You can add Robert Downey Jr. to the list of celebs who are standing by embattled actor Mel Gibson.
Downey turned his acceptance speech at Friday's American Cinematheque Award ceremony into an opportunity to ask those in the industry to extend some forgiveness toward Gibson, according to The Wrap.
After Gibson handed Downey his award, the "Iron Man" star encouraged the audience "to forgive my friend his trespasses. Allow him to pursue his art without shame."
Gibson's history at this point is arguably larger than the actor himself. He pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor battery charge earlier this year, and has been accused of anti-Semitic comments and other racist remarks. When word spread that he was taking on the story of Judah Maccabee, it drew healthy criticism.
But, Downey told the audience gathered at the awards event, "Unless you are without sin - and if you are, you are in the wrong f--g industry - you should forgive him and let him work," reports Us Weekly.
According to the Detroit Free Press, Downey, who starred with Gibson in 1990's "Air America," didn't stop there.
"Mel and I have the same lawyer, same publicist, and same shrink. I couldn't get hired, and he cast me. He said if I accepted responsibility - he called it hugging a cactus - long enough, my life would take meaning. And if he helped me, I would help the next guy....[Gibson's] hugged the cactus long enough."
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jodie foster's another one...duhhhh jodie we know he's a great actor but what ruins it is that he doesn't shut up about his personal dopey logic that nobody cares about, if he shuts up and does his work..then maybe everyone will watch the acting...i'm jodie foster..booohooohoo i love mel he's a great actor whine whine whine...jodie? shut up.
jodie foster's another one...duhhhh jodie we know he's a great actor but what ruins it is that he doesn't shut up about his personal dopey logic that nobody cares about, then maybe everyone will watch the acting...i'm jodie foster..booohooohoo i live mel he's a great actor whine whine whine...jodie? shut up.
What would Jesus do? He would forgive. For if you forgive others for their transgressions, your heavnely Father will also forgive you. Mathew 6:14
I FORGIVE YOU MEL!! We all do stupid things when we are wasted, some worse than others, and should be forgiven if we are truly sorry. I believe you are and just because our parents believe something does not mean the children believe them. It has been long enough and I love his movies anyway! time for more!
I think Mel Gibson is a complete and utter jerk. That is his right to be that way. It is between him and this friends and family as to how they respond to his jerkiness. It is my right not to enable behavior I consider beyond the pale by not providing my money to support him through going to see his movies or buying them on DVD. He can continue to be a jerk. He can continue to make movies. He just won`t get my money. If enough people feel like I do then that makes him a pariah to Hollywood which expects to make money off bankable stars. If he is no longer able to bring in the movie goers than they are not going to hire or back him.
It's pure hilarity watching all these people line up playing the victim.
I thought Mel was very good in 'The Beaver'. No matter what, I think he's a good actor and I've enjoyed many of his movies. RDJ turned his life around and appreciated that Gibson gave him a chance when no one else would. Nice to see him sticking up for his friend.
what should we forgive him for. lets pick. we could forgive him for the beating up his girlfriend, we could forgive him for his anti-semetic slurs, we could also forgive him for drunk driving oh and then there is that church of his, we could also forgive him for his anti-gay remarks made in an interview several years ago. gosh we have such a list to forgive. i don't know where to start. robert downey jr. deserves alot of praise for turning his life around from the self-destruction that plagued him for years. but mr. gibson seems to have a history of being a mean and hurtful person with no regretsfor his words and actions at least not as far as the public knows. mr. gibson will deserve forgivness when he proves he is truly sorry for his actions and changes his ways
Lets see how hypocritical Hollywood is after the prejudice rants made by Susan Surandon towards the pope!
Robert Downey is a better person than I, but I have no intentions of ever forgiving Mel or see any of his movies.
His behaviour made it very clear that he is a mean, disrespectful and foul mouthed person who meant ever foul word he uttered.
I'm curious as to why Downey thinks Gibson a chance since Gibson clearly didnt learn from his prior mistakes after he was forgiven them.
Sorry Mel, like it or not the "image" you have created for yourself is not positive. Your success at the box office is affected by public opinion and no one wants to take a chance on you. And unfortunately you are not a great actor, so being likable could have helped your career.
Whoever promised us that we get to go through life without ever being offended or having our feelings hurt. I don't agree with views expressed by others. but it's time to stop sitting in judgement and let Mel move on. We all need to move and stop beating a dead horse.
I'm sorry but what kind of person gets drunk and starts yelling about Jews? Robert Downey: Don't press your luck, Dude. The only reason your career recovered at all was because of your humility, and you just called that into question. Yes, we know you all think you're better than us. But you're supposed to keep that among yourselves.
I agree Mel is a result of his parents upbringing and many peoples parents did not do a great job. ALL of our sports heros in all sports (especially baseball, football and basketball) are supposed to be role models and we all know what many of them had done from domestic violence, drugs, dog fighting, etc yet we all still continue to pay extreme prices to go see them. How many kids have taken the wrong path as a result of these POOR role models. Time to forgive and let the man have a chance to redeem himself.
To be forgiven in this life, one must learn to forgive others.
I don't care what Mel has said or done. He's still a great actor and director. I just wish his people would tell him he needs to get his teeth whitened.
teeth whitened and mel..once and for all shut up.
He's spewed vitriol about virtually everyon and means it. As a result, we've no interest in seeing any movie he's in and haven't for at least a decade now. Others can support him, and that's their choice.
i watched robert downey jr compliment mel while he received his award and mel still looked like he wanted to punch robert in the face...mel...shut up
Well, its nice to see that ignorance and stupidity are alive and well and flurishing on this site.
I still enjoy watching the Road Warrior, all the Lethal Weapon movies, Braveheart, Signs, and several other films with Mel Gibson. Yes, his personal life has made huge news over the past however many years, but I do not hold that against him if I watch one of his movies.
