If all publicity is good publicity, Ryan Murphy's new NBC series, "The New Normal," is basking in it.
Earlier this summer, the organization One Million Moms launched a boycott against the sitcom, about two partners hoping to have a baby, because the org found it "harmful to our society."
But members of the group who are based near Utah station KSL won't have to work hard to avoid "The New Normal," since the station has decided not to air the new fall show.
"From time to time we may struggle with content that crosses the line in one area or another. The dialogue might be excessively rude and crude. The scenes may be too explicit or the characterizations might seem offensive," Jeff Simpson, the CEO of KSL's parent company, Bonneville International, told The Salt Lake Tribune.
"For our brand," Simpson said, "this program feels inappropriate on several dimensions, especially during family viewing time."
"New Normal" star Ellen Barkin has criticized KSL"s explanation of its programming decisions, tweeting over the weekend, "Shame on u @kslcom not airing @NBCTheNewNormal So L&O SVU (rape & child murder) is ok? But loving gay couple having a baby is inappropriate?"
She then expressed her gratitude for the show, adding, a "Thank you to @NBCTheNewNormal @MrRPMurphy @AliAdler &all our brilliant writers.Thank you for giving me something so important to work for."
"The New Normal" is scheduled to premiere on NBC at 9:30 p.m. ET/8:30 CT on September 11, and the network said in a statement to Entertainment Weekly that it's "confident that the show will find another home in the Salt Lake City market."
It sounds like that may have already happened, as the general manager of KUCW and KTVX, Matt Jacquint, told The Salt Lake Tribune that they're currently looking for a time slot to broadcast the show on the weekends.
This isn't the first time KSL has decided not to air one of NBC's new shows. Last year, it was the new fall program "The Playboy Club" that was pulled from KSL's airwaves.
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The station has a right to carry whatever content it wishes. When i was in school, I remember there was a Utah station that wouldn't play George Michael because of the explicit and suggestive lyrics.
If this was a christian (pat robertson) channel, would you expect them to air it? Business can do what they please. They rely on sponsors and sponsors speak with their money. If this works for them, it is not for public opinion to decide.
Here's an idea Utah, the tv remote has a channel up and down button. If you don't like what you see on tv and have at least 1 hand, turn the channel! thanks
It's interesting to see all these people bashing morals and virtue. I guess people doing whatever the hell they want is perfectly fine, as opposed to being a good person.
I love how people are so dense that they have to try and fight it. Honestly. If you don't accept gays, fine. To act immature and not allow a SHOW to air? Really? Stop trying to hide the fact that there are gay people out there. They're all over the place. I know some people saying that this show is "forcing gays down our throats and forcing us to accept it." Has to be the dumbest thing I've ever read. It's a show! You don't HAVE to watch it! There's thousands of other channels out there! or better yet, TURN IT OFF.
It just irritates me how small minded some people are when it comes to this topic. Seriously.
Even though I don't morally agree with the show is just stupid. The acting is horrible. Not a good influence for kids in terms of being teaching them to make good decisions. TV has definately been dummed down and has little value anymore other than for some cheap laughs and stupid banter.
Caught a few minutes of it and it should be called "The New Stupid". It is basically unwatchable.
The current prominent portrayal of groups that are only a tiny fraction of actual society shows that the struggle they have to be accepted, or even recognized, is clearly being won. I applaud the recognition that people of all varieties have similar peaceful and loving desires for their lives and the right to live them, but having them thrown in my face at every turn is not appropriate! As with the incorporation of various ethnic groups in decades past, the incorporation of diverse lifestyles, genetic anomalies and disabilities is important – but overkill is not. I won't be watching more than a couple episodes of this series, putting into perspective the number of folks I know as friends and meet casually who are represented here.
i was born and raised in utah, but i have also lived in CA and NV. I watched a couple episodes of the New Normal on Hulu, and I have to say this group is completely wrong. I can't say it is my new favorite show or anything, but the message that "family is family and love is love" is NOT harmful to society. Encouraging a little girl to be herself? No, I don't consider that harmful either. I think the harmful thing is thinking in this day and age that you have a right to tell someone what they should do or whom they should love.
Religion or no religion, I would never watch I believe this is the kind of stuff that degrades society! It is rubbish. Watch something that you can actually learn something from. Otherwise you are wasting your time!!!
Have you ever considered that maybe you just have a learning disability? Not all knowledge is about reading, writing, and arithmetic. Perhaps the greatest lesson this planet needs to learn is about each other. Maybe you just learn to understand someone else's point of view. You don't have to agree with it, but until you learn to understand it, you're part of the problem, not the solution.
elementgirl – The kinds of things that DEGRADE SOCIETY is bigotry, self-righteousness and stereotyping people who are "different" than YOU! Congratulations! YOU are one of the things that DEGRADE SOCIETY!
Umm... I think elementgirl was just saying that it's just a stupid sitcom. I'm inclined to agree; most of the time sitcoms have very little to offer to society as a whole, and tend to be lowest common denominator humor, regardless of subject matter.
Methinks you should lay off the coffee, milady. You lost your composure and threw wild accusations rather rapidly. Perhaps a nice chamomile to calm your nerves?
I can understand element not liking it, fine. Not everyone is going to. Whatever.
The thing I don't understand is how people can let Jersey Shore, Keeping up with the Kardashians, and all those stupid shows that have NO point whatsoever air. Getting thousands to millions of dollars for no reason. Yet, this show, teaching people of love and family, and other things, cannot air. Getting many hate comments because there happens to be a gay couple in it.
THAT is what bewilders me.
That KSL won't air this series is no surprise.KSl is the media puppet for the LDS church. The station is located right across th estreet from the LDS headquarters. I lived in UT. (Salt Lake county) for ~3yrs. I found it to be a hate filled and exclusionary place. The people there are glassy eyed at the prospect that one of their own LDS is running for POTUS. These people are scary and un-american to say the least.
