaining about why we haven't seen Ben or Richard in the last few episodes. Could you imagine if we had to keep up with everyone introduced in seasons 1 & 2? They took children because no one can have children of their own. That was answered seasons ago.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  353. Maryland

    All I care about now is having the following questions answered, can be by you guys, or by the writers of the show:

    -Why did the smoke monster leave Mr. Eko alone?
    -Who is the Mother of Jack's son? (He looks a lot like Kate...)
    -What is the signifigance of the children? The first ones that were taken from the plane crash (Where are they now?) Walt? Aaron? The young Jacob/kid in the woods? Is Sun's daughter of any signifigance? Why did they introduce a son for Jack?
    -What is Mr. Whitmore's role in all this? Who is he?

    -And for the love of God...what happened to Vincent the dog?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Report abuse |
  354. Shears

    I have it on good word that right before we get to an epic, climactic exposition in the last episode, the scene will fade to black with "Don't Stop Believing" playing in the background.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  355. Michael

    The biggest problem with this episode is that it was a storytelling cheat. Up until now, answers to questions have come to us as the main characters discover them. This week we simply got an hour's worth of backstory arbitrarily thrown at us, seemingly for no better reason than that there aren't many episodes left and the writers couldn't figure out a more organic way for this stuff to have been revealed in the central storyline. What we now know about the Man in Black, we didn't learn because Jack or anyone else learned it, but only because someone behind the scenes said "we'd better explain this." Awkward and disappointing.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:21 pm | Report abuse |
  356. Wesley B

    This week's episode was 40% interesting, 30% confusing, and 30% infuriating.

    The writers KNOW the fans want answers, so with 2 whole episodes to go what do they do? Introduce totally new unexplained characters and elements (godlike mother figure, mysterious glowing pool that is "the source"), make unexplained statements ("I've fixed it so that you can never hurt each other." Wait, what? "Fixed it?" How? Why? With what?), "answer" things without actually providing answers (so falling in a glowing pool turns people into smoke monsters–how and why does that work again?), and answer some niggling mysteries (what were those two stones from Season 1) while leaving MAJOR mysteries still lingering and untouched.

    It is an interesting show for what it is. Always has been. But this episode greatly lowered my expectations for any sort of satisfying conclusion to the story. I'll finish out because I'm too close to quit now, but after most of this season I really don't expect much from it, either.

    I suspect at this point that the writers and producers started with a good idea, got in over their heads, and will now take the cop out "well we didn't *really* ever want or intend to provide all the answers so that you'll always have something to think and debate about" angle in order to save face and maintain their "mysterious storytellers" persona.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Report abuse |
  357. Stu

    So what happened to the original people on the plane that were left on the beach. Also, there was a big point of the "Others" taking the children in the first season, what was that about? What was the point of the whole story of Eco? There are no finales, only failures. You would think after the writer's strike we would get quality scripts, but apparently not. Weeds is the only thing that makes sense and at least "Life" had a point. Bring back "Life".

    May 12, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  358. Hans

    I stopped watching the show in the second season, but have followed enough of plot developments to know that the longer it went the more stupidly complex it got. I'm glad I dropped it when I did; it would have been a great letdown to invest a lot of watching and speculating time without any satisfying answers.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:17 pm | Report abuse |
  359. Bryan

    What's Lost? Heh heh. Just kidding.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:15 pm | Report abuse |
  360. Johnny Dangerously

    Allison Janney = bad casting. I never watched West Wing so I thought Mother was played by a no-name actress. My first impression was that she landed on the island from a trailer park. I don't know if Mother should have a certain look, but I wasn't buying trailer trash as a mystical power.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  361. Ken B

    I'v determined that no matter how they end the show, some of you will not be satisfied. Instead of just taking the show for what it is and not reading to much into it, you get upset and rant about not knowing the answers to the questions. Do you know all the answers to all the questions in the world? Just take this show for what it is. A good scifi show that entertains. Absolutly love this show, and will be happy with any ending they come up with. Even if it leaves a million questions un answered. Thats what scifi is all about.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  362. KED

    I don't think the island needs a MIB. It seems as if that was more or less happenstance, with Jacob being angry at his brother for killing their pseudomom. The question is, can MIB be eliminated now that he exists – perhaps only with complete destruction of the island.

    I still think the parallel storyline is what will become of Oceanic 6. There are two parallel timelines occuring, misplaced by a few years in time, everyone on the island has to die, the island destroyed, leaving the Oceanic 6 to their new lives, never having crashed on the island to begin with, but all understanding (thanks to Desmond) that their lives are connected with this deja vu sense of their time on the island, that to them never happened. It puts the island under the ocean as we saw in this season's first episode and is compatible with the island being there after last season's explosion.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  363. Mark

    So now we know the origins of Jacob & MIB, and are presented with a new question: Where did "Mother" come from, and who enabled her powers???

    It never ends... and there's only 3 & 1/2 hours left of the show.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:14 pm | Report abuse |
  364. Mavent

    Can't this moronic show just DIE already?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  365. friedmegg

    People seem to forget. When the mother said Jacob and his brother can't leave or do anything she said SHE made it that way. Once she was gone, JACOB had the power. At the point MIB was toast because now he had the power to hurt him, and to leave the island which we have seen. My guess is we will see the two of them laying out what the rules of the "Current" game are, and that will answer alot of the questions to why are people there and such

    May 12, 2010 at 12:13 pm | Report abuse |
  366. Foshee

    Linda – when id showed Jack, Kate and Locke it was a "flash" to the first season when they found the cave that they all lived in for a while.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  367. Sarah

    "So we quite clearly saw a birth (actually, two) on the island. When did these stop? I believe that we have yet to be told why no one was able to give birth on the island for a while, at least prior to Claire."

    I was under the impression that if women got pregnant "off" the island they can give birth on the island, its only when they get pregnant "on" the island that they would die during the 3rd trimester. I think Juliet said something along the lines that the island has an effect on conception while on the island. But if conception takes place off the island it has no effect. Thats why Claire was ok to have the baby but not Sun (which I terribly miss)

    May 12, 2010 at 12:12 pm | Report abuse |
  368. BamaLostie

    I think the revelation of Adam and Eve proves that the writers have had all of this planned out from the beginning. They obviously had the back story b/w MIB and Jacob planned out all along, otherwise they wouldn't have planted mystery skeletons in the cave and had us guessing all these years as to who those people were.

    Every LOST fan has had theories that Adam and Eve are either Bernard and Rose, Sun and Jin or any of the other Losties. I thought it was great that the writers threw everyone off with the skeletons being MIB and Mother. Not once have I ever read people speculating that the skeletons belonged to the MIB and his mother. GREAT surprise in my opinion and an awesome answer to a question we've had for 6 seasons now. I don't think anyone saw that coming.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  369. JackoB

    This whole show seems like a big inside joke on the people who were on the inside... I'll wait for the finale and see if it's something I'd want to waste my time on.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  370. elogetur

    I think that it is important to realize that Jacob did not want to leave the island. For everyone who thinks that anyone besides Jack is Jacob's replacement is crazy, because the show has always been about Jack. I think that Locke was potentially Jacob's replacement in the beginning because he wanted to stay on the island, while everyone else wanted to leave. But now that Locke is dead, and Jack is the only one who wants to stay-leaving him as Jacob's replacement. I think that Jack was the second choice for being Jacob's replacement just like Jacob was the second choice to his brother.

    The only question that I really have from last night is how did MIB create a body like image of himself. We learned last night that he did actually die, but he is still able to create an image of his body (as well as Lockes body). We know that he did not just inhabit the the bodies, because the tangible body of MIB, Locke, Jack's father were all discovered as corpses. So I am just not sure how he is taking the image of people while leaving the corpses behind.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:11 pm | Report abuse |
  371. Patrick Healey

    To Robert Fornier... Thanks, our weekly group forged that model – so i can't claim full credit.

    Where I was going was that there were two "Brothers" in the end. The dead one killed by the mom, and the smoke minster assuming his form (because he was dead and we know it can do that).

    We really like the theory – but we wonder if it will ever be explained. There is only like three hours left of the show!

    It may be one of those "its all there figure it out" things.

    They may have answered all they are going to answer on that front hope not – but wouldn't be surprised.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:10 pm | Report abuse |
  372. Picole

    I hate to tell everyone this...but none of this matters. The show is going to end with Desmond finding out that Ben killed Polly, thus losing his "constant," which will cause him to begin jumping through time again, and he'll find himself back at the moment where he turned the key and caused flight 815 to crash. This time he'll choose not to turn the key, the island will implode and land at the bottom of the ocean (remember that shot of the island underwater in the first episode this season?), and the plane will continue onto to LAX and land safely. The rest of this season has been spent explaining that even though they won’t have the history of the island and be friends, they’ll still be inexplicably linked and continually bump into each other and become friends that way…without all the horrors from the island linking them. Typical happy Hollywood ending. As for the statue, the smoke monster, the pulse of light, the polar bear, the Dharma shark (remember him?)…all that stuff is simply the makers of the show messing with you…not everything has to mean something….

    May 12, 2010 at 12:09 pm | Report abuse |
  373. KED

    She said "Thank you."

    May 12, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Report abuse |
  374. danp

    i stopped watching lost 2 years ago. it was a fun and interesting story but my sense was that the creators and writers would struggle to come up with an earth shattering, tie everything together, answer all questions final season. they obviously started with a cool concept but were clearly creating on the fly as the series became popular and was renewed. in real life, we don't know the answers to many cosmic questions. the material covered in lost is thought provoking and it definitely covers topic(s) that are fascinating to us. the creators are "trying" to hard to come up with a big bang finish so that the true fans don't feel as if they have wasted their time. if you are still watching, enjoy the hard work and "creativity" deployed by the folks behind the show. don't set expectations too high as this will cause disappointment. enjoy it for what it is – pretty good tv.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |

    @Rachel: I believe That James and Jack are both candidate for Good and Evil. Either Jack or James will be the man in black or the candidate for Jacob's replacement

    May 12, 2010 at 12:06 pm | Report abuse |
  376. Stu Padasso

    The whole series of LOST was a communist conspiracy fueled by the Al Queida fanatics who were hopped up on opium from Afganistan and the the drunken Islamic radicals who ate too much bacon on their cheesburgers, washed down with purple koolaid!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
  377. 2centhag

    So, gang is Jacob good or evil?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Report abuse |
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  379. Rev

    -What about the prophecy that if Aron is raised by anybody else other than Claire will have dangerous consequences? Which btw, Kate has already done.
    – Why this secrecy about Locke's father?
    -What happens to the parallel lives of the Oceanic six?
    -Who is Jack's wife in the parallel life?
    -Where is Ben and Richard?
    -What abt the change in concept abt Smokey who was first told to be the security system and now it is the MIB all of a sudden.?
    -When smokey can travel everywhere why can't he do so and kill Widmore himself?
    – Why did Widmore capture Sawyer and group when he promised to let them go?

