At a Tuesday press conference in Hollywood, to announce their co-headlining tour, KISS and Motley Crue bragged that their show would feature live, take-no-prisoners rock and roll.
"No karaoke singers allowed. No fake bullsh*t," scoffed KISS bassist Gene Simmons. "Leave that to Rihanna-Schmianna and everybody else whose name ends with an 'a.'"
Later, Simmons' cohort, Paul Stanley, took the diss even further in an interview with CNN.
"When you think about a lot of the shows you go to see, they're not live!," said the guitarist. "You go to these shows and you go, 'Wow, it sounds just like my album. It IS the album!"
"All they gotta learn is the choreography and lip-syncing," he continued.
The members of KISS clearly aren't concerned with coming off as politically correct.
Stanley explains, "We're not going to be preaching about saving the whales. We're not going to be talking about toxic sludge. We're up there to rock and roll. Everybody deserves a night off, and that's what this is."
KISS and Motley Crue have named their trek of 40-plus American cities, "The Tour."
"It IS 'The Tour," explained Motley Crue bassist Nikki Sixx. "Motley Crue and KISS put on two of the biggest shows in rock. And to do it together and in one night? It's 'The Tour!'"
Stanley concurs. "It's not a rock concert. When you put us together, it's an event. It's bombastic. There will be a no-fly zone over the arenas and amphitheaters. We're going to have more artillery than most third world countries. People are going to come and go, 'I know why these bands have lasted.' Because we know how to do it."
Even though it's a co-headlining tour, Sixx says Motley Crue will take the stage before KISS - and rightly so.
"I remember in Jerome, Idaho, 4,000 people - I had a KISS poster, an Aerosmith poster and the Sweet on the wall. And for me, to go out and do this together, it's an honor," he said.
Simmons joked that the show's opening act should feature a certain video from Motley Crue drummer Tommy Lee.
"We're actually in the middle of giving scientists a chance to do a 3-D version of Tommy's sex video," he quipped.
"It's going to poke your eye out, that's the problem," added Stanley.
"I think this is a perfect, perfect match. Maybe a match made in hell - some places in America might maintain - but a perfect match. It's going to be all-night-long hits, bombs, girls - topless, a few - and Motley Crue and KISS. I can't wait to experience it myself," Sixx concluded.
"The Tour" kicks off July 20th in Bristow, Virginia. Tickets go on sale Friday at ticketmaster.com and livenation.com. Fan club pre-sales for both bands begin today.
WHO IS THIS OLD DUDE SIMMONS, THE OLD GEEZER NEEDS TO STFU AND SHOULDN'T EVEN BE LOOKING AT SOMEONE WHO IS YOUNG ENOUGH TO BE HIS GRANDCHILD, LET ALONE TALKING SMACK ABOUT RIHANNA. GOOD DAMN GRIEF, HOW PATHETIC THIS OLD GEEZER IS LEERING AT THIS YOUNG GIRL BEHIND THE SCENES THAT HE SHOULD EVEN KNOW WHO SHE IS LET ALONE WHAT SHE SINGS LIKE. EWWWW! MAKES ME WANT TO PUKE, AND EWWWWW AGAIN!
Between us speaking, in my opinion, it is obvious. I will not begin to speak on this theme.
By the way, what do you think about this icons site?
That's not amazing for sure but far away from being horrible!!
The thing is even if Rihanna has problems sometimes to sing well, she has her own empire and stupid comments by haters won't make her fall... Watch this if u think she cant sing live http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMrzkFP6X3U
And remember lot of live are maybe not amazing because depend on the material its hard to hear your own voice through the micro and make good notes and you have the pressure of the audience, the fear of doing bad things, it's hard to manage and she's just 24 and a girl... Go just one time to theatre class in front of 100 people and speak, you'll see the emotions you'll have. So imagine in front of 10000 people with all the press here to catch all the wrong music notes you would make... But I saw her in concert an i can assure you without dancing she can sing amazing!
And now she's just a legend and it's not her fault if almost everyone wants to be like her...
AND EVEN SOME ROCK STARS LIKE COLD PLAY ARE AMAZED BY RIHANNA!!!
And i think KISS had to mentioned Rihanna's name to have a bit of attention and they have to dress like clowns to have success... lol
And after all she has a great personality what import the most i think
Do you know anything about ROCK...
Its not about the clothes and the way they Dress Up...
Listen and see how they play the instruments... Rihanna Doesnt even deserve to touch the Guitar...
I though Kiss retired? And retired? And retired? Wish they would retire for good. Worst band ever.
Agree that Rihanna, Britney, etc. suck.
Gene and whatever the current KISS membership is should have retired years ago. Still kind of like Motley though.
FINALLY someone said something about today's FAKE MUSIC ACTS! Rhianna along with all the toxic waste the music industry dumps over today's sad youth are pretty mediocre acts! Today's trash is made up of 99% auto tune and guys in suits and ties selling you an act. So for all the crybaby kids,get over it you had it coming! Rock is back and so is true talent...enough with the lies,crap and rap,hip hop crap and all the American Idol mediocrity that has poisoned America to death! Wake up and learn what making music is all about!
