Dutch fashion magazine Jackie is facing outcry after publishing an article in which it refers to pop star Rihanna as the ultimate "n****b****."
As posted on Parlourmagazine.com, the magazine's piece focuses on Rihanna's style, but uses the aforementioned language to describe the singer.
The responses poured in swiftly enough that according to Parlour magazine, the editor of Jackie, Eva Hoeke, issued a statement of apology on the publication's Facebook page, saying that "the author meant no harm" and that the headline using the words was meant to be "a joke."
Update, 12/21: According to the BBC, Hoeke has since resigned. In a press release, as posted in full on Parlour magazine's website, Hoeke explains that her initial reaction, "in which [she] indicated that it was a joke, has been a complete misrepresentation" of what she and the article's author meant. The statement adds that Rihanna will be invited to share her view on the piece in question in an upcoming issue.
Previously, Hoeke said in her statement of apology that "this should have never happened." She goes on to say that there wasn't a racist motive behind the words, and that they were "stupid" rather than malicious.
"[It was] naive...to think that this was an acceptable form of slang - you hear it all the time on TV and radio then your idea of what is normal apparently shifts - but it was especially misguided; there was no malice behind it," Hoeke said.
Rihanna, meanwhile, has had her own words of response for the piece. The 23-year-old wrote on Twitter to the magazine's editor:
"I hope u can read english, because your magazine is a poor representation of the evolution of human rights! I find you disrespectful, and rather desperate!! You ran out of legit, civilized information to print! There are 1000's of Dutch girls who would love to be recognized for their contributions to your country, you could have given them an article. Instead, u paid to print one degrading an entire race! That's your contribution to this world! To encourage segregation, to mislead the future leaders to act in the past! You put two words together, with the intent of abasement, that made no sense..."N**** B****"?!....Well with all respect, on behalf of my race, here are my two words for you...F*** YOU!!!"
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People: It is never okay to make "jokes" about race or woman-hating! I honestly cannot stand Rihanna. But making racist/misogynistic jokes is never, ever, ever okay. It doesn't matter that she herself uses this language; the magazine should not say this about her or any other female public figure. And that "joke" excuse is only a pathetic cover story after the fact, for exceptionally bad behavior...we all know that.
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Rihanna, if you don't want others to call you the same thing that rolls off your own tongue then stops saying it. You are clearly a hypocrite!!!!
Her response was low in intelligence and she only cemented what they thought of her in the first place.
Someone like Oprah would have shined in her response.
@on behalf of my race....not because she is of different backgrounds does not mean she cannot claim the race she did her own. Yes, as long as she has a percentage of that race, newsflash, yes she can. I suspect your race would have it no other way in any case! Think much?
It's a shame this woman had to resign as a result of n^^^^^^ b^^^^ rihanna
@Dave and other misguided bigots, I'm getting ready to teach you all something. ....it's easy. Go to either the Government website or the FBI site and research this... Which race has the highest Welfare population, AIDS/HIV rates, drop out rates, numbers in prison, teen pregnancy rates, ..and I could go on. Ready for the answer: THE WHITE RACE!" Shocked? dont be. Youre too damned busy believing the media instead of getting yourself informed with the truth. Oh yeah, dont start in with the statistical crap either, I AM TALKING HARD NUMBERS! We're so ready to believe the misguiding lies being advertised in magazines, and TV, (you know... "That our blond hair and blue eyes are what makes us superior, when in fact we are the race that is also knee deep at the bottom." Thats right boneheads I'm white as well but I am, at least, trying to help the real minority (low income/poor whites) stand up. You think I'm lying? Try visiting the poor in West Virginia, Alabama, MS, Louisiana, Texas, OK, etc, etc ....and what are you doing huh? ...freakin creep.
@Dave. Hey misguided bigot, I'm getting ready to teach you something. it's easy. Go to either the Government website or the FBI site and research this... Which race has the highest Welfare population, AIDS/HIV rates, drop out rates, numbers in prison, teen pregnancy rates, ..and I could go on. Ready for the answer: THE WHITE RACE!" Shocked? dont be. Youre too damned busy believing the media instead of getting yourself informed with the truth. Oh yeah, dont start in with the statistical crap either, I AM TALKING HARD NUMBERS! We believed whats being advertised, that our blond hair and blue eyes are at the top, when in fact we are also knee deep at the bottom. Thats right bonehead I'm white as well but I am, at least, trying to help the real minority (low income/poor whites) stand up. What are you doing huh? ...freakin creep.
Yeah, the response was as juvenile as the Dutch article. I understand her anger but she could have set a better example.
Boy the dutch are dumb. Don't they no that noone uses the "N" word except black people, (and even they shouldn't)? Then, do they really think anyone would consider it a joke? Then, do they know it's better to have Muslims mad at you rather than a n*****b****, (I'm not referring to Rihanna)? Don't they know it's better to have anyone else mad at you other than Rihanna, or any woman?
Don't Rap artists use this kind of language all the time?
So why does she not hold her contemporaries to such a standard? Does she not have anything to say to everyone else around her and her profession who use such language on basicly every album track? Whats good for the goose.... is good for the gander. Its very, very, likely her and her personal friends use such language or at least have in the past. I'm so sick of hearing black people use this language that it makes me feel a whole lot less concerned when they happen to run into someone saying it. It appears your not on the OK list to say these words sir.... it appears you are indeed a racist. Get outta here!
instead of handling the insult with grace, you handled it with an offensive insult of your own. Rihanna, your response demonstrates an absolute LACK of class!
Amazing, howthe bigoted armchair ethnologist came out of the woodwork claiming that this is normal type of speech within the black community. This is blatantly false.
You can cite as many hip hop & gangsta rap references and anecdotal accounts as you want, this is NOT a pervasive term in the vast majority of black households or communities. You're not fooling anyone by pretending you're an expert in this subject matter.
seriously Let's be fair – Affrican-Americans (AAs) have it tough. AAs often come from broken homes - not because their white parents run off - AAs suffer high drug abuse rates -- not b/c white people are shoving drugs down their throats. AAs are more likely to die from violent crime and the perpetrators are likey to be AAs
It is about time that African Americans got together and did something about the African Americans that are oppressing them
Let's be fair – Affrican-Americans (AAs) have it tough. AAs often come from broken homes - not because their white parents run off - AAs suffer high drug abuse rates -- not b/c white people are shoving drugs down their throats. AAs are more likely to die from violent crime and the perpetrators are likey to be AAs
re-post : @Dave. Hey misguided bigot, I'm getting ready to teach you something. it's easy. Go to either the Government website or the FBI site and research this... Which race has the highest Welfare population, AIDS/HIV rates, drop out rates, numbers in prison, teen pregnancy rates, ..and I could go on. Ready for the answer: THE WHITE RACE!" Shocked? dont be. Youre too damned busy believing the media instead of getting yourself informed with the truth. Oh yeah, dont start in with the statistical crap either, I AM TALKING HARD NUMBERS! We believed whats being advertised, that our blond hair and blue eyes are at the top, when in fact we are also knee deep at the bottom. Thats right bonehead I'm white as well but I am, at least, trying to help the real minority (low income/poor whites) stand up. What are you doing huh? ...freakin creep.
Nice comment Rhianna you sound like a N** B**
Wow. It boggles my mind to think some people posting here think it's actually OK for someone to call another person a N**** B****, and your only justification is "she's not that talented." geesh.
Correction: Only some Black Amercians use that term amongst themselves!. OK stop generalizing black people into one country!. Those terms are not acceptable in most parts of Africa!
IN most parts of Africa rape is acceptable - Slavery was a horrible thing but the ancestors of slaves are a thousand times better off than the ancestors of those who never left AFrica
Everyone knows the N-word is only acceptable when used as a lyric in a number of Rihanna's different songs. Stupid racist Dutch b!tches.
Wow, so a singer who freely and enthusiastically uses that very same word in her music, is all of a sudden offended by it? She's now all of a sudden standing up for her race because she's sick of being mistreated? All of a sudden these people that used it have idolized segregation?
Oh! And let's not forget the fact that Rihanna was so eloquent in her little post (bet she uses the word "abasement" every day). Here's a hint, the very same word she's appalled at is probably used in her everyday vocabulary much more than "abasement." In the end, it really captures just how low brow she is. "F*** YOU!!!" Great response Rihanna! You really showed them. Now hurry on and scurry back to that hole of yours. It looks like your 15 minutes of fame are going to be up sooner or later.
It's so funny to see some of the replies on here..You can just tell the monikers that are clutching their white hoods and robes as they type .....LMAO
she looks like an alien
GO RIHANNA! but you know, they all claim that racism don't exist no more. let me tell you as a Hoosier... Indiana still has pockets of kkk (no caps on purpose) and they are allowed to hold their funky rallies. one even came into my place of work and refused to have a n... take a blood sample from him. when those of you who say we are just crying racism all the time say that.. think of stories like this!
It is not surprising that Western Europe is racist. This pattern repeats itself with the racial slur during a soccer game made to an African player on Manchester United. It's also what led to the rioting in London this year. Police there were detaining Africans for no reason because they are racist. In this country it is the same with the Republicans and Tea Bigots. We have a problem if people aren't white. We are jealous if they're any other skin tone and holding power or fame. They have this view that God or Jesus or whoever the higher power is this white person with the brown flowing hair. It will never change until more whites and blacks mate and have kids of their own. I think it's great that latins will make up the majority of U.S. population in years to come.
Rihanna, you rock.
I do love Rihanna's voice. One of the few talents in a rap dominated music industry. However, if the black community continues to condone other black musicians speaking in this kind of language, then they should not be offended when other publications mock the verbiage. By condone, I mean not speaking out against it or creating some kind of movement or speak to eliminate it. Not doing so is the same thing as giving it the acceptance nod. I do agree that its nasty and hateful language, but if the black community wants to get rid of it, then they need to start at the very foundation of black musicians.
How do you know thst the "black community" doesn't? How do you know that some don't step up to the plate and denounce the use of that word. I'm sure you're heard where different celebrities have refused to ever use it again. They can no more force some to stop using the word....no more than you can stop the KKK from using it. When is the last time you talked to them?
By these comments maybe you guys are descendants of animals. No one is and no one deserves to be called that. There is nothing that this young lady has done to deserve so much disrespect. I am not a fan of rap music and I fault a lot hip-hop music for crapt like this. But don't believe that all black people like using that word. As a matter of fact most black people are not the ones who buys that offensive music. Please get your facts straight.
Her reply does not make her appear either very educated or literate or intelligent. It does little to dispel the magazine editor's impression of her. That being said, I was raised to believe the 'n' word is offensive and still believe it is; no matter how many black artists use it to give themselves an air of 'street' credibility.
I'd hit it....
And she would let you. Apparently she LOVES getting hit.
However, she'll cry and look for sympathy later. Especially if her last single doesn't sell well.
Racism is alive and kicking in 2011. I guess the couldn't think of anything better to print. Well let's boycott them.
As if you've ever read that magazine. Until today, who's ever heard of it except the Dutch?
In my honest opinion....the magazine got it right,
Any woman who still communicates with her abuser deserves what she gets......
Jealous much, racist nancy? Move on!
Now Nancy... Can you honestly say you put much effort or thought into your post. Regardless of what you feel about Rihanna, this language offends people that have nothing to do with Rihanna, and not just black people. And please, in your simple mind, don't retreat to the classic response that ALL black people use this word anyway. This is not true. The magazine is out of line and so are you.
As strange as it must seem to most Americans, be they black or white, things like that truly are acceptable slang in countries like those. Anyone remember when that actor wore blackface on the Australian TV program a few months back? Other countries aren't as race oriented as we here in America. Not in any way am I saying it was right to say those things, but I think Americans must try to be a little more understanding of other cultures.
I can understand Ri responding to the article, but her trashy language response was no better than the published insults.
Clearly some of you white people hate yourselves. You all are so jealous. All this for RiRi? The girls want to be her and the boys want to F–k her. Well, I must say that I don't consider RiRi a talent. But she is a Looker.
Go eat another pork chop.
So the mass of melanin lacking dregs are all suggesting that because rappers and uneducated fools use such disparaging remarks,Rihanna is making much ado about nothing. And then Mrs Lilly White says,"Duh it was a joke and I had no idea that the word was so negative." And to all of you I say, I wish that there was some kind of vaccination that could rid the world of the plague that is you. You animals have broken societies and cultures in every country where you have placed your inbred feet and the world would certainly be better off without you.
Well said Dan Spenster....Her response was not a class act.