    May 12, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
  380. KED

    There's three "sides" now to this upcoming conflict. What last night's episoded answered indirectly for me was, if Ben was supposedly pro-Jacob and engaged in a constant battle with Widmore over the island, why is Widmore anti-MIB? But the answer is simple, there's Jacob as protector of the island, not from MIB but from people like Widmore who want the islands powers. And then there's MIB who I now truly believes just wants off the island and will do anything to achieve it. Maybe because MIB, originated out of the source, then that's why he needs to be contained on the island.

    MIB's mom said "thank you" when she was killed. Jacob let Ben kill him and also described the island as hellish to Richard. I think the wine bestows eternal life to whoever drinks it. Now Jacob is like mom, now Richard like Jacob, etc. So I think she was thanking MIB from releasing her from the "hell" of eternal life guarding the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Report abuse |
  381. James

    One of the best episodes yet!

    May 12, 2010 at 12:02 pm | Report abuse |
  382. Jumpedtheshark

    I have been disappointed this whole season. Every since they started the flash sideways business. In my opinion this was all done to throw a bone to cast members that were killed off in earlier episodes. Lets bring them back and give them some more air time. Also this kills time when you do not have enough of a storyline left to complete a whole season. "Every question I answer will simply lead to another question." is the only thing that has been said has made any sense this season.

    May 12, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Report abuse |
  383. MCW

    I thought it was a top ten episode. Right after MIB stabbed Mother, she said something that sounded like huh-thhey, or Jose, som MIB is now Jose.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  384. Okie Joe

    The Observer...relax. Let's not take the John McCain approach to life.

    We have the capacity to enjoy entertaining TV and still be concerned about the real problems going on around us.

    Give it try. It can only help.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:59 am | Report abuse |
  385. pow woww

    ok hold your horse, you will like this one. the real name of the MIB................ IS........ AARON. thats why he dont kill claire. remember when she didnt come up with baby names, and she went into the woods, i think the mib suggest this name to her. jacob vs MIB IS the same as WHITMORE VS BEN.( they too cant kill each other). jacob was a whinner just like ben. ( no special gifts) whitmore just like MIB.( WHITMORE can see in the future). all this island is about is the cycle of life, and which games come with it. we all know jack will not accept the roll of protector of the island, because in the first scene the island is dead out flooded. the light has burned out. so juliet was successful with the bomb( future) but she is the reason why women couldnt have babies on the island( due to radical exposure to the nuclear bomb waste) WHITEMORE always want to have the island back but he broke one of the rules had a baby with an outsider( penny's mom).

    May 12, 2010 at 11:58 am | Report abuse |
  386. paulrkiii

    Of course they can't answer everything, they can't make a Lost movie if everything is answered....

    May 12, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  387. B Guy

    Wahhhhhh I don't like it wahhhhhh.

    Oh well, I for one do. Cry me a river, the world does not revolve around you. The show is a sci fi and it was from the pilot episode. Not EVERYTHING is going to be answered. Certain things CAN'T be explained in a logical world where mysticism and religion are just a fragment of our imagination. Hence why a lot of the mysticism of lost will be left to just that, a fragment of our imagination. Did you not know what you were getting yourself into by investing hours into a SCI FI series? Get real people.

    Still, for you babies: The producers said the monster will be explained in the final episode.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  388. Michael

    With just less than two weeks to go, there are still so many questions we have for this show that we love so much. "Across the Sea" gave some good answers – I thought the Adam & Eve and creation of the monster were interesting and good, but as a whole, the episodes this season have failed to tie everything together. Last night was no exception. There is so much left to explain, and so many loose ends to tie up- how are they going to give us all these answers in just 2 episodes? I’m starting to get very, very nervous-

    May 12, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  389. cobrisco

    Ashes keep smokie away. Remember the others always wanted the deads' bodies? When theirs where shot by Sawyer to protect ethan's mom? The Others required the bodies to be given back by Dharma. They probably burn it and use the ashes to keep Smokie away. Hurley has Jacob's ashes. Otherwise if is not ashed, he may be able to take your body? Also, why jacob allowed dharma to be on island? So that they could do the work of building stations for him, then he had all killed by Ben and took over after that, so he could now hang out off island meeting the losties? Whatever!!!!!!!!!! Didn't like the episode.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:57 am | Report abuse |
  390. Jessica

    I really enjoyed this episode. I do feel it provided some answers, like where Jacob and the MIB came from. I found it interesting they made them twins, and from the very first Jacob was clothed in white or bright clothing and MIB was wrapped in a dark blanket and wore black or dark clothing throughout his childhood. Good touch.

    I was shocked when Allison Janney's "Mother" character killed their Mother. How terrible. And how did "Mother" know these were the boys, that these were her "replacements" for the island?

    I noticed and pointed out to my husband that "Mother" never aged throughout the show, even as the boys grew and 30 years passed, a time reference both MIB and Jacob mentioned.

    The fact that the writers/producers went back and referenced episode six of the show when Jack and Kate found the Adam and Eve skeletons, and Jack found the black and white stones, makes me think, heck, maybe they have had a plan, a vision, all along for the show, and known where it's going to go, instead of free-wheeling it all along as we've thought. I also noticed in the moment Jack found the black and white stones, Locke appeared immediately after. Is that a hint as to who the two new people playing the stone game will be?

    "Mother" said she made it so the boys could never hurt one another, well, that clearly isn't the case. But, they obviously cannot KILL one another, as their on going battle through the years has shown. It was interesting that both Jacob and MIB both went through a change in this episode- Jacob by drinking the wine and MIB by becoming the smoke monster. My guess about the light on the island, is that when Jacob threw his brother into the light it spit him back out and changed him because it sensed he was evil.

    And finally, I think the MIB has no name on the show because it's another correlation to religion; people call the Devil by so many names, and giving evil a name will be like calling evil forth. I still see so many parallels between Jacob as a Christ-like or deity-like figure and MIB as his opposite, as evil, as the Devil.

    My husband said he's still having a hard time ascertaining if the MIB is really evil at all, because all he wanted was more knowledge and he was rebuffed and held on the island against his will. I think that Mother kept Jacob and MIB away from the "new" others on the Island because she wanted them to be pure, she didn't want them to be swayed or changed or become impure when they were exposed to human failings, like the "new" others' greed for the light. And we saw this after MIB had lived with them for 30 years, all he wanted was the light, and once he wanted to do bad with it, he could no longer find it.

    Hawkeye, your point #2 is EXACTLY what I told my husband while we were watching it. When Jacob took the glass I said it's like "the blood of Christ" in the Catholic church, when they hand you the wine.

    I'm anxious to get back to Jack and company next week and Sawyer's reaction to the loss of Jin and Sun and Sayid. And I'm anxious to buy this show on DVD and watch the seasons close together to remind myself of all that's happened. Great episode.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:56 am | Report abuse |
  391. Steve

    "And from that would come the familiar sounds... and a burst of smoke. (Note that all three main characters here committed at least one murder.)"

    I don't think Jacob killed his brother. I think he just knocked him out and sent him into the light. His 'mother' said that the light does not kill you, but does something worse.

    "So we quite clearly saw a birth (actually, two) on the island. When did these stop? I believe that we have yet to be told why no one was able to give birth on the island for a while, at least prior to Claire."

    I believe it is that children can not be conceived on the island.

    "Jacob and the Man in Black were supposedly unable to hurt each other but that was clearly not the case, even after Jacob drank the wine."

    I believe that they just can't kill each other. They obviously can hurt each other just fine.

    "Oh yeah, there's also the matter of a freaking huge statue and how it got there. "

    Speculation – I believe that the time frame for this episode was pre-Roman, and that the statue hadn't been built yet. I think Roman-era people arrived at the island 'accidently' and built it. And then post-Roman people came and built the lighthouse, or at least helped Jacob construct it. I think 'others' continually arrive on the island and then die off or discover a way to leave.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:55 am | Report abuse |
  392. I_wonder

    I wonder if the creators and writers had all this in mind from the start or if they have been making it up as we go along.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:54 am | Report abuse |
  393. The Observer

    Oh and hey.
    It isn't like I don't know that most of these comments about
    the series 'Lost' is coming from well paid

    May 12, 2010 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  394. Stephen

    Ethan was both conceived and born on the island. There is no problem with the babies until after 74. Sorry if someone already mentioned this.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:52 am | Report abuse |
  395. Jennifer P

    I kept reflecting on the biblical account of Jacob and Esau during last night's episode. Any takers?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  396. Rick

    So sick of hearing people complain about the answers when they come. Get a life and just enjoy the show for what it was meant to be, and stop complaining that you don't like the answers and explanations.

    Also, Man in Black and Smokey are essentially the same. Clearly Smoke Monster can take the form of whoever it wants that is dead– so why wouldn't he take on his original form as Man in Black even though his body is dead and in a cave with Mom.

    Evil Locke who we all agree is Smoke Monster even told us his origin about is dead mother this why are people thinking they are different????

    May 12, 2010 at 11:51 am | Report abuse |
  397. Phil

    Lost is still on TV?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  398. Jon

    Who ever watched the stupid West Wing?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:50 am | Report abuse |
  399. Regan

    I liked the episode, but I am waiting to render judgment on the whole thing once we've gone thru the last 3.5 hours of the show.

    We can't judge it until it's over – who knows whether or not something we barely noticed is a huge deal until the curtain falls...

    Having said that...I liked the episode, but I am...a bit concerned.....

    May 12, 2010 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  400. The Observer

    My grandfather was right!
    Common sense isn't commone anymore.
    Wait till you go to get a drink of water and black oil
    comes out of your faucets!

    Dumb as a fruitcake you all are!

    May 12, 2010 at 11:49 am | Report abuse |
  401. Jim T

    The mysteries are: What makes these people "special" and able to manipulate time and such? This episdoe told nothing about that. On the surface it showed a regular island with a cave of light.

    How did MIB know that electro mag could get him off the island? SPeaking of MIB if he was from off island then where from and why not be able to just build a boat and sail away? Do we assume he tried all the normal ways?

    I still don't understand why all this other stuff ever took place on the island. Why build something that you had to key in numbers every 108 minutes? Why Dharma? Why not destroy and kill all those people and be done.

    Speaking of killing from what we know what is the estimated body count on the island?

    I keep saying all along that not many answers will come on the finale. Just wait for the movieS.

