October 15th, 2010
10:07 AM ET
Vince Vaughn responds to use of 'gay' in 'Dilemma'When it comes to "The Dilemma," Vince Vaughn is conflicted. Though Universal Pictures pulled the phrase "Electric cars are gay" from the comedy's trailer after both GLAAD and CNN anchor Anderson Cooper complained that such words are insensitive and harmful, the 40-year-old actor now says he wishes the language had been left in. "Let me add my voice of support to the people outraged by the bullying and persecution of people for their differences, whatever those differences may be," Vaughn said in a statement to CNN.
"Comedy and joking about our differences breaks tension and brings us together. Drawing dividing lines over what we can and cannot joke about does exactly that; it divides us," he said. "Most importantly," he added, "where does it stop." "The Dilemma," which stars Vaughn as a man who discovers that the wife of his best friend (Kevin James) is having an affair, is set to arrive in theaters in 2011, which means there's still plenty of time to re-cut another trailer for the film. But will Universal comply with Vaughn's wishes? Stay tuned. Update, 12:13 p.m.: GLAAD has issued a statement in response to Vaughn's remarks addressing the use of the word "gay" in the "The Dilemma." “Jokes can bring people together, but they can also push us apart," GLAAD President Jarrett Barrios says in the statement. "When 'gay' is used as a pejorative, it frequently sends a message – particularly to youth and their bullies – that being gay is wrong and something to laugh at. We invite Vince Vaughn to work with us and help ensure that gay youth and those perceived to be gay aren't put in harm's way by such jokes.”
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I really don't understand all the fuss. I have heard comedians make much worse comments doing standup. I mean there are movies with the 'N" word and every other offensive word in them. You got people offended by a word but not bothered by a bunch of adults posing as half-n*ked teenagers. WTH is wrong with our country? Are we going to start censoring comedians now? I love Vince Vaughn.
This whole thing is stupid. Whatever happened to freedom of expression? It's just a word people, to alot of people this is a funny joke, joke being the key word. Gay people are so thin-skinned these days. I was bullied my whole childhood and I brushed it off. People that are insecure bully, plain and simple. I am actually gratefull for what happened to me, as I am much stronger as a result. If gay people are constantly complaining about being bullied or being called what they are, they will eventually be resented by society for being oversensitive and weak. Wouldn't you guys rather be viewed as a strong group of people who are cabable of taking a few licks like the rest of the world?
This is getting out of hand people. I really cant believe that people are making such a big fuss about something that had been said in a movie. how about if they portray gays as "chicken" in every movie just like they do with arabs as terrorists in every movie. do you think that its not offensive to us as arabs? i think its more offensive then just using the word gay. What you have to keep in mind is that if we did pick at everything, our lives would be shortened considerably. I am an Arab and i dont like the fact that i am seen as a terrorist by the public because of some stupid extremists. What i would like to say is that if movies had portrayed gays in some kind of image or way, then i could say you do have solid grounds to argue. But to make such a big story for just using a word that could mean several things and used in several ways, i dont think there should be a story about it at all. All of the clips that they have shown about this story had been the use of the word. GET OVER IT!!!!
Everybody hates broccoli, even George H. Bush said he hates it. If somebody said "Electric Cars are broccoli," would you get upset and defend broccoli? How about if somebody said "Electric Cars are Lawyers"? The answer is no, no you would not be upset. Although you are using a word in a hurtful manner. You might be confused, but you would never stand up and defend lawyers. It is a silly example but poignant. I agree that over sensitivity can be a cancer on society. Growing to the point that the divisions in society are to great to overcome. However, I believe that tolerance and acceptance is key. Tolerance goes both ways though. Tolerate some joking and lifestyles or humor that isn't your own. Don't allow it to become an issue and it won't be.
So I have no problems with the trailer what a bunch of B.S......
Being Gay is not "normal" and it will never will be no matter how much everyone tries to tap dance around it and be correct......NEVER
Dont ask Dont tell is the only way you will be treated the same as everyone else
Buck up or Shut up
That's gay
Everyone is gay and everything is gay..Period..
Now what? Nuke the planet?
Move to the moon?
This article and CNN are beyond gay..What's that?
Who knows, make something up and find someone who hasn't but needs to be offended..
Later
Political correctness has no place in comedy. Certain comments may be offensive – and inappropriate in professional situations – but that doesn't mean they're not said behind closed doors. What's funny cannot be subjected to a committee review. If people find something funny – and it offends other people, who find themselves the butt of the joke – one way to have the discussion is to leave the comment in so it can be discussed. Without a cultural artifact like that – preserved in the amber of pop culture – there's no discussion, just a lot of anger, on the one hand, and denial on the other. Calling something "so gay" is so middle-school, but it's a popular expression that shouldn't be newspeaked by censors.
I can see where GLAAD is coming from, but the word has different connotations whether they like it or not. People aren't going to stop using it no matter how much you complain. I think in situations like this, the only thing GLAAD will accomplish is having people irked that they're making such a big deal about something most people find stupid.
By the way, why does every person who does something that is questionably non PC then have to work with that organization afterward because that organization complains?
Seriously. What's the big deal? Language is a living, evolving thing. Words enter our vernacular as pejorative, but as they are used longer, they become more benign. It might offend some, but it shouldn't really matter. Take the meaning of words from their context - not from a pre-determined definition. To make a big deal out of something like this is simply to expose one's own pettiness. I'm gay myself, and think the word can be hilarious. If you find yourself offended, I feel a little sorry for you. No harm was intended, so whatever harm was inflicted is of your own production.
Seriously. What's the big deal? Language is a living, evolving things. Words enter our vernacular as pejorative, but as they are used longer, they become more benign. It might offend some, but it shouldn't really matter. Take the meaning of words from their context - not from a pre-determined definition. To make a big deal out of something like this is simply to expose one's own pettiness. I'm gay myself, and think the word can be hilarious. If you find yourself offended, I feel a little sorry for you. No harm was intended, so whatever harm was inflicted is of your own production.
I think people are immature for trying to blame movies for their actions
Ok, If they are going to be so offended by that then I am forming a new group to be offended. As a happy person I am offended by the hijacking of the word "GAY"! Gay used to mean happy and excited. As a happy person I am offended that this word has been hijacked to mean something else. HAPPY PEOPLE OF THE WORLD UNITE! TAKE BACK THE WORD SO THEY DON'T NEED TO BE OFFENDED ANYMORE! Excuse me but I am now going to go make a drink, sit on the couch and watch TV with my wife and be very gay!
I will never again go see anything with Vince Vaughn, and if I see him in public again, as I have in the past, I can't WAIT to make all kinds of jokes about how fat he is. Now there's a joke...the actor who grew fat and can't act.
Silly people use silly words. Cruel people use cruel words. Now, decide which is which.
Who CARES? So your a gay blade, a k-y cowboy, a rump ranger or what ever, get over it! So I am white bread or a red neck or a wasp, so what. IF its gay its gay, if its retarded its retarded, if its ghetto its ghetto, in a hundred years from now who is going to care? who or what is left of mankind will be eeking out air to breath and water to drink. Do any of you really think who or what you are makes on bit of difference to anyone else? Look around you, take a real hard look and remember civility is only for the middle class, the rich dont need them and the poor cant afford them.
This entire discussion is not only gay but very very very retarded.....
The word gay has been redefined again.. Deal with it!! It originally meant happy.. So, what only gay people can change a word's meaning??!! Hypocrisy!!
whoever said that it was a gay person who made the word gay to also mean happy?
i personally am sick and tired of the P.C. B.S! That's destroying our country more then a JOKE is. Just look at the "VIEW" when whoopee and Joy walked out because Bill said it was MUSLIMS who attacked us on 911. No lies there. Leave the Politically correct bologna at the door. They are just words! Not bullying, not beating up someone, JUST words PEOPLE!
oh vinnie you are of stupid mind
I find it more offensive that Kevin James plays a character that 2 people want to sleep with
I just cant get over how unsensitive the world is!
Finally to Vince Vaughn. If you wanted to use different words to describe something as being lame. Why didn't you say the car was just "an alcoholic drunk bigot wanna be actor"?
If it's ok to use the word gay to imply that something is lame and faulty then why do the same people wimp out at depicting the prophet mohammed because muslims find such depictions offensive. This further highlights the contradictions and hypocrites in our culture and society... like the phrase 'equality and justice for all' lol
your absolutely right
Are we really this sensitive nowadays? Good thing we wern't around a hundred years ago when you had to be tough just to survive.
Can someone let me know how this all shakes out? If "That's gay" is out for offensiveness to gays, than I imagine other alternative have equal problems: "That's girly or feminine" is against women, "That's lame" is against the disabled. Even "That's weak" is against those with below average strength (which is normally the main target for bullies). Do we need to make up a new word here? "That's so goobly" (Is that too close to goober?).
Does this spill over into other phrases like "The pot calling the kettle black". Does the pot need to call the kettle something else?
It is interesting that the names being called back and forth and the offensive language that people sneek in under the automated censor with clever character usage are ok with most (even though against the terms of service agreed upon for posting); but the use of the word gay is the sticking point.
Sorry, I meant to close with a quote from Michael Scott (The Office): "You don't call retarded people retards. It's bad taste. You call your friends retards when they're acting retarded."
is it so bad to ask we educate ouselves and use words with thier proper meaning. if its stupid just say it's stupid. stop trying to use words that describe a minority of people as something stupid or lame!
@what....I concur in spades!
everyone should just go watch an episode of Will & Grace and get over it. Free speech is just that, GLAAD needs to shut up and color. Maybe they should work the gay marriage issue instead of some actor saying a word in a damn movie.
dude again! it's not that the word is in the movie, thats not what the issue is about. it's because they wanted to use it in thier promotional trailer, and show it on public TV.
Hollywood gay nazis strike again.
straight white nazi's again trying to oppress another minority. and using GAY to describe a Nazi's is an Oxymoron! look it up Moron!
Funny – I always Vince was gay.......................
You can't demand to be treated the same and then in the same breath ask to be treated different. Ridicule and jokes are part of life for everybody, not just minorities.
how many time have you heard the N word used in an incindiary way on public tv and there are many other words that cant be said on public tv. it's not a gay thing considering it was started by straight people. so you'll just have to find another way to spread you hatred!
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't hate people. I support their right to marry and their right to be treated like everybody else.
The "N" bomb is a far different case than gay, way to try and cloud the issue with that idiotic argument.
enlighten me then wise one. how are they different? I'd love to hear it.
this is a fine example of the gay agenda encroaching on our right to free speech. it is wrong to be gay, but through years of spin, they make people like me seem like an intolerant ass.
you are an intolerant ass. that's why you say that being gay is wrong.
"gay agenda" Uhmmm! you're wrong again dude. censorship started with christians, not wanting the wholly to hear incindiary remarks or even cuss words on public tv. thats how we got censorship. so that is your "Christian" agenda at work. you've made your bed now lay in it!
You have every right to say that being gay is wrong. just follow it up next time with "that's my opinion," because that's what it is.
I can understand the word gay being upsetting to some, but I'd like to add that the word "Retard" is used in every hollywood film and can't understand why that word would not be removed as it is upsetting to a large population of people as well!
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it's not that the word gay is used in the movie. it's because they wanted to use it in the trailer on public television. and you're right to use the word retard on public television is wrong! and doesn't belong there
I agree wholeheartedly
He thinks that's gay? What a FAAAG!!!
This Comment Makes me sick""When 'gay' is used as a pejorative, it frequently sends a message – particularly to youth and their bullies – that being gay is wrong and something to laugh at. " Being gay Is Wrong! Get some thicker skin and quite being Gay Babies out there. Gay is Just Wrong and it is sick. SICK SICK SICK. It is a sick choice they make. It is not a disease but a choice do do something wrong and if they commit suicide that is a choice they made because what they are doing is wrong!
go to hell grownup
"Most importantly," he added, "where does it stop." i would ask him the same question. where does this censorship stop?
cenorship stops in the movie itself. put or say whatever you want in the movie. peoople pay to see or hear it. that's private and censorship does not belong there. but when you want to advertise something that demates an entire community on public television thats where the lines get drawn. this is why we don't hear the "F" word on Public television. you don't have to be a genius to figure it out. And I know you are not a genius so i thought I would point that out to ya! K?
If any of you gays want to commit suicide I have a gun you can borrow
You low life uneducated freak! did you thnk of that all by yourself. Or did you hear if from you white haired closet case daddy! i'm only joking. I hope i dind't offend you, you pretentious boob!
anybody that goes by the name dude must be really smart
Lighten up fairies.
Anderson Cooper, who called the tea party, teabaggers, upset over a GAY slight. Gimme a break you MORON!
Complaining about people saying gay is gay
I will never stop using the word gay in reference to things that are stupid. The more they complain about it, the more I will do it.
Use what ever words you want to inbred! it's your own mess you spill out of you mouth. but noone knows how stupid you are until you speak stupidly. A fish don't get caught until he opens his mouth. and how quick you are to take the bait. fool!
uh.
While pleasuring my 18 year old male lover, I asked him what he thought of Vince Vaughan, and he said,
"Vince looks so gay in that picture. Yummy!"
Enough said. All you suburban white males who never got the crap beat out of them (physically and psychologically) during high school should just SHUT UP about the 'sensitivities' of people who have. Shut up about all the other groups and just go back to watching Soprano reruns and pretending you're Joe Rogan.
Cooper Anderson is a huge dooosh! How gay he would complain.
You little closet case Que**. everyone in here can tell you some admiration for anderson cooper. because you cant seem to stop thinking about him. If being gay wasn't so badly frowned up on, you could go after him and try to hook up and get your cooper fix. but to be honest he's way outta your league.
This thread is so gay.
Sorry GLAAD. Vince is right. Soon it will be christians can't say the word muslim, democrats can't say republican, black comedians can't make jokes about whites and vise versa. Soon it will be the "G" word because you can't say gay.
there are hundreds of thousands of words in the english vocabulary. why choose to use the incindiary words to get you point across. if he meant lame then why not say that. and if the words you wish to use are only "words" and don't matter, then use on of the other thousands of words to get whatever piont you are trying to make across.
I respectfully disagree. Than you have just censored something that should be able to expressed freely.
People who are that unstable enough to hurt some one simply by hearing a phrase in a movie will always find something to feed their hatred.
I think the issue is that the word "gay" has become a widely-used synonym for "lame" among kids. If I were gay I'd be offended by this association. too. It creates the perception that anything 'gay' is uncool. I've already talked to my kids about this and asked them not to use the word "gay" in that way.
you are absolutely right! I wish everyone had a mother like you. the world would be a much better place
Lisa you are proof that not all gay people are intellegent. I hope when you told your folks that you were gay they thought. Oh, she just lame or stupid! it's a phaze she'll grow out of it. But appearantly you haven't. so here's to you lame and stupid Lisa! WhooHooo! You Go Girl!
People are getting way too thin skinned and PC.
I'm gay, and I think the use of the word can be hilarious. When someone uses the word "gay" to imply that something is lame or stupid, I do not automatically conclude that they are making the same assumption about me. That would be overly sensitive, ludicrous (and QUITE egocentric of me) to think so. And I adamantly agree with Vaughn. The people who are overly sensitive to these things are causing FAR MORE rifts and divisions than the people who use words lightheartedly. And, yes, OF COURSE, ANY word can be used in a hateful manner, but we need to be ADULT enough to know the difference.
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Good answer JC, I agree 100%..
Those Glaad people are so Gay!
drugs are so african american... money grubbing is so jewish... southerners marry only within the family, folks from california are all fruits and nuts... the world would be a lot better off if we just stuck to the basics.
Guess what, GLAAD President Barrios? You could not be more wrong...jokes only divide us when we let them divide us or when we allow ourselves to be offended by them. Ever heard the saying, "sticks and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me,"? Apparently not or this would not have such an uproar about this. He could've said a lot more derrogatory things than he did, but guess what? He didn't...end of story. Not to mention, it's a freaking movie!!! Get over it people and stop wearing your heart on your sleeve. That's why our country is a pushover these days is because people like those involved in GLAAD are a bunch of namby pambies!!!
you inbreed little freak. just like your old white haired grandpa who is also your uncle. stop muttering stupidity.. just joking. there thats a funny joke for ya! Pr**k
your mother is prolly some pias lazy dogged ugly sal of a woman that never taught you how to respect others. and there inlies your problems. since words that are use in this mannner are so funny I hope you are cracking up with laughter. 'cuz I am only joking! LMAO!
@CW
stop trying to put fear into people for being who they are and understand it is your fear that keeps you from thinking rationally. the Bible is made to put fear into everyone so the rich and powerful can control the poor and powerless. it's exactly what the right winged concervatives do, promoting fear to achieve their agenda. if the bible was the word of god, it wouldln't have been changed so many times to meet the needs of current societies. Take for instance "divorce" it is a sin to "divorce" anyone. But religion has changed that because of current society. if the continued to condem those who get divorced, well they would have no-one to put money in thier begging pans they pass around every week.
Seriously this isn't even worth the attention!! Sticks and stones will break my bones but names will never hurt me. People need to quit being so sensitive. He wasn't making fun of any one.... Oh my, he said that electric cars are gay! Really, is this worth all the time spent on it? Doesn't GAY meam Happy too?
People need to lighten up. Political correctness has made the entire population incapable of taking a joke or telling the truth.
Limits on free speech are so gay!
How many of you think using the "N" word is okay and use it while calling something lame? You just DON'T do that! This is not about being thick-skinned, this is about using a word in a derogatory and non-joking way. Unfortunately, though many of you seem to think you can tell the difference between when the word is being used jokingly or not, we live in a society where that just isn't the case. If you could ask the gay suicide victims how they felt about it every time somebody at their school said "that's so gay" I'm quite sure you may change your way of thinking. NOT okay to use in a derogatory way.
