CBS apologized to its viewers on Sunday after receiving criticism for a recent "The Amazing Race" episode set in Vietnam.
The reality competition, now in its 22nd season, visited the country for its March 17 installment. One segment took place at a war memorial in Hanoi and included footage of a wrecked U.S. B-52 bomber. Participants, who were looking for clues at the location, also heard a North Vietnamese Communist song.
The segment brought in upset responses from some viewers, including open letters from the commander in chief of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, John Hamilton, and American Legion National Commander James Koutz.
"I hope you can understand our anger at a show that wasted a golden opportunity to educate as well as entertain," Hamilton wrote to CBS president and CEO Les Moonves. "The scene with the B-52 wreckage could have been used to tell a story about what was then America’s longest war, about the 58,195 American names on the Vietnam Wall, about the 1,652 Americans still listed as missing-in-action, or about the fates of the multiple crewmen aboard each of the 17 American B-52s we lost in combat. The B-52 scene, as well as the young people singing a propaganda song, was totally unnecessary to the show’s plot, which speaks volumes about naïve producers who think they’re in charge when they are not."
Koutz wrote, "What wasn’t shown were the U.S. crewmembers that were killed or the grieving American families that were left behind. The Department of Defense is encouraging Americans to honor and commemorate our Vietnam War veterans for the sacrifice that they made 50 years ago. The American Legion takes this obligation very seriously."
In response, CBS and "The Amazing Race" apologized for the scenes ahead of Sunday's edition of "The Amazing Race."
“Parts of last Sunday’s episode, filmed in Vietnam, were insensitive to a group that is very important to us: our nation’s veterans. We want to apologize to veterans – particularly those who served in Vietnam – as well as their families and any viewers who were offended by the broadcast," the statement said. "All of us here have the most profound respect for the men and women who fight for our country."
On "The Amazing Race's" Facebook page, viewers seemed divided over the reaction the segment has received. Some understood Hamilton's point of view, and noted how offensive they found the scenes.
"Glad they posted this as it was very offensive for a child of a Vietnam Veteran to see and hear that song!" said one Facebook user.
"I was appalled," said another. "I remember the (war) like it was yesterday and my family was deeply scarred by it. I'm glad they issued an apology, at least."
Others, meanwhile, said those offended were overreacting.
"Get over yourselves!" said one viewer. "This is a show to showcase the world, not to walk on eggshells because some a******s might get a tad too prissy."
"This was nice of CBS. I had two brothers who fought and served over there but I in no way found it offensive," said one Facebook user. "This Navy Mom will say it again, it's always good to see other countries and their cultures. Makes ya see just how GREAT our country truly is!"
A viewer named Debra tried to find a middle ground: "For those who say no reason to apologize, let's just put this another way – have you ever said or done something personally wrong (or perceived wrong) that offended or bothered somebody. Perhaps a friend or acquaintance? When you find out you are the cause of their anger, do you apologize and say that wasn't your intention? Or do you say get over it?"
Both the American Legion's Koutz and the VFW's Hamilton have accepted CBS's apology, and so has Sen. John McCain.
"CBS did the right thing by apologizing for #AmazingRace Hanoi episode," the Vietnam war vet tweeted on March 25. "We all make mistakes – the issue is closed."
Did you catch last week's "Amazing Race" episode? If so, what did you think?
At sixteen I had a husband who was eighteen fighting in the Vietnam War. Being so young and not really having a worldly understanding, my young husband gladly went to serve and to help another country who asked for our.help so they could live in freedom just as we did.I can't say that I truly understood the depth of importance, of what really was going on in that War but the pain of the nightly news was just as tramatizing for the family's. They would watch sometimes in hope that they would see their son in hope that he was ok or they would be afraid they would see something worse. The young men had to go to War that was plain and simple. If refused you were branded. Both country's lost, family's lost. Young men lost,There were so many people who suffered on both sides everyone suffered the price of this War, with the exception of a few. Men and Women and Children as with any war the cost was just beyond,beyond. We are all human and we love and treasure our Family's. I'm a old lady now and I still don't understand why in the world we have to inflict such harm on ourselves and destroy this gift of life. I guess as long as their are humans who have the need to control and want power.I suppose but hope (Not True) there will always be wars and lives will be lost and countrys will be destroyed. I have great compassion for the loss of both sides the Men,Women and the Family's who all lost, I know what they went through everyday,every night,my husband was injured so he was sent home but was never the same after that. War is not a temporary event it can last a life time, for some you never can get past the trauma it can stay with you and it can visit you without an invitation. yes I also have compassion for those youngsters who seem to be harden to this war or any other war or devastating event. They say wisdom comes with age,one day they will have their own story I hope that it will be a lot different than it has been. War is a de-ease it doesn't just affect the country that's fighting, it affects the whole world, and then....... everyone becomes ILL!
the war for a lot of are Vets. have not gone away and the PTSD is real my brothers....thanks American legion ....was there in 68.....
Though we lost over 58,000 American Soldiers, we killed over 1,000,000 communist soldiers. We might have lost the political war, but we sure as heck won the military one.
I don't think we won the military war either my friend. A lopsided count in KIA alone does NOT determine a "winner". The US lost in part because it never had a plan. We decided that we could do it better than the French. The VietNamese, while losing a million or more people, proved otherwise. They have the land, for better or worse, not us or any other Western (or Eastern for that matter) country. We ALL lost in one respect because when those of us who WERE in combat, or even REMFS, came home, we were treated like the lowest of low and in hindsight, the money and manpower expended was a total waste. The only benefit was to the military types who gained promotions and political capital to continue on their aimless and misdirected way killing more people "in the name of god and country". And yes, the g is in lower case for a reason~
Uneducated Americans.....hahahaha....always the same with you guys! Get over it and look at what you did in Vietnam 40 years ago. Don't get me wrong, America is a great country indeed but there is so much ignorance and nationalism in this country it's just sad. I live in Vietnam as a foreigner since many years and we all can take a lesson from these people.
