O'Reilly visits 'The View' and two hosts walk off“The View” has turned into quite the drama fest over the years, and Thursday’s show was no different. The fuss this time surrounded Fox News personality Bill O'Reilly, who appeared on “The View” to talk about politics and his new book "Pinheads and Patriots.” Before the guest segment was over, O'Reilly himself was called a pinhead by one of the hosts.
His appearance started out reasonably enough, discussing the upcoming elections. O'Reilly didn't make predictions, but called the vote a referendum on President Obama. A bit later he brought up the proposed Islamic center in New York, which is set to be built close to ground zero. O’Reilly referred to it as a mosque and said it's inappropriate to build it there. He then added that the President's stance on the developer's right to build it and his decision not to comment on the wisdom of building it is part of the reason for what he calls a gulf between Obama and the American people. Whoopi Goldberg asked why it would be inappropriate to build the center near ground zero, to which O'Reilly responded, "Muslims killed us on 9/11." Whoopi then lost it, and I don't know exactly what she said, because the sound dropped out a couple of times. I think it’s a safe bet that ABC's producers or censors thought what she said wasn't appropriate for a morning talk show. Joy Behar called O’Reilly’s assertion BS and said she didn't want to sit there anymore, and then she and Whoopi walked off the set. First he said he wasn't demeaning anyone, but then apologized "if anybody felt I was demeaning Muslims,” and Joy and Whoopi came back after that. At the commercial break, Barbara said they'd come back and discuss his book "Pinheads and Patriots" adding that it was tough to see which term was applicable to O’Reilly. Later, Sherri Shepherd said O"Reilly was being a pinhead” because she believes he knew what he was saying when he commented that "Muslims killed us," without noting the attackers were extremists. What do you think? Did the ladies overreact, or was Bill O'Reilly wrong in not talking about Muslim extremists?
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I must have had my sound turned down when I visited because I didn't hear any music.
LivingOnForeignSoil:
The 9/11 terrorists' actions were totally AGAINST the name of Allah. Allah teaches Muslims NOT to kill innocent people, so your comment is not only senseless, but pointless as well.
Islam did not "inspire or coerce" those so-called Muslim terrorists to commit their actions. In fact, had they BEEN "inspired by Islam", 9/11/01 would have been an ordinary, run-of-the-mill day as they would have been fasting, praying, giving to charity, making ummah.... You know.....things that 99.9999% of the Muslim community does that the press does not find noteworthy.
Yes, they were Muslim. Terrorists. Who also KILLED a boatload of Muslims innocently going about their daily work at the WTC. Really people. Bill O'Reilly says crap like that to inflame people and he fans the fires of your ignorance and fear. They were terrorists killing Americans to make a statement. If the entire Muslim world wanted to kill us, we'd be dead already considering the so greatly outnumber us. Most of them are peaceful folk. Just like Christianity, extremists in any form are to be feared and monitored.
You two dizzy dames, Joy and that lumbering fashion disaster and not too bright Whoopi lose.
As a dyed in the wool liberal you made me ashamed because you seemed afraid of debating him, yOU DIDN'T MAKE A STATEMENT, YOU JUST LOOKED STUPID BY WALKING OUT.
@wendy: Regardless of your position on the issue, please don't shout. We can read your comment just fine even if you don't type in ALL CAPITAL LETTERS. Thanks.
So much passion! One group of Christians on one side, a bunch of Atheist on the other. Who'se the most threatened by the Muslim religion? The group that stands to lose the most; Christians. More and more sensible Americans, black and white, are no longer associated with Christians. Christians are just as extreme, they walk in denial of sick priest who prey on kids, they hoard ill begotten treasure, they house illegal aliens, they drink the blood of Christ for Christ sake. Drink the blood and be purified! they say. OMG!!!! Have some disgusting meat while your there.
Okay, here's how I see it. Islam is not responsible, it was a group of extremists who attacked the world trade center. But at the same time, the attackers were Muslim, and their religion was hyped up by the media. As such, I do not believe putting a mosque that close to Ground Zero is a good idea. See, no matter what you think about the attack, the fallout or whatever, you have to realize that a great many people are held in the belief that it was a Muslim attack on America. By building a mosque that close to a site of great tragedy, you trample on the memories of everyone who died, in the eyes of many of the people out there. So, even if the mosque is built, there are going to be picket lines, and angry mobs out there every day. The Muslim community will be berated again and again by people who hate that people are trampling over the memories of their lost loved ones. I really think is't a stupid idea to build one there, it's going to cause nothing but problems for the NYPD, and they have more than enough problems on their hands. I know I ramble a bit, and I apologize, my brain just never wants to work on one track.
At the end of the day, the true pinheads were Joy & Whoopi for their stupidity and lack of maturity. You can't disagree without walking away? Great example ladies.
Calling the people who flew the planes into the buildings on 9/11 representative of Islam is like saying the KKK is representative of Christianity.
The people wishing to build the community center in NYC have already bought the land and it is only two blocks away from a mosque (which has been there peaceably for decades), probably to help serve that community. I can understand resisting a "land swap" if it puts them farther away from the people they are trying to serve.
I'm not sure it was appropriate for the hosts of The View to walk off stage during their show, but certainly understand it if that is what they needed to get their tempers in control after the goading from their guest. He was looking for a reaction, not trying to get along. This gave him a lot of free publicity. I personally think he's more pinhead than patriot, but that's just my opinion. I'm thankful I live in a country where I'm free to express it.
Allow them to build in a show of tolerance and then put a pork butcher, a strip club and a liquor store in next door.
So here's the real question:
If someone crashed a plane into the Mall of America in the name of Christianity, would you then oppose building a new Christian church anywhere near it?
I don't think many of you would. Some, yes. But not the majority of you.
Leviticus is quoted to put down gays. he also wrote about a sin if men didn't wear beards or cut their hair the wrong way. the book written by men is interpreted for pretty much anything to push a christian agenda. just like the inquisition, and justifying slavery, torture, wars against Muslims in the crusades and the oil wars of dubya and cheney, with no WMD's found to dubya's disappointment, but thousands of innocents killed in the name of you know who.
ten is right
also, why is it that all these anti-mosque "they did it in the name of their religion!" bigots always seem to forget that Christians, Jews and Muslims share the same god?
Who really cares what these 2 airheads do on a dumb show. I don't, I'm on vacation. When I get home I still wont care. 9/11 happened due to crazy fools that have no other way to express themselves but to cause terror, that's why they are terrorists and politicians are politicians no matter where they live or what country they control. It all comes down to, if you have the power, you have the money, if you have the money then you have power. It's as simple as that. Best of luck to all of us.
There's no crying in baseball!!!!! There's no crying on TV shows either. Someone forgot to tell those airheads. Never did care for either one.
A Rose Is A Rose, Despite It's Colour Or Arrangement; The Rose Remains To Be A Rose. It Is Much The Same With Reputations And Affiliations Which Tend To Proceed Us. The Difference?... Reputations And Affiliations Can Be Changed But "If And Only If" They Choose To Change It. The Premise That "Johnny Is A Boy Scout And Johnny Is Bad Boy Therefore All Boy Scouts are Bad Boys Defies Most Folks Logic. So What's The Difference As In Joy/Whoopi & Bill O'Reilly's Flap On The View?... Knowledge, Or The Lack Of It And Perception. Everyone Has Their Own Sensibilities And Points Of View And Are Welcomed To Express It By Law. Do I Necessarily Agree With It?.. I Raise My Eyebrows In Pause.... But Listen... " It is Better To Be Thought A Fool Then To Open Ones Mouth And Remove All Doubt..."
You see? 10 years later we already forgot...
but here's one thing I don't get. Until today the majority of "whites" are still blamed for the years of slavery that African-American were exposed by a minority of rich heartless people 200 years ago. But today, they just want to isolate what happened in 9/11 to a few radi cals Ms, having said that, why don't apply the same rules to what happened 200 years ago?
Sad thing is that as I said at the beginning.... we just forgot 9/11 while they still celebrate...
this is one of the many reasons i don't watch the view. the women on the show do not present the facts for others to judge for themselves. it is simply a forum for their views only. personally, i don't care what they think, therefore, i won't watch their show. they should provide impartial information and let their viewers decide what to believe.
Matt in San Diego, who cares what you think. You're an idiot.
Listen, to all of you who don't understand that it's America's choice to do whatever we want, ITS OUR CHOICE. If we want to start a few wars who's to blame us. Your countries have went around killing and conquering since the ancient times. from the Egyptians, to the Songhai, Aztecs to Spanish. The country in the world with the dominant military gets to choose the fate of its inferiors. I think they should put a Christian or a Catholic church as they are our countries major religions. I'm sure if the caliphs of the Arab golden age still had control over the world by force of military they wouldn't be crying over their guilt of being the supreme ruling country of the nation.
All we need is LOVE! And these "view" chicks to find another job.
Whoppy go back to stand-up comedy maybe they'll throw you off the stage. Joy you are pitiful at best. Why not try selling peanuts at your home town ball games. Both of you wake up and face the real WORLD for once.
I think we are getting a little off topic, here. We all know Americans deserved much worse for their ignorance and crimes against humanity. Oh, and Bill O' Reilly is cool, i mean no one can get a group of lazy self-righteous imbeciles upset like him.
Walking off the set was unprofessional an unproductive no matter who you agree with. However, all O'reilly did was point out a fact. What's wrong with that?
These two loudmouth broads think everyone should listen to their opinions when many of us consider them to be somewhat extreme. They drown out rudely or walk off the stage when they don't like someone else's opinion. that's why I never watch their show– they are hypocrites! It's easy to dislike O'Reilly but please remember that everyone gets their turn to speak and that's how we do it in America. After all, he was invited to be on the show.
My maiden name is an Irish name, very much so, from the Irish language in fact, and I am of Irish ancestry. I bring this up because I feel that I have a perspective on O'Reilly that comes from my background, perhaps.
I grew up in a neighborhood surrounded by Irish Americans.
O'Reilly loves to get a rise out of people, just like Hannity. They are blow-hards. And don't think that they know it! They know it perfectly well, and they know that they are outrageous, cruel and mean spirited. They KNOW it but the secret is that they will never let on. They know that they are mean and nasty. Believe me, they are just angry, angry guys who have this chance to get on national TV and say, "Screw You".
It all has to do with a misguided notion of Irish pride, of thinking that they know best and that they can DO better than the rest. It also has nothing to do with politics, in a sense, because it is related to their culture which calls for, even today, for repression and rebellion. They love being rebels. They NEED to be rebels.
Nothing made O'Reilly feel better than to see Joy and Whoopie walk out. He needed to see that. It made him feel POWERFUL, don't you see? Irish guys have felt repressed by their culture and they love to get mad and make others feel upset. It makes them feel that they can at least do THAT.
I admit that I feel that my culture IS the best for many reasons, but I also have the brains to realize that this is only how I FEEL and not, of course, true. It makes no sense, in other words.
Ever notice how morally superior O'Reilly likes to act? Well, just put a Roman collar on him and bring him to the Catholic altar and let him speak. He will bully the parishioners around and scare the daylights out of everyone. He's just one arrogant Irish bully and he deserves contempt.
I say this with a deep love of my cultural heritage but also an understanding, from the inside, of what he is doing.
@Irina, the fact is as many atrocities have been committed historically and recently in the Christian god's name as the Muslims. In fact, it wasn't that long ago that CHristians were burning their fellow Christians for either believing in the Trinity as one or the Trinity as three separate and distinct elements, the belief or non-belief in transubstantiation or that Jesus was at once both man and god, and that's just to list a few. THere are the Salem Witch trials, oh and there's the support of Slavery that Christians assured their slaves was a Biblically suppported...so wait...why don't you get over it and stop passing judgment against Muslims when your house Lady is so clearly made of glass. OH and you should definitely cover yourself cause showing your ass here is not pretty.
C'mon Whoopi. You dress like a man so act like one.
i didn't think of this , but really thought it was a valid point. in discussing 9/11 everyone seems to use the term Muslims, as if all Muslims are bad or evil, instead of using Muslim extremists. a point was made when an abortion clinic is bombed no body refers to the person as a Christian extremist, they are considered right to life people. really????? to me there is no difference between a person who would fly a plan into a building or a person bombing one because they disagree with a womans choice. harming, killing or maiming a person who does not agree with anothers beliefs is infantile. if a person has to use violence shows a lack of imaginenation in expressing their views.
Typical liberals, can't stand to have someone disagree so they run away or call them names or attack their motives...typical.
During WW 2 was it "GERMAN EXTREMIST" who killed 100's of thousnands of jews???
No. It was GERMANS!!!
I don't agree with O'reiley on much but he has a right to his opinion and he hit right on the head.
"They WERE Muslims"... until they flew those planes into our buildings. Now they are a bunch of dead muslims looking for their 70 virgins. and as a good red blooded american – I hope those virgins are all HAIRY, UGLY OLD MEN !!!
Never forget 9 / 11
God Bless AMERICA!!!
Boy there is nothing like the truth to stop BS in its tracks. How about debating the freedom of worship and religion versus the right for non believers to live free from threat? Last time I looked Buddhism, Hinduism, Judaism, Taoism and Christianity recruit by persuasion not force or death threats. I would vote yes in an instant for a cultural center for any of those mentioned.
Well Hallelujah...now can we get them to leave the view permanently? And take Barbara Waa-Waa with them when they go. They give women worldiwde a BAD name, useless women who think they are something, when all they are is mouthpieces.
joy and whoopi are lovers
They had to retreat because they were unarmed in a battle of wits.
I think it's funny that Behar is upset with O'Reilly. Yes, he made a blanket statement about Muslims; however, she does the exact same thing when talking about Christians. Those who live in glass houses...
If with all of the attacks against the USA and our interrests abroad you changed the label from Muslim extremists to Southern Baptist extremists there would long ago been a movement to do away with the Southern Baptist Convention as an organization supporting terrorism. After Oklahoma City alone there was a push from liberals to start investigating all "right wing groups."
If Muslims do not want the terrorist attacks attached to all Muslims then they must aggressively and vocally denounce the attacks.
As a Southern Baptist pastor I have taken a personal and public position that it is wrong for right to life advocates to kill abortionists-even though I disagree with abortion and long to see Roe vs Wade overturned.
But the Muslim world as a whole is pretty silent about refuting terrorist attacks.
I used to have a different thought about Muslims (just like you and me) until I studied the Koran and Islamic religion. After reading several of your comments and viewing the unprofessional actions of the ladies on the View I would just say "Wake up America and eductate yourself on 1. your own religion and 2. the muslim religion." When you do that, then make an educated response or host an informative TV show. I challenge you all to learn the current environment we live in and conduct a comparitive analysis of Nazi Germany to Muslim Ideologies. You might be very suprised. As for the ladies on the View, your concept of reality on Terrorism and the Muslim Faith is not only clouded by your ignorance but your continued use of the Media platform to spread false statements is irresponsible. I remember when Rosie O'Donnell said "American is paranoid about Terrorism...there are no terrorist tyring to get us." Just look back 15 years in our World history of all the Terrorist attacks that have occurred to gain an appreciation that we are in a fight for our own social existance.
Bill expresses his opinion on a show that is supposed to be about differing opinions, and 2 of the hosts walk off because they disagreed with him. Who was being intolerant?
Anymore it seems like the most intolerant people are liberals. Conservatives will state a position then are willing to discuss and debate. Liberals state a position then say, "there is no discussion about it. That's the way it is." For example Barack Obama and every issue he's discussed since inauguration day. For example, Al Gore on global warming. For example, the way liberals constantly attacked President Bush when he was in office (and still to this day). They abused him constantly, for his policies, for his language, for everything. And all because that is what freedom and democracy is all about. But now, with President Obama in office it is unpatriotic and racist to disagree with anything he does. Barack played more golf in his first 6 months in office than President Bush played in 8 years in office. But it was ok for liberals to hatefully abuse President Bush for too much golf, but nobody better say anything about Barack playing golf.
Liberals are more closed to differing opinions than they even imagine conservatives to be.
vertebrates attacked you in 911, Humans attacked you in 911; men attacked you in 911. But: A specific large armed political organization with thousands of members attacked you; it's not abstract; it has a leadership and a name: Al Qada. So please stop miring the rest of us in the dirt by calling them Muslims. Humans would be a set of 6 billion, Muslim 1.5 billion, Al Qada narrows it down. If you keep saying Muslim, then we have a right to think you are trying to drag the rest of us Muslims in because you have an agenda (your domestic politics perhaps? your own religious extremism? to cover up and justify killing us when needed for oil?)
Until now, I've never liked O'Reilly much! Still don't-much, but I'm totally with him on this. I'm tired of Muslims running over my values. Let the liberal sectareians like Behar and Who-what roll over and play dead if they want to. It's about time that Christians put up or shut up and start confronting Islam for what it is-the Anti-Christ!
If the mosque is built on ground zero, may "christian extremists" will drop a bomb on it, in it, under it or whatever. I hope someone can stop it. Maybe GOD??
O'Riley is a cantankerous, intellectually myopic, self-serving, self-righteous ideologue, and no reasonable individual worthy of respect should ever take him seriously. It is a sad statement about this country that pinheads like O'Riley are given so much attention.
O'Riley is a cantankerous, intellectually myopic, self-serving, self-righteous ideologue, and no reasonable individual worthy of respect should ever take him seriously.
So 10 yrs later the fruit has come to bare, not only has the government or the people not insist on a criminal charge for the administration of Bush and Cheney, Rumsfield and Rice. We the people have lost most of our rights in the name of fear, the administration of the bush era have all gotten rich and have made this great nation separated, and brought hate to a race of citizens. And Bill O reilley is just one of the many commentators sent out to keep the hate alive. our government is capable and secretive enough to do what ever it wants and threw the media can say and do what they want and make it seem ok. Time to stop the hate and anger
The left wing lunatics are creating right wing extremist with their nihilistic elitism. They feed the hatred they so veitmently condemn with their own hypocrisy of self righteousness. The very act of bigotry they accuse O'Reilly of is committed daily by both politicians and media personalities in regards to Judeo-Christian's and non-democrats. Hypocrisy spans both sides of the political divide.
So you're saying that everyone who disagrees with O'Riley is a "left-wing lunatic?" OK, that's fine...as long as you concede that everyone who agrees with O'Riley must be a "right-wing lunatic." They're either that, or they're just plain fools.
Anyone who truly believes Bill O'Riley represents the views of the majority of the American people is either incredibly ignorant, or grossly delusional.
O'Riley and the rest of FOX News is simply a circus act, and a lousy one at that. O'Riley is a cantankerous, intellectually myopic, self-serving, self-righteous ideologue who no one worthy of the nation's respect should ever take seriously.
Lest we forget...Timothy McVeigh was a home-grown, red-blooded American citizen (born and raised in NY); Bronze Star recipient / Gulf War veteran / honorably discharged US soldier; God and gun-loving Christian...when he decided to blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. He mercilessly killed 168 "of us" (to use Mr. O'Reilly's own words), including 19 children. How would Mr. O'Reilly apply his own "logic" on this one?? Would he brand all New Yorkers, or retired Army Veterans, or NRA-members, or Christians as responsible for the deaths caused by TMcV's extremist delusions??
Mr. O'Reilly is nothing more than a fear-mongering, book-peddling profiteer who stokes the fires of divisiveness and hatred for his own benefit and enjoyment. If he were uneducated and/or ignorant of history, his words might be dismissed; but he chose them carefully and with purpose, making this sad exhibition of bigotry inexcusable and unforgiveable.
People claim 'logic' all the time, but usually don't really understand how to use it. The men who engaged in the 9/11 terrorist acts were Muslim. Therefore, Muslims killed ~3000 Americans. However, that statement does not mean, or imply, that all Muslims killed these Americans. It gets worse – O'Reilly said "Muslims killed us". Who is 'us'? They didn't kill me, or my family. Therefore, the statement is illogical (fallacious). What he *meant* was 'Some Muslims killed some of us'. But, again – it gets worse. Some of those killed were Muslim. So, what he should have said was 'Some Muslims killed some of us, including some Muslims'. But that would not have been as provocative, *and* it would be a very weak reason to not build a mosque nearby. So, he made a statement that the vast majority of willfully ignorant viewers would accept as 'rational'. Behar and Goldberg reacted in an equally irrational manner – and a ridiculous controversy erupted that is completely beside the point. In the end, the media wins and America loses. How sad.
It was Muslim fundamentalists, not Muslims, who attacked our country on 9/11. Unfortunately, this country is full of ignorant fools like Bill o"Reilly and his sycophants who are all too ready to blame the entire Islamic faith for the actions for a few misguided fanatics. I don't care if his opinion Fox News watching dolts who follow him haven't learned a damned thing.
The left always cries "Tolerance! Tolerance!", then shows none of it themselves. They throw a tantrum if someone has a conflicting opinion.
Yes Christians do have extremists. The difference is other christians police and redicule their extremists. they guy that wanted to burn the koran was rediculed as an idiot very publically and world wide by other christians. David Koresh was killed. McVeigh was caught and dealt with and locked up by other christians. When the muslim community starts policing their own, executing their own for heinous crimes, imprisoning their own, and going on media outlets and publically rediculing their extremists like christians do, then maybe healing will start. I have yet to see muslim leaders world wide publically condemning each and every act that takes place in the name of their religion. When a christian extremist does something other christians are quick to publically rebuke them to the rest of the world.
People claim 'logic' all the time, but usually don't really understand how to use it. The men who engaged in the 9/11 terrorist acts were Muslim. Therefore, Muslims killed ~3000 Americans. However, that statement does not mean, or imply, that all Muslims killed these Americans. It gets worse – O'Reilly said "Muslims killed us". Who is 'us'? They didn't kill me, or my family. Therefore, the statement is illogical (fallacious). What he *meant* was 'Some Muslims killed some of us'. But, again – it gets worse. Some of those killed were Muslim. So, what he should have said was 'Some Muslims killed some of us, including some Muslims'. But that would not have been as provocative, *and* it would be a very weak reason to not build a mosque nearby. So, he made a statement that the vast majority of willfully ignorant viewers would accept as 'rational'. Behar and Goldberg reacted in an equally irrational manner – and a ridiculous controversy erupted that is completely beside the point. In the end, the media wins and America loses. How sad.
Why is it so arduous to comprehend that it is insensitive for the mosque to be located on Ground Zero?
Rewind back a number of years and you'll find the Jewish people in the same situation with the Christians condemning them publically and using them as their scapegoats. Eventually the muslim people will continue what they are doing through CAIR and other political means, i.e. fighting for their rights and ensuring that they have equal representation in America.
The extreme right is playing on the fears of the American people, and doing so in a very effective manner through FOX and other avenues like partnering with the Jewish-American lobby (think AIPAC). Open your eyes and see what is really going on in the world before making sweeping generalizations about a religion and other nations. Travel and educate yourselves more, the average American does not venture out of their country for their entire lifetimes and then the consequence of that is that they rely on the idiot box to shape their perceptions. I found that travelling and reading media from around the world has given me more perspective on other religions and peoples which makes me a more well-rounded world view.
Of course they over reacted – that is just awful behavior. O'Reilly is often rude and completely in the left field with his opinions but failing to be the better host and address his lack of tact or class and storming off like a couple of Divas was uncalled for. The point can be made that just because Christians bomb planned parenthoods and kill doctors doesn't make the whole religion terrorist. Perhaps its inappropriate for churches to be build within blocks of a medical facility? Joy, Woopie, keep your knickers on and act like a couple of professionals in the face of Pin'Headedness.
THANK YOU to the person who brought up Timothy Mc Veigh.
Many of you are waiting for Muslims to verbsalize an out cry to the Muslim extremists. There never was once an out cry from the militia groups who Mc Veigh had ties to denouncing the murder of American citizens.
The militia groups are still in this country...........HHMMMMHHHMMM. We are not actively denouncing them.
HHHMMMhhhhMM . Americans not willing to stand up to American terroists. HHHHMMMMMMM
Well, using Billo the Clowns logic, white Americans were responsible for the Oklahoma CIty bombing.
Just like you can't blame all mormans for polygamy you can't blame all muslims for the terror attacks... there are muslims who were just as horrified about the attacks as the rest of us. if you listen to o'reilly on the show he sounds pompous and does sound very racists against muslims. do i think it is stupid they walked off yes. you can't walk off a show called the view if someone has a view different then yours. let him blame who ever he wants. personally i think the man is a racist idiot who knows nothing about anything especially being a christian. if muslims want to build a center close to the trade center site well that is their right... i think the stupidity comes from expecting the president who is supposed to protect our rights to stop the building when they have every right to build the center anywhere they want to. I do think it is insensitive to do so but there isn't a single thing we can do about it.
It's 'cite', not 'site'. Go back to school!
@ everyone who things all terrorists are Muslim.
Not all terrorists are Muslim. Irish National Liberation Army, Irish People's Liberation Organization, The Revolutionary Armed Forces of Columbia, Kahane Chai (Kach); of Israel, West Bank (jewish group) are all listed as US Nationally recognized Terrorist Organizations. The Oklahoma City Bomber, The Christian Crusaders from the 11th 12th and 13th centuries, were all acts of terrorism preformed by non-Muslims.
I think it's wrong to suggest it would be inappropriate to build a Muslim Center in Lower Manhattan. What better way to tell the EXTREMISTS that you cannot change the American way, than to do what American's have always done; rejoice in the diversity of our great country.
"...But all terrorists are Muslim" Of course, absolutely wrong.
Goldberg & Behar can dish it out, but they can't take it. What a couple of hypocrites.
Listen, Mr. O'Reilly, and YOU might learn something: Catholics molested little boys.
You guys are making it seems like all the Muslims are terrorists. Shame on you. The moment you start doing that I think you loose the right to represent this great country USA and you are no better than the terrorists. Just because KKK is a Christian group you don't label yourself as KKK. You people don't even label KKK as a terrorist group after all they have done. I am been watching what is happening over the years. When a Muslim commits a crime, no matter how small it is he is a terrorist. When an individual of other faith commits a crime he is just a criminal. And as far as the Mosque/Islamic center goes, I want you to test bravery/humanity by telling it to the American Muslims families who lost their loved ones during 9/11 attack that their loss is a lesser one than that of the people of other faith that died needlessly on that day. Tell them just because you are Muslim and although you lost your sons and daughters you can’t build anything here because they don’t count. While you are at it may be you can call them terrorists as well. Bunch of Hippocrates.
9/11 cost more to the Muslims in this country than the non Muslims. It cost our freedom. Try to put yourself in our shoes. Terrorists don’t represent us. They are just crazy like any fundamentalist.
Lets be honest for once. Bill O Rielly leans to the right Politically and Joan Behar and Whoopi Lean far Left Politically. So I concluded that it didnt matter what conversation started it these two so called hosts were going to do what they did anyways. Because if nothing else I have gotten from the show the view is that those women are incapable of having an intelligent thought out conversation devoid of the emotions and based in hard facts. Bill O rielly was using the mosque as an example of why Obama has a division between him and the american people on many front this being one of them. Yes they have the right to build where they want but just because you can doesnt mean you should and this mosque whether you like it or not is an afront to most americans. But it not just that issue it issues like craming Obamacare down peoples throats without even reading the bill. Rushing to push through the stimulus without even reading the bill and having him tout it as a big success when its clear to the american public that its not been a great success at all. This is what BillO rielly was trying to get too is that Obama and Democrats have an election problem is because they refuse to listen to the will of the people being governed. But who would know that when these so called host cant control themselves long enough to get to the cusp of the conversation. And having this show off the air would be no lost to anyone.
The Nazis were Christians. Should all churches cease to exist in Europe out of respect? All religions have extremists who take the message too far; a whole group of one religion should not be blamed for the actions of the extremists. To do so is counter to every religion's message.
Nazis were not Christian you idiot. The Nazi party was an occult Religion that had nothing to do with Christianity. They were not committing their atrocities in the name of any god. Do a little research on groups such as the Thule Society and you will realize how ignorant your comment is. Naziism was its own religion.
Extremists? C'mon folks, anyone who has been awake for the last 9 years knows that 9/11 was an inside job. It had nothing to do with muslims, it has everything to do with Cheney. Wake up! and seriously stop giving this @$$ clown publicity. He is a complete dip$#^t.
At Dave: What exactly did you mean when you made the statement below?
"Dave: Well its not like they were Seventh Day Adventists."
Who really cares how they reacted? it's an entertainment show, not a news program. After all, they have a woman on there, SherrI Shepherd, who isn't sure if the earth is flat or not.
Bill O'Reilly reminds me of some of the Irish Catholics in my own family. These people have their own way of processing reality. In their minds one +one = 3 or 5 or seven or whatever they want it to equal.
We (the USA) want to call these people Muslim extremist, but look at Pakistan, Look at Afghanistan, look at Iraq. When strict followers of the Koran follow out the dictates of the Koran the results are a political system that is infused with religion. Here in the USA the Liberals are fighting for Muslims "rights" because they are a minority while the demonize anything with the word Christian in it. But when the Muslim religion comes into full fruition here in the states you will see how tolerant this religion is for gays, women, children and the civilian. The religion allows you to lie to the unbeliever to advance Islam. The end goal is total submission to Allah, you do not submit you die. When someone suicide bombs a building, or a mosque, or a shopping center in the name of Allah they are in fact caring out the tenants of their faith to the fullest degree. If a "Christian" kills in the name of Christ then he/she is in DIRECT VIOLATION of his teachings and are not true followers of his word. A lot of people are bringing us Leviticus and Deuteronomy as examples of the bible allowing for brutality and murder. 1. This was the law for who? The Israelites. The Law still did not save. Man could not keep the law and was in need of a savior. 2. Christ came, a follower of Christ follows his examples and his teachings. When the men wanted to stone the adulteress, he asked where is the man? It takes two for this sin. He then said that "he who is without sin, cast the first stone." He then told her I do not condemn you, go and sin no more. Quite the contrast from the woman in Afghanistan that just recently was given a prosthetic nose because it was cut off from her face by the Taliban. Oh they did cut her ears off as well.
There's no excuse for it. When you walk off a set like that, it's immediately all about you. It's no longer about your audience gaining the benefit of the debate. It's now about your opinion of the guest. And when you leave the bounds of your professional obligation and get personal like that, well, that's...unprofessional. Period. That was Babs' point when she said it shouldn't have happened. And she was right.
They're all a bunch of idiots.
Lest we forget...Timothy McVeigh was a home-grown, red-white-and-blue American (born and raised in NY), Gulf War veteran, Bronze Star recipient and honorably discharged US Army soldier, and apparently not too God-fearing Christian when he blew up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. He killed 168 "of us" (to use Mr. O'Reilly's own words), including 19 toddlers...how do we apply O'Reilly's "logic" on that one?
Mr. O'Reilly is nothing more than a fear-mongering, book-peddling profiteer who stokes the fires of divisiveness and hatred for his own benefit and enjoyment.
She is pro muslim! Not a good American either.
When I hear the leaders from the Muslim faith denounce the actions of a Muslim extremist, I will let the Muslim faith off the hook and only condem the extremists. I have yet to hear one word from Muslim leaders condeming these extremist, so if they aren't against them...
when I hear the pope condemn and turn over all those priests that abused children, and the rest of the christians apologize for killing natives, stealing their lands, enslaving them, all in the so-called name of their god, along with the racism that they committed using their book to justify it, then I will look to the Muslims to apologize. Don't forget the inquisition and the crusades along with the oil companies pillaging oil from the Arab countries until they were tossed out and only let back in under the terms of the people who lived there. Oh, and get an apology from the Bushes who got a pass for China so they could outsource jobs and put the economy in the tank by ignoring the subprime mortgage warnings. No WMD's found for that born-again former drunk. It will be a cold day in h3ll before that happens.
Patriot, to answer your question on one reputable Muslim that has been outspoken against these extremist i will bring forward Nihad Awad, if you look up his history you will see that he actually stood by Bush side right after 9/11 condemning the terrorist attacks. Also, Great USA, on O'Reilly moving up the ladder, its not a ladder your moving up if your being propelled by ignorant sounds coming out of your mouth. And to say that its wrong to build a mosque or cultural center near ground zero is a ridiculous as to say you cant or shouldn't build a church next to clinic that performs abortions and has been fire bombed. Christian terrorism is religious terrorism by Christian sects or individuals but you dont see a movement to close down Christian Churches or stop them from being built. Why is that??? Its basically because Christians are the Majority while Muslims are the minority, we as a progressive country and mind should get over the minority issue in every aspect and get down to dealing with individualizes and their actions.
Muslims killed Americans.
Germans killed Jews.
Americans killed Indians.
All these statements are true,
When the truth causes trouble, liberals have something to do with it.
Whoppi Goldberg and Joy Behar were , in my opinion acting like a couple of infants with loaded diapers. It was obvious that the two of them, who are liberals, were lying in wait for Bill O'Reilly to say something that would set them off and of course he did. Let's face it, Bill O'Reilly isn't the most lovable person in the world and is known for his strong conservative stance on various issues. Personally however, I found his remarks to be factual. Muslims did attack us on 9/11 and the proposed Mosque near ground zero is inappropriate and should be relocated. And a majority of Americans agree with him.
Joy and Whoopi need to GROW UP!!! They can't handle the truth so like little babies they walk away.
The thing that baffles me about this, is that the mostly liberal panel of The View invited the overtly conservative Bill O'Reilly onto their show, and then were shocked and insulted by his opinions! He did not shock them with anything he has not said hundreds of times before, so why did they invite him on in the first place? You do not invite the fox into the hen house and then not expect it to eat a chicken. (Sorry for the pun....)
Just an observation on the totally opposing forces that guide each persons oppinion on this obviously volatile subject.
It is a masculine trate to show strangth, to aggresivly act, to breath fire and to protect. These trates have their place and are good but they are no place far from the trates of the feminine who nurtures, shows compation, shows a cooler head, is understanding and propagates harmony. This is not to say that those on the left act like "girls" and are nieve in there understanding of the world, if you were about to make this assumetion don't bother you'll prove my point to early. It is also not to say that those on the right are the real "men", for some of the comments I've read clearly depict a scared child lashing out at things in the dark. If our focus continues to be on issues that devide us we will never find a common groung with each other or our neighbors. Words are powerful maybe the most powerful thing we have and though we have the right to say what we want we also should recognize that with that right comes enormous responsability. when I was a child I called my brother names and he'd hit me. I stopped and he stopped to.
CAN IT BE?! A VOICE OF REASON!! AND HERE I THOUGHT IT WAS OUTLAWED AROUND HERE. I REALLY COULD NOT SAY THAT BETTER.
First of all, people who kill doctors who perform abortions say they are killing for the Christian God, yet we don't forbid Christian churches to be built near physicians' offices. Insensitive to be sure for the docs! The insensitive argument is not a part of legal arguments in our society and it just doesn't fly. It is a veil for racism and intolerance.
And the statement that "all terrorists are Muslims?" Get a clue. Terrorists exist in every religious group, in every country, for every cause. Extremists are extremists no matter which religious cloak they hide behind. Most Muslims are people of peace as are most people in general. Fear based stereotyping is what we should all find completely intolerable.
I was watching this when it happened. It was all theater. O'Reilly wanted to make the news in order to push his new book. The View wanted controversy in the news to combat the threat of the new CBS girl talk show. I have to keep reminding myself that all of the extreme views on different shows and hosts are in order to get ratings, are self-promoting, and all for bringing in the bucks. We are all duped into believing their hype and forming opinions based on their crap. Think for yourself people!
Yes! The Muslims did it! They're just upset because they can't enjoy life until after they're dead! - And Yes! –Christians are sheep! Abide by the Commandments when iit's convenient; disregard when it's not. Your religion's leadership will let you know when to and when not to.
Those terrorists didn't killed because the were men or because they wanted to show their masculity, that's dumb. They did it because their beliefs (whatever beliefs they were, that's not the point) became very extreme beliefs where life and death, or love and hate didn't matter to them at all, and that's obviously not normal in our actual society.