The issue is not about the joke. If this line was only in the movie, there would have been no outcry. However, the moment it is broadcast publicly as part of the trailer, it becomes a problem. Not only is it poor business sense to use this joke as your pitch for a movie, but it also sends a message that can be legitimately understood as offensive into the public sphere. The racial epithets that the other posters mention are not banned words; you could definitely hear them in an R-rated movie. There is a difference between going to the movie looking for crude humor and having crude humor thrust upon you.
So when people say "you throw like a girl" then I should be offended right?
we choose the manner in which we take things. lighten up and learn to take a freaking joke!
A lot of hostility is hidden behind jokes. When the people who it is directed to are offended by the word and are not
laughing they are being bully. Vince is lacking of sensitivity and shame on him for not seeing how hurtful the way
the word 'gay' was used in this context..
i won't go to see the movie.
I'm tired of never ever being able to say anything about Blacks or Gays.......but if you're a straight White person it's open season....
Movies are an art form. They tell a story about our world or another. Are these stories not allowed to feature people behaving inappropriately? Is a movie depicting a crime necessarily condoning crime? Of course not. You can't take every second of footage from a movie as being the creator's personal stance on things. That use of the word 'gay' (which I haven't made my mind up about, actually), is spoken by a _character_, not Vince Vaughn, not the writer, and not anyone else you can reprimand in public.
Really, people.
I have gay friends and we joke using the word gay; it's no big deal. People who run organizations like GLADD need something to harp on in order to keep in business. If they didn't have so many perceived slights there would be no reason to be around.
To state that joking about about being gay is causing kids to commit suicide is beyond stupid. Kids commit suicide because they have problems far beyond bullying or joking. They need professional help and maybe medication. If we can joke about our differences we can better understand them. It's when we can't talk about them that they become problematic.
So um, when did people become such babies? Or have I been out of the loop for awhile? People offended because an electric car is gay? What does the electric car have to think about this? Oh..it is not a person? So let me kinda get this straight, someone insults a CAR, saying it is gay, and people get offended and claim that its wrong to say the electric car is gay? What happened to stix and stones will break my bones, but words will never hurt me. To any kid that is bullied, this is not aimed at you. But for the love of god, don't kill yourselves because some uneducated inbred is teasing you. Just tell someone. Adults, you need to pull your heads out of the ground and worry about more important issues. We have so much we can work on as a culture and the money to do it, yet we are always fighting with each other over stupid stuff. How is this helping the children of tommorrow? It is not, it will be old news in a few months and look at all the time people have wasted (myself included) when you could be spending time fixing something, spending time with your family and friends and working on things that will help others. Grow up, it is about time. Adios
It's a movie. Fiction. America needs to get over itself.
What word would you like me to use to describe a man would loves another man or a woman who loves to be with a woman so as not to offend anybody. I bet the word you choose will offend someone though.
Of course Anderson Cooper had a problem with it. Anderson Cooper is GAY!!! CNN, seriously, you are gay, too.
I'm gay and I don't mind!
It's annoying when people give power to words.
So many freaking sensitive people. GET OVER IT!
I did.
YES! I'm gay too and I think it's hilarious. People need to calm down.
Why be soooo sensitive? Well, let's see. Do you think it would be acceptable if ANY of the following words was casually uttered by semi-literates as a derisive term for 'lame' or 'stupid'. Go ahead, try it. Electric cars are so Jewish/Black/Korean/Christian/Chinese... Right on, most of the above posters are so 'hetero' (i.e., stupid). Guess it's a question of dialect.
As a Gay man I find this situation ridiculous. Even I use that phrase with my friends gay and straight. GLAAD, HRC and the other GLBT Non Profits need to get off their high horse and fight for something more substantial than this. I bet each and every one of them have used that phrase at some point. The word "Gay" used to be used to refer to someone that was Happy or someone that was Funny. What happened to society? Not everything is used for discriminatory purposes.
Why is GLAAD taking aim at the words of a made-up character in a work of fiction? They should take aim at the real words and real actions of real-world people.
Hey, I'm Italian so I think the next time someone orders spaghetti and "meatballs" I'll get offended, because you know the word "meatballs" could be used as a derogatory meaning towards Italians. I'm joking here, but making a point at how ridiculous this political correctness has become.
commenting your opinions on cnn articles is super gay
this is so gay..... get over it...
I've thought for a very long time that the problem actually exist in the human obsession with labeling everything. Why must people be labeled as gay, straight or bi. What relevance does that label really have in the real world? What does one accomplish except to create yet another us vs them scenario.
We certainly don't spend our time labeling people for other things they may prefer. I don't see national headlines about discrimination against chocolate ice cream lovers or stick shift drivers. Why? Because who would give damn? Why can't we apply this logic to all aspects. He or she is just another person. Period. Once we start working from that frame of mind, these trivial playground discussions over who people choose to sleep with will begin to look as silly as it sounds.
Wow, so many people are simply jerks! They don't care if they hurt or demean others just as long as they can enjoy a cheap laugh! Especially given the current rash of teen suicides, the word should come out of the movie. Vaughn has proven himself to be totally insensitive.
I am white and Gay and feel like I am treated more like a minority for being white now then Gay!
Don't be a Jew!
Do what I want.
There are just so many weak willed people in the world. Gay is gay, anything gay is abnormal. The truth hurts sometimes, but most people just move on the others are irrelevant.
@cw
The Bible is full of metaphors, it isn't meant to be followed word for word
If people think it's totally okay to use the word "gay" as a derogatory, prejorative term for the sake of comedy, maybe we should just bring the "N" word back too. How about that? Or maybe blackface minstrels! That was considered funny at one time by most white people wasn't it? Maybe we can bring that back too! While we're at it, let's start making "chinamen" jokes in movie trailors again too! Oh and let's not forget about the "joos" because anti-semetism is always good for a laugh! Apparently, if it's considered "comedy" it excuses all forms denegration!
What's next, are they going to take blonde jokes from us? Obviously, communism is alive and well in America. Where are our heroes like Charles Bronson or J. Edgar Hoover?
Wonder why Anderson Cooper got his black thong all bunched up over a movie line? Hmm, do tell AC...
People this is not funny! I"m an A$$ hole and do you have any idea how bad it kills me to hear that word being used in the movies? Those scenes need to be deleted as we A$$ holes have feelings too. Also all the Bee hotches tell me they hate when their kind is made fun of too! It's just so frustrating and gay!
ok first and foremost this subject is being getting blow way out of proportion. two the statement vaughn made about "electric cars" being "gay" is that of a actor portraying the opinions of a non fictional character. and even worse its that of a car. the word gay was never used in any for of degrading context or purposely directed at anyone at all. some ppl put themselves in the line of fire.
Anyone consider that there are probably five or six writers per scene? Not to mention the countless scenes in countless movies that use "gay" in reference to objects? Where's the backlash for those? How about when they reference actual people?? Mean Girls anyone?
Gay people like Anderson Cooper have no place in normal society.
Wow America is so much trouble. Just look at all of our problems. A group of under-educated, overly sensitive, pharmaceutically dependent, broke, tea-baggin people, who seem to be only good at crying about what the government isnt doing for them. If you don't like this movie don't watch it. We need to use stem cells and grow a backbone as a nation. Lol. Not to be mean but sometimes people need a reality check.
PRESS TO RESTORE SANITY
The reason the electric car was referred to as 'gay' is because it doesn't get turned on until you stick a plug in its rear. Just sayin'......
Now THAT was hilarious! One of the funniest jokes I've heard in a while!!
I'm bi and I gotta say, electric cars are pretty gay. Maybe its hard to see for some people, but a car that makes almost no noise and doesn't harm the environment much? Sounds like being a vegan: pretty gay. Lol people get too uppity about stuff, just chill. Gay people call themselves gay, and many call themselves fa**ots as well. Society played a part in it, but its ultimately the people who call themselves the word that instills it in language. Rappers use the n word, gay people use the f word.. I've been called white trash lol and its true: cheese toast with ketchup is NOT pizza but it sure is white trash pizza
I say quit cryin, embrace who you are and understand the differences between us. Vince was right, drawing lines will divide us more. Being offended will divide us. Negativity from ANYONE will divide us.
This whole waste of comment space on a news site is gay. Yes, I said it, it's gay. Go do something productive and worthy of society.
Gees, don't get your panties in a knot.....
Political correctness is out of handle and treading on our 1st and 14th ammendment rights to freedom of speach\expression.
F*** Political Correctness!!!
That's so hetero (stupid).
The definition of gay is "happily excited"....why would this cause such an uproar. I think it is great that an electric car is happily excited. People need to lighten up and just be happy instead of reading into everything a celebrity says. There is such a thing as freedom of speech and if we take that away then we are no better than most of the countries on this planet.
Vince didn't use the word in a derogatory way! Oh please GLAAD, build a bride and...GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*typo...that's: "bridge"
@Paul, actually you always have a choice in anything. sure being gay is not a choice, and dont take me wrong here i see nothing wrong with gay people or their lifestyle. but there is always the choice to act on it. in any situation in life there is choice, lack of choise is an illusion created by scared minds unable to understand whats going on around them.
I thought Vince was indicating the car needing something shoved up it's tailpipe.
Maybe he should have said Electric cars are so phat, would all overweight people be offended or no because the ph version was used???
Disgusting and Im offended that the "gays" feel the need to force this crap off as normal or acceptable. Its not.
Ignorance is a choice. Being gay is not. I don't care what you're invisible deity says.
So it's ok for you to bash God, but someone says something is gay and you're up in arms?
That's pretty gay... well in a non-gay way... you get what im saying right?
Gay is wrong. Don't ya'll read the Bible, God's Word?
Not my god. I refuse to live my life based on someone else's belief in an invisible thing in the sky, thank you very much. I'll take facts over "faith" any day.
@ paul..thus, you must accept the fact that gay are always be mistreated.
Oh Jan, you silly girl. There is not some magical man up there in the sky that authored the bible. The words in that book were written by men from a long long time ago, who heard voices in their heads and decided to put it to writing. The bible is a book of laws created by men to control civilization....not some magical guy in the sky.
rather than hoping that someday you'll be not, coz definitely, it's a false one.
I did read that book...bad ending....God ends up gay.
This reminds me of the Gieco commercial where R Lee Gunning is the psycho therapist, " why don't we all just mosey on over to mamby pamby land and find you some self confidence" everyone's feelings are getting hurt in the new super sensitive politically correct society which will contribute to ruining this country.
Rudy P is my hero and that is not gay.
I think anyone who lets a word get to then is indeed thin skinned, no matter what word. The thing about anyone who says things like "you ever been called such and such? until you are dont speak up" are only showing their weakness. I know most of us have heard this old chestnut "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me." Words only have power if you let them. Call me any name you want, you wont hear me complain. you know why? i know i have the power to not care. so what if someone calls you a name, grow up get over it and move the hell on.
This whole controversy is Gay!
If what Vaugh and the brilliant writers were trying to convey in their sentence "electric cars are gay", is that electric cars are "lame" or 'stupid" why didn't they just use those words? What if he said "electric care are like Jews" or "electric cars are retarded" – a little offensive eh? We as adults understand that the reference to gay here is "stupid" or "lame" but a child or teenager who's mind is not fully developed or lives in a bubble can only assume the word "gay" as used in the sentence in that movie is bad thing, and they don't want to be gay and anyone who is gay is wrong. Adults have to take responsibility for how they teach bigotry to our youths- through words and bad humor! We are not born Bigots.
If he said the cars are so Jew, I'd think he meant they do a great job saving gas. If he said they were so retarded I'd assume they didn't work 100%. DUH
They don't use those words because then it wouldn't be funny. That's what humor is, ironic, irreverent, controversial, unexpected, etc... Different people think different things are funny. I know you know that. You just don't agree with this so you're being unreasonable.
I'm gay, and your all gay for posting here. Come out of the closet! I am still in the closet, but I want to come out now.
Give me a break. The Vince Vaughn using gay as a negative (which is obviously how he means it) thing is NOT an isolated one time thing. As a gay guy in his 40s who goes out of his way to be seen as very "average joe/macho" (my choice), I've had to put up with this crap my whole life. At this point, I'm tired of being "understanding" F-that. I can list 10 movies THIS YEAR ALONE with Adam Sandler,Kevin James and Vince Vaughn that have tons of "joke gay character type humor" or alll sorts of straight-guy-to-straight-guy put downs involving "gay terms". So F*off It's not funny when you're gay and you don't need a Phd to figure that out.
WOW!! What this world coming to! I guess soon we be saying its ok to lie,cheat,steal,kill and when you call someone a cheater or lier they going to be hurt. How else are we to teach people what's right if we continue to make excuses for them. I had not know that I shouldn't still if my parents didn't tell me and if the law had not tell us for the parents that can't raise there children right. I say u have the right to be gay and you have the right to cheat,steal,kill and lie. But it don't make it OK. Cause its wrong to do and be all of those things. People don't fear GOD anymore!!
Lets all remember, people can only affect you as much as you let them.
People that get upset at people for calling situations or things "GAY" need to relax. When people say something is "COOL" I dont automaticaly beleive that what they are speaking about is cold to the touch. Electric cars are gay, spending money at the theater to watch a horrible over hyped movie is gay... you are gay... im actually getting sick of gay people and all there crying... its gay!
If he said Electric Cars are cork-sucking, pillow-biting, azz-pirates...
Then maybe I can understand the problem. Even if it would be true.
Just another example of how hypersensitivity and political correctiveness have hijacked this country. There's a line in the Flintstones theme song that reads: "You'll have a gay old time." I don't see GLAAD or Anderson Cooper waging a campaign against Hanna-Barbara...
It's not the word itself that's objectionable, it's how it's used. In the Flintstone's it's a positive reference, in Vince's movie it's a negative one that perpetuates a negative cultural reference and image of gay people, which can lead to violence toward them. Words have power, sometimes to destroy.
this whole thing is gay.
Vince Vaughn: It is actors and, quite frankly, people like you who think the word 'gay' to describe things and situations is cool. Therefore, I'm not surprised you wanted to leave that phrase in the movie.
This just in.....it iw also wrong to use the words "fat", "skinny", "short", "ugly", "bald", "hairy" and "dumb" because they offend people.
This story is GAY! Go ahead b!tch an complain. I have gay friends and they do joke around about. Stupid cry baby wussies.
Stupid! Stupid Argument over this whole thing. As a gay man, now in my 50's, I find this whole uproar just stupid and childish. The word as we know it to be used more recently used to mean, "happy, joyful, lighthearted." Now it's become a word that describes me as someone who is affectionately drawn to someone of the same gender.
Hey gay people...we don't own the word! Take a breath. Take a deep, deep breath. Now breathe out. See, all better now.
Why are electric cars gay? I think they're pretty cool, futuristic. Seems like for a car to be gay it would have to run on rainbows or zima or something.
I've noticed that the people I know who use the word tolerance alot are the most intolerant people I know. Those who won't tolerate use of the word Gay are more intolerant than the people who use comedy to diffuse tense subject matter, IMHO!
We live in a society of politically correct wusses. Always looking to point fingers at someone for hurting our feelings. What happened to "life isn't fair"? Busk up America, we have lost our edge and have become a society of lazy, boring status quo seeking wusses- no edge no drive. I think it really GAY.
Has anybody talked to the electric car to see how it feels about being called gay?
Thats gay
Vince Vaughn is so gay
Waa waa waa. Being politically correct is overrated and would makes the world a very boring place. Next we won't be able to say that was stupid because we will be insulting stupid people!
1 in 5 gays have hiv. i hope they all die in a fire. the fire of hells for all eternity. enjoy your nice warm hole.
Dang Paco, really. Die? Well I hope you live and live a long time. Long enough to meet your son's boyfriend.
The problem with the statement is that it is not part of a joke or even funny. Like if it was "electric cars are stupid"- is the statement a joke? or funny? His explanation of being able to laugh at ourselfselfs doesnt make sense.
Using the word "gay" to mean "stupid" offends me. I constantly hear my students call things "gay" and "retarded" when they mean those things are dumb; gay and retarded have negative connotations that you do not want to be associated with. So it offends me. Because there's nothing wrong with being gay.
I don't see why people get so defensive about using the word...there are an infinite number of better words to use instead. What's the point of jokes that genuinely hurt someone? Why even bother telling them? I promise, it will not kill you to change one word in a joke, and in doing so, you are protecting others' feelings.
Not to mention that it was a stupid joke to begin with, whether it used the word "gay" or not.
if youre a teacher then you should know the old phrase "sticks and stones may break my bones, but words will never hurt me, unless they arent the politically correct status quo version"
Are we as Americans really that sensitive to everything these days? It's a movie and I'd you cannot take make the difference between reality and fake then you have a huge problem. I'm sick and tired of everything being so PC now. We want everyone to feel good about themselves and in reality life isn't about that. It's about over coming challenges that we face from day to day. So stop the crying GLAAD about every time someone says the "G" word.
Has anyone else noticed that the vast majority of the folks who stated that they actually are gay find the joke funny and NOT offensive. All these PC foks are busy being offended for a group that, on average, isn't offended themselves!
I'm gay, and I VERY offended. Most gay people I know are offended when the word is used this way. Either those who claim to be gay and not offended are lying about being gay - or they are gay Uncle Toms.
Lighten up people.
Gay! I mean, really gay!
Why are gays so sensitive? Geez people get over it and live your life, who cares what other people think
As an American who happens to be gay, using the word 'gay' to describe something as being less than or not equal to is harmful and frankly it's rude.
This has nothing to do with having thick skin, this everything to do with mutual respect. Name calling is not ok. Name calling and mocking people for their differences is indeed a form of bullying. Gay kids, especially, are vulnerable to this type of behavior because all of their young lives, and during my lifetime too (I am 35) have constantly been reminded how much less of a person we are compared to others.
Being respectful of others and their differences is what allows a society to grow and come together and become a real community. Words are powerful, they are the most powerful force we have, and when used to abuse, bully, mock words can push people to do things they probably normally would not. On the other hand, when words are used to love, be kind, and encourageing people will do incredible things and change the world for the better.