I understand it now, when we celebrate our war victories with monuments to the fallen at Stone Mountain, the Battle of the Little Bighorn, Normandy American Cemetery and Memorial, pick your battles and sites, it's okay; when we celebrate our victories over the vanquished with merriment, songs and poems that enshrine our greatness into history and into the folklore of future generations, that's commendable; and when we tell the world how grateful they should be that we exist when we free their country from the yoke of tyranny, it's okay. However, when another country celebrates their victory over us – freeing themselves from the yoke of our tyranny – the world is suddenly coming to an end because these strange people with foreign accents don't realize that our pain is greater than theirs; that our soldiers deserve more respect than theirs; that our civilian casualties are more important than theirs; that are suffering is all that matters. We may have a great country that many people wish to come to, live in and find a place to call their own; but it's not the only one on the planet and we aren't the only inhabitants of this planet, either.
And for those of you who still can't accept our defeat, be happy that we don't have monuments on our soil celebrating the North Vietnamese's victory in the American war, like the Germans have of the Russians defeating them in WWII. Interestingly enough, what to do with the monuments and how long they could stay in the former East Germany was one of the sticking points of reunification.
I guess everybody likes to celebrate their victories.
This is the bottom line for me: Communism is a violation of human rights and Amazing Race aired a song celebrating and praising communism. That is offensive to me and it should be offensive to anyone who cares about their fellow man.
glad too see you care about your fellow man
I thought it was curious that the show did not elaborate on the memorial and then featured that really goofy communist song. It seemed that the producers were subtly implying how goofy it was by showing it (it really was educational), and I'm thinking I want to keep American society as far away from becoming that as possible. It reminded me of the attempts at influencing people communists made in decades past – it hasn't changed much. It would still be nice to know about the B-52 memorial.
i think they are fake cuz they know "its" there....think about it....
I watch the Amazing Race, and while watching this episode, I never even noticed the song being sung in the background. As a result, I had absolutely no idea why CBS issued the statements they did before the next episode. Looking back, maybe they could have given more information as far as why/how the B-52 was shot down. It going down is part of our history, and people should be educated about it (when I was in school, we learned about the Revolutionary War more then we did Vietnam). However, the show was being shot in another country, and what that country does the show can't control. If they edited the song out of the background, then they're controlling what people hear, which also isn't right. The show visits many landmarks in the various countries it visits to film the race, just like when they visit WWII concentration camp sites etc. It's painful, but history often is.
Denise, you need to do your homework before you spew off such untrue, ignorant things. People who fall for crap like that without the true facts,then spread it around make me vomit. You are a moron.THAT, ma'm, is a FACT.
its gotta be tapered down.....people are becoming uncomfortable...just sayin...daz all....
An educated and intelligent individual certainly wouldn't mind the exposure to perspectives outside of those that they are inundated with on a daily basis. It has nothing to do with appreciation or lack thereof to allow a story from the opposing angle to be told. To shun the insight is ignorant.
I suppose to John Hamilton, the only perspective that is worth noting on American Television is American. Sounds an awful lot like Iranian and Syrian State television to me.
If anyone was to be justified in the hatred of the US, the Vietnamese would be. But guess what? They don't hate us. They actually like Americans. The people who lost family there come from BOTH countries, and more from Vietnam. Those offended people should look a little deeper and have some understanding for the loss on the other side.
The offense comes at offering as entertainment a political system that denies its citizens of basic human rights, the way the government of View Nam does – the very thing our soldiers were there to fight against.
We lost, get over it. We did not do the US proud there. The Vietnamese people deserve to have their monuments.
Amazing Race had no reason to apologize for that episode in Vietnam. The person who needs to apologize to the vets and the families of the men we lost is Jane Fonda for working with the Vietnamese. She helped with captruing and imprisoning our men. When she was handed a note from a POW for help she gave it to a Vietnamese Officer who later had that man and others that were prisoners killed.
Jane Fonda should have imprisoned for treason. Even going to Vietnam was much too offensive for me.
You dummy, very little of that is true. She was a dumb starlet who went along with her boyfriend. She didn't turn people in or hand over their notes or any of that propaganda stuff. You find people commenting on her instead of Tom Hayden, because Tom Hayden will break you like a stick if you start slamming his name, and Fonda figures she deserves it for being a dupe. Really, if you think she was in any way important to the war, you are a dupe yourself. Snopes is a great resource for guys like you; read first, then comment.
Americans have to get over themselves. Now they're offended when giant weapons systems that killed a million North Vietnamese are shown where they crashed. Yeah, how offensive – oh dear, a few Americans died in that plane after killing thousands of NV, in all likelihood. Maybe American TV should stop showing war movies that treat the North Vietnamese as animals because NV citizens might see those on satellite channels. Jeesh.
My dad is a Vietnam veteran and I just watched this episode last night and found NOTHING offensive about it at all. Yeah, the racers had to listen to a song, but it was only so they could view the phrasing at the end of the song and then search for that exact wording on a poster. Big deal....they didn't even know what the phrasing meant at the time. Actually, The Amazing Race educates about ALL foreign cultures. The road blocks and detours as well as the pit stops all have some significance to the place the racers are at. Those cultures are different from ours and NO ONE is asking that anyone accept the views of those cultures, but ignorance is more dangerous and I for one enjoy learning about some of the less known historical/cultural aspects of the countries that are visited throughout the entire race.
I'm with you. I'm watching the "Amazing Race" because I'm learning about the culture of other societies. Whaever it is, it is educational to me.It is good to know the culture of others whether we like it or not. The most important is to respect them so they will respect us.