BREAKING NEWS: GRANDPA DOESN'T LIKE RIHANNA'S MUSIC! (OR ANYONE ELSE WHO'S NAME ENDS WITH -A! NOW COME TO MY CONCERT AND LISTEN TO MY OLDIES DAGNABBIT!
I will agree to some comments but not in this way people bash,let's be honest people the generation today are what we were 30-40 plus years ago.Ok Gene saying harsh comments at other singers it a little too much and I agree that if you have nothing good to say they say nothing.Does today's music industry different than before,I think it is safe to say yes.Everyone has a opinion on what they like and there is nothing wrong with that.Now with that said I grew up with the who,deep purple,black sabbath, Rush,and yes KISS. They were all cool to me and in-fact still are and there really is something to be said about the big show that has been lost in today's entertainment.Really music is so subjective no matter what you think one way ore the other.As for Gene to sling mud at today's industry I would say was a low blow for sure.Do I think some things that were said are true? I would have to say yes but not all,let's face it anyone today can be a star as it's all tv tell you it should be with American idol.....America's got talent..... the list is endless.Cookie cutter today is true to it's meaning today and really is not like it use to be with Radio plugging bands and endless dive pars playing small gigs to gain fame.To say that KISS sucks is really not fair to say considering there was no technology like today only hard work.Millions & Millions of fans and packed event's can't be wrong.Let's face it there icons.But in fairness Gene should really take a good look at himself before he passes judgement on others saying this like all you need is a bunch of dancers and lip-syncing tapes.I don't know about that Gene, the last time I looked at you guys you did not have the same drummer or how many guitarists now Gene?Are you really still KISS?What about Ace? What about Peter? So what Gene is saying it's ok to turf the real tallent and replace them with a back-up band & when that does not work that good you put back on the make-up to cover the truth & when that does not work you decide to buy out the early members make-up characters so we can all "think that this is the real thing'?So when you say lip-syncing sucks is pretending to have Peter & Ace in your group faking too???? All you need is a bunch of dancers....so are you saying all you need is make-up to impersonate past band members??? Is it really not about survival Gene?Pretending the band is still together is not the real deal Gene! I may not like today's music,but I'm not a huge fan of your tribute band today.I will always respect the old groups & Kiss when we got the real show with all members, but today's "KISS" is not the real thing also.
I have already purchased my VIP tickets for the tour of the century. I can't wait. It's my 3rd time to see KISS...and they are the most exciting band to watch....YOU WANT THE BEST...YOU GOT THE BEST!!!!
Gene Simmons synonymous to genius,look at all of these comments.He knows for three years people haven't let up on Rihanna and Chris Brown if it wasn't for his kids he probably wouldn't even know this.He does know what a judgmental society we live in,there's so much meanness,ignorance and envy.Like an earlier blogger said no one would know about this tour if Gene hadn't mentioned Rihanna,Genius.
While Rihanna is overrated (to say the least), Kiss are complete sell outs and their music TRASH! Look at them. They dress like clowns, they have NEVER had a major presence on the radio. Now the only way they can get any media attention is by dissing other artists. Sure they have sold a lot of records but if we are using that as a point, Madonna has sold more...way more. They are lame, pathetic and gross. Since they are such wonderful musicians, why have the not been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? His comments are ridiculous, its not like its coming from Tom Petty, Don Henley, Neil Young, or Sir Paul. It's coming Kiss, which is almost like a compliment coming from them. Kiss=trash!!!!!
KISS might not be among the best in terms of musicians, but they, as a whole, have a lot more talent than these modern day pop artists who are "singing" over a beat that they paid for someone else to produce. Anyone that has actually played in a band knows how difficult a process it is to compose music and develop chemistry, so while I don't like KISS and would never buy their albums, they have quit a bit of talent relative to Rihanna or any other entertainer.
Rihanna is not an artist. People throw that term around too loosely these days. She's an entertainer, but there is nothing particularly creative or artistic about what she's doing. I'm sure that if I got up on stage and farted through a microphone many people would be entertained, but that damn sure doesn't make me an artist.
You Got it Man....
Picking a fight with Rihanna, how sad is that.
Get rid of autotune and you get rid of these no talent, overpaid, wanna be, disposable pop stars. Period.
There are a lot of bad singers out there including some rockers! Don't know why the singled out Rihanna. Does Kiss have something personal against her? Admittedly, she isn't that great of a singer. What I don't like is all of the over synthesized, over produced music, that and all the generic radio stations with the same playlists.
Too bad Gene Simmons could not promote himslf and speak for himself without the negative reference to other artists.
Chris said: What are you talking about? I would agree with you about Gene Simmons' singing voice (e.g. the song Dr. Love), but Paul Stanley sings most of their songs and used to be able to sing great back in the 80s. You apparently haven't heard much of their music. Their most well-known song (Rock N Roll All Night) is a very poor example of Paul Stanley's voice."
Chris, you must not have heard much of their music, or Rock N Roll All Night. It's not sung by Stanley, it's sung by Gene, as is a lot of their songs.
Anybody else here have the KISS comic book printed with blood from all the band members? There was a photo in it of Paul, Gene, Ace, and Peter standing with their bleeding arms over an ink vat. Obviously, this was pre-AIDS...those things are probably classified as biohazards now. Read at your own risk!
