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October 30th, 2009
08:36 AM ET
Rock and Roll wrap up
A long night at Madison Square Garden wrapped up close to 1:30 on Friday morning with Bruce Springsteen belting out "Born to Run" with Billy Joel. The concert started late and the sets were pretty long. Take Stevie Wonder who was on stage for more than an hour and told the crowd that he was there to “turn this mother out!” There were some moments that definitely stood out for me at the end of the night. This is not a young crowd, and I’m sure at least some of them had to be at work in the morning, but it looked like they kept the place pretty full through Bruce’s set. They were flying when Bruce brought out Sam Moore to sing “Hold On I'm Coming.” You may not recognize Moore’s name (he's from the duo Sam & Dave) but you’ve heard his voice, which Bruce called “one of the best voices of all time.” The crowd got louder when the Boss was joined by John Fogerty for “Fortunate Son” and “Proud Mary.” But the favorite moment for the New York audience came when Bruce discussed his theory of continental drift and how that separated Long Island and New Jersey. To reunite the two, he held a “Bridge and Tunnel Summit,” with Long Island’s own Billy Joel. The term comes from how people, who live in New York City, disdainfully refer to their suburban neighbors. Everyone loved the pair singing Joel’s hit “New York State of Mind.” As the concert wrapped up, even the celebrities discovered that it can be tough to get out of the Garden. As I walked out I saw Shania Twain trying to get past some determined autograph seekers and into her car. The concert will air on HBO November 29th, after it’s edited down and combined with another show starring Metallica and U2 scheduled for Friday night. One of the persistent topics backstage was what bands will eventually wind up in the Rock Hall of Fame. So I’ll put it out to you, what acts do you think should be enshrined in the Cleveland museum?
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Correction from anothers earlier post...The Eagles are already members but certainly The Moody Blues must be considered. Is David Gilmour or Pink Floyd yet enshined? It was a wonderful evening of television. Perhaps HBO will give us all the raw footage someday....Which must include some entertaining moments!
Why was stevie wonder crying during the concert?
My two biggest complaints with the ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME are as follows:
1) KISS is ROCK & ROLL... period.
2) Why call it the ROCK & ROLL hall of fame if you are going to include rap??? The only thing Rap has done for Rock is bring Aerosmith out of retirement and make Anthrax look like sell outs.
PAUL McCARTNEY AND WINGS 2010!!!!!!!!!!
Robin Leonard Trower!
X
Bruce and The E street Band, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Van Morrison, Stevie Winwood, Bad Company,
Hall & Oates should be in the R&R Hall of Fame. They are the most successful duo in the rock era. I can't figure out why they're not in there. Are they too derivative? So are 95% of the artists in there.
The Marshall Tucker Band (-Toy Caldwell may be the greatest guitar player of all time. Very few people know this.)
Grand Funk Railroad
Three Dog Night
Heart
The Replacements
Hall & Oates
Poco
Little Feat. One of the tightest, loosest, funkiest, greasiest and greatest bands ever. Lowell George was a genius and the rest of the Feats were not far behind. Just ask any of their fellow musicians what they think of Little Feat. Slide on in fellas. Don't Fail Me Now!
It's a crime that Gram Parsons is still not in the HOF. His influence is legendary- that Keith Richards even let him record "Wild Horses" before the Stones did says quite a lot.
Until the HOF recognizes and enshines RUSH, I will not recognize the Hall. End of story............
Thank-you, Mr. Springsteen, for your song presented by Columbia Pictures, "Searching for My Beautiful Reward." Hope to hear it again.
Good-luck. 11/01/09 Sunday 7:10mst
The Rock N Roll Hall Of Fame is an embarrassment. First of all, it should not be in Cleveland. The fact that the ceremony or any concert is not held there should tell you something. It should be in Philadelphia. Also, bands such as Rush and Chicago not being in is a sham. More so Rush. But REM?????? A big fat joke is what this organization is!!!
Three words: Yes, Kiss, Rush
Dire Straits.
Lynrd Skynrd, Cheap Trick,Deep Purple,Chicago,Yes,Moody Blues,Alice Cooper,Kiss,Journey,Johnny and Edgar Winter, and I could go on and on.