Rihanna has been famously photographed wearing a necklace consisting of one word (begins with a C and ends with a T) that is probably the word more women find the most offensive of any word used to put down women. Yet, Rihanna, who uses the N word very freely is all up in arms over NB...a description she justly deserves. C'mon, folks, black and white, Rihanna is a beautiful (in and odd sort of way) woman who owes her fame and fortune to AutoTune and a never-ending display of her body. The worst part of this story is that a working woman has lost her job of eight years because she called a NB a NB.
I'm offended! Black rappers say that and much worse, but once a white person tries it, it becomes a big deal! Blasphemy! Write a letter like that to Fifty Cents or Little Wayne! Damn it feels good to be a WASP.
This is obviously a case of a group of foreigners trying a little too hard to have American street cred. Americans are so hypocritical! In many contexts those two "slurs" are considered badges of honor among their group members. The magazine was trying too hard to be ghetto American and didn't understand the "rules" behind use of the words. This probably says more about American idiocy than about the Dutch who probably don't have all the same double standards and ridiculous rules about who can use a word in what context.
Not for nothing, but I agree with everyone using the "n word" in songs, movies and on tv....then we cry racism when someone actually uses it in some form of publication. I'm not condoning slurs at all, I think they're all ridiculous and ignorant. But what is this, do as I say not as I do? And as for Rihanna...she's the biggest hypocrit of them all. She cried about being smacked up by her boyfriend yet says she likes S&M. Soooooo....perhaps she wanted to get hit by Chris Brown?
they called a Gorilla a Gorilla
first of all everytime a white person say sometime about ablack person you white people always thnk of way to make it right you are no better than any other race get over yourself and just believe that putting the white race first is so over god made us all and we are make the same just different colors . I personaly wouldn't have one of you. You have just as much drama as black famous people is just f-up in the head get rid of all of them black and white.
Some of you white cave folk get brave behind a computer monitor and keyboard. If you did grow some real balls and as my man X said "say it to our faces" you'd be walking around looking like your cousin brothers in West Virginia, missing lots of teeth. But it is entertaining reading your racist comments. It just proves that the white sheets are now the internet.
What you wrote is quite offensive and racist. You're not helping the black cause by spouting such hatred and vitriol.
And another thing, to say that people around the world dont realize that the N-word is bad is ridiculous. Black people are the most idolized and imitated people in the world. One of the basic things that everyone knows is that we do not appreciate whites saying that to us. There are certain words that Italians, Irish, Jews and many other races say to each other that would have a completely different meaning if i said it. Im smart enought to know that i cant walk up to an Italian and say certain things. And I definetly wouldnt say: Well you say it why cant I?
For all of the white people on here that feel they need to say the N-word go right ahead. But I guarantee you wont say it to my face or any other black persons face. As many have said before why do you want to say it anyway?? Regardless you will continue your coward ways saying the word behind closed doors. If you were invited to the white house would you go up to the president and say: What's up my n***a! Then get mad and blame hip-hop if someone says that was inappropriate? A lot of you white people claim to be the smartest but you still dont even understand the most basic things.
Amen to that........ most blacks don't like the word and most won't say it, and given that its out there nothing people can do, any decent person with an i.q knows not to use that word, only mad white people on here because they can't use it freely.
Well, she certainly had the opportunity to prove that she was more, but she missed her chance, and has shown that that's pretty much what she is. Can't blame the Dutch so much for using the same language that many pop stars in America use on a daily basis.
If you don't like that word being used, miss, I suggest you talk to your loudmouth, disrespectful colleagues and tell THEM not to use that language. Until it changes on the scene of popular culture, there is absolutely no way to expect anyone else to change it.
The sad part is is that America caused this. Americans who have visited Europe understand that this word is treated casually in most parts. I've sat in a hotel lobby and listened to jokes by white guys with black guys hanging around while they say that word, and nobody has a problem and everyone's laughing and having a good time.
It is only Americans who allow a word to affect them as much as they do. It is only Americans who ban anyone but their own kind to make fun of them. Blacks can make fun of blacks. Whites can make fun of whites. Purples can make fun of purples. But if you try to go outside of your race, then you are a racist.
Chapelle and his WHITE writers tried to bridge the gap. But there is only so much people with common sense can do when they are FAR outnumbered by those without it.
there are two kinds of people i can't stand. people who are intolerance of other's people's culture...and the dutch.
Everyone is missing the point...She is smoking Hot......
No word can explain what "trash" she is.
And one ignorant crude statement follows another ignorant crude statement..........
this tolerance and anti-racism is always a one way street. White people get muzzled, everyone else says what they want.
Why do white people want to say the n-word so bad? They whine whine whine about, "How come THEY get to say it?!" Why, do you care? Do you WANT to call black people n*gger? If not, the STFU whining about it. They can say it because it's about THEM- not you.
that's one nappyheaded ho
There's a fantastic song about this called "Only a ginger can call another ginger ginger"
PC gone too far.
Rihanna is looking more and more like the a bit of a moron.
Good thing she doesn't have to use her brain much.
Unfortunately it seems that the usage of the n-word will remain an unresolved issue. For me, I don't get too bogged-down on the semantics and petty justifications for its use i.e. "it's a term of endearment" or "it depends on the context". RIHANNA, DONT MAKE A BIG THING OUT OF IT!..JUST SING AND DANCE THATS ALL YOU SHOULD DO!.
"I hope u can read english..."
And I wish 'u' could spell 'You' and capitalize 'English' like it's meant to be...
Today's kids are morons.
guess the dutch had to learn the hard way it's okay for "them" to call each other and other races those derogatory terms but not for the white race to because that would be racist.
wait did Rihanna just claim that black people are a different race? what the heck are they if they aren't humans? i guess she just blew the out of Africa theory out of the water
also i have a black female dog that i call a n****b**** all the time i also call her my little Nubian princess amongst other racial slurs, but its cool cause i own her and i dont think she would be any less of a dog if she was white.... but if she was white she might stop stealing the cats food....
Rihanna, i would beat all those suckers up for you. Racism is alive and well even in america, so just keep doing what you do.
yea but does she write a tweet about every person that uses the N word? or just to people that aren't black? yup racism is still alive
Rihanna looks like a freakin' Godess..LOVE the pic...and the Rihanna ofcourse!
This is what I like about her...she doesn't take BS from anyone!
You have not had MUCH until you have had DUTCH!!
The Dutch women loved the black servicemen during WWII. However, the editor should have looked up those words before printing it. But I don't buy that! Even Eskimos in the northpole knows that N-–B-- isn't a term of endearment from another ethnicity.
I used to like some of her music. Now she is just as much a hack as all the other talentless, half naked, tone-def female singers out there. We found love in a hopeless place? I was bored with the first few words that repeated and repeated and repeated and repeated allllll throoooough the whole stinkin song. Put some clothes on and here is an idea, write something original that actually has a bridge. What I find interesting is the less talent these young girls have, the less clothes they wear. Perhaps a distraction to their lack of talent. Whatever. Anyone who can wear a necklace with C*unt on it should have a little more sense of humor.
Biracial blacks identify as black because your ancestors gave them all to the black race. It is called the "ONE DROP" rule. If a person had one drop of black blood they were considered black. So, we have blacks like Barack Obama, Mariah Carey, Shemar Moore, Paula Patton, Halle Berry, Drake, Cash Warren, Kris Humphries, ect.....Study Southern racial history.
Hey Rihanna, they just printed what they see in you. Truth hurts
I do understand how a Dutch will have a stupid mistake as to what the N word means. I immigrated in the US with no knowledge of the history and didn't realize that the N word was such a sensitive word. The black people even include it in their rap lyrics and call each other as such so from an outsider, especially a foreign person, it would look like that the N word isn't so bad.
Blacks are a mixed race. We have several races flowing through our veins. In one family we can be from very dark to very light complected. Eye color varies. Study genetics. You also may find that you have black blood in you. Just ask Johnnie Depp, Mae West, Carol Channing. Well, you'd have to channel the last two!
and Rihanna's "classy" response goes to show how the magazine was correct in their description of her.
Rihanna responded in their language. You're and educated fool, a learned scholar whom I suppose is sitting in his or her Manhattan skyscraper office, taking time off of your busy schedule to school the little people before your afternoon power meeting.
shes a pig
So....Rihanna just proved she is exactly what the article called her.
She apparently has the intelligence of most blacks (awful grammar and various misspelling of simple words), and to say "F-You" as a response makes her out to be a total dog.
So yeah what they called her is obviously a true and astute observation. She's just ticked off because it's true.
She must have an awesome collection of wigs!
Really? So now you want to say I'm not white because of where I came from? Would you like me to send a pic? My G*d..get off the hate train with me.
My problem with Rihanna getting upset is that 9 out of 10 rap songs contain the N word or the B word. I'm sick of this one sided racism crap. If you don't want white people to say it, tell your own people to stop saying it.
Extremely light skin and light colored eyes. She's definitely not black. If she is, it is INCREDIBLY diluted.
How come people who are mixed race identify with black only. To me, THAT seems racist.
She is definitely black. Both her parents are black. and if you google them she looks just like her dad ((minus the lazy eye)). Both her brothers are light skinned too. Black people, just as anyone else, come in all shades – skin, hair, eyes, etc.
No relation: Creole people are known for having a light complexion with hazel/green eyes and are full black too.
He looks even MORE white than she!
I can tell from all the low-browed, ignorant, hick-loving, trailer-park comments being posted here that a lot of people don't get it. The first being the so-called writer of that Jackie fashion article. Don't come out saying it wasn't meant to be racist when clearly the N word has a very negative connotation towards black people around the world. Your attempt to downplay your choice of words by making it seem like it was a joke is just a clear indication that you and people like yourself have missed the evolutionary rung of the ladder. You want to write about fashion, then write about fashion – if you want to be racist, be racist – but no one wants to know your political views in a fashion magazine. Most people who look at fashion magazines only look at the pictures anyway. I hope your magazine goes out of business, because insensitive bigots like you have no place in journalism.
For all you imbeciles who chose to focus your negative comments on Rihanna – Get a life! I'm sure most of you would love to be an artist making millions of dollars doing what you love – but you're not! Hell, I'm sure you wish you could read, write, know geography, research facts, sing, write lyrics, produce music – but you can't! Look yourselves in the mirror and say to yourself – what have I accomplished in life that makes me so much better than everyone else? Your pathetic attempts to "contribute" to this comment stream have only served to the further degradation of society and has made me realize how far humanity still has to go. Good luck to you all – you're going to need it! By the way, for any Neanderthal who has difficulty understanding my comments, please go back to school!
@krislankay jealous much,maybe I could beat the h!ll out of your dumb azz.
Every action has a reaction Rihanna. This magazine just published the feelings from all decent people,that regardless race, are deeply disgusted with the "we found love" video, that suggests our teenage generation to use drugs and thinks its cool."I hope u can read Dutch, because your videomusic is a poor representation of the evolution of the humans! I find you disrespectful, and rather desperate to get attention -either bad or good, which is not the case!! I really hope one day Rihanna has a daughter and she watch that video, and she will be disgusted. Rihanna is the only desperate, "That’s your contribution to this world! To encourage 1000's of people/teenagers to do drugs and have s** w/ addicted people.
Check the haters ....if u people have a problem with RiRI who cares...why do you always revert to saying racist remarks and in the next second saying the silly juvenile "using the race card"...that is the equivelent of throwing rocks then hiding ur hands ....and she has a rocking body no flat backs are cute!!!
It is apparent that the English language is changing considerably since the start of hip hop music. Globally, many in the younger generation have lost their self-respect as well as for other cultures too. It is the editor's responsibility to set the standard for what is or is not printed. This was clearly not done. I have to believe that this was a public relation hype to get attention for the magazine and Rihanna. Its ashame what people will do to get attention.
your music SU(KS you have the memory of a goldfish which is why you repeat the same 15 words over and over and over again in a song!
Hahahaha...this is Soooooo true. I do not understand what all the hype is about her. She CANNOT sing. Honestly, she should thank Chris Brown for beating her @$$ because without it, she never would have gotten this famous. Pity gets you places..
Here is what I think happened. And I am in no way making an excuse for any of the parties involved.
My observation living in Europe is that non-blacks are so removed from any sort of mailciousness regarding race that they feel that they can talk like members of any said race.
For those of you who think you can still use degrading racial terms innocently, there is no such thing. A word like n***** has been used by so many violently hateful people for so long, that only the violently hateful or the stupid (...members of said race included) still think its funny to use these terms.