Chris, you must not have heard much of their music, or Rock N Roll All Night. It's not sung by Stanley, it's sung by Gene.
I find it sad that they have to diss another artist who is half their age to get attention. Perhaps they are trying to be newsworthy. So what they sold millions of records. I have a feeling by the time she is there age she would have done the same and she wouldn't have had to dress in drag to do it.
this is not KISS it is Paul and Gene without ACE and PETER they are just a cover band....sorry.
I can't say I think Gene Simmons has an operatic quality voice (!) either but I have never "gotten" the rihanna phenomenon except, I guess, that she likes to get naked or near-naked continually and that appears to be all you need to do to get attention. Her voice is as nasal, whiny, and effects-manipulated as you can get.
Long Live KISS!!
No, Rhianna CANNOT SING. Only the heavens above understand why these performers of the moment are getting so much of the fame and fortune that so many other REAL SINGERs, performers and artists truly deserve – who are better looking and have all that it takes to gain huge success in the industry. It's a bloody mystery.
I'm certainly not a big KISS fan. However, it's hard to argue with success.
Isn't Gene Simmons like a hundred years old?
...and he's got a big pile of money.
Although they probably aren't as bad as Rhianna, I do have to agree that Kiss is not much more than an over-rated garage band. Their instrumental quality could easily be matched by most second year music students and their lyrics are even worse. ( Rock and Roll All Night) They are like many other "Rock Bands" in that they filled a void that was felt by a group of pre-pubescent neanderthals whose goal wasn't to find a "new sound" but to find something that they could claim was their own but different from the current mainstream. Same thing happened with Elvis, Buddy Holly, the Beatles, the Rolling Stones, Michael Jackson and about 100 other musical acts. The phenomenon is known as adolescent rebellion and is the result of those high levels of hormones raging through their bodies.
...and your point is?
I have new respect for Gene Simmons. Glad someone is speaking against Rihanna's singing, if not her choice for going back to Chris brown.
To the guy that said Kiss has not sold 200 million records....your totally wrong, they have sold over 200 million records world wide.
Like Gene or not what he is saying is right. Music made for the masses should be perfomed not dubbed... Auto tune, hooks and mixers have made it easy for producers to create and sell an image quickly and on the cheap. Rap is a prime example.. Back in the BDP, EPMD, Public enemy days a punk rapper would get tossed. Now any idiot with a hook and autotune can make hit.
Jake Rockwell, you said it like a PRO! Cheers!
Cant wait for this tour, KISS and MOTLEY CRUE... Gonna be awesome. KISS and MOTLEY CRUE are amazing talents. The ultimate in performances and can completely rock out any stadium in the world. Rhianna is just what Gene said she is, if you like that ok, but for me its boring. Gene choose to center on her, but there are many more like her that he could have used for an example. You dont write your songs, play your instruments and sing live then you aint nothing...
Spoken by a true hood rat. Go back to school and learn to "right" english.
WHO NEEDS TO GO BACK SCHOOL ??? EXACTLY WHAT I'M SAYING, QUIT JUDGING PEOPLE...
Gene Simmons vs Rihanna in a singing contest....... I arrest my case.
You arrest your case? Your teachers should be arrested lol
At this point kiss and motly crue can fill 15 or 20 ,000 seat arenas but stadiums no way no one can do that stadium concerts are gone no one wants to waste $ on what it costs to fill a footballl stadium that ended 10 yrs ago aside from paul mcartney but he is a true legend.....
KISS and MOTLEY CRUE together will have no problem filling a stadium.
I don't like Rihanna either – think she's a no talented hack, much like Brittany Spears et al. And I don't think KISS has exceptional voice talent. But the one thing no one can deny is that KISS are at least true musicians. They actually have extraordinary musical abilities. And when you go to see a live show, you're actually seeing a LIVE show. They're really playing those instruments – live.
That's my only gripe about this new breed of "singers" nowadays... I know the tweeny set think these ladies can do no wrong, but I just miss the days when you had to have actual talent to make it in the business and not just a great body and bad girl reputation. :(
Kiss doesen't play music...they play instruments.
Kiss, while you may not like their music, has talent. They write and sing their own songs. People like Rhianna DO NOT write their own songs and don't sing live. Therefore no talent.
this is coming from a band that recorded there live album (Alive) in the studio with crowd noises. hehehe. hipocritical.
If KISS doesn't like Rhianna, who really cares? They're not exactly rivals for the same audience...
Two different generations, two different kinds of music both bring their own perspective of what music can be an is. Gene needs to quit drinking his own koolaide and move over for a different generation of music. And please remember what your mother told you Gene, if you don't have anything good to say....don't say anything!
Kh: you are right - Gene SHOULD move over, when fans stop paying gobs of money for new concerts. It may be old, but some people still love it. Personally, I like classical music - most of it is REALLY old, but they still fill up concert halls with pieces by Beethoven, Wagner, and Mozart.
I think everyone should enjoy whatever music - or art - that they enjoy, and not worry about whether it is modern or not. If it speaks to YOUR soul, that's all that matters.
I thought these guys were dead or in a nursing home. Yes, they were GREAT years ago, but please spare me the make-up and dress. As far as todays musicians,it's there time. KISS OFF
Gene Simmons is old worn-out rocker has-been. Who gives a f–k what he thinks.