It's always surprised me that Mel's drunken actions are so unforgiveable, but Alec Baldwin's sober actions aren't. Alec Baldwin verbally abused his wife until she left him, then was caught on tape verbally abusing his daughter. Mel, drunkenly, says mean anti-semitic things and his outcast. Either they both need to be given a second chance or both dumped.
Alec Baldwin is another big mouth who needs to shut up also...that's a whole other topic.
Let him work??? Let him retire
he looks 70
RDJ – one drunk helping another
ACCUSED of anti-Semitic and racist comments?!? And this is a news organization?
Forgive Mel Gibson for what–not being in a decent film in a long time. At least his rantings and ravings got him in the public eye. He's been done for quite some time now.
I'll forgive him if he does "Mad Max 4." I loved those movies.
I agree have you seen the interview?? I've seen it posted at CELEBUR.COM the video is still up i think.
If you thought the above article was a hoot, wait 'til you get a load of the comments from all the enlightened, politically correct metro-bigots below.
to all of you perfect people out there, GET OVER IT! if he thinks JEWS are controlling Hollywood, that's his business. God only knows what's in each person's heart and mind. the beating part , is completely unacceptable!
How many of us have forgiven Robert Downey Jr. for his drug use and lousy movies?
The worst part of this hypocrite is that OMG, he espoused what a great catholic christian he was, how he built a church on his estate and only in Latin were his sessions held. How anyone can say that with a straight face (oh, I forgot he is an actor) when inside he has this hate for Jews, gays and women. This bigot and his even bigger bigot father should leave this country and go back to Australia and never come back. Good riddance. As for Downey, just because he gave you a job when know one else in Hollywood would is no excuse for people to forgive this bigot.
Well, as a christian catholic he should slam gays, don't you think ? On the other hand, he doesn't hate women, he hates Oskana, and she actually deserved a kick in the face, not just a slap. But then again, that is his personal life and doesn't concert you nor the public. Also, a lot of people hate gays and disrespect women even more (Charlie Sheen, i'm looking at you !), and get away with it, people even think they're funny.
i agree with rob. let him be, other things out there are far worse.
So, let's see . . . . Hollywood wets itself to work for Roman Polanski – convicted pedophile and fugitive, but shudders at the thought of working with Mel Gibson.
Well said... and Kanye West, and Chris Brown, and Woody Allen, and Charlie Sheen... etc etc, they all get a pass.
Why should anyone forgive Mel Gibson? He made his own bed with his own remarks and his own anti-semitism and his own drunkeness and his own total lack of respect for women. He left his own wife with his 7 children. Sorry, Robert Downey Jr., your plea for people to forgive that creep just makes me like YOU less.
It's interesting, though, that Downey was so sensitive/offended at last year's otherwise dull butt-kissing celebfest Golden Globes when Ricky Gervais was making funny and totally appropriate jokes about Hollywood and their near-constant stints of rehab, exhaustion, and similar silliness.
When Mel forgives the Jews for all their imaginary transgressions, the rest of us will consider forgiving his real transgressions. To think the order should be reversed is the height of hypocrisy.
give me a break...one hollywood narcissist coming to the aid of another xenophobic hater.
these people are sooooo sanctimonious...they make gobs of money, pay few taxes, and cheat on their wives and partners all day long...and they're supposed to be our moral beacons? give me a break.
screw mel...he's a loathsome jew hater...which at the end of the day, is just another form of racism...you think he's reformed? I dont...
OMG you are so right. I can't believe there is anybody left on earth who doesn't totally see through this constant spew of b.s.
I can't find alot of sympathy for him. If any of us work in a company/firm/business, which is dominated by a particular group (e.g., christian/jews, black. hispanic, italian), and we make derogoatory statements about that group, you would likely experience negative consequences. Gibson works in Hollywood; made insulting statements about jews. Jews hold powerful positions within that industry. He'll have to deal with the repercussions, however fair or unfair, they may seem. We could argue about how getting blacklisted is unfair, but in the end, don't bite the hand that feeds you, and you should be OK. He just had to run his mouth...
No way am I forgiving this guy without a sincere deep hearted true apology with convincing understanding for all he has done wrong to women and the jewish community. Forgive him cause Robert says to, I like RDJ but no way!
He was melting my heart until I came to this: "Mel and I have the same lawyer."
Gibson should crucify himself to a cross and die. I'd like to see him rise on the third day.
I like you Mr. Downey, don't get involved in trying to save a fanatic.
I think Downy made an appropriate plea on behalf of a man who has contributed a great deal to the history of movie making and likely has much more to offer. His comments about the Jews may have been inappropriate but deep down, most of us are prejudice to a degree and though we don't say things, a lot of us think them. I s it just the way it is like it or not.
Whatever your own personal prejudices, would you be so full of hatred and drunkenness that your first reaction would be to spill your hatred of Jews, women, etc., etc.? Everyone has their own little prejudices, but Gibson's prejudices were the first things out of his nasty drunken mouth. That kind of hatred doesn't just come out of nowhere. Forgive him if you want, but I don't give him (or anyone other bigot) that much credence. He's just another creep, a rich and famous creep, but a creep nonetheless.
Anyone who wants to forgive him–should-–but he still should never work again. You can forgive Hitler also,
but would you have given him his job back?
Let Gibson live on a Kibbutz for a year, plant a tree in Israel in his father's name,then convert to Judism and prepare for his Bar Mitzvah, and then I'll think about forgiving him. Maybe the victims of the Holocaust can forgive him.
Mel Gibson has shown a consistent trend over the years re. his views on the Jewish community. He is plainly and simply a bigot. We should all just accept him as an excellent actor as is Robert Downey and nothing else. Actors should know their place in society. They should just act and otherwise shut up unless they have something good to contribute. Basically they are all a bunch of overpaid brats that have not grown up in the real world.
i agree..that's why if he picks up a script, put down those jack daniels and finally keeps quiet and does his work..we will give him another shot..