Moral of the story......Political correctness if always boring, but Hateful adjectives are never funny.
Here is what ignorant people on this blog don’t understand, It’s very foolish and very ignorant to make a 'GENERAL' statement about an entire group of people, whether Muslims, Arabic, Short, Tall, African, Black, White etc... Also when you see wrong it’s ok to say this is wrong, and keep on moving. Your race or nationality should not be the deciding factor on whether or not you will speak out about a wrong.
Here are three things to consider,
1. The magazine Jackie was wrong for printing the article calling Rihanna a demeaning and racist name. Rihanna's 'COME BACK' or response has nothing to do with the actions of the magazine, they were wrong point blank! 'B**** is degrading to women and no matter how much a person acts a certain way, according to some posters on this blog, it does not give a national magazine the right to be demeaning or condescending!
2. N***er or N***a are both offensive whether blacks use it or Whites use it or Green people use it or Yellow people use It's OFFENSIVE, RACIST and disgusting and does not need to be used. There is no justification for Jackie magazine using the word on a person. The word is disgusting and an editor should know such a thing and be smart enough not to allow the word to be used in a publication in the manner in which it was used.
3. When you say Blacks without specifying ‘some’ you are making a general statement. And it’s only uneducated and ignorant people who cannot differentiate between something a portion of a whole group a people do, and something the entire group of people do. There are first generations African American’s with families from Africa, the Caribbean, etc… that live in America. When you speak of blacks in term of African Americans understand that you are talking about Millions of people not a couple of thousands. There are millions of Black Americans who despise the word, so when people make comments like ‘blacks use the word, so it’s hypocritical to say Jackie can’t use it’, you are being ignorant. Some Ignorant blacks use the word, they don’t understand the hurt the word cause in generation pass, and so they continue to use the word. That does not mean ‘ALL’ blacks use the word or approve of the word.
Some Whites regardless of location, U.S Europe etc… are racist, ALL Caucasians are NOT RACIST.
Some Muslims participate in terrorist activities, ALL MUSLIMS DO NOT participate in Terrorist activities.
Some Short people like tall Spouses, ALL tall people DO NOT like tall spouses.
You get the point! All blacks do not use the term or approve of it being used by other blacks, in the same sense the word is offensive and should not have been used by Jackie Magazine whether or not some blacks are hypocrite and use use it or not!!!!!
Some Black people use the N word, so that means using it should be acceptable? Some whites (I refuse to call them people) are making blatant racist statements on this very blog; a LOT of racist statements. Does that mean all of you are racist and hate-filled? Do these animals represent the thinking of the white race? Do their comments reflect how you all feel in private, while you pretend that you have evolved beyond this type of racism in public? Just wondering.
First of all where did Wendel get his information about Blacks under the age of 30 use the N word? There are so many stereotypical comments stemming from this article. It's so ridiculous how ignorant some people can be. It's almost funny. The sad part is that the ones that are posting the hate, know not a single black person, but will go on to teach their children about a group of people they know nothing about; hence more ignorance. Second, learn to spell or type your post in MS Word and use spell check before posting it for hundreds of people to read. Then you would know that said is not spelled S-A-Y-E-D. My 8 year old knows that. Lastly, as an educated-married-with-children, Black female, the disgusting, degrading, hurtful N word has never and will never be a part of my vocabulary. So not all of US use it.
To those of you who didn't read this carefully and are commenting on her English: she posted this on Twitter and not in a letter format but 140-character bits. So there...
To those who say she says the words in lyrics so it's okay if someone says that to her... Really? Is that an excuse? Do you really think it's okay? No it's not.
@Zoe. Dead on my friend.
Rihanna could have responded with class and took the high road. Her actions speaks volumes about HER character.
Well, what do you expect you a**holes. All I ever hear on the subway is 'what's up my n**ger' and 'my n**ger'this and my n**ger that..and every body just let's it go. No one says anything to these young kids that use this word every five seconds, no seriously..every five seconds. Everybody acts as if they didn't hear it. Or it's ok to say it if your black. No,No,No,,,Nooooooooo..its never ok to say the N word you f**ck*ing a**h*les!!! And until we stop saying this word so freely and thinking that its ok..it will be ok with the world to say it. The assignment: count today how many people say the N word..blacks , whites, latinos, russians, irish, etc..just count..you'll be up to 100 by noon. Well done America!
i do her anyway
Remember these are the same people, who like to black their faces up each 5th of December, and think it's all in good fun!
The Dutch are some of the must historically blind people I have every come across.
If you don't know your history, then you should shut the.............. up!
They're also the same people who first brought African slaves over to America and had many African colonies. Isn't it funny how the Europeans are always the first ones condemning racism, human rights issues and the like, yet they practically invented slavery and conquered untold numbers of African countries in order to be their colonial masters? Such hyprocrites.
Have you white people lost your mind? I mean, how is it that you can disrespect a womens ethnicity when you know she has influenced nearly every facet of wwhite culture... from her music to our style of dress. Not to mention your basic imitation of our sense of cool; walk, talk, dress, mannerisms... we enrich your very existence, all the while contributing to the gross national product through our achievements in corporate America. It's these conceits that comfort me when I am faced with the ignorant, cowardly, bitter and bigoted, who *have* no talent, no guts? people like you who desecrate things they don't understand when the truth is – you should say thank-you, man? and go on about your way. But apparently you are incapable of doing that! .................from be cool/edited
Bleach dont count, ur still a n*****.
Wow before the internet I didn't know that there were so many racist white people,I don't mean skin heads or white supremacist.I mean like the people that I work with everyday,that speak to me and have coffee with.
OMG! For the four billionth time, she is not American! She was born in Barbados.
shes just another angry n**** b****
Europeans don't understand American racism plain and simple.
Check out Rihanna's twitter from December 5th on that day alone she uses that word multiple times. As others have mentioned she uses it in her song lyrics as well. She has no room to condemn someone else for using a word she uses her self. What a god damn idiot.
The other day I was at a gathering at a friend's house when I said I liked Rihanna, but I thought she had "sold out a little." Then we all concurred that it was understandable and that we would sell out too in the same situation. But I take it all back. Well done Rihanna! Anyone who has the courage to speak out so strongly against bigotry and racism in the media should NEVER be called a sell-out. There is a time to tell someone to F*** O** and this was one of them. Also, I would like to thank her for speaking on my behalf as well.
I hope you never use the N word other wise you are being a hypocrite. Rihanna uses that word all the time in her songs and when communicating just check her twitter for proof where she calls people that word. She is a hypocrite nothing more nothing less.
Such BS, because half the music (if you want to call the trash coming out these days) uses the "N-Word" ALL THE TIME. Where is Rhiana when it comes to VOCALLY DENOUNCING ALL THAT CRAP RAP THAT DENIGRATES HER RACE AND WOMAN IN IT...... All I hear is silence and its DEAFENING!!!!... So her statement above bears no weight with me
Oh please ... I lived in various places throughout Europe for years and years, and I heard white people using the "N" word with each other like a fat kid eats cheese. They think because they watch American Rap music, and "think black people are cool" they can call each other "ni$%er" and it's not only okay ... it's funny and cool. I'd sometimes try and explain why they shouldn't say that word, regardless of the context, but they'd tell me I "didn't know what I was talking about." I especially made a point to warn a friend of a friend who was making a trip to the United States, and she used the word all the time ... she told me I was being "melodramatic," suggesting because she was white from Europe it was okay, because she wasn't white from the United States. I sat there and said, "ja, they're really not going to care where you're from ..."
To all these people who are crying racism – you are pathetic. If black people/culture didn't perpetuate the ni##er stereotype in everything they do, it wouldn't be an issue. Don't act like a ni##er, and you won't get treated like one. Pretty simple concept really.
That's pretty hard to do since your so racist that "acting like a N####R" actually means "stop being black". All of your racist ass posts prove that racism is alive is in this country and you can say whatever the hell you want to behind your computer screen. You want to blame us for all of your problems when your forefathers put black people in this position. You put all of the N****gers into ghettos then moved out and took all of the money that would have developed the cities with you because you got scared. After that you have entire neighborhoods that are impoverished and when there's poverty there's crime. Things have been this way for so long that generations of black people have gotten used to it. Black people in those times were not given jobs nor were they given property to own, just for being black And you wonder now why things are the way they are in some of the communities? MAN I wish more people would go to college
Who the hell let her out of the kitchen and onto a computer?? It's time to go Chris Brown on her ass again...
I'd still poke her.
seriously..people get a life..she responded in anger just like any of us would – it's called a knee jerk reaction. Was it right? no, but it's not that big of a deal, so quit with all the vitriol you're spewing on here, lest you start sounding like the pretentious, "hiding behind computer screens" moron you really are~
I think that over time language has evolved so who is to say what is right and what is wrong in the sense of spelling out words, cutting them short etc, who really cares unless your a Havard proffessor teaching old school english. this is a new generation and new things come about everday.
secondly, i personal hate the "N" word it is derogative and puts all races to shame regardless of skin colo simple for the reason in which the word was used "slavery" at some point in time every race has faced the issue, the jews dont run around using the word jew as jokeful slander. point in case why as american regardless of race do some of us use it to be jokeful or hurtful. i think that its truly sad that it takes an issue like this to stir up an issue of racism when we are so pass that time period in which it was acceptable.
lastly none of you know rihannia, no one should be defending rihanna but rihanna, she as an entertainer good or bad take the good with the ugly and none of you are getting paid to defend her, yes we all comment and i feel that ok but some people take this to the heart as if someone walked in your house an offended you, i understand the personal attachment because you may like her music, but dont you think the situation simple is a magazine published something rude and rihanna needs to deal with it herself and as she is widely an all around american entertainer we should just support her decesion to deal with it in whatever way verses turning it into a race issue?
Come get what,man typed to death?You're saying
what you don't have the balls to say to a black person's face,you coward.
Rhianna is an untalented sk@nk. She is a hypocrite. She has Chris Brown arrested for domestic violence, yet sings about violence in s_ex on her CD's that have a parental advisory sticker on them. Rhianna is a bland singer with no talent. She is popular because of the Chris Brown incident. Without that, she'd just be another mediocre singer struggling to get a record deal.
You are Soooo RIGHT Mom of 4 - she's a HYPOCRITE !!
Can't expect anything better from a country that burned 11 million Jews, can you?
Ummm ... wow. Well ...
1) Holland never had 11 million Jews.
2) Most estimate place the number of Jewish deaths in the Holocaust at 6 million
3) There were no concentration camps in Holland ... most were in occupied Poland, some in Germany, and a few scattered across the other Nazi occupied Eastern European countries. Jews from western Nazi Occupied countries (France, Holland, Denmark, Norway, etc ...) were transported by train to concentration camps in the East.
4) You REALLY need to read a history book.
blursd – he/she/it is from Southern Cal - what do you expect? They are bankrupt and still expect more free government subsidies and saving the purple bellied beetles – They can't even live within their means... but one goo thing – surfs up dude!!.....
blursd – he/she/it is from Southern Cal - what do you expect? They are bankrupt and still expect more free government subsidies and saving the purple bellied beetles – They can't even live within their means... but one goo thing – surfs up dude!!. ....
Great response Rihanna. Your command of spelling and grammar is truly impressive! Spoken like a true N***** B****! If the shoe fits...
@JUG Whites only hate blacks that act like nig*ers...like you.
thanks for proving my point, you racist m0r0ns :-)
THIS JUST PROVE THAT NO MATTER WHAT WHITES WILL ALWAYS BE RACIST TOWARD BLACKS.
BLACKS NEED TO START A RACE WAR IN EVERY COUNTRY WE LIVE IN.
And you'd lose because you're outnumbered.
This called an 'eye for an eye' Go Rihanna!!!
What race is she anyways? She looks more white than black.
What's all the uproar about?
The Dutch magazine, Jackie, was wrong, obviously for printing the slur. Rihanna's response was also very childish and petty. Whatever happened to following the advice: "Two wrongs don't make a right" or "Take the high road."? And where, oh where, was her manager publicist with the muzzle? Not trying to blame the victim here (i.e. Rihanna), but really, you can't fight stupidity (i.e., the dutch magazine) with stupidity (Rihanna's response). SMDH.
~Shanti (An black woman)
@Larry, please don't reproduce. It will make the world a dumber place.
Gawwd! What a N****B****!
@bang I get CNN but why is everyone so hateful and against a race?Just because a woman stood up to an insult.
seems about right, what is the problem? i am sure if it was btv or ntv it would have been fine to say
Everybody go to bed save your hate for another blog about blacks it should be hear soon topic:Kobe Bryant's divorce.For a liberal network they're a lot of raCist here.