More Liberalism that ruins our entire nation's ideals by trying to find something to be offended by. There is a direct correlation between America's tough eras and the increase in Liberal values throughout America's history. Get rid of Liberalism and you get rid of half of our problems. Or should I say 47%?
Folks like you are sick pups. When folks were called to serve their Country, there was no liberal or conservative, they just went. Maybe you should read a book on liberalism, you might actually learn something.
It might help if you actually knew what "liberalism" meant, instead of going by what some tool who hates liberals told you. After all, Rachel Maddow says conservatism means hating your children and your country, right? Should we just write that down and say "ok, thanks," or maybe get a second opinion?
It's unfortunate many hundreds more b-52 were not taking an eternal bath.
I think you're being way too hard on them. Rock Lobster is a great song.
Is is so ludicrous. There were absolutely 0 things that could be deemed offensive in this episode by anyone not searching for a gripe. If anything, the United States owes the people of Vietnam, Lao, and Cambodia a much belated apology for bombing their villages, burning their forests, crops, and ecosystem, and mutating children to this day as a result of pernicious chemical warfare. The war was based on a false flag operation and every death was in vain. The fact that Americans are allowed to set foot on this country today, let alone as tourists, speaks more of the graciousness of Vietnamese people than of the forgetfulness of American couch jockeys.
Micah, I dont know who you are, who you think you are, or where you come from, but remarks such as those causes me to want to invite you to TN so I can personally kick your pathetic ass. My father served his country in Vietnam, he was called to duty and he went. Your words disgrace his service and all those who gave all. Saying its too bad more planes didnt take an eternal bath is saying you wish more Americans DIED while serving their country. You make me physically SICK. Please, allow me the pleasure of kicking your ass. Please
Kid, you obviously weren't born back then. We went into the war as signatories of the SEATO treaty, which obligated us to defend our ally, South Viet Nam, from attacks originating in North Nam and Cambodia. When South Viet Nam had a revolution, we were no longer bound by SEATO, but we stayed anyway, and this is when it got murky. By the end, we were drafting Americans to die for a South Nam that clearly wanted us to go away and let them join up with the north. I know a lot of people who fought and died and suffered, but after a certain point, they were dying for the convenience and protection of politicians on both sides instead of freedom. You can't reduce this to essentials or sound bites or even an epitaph; Viet Nam was hell on earth.
I completely agree this is their culture and their beliefs the Americans invaded them. As much as I respect all men from both sides for their service which was mostly involuntary but what the Americans did to the Vietnamese, Lao and Cambodian people and the land is disgraceful and not forgivable. No American has any right to say what the Vietnamese can and cannot do and they must respect them for the destruction and hardship they caused. The war has nothing to do with the American Vietnam Veterans it was the political party at the time being paranoid about communism but they need to understand American Democracy is not the all great and powerful and they have no right to control other countries. Americans should mind their own business.
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moving on is the best policy for proper ratings ...
It's sad to say we now live in a society of "damned if you do and damned if you don't". With a show such as Amazing Race that is broadcast all over the world you are going to run into situations where you are going to offend somebody, whether it is a small or large segment of the worlds population. CBS apologized and with that being said I think we should just move on and get on with our lives, after all they're more important issues that we can concern ourselves with other then a weekly tv show.
the addiction is there and we will further block it until we locate it and send it too counselling
With love from CBS; the same network that gave us Dan Blatter.........
What do you expect???
The thing is, Amazing Race has a lot of other cultures in it. Communism (that song) IS part of their culture. The war wreckage IS part of their culture. They said nothing disparaging about Americans or the war – they treated it just as any other war artifact in any other country that they have been to. I found nothing offensive about it at all. It is what it is.
Well, there's always going to be something to offend somebody. I would doubt any of the show's crew had any idea about what song was playing in the background. I'd bet most weren't even born during that "incident". I don't think there was any problem showing the B-52. It's not like it was some vital part to the outcome of the game or used in some disrespectful way. It was just a location that has a lot of intense feelings for many people. The show is not about teaching history but since showing something like that is historical, and those unaware may have questions, it may have been better not to have chosen that location. Or is that how we want be? Unwilling to discuss the past? I can understand some being like that.
She flunked and we are going too help her get better grades and be a better person....like it or not. this is love not hate.
What if British tourists heard the star-spangled banner and were offended because a relative died in the war of 1812? The fact is, we had a war there, and it's over. I've traveled in Vietnam, and in spite of everything that happened, very few people there are still fighting that war, figuratively or literally. We should take some of that to heart. I have a lot of respect for Mr. McCain's service to his country, and his brothers in arms. Mr. McCain visited Vietnam himself a few years back, and had many kind things to say to the people there. Why he can't or won't repeat them here is disappointing. America values it's veterans, but that's not a reason to demonize every country we've ever fought in.
"no activity" then no war...until then our goal is too help others with their "issues" and help them not ruin their own reputations ...women especially have a tendency too become addicted more then men do so we need too help those tooled women and stop the war and we will very soon-Mr. Witchcraft.
David if anyone needs an apology from 1812 it would the Americans not the British. By the time the war was over we took your land ( check your maps pre and post war. I know Americans suck at geography but just try and have a look). We also burnt your White house down twice oops! lol
That's the way it goes...
How about you kids get phones like everyone else and text each other? Idiots.
everyone is ticked off
lol I KNEW when I saw that, that there was going to be some ticked off people over it.
get over it. It's been 50 years. Half a century. The propaganda song however was over the top however, they didn't need to translate it.