To Whoopie and Mrs.Behar:
Were not white people who invaded America, and enslaved America? And Mrs. Behar: have you never used derogatory language against not muslim religions?
Maybe we should abolish all the churches in Dublin...how many innocent lives have been destroyed there in the name of Christianity? It's not the religion people, it's the interpretation!
I actually watched the whole show on the view and I understand why Joy and Whoopi had to leave. You can't blame all Muslims for the terrible thing that happened on 9/11. Also, Christians are not the only ones who died that day, there were 70 Muslims families that were on ground zero and died due to the attack of the terrorist. Also, to make note, Allah is another name for God. As a Chirstian (yes I am a Christian), I see plenty of people here claiming they are Christians but then applaud violence. There are extreme Christians just as there are extreme Muslims. To other Christians out there, what type of example are we showing to others who do not know and are not exposed to Christianity? How do you expect other religion to appreciate and understand Christianity when what we are showing is hate and the opposite of what we preach? Jesus came and mingled with sinners (all of us are sinners) and set an example. We are no better than everyone else. If you want others to respect us, we should show respect to others as well. Before you act or say anything, think... is this what Jesus would do?
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You old bunch of kooks..We're any of you ever a victim ? the fact is we we're attacked by muslims on 9/11. i'm in Afghanistan doing my part and you're acting like a jack wagon doing yours. It's an OLD act...Phonies...
Two women who usually point out the destructiveness of intolerance (which I agree) find themselves to be extremely intolerant. I don’t care for O’Reilly’s approach or his message, but much of what he said is true. Put the shoe on the other foot. What if a country with an Islamic based government was attacked and 3,500 innocent people were killed. Also imagine, that during the attack the terrorist praised Jesus, claimed this act to be a religious duty and that the killing of the non-believers was inspired by God via the teachings of the Holy Bible? How many new Christian Churches would be built in that country the following year? If the Islamic majority condemns the actions of the extreme Islamic groups, then why isn’t this war between them? Why was the falling of the Twin Towers so highly celebrated by so many Muslims? Where do you think the extremist get their money? We must be tolerant, especially to one another, but we shouldn’t forget who we are and that any attack on the United States will be retaliated, regardless of the faith of the majority
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg need to grow up. Someone doesn't agree with their view of the world, so they basically stamp their feet and throw tantrums and run away. Come on.
Barbara Walters is a jew. Whoop aND oy are loudmouths. OReilly ws off the beam but is this THE Us or the freaking unITED Nations. guess which one
A bully is a bully and a bigot is a bigot. Bill O'Reilly is both. A debate about the sensitivities involved in the Mosque location would have been fine; but he came out acting like a pompus jerk and declared that he was going to "teach" something to the ladies of the view. Then he he referred to the TERRORISTS as Muslims instead of Terrorists. When you hear hateful words sometimes you just have to walk away and take away the power the bully seems to think he has. It happened to me...I'm not gay, but I heard a supervisor and a Vice President in my former company laughing and joking and name calling in reference to a woman in the company who was gay. I was shocked and disgusted and I left. One of them was my boss, and the other was a supervisor who reported to me!! The bullying carried over to many aspects at work and I became physically sick from the stress...hard to work and be professional when you have already been threatened by your boss that she had HR in her pocket and nobody was going to ever go over her "f-ing" head. Same Bill O'Reilly mentality. A bully is a bully, and now, as I look for a new job, the bullies still have theirs. We can not get conditioned to believe this garbage is acceptable. On TV, in our schools, or in the workplace...we need to walk away sometimes to keep our sanity. As for reasoning with Bill O'Reilly? Pllllleeaazzzzzzzzzzze! A bully and a bigot usually is not easily reasoned with, because they are so full of themselves they believe the garbage and their behavior is acceptable. Congrats to Whoopy and Joy – at that moment they did the right thing. If he had used the "N" word would Barbara have insisted they sit and discuss the subject?
Yoy old koots no nothing about the victims in new york and don't give me that crap that we can't say it was muslims behind the attacks because it was. Take you're PC and shove it. i'm in Afghanistan doing my part while you're acting like awanna be doing yours. I want to see how you would act if you lost friends and family on 9/11..
NO WHAT SHE MEANT IS THAT O'REILLY SHOULDN'T GENERALIZE WHEN HE SAYS: "MUSLIMS KILLED US ON 9/11" BECAUSE IT WASN'T ALL MUSLIMS, IT WAS JUST A SMALL GROUP OF MUSLIMS WHO DID IT, HE GIVES A RACIST PERSPECTIVE TO IT, HE SHOULD OF SAID "A GROUP OF MUSLIMS KILLED AMERICANS ON 9/11".
Bill O'Reilly is a toolbox
Saying "Muslims killed us on 9/11" would be the equivalent of some other idiot saying "Christians kill little girls in church bombings" its a blanket statement that is not only incorrect but inappropriate. Not all Muslims are Al Queda just like not all Christians are KKK.
1. If a host cannot act like an adult when someone voices an opinion they don't like, and have to throw a hissy fit, then the show should be renamed "Our View", fom "The View."
2. O'Reilly, like him or hate him, was correct. All those who attacked the U.S. on 9/11 were indeed Muslims representing Islam. They weren't acting as individuals or as political representatives. Were ALL Muslims involved? Of course not, and he didn't say that, either.
3. I'm sick of people like those two ultra liberal cartoonish celebrities using their influence to try to force their assumptive notions on others. It's a fascist tactic and very uncool.
One of the issues we gloss over too quickly is the lack of manners and courtesy by many TV personalities. O'Reilly is notorious for angry interruptions of those he interviews. Study his tirade against Barney Frank. Behar and Goldberg are no better in their actions. Walters at least showed some class and tolerance. As a culture we have accepted the "Jerry Springer Syndrome" as a part of our way of life. Calling people "Pinheads," no matter what your beliefs, is a clear example of divisiveness. And it is undoubtedly done for one reason, more bucks.
Everyone may have a 1st amendment right to free speech but I have every right to choose the company I keep and I would have walked off The View if Bill O'R had just showed up and not even opened his mouth......... jeez what a fear mongerer. What happened to a kinder gentler nation, many points of light and do unto others as you would have them do unto you..... let's get back to the basics of human decency.
I applaud Whoopi and Joy for having the guts to walk off the set. Sometimes when a situation escalates to the point this discussion did, it is better to walk away and let the discussion de-esculate a bit before returning. It wasn't like there were no hosts on the set when those two walked off. The audience applauded and I would have too. "Poor Bill" NOT, that guy knew exactly what he was saying.
Extreemist christians bomb abortion clinics and kill doctors in the name of god . Does that mean we can't have churches near a clinic ?
These comments got way off track - regardless of what O'Reilly said, those women are putting themselves out there as pundits and ersatz journalists, and when one of their invited guests (and they knew damn well what side he's on before he said one word) says something they find disagreeable, they WALK!? They take their Barbie dolls and crawl out of the sandbox? They would have done a lot more for their own credibility, their show, and date I say our GENDER had they just (WO)manned up and engaged in thoughtful debate. But they pretty much erased all doubt that there just a couple of shrill, narrow-minded, intellectual midgets.
People People...why so serious? Give these boobs talkshows so they can back to their own shows and talk about the controversy they made up on others talkshows. You dont think these "personalities" actually have KNOWLEDGE on a subject. LOOK AT MEEE!!! LOOK AT MEEEEE!!!! Back to the barn Bessie!
O'Reilly was/is a Patriot
The left loves to scream 'tolerance' when in fact they are the least tolerant of differing opinions and views.
Oh, the insanity of it all. The men on the planes were Muslim but they were fringe extremists.
I agree O'Reilly had the right to say what he said. However, I feel, his tongue was wagging quicker than his brain was thinking. Saying Muslims were responsible for 9/11 is akin to saying Catholic priests are pedophiles. Blanket statements are mis-leading and more often than not, inaccurate. My question is: don't the booze & strip joints [even closer to "Ground Zero] demean that "sacred" ground also?!
what is Sharia Law? and what part of it you do not like?
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg's actions just show their lack of class. The polls taken indicate that they are basically....a joke! Most of us educated and 'responsible' adults understand that there should be free religion. We just don't cram our beliefs down other people's throats like Behar and Goldberg. Truth hurts – so reply with your immature name calling and rants!! Have a nice weekend everyone.
All religions have a history of violence. Please refer to the Crusades, Christian persecution of Mormans, etc.! this country was founded on tolerance 9although we have not always practiced it). O'reilly, Beck & Llimbaugh are fostering hate & intolerance of large groups of humans. Now, the children of their listeners are bullying kids in school. The purveyors of hate must take a serious look at their use of Freedom of Speech...is it responsible speech? Time to care for each other & simply denounce demogogues od any persuasion!
ORielly is as bad as Beck. Screwed up, delusional products of our poisonous society.
The 9/11 terrorists killed 3,00 IN THE NAME OF ISLAM, and there is no dispute over that. Based on this fact alone, it is reasonable to believe that a mosque (or islamic cultural center if you want to call it that) represents a security threat so close to the ground zero site. That is the primary reason the mosque should not be allowed to be built there. It should not be allowed by law. I'm so tired of Americans thinking that we have to let everyone walk all over us without defending ourselves just because everyone is so focused on absolute freedom and not hurting anyones feelilngs. We should be ready to hurt feelings of anyone when our safety is in question.
Obviously it was the entire Muslim religion that bombed us on 9/11, just as it was the entire Christian religion that kills doctors that perform abortions and that blew up Oklahoma City.
I hate the thought of a mosque going up anywhere but they have a right to make their own mistakes.
O'Reilly is a shock jock!! His career depends on making outrageous comments or holding provocative positions. In that regard he is much like Sarah Palin. Both are entertainers who crave attention and are happy to make lots of money. Commentators such as Sarah–or Rush-or Bill-Glenn Beck keep themselves relavent by appealing to peoples' ignorance. Unfortunately this also has the effect of keeping foolish people in the dark about politics; and robs the political discussion of what should be a focus on real issues!! All such "demagogues" are harmful to America!!!
Yes they were Muslims, and they were extremists. But O'Reillyis right to say they are Muslims. The Muslim community would do good to come out in protest the extremists but they don't. Why is this?
I applaud whoopI AND Joy for their convicyion? Is this a joke? They both should be fired. They're two of the hosts! You never leave your own show!! They looked foolish and both should be canned ASa
This is like the chickens fighting for the rights of the fox to enter the chicken house. And Osama is laughing his head off in his cage about Americans who are helping him to spread Islam in the Western world.
Why would anyone watch this show to begin with?
Mmm...Silly premise...Given T. McVeight's Christian beliefs, no Christian churches should be allowed near the A.P. Murrah federal building in Oklahoma. Better yet, since he was carrying a copy of the Turner Diaries (a white supremacist book) no white people should be allowed to own any property close to the building...After all, it would be insensitive to all those black people that died in the bombing, given the fact that he did it to start a racial war. Perhaps also we should ban any Christian churches close to abortion clinics in Pensacola, FL, Birmingham AL, Wichita Kansas and many of the other sites where Christian terrorists have murdered doctors because of their religious beliefs...It would be the most sensitive thing to do for the victims...
A white person killed Martin Luther King. If someone went on stage and said whites killed Martin Luther King, we would have a fricken hissie fit over that. Be specific. Muslim religion is one of the most tolerant in the world. Although the nutties that were Muslim performed 9/11, they were extremists. Just like skinheads are extremist whites and black muslims are extremist blacks. Extremists come from many ideologies, but generally have one thing in common, suffering. And they want to exact that suffering on others. And then they pass it on to their children. So maybe we should not be making wide sweeping statements, like Bill O'reilly did. I'll admit he did apologize, but it was after he was corrected.
As much as I would want everyone to be free to build whatever they want everywhere they please, I have to say that many people do not have the balls to stand up and say that this religion of Islam is the worse religion at this moment in this era and it is all wrong with humanity UNLESS ALL Islamic women are free to say, think, write, whatever they want, when ALL Islamic women are free to love whomever they want whenever they want, are free to become Presidents of Countries, of companies, Judges, Teachers, Doctors, Engineers, UNTIL ALL THESE MILLIONS AND MILLIONS of oppressed human beings are free, Islam and all its teachings and sacred books is NOT a religion of peace and WILL NOT have my respect. No No, No, and NEVER!
So, since the Westboro Baptists Church protests at Vet funerals, that means that All Christians are protesting at Vet funerals. Violence in the name of God does not make it Gods fault or the fault of the believers. Blame those fanatical and insane terrorists. Stop generalizing!
and as usual the the blond girl just sits there and says nothing or does nothing as she agrees with Oreilly. Good for Whoopie and Joy for standing up to a biggot.
OMG Ventura was Right Look at this pic of Glenn Beck
http://www.picvalley.net/v.php?p=u/2182/4489266683835359611287155673l5rTVnHnXEU6jbcFSbUm.JPG
Yes, the 'ladies" way over reacted. How embarassing for them.
GOD,in one form or another will be the end of us
"The terrorist activities were done in the name of Allah, not because all parties involved share anatomical traits. To have a building celebrating the religion that was the inspiration for so many murders near Ground Zero should be offensive to all, not just those of us who are enlightened enough to see past our own egos"
LivingOnForeignSoil I couldn't have said it better myself. It is disrespectful to those who died at ground zero and cuts the hearts of their loved ones. There should be a level of respect for those lost and their families.
Love him or hate him, O'Reilly knows how to stir things up. He hung out the bait and the girls bit. They should have heard him out and responded rationally. Instead, O'Reilly managed to get some press at their expense by merely making a generalization he knew would rub them the wrong way.
BTW: Last time I thought about it I came to the conclusion that men acting in the name of Islam murdered people at the World Trade Center. By definition, they were Muslims.
Anyone who defends Islam and those who practice it, as a peaceful religion and peaceful people group are either uninformed or liars. Do some research on the escatology of Islam. Willful ignorance is no longer an excuse. These people are intending to dominate whenever and wherever they are able. Time will prove this.
A religion is defined by those that are allowed to define it by those that practice it. Meaning those that say they are but don't do anything to change the preception of what is are just as guilty as those that create the preception what is. Christians are know as loud, mouthy, arrogant, and self righteous. But I don't see any Christians trying to change that perception. Therefore Christians are what they are exactly what they are perceieved to be.
I don't see any Muslims denouncing 09/11 and making a concerted effort to change the idea that they are a warring, dominating religion. Therefore, Muslims are what they are exactly what they are perceived to be.
The cleric that spoke about the ground zero mosque THREATED us. His speech was an ultimatum. And we appluaded him for it. You, America, are choosing to ignore the reality of what is. If you continue, you will lose, you will be dominated.
Again I say that willful ignorance and the resulting appathy will be our undoing.
Behar and Goldberg are narrow minded fools. They show it time and time again on their show if someone says something they don't agree with. They absolutely despise someone like O'Reilly because he is actually educated enough to make an informed opinion. They like bullying their "View" and they are unable to do so with someone like O'Reilly. Thankfully you have people like O'Reilly who can put these women in their place without even doing anything.
Have you noticed that comments not in line with the left-wingnut views of CNN mysteriously disappear when they are identified as "abuse?" Watch this comment disappear within minutes of being posted if it gets posted at all....
To paint it as "only Muslim Extremists" is a crock. I distinctly remember people cheering in the streets on the West Bank when news was breaking of the attack, that is until their leadership realized how stupid that was and shut them down. Were all those people extremist too? I doubt it. But that tells me a lot of Muslims enjoyed what happened, which makes this building offensive to me any many others. It's the same as raising their flag on the site of a victory. If you don't think that's how Muslims will view it around the world you're only kidding yourself.
I am responding to this against my best interest. Mainly because from what I see most people on here just want to be rude and ignore logic and demean other people – and that applies to both sides. However, the issue discussed on the view and the subsequent comments are important. Extremism is a personality trait. It can be applied to ANYONE from ANYWHERE and depending on their particular location and culture it might exhibit itself in some other way. But you cannot blame the religion. Extremists are like moths and religions are flames. Extremism is also a way of viewing the world – it's a black/white, us vs. them mentality that many on this board share with those they hate. In fact, those who want to blame the entire religion for what happened have more in common with them than they do with the masses though they would never admit it or even be capable of seeing it. Extremism feeds more extremism. Moderates are the answer – both in politics and in the culture clash and in the religious divides. Moderates are the only hope for sanity and they must speak out and be heard.
I'll summarize my point early: everyone was wrong. Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, Bill O'Reilly: they were all wrong.
The ladies were wrong in their unprofessional actions of walking out and name-calling; they are in the public and professional spotlight and need to act with proper decorum, even – and especially – in the face of the likes of O'Reilly and his button-pushing antics. Having said that, however, Mr. O'Reilly was also wrong inasmuch as his views, though having a right to have and espouse such drivel, were intentionally delivered to provoke a reaction from the "socialists".
Bill O'Reilly cannot seriously believe all Muslims were on the planes on 9/11 and steered the planes toward the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and the one rerouted to the field in Pennsylvania. Considering reports of Muslims being among those killed on 9/11 makes it a rather difficult concept to understand, but why not? Not every Muslim on earth condones the actions of 9/11; the Islamic Center, from what I understand will be an interfaith center for the civil dialogue between those of varying religious disciplines, probably won't be a recruiting ground for terrorists. Inaccurate exaggeration deliberately designed to provoke others to emotional reaction instead of logical discourse is a sure sign of immaturity, just like walking away from such inaccurate exaggeration.
Why even invite that jack@ss in the first place?
If you don't live in Manhattan you have no business even forming an opinion about this. Stay in your own neighborhood and decide whats best for you, stay out of my neighborhood, muslims and all other religions are welcom to practice where ever they feel. Don't forget the mosque is already there, it's the community center that is causing the debate, and a Mosque was in the world trade center when it collapsed. Don't buy into the FOX b.s., this is political banter prior to an election, nothing more.
It's called "The View". Apparently it's OK to have a view as long as it's the same as Whoopi's. Yes! They overreacted. That seems to be the general "view" as a lot of America now. If you do not like what someone else is saying they're called "idiots, morons, retarded, tea-baggers, hater, etc."
Look, I love my country and my fellow Americans. I understand we're not all going to agree on everything. That's why we're a Republic, so we can solve our issues democratically. How many of you are adults and degrade yourselves by calling other adults names like a bunch of children, it's really sad, please stop.
Joy and Whoopi walk out and the devil dances with glee. Ignorance is his greatest shield. Keep denying the truth and the Imam Clerics words will surely come to pass...."The flag of Islam will one day fly over the White House". Me thinks it is there already.
Me thinks you are "whacked-out!"
Many people do stupid things in the name of Christianity. By the logic I'm seeing here on these comments, we should judge the whole Christian community for the acts of a few. These extremists did something absolutely unspeakable in the name of Islam but let's look at how many Muslims actually agree with them. Islam is the largest religion in the world. Let's all just condemn the majority of the 7 billion people on Earth, makes total sense.
I cannot believe the Bill O'Reilly – who I like but who is way to the right like some of the left wing nut jobs – thought that he would be able to go on a CLEARLY LIBERAL one sided view talk show like "The View". haaaa What was he thinking? Those stupid witches – excluding Hasselbeck – are left wing, socialist, loud mouth, intolerant, belligerent, foul mouthed, vile witches with no civility whatsoever. They DO NOT REPRESENT American and never will. They are washed up "has beens" who are useless in today's society. They couldn't even be civil to JOHN MCCAIN for crying out loud! I wouldn't watch that show or loud mouth Joy Behar's show if you paid me. It's like watching Keith Olbermann and his ilk. News flash – THE MAJORITY OF AMERICANS FEEL IT IS EXTREMELY DISRESPECTFUL TO BUILD A MOSQUE NEAR WHERE MUSLIMS KILLED THOUSANDS. CASE CLOSED. And I'm fairly certain most Muslims are not supportive of Israel – do your homework, Behar and Goldberg!
Just because the terrorists made this a religious issue means nothing....... those losers that protest at military funerals are doing it in the name of christianity, what does that tell you?
It is easy who sides with whom by reading comments here..
All I can offer is proof of what is currently happening around the world..
Look at Serbia – how the country got torn apart to create a moslem nation, because of people who migrated there from Albania. Look at the Uighurs in China, wanting independence.. Look at what happened in France by recent moslem immigrants. Look at the Phillipines – Muslim Mindanao. Even they have to deal with Moslem extremists.
Now look at countries that dont allow Christianity to be preached. Saudi Arabia, Iran, Oman, the list goes on and on. Are we protesting them? This country was built on judeo Christian principles. We have certainly strayed from that, and have invited trouble.. Proof: Crosses/10 commandments being taken down from Court buildings, etc. Did you happen to see who lead one of those efforts in Arkansas? A moslem female lawyer. They are using our laws to tear our beliefs down.. Then they will force us to impose their Sharia laws, first for their population in our country, and then finally on all of us, as their populations increase, because that seems to be their goal, come into a place, marry and convert a christian woman, have many kids with her, and also bring their countless relatives to this country, who in turn do the same. And this is all because we are bickering about Bill O'Reilly calling the 9/11 attackers moslems.. which they were, and in which religions name they carried out their attacks.. in the name of their god and Jihad which is a way to get virgins in the afterlife for them. Their religion preaches that the rewards are in the afterlife, much like Christianity, but, the difference is theirs condone killing infidels in the name of Allah, whereas ours says to turn the other cheek when someone strikes you!
How did you miss what Whoopi said??? She was trying to make the point that 70 muslim families lost their loved ones during 9/11. The only thing bleeped was a "b–s–" in response to O'reilly's statement.
I think Bill stated a fact without any judgement attached to that fact. The 911 terrorists were Muslim. He did not say all Muslim are terrorists. The question I want answered is, are they going to change the name of "The View" to "The Liberal View That Doesn't Tolerate Other Views"?
Whats not mentioned is that the same people who built and sponsored this mosque and another one in Virginia are the same group of people who ran the mosque in Germany where the 9/11 attackers were trained. I must admit its kind of goofy to see jewish women supporting the rights of muslims when if they entered the holy land those people would kill, behead them and keep their heads on a pole. Hasn't NYC had enough problems without this controversy?
OŔeilly´s reply to them here –> http://bramin.wordpress.com/page/2/
Hey – maybe Bill is right – after all, aren't all Catholics pedophiles, and all Christians Inquisitors and Invaders? Let's slap that big stupid brush on everything!
And the point about building the Y just zoomed over lots of heads here – picking nits and missing the point.
Where the prolem lays is that whensomeone of the Christian faith does something extreme a mojority of christians speak out against it and condem the actions. The reason I se why alot of people say "Muslims" did it is because tere was no such outcry from the so called moderate Muslims..Silence. I have worked with countless members of the muslim faith over the years and have conversations about this and the reason they say is because they are not allowed to condem their "Brothers", that is against their faith to do so. Maybe if they got some guts and would speak out more when there is such an atrocity carried out in the name of Islam maore people would be tolerent and not so quick to judge them as a whole for the actions of a few.
If O'Reilly cares that much, then why doesnt he rally to build a church in bagdad. What I don't understand is how quick people nowadays cast stones. But I love hearing the apologies. Keep the ignorance flowing O'Reilly, for the media, please.
Name calling (Patriots vs. Pinheads) is a cognitive bias technique often used to promote propaganda and is more than frowned upon in higher functioning discussion and debate. What he's saying is that anyone not in the upper right (authoritarian-conservative) quadrant of the political compass is a pinhead…and then he'll readily throw in Reductio ad Obamaum or Reductio ad Liberalum in relation to anything Muslim?
Considering how theocratic any discussion of anything American conservative has become, that he purposely (!) said it was "the Muslims" that attacked us rather than radical militant fundamentalist terrorist Muslims is more than suggestive of Christian Conservatives vs. the Great Big Evil (Muslims) dualism, which is just another rendition of same old same old The Forces of Good™ vs. The Forces of Evil™ dualism that can be used against entire religions, gays, women, and even other Christian denominations, historically.
He's going to wrap this garbage of his up in the American flag, in patriotism?
That he’s infuriating is an understatement but and I ‘d prefer to see someone confront O'Reilly on his tactics, to name the tactics he’s using to his face…without it being dismissed as just a liberal vs. conservative thing!
This is not 100 percent correct vs. pinhead world (yes, I realize both “sides,” heh, used the term pinhead).
They both wrong but O'Reilly's errors were profoundly egregious and are so on an international scale, with the loaded religisized dualism there. The world has become a gold fish bowl, with technology and all.
The labelling is there to let people with a low iq know just how he feels about certain people. When a religion has Jihad as a way of life, and attaining virgins in the afterlife, and its followers subject women to below human standards (wear a hijab in public), and allow easy divorces by men – utter talaq 3 times and thats it. and allow men to have multiple wives so that they can multiply their children for Allah, then that's what you get. Christianity on the other hand does not have Jihad written in the gospel as preached by Jesus. If anything he said to turn the other cheek if someone strikes you on one. He preached compassion and brotherhood for all mankind and look where that has led us? A doormat for the other religions to walk all over us.. France is living proof of what happens when you let them run you! Watch out America! There is a reason Saudi Arabia wont allow bibles to be circulated anywhere in their land. I challenge you to get permission to build a small chapel, or even a religious center anywhere in their country, let alone Mecca or Medina!
"Not Karen" said:
"The labelling is there to let people with a low iq know just how he feels about certain people. When a religion has Jihad as a way of life, and attaining virgins in the afterlife, and its followers subject women to below human standards (wear a hijab in public), and allow easy divorces by men – utter talaq 3 times and thats it. and allow men to have multiple wives so that they can multiply their children for Allah, then that's what you get. Christianity on the other hand does not have Jihad written in the gospel as preached by Jesus. If anything he said to turn the other cheek if someone strikes you on one. He preached compassion and brotherhood for all mankind and look where that has led us? A doormat for the other religions to walk all over us.. France is living proof of what happens when you let them run you! Watch out America! There is a reason Saudi Arabia wont allow bibles to be circulated anywhere in their land. I challenge you to get permission to build a small chapel, or even a religious center anywhere in their country, let alone Mecca or Medina!"
It's not labeling, it's **name calling** and it's not okay to excuse any tactic, no matter how wrong it is, in the name of political posturing and dualism. You made it more than clear you're a fan of Christian Conservatives vs. the Great Big Evil (Muslims) dualism. I made it clear I'm not a fan of this, and why.
I have a very different direct and personal experience with Muslims. I've been in Paris, France. Here in America, I broke bread with people of different religions, including Muslims, for years. I was consistently treated warmly and with much hospitality. And they knew I wasn't a monotheist of any stripe (no, I'm not an atheist of agnostic either). For every Muslim you see out there burning cars, rioting, or yelling jihad, there are many more who are excellent people and neighbors.
"Not Karen," as you call yourself, you're blatantly subscribing to the Christian Conservatives vs. the Great Big Evil (Muslims) dualism and deem those who don't agree with you as "low IQ," which is just more name calling, essentially.
Of course, it' doesn't help your case that many people with high IQs, IQs higher than yours, don't agree with you. Left, right or center, trying to claim that only people who have lower IQs don't agree is a dishonest claim and just a cheap shot.
In the U.S., 50 percent of all women will experience domestic violence, many will experience other forms of domestic abuse (emotional abuse, incest, financial abuse, the list goes on...). Well over 1,000 female teens and women will die from domestic violence attacks on a yearly basis. Women still routinely make less than men, often for doing the same job.
So while I wouldn't want to wear a hijab, and women certainly have it better here than in theocracies, we're not without concern in how we treat women and each other in our country.
Also, the bible is full of religious war stuff, if you bother to read it, but so few Christians do (read the whole thing).
And why mention that we can't set up a church in a Islamic theocracy? Thankfully, we live in a free country, a country that allows freedom of religion, and not just for the one you like.
(By the way, a quality Christian theologist can tell you that your misinterpretation of "turn the other cheek" is a common one.)
When are you Americans going to realize that the Muslims hate you guys they see you as infedels the great satan and think all of America is like Hollwood moraly bankrupt having livied amoung Muslims I can tell you this becase what they say in front of you is not what they say behind your back so WAKE UP AMERICA it was Muslims who attacked New york ,Mumbai Madrid and I can go on and on there is a holy war and idiots like Woopi and Joyce are living in a dream World AMERICA STOP PLAYING POLICTICALLY CORRECT GAMES PLEASE WAKE UP before it is too late
HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN THE NAME OF GOD?ANY GOD?
You see? 10 years later we already forgot...
but here's one thing I don't get. Until today the majority of "whites" are still blamed for the years of slavery that African-American were exposed by a minority of rich heartless people 200 years ago. But today, they just want to isolate what happened in 9/11 to a few radicals Muslims, having said that, why don't apply the same rules to what happened 200 years ago?
Sad thing is that as I said at the beginning.... we just forgot 9/11 while they still celebrate...
Before you start casting judgment on a religion you need to take a step back and look at the "Christian" religion. Christians have murdered millions of people over the past 2000 years because they didn't believe in Christ. Who knows who's religion is correct? No one! We have a bible that was written by men, not God. They wrote what they thought should be and what should happen. All of this was done 500 years after Jesus left, died whatever you want to say. Religion is corrupt and has been ever since it was invented.
Goldberg and Behar are too old to be children and too young to be senile. I guess that just makes them CRAZY.
I wonder how Whoopi would feel if the KKK wanted to build right next to her house.
Ignorant comparison, as the Islamic center does not advocate nor promote violence of any kind, or spreads any type of violent rhetoric... The KKK does. A more valid comparison would be "I wonder how Doctors feel when they see Christian churches close to abortion clinics where one of their peers got murdered by a Christian fundamentalist for conducting abortions." (and there has been a LOT of those over the years) And I'll tell you the answer. They don't care, because as educated people they are able to understand the difference between Christian fundamentalist and regular Christians.
The only two people dumber than Bill O'Reilly are Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar. What a bunch of staged political propaganda B.S.
It's ironic that Joy Behar would complain about hate speech when she is one of the most hateful people on TV. She might try to masquerade her hateful comments as comedy, but it's not.
Its funny to me that the show is called "The View" but when someone has a different "View" they walk off set.
"The" View, there can only be one view, and if your view doesn't match "The" view, then we walk out. haha, Again, this was just staged propaganda by large state run media.
The View invited him on there. He is a controversial figure and unfortuantely speaks what a lot of people think. If they felt that they could not handle it, then they should not have appeared as hosts. That is why nothing ever gets resolved. liberals are just as bad as conservatives.
We have gone too far with our political correctness. The truth is that Muslims did attack us and it is perfectly fine to speak the truth. Furthermore, if Christains had attacked us in the Name of Jesus; Christians around the world would have stood against such an evil act but Muslims around the world were dancing in the streets. Why don't they respond?
Is it becuase we are infidels and in general they support acts against anyone who does not bow down to thier false god, Allah?
As a woman, i am completely ashamed to be of their gender after seeing this display. Behar is an idiot, and it's a shame about whoopi...i used to think she was cool but she has become the ultimate crumudgeon. The two of them preach tolerance and this is what they dish out?? Heaven help us.
Let me get this straight. Goldberg and Behr can wise crack and make smart ass sarcasm towards everyone, disagree with anyone who doesn't follow their beliefs, and over talk anyone who is trying to have a mature conversation...yet walk away from someone who might stand up to their behavior? Give me a break. Good for O'Reilly for standing his ground. Goldberg and Behr – get some class, ladies. Clearly, O'Reilly is a personality force that can't be bullied with your big mouths.
Whoppi got very upset at the Muslin comment. She believes they should be able to build the Mosque in ground zero. I wonder how she would feel the KKK built a charter house right next to her house. Bet she would sing a different tune.
Dumb cow Behar was just following a pre-planned exit in her actions. She needs to drum up controversy for her failing tv show. Goldberg was just playing the role of "monkey see, monkey do". Neither of these dummies was factually feeling "outraged" at the comment. They just needed an "act" to stoke attention. Absolutely pitiful loser behaivor. As for Muslims "F–k'em and their BS.
I feel sorry for Bill. He is so hated.
It seems the women of The View can say anything about anyone and it is no big deal, but let someone else, no, let a man speak his mind and they throw a womans hissy fit and walk off. Rosie and Tom Sellek all over again. "The View" should be called "Our View."
While O'Reilly's statement was not precise it was true. I doubt that either Behar or Goldberg would have considered it demeaning if he had noted that Christians recently burnt Korans. Walking out was childish. What they should have done was to point out that the men who destroyed the Twin Towers were extremists and not representative of most Muslims. It was good theatre designed to draw attention and get more people to watch their show which is after all what they get paid for. It was not a good debating technique because it left O'Reilly's statement to stand without rebutal.
Bigots just don't get they are bigots. The View is not a news program, it is qusi-entertainment news...they are not held to a standard of impartiality. On the other hand certain news channels, such as Fox News, are held to that standard and O'Reilly fails it every time he opens his mouth. More importantly if he says something the odds are it is a lie. If he says it is night I'm getting out my sunglasses. There is only so much Joy and Whoopi should have to take and O'Reilly went way over that line...and he just doesn't get that he did.
@Patriot- People like you neighbor make up the majority of law abiding muslims in America.
I've met muslim tailors and businessmen overseas who wouldn't let me go on my way after we did business until I had lunch or at least a cup of coffee with them. They were very knowledgeable of current world matters and very enlightening, the last thing on their minds was perpetrating Jihad on the U.S. He explained that the intrigues of the Cold War created political power struggles within the muslim states and between them that have empowered radical fringe groups that see global superpowers as the root of all evils, although they themselves pine for power status by influencing and forcing themselves into the circles of government, he said that many muslims do not agree with their Draconian policies on daily life, but are powerless to do anything about it, that they would like to not be used as ropes in the East-West, Extremist-Christian tug of war. That sounded about logical to me.
Thanks to Mr. Ventura for adding a bit of perspective. Bill O'Reilly and his ilk are stirring the pot full of distractions. Who cares if it's hate speech, this type of diversion is much more sinister than that simple notion. The fact that we are all so caught up in this contrived controversy is the real problem here. Look around people. All of the wealth and trade currency of this country is controlled by a foreign owned cartel. We have traded our hard fought liberties for a false notion of security. Wake up!
Keep your head in the sand, you dhimmi fools. You will love life under sharia law.
Freedom of religion is freedom of ALL religion – not just one's own religion.
The people that want to build the community center are Americans. the people that sold the property are Americans. the developers are Americans. the construction workers will be Americans. The people that will use the community center will be Americans.
O Reilly makes more money than any of the idiots he panders to.
If he stop making shock and awe creating statements then he looses his brand power.
Lets think about something by branding a religion as terrorist we may actually be supporting the terrorists cause by inciting the majority of the moderates.
This is actually very simple. Factually the comment was correct. They were Muslims and they did kill us. Some people insist that we draw distinctions between Muslims and "extremist" Muslims but that's really just being PC. The modern history of Islam and its interactions with the West have been highlighted by terrorist acts again and again. This isn't just a one off event. So it is perfectly logical to call the terrorists Muslim because 1) they are, 2) they commit their terrorist acts in the name of their religion, and 3) in general the Muslim leaders around the world are either mostly silent when such acts occur or outright support them.
'Jeff ' put it very nicely, what may be an acceptable idea is not always a good idea.
I can honestly say that I am not proud to be American, because I would feel beyond ashamed to align myself with such uneducated people. Do you realize how much violence, war, and terrorism has been commited in the name of Christianity?
Behar reams Christians all the time. Her and Goldberg were itching to jump down O'Reilly's throat. He was explaining why he felt President Obama was distancing himself from voters, using the ground zero Muslim center fiasco as an example. The women on the View really only want you on there if you share their View. Very sad. They ought to all be put out.
Islamic terrorists destroy 2 building landmarks in downtown New York and then an Islamic place of worship is erected on the site they destroyed. What a great victory for Islamic terrorists.
I wonder when we can erect a Methodist church in Saudi Arabia or even enter their country wearing a cross?