That's funny, because my in-laws are all Mormon and I find them to be the nicest people I know. As for this show, I kind of agree with R Burns above. I'm fine with the premise of this show, it's the execution I don't care for. I got really burned out on Ryan Murphy's show Glee during season 2. It just seemed that he was trying waaaay too hard to promote a pro-gay agenda. Based on what I've seen of his Nip and Tuck, Glee, and his American Horror Story it appears to me that subtlety and discretion are definitely not in Murphy's wheelhouse. I found American Horror Story and Nip and Tuck in particular to be very unsettling and creepy (which, I guess was the point of "Horror Story"). I love hard-edged dramas, but I didn't care for either of those shows. But obviously others do, and that's great for them. As far as gay portrayals, though, I'll take Modern Family's gay couple over Ryan Murphy's, or The Office's Oscar, etc. I just don't like the Murphy's shows.
As for this station refusing to air this show, that's their choice. They obviously know their market, or are Mormons themselves, so considering the subject matter, this isn't surprising at all (I actually wonder whether they do show Law and Order SVU too, anyone know?). I don't have a problem with it. After seeing those three Murphy shows, I get why they don't think this show works for their market. They've probably concluded based on their analysis that they'd get lousy demographics. I wonder though, if they show Modern Family (the Romneys apparently love that show too). There's two sides to this, after all. Religious bigotry is wrong too.
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WOW!! you Americans with your stûpid fairy tales! When I read your hôgwash on religious morality, it makes me think that you are about as îdiotic as the taliban... close minded and archaic... I am so glad I dont live in your backwards country!
Ya. We're glad you don't live here too!
We are too.
Has it been your experience that calling people names and insulting them is an effective form of changing their opinions?
I tried logic....you don't respond well to that...
If you knew the first thing about the US, you would know that Utah doesn't represent the entire country. At all.
Please do not judge an entire country based on the actions of a few loons. Most of us are not like that.
Agree with the others, we are happy you don't live here.
Pssst... Hey Nickyboy.... You're welcome for the programming, development, and infrastructure that you used to read about this story, and leave a comment through.
Backwards, archaic country.
The show's gonna fail anyway.
concept will not work
"Its disgusting and completely natural..." Your Freudian typo is showing.
"OBVIOUSLY women are SUPPOSED to procreate as that is how their bodies work so if a woman cannot, something is obviously WRONG with her body." You forgot that part where maybe her husband is sterile, so there's something obviously WRONG with his body. In that case, she can be artificially inseminated and still conceive and give birth. So... you'd be fine with that, right?
You're right, there are many shows that need to go. Let's start with The 700 Club, and then follow it with every televangelist out there. And Veggie Tales, too - we don't need our kids watching that crap. Any other offensive religious shows I've missed?
CSPAN and CSPAN 2
not a good start for the season
bad move..of the producers part.
This has nothing to do with morality or the viewers in Utah – at least not directly. This has everything to do with being unable to find local sponsors for the show. Sure, there are national sponsors, but local stations are expected to sell advertising, too, and without them, there's no show.
Well said. Let the market decide what tv shows will be shown. If the show goes against the grain of the community, let the community decide and if KSL can't get sponsors, then the community has decided.
Aren't the advertisers Utah citizens too? backwards advertisers for backwards citizens!
I live in Utah and have absolutely no interest in watching a show that would have offended my parents, my grandparents, and their grandparents, and their grandparents before them going back a thousand generations. I choose to be true to my ancestry and the legacy they left me. Why would we want to disappoint our Heavenly Father and all he has done for us?
That's interesting, because I'm pretty sure 99 out of 100 tv shows currently on air would have offended your great grandparents.
You sir are a tool!
A thousand generations ago your ancestors were living in caves and dragging their knuckles on the ground in search of food.....are you saying your family hasn't evolved since then? oy....
get a life, thats why you live in utah (no diversity whatsoever
Your Heavenly Father has no interest in what you are watching on TV. He is NOT A PERSON or even a "he" for that matter. I know that's what you believe, but please leave some room for those who are not inclined to believe that God is a person paying attention to TV programs. It's great that you don't want to watch it - that's what freedom means. Free will, that's something else, that appears to be "God given" too. Let's all be allowed to exercise it. Don't watch what you offends you. I don't, but I also don't expect others to do as I do. How righteous!!!
So - you've managed to watch all the episodes, or even one episode, before the series even airs so you can state your opinion of it so definitely? Who's your connection in Hollywood? I'd like an advance peek so I can decide whether I like the show or not. 'Cause otherwise I'd just be an idiot casting judgment on things I knew nothing about.
This is how tv (and radio) work: a show is aired. People either watch or don't watch. If people watch, the show stays. If people don't watch, the show goes.
There's really no need to "ban" a show simply because YOU don't want to see it. If enough people are like you the show won't be around very long at all.
You did note that button on your remote that says CHANNEL , didn't you? It means you have the control over what is 'aired' in your household.
Use it. And let others decide what they 'air' in their house.
My ancestral grandmother joined the Mormon church, emigrated from Sweden, and pulled a handcart across the Great Plains.She didn't like SLC much, so she went to Goshen, UT, and opened a distillery and brothel for the miners that came through the town looking for a good time and made a fortune. I want to be true to my heritage, my ancestors, my family's historical lifestyle. Could we please have a live split-screen feed from the Mustang Ranch and the Jack Daniels distillery during "The New Normal's" time slot?
i am with jimtom, then you can't watch or ready anything but the Book of Mormon. Chances are that might offend at least some of your ancestors going back 1000 years, so maybe you should stop reading that. Stop reading the Bible since some may be Jewish. Stop reading any books on science. Stop doing anything. Live in a hole and that way you won't offend anyone (and I won't have to be your neighbor).
I watched episode of "The Walking Dead" in which the zombies that one man were trying to save in hopes there would be a cure were gunned down in a hail of bullets. Now, I'm no theologian, but I do know that God said in the Ten Commandments, "Thou shall not kill." But violence and murder pass for entertainment in our society, yet nudity and two guys having a kid is immoral? I can't even use the Bible to rationalize this thinking. The majority of stores are open on the Sabbath in Utah, People are still allowed to get divorced in Utah. I assume there is no morality police hauling people who take the Lord's name in vain off to prison. So why the focus in this TV show?
as long as they are happy.
