May 6th, 2010
11:54 AM ET
Robert Rodriguez's 'illegal' movie trailer is the real deal
Danny Trejo plays the knife-wielding hero, and he’s got a special message in there, just for Arizona. Before the Southwestern state made headlines by, as CNN.com notes, requiring "all immigrants to carry alien registration documents at all times and requiring police to question people if there is reason to suspect them of being in the country illegally," Rodriguez was toiling away on a Mexploitation film that touches on the same issue, to be released by 20th Century Fox on September 3, 2010.
The new trailer for the film, which features Jessica Alba, Robert DeNiro, Lindsay Lohan and Michelle Rodriguez, lays out the basic plot points: Danny Trejo’s Machete is paid to assassinate a corrupt senator with an anti-immigration platform, but it’s actually a set-up to reinforce the senator’s call for harsh anti-immigration laws. But, as the trailer says, those on the senator’s side “soon realize they [expletive] with the wrong Mexican.” In a statement from Fox, the studio confirmed that Robert Rodriguez was indeed given the green light to make the trailer, but they didn't know exactly what he was going to do. See the full trailer here. |
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Machete + Midnight Movie = Muy Magnifico
if only they could've worked out a scene where michelle rodriguez & jessica alba got to make out, now that would've been fresh cinema!
It's about time we all get angry about the subjects of movies. Take for example Rodriguez's flick "Planet Terror" there were flesh eating zombies assulting people all over. Who do these people think they are, coming into MY town eating living flesh and burning down the local rib joint? The undead have no rights as citizens regardless if they were taken on American soil or not. And the military?! They brought this all on with their irresponsible use of nerve agents etc. Somebody should put up a fence or ask for id when these zombies are walking around.
Robert Rodriguez and all of the actors/actresses listed in this article just bought themselves a one-way ticket off of my tv screen.
I say again:
It’s not hard to understand what needs to happen before the country reaches the point of no return...
1. All illegal immigrants need to be deported period. Doesn't matter what race they are!
2. Children born to illegal immigrants should not automatically become U.S citizens.
3. If your 18 years old you must serve the United States of America by joining the military for minimum of three years.
4. Not everyone citizen should go college. Parents need to wise up and send their children trade school to learn a skill to use for life.
5. Don't be afraid to say out loud that "Muslim Extremist" are our number 1 enemy.
6.Be proud of your country and wear, hold and salute the American flag as if your life and liberty depends on it. (because it does).
7. Vote the liberals that are trying to destroy this country out of office this November.
8. limit federal and state elected position to a max of 8 years. No more corrupt politicians making a career of it.
9. lets have everyone on welfare re apply with 2 forms of official id. It would create jobs for all the people doing the paper work and save money from all the illegal’s collecting it.
10. lets add a 10 year max to welfare and food stamps unless disabled and its been verified by 2 Dr’s.
11. Anyone receiving public assistance must agree to be a organ donor for life.
and @PNK:
What is wrong with what I said in number 4? This country was founded on skilled laborers and if we had more people trained in trades instead of racking up on federally funded student loans for degrees that do not get them jobs, we wouldn't be in the illegal immigration mess to begin with. We need to have our citizens be paid well and do the work the illegals come across the border for.
and one more thing.........
Why is it that other religions in the world can be made fun of mocked and disgraced by the media and Hollywood but not Islam? America better wake up and see what is happening? Libs and our young people are being programmed for the indoctrination of Islam. But religion in general hasn’t become taboo - just Islam. The Cartoon Network squeaked under the radar in March when it showed a racy depiction of Jesus voiced by jailed rapper Lil' Wayne. And Comedy Central is developing "JC," a half-hour cartoon about Christ wanting to escape the shadow of his "powerful but apathetic father" and live a regular life in New York City. See what I mean!
Machete foreshadows the beast that is born when humans are dehumanized. You fear incarnate.
illegals shouldn't have rights – they're illegal. machete should be a warning to all americans that they should be extra skeptical of anyone speaking that way...
hey "doofus"
of course rodriguez carries ID when he travels abroad... we all do, it's called a passport.
that's the most asinine part of this whole law, it's already a law... they're "illegal aliens"... anyone visiting from Mexico or any other country in the world would have their passport on them... and i don't know about you, but i've had cops ask me for my ID many times... i thought you had to produce ID even as an American if you're suspected of any illegal activity.
chasemel, you lose at life.
Goodness, so much political bickering! Looks like a fun time at the movies, and I am eager to see it. That's all I have to say.
This one movie I'm not going to see. As for the illegal imigration issue, I will support Mexican's rights in the US when Mexico does the same for Americans, like owning land.
RE: Taxes, would you people stop saying how little the middle clasee is taxed? What you are referring to is income/payroll tax, but you overlook taxes on cap gains, cigarettes, soda, tanning, restaurants, tolls, healthcare, etc. Some are federal and some are state, but considering how much states receive from the govt., its all awash. Additionally, the issues is largely spending, and you can look to Greece to see how uncurbed social spending can affect an economy. We can't afford to subsidize even more people for schools, medical care, etc. There's the option to pay more taxes than you owe, I wonder how many of you opt to do that.
mack is messed up in his head
I will beat up ANYONE here!
Challange Me... I dare you!
The Elitist who "star" in, produce, direct, and fund this type of anti U.S. Citizens movies who support the invasion by the ILLEGALS feel safe in their gated communities and travel with bodyguards. Drugs furnished by the ILLEGALS, Drug Wars by the ILLEGALS, United States Citizens murdered by the ILLEGALS but not to worry the Sanctuary Cities and States will continue to furnish Cheap ILLEGAL Labor for the Elitist Political Contributors and Special Interest Groups of course they feel safe in their Gated Communities. If you venture out and you are murdered by an ILLEGAL Drunk Driver or you are a Police Officer murdered by an ILLEGAL during the commission of a crime or a traffic stop or a United States Citizen is in the "wrong" place (Sanctuary Cities and States) and caught in the cross fire just remember the Hollywood Elitist, Our Elitist Politicians and their Elitist Political Contributors consider those murdered as a SMALL SACRIFICE for THEIR CHEAP LABOR!