I agree with Bill. Shame on Barbara for allowing Joy to disrespect Christians constantly for no reason but make Bill apologize. Muslims were responsible for 9-11. of course everyone knows the difference between extremists. The show has not reflected the VIEWS it is more one sided. it is not FAIR at all. I believe the 70% is really higher because not very many people got the call.
BILL SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN TREATED THAT WAY AS A GUEST!!!
They weren't Christians, Buddhists, Eskimos, Australians, Girl Scouts, Cyclists, Bridge players, etc...
They were Muslims.
Fact.
If you believe Bush, a handful of suicide terrorists defeated the entire US military on 9/11. They were allegedly from Saudi Arabia. The USA then attacked two countries that had nothing to do with 9/11 Afghanistan and Iraq. That is illegal. You can't do first strike attacks. That makes thousands of US soldiers aiding and abetting those wars war criminals guilty of a capital crime. You then proceeded to pound those countries to rubble using banned weapons. Then Obama put up to auction for US and European oil companies all of Iraq's oil reserves. The war was an oil theft after all, just as the Iraqis claimed. It would be preposterous to expect ANYONE to love you Americans after that behaviour, much less Muslims.
What do you expect from Joy and Whoopi? Two big mouths with no manners whatsover! I have zero respect for either one of them.
Unacceptable. Imagine if O'Reilly had walked off the set – the View would be criticizing him, and the MSM would be reporting the story differently.
Joy is a feminist bully and an elitist. We expect her to be disrespectful to guests. I am surprised at Whoopi, who is on the extreme left, but usually maintains self-control.
I'm unnerved by some of the comments made on this subject. How many wars were fought in the name of the Christian God (i.e. the Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, etc.) Oh and let's not forget why the US slaughtered all of the American Indians... Because we thought the Christian God wanted us to have this land. How many churches did we put up on their land??? Our First Amendment grants us the freedom to practice whatever religion we choose. Last I checked that includes Islam. They have the right to build an Islamic center anywhere they choose, just as Christians have the same right for their churches. It was extremists who brought the towers down, and we are partially to blame for their extremism (I'm not saying we are to blame for their actions). The more we try to impose our beliefs and squash theirs, the more extreme they become. It's fuel to their fire. I'm not a Muslim nor a Christian. I'm an educated New Yorker. Perhaps more people should educate themselves before opening their mouths!
Wade, I am also educated (not that it matters), I agree in freedom of religion as a fundamental right of Amercians. But in the case of muslims its just a cloak. None of the other religions here mention that they should kill you and overthrow your government if you appose them. Muslims do. By definition, using thier koran as proof, they are a violent terrorist organization.
I have heard that the BAPTIST's want to erect a CHURCH and SEMINARY on the main road into Arlington National Cemetary, where our honered heroes rest.....This after BAPTIST's desecrate the funerals of our lost soldiers.....This outrage HAS to be stopped.....Yes, they have the RIGHT to do it, but is it WISE ?
This is a tough issue. I really can't stand Behar or Goldberg and nobody to my memory has walked off the set when they said anything really stupid. At the same time, O'Reilly should have made clear from the start that it was extremists who attacked on 9/11, not ordinary Muslims. If I had to side with anyone, it's Bill but only slightly.
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When I see muslims getting together as a group and marching down 5th avenue arm in arm with Jews and Christians to denounce what their fellow muslims did, then I might feel more charitable. Even better, maybe they will allow infidels to enter Mecca. Until that time, I will continue to believe that the building of anything muslim near ground zero is extremely bad taste? Can they do it? Of course, this is America. Can I complain and have the right to tell them and anyone else it is in bad taste? Of course, this is America. Can Whoppi and Joy show how incapable they are of accepting opposing points of view and how little class they have? Of course, this is America. Even better that they displayed it on national TV for all of America to see.
Bill O'Reilly is of Irish descent & Catholics as am I I never remember anyone going on about Irish Catholics in the US during the IRA's bloody bombing campaign in Britain. I seem to remember people like Peter King weeping about "The Bold IRA"
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The View is a generic group of women who are not always informed. O'Reilly is a racist and an idiot who has an extremely hot temper. The main problem with the world today is it's run by men. Christian, Muslim, Jewish, etc. it doesn't matter. They have a tendancy toward violence. The wars are run by them, the prisons are filled with them, they abuse our children and women. I wish they would stop proving my theory right.
Don't democrats label ALL tea partiers crazy right wing extremists?? Isn't THAT the exact same thing? Talk about a double standard.
I blame the holocaust on those pesky christians.
That Bill is nothing but a sad hater. He should have been FIRED over this, yes fires... just like the many news anchors and others in the media who were fired for saying something somewhat anti-Jewish, even after they apologized. The double-standard is what makes this whole thing troubling. He is inciting HATE. He cares for ratings, not how people feel or who he is hurting. He has ZERO Muslim friends because if he did, he wouldn't have said what he said. Goes to show that he only surrounds himself with people his kind and doesn't care to know people and meet others and learn about different people that are outside his 2×2 circle. The idiot needs to have some respect for the President and needs to show some respect to the people hosting the show. What he said to Joy was inappropriate, basically telling her to shut up! He needs to be FIRED.
joy and whoopi should move to a different country. I haven't watched this show in several years and pretty much thought it had disappeared, but no, here it is on the front page again because of these two wacko's. I guess I'd include Barbara also, as she is suppose to be the boss and let them know what is expected of them for any guest. Guest????? Is Elisabeth Hasselbeck still there?
Bill was right...Behar was wrong. She just doesn' like Bill or for that matter any conservative. Just last April, Behar compared the prayers of former President George W. Bush to a terrorist’s Muslim prayers to Allah. Behar even provoked those in her own Catholic faith when she suggested in January of 2008 that Catholic saints were mentally ill.
Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black? Stop with the political correctness...everyone is rediculously sensitive these days. This is America...Say what you think!
I am starting a new religion today! one that says its ok to slaugheter everyone who doesn't think the way I do. Also we will remove your government and establish our own with no separation of church and state. We will pretend to be "peace loving" to your face while ploting to take over. We will use your weak stance on freedom of religion to exploit you. .........Sound good? Oh you say that is against the law? Then why do we alow the muslims to do it? Wake up people, Every country in the world that has muslims in it ar at war with them. Could it be the muslims are right and ALL of the rest of us are wrong? No, I say " if your problems is with EVERYONE else, then your problem is you ".
The ladies OVEREACTED unless they can empirically prove that even just ONE of the terrorists were NOT muslim then they have room for debate otherwise the statement "the muslims killed us" is 100% accurate.
Are there different shades of muslims? Of course there are extremists and moderates in ALL religions. They could have clarified that instead of behaving like childish menopausal women thinking they are in a rag.
Then again I've never seen a single episode of the show so I guess I didn't miss much.
Thanks to their behaviour, I think I'll go get myself a copy of that book.
Barbara, why do you keep hiring such imbeciles as Joy Behar, Whoopie Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell? I don't watch The View and the reason is egoists like Joy Behar, Whoopie Goldberg and Rosie O'Donnell.
Do you people forget that the thousands of Muslims were celebrating in the street on 9/11? Don't say it was just a few Muslims that disrepected our country and our people.
Love Whoopi, but she is a big time liberal. Behar is a straight-up idiot. HLN really lost points by allowing her to have her own show on their network. Bill could have been more poignant. He was a shade off point. I think he could have said "Boo" and they would have left the stage anyway. Sorry excuse for a ratings stunt.
I guess America is now declaring war on all muslim, do you really think you can win this war. Can we say Christians attacked us in Oklohoma and because the Germans are christians too..
You caused a lot of pain and these pin heads ultimately taking this country to hell
O'Reilly is such a dishonest person. He made a deliberately inflammatory hate speech, then tried to pretend he did not. He knows it is all on tape, and he also knows that his followers will close their lying eyes, they will trust him. He is slime. He is like a child craving attention who will do any outlaw thing to get it.
I dont understand what Bill said that is enraging people like Joy and Whoopi. Am I missing something? The terrorists that attacked us on 9/11 WERE indeed Muslim. (Which is what Bill was saying) That is a cold hard fact and anyone that wants to believe otherwise is in utter denial. Bill DID NOT say ALL Muslims are terrorists. People have it out for Bill and so they turn his words around.
O'Reilly is almost always wrong, but it was still inappropriate to get up and walk out.
How ironic. She supports free speech so much, that she refuses to listen and runs away, rather than listening to another perspective.
Why someone would walk out on a simplistic bonehead like O'Reilly is no mystery to me, what dumbfounds me is why anyone with a lick of sense would voluntarily walk IN on his knee-jerk rants. There seem to be some badly stripped gears inside this guy's brain-to-mouth drive.
Why would anyone take these blabbering idot broads seriously?
I'd like to see Joan Behar visit Pakistan without a bodyguard to spread her tolerance and love for muslims. Maybe when she has to pay an extra $40 to fly an extra checked bag with her severed head in it she might realize that the only moderate muslims are those who don't follow the word of the Koran.
When are you Americans going to learn that the Muslims hate you guys yes including the modrates they see you as infidels,the great satan and think all off America is like Hollyhood moraly bankrupt I have lived with them and heard what they say behind your backs all I can say is WAKE UP AMERICA speacally the libreals it was Muslims in 9 11 attack and Muslims in Mumbai and all over the World so STOP PLAYING POLICTICAL CORRECTNESS WAKE UP
He should've said muslim extremests did it, but, I knew what he ment, and so did any other reasonable thinking person in the universe.
The question is if they can place a mosque down there, of course they can. But is it appropriate for them to do so? I do not belive so.
Tell me this though, why is Baher getting her panties in a twist? She herself has said that anyone who prays has a mental disorder, or I guess she feels that only applies to Christians.
I can't believe I wasted time watching this clip. Frankly, I'm sick of hearing about this Mosque/community center. Build it, don't build it, I don't care. I certainly won't be going there. Let's talk about more important things eh?
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To the person who used the David Koresh Cult as one example of Christian extremists, I beg to differ. When one man isolates a group of people, changes their lives to suit his "teachings", wants to rewrite the Holy Bible, etc. he is not a Christian. David Koresh was many things, but a Christian he was not!"
Then the same logic applies to Osama bin Laden and his followers. Neither he nor Koresh represent ALL of Christianity nor Islam, but people can and do lump them all together. That's the problem.
Typical liberal behavior! If they can't name call, shout over the person they disagree with, they run away from the conversation! Their pompous arrogance is why the November elections will be a solid victory for conservatives. People are tired of the leftist rhetoric spewed from the mouths of the hollywood left and leftist blog sites. For liberals, it's my way or no way! Apparantly, to Behar and Goldberg, it wasn't Muslims that took down the twin towers on 9/11?
Personally, I think the whole thing was staged. However, he did state a 'fact'... the 9/11 bombers were in 'fact' muslim. I personally don't like the religion because it teaches its followers that anyone other than muslims are infidels and should be killed if they don't convert. There is not ONE other religion on the face of this earth that teaches that!
Can't argue with the truth? Walk off the set. Hey, with Joy and Whoopi watching from backstage it was a much better show.
Kill all muslims and veiwers of the "veiw"
I'm officially finished watching The View – never cared for it much before, but these hosts really deserve minimum wage for what they bring to TV. There's absolutely a better use of air time here...come on networks, show us some quality programming instead of this nonsense.
Timothy McVeigh was from the Christian right, should we ban any churches close to the Oklahoma city bombing site. Would O'Reilly say " Christians killed us" in reference to that bombing. We are trying to convince moderate Muslims that we are not anti-Muslim just anti-extremist, it would be complete hypocrisy to deny the right to build even if it is a mosque. Bush himself warned against vigilante attacks against American Muslims, this would be vigilante building code.
Keep this kind of stupidity up and it won't be long before we are saying, "One nation under Allah" Muslims have been for centuries trying to turn this world into a 1 religion society. Christians have been fighting back over this for just as long. The extremists want to put society back hundreds of years in the name of their God. Christians look forward to the time of the return of Jesus Christ. I am a forward thinking person, so you know where I stand. When we start believing we should not offend anyone, we are going to a place where we cannot turn back. You will never eliminate all intolerance. If you begin to take the side of Muslim Sharia law, you have already put one foot in the grave. Are the women on the view ready to wear a burka?
Our country is so focused on being politically correct and sensitive to everyone's issues and concerns, why can't everyone understand that this is a time where we need to be considerate of those who lost their loved ones on such a tragic day. It is not Muslim vs. Christian - it is a matter of respecting the grief and memories of those who live with the memories of that day. What is baffling to me is that the Muslim leaders would rather force this issue than use this as an opportunity to heal the wounds of all Americans, of any and all religious faiths –
The "hosts" who walked off were unprofessional and ungracious as hosts. They missed a great opportunity to counter O'Reilly's views intelligently by indulging in childish theatrics. They, like O'Reilly, showed themselves for who they are. Barbara is right – and showed more class.
The act of walking off their own set was obviously pre-planned. Nevertheless, it demonstrates behavior that many liberals are exhibiting lately. It's an attempt to trump an argument with an infantile temper tantrum.
Muslims never do anything wrong. Just ask any of them.
Of all days, I was home to watch live yesterday. First I can't stand him, and second I think he is a liar. Second, I have to believe there is no way 70% of American's disapprove of the mosque that IS NOT AT GROUND ZERO but is 3 blocks away. If this is true, then we can't build anymore Catholic Churches (those priests you know) and no more Luthern Churches (I think Timothy McVeigh was one of those). And for God sake, no more Baptist Churches, pretty sure Eric Rudolph was one of them. Extremeists get the most PRESS. America is in a battle alright but it's not about terrorism anymore. In my opinion it's about taking the time to become educated on the issues. Yelling louder doesn't make it the right message to listen to. It's such a critical time people. It wouldn't have mattered if McCain had won 2 years ago. Bush left a flaming bag of sh-t on the steps of the White House for whomever was going to be there next. You can't fix 8 years of horrible lying and premeditated decisions in 2 years – it doesn't matter who you are. I believe our President has a GREAT capacity to do good for this country. Please get out and vote with a reasonable mind and let the Right / Republican's / Tea Party folks know that you are an educated, free thinking, American who believes that you do not want to become one the them....the new American Extremeists that are trying to tear our country apart word by word.
I support Bill ORiley's free speech, but I also think he's the personification of US citizens' inability to think critically. I wish more people viewed this hypocrit for what he really is...an entertainer and Republican spokesman or the opposit of Bill Mahr, for example.... Of course, ORiley isn't funny, he's got the same allure as a car wreck with injuries...you just can't look away.... Note that I did not say ORiley and Republicans are "conservative". Our economy is in terrible shape and our national debt & deficits exist due to selfishness. Selfishness isn't limited to one party or the other, but in general, the Republicans are currently setting the standard.
This show is not about an open exchange of opinions, it's about their open exchange of opinions. I had to stop watching this show. They were rude to the guests I really wanted to hear. Whoopi promotes races bias behavior. Joy is just totally closed minded on other opinions other than hers. Both Whoopi and Joy are unprofessional in their behavior. Walk off the stage because of a guest's opinion. Barbara Walters, shame on you for keeping this type of women on the show. Have an adult on your show. Stop hiring babies. I only watched this small little film clip of the 'VIEW', then I got me mad at myself for even watched it.
Muslims are people who practice Islam, and those 9/11 were extremists.
How many blogs have I seen where the Christianity was attacked because of the crazy Westboro clan. But whoa be it if one says that Muslims were responsible for 9/11, they were. Just as I know that as a Chrisitian, I have nothing in common with the beliefs of Westboro, I am quite aware that all practicing Muslims are not terrorists.
I also know that if a monument, building, etcs., was to be built in downtown OKC, that had anything remotely connected to McVeigh, there would be riots for days.
They want sensitivity for Muslims, well Muslims better have sensitivity for New Yorkers and the rest of America. Stop pushing the issue and move on down the road, there are a million other places to build your mosque.
I don't watch the View,but I do watch Bill Oreillyat Fox news. It is plain and very simple.,and without any argument, The Muslim extremists killed 3000 Americans. They have so much hate for the US. The Cordoba house that is being planned to be built on ground zero is in the history of muslim religion. Unless we Americans have not heard of its history,then we are ignorant of what is going on in the Muslim world. Wake up Americans,there is enough mosques in our country. Respect the innocent Americans killed on 9/11 or have we forgotten them?
If anyone has ever watched the Bimbo Behar Show, they would know she's nothing but an overated schmuck!
Joy Behar is so oo full of herself, can't listen to someone's opinion without storming off her job ? I don't watch The View because of her, sorry I tuned in just as this was happening to guest Bill O'Reilly.
Using the logic in a couple of comments!!! Because of Fred Phelps Westboro "Church" actions all christians hate US Soldiers?
Sounds like O"Reilley got the best of those two girls and I say girls because Joy Behar is a whinning little girl type, she does othing but whine all of the time, that is her thing. Whoppi seems to have lost her guts, they both could not handle it and so ran, they both ran! Wow, how mature of them... Quite frankly, I think they both should be fired.
No one said Christian Terrorist killed the families in Oklahoma City did they?
And for those siting McVeigh, please stop. He was an anti governement wack job. He did what he did because he was mad about what he saw as government excesses in things like Wacko and Ruby Ridge. He may have been Christian, but he did not do what he did as a self proclaimed defender of Christianity or because he was inspired by Christianity. You would be better served using IRA terrorists as an example (and I doubt the Cathoics would try to build a chucrh in close proximity to an IRA massacre nor that they would be defended if they did...by Joy Behar or anyone).
I am a Christian India, born in Saudi Arabia and educated in the American International school there. I know live in Canada. Talk about mixed up! But my point is this: I find it funny that Saudis, Pakistanis and other Muslims want to build Mosque's etc in countries like America, France and the rest of Europe, when in Saudi Arabia...there are NO churches, Christians are not allowed to even display bibles (you can be arrested or thrown out of the country in 24 hours) and you can't have religious meetings even in your home. Whereas they make such a big deal about women being allowed to wear the burka in France and Canada, in Arabia...foreign woman have to keep their heads covered, no one can wear shorts and they have places where families have to split up into the males in one place and females in the other. Don't get why no one talks about this double standard!
They were both right in walking out. O'Reilly is attacking all Muslims and that is wrong. It is a small percentage of fundamemtalist or radical muslims who are attacking people all over the world. I am not wild about the idea of them building a community center near ground zero, but our country is based on freedom of religion and they should be allowed to do it. The main thing that bothered me was O'Reilly's mannerisms. First, he raised his voice. He is supposed to be a professional and he does that all the time on his show. Second, he cuts people off when they are talking. He is a disrespectful and rude conversationalist. Third, it is as if what he has to say is "right' and everyone else is wrong. I used to watch him, and decided to stop when I saw him interview two muslim women, years ago, on his show and he was absolutely obnoxious to them. The media today is all theatre and that is bad, but I agree with Olberman, O'Reilly is the "worst" person in the world. Thumbs up to Whoopi and Joy and Obama.
Can we not say that "Men killed us on 9/11" or "people killed us on 9/11"?
Is that hate speach? Does that mean that I'm saying all men are terrorists or that all people are terrorists?
Fact: Muslims, in the name of "Allah" following the "prophet" Mohammad, stole some planes, ignoring the cries and pleas of the people there, and flew the planes into buildings, killing and destroying for their idea of "god".
It's not hate speach if it's true.
Ok fine.I admit that Oreily misspoke when he implied that muslims attacked us..I think this only happened because he was in a heated debate about a very passionate topic for all americans. My point is they could have reacted better instead of walking off stage. I expect a behaviour exhibiting maturity and self restraint from these two women to be able to listen without getting that emotionally compromised. And at the same time people,Oreilly, need to get their facts straight before speaking on national television lest they offend anyone.
While I in no way blame all Muslims, and I grew up with several Iranians who are great friends (and who abhore what happened), this thing on the view was insane. To be offended when someone says "Muslims killed us on 9/11 is crazy and is PC taken to the ridiculous. They were Muslims. They attacked because they were Muslims and declared a Jihad. Period. I amy feel bad for moderate Muslims. I may feel bad for my friends, but that does not change the facts.
Could we say, "MEN killed us on 9/11"? Specifically MEN as the gender that takes up arms to settle scores and wage war or jihad or whatever? It is a fact that MEN killed us on 9/11 and women did not. Shall we ban men from the WTC site and a radius of 3 or 4 blocks?
I think the folks have it exactly right when they say the extremeists win if they can get us to repudiate our Consitutional principles of freedom of speech, religion, and congregation. And they are winning with the pinheads out there...
I think we saw why it is called "The View" and not "the Views". Only one view is allowed.
Ten – An education from one of your elders. America was not founded on "freedom of religion" – it was founded on Judeau Christian values and "freedom from religious persecution". Where we have made our mistake is recognizing anything anybody wants to call religion as religion. If they want to practice Wiken, Satanism or anything else, they have that right, but we should recognize it as having the same values for our nation, therefore, we should not grant them the same status as Judeau Christian relgions.
Bill O'Reilly is a moron. Obviously he is taking the Sarah Palin approach of just saying anything ignorant.
Just wondering how far away would any Muslim building have to be to be considered appropriate? Or even better, where is the closest Muslim currently located at? Just asking...
What is it called 'THE VIEW' when the hosts are blinded by their own prejudices?
Yes this country was built on capitalism...
I hear there is a new talk show coming out with a new group of women, hope they drive View in the ground, bunch of old bitties...
As far as O'Reilly's statement...I'm not an oversensitive, PC crazy person like Joy and Whoopi and the rest of those broads, I get that he meant terrorists, America isn't stupid, we get what he was saying. Joy and Whoopi over reacted which is typical of them.
I stopped watching the 'VIEW' several years ago. Did you see in the clip that Joy Behar was sitting there quietly and then she jumped up and made her "I'm not sitting here and listening to this" speech. Joy and Whoopi looked like a couple of 5th graders that didn't get their way. I am embarrassed by the display of unprofessional behavior from these devas. I will never forget Whoopi Goldberg, in all her open minded wisdom told her opinion that only Blacks can say the 'N' word. She will continue to use the 'N' word because it's her right to use it. Everyone else is cannot say the 'N' word. I had to stop watching the VIEW. I did watch this little news clip. I'm even sorry I did that. Join me in NOT watching this pathetic excuse of a "open exchange of opinion " show.
Killers of 9/11 were Saudis; does O'Reilly approve importing their oil?
So according to this line of though,catholic priest that abuse boys are gay, therfore all catholic priests are gay?
If all muslims are extremist than all christians are aswell. Bill O'Rielly is a pinhead christian extremist who should be banned from tv for his hate of women and there reproduction rights
perhaps put a k.k.k. plaque on a black college wall or a nazi flag beside an Auschwitz oven
@Andrew That was a horrible annalogy. Black don't go into buildings and bomb them so that Black superiority can be acknowledged. That's crazy. I agree people shouldn't be punished for their religious but the way you tried to explain it was just plain odd. A better explaination would be because some Catholic Priests have molested some children that they shouldn't be allowed to build a cathedral. That kind of thing. That said I think building the mosque there is in poor taste.There is no denying that.
If you watched the interview, you would see that it actually started when Ms Behar quipped that most people thnk the mosque are ok with it to be built at the proposed site. Ms Behar lost it when O'
Reilly CORRECTLY noted that over 70% oif Americans DO NOT WANT the mosque built at the proposed site. THIS was based on an August CNN poll in fact!. Ms Behar could not accept this FACT and began her dramatics rather than allow OReily to defend his 70% data, attempting to drown him out when he did in fact note the CNN poll as proof. . She acted like a child who holds their breath, stomps their feet, and screams when they dont like what is being told to them. Shes not a professional, and her actions proved it. She should be fired and let someon on the show who can truly be progressive in ther ability to hear both sides of an argument. Liberals like Behar belie their supposed "progressive ablity to intelligently hear both sides of an issue"..they are open to alternative views as long as they agree with them first! If they disagree they will belittle you, or better yet throw a tantrum .!. Behar proves it.
This whole idea of building this muslim cultural center was only designed to cause trouble. As a combat veteran that served in Iraq I feel that if this allowed to happen that the terrorists really did win this war on terrorism. When are the people of this country going to wake up and see that Islam does not have any place in America?
What a tragedy in the media landscape. We've gone from Cronkite and Murrow to Whoopi and Joy. Of course, you have to question the sanity and reasoning abilities of anyone tuning in to hear these two simps and entertain anything they have to say. O'Reilly was on target: The people who attacked us espoused the Muslim faith. It rather goes without saying they were extremists, but the fact remains. That simple statement in no way condemns the entire Muslim faith and certainly doesn't demonstrate the vehemence and vitriol of the other anti-religious statements lobbed viciously on this and so many other CNN comment strings. The Muslim faith isn't an issue — except that little concept of jihad (www.jihadwatch.org).
Frankly, I'm not a fan of O'Reilly but he was right, at least in his full explanation of who perpetrated the 9/11 attacks. Joy and Whoopie can demean other religions, Catholics in particular, so why can't they listen. Catholics moved a convent further away from Auschwitz in consideration of the sensitivity of the Jews that were killed in the camp so why can't the Community Center/Mosque builder share the same sensitivity? Sure, many Muslims were killed in the 9/11 attacks but the Nazi's also killed millions of Catholics in the death camps, but that is not the point. The Jews were the stated target and largest single group killed by the Nazis. The Islamic extremists were the perpetrators of 9/11 attacks. The parellels are clear as to the proper human sensitivities on each matter.
It was completely unprofessional of Joy and Whoopi to stalk off like that. The guest was a known conservative-and he, like all of us, has the right to his opinions and the right to say them. Joy and Whoopi were grandstanding and are clearly trying to be politically correct. Yes, it was Muslims that destroyed the World Trade Center. Yes, Rauf has the legal right to build close to Ground Zero. And yes, all of us have the right to agree or disagree with the wisdom of doing so.
I quit watching The View several years ago. I find Joy Behar to be without humor. Her attacks on Catholicism show that, while purporting to be offending by Bill O'Reilly's remark about Muslims, that she is a hypocrite. I hate to think that anyone would think she speaks for all women because I am not impressed.
When did you every see a man host leave his show like that.Just proves the intelligence of these woman. This was a planned event, don't be fooled.If Obama was on and said the same thing about the Jews, they would be so far up his butt they probably wouldn't have heard it.
People, this is the entertainment business ... nothing more, nothing less. Will the "walk-off" and hate talk increase TV ratings and book sales? That's what it was all about None of those people are remotely qualified to do anything else but entertain.
Bill O'Reilly also spreads hatred just as Ahmadinijad. There is no difference except Bill has more listeners and they are all Americans thus the Americans are brainwashed by this stupid so called journalist. Any smart American will not listen to him.
Whoopi and Joy are the two main reasons that I stopped watching The View. Both are obnoxious loud-mouths that can't tolerate the opinions of those who disagree with them. And btw, I'm one of those people that feel it's inappropriate to build a mosque at the proposed site. There are other, less inflammatory locations where local Muslims can worship.
O'Reilly is certainly NOT an extremist. If anyone is it is that Joy and Whoopi. If you love America then YOU would NOT want a mosque to be built that represent the very people that killed many Americans to be built. As you know they did in Spain, it was a momument of celebration of what the Muslims had accomplished. People we are AMERICANS and we need to stand firm on not allowing Muslims or any other extremists group to come in and distroy what we have long enjoyed. FREEDOM! If anyone has an opinon different from these ladies they dont want to hear it. At least O'Reilly welcomes people on his show and when they disagree with him, he doesnt walk off the set. Shame on them what whimps they are. I believe in America and I will stand up anytime that my country is attacked and I would hope that true Americans would.
I just wonder what in the world these ladies thought when they invited him to be on the show in the first place? They KNEW who he was and his stand on many issues. Look, if you are going to invite a guest on the show, then be professional with your interview. Why should the interviewee agree with the hosts views? If they only want guests who agree with them, then only invite guests who agree with them. I think Whoopi and Joy are totally ridiculous in this situation. It was rude to invite these people over, knowing what their views are and then act shocked and offended when they say things that they disagree with! How absurd!
O'Reilly knew exactly what he was doing when he worded his answer so broadly. He love to be outrageous, he fancies himself "so honest that it's shocking". He goaded these women into a reaction and they went for the bait. Though I'm no O'Reilly fan, Whoopi and Behar lost in this exchange, when they again showed that "Liberal" no longer means "open to considering all ideas" – it now means just the opposite.
Goldberg and Behar are poster children for the extremist left, bleeding heart liberals!!!! This sect of people DO NOT want to hear the truth! THEY DO NOT RESPECT ANY OPINION THAT DIFFERS WITH THEIRS!!! THEY ACTED LIKE THREE YEAR OLDS BY WALKING OFF OF THE STAGE, BUT IT JUST PROVED MY POINT. THE NAME OF THE SHOW SHOULD BE CHANGED TO "THE VIEW FROM THE LEFT!" Thanks Behar and Goldberg for continuing to prove to us what low classed individuals the left wing extremists are! HOORAY AND CUDOS TO BILL O'RILEY! YOU ARE A CLASS ACT!
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What a bunch of immature b%$#$s!! You invite a guy on the show – who you know is not going to agree with your point of view – and then walk off when he says what you know he is going to? As far as Ventura on this thing, he's a fool and needs to stick to wrestling....
Joy and Whoopie are SO out of touch with the 'view' of Americans. Can't take the heat.
I'd like to see both of them get a whoopin'
The collective IQ of Whoopi and the other no-name chick don't total up to O'Reilly's. I doubt he lost sleep over it. He was only promoting his book, so he used them as much as they abused him. That's show biz.
All the huffing and puffing won't help Behar's ratings.
I think it's pretty ironic that Joy was so upset that he seemed to group all Muslims together in his comment yet she does the exact same thing when talking about Christians. Those who live in glass houses.......
How do you tell the difference between an extremist and a non-extremist? Post incident investigation. The point being, they're identical when assimilated into Western culture. Extremists have learned this as a strategy, assimilate, keep a low profile and make subversive long-term plans when entering Western countries either in order to gain political/social power or opportunity for violence. Don't think that both strategies aren't intended to work together. Extremism is not always violent and plans to conquer the west don't always involve armies, tanks and genocide. The East vs. West extremist movement has begun to learn how to use what we prize most as a weapon against us... individual rights and freedoms. They have begun to understand that a long-term subversive plan will eventually give them control in a democratic Western society than initial violence will ever afford them. Certainly there are those who still want to make a statement and kill Americans and Westerners in strategic locations and at strategic times, but it's a mistake to think of them alone as extremists. I'm not condoning fear-based reactions of severely limiting freedoms, but at the same time, we can't be naive any longer about who thinks of Americans as enemies and what sort of behavior they will engage in to damage, corrupt and/or eliminate us. That's what I take from O'Reilly's comments. I know he typically overstates his arguments, making them too broad and too severe, but that's his intent. It's his MO and it's certainly no secret if you've ever heard him speak, or read anything he's written. Certainly the hosts of The View were aware of this ahead of time. I don't doubt the sincerity of their theatrics, but theatrics they are nonetheless. Theatrics such as Bill O'Reilly himself might engage in.
I wish those two communiston the show would never come back! If you invited a guest to your show and know what he is standing for...why ever you show up for work? It was a bad behavior for a public. They should respect what he was saying and try to proof their point. The problem is that MUSLIMS are mostly exstremists. No one even until this point stand up and said we are the people as you are and we ASHAMED what happen. And the idiot who wants to built the mosque is continuing trying to scare us if we donot build than more attacks will be in the future. What a hell is this????????????????
So, if the guests who are INVITED on the show do not agree with the liberal minds of Behar and Goldberg, then the two hosts pack up their Barbies and go home just like children would do??? I REALLY hope I never hear the words "narrow mind" come from their mouths again. These people are NOT professionals!
The view knew what they would get with O'reilly. What he said was his opinion. Joy and whoopi should have taken his words as a grain of salt and move on. now, they are tarnished because they put themselves on his level by walking out. Always take the high road...next time he is on the show, they need to remove themselves from the segment. it's obvious they don't like him...everyone has opinions so to get upset about it is so not worth it, and again simply because O'rielly believes what he said, doesn't mean it's everyone's belief...c'mon View women, stay focused..you have a great show!
Regardless of how ticked off the ladies were, leaving the set was unprofessional.
Orchestrated from start to finish.
"Okay, so – as soon as he says something controversial, we'll walk off in anger..."
Hell, Bill may have been in on it.
Why didn't anyone overreact like this to churches built in Oklahoma City after Timothy McVeigh killed hundreds of people, including a day care center full of children? He was to Christianity what the hijackers were to Islam.
I think they have every right to build where they want to, because this is America! But it shows poor taste, and lack of judgement. Why would you want to make a great deal of people unhappy? Why not just build it a few blocks away?
My Uncle was MURDERED by Muslims on September 11, 2001. The political correctness of the left in thiscountry don't know how to call a SPade a Spade. Why defend these people instead of your own country and loved ones?
How about what a joke the "ladies" of the view are for walking off the set when they hear something they don't like. Real professionals there...
Muslim extremists are still Muslims. Every religion does have its extremists, but the Muslims seem to be the ones killing the most people. Not talking past. Talking about modern times.
CNN are a bunch of censoring Book Burners
Jesse Ventura is the best.
CNN in censoring again! They will regularly filter or not post. Another tactic is to "allow" your post but stick it way back in the order so noone will read it. If you scroll back and look for post where the date and time is out of sequence you will find the "JUICY" stuff. Big brother is watching
Ms Behar has only one opinion and that is her own. She seems to be unwilling to even listen to anything she is in disagreement with. I agree with Bill. He ruled the conversation. I like Woopie as an entertainer but she is too liberal for me. Sherry for the most part is just dumb. Bill is not politically correct and that is good. Political correctness has gone way to far. Sometimes the truth hurts, but, it is still the truth.
Sorry but i agree with O'Reilly, totally inappropriate to build anything to do with Muslims near ground zero. I'm also a Toby Keith fan.
Some of you people are ridiculous. I agree the way he said it wasn't the best way of making his point, but nothing he said was untrue. Behar and Whoopi did what liberals do, they can't win an argument with facts so they get all emotional and erratic. Those two women made themselves look like idiots.
Can all you kids go back to your coloring, the adults are trying to talk here.
When did OFFENDING SOMEONE BECOME A CRIME?!? In America we have this thing called FREE SPEECH! Hey, the hater's are forcing on to build their mosque that OFFENDS the majority of American's. Can't they be sensitive and MOVE THE DARN THING elsewhere? They laugh as we bicker and they bully on. You won't be laughing when they behead you! You think you are gaining favor for defending them? HA! Your heads will come off just as easily as the one's who openly oppose them! WAKE UP AMERICA!!
If I were to start a new religion called the Church of Tom, and as part of my religion it was our goal to kill anyone who did not agree, establish my absolute rule in this land, with no separation of church and state, you would want me locked up as a terorist (and rightfully so). So why are ALL muslims not arrested and charged with terrorism?
Fredom of religion is a shield Muslims hide behind, They are a terrorist organization and thier Koran proves it.
I think MSNBC reported around 70 innocent Muslims (who were mostly American) were killed in the 9/11 attacks. I believe that MSNBC also reported that there were two mosques (or Muslim praying areas) that were located in WTC 2 and obviously destroyed in the 9/11 attack and there was a Muslim praying area (please excuse my terminology if that is inaccurate) in the Pentagon. Because of the security clamp down after the attacks, some Muslim family members were denied the right to travel to the funerals of loved ones they lost.
As usual, O'Reilly is way out of line with his broad brush. With the amount of BS and fear FOX news stokes and plays on, their propaganda strikes me as the being result of news terrorists – scaring Americans into bogus or over the top reactions based upon their inaccuracies.
Muslims have no problem lumping all Christians together so what's the problem with Bill speaking his mind? It's true.
Not a Bill or Fox fan but Bill's right. It was muslims who attacked us. Most people are igonorant sheep who want to sound "nice".