Racists and trolls come to boards like this as a safe place to express themselves.
What surprises me is that I haven't read scores of posts about Obama or the GOP or anything else political. The political junkies seem to see *every* story as an excuse for starting a fight.
This has been blown out of proportion – there are clearly language and cultural issues here. This was a small blurp in a small time Dutch magazine with local distrubition only. Ms. Hoeke, although fluent in English, was unaware of the impact of using the N word. Especially when using slang or contemporary English terms, it is all too easy to go overboard, especially if you are trying to be 'cool'.
It would be helpful for everyone to step back and take a deep breath.
Yes, this is the only comment that nails it. It is simply a cultural difference and it was unfortunate Rhianna was not seasoned enough to know this. I am certain she must travel to spread that spittle you guys call "music". Yeah I said it now come get it!
Take a step back? Are you serious? People write here BECAUSE they want to make angry posts. If the story were about kittens, some people would be ranting about, well, pretty much anything they wanted. At least this story has a connection to something like injustice.
Your argument makes too much sense for anyone to take it seriously here... sorry :(
@Vic - you obviously know very little about American history. Where did all of the light-skinned and different shades of black people come from in this country? Did they just magically appear? Or do you think they all had white mothers and black fathers? There's somebody who is ignorant alright, but its not black women Vic.
Ya know, this article would have actual been informative had the dutch article, and therefore the context, been included.
Whether or not some people agree or disagree with the usage (I disagree), this talk is considered slang in some cultures in the US as well as other countries, so the context would have been quite telling. I am betting that the article was aimed more at calling her "fierce" and not slandering her. But, we'll never know. Instead we'll all just make assumptions and get outraged over something we don't know about.
@Spyker, Tom and every other white person who brings up the stupidest argument of all times - Why is it that you want to use the 'N-word' so badly? What is with the obsession? The word has been used inside the race and outside the race by many. Whites and others used the "N" word to degrade - blacks, have used the terms among themselves to diffuse the power of the term, and it has become a multi-purpose term of endearment. The "they use it so why can't we" argument is dumb, lame and old. Please let it go and think up something new. People inside groups can say things that people outside don't say. Period, end of discussion. So please go back to the drawing board for another lame excuse for hateful language. If people of a certain people group want to use a slur as a term of endearment, that's their business. Whites, Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Asians - I've heard people from each group do something similar. Just leave those 1 or 2 words out of your vocab if you're not in that group. It's just that easy. Great response Rihanna! Trash headline by this Dutch magazine.
ok jbc . Then start having your black man friends start BEING MEN and OWNING UP and if they get a woman pregnant THEY SUPPORT THE CHILD, then other people will stop using derogatory terms
@TS - you assume that my black male friends don't support their children. More stereotypes. And I will do this just as soon as you make sure that all of your white male friends start supporting their as well. There are millions of white men and men of other races who don't support their children as they should. If it weren't true, we wouldn't need a child support system in this country. Everybody would pay on their own. And what does paying child support have to do with a dutch magazine using the "N" word? That is a garbage argument, and the use of the "N" word to degrade has nothing to do with child support, it has to do with 1 person wanting to use something arbitrary to make themselves feel more powerful than somebody else. People don't degrade people because 'they deserve it" –people who degrade others do so because they're disgraceful people.
cnn headquarters are in the land of freedom of speech, thank god.
I see that there are a lot of Rihanna haters here. But I still cannot believe CNN is allowing all these morons to post their BS here.
This dumb bit*ch is 80% white and100% ghetto,
It's a publicity stunt. Act accordingly.
Hey Vic,i'm a black woman and i've dated a few white men and I always have come back to my race.Let me destroy your little myth you won't believe this but black women of every socioeconomic background get approached everyday by men of other races,my mom's fifty seven and she still gets asked out by guys of other races.She's been widowed for seven years and most of the guys that she works with and ask her out are white she politely declines.So Vic stop living in De-Nile.
If the word wasn't so heavily kept alive by the very people who find it offensive, it probably wouldn't be used as a term of endearment by other races, as it was in this case. Just my TCW
Rihanna is clearly inarticulate and crass in her response to the albeit racist comments by the magazine. Perhaps the characterization is accurate.
Since when did Rihanna become black!?!?!?
I dare say that if it fate of humanity's existence depended my efforts in any way, there would be reason to panic. Yes congrats bloggers on coming out on the internet. I almost believed that those days were over but thanks for keeping me informed that behind your hypocritical smiles you are this ugly inside but I thank you for keeping me informed. Please be brave enough to speak this freely to every black/asian or any class towards whom you hold such prejudices. P.S. I like my Nazis in uniform, this way you can spot-em just-like-that.
Correction..* friend * herself
if you want to insult her call her a white b*****. bet she will jump on that.
Why the heck did they use that picture of her? That's a terrible picture.. she's a beautiful woman and there are a lot better pictures of her floating around out there.
Rihanna is by far the most unprofessional millionaire in the world. After reading that response, I have just lost whatever respect I had for her. It's evident she didn't read the article complimenting her STYLE, if she considers the article degrading to an entire race. What an unprofessional and irrational response from a "grown" woman. How immature.
I'd bang her
yeah, that's like 98% for the guys here... who wouldn't guys bang? sh!t, I bang anything half-bangable.
How did Racial Slur got started? My Tram Experience.... It's about Blacks vs. Whites. They don't seem to get along very well.
Having read some of these comments, I almost wish that the myth about blacks being unintelligent was true as this would've saved me much distaste for humanity. Some of these bloggers are sick.
she had those words repeated to her so many times at one time that it just words to her. Really.. people they are just words. Why get bent out of shape for it. People will still call you what they want anyway. I learned a lot from just being on Marquee blog until a friends said that it was just words. If she is calling herslef that..well maybe she was told that a lot. Hey, I was called a C ** t by my ex and after a while I got numb to it and it just became words. Who knows. Don't hate her for how she is expressing herself.
We were calling each other n!gga in Europe and nobody was offended. Of course we were 100% whites, but the word itself was actually cool and fun to call it. Got no problem with it.
I have no legs... I have no legs... My hovercraft is full of eels. Would you like to go back to my place, bouncy bouncy?
OK, SO WHAT'S THE BIG DEAL!???
You don't want to be called a N***??? DON'T CALL YOURSELVES N***'s!!! It's THAT SIMPLE!
Tell all these "rapper musicians" to quick calling themselves and all blacks N***'s and the rest of the world may follow suite...
YOU ARE KNOWN BY WHAT YOU CALL YOURSELVES! HELLO!!!
i just want to thank the bloggers that support Rihanna being called a n- b- because after all it's a term "used by all black people" and plus she deserves it.
Tonight you have confirmed that it will be okay for me to refer to Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Madonna, Katy Perry, Kesha and other popular white pop stars as White Trash B!tches because where I'm from (Kansas) people lovingly have White Trash parties so I guess it's a term that insults people if you call them that but it's okay when you're having a party to make fun of the less fortunate.
So when I publish my fashion magazine the headline article will pay homage to the ULTIMATE White Trash B- Madonna! She's done quite a bit to deserve it (but I mean that in a good way) after all "all white people use that term. Hopefully Madonna and all other white people will understand that I mean it as a compliment and not something degrading.
Much love my fellow hypocrites, much love.
Now Sal... Everyone deserves a second chance, I'm giving you that chance to quantify your comment. You're categorizing a whole group of people. That's like me saying all white people can't dance, or white men are rapist, or white men have little penis. It is true that SOME black people use this word, but it's called individual accountability. If an individual wants to use this word, they should suffer consequences and public ridicule. I challenge you to be more thoughtful.
I am very horrified at some of the comments left here. Goes to show that there are a lot of ignorant people throughout this world, and that will only keep us at a stand still. I can tell the majority of the comments left here are by people that are White and it turns may stomach at how you all really view African Americans. But you can listen to OUR music, try and copy OUR style, but then put US down. Damn shame.
The Dutch calling Rihanna this? I'm shocked!! After all, this is only the country who first brought African slaves to America. Think they still harbor some racist feelings 200 years later? Hmmm, I wonder....
hey hey now...we all made slaves of them, sh!t when we found them they were wearing bird masks, jumping around and fighting each other with sticks. we gave them hope. god bless em. lol
To all Caucasians around the world. (:
lol...will it be your p.iss, you bum? probably...
She's A N****r B****
for those of you who keep crying hypocrite to black's conversations with each other, it's no different than the things that you may say to a brother or sister that you won't allow anyone else to say to them. Please use common sense.
Have you even listened to popular music? You can't toss that crap around and not expect others to not attempt to emulate it. It's unfortunate Rhianna is the target of this, as I don't believe she's been crass enough to use language like that in her songs.
@jimmyjoe,whatever you've been to no 'hood and haven't and you don't know any blacks from a 'hood you are not funny or smart so stop exaggerating up and just keep typing from suburbia.
It's surprising to see all of this racism from such a liberal slanted website. These are the same people that are quick to defend those poor discriminated against Muslims, but sit here and criticize blacks for the conduct of a few. I am black and work in a predominantly black environment, and rarely EVER hear the N-Word.As a matter of fact, I have only heard it ONCE in 2+ years, and that was in the most private of conversations.
Stop pretending to be so tolerant on the surface, but then come out of the woodwork to spew all this racist venom the first opportunity you get.
Chris Brown probably uttered the same words when he beat the crap out of Rihanna. He's still walking around making millions of dollars and she tolerates it. Double standard...one for Chris Brown, one for the Dutch.
so, if a dutch magazine says it its racism but if one of the artists featured in her music endorses it its called "culture". hip hop you are rih-tarded.
BTW her response is about as white trash as it gets.
You stand on your head when you press the key.
To be honest – I really don't like Rhiana – the person – I felt like she was biased on X Factor – her and that LA Rude, as they call him. However, I do like a couple of her songs. Her voice is good – guess that gives her permission to act like a,,,well, you know......
Why do all black people get lumped into the same group? Just because some people use that term does not mean it's going to be accepted by all black people. That is offensive no matter who says it. I wish people would stop trying to control how people feel. If it doesn't bother you then why get mad that it bothers someone else? no compassion left in this world.
If I had her money – I have people scripting my every conversation – heck yeah!!!
oh come on! we all know rihanna presents herself like a ghetto ho so whats the big deal? and obviously they were talking about her, not an entire race. i'm sure she enjoyed the attention regardless of what she said on twitter, because she does OFTEN dress like a $20 ho....like my gf for example... just another ho... works for me... ho ho ho, merry christmas.
....And you *KNOW* she can afford to pay a PR person/publicist/handler!!!!!!! But yet, she fires off a nonsensical reply in that poor English!
hey lay off, she's a ho AND a pop star, and that's a lot to expect of her to spell "you" when she can just press "u"...it's the same difference to normal gangsters like ourselves these days ho... aight? it's all about getting our drugs on time and type quick aight... lol.
Too bad that Rhianna has less class than to react with the same type of angry vitriol. Have no respect for either party.
Rihanna is basically a young LaToya Jackson if LaToya Jackson had any talent.
I think she could've been more tactful in her response. But that is people these days.
excuse me diggerfitch,whatever you call yourself, Riri gave her answer the same way the author issued her 'name calling'. U know the porblem with u people u always quick to label people with names, it is always easy to give negative views about black people, some of u av never even tried to know people but u all tend to view all black people as evil and bad. Ri has all right to answer back, she may not be fully educated, but at least she is well off and can afford to pay you and ur family and ancestors put together. The person who wrote this article is dutch, and take it from me some people in europe are still very racist. i am sure they will not like us to informed them that their skin looks like the skin of chicken. but then am not racist just given the information as it is. why do you white use bottox from the age of 20's, how many black people do you know that have use bottox. That is because they dont need to, God's given them brown sugar sweet skin
OKAY – if someone will just tell me what this stands for, I will be the referee/judge, and I will tell you if it is something I have ever heard before or not – ok? So what does it stand for???? N***B***???
I like her music and the term used to describe her is without a doubt hateful, but - wow - she did herself no favor by writing this entirely illiterate response herself. She may be able to sing, but she certainly can't spell, punctuate, nor form even a simple, understandable sentence. I don't sing in public because I can't carry a tune and would embarrass myself if I tried. The same should go for people who can't write; they should keep it to themselves or do what every other superstar celebrity does - pay educated, level-headed publicists to write their public responses for them.
she did fine. she's a 20 something year old millionaire that looks like a barbie and can have anything and anyone... and from what i've seen her wear on TV, DOES NOT CARE ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE SAY ABOUT HER.