    In fact a good starting point for the first movie is the flash sideways and Desmond getting all the passengers back together....then they end up on Gilligan's Island.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  402. Jon

    Mommy is a smokie. She been in that water before. She is really the one that has to protect the Island from people that continue to come and try to use the island for a selfish porpose. Jacob can't let smokie get off the island because he is the only one that can keep the selfish people from trying to harness it and destroy the world. Mama smokie killed old day darma. Ben been in the water, killed new day darma.

    The "Light Cave" is where they are going to build the temple. I noticed that when MIB was put into the "Light Cave" that it went dark for a moment. At one point the the water in the temple went murky as well but was never restored to its original form.
    Sawyer sure sounds an awful lot like MIB the way he talks about getting off the Island. My prediction is Sawyer and Jack in the end on the beach.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:48 am | Report abuse |
  403. Regan

    I still think the pregnancy issues are related to the radiation from the hydrogen bomb, as it seems that only the others had problems having kids, and the issues were only pointed out during the time the bomb was leaking radioactivity.

    I think if a pregnant woman was around the radioactivity for 9 months, they die.

    No other fertility issues were reported during other time periods; although the conception location argument works just as well.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:47 am | Report abuse |
  404. JR

    My family has nearly religiously watched this show since day one – we love this show – but we all agreed lastnight that somewhere down at the bottom of that cave, possibly near the source of light, is possibly a shark and a motorcycle ramp.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  405. Okie Joe

    My biggest question is about the alternative life line of those that didn't crash on the island. It seems like their pre-flight life line was changed by the writers when compared to the early seasons (or maybe I just remembered them incorrectly?).

    From this I started to think that the writers where just making things up as they go, even changing story lines. While I still think this is true when it comes to the alternative life line, last night's episode showed they do have a clear path (beginning to end) on some parts of the story line. The Adam and Eve skeletons and the rocks show this clearly. I was however insulted that the creators of the show thought that we needed the flash back (flash forward?) to when the skeletons where originally found in the cave in the season one.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:46 am | Report abuse |
  406. CN

    So much about the light and all the righteous people, are the writters into Kabbalah?

    I did like this episode, then again I am bias and have liked them all! I also need more answers and hope they present them in manner which will make it all clear to even the dimest bulb.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:45 am | Report abuse |
  407. The Observer

    Did you ever stop to think that maybe
    just maybe..
    somebody wants your attention diverted by these stupid shows
    so the majority of the population won't see
    the REAL destruction coming upon us?


    May 12, 2010 at 11:43 am | Report abuse |
  408. me

    I thought I heard "mother" call MIB Jose as she was dying. Did anyone else catch this?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  409. Kevin

    As far as the whole not having babies thing, wasn't that because there was a nuclear warhead leaking radiation right under the others camp (where all the failed pregnancies happened)?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:40 am | Report abuse |
  410. Jane

    FOLKS! This is what they call 'entertainment'. It is not real life...It is simply one of the best, thought provoking, exciting, capricious, well acted, well written shows ever.....A complete joy.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
  411. The Observer


    You know!
    A storytale..fiction..all just for entertainment!

    While the real earth is going to hell in a handbasket
    oil gushing by the millions of gallons!
    1/3 of the animal species going extinct!
    volcano eruptions! poisoned waters dying fish!

    You guys are upset about a STUPID SHOW????

    Wake up people!!

    May 12, 2010 at 11:39 am | Report abuse |
  412. TheDarqueOne

    I wish I had time to run a Poll. What I wonder is how many people expect to be happy with the ending of Lost? The simplist trick in the world is to keep throwing mysteries at people and only dribble out the answers. You don't even need a real story you can just make it up as you go.

    The people who make Lost have actually ADMITTED that they have been doing this since the beginning. Sure they had some sort of framework idea but after that they just tossed stuff out.

    The purpose of a TV show is to get people to watch the Ads. Lost worked, it has had amazing ratings and the Advertisers are pleased as punch.Creators, Actors and Fans love to talk about TV Shows as if they were Art but they really are not.

    I don't watch broadcast TV anymore and have watched Lost a season at a time on Netflix. It has been fun. But unlike so many others I have never expected to be pleased with the ending. The downside to playing the mystery game for 6 years is that when you get to the end you need something really good for the final answers.

    I never expect that from a TV show and I have never seen it. If you have enjoyed the show then you got what you paid for.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:38 am | Report abuse |
  413. Edgy

    Interesting shoutout to Allison Janney: the boys' real mother said her name was Claudia. Janney was Claudia Jean (CJ) Cregg on The West Wing.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
  414. Will

    If you find the show such a should have stopped watching long ago. The show's strength is character development and character studies. I'm sure the science/mythology is not going to make complete sense in the end. I can't think of a single science fiction or fantasy show or movie in which the science really makes that much sense. Usually it is just a vehicle to carry the characters through the plot. Lost is no different.
    If you don't like Lost, I'm not sure why you watch or take the time to comment on this article.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:36 am | Report abuse |
  415. ivan

    I was unimpressed with last nights episode – let's hope the finale is better

    May 12, 2010 at 11:34 am | Report abuse |
  416. Otey

    How can people complain about the show being made up as it goes? All shows are that way! You think that writers, before they get on TV, have every single episode of every single season written down? Hardly....I'm sure they had their opening and ending ideas, and everything along the way is the challenge and fun to write out how to get from one to the other. I love this show more than any show I've seen. There is no way you could expect the writers to have all 6 seasons worth of episodes planned from day 1, thats what makes it so exciting, the unknown! I think maybe those who are complaining about the writing are just having a hard time coming to grips with the show ending?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:33 am | Report abuse |
  417. Nick

    I can't believe no one's pointed out the Bad Twin story from season one. Hurley found that manuscript in the discarded luggage. Sounds pretty relevant now.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  418. BamaLostie

    I haven't had time to read all the comments so my apologies if this has already been mentioned...

    Did anyone else notice that the knife MIB used to kill Mother was the same knife Dogen gave Sayid to kill MIB/Locke with??

    @R made a comment earlier that maybe Mother was smoke monster too, considering she somehow managed to kill an entire village of people with no evidence of how it was done, plus the fact that MIB stabbed her in the heart before she spoke to him, just like Dogen said you have to do in order to kill Smokey.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:30 am | Report abuse |
  419. Amy

    I love this show. I love that the writers don't treat me like a child who has to have every last question fully answered. Sometimes we just have to trust ourselves – what the show means for YOU is as important as what it means for the writers.

    And if you don't trust yourself – there must be hundreds of theories posited on the internet. Google it. You're sure to find something you like.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  420. LS

    Comment about the births on island: Please remember that when the people (Sawyer, Juliette, Jin, Miles) who were left on the island, they joined the Dharma Initiative in the 70's and Juliette helped give birth to a little girl who turned out to be Charlotte. Also, remember Ethan who was born to Amy and Horace of the Dharma Initiative. It has been confirmed that children were no longer able to be born on the island because the mother's wombs would attack the fetus (as if it were a parasite) after the incident which led to the creation of the Swan and the Button and the Numbers. What has not been explained is how Jughead effected this ...

    May 12, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  421. LoveLost

    I don't think Jacob killed his brother....they fought... MIB fell and hit his head knocking him unconscious and the water carried him into the light as Jacob helplessly watched. Jacob did not and/or could not try to save him or he risked going into the light which fake Momma warned never to go into. MIB stated in a past episode that you "stole my body." Well it seems the light took his body from him. I was right about them being brothers (Cain/Able, Jacob/Esau) and only half right with "Adam & Eve" I thought they were Jacob's & Mib's parents (Lilith & Adam) but it was only the fake momma bear. More about fake momma would reveal alot...I still think the MIB name will be relevent and revealed probably in the finale. There are alot of fakes/phonies here...

    May 12, 2010 at 11:29 am | Report abuse |
  422. Patrick

    So basically, LOST is a Stephen King novel knock-off:
    "Once upon a time, there was an island with magical powers, guarded by a mysterious (perhaps insane) woman..."

    Lost is a show with:

    1) Great casting
    2) Great acting
    3) Great writing & dialogue
    4) Great production quality
    5) Great directing
    6) A "so-so" story.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  423. Roberto Gallstone

    I can't like an episode that has nothing to do with Sawyer, Kate, Jack, Hurley, etc... It's about them for me, not Jacob and his brother. It felt like a wasted episode with so few remaining.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:28 am | Report abuse |
  424. Peter H

    Well luckily for me, I have so many questions about the show that I can't remember the old ones.. but yeah, doubt they'll all be answered... it's mildly frusterating, but I'll just consider that it kept me hooked and entertained for years, and hopefully it'll answer some things for me in its finale anyway... certainly good tv, no matter what

    May 12, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  425. Casey

    "The Classic Cain and abel , i was expecting more. You know like ,the island is really atlantis created by an ancient civilization , that tried to control the world , and their experiments with electro-magnetism screw up time and turned a ultra modern world into a neolithic waste land, except for the island, "

    ... You must just jump for joy when SyFy premieres and original movie.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  426. Just_Say_No_To_Hugo

    I called it about Jacob and MIB as bros.

    The actress who played Mother was horrible. She could not even fake that foreign accent at first.

    I get this feeling that light in the water and all that is Egyptian/Other Word ( Stargate- thingy ), which leads me to believe Jack is the candidate. ( because he too has all those glyphic tattoos on him ).

    Please don't let Hurley be the new "Jacob", which to think of it will probably happen since everyone seems to like the fat guy, he will eat off the whole island.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  427. grey girl

    I used to watch "Alias" with Jennifer Garner - same show creator as "Lost," if I recall correctly? By the final season of "Alias," the story line had become increasingly convoluted such that I wasn't entirely sure what was going on and pretty much ceased to care.