Fredom of religion is one of our greatest rights in America, but it should not apply to muslims, and here is why:
Thier "religion" avocates the violent overthrow of anyone who opposes them (including our government). Then to establish thier own law (based on religion with no separation of church and state).
If I were to start a new religion called the Church of Tom, and as part of my religion it was our goal to kill anyone who did not agree, establish my absolute rule in this land, you would want me locked up as a terorist (and rightfully so). So why are ALL muslims not arrested and charged with terrorism?
Because people have to actually commit a crime and be convicted in America before we lock them up. Duh. I hope you're a troll, because that is such a stupid thing to say.
Your right Audrey, they do have to commit a crime to be locked up. And they HAVE. It is a crime to threaten to kill someone, it is a crime to threaten to overthrow the government. And that is exactly what they have done. Not only did they say it, but they wrote out thier intentions in thier manifesto to take over the world through violent means, the name of the book is called the koran. Read it. Study it. Get educated befor its too late.
Not a fan of Bill O'Reilly or The View, but, he won. He got under their skin, got them worked up, got them to leave. They lost it and, thus, lost.
Bill O'Reilly 2, Joy/Whoopi 0.
O'Reilly represents the worse we have in people. He's a pinhead (funny because he calls other people these types of names.)
O'Reilly like the Devil couldn't tell the truth if his life depended on it.
Read the book "BECAUSE THEY HATE" by Brigitte Gabriel. She grew up in Lebanon and lived a life similar to ours, UNTIL the MUSLIMS came in and took over, completely destroying any and all who opposed Islam. She lived in a shelter for several years fearing for her life daily. Going out at all meant to risk your life. She KNOWS the true hate of the Muslim's and in her book, you will learn Islam is NOT a peaceful religion. Muslims are taught from childhood to hate and to lie, in order to take over ALL who oppose them. You who are ignorant of these facts defend them and their rights to build this GZ mosque. They laugh at you because building a mosque on land where they killed "infidels" is their way of showing the world they have had a victory! Brigitte WARNS America to wake up – do NOT believe even your so-called Muslim friends who are moderate/peaceful. When it comes down to it, in the end, they WILL turn on you in defense of Islam. Why? BECAUSE THEY HATE you and all who oppose Islam. Read the book!! Bill O'Reilly, shame on you for APOLOGIZING! You could've said: "No intention of offending anyone, but this is my opinion like it or not". Since WHEN IS OFFENDING SOMEONE a crime?!?!?
It's sad when people get upset over the truth. Not a fan of O'Reilly, but I don't disagree with him her. Who cares what Whoopi Goldberg thinks?
Muslims DID kill us on 9/11. Why did Goldberg and Behar flip out over that comment?
Are we so brain-dead that when someone says "Muslims killed us on 9/11" that we can't comprehend that this statements doesn't apply to ALL Muslims? Do we have to say "19 Muslim Terorrists killed us on 9/11 but they don't represent the entire Muslim religion"? Does every statement have to carry a legal disclaimer?
The political correctness in this country has gotten WAY, WAY out of hand and its killing political discourse. When someone can't say "Muslims killed us on 9/11" because its offensive...how can we carry a discussion anymore?
Muslim Terrorists killed thousands of Americans on 9/11. That's a fact. Covering up that fact because it ruffles our political sensitivities or doesn't help our political cause is flat-out wrong.
Nobody watches "The View" anymore so Barbara gets O"Reilly on the show to boost their ratings. Liberals like Whoopi and Joy can't handle the truth so they walk out. Just shows you how unprofessional they really are. Dan Rather must be their mentor.
Read the book "BECAUSE THEY HATE" by Brigitte Gabriel. She grew up in Lebanon and lived a life similar to ours, UNTIL the MUSLIMS came in and took over, completely destroying any and all who opposed Islam. She lived in a shelter for several years fearing for her life daily. Going out at all meant to risk your life. She KNOWS the true hate of the Muslim's and in her book, you will learn Islam is NOT a peaceful religion. Muslims are taught from childhood to hate and to lie, in order to take over ALL who oppose them. You who are ignorant of these facts defend them and their rights to build this GZ mosque. They laugh at you because building a mosque on land where they killed "infidels" is their way of showing the world they have had a victory! Brigitte WARNS America to wake up – do NOT believe even your so-called Muslim friends who are moderate/peaceful. When it comes down to it, in the end, they WILL turn on you in defense of Islam. Why? BECAUSE THEY HATE you and all who oppose Islam. Read the book!!
I don't watch or like Fox news. I don't like Bill Riley either. But in this case he was right. It was a group of "good muslims" with the guts to do what thier religeon tells them to do. Freedom of religeon is one of the greatest rights in America. We live by it and are willing to extend it to others and peacfully coexisist, but THEY ARE NOT. The mosque is a vicory trophy. They laugh at us as we slowly open the door for them. When they are strong enough they intend to establish Sharia law, and it is not only OK but is commanded to kill non-believers (you and me) if we oppose them.
Wow uhhh the attackers were Muslim....and they did it in the name of their religion....MUSLIMS attacked us on 9/11. Its a proven fact.
People can live in a fantasy world where this isn't a religious war....all the way up to the day that they find themselves living under sharia law and the books and icons of other religions are banned (as they are in Saudi Arabia, the "center" of the muslim world). There are muslim extremists who are engaged in a religious (Islam) war with other religions and cultures. The truth is sometimes hard to hear and horrifying, but this IS a religious war being carried out by factions of Islam, and it has widespread acceptance as valid in the muslim world. The hosts tantrums won't change that fact.
Just another example of extremist-left wing emotional women who can't intellectually face the simple truth of the matter that O'Reilly"s comments were materially correct. Liberal extremist feminists are no different than extremist Muslims – the only thing they differ on is their morality and what they each hate. They both love the same sole thing – their own kind and the jihad against the notion of objective truth and the common dignity of all humankind. The View needs to be taken off the air for promoting extremism, irrationalism and emotionalism. It gives all women a bad name and uses the most unfit role models imaginable. What a waste of bandwidth.
An A typical democrat (like many of these posts), can't nor will tolerate others opinions/views.
All are drama queens, including Bill, and are all cut from the same cloth.
Bill is correct...truth hurts!!! Joy and Whoopi looked like fools, which surprised me of Whoopi. Joy? Not so much.
I really have to laugh at people trying to make comparisons between Christian violence in the old testament and the CURRENT radical muslim violence of today. Since when do you compare behavior of violence that happened that LONG AGO with a christian culture that has evolved and come out of the dark ages to become a mostly peaceful , non violent movement?
YOU GO BILL GIVE THOSE STUPID B>>>>> SOMETHING TO TALK ABOUT .LIBERAL PUKES
How soon we forget. Star Jones walked off the set on The View when the ladies were interviewing a pimp. I don't recall Barbara scolding Star. Bill loves to push buttons, but you DON'T group a whole religion or a whole group of people based on extremist. I'm glad he apologized for that. It just confirms how he looks at other groups and people that don't look and think like him.
I have actually read all of the above postings, and WOW! I have a great many things I would like to say. O'Reilly is quoted as saying "Muslims" are the ones who attacked and killed us. It is my understanding that those who attacked us were Muslim Extremists NOT the Muslim faith in general. There are extremists everywhere in this country, whether they are Christian, Jew, Protestant, Baptist or Jehovah Witnesses. We as a country need to punish the individual NOT the religion. By saying it is wrong to build a Muslim Center near ground zero is saying that this country is a hypocrisy, not allowing a group of people to express themselves in a manner that is not hurting anyone is a violation of human rights and civil liberties. Go from one extreme if the Center is not allowed to be built then don't allow the KKK and other extremist groups from holding public rallies and inflicting emotional distress on the Minority groups of the U.S.A. I am a Jew, and I am also a pure-blooded American, I believe that O'Reilly said what said and he has the right to voice is opinion no matter how we may feel about it, Whoppi and Behr voiced their opinions by walking out. This is not the first time walk-outs have been done, when you disagree with a speech or lecture or sermon you have the right to walk away.
Muslims did not kill Americans,Al Quaeda did,a terrorist organization,not an entire religion.I think right wingers need to just go back to watching NASCAR.
Uh, Muslims did kill us. What else are they. Africans? Catholics? I didn't know that there are extreme Muslims and regular Muslims. So, are there extreme Bapitists and regular Baptists? It was more than one Muslim who attacked us right. The plural of Muslim is Muslims. If I was murdered by a group of Mexicans, we say Mexicans. Thats not refering to the entire Mexican nation. They just walked off becuase they don't like to hear anybody elses opinion other than their own loud mouth opinion. Thats their job. If I walked out of my job, I would be fired.
Joy doesn't like the facts, so she walks off? What an immature reaction to the truth. I agree they should be able to have their mosque anywhere they want, but Ventura is an idiot. Conspiracy theory? Really? Do steroids deflate your brain as their inflate your muscles? I've never seen the show and if this is an example of the stupidity being presented to the public, I won't bother.
Maybe they should change the name of the show to “Their View"
They should both be reprimanded or fired for their unprofessionalism.
I think they both did this on purpose and was it was just another drama queen moment for them "a ratings thing"
has everyone just forgotten what happened on september 11. bill is not wrong. were not building churches in the middle of baghdad . I believe the women on the view got offended that our golden boy president really isnt that great. The liberal media and ignorant hippies make me sick in this country. Im almost ashamed to say i serve this nation and have known men who have died to give you the right to build that mosque. I am not racist against muslims but you need to understand that ground zero is our history, our tragedy and to build that mosque there is a spit in the face of america.
"Old testament, plenty of violence there" Do people not realize that they are referring back to a time in history which is LONG GONE and the Christian violence they speak of no longer exists??? (Except by a SMALL percentage of nut cases) The extreme muslims are an enormous factor in TODAYS society because they are a huge group and growing....plus they still follow a doctrine of violence that Christians haven't practiced in 2,000 years so QUIT saying Christians are just as violent. Christians (unlike a large group of extreme Muslims) have EVOLVED into a civil religious factor today.........
Why would O'Reilly even want to share a stage with those goofy women? Did he really think those liberal flames were going to treat him respectfully? Hell hath no furry like an offended liberal.
I would rather poke my eyes out with a red hot poker than watch that show-dont care WHO is the guest...
I believe that they should be allowed to build the mosque, however I do believe that it is bad taste. The mere fact that they tracked down this spot, as close to ground zero as possible, is a tacit admission that their religion is associated with the disaster. they recognize that this was an islamic attack (extremists though the attackers may be).
Now, I have no problem with muslims near ground zero. I mean we are all supposed to be united against the extremists, right? So what do the muslims intend to do? Do they intend to use this opportunity to reconcile the problem of extremists in their religion?Do they intend to show that they care about what happened and want to make it right? do they intend try fix the mistakes of their religion's maniacal fundamentalists? no, of course not. by choosing to build a muslim community center, serving their own self interests, it shows that they don't truly care about the tragedy or the victims. This is simply a publicity stunt for this islamic group and they are exploiting the deaths of thousands to attain it. That is what is distasteful. By putting a mosque at ground zero is not a tribute to the victims, it is a testament to islamic self-centership. Its like if a husband buys his wife golf clubs just so he can use them himself. it is just infantile.
And honestly, I do hold islam responsible for 9/11. not each individual obviously but the religion itself. the Quran is packed with violence and hatred. Muhammad himself was a mass murderer. The Quran mandates totalitarian theocracies. Moderate muslims ignore the flaws in their holy book, what goes on in the middle east under sharia, and the jihad that is as strong today as it has ever been. They dont do anything substantial to combat it. instead they indignantly shoehorn themselves into places where they are not wanted, showing now reverence for the victims of their religion. islam has shown me that when it is not violent and utterly inhumane, it is indignant, infantile, insensitive, or, at best, blissful.
I do not respect Islam but I respect its rights. they can legally build the mosque. I wouldnt want to stop them. They have a right to damage their own image into something that is completely unlikable and detestable.
Who really cares what these chickenheads say or do anyway?
I'm simply amazed that anybody cares about this story or anything that those 2 airhead bimbos say or do.
His statement is more true than not. Does anyone remember the video from overseas of Arabs/Muslims dancing in the streets after the World Trade Center Tower came down. Are we to believe that those are not extremist too? There inability to disapprove of the attacks speak volumes of what they believe.
As a teacher of politics and social history and as the mother of two children whose father is Muslim, I am saddened and appalled at the state of our nation. At what point did it become right to condemn an entire people for the acts of a few nut jobs. Those Muslims who commit crimes in the name of Allah do not speak for the majority of Muslims, nor are they truly following the tenets of the Islamic faith. It is against Islam to kill, just as it is against Christianity to commit murder. Nonetheless, in both faiths there are fundamentalists who manipulate and twist their religion to meet their needs. Let us not however, presume that the cruel acts of a few speak for the many. What Bill O'Reilly did was a form of hate-mongering. Since the terrible tragedy of 9/11 it has become the modus operendi to demean and hate Islam. This is no less dangerous, hateful or ignorant an act than acts in the past which discriminated against black children wishing to attend white schools, women who wanted the right to vote and immigrants who desired freedom and opportunity in a new nation. Finally, there is an Islamic quotation that says, "No one becomes someone on his own; No iron becomes a sharp dagger alone." If we truly wish to understand why there are those who wish to do us harm in the world, perhaps we should ask ourselves how America has contributed to the problem. Let us not forget that Osama bin Laden was once our ally in the Afghan war against the Soviets. It was only when America abandoned the Mujahedin after the Iron Curtain fell that he and many others became the enemies of the U.S.
One word. Apathy. Fun huh? you also could probably throw pride in there, because no one will ever admit when they are wrong, even more so considering they can tell lies that agree with the countries agenda and at the very least, feel justified. It's a sickly insane situation, and most are too lazy to see it for what it really is. not to mention, the majority don't read a single book after HS, they sure aren't if they are joining up straight out. Insane. Now lets make them teachers ::rolls eyes::.
I thought the 'view' centered around discussing controversial topics? Walking out on the show is a strong message – agree with me or else I walk out of here. Nice example for how not to behave.
Funny...The lady's actions made this a national news story, which in turn draws a lot of attention to O'Reilly's book....which is exactly what he wants. I'm sure he is very happy with how they reacted.....
Amazing, there are still idiots out there that listen to this guy. He is NEVER right....EVER....I'm simply beside myself that people are so filled with ego and pride that they don't even realize it in the slightest sense. Clueless, and lost. How many times can you be wrong? seriously.....and still have your own show....talk about the need for education in this country.
Of course he was correct, Muslims perpetrated the attacks of 9/11 – but so did humans. It would be more meaningful and constructive to say specifically 'radical Muslims', which distinguishes them from the masses of Muslims who would not perpetrate such horror. True many Muslims who would not be called 'radical' did sympathize with the attack (and even celebrated it) but many more certainly opposed it...
Both sides: he was a guest on their show and they behaved very unprofessionally.
Hes a loud mouth and needs to learn to respect other opinions.
Semantics. Bill has a right to express his opinion on television. it's the right of any American. They claimed to be Muslim (the extremists) so isn't he correct? I may not agree with the tone he used, but he is correct. So why would anyone really give a crap what these two women think anyway. But being that the show is called the "View" I guess that accounts for the real issue here. He was making a statement on their show and they didn't like it. But yet, they can say whatever they want and tear down the image of anyone they want. Go Bill! Having fought for our country in Afghanistan, I appraise him for speaking his mind on TV and on the that ridiculous show.
Not representing the values that I grew up with that's for sure, that being said, not surprised your current position and outlook all things considered. Everyone will be right by mistakes once in a while, how bad is that? he's right by mistake and they love him for it. No wonder your messing around out there lol. Come on.....this guy is an example of the type of people we have to blame for all the idiotic problems we have, way to make sure it continues. That's real patriotic.
as fat as those two hogs are, I'm surprised they didn't trip, fall off the stage and get fractured skulls.
Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar are ridiculous and need to get real.
So O'Reilly can't say something that is correct/legal but Muslims can? What he said is insensitive and broad but not false. The 9/11 hijackers were Muslim. Much like the Islamic center has legal opportunities to build there. Both actions were low on tact.
Facts are facts. Until proven differently Muslims DID attack us on 9/11. How can anyone dispute that? Whether you want to reclassify them as extreme Muslims or not they are still Muslims. As for the ground zero mosque they want to build. Unfortunatly they have the right to do it however it shows the Muslims lack of compassion for the victims of the attack on 9/11 by Muslims. Build the mosque down the street a few more blocks. Americans are getting weaker by the minute.
It is a disgrace for HLN to let Joy Behar walked off the stage. After all O'Rielly could not just walk into the VIEW by himself without invitation from Behar. O'Rielly has never hidden his opinion about Obama. Beside, why do you bother call your program the VIEW?. You should call your program "ONE VIEW ONLY". HLN should ask Joy apologize him in person. Otherwise, HLN should fire her, the way CNN fired Rick Sanchez. After you are under the same company. You must apply the same policy to everyone.
Bill O'Reilly's comment that Muslims killed us should also apply to Christians killed us, too. Timothy McVeigh bombed the Alfred P Murrah building killing Americans. But I think everyone will say that his religion had nothing to do with it. To me he was a bomber and a Christian. So all christians are killers? Stop the stereotyping. People that have views like O'Reilly I do not catagorize as Right Wing Extremists.
Perhaps Whoopi and Joy should be subject to Sharia Law.
I have to say I agree with him there..............nothing like that should be built at ground zero – its like a slap in the face for all the lives that were taken that day.......they need to find another location!!!!!
FIgures, the liberals (especially Behar who makes my skin crawl) can dish it out, but can't take a dose of reality. That's why I quit watching the show...Elizabeth, and mostly Barbara were the only ones wtih a lot of sense. How professional to walk out of a show! At least Whoopi has some incredible talents that make me lean towards forgiving her. Behar's got nothing, and that includes class!
On O'Riley's part that was a provocation, a publicity stunt which went wrong. It was a smart provocation at that for anyone knows that highjackers were muslims. O'Riley touts himself as Harvard graduate, so he cannot be an idiot. Therefore, it would have been counterproductive to water down the outrageousness of what he had said with a discussion of subtleties, which he knows very well. Perhaps, this discussion of subtleties was a script that he brought with him on the view. It blew in his face, however. Kudos to Goldberg and Behar!
Let's turn the tables. Let's say all the guys that crashed the plane were Christians, doing it in the name of Christianity. The left leaning liberal media would have had NO PROBLEM saying that it was Christians that caused 9/11. And the crazy clucking hens on the View would have been leading the way. Bill O'Reilly can be rude and abrasive (as rude as some of the comments Joy Behar has made on TV? No way) but he pretty much tells it like it is and many on the left find the truth hard to take.
Suddenly, I have a lot more respect for "The View".
If the muslim cultural center is wrong, then why are "we" building so close to native american land after "we" killed so many of them?
These two excuses of women are out of their "gourd." Since when only their opinion counts?! Give me a break!
One good thing did come out of this experience: The View's audience saw these two moronic idiots for what they really are.
Wow! And these are the same two women that kiss President NObama's butt whenever he appears on this moronic show. Barbara Walters used to be a respected journalist/TV host. Is she loosing her marbles?
America, this is double standard at its best.
I'm a little surprised that he was even invited on this show. I don't know if he is even capable of speaking the truth, let alone speaking intelligently about any issue that has 2 sides! I give the ladies a LOT of credit for their restraint. I'd have used the opportunity to tell him how horrifically he consistently embarrasses himself, what a disservice he does to all of his viewers by spewing garbage and hate, and how he should really just be quiet!
Women overreacting and throwing temper tantrums? This is news?
Not all Muslims attacked us. This country was founded on religious freedom. We should respect that.
I wouldn't have walked off......I would have simply said three words: Alwaleed bin Talal.
Joy is such a fat fuuuugly dumb c unt. Who cares what that ancient old hag thinks. LOL
Joy Behar is an idiot.
They should've just shouted him down like O Pinhead does on his joke of a show.
Good for Bill O'Reilly ; probably the first time in years that those old broads got wet.
O'Really knows exactly what he"s doing, its what he's paid to do. It's similar to the fact that, during the 2008 election season, Fox – including O'Really – used Obama's middle name 300% more often than any other news outlet.
Acting like openly vocal and aggressive people like O'Really aren't operating on something as simple as bigotry is ignorant.
The question isn't whether O'Really knows what he was saying, the question is why so many in this country support a message and pathway to hate.
As someone who lost 2 ppl in the World Trade Center Towers I feel I can speak. My husband died in Tower # 1 and my step-daughter who was just about to begin college died when #2 collapsed. Add the grief and pain that comes w loving 2 loved ones + countless neighbors and friends from my husbands office I think the mosque is a terrible idea. I don't care if the build one, but by showing respect to the place where I buried my husband and stepdaughter, would, in my opinion, change the views of many. I did not get their bodies returned to me for a proper burial. The site of the towers is where I go to mourn and remember them. I'm no longer angry but I fear I will become angry again if I'm forced to acknowledge a mosque so close to the final resting place of my loved ones.
As for Whoopi and Joy we live in a democratic country and we just can't walk away when we don't like what the other is going to say as in the case of O'Riely. By coming back "because you apologized" makes them sound like 3rd graders on the playground. They need to grow up.
O'Reilly is great lol! Tho Walters was right about demeaning a whole religion
They're ALL a bunch of pinheads...
Hey Deb....the only thing that needs to go on the VIEW are the four old hags that think the world is theirs and no one can disagree with them. They have nothing important to say...never have never will!
Pleny of Muslims are fighting WITH us in this war on terror.
In fact, the successes we have had so far would NOT have been realized without the support of the primarily Muslim countries that support us.
Frankly, Bill Orielly is no different than any talking head of any extremist group. They are exactly the same – so I hate them all (extremists of all religions/kinds), exactly the same.
The women on this show demean all women in this country. Their combined IQs are only exceeded by their combined shoe sizes.
Yeah, right. Joyless Behar takes every opportunity she can to defame and make fun of the Catholic faith and she throws a tantrum over O'Reily. Sounds staged to me.
It is amusing to read everyone's comments from both sides of the fence. Let me help both sides out for a second here. If your opinion is based on what you learned on the View or on Fox News your clueless. Both show are designed to entertain and not educate. Howard Stern is a radio shock jock. Both these shows accomplish the same thing in different ways. Fox does it to appeal to the strong right wing and gains ratings by enraging the lefts of centre. The view is just a nice safe everyone can get along, we need to stop antagonizing everyone etc. Which ticks of the right wing and makes the supports of the show get very defensive. Don't attack what I believe in! How dare you. Congrats you have all accomplished nothing. Now the act of stupidity we saw today does not take away from the fact that there is an issue. A mosque being built at the site of the 9/11 attacks is an insult for many reasons. If the Muslim community recognizes that the terrorist are Muslim as well as Terrorists it is massively disrespectful to the United States to pursue a mosque at the site. If you want the US and the rest of the world to respect you as a faith. Stop putting us into impossible positions. The Bill of Rights protects the rights to have a religious structure on that site but that does not mean it advances the understanding and the growth of that particular faith. It does the opposite. It creates battle lines. If the Temple Mount were to be destroyed in Jeruselem by Christian extremists dont you think the Islamic world would be a tad bit protective of that site. Do you think they would allow the construction of a church??? I think not. Was the world trade centre a religious site, no, but it does represent the very foundation of America. Why??? The terrorists made it that way by attacking it twice. To the terrorist the World Trade Centre represented the evil of America. It is time for the Muslims of the world to take some ownership of the attack and respect the fact that the World Trade Center site is as holy and important to our country as the Temple Mount or the Wall or the Vatican. Sorry
Alan, you have a very well thought out answer for why the mosque should not be built close to Ground Zero and I agree with you.
Taking Bill O'Rielly seriously is like watching Professional Wrestling and believing it is real!
joy behar is the most hypocritical piece of crap that there is but bill o reily is also a fake
I hate to break it to Larry the anti-intellectual, but "LIBERAL" is not a dirty, pejorative name to call someone. It is actually a compliment.
Liberal, by definition, means "favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible, especially as guaranteed by law and secured by governmental protection of civil liberties OR favoring or permitting freedom of action, especially with respect to matters of personal belief or expression."
I would hope that every person in the United States is LIBERAL by these definitions, but some prefer only to be reactionary, negative, and conservative to the point of ridiculousness.
The left is vile. Time to divide this country in two. No interest in reconciliation
Whoopi is a man. His real name is Herman Limone
whoopie is a man
O'Reilly is a buffoon. But Whoopi and Joy are a joke. What he stated was a fact. To take such offense at a simple factual statement is stupid and probably grandstanding. Why anyone would watch this show is beyond me.
So Bill O'Reilly acted and spoke just like Bill O'Reilly always does, and Woopie had a PC hissy fit, just as Whoopie is paid to do, and Joy (quelle suprise!) sided with her. This is a story? Hissy fits are exactly what the show's producers were hoping for when they sat the abrasive conservative O'Reilly between those liberal democrats. It makes for good television. And O'Reilly has gotten major press coverage, by coincidence, for his little book. I didn't even know he had a new one out until I read about this stunt - and a stunt it is. He baited those women, and they gladly took the bait. It's all a big nothing.
Anyone with half a brain knows that 911 was an inside job. But even if Muslims were behind it, banning Mosques at ground zero would be just as goofy as banning churches in Wisconsin, just because Jeffrey Dahmer was a Christian.
I am sorry, but he was stating a fact not mention expressing an opinion many Americans have over the location of this mosque. They were in fact muslims who attacked the US on 9/11. They did it in the name of Allah. Saying "extremists" does not change that...
Pretending that Mr. O'Reilly and others of his ilk are serious journalists with something meaningful to contribute is the real problem here. We might just as well ask Bozo the Clown for his opinion on economic policy or inquire of a goldfish how to achieve lasting peace in the Middle East.
Bill O'Reilly for President! He understands the American people. Narrowminded pinheads such as Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg are so far "off" the beaten path–they in fact are the extremists. This won't hurt Billl O'Reilly at all because nobody seriously watches "The View."
Glenn and Larry and Omaba and Osama...look alikes!
The two cutns should have kept walking.
He said to put Beck and Larry one of the 3 Stooges...well put Prea Omaba next to Bro Osama...and you have father and son!@!
He said to put Beck and Larry one of the 3 Stooges...well put Omaba next to Osama...and you have father and son!@!
Old Testament a thing of the past? Let me see how many people want to live by the 10 Commandments today and get all touchy if you say "No thank you, iI'd rather not" well...it's a considerable sum.
Anyway I'd have walked off the show and not come back. Then again, I wouldn't have invited him. I learned long ago not to let barnyard animals in the house.
This is what I find ironic. We were attacked by extremists who happened to be Muslim. Now Islam is being pigeonholed by a few defenders of Christianity who sound exactly like extremists. They also get into politics saying that if you aren't right wing like they are, you have to be left wing and therefore are a terrible person. Isn't this black & white, concrete, apocalyptic view with the religion of others, religion of themselves and politics not the pot calling the kettle black? If you've heard the words "black & white, concrete and apocalyptic" together then someone was describing what are called thinking errors. The lack of frontal lobe activity here by those leaving comments truly scares me. They probably don't believe in evolution, dinosaurs or the big bang either but belief that the flying spaghetti monster who is on their side is somehow perfectly logical.
you know what, i'm sorry but technically he was right...the terrorists who carried out the 9/11 attacks were muslims. and building a mosque or muslim center or whatever it is, is simply not prudent or sensitive. i know o'reilly is kind of a blow-hard, but sometimes there's some logic and truth behind what he's saying. have we forgotten that we're at war with muslims in afghanistan and iraq?
Bill O'Reilly was wrong and why the hack did they have him on the show.....
This should be filed under "What did you think was going to happen?" of the day.
Why is it so important that they be referred to as extremists? I don't recall anyone in the media calling the Westboro Baptists "extremist Christians."
whoopi and joy are totally bangin each other
I think the Ladies were looking for a "I gotcha moment" to make a statement. Bill should have said extremist Muslims, but he was factual in that it was Muslims who flew those planes imnto the Towers. The Mosque is being placed near ground zero as a statement, whether people want to admit it or not. Some people in the Muslim world as well as the West will see it as a trophy of triumph.
you have LOVE ignorant radical liberals. he said muslims attacked us=TRUE statement. he didn't say ALL muslims attacked us and OMG he diidn't clarify muslim extremists. Liberals only believe in free speech if you agree with them otherwise they call it "hate-speech". O'reilly has a higher IQ than whoopi and joy combined. Look at all you little ignorant sheep liberals on here.LOL O'reilly NEVER said they couldn't build, he said it's insensitive! 70% of the nation thinks it's not right. and jesse ventura? fox won't have you on because you're an uneducated wrestler who thinks 911 was an inside job.LOL
Define 'radical liberal'.
FAUX News is populated by uneducated corporate lackeys. The reason why they won't have Mr. Ventura on is because they can't allow people to hear an intelligent person argue for the non-government approved view.
So much for your 'free speech'. Just keep whining about Behar and the rest.
Well. dont you get it? he has to make general comments, or else he would NEVER get it right. Funny you think others aren't smart because of a simple minded cut and dry comment like "Muslims did it". Derka Derr. Of course SOME Muslims did it, but guess what? guess who caused the worlds problems!!! Christians did it!!! yayyy seriously who is dumb here? hmm....let me think myself out of a paperbag real quick. People do not understand in 2010 that anyone that reads, researches, or has been there done that, will never listen to this dumbed down uneducated view on the world. Next.
Liberals place way too much faith that the Islamic religion is peaceful. Read the Koran. Read accompanying material regarding the history mentioned in the Koran... and THEN state your opinion.
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Go Jesse Ventura. If people would do their research and stop listening to everything the lying corporate puppet media and murderous government says, they would see that it's not logical that a handful of Muslim fanatics who could barely fly small single-engine aircraft foiled the nation's air defense system and expertly guided not one, but two commercial aircraft into the WTC Towers in lower Manhatten. Never mind the fact that the one stuck last (the South Tower) is the one that collapsed first, even though most of the jet fuel exploded outside of the building. Remember the massive fireball? Collapsed at free fall speed, structural grade steel turning into fine dust/vaporizing in less than a second...Get the picture? It's time to demand answers for these things.
First off, I am not a Bill O'Reilly fan at all so I was not watching this episode, but after watching the video and reading the article, KUDOS to Whoopi and Joy for walking away from that bullcrap and Barbara needs to learn to stand by her team not knock them for their reactions. No one cursed at him or called him names they Joy just stood up and said she did not want to be around or a part of the crap he was spewing and Whoopi agreed, KUDOS for you ladies for having a backbone and making a decision for yourself and not following along with the network, boooo Barbara
I do hope they build there because the first act after completion should be a slaughtered pig on the door step.
@Matt "Some people just love to find a way to be offended." Truer words have never been spoken.
you gotta really suck ball to walk out when your the host. nicely done you hairy men hosts of the view
Would expect such unprofessionalism from Joy and Whoppi to walk off because of a guest's comments they don't agree with. They are both so narrow minded they should have kept walking and not come back(ever). Also to those discussing killing in the New Testament need to read Revealtions lots of death and killing big battle in the end. Battles usually involve killing.
"Christians killed us in Oklahoma" is a similar pinhead statement, yet there is a statue of Jesus Wept on the Memorial site itself. No one has complained about that. Ever.
I'm waiting for Bill O'Reilly to walk off the set, never to return.
"Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.” Koran 2:191
“Make war on the infidels living in your neighborhood.” Koran 9:123
“When opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you catch them.” Koran 9:5
“Any religion other than Islam is not acceptable.” Koran 3:85
“The Jews and the Christians are perverts; fight them.”... Koran 9:30
“Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam” Koran 5:33
“Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water; melt their skin and bellies.” Koran 22:19
“The unbelievers are stupid; urge the Muslims to fight them.” Koran 8:65
“Muslims must not take the infidels as friends.” Koran 3:28
“Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Qur’an.” Koran 8:12
“Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels.” Koran 8:60
ANYONE ELSE WANT TO DISCUSS THE PEACFUL MUSLIM RELIGION?..
Go away.
These two women should be gratefull that they could engage in a conversation and discussion in a middle East country women are second class citizens not allowed to discuss anything in public or privately and more less with a male. If they didnot agree with O'Reilly opinion they should had said so and express theirs but they acted uncivilize and decided to walk out. One used profanities (Whoppy) showing no respect for the audience .Some People might think that the way they acted they might had been under the influence of some sustance or drug.Or where afraid to enter in a discussion because with O'reilly because his intelligence was superior to theirs
First of all I can't stand BO, he's a moron. Secondly I feel that it is an inappropriate place to build a Muslim mosque, or community center or what have you. I don't think people are mad at the fact that they are building a Muslim community center in NYC but I think its the location. You have all of NYC to build a Mosque and Muslim community center, why do they have to build it near the WTC, where yes Muslim "extremists" killed thousands of Americans of all races. Thats just it though, its not about race its about respect. Many political people, NYC firemen, and others who lost people in 9/11 simply said we don't care how or where you practice your religion, but respectfully, find another area in the city to do it. I don't find that racist at all. Why people make it into a "race" thing i'll never understand. BO's comment was stupid though.
All The View is anymore is an hour of self-promotion and promotions of shows on ABC. Only one view is accepted on the show, the liberal views of Whoopie and Joy. This was just a stunt to boost their sagging ratings. So what? Who cares?
Moms killed us, dads killed us, Christians killed us, Jews killed us, Italians killed us, veterans are particularly good at killing us. Even people upset about taxes killed us. Should we watch out for the Tea Party now? I mean, those anti-tax zealots are all the same right? Or maybe we should dissolve the military so we don't have to worry about another bombing in Oklahoma City or a sniper attack in DC. In fact, I find it patently offensive that members of the Oklahoma National Guard gathered in Oklahoma City to remember the victims. Oh wait ... Since when did bias, religious-intolerance and stupidity become politically correct again in the United States?
It is time for decent Americans to stand up for hate mongers such as O'Reilly and his cronies at Fox news.
It is ironic that so many people continue to put the hosts of The View down (and know so much about them – which could only mean that you continue to watch the show) and yet defend freedom of speech. Don't know why they (The View) would even consider inviting one of the worst fear mongering idiot on the planet on this show...these people (Beck, Palin, O'Reilly, etc) are getting rich and having a great future telling all the dumbest Americans that they have no future...
Larry hit the nail on the head and the post refuting him only proves it all the more. While Americans can agree that terrorists and those that support them are "extremists". I think most people who disagree so vehemently with Bill O'R assume that extremists mean the few in the fringe. This is just factually not true about Islam. It is why this is such a divisive issue. I understand that there are millions of peaceful muslims but the terrorists are supported, overtly, covertly, monetarily and logistically by some of the most significant muslim leaders AND GOVERNMENTS in the middle east. They are not a fringe group of radicals. That makes this very difficult, because while it is true that they do not represent ALL muslims, they are shamefully but undeniable supported by some of the significant power brokers of the middle east. So in some sense it was "Muslims", because a large faction of the religion IS ok with the violence they inflict. They believe we brought it on ourselves and it is OK that it is happening.
I would like to point out that some people have a misconception about the muslim population as a whole. I lived in the middle east and have many muslim friends. That being said the extremists are NOT on the fringe of islam NOR are they the majority. Fringe denotes a small percentage while what we would classify as extremest would probably account for close to 20% of the world wide islamic population. With nations such as Iran, Syria, Somalia and Palestine all having close to 95% extremism and nations such as Egypt, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Libya all having close to 50% extremism while nations such as Saudi Arabia, UAE, Oman, Yemen, Lebanon and Qatar are closer to 33% extremism it is NOT hard to see that a large percentage of the islamic world is uneducated and filled with hate. I say uneducated since most of the extremists lack critical thinking and a large portion even lack the ability to read their own language. I say filled with hate since their actions speak loudly on their own. Finally I would like to say that most muslims in the western world and specifically North America are peaceful and law bidding citizens. The western islamic world however is not proclaiming loud enough that the extremists are wrong and are not turning in everyone they think may be an extremists. Who can blame them however since most of them are related some how such as 2nd cousin, etc. Most people in the world have trouble turning in or condemning family members including distant relatives. That lack of EXTREME and LOUD out cry by the western islamic population is what causes most (last count was over 70%) of the US citizens to think that islam as a whole has declared war on us.