I have seen several times on TV: the prison camps and human incenerators and dead naked bodies being thrown into mass graves in Germany, southern planations where slaves lived and toiled and suffered, many shows about Pearl Harbor, shows about WWII, many shows about the Civil War, especially Gettysburg, saw the theater where Lincoln was shot, the room and the bed where he died, etc, etc, there is even a network devoted entirely to war. Its all history, and its facts, it does not mean TV producers are being disrespectful if they show a place where history, including events of war, took place. I dont understand why some took offense to the Amazing Race's show in Vietnam. It is no more disrespectful than the showing of any other historic place where people died. It was not their intent to offend. Sometimes I suppose the emotions of people that were involved make them super-sensitive to things that to others seem just matter-of-fact. We all do things all the time that are disrespectful to someone or other, so no sense being a self-righteous hypocrite and acting so appalled.....because we ALL offend whether we mean to or not. Lighten up and give Amazing Race a break.
You say you've seen concentration camps on TV, but were the concentration camps being celebrated and praised? Communism is a violation of human rights and Amazing Race aired a song praising communism. This is not right.
Look who is chiefly in charge of Hollywood and our media, and is there any doubt that they'd never use anything remotely tied to the Holocaust as a "prop" as they did the B-52? Seems the group that is quick to accuse others of insensitivities ended up showing itself to be very insensitive.
CBS committed an outrage using the wreckage of the B-52 as a prop for the show. What a disgrace. Was there not one person at CBS that found this episode offensive?. Who do they have working at CBS, communist sympathizers?
What about the people who watched that show and didn't find it offensive. Such unpatriotic Americans belong on the same anti-aircraft gun along with Jane Fonda. As Lenin said "His followers are useful idiots"
Have you ever actually watched The Amazing Race?? The point is to see historic sites all over the world and experience the other cultures. The war played a huge part in the culture of the Vietnamese and the wreckage is a monument. Get over it.
You really don't see the irony of prattling about Jane For Christ's Sake FONDA while you call someone ELSE a "useful idiot?" Man, I bet your pickup truck is COVERED with bumper stickers that say NOBAMA and DON'T TREAD ON ME.
I would like the Vietnam vets to remember the Korean War vets who had no homecoming parades, were forced to take part in some pretty bad things, and who had just as inept a command structure. Korea saw the same number of casualties in 4 years as Vietnam saw in twice that time.
Sure the Vietnam vets sometimes pay lip service to those who fought a decade earlier. At least with Vietnam there is lots of footage and reports of what went on that have helped their cause over the years. Korea had none of that. These vets came home from an unpopular war and were not only unpopular themselves but have long since been forgotten too.
My Father told me lots of stories about guys who would smoke dope and get F'ed up in Korea. Guess what happens when you drink, get stoned and take other crap in a War zone? Same thing that happens to anyone who takes crap that makes you see things and get paranoid only amplified 1000 times.
I mean no disrespect to those who served in 'Nam and did their job. What those guys faced coming home was a crime in itself. Those who spit on them as they got off of planes should be ashamed and that behavior was as bad as anything the politicians did to muck up the war.
Some of the Vietnam vets remind me of the old saying "I once cried because I had no shoes...".
Why is everyone up in arms all of a sudden about the Amanzing Race showing that photoage and getting all offended. Remember how the American people treated the Virtnam Vets when the returned home, like garbage. That to me is more cold hearted than showing a photoage. I don't even live in you countryand I now that much.
I really don't think this is anything that needs to be apologized for. We went into a country in which we had no business being to fight a McCarthy Era cold-war and an overwhelming number of people lost their lives. There is nothing wrong with showing our country that other countries have other views of us, and really should be encouraged. Americans need to understand history from a non American-based perspective to get the whole story.
Grow up already people.
Meg , Their is not a day goes by that I don't end up fighting that war
Meg, crews died in those B-52s and people died on the ground from them, it was wrong to trivialize those events for a TV show. Do you really believe that because the war was a mistake that the servicemembers who died there should be treated with such disrespect?
I will not be buying products from sponsors of this program anymore.
THAT will teach 'em.
I'll join you.
Come'on people its in poor taste yes but there are way worse things on television. Cant we set some priorities.
is way worse, and far more offensive.
Amazing Race is one of my favorite programs. That said, it makes me sad that our next generation, who likely produced this episode, either are ignorant of our country's history or care so little about the lives lost in Vietnam that they would make the "monument" a destination. If this "monument" is truly the resting place of the bomber, it is also the resting place of its crew members. While Vietnam is now a vacation destination, it is also the land where thousands of our young men selflessly gave their lives. Wake up producers and learn a history lesson.
I quite literally lived next to this monument for more than a year, so let me offer a unique perpective.
First, this is not an entire plane; this is a section of a wing, and a wheel, so there are no servicemen still buried with the plane. With that said, the Vietnamese also did a full excavation of the site in the 70's. Huu Tiep Ho, as its traditionally named is far from a destination, and is apart of everyday life.
If you want to be offended, you should wonder about the govt cutting funding for recovering bodies, rather than something that reminds you of a lost war. Grow up and move on- the rest of the world has.
As far as the "propoganda" song goes, these songs play everyday, and are about how great Vietnam is, but that is far better than watching Fox News all day.
Most Americans can't even speak proper English yet alone Vietnamese to even know it was a communist propaganda song.
They translated the song – that is how we know what it said.
I've watched and enjoyed every episode except this one–the worst by far. I had many high school friends who were killed
or injured in Vietnam. Surely young people now can identify with a war where the justification for the war is questioned as was this one.
To say "get over it" is truly insensitive and cruel to veterans and their families.
Get over it! American atrocities all over the world but those aren't treated as points of how dare anyone visit or show me.
The ones that are saying Get Over With It are the same ones that hate our Military today. It is funny how they are fast to argue with people that have a different opinion of theirs, yet want to force their opinion on you.