Two words: Little Feat
Dire Straits
Warren Zevon
The Moody Blues
Yes
ELP
Richard Thompson
The E Street Band
Warren Zevon.
J. GEILS BAND!!
It's insane to me that Chicago, the second biggest selling America band in history, is not in. Also insane that Yes and the Moody Blues are not in. But it also doesn't really matter because who really cares.
THE MOODY BLUES! THE MOODY BLUES!! THE MOODY BLUES!!!
RUSH!!!!!! Neil Peart is the greatest drummer of all time! How they are not in the Hall of Fame will remain a mystery to me!
And what determines who has made important contributions to Rock N Roll is what the people think. Not what someone thinks they should think. Hootie and the Blowfish are no more because people came to their sense. KISS has been relevant for more than 30 years, because we, the people said so. Same with Rush. Pinhead magazine editors who got stuffed in lockers in high school should have no more say than you or I....
Tull...Chicago...Blood, Sweat and Tears...Moody Blues...Alice Cooper. I don't think you can put Rush in until Yes is in. And absolutely Heart. All influential and creative. All commercially successful and respected. As a matter of fact, these bands would make a great class of 2011!
Insanity that Rush and KISS are not there already. I think the *people* need to end Rolling Stone's influence on the hall. I cancelled my subscription the first time I saw Britney Spears on the cover. The Hall should not be about politics, but it unfortunately is. Rush is not there because they thumbed their noses long ago at the music establishment, and Rolling Stone in particular. Same with KISS. But you would have to be a complete moron not to know how important both have been to Rock N Roll. Madonna? I thought she was cool back in the day, but her contributions to Rock N Roll? Uhmmm, give me a minute.....
Neal Diamond
Electric Light Orchestra
Grand Funk Railroad
Grass Roots
Guess Who
Steve Miller
Moody Blues
REO Speedwagon
Johnny Rivers
Rush
Styx
Three Dog Night
Bobby Vinton
Yes
and even though their music bums me out; Chicago still deserves it
Rush. Rush not being in the Hall is inexcusable. One of the most influential, and still current and vibrant, acts in musical history and they're not in the Hall? Are you kidding me?!?!?
The Moody Blues need to be enshrined!
Bon Jovi, had the highest paying tour last year, a new song in the top twenty, a new album coming out, still on the top of thier came after twenty six years , 120,000,000 millon albums sold, enuf said. oh and the Moody Blues are way over due as well
What will happen when all those un-inducted greats run out?
Who will be next because Rock n Roll as we know it, is over.
Many of the groups or individuals that are omitted from the Hall aren't leftist "politician" enough.
Chicago.
It is nigh inconceivable that they are not in.
"I wouldn't hold out much hope for the Creedence though."
I am still wondering why The E STREET BAND is not in the Hall of Fame!
Rush. The "Rock Establishment" doesn't seem to respect Rush's achievements. It's not clear what they need to do. They've had 24 gold and 14 platinum albums. They've been influential. They've won humanitarian awards. They've won individual awards for musicianship. They've overcome personal tragedy.
But as one person put it, "Rush wouldn't make Rolling Stone's list of top 10 groups named Rush."
Ok. TOTO, Journey.Stixx.Jude Cole.That would be a nice start
The Moody Blues and Yes should have been selected years ago.
Of the nominees, these artists should absolutely be inducted:
Darlene Love
Jimmy Cliff
KISS
LL Cool J
Those artists were influential and their music has remained vital in the decades following their active periods. It's a shame that we rarely see an artist nominated again after being nominated and not inducted. WAR is an example of a groundbreaking, artistically ambitious and influential band that wasn't able to get in when nominated in a highly competitive year.
Kiss should be enshrined. It's a joke that they aren't. It's the Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame so it should have parameters that alienate a band that has sold countless records, has a name/image anyone from 5 to 80 can speak to & had a legitimate number of hits over the course of 30+ years. It's hard to argue against them, come on, give it a shot. Ok, so their lyrics weren't exactly Shakespeare influenced, they wore facepaint and used theatrics to promote themselves. I can name a dozen artists already inshrined who wouldn't have won Pulitzer's for songwriting. I can name another dozen who should have worn facepaint! There isn't a kid alive who hasn't heard "Rock n' Roll All Nite" or who can't finish that famous verse without thinking twice. Don't you get bonus points for being a band no one can forget? Induct Kiss, it's the right thing to do. That quiet, unassuming guy with the long tongue would agree with me 100%!