Gene Simmons has down syndrome. And he's gay.
I went to a kiss concert at about age 11 or 12, around '82. I loved them around age 7, but couldn't resist being able to actually see Kiss. The Plasmatics opened up. The stadium was half empty and the whole thing was a little anti climactic when Paul would talk to the crowd and get a half-hearted response. Just wanted to set the record straight on Kiss "packing stadiums" for years. I wouldn't bother, now, to see them. 60 year olds spitting fire, talking about rock and rolling all night? Come on! Whose fault is it that no better bands have taken their place?
"Joe-Rihanna looks like a monkey..."
So Rihanna looks like your mother?
He dissed her because all of her new songs are total garbage, and make absolutely no sense. Take "We Found Love" for instance. Not only is it totally annoying, especially when a radio station plays it 20 times a day, but the song itself makes no sense at all. She was much better pre-Chris Brown.
"She was much better pre-Chris Brown"
He beat whatever little amount of talent she might have had right out of her.
Rhianna = Millie Vanilli all over again...except she's hot. Aside from that, if I go to a concert, I want to hear the real voice and not some tape recording. Concerts these days are an overpriced joke.
i've seen her in concert before TWICE and she's sung every song LIVE and put on a damn good show...I think he has her confused with Brittany Spears who hasn't sung live since 1999.
So what... Kiss sucks giant donkey balls.
Rihanna looks like a monkey...
Who you like is based on your own taste and opinion. If people like Rihanna, they like Rihanna. If they like KISS, they like KISS. Publicity is the name of the game these days and KISS is playing that game. Regardless of their opinion or yours, Rihanna has a fan base that's actively buying her music and going to her shows and your comments or opinions won't stop that.
Where was KISS being politically incorrect?
All this new music is crap. Thanks.
Who do you think has a whinier more nasal sounding voice – Brittany or Rihanna? Too close to call?
KISS suck just as much as anyone else. No one would even be talking about their tour had he not dissed Rihanna.
Even rappers have tallent. They can't sing but they can talk fast and they spit out words that are coming from their heart. "If I said my heart was beating loud; If we could escape the crowd somehow; If I said I want your body now
Would you hold it against me?" Touching – I haven't used that line since high school and it didn't work once.
Cheers to the friggin weekend , yeah yeah !
@eddy fast – Yes Music is beautiful...Point is this POP cr@p is not music. We are saying its synthesized and not real voices, no instruments, commercial. NO TALENT = NO MUSIC
I think that the whole thing is a great way to get headlines for the tour announcement. Gene is a savy business genius. He knows that announcing just another summer KISS tour would not be of much interest except to fans but add the comments and you get headlines. I happen to agree with Gene and Paul's general comments. I'm sick to death of the pre-packaged-pre-recorded-no musical talent performers that can't perform live. I persoanlly don't want to pay the big ticket prices to watch a performer dance around and lip sync their recordings. It doesn't matter who it is, if they don't play an instrument, write the songs or sing live what on earth are you paying for. Maybe the thrill is sitting in the (still expensive) nose bleed seats and watching the large video screens or just the "I'm hipper than you" ability to say you were at the show. Say what you want about KISS,the bottom line is they write their own stuff, sing and play their instruments live and put on the greatest all live show that you will ever see. I tell everyone that even if you hate their their music, go to a KISS show and you will have will experience the greatest concert you have ever seen. Go see most of the others and you get to hear their CD played over a big sound system being lip synced and a bunch of dancers. To each his own. I like "live".
you guys who think kiss is bad music you have no taste i don't even like rock and roll i listen to straight rap! but if u have any class ull learn that music is beautiful in any form.
"Yeah.. that's why they still pack stadiums and have loyal fans for decades, the schtick"
Well, actually it is. I am a Kiss fan. But it has always been about the schtick. People did not know who kiss was because of their music, it was because of the show. Maybe the greatest show in Rock history, but it was still about the show. They are all average musicians, with average at best voices, and average rock songs. They are huge because of the makeup, costumes, and theatrics.
You have a chance to get tickets for the 'Tour' or tickets to Rihanna....who ya going to go see ????....
Kiss has been big for almost 40 years and will be for years to come. Rhianna will be forgotten by the start of the next decade.
Anyone with a MacBook can make an album today.
diarrhianna is awful. She sounds like a goat ramming a yodeller in the balls. Ellah Ellah Ellah.....
Comment of the day!!
I'm not a fan of Kiss and whether you like their music or not, at least they have a "Schtick" and they do actually sing and play their own music. I don't see what Rhianna can do. When I have seen her on stage, she looks awkward, she can't sing or dance and she wears hideous outfits. Katy Perry can sing okay... I don't like her music, but she can sing.
WAKE UP KIDS!
My theory about today's horrible music...Its geared towards the youth, who are too inexperienced an oblivious to recognize the worthless cr@p they are filling their heads with. But they are the ones buying the tickets and the cd's. One day they will realize how much money and time they wasted on these talentless thieves. If Rihanna, Spears, Lopez, Perry, etc is music, then Reality TV is actually REAL...(also geared towards pups.)
HE IS 100% on point....Rhiannas music is 100% plastic/Cardboard studio produced music.