I'm shocked that miss Jessica "don't call me Latina" Alba is in it.
Actually most illegals are paying taxes as most of them are using fake paperwork in order to work. Ultimately, they don't file taxes b/c they can't have the federal government catching on. While there are valid reasons to control immigration, stop spewing misinformed populist "facts".
I cannot help but believe that a film like this, released during these times of intense tensions, will fan the flames of resentment on both sides and possibly lead to increased violence. Worse case scenario, it may even lead to a blood bath, as it appears to incite a race war in the South West.
What's more, the fact that the trailer, released on Cinco de Mayo, and starting with a WARNING to the state of Arizona, closely resembles the al Qa'eda terrorist films declaring their belligerent stance against the United States, their perceived wrongs, and rationalizations for upcoming acts of terror against the citizens of the United States.
Which leads me to my ultimate questions: has Hollywood now officially declared itself in belligerent opposition to the US government? Have they become the mouthpieces for domestic terrorist groups?
What is the response of the Obama administration to this? How would they react if a conservative militia created a film that portrayed the assassinations of Liberal representatives and open warfare against the government?
http://shakedowncrews.blogspot.com/2010/05/does-robert-rodriguez-film-machete.html
The term illegal alien is a racist term used by whites. A term used for all people of brown color. Is just like the "n" word. I have never heard a white person refer to Europeans, Canadian or white South Americans who are in this country illegally as an illegal person, and the terminology is most often used to apply to Mexicans. Just to show that many are ignorant of geography as Mexico isn't the only Spanish speaking country in the Western Hemisphere.
Cat in the hat....you are an idiot! They pay taxes when they buy stuff, so that is the equivalent of paying federal and state income taxes as well? Come on man, you got to bring more than that, because that is weak
Just remember one of the lines of the trailer, which can be found anywhere in youtube even if the link on this article doesn't work: "We didn't cross the border, the border crossed Us".
This guy is the most overrated "filmmaker" working today. I'll be glad when his "shark boy" "spy kids" and "machete" have bankrupted him.
As for the poster who said the middle class is being taxed at it's lowest rate in 52 years, where are you living? Or rather, what are you smoking?
People don't seem to understand the reason WHY immigrants come to this country from south of the border. These people's home land is so bad they are willing to come here illegally and take crappy jobs for crappy incomes. The real blame is the American business owners who hire illegal immigrants so that they can keep more of their profits for themselves and get out of all the overhead and taxes it takes to hire a legal worker. If EVERY business did not hire someone who was not a legal resident, the immigrants would not come illegally because they would know no business in America would give them a job but this will never happen. Be mad at the American business men who hire illegals instead of legal American citizens.
People!
Please actually read the review before posting!
"illegal immigrants will assassinate US citizens if allowed to remain in the country."
Really? It says nothing about Machete's US Citizenship status! And it doesn't bother you in the least that the Senator (party not named) is described as "corrupt" and that he and/or his staff hired an assassin?
That makes them worse than the assassin in my eyes.
Further, and I'm reading into this a little, I would guess that the way it would reinforce the anti-immigration stance is that they planned to kill him before/during the attempt and make it look like he was an illegal?
It's the other side of Wag The Dog only this time the Dog bites back!
Seymour says:
First of all, Robert Rodriguez is not a Hollywood liberal. His entire persona and career are anti-Hollywood. Secondly, he's not anti-middle class, he started so poor he had to sell his body to science for years to self-finance his early films, and still seemingly "bet's the farm" every time out. He's a sincere American who believes in fundamental human rights for all (complete with bloody revenge fantasies, of course). And lastly, our middle-class is not being taxed-to-death. C'mon, get real. Stop blaming your discontentment on people who simply come here in pursuit of happiness, same as your immigant ancestors. If nothing else, kudos to Rodriguez for being able to keep a good sense of humor about the whole thing!
Thank you !!!
@Melissa Johnson:
Very creative diatribe. But, Arnold did not come to this country illegally. He came here under a B-1 visa, for being an athlete. The following year he got an H-2 visa, which allowed him to work legally. 5 years later he became a permanent legal resident. 9 years after that, he became a citizen.
The controversy revolved around a $65-$200 "salary" he received the first year he was here to train. Technically, he was not allowed to earn any money. In 1971, while "visiting" under his H-2 visa, he started a brick-laying business. Technically again, the terms of his visa did not permit him to start his own business.
I would hardly call earning a salary and starting your own business "draining our resources". Nor would I call applying for and receiving a visa "coming here illegally."
Viva Obama!!!!!!
Wow .. all of these comments that seem to miss the point of the article .. Machete is gonna kick some major tail! Filmmakers have been putting their personal views into films since the beginning of the format, but this "film" was set up in a faux-trailer between the Grindhouse feature films. Go watch that trailer before assuming the plot. He is a day laborer (who happens to be an ex-federale) who is hired to bump off a politician, only to find himself set up to take the fall for a plot already in progress. This is a revenge movie. Period. Grab a box of popcorn and enjoy. I certainly will on opening day!
So the fake trailer from Grindhouse is now a real movie?
This is for all the right wing "we're being taxed to death to pay for these illegals" out there:
Put your money where your mouth is, stop whining. Freedom isn't free.... pay your damn taxes!!!