I know we live in Foo Foo land, but please consider most do not. Consider that there are three groups of Muslim thought: 1: Those who were saddened by 9/11, but had mixed feeling because in their gut they felt that the United States (not Americans) still DESERVED it. 2: Those who where thrilled that 9/11 was perpetrated because they felt the United States AND Americans DESERVED it. 3: Those where were scared that it would impact them, but felt in their heart that the United States still DESERVED it. Due to the debate on the New York Mosque/Cultural Center proposal- all three groups consider the completion of the project, right or wrong, a victory. You as an American do not have to consider it a loss, I find meditation helps and denial works too.
All I can say is creaping Sharia. This country needs to stop listening to both these idiots (D & R's) and start reading about what Islam literally is (and has been) saying and formulate your own opinion... Just look at London.
Bill WHO !
I didn't see The View. I did see the Towers destroyed and all those people die. Someday someone will say it never happened, just like the Holocaust didn't happen. All of this in the name of political correctness. I saw the video of Muslims all over the world celebrating the fall of the Twin Towers. I never saw any remorse or shame from any of these muslim countries. Muslims always build a mosque at the site of their victories. There is one on the Temple Mount in Jerusalem and there are others. This is how they mark their territory. There is not a Muslim in the world that doesn't recognize the true significance of this center. Only Americans who are blinded by their high minded political correctness. Does anyone remember the Emperor's New Clothes? Where are the synegogues in Mecca? Wake up before it is too late.
When a Christian extremist kills people in a terrorist attack, will you same people defending Bill O'Reilly protest the construction of a church anywhere near the site of the attack? Will it be ok to generalize and say, "Christians killed us?" Just curious.
The God I serve, knew this before he created the heavens and the earth. The story has already been written. He knows the end. We are in the end times of this world we live in. He is coming again to judge the good and wicked. We ALL have our judgement day ahead of us. The world we live in is dying. It is a sick world. Just look at the news. Killings, abductions, earthquakes, hurricanes, etc.....Look at the world. Every country. We as a human race...it's truly sad. Everyone is not going to agree either way. Whatever way you choose, choose it. No one can knock you or say anything to you for that.
Jesse the Body? Really? For smart commentary?!?! Bwahahahahaha!!!
I don't blame them, Bill O' Reilly is a freakin idiot. It sickens me to hear this crap! He's using his rhetoric and position of power to incite fear and hatred, i mean god look at most of the posts on this article! "The muslims are going to take over America," "soon we'll all be reading the Quran and living under Sharia Law." It's just so ridiculous that people actually believe this, and why? Because of the constant stream of s&*t spewing out of the mouths of people like O' Reilly and Glenn Beck!
It is a fact that the attackers were Muslim. And they did not just "happen to be Muslim", as others have commented - their faith was central to the reason they attacked, even if that was completely at odds with the way most Muslims understand and live that faith.
The comment is offensive, but not because it says "Muslims" perpetrated the attack. It is offensive because it says they "killed us". Whom exactly? Certainly not O'Reilly. Americans? People of many nationalities were among the victims. It implies that Muslims are not "us", whatever that means, even though many Americans are Muslims and many died on 9/11.
"Muslims killed 3,000 people on 9/11" is a statement of fact, even if the message it conveys could be misconstrued. On the other hand, "Mulims killed us on 9/11" is an offensive and inappropriate statement.
Sad day for the american people if they build a Mosque there
Im impressed they took objection so clearly and can separate the people and what they did from what they said it meant
Who cares if a couple of liberal morons walked off the stage. Bill O'Reilly was totally right. It's past time for the liberal lemmings to wake up and see the truth and quit defending our enemy. Just makes them look like the traitors they truly are.
I blame them for walking off. They should have stayed and slapped the crap out of O'Reilly just for showing up to opine and bloviate.
I am really sick and tired and the damn feminism in this country, STFU AND GTFO. Straight men will always continue to rule the planet, well give you left overs...now stop crying. Go cook or something.
I work with two Muslim young men and we frequently discuss Islam and Christianity and the differences and similarities. I have learned that they believe the Old Testament and the 10 commandments are scripture. We have also agreed that it is a powerless God that would require mortals to kill those that "sin" and that it is men that pervert their religion for purposes of control and power not the religion. That said I would not have any objection to the ground zero mosque/Islamic center were it not for the name of Cordoba House or Cordoba initiative chosen by the Imam promoting it.
It is a thinly veiled reference to the Cordoba mosque in Spain. Historically the Cordoba mosque was build on the site of a Christian cathedral as a symbol of the defeat of Christianity by Islam after the Muslims successfully invaded Spain. One can justifiably make the assumption then that the Imam selected the site and the name as a symbol of the triumph of Islam over the U.S. by the 9/11 terrorists. This to me makes the selection of ground zero exceedingly unacceptable to me. My Muslim friends couldn't understand why so many Americans were opposed to it until I explained the historical context of the Cordoba mosque and the name chosen for the new mosque. After that they said "No wonder people are angry. The mosque should not be built there. It is very insensitive."
So many comments I couldn't read them all. Hope someone reads this! OK, you know this morning, I almost stepped on O' Reilly in my yard. Seems someone didn't clean up after their dog. Is O'Reilly Catholic? Hitler was. Most of his SS were Catholic or Lutheran. Christians! Muslims! Koran, Bible...God, what a mess! I'm just glad that the God I pray to is powerful enough to do his own killing! He's never needed my help! "Imagine."
I'm reading this and all I can say is....RIGHT? He doesn't need us to do anything. He is the beginning and the end. The Alpha and Omega.
'We have a right to hate muslims! They began it!'
Oh really? Are our history classes so underfunded that people think history begins less than 10 years ago? Here are some things about the middle east you skipped over that you may want to look up: Reagan's funding of the Taliban, British and American colonialism in the ME and the fight over the Suez Canal, the Crusades, the conquest of arabic lands by the Roman empire. (which, at the time of Muhammad has already adapted and enforced Christianity as its state religion)
History goes back far longer than 10 years, people, as much as you like to cherry pick only the parts that support your bigotry!
It's just a ploy to get ratings for both shows. This will just galvanize fans of these entertainers, but it's meaningless. This is an old controversy. It's just a publicity stunt.
I don't understand the liberal position of being a defender of muslims (radical or not) when they are so quick to denounce other Christians & Jews.
The other comment I would make is that you continually hear the liberals say that the Tea Party supporters are racists. They are quick to condemn a whole movement over a few individuals.Doesn't seem much different than what Bill said.
Bill O'Reilly is not stupid. He said what he said deliberately to provoke the hosts. I don't think their walking off is any less appropriate than Bill O'Reilly's constant bullying of his own show's guests, overshouting them, cutting them off, calling them names.
As for condemning an entire religion because of a few, somehow I don't see the outrage over the building of synagouges in Jerusalem, right near where jews of the Old Testament murdered Christ.
Anti-semitic? You betcha! That kind of rationalization resulted in the millenia of persecution of the jews by Christians. It's the lesson we should have learned by now! You can't condemn an entire religion based on the actions of a few! It is as hateful as anti-semitism!
Bill O pushes people's buttons by saying annoying, outrageous, obnoxious things, over the top stuff. He comes out swinging, that's his freaking style. Everybody knows this, at least all those that live on planet earth. So why didn't Whoopi and Joy see this coming?
The terrorists killed a bunch of bankers, and then we went over to Iraq and Afghanistan and killed a bunch of Muslims. I think we are even, on paper we came out on top, but they started it.
I just love the Bush cracks and lets feel sorry for Obama because he came into the White House a mess... Let's see, Bush comes in at the onset of a financial disaster (on Bill C's watch mind you). All sorts of companies cooking books. If you don't remember this or want to argue this fact, look up the dow averages just before the end of 1999. Better yet, take a peek at your 401K. You probably have the same amount in there today as you had 10 years ago. If that isn't enough, 9 months into his presidency, 9/11. That effected EVERYONE... I REPEAT EVERYONE. People lost loved ones, others lost jobs. It put a ripple into this nation and economy that will be felt long after Obama is gone and 2 or 3 more presidents take their oath.
So, if you want to us to feel sorry for Obama and the mess he inherited (which of course he reminds everyone of every chance he gets) then do the same for Bush. Call him an idiot or what you will, but if your really open minded and logical... you will see my point. If you don't, well then so be it.
Do they have the right to build a mosque (wether or not it is part of a cultural center or not) near ground zero: In the USA, yes, they do.
However, having the RIGHT to do something is not the same thing as having the WISDOM to do the right thing. If the developer (who is a muslim born and raised in New York) would simply consent to build the center a few blocks further away, it would be a non-issue. That would be the WISE, the compassionate move.
Most crimes in America are committed by Christians. Ban Christianity!
Oh Please, Jesse Ventura? Is that the best they can come up with? Pinheads.
President Bush and his cronies killed us. Our own Government went about 9-11 as a way to get into Iraq. President Bush was a bigger Terrorist than Saddam Hussein was to his own people, killing 100's of 1000's of innocent Iraqis.
I think the solution to this whole mosque issue is rather simple. If a mosque is going to be build on ground zero, then why not build other religious facilities by or near this particular mosque on ground zero? Let’s for example, built a Jewish worship center next to this mosque. And then we can erect a Christian Church on the other side of the mosque. And let’s not forget the Hindu and Buddhist temples either. In order words, we would have a religious center. Honoring all the major faiths in this great country call America.
By placing only this mosque at ground zero implies we are putting the muslins in a stage higher than other religious faiths. And I do not know the exact data of who died on that tragic day on 9/11/01. But I am certainly sure less than 5% of the falling heroes were of the muslin faith.
Ok, so I have been a huge fan of Whoopi's – I never agreed with much she had to say – but I always respected that she was able to hear other people's point of view even if she had a 180 view – today, I was crushed to see her walk off – when have you ever seen that before? It's obvious that it was a huge mistake – i hope she apologizes tomorrow. I am not a fan of Bill's but he deserved better than that.
When O'Rielly said what he said, why didn't Whoopi ask him what he meant? Is this what it has come to in America? we don't ask for clarification, we just walk out?
Steeve-o, You better keep reading as you totally missed that one. Damned does not even begin to suggest the idea that we are to hurt others if they don't believe. You know exactly what it means. It is about eternal salvation and judgement day.
Boy, you are really stretching far for this one aren't you.
Maybe you should quote: "Thou shalt not kill" it appears 7 times in the bible... both old and new.
Religion is the opposite of peace.
Government is the opposite of freedom.
Christians have killed Americans too (Timothy McVeigh, for instance). So, using O'Reilly's logic, it should be insensitive to build a christian church near the federal building in Oklahoma. If it is somehow different, then why?
Can't you people get your facts straight? McVeigh was an avowed agnostic. He wrote that himself in his own manifesto. Not a Christian.
To say that Muslims attacked and killed people at the WTC is the same as saying that Catholics and Protestants attacked and killed people in Northern Ireland, Christians attacked and killed Native Americans, and that Christians attacked and killed Muslims during the Crusades.
What a colossal lack of understanding!
When do we stop placing the blame on just one group of people and understand that it takes two to make a war!!!!!
This whole mess began because we stuck our nose in places and issues without the basic understanding of what we're doing and why.
It would be nice if these if these people who are so upset by the (yes, very general statement Bill made) would get this fired up at people on the left who do the exact same thing. For instance, Michael Moore. He said Bush and other key people knew 9/11 was going to happen and didn't stop it. For what possible reason would we do that? Or my favorite, that the war is just for Oil. You know how much oil you can buy versus the cost of running a war? It is time people stop watching, listening or reading this... because it is total crap. We lost the ability to think for ourselves and rely instead on Whoopi to tell us how to feel. Seriously, Whoopi? Bill O is nothing but a thinner, right leaning version of Michael Moore. He does not represent those of us who call ourselves conservatives, but Whoopi, being so well educated on foreign policy and matters of such complexity, please don't leave your faithful hanging like that. You can't just get up and walk away... who will tell us what to think?
Come on.. crack open a book or search your heart for right and wrong. Your voice in washington is about what you think. If your looking to washed up celebrities to help you find your way, your making a big mistake. What do they have in common with the average joe citizen? Do you think whoopi HAS to work everyday, or Tom Cruise or any other celebrity? Do you think they know what it is like to get up and go to work and support a family and make ends meet. No! If their latte is too hot, they have a meltdown.... They have no more connection with the american people then our representatives in washington. Seeking or listening to anything they say ... well pretty much anything... is a total waste of time.
1. 9/11 was planned and executed by Islamic extremist groups in the name of Islam–an intricate scheme by those who were trained to pretend friendship and solidarity with Americans and our American culture–beware wolves in lambs clothing, the Trojan horse, or even the lesson learned in Little Red Riding Hood.
2. Timothy McVeigh, while born a Christian, and attending church as a young person, became an Agnostic as an adult. McVeigh was not motivated by any religion–and what he did was not planned and executed in the name of any religion.
"The Guardian reported that McVeigh wrote a letter to them claiming to be an agnostic and that he did not believe in a hell. The McVeigh Tapes" Rachel Maddow Show, aired April 19, 2010 and Julian Borger,"McVeigh faces day of reckoning: Special report: Timothy McVeigh,", The Guardian Online, June 11, 2001 from Wikipedia."
McVeigh once said that he believed the universe was guided by natural law, energized by some universal higher power that showed each person right from wrong if they paid attention to what was going on inside them. He had also said, "Science is my religion." Michel, Lou and Herbeck, Dan. American Terrorist. pp. 142–143.
3. McVeigh's motivation was his prolifically and publicly expressed anti-US government hatred. He had no hidden agenda, created no false cover, and did not pretend to be anything but anti-US government. While he blamed the government on the deaths that occurred at Waco and Ruby Ridge, it was the Gulf War –in which he himself served and given a Bronze Star–that became the ultimate motivation in his mind.
" In 1998, while in prison, McVeigh wrote an essay that criticized US foreign policy towards Iraq as being hypocritical:
The administration has said that Iraq has no right to stockpile chemical or biological weapons (“weapons of mass destruction”) – mainly because they have used them in the past.
Well, if that’s the standard by which these matters are decided, then the U.S. is the nation that set the precedent. The U.S. has stockpiled these same weapons (and more) for over 40 years. The U.S. claims that this was done for deterrent purposes during the “Cold War” with the Soviet Union. Why, then is it invalid for Iraq to claim the same reason (deterrence) — with respect to Iraq’s (real) war with and the continued threat of, its neighbor Iran?
If Saddam is such a demon and people are calling for war crimes charges and trials against him and his nation, why do we not hear the same cry for blood directed at those responsible for even greater amounts of “mass destruction” — like those responsible and involved in dropping bombs on the cities mentioned above.
The truth is, the U.S. has set the standard when it comes to the stockpiling and use of weapons of mass destruction. An Essay by Timothy McVeigh". Outpost of Freedom. March 1998
McVeigh had contemplated suicide on many occasions. Anticipating that he would probably be caught and executed, he referred to the bombing as "state-assisted suicide".An Essay by Timothy McVeigh". Outpost of Freedom. March 1998. http://www.outpost-of-freedom.com/mcveigh/okcaug98.htm.
Terrorist Extremists who claim to be Muslim attacked us on 9/11. In my view, no God fearing individual would do what they did. Those are the acts of insanity. I have many Muslim friends that were absolutely horrified at the events of 9/11 and their most frequent question was this "How can anyone claim to Love and Follow Allah and do this?".
Next.. This country was founded on the principles of Freedom of Religion. As well as Freedom from Religious persecution. This Islamic center is not on ground zero. It is in fact several blocks away. I don't see where anyone can say building something to help educate people in a community, and serve people in a community is wrong.
Would there be objections if someone wanted to build a Christian church in that building? Or a Buddhist Temple? How about a Church of Scientology? No? Then the truth is, the reason you are objecting is because you are a Bigot and have fallen for the fear and hate mongering of a religion, because a few psychopaths use it as an excuse to murder people they hate because they are driven by their hatreds and use any excuse to make the wrong they are doing 'right' in their own eyes.
So now you do the same thing.
I think that is pretty pathetic.
Most of you must not be Manhattan residents! To be honest the last 9 years worth of discussion is ridiculous, none of you have any say if you were not affected directly. It's laughable when I hear some idiot from a town of 300 say he/she is scare they will get bombed...wake up...you people are not that important. As to the topic here....as usual, organized religion is the root cause....Die in the name of Allah...Die in the name of Jesus...most people in the US are clueless about the world beyond what their TV tells them and then they cling on to some radical statement made by a fame loving politician or personality as their mantra. Wake up and shut up...cause your knowledge of the situation and the world are subpar.
Goldberg and Behar have a spine and probably more cojones than the compost worms at Faux News. Good for them! Nothing wrong with being American, as these ladies did.
Whoopi and Joy, you 2 can dish it out but just can't take it. Somebody disagrees and you 2 just lose it. You both reacted unprofessionally and shouldn't be expressing opinions when you can't engage in the debate. You've actually demonstrated, on national television, the same close mindedness that you accuse your opponents of having. Too add to it, you insist on continuing the topic by engaging in a back biting conversation about Bill O'Reilly on your show. All your viewers are clearly aware of your dislike for him....so why continue? Feeling a little foolish....maybe regrets for not handling yourself better? So shut up about it. Don't continue to justify your less than appropriate reaction on The View today with Jesse Ventura on your show.
If Bill O'Reilly can say that all Muslims are responsible for 9/11 I think it's safe to say that all Republicans are idiots who don't have 2 IQ points to rub together between any of them. It's very easy for Republicans to keep the fear alive because their base are a bunch of sheep who cannot think critically. Most of these people are inbred hicks (hence the ad in West Virginia). If we want to get anything done in this country we need to cut these people out of the election process. If you aren't smart enough to graduate high school then your opinion shouldn't count.
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This really isnt about a mosque. Its about politics. Talking heads, and politicians (mainly right wing), love this issue and they themselves personally could careless. They only pretend that its important to them, only to make and cause division. Obamma bashing is all it is. If these right wing politicians really cared, then why deny health care to the thoudands of rescue workers? and they are still alive!
O’Reilly’s language was deliberately incendiary and meant to be provocative because that’s what he does. Unfortunately, he feels, and it has been proven, that such remarks bring him high ratings and more fans. These people may be ignorant, crazy or misguided; nonetheless, this is what works. It is easier to appeal to the lowest common denominator. If one went on the air and spoke intelligently, there would fewer listeners. I suppose it has become much easier to listen to garbage, since so many people have been eating garbage for too long.
If you’re not sure that O'Reilly meant to slight Muslims, consider this. When Charles Manson and his followers butchered Sharon Tate et al, no one on any report anywhere referred to them as the “Christian” murderers. In fact, no one is ever referred to as Christian when accused of crimes. And by the way, he did say that “we are at war with Muslims.” Even when we were at war with Hitler, we referred to him as a Nazi and as many terrible names as could be thought up, but never as a Christian, despite his working on the “Jewish” solution. O’Reilly inserting Muslim rather than terrorist and/or extremist is continuing his self-appointed mission of making “Muslim” a bad word
O'Reilly knew exactly HOW he said what he did. He phrased it like that on purpose. He wasn't there to promote his book, he was there to promote intolerance. To sort of rub salt in it when people were starting to calm down and not be so upset. His sole purpose for appearing on daytime TV, for writing the book even, was to drive as deep as wedge as he possibly can between American Muslims and Americans of other religions. I couldn't begin to say why, but look at what the man does, what he says – HOW he says what he says. I don't trust anyone that is out to divide Americans.
I am glad that those 2 left the stage. Blaming all muslims for 9 11 is totally ridiculous. I as muslim hate extremist as much as christian . People like bill and rush bimbah are the one who r spreading hate.
By seeing that they left stage gives me hope that there r americans who think that islam has nothing to do with terrorism.
Peace
The View should be nominated in the best comedy category for the daytime Emmy Awards. I LMAO most anytime I catch it on the tube. A room full of people who think they are the smartest folks in the world. At least they aren't politicians who could possibly put their beliefs into action. Barbara Walters is losing a great deal of her credibility giving her fools a nationally televised voice.
Who cares what was said and who said it. This country is suffering and we are worried about people walking off a show and still getting paid more money then any of us.
YOU should care. O'Reilly is one of those people that talk so much, and so sincerely, that people start to believe him. A LOT of people. He has a large following. He has a purpose. That purpose is to create discord, to divide America. Not "United We Stand" but, "In Hate and Fear We Are Divided" He would see American Muslims, all of them lumped together, and Americans of other religions pitted against each other. Bill O'Reilly wants to break America, and you want to stand by with a "who cares" and let him. Go you.
This is how Bill works. He says something inflammatory and outrageous, then everyone around him flips out. Then he plays the "no, I didn't say that, I said this" game, which infuriates everyone further. As he gets more and more into what he said and not what he meant, everyone gets madder and madder, and gives him the advantage because they're yelling and not thinking straight, while he is cool and composed.
Bill is a very smart man, and he knows exactly how to pull people's strings. He is extremely good at getting people to act like hotheaded fools, while he maintains his composure and picks them apart. Whoopi and Joy walked straight into his trap and they should have seen it coming a mile away. When he deconstructed what he said and apologized if his words were misconstrued, and the two of them walked back onto the set, they looked like dogs with their tails tucked between their legs.
I don't agree with Bill at all, but he is very good at what he does and he played those two like chumps.
O'really belongs in a padded cell, with a few of his other psycho friends from POX news.
The two democrats walked off the stage because they couldn't have a rational discussion. It offended them because Bill O Reilly spoke the truth. The truth stings, and they couldn't accept it.
Isn't that WHY the show is called "The View?" Everyone talks about THEIR viewpoint. How disappointing on Whoopie's part to walk out. Typical of Joy Behar. She talks about free speech but ONLY if it's HER speech to make! How unprofessional of BOTH women and from how Barbara Walters talked, she though so also and was not happy with Whoopie and Joy.
Buck Fill O'Reilly
The sad part is that our country ( and I use this term lightly) is no longer our country, not in any real sense of the word. There are so many foreign countries in the united states, all granted foreign amunity for anything illegal that they do. We send billions of dollars to feed other countries while our own people starve, build them houses and make it hard for americans to afford a home, we educate their people for free and our own kids can not afford to go to collage. I for one am tired of it, tired of hearing about it. I wish we could get a business man/woman with common sense to run this country. It does not take so many people to make a decision or ok the presidents decision, get rid of the over priced baggage in congress and save America some money. I've also noticed that in every court house it takes two or three employees to do the job of one – again cut back on unnessary spending in the government, it's out of control and ridicules. Then maybe the so called debt wouldn't be so high. Put all of the money we give away back into America where it belongs. And quit putting our noses into other countries business. Our fighting shoud be because it is absoutly necessary to the well being of OUR country, not to make friends of foreigners that hate us, tell us they hate americans while being educated in our schools and working our jobs and owing businesses in our country (that they hate). Common sense tells you that if you let people into our country that openly admit that they hate us, something like 9/11 is bound to happen. Just my opinion.
@jambones:
Maybe if you stepped out of your protected compound and actually talked to the locals in the Middle East, you'd get a more rounded view. Yes, I served in the military too, and I lived in the Gulf for 4 years, and I met a lot of peaceful, respectful Muslims. Sure there are nuts everywhere, but the vast majority are peaceful.
Re: your comments on the Koran - have you read the Old Testament lately? Ever notice the violence and hypocrisy in THAT?
okay, a) it is not a mosque, it is an ISLAMIC CULTURAL CENTER that includes a prayer room, and b) those are extremist muslims. it is not fair to judge all muslims based on the actions of a few extremists; many Muslims died in 9/11. 9/11 affected us all and it is ridiculous to blame American Muslims for the actions of terrorists who have nothing to do with them.
I wish that the imam would come out and public denounce the attacks of 9/11– I actually wish it could be required as a precursor to its construction. Then, I think more people would support the fact that it is the Muslim religion, and not the extremists of that faith who are welcome to build on that site. I think the ABSENCE of a public denouncing of those attacks is in some ways viewed as acceptance of those acts. I know when I, as a follower of Christ, hear about crazy things that others have done in the name of Christ that are totally against all that I truly believe Christ stood for, I denounce those things– I separate myself from those "extremists," if you will. I just wish the imam would do the same thing– and it hasn't happened that I know of... and I wonder if it ever would... or could??
While I have quite a few good muslim friends, I also agree along with them that it is insensitive of them to even push this issue of building a mosque at the site where their own people in the name of religion killed innocent victims. On a different topic, do you think that Saudi Arabia would allow us to build a church anywhere near Mecca or Medina? Word is they wont allow anyone to distribute bibles in their country.
Pick any place you like outside of the Middle East & you'll see the exact same cookie cutter approach with the end of achieving world domination: first, a small influx of Muslims to establish a beachhead. Then a period of active proselytizing & conversion. Once the Muslim community is firmly established, calls for the Muslim community to be allowed to dispense with local customs & laws in order to practice a stricter interpretation of Islamic law. Followed by calls for a separate Islamic state within a state [or outright secession,] then full mobilization of radical extremist actions to force the issue. Islam is the new communism. In the same way that communism insinuated itself across a wide swath of the world, so does Islam. Look at any of scores of examples across the globe: the Philippines, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Chechnya, Kosovo, Malaysia,
It’s the new communism. It’s a virulent cancer that’s spreading around the world, and anyone who thinks we’re not at war with Islam is deluding themselves.
And if you don’t think the majority of Muslims are extremist, just take a look at the hundreds of thousands who are whipped up into a frenzy by ignorant mullahs to turn out to riot, intimidate & murder innocents at the slightest perceived provocation. You don’t catch members of any civilized religions performing the atrocious acts attributed to “modern” Muslims. Maybe you could make that argument 400 years ago, but it doesn’t hold water today.
Yes, I agree that Imam Rauf has a right to build his center near Ground Zero, but it surely is highly insensitive to the memory of the people who died there. And for the people who are quick to say that “Muslims died in the 911 attacks,” please keep it in context: of the almost 3,000 that died that day, and the several hundred first responders & others who have died since, only a few dozen were Muslims, including the 19 hijackers.
Grow up America. And grow up, Joy & Whoopi.
Thank you Bill for standing up for America! Yes it was Muslims who attacked us on 9/11, whether they were extremeist or not they were still Muslim! The victims of 9/11 should not have to be reminded that their loved ones were killed by a group of Muslims. The Mosque is inappropriate and should not be allowed. .If the muslims do not like it let them go back to their own country. I am sick of this country worrying over political correctness. Joy is constantly sympathizing with anyone foreign born and who is againist America! Whoopi is getting to be just as bad. It was very unprofessional for them to walk off the show!
The difference between Timothy McVeigh & 9-11 is that Timothy McVeigh was not acting in the name of Catholicism. To say he was Catholic is no more significant to the Oklahoma bombing than to say he was male, or right handed or whatever. But the terrorists on 9-11 acted IN THE NAME OF ISLAM. Of course, that does not mean that all Muslims are terrorists but to ignore that fact is irresponsible at best & outright dangerous at worst.
What trashy behavior displayed by trashy women.
He was being inflammatory. Absolutely. They were being unprofessional brats. They threw a collective temper tantrum. They shouldn't get to keep jobs in which they bully dissenters who can't pitch as big a fit as they can and otherwise stomp off.
Everyone is so sensitive anymore. "You didn't add 'extremist' to Muslim, that's politically incorrect. So now you hate all Muslims... Blah, blah, blah." Muslims did attack the US on 9/11. The terrorist were Muslims. Does that make all Muslims bad. No! I'm a Christian. They have "Christians" that burn the Qu'ran and protest US soldiers' funerals. Do I crap my pants when they call them Christians. No!
Bill is 110% correct. Muslims did kill us on 9/11, and i cant believe any true american would take the muslims side. All those solders that died...who killed them?
Pin head is a mild word. The entire Fox network starting with Beck, O"Riley, Hannity and the other special guest are just plain radicals. They make the old John Birch society blush.
Have you noticed that the people who scream tolerance the most are the people with the LEAST tolerance? Odd isn't it? Joy Behar, Whoopie Goldberg, Rosie O'Donnell.
I've watched this at least 3 times. Both of you should be ashamed of yourselves. The show is "The View" YOU are the ones that misunderstood, and were totally unprofessional. You didn't want to hear another opinion (other than your own) didn't even ask him to clarify, you 2 just bucked up, and stomped off with your ball, you can't play, nobody else will either. And as for the McVeigh comment. He was a Catholic, but not a practicing one. (Wiki) He was actually an atheist-only believed in a "higher power", and didn't believe there was a hell. Besides that, HE DIDN'T KILL IN THE NAME OF MOTHER MARY OR GOD, or any other RELIGION! You have said worse about the Catholics, and others. POT CALLING KETTLE BLACK!!!!! Get off the air if you don't know the background on what you are speaking about. Woopie too! No one is condemning all Muslims, but the question still remains why the so called "moderate ones" are not renouncing the Sharia and the extremist, because if they are to join this country, needs to be condemned. Take a look at Paris, take a long look at England....look at the history, or can you research? What kind of Journalist are you if you don't know that 70% is opposed to the Mosque? And as for Ventura, sounds like he is just mad cause Fox won't let him on their shows. He didn't do you any good. Another disgruntled playmate? You lost a viewer, the view seems to be only one sided. Wake up Lady! Open your mind to a different possibilities, there are others out there that live it.
Why does anyone care what Joy Behar (who is dumber than the people whe makes fun of) or Whoopie Goldberg think about ANYTHING? I don't watch The View. Why does someone have to tell me what happened on that show? If I wanted to know, I would watch it.
Hitler and Mussolini were Roman Catholics - as is O'Reilly - but I've never heard it said that Catholics were responsible for World War 2...if they were, will O'Reilly please give me a call as I have a score to settle with him.
LOL I don't think O'Reilly has earned that high of company. I don't like that he is using this whole debate to drive a wedge between Muslims and everyone else. Why would he want to divide America against itself like that? Makes you think.
A quick follow up. While McVey claimed to not be affiliated with his church, he DID accept Last Rites before execution.
He was an invited guest and Barbara was right, that what happened, should never had happened. Whoopie and Joy acted like spoiled brats. I regular watch the View and boy, when Whoopie doesn't like a guest, she sure lets them know and lets the audience know she doesn't like that particular guest, by the rolling of her eyes, etc. and Joy, well she's just plain rude to guests she doesn't like. I hope they were reprimanded by Barbara or better yet, they should be fired! Again...he was an INVITED GUEST....
Typical radical right wing politics. Slam an entire religion, culture, or class of humans - then act liike a victim. Pinhead indeed.
It is very difficult to have rational converstation between political extremists. Both parties think they are right and anyone who does not believe as they do is wrong. It is challenging for those that like to listen to both sides and make educated decisions to take these people seriously. Many tend to just ignore opinions of extremists on either end.
ahahaha priceless. Those obnoxious old hens getting their panties in a left-wing bunch again. Every second watching their show is a travesty to the eyes and ears.
Terriorism manifests itself in many forms. We are beginning to see how thoughtless and ignorant comments undermine this country. The comments are hidden in the pages of books and come to us on daily talk shows. The "terrorists" laugh and say that they are entertainers not politicians. They have the freedom to say what they want. We must be very careful when we listen to these people. Their message is insidious. I am amazed that some of the most intelligent people have been drawn to these messages.
Don't know if anyone pointed it out already, but Tim McVey was Catholic. Now, as a practicing Lutheran, I know we made peace a long time ago. But for the sake of discussion, should someone claim that ALL Catholics are terrorists ? Or that a cathedral would be inappropriate in Oklahoma City? Sounds pretty far fetched, doesn't it? I'd be willing to bet most of the folks preaching "What the Koran tells "them" to do" never read a Koran. For that matter probably not a Bible. Don't preach hatred with My Jesus – his message is "Love one another, feed the hungry, help the poor, visit those in prison" Not start another crusade for the sake of oil.
Regardless of all the idiots fighting below, to answer the question "should they have walked off" one must decide what kind of interview this is. Is it editorial or objective? Either way, walking off seems a bit immature, UNLESS they needed to compose themselves, but probably a bit unprofessional.
I personally tend to disagree with Mr. O'Rielly, but I definitely agree with Barbara Walters when she said that they should be able stay to discuss.
As for the rest of you, please learn to spell and grasp basic punctuation prior to spewing your news stand knowledge.
What is the name of the show again? VIEW ...views from anybody right? Oh Geeh!! the 2 hosts of the show walk out from their own show! They should be FIRED!!!
Bill O'Reilly is simply an employee of Rupert Murdoch and therefore says what he is told to say to promote the billionair's positions. He is not to be taken seriously. If you follow the Mainstream media rather than the Murdoch media then you probably don't even know what he is talking about.
Bill sure knows how to get the ladies all hot 'n bothered!
The building of the Islamic center isn’t about religion. Its about giving the terrorist another victory. Even if it’s not the intention of the people behind it, that’s what the end result will be.
Ever notice that the extreme liberals (Joy, Whoopie and Rosie) are always the ones screaming at guests/fellow co-hosts or walking off the show? If you don't agree with their point of view they will shout you down. Poor Elizabeth...I don't know why she continues to want to work with these shrews.
Who is Bill O'Reilly?
they clearly have the RIGHT to build the center there...but i think it would be a sign of compassion and understanding to see how building it TWO BLOCKS from ground zero could make some people feel upset. The muslim community wants people to understand them and show compassion, but its a two way street.. both sides should see both sides point of view
muslims have the right to build it there....and there is no denying that...
however.. it is also perfectly understandable why some people might find it uncomfortable and even offensive..
if those opposed to its building could acknowlege muslims right to build it their and assert that they know muslims didnt attack america but extremists using the religion as a scapegoat for the attack, than the muslim community could acknowledge why some might find it offensive building it so close
that is how compromise and understanding works...you cant ask for understanding and respect without giving it back..both sides need to give and take
we cant move forward if one side HAS to be right and one side HAS to be wrong..moving forward requires understanding, compassion and compromise from both sides..
anyone who denies their right to build it their is wrong...but anyone who cant see why building it right there might be uncomfortable for some people(especially relatives of those who died in the attacks) isn't keeping an open mind
"They should just change the name of the show from The View.. to The Jews... hahahahhahahhahahhahaha"
Thats makes ALMOST as much sense as breaking into your neighbors house and rewiring their dvd player to a different input on their television set.
muslims did attack us on 9/11. thats really all the reason you need to justify not wanting a muslim center built near that attack site.
@Hellscream
You don't get it. It's not the literal words of the texts (Bible or Qu'ran). Anyone can find quotes supporting whatever their agenda in either text. History has proven this over and over. Neither is holier, better, more good, or less evil. It's a ridiculous argument.
Inflammatory comments like "Muslims killed us on 9/11" or whatever the idiot said is not helpful. It's stoking the flames and inciting fear for personal gain at the expense of others. The man is spouting his fear to sell his books and his TV time. All of us would be better off without him in the national spotlight. I wish we could just ignore him and several other idiots on both sides of the political spectrum until they went away.
Bill couldn't find his way out of a paper bag much like the rest of my fellow Americans. All religions demand a harsh level of loyalty, step in line or be banished to HELL. Many religious uneducated fools will try to argue that without religion you can't develop a system of morality. Yet, man has written all books of faith.. to say god spoke to them is ridiculous, also they might have been suffering from mental illness, most likely from molesting children, yes the church has always had issues with priest since the early times.. READ history, please. You all need to go back to college or highschool.
Have you noticed how graceful Barbara Walters handles any situation? She's from a different generation and it shows when sitting next to Behar. I didn't even know Behar had a show. I like her demeanor even less than Rosie.