Was CBS wrong – yes, but they apologized and it is a done deal. In reality, Viet Nam is a forgotten war, sadly. If you ask any graduating High School student what happened in Viet Nam, the odds are they will have no clue. I took a class back in 1990's at a Community College in which I was the oldest in the class (early 30s) and the rest were late teens early 20s. Ho Chi Min was part of the studies – No one knew who he was, they had no clue who Westmoreland was, and when the Professor and I talked about them – they had NO idea where Viet Nam was and the fact that the USA was involved in a war there.
To those that say USA did not have any right being there – The South Viet Nam Government asked for our help, that is why we were there. So before you say we have no right being someplace, read the real history books before you spew mis-information.
This show is wonderfully educational in a country, ours, that knows almost nothing about the majority of the world. The Amazing Race has been to Vietnam before, and actually stopped where John McCain had been held prisoner. Some contestants really paid tribute at that moment. The song was an inside look at another country's propaganda, and I found it interesting. The downed plane is part of Hanoi's history, and ours, painful as that is.
And everyone is forgetting one of the early seasons of this series. It went through Viet Nam as well. One of the contestants had not been to Viet Nam since serving in the war. We got a chance to see the country and the war through his eyes, and it was moving.
But yes, let's never pay attention when they do something right. Let's only bully and bluster when they do something wrong. That makes perfect sense.
I really did not have an issue with the show – was not overly fond of the translation of the song, but actually watched it twice to catch all of the translation. I do remember seeing the previous time when they were in Viet Nam with the Vet, and it was very touching.
IMHO – They offended some, and those that were offended spoke their mind (which contrary to a lot of people's belief is their Right under the First Amendment), CBS acknowledged it and thought enough about it to issue an apology (which is also their right by the First Amendment).
Really? Someone is always going to be p|ssed-off no matter what you do.
As a Viet Nam vet., I find the airing totally objectionable and a disgrace to all individuals which served in Viet Nam. I now have a second show / individual I will not watch on television.
PS The first one is Jane Fonda.
Yeah, they should've featured those GI's walking around with Vietcong ear necklaces or brought up them shooting down children instead.
Would you have felt better if the contestants were to have passed on the Vietnam Con graves?
Thank you!! I lost family member in Viet Nam, they disgrased what could have been an opportunity to lean. Being station with folks that fought in Viet Nam this is just a slap in the face. How many of these "Innacent" ppl and children killed our guys? MANY.
The ear necklaces are all Hollywood and I'm sure children were killed because the NVC used them as shields and bomb carriers.
Ear neck less a Hollywood stunt !!! in Bear Cat I saw tanks driving around with VC heads on the headlight brackets. The US government sent me over there, but I fought for the guys I was with not the USA. RVN veterans know the good and bad side of WAR.
I watched that episode and it never crossed my mind that it could be offensive. I was interested in the memorial and never even noticed the song. I love the show and I don't think they have anything to apologize for.
I really thought that the segment with the song was inappropriate, and I turned the show off. Very poor taste.
If you find yourself thinking that the U.S. government and media has the responsibility to program Americans with "correct" thoughts, then perhaps democracy is not really the political system for you. The Amazing Race translated the lyrics so we would know what the song was saying. Isn't that enough? Are you not able to form your own opinion about the song? Do you not credit your fellow Americans with enough intelligence to do the same?
Well stated. Thank you.
That was my reaction as well. It gave pause for thought and an opportunity to see another culture's perspective.
No offense taken here, but kudos to CBS for apologizing for the unintentional pain, but not for the content of the program.
This is just annoying.
This show is a great show and in NO WAY tried to trivialize anything!!!!!!
If anything it puts Vietnam BACK in peoples thoughts. The show wasn't disrespectful at all and CBS apologized.
Its accepted-let it goooooooooooooo!
Let us not forget, that the brave men who fought in Vietnam didn't have a choice, they were all but 18-20 years old and fighting a war nobody wanted. My hats are off the these brave Vets!
Amazing Race and CBS have nothing to apologize for a show filmed in a country that we were once at war with. Americans can freely travel to Vietnam and see for themselves the site shown on the show. Nothing trivializing about a show about world travel and world cultures. Any veteran that complains about seeing his shot down plane on a TV show being used as a memorial from the perspective of the human beings that he was trying to kill, maim and defeat is a pathetic human being in the first place and should pipe down.
People just love to be outraged. The song might have been in poor taste a little, but the wreckage? Did they touch it, defile it in some way? No. It was included in footage. Now millions of people know about it who never would have otherwise. Even a survivor of the mission didn't know about this memorial, and now he does. There is plenty to be genuinely outraged about folks.
Have Vietnamese war victims Viet people asked American VETS to apologize?
I like this show. It teaches important cultural lessons and ideas whether we agree with them or not.
Has US apologized Vietnamese the war US created and poured military equipments AO to destroy VN (forget VN Commies). While some vet whining about this matter.
I think it was the song....my dad died due to injuries sustained there, it was just hard to hear. And they sang it over and over again. I hope the Race won't go back there for awhile.
and were going too control IP Addresses–does anyone remember that....
hacking into cars, homes and everything and exposing itself to everyone is poor behavior and will be taken care with love and help
It's humorous how Americans want to have freedom yet they cry and whine and tell other people how they should or shouldn't talk if they hear something they dislike. Americans and their intolerance of disagreement is shameful yet they keep speaking as if they're the best country. Like I said, America is a great country in many ways, but also a shameful country in many ways.
Take this show off the air.. If they can't respect vets from any country... Then boot them off the air.. No matter where they are from, they should be honored and RESPECTED... This show is TRASH!
right where everyone else is.....we will seek help and making the person understand where it was born and how not different it is this is all part of the help....
they are the germs.
It's "to", not "too" moron...
it is an addicted germ but it will go with medication
I wish someone would appologize to me. I have a sinusy headache. I think it's the fault of germs maybe. Germs should say they are sorry.
The Germans invented Germs. They made us have the cold and stuff. I think they should say they are sorry.