Flat Taxers and people who think Sales Taxes are fair are simply wrong. Unless everyone gets paid the same amount despite the difference in difficulty of their vocation there is no way for either Flat Tax or Sales Tax to be "fair". Either of these options are punitive taxes that soak up a far greater proportion of salary for people who get paid less. Purchasing a $100 item with a 5% sales tax levies an additional $5 against the purchaser, and that $5 means a lot more to someone who earns $25,000 a year than someone who earns $250,000 a year and by the end of the year a far greater portion of the lower earner's yearly salary goes to pay taxes than people who earn greater wealth.
What people need to understand is that federal law already requires immigrants to have their papers on them.
I live in NM. I live 75 miles from the border. I am an AmericanMexican. I speak fluent Spanish and fluent English. My family's latin ways have been a challenge for me growing up. Take anything you want at any cost were the lessons I learned. Chri$t changed my way of thinking. I now teach my children different. My people's problem in many ways has been the challenge of coming from a Country where they have to steal to get by to a Country where they let you steal to get by. At the end, my people although not all, have a great problem – that is, the heart.
Hey Really! HERE HERE!!
This country will fail... u see it happening..... thnks to "Rome-esque" ways our government is taking more and more rights away from us...... under the guise of freedonm... U "smart americans" realize the police can arbiraily come in and search your home without any warrant thanks to the patriot act.... u can be a hard working american today, and be labeled a terrorist tomorrow.... bam, no rights.... hows that feel... I know Iknow.. Who gives a sh@# as long as it's not me right people!? complacency rules....as the rich get richer and the poor get poorer..... while blues collar pays for the wealthy, the jailed.. and the illegals.... oh and god bless our trillion dollar defecit
I hear switzerland is nice... good health care too
This is going to be hilarious! Until idiots from both sides of the issue take this movie seriously...
los mexicanos so la mamada dejense de cosas no manchen nomas porke les estan kitando el trabajo
overt death threats are definitely the way to protest a law... idiots.
Too bad Rodriguez is putting the anti-illegal-immigration controversy into Machete. I was looking forward to the film when I found out that the faux trailer was being made into a real film.
Now I'll stay away.
The REALITY is the MEXICO shoots border crossers on its southern tier. The media doesn't tell you that. If you are illegal in Mexico, they deport you. The media doesn't tell you that. Why are we adopting an approach that is not quid-pro-quo?
By the way...why is it that almost every protester on here will get mad if someone jumps the line in front of them at Disney World, yet, have no indignation for all those who jumped the fence and the line in front of all those who wish to immigrate to the U.S. legally?
Bunch of gutless wonders. Removing the trailer. Yea, free speech is everywhere. I feel more and more like I am living in another country.
Can you say "Ishtar"?
Link to trailer doesn't work. Should be removed from the storyline
All of you people are pathetic, coming to verbal blows over something so trivial as a trailer. Not so united states of america? The empire is coming to a slow, spiraling death, and it's not the immigrants fault, it's your own.
Reality, as far as I can see it's you teabaggers and your rentboys that are our big enemies right now. Wanting America to fail, moving off to Costa Rica, voting for (eww) Carly Fiorina, stuff like that. I got it pegged as teabags first, Muslim extremists second, and Lady Gaga music third, but it wouldn't take much to make me declare a Teal Alert and move her up to number one.
This whole immigration problem will eventually culminate in something very nasty. More people in this country are apposed to these illegals than the press reports and for good reason. There will ultimately be a turning point where this leaves the floor of discussion and enters the arena of action.
Wow. LOTS of people here who have never heard of Machete and have no idea what it's about, or that it's a joke.
Lighten up people. Danny Trejo is going to kick all our butts back to the 70's. This movie will be nothing more than good times, I promise!
Yesterday I read that 3 kids were sent home for wearing a T-shirt that had the American Flag on Cinco de mayo at a California School. The school thought it would start a fight to wear their flag on that day. As Amercians I guess we have clear what days we can show our love for our country. Really, but if you see this trailor you darn well know it's going to cause riots. How dare this idiot make such a movie and direct it to Arizona, it's more like a threat. No wonder all the illegals want to come here, they could break the laws, protest against American laws, and do just about whatever they want to do. Well in this country we have penalities for breaking the laws! You Rodriguez why not try making this move in China about the Chinese and see how far you get! We might as well just turn over the country to these Illegals! Now they have the right to threaten for what they want! But remember to ask about displaying the American Flag on specific days!
Jason B.
"because what I took away from this trailer is illegal immigrants will assassinate US citizens if allowed to remain in the country."
If you base reality on a movie trailor, then you must believe that Superman, Spiderman and Iron man are actual crime fighting heroes that live among us! Are you kidding me?!?
As far as you believing that "illegal immigrants will assassinate US citizens" that's really sad, ignorant and pathetic.
The gov of CA was an ILLEGAL immigrant for about 15 years!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps you are confused at this point. Allow me to rephrase me statement. Arnold Schwarzenegger came to this country ILLEGALLY from austria in 1968, but didn't become a legal citizen until 1983. How many people has he "assassinated?"
Again, just because he was the lead role in the Terminator movies, you probably think it's real because he killed people in the movie. The trailor of those movies did show him shooting and killing people. Is that what you are referring to? Or is Arnold being ILLEGAL for over 15 years in this country...draining our resources and breaking the law... considered okay by you because he is white?
Is that the problem?
White ILLEGAL immigrants=good,
people of color illegal immigrants=assassins?
But then again, the Pilgrims (illegal immigrants DID assassinate the Native American people who WERE the true/first Americans). Is that what you mean also, Jason B?
I knew Grindhouse was a niche film but I'm surprised at how many people here seem to have not heard of it, or don't get RR's joke.
Camarillosam, white Americans are not being put on notice by this film hahahaha. I wasn't even going to post until I saw that. You pretty much fulfilled the punchline of Machete, which is a tribute to 70's exploitation film, this one being a jab at race hysteria... and lots of tasty, trashy fun with a south of the border flavor, which is RR's gig.