You all need to pull your heads out RDJ was not asking the public to forgive Mel. He was talking to the industry. I dont know where you all thought you have the right to forgive him whether he shows he has redeemed himself publicly or privately. This is not your place nor will it ever be. If your offended by his gay or anti sematic rants then YOU need help in tolerance. You want someone to have tolerance of your beliefs or lifestyle you should show some so you can be accepted.
The character of people on this comment chain is just putrid, ESPECIALLY from most of the Christians. I'm intelligent enough to realize that all Gods are false, but you can't even leave the judgement and forgiveness up to your own God, you're doing his work for him....
Your comment is anti-Christian and anti-religion ! everybody should hate you now ! everybody will wait for your apology and the site managers will erase your comment ! ... oh wait, the site owners are jew, so they don't care, and you're a nobody, so no one cares either...
Time for us to stop judging people we really don't know on things that are inflated in the press and expose their private life.
He settled with the woman. He paid for his crimes and DUI's. He is working again. The thing is that is all his private business, only made public by his fame. Not one person posting in this forum can say they have never had an altercation, fight, or bigoted opinion of someone at some point. The difference is we are allowed to go back to work and get on with our lives.
Just because he is famous is no reason to crucify him longer than any normal person. If you are still smarting over some BS he said when either A)drunk or B)on a private phone line you were never supposed to hear, perhaps it is time you look in the mirror and wonder why you are so absurdly sensitive. Drunks say stupid things. YOU have said things in private you would NEVER want heard in public.
Move on. Go watch a movie. Grow up.
I'm a good selective christian and I forgive you!
Mr. Gibson had some good roles, but I haven't seen anything I liked out of him in awhile. Actors/actresses who are too much in the public eye showing their bad sides really get in the way of me enjoying their movies. There are loads of talented actors; they may as well have a chance and let these idiots fall by the wayside. They can take other jobs; there are a lot of people who have to switch careers midstream.
we all accept Charlie Sheen and so does the industry. so why cant we accept Mel Gibson?
I'll NEVER forgive him but he should be allowed to work ONLY if he donates every cent he makes to the Anti-Defamation League. Mel, put your money where your bigoted drunken mouth is. To the moron who says he hasn't harmed people get a brain. This kind of bigotry does and has contributed to many deaths of innocent people. BTW, isn't it time to get religion out of Hollywood and Politics?.
Naturally Downey would want his buddy forgiven: They're a pair of 'boozer-losers'! The fact that after making an ass of yourself for years, you finally pulled your head out of the bottle only means that you're now almost as grown up as the people who never sank that low in the first place. You're rich, you're talented, now if you could only add to that list "YOU'RE A MAN"!
Heck I forgave him along time ago, he is a great actor and has done much less than others in his trade.... if you can forgive Kanye West after what he did.
Hell, everybody forgave Chris Brown ! why did he get a pass and a pat on the back ? we actually saw Rihanna's pictures.
Mad Max shouldn't be beating on women ever...the other stuff, he's exactly right!
From whut I understand. Rober Downey Jr. was hurting himself and loved ones and people wanted to help him get right and back to work. Mel Gibson on the other hand is a racist who drinks too much and treat women like crap. Now the Jews run Hollywood and the public has an opinion and if then don't go to these films or anything Mel Gibson, then there is nothing he can do but go back home and think about something else not in the media. I know I'm not interested iin anything with Mel Gibson. Read the signs. To risque to hire him for anything to make a profit Look at his recent other projects that didn't do anything out there. I'm Black and don't like him either. And beating on women is just wrong.
drinking, hitting women that big mouth...please...he needs to just shut up.
I love, love, love Robert Downey, Jr. and I'm so glad he's gotten his life back on track. I have no opinion about Mel, really. I didn't know he wasn't being "allowed" to work, but I guess it makes sense with all the powerful Jewish people in that industry. He seems to have bitten the hand that feeds him.
mel can "pursue his art" until the cows come home. Just let him do it on his own dime. If 'art' is what he's interested in, it shouldn't matter to him if he makes $$$ off it or not. Art for art's sake and all that. What he really wants is for us to finance him while he "pursues his art". Sorry, dude.
Yeah!!! Shut up Mel!!!
I'LL GIVE HIM A CHANCE AGAIN..AS LONG AS HE SHUTS UP.
i agree with the other reviewers...MEL? SHUT UP
to robert downey jr.....we want to forgive him but he never shuts up...mel? shut up.
oh yeah and I'm sure peeps on here never bad mouthed another religion , give me a break hypocrite
i agree with gina...Mel? just shut up.
...so Goo0d 'Ol Boy Mel likes to drink and get out of hand now and then ;) ... We all have our weaknesses! As long as he says he's "sorry," (after each and every episode) what's the harm? Mind your own business people!!!!
he does not have to apologize he just needs to do what others are saying....just shut up mel
he needs to do his job and just shut up. enough of that big mouth of his. that's it...when he reads our reviews he'll come up with some big mouth excuse ...Mel? get to work and shut up.
I never cared what Gibson said in the first place. What, I haven't made mistakes in my life? YOU haven't made mistakes in yours? Please. Stop judging and giving a crap what people say and do. We all have our faults. Mel's a great actor.
I think Mel was right when he said Israel was over reaching and excessive force, my friends said the same. He may have low form dementia when talking on the phone, but once again I also have seen white went ballistic and wish I had not said what I said. The long and short if you take his good points verse his bad I'm sure it would be 7 out of 10 in favour of a decent humanist...He also helped Britney get back on track!