I couldn't care less about whether this show is being broadcast in Utah. But it is nice to know that everyone opposing gay marriage is going to lose. Anyone with a brain can see that gay marriage is eventually going to be legal across the US. It's just a matter of time. Go ahead, and try to argue with that. We all know it's going to happen. Look at the numbers. Look at the increase in support that's been happening steadily for the past 15 years, and is getting near the tipping point. So start getting used to the idea.
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LOLOL! You honestly think the fact that a bunch of people ate fried chicken means that gay marriage isn't going to be legal in the entire US one day? Keep dreaming buddy. I'm just looking out for people like you. It's obviously going to happen at some point. I just don't want you to have a heart attack or be consumed by an uncontrollable rage when it does. Start getting used to the idea.
If they had said there was no demand for this show, no one would care. Trying to pass down a moral judgment is not the job of a tv station or a fast food joint. I wish people would stop being so full of themselves.
Why is it so wrong when a Christian stands up for their beliefs? You stand up for yours. People arent allowed to smoke because you don't like it, people can't even have a bbq anymore because you don't like it, and because some folks don't like meat, they are trying to outlaw it? Get a grip. A belief is a belief. That is what makes the world go around.
Reason number 100,563,824 i won't go either
not sure if show will make it
Reason number 88,563,824 I will never visit Utah. What a backwater.
I actually live in this market. The local NBC affiliate doesn't play Saturday Night Live either. As much as everyone want to make this about politics, it is much easier for me to believe that this came down to revenue for the station. Law & Order handles scary and uncomfortable subjects. Will & Grace waved a big gay flag every episode. KSL ran both of those because they sold lots of ads. There may be some pressure they're feeling from groups like OMM but ultimately their the moral decision will be trumped by the financial one. My guess is they watched some of the previews, deemed that the show just doesn't match the audience that lives here and doesn't have the artistic quality to build the audience in time to survive. Arrested Development was brilliant but couldn't bring in ad sales. Cancelled. Two and a Half Men is rude, very crude, and not very funny but it has a huge audience share (presumably by aiming at the lowest common denominator.) It's in syndication and will likely run for another 10 season.
For the record, I am an Atheist, Liberal (for Utah,) Democrat who regularly donates to the help the gay teen homeless problem in SLC. For those who don't know SLC has a teen homeless rate higher than many major cities because a lot of gay teens get kicked out of their house and have nowhere to go if they come out to their parents. Utah has a problem with gays but, it's not because Ellen Barkin is channeling Archie Bunker in what looks to be a mediocre TV show.
KSL knows their viewers and made a conscious financial decision.
We do not need tough guys bullying people on this site.
We know Christianity is the Focus of Good in our world.
the garbage tv will be removed..as God is my witness the garbage is going.
So... your TV doesn't have a channel selector or an off switch? Have you tried unplugging it? Selling it? Or is someone forcing you to watch all that "garbage" against your will? Hint: If you don't like, you don't have to watch it.
Any garbage that can be removed from airwaves is for the better! Congratulations KSL! There are other shows that need to go as well, but one at a time is better than nothing at all.
It's not Normal and it will never be. How can anyone work so hard for something that they can't have? 2 men will never be able to have a baby; It's sad that we live in a society that promotes the exploitation of unborn children into a world that is filtered through lies. 2 men can't have a baby, but they both wanna be mommies and daddies....What a joke. And two see two men with baby bumps to suggest...Oh well, I want what I want. Maybe I could transform into have human and beast to showcase my beastliness.
you would deny a child a life with a loving family, even though they are g ay? Would it be better that they grow up in an orphanage? Studies have shown that g ay parents raise perfectly normal children. Actually, they are probably more adjusted than most kids. You do realize that most kids don't care about folks being g ay. It's their parents that pass on that ugliness to their children.
Twisted and unnatural. Do not be fooled folks. Only the MEDIA and HOLLYWOOD make it seem like the entire world accepts gays and their unnatural lifestyle. It will NEVER be accepted. Its disgusting and completely natural. Mankind's internal struggle is for survival. EVERYTHING is about survival. Two guys banging each other does not keep our species going. Oh, and don't give me the bs that 'what about a couple that CAN'T have kids?' OBVIOUSLY women are SUPPOSED to procreate as that is how their bodies work so if a woman cannot, something is obviously WRONG with her body. It does not mean that is natural either. GET A CLUE!
You call yourself "pretty", but your ignorance and bigotry is very ugly indeed.
I have run these posts through google translator 4 times and i have come to the conclusion that you people are just to retarded to even type a coherent sentence without using the number 2 (instead of two or too or to).... fail, go back to school THEN worry about morality. ( i hope no one is ignorant enough to think i actually ran it through a translator /sigh)
Maybe if I'm lucky, my local NBC affiliate will refuse to air it as well ... I'm gay (and an Atheist), but I still wouldn't watch this garbage. Seems like a waste of airtime.
If you're lucky you'll figure out how to use the tv's remote in time and just not watch it.
But I guess it's more fun to impress your will upon others, right?
I applaud KSL TV. They have to a right to decide what programming they want to air. I am grateful that they are willing to take a stand. I don't know where some of you get your information, though.
@well: Just so you know, the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormons, as some would like to call us) has a large facility dedicated to providing relief to the poor, the naked and others suffering from disasters. Members of the church worldwide provide a lot of funds in humanitarian relief to the Red Cross and have people trained to man disaster relief shelters. We work with people to help them to improve their employment, find employment, and become self-sufficient so they aren't relying upon government hand-outs. In becoming self-reliant people gain back their dignity and self respect. I find it very disappointing to see liberals constantly trying to persecute my religious beliefs when you take no time to find out for yourself.
Just like you say the liberals are trying to persecute you for your religious beliefs...... well, stop persecuting others for is a civil right. Stop ramming your beliefs down our throats. It grows ever so tiresome.