Kansas
Yes
ELP
It's about time The Doobie Brothers were inducted!!!!
At least Michael McDonald......
Rush
Dan Fogleberg is long overdue he was a great singer and awesome writer of all his own music.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame – Inductees can be many, but we all have our favorites. I'm 62 and lean toward the groups that sang with music for back up, not the "drown out the voices" music that overshadows any possible vocal talent (sometimes with good reason) and the groups that were more of a "stage show" than anything else. They all fall into various categories (and those categories have no real qualifications). The number of records, sales and longevity are all factors, but we each have our own criteria. By trying to change what Rock and Roll was, we have nearly destroyed the true artisanship of music. (Personal opinion) – A large part of today's stuff isn't worth listening to.
alice cooper without a doubt and the boss
I can't believe Chicago isn't in there. Rush, Tina Turner, Alice Cooper? Come on people. All should have been there already. Did Madonna already get in? If she did, then it's doubly bad that these artists aren't.
Oh, maybe someone can answer this. Bruce Springsteen was inducted. But not originally inducted with E Street. So does that mean E Street's been ignored? I know there's others inducted 2x for solo work and a band.
Whoever suggested Bruce.....he's been there for years.
The Moody Blues and The Turtles.
It is a crime that they haven't been inducted already, and someone should be executed for it. I thought that was why Billy Joel was in Madison Square Garden last night, but apparently they let him go.
todd rundgren
peter gabriel
Johnny and Edgar Winter, and Rick Derringer
Cheap Trick and KISS belong in the HOF.
Who cares about him. He has not talent and certainly can't sing.
I cannot believe that Led Zeppelin has never been inducted. They should be!
The Country Rock genre has been overlooked in general, so Poco gets my nod. Few hits, but a major influence on many bands over the years.
I think Chicago should be inducted. They've sold more albums and been together longer than most acts in the hall.
Two words:
J O U R N E Y
C H I C A G O
'nuff said
The Cult. Ian and Billy were 1-10 years ahead of just about every trend in rock since the SDC days. New wave, metal, goth, grunge... The Cult had evolved past all of these genres before the rest of the world caught on.
KISS belongs in the Marketing Hall of Fame. With Madonna.
The artists I believe have been overlooked are the Hollies, Turtles, Neil Diamond, Searchers, Marvellettes etc.
When will the hall induct Cosimo Matassa, in whose studio rock and roll was truly born?
Two words: The Zombies.
Some great suggestions. I don't think the Moody Blues are in the Hall of Fame which is a huge ommission.
Todd Rundgren....it is not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame without him!
petitiononline.com/toddrund/
Bon Jovi
I'll add 2 more names for consideration that have not been mentioned yet:
Dire Straits-Great group, with one of the best guitarists ever.
If you want to put the "Rock and Roll" back into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, here's a name for you: George Thorogood.
I can understand those longtime fans (of which I am one) that feel Kiss should be inducted, but I am not one that feels they are worthy of the Hall of Fame.
Inducting them, would put them on par with groups like Jimi Hendrix, Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Metallica, Aerosmith and Van Halen. I simply don't agree with that.
The Hall should be about entertainment, true, but you should also strongly, STRONGLY consider artisitc merit. Of which Kiss has very little.
I understand (as Gene Simmons will remind anyone) that they have more record sales than most honorees and more gold records than Elvis or the Beatles, etc, etc. My response to that is: so what?
The Hall of Fame isn't about record sales is it? Otherwise we'd be counting Billy Ray Cyrus, Celine Dio and Hootie and the Blowfish as Hall of Fame locks.
And I think we all know they are far from it.
I can appreciate what Kiss has accomplished, their fanbase and their longevity, but at the same time, I DO NOT feel their legacy should be considered on par with the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, the Who, Cream, Led Zeppelin, U2, REM or Pink Floyd.
While I can agree there are inductees that do not belong in the Hall, inducting Kiss doesn't right those wrongs.