When will people begin to understand that alcohol addiction is no different than addiction to cocaine, heroine, meth, crack, etc. etc. etc.? To the folks on here who say they're alcoholics and would never become a racist under the influence, good for you. You are not Mel Gibson. My husband is an alcoholic who has twice fallen into the trap of, "I can just have one drink" since we've been married. It is a very easy trap to fall into when you've been sober for a while. Not only does he become delusional, he becomes belligerent and hostile and says all sorts of things that he does not mean, the vast majority of which he must be reminded of the next day. He is a completely different person when he's drunk in thought, personality, and action. Alcohol is a terrible DRUG, and it influences people to do things they normally would never do. Do I think what Mel Gibson said WHILE DRUNK was terrible? Absolutely. Should he be driven off projects years later by holier-than-thou actors who don't understand how terrible alcoholism is? No. As Robert Downey Jr. so rightly pointed out, NO ONE in Hollywood is perfect. People in glass houses and all that.
Why does Mel need forgiveness? His personal business is none of ours, it's unfortunate celebrities have no privacy and their business is plastered all over the internet and world wide media. I'm sure most of you have also have had moments you regret with someone, heated argument, throwing things, shoving, name calling, etc., but YOURS isn't plastered all over the world for all to know about. Stop being hypocrites, you all are far from perfect, everyone has also has thoughts of racisim, I don't care what color or race you are, we've all had out moments and you're lying if you say you haven't, again yours wasn't a drunken moment plastered all over the world for all to know about. Get off your high horses, Mel is human as you all are too, none of us are perfect, he's basically a very good man and makes good movies, move on.
IT IS MY BUSINESS...I PAID TO SEE HIS MOVIES. I FORGIVE HIM BUT HE NEEDS TO START READING NEW SCRIPTS AND JUST SHUT UP.
i agree he is a putz, most drunks are... but he's been an serious alcoholic for years...i think we can pull it back and give him another chance. when he's sober, he's truly a great actor. i said one more shot for Mel.
Robert Downey Jr. is a great actor also...but he's a putz also
Any person on this planet who haven't said a racist remark please throw the first stone. And, the Jews and Israelis can't thrown any stone, that is for sure. So please, let's forgive to all of us before we point the finger at anybody else. There is something I just can't stand, hypocrisy and Hollywood is full of that.
Mr. Downey is not so long out of the penetentiary to afford aligning himself with Mel Gibson. The viewing public is fickle and will turn on him quickly and summarily if he isn't more selective about the company he keeps.
...a funky before they'll forgive a bigot.
I'm sorry, I thought we had the freedom of speach? I guess we can only speak our thoughts IF we argree with the mass eh? Wife beating? oh come on, after 30 years of being a cop I can tell you I saw many woman push their husbands further than any man would just to see if they'd get hit. If you don't wanna get hit learn when to stop pushing and the same goes for men.
30 years working as a cop? How many donuts have you consumed lifetime?
What a moron – those guys who hit woman know where the front door is. If they are too weak to control themselves, they need to walk out it. You must have been a lousy cop because you sound like a lousy human being.
Err... so we should let him off the "hook" because over 30 year of being a cop you saw more women beat their husbands than visa versa? With rationalization abilities like that... Thank god you're now retired.
I don't know if Mel Gibson can be forgiven. After all, he did criticize the anointed ones.
Mel is a putz
The anointed ones?? Is that a reference to G-d's chosen people you jealous twit?
Chris is a putz.
as long as he shuts up...i think we can give him 1 more chance.
Coming from Downy this means nothing to me. Downy Jr. used to be one of my favorite actors and I am happy he is making somewhat of a come back and I hope he has learned from his mistakes. I don't need to forgive Gibson, what he did has no bearing on me other then proving he has alot to learn and needs to stop hurting people. Has anyone thought how his children are affecting in all this? So what if you have the same lawyer, shrink and he hired him? What point is that to make? I never did like Gibson as an actor anyway and he thinks way too much of himself. He needs to be humbled a bit and that won't happen till he grows up.
Yes we can forgive him but hire him or support him, sorry he needs to earn that respect now. Where is the penance? What has he done to show true contrition? Mea Culpas, politically correct speeches inspired by monetary gain, do not count. His heinous actions speak much louder than his penance. When he shows contrition in his heart by doing deeds worthy of my respect then he will get it. Until then I will continue to boycott his movies.
Go to Central America, you'll see what he has done for penance. Ask around.
WONDER WHATS WRONG WITH BEING A DRUNK/BIGOT??????? PROBABLY WORE RATIONAL THAN STRAIGHT POLITICAL CORRECT NIMRODS
The fact that he needs to be granted "forgiveness" from a money-making industry, is laughable on the face of it. But, I will personally "forgive" Mel Gibson, if Hollywood grants "forgiveness" on actor Isaiah Washington first. He's been pretty much absence from the movie scene since the misunderstanding over the derogatory word that he used back in 2007, I believe. Though, he seems to have come through that scenario a better person and more content & fulfilled in his life ever since. However, being the selfish person that I am, I rather see Mr. Washington showing us that on the big screen. Even though, it seems that hollywood already has their "new" Isaiah Washington. Can you say Idris Elba. It happens in music all the time...find a REPLACEMENT. Mel Gibson, I think your replacement has already been found and you have crossed the line one too many times. Work out your issues, but, not in front or behind a camera. Thanks and goodnight...
Everyone has their demons to fight, it's just that the rest of us get to fight ours in private. Gibson's personal problems are different than his job. Even though his remarks were inappropriate, Hollywood should make more of an effort to be the bigger man, accept his apologies and move forward.
Apology? I ain't heard no stinkin' apology. Maybe that's the problem. He doesn't think he's done anything worth apologizing for to the folks he wronged. No contest is NOT an apology. Get real!
Those who can't forgive do not love themselves. Have a very nice day!
need I say more................
I WILL FORGIVE HIM..AS LONG AS HE FINALLY SHUTS UP.
Mel is a very good actor, and a total doozchebag.