You cant compare it to music from the 70s.80's...but thats what we have today.
Oh please, old people always try to rag on the young talent. Its time to hang up the wig pops, your time of relevance is over. Rhianna can sing and dance and puts on a real show where these old creeps just limp around the stage in those stupid oversized boots.
To each his own, Gene. Some people like scantily dressed ladies prancing around lip-synching. Others like pyrotechnics and middle aged balding men prancing around in makeup.
Gosh Why is Kiss trying to BE RELEVANT again by demeaning Rihanna's sucess. I like her music. I chose to buy iyt and listen because I like her music. You will not catch me buying a kiss record especially after this comment!
KISS suck just as much as anyone else. No one would even be talking about their tour had they not dissed Rihanna.
She is awesome. GS GFY.
Calm down sheesh. It is all a marketing ploy. They have to create a buzz so their 'fans' will buy tickets. Either band by itself probably could not support a tour. Seems Gene learned a bit doing Celeb Apprentice. Their fans wouldn't give a hoot about Rihanna or any of what get's played on current pop radio. They are preaching to the choir to sell tickets.
Kiss and Motley Crue don't need much hype to sell tickets. Their music is real and not artificial. It's a shame that my daughter's generation is growing up to watch concerts that lip sync.
Is it just me or the the pop music in america now just recycled euro trsh techno from the 90s? Im 29 and pop music has never been my favorite, but lately, who can stand to even listen to a bunch of robot no talent a$$ clowns.
Rihanna Do Ya Thang Remix Interworld
so she couldnt come up with a new song? She had to remix one she just put out? Thanks for extrapolating on Genes point.
I love it Gene Simmons and Paul Stanley telling it the way it is! Hey if can't take the truth..then get out of the game. The public wants people who can actually perform and sing. Rihannia music sucks...I saw her on the music awards..that was extremely painful to watch. She can't perform either.
rihanna has a great voice, but she no vocal range at all. She rarely strays out of one octave and never leaves a two octave range. This is basically the equivalent of talking with good tone. i.e. Kesha with good tone.
KISS and Motley Crue are both pretty much talentless as well. Of Course KISS has sold 200 million albums. They've produced somewhere around 17 thousand different CD's all consisting of a bunch of filler and maybe 2 hits that anyone actually remembers anymore. Motley Crue is just kinda there at this point. If Tommy Lee hadn't given Pam Anderson Hep C, nobody would even remember who they are.
Oh please its all studio..she sucks!
"rihanna has a great voice, but she no vocal range at all"
What? She has a terrible voice. She is a nasally overproduced cutesy pop ska nk. How can a one octave voice that is consistently tuned be a "great voice". You said it yourself, she can't clear two octaves. She sucks.
im having a good time reading all the comments. KISS or Rhianna I dont like. However, both are pretty famous, because we all have different taste of music. That's all. Rhianna and Gene cannot sing, but they both know how to use their hidden talents very well.
They both suck.
I like musicians that play instruments. Not the crap that is popular today, minus foo fighters. KISS is all show, but they are real.
Good for GSD for speaking up about the rampant fakery that's taking over popular music. It's gotten to the point where a music producer can a package anybody and make a bundle. Taylor Swift cannot sing on- key. No problem...just run it through autotune. Rihanna's music is catchy, but you can barely separate the voice from the synthesizer. There's a reason for that.
YEAH! KISS and Mötley Crüe for the WIN!!!
@michelle: I second that. You must be young dumb and deaf. Rihanna = garbage.
would you like some one call u garbage , maybe ur lying with garbage every night so everything around you seems like garbage your a moron to diss women even if u dont like her a gentle man dont do that and this is female stuff are u a sissy..... you and every other men who keep blabing there mouth..
would you like some one call u garbage , maybe ur lying with garbage every night so everything around you seems like garbage your a moron to diss women even if u dont like her a gentle man dont do that and this is female stuff are u a ..... you and every other men who keep blabing there mouth..
Of all the new female talent that has popped over the past 10 years or so, only a FEW are actually talented, and by that I mean write most of their OWN music and actually PLAY instruments, Joss Stone, Colby Calliet, and a few others come to mind. Rihanna, and Katy Perry and the like, ALL sound the same. Too electronic, and too mechanical. Get out there with NOTHING, and sing, then lets hear what you sound like.
i guess they are running out of money, so its time to tour again. also nice jab at rihanna at least you know how to get your names in the paper, attack some one relevant to the times.
Hahahaha.....These old hacks are delusional to think "these bands lasted" and Gene Simmons is a complete sellout. The music sucks, the bands suck, this "event" will suck.
Old rock n rollers dissing someone for attention and the singing is not all that great i think a cat can meow better than kiss can sing or scream
Oh my, look how well that worked... they needed to promote their tour so, you say a few derogatory words about some other "artists" and you get a write up on CNN's website where millions of people visit (or, at the least, hundreds of thousands). And, best of all, they can save money on advertising their stupid little tour!!!! Gene and the guys are "geniuses"; or, more like idiot savants!!
The Tour, brought to you be Metamucil and Depends Undergarments. These guys are too old to rock.
So tell me how many of these concerts have you attended?
Like these guys or not, they're speaking the absolute truth....