    Frankly, I've always felt the same about "Lost," so I never invested much into it. I sure hope diehard fans are rewarded and satisfied when the screen fades to black.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:26 am | Report abuse |
  428. Mike

    I would just be happy to discover how Hugo got the nickname 'Hurley'

    May 12, 2010 at 11:25 am | Report abuse |
  429. Anna

    After Sun and Jin...... There is nothing the writers can do to console me! Expect have Desmond time travel and get them back. The latest episode was bad! The only cool part was Allison Janney! Jacob was and is and whatever is just not a good actor or the writing of his part; that character just comes across as too weak to be a leader! At this pint...GIVE BEN THE ISLAND!!! I actually feel for Smokey now, but not Flocke? I'm not sure if that emotion even makes since. i wish that Jacob and Smokey had never happened and we all could see more episodes like "Trisha Tunka is Dead" What happened to the ultimate dream of being stranded on a deserted island with hot guys and gals? I guess this show teaches that you can miss society but you can never run from religion? Anyway!
    I will have a LOST party and I will serve fruit and I will cry, for what could have been.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:24 am | Report abuse |

    I don't even want to think or try to calculate how many hrs/days of my life I've lost watching this show....I will be horrified. Won't watch a show by this writers anymore

    May 12, 2010 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  431. Chris

    I quit watching after the second season.....I dont see how anyone could enjoy that show. Its stupid and not well thought out. They are writing it as they go. Its true and has been said by the writers.
    Boycott it I say.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:23 am | Report abuse |
  432. ken97

    Lost is loosely based on a number of Biblical stories. At first, I thought the Island was the battleground of Armageddon, and the characters were gathering on the Island for the final battle between good and evil. But it appears that the main story is of Jacob and Esau, who were twins. Esau gave up his birthright, and it was granted to Jacob. Esau wants revenge, etc., etc. If you notice, most of the characters in the show have Biblical names: John, Jack, Ben, Jacob, Matthew, Michael, etc.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  433. Dustin Cunning

    Come on people, this is not espionage. This is a TV show. I have loved each and ever episode. This one of the most creative shows ever created on TV. Sorry that the writters did not answer ever single question, but damn these 6 seasons have been entertaining. Why did they not show this, or that was so fake, blah, blah, blah, you have been waiting for each episode each week with baited breath and now, "what crap, what a waste of my life. People, the show has been remakable. For the haters, sit down, turn on your computer and start writting a show. I am sure it will be so much beeter then the last six seasons that I have wasted, doubt it.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:19 am | Report abuse |
  434. Robert Fournier

    Patrick Healey presents well thought out structured explanation. Not sure I agree with it yet but it does cover the important bases. It didnt appear that Smokey was reanimating Brother when he woke up from the head bash. Also Smokey I thought doesnt actually take over a dead body it copies it. Hence the TWO Locke's at the end of the previous season. Just saying.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
  435. jennjenn

    There is no problem with the babies conceived/born off/on the island. The problem is that the mothers all die. Remember? Mothers who deliver babies on the island die in childbirth. That's why the Ben others gave Claire the injections, to keep her from dying. That's why Juliet was brought to the island. They told Claire she was "infected." The source on the island keeps giving you life-force, it heals (cancer, paralysis). That's why Jacob and MiB don't die and why they can't kill each other. (They can hurt each other, just not mortally.) I think the island's protector, in the finale, might end up being Rose. It was she and Locke who were healed. Locke was mortally wounded with gunshot, etc. but never died. I think some of the island's folks get the source, others do not, but I can't figure out why or which.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:18 am | Report abuse |
  436. Happily Lost

    Every question you ask will lead to another question. That's a message to us folks. It's time for us to stop asking questions, and do as all of the characters in the show have learned to do and fall in line to the will of the island..I The fun of the show has always been the mystery. There's inevitibly going to be some serious regret by the viewers as this mystery is revealed and questions get answered. Some folks are going to feel let down or dissatisfied. IMO, those folks are reacting to the loss of Lost. Let them mourn.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  437. tesleen

    Allison Janney was cast perfectly.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  438. VK

    I've got a funny feeling about this episode. I'm willing to suspend deep scrutiny and go along for the ride, but the ride's looking more & more like it's got a Lost Horizon/Wizard of Oz/Close Encounters thing going for it.

    Whenever I see cheap a CGI, like the golden toilet Jacob's brother was flushed down, I'm just pulled right out of the moment and made to think of a SciFi channel movie instead of the ground-breaking television that Lost has been.

    With so few hours left in the series, I hope it goes out with some kind of bang that at least partially satisfies and surprises.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:16 am | Report abuse |
  439. Jeremy

    Mother as a smoke monster also appeared to MIB as MIB's andJacob's real mother and revealed (or confessed rather) that she had killed their real mother. The reason behind this was to put things in motion to determine the successor. She preferred MIB, but his obvious desire to leave the island took him out of the running.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  440. Katie

    I want to know how Jacob got off the island and was able to be at Sun and Jin's wedding, next to Locke when he broke his back, talking to Sawyer at his parents funeral, etc. I would love for that to be explained somehow.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:15 am | Report abuse |
  441. J

    It seems as if the MIB was never really bad. The fake mom was bad and she has past that on to Jacob. All the MIB wanted to do was leave the island. He didn't hurt anyone until he found out she had killed his mother and new friends. Then Jacob kills him. But his spirit is still trying to get off the island now through Locke. Maybe they are trying to twist how we see good and bad. Maybe we should hope that Locke gets off the island, because it does seem make a difference since only one person is needed to protect the light. But overall that could have been covered in half of the episode.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:13 am | Report abuse |
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  443. Donna

    I had suggested to our kids long ago that the story looked like children playing a fantasy game working through good and evil and that they would be brillant to wrap the show with a video game that viewers could play to carry on their own battles. Think about it. And think of the parallels to the questions that each character has had to face. Life is not "black and white".

    Needless to say, I loved it.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  444. Jimmy D

    So they wasted an entire friggin episode – at the worst possible time – simply to answer a couple of stupid questions like who the two skeletons were. The writers of this show have absolutely no clue, they seem to be bouncing all over the place, trying to satisfy as many people as they can. I really don't see how they're going to wrap everythign up with only three hours left.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  445. Dan

    The biggest new question is how does this affect Sideways world where the island is at the bottom of the ocean? Is the light snuffed in this world?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:12 am | Report abuse |
  446. Living In A Cave

    Haven't seen this show yet. Maybe I should start watching it!

    May 12, 2010 at 11:11 am | Report abuse |
  447. BigAl

    I'm on the misfire side, how lame! and THIS is what we get with two episodes to go? i smell a sopranos ending coming.......

    May 12, 2010 at 11:08 am | Report abuse |
  448. rjps

    Confusing episode.. So the mother could create "rules" on the island and passed that on to Jacob? What happened to change Jacob over the last few thousand(?) years? In the episode he's a whiny mama's boy and in the current time line he's been made out to be an all-knowing godly figure..

    The end of the episode really made me think.. If MiB's skeleton remained with his mother's in the cave that would mean the smoke monster may not be Jacobs brother at all but rather just took his appearance and memories similar to what it did with John Locke.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:07 am | Report abuse |
  449. winnilaker

    If jacob can't leave, how come he can show up around the world helping folks get there?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  450. amadeus289

    I loved this episode.

    I think what R said makes sense, the twins,Jacob and JB (Jacob's brother) fake mom was a smoke monster. Adding to R's logic is the fact that she KNEW a fate worse then death would ensue should anyone swim to the bottom of that river. Also she appeared upon Jacobs and JBs real mom out of nowhere.

    I wondered how she managed to kill all those people, it would make sense if she had been a smoke monster. JB seems to have had a 'sixth sense' about things, and seemed to know he had to kill her, from behind, through the heart and before she spoke. Ironically he was probably her first choice to become her replacement.

    Coming to the future, I was leaning towards Jack becoming Jacobs replacement, thought briefly it might be Sawyer – but he is too reckless, but now I am wondering about Hurley. Hurley has always seen things on the Island too, and he has regular conversations with Jacob. Hurley might just be the new Island Watchperson.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  451. PB

    Like it or not, this show needs to END.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:06 am | Report abuse |
  452. kt

    Faraz – how are you the only person who knows (WRONG) the MIB's name? If his name had been announced yet – you wouldnt be the only person posting it...rather... your guess.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  453. Gary Mak

    I generally agree with the comments that this is not going to end satisfactorily for the viewers. They've had six years to figure out how to wrap things up. The second-to-last episode is NOT the time to be introducing more "mysteries!" At this rate, the last episode will just be the directors reading off Cliff Notes explaining the answers to all the weird stuff they've been writing into the plot line for the last six years. "Number 214: The reason some people died and some people were healed was because..." Or, worse, in 2 years we'll have some schlocky made-for-TV-movie, "Escape from the Lost Island" with different but look-alike actors that attempts to answers all the questions that should have been answered in the last episode – kinda like that "Gilligan's Island" movie.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:04 am | Report abuse |
  454. lost addict

    Excellent show! I think it's all going to come down to good vs evil. The island is both heaven and hell...good (the light) and evil (black smoke) both reside there and must remain on the island. Fake mom was probably also a smokey since she said thank you when MIB killed her and she said that going into the cave resulted in "worse than death". Loved it!

    May 12, 2010 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  455. Patrick Healey

    This is about good and evil. The smoke monster is on the island and trying to get off. Jacob and his brother are candidates, and thus cannot be killed by the smoke monster – as per the "rules". Thus the brother's fear that mom will take away the game (she keeping them from being seduced away from their task)

    According to the rules, the smoke monster can leave the island with the candidates – also established. Taking the dead form of their birth mother (a smoke monster trick), he begins to lure the brother away. Maybe he can get the Brother to seduce Jacob to his side, or eventually kill him. Either way he needs at least one of them alive to get off the island.

    Then we have the chronology of events as follows:

    1. Jacob and Brother are Candidates. They cannot be killed by smoke monster. But they can be tempted.
    2. Smokey (as birth mom) lures Brother away.
    3. Years later, Mom feels her time coming.
    4. Brother has abilities and is figuring out a way to leave the island.
    5. Jacob tells Mom of Brothers plan.
    6. Mom realizes she must KILL the brother. She told them they would never die because the smoke monster can't harm them.
    7. Mom rushes back to anoint Jacob.
    8. Smokey discovers what Mom has done, It knows that with Brother dead, Jacob will be anointed, and its plan has failed. In a rage, he kills the Others.
    9. Mom anoints Jacob, thereby passing the torch and all of her power to him. He is now untouchable to the smoke monster.
    10. Smoke monster assumes the form of the dead Brother and kills Mom.
    11. Jacob finds the smoke monster (in brother's guise) and the smoke monster is powerless against the anointed one (warden, whatever).
    12. Jacob takes his Brother (smokey) to the Sacred Well and hurls him in. The sacred light shines through the disguise revealing the brother's true from – smokey – the evil mentioned by Jacob and Richard when they met.
    12. Jacob finds the body of his brother (maybe smokey dropped it there?) and takes it to repose with Mom.
    13. Centuries (millennia) later Jack and Kate find the bodies.

    That is our theory, and for us it rings very true.

    It is all about containing the smoke monster – true evil – lest it be released into the world.

    The brother and the smoke monster just wanted the same thing – to get off the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:03 am | Report abuse |
  456. Hawkeye

    Some scattershot thoughts:

    1) MIB always played with the black rock in the game he played with Jacob. The ship that brought Richard was the Black Rock. I guess it's pointless now to ask whether there is significance to that.

    2) The mom gives Jacob the drink and says: "Take this cup and drink"–similar to what Jesus said to his disciples at the Last Supper. Anyone remember the promo pics with the cast posing like Jesus and the Disciples at the Last Supper? Locke (MIB?) is cast as Jesus in the pic.

    3) Jacob comes to his brother when they are older (after MIB has left) and MIB says to Jacob: "You look down on us from above"–another veiled (?) overture to Biblical belief.

