Note: This post contains spoilers for the June 2 episode of HBO's "Game of Thrones."
The penultimate episodes of "Game of Thrones" have always left fans talking, but "The Rains of Castamere" may have taken the red wedding cake.
Sunday's episode not only killed off the King in the North and fan favorite Robb Stark (Richard Madden), but also his mother Catelyn (Michelle Fairley) and, most brutally of all, his pregnant wife Talisa (Oona Chaplin).
The depiction of the "Red Wedding" (as it's known in the books) has the power to elicit a strong reaction that even the creator of the TV show didn't know how to handle.
"In the book, when the band starts playing 'Rains of Castamere,' you know something bad is going to happen," co-showrunner David Benioff told EW.com. "It's the strongest physical reaction I've ever had to reading anything."
Yet the hidden benefit of such an intense episode, said Benioff's cohort, Dan Weiss, is that it's "the kind of thing that hammers home that everybody’s life is precious and precarious. When you can’t take for granted that a character you love on the show is going to be around forever, it makes you pay more attention to them."
Indeed, fans of the series nearly took down the Internet with their emotional reactions to Sunday's "GOT." The response was so overwhelming that there's now a Twitter account pooling together all of the outcry called @RedWeddingTears.
However, George R.R. Martin (the author of the books the TV series is based on) believes it's important to feel this passionate about the many characters that make up the fantasy series.
"You should care," Martin also went on to tell EW.com. "If somebody dies and you just go get more popcorn, it's a superficial experience isn't it?"
Ohmygod.. Grow up! This is not Harry Potter, you bunch of babies! This is a story written for adults. Good people DO die. People we like and admire DO die. Go read Twilight if you can't deal with a real, adult story. Better yet, read a book!
Why are you all complaining? "Im never watching GOT again" thats bull, this is what happens in this series. Its an intense series and an intense one too, yes this was surprising but this level of violence is expected in this series, stop whining and deal with it.
Before "the king in north" being brutally killed, I liked this show. After he and his mother were killed, this show has become indifferent to me-whatever, good guys all died.
THEIR ONLY CONCERN IS IF YOUR PAYING THE TAB...OTHERWISE TELL THAT FAT PIG HACKER
TO STFU...EVERYONE HATES HER AND WE ARE ALL SICK OF HER....HER NO M...HER
Really guys, i haven't read any of the book on GOT, but this is enough in first series eddard stark got killed, and story lost its weight, then 5 stories are going simultaneusly, reaching to no point, and now Robb is killed, whats going on man, just finish the series soon with some happy endings. I request you people to see spartacus, it also not having happy ending which disspoint me but it was far interesting and coupled with the story line.
"happy endings" there are no happy endings in the books so far. My advise? don't get attached to any of the characters.
If you think this has a happy ending, then you haven't been paying attention.
WInter is coming is what is happening. Those who read the series know what's going to happen and thus even though it's shocking they know not to get mad at the director of the series and can still enjoy the show.
LIKE YOU KNOW HIM 6 YEARS AND COULD HAVE DONE IT THEN--HE MUST KNOW YOU BY KNOW EVEN WITHOUT KNOWING YOU HE STILL KNOWS YOU
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DID YOU JUST READ THE PART WHERE JOHN SNOW GETS MURDERED BY THE MEN ON THE WALL AND DANY IS CAPTURED OUT IN THE DESERT BY AN ENEMY KHALEESI?
Brianne isn't dead. I suspect Jon Snow isn't either. Melisandre will save him.
GET THE HELLING OUTTA HEAR YOU ROUTER CRASHING EVIL BEETCH
What got to me the most is that in the books there is NO Talisa. Robb marries Jeyne and she is left behind at Riverrun. HBO and the film crew decided to kill her off. Jeyne was NOT pregnant in the book. Walder Frey was really angry that Jeyne was not there at the wedding in the book. I don't know If he goes after her or not since book 4 departs from the regular story line and brings in all new characters. I just started it last night. But all of you will be pleased with how the rest of book 3 goes I think. I won't give anything away but I do think you will be pleased.
That ain't Lester. I'm tellin' ya.
This was the worst episode of GOT. It is almost like the writers had something to prove. Or that ratings are slightly down and they needed to revamp storylines and characters. This episode as a whole represents the desperate attempt to shock without the consequences of the storyline. This is the beginning of the end of GOT. And this is definitely the last GOT episode I watch.
You do know that this show is based upon (and closely follows) a book series, most of which was written/published long before the writers scripted thiscepisode, right? So it's not like the show's writers are pulling a fast one and going for shock value just for the ratings. Maybe you should do a little research before spouting off moronic statements.