BOUT TIME SOMEBODY SAID IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE GIRL CAN"T SING!!!!!!!! She's on tv cause she dresses in skimpy outfits and gets beat up by another no talent bum!!!!!! By the way Gene and Paul are not great singers either. But they are great entertainers!!
if your disussing the fact that rihanna cant sing how does her beating up come into play ,you know what u guys problem u make other ppl business ur business now you all need to get off riri back cause ur broke ass will never be rich like her and dont be hating because ur body is not reveiling enough to wear skimpy clothes thats there business wat they wanna wear.......haters
Kiss & motley crue are two of the biggest bands in the world & I don't care what you say about rhianna (i kind of agree with you) but in rock or in music in general the only shows that've been recognized as an event, have been Queen concerts. Sorry kiss & motley but you guys together aren't QUEEN.
Queen had the best shows AND Great music. Freddie and the band did sing, except for the choir chant in Bohemian Rhapsody. They had to leave the stage so as not to imply they were sing that part of the song. Brian May is a great guitarist.
Did anybody else have the KISS comic book printed with blood from all the band members? There was a photo in it of Paul, Gene, Ace, and Peter standing with their bleeding arms over an ink vat. Obviously, this was pre-AIDS...those things are probably classified as biohazards now.
I've never been a huge KISS fan, but I think they are generally taking shots at the music industry for focusing on entertainers rather than actual musicians. Rihanna (and those like her) is more of an entertainer. She has a decent voice, but there isn't much artistic or musical value there. I get where they are coming from though. We live in an era where anyone with a halfway decent voice can sing into auto-tune and turn into an overnight sensation, and sadly it's driven by a lack of demand for quality music. There are still many great bands around (better than KISS, that's for sure), but they aren't marketed as heavily because the largest profit margins come from marketing to teenagers who are only interested in catchy versus and generally have low standards for good music/art.
I liked KISS a lot in 6th grade...since then, not so much.
Some other their songs are fine, especially early stuff..."Strutter", "Got To Choose", a few others. They never really ventured into hard rock, they're mostly pretty mild with a very thin sound.
Motley Crue and Rihanna are pretty lame, too...her voice is mostly effects and production.
KISS sucks, but Rihanna needs to put the auto-tuner down. Maybe Chris Brown should knock some sense into her. Oh wait, he's auto-tuned too. Nevermind.
Rhianna does nothing but sing the same line over and over, and THEN... refuses to actually sing live anywhere... same with GaGa,, Beyonce, Boobney Spears, Madonna and the other endless line of music that sucks the life out of you. It's not just pop-crap... Nickelback is just as bad. I believe what the guys from KISS were saying is that... their music is live... where as most music nowadays is just computerized crap. Who knows what any of these people actually sound like OR if they are even any good. Beyonce can't even manage to admit to a fake pregnancy... let alone her crap music.
Why are you so angry?Go jack off dude.
Beyonce sings live and she was pregnant. You're pathetic and grasping at straws.
Wow.....I read these comments, and instead of reading WHAT they say, I am reading how they are written. Some of these people should go back to school to learn how to write.
Rianna has a terrible voice. She's got some good music, but no real vocal talent, just like Madonna, Katy Perry, Britney Spears and DEFINITELY Jennifer Lopez. They are entertainers. They're good at entertaining, but not singing. And whoever threw Maria Carey into that mix – really? Are you freakin tone deaf? Many people may not like Mariah Carey, but you cannot question her singing, because she truly has talent. I'm not a huge fan of kiss, but I like them.
@michelle: u so stoopid u don' know nuthin' biotch!
I guess the truth hurts.
Spoken by a true hood rat. Go back to school and learn to right english.
To "PMN", Thank you for the good laugh!! I think YOU need to go back to school you 'tard. Even my 8-year-old knows how to spell the word "write"!!
What a couple of giant T U R D S. Can't they just announce they're going on tour and it will rock, blah, blah, blah, without insulting anyone else? Honestly, geriatrics are just downright ornery!
"Leave that to Rihanna-Schmianna and everybody else whose name ends with an 'a.'"
Yeah, I guess that rank amateur Carlos Santana really has no talent.
What do you have against people whose names end with a?I guess some people have to find any reason to hate.Bye the way your name sucks.
I would put Rhianna against any of the guys in KISS or Motley Crue in a sing-off any day.
To Michelle who said she'd put Rihanna in a sing off against Kiss or Motley Crue: at least with either band what you hear is more or less what you get. Rihanna lip synchs her live shows (just ask anyone who's actually done set-up at one of her gigs), because she can't keep her voice in tune without the tools she uses in the studio to adjust her pitch. I'd prefer she just bring what she honestly has even if it's not perfect, but what you're getting–as with so many other artists–is a pretense rather than an honest show of their true level of talent.
Rhianna $ux, no doubt. Kiss can rock better than most. still not my favorite. but Rhianna still $ux the big one.
Pop is pop. KISS is no better than Lady Gaga. Real rock and roll is music, pop is just a strong beat with a highly suggestive stage show.
Gene cold never sing worth squat and never even mastered the relatively simple bass.
But, he still got Shannon Tweed...that and a long rock career basically on chutzpah.
Since I don't follow their type of music, I don't personally know if they can sing or not. What I do know is that Gene Simmons is a first class jerk. I have seen him on his so-called reality show. I still think that his supposed break-up was a publicity stunt.