NB or not....I'd still do her....
I actuallly want me one of those necklace...lol. Works well for me. Good night all.
Can someone please enlighten me – what does N**** B*** stand for??? I have sat here and read this whole boring article, as well as ALL the comments that followed, hoping to unravel this mystery – But alas – nuttin!!!!! So please, do tell...... (Yes, I know I am a might dumb for not knowing this – just tell me anyway – )
To all the clueless people out there. I'm black, and never have I heard anyone refer to themselves or anyone else as a "n**** b****". As Rihannna stated, that does't even make sense. So to say that you hear us call ourselves that all the time, is a bold faced lie. I guarantee that you don't have a single black group of friends that you interact with enough to even make such a statement. I thought that when I scrolled to the comment section that I would find that the general population, of all ethnicities, found what was printed within the Dutch magazine to be disrespectful and uncalled for. However, you most of are somewhat in support of it, claiming that we call ourselves that all the time (which is a lie), so why can't others. It's sickening. So much for "post-racial America".
well that's funny, i call my ho's by their name which is the unspeakable N***** B**** and it's all in good fun ;o. stuck up people just need to unstuck themselves and they will see that there really is freedom.
I think you people need to go and get some egg nog and sugar cookies and relax. No need to get the panties in a bunch being it so close to Christmas and such..
After reading the posts here by white people who I would have thought would unanimously say that what was printed was hateful speech and that paper should be embarassed all I here is how they are justified because some black people use the word. Really...let me see some white people are racist thugs who sit on porches smokin' meth while their dirty oily haired white progeny run around barefoot in front of their trailor park depending on their job pumping gas in overalls, if they can keep that job at all, to "support" their children while taxpayers such as myself put their gap toothed dirty children through school and give them medicaid. Don't be mad at me though people I'm not racist, I'm just calling it like I see it. People like Taylor Swift is wh!te trash one failed record away from being one of those trashy car models who lay across the hood of a car wearing shorts if you can call them that and a bra looking like the wh0re's of babylon they are. But I'm not racist, it is what it is people. If people like you all weren't such low life's who can't keep your daughters off the str!pper poles and sons out of the meth houses this country wouldn't be in such disarray. You all have no family values. Not racist, just calling like it is. You all are what you are.
I like your comment. It will be interesting to see how many people will comprehend what you actually mean.
in all this, the editors of this trash magazine are laughing as in their soulless trade, there is no such thing as bad publicity. Anything will sell. However Rihanna should not have responded that way on twitter, when you jump in a sewer , you get the dirt on you. World over people know this magazine is rubbish and is the rough equivalent of a redneck writing some racist content on a blog.
Rihanna is black? She looks white to me. She also looks fake as hell–I thought it was a photo of a Barbie doll at first.
STFU u clowns
Sorry to say this, but I think Rhianna's beef should be more with the culture within her country that glorifies the status of the same name that she is complaining about. The "n" word is widely used in good context, and it isn't fair that only one group of people get to set the rules as to when it can and cannot be used. Rhianna, if you dislike the use of the word, look to the people who are glorifying its use. If you are offended by being referred to as a "b", perhaps you should first take a deep and hard look at yourself.
All my respect to Rihanna as singer and human just went down the drain.
Trash. Ghetto trash.
No doubt. Had the mag used a non-racist remark, I'd agree with them: zero class, all trash. But she's young, and apparently uneducated in how to properly respond to negative criticism. It's not her JOB, but she has people around her to do it for her, if she cannot respond appropriately herself, other than the verbal middle finger.
Didn't like her before, like her less now. When she's older and her looks are fading (as well as her popularity, for which there is zero understanding in the first place), she'll be embarrassed.
I believe all whites are racists. It's just a matter of time before it comes out.
Are you black?
and blacks are not racist? lol
Well with all respect, on behalf of my race, here are my two words for you...F*** YOU!!!" YEAH GREAT way to show off the best of your race.
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I am not surprise that an Afrikaans, aaah Dutch would talk in that manner.
Ok so she gets called a N-B and then reacts just like a N_B. I'm confused :)
How do NB act like?
The magazine was obviously WRONG but the last words in her statement don't show her as a very classy woman either. the truth is that people will always try to bring you down and yet with your response you show wether you stand below them or above them.
Magazine had it dead on.
Long ago, a fellow Caribbean aptly beat narrow-minded ignorants like this magazine editor single-handedly in his words:
“I don't have prejudice against meself. My father was a white and my mother was black. Them call me half-caste or whatever. Me don't dip on nobody's side. Me don't dip on the black man's side nor the white man's side. Me dip on God's side, the one who create me and cause me to come from black and white.”
He is also known for saying:
“The people who are trying to make this world worse aren’t taking a day off. How can I?”
No other words could address the issue better.
I think her Twitter response proved that the magazines description of her as the ultimate nig*** bi*** was closer to being correct than not. Then again, "ultimate" may be the wrong word.
I am someone who gets sick of the race card thrown around all the time for no reason, but in this case, come on. Maybe I'm just looking at this as an American and it's not that big of a deal to the Dutch to use it, but it seems totally innappropriate. Of course there would be an outcry. However, Rhianna's reply makes her sound like a classless moron. And on Twitter? Come on. Couldn't she have just issued a statement that made her sound intelligent?
she's only 23, what do you expect?
Okay Jen...let's take race out of it.....For Christmas, I will send your mother a card that says "Merry Christmas N**** B****"........I am sure you will just smile and say "oh how sweet"?........
Uppity N***** B**** I bees Reeana and four all yu peeps who cant be speakin Inglish...downt be callin me da N wurd. I says N word cuz I cants spel it.
Her response is an embarrassment to the English language.
If black people don't like being called n****, then they should be the first ones to stop using the word. It never ceases to amaze me how they don't understand that they're keeping themselves down.
you mean "some" black people.
If white men dont want to be viewed as child molestors and abductors of little girls, then maybe they stop doing these things......now Jane, how dumb was my statement? Bingo, pretty dumb because I am implying that ALL white men participate in this behaviour, which is not true. Now, let's see if you are woman enough to adjust your statement and imply that NOT ALL blacks use this type of language? I doubt you got the guts to do it though...so stick to your BS generic comments!
Now Jane... Everyone deserves a second chance, I'm giving you that chance to quantify your comment. You're categorizing a whole group of people. That's like me saying all white people can't dance, or white men are rapist, or white men have little penis. It is true that SOME black people use this word, but it's called individual accountability. If an individual wants to use this word, they should suffer consequences and public ridicule. I challenge you to be more thoughtful.
You have no idea how ignorant you are, do you?
The bigger questions is why are people still subscribing to and buying magazines. They're desperate like newspapers. If anythings a joke, its on them in this digital age.
Too many of these comments expose the creators as lazy thinkers with low or no education. No one in the black community uses the words n****b**** in this way. I don't agree with how SOME black people use the word n***a (not n***er), but even looking at the context of this comment, it is obviously meant to be degrading. The sooner everyone realizes that we all come from the same place, which is what we know as "Africa" the sooner these idiots will get over their superiority complex. Do your research ignorant people, because it's called self hatred. Your skin genetically "mutated" to be white. And stop hiding behind blogs with your racist comments. Take pride in your ignorance!
Get off your high horse Julius. I have news for you – we don't come from Africa. We were actually put here by Aliens so we're all from the seed of aliens. Just watch Ancient Aliens on the History Channel and you'll see where we actually come from.
You're ignorant to think black people don't call themselves n****. It's a racist word, so why continually use it to degrade one's own race over and over again?
Spoken like a true latino
@Peacefulguy... Alright I'm down... LMAO! If that's what you believe then I can't argue with that... haha! My point is we're all the same, so no superiority complex on my part.
@Kate... Now your a different story. I would love to debate you for ONE MILLION dollars (in Doctor Evil's voice). I would be ignorant if that's what I said, but I didn't. SMH! I said, "No one in the black community uses the words n****b**** in this way." This what we call a "square" trying to talk cool. I said SOME black people use the n word, but it's ignorant to say ALL black people use this word. There are many reasons why SOME black people use such language, and maybe if you use better comprehension skills then you did reading my post, you will be successful finding these reasons in your quest for understanding.
@ughright... I can't even entertain your comment. You have jokes!
Riyana is a very important person whose comments affect all of us. They shouldn mess with her like that. This could start a war between the Dutch and the USA. She does need to watch a bit more Katt Williams though.
What they called her has nothing to do with race .. she is disgracing our race ..don't say on behalf of your race. if you are the N word its not because you are black, And I would never respond to disrespect with more disrespect .. that isnt right either.. she is what she is..which is what they called her.
you're too old to know what's going on in Rihanna's world anyway, leave her alone, she's a very talented artist, her personality is not our business, you shouldn't judge people on how they "feel".
Yay! She hit the nail on the head. The magazine is so idiotic and racist – that was so unacceptable
She uses racist words and is offended that someone used racist words to her. Hmmmm the magazine is stupid and she is stupid too. Anyone who uses the N word and Says they can because they are black are also stupid. People of any color who use the N word are stupid. By the way, the United States is a melting pot. Nobody is full blooded anything anymore so you can't draw a line between black, white, yellow, brown. The skin color is not a heritage. My parents are very dark skinned and I'm very light and I'm a full blooded child of theirs.
I do like Rihanna's response, and she's probably right. I bet if that magazine took the article space wasted on reviewing American celebrity style and went on the streets to find real style (because this is a lifestyle magazine, after all) it would sell more copies and be a more interesting read.
Bad taste ,,,,
"I hope u can read english" hahahahahahahaha
Racist word is not what i will use for this particular singer.
More-over, she is not an African American, therefore, those words are misguided.
She is however, not what anyone with half of a brain, will want their young daughters to emulate or consider a role
model. Clean music and video will earn you respect, instead those suggestive ones. RESPECT
Not surprise, why some countries does not want to expose their young girls to her kind of music, neither will i and i reside in America.
Enitan, she's not African American? Tell me then, what exactly is "African American"?
The words were meant to be derogatory, so they were guided very well!
By the way, if you "reside in America" you may want to take some time and master your language!
you are both wrong, because she IS black, and she ISN'T African American–she's not American at all.
Rihanna's response is absolutely right on and to the point.
Whatever...I'm into heavy metal and hard rock music which i listen to all the time but I do listen to club and go club dancing. Rihanna and jazz are also a part of my music but not as much as heavy metal..F xck what she(the reporter) said and move on. Rihanna is living the life and she is expressing it it the way anyone would. I'm white, blue eyes, and bonde who the f*** cares what people write and say about you. Funny thing with story I was born and raised in the Caribbean and i do have some black in my family and I do say mean things about the black because they are just as nasty with their comment about us whites. Just words people..just words..lol
Just words? Yes, just words. Let me tell you a quick experience I once had.
Years ago, I worked for a large pharmaceutical company in New York. The boss I worked for was a particularly nasty woman. I'm a programmer and she was the director of the area I worked for. She knew nothing about technology (how she got her job was beyond me) and she covered up for her lack of knowledge by attacking people.
Long story short, we once had a meeting and she was stressing a guy out so much that his NOSE STARTED BLEEDING right there in the meeting! But hey, she didn't hit the guy. They were just words!
Death and life are in the power of the tongue!
You only need to watch 5 secs of this video to understand what's wrong with Rihanna reacting this way to N word being used by a white person. Reversed Rasism anyone?
Boris, are you really that dim that you don't see the different connotations between when Kat is using the word and when this magazine used the word?
Assuming you're a man, do you have a girlfriend/wife? Do you call her a "f*****g b***h"? Of course you don't. Not if you don't want to lose her. Yet women go out with their girlfriends and call each other this all the time. OMG It's a double standard!
Again, you're another fool on this site that seems to be confused by connotation versus denotation.
Luke: You are exactly proving my point. It's a word. How can you make a difference between a word being said by a white and black person is beyond me. I don't see the difference, if it's offensive when a white person says it, it should be when a black does too or am i wrong? Also Rihanna used N!gga in her songs too so what is she crying about? Another thing is that she is more white than black so why is she trying to be more black than white so hard? Also in Europe, the word n!gga doesn't have the history it has in the US so i'm sure the Dutch writer meant no harm, as i said it is just a word, especially in Europe where the use of this word is VERY COMMON and no harm is intended.