Its nice that your church believes in working together to better the lives of the unfortunate. But I am confused. How could such a church breed the Vulture Capitalist Mitt Romney? His destruction of the lives of the workers simply to enrich himself seems quite at odds with the values you offer. Yet he was a Bishop in your church. Can you explain that?
Are there a lot of naked people that need help where you are?
I'm actually really glad the Democrats are making gay marriage a big issue this election. I really hope Obama focuses heavily on it if he gets re-elected. Every minute the liberals spend fighting for something that doesn't effect me *at all* the less time and political capital they can spend ruining the healthcare system or pushing for higher taxes or otherwise trying to micromanage our lives.
What "healthcare system"? The one run by insurance companies? There seems to be no system involved, other than denying treatment and profiting enormously off of peoples' misfortune.
And one other question? Did KSL stop broadcasting Seinfeld after the "contest" episode? Masturbation is a real bad sin in the church? Just wondering? Or was that ok? Hmmm. Wonder how many other "sinful" series KSL has broadcast?
I remember when Picket Fences was on KSL and they moved it to late Saturday's because they made a comment about mormon's that to me didn't seem offensive, but what do I know. I don't know, but I think Mr. Murphy is sitting back smiling and pretty excited that his new show will probably hit ratings high for a pilot because of all the publicity it is receiving. Whether it becomes a success afterward or not, at least now KSL has given it a big chance of success. Thanks KSL for your help in this matter.
Notice how liberals are taking every excuse possible these days to bash mormonism as a religion? Whenever there's something even tangentially related to the mormon church or someone who might be a mormon all you hear is how bad their faith supposedly is. Could it have something to do with the fact that the person running against their liberal messiah is a mormon? When Obama's pastor for 20 years says 9/11 was "chickens coming home to roost" and all sorts of racist bigoted tripe we're supposed to "love and tolerate" his religion, but when Romney is a mormon it's nothing but stir up hatred and fear of all mormons anywhere whenever possible. Hypocrites much?
Look at the comments down below to see what I mean
I'm a liberal. I do not hate anybody who is a Mormon. I don't dislike anybody, except morons. Do you not associate a lot of hate due to a person's religious beliefs? How many wars have been started due to religion? Maybe somebody should point a finger at religion in general. Where do you get your anti g ay opinions from, your pastor? You just go ahead & hate anything that is different from your beliefs. I choose to love all people for who they are.
Well actually they probably heard all the nasty remarks when all the republican candidates were running for top spot. This is a democracy, and everyone has a right to their opinion, whether you agree or not. I think what's more disturbing is all the name-calling from both sides.
I'm actually an atheist, I dislike religion in general, but I find it amusing how many liberals will go to defend certain religions (e.g. Islam or Obama's pastor) and viciously attack anybody who says something mean about them while ignoring those religion's bigoted beliefs. Then when the Republican nominee happens to be from some relatively minor christian sect they pull out all the stops to attack it at any chance. Have you not noticed an increase in public attacks on Mormonism as the election seasons gotten underway? I sure have.
Hey, liberals are the most tolerant people I know....AS LONG AS YOU AGREE WITH THEIR POINT OF VIEW!!!! They are "the ones" who continue to perpetuate the notion of racism in America.
@TM, you are right. I did see a lot about Romney being a Mormon on the media. It was during when all the Republicans were running to get to be the nominee. Let's see, Santorium, Newt. They all brought it up. After that, I haven't really heard much about it. Guess the christian right has a problem with the LDS church. Didn't they call them a cult? That's republican, & not a liberal thing.
The show probably sucks anyways.
Agreed. But at least 95% of shows currently on tv suck. And that's a low estimate.
"Pliny is a lesbean" Oh look, Timmy is back and his mom let him near the computer.
Contrary to what hollywood would have us believe, gay is not "normal". Go ahead and do your gay thing. You seem to feel that you have the right. OK, fine. But don't call yourselves "normal". You're not.
Rofl. How does it feel to know that there is a 100% chance that gay marriage will be legal across the US in 20 years? Will it be normal then? Please explain to me how it isn't going to happen. Look at the numbers. Support has been increasing dramatically for the past 15 years. Do you really think it's about to stop? Face it: old people tend to think being gay is wrong. Young people tend to have no problem with it. One of those groups is dying off. Seriously, just think about it from a logical perspective. Regardless of what you or I may think about it: It. Is. Going. To. Happen.
I totally agree with you. Why does the LDS religion have a thing against g ay marriage anyway. Isn't this the religion that allows multiple wives. Well, personally, I find that disgusting. There will be g ay marriage someday. The polls show that already. The American mind is changing on this subject. For you haters, better get used to the idea. It will happen someday.
No, Idiot...we are not your normal. Thank GOD!!
Being gay is perfectly normal for people who are born gay - and there is plenty of proof to indicate that people are indeed born gay. On the other hand, there isn't a shred of evidence to support the existence of any god. In that light, religion certainly seems the abnormality.
KSL, thank you for keeping that crap off the air. I am not religious or even confident of the bible. From a common sense and basic laws of nature perspective, there is nothing normal about the "New Normal". Just the odd out group trying to shove their agenda down our throats.
Well put...just the fact that they named this trash "The New Normal" is beyond disgusting.
After all, this is America. Our motto is, "If you're not the majority, you have no rights." Followed closely by our second motto, "If you're different than me, I don't like you."
A privately owned station deciding what fits their lineup is not censorship. Nice try though.
More like "Nobody can ever do anything for any reason because there is a possibility somebody's feelings might get hurt. Boo hoo hoo." followed closely by "I am crying you a river as we speak. Boo hoo hoo."
if this show was about a man with multiple wives they would air it.
Multiple wives is the Old Normal.
And here I had thought censorship had died decades back...way to go, Christian Reich!
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Just another group of christian conservatives trying to exercise their control over their neighbors in the name of what they consider to be right. Nothing new about this. That's what the moral majority does best. They try to force others to think their way even if it means ignoring the fact that the world is changing around them. They don't believe in gay rights so that must mean that there are no gays. If there are no gays then that must mean that a TV program about gays is unjust and immoral so we won't let anyone that would like to watch such a show to do so. Even if we have to shove our will down their throats for their own good. Gee, such good christian understanding folks, NOT!!!