When he was younger,all he talked about was his wife and kids,he was happy.But seems like when he walked away from that his life fell apart,ego,drinking,I don't know.That second woman obviously ticked him off so bad so she could tape him in the phone conversation,but he screwed up marrying her. I wish he would get his life together,back with his family,him and RDJ are my favorite actors. I love both these guys,but they sure have big egos. LOL
Married? He NEVER married the second woman as you call Oskana, he was stupid and didn't wear a condom and got her pregnant and they have a kid, but he never married her, at least he's not THAT stupid. He needs to get himself "fixed" so he can't get anyone pregnant again, I think 8 or 9 kids are enough.
Living together without the benefit of marriage (not to mention having a "love child.) Isn't that against the rules laid down in his (conservative) Catholic Bible. Oop's, one more sin to repent...
Jews have conditioned us to see anti-Semitism but to ignore Jews' own discrimination against non-Jews, or Jews' race-based knee-jerk support of other Jews and the current racist and theocratic State of Israel. Hollywood's discrimination against Mel Gibson demonstrates that Jews control Hollywood to an unhealthy degree and that some Jews are hypocritically displaying racism themselves.
Racism is not good, and is not made better by Jewish racism.
You are quire the idiot. ISrael is no more a theocracy than the US. To understand what a real theocracy is, look at Iran where they are about to put a Xtian to death for converting Muslims to Xtianity.
No wonder you are upset with the term anti-semitism. You juts might be one.
I like Mel Gibson He's a good actor and i've enjoyed his movies. EVERYONE makes mistakes. He's paid his dues, so let him make some movies.
"Mistakes" are one thing. Patterns of thought that were ingrained into you psyche since you were a child is something else. Hating groups of people isn't a "mistake."
"We hold these truths to be self evident, all men are created equal", each an individual free of whatever sins his father may have committed. What his father believed is irrelevant, this is the USA.
I'll choose Mel Gibson over Zach Galifianakis every time. I can't believe that guy spoke out against Gibson. It'll come to him in time.
Mel has been working on his issues. He has a few TOO many for his rehabilitation to be swift.
By definition, he deserves forgiveness. He needs many many more acts of contrition before he should be welcomed with open arms.
Mr. Downey also rehabilitated himself and to his credit has emerged a much better person. BUT primarily, his sins were against himself. Mr. Gibson, OTOH, has poured hatred upon others and visited naked agression on his ex-wife. These are sins commited against others and therefore require more work on his part to regain trust.
Some of us may have said and done much worse things about people without being drunk. And as far as his personal life.... he's not the first actor/celebrity/PERSON to cheat on his wife and leave her for a nutjob. .... and Edge of Darkness was a GREAT movie.
The difference is – this 'forgiveness' comes with you & me supporting him financially. Not the same as when the drunk in the neighborhood pub lets the booze loosen his tongue.
Mel has been my favorite star for years. He isn't anymore and it was wrong to judge him as all of us have make mistakes. It is not up to me to forgive him it is up to his friends and family. People that actually know him. I will still go to his movies as long as they are good.
EVEN THOUGH Mel Gibson's drunken anti-Semite ramblings were terrible and unacceptable, you have to remember that this is a man who has also struggled with addiction himself i.e. alcohol. And also, if he has this many supporters behind him, supporters who are well-respected in a community that is very diverse, how terrible can he really be? Maybe we need to take a step back from our harsh judgments, and consider the opinions of those who might actually know him a lot better than we do.
BoB says: "
EVEN THOUGH Mel Gibson's drunken anti-Semite ramblings were terrible and unacceptable, you have to remember that this is a man who has also struggled with addiction himself i.e. alcohol."
I am an addict. I never spouted heart felt hatred for anyone other than the bartender that cut me off. You do not drink to much, and become racist. You drink to much, and say what you feel and think when you shouldn't.
When will people stop thinking that if you can play sports or act well, that makes you such a great person? This guy is an anti-sematic jerk. If his friends and family want to go see his films, fine. I refust to support someone with his views. And, if you're gay or a Jew, he hates you.
If any of Gibson's future projects make alot of money, he'll be forgiven. Money is the god of Hollywood.
Mel Gibson needs to be hugging that cactus for the rest of his life, stop making films and get all the help he can, prove he is a reformed human being with some sense of empathy, a lot more kindess and understanding and then (only then) would I forgive him – but I will never watch another one of his films.
Thanks Robert Downey Jr. you keep rising in esteem as far as I am concerned. I like the movies Gibson has made and been in, and agree he does not deserve to be blackballed forever for a few mis-steps.
For those who cannot ever see past those mis-steps, you should consult the religion or writings regarding forgiveness you all claim to be such devout followers of.... there are those that walk the talk, other just talk.....
Amen Miguel. I enjoy Gibson's movies, and like Mr Downey said.... those with out sin....... Yes the man has made mistakes and poor judgement... but he deserves forgiveness just as much as anyone else.
Excuse me – first a person needs to repent, then comes forgiveness.... No repentance from mel anywhere I've seen. Downey may have slipped more than once on his way to straightening out his life, but it was obvious he kept striving toward that goal. The melster does no such thing..... it isn't the public's place to 'forgive' – just to decide if they want to continue to finance him.
Mel doesn't have to repent to you or the public. I'm sure he's repented a 1000 times to whom he needs to repent.
HE HAS TO LEARN TO SHUT UP..THEN HE'LL BE FORGIVEN
derrrrr. You're 'sure'. You're 'sure'. You're as dumb as a box of rocks.
@Rocky: He's a very, very traditional, Roman Catholic. He follows a stricter interpretation of the faith than the contemporary Vatican.
Rocky - I might be as dumb as A Box of Rocks (LOL) but we both obviously have less hate than you since we can respond without personal insults. I hope you are able to look inside yourself and make a positive change. Everyone around you will appreciate it.
Rocky — I might be as dumb as A Box of Rocks (LOL) but we both obviously have less hate than you since we can respond without personal insults. I hope you are able to look inside yourself and make a positive change. Everyone around you will appreciate it.