Boris - people groups are multi faceted. Just because 1 black person of millions and millions of Black Americans says something in a certain forum, it doesn't mean that the entire race 'approves this message'. Kat Williams is an individual who makes his own choices and says what he says in a specific context. Just like all white people don't think the same, and all asians don't think the same, all black people do not think and feel the same way. That thinking is the very heart of racism. Do you approve of everything that every person of your race does/says/believes? This defense is so annoying to me. Just because Kat Williams uses the "N-word" in his stand up performance it doesn't come close to justifying the headline or the use of the term by anybody else.
While the article is completely classless and disprespectful I would have hoped Rihanna would have taken the high road and she chose not to. Sure she was angry and insulted but she gave the magazine what they wanted, and that was a response with an F and U at the end.
He publicist should have known better than to let her take the bait.
While I agree with you (and as a black man I would like to think I would have simply not responded), unless you've actually experienced racism as a black person in this world (where we're pretty much ridiculed and hated no matter where you are in the world), you really don't know how you'd respond
With that said, I agree with you. The best response would have been no response an I wish it's the one she would have chosen.
So, racism is only genuine if the person subject to it is black?
It amazes me.....So many bigots hide behind blogs and feel beckoned to show their "words" not faces when an article or reference to someone of a different race is mentioned. It creates the opportunity for them to spew hatred;which often translates to lack of education.. To say that "all Black people" use a term is really the most unintelligent statement ....Sadly. Those with little education and minimal intelligence often rely on using racial slurs to describe how threatened and inferior they must feel.....
I never liked you, from now on, I love you because I like the way you defend yourself here, make me proud !
I've always liked Rihanna, but I agree wholeheartedly with the rest of your comment. It is a prideful and uplifting experience to read her response to that loathsome insult.
I LOVE Rihanna's response you go girl!
Are you people posting comments serious?! You're attacking Rihanna for an angry outraged response that any human being would have if someone said something offensive to him/her? Calling a woman a n**** b**** is never acceptable! I can't believe that alot of you are actually taking sides with the editor who apologized! What is wrong with you people?! I'm just totally disgusted here.
What I find most amazing is that the editors of this magazine are supposedly college-educated individuals. They make a COMPLETELY insensitive remark and rather than attack those who should know better, the majority on this board would rather attack a less educated singer. I guarantee you that the vast majority that are doing the attacking are not black.
Easy people, the N word is just that for Europeans- word. It became a bad word in States and is a bad word in States but in Europe, i'm sorry to inform you, a LOT of people use it and mean no harm. It's just a word and in Europe it's not meant to be disrespectful, it became that in the US, 'coz of the way people use(d) it.
So easy Rihanna. And i also don't understand why she's taking shots at the whole country. What does Holland have to do with this magazine? It's like taking shots at US for what the People magazine had to say... And we all know they say some DUMB $%#T
The Dutch have their nerve calling anyone out of their name. What recent contributions have they made to society but the infamous Joran Van der Sloot?
Easy people, the N word is just that for Europeans- word. It became a bad word in States and is a bad word in States but in Europe, i'm sorry to inform you, a LOT of people use it and mean no harm. It's just a word and in Europe it's not meant to be disrespectful, it became that in the US, 'coz of the way people use(d) it.
So easy Rihanna. And i also don't understand why she's taking shots at the whole country. What does Holland have to do with this magazine? It's like taking shots at US for what the People magazine had to say
Dumb a**.....what was the point in calling her that? what did it prove? why did those two words come to the publisher's mind?......so your bs comments to justify this unjustified degrading its absurd!.....she even mentioned she doesn't even know this magazine existed.....that tells u that a NOBODY (aka this magazine) is trying to get attention.......
I am a black female and highly offended by the use of such language. And by the way, my friends do not refer to each other in that manner. We do not degrade each other with such hateful terms, so whomever feels that those terms are acceptable needs to get a grip on reality. Does it make others feel superior by looking down on blacks or trying to classify them in a less than favorable manner? Stop trying to enslave us with the use of such terms. Moreover, I wish that the blacks that utilize these derogatory terms would also refrain from using these terms. As for me, I am proud to be an educated, black female!
If more black women and men were like yourself and didn't use those words in the entertainment industry, they wouldn't be perpetuated among the youth to the point that it has become common slang.
GT Empress, stop wasting your time. No way one post of yours is going to educate anyone on this thread. Those who want to be ignorant and racist will continue to do so. Those who want to think less of us will continue to do so regardless of our successes.
Honestly if I was Rhianna I simply wouldn't have responded. It reminded me of when Rush Limbaugh said the stupid things he said about Donnovan McNabb. Look it up if you feel like it, but it doesn't matter, really. A reporter asked Donnovan if he wanted Rush to apologize for his statements. Donnovan smartly said, (paraphrasing because I don't feel like looking it up) "Why should he apologize if that's what he believes?"
Bottom line, this magazine has no control of Rhianna's life. Sure, as black people it sucks when we achieve success after success after success only to be slapped in the face like this. I was once walking down the street, just hanging out with another black friend of mine when a man passed by and uttered quietly, "F****ng N*****s". While we laughed him off, it was a slap in the face. It was a reminder that no matter the fact that I have an Mechanical Engineering degree and a house and two kids and am a productive member of society, some will only see me as a "F****ng N****r".
GT Empress, you'll NEVER change anyone's mind regarding racism. If they want to be racist, there's nothing you can do about that. You unfortunately are just going to have to harden your heart around this matter.
They wrote n!gga b!tch in English, so they are obviously fluent, you dumb n!gga lovin whure.
Are all of you uppity high yellows and Compton blues satisfied?
Why is it that she would find this offensive? What baffles me is that she can use the "N" word with her friends and other African Americans can use the offensive term, but the moment someone of another race/ethnicity uses it, they are now bigots or racists. If you find it so offensive, stop using it with your own people. Until you stop using the terminology that offends you with your own race, then the rest of the world won't either. Stop complaining and effect the change that you talk about instead of expecting everyone else to do it.
You're baffled by this? Clearly it doesn't take much to baffle you then! Do a google search on "connotation and denotation". If you're still baffled then clearly one google search isn't going to make up for the fact that your school system failed you!
Outside of her music, do you know her personally? Do you have her wired up and have proof of her using the word? I am a black male and I NEVER use that word, and the people I am around don't use it. However, does that give a magazine the right to call me names just because OTHER black people, and some whites, use it? This goes beyond race, if a newspaper came at me out of the blue, I'd be fired up and kick their ass! A NO NAME magizine has to become famous by throwing somone under the bus.....desperate!
The truth hurts doesn't it?
How dare a magazine print the truth!!!
Rihanna is NOT a b***h. She is a n***** though. lmao!
Rihanna's barely black
And your brain is barely working.
Eva Hoeke is the ultimate ignorant twåt. And if you google her, bítch was hit with damn near every branch of the ugly tree.
How can you slur a bimbo?
Stop calling Rhianna by your mother's first name!
I know I'm gonna get flamed for this, but do you want me to be honest about something? The term "N-- b-–" is what they call hood white girls who like black men. I've never heard it applied to a black woman.
I'm not saying it's right and I don't like any racial insults and digs because I think it's stupid...but I'm just saying.
Honesty is great. I'm just curious, where do you live that they say this?
At the end of the day, words mean NOTHING! It's the connotation behind them that matters. We've all heard women talking to each other and calling each other the "B" word in a joking manner. Bottom line, you could call someone a "beautiful flower" and there could be a negative connotation behind it if that's your intention.
actually none of the women I know call each other "b" jokingly. It's called self-respect and respect for others.
I'm not ashamed to admit I grew up in the "hood," but hood back in the day isn't the same as it is today and it's a state of mind anyway. It's not where you come from but how you carry yourself and I didn't use the "b" word...I used the phrase and I've heard that phrase about white girls in the hood for years. Like I said, I didn't say it was right but I've never heard the phrase used towards black women...
And I agree with Sockpuppet. I don't call my friends "b**ch" and they don't call me that. Not every black person subscribes to referring to each other like that. If I call someone that, they aint my friend.
Really? Black people in the "hood" would call a white female for dating a black man? Guess what? That means that these people are degrading themselves, not the white person. That's sad. I am glad that my husband and I are friends with several married couples (black husband/white wife- educated, intelligent, not "hood" people, if that's the way you want to describe those)...love knows no limits. Racism thrives in uneducated, impoverished neighborhoods for a reason, it's called ignorance.
Do you ever wonder why you rarely see a "black woman/any other race guy" couple?
Forgive them, Rihanna. You see, they have no concept of the context of the words. They have no idea that the "N-word" is now a verboten term, accessible only to black Americans for use as a term of endearment amongst their selves. They probably thought they were expressing cool thoughts, using relevant words that simply appear ubiquitously in black counter-culture. They have no idea that the word is kept alive to serve as an unspoken reminder to white people everywhere that, while black culture hasn't quite "caught up" yet, they like to see their selves as such, and will tolerate no overt reminders of such things like the fact that "gangsters" have gone out of style in white culture nearly a century ago. I had to laugh at the article, though. With your last two words, you proved they weren't all that far off the mark, were they? What's that saying about the "struck dog howling the loudest"?
Meelo, your ignorance seems to know no bounds. Do the words "connotation" and "denotation" mean anything to you?
Well, I like to say her response certainly was a deserved recrimination, but at the end, she proved their point.
Telling a black person how to respond to racism when you're not black is just dumb! Sure, she probably would have been better served by leaving out the curse at the end of what was a rather decent response. Quite frankly, I wouldn't have responded at all. But assuming you're not black, what do you know?
– Do you know what it feels like to walk in a store and immediately have people following you, checking to see if you're going to steal?
– Do you know what it feels like as a 5 year old to not be allowed on a bus simply because you're black?
– Do you know what it feels like to have cops pull you over, draw their guns on you while their partners search your car (for no explicable reason), only to drive off without an explanation?
If you're an 18 year old white kid growing up in the suburbs of New York, you haven't the slightest idea what it is to have to live as a black person. Your advice is COMPLETELY useless!
actually I wasn't going to argue your point, but I will after all....I am white and I grew up in an hispanic and black area in L.A. so yes, I would say I know what it's like to experience racism. Like in school when my best friend had to stop talking to me because her black friends said she shouldn't be friends with some white girl. Or when I was constantly harassed and threatened because I stuck out like a sore thumb. Just trying to walk down the street without being noticed so some dang gang banger wouldn't chase me home again. SO yeah I wasn't looked at like at like I was a criminal everywhere I went, but I was looked at like a pariah and someone to victimize. A different sort, but a very real racism.
Now all that aside, because I know it's still nothing like the racism that black people have experienced and continue to experience, I will say that how you react to racism makes a difference. Acting like an uneducated tantrum throwing toddler doesn't really play well for her. Throwing in the clunky "big words" only makes her look more ridiculous, and trying to insult their English just shows her own ignorance.
Well Luke since you have absolutely no clue whatsoever who Len is I would say that you are the one who has no idea what you're talking about.
I don't know the person but you made assumptions. Very much the EXACT thing you just described "apparently" having to go through (going into stores and being watched, 5 year old not able to ride the bus, pulled over by cops for, according to you "no apparent reason")
So shame on you for doing the exact thing to someone that you claim is apparently not acceptable.
Jen, I think that you are a smelly animal that has a tur**** for brains!
Bigotry knows no borders. I do not like her, but to insult a race is just dumb. Why do you not just insult her. I find that I can find enough personality flaws in anybody without having to insult a race or ethinicity. Dumb M.F.
So some ignorant Euro-moron calls you a "N***** B****" and you turn right around and act like one...classy, Rihanna, classy.
I'm just AMAZED by the amount of non-black people on this thread who are giving advice to a black person as to how they should act when they face racism. THANK YOU! I mean, with all of your experience in this mater your comments are very useful.
not advice on how to act, but letting you know how the way you act looks to others
Would it matter how she responded? If she said nothing at all (which is probably how I would have responded as a black man), would racism end? Did slavery occur because of the way black people respond? Or does racism exist simple because there are evil people in the world?
I'm actually STUNNED that a magazine with supposedly college educated editors think it's ok to use the slur they used, yet the vast majority of the statements here are angered by a twitter response from a singer!
I know racism isn't over and it isn't going to just disappear, but it DOES matter how people respond in the face of racism. MLK thought it mattered, didn't he?
this was a comment I posted in reply to someone else...I am reposting this in answer to your remarks about how you are stunned that a magazine would think it's ok to write that
it's an interesting conundrum that black people face–use the negative words to take the power and sting out of them, but then risk perpetuating the use of those words by whites who hear it and think it's just slang. It's entirely hypocritical to take issue with others using words that you use yourself.