I appreciate it when people/organizations are willing to stand up to Hollywood's political agenda.
use the bible the right way not as a tool.
Ugh, you silly people and this "bible".
but most people say its a beautiful and amazing.
Gay families are not new, and they will never be normal.
Good for them-despite the name of the show it is not the NEW NORMAL and never will be.
Good for this station taking a stand. It shows that some don't want the liberal garbage of modern day TV floating into their homes. How nice of the "libs" to turn this into a Mormon and/or religious rant. They fail to acknowledge that it is the content of the show and nothing to do with religion.
You make a great point Cliff. We need to get rid of all the trash on tv and focus on the quality entertainment. Real Housewives, Jersey Shore, the Kardashians, Toddlers in Tiaras. This tv show about gay people is in danger of ruining the great moral groundwork these other shows are creating.
Keep screaming, Sam. But the world is changing and you need to wake up and notice it.
2 things I don't discuss, politics & religion. Lol at many comments, tho! I will say...on a road trip we stopped at Arches Park in Utah, it was beautiful. I'd love to go back & check out Zion National Park & surrounding areas.
Utah is a beautiful state. And good for KSL.
the mormons are wonderful people
thats right they can do whatever they want.
KSL is owned by the Mormon Church. They can show what they want.
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i know mormons and they are very sweet people, they are fun and work very hard and believe in God. i laugh at some of these bloggers because they have no knowledge of what they are saying yet keep talking.
I have no idea to what relation you are talking about, to what relevance your statement is to this article.
I know many gay people. They are great people. They work hard and pay their taxes. Some of them are even christians. I laugh at some of these anti-gay bloggers because they have no knowledge of what they are saying yet keep talking.
Wow, so much trash talk about Utah. I live here, and not everybody is Mormon. The church does not impact our life at all. We made sure we separate church and state. I'm not Mormon, and we're one of the fastest growing states. We don't have polygamists like people think, and we are not primitive. So, widen your knowledge before deciding we're all devils...
Well said!!! Utah is a lovely state!! It is great living here and the mormon church doesn't control everything
IShae, I live in Utah as well. Your wrong about polygamists. If you go in any direction out of Salt Lake City proper there are polygamist communities that are ignored by law enforcement for the most part. Mormons are nice. We like to call it fake nice. Kind of feels like they guilted into being aggressively nice. Nothing wrong with it but its fake. Like when a molester tries to get a kid to come in his van.
"The church does not impact our life at all. "
No, not at all, it just controls what you are allowed to see on TV. You see? No impact at all!
Let's play a word game: Take the second "m" out of MORMON and what do you have? Coincidence? I think not!
Utah is not in the dark ages. There are fast internet speeds there. The Pirate Bay has the programs your local stations censor, about two hours after airtime.
I was out riding my bicycle the other day. Giving out pamphlets and The Book when I came up on a hippie ! He was smoking wacky weed and listening to the devils music. I asked him if he knew about Joseph Smith. He Said he didn't so I said read this book. I gave him The Book Of Mormon and now his life is all changed around. He now had a good job and nice family and people that care about him. Last I heard he is getting a MBA and is ultra happy. Plus he lived happily ever after.
Nice piece of fiction. Isn't it amazing what years of brainwashing can do?
"I was out riding my bicycle the other day" Cool story, dude, so it was just the other day and he already has a family and an MBA and has lived his whole life? Get that dog off my roof.
Awesome story Nate! But I think you should have added something about Unicorns.
I dont get it Cam and Mitchell are getting their own show? Why would I watch that?
Us Mormons are Mormontastic !
@ Matt - "Not to rain on your superiority parade, but the television was INVENTED in Utah."
no, sorry, it was not.
Right. Idaho. Some consider it the same thing. The guy was a Mormon though. Maybe that is where the confusion is from.
Sorry, someone from Utah. And he didn't really invent it, because there were (electromechanical) televisions before him and better televisions after, but he certainly progressed the technology significantly. It may be conservative and not particularly forward-looking socially, but it's certainly got it's share of technology and to classify it is as some third-world backwater is inaccurate.
And no comment on the inaccuracy of suggesting they don't yet have flush toilets?
Oh WOW ! This story is amazing. They have TV in Utah!?? There's hope for getting flush toilets yet.
Not to rain on your superiority parade, but the television was INVENTED in Utah.
"prejudiced against living a clean normal life" LOL. There's no such thing. Did you miss the part about what the 'new normal" is? I know, get off your lawn. So long, Gramps.
yeah riiiiight. The new normal. Guys kissing guys and marrying each other. Suuuure. That is super normal. You sure must be a sad confused tattooed freak. Hopefully things will work out ok for you. If it dont, maybe try paroxetene 40mg daily. Not the best but it helps.
" try paroxetene 40mg daily. Not the best but it helps." Maybe you need to increase your dosage until you stop trying to counter-argue with dumbo replies like "oh you probably have tattoos." I've got your mom's name tattooed on my *****. Was that what you wanted to know?
"Libs and LGBTs are the most intollerant people out there. They are the modern day Nazis" And yet it is YOU calling US Nazis? I think you have it backwards, my swastika-saluting friend. You learn that in church?
i'm guessing that doesn't include the 10,000+ gay men who went to the gas chambers.
I have a bit of a problem with what you just said. Liberals are not intolerant. We believe in taking care of people. We believe in taking care of the planet. We only want this country to progress, not go back to the 50's. For all you bible thumpers, isn't your big expression, "what would jesus do"? I know he wouldn't turn his back on the poor, the sick, the disabled, but yet you conservative's want to get rid of all those programs that would help those in need. If you don't want to watch that show, don't. Nobody is twisting your arms. Stop putting labels on people. Try being a little more human.
While we're on the subject, can I just say I'd rather chew foil than watch this show, which promises to be snarky, smarmy, sneery, and sappy? Maybe I'm wrong, but it looks as if this show might have to be walked on a leash and fed dog biscuits. How about if the station had just said, ugh, boring, instead of SINNERS?