Rent a few DVD's, take a deep breath and chill the **** out man.
Really.....
middle class taxes are at the lowest burden level since 1947.
You are not very bright
GD
"Good fences make good neighbors." Are you serious?!?!? Where is the fence seperating the US from canada??? That border is 2 times the length as the southern border. There are literally hundreds of miles where all you have to do is simply cross a street and BOOM, you are in the US from canada!!
I graduated from a university in IDAHO with students from canada that had expired visas and were looking for jobs in the US. THEY DID NOT WANT TO RETURN back to canada!!
It's a race thing. I am white and I KNOW it's a race thing. IF YOU are a person of color, you will be stopped and questioned. These ILLEGAL canadian students have never been questioned about their status because they fit "into white America." No one questions white America or people that look like white Americans!
I couldn't care less about illegals (or about ill eagles, either) when it comes to movies, especially if the movie has yet to be released, and is more certainly meant as a blood bath of chaotic entertainment. After I see Danny Trejo slaughter people wildly with machetes, THEN I'll concern myself with the message.
Steven Seagal is also in that movie, how come CNN forgot to include his name?..he is my hero
Nazi-Zona is a place to avoid at any means...!!
I am just glad to see Danny Trejo get star billing in the movie. The veteran actor deserves it.
Elizabeth
My kids go to school were there are ELL classes too. THESE KIDS SPEAK RUSSIAN AND FRENCH!! THESE ILEGALL ALIENS FROM CANADA AND RUSSIA ARE ALL TERRORISTS AND SHOULD BE DEPORTED!!! RUSSIAN AND FRENCH?!?!? REALLY??? THOSE WHITE KIDS REALLY MAKE ME SICK....SO GROSS!! I HAVE TO MOVE SOON OTHERWISE I KNOW I WILL BE MURDERED BY ONE OF THEM!!!!
Hey Thinktwice
Maybe you should spend your "hard-earned AMERICAN dollars" on a movie about the oil spill. THANKS BP, British Petroleum as in THE UK...LONDON...blah, blah. Thanks to their wonderful and ever so Ingenious engineering, they have screwed up our AMERICAN ecosystem for the next 5 years or more. WOW, you don't have to be "Hispanic" to drain this country of funds and resources. BP will do it for us!! Thanks BP!!! I WILL NEVER SPEND MY HARD EARNED AMERICAN DOLLARS AT YOUR SERVICE STATIONS!! BP is damaging MY COUNTRY and people who use their service stations aren't concerned with being very patriotic.
As far as the movie, Thinktwice...oh please don't flatter yourself. I really doubt Mr. Rodriguez will miss your $10.00 for a move ticket. Maybe your should support BP instead. They are white and seem to be what you would support!
You people are suckers. Fox News says one thing and Fox Studios make another. Ooops you sheep were not supposed to know that....
hey carl guess you missed the first part of my story. think of something to say or wait for today's talking points to come out. I love it someone should have a write up on spelling errors since that is all these fools can critisize and yes that is mispelled on purpose snootchie bootchie baby
Hey Peyote:
Learn to speak and write English before your criticize the “parasites.” The correct spelling is “we’re” not “were.” A little capitalization and punctuation would be good, too. Where did you learn to write English - Tijuana?
a mexican immigrant with machetes/knives?? really? is this a spin off of his character in desperado? just like Grindhouse, Shorts and every RR movie, minus Desperado. This movie will suck.. Lindsey Lohan is in it for god sake..
people who have to pick out grammatical errors due so because they have no other point to make. as one of the 48% who actually pay to run this country. I think nobody should be a citizen unless you have paid taxes. Sorry parasites are the reason were bankrupt the last thing we need is 10 million more
The Federal Law on the books already says you must carry your green Card at all times. Read it before you flap your face people. Arizona is enforcing what Obama has refused to do and now Hollywood flunkies are the experts on the law? Second Danny Trejo is a FELON who cannot vote. He served 10 in San Quinten
Cygnus, the crowds of Mexican demonstators don't seem to share your feeling of it's "all in fun". R.R. has effectively put white Americans on notice they are in real danger.
This looks like a fun movie I love these cheesy B movies. Unlike others on here I "get" the Rodriguez humor. He makes exploitation movies reminiscent of the stuff we watched in the 70's. I love his movies, I will see this one in the theater, buy the blu-ray and cook whatever dish is in the special features. People need to chill and have some fun. Life is too short for all this political belly aching.
I'll also point out that this was originally just a spoof trailer, but the fans loved the idea so much they demanded he make the movie.
Gotta love it.
I guess Mexican fast-food works wIll be spitting in our food now!. Right Robert?
Funny how those that scream loudest about illegals and jobs being exported are the same folks that want to buy $12 jeans at Wal Mart. You can't have it both ways. See what housing would cost in the boom towns of the south if every trade got a real wage. See what your clothes/appliances/electronics would cost if they were all manufactured by US Citizens making a real living.
Fleiter
By your logic you are not a citizen. If the child of an illegal is born here yet they are not a citizen, then none of us are. because the child's child would not be a citizen either. And so on and so forth...
Robert Rodriguez isn't a Hollywood liberal. He's a Texan.
The villian isn't the white man in here, it's the greedy corrupt politician. If it had been Steven Segal cast as the hero no one would be complaining.
TI MD – they are all honest, hard working people- except for that time they violated international law by sneaking into a country under the guise of night, or that time they remained an international criminal every single day that they spent in the country they entered illegally. This has nothing to do with "Mexicans" as a race- it just so happens that the largest population of illegal immigrants in the US, come from Mexico. This has everything to do with people illegally entering this country, and demanding rights. Until you honor the country you are breaking into, you have no right to demand anything- not even tolerance.
@reality bites –
Per #4, obvious as you didn't.
