Of all the shows currently on TV highlighting the gay experience in America, Vice President Joe Biden took it back - all the way back - with his shout-out to the '90s NBC sitcom “Will & Grace” on Sunday.
During an appearance on NBC's “Meet the Press," Biden said he's “absolutely comfortable” with same-sex marriage, and gave props to "W&G," which debuted in 1998, for changing the public’s perception on the topic.
"I think 'Will & Grace' did more to educate the American public than almost anything anybody has ever done," said Biden in a nod to the beloved series about a gay man living with a straight woman in New York City.
When the VP was asked if his own personal position on same-sex marriage was at the point where he would openly advocate for it, he responded, "I just think that the good news is that ... more and more Americans [have] come to understand [that] what this is all about is a simple proposition: Who do you love? Who do you love and will you be loyal to the person you love? And that's what people are finding out what all marriages, at their root, are about."
The stars of the NBC hit, Debra Messing and Eric McCormack, tweeted that they're flattered by Biden's name-dropping of their former gig.
"I'm thrilled Biden has come out in support of gay marriage and am beyond proud of what he said @ W&G #PROUD," Messing, who currently stars on "Smash," posted Sunday. "I could not be more proud. Thank you Mr. Vice President for yer support and yer words about 'W&G.'"
McCormack added, "Three cheers for VP Joe Biden! Fantastic interview. Now who ELSE is gonna step up?"
A lot of people care that are denied equal protection of the laws in this secular nation, which allows others to have whatever religious beliefs they want as long as the government doesn't endorse them.
Especially At Ug....bigotry Is What Should Be Illegal. I Hope And Pray You Did not Have Any Spawn To Spread Your Disease.
Nevermind the fact that he's worthless and could destroy the country worse than obama
He's actually worth millions and knows more about business and creating jobs than the Chicago Socialist. As for destroying the country, nothing could be worse than a 2nd term for the closet Muslim with the fake birth certificate. When he loses this November, America will start working again. Creating government jobs while the private sector stagnates is not helping us.
For all of you people commenting on this topic, let's get one thing clear.
Whether you believe in God, believe in science, or believe in absolutely nothing... let's be real. If a man loves another man, what does that mean?
Sure you can argue he may go to he11 or that he's a sinner. But c'mon all that aside... here's the FACTS. If a man loves another man, THAT MEANS MORE WOMEN FOR THE REST OF YOU GUYS OUT THERE. Plain and simple. So as much as you may judge or dislike a man who loves another man, think of the positive... more women for you.
I'M GAY AND PROUD OF IT!!!!
And going straight to Hell unless you repent your evil ways.
Why must people make this a forum for preaching? Every time one of these articles pops up there always has to be a debbie downer. Leave your preaching for the streets, please.
Now along with the religious babble by the "Reverend" comes the PMSing athiests. "Reverend" is trolling you guys. A REAL Reverend would not be on a gossip blog EVER.
Reverend, you do realize the Bible is just hocus-pocus?
You do realize you commented twice, right?
Reverend you do realize the Bible is just a book about hocus-pocus, right? And you claim to be intelligent... you poor thing.
Don't the Dems realize it is an election year...???? promises promises, but NO RESULTS! Wake Up America!
Biden is a such hypocrit! is you say is all about promisses and votes!
Consider the source – Biden = Mr. Magoo. Nuf said......
YBP – I would GLADLY go head to head with you any day. 3 Masters degrees in Theology here. Let's do it.
First, please explain where life came from if there is no divine creator.
Secondly, please explain (theologically) the allowance for gay "marriage".
Thirdly, according to Thomas Aquinas (if you REALLY think you know theology), explain the consequences of sin.
Finally, explain how sodomizers will escape the consequences of their sin.
If you can do all four of these things, I will myself become atheist.
1) why do you have 3 masters in the same thing.... At least waste the time on a PhD
2) Explain the ridiculousness of your question "explain theologically the allowance for gay marriage". If you constrain the argument inside of your own personal world view, of course the answer will fit your paradigm.
3) all of your questions you ask simply fit your paradigm.
It's like asking a frog the meaning of life and he says jumping.
I believe God created all of us to love Him and love one another. I have faith in God, which allows me to admit I can't even begin to know it all. You, on the other hand, seem to have a lot of faith in yourself - so much faith that you want everyone to be like you. Thankfully, God created a diverse world; I think He likes variation because look at all the different kinds of people, flowers, animals, geology... My faith allows me to be happy for others and to recognize that God loves them as much as He loves me. Will you be disappointed and angry to see your gay brothers and sisters in heaven? Will it tick you off to learn that you wasted a lot of your life oppressing them for no reason?