Our choice of words can devestate or empower – it's your choice of how you wish to impact a life. We all have a legacy to leave, do you want yours to be that of intolerance and hate or would you rather be remembered as being kind, loving and encouraging.
Your choice – mine is to be the latter.
Jeremy, Jeremy, Jeremy: You just called ho mo se xual kids gay in explaining that the word gay should not be used. If neither word can be used, then what do YOU use? Bias and discrimination is WRONG. Different meanings for the same word are not! That's really the sum of this entire Blog. The natural and spiritual knowledge that a behavior is unnatural and animalistic is another topic altogether. Even if the BEHAVIOR is disagreeable, we still love and respect the person.
@Rajah – read my post again – carefully. The first sentance – "using the word 'gay' to describe something as being less than or not equal to is harmful and frankly it's rude." I think you missed that very important part.
I identify as gay, and I find it incredibly insulting when someone uses this word in derragatory manor. I never said not use the word 'gay'.
You may wish to re-read what I posted.
This whole thread is supermegahypergay.
jesus christ... really
i think vince is correct, it wasnt an insult to people..
i love this day in age... no matter waht you say.. someone is going to comlain, start aprotest or just flat out whine.. theres always a group somewhere upset about something..
i watched taledega nights last night.. will ferral says something about gays, nothing wrong with that.. people just need to stop complaining if it isnt harming them
there is nothing right about being gay. there are two types of gay, 1 you are born with a chemical imbalance like depression or a mental disability like down syndrome and 2 that over the years people consistently wanted to say it is right and your curiosity got the best of you. either way good parents need to teach their children that gay is wrong and those who are dont need to be bullied or chastised, no one should make fun of a tard.
Who the f........cares. All of CNN reporters must be gay. Nothing on CNN other than gay issue. Stupid.
This whole argument is gay. How about nixing the use of the word "breeders" by the GLBT people? I'm so sick of everyone being so sensitive to every word spoken on tv and radio.
The internez is gayz
I am so SICK of "political correctness". People of all kinds need to get a life. We have so many other things in this world to worry about then the use of the WORD "gay" in a movie. If you don't like the use of "gay' in this movie, then don't go see it but let others enjoy themselves.
this subject is gay...its a good joke. deal with it,. gays make the same type of jokes about straight..example..Will and Grace...
Every culture is stereotyped. As a white guy, I see people acting white. I see certain clothing styles, and think 'how black'. I might see pickup trucks and think 'how Mexican'. Asians getting good grades... the list is endless. Gays are a culture, too, and are liable to get mocked or derided by any other culture.
But someone had a good point – you might say things to your friends, but not to strangers. I may use or think the term 'how gay', but it would be very rude to say it in front of some gay guy.
I just saw a video today where people were asked if gays were born or made. After someone would give their view, they were asked 'and when did you decide to be straight?' That's such a simple, powerful question! When some had to defend their 'nurture' theory, it was like they suddenly ran into a wall!
Good grief! I remember when Gay meant Happy. Get over it! I have a retarded sister. How do you think I feel when everyone says "that's retarded" or "what a retarded idea". If you get offended by every little foolish comment, then you must have an emotional problem. Uh-oh, did I just associated gay with an emotional problem? The moderators will have a fit.
Anyone see the VIEW....those woman are pretty darn gay, right?
I don't think there is anything gay about electric cars. There is something gay about being gay though.
So now no one can say the word "gay??" What happened to freedom of speech?
I don't think electric cars are gay. Pink electric cars (and any color VW Beetle) are certainly gay.
In other words, we don't agree with you, so we want you silenced. Stick to your guns Vaughn. People are too up tight.
Anderson Cooper looks like a twink.
Our forefathers defeated the mightiest army in the world to bring about our nation.
Now we get in an uproar over one word.
We've come a long way, baby....
I think JC is a freakin genius and MADCITYBABE is hot (regardless of gender).....a lot of these posts are about how Vince Vaughn feels about something INSTEAD of what he said and all SEEMINGLY to prove a point about political correctness and to resolve everyone's hurt feelings through his one sentence FROM A MOVIE. I am black and I know that a lot of people would get upset if the phrase 'well, that's black' were to be spoken by someone. I wouldn't be offended because I know who I am. I was teased excessively when I was young. It made me stronger. Of course everyone wont have the courage I had or the love and support of family BUT that should not turn us into the thought police of each other......I mean really people......what is going on with this world?????
What's going on? A lot of stupid and too ittle common sense, that's what gmc.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought we, as Americans, live in a country that has freedom of speech. If I say something is "Stupid" does that offend all the "Stupid" people in the world? Where do you draw the line? Do we remove all the adjectives from our vocabulary so we don't offend anyone?
you people are sooooo WHITE.....not a funny one in the bunch...soooo white.....hahaahah
OH MY GOD! I'm so sick of this stuff. Tell the special agendas to get a life and stop trying to control everybody's thought processes and language. Soon we need to revolt against these groups like GLAAD or run the risk of all being lobotomized ala Clockwork Orange.
A lot of you are talking about the context of the word "gay." But in the context of, "Prius' are gay," what is gay supposed to mean here? Stupid? No, they are implying that Prius' are cars that a gay person would drive, thus inferring a slur against gays.
As a teacher of teenagers, you all have no idea how sensitive these kids are and how hurt they are by words that equate them to being stupid or inferior. I also work with a man who has a profoundly retarded young daughter and yes he is offended by the use of retarded as an insult. And he is very thick skinned.
If you use gay to mean stupid, say stupid. Why does it have to be gay?
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this conversation is so american
Well, there can be only one good answer to this problem. Perhaps if everyone would consider to start using racial slurs in context with what they think is funny, perhaps others would finally get the message of what that really means.
I think that people miss the point. Language evolves. Words frequently do not mean what they did previously. Just last night, I sat hear a group of girls who told another girl that she could "Suck It". Taken literally, that seems impossible, being that only females were involved. So the actually usage reflected a derivation of the original meaning. My opinion is that the same can be said about the word 'gay' as it relates to the car. I do not interpret the usage to connote hate, nor the act of penetration in a manner most churches do not like. Keep in mind that Gay meant an entirely different thing to my grandmother, as recently as 1970.
These are words, people. I do not condone hate filled actions. I do not condone discrimination. But there comes a time when we must leave words alone, and concentrate, instead, on intentions.
This Story is GAY!!!!!!
@interhumor
you what else warms the blankets on cold winer nights? Farting in it! lol there thats humorous, and doesn't offend anyone.
So I guess it's okay to start saying "that is so black" or "that is so Jewish" or "that is so Southern white trash" and that's okay? right? . Only blacks should make jokes about blacks – Jews can make fun of Jews and gays can make fun of gays. So that must mean that Vince Vaughn is gay – right?
lame means "simple minded" likr using the phrase lamens terms. it just means uneducated, i think you area confusin the lame, with mamed!
RE: Meagain
lame:
–adjective
1.
crippled or physically disabled, esp. in the foot or leg so as to limp or walk with difficulty.
2.
impaired or disabled through defect or injury: a lame arm.
3.
weak; inadequate; unsatisfactory; clumsy: a lame excuse.
4.
Slang . out of touch with modern fads or trends; unsophisticated.
Personally, I find it offensive that someone would use me (I'm gay) as a way to put down something they don't like. It would be like someone finding something they disliked and saying "that's so black". You know that everyone, including myself, would be upset if that became the catchy phrase. Why should "that's so gay" be any different? Please don't use a characteristic about me to slam something you don't like. It's extremely rude and derogatory.
Wait, let me get this "straight." According to Mr. Vaughn's reasoning if I use words such as ... ret*rd. nig8*r, K*ke, Pol*k, etc it's going to help me make the world a better place?
I understand the southpark analagy completely. but it is private show on a private network. believe me you won't see anythink chastising Jesus or his teachings on any public network.
RE: momomiester
FYI, by using the word "lame" as you have, you're violating the Americans with Disabilities Act.
I love reading the posts on here. It makes me feel gay!
BTW, thick skin is good, it keeps me warm on cold winter nights. People, there's more things in this world to worry about then who's being called what. What ever happen to hands across America.
Thank god someone is starting to stand up to all this PC bull....well said Vaughn!!!!
GLAAD is gay, Anderson Cooper is gay, and electric cars are gay.
I hope you are not a Republican, because if you are, and you think electric cars are lame, then you are supporting Middle Eastern countries that do not like us very much. Electric cars are a way to free ourselves of oil and, in the process, from supporting countries which would like to do us harm. Electric cars are American, oil is not.
People have a choice to watch or not. I 'm offended when South Park wants to make lude and offensive remarks about Jesus Christ, but I just turn the channel or not watch it period. I'm also offended when I want to watch a movie with a great or funny story line but have to endure all the unnecessary nudity. But I don't hear people having such a debate regarding these offenses as much as someone using the word "gay". Just don't watch what offends you. It's not a perfect world and never will be.
but electric cars ARE gay!!!
Indeed
This conversation is SO STRAIGHT.
God works in mysterious ways. maybe he's making so many gay people because the world is becoming so populated that our planet needs some sort of population controll. and maybe he is testing so called believers, and thier ability to accept and forgive for something they deem as sinful. Live and let live. The golden rule. "do onto others as you would have others do on to you" and since we are all sinners maybe we should let each other be who they are. and leave the judging to god!
As a gay person, I don't have any issue with the word being used in this movie. I use it myself all the time to describe things. If we can't laugh at ourselves, what a miserable sterile world we'd live in.
I suppose we could all just learn to sit around quiety, use only 'approved' language, avoid eye contact (BUT not so much as to be offensive), and be un-funny w_ssies like Anderson Cooper. It's OKAY to be offended.....but its NOT okay to burn the books that offend you.
Yawn and eye roll. I'm gay and I listen to coldplay.
I miss the old days when freedom of speech meant freedom of speech instead of all this censorship. But, hey, I've got all my Beatles records ready to burn because some musician said something about a religious figure and that must mean his art should be destroyed. Oh, wait, they did that already. Haven't we learned ANYTHING from "Footloose"????
This whole controversy is just.... well, Gey.
@ CW
first of all if you take the bible literally you will understand it is full of BS. should football players stop playing football because the bible says it's a sin to touch pigskin? Should we stone women to death for wearing two diffenent garmets in the kitchen. And why aren't guys allowed to have concubines, the bible clearly states that! but since it doesn't jive with the majority of people we tend to over look that. just like the bilble says we should kill the first born male child from every grecien family. i guess you would think that is okay too because the bible clearly states that aswell. so if you are goind to try to use the bible in a literal since. don't pick and choose which parts are okay wth you.
@ Meagain,
Okay.....since you know little about things.... You have the Old Testiment...and the New Testiment. Now first your going in crazy tangents doesn't say we can't touch pigskin....about stoning....I point to your story where Jesus said cast anyone without sin cast the first stone. Read the gospels...marriage is between a man and woman....no concubines. Killing of the first born....yes...there were times in the BIBLE where this did happen....MEN MADE THIS CHOICE...WASN'T GOD!!!! SEE GENESIS...WHEN THE EGYPTIANS KILLED THE MALE BABIES...B/C...THEY DIDN'T WANT THE ISEALITES TO MULTIPLY....
SO....I WILL SAY AGAIN....UNTIL YOU APPLY WHAT IS SAID IN THE BIBLE TO "DIE TO SELF"..."PUT TO DEATH YOUR WANTS"...IN ORDER TO LIVE RIGHTEOUSLY....GAY LIFESTYLE....GAY MARRIAGE...ALL FORBIDDEN....AUDULTERY(CONCUBINES)....FORBIDDEN....SO....DON'T GO OFF ON THIS SILLY STUFF....THE BIBLE IS PERFECT.....PERIOD....NO ERRORS IN IT PERIOD!!!!!
Dude please read the bible (and not just the king james version, read the real one the holy bibie) if you're gonna try and make people feel ashamed to be who they are. and yes Men are allowed to have Concubines, read the story of JOBE. and what is a concubine? welll that would be another female to sleep with other than your wife. So keep in mind that the word adultry only applies to women, or men who sleep with someone elses wife. but the bibile states it's okay for a married man to sleep with single women who are not his wife. sounds a little discriminatory huh? Maybe because it was written by MEN!
Sorry, but as they will find out in the end....It is wrong to be gay! We as a society should not advocate it or justify it. I am not here to judge, but I am also not here to condone. There is only one judge and his feelings have already been expressed. Vince Vaughn is funny as hell, and the gay reference was hilarious.
Vaughn said it the best. The comments were made in a COMEDIC movie. We can poke fun of ourselves and each other. Keeps all of us honest and knocks down those who take themselves too seriously.
Even the acronym GLAAD, properly Glad unless you're Dutch, is a synonym for "Gay". Like that was an unintended side-benefit of the short name of that organization. Seriously – relax.
I want to add two words that can not be used anymore since gay can not be used. I was made fun of in school because I was short and skinny. Everyone needs to stop using the words skinny and short!!!
It should be replaced with "silly" or "feminine" or "flamboyant" or "dramatic" or pretty much any other word used in comedy to tease gay individuals.
The writing in these comments is so black.
Well maybe that's cause all YOU see is that white background! Lets change it all to gray. The same shade. So no one can see our crazy comments.
JC – Well put. I completely agree. Gay rod.......heheeheeheh. Just kidding
So if we give GLAAD the word gay, will they give us the rainbow back?
Electric cars are gay, whats the big deal?
@ me
Okay....I hear you....GOD teaches us to accept each other....not to accept each others sins....GAY IS WRONG...NO MATTER HOW YOU LOOK AT IT!!!!...PERIOD. Now with that said lets talk about forgiveness....my prayer is for all Gay people to repent...now what does that mean....TO TURN AWAY....STOP SINNING....(in THE BIBLE IS SAYS TO DIE TO SELF)....THAT MEANS TO MAKE THE CHOICE TO STOP SINNING....BEING GAY IS A SIN....NO MATTER IF YOU CAN QUOTE THE BIBLE COVER TO COVER. You can know the BIBLE cover to cover...but until you apply...ALL OF WHAT IT SAYS...NOT JUST THE PARTS THAT FIT TO YOUR LIFE....THEN AND ONLY THEN ARE YOU WALKING IN RIGHTEOUSNESS. Even then...we all sin....you don't ask for forgiveness for being gay....and then continue to live and act as a gay person....that isn't true repentance.
I prefer to live my own life with my own morals not someone else's morals that they made up thousands of years ago to make money off gullible people. Is that a sin?
@ Matt,
Yeah...keep living that way...."by my own morals"...when we all stand before GOD....you and only you will have to explain "YOUR MORALS"....That is the reason GOD gave us all THE BIBLE....your choice to follow or not....I'll be praying for you....if you read it....HELL IS WHERE "YOUR OWN MORALS" WILL TAKE YOU.
Say what ever you want to who ever you want. just don't fool yourself into thinking that free speech means there are no concequences for what you say.
i think this whole argument is gay!
electric cars are not gay (mostly because they have no gender) but they are effecient, help protect the enviroment, and is a new innovation that is here to stay. and bigots time and time again can't handle what's new. and they get p o'd at those who can or who like change. if he thinks they are stupid why not say that?
Electric cars are not so environmentally friendly as people believe. here is an article that talks about some of the initial negative environmental impact that exists because of the Prius. http://www.thegreencarwebsite.co.uk/blog/index.php/2009/06/26/could-the-prius-be-harmful-to-the-environment/
If there is such a thing as a gay car then an electric car would definitely be gay. It doesn't mean it's not cool in it's own right but it's just different than most other cars, if you get in expecting a typical car that can be shifted with a clutch and makes engine noise under the hood when stepping on the gas then your reaction to sitting in the car would probably be "this car's gay!" It's not bad, it's just gay
polish saugage in my grinder.
GLAAD is so gay...
The main point of this whole thing is that there's nothing wrong with being gay....and there's nothing wrong with electric cars, it's just that electric cars are gay. Why is this so hard to understand?
Wouldn't gay people want to be associated with electric cars? At least they're not being associated with gas guzzling SUV's like soccer moms. Honestly, what should be more offensive?
This whole discussion is gay. Americans have turned into a bunch of p|_|ssies.
There are so many REAL problems in the world that it is unconscionable to discuss this rubbish as though it really meant something. You may as well talk about lint in your navels...you will not change anyone's mind pro or con by ragging an unimportant actor in an unimportant movie....Life is tough – you better damn well wear a helmet and stop blaming the world for your discomfort.
GAY MEANS HAPPY. i say this or that is so gay all the time. God u people get offended by stupi s**t. For real. Who cares????? So what who cares who is gay or happy or goes both ways or likes the same s e x? So what. Good lord. Worry bout real things. Go to europe. Europeans dont worry about s**t like that. "Gay or not gay that is the question". Only here people worry about gay crap. God move on...next.
STOP using the word GAY!!! Is offensive by saying thinking about it!! <-being sarcastic. Electric cars ARE gay! Lets see how long my post last.
How stupid! All this because he said electric cars are gay! They are eqating this to bullying? OMG, have we as Americans become so thin skinned we cannot handle this. I'm amazed more and more evey day by our stupidity! What a horrible complete waste of everybodies time.
As someone with a gay sibling who tries to be understanding, this is pretty...g.....no, weak. Seriously though, why is GLAD wasting a moment on a movie that will be forgotten in 6 months when they should be fighting for equal rights under law?
You know how I know you are gay...bc all of you people that take offense to that line are pathetic...IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT DON'T WATCH IT...stop taking offense to every little thing!
Ahhh! Catom that was spoken like a true Bigot! I bet you would like to send alot of people or cultures to other planets. the thing is YOU CANT! you powerless, thoughtless mindless bigot. lol So what you want and what you get are two diffenent things so get over it!
Silence! we are getting to that point. Actually it is pretty sad we are where we just all need to be silent in this world because what word next will upset someone. I'll bet something in these few words has upset someone somewhere.