Rush.
It is unfathomable to think that Rush isn't in the Hall of Fame. Their absence makes me question what the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame values. 30-plus years of original, non-recycled music is tough to find in the industry. Furthermore, the relevance of their work is timeless as I've grown up with Rush and I find myself appreciating their work on many levels as I move through my lifespan.
What about Chicago? They put in groups like Madonna, who are not rockers at all. What's up with that? Too much politics.
The Moody Blues are long overdue for enshrinement.... 40 plus years of outstanding music and still on the road every year... Looking forward to their east coast tour next spring...
The shunning of prog rock is a disgrace! Just for starters, try Yes and King Crimson.
Rush, Kiss, Journey, Peter Frampton
The Hall needs Rush and Kiss but Rush and Kiss don't need the hall.
Until they are in, the Hall is a joke.
Alice Cooper!!!! There is an original. numerous gold albums. there was no goth before him. bowie, manson, culture club, kiss owe everything to alice!!!!
I'm 18, Welcome to my nightmare, Schools out, Only women Bleed, poison, no more mr nice guy, billion dollar baby, ....... come on alice is the man.
I think it's awful that Yes is not in the hall. 41 years and still sounding great.
The Cure
Rush
Husker Du
Cheap Trick
I do not own any Kiss records but how can they be out?
"Toe sing"? Doesn't anyone proofread anymore?
Sam Moore is from Sam & Dave. This probably should have been noted. In fact, by the way it was written, I'm wondering if the writer knew this or faked his way through it. Also, the song is called "Hold On, I'm Comin", not "Hold On".
"Blog" is not an excuse for poor writing.
"The Hollies" definately! They were one of the most innovative groups of the 60's British movement. So many terrific hit songs too.. "Long Cool Woman In A Black Dress" still holds up well and "He An't Heavy He's My Brother" was The Hollis hit the first time around. I really hope they win. They are over due.
Sounds like a good show, but this article needs serious editing.
Cheap Trick. Still putting out quality music 35 years later. Influential on both 80s metal and grunge music, believe it or not, as cited by Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Weezer, Green Day, Guns N Roses, Stone Temple Pilots, Pearl Jam, Motley Crue, and Alice in Chains. One of the best live albums of all time, Live at Budokan, which influenced numerous other artists to do "Budokan" live albums (Dylan, Ozzy). Bass player from Cheap Trick invented the 12-string bass guitar. All-time classic songs: Surrender, I Want You To Want Me, Dream Police, Gonna Raise Hell. Yeah, I think they belong.
Oh, and Rush definitely.
i'm not sure why we're inducting bands from the 80s, when we still haven't inducted some huge bands from the 60s and 70s.. the guess who, three dog night, the doobie brothers, BTO, ELO, foreigner, chicago, dan fogelberg, eagles, fleetwood mac, george harrison, supertramp,
Alice Cooper anyone? Pretty much the man and group that kept rock and roll entertaining all these years. Made it easy for other bands that wanted to express themselves not only musically, but visually as well. Brilliant music and lyrics...and much like Bruce and the E Street Band, show no sign of slowing down. And would never, ever be caught lip-syncing during their shows, which cannot be said for many "artists" performing as of late.
I second Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman.
It's also about time for Bernie Taupin – how on earth did Elton ever get in without him???
Iron Maiden and Judas Priest should be in. Rush should have been in a long time ago, and my god KISS belongs there. It amazes me that groups like the Pretenders or Pattim Smith have been honored, yet KISS a band that has actually effected Pop Culture, has been left out. You wanted the best? Well then honor Kiss!!!
How Rush isn't already a HOF member is a mystery.
Grand Funk Railroad should be in the H.O.F.
While I understand there is a collective group of people that do not think KISS may be talented – they have entertained many for over 30 years and have been eligible for the past 10 years. Dave Marsh, a writer for Rolling Stone and a Board member on the Hall of Fame has publically announced his dislike for the band and his desire to keep them off the ballot – because HE DOES NOT LIKE THEM and thinks that they were never a good band and never will be a good band.