1. We are made out of the same atoms as the rest of the universe. There is no special god atom that resides in us. So, there is nothing to stop life from being on our planet or other planets.
2. This is not a theological question. People are not asking the government to force churches to marry gays. This is a legal issue and having certain rights under the law. Remember separation of church and state. The state can marry somebody without the approval of a religious organization.
3. Jesus died for our sins. All sins, not just the ones you feel are appropriate to be forgiven.
4. Same as answer 3.
If you don't believe Jesus died for our sins and that 3 "theological" degrees gives you the right to not notice the log sticking out of your own eye, you are not a Christian, and might as well be an atheist.
As a catholic, who has an MBA, I can prove to you why jebus and god are fake. One if the Bible was accurate, then Jebus would have been around 10 when he performed his miracles. Secondly, there was no printing available of any kind, and the spoken word cannot be translated accurately into several languages, and the spoken word cannot be accurately passed down verbatim for over 1450 years. In case you werent aware, Guttenburg printed the first bible in the mid 1400's. Finally, if you are a fundamentalist than you believe its ok to rape women, stone people, and marry underage, women and force them into domestic slavery. The worlds most popular fiction novel is full of contradictions,and you cannot only quote the passages you like, and forget about the ones you dont.
As for your argument about how life began, its called The BIg Bang Theory, and evolution. Both of these have been accepted by the scientific community.
Basically, Im saying you paid a good amount of money toi get degrees that specialized in the greatest fiction story ever told.
"3 Masters degrees in Theology here"
Three masters degrees in the same subject.
That is almost as stupid as believing in a 2000 year old fairy tale.
In case you were wondering, the world is not flat.
It sounds like you are a non-believer. I think you need to read my blog article to be sure: http://www.halfbakedlunatic.com/post/2012/04/27/Im-A-Believer!.aspx
BTW who at Oral Roberts university told you it was a good idea to get three masters degrees in the same thing?
You're pathetic. Nice trolling there, got everyone all up in your business. Pat yourself on the back for a job well done... then open your eyes and realize you just wasted not only your time but ours as well.
@Reverend – while you were busy getting your 3 MA's I was busy porking your wife. Now there was some divine creation. Oh, and she doesn't want to escape that sin brother, she wants more of it.
Out of all the responses, you were the only one who gave an answer. I applaud you for not missing the point and I respect you for your responses. But I'd like to point out that Reverend is probably a troll. He wanted to "challenge" everyone here to answer his questions, but in my opinion he was just stirring the pot to get people all worked up over nothing. Unfortunately, the other commenters had nothing better to say than to hurl insults.
Intelligent conversation has nothing to do with religion or science. It's called "when someone asks a question you answer it without directly insulting the other person."
Nice. Now you have three things you can use as toilet paper if you ever run out.
just shows Biden's a bigger flip-flopper than Romney. if gays can't reproduce, why are their numbers increasing? @YBP, God still believes in you, but I think you're an idiot.
7 put of every 10 lesbians are woman... Why reproduce when you can fornicate? Don't allow your mind to be sodomized ...
I believe God loves everyone. But I know for a fact gays couple are not producing their own babies.
"But I know for a fact gays couple are not producing their own babies"
Do they steal them?
Leave him alone. He has nothing better to do with his time than to sit on here instead of being a real father. He would rather sit in his trailer park and figure out how he's going to pay his rent on his welfare check. These are the ones we should vote against, not the gays. Vote to subject the low lifes like this to public humiliation. They do nothing fo this country but bring it down. Its ok though. I will go to work tomorrow and pay my taxes to take care of his family since he can't do it himself.
Touching story! Makes me want to administer a puffer.
Just one more reason for me to not vote for Biden and Obammy. This country will be better off once this immoral pansy is voted out.
I feel sorry for a lot of you on your comments. To have such a life where all you have to do is sit in judgement of how people are born. You are the "clan" of this generation. Hopefully your family members have better people to look up to.
one thing good aboot being a ghost is ya dont have to take a dump anymore....dont have to wipe my butt..dont have to worry aboot skid marks in my undies and dont have to worry aboot funking up the whole house..im just sayn
We always knew Joe was one of us. Come on over, Joe. You bring the wine, we got the lube.
Not just a liberal thing for chris t sake. Dick Cheney and his daughter ring a bell ?
I've plowed lots of gays. And, they give good head, too.
Everyone is a sinner, daily. Religion is nothing near to what is should be, and was. Ignorant people just turned it into another way to control, destroy, and divide. Ignorance is so easy, isn't it? Mind your business, does it hurt you personally? I dont care if gays marry, its humans life to live how they want, in peace.
If straight folks that have children are affraid of the questions that their children ask...they should not breed...you are actually creating more fear and ignorance and abusing your own children
And if straight folks who have children are affraid of the questions that their children ask.....please do not breed....you are creating more idiots out of your ignorance and fear.