Umm, yup – you're wrong.
earl, has it aired yet? It would be nice if it was a hit, but it looks like they might be trying too hard. Just doesn't look like something I'd watch.
In Utah, CHURCH AND STATE ARE ONE. CENSORSHIP LIVES IN UTAH. And that's the end of it. And one of their devoted cultists wants to be president of the United States? In Utah, god only talks to men.
What sane person (read woman) would vote for such hogwash?
You seem like a sad biggotted person. Why are you so prejudiced against living a clean normal life?
It is funny how you ultra liberals seem to hate everyone with differing beliefs but always claim to practice tolerance. Libs and LGBTs are the most intollerant people out there. They are the modern day Nazis
You sound as if you might be kinda angry at the Church and some "men" of Utah. It is the right of all to participate or not in whatever one chooses. If we restrict one group from, or force one group to subscribe to any idea or principal, then all groups will become subject to the same treatment. I find your ideas to be dangerous as far as freedom of speech and religion, and there are many groups waiting to promote your ideas over your own stance. Let it not be done.
you sound ill-informed
Even if that was true, which it is not, that is why we have choices. Utah is Mormon land, no doubt about it, anyone moving there should relish their presence, their influence, etc. If not, there are forty nine other states where you can find concentrations of baptists, catholics, jews, muslims or atheists – whatever you are looking for. isn't america great?
It's only bigotry if your dislike is UNREASONABLE.
Disliking religion IS reasonable. Adult fairy-tales benefit NO ONE.
Fred, I will be the first to admit that bad people often get religion and reform and become better people. If it's a fairy tale, so frikkin what? Nothing wrong with religion when it's not snarling at your throat and trying to burn you at the stake or flying a plane into your building.
Romney's religion doesn't like to actively promote gay marriage., but is known for it's kind and charitable people.
Obama's religion (his pastor of 20 years) said 9/11 was "chickens coming home to roost" and has enough racist bigoted statements and beliefs to fill a book.
If you want to make this race about religion go ahead. There's no shortage of racist or anti-american reverend wright statements.
If you don't care for the show then you don't have to watch it. No one is going to force you to. Not running the show however is censorship. Not everyone shares your beliefs and should have to abide by your rules.
Censorship is good. Some things are just bad and need to be censored or disallowed. Our country has no morals today because of all the violence and gross stuff in the media. And yes I am saying the LGBT lifestyle is NOT normal. Political correctness is killing our nation. Not being able to target Islamic terrorist because it might be considered profiling, etc. Plus the LGBT freaks trying to get everyone to be like them and embrace their sickness. It is time the normal deacent people said enough is enough. I think after the election in November, when we the moral deacent majority speak through our votes, hopefully some of these freaks will settle back down
Privately owned TV station. They shouldn't be forced to air anything. They pay the bills and reap the consequences or benefits of their decisions. Why are you people acting like they shouldn't have a choice here?
Truth you are one scary Stepford wife. You have no moral compass and shouldn't be trying to judge anyone.
I feel that I should mention to some of you people that watching gay people on tv doesn't make you gay, and letting them alone doesn't mean you are gay yourself. It's being unable to leave them alone or keep your hands off them that is a sign of "gay panic." Stay calm, folks; I've been around hundreds of gay people and I am still a danger to the ladies.
Classic Mormon censorship. Remember if u vote for Romney this is what u will get on a national level. He will have a "hotline" directly to the LDS heirarchy and will do whatever they say
Do you really believe that or are you just into sensationalism? Come on, lets have honest debate, not fear mongering.
I can only hope. It is time this country is cleaned up. The LGBT freaks are not normal and their lifestyle is not the norm. They need to get over it.
Kirby's dad, that is the most inaccurate post I've ever read.
True Dat!!!!!!!!!! What a bunch of Bigots. I will never forget the time a man & woman tried to talk me into Joining the Tabby Nackle Cult in ST george & I simply said, hey no problem, I will join if you promote an African american to the elders!! Needless to say, that was the end of that conversation Abruptly. They should definitely have their tax exempt status Revoked for their Racist sop,s in the cult of 14 million!!!!!!!!!!
Elect me and I'll take ALL these nasty shows off the air. Except BIG LOVE, I love that show. So real. I'll also get rid of magazines and the internet, and we can all just read the Book of Mormon all day like God intended. Who's with me?
As someone living in the state where this was announced...I'm not the least bit surprised. KSL is owned by the LDS church (aka Mormons). The fact that they're blocking this show is pretty much a no brainer, especially after they did the same to the Playboy Club las year, before a single episode aired, simply based on their assumption of the storylines. The majority of people in Utah who watch KSL are going to agree with this decision and probably wouldn't have watched the show anyways.
For those that want to watch the show, the CW affiliate will air it on the weekends, though an exact time slot is still being worked out. Not to mention nearly every tv show can be found online somewhere. I would theorize that the majority of the people who might be interested in this show are at least tech-savvy enough to know how to find it online if they'd rather not wait for the weekend re-airing.
Good for them! Taking a stand for what they think is right. Really sick of people trashing others for having their own beliefs or opinions that might differ. Ever heard the phrase "agree to disagree"? Learn it and stop hating and bashing others. Stop with the righteousness and BS
"Stop with the righteousness and BS" OK, you go first then.
Except "agree to disagree" in practice translates to air the show and let people agree or disagree by CHOOSING whether or not to watch. Denying the choice is not agreeing to disagree.
@Pliny, I don't think "we" are keeping you from growing and enjoying life. You can adopt children, you can even have gestational carrier "birth" your own baby and you have the right to, like every other American, as the Declaration of Independence guarantees, Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness. However, what you and the LGBT community doesn't like, is that the majority has voted, time and again, to say that marriage is between a man and a woman, period.
THANK YOU! Could'nt have said it better myself.
" that the majority has voted, time and again, to say that marriage is between a man and a woman, period."
Actually most people don't care; it's powerful religious organizations which have imposed their will on you. Be glad they like you right now, eh? You might be next.
Why should the majority get to decide who should marry who?