Again – I understand there are a lot of people who do not like KISS. It is understandable – but do you know that they have NEVER been on the cover of Rolling Stone? NEVER. And while I know people may not like them – there are many less talented people who have graced the cover of Rolling Stone – SEVERAL times. Some of these talentless people have also gone on to be inducted into the Hall of Fame.
KISS's Paul Stanley has always thumbed his nose at the HOF, stating that it was an ol' boys club who have never liked the group.
Now – they have been nominated. As a long time fan of theirs, I am excited for them and at the same time I hope they turn it down. For them to turn it down though, the industry would look at them as being snobs. For me, it's as though the kickball team has finally come to the last of the picks on the playground and have LONG LAST nominated KISS.
To hell with them. KISS has entertained MILLIONS of people over the past 3 decades not to mention our troops overseas. They have inspired MILLIONS of people to pick up a guitar and learn music. While some might not like their music – they indeed have their roots in the rock world and have deserved that recognition.
The group on the board of directors think so highly of themselves and have created this CLUB where they let their favorites in.
Several groups have not been nominated based on the Board's likes or dislikes. Whether you sit there and think that KISS is a commecialized juggernaut or a 30 year old gimmick – it does not matter; KISS has been around entertaining for 35 years and still continute to put on one of the best shows in rock history. And while that might not sit well with the almighty Dave Marsh and Jan Wiener, you have to consider what this is about – it's about ROCK AND ROLL, not a Nobel Peace Prize.
Put the Cars in for crying out loud! Outstanding, unapologetic pop band who had a solid eight years of hits. Why is the HOF being so snobbish about it?
Rush, ask any drummer and musician
Heart, ask any Seattle band
Tom Waits.
This concert was a fundraiser. They were able to bring in big, big bucks by holding it n NYC with stars on stage and stars in the audience. My $250 seat was relatively mid-level. And worth every penny.
Rush should have been inducted 10 years ago.
And seriously, it's terrible that this concert was held in New York instead of Cleveland where the Rock Hall is. Oh, that's right. There's an "annex" to the Rock Hall in NY now. This just further makes my hatred of everything New York burn even more.
Tommy James. Yes. Badfinger. Big Star. The Replacements. Hüsker Dü.
New York Dolls and the Stooges
How 'bout a few props for the E Street Band. All of them are great musicians in their own right! Roy Bittan · Clarence Clemons · Nils Lofgren · Patti Scialfa · Garry Tallent · Steven Van Zandt · Max Weinberg · Danny Federici
BTW – Cleveland always gets the shaft. GREAT Hall of Fame! Shows should be in Cleveland!!! It is the HOME of Rock and Roll.
The following are eligible now and are overdue for induction:
Deep Purple
Rush
The Commodores
Hall and Oates
Gram Parsons
Alice Cooper
Joe Cocker
Donny Hathaway
Steve Winwood
Roxy Music
ABBA
Doug Sahm
Tina Turner
Judas Priest
Television
Heart
Chic
The Cure
Joy Division
Iron Maiden
INXS
Ozzy Osbourne
Depeche Mode
Lionel Ritchie
New Order
The Replacements
Beastie Boys
Janet Jackson
Bon Jovi
The Smiths
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Whitney Houston
One word: Rush!
Given the fact that the Dave Clarke 5 were inducted a couple of years ago how about Tommy James and the Shondells, Paul Revere and the Raiders or Three Dog Night. All were much better than the DC5.
LOS LOBOS. Period. End of discussion.
Why does this concert take place in NYC when the Rock and Roll Hall is in Cleveland? Holding the concert elsewhere seems to undermine the original facility and disrespect the host city – Cleveland. Why can't the "heavy hitters" get on planes and support the Hall where the headquarters is located – and don't get me started on the New York RNRHOF "satellite" – what's wrong with the original?
BOSTON should definitely be in the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!!!!!!
I think Kiss should be in. They are a rock band to start with which not all the inductees are and they made a contribution to the course that rock and roll took in the last 30 years. They are excellent entertainers and although I am not an excellent judge of musical ability, I know what I want to watch and what I want to listen to.
Most definitely::: The Boss, Bruce Springsteen
Peter Mills.Johannesburg South Africa
Meat Loaf and Jim Steinman for the Rock Hall of Fame!
“Big Wheels Keep on Turning”? Don't you mean "Proud Mary"?