Adam and Eve are not great role models..they brought original sin into the garden. Gay and lesbian and transgender people have the same rights as everyone else...they have not created any sin in the garden of Eden.
That is very Good! Take that you Bible Thumpers, who Hate like Demons.
That is bc Go d hadn't screwed up and made them yet. Take that bible thumpers.
...yet when Dan Quayle compared real life to a TV show, he was held up to ridicule for years......
Dan was ridiculed for a lot of things. He was easily the dumbest vp of all time.
Because Dan Quayle is an idiot.
You people should be thankful gays exist. Can you imagine how over-populated the world would be if everyone was straight?
Hmmm, I never thought of it that way.
Good for Joe! There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with being gay, nor with gay people marrying each other. It will become the law of the land everywhere, someday, so get used to it. The only perverted thing is to deny them equal rights to straight people!
The bible was written by MEN, probably even some gay men (closeted) and is a bit outdated and full of symbolism that doesn't apply. Certainly very little of it can be believed nor followed in our modern age.
Take it easy oh gay one. We won't want you to get a brain hemorrhage or worse bursting your hemorrhold. Take a deep breath, step away from the computer and take a fly around the block
Thanks. I'll take your advice, oh anonymous, closeted, cowardly one.
You nailed that one on the head @ ypb !a coward in deed.
If Joe's takes it up the poop shoot on national TV then I may believe him.
YBP it's clear you're smart... Chill a bit... Most of these people are easy game because they really don't know WHY they think the way they do, therefore after about 3-4 skilled questions you can put 'em back in their cage cowering...
If Gay people are bared from Marriage (if they even choose to marry) they should also BAN Divorce, you married 'em your stuck with 'em till death do you part. News Flash Gay people who would Marry are already living together, and its not destroyed the world, they only seek legal protection under the law to defend each other in sickness and health or Death. No hateful family members deciding how hurt the Partner once they are in a health crisis. "Christian Values" taught them to hate Gays. You can be a corporate crook, and thats okay.
Cathy you should start your comment with "in my opinion," so you sound somewhat enlightened. Peter- It's clear who you are... Diamond dave are you serious...? You say fruits, I say educated.
you're gay like a brick aren't you? Do you drink many redbulls or is it your natural fairy wings that makes you fly so you can sprinkle your fairy dust upon the world with all your gayness?
Well, since you're so interested, I identify first and foremost as an atheist, then anti-theist, then a Jesus/Christianity expert (know your enemy!), and then, since I am legally married to another guy, and have been for five years, I suppose that makes me gay. Nothing to be ashamed of, despite your bullying and name calling. I've been called worse...and I've sued...and I've won. LOL. $$$
@YBP oh please save your liberal perverted lies...you are not married "legally" to another man...it is just a pervert living with another pervert...Your atheist and you try to come across as some educated know it all to try and defend your perversions of life...your not man enough to be a man and raise a family with a real woman that is female at birth in case you didn't get it...not the kind of "female" that dresses up in girl clothes...You expect other people to accept your follies and perversions and think of yourself as "normal" when all you are is a sick liberal that has no cure for your sickness. You feel guilty in your way of life and decisions you have made and you blame others for your choosing the gay life. Typical liberal s do this. You want us to all accept your guilt of the way you live your perverted life with your little parades and shaking your a– and acting like a bunch of little freaks that you do and you all talk with a lisp...what is with that boy! I bet your parents are real proud of you...your dad wanted a boy and your mom a girl and they got you...both of them were disappointed. Take your b u t t packing ideas and shut the heII up and move to a middle eastern country and wear a burqua. You little pervert.
ybp–serious issues and anger. Get some help. Life is too good to be so angry.
whoops trying to say Ug has...to ybp. I need to leave...why does someone have so much hate in them. Scary stuff people.
I'm voting for Romney, but am happy that Biden said what he said... Kirk- Don't take this personally, but 'wake up.' Tell your kid the truth! What are you afraid of...? Don't hide behind the bible... I'm sure that's where you're going... What are YOU afraid of...? Educate your son without prejudice, my man... Teach your boy that people are different... You don't have to like it or promote a lifestyle, but teach him the truth about life... He will respect you even more later on in life... Come on...
you are voting for Romney because you are an idgit. NEXT
Ha Ha .....you are voting for Romney ha ha, he will name Rubio a Cuban whose parents came illegal from Cuba..... as a Vicepresident imagine that? pretty soon we will have a Latino President I wonder why this beautiful Country is going down! .not way from my vote !
What bible do you read??