I Love Gene Simmons. He and his band play for real. Not like some of the other fake bull crap out there.... I have known of the band KISS for a long time now. THAT'S REAL ROCK AND ROLL. For those of you making comments no one knows of him you must be young. Get over it!! LOVE YOU GENE AND SHANNON.
Love KISS. First concert I ever went to back in '75. Doesn't excuse them acting nasty and insulting other singers. Not cool. Not cool at all.
Could the author please explain to me how stating that some 'artists' lip-synch, and use dance and props to hide the fact that their 'music' sucks is politically incorrect? Rhianna might be a decent singer... But she is cookie-cutter. And if you don't understand what that means, reader, then you shouldn't be arguing for her. The music industry is in a lot of trouble right now, thanks to below-average crap like Rhianna that people actually believe is amazing. All of you Rhianna and Chris Brown, Eminem and Dre fans- all of you who like Rap and Hip-Hop and modern R&B, YOU are responsible for the end of good music. I just think it's funny how you think all this crap is so brilliant. :-)
isn't Gene Simmons like a 100 and he still dresses like a clown........every one at his concert will probably being wearing hearing aides so it does not really matter if he's yelling at you or not, oh i meant singing.
Gene Simmons you should change your name back to Chaim Weitz maybe you would get a younger audience.
Mike Mike Mike.......you obviously have no clue what you are talking about. Although at 42 some may consider me "old", I can tell you almost half of their attendees are the 18-24 year olds. I have attended two of their concerts and can say they stadiums are crawling with the younger kids. Look, listen and learn that sometimes old does not mean out of date.
It's about being entertained! You go to a KISS show, a Garth Brooks show, Motley Crue...etc, it's a fantastic show. You leave giddy, excited, is their the music the best,probably not, but you get your money's worth. It's something you'll remember for a long time!
Entertained at a Garth Brooks show? I doubt it.
I'm sure there's a joke in there about pots and kettles somewhere... I mean, he's right her, but KISS isn't really any better.
right *about* her ffs
Gene is dead on correct. Can't wait for the show!
he isn't dead from drugs yet?
Who are you even talking about? If you are talking about Gene Simmons, it shows what a complete idiot you are. He does not do drugs.
To "Erin Andrews Perky Breasts", You obviously don't know much about Gene Simmons. On his show "Gene Simmons Family Jewels", he has made it very clear that he has NEVER done drugs, and his first taste of alcohol was during his recent wedding reception.
Gene is on it.. Rihanna does suck and belongs to the Chris Brown 6 yr old kiddie listeners. She cant sing and cant play the first instrument if she had to!! She isnt even from the US, came from Barbados at age 16. She only became famous after the record company stole Soft Cells "Tainted Love" sample for her SOS hit. The sample was the only great part of the stupid SOS song. She needs to go and sing Happy Birthday to her lover Chris Brown some more.
"She isn't even from the U.S" Who cares where she's from. Idiot
LOOK... KISS is from the 60's & 70's Rock & Roll... Rihanna is 2000 & Pop R&B ... two different worlds... Let them stay there and WHOEVER enjoy there music is fine... QUIT judging people for who/what they like...
EVERYBODY LIKES WHO THEY LIKE.... WHO ARE YOU TO DETERMINE WHAT THAT SHOULD BE??? AND HOW WOULD YOU LIKE IT IF SOMEONE DID IT TO YOU??? STFU
Kiss sucks, always has, always will. Can't get into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame and never will.
Inconsequential comment, go back to your fake BS
Absolutely the TRUTH !!
KISS brings it !
Rock 'n roll like it SHOULD be!!
KISS RULES :)
So rihanna lady gaga madonna christina agulara ect all suck but beyonce jennifer lopez mariah carey ect doesnt ? lol. there are alot of singers with the last letter a... haters... they just failed at life... super tragedy
Are you kidding? Christina Aguilera sings her ass off. She's a very talented lady!
Mariah Carey and Christina A are very talented and can sing live. Get it together.
I tryed to insert my foot in my mouth after I said that, but my tounge got in the way!
Kiss has a point. You don't have to be musically talented today to be a star. But... for those that include Lady Gaga in the non talented group have no clue what they are talking about. She can actually sing very well. You might not like her costumes and antics but she is much more talented than any other female pop performer in a long time and she can actually play an instrument, what a concept.
lady gaga is a mediocre talent at best (her piano playing is pretty eh). her image is what makes her so popular, but she still has more more talent than these hacks.
Have to agree with some others, especially Rob. For those that put Lady Gaga in the group of non-talented people, you are terribly wrong. As for KISS, even Gene Simmons says that they are not the most talented band (look him up in wikipedia). Their primary focus has always been to ENTERTAIN and that is what they do better than probably any band has ever done. Never been to a KISS concert and will never go to one, but they deserve credit for being highly entertaining and giving people a LIVE, real show – including not-perfece vocals! That's better than can be said about most of the others out there.
Hmmm Gene you sound a little Jon"Hammish",dudes lay off the women please.
include on the list Madonna, Brittney Spears, Katy Perry, Justin Bieber etc.. they all CANNOT sing live. They tried but OUT OF TUNE!