Really? People are offended because.. they tried and failed to build an American Empire in Asia? Maybe Amazing Race should stop by Iraq and run some games in the infamous prison, to glorify our Army for invading.. errr.. liberate a country..
Guess what.. The world is not a US Garden. This is part of Vietnam, what they endured. That's what they have and only an Imperialism an uneducated American would spit on other countries cultures.
You could only be offended if you want to live in a bubble. The show was what you would see and hear if you traveled there. Sorry (news flash) other countries do not have to like us. and oh yes we do have a u-boat on display in Chicago. it is beautiful and maybe uncomfortable for other countries
They like me. I'm nice.
Yes let's continue to ignore the other side of a war America had no business getting into.
Yup, the B52 was on a sightseeing tour when it was shot down. Tragic.
I was appalled and offended.
I'm Lionel. Choooooo choooooo.
Being that I'm a train I think I should say CHOOOOO CHOOOOOO. : )
Didn't see anything wrong with it- but could see how some might be offended
As someone who grew up during that time (although too young to serve) I found nothing wrong with this episode. It was much to do about nothing. I knew several people who died in Vietnam. I found it very interesting watching it and seeing some of the way they live and the propaganda the government spews. I spoke to my older brother, who did serve in Vietnam, and he had no problem with it either. I understand some might get upset, but there's much more important things in life to worry about. As John McCain said, case closed
I usually do not watch this show but decided to check it out the night this segment aired. I was appalled and offended by it and will waste no more time watching even though the apology was offered. All of our country has the same history. Many families lost loved ones in that war as mine did. To have the odious song featured with the remains of the crashed plane was beyond belief. I do agree that some people ought to lose their jobs for being so ignorant and insensitive in including those scenes in the show.
Me too. I was appalled and offended too. As an Indian I found it saddening.
Oh get over it. The U.S. government has been far worse to American vets then this show ever will be.
I saw the show. The words to the song simply showed me how great my life truly is compared to those in many other countries. People will find offence where they wish to see it. New Yorkers could be offended if a NYC destination didn't honor the 9-11 victims. Idahoans could claim offence if a potato detour somehow stereotyped Idaho. An so on. Sometimes it is what it is and it just isn't about X, Y, or Z group. Not every entertainment moment needs to educate the masses.
Wars happen people need to get over it. Weirdos.
They should have apologized, it was terrible that they would do that. Extremely shameful. Glad they made the apology
Can you Self-righteous Americans keep that infectious crap on your side of the border? Thanks!
It's funny how the American's who live in this "great" country, the land of the "free" (well, only for some) always seem to forget that our founding fathers stole this land from the American Indians. Those "great" men were murderers, adulterers, rapists, robbers, etc. Is it because it was so long ago that once we forget over time it's not worth recognizing? The Vietnam war was for NO REASON just like the war in Iraq. It's not our job to "rescue" other countries from governments we don't believe in. The vets should all be respected, period! But to silence a t.v. program becasue some vets were offended by a song and a visual of a bombed out aircraft? Pulleezzee.
I'm a Native African American Indian. People shouldn't be taking our land and killing our water buffalo. I am Spotted Turtle. The last of our tribe.
You are an idiot... that is all I can say
Spotted turtle...you are funny good sir
You need to re-learn U.S. history... The Spanish, French, English and Dutch did a four-way on the Native-Americans. Andrew Jackson and thereafter did the rest...
I am so glad that I have a place to voice my anger at the producers etc of this show. I will no longer watch it or purchase products that advertise on it. There was no need to show the scene of the B52 or a song fest of communist people who are forced to live in that country.
The people who thought this was a good use of air time need to move to a socilist country or how about Vietnam/
Me too. I'm never going to watch it again either. I've never seen it before anyhows. It sounds like a poooopy show. Poooooopy.
I am a retired VET, having fought in both Burma and IwoJima. It bothers me when people aren't patriotic. I lost both my shins in IwoJima so I have a hard time walking. We deserve respect for our sacrifices. We served so you can play Nintendo and listen to the WuTang Clan.
Thank you for your service and sacrifice; I too hate when people are disrespectful to you, you deserve much more.
Of course all our veterans deserve respect. The lack of compassion was born of ignorance not malice and I think an apology for the mistake they made was sufficient as long as they do not repeat their transgressions. Here is my problem with this show. It messes up my DVR from recording the Good Wife!!! I am sick and tired of my DVR recording this show instead of one of my favorites. This is a consistent and repeated problem for which they have never apologized and still have not corrected. Please Keep the Amazing Race in its own time slot!!!!!
Wow, I guess I didn't get near as much out of this show as others did! I love this show and it shows how other people in the world live and sometimes even do "service" projects while on the race. This show isn't meant to be a history lesson. I am so tired of always walking on eggshells because I am always afraid I am going to offend someone! It was a short segment on a great show. Get over it people. And, for those people who believe the world Vet refers to Veterinarians need to be given a serious history lesson!! Vet in this subject is a Veteran, a former service member who has earned our respect!
Yontema: The Amazing Race has nothing to do with your DVR! Get some brains. They are on later because of sports or something else running longer. It has nothing to do with the show. Just set your DVR to tape from 9-11. Seriously?! Are you that inept?!
How fraking stupid can you be to think that the show has anything to do with your DVR. I'm amazed you were able to spell DVR correctly.
The war ended decades ago. Please move on. Nothing to see here.
Shut up you 12 yr old disrespectful, rude, little punk! Learn history and learn some respect
Deb sounds angwy. It's ok. It'll be better. Things are ok.
When I watched the part about the Socialism song I kind of laughed to myself. "Really, I thought?" Socialism? Good? I felt sorry for the people of Vietnam. Any Socialistic country needs our empathy. I guess I don't know anyone who vacations there. Anyone? Do you desire to vacation there, much less, live there? Why is that?