Sooooooooo un professional
Thank God for people like Bill O'Reilly that say it like it is. I can't stand Joy and Whoopi and their Liberal extremism. How unprofessional can you get? They should both be fired. That show is crap. They invite a guest to the show and treat him like a dog, well, probably they would treat their dogs better. Can't stand them both. The show would be much better off without them.
The terrorists who hijacked the planes that flew into the two towers were Muslim, therefore Muslims did kill those people. That is the truth and it can't be denied. However they were also radicals and are not the voice of the everyday Muslim. In every religion there are radicals who will make brash choices that are not representative of the population's beliefs. Im not just talking about Muslims but Christians too. A prime example is the priest who was going to burn the Koran. But whether they had the approval of a the everyday Muslim or not, Muslims did kill Americans on 9/11. thats a fact.
I can't stand Behar nor Goldberg. I wish more bad actors would get up and walk off my TV like that.
Tonight tens of thousands of Muslims are going to bed thinking of the best way to kill as many Americans as possible. This is reality folks. They hate you and want you dead!
Where's O'Reilly's freedom of speech, Joy? Whoopie? You both defend American's rights and liberties yet as soon as anyone voices an opinion you don't share you freak out. Your hypocrisy is pathetic.
Bring on more like Barbara. At least she can discuss. You two look like a couple of menopausal crybabies.
Does someone actually care what those two fat hogs think?
Where's O'Reilly's freedom of speech, Joy? Whoopie? You both defend American's rights and liberties yet as soon as anyone voices an opinion you don't share you freak out. Your hypocrisy is pathetic.
Bring on more like Barbara. At least she can discuss. You two look like a couple of menopausal crybabies.
You are absulutely right, Bill does have the freedom to speak. What he does not have, that you assumed he did, was the freedom to spout purposefully imflammitory comments on SOMEONE ELSE'S show, and expect them to sit still for it. If he wanted to use that sort of hate language, he should have saved it for his own show. Why couldn't he have said it in a way that wouldn't trigger a reaction? Because he didn't want to do that. Not because he didn't know. Because he didn't want to. He's been a "tv personality" for a long time, he knows his way around a speech, he knows exactly what he said, and what reaction it would get. He didn't "voice an opinion" he set up a reaction.
Absolutely Bill has the right to say what he believes... Why is it when anyone, especially white Americans say anything now, it's called racist? It's my belief more Americans need to speak in what they believe in without the fear of being crucified by people of other religions or race..Bil lis right to say muslims killed on 9/11, it's not to saying all muslims are extremists. If we, the white Americans continue the path so many are taking, we wont' be able to say anything for being afraid.. Is that what we want? This is America and we have the right to speak, we have the right to wave the American Flag, we have the right to pray anyplace we see fit, we have the rights,it seems to me, that some of us have forgotten we have rights.
I think Behar and Goldberg showed just how unprofessional they are when they got up, isn't it their job to listen to the guests on the show?
Here's the really funny thing about this: It's ok for Joy Behar and Whoppi Goldberg to walk off the stage and be intolerant toward Bill O'Reilly for his beliefs, but it's not ok for Bill O'Riley to be intolerant toward other people's beliefs! Talk about being hypocritical!
John in Texas
Mr. O'Reilley was completely correct with his statement "Muslims killed us on 9-11". Everyone of the hijackers was an avowed Muslim. Whoopy Goldberg is typical of liberal movie stars with outrageous, liberal opinions. I doubt if she even has a college degree. She is a useless moron. O'Reilly sometimes is too extreme but NOT this time. The Muslim religion is the ONLY religion that teaches its people to kill someone who is an unbeliever. And then, to top it off, Islam teaches them they will be REWARDED.
This show has really gone down hill. I quit watching it years ago, so I didn't see it today. I remember Barbara introducing the show saying that she created it with multi-generational women to exchange ideas. It sounds like Joy and Whoopie aren't interested in hearing any ideas unless they personally agree with them. Totally unprofessional. I don't think they should be fired. I think they should continue on and keep showing how ridiculous this show has become. Poor Barbara. The show seems to have come an older version of Bad Girls. Bunch of drama queens. Hope every one will finally realize this show long ago Jumped the Shark.
They should have both kept walking......
The answer is self-evident. We all know that it's both inaccurate and inappropriate to make generalizations about a large population of people based upon the extreme actions of a few who happen to share the same race, ethnicity or religion. O'Reilly was both out-of-line and irresponsible.
John in Texas
Mr. O'Reilley was completely correct with his statement "Muslims killed us on 9-11". Everyone of the hijackers was an avowed Muslim. Whoopy Goldberg is typical of liberal movie stars with outrageous, liberal opinions. I doubt if she even has a college degree. She is a useless moron. O'Reilly sometimes is too extreme but NOT this time. The Muslim religion is the ONLY religion that teaches its people to kill someone who is an unbeliever. And then, to top it off, Islam teaches them they will be REWARDED for murder. A Totally sick religion, and very evil
Not all Muslims are bad.....correct, The people flying the planes were Muslims...correct.Muslims have been waging war against Christians and America for how long???? When are we going to stop bowing down to everybody and everything because we are afraid of offending someone.This is our country and it is being taken over and walked all over by everybody.The extremist Muslims are plotting and waiting to kill more of us.How do you tell them apart from good Muslims???? You don't. So because we are afraid of offending someone,innocent American people will die.Maybe it will be your kid at the mall when the bomb goes off,maybe it won't.At some point we are going to have to seal our borders for our own protection. I don't care who is offended if it means our country is safe. And oh yeah,.....press one to read this in English, wouldn't want anyone to feel offended because we don't offer their language. Stand up America before its too late.To get back to the main point, if a pack of wild dogs came in and killed your family,would you want a massive kennel put up across the street so all the dogs could come and hang out???? I think it is un-american not to be upset about anything Muslim related (good or bad) going up anywhere near ground zero.What smack in the face is next??? Why is it that as time goes by,the people running this country seem to get dumber and dumber and dumber.Quit giving our hard earned money away to freeloading people and countries. How much money did Haiti send us to help out with the San Francisco earthquake.......I wonder.Wake up people and stand up for your country while it is still yours.
Well said American...100% correct on all accounts...
Islam forbids Muslims from lieing, cheating, hurting, and murdering people of other faith, Jews, Christians, ect. A Muslim cannot murder another human being. Someone who committs murder is no longer a Muslim. These are the facts. The 911 hijackers were murderers, criminals or terrorists simple as that. Common sense.
Mr. O'Reilley was completely correct with his statement "Muslims killed us on 9-11". Everyone of the hijackers was an avowed Muslim. Whoopy Goldberg is typical of liberal movie stars with outrageous, liberal opinions. I doubt if she even has a college degree. She is a useless moron. O'Reilly sometimes is too extreme but NOT this time. The Muslim religion is the ONLY religion that teaches its people to kill someone who is an unbeliever. And then, to top it off, Islam teaches them they will be REWARDED for murder. A Totally sick religion, and very evil.
Adolph Hitler was Roman Catholic. Were we fighting Roman Catholics in WWII?
It's really not about right or wrong opinions or who you agree with... it's all about MANNERS.
Whoopi and Joy didn't use any today!
I must say, it at times troubles me, the depth of repulsion I feel towards Joy Behar.
I think it is rather entertaining that anyone takes anything that the see on t.v. seriously... These shows are only after ratings. Ratings equal money. Would anyone actually believe that both O'Reilly's show and The View are scripted by writers? Writers that now how to grab your attention and sell ad spots during commercial breaks.
Though I don't agree with him most of the time, I think this time Bill is right. Yes, most muslims are peaceful but the ones that attacked on 9/11 and the ones attacking us around the globe today are killing in the name of their religion. They believe they are in a "Holy War" sanctioned by Allah. They use the teachings of their holiest book to justify these killings Imam's and other Islamic leaders preach Jihad in some of these Mosque's. I'm all for freedom of religion and freedom of speech but I have to draw the line when parts of that religion believe that I have somehow done them wrong and deserve to die. In the words of Dennis Miller.."That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."
When is Joy's baby due?
ditto "WOW" Bill has just announced that he is enemy to ALL Muslims. I'd hate to but there when "Justice" and "Karma" finally meet.
Too bad Whoppi and Joy lost their temper, and hopefully they will keep their jobs. The View is an Emmy Award winning talk show, for those who didn't know. That movie made the show more realistic in my VIEW.
I can't believe I just lost four minutes of my life watching silly people yell at each other. I need to read more books.
I'm thinking Will Rogers never met Joy Behar.
there's no god, there's no allah. there's no higher power. there's nothing. the human race, everything on this planet, and everything in the entire universe is 13 billion years of chemical reactions forced by gravitational pulls and varying gas pressures. someday our race will grow up and realize that and stop killing
each other over archaic fairy tales. believe in yourself, not books of lies.
Tell it like it is Bill. You should wear the distain of damn fools like Goldberg and Behar with pride. It would give me a great deal of pleasure if I could personally knock each one of them out cold.
The two women who walked off are the first to preach about tolerance, their walking away because another had a view that they did not share, and that's all it was, shows just how intolerant they are.
A great satire of a tea-partier's visit to a controversial mosque in Wisconsin....Someone get this to that clown O'reily!
http://stumpanatheist.com/index.php?option=com_k2&view=item&id=10:muslims-in-wisconsin??&Itemid=59
BURN!!!! hahaha
Burn, indeed. I have some relatives/friends this is going straight to.
Like the idea behind the site, too. It's a refreshing change of pace from the New Atheists
This idiot, along with 90% of the people who commented on this feed, are all buying into the LIE! ISLAM IS NOT A RELIGON OF PEACE! Of course they are going to be nice when you visit their mosques!
RIGHT ON LYNDSAY!!! This is one nation under GOD, not ALLAH!
Bill, Bill, Bill liberals can not deal with hard facts but well done! I wished Whoopee could have been at ground zero on 9/11
When a person is consumed in faith such as Islam or Christianity, as many here are, it is difficult making sound, educated decisions. History has verified this. Since Islam is just another religion to me and it does not contradict my world view any more than any other religion, I don't carry a lot of antipathy toward it. Some of these Muslim have a serious mad-on for you Christians and, obviously, some of you Christians carry a lot of venom for Islam. Do you think that these emotional predispositions are healthy for making sound judgments regarding how one is to act toward people of other faiths? It may come to the point where we atheist/agnostics find ourselves protecting you religious folk from mutual annihilation.
Bill O Reilly is an IGNORANT SOB!!! MUSLIMS did not cause 9/11 u idiot!! extremists did!! so STOP blaming the millions of other MUSLIMS who had NOTHING to do with 9/11!!!!! THANK YOU JOY & WHOPPI for standing up to what is RIGHT!!!!!
O'riley is a pinhead. He is also a religious extreamist just like the muslim extreamist he hates. I hope the guy fades away.
Don't refer to those women as "ladies".
O'Reilly said "Muslims killed us" he did not say "The Muslims". He did not say "All Muslims". It's not his due diligence to specify that he wasn't referring to ALL Muslims. You people are just mis-interpreting it and are probably offended just to hear the word "Muslim" used in debate.
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None the less, I still disagree with him.
As for Joy and Whoopie, they over-reacted big time. If you're going to get emotional and offended then you are in the wrong line of business. Whoopie should slip her nuns gown back on and go back to making movies.
When was the last time Whoopi did anything worthy of remembering? And Joy Behar is just a blow hard that likes to hear herself talk. I personally don't watch the show because I am not a fan of gossipy opinionated itches.
The only one on that shows history that has any brains moved on to news....actual journalism and a stint on who wants to be a millionaire.
The show sucks, it's biased towards Obama and has ZERO journalist integrity.....I can't believe Barbara Walters put her name on such a stupid train wreck of an idea....if it was Obama the Clown or Bill "blue dress" Clinton I bet they would be open to all kinds of people bashing....which proves even more this is a waste to TV time and a forum for gossipy hens that know absolutely nothing about anything.
Side note....isn't Joy a Jew? Why would she be so defensive and side with a religion that wants her people wiped out?
Man these women are dumb.
Oh oh you naive people.
that was so unprofessional of whoopi and joy. hope they get fired!!
Let's face it: Extremist are COWARDS. They hide behind their fellow Muslims to launch attacks, which over the last ten years have killed more Muslims with car bombs and suicide bombs in Pakistan and Afghanistan than all those killed on 9/11. Their objective is to keep their issues on the table. The only way they can figure to do it is committing horrific acts of brutality. It doesn't matter to them who they kill to do it, as long as they make the front page. Cowards and pitiful excuses for human beings, they are.
An antiabortionist extremist finds justification in murdering abortion doctors. Most of these antiabortionists are Christians. Do we then blame all Christians? All antiabortionists? We should all look into our own houses before condemning a group in general. We are the ones with all the access to information, but so many of us fail to make ourselves available to it.
It is quite apparent that the freedom of speech is slowly being eroded in our society due to LEFT WING extremeists who can say anything they want as long as its FLUFF but curtail the speech of those who have a commitment....
we are slowly going to a police state cuz of the left>>NOT THE RIGHT
Islam does not care one bit about non-believers! they would cut your throat and not think anything about it! You are a dam fool if you think these kooks want peace... they want world domination... they will lie, and say what ever it is you want to hear... but dont think for one minute they want to live in peace! they dont!
Uncalled for association by Bill O'Reilly. So here's a question: if we call the 100 or so terrorists who were involved in the attacks Muslims, what do we call the 1.5 billion or so followers of Islam who did not commit the attacks? Why should the tiny speck of a minority define the label Muslim and the overwhelming majority of completely innocent, peaceful people who already call themselves Muslims be thrown in? Bill O'Reilly was wrong to misuse the word Muslim to define the terrorists. That word already had a meaning, and it was not "the men who attacked the US". Shameful for someone who surely has been helped in his career, or simply treated fairly, by at least one practicing Muslim, if not thousands, along the way. You can do better, Bill O'Reilly. You can be better than that.
Watching liberals (excuse me, "progressives") react to anything they disagree with by throwing a tantrum has become beyond boring.
I would like to personally thank Whoopi and Joy for taking a stand againt ignorance! Bill O'Reilly is offensive and a bully!
I am a proud Muslim American and take personal OFFENSE to what he said on the show today. How dare he make such a blanket statement and think that he can get away with such RACISM.
I am sick and tired of my religion getting hijacked by Fox News and it's followers.
Bravo Whoopi and Joy for taking a stand and showing what America really stands for, TOLERANCE.
Why is it Muslims and liberals cry tolerance the loudest when yet they are the most intolerant people there is?
Imagine if say some southern baptist (I'm from the south so I can say it) went and crashed some planes in Tehran. They'd still be throwing rocks and burning flags like a bunch of wild dogs today. More people have died in the name of Islam than any other relgion. Don't care if they are offended.
Isn't it wonderful that we still have the freedom to express ourselves, even if everyone does not agree.
I am sure that O'Reilly would not say that "the Christians killed civil rights activist Medgar Evers" just because he was murdered by the KKK, a self-proclaimed Christian organization who burns the cross of Jesus Christ on the lawns of people they want to terrorize. So why would he say "the Muslims did 9/11"? He knows that 9/11 was done by radicals (just like the KKK), but O'Reilly is shamelessly playing to his fan base and their primal instincts.
T McVeigh was not a Christian. A Christian is a follower of Christ and is expected to live as Christ did.
For those of you who are so quick to condem Christianity. First the only true Christian is one who by faith has received the forgiveness of their sins by Jesus Christ the Son of God. If this has not taking place in your life, then you are not a Christian.
What I really think it boils down to is the U.S. is still severely scarred from 9/11. I'm not saying over time people that lost loved ones,or just people that were scarred by it,will forgive over time. It's just too soon to try to get the U.S. people to forgive a race for the actions of a few ! !
So stating a fact – the attackers were Muslim – is demeaning the religion? Really? Did you maybe think they were Buddhist? Saying they are Muslim – true – does not imply that all Muslims are terrorists. What an unrelated leap.
Why promote the View as a place for discussion if you're going to walk off the set over such a stupid thing. Barbara Walters is a class act; too bad her two cohosts don't under civil disagreement.
we shall not menton any religion anymore and make everyone happy ,talk about flowers and furry small animals,rainbows and pretend that all is all right with the world and not listen to anything that might make us mad. The behaviour of the two ladies who I really like was bad. It shows that anothers "Views" is not allowed on any level and shows that they cannot understand that other people are allowed to speak how they see life. Muslim . what is that religion? Many forms of it and levels is what that religion is . Just like chritsianity is to Christians on levels and beliefs . there is the mild to the extreme and we all know some christians are very willing to die for their god ,just as willing as some muslims are just as willing to die for theirs. Terrorists at heart and set on making their point by spilling others blood along with their own. What do we call them "Christians gone bad " Christans .. what? I believe this whole issue is sad. The last year the muslim religion ,the people have taken the rap very hard here in the USA and many people have become so sensitive that saying anything that remotely sounds off becomes a civil war anymore. Both women would be asked to apoligize period .. they were actually in the wrong.
How unprofessional of these women.They are supposed to be talk show hosts. Gez! I do believe it was Muslims that caused 911, right. Why shouldn't they have been referred to as Muslims? That's what they were. Maybe they should be called archaic, ignorant, women-beating monsters?
I personally believe both parties were in the wrong on this one. Mr. O'Reilly should have ensured that he was talking about extremists or should not have said anything of the sort at all. As for the hosts, they should never have walked away from the discussion. If you have a problem with something someone has said, you address it directly in a respectful, but direct manner. Especially when you are PAID to do so. You expect people to take you seriously when you simply "walk away" from a problem. If that is how you deal with problems, I hope hosting a show is as far as you want to go in life. And back to Bill O'Reilly, it is people with views like the ones you portrayed that give Americans a bad name as a whole. I get so angered when hearing people talk down about the entire Muslim religion over a group of extremists. There are extremists of all religions and they do things that ruin the image of the religion as a whole. If your brother were to break the law, you wouldn't be jailed alongside him, innocently, due to his actions. Think before you speak, that goes to all of us.
O'Reilly is right..Muslims did attack us on 9/11...They said they were going to do in the name of islam, they praised Allah upon their attack, they cited islamic law and theology while they attacked and they hid, trained and planned all within the confines of a mosque....Get with it Whoopi and Joy....the two of them have no clue and it shows in their idiotic comments and their own extremists views....
Being warblers on moronic talk shows don't make them experts on anything. Typical liberal practice, talk over your opponent, call them names, and make vial assertions and allegations then storm off in a tantrum...Whoopi, you are funny; Joy, you're simply a untalented bonehead...
Oh stop it.
The KKK burned a cross on my lawn! They did it in the name of Christianity! They used the cross of Jesus Christ and praised Jesus while they lynched a black man!
Oh for Pete's sake, connect the dots between radicals and regulars in a religion!
People WAKE THE FRICK UP
We are at war with Islam
Even with Obama reaching out his hand to All of the mulim world
the latest survey has 85% of ALL mulims disliking (hating) the good old USA.
if all you liberals want to live in a make beleive world
move to Iran
Bobby wrote: "We are at war with Islam...." Obama does not get this blah blah blah. You forget the George W. Bush also said "we are not at war with Islam". Oh yeah, if we are at war with Islam, why did he stand next to the new Iraqi Prime Minister (a Muslim!) and call him "a great guy"? You must have amnesia!
Get a accurate translation and read what the Koran teaches, it is taught to take people that are non muslin out. It is their teaching, the ones that are doing the killing are doing what the Koran teaches, they are not extremist's but being faithful to their teachings. So when everybody says the extremists, they are wrong, they are acting upon their teaching what the Koran teaches.
The View lost all credibility years ago when it became evident that the only "views" allowed are those that lean far left of center. It went from trash with Rosie to garbage with Whoopie. As for the way the hosts treat their invited guests, it is appaling to see the disrespect they receive and I don't understand why anyone would agree to be on the show . Whoopie and Joy should be fired for their boorish behavior and If Barbara wants to try to reclaim any of her journalistic integreity back she should fire them immediately.
Medgar Evers was killed by the KKK. The KKK is a Christian organization, albeit extremist. Now, would O'Reilly say that "the Christians killed Medgar Evers"? Doubt it. Al-Quaeda is to Islam as the KKK is to Christianity. O'Reilly knows this.
You saw how quick he turned around when cornered. But he blurts out these racist, blanket statements to play to his fan base.
Now, let's apply the logic of Bill O'Reilly to the K.K.K. or Hitler – both extremist affiliations of the white persuasion – who "killed [just as many of] us" and more so on American soil than any "Muslim extremist" might ever imagine; ergo, it would appear that Bill O'Reilly is, perhaps, the face of a far greater evil that should be banned from nationwide television altogether; except – like 911 – it happened so long ago that, perhaps, it's time to just let it go.
Bill O's interest is for self promotion. Period. It is there way of getting people's attention.
The formula for getting attention is always to make disagreeable statement about race and religion. Is he not coincidentally promoting a book? It's absolutely pathetic and selfish for people of his standing to malign an entire religion just to get some attention to himself, if not his book.
Unfortunately, Bill is intelligent enough to pick our brains when he says those words. He is absolutely literally correct on his statement. All of those men happen to be Muslims. However, he is very irresponsible in his use of words and lacks sensitivity about the entire society he lives in, in general. His bearing is no different from Ahmadinejad, only they are on the opposite ends of the pole. People should learn to ignore statements from people like him.
Gee, how did I know which two walked off before I even saw tclicked on the article? Barbara Walters is the only true professional on that show!
O'Reilly is an entertainer but less obviously so than say, Jay Leno. O'Reilly is employed for his inflammatory rhetoric, not for any "news" or "knowledge" that he possesses – fairly low on both counts in my estimation, other than he knows what keeps him employed as an entertainer even though the quality of his entertainment needs improving.
The ratings of both shows will likely skyrocket, and the drama displayed could have been staged to accomplish this? Maybe the pinhead from FOX, should become more enlightened before commenting, and maybe the viewers, should pay attention to their own meager lives, as opposed to watching noise disguised as news/viewpoints, designed to sway the thoughts and actions of people.
You need to go live in/see a Muslim country (if you can get out alive for being non-muslim), and then see if you want the mosque here, or if you think the religion is a fit for america.
I find it interesting that the Muslims wanting to build a mosque at Ground Zero call it a 'bridge to understanding' of Islam or some such. But of course they INSIST on building it right there at Ground Zero. They say, It will be more than just a mosque – it will have a gymnasium, conference rooms, etc. I don't care WHAT the building has or even what they try to call it. If they go through with building this at Ground Zero, then it will now and forever be viewed by many Americans as what it truly is: a VICTORY MOSQUE! THIS is what MUSLIMS do!!!
I also agree with many other posters, who made comments about the 'silent majority' of so-called peaceful American Muslims. On 9/11... where were they? Where were their voices? Their denouncements? Oh, that's right, they were silent. In the business world, an E-mail discussion for a proposal will often include the phrase 'Silence means approval.". This is one of the things that really bothers me about American Muslims. If they are supposedly peaceful, WHY do they keep their voices silent? And if they ARE the so-called majority, why do they allow their religion to be hi-jacked by terrorists if the terrorists are such a small minority? That deafening silence suggests that the majority of American Muslims actually approved the actions of the murderers. Otherwise, why do they not speak up? They've had 10 years now to do so....
If they TRULY cared about building bridges, they would re-locate their project to another area. If they did that, I would welcome the new building and applaud them highly for being respectful of the feelings of the majority of American citizens, who do NOT want this building erected at Ground Zero. Just because you have the legal right (which I do not dispute at all!) and CAN build where you want to, does not necessarily mean you should.
Whoopi and Joy, what a couple of idiots, Muslims did kill thousands on 9/11. But they were extremists.
joy and whoopi made the correct decision, leave the area when this idiot keeps speaking.
I am so sick of these false apologies that are always being made these days. The person apologizing says, "I apologize to anyone who may have been offended by my remarks". What crap! That is saying, I 'm sorry you took my remarks wrong, and implies the offended person is the one who made the mistake. A REAL apology is this simple: "I apologize for what I said. It was wrong".
...one of the best compliments is to have idiots disagree with you.
This only confirms my thoughts about organized religion....ridiculous ideology. Human beings are the same everywhere around the world. There is good and there is evil, it's that simple.
O'Reilly is a sleazy hate mongering pig.
Yes, the terrorists who made the attack on 911were muslim. That does not mean that all muslims are extremists. There are extreme people in every religion. In fact, christians killed millions in the crusades. This means nothing. In the AMERICAN bill of rights, it gives us freedom to practice WHATEVER religion we please. Not letting them build the center would go against the principles that make this country great.
Bill certainly speaks out against religion, but on an HBO channel that you have to deliberately tune in to. In other words, it's your choice. I hope that those of you who have some spiritual belief would be as considerate and keep these thoughts to yourselves and to other, like-minded people. Most definitely -keep this stuff out of the classroom, just as I would keep my lack of beliefs out of the classroom. Oh – I've read some very "Jesus-like" reactions to him. Fueled with hatred – not the Jesus I was taught about. Don't you fear eternal damnation as your just reward for misrepresenting Jesus? You gotta..
The audience agreed with O'Reilly. There was and applause when he talked about the Muslim center.
MEGANUTT
Tim McVeigh was a Christian. Should we demean the whole Christian religion based upon the acts of a few,..or the one?
They do CONSTANTLY.... and even though the Crusades were in retaliation to the Muslim slaughter/invasion of Europe it is still the defacto position of those that hate Christians to bring up the crusades as a Christian slaughter...talk about being obsessed and having selective perception.
Next it is the Salem witches being burned...this was done by Puritans which are not today's Christians, but that doesn't seem to matter.
Cordoba is the name of the Mosque, it is named after another mosque in Spain and was celebrated as the "conquering" of the nation. Google it.
You are free to be swept into the deception...those with ears to hear and eyes to see will stay diligent and reap the scorn of you who embrace every wind that blows.
HERE'S THE TEST
1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by:
a. Superman
b. Jay Leno
c. Harry Potter
d. A Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by:
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davey Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons
b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill's women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers. Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
14. And now we can add: In 2009, 31 people wounded and 13 American Soldiers murdered on base at Fort Hood by a Major that was known as...
a: You guessed it – A Muslim male extremist between the age of 17 and 40.
No, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you? So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winner and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone lest they be guilty of profiling
Why don't you make a list of how many people were murdered by the KKK, a radical Christian organization? Am I to believe that ALL Christians are like this?
The down fall of the Human Race.....why is it the Gods only visited people thousands of years ago? The world is flat, there is no other life in the universe....simply minds are down fall of the Human Race.....Man is like a cancer
Amen!
Those who say the 9/11 Muslim Terrorist were "Terrorist, who happened to be Muslim" are delusional. These men were koran toting muslims intent on harming the US. Just because a few Muslims were in the towers does not wipe this fact away. Tim McVey may have been a Christian as some say, but if he was directed, finance and a fiery radical as the 9/11 crew the whole world would condemn christanity and there would be some serious soul searching within- which I do not see happening after 9 years in the muslim world.
i apologize if someone has already posted this but if thats the case (that muslims killed the US in 9/11) and that they shouldnt be allowed to build a temple 2 blocks away from ground zero, then i suppose all catholics are child molesters and that we shouldnt have a church next to a school. i do believe in free speech and people should say whatever they choose–i just dont like it when what they say is ignorant!
@ Joel- you don't know jack. you were in Iraq so you know muslims? you were in a warzone where you were paid to go kill and anything you saw is a representation of "what goes around comes around." Just like this response to your ignorant comment.
Religion is one of the worst inventions ever to spring from the mind of man.
After reading a bunch of these comments, I would like to leave two of my own...
1.) Who bombed abortion clinics in this country and in whose name? OHHH yeah, Christians in the name of God.
2.) The bible is just a hateful as the Koran... Shall I remind you... Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers. And you will know my name is The Lord when I lay my vengeance upon thee."
There's a statue of Jesus, Timothy McVeigh's god, at the Oklahoma City memorial.
(Expletive deleted) Bill O'Reilly
this is the type of venom he spits on his own show.
If these women are supposed professionals, they should have stayed on the set and acted professionally. Part of being a host on this type of show is having controversial topics. If they expect to agree with everyone, they shouldn't be the hosts! Grow up ladies!!
All faiths can be a platform for manipulation and all faiths have followers who will, can be, and are manipulated and commit devastating acts…but, the bottom line is, religions themselves don’t kill people. People kill people.
The women on the View that walk out on their guests should be dismissed. Joy is an idiot anyway. Whoopi doesn't have the class she thinks she has to absorb the conflicts that so happen live on network TV, end of story. Bill is out there on the Mosque and what it represents. I think it is a slap in the face to the USA to allow a place of woship for those that truly hate Americans and bait there own children with bombs to walk up to our solders that are only trying to bring resolve to their region, that will never ever in all this worlds existence get along. Ain't going to happen! Why?
Religion. Not color not money, not oil, the difference in Religion. Even popular American religions have killed in the name of our God. That's it.
I have a lot better things to do than watch the View. It is one of the worst reality shows on network TV, right there with The women of New Jersey or Atlanta, BS
Extremists, whether Islamic, Jewish, and yes, Christian are the problem here. Religion should be about reaching out, not Separating and dividing.
Without the teleprompters and his writers, the real naked thoughts of O'Reilly come to light.
Let's see how the writers will twist it all around and make fun of the ladies on his FX show and make him look in charge.
What a loser – only cares about ratings and book sales – nothing else.
Sleep well, Bill.
Yada yada yada, You are all a bunch of pinheads. Just STFU.
NEWS BULLETIN: This is a #$*(%) TV show. Controversy – hosts walking out – makes headlines… which generates news coverage… which focuses interest on the show… which stimulates viewership. Have we all turned into sheep and are so dumb that we don't know when we're being led to slaughter? How many comments are on this topic here? 'Rest my case.
Pure theater..........
Whoopi & Joy are two dopes who just don't get it.
What will they do in November or better yet 2012?
LEAVE THE COUNTRY? I hope so.
Um, I'll make a statement. "Christians conducted the Crusades in the Middle Ages." Does that statement demean the Christian religion?
Some of you are silly and under-educated regarding the Islamic religion. It is an article of their fair the kill non-believers, AN ARTICLE OF THEIR FAITH! There is no guarantee in Islam that you will go to paradise unless you are a martyr.
"Extremists" is simply a moderate term. Those who are killing non-Muslims are doing so because it is AN ARTICLE OF THEIR FAITH!!!
Qu'ran (2:191-193)
- "And slay them wherever ye find them, and drive them out of the places
...whence they drove you out, for persecution [of Muslims] is
worse than slaughter [of non-believers]...and fight them until
persecution is no more, and religion is for Allah."
I think Bill was perfectly correct in his statement. It is wrong to sugar coat this be cause of PC. Yes there are good Muslims, but I sure would like them to denounce the extremist so we could tell the difference. Muslims killed over 3000 Americans. We did not cause the attack but we shed American blood. So many liberals make it sound like 9/11 was our fault. All you have to do is read the Koran and you will see that it is their false religion that is to fault.
For those of you who try to compare 9/11 with OK City. You have it all wrong.
Here's the difference: When O'Reilly mentions "Muslims killed us". He's not wrong. Muslims did kill us and they did so in the name of Islam.
As far as the OK City Bombing. You can't say "Christians killed us" or "Angry army vet" killed us. They didn't kill in the name of Christianity or Army vet rights.
They were just disgruntled Americans who had enough with the Federal Government. Yes, they're still terrorists, but it had nothing to do with religion and that's the difference.
Why the obsession with labeling these terrorist as “Muslim” or “Islamic” radicals or extremists. Is terrorist not enough. People that are barbaric have used a major faith to divide throughout history but they don’t subscribe to its teachings. The KKK was not labeled as “Christian” radicals/racists even though they burn the cross. The IRA in Northern Ireland was not labeled as protestant or catholic terrorists. Timothy Mcveigh was not labeled as “Christian” terrorist. We all hate terrorist, but we don’t need to label 1.3 billion ppl along with them.
I don't think it's correct to state that Muslim's killed us.
BUT... In my opinion it goes way past the extremist involved with 9/11. To me, extremist sounds like a small group of thugs, individuals. But what about the tone in the Muslim world, when news broke on 9/11? Thanks to TV, we unfortunately know. Muslim's in several different countries were dancing in the streets, when they heard that American's were killed.
Perhaps it's politically correct to state that Muslins in these countries wanted, or preferred, us dead. But Muslim's in other countries did not kill us, nor share their view of the attackers, etc.
Just saying.....
Ok I live and work in NYC and the thought of the repercussions of building a new Islamic Center near ground zero scares the crap out of me. Not that I'm worried about Muslims extremists (the need to distinguish between those who danced in the streets and the few who justify strapping bombs to their body by quoting the Quran), but of American extremists (McVeigh and the like) and what they would do. Few people seem to realize that there are in fact 3 mosques currently in existence within 15 blocks of the WTC complex and before the towers fell there was actually a mosque INSIDE one of the towers. The management felt it was important to have locations for all faiths to practice. As an American I ask all Americans, why you you think the "Muslims" hate us? Is it because, among other things, our priorities are making a big deal about a single issue ignoring the global problem? If people are so against building this Islamic Center, why don't we just close every Mosque within 30 blocks of ground zero? There problem solved! Can we please move on, fix the economy, get rid of those multi-million dollar CEO's who get bonuses by profiting when the public is suffering, and deal with the million or so people that are loosing their homes to foreclosure because there is no bail out for the people!
O'Reilly has no problem with Israel and its slow-motion invasion of the West Bank. The call themselves "settlers", but they are evicting Palestinians from their ancestral homes to put Jewish Immigrants from anywhere in Eastern Europe into the occupied land.
O'Reilly doesn't think that is provocative, but feels an Islamic Community Center is just too strong for the tender New York Feelings.
Some of the comments in this blog states how it's just "too provocative" and even though its legal, shouldn't be there because it offends too many people.
CASE IN POINT: When public schools were integrated, the exact same thing was said. Having black kids in the same schools as white kids would be just too provocative, be too much of a distraction, too dangerous, blah, blah, blah. They should have "separate but equal". Meaning, not where I can see you. I thank God that the President decided that there was going to be integration no matter what, even if there are federal marshals in each classroom. Some of those kids went to school alone or almost alone when all the white kids were pulled out by their parents.
I'm not going to jump when Sarah Palin barks, or when Glen Beck puts out his hateful attacks. Bill O'Reilly is just mouthing the same garbage from the same script: "They" don't have a right to live in "our" country.
There is a prayer room in the Pentagon and has been since before 9-11. There was a prayer room in the WTC before it was brought down.
Joy and Whoopi are have clearly demonstrated that they are not professional journalists. They are merely talk show hosts and there is a big difference. If they only want to have a show where guests agree with them, then I guess that is their prerogative. The View is then merely a show that will always be about fluff, towing the party line and not talking about anything meaningful. Real journalists and professionals will actually hear a debate that includes diverse points of view and then counter back with intelligent questions. That is something that is obviously beyond their skill set. This is an adolescent tantrum and nothing more. Where are the real journalist? Where is the intelligent discussion? I would love to see some.
In short,Bill O'Reilly is a racist. He is part of the big problem in this country. His tirades and views are based on bigotry and are what is wrong in part with America today.With the Catholic upbringing and brainwashing from the church he has gotten during his life,this is just a prime example of what is also wrong with religion today.
My undies are in SUCH a BUNCH about Bill O'Reilly having the nerve to have an opinion different than mine, and all the rest of the girls. I'm glad there are braver, powerful gals like Joy and Whoopi around to stand up for the poor Muslims. Without heroes like them to defend them against swine like O'Reilly, WHAT other recourse would they have???!!! Thank you girls for making such a death defying defense of our relgious liberty.