I mean, oh no you dit-int
Remind me to never read story comments again. The back-and-forth is just ridiculous. Is there any way to turn off the comments CNN, so that I don't have to see this mindless jibber-jabber? It's like arguing with a lamppost – a lot of noise, but nothing productive.
I'm sure half the country will hate this movie and the other half will love it. For me, the movie looks awesome. Enough said.
Amen Reality Bites, also limit federal and state elected position to a max of 8 years. No more corrupt politicians making a career of it. Also lets have everyone on welfare re apply with 2 forms of official id. It would create jobs for all the people doing the paper work and save money from all the illegal’s collecting it. Also lets add a 10 year max to welfare and food stamps unless disabled and its been verified by 2 Dr’s. Also, anyone receiving public assistance must agree to be a organ donor for life.
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Movie.
Discuss.
It’s not hard to understand what needs to happen before the country reaches the point of no return...
1. All illegal immigrants need to be deported period. Doesn't matter what race they are!
2. Children born to illegal immigrants should not automatically become U.S citizens.
3. If your 18 years old you must serve the United States of America by joining the military for minimum of three years.
4. Not everyone citizen should go college. Parents need to wise up and send their children trade school to learn a skill to use for life.
5. Don't be afraid to say out loud that "Muslim Extremist" are our number 1 enemy.
6.Be proud of your country and wear, hold and salute the American flag as if your life and liberty depends on it. (because it does).
7. Vote the liberals that are trying to destroy this country out of office this November.
Timd, your comments were right on! It is so easy to blame Illegal aliens for the ills of this country....as you say, the superrich just keep getting richer. I have no problem with Wealthy Americans. Its just as you pointed out, Many have gotten wealthy by screwing the rest of us over and over. Its amazing to read all these stories written of the billions we have given to bail out all these huge financial conglomerates only to have them turn around and give some of these billions back to themselves in the form of bonuses. Its unbelievable that people are not up in anarchy when these things happen. We simply read about it, get mad and continue living our lives. Meanwhile, the poor powerless immigrants get blamed for everything. What a joke!
Why would wearing an american flag on your shirt cause a riot?
Sounds to me like hispanics in AZ have a guilty conscience...
The new law in AZ does not say to "Harrass people of Hispanic Descent".... stop crying cause your cousin might get deported because he's breaking the law.
It clearly allows Police (you know those people who ENFORCE THE LAW) to check and see if ANYONE is here illegally with reasonable cause. Law does not specify hispanic, Irish, Italian, Russian, German, Chinese, etc....
Anyone here illegally is breaking the law of the Country and therefore should be deported to WHATEVER country they came from. government didn't make this about hispanics, they did themselves. Seriously folks.... put a brain inside that thing they call a head.
@ Jeff:
"I'm mad that 3 children in my country got sent home from school for wearing a t shirt with the American flag on it, just because it is Cinco De Mayo?"
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Why are you mad? Because the riot their parents were obviously trying to start didn't happen?
@ Fleiter–
You brought up so-called "illegals" not paying property taxes. Actually, they DO pay them every time they pay rent on an apartment or house belonging to someone else. The rent I charged on my properties was set at a point to where my mortgages were paid, along with insurance AND taxes (plus a small profit). That is how most smart landlords handle it.
By your argument, only people who own their own homes should be allowed to send their children to public schools. So that would mean that you would exclude every U.S.-born child of legal citizens and education because their parents rent instead of buy?
And, as others have pointed out, concentrating on Federal taxes as the basis for claiming "illegals" don't pay their fair share-I dare you to add up all those other taxes/tariffs/fees that we all pay for goods and services. I know I personally pay a boatload above and beyond the Federal bite.
I also pay Social Security taxes to support old people I have never met. Some of those people haven't worked a day in their lives, but get the benefits through a family member's contributions. I don't notice as anyone is protesting their moms or dads getting "my" money. Since 2003, what there might have been left in the system to pay me later is already gone and, should the program still exist when I finally choose to retire, someone else will have to pay for my benefits. That is how it works in real life.
Good fences make good neighbors.
Hey,
I just want to know when it became a problem with how muich money someone has? Furthermore who are you to say how much money someone needs or can use? Oh...I forgot share the wealth...Right! This is a common theme among Libs that want what other people have and don't want to work to get it themselves. New Lib slogan.. "A chicken in every pot and your money in my pocket"! Pathetic.
This movie was in the works long before this business in Arizona. I like how Fox News is saying that the movie is declaring war on Arizona. I for one am taking as it is, a funny stab at the situation to rattle cages. The movie pays homage to the old B movies that seem to exploit everything and were overtly stereotypical.
it has, not my fault you get hurt so easily. learn a second language. don't be so one dimensional, you'll even get paid more in your career, if you have one 😉
psssh. I'll talk slower just for you. We are talking about illegals here. The others you speak of is for another topic. Take a moment read it again......awww did it sink in yet?
Perhaps we should be more like Mexico and enact our verison of Mexico's Population Law. Article 67 of Mexico's Population Law says, "Authorities, whether federal, state or municipal ... are required to demand that foreigners prove their legal presence in the country, before attending to any issues." So, essentially, no papers, no law rights.
what about weird mid-class rapists and pedifiles filling our prisons?! they make our neighborhoods unsafe.
and for the few that will actually see this movie, who cares what some rich guy has to say!
Fight for what Luis Teixeira? MS 13 the gang that is slowly causing good people to fear everything? Or the growing number of illegals filling our prisons. Or the fact many refuse to learn English? Help us out here
hmm, wasn't this country founded by immigrants?! they killed the natives and moved in. my how we have become a bunch of hypocrites. just sit back and enjoy because according to the census hispanics will be the majority 😀
forget politics...holy cow, when did michelle rodriguez get so dang hot???