But they make great puppets / slaves to their masters lala.
people normally only say ppl cant sing because they are used to perfection on records nowadays ... normally....there are few that sound terrible :P
Kim, Unfortunately, this is the worst era in the history of music. Everything is fake, remade, recycled, autotuned, dubbed over and over, over-rated, lip synched, click tracked, bad "singers", bad music. It's a sad time for the music industry because NOTHING is genuine and can last longer than 5 years anymore, absolutely nothing. Why, because no-one has the blood, guts, and REAL glory to actually handle what it means to be a singer, performer, "rock star" anymore. That is, no one new that we've been exposed to yet. Very sad.
Rihanna i hate you :@
You shouldn't hate Rihanna just because she is a Luciferian.
Hiyaaa rihanna love you <3
I see these "boys" are as arrogant as they were 30 years ago. Some things never change.
Yep. That's who they are. They've had a ton of hits between them and they've provided great, high energy entertainment for decades, so of course they are goign to have egos.
30 years of awesomness, never changes.
This would make sense if they used the right artists name....Rihanna had a live band and sang live on tour, so what the hell.....get ur facts right guys please. much respect!
LOL that was his point her "live" tour was her dancing (choreographed) and lip syncing to her album. Now realize the fact that the album has been cleaned up to make her sound far better than she does. Kiss' maybe downright awful at times but at least you know they are truely live.
Thank u Kim- She does have a great voice. But , to each his own. I just wish ppl would climb down off their high horse of "what I like is the only good thing" . Come off it ppl.
Actually I worked the show set up in Toronto for Rhianna, she lip synced the entire show.
Agreed. Kiss and Lady Gaga are all about stupid makeup and little talent. I'm not a Rihanna fan, but for him to say that is down right wrong.
Are you serious? Kiss is a true ROCK band. So many people are used to overly-polished, overly-mastered music to appreciate raw Rock n' Roll. And he's not really dissing Rihanna, he's dissing her shows as artificial (because they're lip-sync/dance shows, not playing instruments and singing shows.)
Love her or hate her, Gaga is talented. Too much makeup? Outlandish costumes? Overdone productions? Yes, yes and yes. But to say she has "little talent" just makes you look like the deaf, clueless moron that you are.
Wrong? What's WRONG is for an entertainer to get on stage and LIP SYNC, you putz! Or should I say SHEEP?
True Rihanna cant sing, but neither can Kiss, and their music sucks. The are all about the makeup and the schtick rather than the music.
This is out of your league... please go back to your BS
As of 2007 they have sold 200 million albums worldwide.....probably should pay attention to that piece
THAT must be why they've been filling stadiums for 40 years...because they can't sing. Thanks for clearing that up for us.
If it weren't for the crazy outfits & makeup, no one would know who Gene Simmons was; KISS was always an overrated garage band.
cnnlicksit....you said it! Neither one of them has any real talent.
That's because you don't know the their music or have listened to it. You don't know what real music is chump!
Yeah.. that's why they still pack stadiums and have loyal fans for decades, the schtick.
You have obviously NEVER been to a Kiss convert in your life.
They be about the schtick, but the produce an awesome stage show. (Even at age 60+)
Definitely get your money's worth at a Kiss concert
RIhanna Do Ya Thang Remix
I'd shoot myself in the head if Rhianna's live show garnered 1/10th of the acclaim Kiss' tours have. They're both mediocre acts as far as singing, but at least one group knows how to write a song.
You clearly know nothing about KISS.
No one denies that they are about a spectacle, and Im a kiss fan. The point is, that weather you like them or not, they perform live. Rhianna does not.
Kiss has sold no where near 200 million albums. They've sold barely over 100 million as of 2012. Nice try...
Thanks YOU. They do suck
Every now and then when I'm looking for new "old music", I go to iTunes to sample KISS to try to figure out whether they still suQQ to me. Out of 10,000 plus songs in my library, still no KISS...got a few Rihanna's though. Gene Simmons is the biggest old d-bag in entertainment today. Hands down. He gives 70 year olds everywhere a bad name.
What are you talking about? I would agree with you about Gene Simmons' singing voice (e.g. the song Dr. Love), but Paul Stanley sings most of their songs and used to be able to sing great back in the 80s. You apparently haven't heard much of their music. Their most well-known song (Rock N Roll All Night) is a very poor example of Paul Stanley's voice.
I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU SAID THAT ABOUT KISS!!! THEY....ya...our right...they $ukk.
I'll bet you were born 1980 or later.
I don't think it was always just about the shtick for KISS. For an idea of what the band was in their prime–what I consider to be the "real" KISS, with Ace Freehley–check out some of the 1975 concert videos on youtube. That will give you an idea of what they were back then, and why they made it on the basis of their live shows before they had the budget or the glitz. They put out some good music back then, IMO.
I totally agree. These clowns in the make-up call themselves musicians. Its pathatic. They are a joke.
In reply to "sybaris", I was born in 1968, smarta$$. I'm 44 years old, and I grew up listening to KISS. My favorite KISS songs are from the early to late 80s.
You seriously think ANYONE will remember who Riannian (whatever her name is) 20, 30 years from now?
THAT'LL only happen if her boyfriend Chris beats her to death!!
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