The people I know who travel to Vietnam are the Vietnamese who give me pedicures. They moved here for the freedom the US offers. When discussing with them about their native country, they say they come to the US, save their money and bring their family members over to the US to live with them. They want to become US citizens.
Am I upset that the song was shown on the Amazing Race? And that the US plane remains were shown? Let me just say I am not surprised, given who produces the show. I do think, though, that some uninformed US citizens might look at it and think the people of Vietnam are happy with socialism. The Vietnamese I know are not happy with it.
Brainwashing is a bad thing. My opinion is that this segment of the Amazing Race was a form of brainwashing; simply because it was one-sided.
For those of you who thought we were on the wrong side in the Vietnam war, go back and read what happened once we pulled out. Millions were slaughtered by the Communists (now Socialists).
Way to go Amazing Race – show a one-sided belief system.
I think BrainWashing is agood thing. It's very important to have clean brains. I usually spray mine off with the water hose every few days. They are sparkly clean.
So do you feel sorry for the people of the United States living under a Socialist president? Or are you one of those Demo-rats who voted for him again?
OMG, another self-absorbed, 'the USA is the center-of-the-universe' idiot. South Viet Nam then was a fascist, right-wing military dictatorship (rich and the military controlled the country). The US, per usual, jumped in on the wrong side (oh, what a surprise there...). We invaded THEIR country.
They can tell their story any way they want to. Just as we do. It was no disrespect of our military's valor, and none intended.
I am a retired member of our armed forces and a Gulf War vet. I am also an avid fan of the show, who's hoping one day to be contestant with one wife or one of my daughters. The Amazing Race is one of the most educational and inspiring shows on TV, as it has since it started. I was not offended by the Vietnam show scenes, but appreciate the gesture of the apology that they posted. Most of all, I am extremely grateful to all Vietnam vets for their sacrifice, and fully understand how these scenes could be construed and taken in bad taste.
Thank you RicM - your comment is very likely the most sensible and reasonable on this board. "Race" is a very classy and educational show that has presented episodes from many dozens of countries by now, and although it was out of bounds with this episode, it still showed what life is like in another nation. The apology was accepted, so let's move on and enjoy the show, but still keep in mind the efforts and sacrifices of our vets (including you, RicM - thanks).
remember its all about love -
CBS is one of Americas greedy corporations that is willing to tell whatever tale it believes will capture an audience and therefore make it the most money, even if the idea it is selling is socialism or communism.
Nobody believes that every aspect of this show was not carefully scrutinized and run through a think tank.
An apology is not enough. Heads need to roll. (Somebody needs to loose their job.)
NEVER FORGET: The democrats under John F. Kennedy got us into Vietnam to protect the French Colonial interests in Vietnam. It was a Republican in the end that got us out of Vietnam. Our children deserve to be taught the truth.
The presidential tapes (recently unclassified) from the time when Johnson was President revealed that he had all but come to an agreement to end the war. He had actually announced it, then it did not happen. They came to find out Nixon intervened in order to win the election. Nixon undermined the whole deal and extended the war just to win the election. Johnson did not let this information out because it would so damage the faith and patriotism of the American people.
One wonders why when mentioning stats that could have been mentioned they failed to put in the 200 to 500 thousand Vietnamese civilians who died as a result of the United States sticking it's nose into the politcs of another country? And by nose I mean agent orange and machine guns. Or how many of those vets were drafted to serve for a cause they didn't support who were themselves from poor families and sent over half way around the world to kill other poor people. I can see the wreckage of the bomber as insensitive. Service men may have died in that plane. They shouldn't have done that. You can't whine about the Vietnamese singing nationlist songs. They're proud of their country, deal with it.
How do you know they're proud of their country? It's a communist country. They have to sing that song whether they like it or not. We in America are so lucky to have so many rights and freedoms that we take it for granted. In a communist country, you are not allowed to voice your opinion. If the government tells you to dance, you dance. If they tell you to si g, you better sing.
Take the damm show off the air
Grow up. By the way, pop the bubble you are living in.
Wow, some of the comments let you see why the producers thought it would be ok. There is a small population of people who think it is ok to offend veterans, conservatives, tea party members, republican women who run for public office, christians, republicans, people who believe in the 2nd amendment. They can make offensive deceptive statements about these groups and give the impression that they are justified in their comments. Respond with the truth or a different belief and you become satan/bigot/racist. CBS should have apologized but then again they should have NEVER had this in the schedule. I guess we have John Kerry to thank for this episode. LOL!
" They can make offensive deceptive statements about these groups and give the impression that they are justified in their comments"
You forgot to mention gay people, muslims, the latino community, the african american community, the asian community, Mormons, Hindu's, Islam, etc. These groups are offended by offensive deceptive statements as well.
Ah, my girl friend watches this stupid show. One of the few things about her I can't understand.
Vets charge too much. $250 to neuter a cat is rediculous.
Just do it yourself then. Google for instructions.
The saddest thing is the people that don't care. You never lived under a communist regime, have you? Glorifying communism is as bad or worse as glorifying Nazism (only in that communist regimes have killed about 20x more people in the past century). You people are ignorant as can be. Keep glorifying communism, maybe you'll be lucky enough to live under it one day soon. Idiots.
Please, tell us exactly how hard it's been for you living under a communist regime?
We should always remember the past and pay tribute to our solidiers who have sacrificed for our country. We seldom see great things come out of shows that showcase Vietnam, it would have been good to acknowledge a painful history we share with an educational and exciting opportunity the Amazing race was given. Apologies or not, recognition with purpose and fun and education with purpose should have been both achieved by the producers. The Amazing Race is a great show, the Vietnam War and its history and impact should never be forgotten. We must always remember the past or as they say " it will be repeated".