This is gay
This article is the gay.
gggggggggggaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
I though he meant HAPPY!
get real people, electric cars are gay, and people laugh at and with fruity characters plain and simple they are different from the norm and that is what makes them humorous. Mel Brooks never would have made a comic masterpieces if people were as thin skinned as they are these days. being politically incorrect keeps the air light and gets issue out in the open for people to discuss and laugh about ie Blazzin Saddles etc
The more I hear about these groups raising a fuss about words....THE MORE I HATE THESE GROUPS!!!
We should ship off all the gays to the moon that way they can sit around and not be offended by anyone.
use that phrase in the movie. it's a private matter and is okay because it's private. but to put it on public television is wrong.
@CW,
God didn't write the bible, his disciples did. Men. Men (humans) are flawed. They fear what they do not know. Get to know a gay person and I bet you anything that you could find one that knows the bible better than you do. In fact, I can name one who knows it front and back and can probably out quote you. Him being gay doesn't make him any less loved by God than you or I. God also teaches us accpetance. Oh and forgiveness. I'll forgive you for being ignorant
Have a blessed day.
@ ME
Yes the bible was written by Men....BUT IF YOU HAVE READ THE GOSPELS. The LORD said that he gave all of them the Holy Spirit....that means.....GOD WAS WRITTING HIS BOOK THROUGH THEM. GOD IS PERFECT....SO HIS WORD IS PERFECT....he made no mistakes....read my other post directed for you. Also....I pray for you...b/c....you and all these "its okay to be Gay people"...and the "GOD word isn't applicable anymore" need it.
You know what you need CW? Some English writing lessons. You're just furthering the common opinion that Bible-literalists are uneducated, gullible, backwoods hicks. The same way GLAAD further convinces people that gays are all hyper-sensitive, emotionally unstable girlie-boys, you convince people that Christians are judgemental, self-righteous, brainless idiots. You drive more people away from Christ with your rants than you bring to Him with your love.
I find many of these posts to be so ridiculous. When one is not gay, jokes referencing gays should really not be made in most cases. Not in this climate. We gay people can make fun of ourselves. I certainly do not appreciate it when others do. Besides, comedy at its best is joking about the more privileged, not the down-trodden. When you slur and slight those who are discriminated against, you are feeding the fire for more discrimination and stereotyping.
Nobody chooses to be gay, cause really who wants to be gay?
i do
I <3 the c0ck
It's sad that we're so concerned about single words that we don't see the huge problems that are bringing us down.
Censorship helps nobody. What it does it create a world where I will communicate open and honestly (with language I feel like using) with those who are like me. For those who are not, I will censor myself and use patronizing language as to not offend you. Sorry, but this is what the world is coming to. You (if you're not cool) will never be able to hear anything that I believe may "offend" you.
Being gay is just as natural as being straight. god made us all!! it's not a choice it's who we are.
Well I had a much nicer and more thought out post, But CNN filtered me out. That is truely GAY
Why do so many people get offended when the subject of ridicule comes up? Respect for the feelings of others is a GOOD thing. Hurting the feelings of others is BAD. Does Mr. Vaughn want to refers to stupid moves in his movies as "retarded". I am not sure that my opinion of what a character in a movie should say is all that important. I just know that I should not use the word GAY as an insult.
Why can't we all get along.
Why do conservatives spend so much time worrying about their right to insult or shoot someone - those are not family values.
CW I'm guessing you don't know much about your own bible. for one thing god tells us not to judge, for that is his job. And when everyone was ready to stone Mary for being a w**** what did jesus do? He clearly spoke against the bible and said this is not right. the bibles says to stone the w**** to death. Jesus said not too. So where do you stand?
@ Meagain,
Here is where I stand...Yes God gives us all a choice....to do what THE BIBLE says....Gay is not right per THE BIBLE. I Love Gay people....God commands us to Love our neighbors....BUT....He also calls us to speak the gospel to those who are lost....Oh the thing about forgiveness requires us to turn away from your sins....and sin no more.
So much anger, meanness, and ignorance.
I love Vince. Great to see him stand up and not cower in the face of backlash, like so many others do.
He owes no apology to anyone for his joke.
Not happy about it? Then don't buy a ticket.
Well said
the fact that this is even news is gay....How's the strait guy (Anderson Copper) going to get offended by this but most "gay's" don't give a ****?
Anderson Cooper is not straight it is a known fact that he is gay.
Well. Mr Barrios.. being gay IS wrong.
Lighten Up if a man shoves himself up your bum does that make you gay?
@meagain – Mmm, so close to being a good retort, except your analogy was wrong. Your question should have pertained to the guy thrusting his bum forward. But, to answer your original, "No, unless of course, I were to welcome it...then yes."
@ lighten up!
I thought it to be a perfect reference concidering you and the car you were talking about earlier are both without a brain. two lumps tryin to make sense of something totally oblivious to you! but you prolly don't get this remark either being you are without a brain appearantly
Vince Vaughn is gay. Another lame movie out of Hollywood ... the dumbing down of America.
what an fn joke .. if you dont like it, then stop being gay
The best way for the left to fulfill their agenda is to make everyone in the military gay and make the "Don't ask don't tell" policy only apply to Muslims. That way the Muzzies can kill more effectively.
How is this still news? It's a stupid movie trailer. Only a bunch of fudge packers could keep this thing going. Go back to smoking the poles you were before anyone heard of the newest Vaughn fiasco of a movie.
@ tpn51
Your right....God created us in his image.....DOESN'T MEAN IF WE DON'T LIVE BY HIS WORD THAT HE IS GOING TO SAY....ITS OKAY.....COME TO HEAVEN....I DIDN'T REALLY MEAN THOSE THINGS WROTE IN THE BIBLE. Your right...God loves everybody.....BUT HE ALSO CALLS US TO STOP SINNING....EXPLAIN BIG TP....HOW IS IT THAT GAY IS OKAY!!!!! ITS NOT!!!!!!...YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND THE BIBLE...IF YOU DID YOU WOULD KNOW THAT THIS IS A SIN....WHERE IN THE BIBLE DID GOD SAY....THAT MARRIAGE IS OKAY BETWEEN TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN....YOU CAN'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This article is SO gay!
I saw a Prius rear end another car in traffic the other day...is it okay to call that electric car gay? Still pejorative?
All of you shut up and quit being so sensitive. If you don't want to hear it, turn the channel or don't watch/support the things that you don't like. However, if gay's want to argue – "Stay out of what I do in my own bedroom" – then they need to stay out of what some in the world think is harmless comedy.
If violent games/movies don't cause violence, how does a trailer for a movie that maybe 10% of the population will actually go see cause hatred??? A bunch of morons on these sites!
Oh so now people want to own certain words and I can't use them any way but in the way they require. Why does someone have to own "gay." If you want to be accepted do as Vaughn suggests – get over yourselves. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay
scrooyoo, I'm glad you can see the difference between a compliment and an insult. but this time the word was used as an insult.
to all of those people who say being gay is wrong, let me ask you this...are you a god? do not judge others until you judge yourselves. chances are, you will find, that You are the sinner
To Human – I'm not a god but being gay is wrong and so is murder. Do you thik murder is ok? It's not. That doesn't mean I'm judging, just stating the facts.
all of this over one word. thats just r3tarded.
I've worked with Vince and I"m surprised at his reaction, considering I personally feel that he is a closet gay himeslf. Interesting take.
this article is soooo gahy.
Context is everything. Using the N word, or describing something as "black" or "jewish" in a pejorative sense is definitely insensitive and those groups have a right to be offended. HOWEVER, if a comedian uses those words or phrases sarcastically/ironically to point out the inappropriate nature of a literal and heartfelt comment then the result is exactly as Vaughn describes. It turns the hurtful words on their heads and points out that using them in a literal, pejorative sense is uncool. too often i see ______ rights groups complaining about any use of a word that offends them, regardless of context and whats actually being said. they're just reacting to a word. reality is complex, and having a knee jerk reaction to a single work or phrase tries to deny the truth that all of life is shades of gray.
What if we said 'gay' in the same sense that they said 'bad' in the 80s-Meaning gay could mean something is awesome.
Like"This sausage pizza is so gay"
There is nothing new about using pejoratives in movie dialog. There, it is artistic expression, and it is left to the viewer to decide how to evaluate the character who speaks it. However, putting the dialog in a movie trailer converts it from art to advertising. In that context, it was clearly offensive, clearly uncalled for, and probably put there by someone who is (in real life) every bit as insensitive as GLAAD says.
Conclusion: Take it out of the trailer, leave it in the film. How hard is that?
Why do you – or anyone like you – think that it's your call, Chris???
Anderson is only doing what's needed to be done for a long time. It cracks me up that anytime someone stands up for another culture they too get belittled. So to you Anderson Cooper I say thank god there are some people who still have the back bone to stand up to idiots!
Anderson Cooper should stop whining and Come Out of Teh Closet Already!
right donna it was his character saying that. and his apology isn't as heart felt as it is a free promotional ploy to get small minded people to watch his small minded movie!
Good. I'm glad he's getting some free promotional boost out of this boring, ridiculous debate. Like GLAAD don't grab every free promotional opportunity they can.
Small-minded movie watched by small-minded people? Why? Because the word "gay" was used in the trailer, in a way you found objectionable. How very, very small-minded of you.
Anderson Cooper definitely has a gay agenda.
Gee, wonder why?
This article is gay and Anderson Cooper is a flamer.
I feels so GAY just to read this article
this whole article is so GAY
This is silly. His CHARACTER said it was gay, he didn't. Are people going to protest every character that says something that's inappropriate?
I doubt people are going to stop using the word in this way simply because it was removed from a Vince Vaughn movie.
it wasn't use to mean happy! Jen
If you honestly thought that was intended to be 100% serious, you need some help. It's a statement about how words are used and how their meanings shift and change.
I'm confused. I thought gay meant happy?
This article is gay.
I should have said "more problems than dealing with being GAY". Because of course, I'm now editing myself just in case I offend someone.
I wonder 'That's so straight' ever going to be popular...
it already is in music saying something is too straight is the same as calling it boring or lame...
Actually, being a square kind of means the same thing as being straight. So lets all say "electric cars are square", wait it doesn't sound as funny.
It was hilarious. Any person that doesn't think so is gay.
marc what you have said. sounds to me like all religions.
the Bibile is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a turd by the clean end
Roger you still get your ideas from a book that was written by man (not god) 2000 years ago. maybe you should
.
read a history book or a science book you may find that the world isn't flat and the earth isn't 6000 years old. and i'm sure if you pray hard enough Santa Clause will bring you one
Rubin you are right on the mark! Well Said
You speak as if enlightened and know for a fact that what was written by the "hands of men" was not, in fact, inspired by God. Perhaps you could shed your profound wisdom with the rest of humanity since you clearly have found evidence that God does not exist, something which has eluded men for thousands of years. So easy to discount and criticize the Bible; but yet you present no hard fact to the contrary aside from your own "opinion." Go does some light research on the authenticity of the Bible against some of the more widely accepted texts written over history. Do everyone a favor and report back your findings. Then you will be truly enlightened!
...the Bible is rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media?? News to me.....
I doubt very seriously that's new to you. I'm sure you're an avid fox news viewer!
and li'l freak. I know this may be hard for you to believe, but god didn't write any bible, anywhere at anytime. not matter what "man" told you that god wrote that.. He lied, every word written by man! Sorry
Just waiting now for bald men and blonde women to be offended everytime someone sneezes in their direction.
Geez people – get lives. If you can be offended at a word, you've got more problems than being GAY.
To quote Nick Swardson: "Seriously, how else do I describe a fanny pack?"
They should have kept that line it.
This gay boy here is OVER all this PC crap. Get a backbone.
We live in a hyper-sensitive society filled with people who are easily offended. The result is censorship.
...besides...being gay is just a way for scrawny guys who couldnt play football and burly women who were awesome at softball to find a little lovin
its a boring hack joke to begin with, its olny worth doing bcause someone said you cant.
Anderson Cooper is a gay male, badly pretending to be straight. Just come out of the closet dude, you are not fooling anyone.
coop gets more pushy than hot dog vender in a hail storm
electric cars are GAY.....and that is funny......the birdcage is funny....was that movie banned???? last weeks episode of modern family was funny....and yes, they are gay.....should I not laugh, are they trying NOT to be funny?? do we offend old guys who think they are cool, but are not, in cars that are way to young for them....thats gay and funny...this story is gay..and i'm going to the bar now to discuss just how gay this story is....and everyone will laugh..then drink.. .
I don't complain when I get called a "Breeder". Oh wait, I'm sorry I forgot its different when you're straight.
This whole news feed is gay.
When has a gay person had to drink from a separate water fountain?
When has a gay had to give up their seat on a bus?
When has a gay had to use the Gay only bathroom?
I can't marry another man either so don't give me this "My rights are violated" crap.
noBama...(1) great name...(2) great idea. there should be gay bathrooms...that way they can chek out each other's junk and you wont have to worry about them checking out yours!
What a dumb comment, nobama.
This has got to be the gayest page I've ever read!
Being gay is wrong.
Being you is being igorant, hateful, and small minded. All things considered, gay sounds preferable.
How hypocritical is it to be on your high horse over how offensive and insulting the word gay is while in the same sentence offending the previous posters by calling them stupid or ignorant for disagreeing with you ?
its not because we disagree, its because there is no other word to describe someone still stuck in the 50s on this issue, stupid.
Actually... in the 50's "gay" meant happy.
Seriously...what's NOT funny about a grown man walking around in a dress calling himself "Sparkles"...or "Thparklesth"?
you have clearly never met a gay man, i'ma police officer and completely "normal". You wouldn't EVER know i was gay until i kick the sh!t out of you for calling my husband a "Thparklesth"
all gays should convert to islam move to iran so they can deal with them appropriately
/golfclap
Ignorant stupid people like you prlobably couldn't tell the difference, so you pick on anyone who you think "looks" gay or Islamic.
I agree with VV, when does it end? And making a big deal out of it only divides people. It's funny because, when you think about it, electric cars are great, so gay in this scenerio, gay means great! It was actually a compliment!
This was a pretty gay decision.
That's Right! – The other day I was called a Mexican Landscaper. I told my client that I was from the Dominican Republic not Mexico!
Gay – cheery: bright and pleasant; promoting a feeling of cheer; "a cheery hello"; "a gay sunny room"; "a sunny smile" .
Given the dumpster Vince Vaughn's career has been in lately he needs a hit badly, so I guess any press is good press for him but I think the movie looks like another loser gay comments aside. I'm gay and I was not offended by the trailer, the movie just looks like another stupid slapstick that will probably bomb at the box office. It will be on DVD in a month and forgotten within a year, so I wouldn't stress kids.
If you want "gay" back then I want the rainbow back. It belongs to everyone, not just gays. Also, "gay" used to mean "brightly colored" or "merry". It also means "lame" or "stupid" now. Deal with it.
Being dead is really gay!
Like seriously? I'm totaly in love with my gay side and I wouldn't take offence to that line simply because it isn't offensive. There's no hating on the gay plus lets remember that the word gay means happy as well.
peace and love ppl.
Lets not pretend that there is nothing wrong with being gay, or that being gay is normal. It's not. Being gay is mother nature's way of crossing out bad genes. It is not normal, should never be perceived as being normal. If anything, it is a product of environmental pollution or gender bending chemicals (endocrine disrupters) being introduced into the population. If anything, it should be looked at as the fist hint of the downfall of the species, the extinction of the human race. If anything, it should be looked at as something that is a rare anomaly and an error in the species and should be fixed using gene therapy. If anything, it should be looked at as the disease it is, and the health problem that it really is.
Can you please tell me your credentials? It sounds you know very little about evolutionary biology. Your post is pseudointellectual drivel at best.
There are enough people in this world, we're in no danger of becoming extinct. Too bad your parents weren't gay.
the only reason you idiots hate gays is because its in the bible, its been around awhile its not going anywhere. who are these stupid people. id rather it be bored kids tiring to troll than i would want to see a bunch of adults waiting to pounce on the gays on the EW blog......
Nice use of pscycobabble to try and rationalize your hate, bigotry, and narrow-mindedness Jamie. Yours is about the most unintelligible post I've seen here today.
C'mon Jamie, are you sure you're just not upset that becuase of sciectific advances straight people are not longer needed to sustain the race? pitty!
In any given movie we see swearing, making fun of different religions, making fun of different cultures, using the Lord's name in vain, etc.....but we can't say gay.
I wonder how people would react if he were telling a Black joke in the trailer.
Gotta love the human race. smh.
Wait a minute. Are telling met that the word "Gay" is equilivlent to a racial slur? Gay is not a race or gender. You dont see people comparring the words "Drug Addict", or "Alcoholic" to racial slurs do you?
Who are we to assume what is hurtful to others. Any time someone takes "a fence" they put up a wall. I want to hear what the electric car has to say. I mean seriously. Why is no one worried about the feelings on an inanimate object. Do you know how many times the impenetrable plastic wrapping that clings to a new C.D. has been called names. I know I have cursed and belittled it a few times. Was that electric car male or female? This is an outrage people and we need to get to the bottom of this. Wouldn't it be easier to just say that electric cars are So Elton John. By that I mean Legendary!!! The way Vince Vaughn's comedy is So David Hasselhoff.
When they took the N word from us, I was silent. When they took the F word from us. I was silent. Now that they are going after the G word. There was no one around to stand up against them.
I think the word is offensive and I don't think the trailer should be shown to a general audience, but I defend Vaughn's right to say that or any other word in any context.
I also think it's a cheap laugh, and the writer could have worked harder to describe the character's discomfort or disdain for electric cars more creatively. However the use of the word might be indicative of the character's personality–maybe he is an insensitive non-PC jerk, in which case using a word like that would be appropriate. Content creators should be aware of changing times and changing social mores.