As a child, I never heard the "n" word at all. It wasn't allowed. Now I hear it everywhere. So is that a step forward or a step back?
My point being that why is it so stunning to you when these words have crept back in to the slang of the current youth, completely due to blacks themselves using it in rap lyrics and all over the entertainment industry (movies etc)? It's bound to happen.
So if someone printed an article and called your mother, daughter, or sister this then you would just keep your mouth shut and smile? STFU
I agree with you Jester.100 percent. The Dutch were just speaking the truth. All those blaks are like that. Smelly animals.
Hey Jen, crawl back into the cave where you came from...you are showing your intelligence and it is NOT a good look!!
Here is my problem with this she uses the N word in her own songs http://www.songlyrics.com/rihanna/g4l-lyrics/
I am fairly sure if I keep looking I can find her calling herself a B in her songs too
How and the rap and r&b community expect people not to use it when they call themselves and each other a N all the time?
CHECK MATE, great point. Nothing to add here, this discussion should be now closed
she can condemn someone else because white people have no right to use that word. Simple as that. Black people have struggled for over one hundred years with that ugly word and the best they could do was turn it into something that means along the lines of friend or homie. That word coming from a white person's mouth is offensive because: A Black people know about their history and being called an N word by a white person (the really ugly derogatory one) brings back that the knowledge that their great grandparents were called that as the ultimate put down. B: White people don't know what context it should be used in and it sounds offensive. I'm not saying it is okay for black people to use it, I wish it would just die, but it won't. As long as there are still racist white people that word will still exist, because black people have taken that word and turned it into a shield against the oppressions of that word. But lets get to what this is really about for a lot of people. White people don't like the idea of Black people having a word that that they can't use. Its that same as how discrimination against white people isn't racism; its REVERSE racism. Some white people think they are so special that even when they are discriminated against it can't even be the same racism as minorities. You will never understand what it means to be colored in a country built on the backs of colored people for practically nothing, then to be treated like you don't belong here. You will never get it, so stop trying to and please stop asking why black people can say this word and you can't. It's just one of those things let it go. You sound really stupid saying it and it looks like you're making fun of us
Maybe that is why Chris Brown beat her? Because of her mouth and the fact she is...well..what the Dutch said. Yup. I went there.
best thing she could have done was nothing. the worst thing she could have done was respond. the only thing she accomplished was prove that she epitomizes the slur.
I agree 100%, but "ultimate" was a bit strong of a word.
Sigh white people
Posting ignorant garbage seems to be a hobby for some people. They look for anything on CNN that mentions race and start spewing the same reverse racism, race card trash.
I'd let her call me anything she wants :D
is a wanna be gangstea. she likes to use words like n..... and bi..... but makes a big deal over it when some white person does. stop frontin go back to the subburbs
Satanic B**ch is more fitting since she worships the devil.
Do people really care what she has to say and what others say about her? Say it ain't so.
I find it interesting that a few months ago I read an article about how often Rihanna used the word "c**t" to speak to females and that she didn't know it was offensive until her makeup artist told her to stop, but now she's offended? I mean, of course, the term used in the article was completely offensive. But it's not like Rihanna doesn't sling offensive slang around all of the time (look at her twitter and see how many times she calls her friend "b!tches, for instance". Of course, there is no excuse for the article or the language used, and the contexts are different, but it just seems to me like she doesn't mind offensive language when she's slinging it out, but if someone dares refer to her in a derogatory way, LOOK OUT WORLD! Also, the end of her quote, with an "f you"? Really mature. Good job. Just my opinion!
I agree....it's an interesting conundrum that black people face–use the negative words to take the power and sting out of them, but then risk perpetuating the use of those words by whites who hear it and think it's just slang. It's entirely hypocritical to take issue with others using words that you use yourself.
As a child, I never heard the "n" word at all. It wasn't allowed. Now I hear it everywhere. So is that a step forward or a step back?
@ Interesting...I agree with you! Rihanna seems to tailor her image around shock in her music lyrics and behavior to a certain extent.
You tell 'em Rihanna....you need to smack them around like.....ooooooo....nevermind.
that's sad someone has to slur Rihanna, in order to have their voice heard. They should leave this young lady alone, as she has done nothing to anyone. My guess is that they used her as a scape goat to gain instant celebrity.
@Truth then look up your own heritage you may get a surprise.
And where was this response when she had a chance to speak against violence against women?
Her response to that was getting a gun tattooed on her neck...another classy move. She really is the worst when it comes to role models for young girls.
She's a hypocrite. She uses both words in her rubbish "music" and it's perfectly fine, but if someone uses it towards her, it's the end of the world.
The article was spot-on in describing her.
Get over yourself, wh0re-anna. People like you are the reason racism still exists.
@Observer... No, I'm pretty sure it's people like you, who Perpetuates racism....
@csanders Actually, no, it isn't people like me that keep this rubbish going. It's people like you and Wh0re-anna who do. Don't like a particular word? Don't use it yourself. Double standards much?
With her last two words in her response, she also showed no class.
Way to go Rihanna! I don't really like your music, but that's beside the point. This is supposed to be the 21st Century, and s*** like what that mag published is supposed to be a thing of the past. Your response was perfect!
It's okay if she uses it, though, right hypocrite?
Interesting that Rihanna uses this word in her latest album. She is setting a poor example, and contributing to the problem.
I could not have said it better myself....THATS RIGHT RHIANNA....=).....THEY GON GET THEIRS....I PROMISE..XOXOXOXO
And who cares about this n... b....?! ACLU?!... Please... No talent, just mediocre as...
Rihanna showed total class in representing the black race, "F" you is the greatest of come backs. Makes me side with the lady who wrote the magazine article.
ROFL what a bunch of idiots to print something like that in a magazine.
But seriously, why do black people always refer to themselves in that degrading way? I don't care if you spell it with a 'gga or a 'gger, it is what it is, and it is bad, so why do you perpetrate that on yourselves and call yourselves those sort of things?
I never refer that way even with the 3 black girls I've dated (I'm white). But I can see how someone would be confused with the term being thrown around like that all over tv, movies, and music.
You seriously dated 3 black chicks? Wow....you're my hero.
Let's be clear, I am a woman of color and I do not refer to any of my relatives, friends or even enemies as a n**** b****! Stop using the actions of some as a guidebook to judge an ethnic group. There are many behaviors that could be used to describe the characteristics of any ethnic group, but an intelligent person would be wise enough not to make such an uninformed choice! You make mention of the fact that you dated 3 women who were african american, yet you are not wise enough to put the pieces of the puzzle together to make a whole!
I know circles wher "n*****b****" is a honorific
I have way more respect for Rihanna for her comeback.
"There are 1000's of dutch girls"
I don't see the problem here, calling something what it is. She's just mad because it describes her to a T.
People all over the world view American blacks as N*****s!
I don't even know what that could stand for.
Learning to spell and use proper grammar would lend more credence to your rant.
The civilized world
B**ch pliz this is rihanna she could do whatever she wants stop hating she was tweeting not mailing a formal letter
And owen chimes in with the imbecile vote!
and he got more than 140 characters.
So RiRi can use that slang in her music, but is outraged when used against her? While it is rediculous that it was ever printed, by responding with a F*%$ Y@! is just as rediculous. I guess some people never grow up.
correct spelling – ridiculous
What song on what album did she use those two terms? All I remember is hearing Disturbia several times and What's my name a billion times.
But it is funny and it is dutch.....
Her letter would be a great argument and slap in the face if she only couldve written it in English versus text. You have money – have someone proofread it before you use "u" when accusing people of being inept with the English language. THEN verbally slap the reject that made the statement
They should have called her a HO B!TCH.
Anyone else think it's odd that Rihanna uses those exact same words in her lyrics directed at other people? Now those words are used to describe her it becomes an attack on her race? You reap what you sow, so STFU.
I posted and then read your comment. I agree with you 100%. If those words offend you, don't say them yourself! You can't expect to end racism when you are a hypocrite.
Rihanna is black!?
One drop rule....any trace of n!&&er DNA, and you're officially a full-blown n!&&er, and there truly is no hope for your enslaved soul.
wait, that was lmao at the original statement. i totally ignore the next statement which is ridiculous as well as offensive
Rihanna vs dutch magazine Jacky’s is just the tip of the ice berg. There is much more racism going on out here in the Netherlands then people in US the really know. For example: the national December 5 vistifaty called Sinterklaas en zwarte piet is a racist motived tradition of the Nederland. The help of this Sinterklaas is A white men painted in black with A afro wig called zwarte piet(Black Piet). For years the black community is protesting against this racist character and they get arrested for protesting against it. Prime Minister Mark Rutte is allowing this activities in this country because he say it’s a tradition. But what Mark Rutte really means is that’s along companies are making money we don’t care if it hurts the black comment. Mark Rutte will not apologize to the black community for the part that the Netherlands played during slavery and hey allows people getting arrested demonstrating against the racist character zwarte piet(black Piet). So I wonder will president Barak Obama really wont to visit this country as he stated during the visit of prime minster Mark Rutte of the Netherland.
You try to find too much in the Sinterklaas tradition. What else is Christmas in the US then a discriminatory motivated tradition? All those poor little elves working in the toy factory... discrimination against little people (growth challenged people or midgets if I need to say it bluntly to get you to understand). Smacks also of child labor... no-one complaining about that. I guess it is the norm in the US to focus on perceived 'racist' motivated discrimination, but to blissfully forget about the rest. And.... Christmas is just as economically engrained into US society (even more so I would say) than Sinterklaas in the Netherlands.
I read the wiki opinion of Zwarte Piet. unless its written by the dutch.... then it seems to me to be harmless. I'm black and who gives a damn about zwarte Piet? Honestly...... I have bills to pay and zwarte is not on the top of my list of important things.
Just in case anyone forgot (from Rihanna's lips to the pages):
She seems to be taking a stance indicative that the "word" is alright, as long as one says it to their "brother", and the the other choice greeting is natural as well. Wut?
In other words, she's a bloody hypocrite.
Well..all I know is that Dutch musician Jan Akkerman is the single most underrated guitarist on the planet. I grew up in the US south and bought every Focus album that ever came out and thought the guy was god himself.
what the hell does what you said have to do with anything?
Thanks to some African-American rappers and hip hop artists who use the N-word like it's going out of style, everyone around the world thinks it's okay to use this word. African-American culture and music is one of America's largest exports. All Americans need to be mindful of the image that we put out there. Nothing is ever done in a vacuum. as Black Americans, this message is even more true. Stop the self hate folks.! Pick another word to use than the N-word. There are over 171,000 words in the English language; take your pick and leave the N-word back in history where it belongs.
True true true!!!!
Uh...the ultimate what? Have no idea what "n*** B***" is supposed to mean. Way to write an aticle with no point CNN.
I am very happy to find this article, starting today I will continue to visit this website to find out your latest post. thanks a lot.
DANG! Rihanna, that response was smoking mad! Phew. You were so close to taking the high road, but then you started snaping your fingers and waiving your head back and forth and shouting, all to prove you were not what they called you. So close. and yet so far.
Also, I am deeply surprised and saddened to hear that a Dutch magazine would do this. The Netherlands is usually such a progressive place, I am shocked to learn a dutch person would debase themselves like this.
I don't think that a tweet can equate to "snapping fingers and waving hands back and forth"....perhaps that is your own perceptions based on your OWN misguided stereotypes of black women. Rihanna was angry and this is justified ...but please keep your narrow-minded stereotypes of black females to yourself...thanks!
Ever considered that the N-word is only offensive in English speaking countries?
Ever consider that we are responding from an English speaking country? Ever consider that an editor of a national magazine is expected to be worldly enough to know such a term when applied to an American singer would be deemed offensive?
Ever consider Brian that you're as ignorant as the Dutch magazine editor?
With her last two words, she displayed her lowlife status and proved that Jackie was right.
The singer's last two words don't justify the ignorance of a editor of a magazine.
Stop hating she responded she gave even until the was dam good
Rihanna's response was most appropriate, infact she showed restraint in her response.
I have not been a fan of this young girl, but I have to give her a thumbs up for her response. to this insensitive and unintelligent editor and newspaper. How can an editor of a national magazine live in 2011 and not know the term is offensive?
I'm in black 'hoods all the time and they call each other that. DOUBLE STANDARD. Do you even know what that means, ignoramus?
Interesting. Your argument suggest that because they are Black, they are right. Now that's a complete about-face.