No real apology. Les Moonves is a world class heartless person.. After the way he treats his people I am surprised he has any left. I am a Vietnam Vet and what he did does not surprise me a bit. I have seen him ruin many a good show and hurt some people in the process. I don' t much agree with Bob Beckel and his politics, but my thanks to him for his efforts on our behalf.. And thanks to all my Vietnam brothers for hanging in there all these years.
I'm a Volunteer Vet,but didn't serve in Vietnam. I have watched the amazing race from it's first show. I was disgusted by the B-29 , being used in the program. I'm hoping those aviator remains were brought home an received a military burial. What is wrong with the producer? The song should have been muted out of the program ,an explained for it mutting, by the producer.
As a vet, do you doctor on both dogs and cats?
Pretz: B-29's haven't flown since WW II.
mute the song?
sounds more like something a repressive socialist regime would do, not an American TV show.
We should remember that our leaders decided to send troops to Vietnam. The French colony was falling apart and the battle for control of the country after they left was up for grabs. The side we picked was flawed and in the end they and we failed to win control. After we pulled out, the promised domino effect, with the communists taking over the world didn't happen. Maybe we should move on, make nice with the Vietnamese people and stay out of future overseas civil wars. Unfortunately many people still think if we only stayed longer and killed some more human beings, we could have "won". I wish the media would stop indulging those who can't or won't let go of that nasty war.
Anyone dumb enough to watch this show deserves what they get.
I think all the hippies need to just get over it. The 1960's were a long time ago. Nobody cares what happened way back then. It was almost half a century ago. Those oldsters need to get over themselves and worry about if they are going to win at bingo tonight or whether their depends adult diapers are leaking. Poor old hippies.
My grandparents were hippies back then. We got em in a nursing home now, where old people belong. They wear bibs to keep the drool off their shirts. Drool.
I agree. Old people and hippies are lame. They walk too slow.
You and your sidekicks are too wet behind the years to remember yesterday. What a bunch of wusses and punks! I'll bet you have grandparents who are real proud of you. Seems to me like a Revolutionary War, Civil War, WWI&II were also fought way back. And you would not know a real Hippie if you saw one like Bill Gates and Steve Jobs, The Old Hippie is why you can send a stupid message like yours, A real Podunk Univ grad1
Jim , don't worry about us OLD people. Most of us made it on our own an brought children like you into this world. You will NEVER own up to our generation. You are weak , non patriotic citizens and most of all ,dependent on your mommies. Drugs & alcohol is your demeanor . I and millions in that generation thought the lowest of druggies ,an never even thought of using it. I'm 73 playing golf 2 times a week,mainly because I haven't had a mortgage for the last 20 yrs. Old age is just around the corner sonny boy. You may never retire ,but you will not recognize that fella in the mirror soon....lol..lol
I don't have wet ears. I dried em off good this morning. Yeah.
I was suprised and a little uncomfortable to see the words to the song the young people sang and I wondered if there would be adverse reactions to that part of the show. I understand that this reality show goes all over the world and seeing the different cultures is very interesting, and to share how they live is good for me to see. It is humbling to see that not everyone puts the US on a pedestal. In past seasons, I have seen the racers be very rude to the people in the countries they are visiting, and that is where I think the apology should be given.
What a shockingly sensible comment. That's a great point-of-view to have, and especially nice to see amongst the various flame wars going on here and elsewhere.
You would think anyone who served in Nam would have a backbone by now.I know Republicans don't.
I appreciate the apology, but it really gives insight to the way the producers of this show feel. The fact that they would have even filmed it, then proceeded to air it, shows their lack of respect for our military. I will go back to freedom of speech which is a great thing in this country. To the producers of Amazing Race, it was your right to film and air yoru opinions. Now it is my right to no longer watch. I chose to support the men and women who fight for my freedom of speech in addition to the many frredoms I am provided because they are willing to die so I may continue to have them.
You must have a very narrow view of the world, and I doubt the producers will lose much sleep over the loss of you.
As a vet, I can understand the anger. On the other hand we slaughtered over a million Vietnamese in a war that we started. I wonder how we would react to a country that invaded us and killed lots of innocent people. Our service men and womed did their job and we should respect them for that. But our government screwed us and the Vietnamese. Put on their shoes for a minute.
Darren you left one very important detail out, what about the thousands of people that were being slaughter in South Viet Nam. War is War by the way when you were in did you have to slaughter anybody, or did you excuse them from life before they killed one of your buddies. I have never heard a VET refer to us as slaughter them. I do wonder if you are a real VET.
I was amazed that the producers didn't seem to realize how offensive most Americans, not just Vietnam veterans, would be offended by the words of the song (which they featured in captioning the segment).
If you're offended by the words to a song that you'll never hear again, you must lead a very sad life.
Bill, You hit the nail directly on the head. Instead of just playing the song, why did CBS translate the song and force feed the captioning on us. This was the issue I had with it, my kids were watching this.
While what the Amazing Race showed was not ideal, one of the things about the program is how it shows other cultures and how they live. People truly concerned about how the show may impact their children should use it is a learning tool. Take the chance to explain to your kids that people all over the world have different beliefs and live different ways of life. Explain to your kids what Socialism is, and why you do not like it. Explain to your kids why there is a memorial to a B-52 in Hanoi. Everyone is so quick to complain, but no one is making an effort to teach the children viewers WHY it was inappropriate and offensive for a large number of viewers. People get offended by this, yet they do not get offended when Nicki Minaj has to be censored on a live broadcast of American Idol for using expletives in front of teenage contestants. Way more kids watch American Idol than The Amazing Race.
Turned all my kids communist. Now what do I do?
I thought the show was clearly mocking the propaganda song when they played it at the end of the show. The lyrics were so completely insipid it was laughable! I mean, c'mon, what was this, "It's a Red World After All?"
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