I'm getting REALLY tired of people freaking out over words. THEY DON'T HURT ANYONE!!!! A word, spoken or written, is intangible, it can't hurt you. If you let a word hurt you, you're weak, and sorry, but i feel the world would be better off without you. As for the people who kill themselves over words, while tragic, the fault lies in the person who jumped, not the person who talked. Words can't push you off a bridge, you have to jump. People have given words so much power, as if they're actual weapons. When you realize that words don't hurt, you take the power back.
there are a lot of Gay people who don't identify with being gay,one does'nt have to define themselves as gay even if they don't deny it.It depends on what the definition of is ,is,there are the gay gays, and the gayds which have not become known as gay yet.
It doesn't even MEAN what "gay" means, when it's used in that context people!! HELLO?
One of the folks where I work uses that phrase all the time. From what I gather, folks of a certain age group and local of upbringing tend to that phrase concerning things they find ridiculous. Frankly, I find the use of that phrase to be just too gay for words! I would never stoop to using a gay phrase like that to describe anything!
Would it be less offensive if "gay" was being used as a positive? " I like this cake–it is really gay"
Sara, you are very stupid in how you see life.
There is more than one definition for the term "gay" other than describing a lifestyle that is identified in the Bible as immoral, a lifestyle that is always being thrown in our face in all avenues of the media. The dictionary states ..." ... Gay ... Showing or characterized by exuberance or mirthful excitement ... bright or lively, especially in color ... full of or given to social or other pleasures...". I'm sure that is what Vaught meant... ha...ha...ha. You know, a good thing. But Sarah, does your statement demonstrate your inner thinking process and maybe what you really think of your fellow non-white friends? the "N" word seemed to flow from your lips so easily, makes one wonder.......
I know a lady whose name is Gay but she's straight...go figure
And I just discovered an a**hole whose name is Roger...go figure.
I went to school with this kid in HS. His name was Guy Gay. Guy was his grandfathers nickname in WWII, and so without a lot of thought they named him that. Dude was the best fighter I've ever seen
This story is gay
What does a "gay" horse eat??? Heeeeeeyyyyyyy. Lol laugh a little
Offense cannot be given. It must be taken. REFUSE IT, or it's your own problem to deal with.
Electric cars are HAPPY! Quit reading into things so much. If the use of the word "gay" is offensive then being gay must be super duper offensive.
Here's a basic rule of civility in social situations: You don't go up to random strangers and make jokes about them, or poke fun at them. It's absurd. Do you see people doing this all the time? I do. We call them frat boys... they're tactless and rude.
All the examples I've heard that argue it's "okay" to use the word "gay" in the pejorative cite examples of humor between friends. THAT'S a different matter and it's between you and the person you know, between whom you two have already gone through the process of getting to know each others limits.
But you don't know my limits, or the limits of a 10 year old kid who doesn't have the thick skin I've developed. I guarantee you my skin is as thick as a radial tire. You can make all the insults you want toward me to amuse yourself, but pick on a kid and you'll find yourself the subject of PLENTY of unwanted public humiliation before I'm done with you.
To those who say "there's too much political correctness"... That's your way of saying, "I should be free to be a bigot and an a**hole to whomever I want." We've heard it. We got you. Now sit down, shut up and learn some social skills.
You just did the same thing by calling all inconsiderate, tactless, and rude people "Frat Boys"
And in what world do you live in where adults are making fun of 10 year old kids?
That's about the most intellectually vapid argument I've heard. The term "frat boy" isn't used perjoratively the way "gay" is used. Go ahead and try to justify your bigotry, but claiming offense at the use of the term "frat boy" just makes you look like more of an idiot than you already are.
"We call them frat boys... they're tactless and rude."
Reading comprehension not so hot huh?? How is that not doing the same thing?? What because it's frat boys and not gays it's suddenly ok?
I disagree, being gay is wrong and not something to laugh at...repent sinners!
Being judgmental, ignorant, and narrow-minded in the name of religion ain't so hot either Roger. Maybe you should go back and read that Bible you profess to care about so much, especially the part where Jesus says "judge not, lest ye be judged".
Here ya go......the best definition I've ever heard of this BS political correctness:
Political Correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional,
illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream
media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible
to pick up a turd by the clean end
That's so straight, it makes me want to puke. Disgusting, vile straight people.
Gay is not a race! Using the N word can be deragatory unless it is used by an N...which they do a lot!
GLAAD is so gay.
You know this is why the children of today are so sensitive. I mean really people. This is getting too out of control. First words, now childhood games (tag, can't play that anymore because someone may feel like they're being singled out). I grew up fine and I learned to look past ignorance. I can take a joke and I try to enjoy life as much as possible. No wonder why we have our children killing themselves every day over "words." What happened to sticks and stones? It's not just about having tough skin but enough common sense to tune out the crap and go on about your day. Honestly, I feel it's all getting out of control.
straight people are so gay
WOW it's a frickin movie don't like it don't watch, sorry to say but this is exactly the way the general public talks.
Society has become hyper sensitive to use of words. Fukk, get over it and don't be such pusiees. Get a backbone. just cause some people cry if they get admonished, does not mean a society needs to recategorize all diction around a select few. They are the individuals that need to conform to the norm, not the other way around.
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This whole situation is "gay". The term gay is used to express something lame or lack of interest. Just like the word ho I mean we aren't talking about santa or a garden tool. People need to stop being so damn sensitive. There are bigger problems in america then vince vaughn saying something "gay".
People are way to sensitive these days. This whole discussion/debate is gay.
Sorry Jarrett Barrios, humor isn't the result of PC review and approval meetings.
Vaughn has made his apology and I take him at his word so it's time to move on and leave this behind. My bigger problem is with the fact that Anderson Cooper of all people complained about Vaughn's use of the word. I expect GLAAD to complain about it as well they should. But Cooper needs to stay out of it. So far as I know he's not gay but more importantly as a news anchor he's supposed to maintain a degree of detached neutrality. Sure I know he's a human being and all that but lately CNN seems to think that it has to be part of and make the news in addition to reporting it. That is just plain wrong. Cooper, if you're going to become a gay activist then quit your job at CNN. If you're going to be a news anchor then stick to reporting the news, not making it.
Anderson Cooper is not a news anchor per se. He's an editorial journalist. He only does Op-Ed pieces.
CNN seems to think otherwise Rubin. The above article refers to him as "CNN anchor".
My boss is gay and he is more offended by anderson coppers haircut than someone saying gay in a movie advert.
Wait a second, Hollywood has been telling me for years that "gay" is "cool." So isn't Mr. Vaughn saying that electric cars are cool? Me am confused.
It's so funny...none of my straight friends really understand why I cringe when people say "that is so gay" (and they all say it eventually, which proves how pervasive it's become). Yet they seem offended when they catch me calling straight people "breeders"...
Emily... your friends sound like idiots.
Get new ones
Emily ~
You get offended when your friends say "so gay" but yet you find it ok to call them "breeders"? Seems like you have a double standard.
BTW~I don't see why your friends would be offended at all by the term.
Since I am dumb, I would like all gay people to not call anything dumb. It offends me and confuses me at the same time.
The problem with this joke is it's kicking a group of people when they're down. Joking about blacks, Jews, Christians, women, or any minority is funny... but all these groups of people have equal rights, have equal respect from government.None of these groups are currently fighting to gain the same right that every other american already has. These minorities are safe. HOWEVER gay people aren't. They do not have the respect of politician they do not have the respect of the majority of american citizens (as per the remarks made above it's apparent that gay people still face actual hate from tons of people out there), so making light and furthering a hurtful term is inappropriate.
Give gay people the equal respect/rights we deserve and then please,feel free to make fun of us all you want. Other wise you're just adding insult to injury.
And this bible belt sh!t is ridiculous!! If you want to live in a country ruled by the morals of god move to Iran. They base all their laws on God's book.....
Reading this chain of comments makes me so proud to be Canadian, shame on all of you haters.
STFU, hate speech is free speech, just like gay people like to screw each other in the butt and spread aids. WHICH IS WORSE!!!!!!!!STFU!!!!!!! I am so glad AIDS kills f a g s dead.
you idiot, AIDS kills everyone. The biggest group effected by HIV/AIDS is black women and then gay men.... and thank you for proving everything i just said. what a fool hahaha lo
THIS IS SOOOO GAY!
Making a fuss over inane phrases and political correctness is annoying. Saying its gay, that's retarded, not kosher, and many other references are just part of the language. I don't imagine some gay person when someone says "its gay" nor do I envision a down syndrome person when I chastise myself as "being retarded" and I'm not Jewish but saying it isn't kosher is a saying. I wouldn't know kosher from not kosher to tell the truth but I know the phrase and its meaning for conversation.
Oh, give me a break............as a Gay man, first: Anderson Cooper is just trying to get some press, second: They should have said in the movie "Electric cars are SO gay". This is so overblown (no pun intended) and we should be concentrating on the more important issues that effect the Gay community. Who gives a flip about Vince Vaughn, Electric cars or for that matter, Anderson Cooper (except his boyfriend).
First, he's playing a character, go after the writer not the actor. Second, everyone has a right to be offended, and be offensive. Third, pretending to change the negative use of the word is just that pretending. People are going to believe what they will even if it offends you. Finally, electric cars are often femanine looking, the chevy volt being the only exception I've seen.
totally with vince on this one.
Thank goodness we have Anderson Cooper, CNN's most useless TOOL commenting on this situation. Words only hurt us if we let them.
Uh oh! The PC police strike again!
America is gay.
hahaha...Either get out or stop reading out articles if America is gay. Go back to Bahrain or wherever you came from, Camel Jockey.
I thought gay meant happy? Electric cars are happy because they don't smoke. Smoking is retarded.
Goodness gracious........... would EVERYONE please pull the sticks our of their butts and let us just freaking LIVE already!!!
Whatever happened to freedom of speech? If someone is offended by something said in a movie, you have the option to not see that movie. The same goes for a movie trailer. If it comes on your tv screen, turn the channel or mute the sound. The word "gay" has so many meanings these days. It is unfortunate we, as a society, are so focused only on those meanings that generate hate.
Maybe when he said electric cars are gay, he was being complimentary....political correctness run amok?
Saying mean words to people is bad. It....is....wrong. There should be a new word for offensive language, like badwrong....or badong. Yes, saying mean words is badong.
GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY GAY SHUT UP, I am so tired of the GAY rights and GAY sensitivity, you gay we get it shut up your no better than anyone else, I have gay friends thank god they are not like you little cry babies. And thank you to you that are not. Hell one of my gay friends bought me a straight and proud tshirt and then got in a fight with some ass that started to yell at me for having it on. I say grow up and shut up!
You're name is kind of gay...Chad.
This whole conversation is "gay"!
A piece of advice to those who manage to somehow self-offend themselves (which is gay, btw), know who your enemies truly are. You think it's comedic writing, actors, and jokes that cause a divide? I'm afraid you would be wrong again. Try casting your blameful fingers at the more far-right folks who are condeming your preference and saying that you're the spawn of the devil and won't even grant you the right to be married or fight for our country. hmmm...now there's a divide for you. and don't act suprised. i know many of you are planning on voting that direction this time around. Just understand what you're voting for if you do.
i think in this context the word is being used to describe something perhaps effeminate. electric cars are not lame or stupid. they are effeminate. the yin to the yang of a 400 big block in a early seventies muscle car that would be considered masculine. is that not the proper use of the word that has been altered in american dialect?
It is completely GAY that GAYS have to make such an issue over the use of the word GAY. Hello, you ARE GAY! Get a life. If it was evolutionarily advantageous to be GAY no one would be here today, because unless you prove to me otherwise, a GAY man cannot impregnate a GAY man, nor can a GAY woman impregnate a GAY woman. However, they can impregnate each other, which would be extremely GAY.
This article is gay.
Anderson Cooper GAY you could have fooled me...so he just loves a drippy gooey teabagging
That is so GAY
Samuels...if you really believe that it directly applied to you when Vaughn's character said e-cars are gay, then you're probably right, because that is pretty lame & stupid to think. In my opinion, tho i have the highest respect for the man (gay or not), Anderson Cooper spazzed out on this one. I hate to break it to all of you nice folks in the gay community, but the word "gay" is no longer just about you anymore. matter of fact, it never was.
Gay people stole the word gay, the color pink, fabulous, and rainbows. They should quit complaining or straight people will have to make rainbows cool again.
Vince Vaughn is an a**.What if we started making fun of ugly actors?Would he be offended because he is one? I wonder!
Can't we all just get along?
Your gay vince hahaha.
"You're" not grammatically correct. hahaha.
wow...what poor, poor, display of human tolerance for humor. kudos to those who set "sarah" straight on a irresponsible attempt at an anology. And Chris, i'm assuming that you either are gay or know someone who is to have such an attachement to this particular word. Six gay teens commited suicide in two months? Oh, i believe many more than 6 teens have commited sucide in the past 2 months. But despite that...you focus only on the gay ones. Why is that? Are they more important to you for some reason? it would seem so. As far as this intial topic...Vince Vaughn concept is as about as true as any general stero-type. Which all stero-types are based in some truth.
Let's get over ourselves, people. VV was saying something as a joke, while portraying a CHARACTER in a MOVIE. I'm a short guy...should sound off on every short joke made in an entertainment environment? Why can no one laugh at themselves anymore, or laugh at some good old fashioned "ball busting." If you have to justify yourself or your lifestyle to others because you disagree with something said in a movie, the problem lies with you. If you find this comment offensive and want it banished, I should be able to banish anyone from saying "Gay and proud." Oh that's right, I can't do that...FREEDOM OF SPEECH STILL EXISTS. If you don't like it, protest by not seeing the movie.
vince...how many bags (i count 4 under ur eyes) do the airlines charge u for when u fly?
Maybe he meant the car is happy?? Gay=happy no?
Joking about our differences brings us together- Vaughn ?
The bully who picked on me in class made everyone laugh at me. I guess I missed the humor and wanted to kill myself- luckily I left that school.
and...because someone made you feel bad about yourself we should ban the word Gay. Makes sense. The words "premature" and "ejaculation" make me feel bad and at times I have wanted to cry in a corner. I expect someday I will get over it...at least until the next time. So sad.
BTW -> gays are not 10% of the population. Think about it.....Black folks are about 11%.....does anyone really think, outside San Francisco anyway, that there are as many gay folk as Black folk? Give me a break. It wasn't that long ago the U.N. ussued a report saying that just over 1% of the population was gay......a few more lesbians than gay men......0.6% if I recall..........do as you please if you are consenting adults......this Republican could care less.....but leave the rest of us out of it.
your an idiot if you really think that it won't matter to either party come election time... Gays are like old people – they vote every single time there's a chance too. Trust me – we don't want you or anyone else in our bedrooms, but will involve your arbitrarily angry *** in order to have the same legal protections apply to our relationships. That simple.
as a gay man vince should know better!
When you use the word gay in a negative context it feels like a punch in the stomach. Replace the word gay with black, latino or any other minority and people would be offended. It devalues an entire group of Americans and needs to stop.
This is done to EVERYONE.... so stop being so sensitive!
It's done to White people in "black movies" and by mexican comedians....
It's done to men in almost EVERY commercial to make men look stupid.... we can't figure out that the wife is talking about YOGURT?? We can't dress, we can't cook, we can't shop unless we're shown how by the wife, and when we see a hot plumber next door we go inside and try to break our toilet.... Should I be offended as a male that Carl's Jr. has commercials that show a man staring hopelessly at a raw steak at the market hoping it will cook itself??
As people we make fun of EVERYTHING..... get over it!
Love the free Ad. space this movie is getting. Never heard of this movie until now. Anyone know what the first film to us the word Gay (besides the use to mean happy) Was Bringing Up Baby from 1938.
Mrs. Random: Well who are you?
David Huxley: I don't know. I'm not quite myself today.
Mrs. Random: Well, you look perfectly idiotic in those clothes.
David Huxley: These aren't my clothes.
Mrs. Random: Well, where are your clothes?
David Huxley: I've lost my clothes!
Mrs. Random: But why are you wearing these clothes? (woman clothing)
David Huxley: Because I just went gay all of a sudden!
I wonder who will stand up and be the moron advocate. It's a movie people. Get upset over the hardships of our countries people. Get upset over the death and distruction that has become an every day occurance. Stop being so hateful.
So... does Anderson Cooper not like electric cars?
So, censorship is okay as long as its the right kind of censorship
These groups and individuals (usually Left leaning) that are constantly complaining about what everyone says and does are really starting to get undermy slin. Screw'em if they can't take a joke! Boil all this down and its really a staple of Left-wing politics: their strong desire to control everything and everyone at all times. They feel they need final say....to give their approval to all things........They make me sick!
Electric cars are gay.
How many teen's have killed themselves and not been gay?
How many teen's have killed themselves and not be gay?
The word 'gay' has mulitiple meanings in today's society. It is not just a slang term for ho mo se x ual. (seriously CNN you censor that word? how Orwellian can you be considering that is the accurate word.) Gay used to just mean happy or lighthearted, now it can mean silly or stupid. It is also used as a slang term for ho mo se x ual. To automatically assume the latter is just plain dumb.
to "be quiet":
I am from Texas. Born and raised. Tho what dallas said was heavily rooted in dip-flavored, inbreded retardation, it would seem you stero-type just as easily as anyone else which is rather gay. funny...but gay. and i don't think that's the message/image you're trying to convey. i could be wrong tho.
Ha ha! Yeah, I was only making a joke about how stereotyping can get you into trouble. I know there are a lot of cool people in Texas who "get it", and would count you as one that does. : )
P.S. "dip-flavored, inbreded retardation" is one of the best lines I've heard in awhile! Very nice!
Sharky you are an idiot and a bigot.
Thank you JC, for being the voice of reason!
So let me get this straight, we can disparage our politicians/presidents, lawyers, Corporate America, criminals, other country's leaders and religious beliefs etc., but gays and other "protected" groups are off limits? WHAT'S WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE???? btw, gay does not mean lame or stupid, it means effeminate...and maybe a little lame. IMHO
@ P
Thank you....yes I'm a BIBLE BEATER...This is what the Lord commands us...to do....to help save the lost.