    4) Questions not answered (or at least I don't think were answered): Who is Mother (certain she was a smokey as well)? Why the need to steal the babies? Why can't MIB leave the Island? What is keeping him there? Is it part of the game that Jacob made up ("One day you'll get to have a game where you make up the rules"). If Lost is inspired (in part) by Stephen King's "The Stand" (as Cuse and Damelof have said), then perhaps what is down in the cave is a virus/evil of some sort that would spread all over the world if allowed to leave the island? Or is it just electromagnetic energy that's down there?

    I'm sure there's more, but I'm really ambivalent on this episode. I'm also ambivalent on not seeing Ben for three episodes now.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:01 am | Report abuse |
  457. Jack M

    Why doesn't everybody just wait until the finale is over to complain about what has and hasn't been resolved?

    May 12, 2010 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  458. T. Lee

    A reviewer said it best six weeks into the first season:

    "Soooo lost on Lost"

    As I remember, the remaining elements of the article took the writers to task for incomprehensibility, unrelated side plots, and earning a paycheck by keeping everyone else as confused as they were about there the plot leads to and ends.

    May 12, 2010 at 11:00 am | Report abuse |
  459. wickedcricket

    I think Jacob couldn't hurt MIB as long as he was a candidate. Once we find out who the new 'guardian' is, all bets are off & MIB is expendable (like everyone else on this island)

    May 12, 2010 at 10:59 am | Report abuse |
  460. Answerman

    Cuse should incorporate the sphere from The Adventures of Brisco County Junior into the mystery of the Island. Brisco (How could a show like Lost not have Bruce Campbell in the cast?), Lord Bowler and the sphere should play a part in freeing the survivors – maybe the Man in Black is/was John Blye. Juliet should turn out to be the great-great-great grand daughter of Dixie Cousins.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:58 am | Report abuse |
  461. Jeremy

    it is pretty obvious that mother was a smoke monster as well. Thus the stern warning to Jacob to never to in the light. It is a fate worse than death. MIB goes in the light, and out comes smoke monster. How else would a frail old woman lay waste to an entire village??

    May 12, 2010 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  462. Denise

    I think that all the characters, Locke, Jack, Sawyer, etc are all children of the island.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:57 am | Report abuse |
  463. Jonathan

    It occured to me that they are leaving so many questions unanswered so they can do a spin off show. Maybe they will have a show of the creation of the island. I know it's a little out there as an idea but as I was watching the show last night it seems like the only way to answer all the ridiculous questions the story keeps creating. Like who the hell built the temple, statue and the light house?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  464. Debo

    So yea, i do believe that the smoke monster takes over the dead body of the man in black, and thats why 'he' has seemed to be super evil in the current time, and that makes sense why 'it' should not leave the island, because it is a powerful/evil being. The smoke monster then left that body and went to locke's, im guessin, thinking it would have a better chance of getting off the island in his body. So it seemed like the evil being was kind of locked away in that lighted cave, but was let out as the MIB went through. I don't know about you, but I have taken away a lot of religious hints through the series: 1)story of jacob – jacob and his brother esau fighting all their lives. I think jacob and the MIB has portrayed this story 2) garden of eden – It says there is someone always protecting it, to guard against future entrance. this may be why there always has to be someone guarding the cave/island.

    don't know if these ideas are accurate, but they are just some thoughts!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  465. Jim T

    So revealing the MIB's name is the biggest reveal of all? Somehow knowing it will tie it all together? Crazy.

    This episode barely answered any questions. Why couldn't they hurt each other? Mom said they couldn't but clearly Jacob killed his brother. Where did all the "others" come from. Wasn't Jacob bringing people to the island? Can you just find it?

    So most of the things we are seeking an answer to are just going to take like well they said so and didn't give any explaination.


    May 12, 2010 at 10:56 am | Report abuse |
  466. Ryan

    What if.... At the end, the island starts shaking and everything that is disappears. They find out they are being groomed to take over Anna's position as leaders of the V's!!!!

    A little farfetched but no one would see that coming!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:55 am | Report abuse |
  467. Lauren

    Does anyone think the light/water river has to do with the water in the temple that Sayid was saved in?

    If the mother is the smoke monster, could it have started as some other person/thing and just be using the body of "mother" to pretend to be the mother, therefore controlling young Jacob and MIB?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:53 am | Report abuse |
  468. Robert Fournier

    Actually the birth is very consistent with past episodes. If you come to the island late in pregnancy you can give birth. Conception on the island is the key to the misfortune. Remember when Sun had her ultrasound? Juliet was really concerned mostly with whether the baby was conceived off island or on island. I think the show has been tremendously consistent with this rule no matter the time period examined. Now explanation as to cause of the rule is still a mystery but the statement "So we quite clearly saw a birth (actually, two) on the island. When did these stop? I believe that we have yet to be told why no one was able to give birth on the island for a while, at least prior to Claire." Reveals a lack of paying attention to numerous clues and makes me wonder why you have a gig talking about the show.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  469. T

    Jacob and maybe his twin brother Esau......hmmmmm???

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  470. Optimistic_Fan

    While last night's Jacob/MIB origin story was not as helpful providing answers as i would have liked it to be, I must say that I still have faith in JJ Abrams & Co. He has been turning out solid consistently entertaining products for a long time, and I firmly believe that LOST will be atop that list.

    That said, LOST is quite simply the best show of the last decade (and then some) and while it certainly doesn't appeal to everyone, you just cannot deny the impressive writing, concept, character development and the fact that it has been a ratings juggernaut for 6 years.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:52 am | Report abuse |
  471. John

    Acting was the pits but I liked what I got out of the episode. Im not sure if i am fully on board with the mother once being a smokey because of the fact that she left behind a body when MiB killed her, BUT that does go in line with how Dogen told Sayeed to kill UnLocke, and i think that the dagger MiB threw and stuck to the well is the same dagger that he presented to Sayid to kill UnLocke, maybe just like the brothers, she wanted to leave the island but could not because she did not yet have a successor and once she handed the torch to Jacob she was thankful that the MiB killed her. Last couple of episodes have been awesome and looking forward to the rest, my NUMBER ONE QUESTION left is what was going on with Walt and the bloodtests etc.!!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  472. Lauren

    RE: Midochlorians – Actually this idea that humans have a "spark of light" in them is way older than George Lucas. It was a belief held by Gnostic Christians 2000 years ago. They believed every human had a spark of divinity in them and the purpose of religion was for person to connection with that spark.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  473. YouGotLost

    When Ben was tricked into stabbing Jacob, I recall it was with MIB's own knife...

    It lets me to wonder if the smoke monster is actually MIB's reincarnation...
    who can take the appearance of someone's who died (Locke).

    I remember one episode when MIB and Jacob are actually discussing that they can't hurt each other... I don't recall seeing that in yesterday's episode... so I am not sure about the timeline... and if the smoke monster had actually taken MIB appearance again.

    More questions, more questions...puzzled...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  474. Alnola

    Perhaps a bibical reference as The Man in Black is also "He Who Has No Name"; also some Cain and Abel deal?

    Island seems to be quite a magnet (no pun intended) for murderers:

    Kate, Sawyer, Ben, etc, etc,

    May 12, 2010 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  475. Otey

    I also remembered someone saying at some point this season that the black smoke was just the Island's defense system. So maybe since MIB was "special", when he was killed and thrown into the light, the Isand realized it was in danger, so it activated the "smoke monster defense mode." And the smoke monster just took over the MIB's body since he is now dead. This would explain Jacob and MIB sitting on the beach in later times. Now he wants to kill Jacob because the Island believes it is a danger to because Jacob keeps brining new people to the Island. So could Jacob be the real threat here? He brings in these new people to try and harness the light so they can bring good to the world, and MIB tries to stop him becuase he knows that good will never come from man, seeing as how he spent time with them and found that they are nothing but "greedy, power hungry barbarians" or whatever he mentioned last night. Remember, MIB didnt like the others he was with. He jsut wants to escape to the world to be with his family.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:51 am | Report abuse |
  476. born yesterday

    It is not a very good episode even though most of the answers were answered, now the big question will be who is the Mother. This is just like the eggs before the chicken question. It is tough to follow the "Candidate" episode and make people edgy watching this episode, even though it is good to see Jack, Kate and John faces again at the end. I will miss this show terribly. Only 3 and half hours left to go.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:50 am | Report abuse |
  477. amy

    I liked last night's episode, mainly because I have been so hungry for answers, even if it did bring more questions. For me, the episode certainly put a much more " sympathetic human side" to the Man in Black.... he was just a boy who wanted to go back from where he came from. However, the question is, once Jacob sent him into the hole..apparently killing him... is the image we have seen of the adult man in black up to this point just the image the smoke monster took on to manipulate Jacob?.. just like he is doing now with the body of Locke to manipulate the plane survivors? Did Man in black come back to life, like Sayed, only to be "infected" by the evil in the water? How would that explain his found skeleton,? Conclusively, if it is just the "smoke monster" who wants to leave the island, and not the Man in Black, then you can surely see where it would be important to keep that "thing" caged on the island. "Mother also said that the light represented rebirth.. could this give hope to Sun and Jin somehow?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:49 am | Report abuse |
  478. faraz

    she said his name was owen. so we know the name.

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  479. Windy

    I also felt this was the poorest episode yet as many of the events just didn't make sense as to how they came about. I do believe that when Jacob pushed his brother into the hole with the light that is in all men that the evil side of his soul was released as smokey. I was actually let down when it was revealed that the skeletons were TMIB and the woman who raised him. It would have been far more dramatic and romantic if they were a couple like Sun and Jin. Jacob came across as kind of a dunce and how is he seeing his brother now that he's dead? Is Jacob also dead or is he able to now see dead people? I just couldn't get into this one.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
  480. Justin

    origin of statue?
    origin of Jacob's and MiB's mother?
    is the MiB now a ghost that can take other people bodies?
    i don't see the MiB as a bad guy, just a trapped person who wants to know more than 2 people. he sees the others as evil. he just doesn't want to be trapped. he wants freedom.
    why not let the MiB leave? for fear he'll come back with others? why would he? because he'll be corrupted by man?
    great episode!!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
  481. Donald Carriere

    The Classic Cain and abel , i was expecting more. You know like ,the island is really atlantis created by an ancient civilization , that tried to control the world , and their experiments with electro-magnetism screw up time and turned a ultra modern world into a neolithic waste land, except for the island, But no we get new actors added, and questions that they cannot answer in the next two weeks. i still like the
    show but, where is the imagination!!!!.................i get the vapors...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:48 am | Report abuse |
  482. Glenn

    Lee, that might be true... It would make sense.