FYI, you should probably stop using the whole voting argument. Unless you plan on changing sides pretty soon, since LGBT marriage has been gaining support tremendously for the past 15 years, and it's getting near the tipping point.
It amazes me that when one or a group stands firm against immorality or sin they are classified as bigots. Right is always right, it doesn't change just because an idiot says it has. Class act KSL!!!!
This show is not normal, or moral.
LOL! It always amazes me that people take things they don't like, slap the labels "sin" or "immorality" on them, and think that's an argument.
Right is right, and you are wrong.
Ahh...nothing like sticking your head in the sand and pretending it'll all go away.
It's not sticking your head in sand and ignoring the issue. It's taking a stand for what they think is right! If I thought for a minute people like you would go away, I'd stick my head in the sand but unfortunately you'll still be here.
This show isn't even going to last the month, so nothing to see here. More along folks...
We're slowly becoming a church state and it scares the daylights out of me. So many people complain about Muslims but Christians aren't any better.
They are just making people want to watch it by banning it. It probably won't last long
Sorry, it looks like garbage to me too, but "liberal?" Ten percent of everyone is gay, and that includes you Republicans. Sorry to burst your big pink bubble, boys. The show will probably be big, and the station will look like a Chick-Fil-A for not running it. You will be looking at this for a long time, especially if you all make a big point of how far up your conservative fannies it gets.
So porn and violence in the family room prime time is ok with the Mormons. But men taking family responsibility to have and raise children beckons the end of civilized society, and eventually, humanity. Go figure.
Who said porn and violence is OK in Mormon households? Routinely spoken against if you know anything about the LDS Church.
Porn is always cool. Boiiiiiinginging : )
There is one sure way to protect yourself, your children, your dogs and grandchildren from the dreck that wants to be called "entertainment". Use that big red button on your remote and turn the television OFF! And, if you don't have anything intelligent to say about the topic above, please go to a website that is a better fit for your moronic, juvenile banter.
@Ellen Barkin "So L&O SVU (rape & child murder) is ok? But loving gay couple having a baby is inappropriate?"
The rapists and murderers are not the protagonists on L&O SVU.
"The rapists and murderers are not the protagonists on L&O SVU." Yeah, they totally are. I quit watching CRIMINAL MINDS because of that. The interesting people are murderers and sadists.
Allow me to offer another question then, js113: So Jersey Shore, Real Housewives, the Kardashians, Toddlers in Tiaras, etc. are all valid forms of entertainment, but a sitcom about gay men having a baby crosses the line. You really think out of everything I just listed, this show is the one that's hurting America?
If you watch TV, you are wasting your time anyway. You should be able to waste it anyway you want.
Good for them. This is not the "new normal".
"Good for them. This is not the "new normal"." Nice denial, but the article is about how a station in the most uptight and self-righteous part of our country is the only place that's not going to carry it. What does that tell us, class? Normal, right?
Well for those of us who want to have an honest conversation about this I think it is about a TV channel that actually took a stand against something progressives are trying to push into the norm of society. The station is owned privately. Do you have a problem with people making a stand based on their morals? Apparantly you do. The thing that gets me about people who are so adamant about gay and lesbian rights are so willing to spew hatred and coerce people into their point of view. Keep up your goofy comments though. It really adds to the honest debate in this country about a serious issue.
Show's like this seem to aim for the right place, but miss the point. I realize that we're entering a time where gays are becoming more accepted, but basing a show around them seems to highlight the previous shunning of the gay community, by virtue of the show being "cutting edge" because it features gay main characters. It reminds me of the sixties and seventies where there were TV shows about the white family who's new neighbors turn out to be black, and the whole show would be about the white families old hangups and discomfort about being around the black family and their "crazy" ways. In 2012, we no longer have shows like that because the idea of white families hanging out with black families isn't shocking. It's no longer an awkward topic. Black and white people simply co-exist for the most part, and it works out fine. We don't need to base a show around gay people who want a baby just to make a statement that it's okay, even though it makes a lot of people feel awkward. Let's not put gay people up on a pedestal because we used to shun them. When gay's having a baby on tv is still novel enough to base a show around, we haven't really accepted them yet. The show only exists because prejudice still exists. It's built around it. If we really accepted gays we'd ignore them and walk past them without giving them a second glance in the street, like we do everyone else.
You have a limited point. However, gay people DO have children. Shows are about almost anything. Why not that? There is absolutely no reason to ban this show. The only reason it would be banned is due to bigotry. And that proves we are not 'there' yet.
"It reminds me of the sixties and seventies where there were TV shows about the white family who's new neighbors turn out to be black" Maybe if you had attacked those shows really viciously, they wouldn't have succeeded and it would still be white people doing Gilligan's Island remakes? Yes, this is the equivalent of those shows, and probably shows will become less self-conscious later on.
so what comment was for emily
It's good to see someone is standing up to the new status quo that an openly immoral Hollywood is trying to inflict on Middle America. I don't personally have a problem with LGBTs, but the more they force their unsolicited beliefs down me and my children's throats, the more I have a good reason to dislike them as a group. Hopefully, people will recognize that new show for what it is, liberal propaganda garbage!
Why watch it if you don't care for it? How can something like this be shoved down our children's throats when it's their parent(s) job to monitor what their kids watch? Kids nowadays go to school with other kids from LGBT families. They don't have a problem with these children or their parents... it's adults and people on the wrong side of history that make something dirty with their fear and religions ignorance.
Force? I guess you can't change the channel?
So don't let your children watch it. You are the one responsible for what they learn. I do feel sorry for your kids, though. They will have a very narrow minded view of the world. I know; I lived in Utah for 9 years!
" I don't personally have a problem with LGBTs, but the more they force their unsolicited beliefs down me and my children's throats," Why do you always have to say they are shoving "it" down your throat? Are they REALLY doing that? Your dang Freudian slip is showing there.
" I don't personally have a problem with LGBTs," I guess not, if you let them shove it down your throat. Gross, man.
That cigar smoking dog is the worst. He says bad words sometimes. And does number two on the carpet.
Does "Modern Family" air in LDS-majority communities? How different is this show from that one?