This pains me, because Gibson is a pretty good director and a very, very good actor. I just can't get past the crap he lets come out of his mouth. I wouldn't prevent him from working, but I want to part of it.
Mel is very skilled at playing crazy people.
Forgiveness is a show in character.. I love Mel.. his heart is limitless.. he does so much good.. lets embrace him and bring him back to us. We all falter, we all fail sometimes.. Did you ever say Im sorry? and mean it? Lets take Mel back and he will give back to us what he does best. He will bring us wonderufl moments on film. He will bring us joy.. lets bring him back to what he does best.. Love people, love his art, Love Mel.. he would rescue you if you needed rescuing. He will give when you have nothing.. Trust in him.. his heart and soul are visible in what he has done. His transgressions are fewer than his merit.. I will always love Mel.. from someone who has said Im sorry, more times than I ever wanted to, but when forgiveness is given, we try harder the next time to be better.. please.....
Wow. What a wonderful world you live in! News flash for you: He's a bigot who hates gays and Jews. If he quits drinking, he'll still be a bigot that hates gays and Jews. I'll have no part in supporting someone like this.
I believe "RightSaidFred" put it quite succinctly...
...an israeli conspiracy against Mel. He knows they orchestrated 9/11 and they're just trying to discredit him. The woman he supposedly beat up is really a Mossed agent. Come on people, it's obvious what's going on here.
Just because his father is anti-semetic doesn't mean Mel is. If those of you who claim he's a wife punching bigot have kept up with things...you'd know he NEVER punched his wife (Robyn), and the woman who claimed he abused her recanted her statement about being punched...and has had her credibility put into question in many ways when she's been caught in flat-out lies. Mel admitted to one open-handed slap to try to snap her out of a hysteria and protect his daughter...that's it, one slap. Is it right to hit someone, not typically...but what he did was in an attempt to snap her out of irrational behavior to protect his daughter, even the judge acknowledged that. He was married to his wife for over 20 years and never struck her.
He has helped more people, done more good...yes, he's made comments he's apologized for when drunk. The man has admitted he is an alcoholic and is seeking treatment...but for you to forgive him is just too much. Sad, sad people.
You left out his antisemitic rant to the police officer. Hard to blame that on his wife or his daddy. And no, it's not okay to hit someone, whether you want to write it off as an open-handed slap or one time. It is not justified - ever. You pretty much discredited yourself entirely with that comment.
@LH: yeah, I've seen black people insult white officers all the time, nobody cares. He was drunk and said things he shouldn't have, and the police was quick in showing off what he said. You think there aren't a lot of people who actually think the same ? you're in for a rude awakening ! But it is not a Jew thing, I see lots of anti Muslim, anti Christian and anti religion slurs all the time, and no one goes out crying about it, and these come from people that aren't even drunk.
Everyone in Hollywood was fast to condemn the Passion as antisemitic, yet, no one banned the daVinci Code or Angels and Demons, did they ? No one said don't watch it because it is anti catholic, except the Church, but in Hollywood no one cared. Even if they did, I'm a catholic and went to see both movies, because I'm open minded. How many jews went to see The Passion ?
LH i'm happy that you've never been with someone that didn't deserve a good slap. But OH YEAH BABY can it be justified, I hope you never have to slap someone.
When I read the headline I was really disturbed. I feel he's said and done things that we as apublic should not condone by supporting his career. Then I read the article and understood the context of RDJ's statment. He's just being a friend to someone who was a friend to him. I will still never knowningly watch any movie Mell Gibson is any part of. I think he is a disgusting person and I don't care how long he "hugs a cactus" his years long repeated display of racistism, bigotry and mysogony is not something I can over look.
oooooh, boooo hoooooo ! crybaby ! Mel Gibson has done more charity than you'll ever do.
Mel Gibson's not a wife beater. He's a card carrying member of the slapahoe tribe, when he figured out his GIRLFRIEND was a golddigging hobag, he went to his happy place.
@trufax, so if a woman is a "golddigging hobag" in your view, it's okay for a man to hit her? Seriously?
Hmmm...what happened to tolerance ya bigots.
I'd forgive him for being an anti-Semitic, wife-punching bigot if only he'd stop being such an anti-Semitic, wife-punching bigot. Actually, he's an actor – all he has to do is ACT like he isn't an anti-Semitic, wife-punching bigot and I'd probably forgive him. If he can't do that, well, I can't act like I forgive him.
He punched his gold digging girlfriend. His wife of 28 years actually said that was atypical behavior for him, since he never hit her or their 7 (8?) kids in the almost 3 decades they were together. But, I do have a problem with the anti-Semitic spew. That's not necessary.
You said it best.
Not that it usually matters to most here but there are several million American Gays who are also waiting in line to receive an apology. After that apology (I wont't be holding my breath for it) I will "consider" forgiving him.
I could not have said it better.
So Erica – Pretty stupid post on your part – who gets to decide which woman a 'man' can punch out and still be a 'man'? There is no excuse for a 'man' to hit a woman. That guy knew where the front door was – he should have used it.
Pretty hard to forgive someone who doesn't think they have done anything they need forgiving for... Forgiveness is not my job – I can still think he's a dirt-bag who needs to think about getting his life together... or not...
nice remark, he is a bigot, and should be blackballed.
Sheppard completely missed Erica's point.
@drrr............... I didn't miss anything. Her point was it was OK for him to hit that particular woman – No it wasn't.
@RightSaidFred: No, gays don't deserve an apology, what is this ? apologize to everyone because they're too offended ? it looks more and more that Jews and gays always cry about everything !
How says it's up to you to forgive anybody? Do you know him? Did he harm you? or your family? Pretty big-headed of you to state how you won't forgive someone that did nothing wrong to you.
Do all of you average Joes really think Mel gives a damn whether or not you forgive him? The only forgiveness he's after is from the Hollywood power brokers, because he knows if he gets another chance to make a good movie all of you hypocrites will stand in line to see it.