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  483. ttj

    "mother" said that the light was "life, death, and rebirth" after jacob threw the man in black into the light, the light went out, and "death" came out as the smoke monster. i think the temple is built over that site and the stream of water or "life" is what fed the rejuvinating pool in the temple. with the light out "rebirth" could not happen on the island which is why people can't conceive and have a baby on the island. just a few thoughts. they don't fit completely together but maybe it will spark something in someone elses head.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:47 am | Report abuse |
  484. Sly

    The thing that bugs me is that producers seem to be of the feeling that "Oh this is so big now and so many critical fans have such huge expectations, we can't possibly satisfy them so...screw it" Just like the Sopranos, X Files, et all. I personally think that's a huge cop out. The audience would appreciate ANY attempt at a resolution confirming their loyal viewing for years rather than a cop out like that. Seems that's the way the TV execs minds work these days.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:46 am | Report abuse |
  485. Ellie Baxter

    One thing I learned from last night's show was that there is not a definitive line between "good" and "evil". I no longer view Jacob as "good" and MIB "bad" since they both can be pushed to do evil things (killing). There has to be a reason why, even as a boy, they never called MIB by a name. Is it because they are both Jacob, and there is good and evil within all of us?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  486. ncspartan

    You know what is maddening? All the whining going on in this forum. Geezes, what a bunch of cry-babies. Not going to watch the finale because of this episode? Lost faith in the creators? Mad that your mom won't give you dessert if you don't eat your peas? Who cares?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:45 am | Report abuse |
  487. Kerri

    I hope they tie up the series better than X-files. What a lame joke.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:44 am | Report abuse |
  488. Matt

    So... Did Jacob extinguish the light be sending his brother into it? I notice the smoke monster coming out with no light emitting from the cave at that point. Does that mean that the source of light is vanquished and man is now doomed once the darkness gets off the island? Did Jacob cause the downfall of man through his rage?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  489. Denny D

    One of the best episodes yet, if you did not "get it" you never will.
    Go with the flow and enjoy the ride, it means what ever you want it to mean. There are no "right" answers here , this show requires a lot of work from it's viewers to provide there own context to understand content.
    If they never answer all my questions, I will make up my own.
    Sort of like real life in that regard, plenty of thing happen for no particular reason, does every thing have an answer or a reason?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  490. ray

    I think people forget the birth of the child that was conceived on the island in the Dharma initiative. Was it Rufus' kid? In the episode of LaFleur? When we see what happens when Sawyer and the time jumpers finally land in the 70s and the Dharma iniative.

    I think the actual answer is babies conceived on the island can't be born there IF THEY WERE CONCEIVED AFTER THE "EVENT", where the electomagnetic event happened. Because I just looked at "LaFleur" and it seems the baby was conceived on Island. Even Sawyer tells Juliet "Maybe the thing that keeps babies from living hasn't happened yet."

    May 12, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  491. Arlene

    Question, if Brother & Mother were dead, who rescused Richard, ghost of brother? Wasn't last night episode before Richard?
    And other episodes between brothers, showed other people there
    before last night's people. Wasn't brother already dead...HELP!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  492. Norm

    I see Jacob and MIB as Cain and Able from the bible.
    The island is a giant time traveling device that has been manipulating mankind since the beginning. It's not even on Earth as we know it . It's in another dimension, hence the exact coordinates to get there through a wormhole. I think I know where this is all going, but I'm not going to spoil it for everyone. Let's just say most people will still be confused after the last episode. This show is probably a little too deep for TV...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:42 am | Report abuse |
  493. Otey

    Whats with the people who are confused why they showed Locke, Jack and Kate? It was just a flashback to when they first found the "adam and eve" bodies....they showed it just so you knew the MIB and Mother were the skeletons....

    May 12, 2010 at 10:41 am | Report abuse |
  494. Kevin

    With so few hours left, it's clear the unanswered questions are going to spawn "Lost: The Movie – in 3D!"

    Bold and satisfying move to leave all the main characters out of last night's episode.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
  495. Rob

    Hold on folks..they very well tie this series up just right in order to have a motion picture to really finish it up..can you imagine the millions they would make....we shall see friends.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
  496. This is What You Get

    When you go for the 1st three seasons with no clear end-game in mind.

    One Word – " Midochlorians" – the same magical stuff that makes the Jedi of the Star Wars Universe "Special". – What a cop out here because that is pretty much what they said when the bat-loon-fake-mom tried to describe the light. George Lucas must be a phantom writer in this episode.

    Adam & Eve – Another lazy answer that brought no emotional value to the reveal.. Of course they can say they knew what they were doing when you make one of them a person you introduced in this episode.

    So MIB is Darth Vader? Guy is innocent, his mother is killed, takes revenge on those who killed her – Anakin where are you?

    Non-Mom must have seen her son kill birds with his mind (ala Walt a long time ago) to know he is "special". Come on.

    50 NEW questions with 3.5 hours left. Yeah, thanks for that. Between the day job and the family I guess I will just have to work imagination time in during the day.


    May 12, 2010 at 10:39 am | Report abuse |
  497. T's Girl

    What a let down! Not very original of the writers to come up witha show where it seems they stole the idea from the legend of how Rome was founded by twins whose mother was Bear (I think) and father was supposed to be maybe Zeus. I went to bed thinking, "I expected better than this," and now expect our final shows to be of the same ilk. Here's hoping we will not be disappointed.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:38 am | Report abuse |
  498. Brian

    It is clear that the mother was a smoke monster. That's the only way she could have killed all those people. Also, the smoke monster and Jacob's brother are two different people. Remember the smoke monster can appear as anyone that has died. So Jacob is not battling his brother, he is battling the smoke monster.I believe by sending the body down the stream is how the smoke monster is released. That's why the mother didn't want them to go down there. I didn't care for this episode, but I believe they will end this show properly and answer our questions.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  499. RCH

    Are people still watching this???

    May 12, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  500. POD

    Cain and Abel......Except in this version Abel slays Cain......or is Jacob really Cain pretending to be Abel..................and is the Man in Black Abel posing as Cain?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  501. Lee

    And as far as them revealing who the Adam and Eve skeletons. Why is that such a big revelation? There's skeletons all over the damn island, I could care less who they belong to at this point.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:37 am | Report abuse |
  502. Janet

    I loved the episode in that it finally answered a few questions.
    Casting Allison Janney as the mother was a distraction. I just kept thinking, 'that's Allison Janney'. It would have been better to cast a less well known actress.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  503. Lee

    If they are pregnant before they get to the Island they can give birth... If they get pregnant on the island they miscarriage..

    "So we quite clearly saw a birth (actually, two) on the island. When did these stop? I believe that we have yet to be told why no one was able to give birth on the island for a while, at least prior to Claire. "

    May 12, 2010 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  504. Lesley W

    As for giving birth on the island. If you conceive OFF the island you can give birth safely on the island. If you conceive ON the island, you lose the baby or die.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:36 am | Report abuse |
  505. Lee

    Jimmy Boy, those are all lame answers to questions that we got. We did not learn the origins of Jacob and MiB. They came "from across the sea", their mother inexplicably killed because "she was evil". We are not asking about a henchman. The island is presented as a mysterious and powerful place. All we learned is that it contains a lighted tunnel that contains "life, deth, and resurrection". Awesome that certainly clears a lot of mystery!

    It is an author perogative to leave certain things mysteries and the best authors do exactly that. This is an exception to that rule where almost the entire work will remain a mystery. Maybe one day people will the genius of this but I have the feeling there will be a lot fo disappointed fans.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:35 am | Report abuse |
  506. Brett

    The children are the answer. The children born to the island are the protectors. The only living people on the island will be those guiding the children. And they will remain on the island forever. Everything goes around full circle.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:34 am | Report abuse |
  507. RY

    I enjoyed last night's episode thoroughly, and have enjoyed all the events this season. I don't expect all loose ends to be tied up, but I do sense this moving to a resolution that viewers can understand.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  508. Emm

    I loved this episode.

    I noticed that Mother said to Jacob "It has to be you." Wasn't that similar to something that Sayid said to Jack before Sayid died? If so, that further makes me think that Jack will be the protector of the island. The other reason (I mentioned this last week) is that Jack is #23, the final episode is on the 23rd, Jack is Jack Shephard, and the 23rd psalm says "The Lord is my shephard..." So, if I had to wager, I'd put my money on Jack.

    That said, I'd rather see Hurley being the protector. I think that it would make for a great story. However, as the article author mentions, there are a lot of similarities between Hurley and Smokey, based on this latest episode.

    Answers I'd like to get by the finale:
    1. What ever happened to the children who were kidnapped in the first episodes?
    2. Widmore?
    3. Origin of statue and temple
    4. Did Jacob really order Ben to murder all of the Dharma people? Why? Seems out of character for him.
    5. the other obvious major plot line stuff.

    I'm looking forward to any thoughts that you have on this!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  509. Bill K NY

    Lost is remeniscent of Ken Kesey and the Merry Pranksters. IN 1959, KEN Kesey, a graduate student in creative writing at Stanford University, volunteered to take part in a government drug research program at Menlo Park Veterans Hospital that tested a variety of psychoactive drugs such as LSD. In 1964 THE PUBLICATION OF Kesey's second novel Sometimes a Great Notion demanded his presence in New York, so Kesey bought a 1939 International Harvester school bus that he and the Merry Pranksters painted in day-glo colors, and outfitted it for a cross-country trip. "YOU'RE EITHER ON the bus, or you're off the bus," became the metaphor for the Merry Pranksters and was repeated endlessly (you had to be there) on the long and now famous cross-country journey in the psychedelic bus.

    Ergo, you are either Lost or you are not Lost. As for the split itme line, the characters are beside themselves. (It helps to be a child of the 60s.)

    May 12, 2010 at 10:32 am | Report abuse |
  510. Greensboro

    This show was interesting in that it showed that the traditional lines of "good" versus "evil" are often blurry. The Man in Black (I wish they gave him a real name!) wasn't that bad of a guy. He wanted answers, he wanted a life off the island. And even after he killed Mother he was remorseful. Jacob on the other hand was not very clever or even that interesting. He beat the Man in Black to a pulp twice and then killed him (I thought he couldn't do that?), so it shows he's not all good. He seems to blindly do what his Mother told him, no matter how many people get killed. And the Mother was a bit psycho (how did she kill all those people and fill in the well?) so it's hard to know whose side to be on.
    Overall I always love the show and I hope that the conclusion is a good one.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:31 am | Report abuse |
  511. Henry Hanks

    RE: the babies – Thanks to our wonderful commenters for clearing that up! I had a feeling I might be missing something (one says that a lot watching "Lost"). Back to our regularly scheduled comments...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  512. Lee

    I figured it out. What we see over and over again are characters going about a mission without knowing why, just on the faith they will learn about it at some point. After all, the island is a compelling mythological mystery and I have to say, even more than the characters, I am even more interested in the islands story. I'm guessing most fans are the same. But we now see that everyone is just a patsie. Locke is the ultimate patsie, but we've seen how Ben, Richard, Jack, Desmond and now even the mighty Jacob and MiB were just pawns in a game that was never explained to them. Well guess who the next patsy is? US! The show will end (we will figurativly die) without revealing the mysteries. Like Desmond going on pressing a button every 108 minutes on faith alone, we've gone on pressing the remote control button every week for 6 years on the faith we will finally see what this mysterious island is all about. Just like all those aforementioned characters, we will expire in utter disappointment. The joke is on us.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:30 am | Report abuse |
  513. JImmy Boy

    You were given SO many answers to SO many items yet all I hear is more random questions.