@ Observer,
First Off....you are right....should have said 'THE BIBLE".....thanks for correcting me. By the way....WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT THE BIBLE...obviously you have my prayers....Because when JESUS was walking the face of the earth....he did say to tell your brother's and sister's the TRUTH(WHAT THE BIBLE STATES)!!!!...SEE MATTHEW CHAPTER 18 VERSES 15-18. In these verses it says if your brothers are sinning against you....but Gay people are living in SIN against GOD. YES THEY WILL GO TO HELL IF THEY DON'T TURN AND REPENT AND MAKE THE CHOICE TO FOLLOW GOD'S WAY AND WILL. It is my prayer that they do this so as not to go to Hell. So I'm not judging....I'm telling the TRUTH.
As far as my being a bad christian....No I'm not perfect....but I will be praying for you both as you both need to get in the word.....not societies word but the WORD OF GOD.
You sound like a sound bite for the teachings of Rev Phelps.I was taught the God created man in his own image. Explain that one oh holy one. If this is true and by the way God said it, that means God loves everyone. So I see it's you that knows nothing about the Bible. Your just another idiot misusing the Lord's word.
Whoever responds via these comments and also calls themselves a brother or sister Christian should be REMINDED that the Bible states very clearly in Leviticus 20:13, Deuteronomy 22:5, Romans 1:25-26, and 1 Corinthians 6:9-7.1 that gay behavior is "detestable", "an abomination", "unnatural", and "immoral", respectively. Pretty Clear?
Yes...it's pretty clear the Bible was written by a bunch of bigots.
@ P
Yeah...keep saying those things....We will see who's laughing GOD RETURNS!!!! You won't get to the chance....who you do repent....remember the LORD FORGIVES.
@ Concerned.....Preach on Preach on!!!!!!....now all of you "Gay is okay people".....point to where is says its okay.
Let the movie be released unedited. Please and thank you.
Sincerely, someone who doesn't really care.
blazzing saddles was NOT gay!
everybody needs to smoke sum weed and chill out , pull ur panties out ur ass this subject is gay haha
Hell yeah! I'm gay and I smoke...maybe that's why I think this whole thing is funny and I don't take things personally.
The problem is he wasn't making a joke about gays, he was using the word in a derogatory way. Would he call someone the F word? Probably not. He is basically saying being gay is equal to being stupid.
Being gay is equal to being misguided.
Any man who doesn't get how hot women are (and doesn't want to sleep with any of them), IS stupid. I don't care what you call it.
Electric cars are gay
Vaughn couldn't be farther off the mark. If you say fried chicken is so Black or taco is so Mexican in a duragatory phrase you'd catch it from either race. It's easy to say you know how someone feels, but don't unless you've walked a mile in their shoes.
The word 'gay' has mulitple meanings, it is not just a slang term for ho mo se xual (CNN censors the word). Ho mo se xuals do not have a monopoly on the word gay. There are a lot of happy, lighthearted, silly or stupid people who are gay but not necessarily ho mo se xual.
I could not agree with you more. You are 100% right.
Now, if people went around saying "that is so ho mo se xual" then you might have a valid point RCJ112.
Is it distasteful to say "underdevelopment is a Black thing"? Does anyone laugh at it? Oh yes, you can be assured a few racists will have a field day.
It's unbelievable that the PC bullies have that much pull anymore. There was nothing remotely untoward in the joke; merely the acknowledgement that people indeed do, in popular vernacular, use the word 'gay' in more than one way, and this was a funny way of outing that distinction. Don't forget that it wasn't that long ago that the gay community hijacked the word 'gay' from its then correct usage for their own purposes.
It is Gay..Where is our Freedom of Speech..
The thing that most people don't understand about freedom of speech is how having the right to speak your opinions doesn't magically mean that other people aren't allowed to exercise THEIR rights and criticize what you said. MIND-BLOWING, isn't it?
HARRY REID SUPPORTS GAYS. Vote for Harry in Nevada. Harry loves the gay man!!!
if you can take a 'POKE'.......
you can take a 'JOKE'......
get over your bad feelings of making such a bad decision in your life that you've yet to come to terms with in your mind!!
Suck my pistol,
HARRY REID is WAYYyyyyy gayer than an electric car...
To JC....
))))
Your fantastic! Ur taking it exactly how it was meant to be taken!
This "controversy" is the ONLY reason this Vince Vaughn/B-grade movie has gotten ANY attention! ! !
I just don't understand how gay men enjoy being pumped in the rump?!
because it knocks against my prostate and feels great! Intense O everytime! Yeah BABY!
Yeah. Okay. But your junk ends up smelling like feces doesn't it?
No! Ha ha.
I'm gay, and I think "Electric cars are gay" is hilarious! I know these are ultra-sensitive times, but lighten up people!
I don't care much for Vince Vaughn, but he makes an excellent point. If there's one thing we need now more than ever, it's good comedy to laugh at.
I'm with you. You are a smart person who is secure with your way of life. If more people thought like you the acceptance of our differences wouldn't be so noticeable. I firmly believe that when you make it an issue you bring a negative light to the whole situation. We need to stop creating situations when there is none. It is kind of like the shepard boy crying wolf. He cried wolf so much it created a bad ending.
If there is one thing I've learned from being in a family with five brothers. If you ignore the cussing it goes away. The more you protest the more they do it just to aggrivate you.
Gay people please if u can take a dick u can take a joke
I can, and I CAN! Seriously, it's funny and people need to lighten up.
That's EXACTLY what im saying Bill!!!!
LMAO LMAO
& ur not going to find a bunch a "straight" people crying over it! LMAO LMAO LMAO
I know I can't be the only one LMAO when I read what everyone has posted.....its just too funny!
However, Im thinking Im going to start an uproar the next time I see or hear of a Hollywood Star doing anything or saying anything that can be considered "straight" .... Im sick of being left out of all the "drama" since Im white & straight.....who's with me????
LMAO LMAO LMAO LMAO
This article is so gay.
Hmmm, let me get this straight (excuse the pun), Gay Comedians parody themselves and their society in nightclubs, on Television, and even movies all the time; yet a "straight man" says a "joke", and he is being attacked?!
Hellooooo, "Gay Community", lighten up, REALLY...
Would you prefer say, Richard Simmons to be in a similar movie, and say the same thing about the car?
Or, better yet, he should exclaim, "Oh that's SOOO straight?" Hmm?
(I am laughing deleriously as I type this btw)
You're saying Vince Vaughn is straight? Well, that changes everything.
Here's how I choose to handle political correctness. I say that electric cars are Gay. You say that you are offended? I say that I don't care. I'm offended that you don't want me to express my opinions.
this movie looks gay.
More like gay tuned.
This IS a stupid conversation. So many of you are implying that you are being singled out because of who you are; like it was some kind of civil rights movement. But in fact you are being singled out because of the perverted lifestyle you have chosen. I don't believe the deranged "science" that states people are born gay. That is a load of crap. You choose to be gay. So if you don't want to be ridiculed, then conduct your life according to the way God intended Otherwise shut the F*&^ up and deal with the insults. Who ever said that using the word gay to indicate something lame is correct. You people are lame. There is an overwhelming amount of media attention about this lately, as if it were some kind of Civil Rights movement. It is not. So many people are tired of hearing about it. Get over it already! Surely there are better news stories.
you are gay
I choose to ignore your ignorance.
Such grandiose logic for someone who believes that a man in the sky is watching him, thankyouverymuch.
don't speak for me. I know for a fact that I did not choose to be gay. how can you, as a str8 man, possibly say that gays choose to be that way? how would you know? such ignorance. smarten up.
I totally agree with Vince. In fact I've already sent a complaint to Anderson Cooper. So his character says that electric cars are gay. It's a funny line. Besides, do we only portray politically correct individuals in movies now? I guess we won't have any more movies with Killers in them. After all, I'm sure there are plenty of people who've had a family member killed, so to have killers in movies is insensitive to them. I guess all the record companies will stop releasing music with the N word in them. No more movies with people who cheat on their partner (after all, look at how many people there are who've gone through divorce who might be offended by these types of characters). Not more hot looking girls in movies as this projects an unhealthy body image. Blazing Saddles was a hysterically funny movie but I'm sure you'd get arrested if you tried to release it today with all the PC idiots running around.
You came perilously close to comparing this sh1tty movie with Blazing Saddles. Let's not go overboard, people!
I wholeheartedly agree
Come on, people. Everyone knows that saying something is "gay" is a disparaging remark. Ask any middle-schooler....it's meant to be an insult. People have started to get better about using racial epithets, but are still behind the curve on "gay" and "fat" issues. Think about what you say in your speech...if you consistently use the word "gay" to mean something is lame or stupid, and people hear you say this, do you think they'll respect you?
Perfectly ok to denigrate people for making bad choices – it teaches others not to make the same choices. Fat? That's a choice you made, I will happily make fun of you. Maybe the humiliation will drive you to change your habits, at the very least it will make others who don't want to experience that humiliation make better choices about diet and exercise. Similar being publicly 'gay'. If you have some weird $exual urges & can find someone else who shares them, more power to you! Just keep it to yourself. Some people like to be peed on, but you don't see them having marches & rallies. Same with religion, you want to ignore all the evidence of science, nature and life and believe in some mythical sky fairy, keep it to yourself. If you tell me about your beliefs I will call you a stupid god-squadder and be unable to take anything you say seriously.
Wow, Howie, you really sound like an a**hole! I bet you are (or will be) a HORRIBLE father or human being. Good luck in life, cuz it looks
like you need it.
Sorry, just telling you what a waste of Internet space you are and I hope you'll take this message to improve on yourself. you need a new outlook in life.
people act like they havent heard gay used as a slur in a movie be4 how bout the movie "role models" when the the litttle black kid says "sounds gay" where wuz everybody gettn ass hurt about that? everybody needs to grow up , vaughn did not mean to offend any gays obviously , just one person takes it out of context and makes a whole dam drama out of it what if vaughn said electric cars are straight ? ...then i woulda got offended rite? cuz i cant take a joke, to all u gays if u can take a dick u can take a joke haha
Being a gay man, I take no offense to this comment. It's actually funny, especially since I drive a Prius. Freaking hilarious. Jokes made in good fun are not a bad thing, I don't think it's meant in a derogatory manner. For those who really get that worked up over what other people do need to chill. If you take offense, simply don't watch, simple as that.
Okay,
Let me start by saying this.....BEING GAY IS WRONG......PERIOD.....in this life you have a choice do right(what the bible states to do in living your life and follow God's way in all areas of your life)...OR....do the wrong thing(live life your way....no matter if it is against what the bible says). Let me also say....I pray for all Gay people....to come to their senses and follow what the word of God says....He created Adam and Eve.....PERIOD. Also...I noticed all Gay people want freedom....to do what they want...say what they want.....SO....doesn't that apply here? I guess it only applies when Gay people want it too.
"Bible Beaters are so gay."
You are a horrible Christian not just for judging others, but for spelling "the Bible" with a lowercase B. Hope you enjoy warm climate.
God is gay!
all religions are gay
I think we found the next Bishop Long. Preaching one thing and Jerkin to boys on the DL. The ones who scream about God Made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve are only doing it so loudly because they are screaming it from the back of the closet. Why don't you mind your own business? I hope for gay marriage so that you can finally get free of your shackles. Stop hating yourself. Sprint out of the closet. It's ok to be yourself CW.
@ Erictheruler,
Did that make you feel good? I hope so....one day you and all the "its okay to be Gay crowd" can finally stand before our maker.....YES YOUR MAKER TOO....and explain why you thought the word of God wasn't the Truth. I look forward to standing there watching. I pray for you....as you need it....better yet start reading the BIBLE daily and repent.
CW there has been some breaking news I thought I should bring to your attention. 1st the world isn't flat. 2nd the sun does not revolve around the earth. the earth revolves around the sun. 3rd. Darwin was right, ask any scientist. 4th Evolution is factual. 5th the planet is 4 billion years old. not 6000.
Jesus never spoke on the issue of gays. Not even once! So the parts that you read telling you that being gay is an abombination was written by man, the same men who wrote that it's okay for married men to have concubines. the same men that wrote women should obey thier husbands regardless of what they are told to do by thier husbands. the same men that wrote being black is unholly but one can become wholly if can turn himself white. So while you are praying to an imaginary pie in the sky, we in the real world will stick with factual science, and factual history.
6th we all came from africa, not the garden of eden.7th cir***cisions were done by the jewish communities to promote procreation, so they'll have more people to fight wars.8th the ten commandments were drawn up to protect "properties". 9th if you are sick get medical help, prayer won't help (ask any sain preist or preacher who isn't in prison for molestation of little boys and girls) it certainly did help polio victems, but science came to the rescue didn't it.
u guys r all gay.
Gay was originally defind as "Happy", right? The car was "Happy". There: no harm done to anyone...Let's All Be Friends!
Man, would I love to live in your little bubble of naivete. I'm sure that kids who get bullied for being gay will interpret it as their harassers complimenting them for being really happy! Clearly, that's why they commit suicide!
Chris....go play in traffic
Traffic stops for me, bb.
Hey Chris (and everyone else too)... People commit suicide because ther are depressed. Plenty of people get bullied for million reasons, but duh mist people don't kill themselves. Now I'm not trying to belittle the gay kids' pain for not being accepted, but they clearly needed professional help to deal with their problems. Where were these kids' parents?
I just really think this discussion and most over the past weeks is trying to show that bullying causes suicide. People need to seek help if they are feeling helpless.
But back on topic, I don't care what Vince does. He is gay.
Emanuel lewis officially changed the meaning of the word "gay"....to reflect the discription of "harley" owners...and their disregard for others as they ride their"hogs" about town...
You know, gay as in a fruit loopy kinda way. Electric cars are simply gay looking: FACT. hahahahahaha. Get over it fruit loop.
As a gay African American male, i had to endure even more harsh treatment from my family and friends going up. Everywhere I went, i had to endure being called the "n" word and the "f" word.I had to walk home everyday from school. One day i decided to wear a PRIDE shirt. That’s when a couple of guys up to no good started making trouble in my neighborhood I got in one little fight and my mom gotscared. I whistled for a cab and when it came near the license plate said fresh and it had a dice in the mirror if anything I can say that this cab was rare, but i thought naw forget it, yo home to Bellaire
Hahahaha!!! That is so GAY!
LOVE IT!!
I really wonder at the importance of that scene, it's wording or importance to the plot.
Now if the opening had said something like 'electric cars are: jewish, muslim, ni***r, etc.' would he still think it was funny? Maybe he can use the tagline: hi I'm vince and I'm a small minded breeder. That is just as offensive and lacks humor too.
So if you don't understand why this is offensive, watch the scene and insert your name. Now is it funny? not so much.
ur so gay and you don't even like boys
HEY YOU INTERNET NERDS I JUST REALIZED THAT VINCE VAUGHN MEANT THAT THE CAR WAS SO GAY BECUASE BEING GAY IS COOL I SEE ALL THE GAYS ON JERSEY SHORE AND ROBERT PATTERSON IS GAY FOR TAYLOR LOCKNER SO SOMEONE TELL ANDERS COOPERSON THAT MAYBE VINCE VAUGHN WAS TRYING TO MAKE GAY A COOL WORD AND HE TOOK IT OUT OF PROPORTION
Seriously...is this English? Not only are you extremely out of tune on the issue here, but calling everyone "INTERNET NERDS" after you have posted three times yourself...? Where is your baby sitter?
I'm gay, and I'm not totally offended by the line (although I would rather not hear it).
My problem is, I don't want to pay $9.50 to hear that line and it be called comedy. Richard Pryor, it's not. Try harder. I suppose that's why I don't see alot of Vince Vaughn movies.
As President Clinton said (paraphrasing), we need to think about what we say and the effect of it before we release it into the echo chamber, because it falls on the serious and delirious alike. Once its out there, you can't un-ring that bell.
Hmm... Alisha, was that before or after he spooged all over Monica Lewinski... then lied about it? Democrats, particularly Clinton, are not people I turn to for guidance or example.
I don't know.. I feel like we are all so sensitive and insensitive depends on the situation. I often used the term "~~ is so gay!" but does that make me a bad person? One of my best friends is an openly gay man and I even say it in front of him and he just thinks it's hilarious. He is so proud of who he is that nothing bother him. He tells me "oh you're so straight!" or "you're so gay!!!!" We both laught at each other's silly jokes.
I know when we make everything a problem, what gives? Of course I'm totally against bullying and we need to stop our crisis, but sometimes we need to learn to lighten up and laugh a little.
Whan a questioning 13 yo middel schooler, consistently hears things deemed lame or stupid as gay, they internalize the definition to their own situation. Of course you and your openly gay friend have a differnet relationship but lets keep things in perspective. Belittling (sp) kids for any reason in nothing to lighten up and laugh about.
Samuels: I understand what you're saying. The thing is if my friend and I could have the relationship we've had for the past seven years being open and understanding, why can't others?
We're not born yesterday, if anything the society now should have more openness towards each other whether you're straight, gay, lesbians, etc.
I feel as though we are teaching ourselves to be afraid of who truly we are, rather than be affirm with the our belief of who we are. My friend is 28
and I'm sure he was 13 at some point. He loves who he is – there is NO SHAME of who he is. That's the difference.
You know what? Kids can be very cruel. This hasn't changed for generations. What has changed are kids abilities to deal with it. Everybody has been bullied, insulted or made to feel less of a person at some point in their life. Most can shrug it off. Aside from the media putting a huge spot-light on the specific cases of those gay kids being bullied to the point of hopelessness and suicide... What about everybody else? I suspect those children were already alienated even by their own families. They felt they had nobody they could go to for help. Any normal person would see suicide as a completely last resort. How about you talk to their families and see what they REALLY did to help their kids...
Thank you Vince!! Gay folks who have a problem with people saying something is gay....they are simply just retars.