Judging from all of the MBZ's and Beemers that were parked in the parking lot of my temple 2 weeks ago, forgiveness is highly possible for Mel Gibson.
Fine, I'll forgive him, but just don't ask me to go see one of his movies.
Mel is a f,,ing jerk. I ran into him at a bar in Costa Rica and he treated the tico's like crap. Hope he never works again and his wife cleans his clock.
You've got mel wrong on some counts, yes he's a jew hater *not an anti semite trying to find a final solution*, and yes he's a member of the slapahoe tribe *but he didn't lay on a finger on his non-hobag wife*.
The man makes good movies, I couldn't care less about his personal life.
@Paul: Dude, all ticos are crap, what did he do wrong ?
Brilliant! You should be writing for the movies (just not any for Mel). You might have thrown in a bit about his gay-bashing, though... That's yet another strike against the Mel-man.
first and last
Gibson's dad is famously antisemitic and believes that Jews control much of the world. Gibson was raised to be antisemitic, and The Passion of the Christ (made before his downfall), in retrospect seems pretty antisemitic.
I watched Edge of Darkness and thought it was good. I think he's a great actor, but it's just too soon to re-embrace Gibson.
Leaving his family and running off with some new woman, only to have a huge overblown breakup doesn't help his situation at all. Her recording his angry, mean and violent threats also doesn't help him. He doesn't seem reformed because he hasn't taken the time to reform himself. Gibson needs to go away for 5 years and get his act together. I know he's old and time is fleeting, but he's the one who's painted himself into this corner.
Robert Downey Jr didn't work for big chunks of time when he had his various drug problems, and it's a lot easier to forgive “addiction” than it is to forgive a lifetime of hidden “racism”. It's just too soon for Gibson and he's made zero effort to reform his image. Every movie he's ever made is now tainted for me. It's a huge betrayal and I'm not even Jewish. All this being said I still love Michael Jackson's Thriller album: but he's dead.
I'm sorry Gibson destroyed jodie fosters movie. Gibson had a beloved place in our culture. It's just too soon, and he destroyed too much of my faith in him.
This is for Whatever.
Agree 100% with you. Soundoff and others need forgiveness, you know, ignorance is paintful...
Hey, Whatever, if I control the world then how come I don't have more of that $$?? hmm. and let's see, I am pretty sure that there are many many more Christians who are famous and rich than there are Jews, right? b/c really i can name many more christians who control the wealth than i can name Jews. but of course you must be right, that nothing is ever the "Jew's fault" except success. Success apparently we must have manipulated to get so can't get credit for that. Right.
I wonder, has Gibson had a mea culpa moment? Downey has seemed to reform, and has some contrition. I have no such impression of Mel, but maybe I missed it.
I couldn't care less what he said to someone else. He wasn't talking to or about me. I still love The Road Warrior and all the Lethal Weapons. He has provided hours upon hours of entertainment to me, and since he doesn't get involved and judge MY private life, I give him the same respect. If he was an actual friend of yours, then that would be one thing. But he is not, and you are letting someone else make your decisions for you. Stop being a damn sheep and thinking that you are actually involved in his life. The Beaver looked retarded, but I would be first in line to see Road Warrior Part 4.
Can't anybody read and comprehend anymore? RDJ is not asking the world to forgive Mel, he's asking Hollywood to move on and let him work. You all get to vote at the box office if you don't want to see him and can't find it in your hearts to let this be between him and whatever higher power he may have to justify his life to – it certainly isn't anybody on this post! There are all kinds of people in this world and it is not for you to judge. His God/Karma/Higher Power/ETC/Whatever/Nothing will take care of any wrong he has done. Now move on – nothing to see here.....
SHUT UP! Who made you lord of what can and can not be done, what right do you have to say when is enough, god people like you make me sick. You moralists who feel that if everyone isn't marching th ethe band you listen to they shouldn't march. Well thanks for your comments, but they are your comments...so as I said in the beginning...SHUT UP!
Life is too short to be unforgiving. We're all sinners. God said "If you forgive, I forgive you". We NEED God. that's where all our good comes from. Only God is perfect.
Those who say we can't judge him w/o knowing him, well, I can't agree with you. I see what he DOES. I see what he SAYS. I see something of HOW HE LIVES HIS LIFE, and I don't like what I see. I won't throw money at him. I won't watch his movies. If he turned around like RDJr, maybe, but not until then.
@denim – nobody's arguing with your point. The point is about forgiveness and how none of us have personally been hurt by Mel, therefore we have nothing to forgive. You can not like what he does and show that by not watching his movies, of course. But forgiveness is the thing at issue here. It is not for us to forgive or not forgive.
Ditto, I could not of said it better!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Please everyone give me a second chance. FRRRREEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDOMMMMMM!!!
I watch Mel's movies because I like his acting and I like the movies. How many times have I had to hear "I don't care what he/she does in their personal life" when it involves others? Clinton ring a bell? The President of the greatest country in the world has an affair on his wife, in the Oval office, and yet his dumb follows don't think it is anybody's business but the Clintons, yet Mel gets dragged through the mud for his misgivings.
Double standard anyone?
I think Mel has apologized enough. I was disappointed in him as a fan but I've forgiven and I've never stopped watching his movies because of it.
Liberals. What a pathetic bunch.
Mel was only speaking the truth about how all our wars start. He just said it in a racist way. He should have not used the word jews instead I think what he meant is what I mean it's the cause of zionist israel that we are in so many wars and unrest in the world. That's not racist it's political. We should be able to criticize israeli actions without being labeled anti-semite.
I forgive him. I also forgot about him too. He is a NONperson in my mind. I won't see his films or go to any movies that star those who support him.
Really Israel is the cause of all wars in the world? So the Arab Spring is ISrael's fault? MUlims chopping off heads in the Philippines and Thailand, Israel's fault? You're every bit the bigot that Gibson is. He deserves no consdieration and neither do you.