Blah, blah, blah!... "The View" Not so much today. I can't stand whoopi, and her side kick Joy. They think they know it all, and "God for bid someone else's challenges their opinion about any topic specially politics." I felt they didn't give Bill O'Reilly the respect he deserved for being on the show. I'm not a Bill O'Reilly fan, but I'm not against listening to other peoples views on politics. I love a good debate, and it didn't happen on the view. "Anyways, don't expect me to watch the show again."
For two of the most opinionated women on TV to walk off the set of "The View" during an interview is irresponsible. They are in the opinion-business - every day we listen to their opinions! It is their job to listen to their guests views, even if they don't agree. Sometimes Bill O'Reilly is a "pinhead", but Whoppi and Joy's actions were immature. "If you can't stand the heat - stay out of the kitchen!"
Woopie's hair is HORRIBLE. Can she make herself any more unattractive?
How bout if we see a shot of you, buck?
Yo....everyone calm down. I was in 9/11, I live near ground zero and the Mosque....in the end, there is the right for that facility to be there. The rest of the extremeist in America can just butt out....its legal, local gov't has said so, If the right wing doesn't like it, remember – you can't control every aspect of American life, and much as you would like to. Remember seperation of Church and State??? Please, just leave us be.....
When you are dealing with someone like Bill O'Reilly you can not have a civil conversation, I can't blame Whoopi & Joy for leaving. The "Pinheads" who fear a Mosque near Ground Zero are showing an intolerance that has no place in our culture. I wish the top floor of the new World Trade Center would be built to contain a small Mosque, Synagogue, Buddhist Temple, Christian Church and a House of Worship for any other religion who lost members on 9/11 surrounding a community center where people of all beliefs can meet. Only then could healing begin in this country.
Bottom line: While O'Reilly is an idiot, or a 'Pinhead" in context, walking out on him was unprofessional and self-defeating. complaining about the building of an Islamic Center near ground zero can only attempt to be valid if there are equal complaints against Christan Centers near abortion clinics that have been bombed by Christian Fundamentalists, Churches near the site of the Atlanta Olympics, Churches near any site bombed by the Unabomber, etc. The only difference is the religion that the extremist was a member of.
The vitriol that is regularly spewed from O'Reilly and the rest of his ilk at Fox is hurting this country. I live 30 minutes from the remains of a Mosque which was burned down, 15 minutes from another Mosque which has been repeatedly defaced by graffiti, and for each offense some nutjob clams they are 'defending America from Islam' or 'protecting the USA from Sharia Law.'
O'Reilly's views are foolish, inflammatory, and he is of course completely aware of this. So long as he inspires reactions like walking off the stage of the hosts' own show, he is doing his job. He's a talking head who survives solely on fomenting controversy. If Goldberg and Behar wanted to actually negate any of his views, they should have stayed and rationally pointed out his stupidity. Their failure to do that, in the end, just served to propagate his opinions.
the ladies on the view are a liberal joke to television journalism. If they consider themselves journalists than that is an insult to all real journalists. When an opinion does not suit pinheads like Ms. Goldberg, or Ms. Behar, they do just like you saw, they turn tail and leave. Great job hosts of the view. This is why I don't watch and never will. I just laugh at you all when you frequently, frequent you-tube.
You've "never watched and never will" – and yet you talk as if you pretty much know all about the show & the hosts of the show. You're either a liar or an arrogant azz. Are we supposed to guess which one? What a hypocrite.
When Muslims stop saying the Crusades were attacks upon them by Christians, I will stop saying the New York attacks were attacks upon us by Muslims.
You've never even picked up a history book, right?
I am simply thrilled to see courageous women like Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg, valiantly stand up for freedom of religion. It isn['t every day that powerful women jeopardize their careers by standing up for Muslims in front of a national television audience. Completely ignoring any detrimental impact such a bold statement might have on their personal careers, these bold, liberal heroes are standing up for the timid Muslims who have no voice on the world's stage. Hoorah for feminine defenders of religious freedom. Hoorah for the liberal heroes!!
" The View " should be changed to "Our view" in lieu of this recent walkout by two hosts. This is the problem in this country, people no longer want to have candid conversations when they disagree with another's point of view or opinion. These hosts surround themselves with like minded audience members and cater to a select group viewers that really don't represent the mainstream point of view. I applaud Bill for expressing his views and supporting them with facts.
Why don't Joy, Whoopi build it next to their house its only three thousand miles away, close enough to be understanding, yet far enough not to affend.
looloo....get your head out of your colon first, maybe that way you'll live long enough to see the next decade. Here we go again about "the inside job." Humpty Dumpty didn't fall down, he was pused. Same mental difference.
When you are dealing with someone like Bill O'Reilly you can not have a civil conversation, I can't blame Whoopi & Joy for leaving . The "Pinheads" who fear a Mosque near Ground Zero are showing an intolerance that has no place in our culture. I wish the top floor of the new World Trade Center would be built to contain a small Mosque, Synagogue, Buddest Temple, Christian Church and a House of Worship for any other religion who lost members on 9/11 surrounding a community center where people of all beliefs can meet. Only then could healing begin in this country.
Did the other hosts or producers address the unprofessional behavior?
A guest is invited on the show... You disagree with his opinion ,so as the HOST you walk off the show...
Interesting display of intellect and tolerance. I do not watch Bill O'Rielly but maybe I should if these are the people discussing social issues to an audience (it seemed to lack true discussion).
Yep – if you want to see a host who is consistently intolerant (and loud) to guests who disagree with him – and the rudest person on television – watch bill... it's amazing...
Call Bill what you like but this incident gave him more publicity for his book than if they would have stayed on stage. They unwillingly did him a favor.
Might be somewhat true, Ken – but sometimes the old gag reflex just can't be controlled...................
As a canadian I AM SHOCKED to hear half the remarks that come out of some individuals in the States. So much for being a nation that is tolerant of others when generalizations such as these are made about Muslims!
That Bill guy is not only wack, but speaks like a redneck that's been stuck in the south for too long! IDIOT! What Whoopi & Joy did, was an act of courage to many of us around the world who saw this, WHY?
Because they refused to listen to the intolerance and biased remarks coming out of BIll O'Reilly!
I understand their reaction, but wish they would not have stooped to O'Reilly's level and childishly let emotions control them. He rants and raves, as is his right to do, but on a world wide medium. People listen and believe his nonsense. It is sad that he is perceived as a representative for American beliefs.
If you want to make the comparisons then try this....if all Muslims are like 9/11 terrorists, that all Christians are like the Westboro Baptist Church nutcases. Is that what we do in this country? Paint everyone with the same brushstroke to make it easy? We do not have to bother thinking or getting to know anyone if we do so - but personally, I prefer to know people for the individuals they are, not totally by what label someone put on them or even what group they belong to or have an association with, no matter how broad.
What if we looked at ourselves and who we associate with - from our family members (and who does not have some wacky relative in their tree - do you want to be known as someone like them because you are related?) Perhaps you with a jerk - should you be labeled as such? If you are Catholic, you must be a pedophile because some in your religion are? Really?
People need to wake up to the hate mongerers in the world from ALL and not let them dictate to the rest of us...otherwise, we are going to have another Hilter on our hands - someone who convinces the masses to hate others so much that they become violent.
Oh, we have that already, it's anit-gay, anti-Muslic, anti-ethnic....need I say more?
The women of the View are Pin Heads except Elizabeth. No fair and balanced on the View!!!
except Elizabeth............ gee, how unbiased of you.... what a joke.
Don't you just love people who use polls as a basis for arguments and talking points..........Same people belive in the tooth fairy, santa and the easter bunny.....
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While I am not in the business of demeaning or insulting an entire religion, but the number or percentage of Muslim extremists is increasing every day. This means that if they continue becoming extremists at the rate they have been so far, then soon the majority of Muslims will be extremists. And while I am all for freedom of religion, Muslims are still responsible for the largest attack on US soil since Pearl Harbor and that should not be taken lightly. Therefore, if they want to build a community center, go ahead, by all means, build away, but don’t do it anywhere near the sight of such a horrific event that was caused by MUSLIMS!
There was a mosque IN the world trade center... Bill is a buffoon.
That O'Reilly is a paid propagandizing shameless immoral right wing shill is well known. What is surprising is that he'd be dumb enough to think he could spew out his nonsense to a group of people with a clue who can't be brow beaten into submission and get away with it. It's not your dirty little set up show, blowhard! What a goof.
The gals sure can turn up the fire when they want to roast someone, but can't take the heat when it's turned on them. These two are intellectual duds.
Bobby Kennedy, 72 Munich Olympics, 79 Iran Embassy takeover, 83 Marine barracks in Beirut, 85 Achille Lauro, 85 TWA Flight 847, 88 Pan Am Flight 103, 93 WTC bombing, 98 Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings, 9/11/01. No Muslums involved in any of those...
Does anyone care what Whoopie or Joy think? They aren't adult enough to even debate a subject like an adult. Who watches weekday morning televison anyway?
Well, let's see... did 55 year old Norwegian women hi-jack the planes on 9/11....Noooo. Did 40 year old Jewish business men hi-jack the planes on 9/11....Noooo. If you take off your Politically Correct glasses, it was young Muslim men! That's just a fact. So now let's put an Islamic Center near the 9/11 site. That's a good idea? That will make people feel good? Yeah, right.
The VIEW sucks. Whoopi is the biggest bigot there is out there.
Loss of public civility for the sake of ... ratings ?.
Tim McVeigh did not blow up the fed building on OK City in the name of Jesus. The extremists who crashed planes on 9/11 did in fact do it in the name of Allah. That is a key difference. Now, I consider myself to be fairly liberal, and as much of a fool as O'Reilly is, he is technically correct. Was it necessary for him to deliberately cause an uproar like that, given his audience on The View? No. He does pick fights. However, he has a right to his opinion that the center should not be built by Ground Zero. Do I agree with him? No, but the only thing he can be faulted for is deliberately inciting anger. He is pretty self-aware.
I lump democrats, liberals, muslums, christians, mormans, jews, and scientologists all into one group that the planet would better without. Just think how nice the world would be if they all vanished tomorrow!
This obviously was planned for a ratings boast – lol. The only comment, other than that, is Whoopie and Joy need to go on a serious diet.
The real problem is that this doofus, O'Reilly, gets national attention (and $$) for blurting out whatever hateful spew he suspects will bring our darkest side to the forefront.
The View is such a trivial piece of television trash. Who cares what Joy and Whoopi do? They're totally irrelevant.
Look if you’re a Muslim living in the United States then you’re not a true Muslim so stop pretending to be one! We (Americans) are the infidel along with all the other western civilized countries so how can you possibly live in our country if you are 100% Muslim? I was in Iraq and know what a true Muslim looks and acts like. I think Muslims are like Nazis. If you hear some one referred to as a Nazis it's bad... same thing as Muslims!
So who killed whom on 9/11. The gang was all male and several of them citizens of Saudi Arabia. All of them had parents. Weren't they a collection of deranged individuals brought together by a criminal mastermind?
this just shows how left-winged hollywood really is. have some class ladies, we listen to your views why not listen to the views of the people? oh yea thats right the everyday person doesnt matter to you!!!
The ones left on the couch were Barbara Walters, this is her show, I understand. The other two were Sherri Sheperd, the one who thinks the world is flat and Elizabeth Hasselbeck who rivals Sherri in the IQ department. I think that when you see who was left on the couch, it says it all! Good for Joy and Whoopi.
O'Reilly may have worded his statement wrong, but he's right about the mosque. There is a great video by a British man, Pat Condell, that may give you a different view if you are in favor of the mosque being built in NYC. Here is the link:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/06/pat-condell-on-ground-zero-mosque-is-it-possible-to-be-astonished-but-not-surprised.html
Why do people have such a hard time with the facts? We were attacked by Muslim fanatics on 9/11 and we are at war with them (their decision not ours) and they are coming for us as we speak, calling it a “event” is sad display of where our country has come to, appeasement went out the window with Europe in the 1930’s, we need to stand up for our country and quit thinking that this will not happen again, do you need a mushroom cloud over a major city in America to get the government to defend our citizens? (This is the number one job they are supposed to do)
I would like to see them discuss human rights with these peaceful religions (not to mention women’s rights) and see how that “event” goes, I would guess by their behavior in America, a death sentence wouldn’t be out of the question if they were in those countries today.
(Those that do not heed the lessons of history are bound to repeat them)
Oh, for Pete's sake. . . the walk-out was STAGED! I think Joy and Whoopi decided beforehand that if O'Reilly said anything outrageous (and he always does) that they would walk out. . . GREAT FOR RATINGS! But it does make Whoopi and Joy look like little 5-year-olds throwing temper tantrums. AMUSING. . . and I'd say O'Reilly's having a good laugh over it, too! LMAO!
What do you think? Did the ladies overreact, or was Bill O'Reilly wrong in not talking about Muslim extremists?
"Wrong", very subjective way to poise the question. However, I will give to the point that Bill should have been more specific in his reply since he does hold himself out to be the word mister. The "ladies", as you call them, always overreact concerning issue they don't agree wth.
As always lost in this discussion, is the differnce in the "rights" of the issue. Of course, the builders of the mosque has the legal "right" (apparently) to build this mosque. However, is it the "right" thing to do. The patriots in all of this are the soldiers and public service people who daily provide all the pinheads the safety to be able to have a show like The View and The O'Reilly Factor.
Personally, I feel the mosque should not be built, the View cast should grow up and at least act like adults and O'Reilly should choose his words better so he does not alienate people whom he probably could influence if they did not overract.
Why do we have to show our tails in everything that we do. Be professional and I know that's asking a ot of anyone in hollywood, but come on. Your job is to interveiw the guests, put your personal feelings on a back burner and do your job. If you cn't handle it, then someone else needs to be doing the job. A prime example of media bias, unprofessionalism, and direlection of responsibilities.
@Lewis - Way to misquote the Qur'an. Was that intentional? Or just ignorance:
@Lewis misquoted: "Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2"
Actually, if you read the previous passage, it says "Fight in the way of Allah those who fight you but DO NOT TRANSGRESS". Which means 2:191-2 is talking about those who fight you first. It's talking about self-defense.
@Lewis misquoted: "The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers. 2:254"
Interesting that you omitted the first part of that verse: "O you who have believed, spend from that which We have provided for you before there comes a Day in which there is no exchange and no friendship and no intercession." It's saying that you (Muslims) should extend peace and friendship (to disbelievers) until they refuse your friendship.
@Lewis misquoted: "Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. 3:118"
Actually, you're reading an out-of-context interpreted version of that passage. It's talking again about those who have demonstrated that they're against you. It's talking about self-defense to preserve one's beliefs.
@Lewis misquoted: "We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151"
Look back a couple of verses. It's talking about if you obey those who disbelieve, and cautioning that they'll turn their back on you, but that Allah will protect you and will cast down those who have associated with Allah things he never said. Basically, he's saying such people will be damned to hell. This is pretty much the same thing the Christian God warns everybody about. Remember the first "Commandment"?
@Lewis misquoted: "Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74"
Oh stop it. It doesn't say "religious wars". That's a modern construct. It says that if you fight it the name of Allah and you're killed in battle, he'll reward you for your loyalty. Big deal. That's what the Christian God promises, too.
@Lewis misquote: "The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101"
Try reading the whole verse. It's talking about if you're traveling, it's ok to shorten your prayer time because disbelievers may want to hurt you. Again, it's self-defensive.
Why promote all this misinformation?
It's all right here: http://quran.com
Take some time to read and discover that all this BS you're spewing is ignorant fear-mongering. And if ignorant paranoid terrorists use this crap to justify their heinous actions, that doesn't mean they represent the views of Islam.
Matt raised an interesting point. He said
"Don't be a moron. If I say seaguls crapped on my car today does that mean I'm implying that every seagul in the world is responsible for it? No it just means that more than 1 seaguls crapped on my car. In exactly the same way when I say Muslims destroyed the twin towers it simply implies that more than 1 Muslim destroyed the twin towers. Some people just love to find a way to be offended."
His reference to seagulls is directed specifically at those seagulls that crapped on his car. So, by extension, by saying muslims should not build this center close to the WTC site because of the actions of muslims who brought down the WYC, he must be referring to the muslims who specifically were involved in the events of 9/11. Well I have good news, it is not the muslims who were involved in the 9/11 who are planning to build the center, it is other muslims, so no problem. Go ahead and build!
So in other words, using this anology, all priest are pedifiles, correct?
Bill O'Reilly is a turd. Enough said. His sorry old shtick is old and tired. He tries to talk to people he can look more intelligent than so he can enhance his persona as an intellectual.
Whoopi is a cow!
Sure, it was Muslim extremists who plotted, funded, and executed 9/11. I'd be surprised if the total number directly involved exceeded 100. But it was millions of ordinary Muslims who danced in the streets around the world when they heard the news. And that, ladies and gentlemen, is why America needs to wake up to the fact that Muslims have declared war against the U.S. and why they have proposed building a monument to their victory so close to the New World Trade Centers. They said very clearly and repeatedly that they would use our own laws and our own freedoms against us – and this is yet another example.
Joy Behar did that as a publicity stunt. She wants people to watch her HLN show. Anyone who takes the women of the view serious really needs to get a grip. Joy is a loud mouth that does not respect her guests and Whoopi is really funny, she should stick to comedy. The name of the show is a joke! The View? Really? Who's view?
Bill O'Reilly is an extremist and a provocateur. He knew perfectly well what he was saying.
This country is looking more and more like Germany in the 1930's. Demeaning whole religions, so-called "grassroots" extremists, intolerance, propaganda media disguised as fair and balanced news spouting half-truths, cherry-picked examples, and out-right lies, book burners, racists, and down-right loonie ideas.
We are doomed.
And we need to member that christians invaded iraq and have killed 10s upon 10s of thousands of civilians. Using O'reilly's logic, then the entire nation of America and all christians around the world are extremeist. We all know know that lies were told get support for the invasion of the middle east. Bush never cared to geT Bin laden. Who really is the bad guy herE?
I use to love O'Rilly but now I think he is an extremist himself. Just making himself look like a idiot.
I don't think it was out of line for them to walk off but I also believe they could have stayed and made a stronger impact by shifting the conversation to make their point(s). Bill O'Reilly makes a living on being inflammatory and derogatory to others that are not in line with his ridiculous set of morals, ethics and values. Which, I'd like to add, are very narrow minded and based on ignorance much of the time. Every now and again he makes a good point but, unfortunately, it's not often.
PS It doesn't matter "why" someone kills another person. The reason is irrelevant. The act of harming and/or killing others is NEVER justifiable. Religious affiliation or not, killing is just wrong. PERIOD!
Seems to me you're all getting away from the point. This isn't a battle about Christians vs. Muslims. It is about whether the Mosque should be placed near Ground Zero. The point has been made many times that they CAN but SHOULD they? If the roles were reversed, I am sure they would not want Americans building a Christian church near their "sacred" ground. Anyone who watches O'Reilly knows that he makes great effort to discuss both points of view on a subject. He usually leaves it up to the television audience to draw their own conclusions, in the end. As people stated above, it WAS the Muslims who were responsible for the dastardly act. It goes without saying that most intelligent people realize it was not ALL of the Muslims.( I like the seagull analogy above.) These people are looking for a red herring and just want to be offended. I am sure that if Joy or Goldie had had loved ones in the tower that day, they might not be so eager to defend said "Muslims." The whole point is that they could build their Mosque anywhere; why make it such a slap in the face and such an explicit reminder for those whose loved ones did perish in 911. It is just inappropriate and the fact that they can't see that shows the depth of their respect for those affected and all Americans.
Wow, okay people he wasn't wrong. Clearly he didn't say: "well, we are at war with Islam right now so...that's why." He said Muslims killed us on 9/11 (which actually makes no sense) but anyway, Al Qaeda and the hijackers were Muslim. They attacked America in the name of Islam, used the religion as a fuel for their support and justified theologically. How is he wrong in pointing out the fact that they were Muslim? Yes, extremists, but extremist what?
I actually support the cultural center (not really a mosque) but why do left wingers want to deny that the attackers were Muslim? THEY WERE. It doesn't mean he's saying we're "at war" with Islam.
No wonder I have never had any desires to watch this stupid show involving people like Whooopido and that other one. What a waste of air time. Both airheads walk off simply because they dont agree with another person's opinion. Instead of conftronting the individual and discussing the issue which is what the show is about, they walk off like a couple of pinheads as Bill would put it. What a weak show. Here's a suggestion for both, get a grip on life, have a hormone shake instead of acting like 2 year olds. If you're gonna walk off, STAY OFF maybe the show will get better ratings.
The perpetrators and planners of the 9/11 attacks did all happen to be Muslim and they claimed their atrocity of justifiable in the name of Islam. Their targets were chosen as symbolic representatives of the enemy of Islam the “Great Satan” the United States of America. Acts as atrocious as this as well as other acts of terrorism are usually perpetrated under the direction and planning of a larger representative collective group who share the same belief.
If the perpetrators instead are a minority view of the larger representative group, the authoritative figures and leaders of the group are quick to condemn such actions as nonconforming and not representative of the group’s beliefs. What is debatable and adds to this particular incident is the response from Muslim countries and Islamic leaders to the 9/11 attacks. I remember the Muslim and Islamic leadership response to the atrocity mixed. The Islamic leadership were not unified or even close to giving a unified condemnation of the 9/11 attacks. While many Muslims are at peace with the United States, just as many are also at war with the United States. It is fair and accurate to recognize that a large segment of the Islamic world has unilaterally declared the United States as their enemy. With such a large segment of the Islamic world embracing and recognizing the U.S. as their enemy, it is not without cause or rebuttal to reject the proposed Islamic Center as a natural defensive response.
Most everybody has the capacity to forgive, but the natural process of healing should be allotted ample time. The Islamic Center has not extended to the families of those killed or the people of this nation enough healing time. Because the healing process is not complete or near to completion, the proposed center is perceived as inconsiderate and inappropriate at this time. Maybe later, but for now, it is too early.
Nice marketing stunt for both 'The View' and 'O'Reilly
Bill O'Reilly is right. Each one of those 9/11 terrorists and the people who admitted to organizing it are all Muslims. Now if he had said "Islam" instead of "Muslims" then that would be wrong.
ah did i say something cnn doesnt ;like, your just as pathetic as behar
if Oreilly can keep Behar off that show i'd watch it, her 150 viewers must love her today, what a pathetic waste of human flesh
It's pinheads like O'Reilly who help perpetuate hate towards Muslims. As you can see from posts here and elsewhere there are many people who don't even realize that some Muslims' ancestors came to this country several generations ago and they are Americans too. They also think that there's no possible way they are building this Islamic Center in an area of Manhattan where there are Muslims who will benefit from having not only the center, but a place close to work where they can pray. If Catholicism required prayer 5 times a day (and the cleansing ritual prior thereto), wouldn't Catholics want a place close by where they can wash and pray?
Keep walking!!!!!!
There is no greater threat to America's long-term prosperity than Fox News Channel.
It would have been better IF the hosts would have asked him to clarify his statement rather than fly on to the defensive and walk off the stage....give me a break! They always blame George W for everything that has happened to our economy....really....we were headed for a train wreck before he was even in office. 9/11 was planned way before he took office also. Did Muslims cause 9/11...true statement. But they were extremist......did the old ladies of the View allow him to clarify NO. Absolutely build another mosque but out of respect for your fellow Americans who lost loved ones can we pick a more appropriate place to build it....does it HAVE to be AT Ground Zero....REALLY????>>>>
O'reilley...open mouth...insert foot. Fool.
Very open minded of them to walk off when they disagree with someone's comment...
Why would anybody watch this show in the first place?
Goldberg and Behar are pitiful fools. Bill O'Reilly was their GUEST. If they didn't walk to talk to him, or if they don't support the same things that he supports, then he shouldn't have been INVITED to be a GUEST on their show. Their actions were simply petty and childish. "Please come on our show. But if we don't approve of what you say, then we're taking our toys and going home."
Give me a break. Whoopi and Joy, be adults for once instead of spoiled rich brats. The world doesn't revolve around you, and your own opinions aren't automatically correct or worthy of increased consideration just because of your celebrity (infamy?)!
The wealthiest 1% of Americans make all of the decision for the country with the interest of becoming richer. Politicians have been bought off. They use Religion and petty differences like this to distract the public. The Rich have convinced the under educated people of this nation to join there side using religion, guns, abortion, hate, and fear. When is America going to move on from these issues and start progressing? It is interesting to watch other countries news stations. They talk about things that matter. How the country is going to be healthier and happier. I spent a year away from this country it made me realize we are a depressed, out of shape nation there cares about useless stuff. Don’t give OReilly the time of day.
Bill O'Reilly is highly paid to talk like a nazi and get everyone riled. Don't give him your time and energy people!
This is why I agree to some extent with Bill. On 9/11 Muslim countries had people celebrating in the streets. After 9/11 Datelin did a segment with Muslin teens who pretty much said America deserved it. Muslim churches are used to recruit troops for their holy war. I find it very hard to side with Muslims especially when they have so very little respect for women. I am also concerned by some of the writings of you know who whose name I can't mention because I might be killed. No mosque!
Though I subscribe to some of his ideas and beliefs - like I really really don't like Muslims, I think he is a big big loser. A man of no intellect who has back-stabbed and defamed the good names of many people to get to the top. He represents the worst of America. "I say what I say, I don't even have to be completely factual" - to him, his opinion is fact. Quite the waste of life there...
Would he be offended if someone said "the Christians killed millions of Jews in WWII".
All faiths can be a platform for manipulation and all faiths have followers who will, can be, and are manipulated and commit devastating acts...but, the bottom line is, religions themselves don't kill people. People kill people.
They could build their mosque anywhere else, the only reason they insist on this site is jusft to kick sand in our faces. They murdered 3000 American citizens and now they want to rub our faces in it. Nobody respects us anymore because we are trying to appease everyone and want everyone to like us and show everyone how understanding we are. We need to put on our big boy pants and have countries fear us again.
I agree with the protest made by Joy and Whoopi. Someone has to stand up against calling all Muslims terrorists and murderers just because of the few Muslims who were involved in 9/11. People of all faiths have committed terrorist-like acts. The Spanish Inquisition, the Christians who supported Hitler, are a few examples> WE ALL HAVE falledn short of the glory of God.
He knows damn well what he is saying.
Here is a list of the 9/11 attackers who were NOT Muslim:
Why does anyone care about Bill O'Reilly, a washed up movie actress and a comedian who isn't funny? Are you kidding me? The View is a completely STUPID show. Why does anyone in this country really care about what the washed up actress (Whoopi Goldberg), the comedian who isn't funny (Joy Behar), a former news woman(Barbara Walters), a former Survivor contestant (Elisabeth Hasselbeck) and Sherry Sheppard (not even sure where she came from) and their guests even think about politics or anything else? How do these five "catty" women who continuously talk over each other even become relevant? People... please... we have so many more important things in our world. We have young men and women dying in the name of our country to defend us and shouldn't be. We have homeless people who shouldn't be homeless. We have people who are sick and hungry in our world and shouldn't be either. Come on people... get over these irrelevant people and turn your attention to things that REALLY matter!
muslims for the most part through history have been killing anyone who doesnt think the way they think trust them if you will you will die with them in there suicide bombings in the end
I'm very surprised that Whoopi acted the way she did, unlike her, I expect this from Joy. This incident proves that when someone doesn't agree with the extreme leftist they run away from the issue, because they are unable to deal with anyone that has a different opinion. Democrats in general are the least inclusive group in the country today, they incite the racism and intolerance. They view ANYBODY that disagrees with their agenda as the enemy. The republicans are the party that was first against slavery, read your history books, do some f'in research. I'm a puerto rican man that feels very included around republicans but very uncomfortable around democrats due to the fact that most democrats feel ALL minorities should be on welfare living off the government. You democrats talk of religious freedom, yet you only talk of this when it comes to a fringe religion, you have no time for Christians and view them as crackpots. Yes, Christians have wronged many people over the years, so has EVERY religion, or should I say, extremist in said religions. When people talk about the atrocities performed by Christians in the middle ages, they never say extremists. When people talk about priests molesting boys they don't call them extremists, they call them catholics. Democrats are the first to throw a stone but they call anyone who throws it back a racist or an uncle tom, or just plain crazy. Take a look in the mirror sometime lefty and realize this, in the end we all lost freedoms on 9/11, this was due to a bunch of cowardly individuals that claim muslim as their religion. I don't think an islamic center should be built there, I also don't think a church should be built there, something to symbolize America would be nice, not sure what that could be but anything doing with religion is too divisive and as a country we need something that ALL AMERICANS can stand behind.
Is it not true that the Koran requires that an IMAM or Caliph be at the head of the government? It also true that this book requires that all infidels Christian and their ilk) be killed. No other religion has jihads and fatwas where the religious leaders can put bounties on peoples heads if they are murdered. Iran is a true Muslim state and one for which ALL Muslims must strive. This is inherently incompatible with our form of government. One day I expect them to all rise up and start a Crusade against the non-Muslim population. The WTC was just a warning shot.
The huge difference is that the 9/11 murderers killed people because of their religion, and McVeigh killed people mainly because he hated the government, and he happened to be 'Christian,' but really, in name only because he was absolutely no christian. The 9/11 murderers killed people in the name of Allah, and did so because they felt their religion told them to. A very large portion of the muslim world, a vast majority of the middle east, has declared war/jihad on us because of their religion! So yes, it is absolutely ok for Reilly to say that muslims killed us on 9/11.
It sickens me to see so many people on this thread comparing the Oklahoma City bombing to 9/11. If you think they're similar, you're way off base. Thousands of Muslims were dancing and rejoicing in the streets on 9/11. McVeigh did not bomb the Murrah Building in the name of Christ or Christianity, and there sure weren't Christians dancing in the streets when it happened. Open your eyes, people. Thousands, possibly millions, of Muslims have declared jihad against our country. It's not just a "few extremists" as so many are incorrectly stating.
Guys, you're missing a whole point here. O’Reilly is 100% right saying that muslims attacked us on 9/11. That attack was based entirely on hate of people of muslim religion to our life style, ideology, and foreign policy. McVeigh was a Christian and his attack wasn't based on his religious beliefs, he had other issues. Stop being politically correct and face the facts! Not all muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are ...(make a guess)
First understand that most of the worlds bombings are from extremist "Muslims". Putting a Mosque is their way of showing off another conquered place. Their "religion" also tells them to lie to the infidels, us, and advocate killing the infidells. So explain to me why we should even consider allowing this to be built there. What about the Mosque not far away, isn't that enough? Check out some of the Brittish news concerning their problems with the growing numbers of Muslims living there and what their country is becomming. People need to open your eyes and see what is happening around the world. Those in Europe are having a time right now waiting for another attack which they were told is coming, Muslims.
They are so stupid they walk out on their own show? If they were serious, they would made him leave. Why didn't they do that? He bumps their low ratings. These bimbos are just looking for higher ratings from the parks (trailer).
Why does ANYONE watch that show? Babs is the only one with a brain. But, the truth is just that. Bill Spoke what most people to be true. Muslim's extremist killed THOUSANDS of Americans.....sorry whoopi, time for you and Ted Danson to get back together!
Bill O'Reilly said exactly what he and what the scores of "conservative patriots" mean when they refer to 911 and Muslims. They don't really care that it was radical extremists, they were Muslim. You see whether a bigot uses a classifier like "radical" or "extremist" or "illegal" or "criminal" when they refer to a group of people by an identifier that serves to identify an entire sub-population of people the way race, religion, or immigration status do, does not make what they are saying any less bigoted. What the media has allowed is for such classifiers to make HATE speech acceptable in venues where 10 years ago it would not have been. Allowing someone to foment hate using the term Muslim Extremist, is no better and no less violence inciting than when the KKK enjoyed a socially accepted media spotlight in the late 1800s and early 1900s. It might make for good ratings, but it is just wrong.
Real mature, all the way around.
First, McVeigh was an avowed ethiast, The christian label was a left wing invention.
Of course this has nothing to do with the subject at hand. Behar and the woopster suffer from a grave mental problem most liberals suffer from, truth denial. I would say they should seek help. But its so much fun to watch and listen to grownups swear the sky is green with red stripes and get very hostile when you tell them its blue.
Liberals in Hollywood again prove they are out of touch with mainstream America.
Whoopi and Joy are unprofessional, they walked off the job so fire them. No intelligenct diagloue there. Infact lets just cancel the show. This show is embarrassing. Can't watch. Lost a view here.
Bill came off looking worst in this exchange. He showed that he is a man devoid of nuance and thoughfulness.
Reilly was right...understanding they were extremists, it is still wrong...and of UTTER disrespect to Americans...those here today and those who lost their lives because of the attacks.
I love how these broads grill people like they are the holy way, then when someone says something they don't like they have to walk away because they don't agree. What a bunch of crap. These shows do nothing for society except make us weaker and entertain the ignorant side of those who waste their time watching. I cant stand Bill O'rielly, but these chicks are just as bad, you invited him now deal with him. Chicken sh–s. take this waste of time show off the air NOW!!!
people grow up this is Americia, and we can speak our minds, good for bill, i am soooo tired of people complaining that we shouldnt say this and shouldnt say that i have a biracial son, whos father is a muslim, he dont care and neither do i, stop trying to make the world like or love us, you dont like it, get the hell out, i so sick of this, go somewhere else and see if you have the freedom like you do here, pull it up and suck it up, stop crying, it aint gonna effect you, and if it do, oh well, alot of thing make us mad and we cant change it, the view are a bunch of dumb broads that includes sheeri or whatever that fat girl name is, see i called her fat, that diddnt hurt now did it
If Muslims didn't kill the Americans, who did? Get real they did it and if you can't accept it then you too should leave the USA and go live them in their world!
I'm afraid 9/11 has changed the U.S.A for good. This is exactly what the folks who planned and executed 9/11 wanted – to start throwing our freedom out the window. Today it’s “no you can’t build a Mosque there”. I wonder what it will be tomorrow. Really sad!
Problem #1, acknowledging Bill O'Reilly as a source of any kind of political information and then giving him more air time to spout his hate speech.
If the rest of the Muslim world would like to prove that they had no involvment in the 9/11 attacks then stop helping the terrorists hide and give them up which would go alot futher in stating that it was terrorists and not Muslims that executed the attack. Keep in mind the terrorists are hiding in predominently Islamic states. Give them up tell everyone where they are hiding and I think most people would then see that it was a group of terrorists and not a religeous group that executed 9/11.
hey, all of you try this on for size: what if the rest of the world looked at christianity the way we look at muslims. It is just as fair to call all muslims evil and violent as it is to call all christians child molesters. doesn't feel too good, does it?
there are many different sects of islam, just like christianity. if you are going to hate something, do a little research first.
nothing is more annoying than idiots running their ignorant mouths
TOO MANY IGNORANT PEOPLE HERE
ALL EXTREMISM IS WRONG NO MATTER WHAT RELIGION YOU FOLLOW
LET THEM BUILD THE MOSQUE-SINCE WHEN ARE AMERICANS AFRAID OF A HOUSE OF WORSHIP?
BILL OREILY IS A HYPOCRITE-A LIAR AND REMEMBER THIS-HE'S ONLY A TALKING HEAD ON TV
THANK GOD HE CAN'T GET ELECTED TO ANYTHING
THAT WOULD BE DANGEROUS.......
I think Whoopi and Joy are very unprofessional. I find that behavior typical of them. They don't agree and get mad and so they take their toys and go home. I don't necessarily agree with Bill O'Reilly however if you are a host on a TALK show you should probably stay and TALK. My job is in customer service and I get people yelling at me all day long. I have to take it because it is my job. Hmm..maybe Whoopi and Joy should try working in a call center. Might be an enlightening experience for them.
When you say Mexicans are crossing into America illegally it doesn't mean EVERY SINGLE Mexican is crossing into America. When Bill Reilly says "Muslims killed us on 911" it also doesn't mean the ENTIRE Muslim community killed us....but what he said is in fact TRUE.....Muslims did kill people on 911.
Read the Quaran... Educate yourselves! Then make your own intelligent decision on Muslims and the Nation of Islam and how its governance model will play into your life as am american! Bill was wrong to include all Muslims but not far from it!!