You're statement makes you a poster boy for this whole discussion. You're referring to others who think different from you as retards, is the same as saying all things bad or lame are gay. It's ignorance like yours that keeps so many folks from seeing the legitimacy of this argument.
I am always a little surprised when people think its odd that gays would be upset that gay stands in for anything that is bad, stupid, or horrible and I'm really surprised he believes joking in that way brings people together. His logic is making jokes that imply gay=horrible will bring everyone together. Everyone wants to blame churches for causing all of the gay bullying, but honestly, I think its stars like Vince.
I don't know G, I don't think Vince was saying that gay=horrible. I think he was saying that in the characters opinion, electric cars are not his preference, and that to him electric cars would be more preferred by gays because of their appreciation for the environment. in this sense, gay=not my preference ... suddenly the term makes sense.
Then again, I could be wrong. It makes me wonder whether or not Anderson Cooper likes electric cars.
@G How EXACTLY does "Electric cars are so gay." make "SENSE"?
Any word used as a pejorative slur, including 'gay,' is meant to infer the person is 'less than' the majority group and either should be shunned and avoided or submit to the wishes of the group in order to earn the possibility of group respect. It's a power trip used by insecure individuals for whom a verbal assault is needed in order to feel good about themselves. It's also the domain of the immature, if not childish. Only the ignorant with a limited lexicon and not much going for themselves internally and intellectually engage in that kind of pointless behavior. Interestingly, offending via verbal abuse is one area of American life that doesn't directly involve race, class, gender, or gender orientation, as it is about character – or lack thereof.
Let's see...
"Electric cars are so black"... that doesn't offend anyone... but African Americans.
"Electric cars are so jewish"... that doesn't offend anyone.... but Jews.
"Electric cars are so Asian" ... that doesn't offend anyone .... but Asians.
Racial/gender-based comedy can be funny when it is based on some underlying truth, and keen observation. Even when it is offensive.
However, this is not the case in this situation.
The English language is rich with insulting words. Find a legitimate one. Stop being lazy. Actually be funny.
That's all we're asking.
"Electric cars are so white"...offends no one.
Hey jb, shut the fnck up! You try to be wise but you're really a dumba$$. That was too simple of an analogy, you didn't explain it enough, and there are too many holes in it that can be exploited. So shut it.
I know gay people who stay things are "gay"
Quit being so sensitive, losers.
Geez, what's with all of the name calling on here...
The point is that Electric cars are really gay, but in a good gay way!! Get over it!!
Sarah – you make no sense. How would "electric cars are so ni**er" even make sense? Now, if they were saying "KFC is so...." Well then, that makes sense.
Get a sense of humor.
@Sarah... u do realize that n**ger is a horrible insensitive and inflammatory word, right? Gay... not so much. Nice attempt at an analogy, maybe next time. The use of gay here is descriptive of effeminate qualities posessed by many gay men, not bashing who gay people are.
Steve: tell that to the six gay teens who were bullied to the point of suicide in the last few months because they were gay. I'm sure they'll understand they weren't REALLY being bashed.
To Chris:
Saying one joke made about an electric car in a movie is the same as bullying someone to the point of suicide is ridiculous to the point of being laughable. Believe me, I sympathize with what those kids went through, I really do, but people need to develope a thicker skin in order to survive. Something we all need to realize is that the world isn't going to change to suit our needs. Maybe instead of trying to stop certain words from being used, we take their power away by making them not so taboo. By putting so much focus on these words, you're just drawing attention to them and making them more powerful/meaningful. Ignore it. Its not a matter of whether or not you should; you just have to. People's opinions and beliefs are not going to change, no matter what words you allow them to use.
@Chris
So only gay people are bullied?
Some names for you:
Phoebe Prince
Hope Witsell
Megan Taylor Meier
Those 3 girls recently committed suicide and not because they were gay, but because they were bullied.
Should we shut down facebook/myspace phone texting due to cyber-bullying?
So yeah I really want you to try and tell me ONLY gay people are ever bullied. Good luck.
Sharky: when did anyone say that ONLY gay teens are bullied? You are not reading what is on the page. Bullying, in any form, is awful. But using "gay" as a slur DOES contribute to the bullying of gay teens. LOGIC.
Joe: rather than expecting the victim of a slur to "ignore" the pain it causes, how 'bout we instead take some responsibility ourselves and not use derogatory slurs in the first place? That takes the blame off the victim for being offended by something legitimately offensive AND makes us better people in the process.
Except Steve Ni*gers can get married our country still won't allow Gays to get married
seriously... people get so offended these days. you say something and they act like it the end of the world. get over it. its a word. who cares what he said in a movie. quit whining about simple things in life. and besides electric cars are gay.
This story is retarded.
As a retarded person, I find your use of that word offense.
Some people talk about 'political correctness' as if it couldn't possibly apply to them. Believe me, there are hurtful things that could be used to insult anyone, not simply the obvious targets. Whatever group you belong to, trust me, you could be someone's target. PC is really not a good term. Sensitivity to other people's feelings is what it's about. Of course, if a character is portrayed as ignorant in the first place then having that character say something stupid and bigoted would work.
Amen. We live in a culture that tells us we should be able to say whatever we want, no matter how hurtful to other people, just because of free speech. We never really stop to think if we SHOULD say these things, and how "jokes" based on slurs can really hurt others– particularly the young and vulnerable in our society. This goes way beyond what is politically correct.
I'm GAY and all for comedy...no holds barred...but only if it's FUNNY. That "joke" wasn't it fell completely flat. Take a cue from Lisa Lampanelli make fun of everyone equally and no one gets offended.
EXACTLY. Why the South Park guys have it right, all people are up for making fun of.
THAT is called Equal Opportunity.
Gay people are singling themselves out, after clamoring to be one with society.
TOUCHE' ... Go Lisa Lampanelli
Vince Vaughn, speaking as an openly gay individual, you are my hero.
What's wrong calling an electric car gay? I thought being gay was a good thing these days...
As evidenced by six gay teens committing suicide in the last couple of months based solely on the fact they were tortured over being gay, I would have to say your statement is highly false. Teens commit suicide when they have no hope their situation will improve. Think about that... moving to college won't reduce the torture. Entering the workforce won't reduce the torture. That is a product of our society's treatment of LGTB people. So, no... its not cool to be gay right now.
ITHOUGHT GAY MEANT HAPPY.....LOL
Gay means "Happy", maybe it's a happy car!
Yeah, people are upset about a word because it's being used as a slur. In a political climate where we have had SIX gay teen suicides in the last two months due to the stigma attached to "gay" as a slur, you bet people should be upset about it. It would have been the same if he used any other slur in place of "gay"– ie, totally unfunny and inappropriate.
So you actually don't even know what slur words are.
So saying the word gay now is now a slur word? Wat are we supposed to say the g-word now? Are gay people even allowed to call themselves gay given you are denoting it as a slur word. Are gay people oh wait g-word people allowed to say "oh that's so gay." So for you they can say it because they are the g-word?
If the line was "electric cars are straight" I would be laughing. Oh wait maybe I should take offense because how dare they use the "straight" word as a slur.
Sharky: do you have any idea whatsoever how "gay" is used in our culture? Outside of its literal meaning, it's shorthand for "lame" or "stupid." It's used as an insult. It's used to harass. That makes it a slur.
Case in point: the literal meaning of "f*ggot" is burning ember. Read any book from the early 1900's and that's what it means. Today, though, "f*ggot" is an epithet for gay, used in a derogation fashion. Used as a slur. Words can have more than one meaning– both a literal one and as a slang slur. It's really not that hard to understand.
And Chris I am female, do you KNOW how many unpleasantly and denigrating creative and colorful words terms are said to denote my gender? and those words have been thrown at me too. Am I supposed to get all uppity and throw a temper tantrum over it?
If people want Equal Opportunity then accept equal joking.
Sharky: I'm a woman, too. And yeah, I get upset when people use misogynistic slurs. I'd rather be "uppity" about not using slurs than complacent about hurting others. Shocking, I know!
Maybe these tragedies are evidence that teens (and others really) just should not be encouraged to share their $exual proclivities with anyone other than their $ex partners. You want to do unusual things in the bedroom, fine. You want to shout it from the rooftops – gay.
Gay is so incredibly tame. It isn't even an insult. If some idiot wanted to insult a gay person they would use something like fa**ot or something else along those lines which genuinely is offensive and has much venom behind it...
The gay kids committing suicide recently, as tragic as each case is, doesn't draw any conclusions. The media has just drawn a huge spotlight on it and bullying in general. What were these kids' family life like? Were they even supported at home? There are many more questions that need to be asked before drawing any ridiculous conclusions.
Sarah...you are an idiot. Two completely different things and you know it, you dumb-ass.
I understand Sarah's point. They are two separate things, race and gender, but an insult is an insult no matter how you choose to use it. I actually think that it's quite childish to degrade or stereotype a group of people, because they are different from you. Whether or not it's pointing out someone's religious affiliation, race, or gender, it's still wrong. I don't think it has anything to do with having or not having thick skin. I think it has something to do with being human, and treating people the way that they should be treated. It goes to show how many grown-ups have refused to grow up when it comes to tactfulness, being courteous and sensitive towards other's feelings.
No, I am not responsible for everyone's feelings, we all have to own our own, but I think there is such a thing as tact and diplomacy. We should all use it – not because I'm scared that someone will take offense, but because it's the right thing to do.
Thank you, Tamar. Well Said. Unfortunately it will go right over the heaads of all those thoughtless, bullying people out there who buy into the idea that they can be as offensive as they want and those who are offended are in the wrong. It is just like hitting someone then saying "You wimp, that didn't hurt" when the person hit says "Ouch." Words are very powerful and can do great damage. We've became not only a less courteous society but an increasingly cruel one as well. So much for being a "Christian" nation ...
Sarah, you're a moron.
this story is so Gay!
Lol...Sarcasm 1...Seriousness 0
I guess he would also support saying that electric cars are so ni**ger?
Cuz it's just so funny to degrade people.
Vaughn, you're a moron.
Your comment is moronic, Sarah.
Ni**ger? How many g's are in that word?
Yes because gay is definitely a race...idiot.
Sarah,
You are right on. Every time I hear some nitwit use "gay" as something dumb I remember that gays are ten percent of the population. The top ten percent. People who use that word disparagingly are so dumb.
I THINK SHE MEANT TO TYPE GINGER CUZ NO ONE LIKES THEM
It is called context you flippin moron. Ni**er is not even remotely close to gay. The people who don't understand the difference are the ones who don't get sarcasm and who's sense of humor is limited at best... Bloody jaded idiots...
Also, I would never use the word gay to describe anything because I think it is terribly low-brow but in the context that Vaughn uses it I actually get and it says more about his character... It shows his character is a little juvenile which is ok. There is a stereotype about people who drive hybrid cars. There is often a bit of truth to a stereotype and I can tell you, living in southern California and seeing all the people who actually drive them, his comment makes sense and is therefore kind of funny...
I agree with sharky...you're a moron. Also, the only way for an electric car to ever be ni**ger is for Cadillac to make one.
Sarah's right. And I have to wonder about the intelligence of people who can't see the similarity. I guess I'll start saying "That's so white" to everything that's negative or maybe "That's so straight."
I made the N word reference earlier.. not to say its the same but.... when thickerskin said gay is just a word.... any word can be reduced to being labeled " just a word" the truth is we are governed by language our expression is directly linked for the most part to speech, sure inflection, body language play a role but we rely on speech to convey our message as humans. Having said that as I do find the humor in the the whole Vince Vaugn gay thing.... It's perception... I can't expect someone to not feel offended about a statement or a subject, especially if it involves emotion, which it usually does. Which is Y I say, leave it in th emovie and not the trailor... after all that banter I do say it does seem trivial... we bloggers seem to make a mountain out of a mole hill at times.... Sarah ur not a moron...
Stay classy, Vince Vaughn.
ALWAYS stay classy.
Dorothy Mantooth is SAINT!
I would take her out for a nice steak dinner and never call her back!
You're so wise. You're like a miniature Buddha, covered in hair.
HEY VINCE VAUGHN YOUR SO DUMB
What are you? Twelve? It is not "your", it is "you're". Learn English.
Internet nerd? Count me as one too, cheefsfury. You have exposed yourself as being an uneducated, low class fool who doesn't understand proper English composition much less more complicated social matters. So just do everyone a favor and keep YOUR opinions to yourself. They don't have an ounce of value anyway.
Electric cars are Anderson Cooper.
So is Serious WT
It's "they're", not "their".
Pretty funny when you misspell stuff while calling somebody else dumb.
Wouldn't an "INTERNET NERD" be someone who has posted ridiculous comments over and over and over again just to see those comments online, all the while not actually contributing anything worthwhile to the issue being discussed...someone, say, like yourself??
Where is your baby sitter, cheefsfury?
NO STUPID INTERNET NERDS ARE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WHO TRY TO SOUND ALL HIGH AND MIGHTY CUZ THEY WIN ON THE INTERNET
Really? What did I win?
SERIOUSLY, WHO CARES WHETHER YOU MISPELL SOMETHING OR DONT USE THE PROPER PUNTUATION. STOP ACTING LIKE LITTLE BITC*HES.
OOPS I PROBABLY JUST OFFENDED SOMEONE! LOL
Most people don't care that much about grammar and punctuation, they just want to be able to read the rants posted here.
No Sigma, you didn't offend anyone, however I think Cheefsfury and yourself make a cute couple.
SPELLCHECK.......THAT COMMENT WAS GAY! LOL
AND YOU CAN ALWAYS READ THE RANTS FROM PEOPLE POSTING, IT'S JUST YOUR BEING ANAL ABOUT IT!!!!
Ok, well it's been swell chatting with you, Sigma and Cheefsfury.
I hope you both find happiness in your special relationship together and I hope you both figure out how to turn off your caps lock...I'm going to go read now...you know, a book...pages...words...never mind.
Cap lock is so gay.... Super gay!
cheefsfury
no one really cares about your grammar; we just get tired of people making dumb posts IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE THIS SOMEHOW MAKES MY POINT VALID... doesn't it? If you would make a comment that actually contributes an ounce of meaningful thought OR AT LEAST DIDN"T HIGHLIGHT YOUR BAD GRAMMAR BY OVERUSING CAPITILIZATION then everyone would be more likely to overlook your grammar issues.
OK CAN SOME ONE TELL ME HOW TO TURN OFF THE BIG LETTER THEN CUZ ALL THE LETTERS ON MY KEYBORD ARE BIG AND I TURNED IT OVER AND THERE IS NO SMALL LETTERS UNDER IT AND IS THEIR A BUTTON THAT CAN FIX MY GRAMMER BECUASE ITS SUPOSEDLY REAL BAD AND PEOPLE KEEP COMPLAINING
All the small keys are under the big ones, Just use a butter knife to take them off. Troll harder plz
I never really thought anyone could be as smart as a bag of hammers, but then along comes proof.
Great answer, Imbetter.
SO I GOT A KNIFE AND I FLIPED OUT A KEY AND I DDINT SEE ANYTHING DO I NEED A NEW KEYBAORD
Hey cheefsfury, your one working brain cell is getting lonely...maybe if you try really hard you can get another one to start working.
Doesn't look like a very funny film. Maybe okay to watch on a wet day when there's nothing else to do.
Here we go again.....somebody is getting in an uproar because of a WORD. People have such thin skin these days – you could easily offend someone without even trying and it's because they got their feelings hurt by something you said. And more than likely, they are the ones who took it out of context and then want you to apologize for it.
Please grow up people!!! My 10 yr old has thicker skin than this!
And there is it, from Coops, the race card being thrown.
Seriously, Coops? What the hell does the word gay, or what Thickerskin said have anything to do with race???
NOTHING
I'm gay, and I think the use of the word can be hilarious. When someone uses the word "gay" to imply that something is lame or stupid, I do not automatically conclude that they are making the same assumption about me. That would be overly sensitive, ludicrous (and QUITE egocentric of me) to think so. And I adamantly agree with Vaughn. The people who are overly sensitive to these things are causing FAR MORE rifts and divisions than the people who use words lightheartedly. And, yes, OF COURSE, ANY word can be used in a hateful manner, but we need to be ADULT enough to know the difference.
Coops As white male, i am offended when you use the term "white majority", it implies negativity and makes me feel like a criminal simply because of my gender and skin.
Samuels as a user of the word "gay" i am offended that you would stereotype me saying that i feel you are lame or stupid. you don't know what i think. I may use the word "gay" to mean a bowl of captain crunch. however I do not think you are a bowl of captain crunch. This is because i'm capable of telling the difference between a silly word and a person.
I could do this all day.
Anytime a "word" is used to belittle, humiliate, or hurt a person it is wrong. If people had more empathy and understanding we wouldn't have to have "thick skin." I am in a bi-racial marriage, my kids are a product of love not ignorance. Never in a million years would I teach my kids to have "thick skin" it only makes them insensitive to others.
Bashing people cause they use the gay word in a the contents of lame is gay.
Thank you JC!!! I completely concur!!
samuels: you're an overtly sensitive jerk. Read what JC said...and yes, that does make you extremely egocentric to think everyone who uses the word gay to be funny is talking about you...puh-lease.
It's really ironic about how you can change your opinion of a word. Until my beautiful grandchild was born developmentally challenged, I saw nothing wrong with the word "retarded". Now that word has too much meaning for me. It hurts to hear it used. And since I'm already over 70 years old, I believe it's too late to grow up (as someone said).
mjinmd: I was born developmentally challenged as well, but still, whenever I hear someone say "that is so retarded" or self-deprecatingly refer to themselves as retarded, it doesn't make me cringe or offend me or get my dander up. They are not talking about me specifically! In the event that they are talking about me and it's meant to be cruel, I counter that with kindness, otherwise I'm playing into it.
Thickerskinthanyou- that was so gay. And I'm gay so I'd know. That was gaaaaaaaay.
I agree! People get offended over the stupidest stuff! Grow up...