Modern Family is a bad show too. It has that cigar smoking dog and that little talking baby named Stewie. I never let my children watch it. Cartoons should be wholesome and family oriented.
@Jeff you are talking about the wrong show completely.
Michelle...Modern Family airs on a different station that's not OWNED by the church.
KSL also refuse to air The Playboy Club last year, and it was cancelled after a few episodes.
Perhaps KSL actually has a really good sense of what people do and do not want to watch.
Besides, must THE WHOLE WORD accept Hollywood standards hook, line, and sinker?
KSL has ensured that The New Normal will be available in the same market on another channel. So everyone wins. KSL protects their brand, those who want to watch the show can. Those who want to take a stand and support can do so without concern of being bombarded by the new normal standard of the feckless thugs who think that if you don't believe exactly like they do, you are automatically a bigot (which actually makes them bigots).
See, it's a win, win.
Well that is just dumb. Everyone loves thingies. There is nothing more wholesome than nice thingies. They are fun to squeeze and to look at.
I think that the name of the show says it all...The New Normal tries to set up alternative lifestyles as perfectly normal and acceptable. Just as run of the mill as anyone else's lifestyle. Afterall, every sort of lifestyle should be acceptable, right? Well, I mean not a two parent Christian home where the father figure is a role model and not a buffoon. That would be completely silly and not warrant any air time what so ever – there is NO market for that. Trust Hollywood on that point. But a gay couple wanting to have kids – that's something society certainly wants to encourage and demystify so that we can all be more progressive in our thought processes. I agree with the idea that if the show pushes the envelope too far, it will be cancelled before the end of season 1. Then again, Desperate Housewives aired for something like 9 seasons, so there is no telling just what people will watch these days.
"a two parent Christian home where the father figure is a role model and not a buffoon" Actually, that would be the Cosby Show. Watch it in reruns.
Hopefully when Mitt is elected they will round up all the gays and lesbians and do something with them. Maybe put them in jail or make them see a psychiatrist.
Why, Jeff? It is not a mental illness. I fi was in a mean mood, I would suggest that since it's the chriastians causing all these problems, maybe we should round them up. But I'm having a really nice day, so I won't.
Mormons aren't Christians. We are Latter Day Saints.
I truly hope your dick isn't as small as your brain.
As a lesbian I find that very insulting.
You are ignorant! Do you even know how many gay people there are in this country? There are more then 30 million. You should be locked up!
" when Mitt is elected they will round up all the gays and lesbians" Wow, you live in a fantasy world where these people have no civil rights and no relatives. I might give you a chance to get your mom back unharmed if you let my sister go unharmed and really fast, but after that you would have nothing left to bargain with. Would you like a head start and a bag of Chick-Fil-A?
LOL at all the people who took the trollbait
LOL. Do they show the real trash still? Toddlers in Tiaras, Jersey Shore, Real Housewives, the Kardashians..... The list goes on and on. But a sitcom about gay people is what's ruining America? Laughable.
I heard Pliny works in the recieving department at the Keebler Fudge Factory. He likes when the elves pack the fudge in his hollow tree. That or Pliny is a lesbean
It is a wonder that NBC can stay in business with the program lineup they now have. Their push to legitimize the glb lifestyle has lost them way more viewers than it has gained. The only time I watch NBC these days is to watch some sporting event and I have the channel changer ready to miss the liberal agenda comercials.
Well guess what pauleky and wimshurst you're both bigoted against Christians so why don't you take your own advise, Ignorance is as ignorance does, who's calling who ignorant...bigots
I watched the first episode and it was ultra lame. Probably the dumbest show on tv. It reminded me of Family Guy without Stewie and the little dog.
may watch the first show - i am not sure it will do well . you never know!
In Utah we know right from wrong and will not accept wrongness just because some liberal gay lesbean hippies whine. Thank goodness for our stand our people have taken against wrongness.
LDS – but it's ok to marry children?
Wha? With your compounds with multiple wives and everything? You're joking right? My gay partner and our son is much closer to the social norm. Thanks.
And everyone in Utah who doesn't subscribe to your idea of wrongness is not normal? There ARE gentiles there who don't subscribe to LDS beliefs. (FYI: gentiles are non-LDS in Utah-speak)
Yes, please continue taking your stand against wrongness all the way back to the 1950s. I mean who wants progress anways? Wouldn't it be better if only white people and Jesus controlled America, not these upity gays and minorities? Yeah... yeah there's nothing screwed up with that viewpoint.
This show looks to be beyond stupid, so I think this will be a non-issue.
Good. It's time we take the f!lth off television. I am very proud my LDS family has taken a stand.
Great. NBC should pull their affiliate license. Then this station could pull stellar ratings with an all local lineup. :)
Another bullying technique...if you won't play our way, we won't play with you! Why not just respect another person's or corporation's opinion and go change the channel?
Not a big story..since the show probably won't last more than a few episodes before being cancelled.
This is the world under mormonism. what morons
Damn those Mormons! Shame on them for protecting people from stupid television shows!!
Glad that there are stations out there with the courage to take responsibility for their programming and screen it for inappropriate family situations. I definitely don't want my kids thinking that this program is an example of "the new normal" as it is not. It's time that we the people stood up to the bullies who say that Christian family morals and values are "out of touch with the rest of the world". Sounds like a high school peer pressure technique to me. We will not be giving into peer pressure and we will stand for what is right, and good, and virtuous in this world.
LOL at craftymiser – trying to hide his bigotry with a sheet of 'Christianity."
And you sound like a bully, Craftymiser. You can hide your bigotry behind your Bible, but it's still bigotry. The station is privately owned and can do what they want. However, they are on the wrong side of history and years from now will be looked at just like the folks who tried to block segregation. Ignorance is as ignorance does. It's time to move into the 21st century and leave these hateful myths behind.
Thanks to christianity, the western world spent 1000 years living in the dark ages.
I think you and your god should go someplace and be alone. Let the rest of us progress. We don't want your values or your morales or your sanctimonious excuses for keeping us from growing and enjoying life.
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