A note to James McEfferson- If you actually did such a thing, you have convicted yourself and proves you're a bigger moron than those who think breaking the law is O.K. I just love how people say it's O.K to allow people to cross the border and bring crime with them. But if I were to travel to the pit of hell known as Mexico, I would be arrested and sent back. So again why is this O.K?
I'm not against anyone wanting ti immigrate to the United States... I am against people coming to the United States illegally and refusing to do the same things any citizen of that country would do simply because someone turns a blind eye to it? Wake up idiots, your country is being slowly taken from you and you are saying... "Awww, leave those people alone." Do the right process, be legal and there won't be a problem, there never would be... Arizona just changed the status quo and its far past time someone woke up. I'm native American, how do you think i feel... now come back with some snappy remark... I'm tired of paying for people who refuse to salute the flag I fought and bleed for (served the US Army for 8 years)... I'm mad that 3 children in my country got sent home from school for wearing a t shirt with the American flag on it, just because it is Cinco De Mayo? Screw that, its time to take back what is ours... our country... I claim it because I don't refuse it like an illigal... become a citizen or get out, too simple.
After reading the comments, for the record, I hate you all.
What do I win?
jack w – the issue is not whether alieds should carry id. the issue is the cops are going to be stopping americans with dark skin.
I saw this trailer a few days ago. I thought it was a joke – that is how bad the acting was. What I took from the trailer is that illegal immigrants will kill whoever they have to in order to stay in this country. Real nice.
Thanks for the heads up! I won't be paying my hard-earned AMERICAN dollars to see this flick!
Good for Robert Rodriguez...is a great director and congrats for the movie that shows the real history that pass all the hispanics and immigrants on USA and we need people like you that fight for the hispanic people of this country.....
I ate a hot dog and now I'm gassy.
The people here illegally do pay taxes in many ways. If they buy homes or land they have to pay property taxes yearly like we do. If they rent then the rental building is using part of the rent money to pay for the yearly property taxes. And if they work they get tax deductions from their checks and they don't always file a tax return so the IRS/Government keeps that money. Anything else that they purchase (car, boat, clothes, electronics, appliances) is also taxed so don't say that they don't pay any taxes!
Wow, it's amazing how the press is just absolutely ignoring the facts on this AZ thing. It's a federal law that legal imigrants have to carry their ID and green card. I have good friends who are resident aliens from Canada and they ALWAYS carry ID because it's the law. They took out the part requiring officers to approach people based on if they think they're illegal. Damn, CNN! Report some facts every now and then, will ya!
I saw this on youtube and thought it was a joke, a really good one at that ad when I found out it was real I was amused. Stop tearing the movie apart and learn to laugh once in a while. Just because this movie comes during a time of great debate on immigration deosnt mean that this movie was made for this. Just watch the movie for the hack of it or don't. simple as that.
@ Alex Winter:
"National Council of La Raza's saying: "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" [“For the race everything, outside the race nothing”] would make Adolph Hitler proud."
The NCLR has never endorsed nor propagated that saying. You're propagating an urban web legend. Please check facts before posting inflammatory (and utterly false) comments.
Wow! I can only imagine, but I'm not John Lennon, a day without a Mexican......
It's a movie.
I'll see it.
Flat tax would make the whole issue of illegal aliens fade away.
But nobody wants that, why? Because most of the middle class and the poor pay NO FED TAXES! They get a skate.
I'm all for everyone paying their fair share.
Sales tax? Everyone pays.
Property tax? Everyone pays (even renters, via their rent).
Income tax? CRAZY EXEMPTIONS.
No way 16 million folks are going to be deported (especially since our agribusiness is TOTALLY DEPENDENT ON THEM).
Upset about illegal immigration? Stop buying produce, meat, chicken and pork. These are the people who profit the most from the flow of illegal aliens. Oh, and it's 95% of the wealth of this country is held by 1% of our population.
Love how this has become a political slugfest. Either the US needs to enforce laws on the books (ie illegal entry should be treated as illegal) or they need to just open the borders and say to hell with it. What is silly is the current policy of having rules and ignoring them. It is not an issue of racism. Stop calling people racists...it makes real racists look too good. It is not an issue of corporate america. Corporations have nothing to do with immigration. Just decide on what the right policy is and enforce it!
To Icantbelievewhatiread. Thanks for the clarification. I was attempting to be sarcastic in my original comment, although usually sarcasm fails to translate in the written word. I just thought it was amusing that Hollywood would envision a movie about a violent immigrant vigilante would be pitched as pro-immigration. It is like saying that "The Godfather" is pro-Italian or "New Jack City" is pro-African American.
As to the movie itself, I thought "Grindhouse" with its retro feel was a bit of a let down and feel that this movie is going to be more of the same.
This country has bigger and deeper problems than immigration reform. Illegal immigration wouldn't happen if there weren't jobs to migrate to. The reason that there are jobs to migrate to is because employers want to pay the lowest wages possible to increase their bottom line. Illegals work for less because their illegal status pretty much forces them to take what they can get. Opponents of the immigration reform say that Americans will not do this work. I say they will but not for $4 an hour. If the government raised minimum wage and enforced it accross the board whether you paying illegals or American citizens, you would do alot to level the playing field. The system as it is now is race to the bottom. Sure illegals work cheap but think how they must live to be able to survive on starvation wages.
YEA YEA YEA About time he made the dang movie.....been waiting since I saw Grindhouse where the trailer originally was....knew he was making it just had not heard a release date yet!! And yes – it is a campy B movie – sometimes movies are supposed to be nothing but "fun".