C'mon webmaster, keep deleting my posts you moron. It's a free world, let me say whatever the hell I want.
Oh, and to that idiot saying about writing "lose" incorrectly, get a life you pathetic idiot, it was a typo, know what that is ?
Do any of you really believe that the media reporting the train-wreck of a hollywood actors life is truly accurate and honest? The media will highlight and take out of context everything that occurs if it will draw attention to their network. It really is all about money, people! In the long run people will have to ask themselves if their lives were under the scrutiny of the biased media every moment of you life would you be labeled the next Nazi baby killer, perverted, hate-filled monster that we all can throw stones at to feel better about our own failures. Who hasn't done something to deserve the shame of others. We all have the luxury of not being harassed by the media.
Well I dont know about the world, but it's pretty clear now the jews control the media. Who knows.
Keep in mind, LordBobo, 99% of what you think you know about Mel Gibson is manufactured by individuals who want to make their mark as entertainment reporters, or by attornies & ex's hoping to get the big payoff. You really should consider choosing the movies that you see based on the value of the story rather than the flawed backgrounds of the actors.
The thing is that when it comes to filmmaking Mel Gibson nearly always delivers when it comes to quality. Many people are very selective when it comes to the character flaws that certain people have, celebrities in particular. Is there so much outrage that Polanski in the eyes of the law, raped a girl who was a minor > Is there outrage that Steve Jobs, tech genius refused to acknowledge paternity for a child born out of wedlock and has had outsourced jobs out of the US to countries where the people work for slave wages. But all of the sudden a man says a few offensive things while drunk and Hollywood is trying to END HIM ? The man makes Hollywood money ! Its not practical to do this at all. Robert Downey JR is right. Just let the man do his work. Gibson, like Vick is an ENTERTAINER not a politician. He is not a representative of America's moral fibor and nor should he or any other person be held to that standard. Its like complaining that a Top Chef should never cook again because his personal views offends some people. That doesnt stop his steak from tasting any less great, and yet people behave in a similiar fashion towards Gibson. Its absurd.
Poor Mel, he does not have the perfect life that lordbobo has. I bet you bobo will be canonized by the Pope once he dies, but being above everyone else, he will resurrect just to reject the sainthood.
Only Jesus did this dance perfectly for all of us for all time and He taught us how to love one another in heart, mind, soul and strength as though loving God. So, perfect one, did your own huge 'stumbling block' make news at ten – repeatedly? When I did theater, none of my fellow thespians were in lock-step with their dad's viewpoints, so that really needs to die with the hatred. Mel 'De Mille' Gibson, please make us great biblical epoch films. Remind us all of the goodness of The LORD for His people. Make His people bountifully rich to doing great exploits that bless the needs of many who have no voice. Stay the course you empassioned and infectiously quirky funny man, and when you are strengthened of The LORD, show us all the passion you have for God and His people in the films you make, for you I'm convinced that you were made to bless The LORD, and His people. Thank you for making that incredible film about the Son of God and the son of man who had a passion first, for His own, and then also for all who might Believe on Him as God. Trust in Him. No doubt, you'll treat the young lady well and may the little innocent one grow to love you as greatly as your elder children do. May your family be encouraged, your entire family, entirely, in the goodness of God's Grace and Love. Prayers for many restorations with others – leading into greater and stronger ties than could have been known without these severe jostles in the road. when brought into your life. May those who begin to exercise the power of God within them to forgive, even tough it may feel like having to forgive much, may their exercising the wisdom, the love, and the power to do so, collectively, and individually, bring forth greater blessings from GOD into each life. His love and peace to each and every one of you that this entire saga has directly involved. Jodie. Dear God, what you did. What a witness of humble grace, and leadership. Words can't express. I get choked up just trying to comment. God's gifts shine at needed times, don't they. Robert Downey, JR. You ARE an 'iron man', GOD love you. I keep an eye on Mel's progress, because I believe the best of his film making days are yet ahead. Wrongs happened, but it's time to heal this thing beneficially for everyone. Sure wish I could play a bit part in a Mel 'De Mille' Gibson film. But, I'm just a tiny voice out there. Peace, love, joy. (Thus my humble opinion and hope.) It's intimidating to put my name to this, but I voice from my heart as tiny as it is, and I hope my heart is in agreement with God's Spirit in what I have asserted as gently as I can.
Well said Elizabeth James!
Well, look who is talking. First, revise your name and clean you language. Then, express your opinion about art and artists.
What did rap do to you? Wow your W-A-Y off the reservation with that analogy...
I saw that special! It's true!
That explains why you call yourself B A S T U R D
If you are going to make statements YOU believe accurately depict the entire Jewish race, please learn to spell correctly, because instead of your opinion sounding worthy of attention, you sounds like an illiterate bigot. Oh wait! Is THAT the point you were trying to make????
The Jews are a race ? I thought it was a religion..
TO THE JEWS THAT HAVE SUFFERED THROUGH MEL'S STUPID COMMENTS, AND I MEAN STUPID...NEXT TIME HE SAYS SOMETHING STUPID WHICH WE KNOW HE WILL DO AT ANY MOMENT NOW... JUST TURN AROUND, LOOK INTO THAT WRINKLED FACE AND BLUE EYES AND SAY MEL? SHUT UP.
man you are the coolest actor... even if it is really not you, you certainly write like I would iimagine his thinking to be... I guessing it could be you
Mel needs to be taken out to the woodshed. It's not only the Jews that he has defamed, but also Blacks, Hispanics, Gays, and Women. Eventually he will tick off the wrong person and get his due.
BS, when has he disrespected Blacks and Hispanics ? he even travels now and then to Guatemala to help as much as he can with all his charity work.
that's why Mel needs to shut up and get to work
thats why everyone keeps saying, everytime mel says something stupid..just tell him to SHUT UP!!!!
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