    Here you learned the origin of Jacob and MIB, the wheel, the "light" or heart of the island, who the skeletons are, the origin of the black smoke, the origin of the wells, the finding of the electromagnetism, but all people can focus on is the name of MIB. Who are the people that MIB goes to live with? Obviously the people that the MIB goes with aren't important. In a movie, when the good guy kills an evil henchman, do you ask about his past, whether he had family, how he joined up with the villian. No you move on. But for some reason, everything has to be questioned.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  514. Rosie

    I agree with many of today's comments. This episode sucked, worst ever:( Why introduce new characters with only a few hours left? We fell in love with this show because of the original characters and their life situations. Answering the Adam and Eve question was really moot at this point. Who cares? The writers are answering the dumb questions and none of the valuable ones.

    AJ as Mother was really distracting because of her notoriety, but her acting was ok.

    I totally agree with the first line of this article – "Every question I answer will simply lead to another question." – will be the way this story ends in the finale. Bummer – I thought we'd get more satisfaction than that.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:29 am | Report abuse |
  515. EarlZ

    Wonderful episode! If you'd like more of a mythological background of what is going on, read Shakespeare's THE TEMPEST. Prospero is the sorcerer/guardian of the island where he himself was shipwrecked. The play brings up many issues regarding the outside world, the good of man and the evil of society. In terms of the light, they seemed to borrowed heavily from Tolkien and similar sources. And then of course you have the Biblical story of crazy old Isaac choosing between Jacob and Esau - did Esau wear black 🙂 Remember, like the Allison Janney character, Isaac's favorite is the other brother, though Jacob ultimately gets the birthright.

    Glad to see they're not pushing for the quick and easy X-Files/Twin Peaks ending. This is going to give us something to discuss for a long long time...just like the incredible final episode of The Sopranos.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  516. Paul

    Terrible episode. Even worse "acting." It took them 6 years to get to this?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  517. Dan

    Allison Janney was miscast. The scene where she is speaking to the actual mother in a foreign language was especially cringe worthy. Third to last episode and the creators/writers are introducing new characters.. seems like a last ditch attempt to force answers on the viewers. Was not compelling tv. We will all be disappointed come May 24.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:28 am | Report abuse |
  518. Dickens

    I didn't think it was a terrible episode, but it was terribly placed in the timeline of all of the episodes. I really wish they would have divied out more answers in the last three seasons instead of just hogpiling them all in 7 hours of crazy. I got really sick of time travel and big statues...they could have used a lot of those garbage episodes to pepper in some of these answers and keep the flow a little bit better. Season 4 and 5 will always be lost on far, this season isn't blowing my mind either.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:27 am | Report abuse |
  519. LCW

    i like the idea that mommy dearest was the smoke monster all along....that makes since of how she could kill all those people and then fill the well, she couldnt not have done that on her own ..........
    and the reason jack, kate & locke looked untouched, is because that was the beginning of the show when they found the cave and they were healed from the crash, and locke was still locke at that point also...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:26 am | Report abuse |
  520. Eric

    As far as the birth goes, Claire was able to have the baby on the island because she was not impregnated there, and the same can be said for Jacob's mother. Therefore, the fact that no one can get pregnant on the island and carry the baby to term is still viable.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  521. Keeley

    I love Lost, but I'm a little disappointed as well. I just don't see how they will possibly be able to bring resolution to every character and situation with only 3 hours remaining! I hope I'm wrong!!! Also, the only characters that they showed were Kate, Jack, and Lock. hmmm...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  522. Lauren

    The issue with babies on the island started I think after the 70's. When the people on the island were thrown back 30 years, Juliet delivered a baby that was concieved and born on the island. So no issue then. I don't think the issue started until Ben took over as leader of the others which is why he brought Juliet to the island. Maybe some how the issues is related to the gas he released to kill th Dharma folks or something else Ben did?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:24 am | Report abuse |
  523. Karlos

    Jacob and his brother cannot kill each other. So Jacob did not kill his brother by turning him into the smoke monster. And, before that his mother said going down to the light would not kill you but it would do something "far worse" (i.e. turn you into a smoke monster :p). So Jacob's brother did not die.. his "soul" just went on to become the smoke monster.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  524. pumpkinboy

    wait, they are on an island?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:22 am | Report abuse |
  525. Tim

    The episode answered some questions for me but still lacked what I was looking for. I don't see why they didn't give the brother a name but maybe the writers are just playing with our mind. I agree that I don't think we will get all of our answers. I do see the ending as being Jack and John L. sitting on the beach with John telling Jack how bad he wants to kill him (a.k.a. reminiscent of the scene between Jacob and his "taken over" brother).

    May 12, 2010 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  526. Gregory T

    I have been following Lost for a few years now. I first started watching on DVD (I hate having to follow each week. I'd rather watch the entire season in a weekend or two) and I have to say I am so looking forward to the finale. That being written, I don't think the writers are moving diligently enough to satisfy every question. How is the side-ways jump going to play out? What is the island really? Who are all of those people still on the island? What happened to all of the other survivors? Maybe for the final season they should have added in extra episodes since they uncovered so many unanswered questions...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:21 am | Report abuse |
  527. Indydon

    The weakest episode ever, left some pretty glaring holes, didn't answer anything (other than who was Adam and Eve) that we all hadn't pretty much figured out on our own. I've got a sick feeling that we are in for a huge disappointment after all these years.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  528. Raegor

    The baby question was pretty much answered ages ago you just have to put it together yourself.

    Time on the island occurs at its own pace, Daniel was able to figure that out, if you understand einsteins theory of relativity it helps to understand whats going on with the island & time... Anyway, babies need a fixed amount of time to develop at a 'normal' pace and that pace can't be sped up or things go wrong. At least thats how they've determined it in the show.

    So babies concieved on the island who develop on the island don't survive, but if they get off early enough in development they can continue on the 'normal' time pace and survive. Or if they develop enough off the island and then come to the island they should be ok as well.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:20 am | Report abuse |
  529. Dave

    Dude, you are no Doc Jensen.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:18 am | Report abuse |
  530. DaGhost

    Yea this was a very weak episode....Think they needed at least another 30 minutes to explain a little more in detail...but it has changed a lot of theories for most on this blog i can tell ya that...those who thought the Adam & Eve were Rose/Bernard, Sun/Jin last nights episode just burst y'all bubbles huh...LOL!!! I knew it would not have been either of them...the writer are to crazy to make it something that obvious

    Yes MIB (gonna start calling him NAMELESS) when he popped out I was like Oh Yeah we finally gonna get a name. and all they could come up with is 'I only choosed one name'....LOL!!!

    The MIB lost his body when he fell into the light...I remember him saying that you took my body from me. He is able to become those that die, hence him becoming Jack's dad and leading Locke to the Donkey Wheel, and telling Locke in order to bring them back he would have to die...he needed all the Candidates back on the Island so he can devise a way to kill them to finish the game that Jacob had created(Jacob created this game which is keeping him trapped on the island) When locke turned the wheel. That opened the door for the smoke monster to become him once Locke died, and in turn rasie his level of manipulation over Ben & the other Candidates....I have to think of the rest, but that's where I am with this right now...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  531. BBD

    BN, are you kidding me, that was GREAT. It showed how Jacob and MIB started, and why they are the way they are. We know way MIB has no name, his real mother did not have a name picked out, so no name!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:17 am | Report abuse |
  532. jasmith

    so, yeah, how come Jacob could leave the island to go be with Locke, and Sawyer (as a boy), and Hurley, and so on and so forth? and MIB/smoke monster could not?

    i have mixed feelings about this episode! the best episode this season was the Richard/Ricardo revelation, imho.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  533. akasha

    FYI. about the giving birth on the island. If the kid conceived off-island it can be delivered no problem, it's when the kid in conceived on-island that everybody dies.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:16 am | Report abuse |
  534. Kate

    Isn't there a whole Cain and Abel story going on now too. I don't think that one ended well. Except in this version Abel killed Cain.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  535. Tribeca

    I thought last night was a letdown. I did not like the casting of Alison Janney as the mother. I did not understand Jack, Kate and Locke coming on at the end. Last night just opened up new unexplained threads that are not useful at this point.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  536. Jenni

    In reference having babies on the island...that only became a problem around the "Others" era. Remember, Juliet delivered a baby back in the 70's. A baby conceived ON the island at that. My theory, back when that episode aired, was that it was Juilet's setting off of the bomb that caused the birthing problem (giving this great, circular logic that Juilet's biggest problems were all of her own causing. That was, though, part of a bigger theory that I'm not sure holds true anymore...). However, we still don't know exactly when/why birthing became such an issue.

    Other big questions I don't think we'll get answered:

    – What was up with Walt? Remember how he was so special that the Others stole him from Michael/the survivors? Why wasn't HE the one on Whitmore's boat instead of Desmond?

    – And speaking of Desmond-as-captive...HOW did Whitmore know that Desmond survived that first incident. Indeed, Whitmore seems to know an awful lot about what happened in the first 108 days, yet he wasn't there. Did Sun tell him in their "business" dealings? Why?

    – How come Jacob can leave the island (visits all the candidates at some point in their life) but MIB can't?

    – Where did Jacob get the names of all the candidates from? He doesn't seem especially psychic or anything (especially now)...

    Oh there are so many...and maybe they can't answer every question (although I think they could if they had 1 more season), but PLEASE don't suck up the answers you are going to provide. PLEASE...