I don't know why anyone is bothering to come to her defense ... any young woman who wears a name change "C**T" around her neck clearly has no respect for herself, so why should anyone else?
I don't know why anyone is bothering to come to her defense ... any young woman who wears a name chain "C**T" around her neck clearly has no respect for herself, so why should anyone else?
She writes worse than a 5th grader. Seriously, she sounds like a total moron.
That first word was completely uncalled for. The second...
Correct me if I'm wrong but black folks love calling each other that if not worse. It's catchy.
Okay, I'll call you wrong.
He's not wrong, JN, and the more you suck into the void of denial, the more these things will come back to bite you hard.
If black people don't like white people calling them that, then they should make the same change themselves. Otherwise, you are nothing but a hypocrite.
It amazes me.....So many Bigots hide behind blogs......They feel beckoned to show their "words" not faces when an article or reference to someone of a different race is mentioned and it creates the opportunity for them to spew hatred..which often translates to lack of education..Yes. Those with little education use racial slurs to describe how threatend and inferior they must feel......
Barnacle Bill: I disagree. It's like when someone says about him/herself: "I'm such an idiot" vs if someone else calls them "idiot". See the difference?
I'm black, and I NEVER use the "N" or the "B" word as part of my vocabulary. I don't allow my children, no anyone else in my presence to so either. People shouldn't be so quick to throw everyone into the same categories and then call themselves, enlightened.
She is a tramp, yes, and kind of disgusting. Caling her a n***** b***** is stupid. Some things you can assume everyone probably already knows, so there's no need to put it in print and get fired.
Black people below 30 normally use those words with there friends.
The kids use them like weapons on the streets to say that they are bad people and that they can do everything.
When they get older, marry and have children they start to forget what they loved to say and get into the racy caskets everytime they can.
Those words are always accepted if they are sayed by some other black... but if they are sayed by any other skin color, they are always racists. And there are many of those but they are only racist if they are spoken by white people since the black people can say them to anyone because (according to al sharpton) "there is not a single black that is racist on the world".
The Netherlands is a country with many faces. It's one where one professes freedom, tolerance and other values. The reality is however far from these truths. In a country where a national holiday figure as Sinterklaas is not accompanied by reindeers as Santa Claus, but with adolescents servants with black faces the so-called Zwarte Pieten. The tradition is thought to be regarded as a child feast, but the developing child brain sees no difference between the Zwarte Piet and colored person in society. Still this tradition is kept as it is supporting old dogmas and most Dutch colored people are brainwashed to see it as such. Are these mind tricks of the past, support a psychological scheme of power. I yet have to see the day where a man or woman with a lighter- or darker skin complexion as Obama rises to true power in the Netherlands. Where are the true Dutch thinkers and most of all Dutch people with voice?????? Your revolution, drive and action is missed! The coat of arms the Netherlands depicts the saying: Je Maintendrai (I will maintain). The choice is ours...
There's a reason they call it 'going dutch' ....cheap ba$tards...
what a classy comeback by Rihanna
no kidding-way to prove them right, Rhianna.
How do you make that cool upside-down "i"? :)
We are all doomed!!!
You do. That's why you read it an made a comment about it.
The only thing I see wrong with it is they left "Dumb" out of the sentence...
And you left it out of your name: as in Dumb Dale.
it should have said ugly too
Theres only two things in this world that I hate: people that are insensitive to other people's culture...and the Dutch
Haha ... nice ... wonder how many readers on this board know the origin of that quote ...
Isn't that actually "one" thing?
Of course, the answer is Austin Powers' Fajah in "Goldmember"
You just contradicted yourself, dummy.
I live self in the netherland, and I know how dutch people are.
they think they can say/do everything they want to say.
and black peaple been discrimenate alot
Please, dpq, improve your English. You might be Dutch, but so am I. And I do not agree at all with what you are saying. In the Netherlands, we are very liberal when it comes to freedom of speech and expression. This was definitely a (bad) joke of this innocent fashion magazine, but that's all. I am stunned that people are so easily offended by just some simple words. I would laugh about it, instead of complaining. Live and let live!
I think the problem might be that you aren't familiar with the meaning and emotions behind these words. Keeping in touch with American culture doesn't give you the same insights you might have if you live here. I think that is something some Americans might not understand themselves. They seem to think that every culture would have the same feelings about words that we do. Words that here might be seen as incredibly offensive are seen as merely mildly crass in others. And seriously EJ, leave dpq alone – if they aren't speaking english everyday they may not have the same faculty with it that you or I might.
@EJ, its easier to laugh about it since you cannot relate to it. Your statement just shows ignorance and by definition, you are a h*onk*y N***er yourself. Now try laughing that off??
I always find it amusing when people start out complaining about "reading english" when they don't even spell out words. It makes us all look unintelligent.
I always find it amusing when people complain about another person's common and acceptable forms of spelling that are perfectly understood, regardless of whether it's the correct spelling. Only an imbecile would have problems understanding Rihanna's message because of how she spells certain words.
She was on Twitter, you moron. Only allowed so much space.
Very true. Use spell check.
@JD...She used just a little more than 140 characters, don'tcha think?
Of course if she's going to destroy and warp a language, and assume people can understand her in the current vernacular, then it's a bit ironic (don't you think) that she's upset someone used the same language popular culture throws around so easily.
Word. Her English is alarming.
it isn't just her slang spellings, it's her sentence structure...that whole paragraph is a mess
Why didn't you spell out your full name "J" ? Do you see the hypocrisy here? Anyone with an ounce of brain will recognize that "U" is shorthand for "YOU". Your statements rinks of bigotry and envy, do us all a favor and just off yourself if you are unhappy with life...seriously!
You don't get his point. She points about their use of English while she make herself like another American who is lazy to spell out "you". This is not some text message she would send to her friends. Her inability to write proper English shows that either she either have bad habits, lazy, ghetto, or just wanted to emphasize the word "you".
How are you?
Doin' alright. Just workin'.
Yeah, I'm good. Making muffins. Watching Mama's Family. Usual Tuesday.
Wow, what moron thought this wasn't gonna cause a problem?
Perhaps it was someone who hangs out with black people a lot and hears them call each other the same all the time.
I do, and I do. The biggest enemy of black people are themselves.
I am a black female and highly offended by the use of such language. And by the way, my friends do not refer to each other in that manner. We do not degrade each other with such hateful terms, so whomever feels that those terms are acceptable needs to get a grip on reality. Does it make others feel superior by looking down on blacks or trying to classify them in a less than favorable manner? Stop trying to enslave us with the use of such terms. Moreover, I wish that the blacks that utilize these derogatory terms would also refrain from using these terms. As for me, I am proud to be an educated, black female!
maybe they wanted the publicity. Or maybe they planned it with her, for publicity for everyone. Its disgusting how people behave these days. degrading themselves and others.
but she is a N***** B**** !
Considering she wears a necklace that says C**t, she has no reason to act offended. But I guess when you're a wanna-be diva the truth hurts.
GTEmpress, I know not every black descendants calls each other "N" but isn't it sad that they popularize the "N" word on TV and follows throughout the younger generation as "cool". Such phrases as "N... please".
Horrible that they'd print such a thing even though its true.
hired to do her website once, she was very mean , rude, and outright a total B. Her entourage had to give excuses for her behavior. :( my fragile ego was ruined for life! Now i cant look at her without thinking of her that way. although, i do like her hair now.
I am sure her hair is a wig.
Ah ya that damn TRUTH. But alas the sociodemolibtard will be boiling the oil soon!
First, its hypocracy that if you go to a walmart that's full of blacks, you'll hear them saying "N**** B****"" to each other but they get all upset if someone else of another skin color says it to them. Makes no sense to me.
Second, if blacks don't want to be called these names then stop acting all aggressive and rude 24/7. This obviously does not apply to everyone....but most of those I encounter in my everyday life, act that way. Start acting like President Obama does (he's a gentleman) instead of acting like gangstas. Do that and you'll get respect and be admired.
inxnay, that IS her real hair. Anyway, what does that have to do with this story?
And I guess this i true because you know her personally? Whats the address where she lives? What color is her room? You know so much about her personal life right? Or is it just your 2 cents opinon which is NOT a fact?....who are you? you are a nobody trying to be a somebody
So Jerry, she is a certified beaatch from your experience.
Give it to 'em queen,now you will be bombarded with hate from some of your fellow Americans.Is why the Dutch and most everyone else
in other parts of the world feels like they can treat us like sh!t.
Actually she's from Barbados . . .
ACTUALLY, she's from England...
Rihanna was born Robyn Rihanna Fenty on February 20, 1988, in Saint Michael, Barbados, to Monica Braithwaite, a retired accountant, and Ronald Fenty, a warehouse supervisor for a garment factory. Her mother, a native of Guyana, is Afro-Guyanese, and her father is of Barbadian and Irish descent. The famous wiki says.
On behalf of her race? Unfortunately, she can't talk because if she sees her people as a "race" rather than people descended from ancestors...then she has no right to get upset over this. I'm sure she uses the word all the time. Calls people her n words and what not. But of course, when someone else tries to define them as one...they get all upset. I guess that makes sense. However, grow up and get over it. sticks and stones you baby face.
She herself wears a necklace that says c * n t. I think that's pretty appalling. I wish she behaved more respectably, in which case, she might earn some respect. As she is, she just invites people to think the worst of her, and women.
when did this race start? and why were the whites not told about it
Well, you sure proved them wrong, Rihanna. You had someone write your response (yeah, I'm sure the word "abasement" just rolls off your tongue everyday) and then topped it with a "classy" response. By the way, it's Y-O-U. Not "u". That's of course, if you can read English. (note the capital E)
Earning respect is one thing, but she did not earn degrading trash talk.
That belongs to men's locker rooms.
@Dan, i believe you are so darn stupid, you don't even know it. Anyone with an ounce of a brain will know "U" is shorthand for "You". Please take your envy and jealousy somewhere else. The world can do without ur' likes. UR' ==YOUR, in case you are wondering.
Who cares? Fastforward 15 years and Rhinana might as well have never been born. She will be forgotten. Just another American tramp who makes up for no talent by shakin' her ass. It is embarassing that girls (she ain't no woman) like her or Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian are "stars." She doesn't sing that well and she looks like a space alien with her big head, two foot long neck and butt as big as a house.
If the word wasn't so enthusiastically kept alive by the very people who find it offensive, it probably wouldn't be used as a term of endearment by other races, as it was in this case. Just my TCW
that bit*h needs another azz whoopin
So, from what I have read Rihanna is a certified beaatch, is that why Chris Brown lost his temper due to her excessive beaatchiness.
ACTUALLY SHE'S A STUPID N**** B****!
Wow, she really showed them, huh? Rihanna is clearly a classy, educated, intelligent woman, right? Bull. Rihanna SAYS the N-word in her own music. Her own music is full of mind-numbingly ignorant, racist, low-brow lyrics. I can't wait for Rihanna and everyone like her to simply fall off the face of the planet.
Truth is a complete defense to defamation. Even in the Netherlands. It just so happens that the headline is accurate. Lets see her lawyers fight this one out, my money is on the magazine.
@nik... You fall off the face of the earth first... And then we will be good.
Wow I thought the eurotrash was so enlightened and only bigots lived in the uSA. Whoda thunk it?????
Led Zeppelin + REM + Depeche Mode = 0 number 1 hits.
Rihanna has had 10.
People are idiots.
deplorable! however, I wonder if she sent the same email to US rappers who those words in almost every rap song....
I'm confused ... are there two Rhianna's? One site says she's Robyn Rhianna Fenty born 2/20/1988 in Barbardos; one says her name is Robyn Hannah Louise Kenny born 1/7/1983 in Leeds, Englands. Both say she is an R&B artist.
her song S&M says it all......
I think the word should not be used at all. I am, however, much more disappointed when I hear black people use the word than I will ever be when whites use it. Shows an absolute disrespect for those who fought and lost so much so that the word (and its power) should be no more. To have it resuscitated by those who need it least is so poor and will make what happened here much more likely, that the word is now thought to be a common 'cultural' word.
I hope Rhianna keeps this stance with her fellow musicians.
WTG Rhianna you sound like N*** B****
That rteply was written for Rihanna. I do not think she canwrite this well. Now i wait for for merciless reply from readers.
I feel it's inappropriate to print that kind of language to label somebody and then after you get caught, it's now claimed to be a joke... that in its self is in poor taste... regardless of how it's being used in the streets, that shouldn’t be the excuse to use in a so called professional magazine or newspapers to make a point about a person.
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