I have read King James, Good News and Jeruslem Bibles...I also have over a hundred other books on Judaism, Christianity, the historical figure of Jesus, and Jesus Movies. Care to go head to head on this subject?
No pork, animal sacrifice, no cross-dressing, incest...all in there. Shall I continue?
Well they're taking me out of everthing, it's no wonder America is going to hell.
You're the figment of a disturbed bronze age imagination , Yhwh. Why don't you turn yourself into a puff of smoke and drift away?
Well you sure are blasphemer.
You're in a pit of snakes here...let em bite on each other
Why dont you go as well.
The bible says Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
The Bible says no shellfish, no face shaving, stone the non-virgins, and take slaves from neighboring countries...which is also nonsense.
Jesus said that the Kingdom would come in his disciples' lifetime. Wrong again, JC. Luckily, St Paul postponed it until the 5th of never.
The bible also says....Peter Peter pumpkin eater had a wife & couldn't eat her,
It also says bats are birds, and slavery is ok. What's your point? Such a stupid slogan. Adam and Eve were hardly role models anyway.
That would've been funnier if you were the first person to come up with that. But you weren't.
MARRIAGE SHOULD BE BETWEEN ONE MAN AND ONE WOMAN.
...THUS SAITH THE LORD!
Education would be the remedy to that disease that you're suffering from: The God Delusion.
Tell that to your wife.
If you're against gay marriage... don't marry one, dimbulb !!
Biden is dumber than a rock.
Yet you have the name Cornhole on a public forum......... what does that say about your intelligence?
The public does NOT want gay marriage. The people of California voted against it. The gay right people did not like that so they sued. A judge agreed. WHY LET THE PEOPLE VOTE if a judge is just going to overturn it. What happened to America??
The real question is why let people vote on other people's rights?
So if California had voted to deny the right to vote to, say, Jews, it'd be totally okay? Yeah. Didn't think so. Go back to your hole, you miserable hypocrite, and stay there.
You don't hold votes on people's rights! What part of this don't you get???
So do u think that people should vote on issues like segregation and interacial marriage?
who i screw, is none of your business! period! Move on!
it's rather sad what a fallen nation we have. corruption reigns throughout the political arena, no moral compass anywhere. The sinful nature of this entire nation is awful and we're all paying the price for it. My 5 year old came home from school to inform me that his best friend had a mom that was really a dad and a dad that was really a mom. When I inquired, he simply said "why does colin have two fathers and no mother?" Explain that one.
"Because, Timmy, sometimes two boys love eacher, and sometimes two girls love each other...the same way that mommy and daddy love each other. And that's the way God made them." Piece of cake. Try it. You'll like it.
So sit down and tell him why be afraid to talk about it? Oh I know because you don't want the little crossdresser to turn out like them.
You are a pathetic father if you are afraid to explain to your child that not every single family on the planet is going to be identical to yours. If you cannot explain that men fall in love with men or that women fall in love with women, how are you going to explain the *truly* difficult things like murder and rape and war? And why is it so hard for your to explain the concept of love when you apparently have no trouble explaining the "Yeah, son, we *say* that everyone is equal in this country, unless we don't like them...then it's okay to treat them like animals." You make me sick.
Okay Daddie, but how do the g@y men get their baby out of the tummy and how do they make the baby ? Then who is the mom and who is the dad ? Daddie you confused me and messed up my little brain. Maybe Father John can teach me about it, some more.
You made a baby... now be man enough to figure out how to explain the complex nature of human beings to him. I'm sure you take him to violent movies, swear around him, etc. Quit acting like such a goodie goodie.
"Well, son, your friend has 2 dads because they love each other. Some day you'll find someone who you cannot bear to be without, and that person will become like the other half of you. For your friend's dads, their someone happened to be another man. Families are about love, son. That's all you need to think about."
It's easy. Kids get the idea of love. Do you freeze up when you have to explain why some kids in his class live with their grandparents because their parents don't feel like raising them anymore?
"When I inquired, he simply said "why does colin have two fathers and no mother?" Explain that one."
Because his parents are gay.
Are you too stupid too figure that out?
Diamonds are a gurrrrrl's best friend, right Dave? 'Cause sometimes you want to be extra fancy!
Read his quote again ...... he NEVER actually states that he would openly advocate for it.
Everyone of these people, are fruits
Diamond Dave: the fact that you took the time to write that shows how very insecure you are about yourself.
I'm not gay, but my boyfriend is
It's an election year. If Biden thought he could get more votes with, "If you elect O and me, I'll gas every gay between New Jersey and California.", then he would've said that.
Any politician worth his salt knows that you must say what the public wants to hear in order to get their vote. After you are elected, you can back paddle and deny it all.
So, what you have said is the public wants gay marriage.
The gop have been known for that for many many years.
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