"Gay" is not a bad word but that depends on how it is being used. To an educated adult, to say "something is gay" is really funny to me because it is such a stupid childish thing to say ( I think this is the way Vaughn is using it), but the operative words are "educated adult". Kids take the word "gay" seriously and use it to be offensive and belittling and to bully other kids, etc. I don't think the movie trailer with that phrase should be shown to a general audience that may include children.
@Samuels – you're Gay big deal. I'm Straight big deal. No one is implying that you're lame or stupid – only if you let it!. These words have been around forever, just ditzy blond, dumb secretary, accountant.....to name a few – take it in stride because you know it doesnt pertain to you........no wonder no one wants to talk to anyone face to face anymore – we're all getting to F_____ sensitive................my advise is to grow a pair and shine baby!
Buck!! You just made me laugh out loud in the office!
Samuels, you are certainly not gay in the sense of happy and lighthearted because if you were you would not be so upset by this. You may be gay in the sense of silly or stupid, ie you are stupid if you thing the word gay can only be referring to your lifestyle. The word 'gay' has mulitiple meanings you see, and is not necessarily directed at you. Perhaps if you don't want to be offended when others use the word 'gay', then it would be a good idea to stop thinking of yourself using that label, which has multiple meanings, and think of yourself using the more accurate term ho mo se xual. ( which the Orwellian censorship at CNN does not allow so I had to space it out).
oh crap! i'm gay AND white!!! that's so Palin...
Exactly! Just like when people go crazy over "gay marriage" or the "N" word–they are just words. Suck it up and get tougher skin!!!
This is the era of extreme political correctness, don't you know this??? Its gone beyond stupid....everywhere there are people who are waiting to chastise others to reinforce their sense of moral superiority!!!
I watched Blazing Saddles last night...made by a Jewish man and a black man (Mel Brooks, Richard Pryor)......could you imagine the outrage if a movie like that was made today?!??! At least they could laugh about it.....
samuels, gay also means happy or giddy. Words have multiple meanings. Words mean nothing without context. If the statement was gays are gay, I'd agree, inappropriate. Electric cars are gay has NOTHING to do with you or your life style. Nothing in the context or word choice has any association to a person or their life style.
Jokes that hinge on the use of the word "gay" as a pejorative are no better than jokes that rely on racism.
Why is telling a "that's so gay" joke any better than telling a racist black joke?
Nobody can offend you if you don't wish to be offended. No word, deed or action has power over you. Choose to be offended when the word "gay" is used to refer to an inanimate object, and it is your responsibility. Choose to laugh instead, and that is also your responsibility.
It is irresponsible to ask others to filter what they say because you are not willing to take the responsibility for your reactions.
I totally agree with jc. I talked about my relationship with one of my best friend in my comment. My friend is 28 and we've been friends for the past seven years. He's an openly gay man who is SO proud of who he is – there is no shame in his bone. We often joke that I'm so straight or him being so gay. What I'm trying to say is that when I say the things I say to him or vise versa, we have a mutual understanding that we're not prejudice or racists or ought to get each other. We come from a society that tries to teach us to be understanding and embrace the difference (whatever that might be..), but I feel or he feels that we are only teaching ourselves to be afraid..
We all need to move beyond what we've discussd here. If my friend and I could have the relationship that is so open and kind, sometimes comical, why can't others have it? I have such a great relationship with my gay friend because he's so open and he welcomes everything that society has to say. Yes, he gets mad when a little kid jumps off the bridge and yes that breaks his heart, no doubt about it. But he also knows us adults need to grow up and stop blaming each other. He can not agree more with Vince, if we become overly sensitive and defensive, there will be more gap in the society as a whole.
no doubt. This politicaly correct stuff has gone too far.
Vince is right. Nuff said.
Well thats cause your 10 year old is gay.
People say 'That is so white" or "you are so white" all the time to refer to someone who is not hip, can't dance, uses traditional English instead of lingo, or otherwise lame. Is the fact that some Caucasians may take offense to that enough to prevent anyone from saying it? (Answer: Hell no)
His use of the word "gay" does not mean lame or stupid. There's nothing wrong with an electric car, but it is pretty gay. Gay = feminine, lots in California, very liberal. Even if someone said "My car broke down" and I said, "thats gay," it would mean "that sucks." I don't think many gay people would deny "sucking"
straight people are gay
Fingal, to your comment "I may use the word "gay" to mean a bowl of captain crunch" ,didn't you mean to say Fruity Pebbles lol... jk
Here's a basic rule of civility in social situations: You don't go up to random strangers and make jokes about them, or poke fun at them. It's absurd. Do you see people doing this all the time? I do. We call them frat boys... they're tactless and rude.
All the examples I've heard that argue it's "okay" to use the word "gay" in the pejorative cite examples of humor between friends. THAT'S a different matter and it's between you and the person you know, between whom you two have already gone through the process of getting to know each others limits.
But you don't know my limits, or the limits of a 10 year old kid who doesn't have the thick skin I've developed. I guarantee you my skin is as thick as a radial tire. You can make all the insults you want toward me to amuse yourself, but pick on a kid and you'll find yourself the subject of PLENTY of unwanted public humiliation before I'm done with you.
To those who say "there's too much political correctness"... That's your way of saying, "I should be free to be a bigot and an a**hole to whomever I want." We've heard it. We got you. Now sit down, shut up and learn some social skills.
I agree. Kids are bullied whether they are gay or not. Trust me, I was a kid once. Sometimes it's preventable, but the mechanisms that cause it are part of the human psyche. So grow up and deal with it like I did. Goes for the N word too. Black people need to stop beig gay about that.
wow this article and all these comments are pretty gay.
to the person who said Let me guess....you are part of the white majority..... quit being such a racist!
Rubin wrote:
Here's a basic rule of civility in social situations: You don't go up to random strangers and make jokes about them, or poke fun at them. It's absurd. Do you see people doing this all the time? I do. We call them frat boys... they're tactless and rude.
Rubin, why are you calling these kids frat boys? Are you implying that just frat boys do that? I am offended by that! So much for political correctedness you are talking about.
Hypocrite
@Fingal – you really couldn't have said it better!
OMG this whole thread of replies is offensive to me. I am retarded, white and gay!
I so totally agree with you. We'll soon all be walking around with PC dictionaries so we don't trample anyone's toes.
Samuals
You're kinda gay.
The fact that everyone is arguing about this is gay.
Its not about getting feelings hurt, its about what is and what is not appropriate to say. You couldn't expect, for example, for someone to say "That's so black" in a movie referring to something they didn't like without a backlash from the black community, nor can you expect to hear the N word used because of connotation associated with it. To use "that's so gay" to describe something you don't like is an insult to those in this country who are gay whether its taken that way or not.
Then your son can sit there shut up and take it. Gays are a minority and making fun of something using the word gay would be like saying that a pile of horse crap is so Caucasian. It would offend whites, especially if non whites said it. I'm sure someone non gay wrote that line.
@ UGH
I feel sorry for your kids then. Some day (from the sounds of it when they are thirty and finally move out of your basement) they are going to have to face the real world (you know the place where not everything is lollipops and gumdrops) and are going to have to deal with people who don't think that way and don't feel the need to censor themselves for fear that someone may be offended. That is going to be a rough transition for someone who has never been taught "how to have thick skin" AKA "how to effectively deal with: a) comments that were made innocently but still managed to somehow offend your overly fragile psyche -or- b) intentionally offensive comments made by ignorant people who shouldn't be paid attention to in the first place -or- c) honest criticism from those trying to help you improve yourself"
O M G ! whhhhaaaaaaaa...So now COMEDY when performed by a caucasian is wrong but ok for an african....Vince is soooo correct! Pleeease GLAAD – Get over yourselves – You are NOT ALL IMPORTANT...
I wonder if Rubin has the capability of seeing through his self-righteousness to his own glaring hypocrisy:
From his post:
"Here's a basic rule of civility in social situations: You don't go up to random strangers and make jokes about them, or poke fun at them. It's absurd. Do you see people doing this all the time? I do. We call them frat boys... they're tactless and rude."
Basically, in a diatribe about not making jokes at and poking fun at people in a random situation–he does the exact thing that he admonishes us not to do. I was in a fraternity and am very proud of the friendships, social work and good times that were part of that experience. It was a positive in my life and I did not hurt anybody along the way.
Does it exasperate me that the term 'frat boy' is constantly use in a pejorative context? Yes.
Does that use in any way lessen my personal experience or take anything material from me? No.
Would I campaign to get people to stop using the term as a negative? Heck no.
Political correctness is only a symptom of our disease; the root is our inability to assume good intent and good will in others.
That line from the movie was not written from a place of hate–this isn't a Mel Gibson movie.
last i checked the defintion of 'gay' meant to be blissful or happy ..... flippin' froots...
I can't believe that this is an issue. I guess that some of the older generations would see this as hurtful but in today's society if you were to poll 18-25 year olds you would see that the word gay when referred to such as that car is gay. It just means that the car was lame or dumb. the younger generation does not see this word as hateful. Isn't this what we want to have as a nation? We younger people don't understand why this is such a big deal because we were raised during time in which there were no racial or ethnic wars going on so we were raised to believe that everyone is equal. By setting boundaries of what is okay to joke about and what isn't you are only going to keep this nation divided. If gays and lesbians want equal rights like everyone else than they need to be able to take a joke or being joked at. Plus what ever happened to free speech did someone forget about the first amendment. I know that the colonists and founding father's worked and fought way to hard for freedom of speech in America but we today cant even use our right to free speech whats next?
Anderson Cooper is gay. that's why he was unhappy about it. he's just not come out about it yet. CNN wont let him or he will be let go.
Name two perjorative terms that have been used against you. Then we can talk about whether or not people have thin skins.
I love humor and I'm by no means for altering our language so abruptly in the name of political correctness, But I think its easy, leave it out of teh trailor and leave it in the movie. You pay for th emovie so you realize ur watching a fiction in its entirety, you can comprehend the context. p.s. thicker skin than you.... gay is a "WORD" the "N" Word is also... I'm just sayin....
To JC:
Just because you're gay doesn't mean you speak for the rest of us. I, too, am gay, and I understand the seriousness of words and their meanings.
If I said my teacher was "so black" because they gave me a bad grade on a test, or if I saw someone fall and I said to them "Stop being black," I would be considered race. Why? After all, I just took the meaning of one word and made it seem like something else, right?!
Gee, you clearly have NOTHING to worry about. I, on the other hand, am just reading about YET ANOTHER
GROUP OF YOUNG STRAIGHT MEN WHO FOR NO REASON A PERSON 'SUSPECTED of being GAY, this
time a 14 year old kid innocently riding a school bus to school! This a week after 11 MEN in the BRONX went
on a gay bashing rampaging severely injuring 4 different people 'suspected' of being gay. This on top of a Michigan
law maker who has single handedly worked every single day to bully the President of the U of Michigan Student
Body; this after an old white redneck lawmaker in North Carolina and about twenety other 'law makers' across the
country have gone on the anti-gay bully pulpit. SO YES – YOU CAN'T USE THE WORD, particularly as YOU DO
anonymously online. You want to say it – STEP UP, GET SOME BALLS AND COME ON OVER. Our skin is
10 TIMES THICKER THAN YOURS BECAUSE WE'RE USED TO BEING HARASSED, BEATEN, BULLIED, ABUSED – What you idiots don't seem to understand is we have NO FEAR OF YOU. We're happy to show you what it feels like. Enough is enough-You coward.
I think the manufacturer of the electric car in question is offended too! LOL!
JC - Are you sure about that? If I call you gay, it's because you are. When Vince Vaughn, comedian extrordinaire, says "electric cars are gay," I can assure you he's taking two ideas - (1) GAY = BAD! and (2) hatred of electric cars - and combining them. Why? Because he wants to show hate for one can be correlated with hate for the other. THAT'S HILARIOUS! VINCE IS SO FUNNY! Move over Rodney Dangerfield, you've been dethroned by a new king of comedy.
It's not about thin-skin or political correctness. We (the gay community) here these words used all the time in the most harassing and mean-spirited ways. I would be willing to equate the word gay, spoken by those intending to be hurtful, as similar to using the 'N' word. It depends on the context. A joke like "that is so gay" might be OK in some contexts... but in a movie that will be watched by large portions of gay people, included closeted ones, and eventually gay teenagers, the phrase is wrong.
So I'd say yes, some of our community are thin-skinned, especially the ones most likely to commit suicide based on bullying and harassment (which almost always includes the word 'gay' amongst others. It's easy enough to not use that word to describe something as stupid.
I have an electric car for sale, cheap! It's gay...............so am I.
Was that wrong?
Would someone please tell these hypersensitive political corectness jerks to just shut the phuck up. For goodness sakes – gay and que*r and f*g were common English words long before they were born. If you don't like the English language then deport thyself to some other country. Didn't seem to bother anyone for hundreds of years until the perverts decided that they had to come out the closet and share their awful secret with the rest of the world. No one wanted to know so why do they feel they have to tell everyone?
THANK YOU!!!!
Agreed, no one probably noticed until now!
Bullying? Seems to me like GLAAD is using a awful incident of suicide centered around someone being gay and being bullied to push their agenda. It wasn't this one incident and it wasn't the word GAY. The fact that anyone is listening to this group, which is acting like a bully, is pretty darn gay!
@Roolark
Actually it is about thin skin. I can't control what someone else chooses to say to me, but I can control how I react to it. The world is full of people who are ignorant, mean-spirited and just plain evil. As much as you may want to believe that we can all live in peace and harmony, and dance around singing kumbaya, it’s never going to happen. If someone commits suicide because he was being bullied then he definitely needed thicker skin. There's a quote I think we can all use: "Life is 10% what happens to you and 90% of how you react to it." Don't let the 10% you can't control override the 90% you can.
Generally you're probably right. But given the epidemic of gay youth suicides, I do not think it is too much to ask for some sensitivity at this time. People didn't joke about or even show pictures of the Twin Towers after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. Movies that showed the Twin Towers were either delayed or had those scene removed from the films. Jokes that rely on the phrase "that's so gay" are totally not appropriate right now. It's disrespectful to those families that have lost their children.
It's a word! Get over it..just another right being taken away. Vince is great.
As an American who happens to be gay, using the word 'gay' to describe something as being less than or not equal to is harmful and frankly it's rude.
This has nothing to do with having thick skin, this everything to do with mutual respect. Name calling is not ok. Name calling and mocking people for their differences is indeed a form of bullying. Gay kids, especially, are vulnerable to this type of behavior because all of their young lives, and during my lifetime too (I am 35) have constantly been reminded how much less of a person we are compared to others.
Being respectful of others and their differences is what allows a society to grow and come together and become a real community. Words are powerful, they are the most powerful force we have, and when used to abuse, bully, mock words can push people to do things they probably normally would not. On the other hand, when words are used to love, be kind, and encourageing people will do incredible things and change the world for the better.
Our choice of words can devestate or empower – it's your choice of how you wish to impact a life. We all have a legacy to leave, do you want yours to be that of intolerance and hate or would you rather be remembered as being kind, loving and encouraging.
Your choice – mine is to be the latter.
Too extreme? No problem. Just use the "N" word instead and see how it sounds....
Get real. Anytime you use a word to denigrate a class of people, you are a bigot.
Gay means annoying....
Over sensitive crybabies!
That's retarded.
f*** vince vaughn
Word tend not to hurt when they're not being used toward you. If you have consistantly and systematically be on the receiving end of such words, it often is an entirely different story.
It's easy to call someone to have thicker skin when either you have not personally had to deal with a similar issue or you have but have not reach the maximum level of tolerance.
I am a depressed person, and therefore i am offended by the word Glaad, please change the name of our organization. (see this is a joke to show you that we must teach our children and the world that words are just that, words) Whatever happen to sticks and stones ma break my bones (which we need to to address in our schools) BUT, words will never hurt me!
Do gay people want equal rights or special rights along with equal rights? Gay comedians make fun of themselves and other gays as with various one liners in numerous movies that make references to something that only a gay person would understand. It all sounds like another existing social agenda that the Media is trying to take to the next level.
SIGH..OMG I am soooo tired of all the weak, thin skinned, bunch of crying babies...! Get a backbone, grow a pair and move on!
@kilgore trout...GET REAL DUDE or go on with the rest of your life fooling noone but yourself!
So, if they said the car was "n****rly", you'd be OK with that?
What is Vince Vaugn talking about? Is he another ADAM SANDLER? Cant write a joke and has to rely on the gay drop... Come on guys, drop it, Write new jokes and pick on something else. Every single artist, show, movie that makes fun at gays has their hands filled with blood... South Park, Adam Sandler movies, Mel Gibson, Fox News, and religious sects and fundamentalist... you are all responsible ,
Your ten year old is a retard who's parent couldn't figure out which receptacle was the most appropriate to dump their seed.
What the heck, This Comment Makes me sick""When 'gay' is used as a pejorative, it frequently sends a message – particularly to youth and their bullies – that being gay is wrong and something to laugh at. " Being gay Is Wrong! Get some thicker skin and quite being Gay Babies out there. Gay is Just Wrong and it is sick. SICK SICK SICK. It is a sick choice they make. It is not a disease but a choice do do something wrong and if they commit suicide that is a choice they made because what they are doing is wrong!
I want to know what happens this Christmas...when we're singing carols, are the lyrics to Deck The Halls still "Don we now are gay apparel" or is someone going to be offended by that too?
This discussion is gay.... the term gay is now used to make fun of a certain stereotype – "the flamer". Anyone who doesnt think a grown man in a pink boa is ridiculous and hilarious needs their head examined. The joke about being "gay" half the time is about being overly sensitive an then you put this out.... somebody call the wambulance
Hey, 1983 called, they want their joke back.
You are an ignorant and immature turd.
Spoken like a true Texan!
define normal jack@ss. you go crawl in a hole and die if you don't like it.
'Normal' is anyone just like ME!!!!!!!