Thats the reason i stopped reading GOT, you create these great characters and we (readers) put our hearts and imagination into them and then you jus tkill them off.
SEASON 1 IS LIKE A TRAINED SEAL...WHATEVER WE DO TOO IT - IT THINKS IT WINS....
I always wondered what happened to my old pal Charlie McCarthy. Good for him!
CIARANJ-I suggest you read Something...Anything. Maybe start with the Dick and Jane books. Why? Because I haven't ever had such incrediable grammer and spelling problems but maybe 4th graders! Wow...People just continue to amaze me, and how they make it through life. Maybe too much TV IS your PROBLEM.... And try to control your anger. I don't know what type of life you had growing up...I'm not blaming you directly....
Who are you talking too/about?
You should learn how to spell before criticizing others.
I had a Danny O'Day puppet when I was little that looked just like the one in the picture.
Well now...that was a hot 'A' mess...however at least it didn't end up like the book where they sewed a wolf's head onto Rob's body or vice versa, what difference does it make at that point....OMG...what an episode that was...can we kill off King Joffrey in the finale??? Now that will make up for all this drama and madness of Sunday night...jeepers that was like getting ice cold water thrown on you while you're sleep...crazy just crazy!!! but what happened to Jon Snow? He got on that horse and got the he l l out of there...ha...and left the wildling female in the dust...or dirt I should say...can someone please pass the soap??? Those are some dirty people...lol
Can't wait until the finale...please let it be Joffrey...please...or even Sansa...the girl has no balls..she's really useless...
Good back and rewatch the episode. I am not sure if your were joking but the wolf head was there. As for Jon Snow, he made it to the camp and they took him in for help or to watch him die, not sure which.
I agree that King Joffrey's head needs to come tumbling down. Bet his grandfather puts him down.
Loved the books ... eagerly awaiting book six...Loving the HBO series too.
It really make no sense at all.....the "KING in the NORTH" had no badA$.$.King's Guard and "secret-service" style security detail to clear/secure and guard the location/perimeter/etc.....really just a family run, mom & pop style King/Ruler/General/....it was god awful what happened to them and all the best people on this show are routinely the ones that die (which is beyond bizarre ridiculousness).....but in hindsight he had it coming to him and he had no business running around ruling anything in that civilization with his experience/intelligence/capabilities. He would have needed about 10 more years tutelage under Ned Stark in wartime conditions to be anywhere near prepared to take on what he got himself into. Ya think that set-up move woulda ever worked on Daenerys T. Uh-uh.
In the episode when they passed around the bread and salt they were ensuring that they were safe in his home. This was one of the oldest and most sacred traditions. Without this no one would ever be truely safe in some one elses castle. The Frey family lost all their honor after the Red Wedding in the books.
that's a cool puppet? I wonder if he does that bit where it tells a joke or sings while he drinks a glass of water? That would be awesome!
its just learning more of the juiced up truth
Why is the guy in the photo holding a ventriloquist puppet while riding a horse? Is he some kind of traveling entertainer, like a minstrel?
Oh my, you commented on a show that you obviously know nothing about. That makes you a troll. Anyone that has watched the show knows who Arya is, as well as the Hound who has captured her.
I saw the episode, Why, and you will never believe it - that puppet got down and walked around all by itself...ALL BY ITSELF! The puppeteer guy on the horse wasn't even in the scene with it while it moved around and talked. I don't know - it didn't look like CGI to me. Maybe the Jim Henson people were behind it or something, but it looked VERY CONVINCING.
good directing though.
That was without a doubt one of the very best episodes (of any kind) that I have ever seen on TV. It's days later and I still can't stop thinking about it – now that is what FANFKNTASTIC directing/acting/filming is all about. Bravo, bravismo to the GoT crew! Can't wait for next week's episode.
WINTER IS COMING!! or is it? Killing off Rob was gonna happen, now I want to know when Geoffry is going to get his the little s%^&. Guess I should read more t han the first book.
Oh yes indeed! I will throw a party to celebrate the death (or brutal castration) of that demented little twerp. I just hope Arya is the one to take him out, she deserves that opportunity. No, I'm not reading the books, I love the acting too much to mess things up at this point.
I think they should bring my character to the GOT show...After I mowed down down some people from Woodberry, I know I could take on the Lannisters!
I love how folks are all "GRR" he's such a genius, when in reality all the character deaths are simply a lazy plot device to help him keep the over bloated story on track. Killing characters to be "edgy" may have been revolutionary oh maybe 15 years ago when he started this overwrought opus, but seriously, anyone who can say he hasn't descended into miserably boring dreck after making it all the way through Dance is deluding themselves. A compelling story needs compelling characters, unfortunately Martin manages to lose all of his through attrition, without regard to replacing them with any even remotely close. Viewers of the series have a bit to wait before this occurs. I don't fault his style, just his skill.