    May 12, 2010 at 10:14 am | Report abuse |
  537. Megan

    Wasn't Ethan also born on the island? I can't remember if he was conceived on or off the island but I know that happened when they were in 1977.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  538. LCW

    Better i suppose still alot of questions but i thought it was very cool that the Jacob and the mib are brothers , ha ! Go Writers, Kane & Abel ........i wonder sooo much why the " murdering mother" was happy that MIB killed her ???? i liked how it showed us how the black smoke came about, its mib which we knew but ....was he so evil that the light / new world or watever it is couldnt except him ....? and how did mommy dearest kill all those people ...?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  539. Truth

    "Lost" is a very liberal show. It will not be missed.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  540. Lost Fan

    It seems that light is a pandora's box of sorts. You get from it what is in your heart. The Man-in-Black, had a dark heart so his soul became the Smokey. The light itself seems to be the light that drives all beings, the compassion, goodiness and loving AS long as that is what is in your heart!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  541. Jen

    People can only have children on the island if they were conceived off the island. It was explained in a previous season. Since the Island travels in time if you became pregnant while on the island it would be impossible for you to have the baby since it didn't exist in real time. Either the mother or the child would have to die to set things right.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  542. kt

    The fact that they tied this episode to one of the earliest episodes means the writers have not forgotten the core explanation of the island, that we will soon find out

    May 12, 2010 at 10:13 am | Report abuse |
  543. TRG

    I did not like the episode. This should have been an amazing episode considering the subject matter and instead it was a thud. Amazing light? Just not that interesting and Allison Janney was not the right choice here, she definitely didn't fit the role and it's shocking because they usually do a good job with casting choices.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  544. William

    Whoever decided to rush this series into a 6 seasons ending was probably a pretty stupid individual. I heard at one time this show was suppose to be the greatest show ever and for the longest time I thought it would reach that magnitude myself. Then out of no where the shows director starting asking ABC when they wanted the show to end and the next thing you know it's being finalized this year. I would just like to say that there have been shows in the past that have lasted 12 years and never lost it's greatness, I haven't waisted my time watching the last season because I'll get it on DvD to complete my set,but believe me when I say that this show will not go down in history as the best series ever,THANKS TO A IDIOTIC 6TH SEASON ENDING.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  545. USAFCCT

    STUPEDRO, glad i've been missing hte last 3 season, but i will for sure watch the last 3 or w.e episodes, cause i only care for the answers from the early seasons

    May 12, 2010 at 10:12 am | Report abuse |
  546. Jamie

    JJ Abrams can start shows but not end them. Ever see Alias? Huge disappointment that last season. LOST will be the same.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  547. Linda

    As with many past episodes, I will need to watch this one at least once more. When I saw the pregnant woman in red, I immediately thought that she was Richard's pregnant wife. She bore some resemblance to her and appeared to be Hispanic like Richard. But that would make him a father to Jacob and the Man in Black so that didn't make sense. I also couldn't make sense out of the scene at the end where we saw Jack and Kate looking particularly radiant (not showing the battering effects of living and struggling on the island) and Locke. Was Locke the "live" one or the "dead" one? In any event the story continues to take on a very biblical tone – could the twin brothers be Cain and Abel? What I found interesting in this episode was the introduction of a "mother" who causes a problem between her children. In the entire Lost scenario many of the characters have "father" issues – Kate, Jack, Claire, Locke. I think that Aaron will become an important character at the end. Stay Tuned....

    May 12, 2010 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  548. Yolanda

    Did anyone else think their "mother" was the original smoke monster and her plan all along was to pass the torch to the MIB?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:11 am | Report abuse |
  549. Jennifer

    Didn't the Frenchwoman give birth to her daughter on the Island? I'm not sure that you can't give birth on the Island as much as it can't give birth to a baby if conception happens on the island. It seems that a baby conceived off Island and then and Island birth is possible.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:10 am | Report abuse |
  550. Keith Geoghegan

    Well to be fair, Adam and Eve has been a mystery that's been ongoing since very early season one. It was easily a top 5 Lost mystery.

    I wish people would watch these episodes for what they are instead of what they don't have. I have been and am really enjoying this season.

    At the end of the day, we know that some questions are just not going to be answered.
    like..We did not learn why the island exists, or what this light really is.

    But the bigger questions..hopefully they will!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  551. chris mouw

    I do not get hung up on this show for just this reason. When writers are allowed just make stuff up as they go along, the show loses credibility. A waste of time....

    May 12, 2010 at 10:09 am | Report abuse |
  552. Nydia

    So disappointed. After seeing this episode, it has become abundantly clear that the series finale will be a great big let down. It's apparent that all will be not explained and I have just wasted a whole lot of time watching this show. Hopefully I'm wrong. Let's just end it already!!!!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
  553. ADeP86

    Wow that was simply like mind blowing? We got answers, we got questions, we got it all!

    I think I am getting it better now, but there is still so much I cant wrap my head around.

    Is the temple now over the "light?" Any one have any thoughts on that?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
  554. Amanda

    It wasn't that noone could give birth on the island... It was, if I recall correctly, that anyone who became pregnant on the island never carried to term. That was why they made such a big deal about when Sun actually conceived and Juliet took her to the station to find out the age of the fetus. If she conceived on the island it would be Jin's and she would most certainly die. If she conceived before the crash it would not be Jin's baby.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:08 am | Report abuse |
  555. Tim

    This is killing me. This show has been on for six seasons and built up hundreds of questions over most of the first 5 years and then summarily introduced the Jacob/Man in Black storyline and abandoned all attempt to wrap up the rest of the story. Likely because they can't given the amount of stuff thrown against the wall on Lost.

    Its thought provoking and entertaining, yes. But quit answering only the questions you introduced in the story within the last year only Lost writers and showrunners!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
  556. vk

    I think this will all just be a game between MIB and Jacob. The people are brought to the island that have "lost souls". Once they make their peace or become enlightened, they die, or as it keeps being said, the island is done with them.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:07 am | Report abuse |
  557. Jenny

    I loved it!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
  558. Lockesneighbor

    It's nice to get the Jacob/MIB backstory, but with so little time left, did we need an entire episode spent on it?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
  559. kt

    I thought women could give birth on the island if they conceived before they arrived on the island. All of the failed births were conceived on the island. Right?

    May 12, 2010 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
  560. R

    Fake Mom was a smoky too I believe... She quoted man in black word for word (they come, they destroy...), she ripped through the site setting fire to everything, she thanked son for killing her, and he killed her by stabbing her throught he heart 'before she spoke to him' just like Dogen told Sayid he had to if you are to kill a smoke monster.

    I'm surprised by all the negativity, I thought it was one of the best episodes ever, missing jack & co aside.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:06 am | Report abuse |
  561. davemeet

    This episode was lame. The acting was garbage and the answers were more like b.s. responses. I am not even interested in seeing the finale episode, I may just dvr it. This was a disappointment.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  562. Rachel

    Adam and Eve revelation is kind of moot at this point – not the most important thing we needed to know about. The story didnt reveal much that we didnt know before – for ex, the electromagnetic activity in the island, the light in the frozen wheel chamber – there were no real 'Aha' moments (MIB still doesnt have a name).
    I was struck by the similarity of killing of the shipwrecked people by crazy Mother (did she do it?) and the mini-genocide of Dharma people. Did Jacob orchestrate the last one or both?
    I do believe Sawyer is the next Jacob since Jacob/James share the same etymology. Sawyer is also able to see all the island apparitions like the horse, boy Jacob etc.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:05 am | Report abuse |
  563. Tayloscott

    The latest episode completely sucked. I love this show but it did absolutely nothing for me last night.

    Its like my girlfriend back in highschool, gets me a little farther but stops at the last minute saying...."WAIT, WE CANT YET"
    Blue Balls to say the least!

    May 12, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  564. Em

    the light is "inside every man... If the light goes out here, it goes out everywhere." But remember that 'mother' also said the men/other people
    could not take the light, just make it go out. So if man in black aka. smokey is maybe part of the light source; I dont see how anything bad can happen from him leaving. I think that the show last night was more harmful to the plot than helpful.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:04 am | Report abuse |
  565. losted

    these people are driving me crazy! just end it and let us losties figure it out

    May 12, 2010 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  566. Jen

    Didn't like Allison Janney as the mother. Still feel clueless....

    May 12, 2010 at 10:02 am | Report abuse |
  567. RT

    I've lost faith in the creators. I have a strong feeling they're not going to have a satisfying ending for the majority of the fans. Hey it's a free TV show but understand that we've spent HOURS watching this mystery unfold so it's only natural to want a good ending. So the Jury is out but it's leaning towards a X-FIles-like catastrophe. Unless it's part of their master plan – the Man in Black (Smoke Monster/UnLocke) is pretty sympathetic and has a point – he has every right to want to leave, just like anyone else who was stranded on that island. Right now, to me.. the island is evil and Jacob is just some mindless follower who's doing what he's told with no understanding of why he's doing it. Just a puppet.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:01 am | Report abuse |
  568. Rain

    First...Lost is

    May 12, 2010 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  569. R

    Best. Show. Ever. If you don't get it, it's on you.

    May 12, 2010 at 10:00 am | Report abuse |
  570. Stryder

    Finally some answers. I don't think we're going to find out all of the answers either, but I think we'll get the important ones out of the way. Hard to understand how they are going to fit all of this stuff into 3.5 more hours.

    May 12, 2010 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  571. Lauren

    The issue of birth on the island had nothing to do with Jacob and MIB being born because they were conceived off the island like Aaron was. The mystery is still for women who get pregnant ON the island.

    I'm glad this episode answered a lot of questions, but they just left more confusion about what the smoke monster actually is. Did it just appear because it took the soul of MIB and was able to escape?

    May 12, 2010 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  572. jimbo

    It won't be all explained, just enjoy the ride. As long as the finale is better than the BSG finale, I am good. A tad bit more clarification though would help however.

    May 12, 2010 at 9:59 am | Report abuse |
  573. Ojay

    Babies could always be born on the Island as long as they were not conceived on the Island.

    Babies conceived on Island and born off Island turn out ok...
    Babies conceived off Island and born on Island turn out ok...
    Babies conceived on Island and born on Island doesn't trun out ok...

    May 12, 2010 at 9:58 am | Report abuse |
  574. Startrtl

    Addressing your second question point. People are able to have babies on the island, as long as they are not concieved on the island. That is why Claire was able to have Aaron on the island, but Sun had to get off the island to have Ji Yeon.

    May 12, 2010 at 9:57 am | Report abuse |
  575. bn

    This was the biggest let down of the last six years. The answers were big. No doubt about that. But it was 50 minutes of bad acting, bad directing, bad visual effects, bad set design, etc. just to get those answers.

    Overall the episode was a tremendous letdown.
    A) MiB STILL has no name? Really?
    B) Jacob and this guy are twins but look 20 years apart in age
    C) Jacob seems more like a simpleton than the omniscient figure he's appeared to be all along.
    D) So they waste an hour explaining the origins of two characters and leave 2 episodes to answer the dozens of other questions we have about this show?

    What a letdown.

    May 12, 2010 at 9:56 am | Report abuse |
  576. Sue

    SO I'm still confused and still LOST. What else is new!

    May 12, 2010 at 9:53 am | Report abuse |

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