The illegal alien paranoia is the old divide and conquer strategy. When the overwhelming amount of wealth in this country is concentrated in the top 5% of the population, don't you think it's comical to blame illegals? They are trying to turn a class problem into a race problem and it sure looks like it's working to me. The joke is on you people. The right argues that this 5% of the population is just smarter than the other 95%. How does it feel to be considered stupid for not being able to afford your healthcare? This has happened time and time again and people keep falling for this old trick. Watching American history unfold is akin to watching a three stooges marathon.
Well, I am very liberal on most issues. VERY liberal. I have no problem with people immigrating to the United States, from Mexico or otherwise. I DO have a problem with illegal immigrants. I'm sure many of them are decent people trying to make a better life, many are drug dealers, killers, etc too, that could NEVER come legally. And living in GA, it is true that much of the public school's resources are spent teaching children English as a second language. Sad, because my special needs kids didn't get special services until I moved into a better area without poor immigrants. I say that not to put anyone down. There are people of all races in our current district, but there are no poor immigrants and no English as a second language classes. My oldest son just got services this year after 3 years in school, and my younger one has already got services, and this is his first year of kindergarten. It just doesn't seem fair. A lot of things about this issue don't seem fair. A law is a law. If I break any other law and get caught I will have to deal w/ the consequences. I am all for giving aid to Mexico or trying to help our neighbors live better lives, but this is just not fair.
Lots of people want to blame illegal aliens for everything but I can tell you from personal experience, it's almost all baloney. Anybody who has ever worked side by side with a Mexican will tell you, that most of them are the kindest, most honest, hardest working people you will ever meet. Sure, there are a few bad apples in the bunch but nothing compare to the number of bad apples in the predominently old, white power structure. You can't blink without getting ripped off by one of them. You can't trust your utilities, oil companies, automakers, or healthcare providers. Nobody gouges or screws the American worker harder or more often than corporate fat cats are currently. They are the real villains in the equation. But go ahead and blame the Mexicans. Put up a wall and chase them all away. See if that stops you from getting ripped off. Seriously doubt it.
so many morons, so little time.
Looks like even though the studio gave permission to make the video, the legal department didn't get the memo, and has file an infringement claim against itself. The http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y1AbjZIrpk youtube video has been removed due to a DMCA claim... by Fox studios.
James McEfferson - I am not afraid of you.
Jason B.– Kristin was talking about "Really ?"' s spelling of the word illegal (illigal) not yours. She probably thought that you opinion was no very smart...Frankly, I don't think much of people who make exaggerated claims about illegal immigration...they are not all murderers or rapists...that's just demagoguery.
Talking about tax breaks let's not forget the $3 trillion dollars we have given Israel since the 60's...and their standard of living is way higher than owes. Go figure.
What happened to his remake of Red Sonja starring his ex Rose McGowan???
Humanity is so stupid...it needs to be wiped out. Its discussions like this that make me wonder how humans as a species ever made it out of the cave.
hahahahahahahahaaaaa
how about Hollywood actors stick to what they does best...acting. I still can't believe no one reads the actual bill and just goes on what the masses say about it
Alex Winter - you statement "Por la Raza todo, afuera de la raza, nada" is mistakenly attributed to NCLR's.
"Similarly, NCLR’s critics falsely claim that the statement “Por La Raza todo, Fuera de La Raza nada,” [“For the community everything, outside the community nothing”] is NCLR’s motto. NCLR unequivocally rejects this statement, which is not and has never been the motto of any Latino organization"
from their own website: http://www.nclr.org/section/reconquista/
Nuff' said.
I have initiated a virus on this site. As you read this comment your computer is now contracting a Trojan.
-Love James
Really? A white old conservative with more money than they need and can use ... making negative comments on CNN? Really?? Why? GO back to Fox ... Glen Beck has instructions for you.
I remember Danny from grindhouse also good catch Gary I think we are the only 2 to catch that and was in the longest yard with Adam Sandler hes a funny bad guy.Also you people need to lighten and not let a movie take over your lives its just a MOVIE!!!!!!!!!!!!
MM "Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions." This is one of the most closed minded statements I've heard. Tolerance is a virtue, period. The willingness to allow people to think, worship, express themselves differently than ourselves is what this country was built upon. My convictions allow me think for myself and allow others think for themselves. If I we don't agree, that is OK. Respect and tolerance is our only hope to have a survive, lack of respect and tolerance will lead to an even more devisive world. Remain strong in your convictions and allow others to remain strong in theirs.
This movie sounds awesome. I don't care about any stupid political motivations or distractions, it's the art and the true messages that count.
Anyone who admonishes this movie so early in the game is jumping the gun.
I just saw the trailer and had to cringe at just how incredibly bad it is. It's basically a 1970's style "B" Film. As a Mexican-American I find it disheartening that fellow Mexican-American film makers can't seem to get beyond the same old rhetoric. For once, I'd like to see Robert Rodriguez (and others) make something serious with an intelligent storyline and message, because his style filming is just getting really old.
DWYER:
I had to respond to your comment that the middle class is being taxed less now than it has been in 52 years. Wrongo, pal. Fed taxes are just the tip of the iceberg. Where illegals really put the zap on middle class folks is property taxes. That pays for school, schools that many middle class people can't use anymore because their kids don't speak Spanish. If you think I'm kidding, accept this challenge: Find one middle class family in Los Angeles that isn't trying to find the money to send its kids to private school. The public schools are Spanish-speaking war zones. Yet, every English-speaking family in LA is forced to pay school taxes in addition to private school tuition. This has got to stop. No child of an illegal alien should be granted citizenship by birth. No public money should be spent educating the children of illegal aliens. I'm tired of having "sucker" tattooed on my forehead. If that makes me a racist or a nativist, fine. I'll live with it. I'm not, but screw it. If liberals want to call me racist, they can. That doesn't change the fact that my kids need decent schools where English is the primary language, not Spanish. And illegal aliens need to go home and build up their own countries. Funny how they can protest en masse here, but you never see mass protests in Mexico demanding that the government do a better job of providing for its people.