Oh please. He didn't just kill off "Some character". He killed off the characters leading the North in the civil war.
Now there is no civil war. THAT is a game changer.
I was speaking more toward the series as a whole. Sure, the particular plot point you mention is significant, but in the grander scheme it becomes less so as the story continues. As I don't know how far you might be, I won't play the spoiler, but as things progress it becomes clear that Martin is running short on imagination enroute to an ending he obviously is working toward. The twists get predictable, the deaths lend themselves to a certain dullness, maybe its just a numbing effect as the shock that accompanies the earlier surprises gives way to a realization that its all the tension is going to be resolved in the same manner. Again, nothing wrong with killing people for effect, it just loses its punch when its the only tool in your repertoire.
Naw. I think about where he left off in Dance. Pretty good stuff. He left you hanging big time, especially with Jon, and I shudder to think of how Sam is gonna get out of the mess that running his mouth to the wrong people got him into. I also am stoked to find out how the Lady Alayne, and her 'Sweet Robin' manage to deal with the plans of her 'father'. GRRM really needs to finish though. His slack is unforgivable, but I don't think he will have a problem making the final books epic.
Tell you what – when you write something – anything – that is as successful as these books, then bring on the criticism.. it might have some validity then... right now? Not so much. Sour grapes or a legend in your own mind. One or the other for certain…
I want his money folks....like i know the throne 6 years i could have done it then
I VOTED AS; MAROON 1
And for HBO's next trick, they are going to recreate the Tate LoBianca murders in graphic detail with Charlie as creative consultant. Bloody is yes, part of the story, but blood porn is for silly slasher films.
My sundays consist of GoT at nine pm and followed by Mad men at 10. This episode completely killed mad men for me. Holy cannoli to the "red wedding"
I wonder how much the season finale follows the 3rd book.
If so..... :)
That scene was not one I wanted, but they tell you from the beginning that no one is safe in the game of thrones. I hope people do not quit watching because of that episode. There is so much more to come, and HBO is doing a great job with the special effects and filming. You can't be upset with HBO because of the plot of the books. All that is happening is going to present itself later on down the road.....if you decide to read the books or not is your choice, either way, the story is very interesting.
Yes, but the Characters of the North of the Wall are some of the more interesting and yet they are getting short shift. And I'm po'ed that they killed the wolf.
While the series is rather brutal, it really does make you appreciate the characters that die. The Starks are still alive and kicking. Don't quit now, it only takes one Stark to fix this evil mess. Mom and Dad knew just exactly how to raise their Children.
It's ok Catelyn isn't really dead.
Actually, that's not true. Catelyn Stark is really dead... She just doesn't *stay* dead and an argument can be made that what "comes back" isn't really her at all.
Yeah Catelyn's dead. I really wouldn't say that Lady Stoneheart has anything more than a physical resemblance to Cat.
i was so shocked by last night episode. i just sat on the edge of my set not knowing what to do, it felt like i was all a dream. Now i really want to read the books :(
Hopefully you will. It's a great series and while there a few deviations from the original plot, it's not enough to really change the series.
I know exactly how you feel. Even though I knew it was coming, I felt sick after seeing it. Robb was my favorite character. I hope Dany doesn't die anytime soon.
In the 1st episode of the 1st season, the show introduced us to characters we cared about. They're now all murdered and creapy characters are left alive (even creepy hateful women with dragons) who no one cares about. ... Except for the little girl from the 1st episode who had to survive by dressing like a boy. I SERIOUSLY suggest you stop watching this show, because someone will slice this little girl's throat open like they did everyone else you cared about... I just pressed "DELETE" from my DVR tapings. If you don't want to get upset, stop watching. I blame the book that no no read. HBO is going to a dark place.
You sir, are an idjit.
If you want happy endings with butterflies and flowers, go watch the Chronicles of Narnia. If you want to watch a realistic fantasy program, watch GOT.
Arya can take care of herself, don't worry.
Maybe you just cared about the wrong characters from the start.
"blame the book that no [one] read..." Are you referring to the books that are multiple best sellers, and, as a series, have sold over 15 million copies worldwide?
P.S. Jon Snow is still alive on the show. Last time I checked, he was a pretty big fan favorite too.
What did you expect from this show? This is great programming and it's going places no other show has ever even considered going before. I"m sorry that you wanted a "good should always triumph" archetype, but the genius of the books (and show) is that it eloquently shows how naive those tropes are. The ruthless are far more likely to win, not the honorable and gentle.
Please speak for yourself and not me kthx
You are missing something. Spoiler alert! Go watch yo gabba gabba.
How about you hit 'delete' on this thread so we don't have to listen to any more of your whining...
I thought it was an awesome ending. And if you don't like the violence, there IS a warning about the content at the beginning of the show. And it's medieval times. Life was brutal then. If you don't like it, I'm sure that the Golden Girls are on Lifetime.
For all you book snobs, I've read the books twice and this scene STILL shocked and saddened me. So get down off your high horse and show a little respect to the show-only fans.
Ditto. I haven't read the books, decided to just relax and enjoy the show. I have two friends that have read them and they constantly compare and act like they know more than than the rest of us. Very irritating. :-)
They're not acting like they know more than you...they actually do know more than you because they've read the books.
Ha everyone is so shocked ive know about this for about two years now, dose anyone read the books!!!!
NO! I haven't read the books, there is no rule or law that says I have too. I just want to enjoy the show, so yeah, I was surprised. Why does it annoy you that I haven't read the books? Get off your high horse and let others enjoy the story they way the want too whether it be books or TV.
Ha wow glad you got that off your chest.... I do'nt remember saying that it annoyed me that people hav'nt read the books OHHH WAIT cause i did'nt say that... I could'nt care less if you've read them or not... I guess what I was trying to say, is I did'nt understand how it was such a big secret that they die when the show is based on books and never waver's from them books i thought it was common knowledge but i guess it not so cool it peebles....
CNN is actually shocked about the wedding episode...Read the books geniuses....no surprises here.
There are people who haven't read the book and knew it was happening. There are things that happened that didn't happen in the book and also, there's the visual aspect of it. Reading the books is not the answer to the outcry of emotion due to last night's episode. Let the fans feel what they feel and maybe next time don't be a dick about it.
"Read the books, geniuses." Some people don't like spoilers. I will read the books when the show is over, so that every event in the show is a refreshing surprise. Then, if the books are better than the show, I can enjoy the story a second time.
Catelyn will get plenty of vengeance, don't worry.
Talisa, probably not so much. Robb, certainly not so much.
Errrr. All 3 are dead!
Am I the only one who feel bad about this episode?
I've read the books, and yeah I was upset. I love the show. But giving up after last night? Don't stop watching, there's so much more to watch!
Oh boo your favorite characters died? Not all of them. Everyone loves Arya, you're going to miss that! Tyrion. Jon Snow. I love Danny (those her is getting to the point of not wanting to listen to hers anymore, but then they put a face to Daario!)
But there's so much to the whole series than 3 people.
Why would anyone want to watch a show when their favorite characters's throats were slit with knives? So I'm left with that creepy king with the weird daughters sitting at that throne? Iwwww! No thanks.
Well, no. He isn't a king, and you never really see him or his daughters again.
It is all a dream Robb is having. Ha, Ha.
I never got into this series. I would assume that you can rent all the seasons, right? Is it worth the watch? Ok, now I would like to know from somebody who watches it, is that the "happy couple"?
it is totally worth watching. i have watched the series form beginning to present numerous times to get my friend hooked, i love watching it every time, but like i tell them, you have to get past the 5th episode of the first season, if you can do that, then you will be hooked. i have seen it time and time again. i am also reading the books, i am currently on the 3rd book (which this season and next is based off of) and the books are worth every penny, True masterpieces!
if you have cable and have HBO you can go to HBOGO.com and you can watch every episode when you want. you just have to let them know who your cable provider is and you account number, they never charge and everything is free on there.
Thanks, Anthony, for the info. I'll have to put that on my summer to do list. I appreciate your comments.
I have no idea why I would want to watch this show anymore, after the wedding episode. I think I'm done – cancelled from my VCR.
What, is this 1989 or something? Can you even buy video tapes anymore?
I hope you mean DVR.
then you are going to miss Caetlyn starks resurrection by the red priest.
wow who cares! For every one of you, there are 1000 of us who love the show for the scenes like this one, where unlike normal bland TV you never know what to expect.
That whole VCR thing was great.
I don't want to read the books. The TV show is enough for me.
I'm going to listen to the books on 8-track in my car.
The show is smarter than you, hence why you are upset.
This is your third post about not watching anymore. Are you looking for someone to beg you to come back? If you can't handle it...move on!
Off my Betamax!
Best thing about this show is all the bare asses and B( o )( o )BIES.
It's called read a freaking book...
Careful you don't fall of that horse...it's awfully high.
What the heck are you talking about? No one cares your an Obamabot so why not give it up and try staying on topic for a change.
People like you deserve a worse fate than the Starks.
Oh my, that wasn't very nice. You must have a small penis.
Well that really does cover a large spectur of pleasures. Romance and foul stenches. You should be proud that you've run the gammit.
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