A remake of "Born in East L.A." starring Cheech and Chong?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_in_East_L.A.
Cheech listened to the song "Born in the USA" and mis-heard it as Born in East L.A. and wrote the movie.
Actually, people in this country illegally pay taxes every time they buy something at a store, so yes, they do pay taxes!
Another Director who's future films I can cross off my list. No one cares what his position is, no one cares what his political stance is, and Hollywood needs to get over their arrogance when it comes to these issues. They actually not only expect people to listen to what they say, but actually care about it as well. They are not the foremost authority on anything, especially not politics. Stay out of matters that do not concern you, Mr. Rodriguez, as I highly doubt Hollywood will start hiring illegal immigrants to make films, because they are a bit cheaper than American citizens. I highly doubt he will ever feel the effects of illegal immigration, and much like Seth McFarlane, will never know what it's like to be "middle class America" where you not only get trampled on by the rich, but by the poor as well. To make matters worse, we're now being trampled on by people that aren't even citizens of this country, and never had enough respect to even try and become a legal citizen. Yes, the legalization process is hard. However, breaking international law shouldn't be the answer in any country. Every other country in the world has a policy that requires you to provide proof of residency- why does anyone demand America be different? That's right, it's those directly affected by this that are making the most noise: Either illegal themselves, or related to illegal immigrants. Way to act in your own best interests, instead of the best interests of our nation as a whole.
u people get so riled up about anything. Even a freaking movie has to get politically poisoned by your views. Take that piece of coal out of your a$$e$ people. By now it should be a diamond.
National Council of La Raza's saying: "Por La Raza todo. Fuera de La Raza nada" [“For the race everything, outside the race nothing”] would make Adolph Hitler proud.
CNN is so biased towards liberals it makes Fox News look fair and balanced.
To Kristin. I ran a quick spellcheck on my comment to CNN and it appears to be spelled correctly. The same way as you spelled it – illegal. If I am wrong, my apologies. I do applaud your enforcement of English language. On a related front, I could not locate the word "ya" in Oxford Dictionary.
BTW, I have never told people to "speak English" ... although you have ... just now.
Where would our nation be without the opinions of people who MAKE A LIVING reading scripts! These are people with no greater education or IQ than anyone else thinking they know better than we do. NO THANKS!
"you aren't smart. stop."
"...you whiny schlub."
"Unfortunately, you aren't smart enough..."
"what a moron."
"...not so bright are ya?"
"You've been poor educated..."
Those are direct quotes. Six of the first eleven posts included personal attacks.
That sort of discourse does nothing to illuminate the issue at hand. And it's the reason that media organizations are considering cutting comments off altogether.
hey idiots...muders, rapists, and child molesters pay taxes too...so lets release them all for jail...amnesty for all who brake the law...hey democrates
that hat is dope!!!
The lowest rate in 52 years??? C'mon... Add the taxes on your phone,
sales taxes, property taxes, cable taxes, etc. You're running out of oither people's money. You've been poor educated; likely at an Ivy league indoctrination camp.
"Tolerance is a virtue of a man without convictions."
Jason B- not so bright are ya? Really- it's spelled illegal. I'm sure you spend a lot of time telling people to "SPEAK ENGLISH" so you should probably know how to spell it.
what a stupid idea. i guess mr. movie maker could care less about the citizenship of the people where he lives. i wonder if he carries identification with him when he travels abroad... what a moron. aside from me being sicked by hollywood's need to spout their opinions like they are better than any other citizens, the movie sounds cool...
First of all, Robert Rodriguez is not a Hollywood liberal. His entire persona and career are anti-Hollywood. Secondly, he's not anti-middle class, he started so poor he had to sell his body to science for years to self-finance his early films, and still seemingly "bet's the farm" every time out. He's a sincere American who believes in fundamental human rights for all (complete with bloody revenge fantasies, of course). And lastly, our middle-class is not being taxed-to-death. C'mon, get real. Stop blaming your discontentment on people who simply come here in pursuit of happiness, same as your immigant ancestors. If nothing else, kudos to Rodriguez for being able to keep a good sense of humor about the whole thing!
Really...
The middle class is currently being taxed at it's lowest rate in I believe 52 years. Unfortunately, you aren't smart enough to get past what Rush tells you to believe. Go have a teaparty...preferably at the bottom of a lake.
Apparently you aren't smart enough to gather facts. The middle class is certainly NOT being taxed at its lowest rate in 50 years. You are off your rocker.
My taxes sure are not low. Gas tax, property tax, fees for everything. That is not reality.
This was an over the top spoof trailer within the Rodriguez/Tarintino movie "Grindhouse". I didn't think it was real.
Most illegals are living in poverty anyway, even if they did pay taxes they probably wouldn't end up owing anything.
You are "paying" for them just as you are "paying" for anyone else who gets a tax break and gets taxes back rather than paying them. Get a brain!
Hollywood liberals contribute more to society through charity and taxes than you do, you whiny shlub.
Since Hollywood celebs get free food when they go out, free clothes, watches, shoes, services and they hire high end accountant services to see to it that everything they do is a write off, I am pretty sure you do not know what you are talking about. As a percentage of their income, most rich people pay very little.
Is Machete an illegal immigrant because, if so, wouldn't this be backing the need to crack down on illegal immigrants ... because what I took away from this trailer is illegal immigrants will assassinate US citizens if allowed to remain in the country.
hey Really?
you aren't smart. stop.
Unbelievably, the link for the trailer doesn't work because Fox pulled it from Youtube. Apparently they're not interested in promoting their own movie. No doubt that these are the same guys who canceled "Arrested Development" and "Futurama."
Really?
Hollywood liberals are against the middle class being taxed to death and paying for illigals-because they are RICH! No way!!!