Yikes! After reading posts as things build up to the election, I'm reading the thoughts from some people who never spoke up till recently. Sara Paliin has given some folks a newfound sense of confidence. This has got to lead to a class war. If, for example, the Dems perform significantly better than predicted and hold the House, this could trigger a social wind storm.
Could be like Pol Pot's Cambodia. Better not let anybody know you are aware of Africa being a continent of why there's a North and South Korea!
Baba-booey! Tata-toothy! Rara-retard! Mama- monkey!
demo libs on the program walking off? i'm not surprised. they are not americans. they just live here enjoying the benefits. they probably believe the usa govt ran planes into the twin towers also. mohams use mosques as a planning office for the spread of their govt/relig. they are buying a piece of the usa everytime they put up a mosque. they wait until they get a high population and then they start their fighting. no moderate mohams try to stop them so they are part of the problem to.
Why is everything freaking out? Muslims DID kill us...? Extreme Muslims but yeah, they did. And everyone in the WORLD knows this. People are so sensitive these days... Oh because O'Riely wasn't "politically correct"...? Grow up people and stop being so BLIND to what's happening in this world. Because someone disagrees with you, you have to freak out, yet we have freedom of speech and he can say whatever he wants! Whoppi and Joy were very immature to get up and walk away. Hey girls- people would probably respect you more if you knew how to act like adult... and not walk away when you hear something you don't like.. Sheesh... GO O'RIELY!
For all of you trying to discount the comparison of 9/11 to OK City bombing... you should consider the fact that yes McVeigh may not have been directly acting in the name of Christianity and it's God, but he sure was following along with the ideas of many before him (William Luther Pierce and The Turner Diaries) who wanted to take down the American government and wipe out Jews and all non-whites from the face of the Earth. I'm pretty sure if you replaced non-Muslims over "non-whites" in the last sentence, that would have been the same objective as those who carried out 9/11. So stop agreeing with bigotry and hatred- there are extremes in every culture and belief system. Those of you who like to think only Muslims kill for religion are either mentally incompetent, completely oblivious to your own complete hypocrisy, or legally insane.
Some people are so blinded that they are convinced that they and their group are the good ones. No group comes close to having it perfectly correct. Why hate an entire other group based on often biased and prejudiced information when you and your group are far from perfect? (That question is posed to anyone and everyone reading this)
Well, intelligent people can sit and discuss an issue without storming off like little children.... Those women should be glad they don't work for me; because they wouldn't after that.
Baba-booey!
it would be one thing if 9/11 was an isolated incident. but when thousands of terreorist attacks have been carried out in the name of Islam, and entire countries (Lebanon, Iran, ect) are devoted to the destruction of western society and/or Israel, it begins to brand itself as a violent threat. i don't see any real movement on behalf of the Muslim world to dennounce Jihad or become more accepting of the Jewish nation.
O'Reilly is a divisive fool who incites other fools to hate.
This becomes a problem when people think with emotions and forget logic. Do mean or thoughtless people need to be muzzled? What country does that? Not the America I know. Instead of getting all EMO about the issue, state the facts fairly so people can decide for themselves. Those who walked out appeared to have no logical leg to stand on so they got angry. That is not the way a productive political discussion should be conducted. No one learned anything from it except that they cannot speak their opinions to the two walkouts without an explosion of some type. I’ve enjoyed Whoopi’s talent for many years and I’m still a fan but if I ever meet her I’ll hide from politics when talking to her. I had to Google Joy Behar to know who she was but I think this is a talk show stunt anyway. Should boast ratings and help sell O’Riley’s book.
Incidentally, I found a more complete clip on YouTube. Barbara was, as always professional. I guess I have to remember the other two are not journalist.
I'm sick of the whole PC crap. Whoopie and Joy are hypocrites. They want to be able to say anything they want about anyone, but let anyone else practice free speech and they throw a fit. Bill O'Reilly is right. Muslims did kill citizens at ground zero and should not build there out of respect for the victims and their families.
Losers. They can't handle other opinions other than their own. Two BS liberals who cry TOLERANCE then aren't big enough to listen to someone else. High School girls, that's what they are. They are both has-beens anyway, the View is the only gig they can get.
Who gives a rats ass what that knothead oreily (oreally) says
All the Irish are a bunch of drunks anyway, So what does he know
We cant lump all stupid people together regardless what religion they follow
Actually, I can't believe I'm saying this but I have no problem with what he said. He wasn't given enough time, or a chance, to clarify and Whoopi and Joy overreacted.
I don't believe a Mosque (because lets face it, thats what it is. Even the builders admit that a Mosque will be built in the building), should be built near ground zero. But then, I don't believe any religious building should be nearby.
Its disrespectful to those who died. The area should remain a monument to the dead OR the towers should be rebuilt.
Allowing a Mosque to be built on ground zero insults those who died because it says "this religion is acceptable here but others aren't even though those that killed these people were Muslim".
Keep the area for all intents and purposes, hallowed ground. Meaning, nothing of any religious sort should be built there. Make a monument to the dead out of respect for what they, and the country, suffered.
What a couple of losers!
it would be one thing if 9/11 was an isolated incident. but when thousands of terreorist attacks have been carried out in the name of Islam, and entire countries are devoted to the destruction of western society and Israel, it begins to brand itself as a violent threat. i don't see any real movement on behalf of the Muslim world to dennounce Jihad or become more accepting of the Jewish nation.
Bill O'Reilly is a jerk anyways....how can anyone sit there and listen to that man talk. I'm glad they walked out......
CNN Sucks!!!!
Mr. O'Reilly is a self absorbed bs artist who is a Republican that masquerades as an Independent. He is consistently extreme right on political issues despite touting his "Fair and Balanced" point of view. The fact that he is opposed to the construction of the muslim mosque in NYC and that he failed to make the distinction between Muslims and Muslim extremists comes as no surprise given his own self-righteousness and over inflated ego.
Whats with all the islamic apologists? No one gets offended when someone says "The Nazis killed the jews". Not all Nazis thought the jews were bad. Very few of them actually wanted all the jews murdered. People around CNN seem to be champions of muslims, like they were mentally challenged children who need others to defend them... poor muslims they get such a bad rap cause every islamic nation in the world is a totalitarian sh!thole that murders its own citizens for not being muslims. Cause hey, its a religion of peace lol A peace built upon the bones and bodies of all the infidels they've murdered.
Building there is a claim to victory in battle.
Check it out.
They are making a statement.
I think Bill has a right to HIS free speech and HIS opinion. Quit snuffing out anyone who is not muslim.
GAG ME!!!
First, let me say that I frequently disagree with Bill O'Reilly as well as many of his Fox News colleagues. I find him interesting to listen to and at times even entertaining, but am on the more liberal end of the political and social spectra. With that said, I completely disagree with the walk-outs and name calling that occurred during the segment. Sometimes, as an adult, one must deal with opinions and people with whom you disagree. When you choose to take on a job like ... say ... host of a TV show where you have to interview people, AND you are quite aware of the type of statements the interviewee is likely to make, that is unacceptable behavior. If I did that in my job, I would find myself in the unemployment line the same day.
I'm no fan of his... but he got Whoopi to shut up AND leave?? NICE!
Alan (and many others),
Have you no sense of scale? Nineteen muslim extremists caused the 9/11 murders. So out of 1.57 billion muslim worldwide, they represent (19 x 100)/1570000000 = 0.000001210191083% of the muslim population.
Now go ahead and argue that there were support personnel and people cheering on the street in Gaza. That might bring it to .00005% of the population. "Scale"...You must consider scale! I'm not particularly appreciative of this, but it was the Arabs that brought us algebra, so I'll venture that they have a sense of scale.
Good for them. "Muslims did 9/11". That's just disgusting. Let's start naming everything Christians have done. Geez.
Muslims killed people on 9/11. Terrorists killed people on 9/11. Not all Muslims are terrorists. Get it?
Timothy McVeigh was a registered Republican. He killed people. So Republicans kill people and are terrorists?
Technically, Bill O’Reilly is not wrong – Muslims did kill over 3,000 people on 9/11. The reaction of Joy Behar and Whoopy Goldberg is indicative of their bias. They assumed that Bill was being a racist. They chose to walk off without first asking him if this is what he meant. I agree with Barbara Walters.
And, what Bill said is a mild statement to the comments that Joy Behar makes both with words and body language. She condemns people, ideas and beliefs regularly who do not have the same ideas, and beliefs that she has. I wonder how Elizabeth can continue to work with someone who is so disrespectful.
I am actually surprised that Whoopy walked off. She strikes me as generally being fair in her approach to people, ideas and beliefs.
And let’s go back to what Bill said. There is a very large segment of the Muslim world that believes that any other religion is wrong and it is OK to kill the non-believers. I do not see many Muslims standing up and saying that they disagree with those that express these beliefs. Can you imagine a talk show like the View being held in Iran, or among the Taliban. The people that disagree with their view would be killed.
Bill O'Reilly can be a pinhead sometimes. They knew this before he even came on The View. Joy and Whoopi need to grow up. They can learn a thing or two from Barbara Walters. I don't believe an entire religion should be demonized for the actions of a few, but that doesn't mean I am going to walk away just because someone shares a different opinion.
Bill O'Reily is an ass and always has been. He shouts down people on his own show, he's a bully, a liar, and in inciter of mobs. No one with any sense takes the guy seriously.
Umm...let's just call a spade a spade. Muslim's attacked and killed us on 9/11. Were any of the attackers NON-Muslim? Were any of the planners NON-Muslim? To my knowledge, NO...they were indeed all Muslims. That being the case, it is correct (and not inappropriate) to say that Muslim's attacked and killed us on 9/11.
Bill you made the ladies walked off... Good for you...
Whoopi and Joy should not have let him get the best of them. Leaving the set was inappropriate. We all know BIll O'Reilly is a big jerk that like to blow things way out of proportion. The fine art of civility is completely lost on people now of days. We need to find it again. Disagreeing is a part of the political process, but we should act like mature people.
O'Reilly was right, but could have worded it differently.
Terrorists who "happened to be Muslim". What a joke. As Ed Koch is fond of saying "All Muslims are not terrorists but all terrorists are Muslim"
well, but it's true! They were all muslims who killed our people that day. And they used their muslim religion to justify it. What's wrong with telling the plain truth?
right-on-ladies,You-had-the-guts-to-protest-ignorance.
So,few-people-have-the-Nerve-to-speak-up.
Whoopi is a Muslim...cant you tell by her outfits? She hates whites and people of faith. Joy is not Jewish nor Italian, if so she should be ashamed of herself. I think she had a bad childhood, hates her own folks.
In all fairness, O' Reilly was correct. They were Muslims. He simply stated a fact. The "walk-off" girls missed their chance at intelligent debate. But then again, when you've got nothing intelligent to say, just walk off.
why are women always in denial...and sticking up for bad boys...like the killer mooslims of 911!!!
Both. Walking off was a bit melodramatic. That doesn't mean Bill O'Reilly isn't a pinhead. I wish they would built the "Ground Zero Mosque" on Ground Zero. It would be a large improvement to the giant hole that is there now.
I love how the half of americans from the most educated parts of the country, as well as the entire rest of the world (that's a lot of people), can't stand republicans and their hatemongering. Just kind of makes me feel sorry for the right.
Bill O'Relly has done more to screw this country up more than ANYONE in Ploitics. The drivle he spews is bigotry and it's irresponsible and hurtful AND harmful.. The losers that buy his book are as bad as him. His show is just a Republican TMZ mouthpiece. What a loser. But a RICH LOSER.....cannot believe how many people in this great Nation follow that idiot.
MattinDC
I love it when people on the left who preach tolerance are not tolerant of someone that has opinions other than their's. Who is the bigot here? I say the hosts.
If your not allowed a point of "VIEW" Then you have China .
Would anyone really care if those 2 leftist left America ? 85 % would not.
NO WAR MEMORIAL FOR MUSLIMS AT 911 SITE. PERIOD
Freedom of speech demands some level of responsibility when that freedom is exercised by those prominent and admired. O'Reilly should know better. He should understand that his responsibility as a patriot is not to pander to those among us who wallow in hatred and paranoia, but instead to provide fact and reason. Shame on you Bill. Thank you Joy and Whoopi.
Bill IS a pinhead. He knew darn well that by saying his little sentence about Muslims that he would cause a ruckus. And he did. He loves to play/be the "devil's advocate" but unfortunately, he means every word he says. I am glad Whoopi and Joyce walked off the show. As for the Muslims building a mosque a coupla blocks from the tower site, I don't see anything wrong with it. Maybe some of the Muslim-phobics will go to the center and learn that not every Muslim is an extremist or radical.
Those two are the reason I quit watching the show. No one is right but them!
What in the world does Timothy McVeigh have to do with the anything? He once claimed to be an Agnostic. He attended Mass as a young personl later he said, "Science is my religion". The comparison is much like that of apples and oranges. As for the View? It would be good if the View hosts could exercise some professionalism instead of sensationalism - why not ask Bill O. to explain his comments; have a dignified discussion. Maybe you don't respect your audience enough to put forth the effort. Walking out? Really. And for all the bloggers who object to stupidity, racisim, religious intolerance: How about a little of that tolerance - without name-calling and "you must be southern" to have that opinion? Now that's a real intelligent remark.
WOW! The view is a strange show. These women act like they are at a bachelorette party, talking over one another constantly. You can't even tell what the topic is anymore after a few minutes. And O'Reilly walks into that mess, expecting.... what? In my opinion his job is to inflame peoples indignation and sell advertisement.
Agree with David.. Whoopi needs wake up... DON'T COME BACK... Whoopi .
If more people would walk out on Bill O'Reilly, it would be a first step in bringing down Faux News
All those women on the view are nothing but a bunch of loud mouth idiots who don't know what the hell they are talking about half the time. I NEVER watch the show – especially when Rosie O'Donnell was on. I don't always agree what Bill O'Reilly says all the time BUT he speaks his mind and backs up what he says.....the so called "ladies" on the view need to get a life! Bunch of d* bags!!
O'Reilly may have over-simplified the situation, but last time i checked it was Muslims, in the name of "Allah" that killed thousands of inocent people on 9/11. do you find it troubling that we are now more apologetic towards Muslims than they are to us?
Lard-stuffed Duck-Lipped (no offense to ducks) Joy Behar needs to shuffle off the stage PERMANENTLY. Her old school teacher act is stale and offensive.
Whoopi needs to find another venue for her specific talent.
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg disrespected and insulted Barbara Walters by walking off The View live broadcast.
This should be grounds for being fired. It would, as a side benefit, STOP THE CROSS-TALK which is as offensive as fingernails on a chaulkboard.
Time for a varied panel of co-hosts of varied values not just the Liberal Left.
Just so you know, the United States of America is MORE than just New York City !!!!!!!!!!
Adios, The View !
Point 1(“In his letter, McVeigh said he was an agnostic but that he would "improvise, adapt and overcome", if it turned out there was an afterlife. "If I'm going to hell," he wrote, "I'm gonna have a lot of company." His body is to be cremated and his ashes scattered in a secret location.”(SEE NOTE 5) NOTE 5 Borger, Julian. “McVeigh faces day of reckoning.” The Guardian June 11th 2001.) Point 2. If a Christian kills in the name of God then he/she is in direct VIOLATION of the teachings of the one they claim to follow. If a Muslim kills in the name of Allah he/she is actually acting out the teachings to the fullest degree.
The most shocking part of this story is the number of Americans in this site still defending the idea that "Muslims attacked them". I've lived in the US and more than a dozen countries around the world (including developing countries) and I never found such a level of ignorance anywhere else. The level of willingness to be brainwashed by propaganda from big money is unparalleled and beyond belief. My favorite question for ignorant Americans is "why your country is called America?". Believe it or not I have not found ONE American to this date that can answer the question correctly. How in the world you live all your life in a country calling yourself a "patriot" and not have the basic level of curiosity (of a 5 year old anywhere else in the world) to question where your country name comes from? It is a lost cause. A sad story of a potentially great country taken over by the ignorance promoted by a few folks looking to make a lot of money out of it. I would just ignore these lost souls and let them destroy themselves with fear, anger and hate. Natural selection will do its job.
How can anyone compare what Muslim extremists have done, to actions of Christians? Muslims kill innocent people, and themselves, daily because they're following the Quran. They're doing it BECAUSE of their religion. Timothy McVeigh was a crazy American with psychological problems, and his bombing had ZERO to do with Christianity. He was NOT following the Bible. Have their been a few whackos that have claimed to kill because "god" told them to? Yes. Does the Bible ask people to kill and promise a reward of deflowering a specific number of virgins? No. That's the Quran. That's why Muslims are doing this. They're getting serious about their religion and killing people. Are there peaceful Muslims? Yes, because they're NOT following the Quran. The Bible openly condemns murder, and declares that we are to love our neighbor as ourself and that the greatest virtue is love. It NEVER says to kill everyone who doesn't believe what it says.
OReilly blurted out a "glittering generality". It was nothing more than that, and certainly nothing to get bent out of shape over. I can't believe there are people who would consider the man racist due to a single, blurted out, sentence. Boorish? Maybe so. Racist? Come on, if you are going to call a man a racist, have the integrity to back it up with something remotely substantial.
Goldberg and Behar made the decision to walk off the stage and make a big show of it. Is there anybody out there who are really surprised with their actions? It's not like these women, with the exception of the respectable Ms. Walters, are journalists or reasonable commentators by any standard.
Why give this man and his kind a platform? If they have no place to speak their drivel, it matters that much less. I can't believe they let him on the show in the first place. They shouldn't have walked away, They should have lambasted him and his antics and embarrassed him with his own small mindedness.
Once again, Whoopi and Joy are being hypocritical. They decry the tea party for being boisterous and call conservatives knee-jerk reactionaries, but neither Whoopi nor Joy can sit calmly and listen to an opposing view. Isn't their show ironicallly called, "The View?" I guess expression of one's opinion is ok. but only if it mirrors their own.
Get rid of religon all together and we would not have this problem. Alrighty Then.
Does anybody watch the View anymore?
took a poll and ten-million watch the view to one not watch...guess that would be you
Makes me sad that people are quick to argue and differentiate Muslims and Muslim extremists, but not many people bother to differentiate Catholic pedophile priests vs. Catholic priests who haven't committed those crimes. Sometimes, I wonder how intimidated Americans really are of Islam?
so, Whoopi and bill don't get along, so what else is new. I like watching view and also Bill. Maybe have round two, with gloves off.
There show is not a regular 9-5 job. So to put their job, and how they reacted to ignorance on their in the same category as the rest of us is ignorant on our part. When someone says something I think is not appropriate at work (I WORK FOR A LARGE COMPANY), YES I will walk away to cool down, or whatever I need to do. I honestly believe we have all lost our minds on this situation everyone lost that all groups, and if you have never been to NEW YORK (as I have) and stood where this happen, then you don’t know..FOR ONE..its not next to as some people want you to believe, and it was already owned by Muslims. So this conversation is getting more airspace then necessary. Whoopi and Joy walking off was better than sitting there arguing, and if you don’t like them great, don’t watch the show and you could have skipped over this part of CNN….COMMON SENSE PEOPLE..and I am a Christian by the way.
Muslims wer killed in the twin towers on 9/11. Muslims are fighting in our army against Al Queda. Over 1 billion people are Muslim, and only a tiny fraction support terrorism. The proposed mosque is not at ground zero, but several blocks away. Bill O'Reilly is a demogogue. Look it up.
the View hosts are like paid bullies..they consistently invite people that they know they do not agree with...and then instead of having a proper civil discussion, they just fire off...apart from Barbara..none of them have any class..i used to like Whoopi earlier..but the woman sheds her maturity whenever it gets a little uncomfortable for her and totally ignores the fact that she is on national television and has some responsibility of behaving properly.. a great journalist or in this case talk show host is one who can keep their personal views aside when interviewing someone..and most importantly..you have to give respect to your guests..otherwise why invite them..!! i guess they haven't learned how to have a mature discussion..!!
On the whole Mosque issue..none of the two sides are being logical..people are still hurt over 9/11, the why insist on having the mosque right there..?? and on the other side..why let the extremist win by showing them that American people are against Islam/ Muslims..when they actually aren't.. the issue is one of sentiments and not logic..so lot of dialogue will be there..hopefully that can be done without shouting and 40-50 year old women acting like teens on TV..
O'Reilly and his type are complete morons, and do a severe disservice to our country with their "Faux" news.
As for the community center being built by Ground Zero...the people against it are the most unamerican of us all. America is supposed to mean tolerance of other religions and freedom of speech, but apparently we only stand for "freedom for what the majority believe in." These are usually the same idiots walking around spouting "support our troops! They are defending our rights overseas!" Then they turn around and give up the same rights back home. If anyone is not supporting our troops, it's these morons. Supporting our troops means more than saying it and putting a sticker on your car. It means helping to defend freedoms for EVERYONE (not just people that go to YOUR church), while the soldiers are away.
So, Bill, since Timothy McVeigh was a staunch Christian, does that means that "Christians killed us" in Oklahoma City?
"Your OKC bomber argument doesn't hold water because Christians are[n't] intent on killing anyone that doesn't believe like they do." Oh, really? Try telling that to the family of Dr. George Tiller, who was repeatedly threatened and ultimately murdered by Christian fundamentalist fanatics. But that's nothing knew - after all, people have been killing each other in the name of Christianity for thousands of years, from the Crusades to the Inquisition to the Salem witch trials to Operation Rescue. Violent fanaticism isn't confined to any one particular religious orientation; Christians and Jews have got plenty of murderous nuts of their own.
All organized religion should be outlawed.
I want people to know that we are not against ones right to religious freedom, I just don't understand why not build your mosque elsewhere? the muslims are not considering the respect for those families who lost loved ones on that horrible day. Am I the only one that know that extremist muslins always erect a monument where they victor???
Whoppi and Joy: a childish duo. Don't feed the fire if you can't handle the heat. Obviously, if you try to burn O'Reilly, he'll try to burn you back. Maybe when The View gets some intelligent women who can accept a strong opinion, then I'll consider tuning in.
Of course he was wrong. However why is anyone surprised?! It's the same senerio every time the guys goes out in public... he forgets he is not surrounded by his base of like minded "pinheads"
He is a pinhead but the ladies did overreact. They are on a talk show, controversy is their bread and butter. Sit there and defend your opinion, that's what you are paid for.
They were dancing in the streets when the towers fell.
They stand outside the subway station near WTC handing out flyers and pamphlets with propaganda (I walk by them every day).
They claim it is a religion of peace, yet have eagerly been involved in the most brutal and violent conflicts around the world for generations.
Words like "radicals" or "extremists" indicate that it is just a fringe who engages in these behaviors, but if that is the case, the fringe controls a large majority of the middle-eastern, African and southeast-Asian world. Your friendly American-Muslim neighbor is the fringe. Stop fooling yourself.
O'Reilly spoke correctly and was wrong to apologize.
O'Reilly is a figure head of the Repugs & Teabaggers,they'd follow him over a cliff if he said jump.Fox is a right wingnut show & he helped with their so called news,more like a smear show .People believe him,Palin ,Limbaugh and the like,all hypocrites.I suppose all Baptist are Klans men because of some Baptist extremist in the South,a very small following are still acting out.All Blacks must be Black Panthers because of the actions of a few.Thats how stupid this sounds,but the Repugs like to cast this like our President is still a Muslim after all his information proved otherwise.Vote With your heart & stop their smear campaigns ,that will hurt them like it hurt McCain & Palin,remember!!
Everyone is talking about how Bill 'knew' what he said, which may very well be... However, as hosts of a show, Whoopi and Joy have a responsibility to abstain from walking off the show even if they don't like what they hear. It is a talk show where guests come on with various views. Some political, some even non-political, but outrageous all the same. Too often Whoopi and Joy feel that their opinion is the 'right' opinion. Well, the same rights they want that says it's America and we can say what we want, also is given to their guests. Remember it is a talk show based upon differing point of views. If they want to boycott someone or their statements, they need to get their own radio show and get off the View. The View is made up of all opinions, not all things Whoopi or Joy. And while I don't share the political views of any of them (too far right or too right left), it feels like Whoopi and Joy believe their opnions count more somehow, or that they should be heard over everyone else. When your guest makes a faux pas you help them out of it you don't slaughter them. Class was lacking today from Whoopi and Joy. And for once, I think they went too far. Even if their GUEST was wrong.
Many people in the U.S. do not worry about being politically correct. This is basically why people get upset when someone makes a statement such as O'Reilly did. It was not the 'right' thing to say, although to him he just stated an answer to the question.
Yes, the peopole who hijacked the planes were practicing Muslims. Maybe he could have pointed that out but if you ever watch him, he always states things plainly/matter-of-factly (if you ever bother to see his show rather than just automatically bashing him and all of FOX).. and yes, sometimes people take them offensively. But in your [liberals/progressives'] strive for political correctness, don't demean or put down all others with opposing views. IT is very unbecoming, and this is why people who feel differently about a number of issues are getting upset.
Tea party anyone?
look its not like he was talking to professional journalists, except BW, so if they don't behave as professional journalists its because they aren't. It was a gut reaction to something they found offensive and I applaaud them for leaving the stage whil O'Reilly spews his typical right wing vileness. Onnlny one pinhead on the show today, BO. Hope he is never invited back. He is a hate monger
Timothy McVey did not BOMB Oklahoma City because of CHRISTIANITY... He BOMBED it because he was mad at the US Government. The 9/11 BOMBERS... Killed us...in the name of ISLAM.
People claiming that we don't say 'Christians' killed us at Oklahoma City are wrong... Oklahoma had NOTHING to do with Christianity... 9/11 HAD EVERYTHING TO DO WITH ISLAM!
Bill went on the View with full knowlege of what he was there to do: artificially create controvery and media buzz for his new book, by playing his usual nutjob character. It worked like a charm. Everyone bit, and you've all been trolled.
Sadly, too many people don't recognize Bill's profiteering sensationalism for what it is, and like Fox news, they swallow the hateful rhetoric whole. They'll buy his book, he'll keep making money, and he'll continue beating what ever pathetic drum will make him rich, for as long as gullible people will listen to him instead of thinking for themselves.
The View has one View! Its LEFT WING and its disgusting to see Joy and Whoopi act like children when someone challenges their propaganda. YAY for Bill!
Two funniest things in this comment string:
1. Be reasonable.
2. Use logic.
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people crack me up.
well, well. I guess Joy can dish it out but she can't take it. On her show she is always bad mouthing the republicans but someontheir opinion and she wlaks out.
by that same logic, there should be no churches erected near the site of the oklahoma city bombing because the homegrown terrorist, timothy mcveigh, a christian, killed 168 people there.
I agree with Mr. O'Reilly. It is inappropriate for them to re-build so close to Ground Zero, especially when the US Government has reneged on a 9 year old contract agreement with the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese to allow them to re-build their church on the original site from which it was destroyed by the 9/11 attack. This Greek church had been at that location for 130 years and to not allow them to rebuild is a travesty. This is just another back door for the Muslims (extremists) to hide behind when they say that this is a "community center". This should not be allowed to happen. Go build it somewhere else. Each time we soften up, we seem to get hit harder. The US had better build back its strength and respect and maintain our borders and follow Arizona's lead.
Ó´Reilly is not only a pinhead, he is a stroke. He came on the show looking and hoping for a fight, too bad he got one. Extreemism such as O´Reilly is why America is not working anymore.
How fantastic to see two women stand up to a self aggrandizing bully like that. He has a lot of nerve to come on as a guest to someone's show and try to use the loud talking, aggressive hand gestures and bully body posturing against these women, like he does to everyone he brings on his show. Trying to talk over them, that is exactly the type of behavior that is out of control in this country and is leading to kids killing themselves. We must unite and fight these evil people and show we will not tolerate this anymore. He is a school yard bully, always has been always will be, until he pulls is little act against a real man that will not put up with that. Hey Bill, I dare you to try that with me, I'll give you what some one should have back in grade school.
My dad is a republican. He emails me all his republican propaganda. Sometimes I try to argue back via email, but then his arguments are sooo unreasonable that I decided to block him from my incoming emails- the straw that broke the camel's back was his comparison of Sarah Palin to Michelle Obama.. and how Palin has done so much more politically then Michelle because Palin was a governor. OMG, I called my dad stupid!!
You have to respect and accept all religions. Also, respect the people who don't believe in any higher power. We all live in America, and we should treat each other with respect, regardless of color, race or religion. Treat others the same way you would like to be treated. Peace!
Personally, I've never understood the point of "The View". It's always seemed to just be an excuse for four self-important celebrity has-beens to get together and cackle and have drama. I guess I'm old enough to remember when, if you brought guests on your show, it was so you could talk to them, no matter how odious they were. It wasn't just so you could have a little drama fest; it wasn't so you could sulk, throw a snit and walk off. Seriously: if you've got that much of a problem with your guest, take an early cut to a commercial and boot them off the show. If you walk off, it just looks amateurish and makes you look like a spoiled brat.
Joy: I can't wait to see what kind of idiocy "The Talk" is going to bless us with to try to one-up "The View".
When you were in school and a student misbehaved, you all suffered the consequences. Or put another way, one bad apple spoils the whole barrel. Well, the extremists have given Islam a bad name. Therefore, in most people's eyes, islam is a dangerous religion. Don't forget that, because that's just the way it is. Good luck.
Pinheads all of them and the word is too kind!!
If O'Reilly would have answered better, it would have required a longer explanation and TV likes sound bites. I think what he MEANT was, 'The people who attacked the WTC associated their actions with what they perceived as the requirements of Islam, right or wrong. Most Americans do not understand distinctions between Muslin sects. The people behind the proposed Manhattan Islamic Center know this, but are choosing to ignore it. It's an 'in your face' kind of action on their part, and it's actually detrimental to them. They don't understand P.R. at all. They would be smart to hire a Madison Avenue P.R. firm'
I think those two planned to find a pretext to walk out from the beginning, and jumped at something that was really pretty weak.
Someone toss those "ladies" some Midol. Completely unprofessional.
Joy and Whoopi are pin-heads for walking. Joy just wanted publicity!!!! smell my ass
Maybe the ladies didn't agree with Mr. O'Reilly, but can't there be debate? Did they expect him to say kind things about Islam when they brought him on the show? Is it unreasonable to "respectfully" disagree and just change the topic? C'mon people! This is America!
As usual, Whoopie and her sidekick Joy shriek, yell, talk at or over whomever disagrees with them.
I've watched The View from the beginning and today Whoopie & Joy reduced it to a comedy gone wrong.
They were way out of their league, and the respectful thing to do was to maybe listen.
Whoopie should stick to comedy. I used to be a fan.
Sidekick should stay at home.
I love it when Beck & O'Reilly go on the View because their appearances make the hosts look like petulant children and behave like idiots. It just causes more people to flee shows like the View and switch to Fox for their news, rational discussions and opinion. To those who say criticizing all Muslims for the acts of a few is like criticizing all Christians for the acts of a few Christians like Tim McVeigh are wrong. After Oklahoma City you would been hard-pressed to find a single American who wouldn't openly condemn Tim McVeigh's actions. After 9/11, you would be hard-pressed to find a single Muslim religious leader, Muslim community or Muslim organization of any sort that would openly & loudly comdemn the actions of the 9/11 terrorists. To this day I'm still waiting, so for my money they're all complicit in their silence.
Lucy, are you serious? "Hard pressed to find a single one?" In fact, there were many, many Islamic religious leaders, scholars and personalities who immediately and vehemently condemned the 9-11 attacks, as well as in the days following. Seems to me that you're only hearing what you truly want to hear. In the meantime, check this out when you get a chance. It's a collection of public statements of condemnation - stated both loudly AND openly - that were made by prominent Muslim groups and individuals in the aftermath of 9-11.
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
I'm sorry I missed the show today. Good for you 2 for walking off . Bill OReilly is a jerk ! Are all Germains Nazi's ? O Bill shut yur mouth.
If I am not mistaken werent the hijackers dedicated muslims? Didn't thousands upon thousands of muslims take to the streets in celebration? Didnt they invoke their religion in their celebrations? Do they not when commiting suicide in crowds of people? And what retort did the two numbskulls have? McVeigh? Seriously? How many christians took to the street singing praise Jesus because of McVeighs actions?
Bill O'Reily is a complete idiot and why the ladies of The View would have even invited him on is beyond me. The women of The View are always professional but when you're dealing with a jerk like O'Reily, well, it's hard NOT to walk off.
They did not overreact. They acted in-character and their blissful denial of the threat that Islam poses to the USA was in keeping with their socio-political perspectives. Personally, I think that those to whom we refer as "Muslim extremists" actually personify the most authentic form of Islam. A Muslim who treats women with respect and desires to live peacefully with his neighbors is as authentic a Muslim as a Jew is an authentic Jew who eats pork. That is my personal opinion on the matter. I don't expect this comment to be posted, though.
JSEAN wrote: "is identifying a group of people not a religion. Muslims, Indians, Chinese, Americans, etc are a group of people. Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, etc. are religions." If Indians are from India (unless you're referrig to Native Americans, Chinese are from China, and Americans from US of American – where are Muslims from? In this case, A Muslim or Moslem is an adherent of the religion of Islam. Literally, the word means "one who submits (to God)". Please read a refernce book from time to time and stop relying on other folks opinions. Opinions are not facts.
The View. What a joke. They can dish it out but they can't take it.
Why invite the guy anyway? They don't like him and he doesn't like them. They, with the exception of one, are a bunch of bleeding heart liberals who have lost touch with reality because of the Obama Kool-Aid.
He is an extreme right wing Conservative with whom they will NEVER agree.
Why can't they both accept that and then agree to never speak to each other again?
As an Army Infantry Officer who has deployed to Iraq twice... once to Baghdad and 15months in the "Triangle of Death". I saw numerous people killed... enemy, US, civilian, contracted US, etc... I think it is irrelevant to say what religion the person planting the explosive or firing the rifle is... UNLESS, they are perpetrating violence in the name of religion, which the 9-11 terrorists and al Qaeda in Iraq are doing. Mr. O'Reilley did not "make up" the fact that Muslims killed us, however it was a blunt generalization... For someone like Whoopi Goldberg to act shocked and surprised at blunt speech, then I would suggest that she shouldnt watch ANY video tapes of herself.
Saying "muslims killed us" is insensitive and lacks tact. Just like say, oh I dunno, erecting an Islamic center near the spot where thousands died at the hands of extremist muslims.
Reading a smattering of these posts leads me to believe that some folks are not aware that the extremists who attacked the twin towers that morning did so IN THE NAME OF ISLAM.
It is pertinent that they were indeed Muslims.
And no, they did not in fact represent all Muslims – however, they did believe that they represented all True Muslims.
Again, did you also watch the celebrating in the streets of Islamic cities abroad after the event? They represented more than just themselves, apparently.
The selective indignation of this crew is laughable. On various occasions Behar and Walters have made wholesale condemnations of Catholicism, with nary a blip in the news media. Please, spare me your p.c. hypocrisy
I am a Muslim. I am an American. I am not a Terrorist. I suffered too on 9/11.
God willing we will build the Mosque there. A mosque that represents the True Islam, not the Extremists version of Islam.
Oh, and Bill, you are a pinhead, and idiot pinhead too!
Do you believe this choice of a site is a good start at demonstrating the peaceful nature of Islam?
those women need to put their "big girls panties" on and quit acting like a bunch or primadonas or wimps. I am a woman and I find it embarassing that they are unable to dialogue with someone that has an opposing view and that they throw temper tantrums on TV for the entire world to see. As the writer stated "drama" - they are just drama queens that perpetuate the misconception that women do not have brains in their heads and will respond with emotions or drama to everything. They need to keep on walking or become more professional - one of the two. O'Reilly probably got what he was looking for and they handed it to him.
Political correctness is a disease. A true sickness.
Hmm, let's take this thinking one step further than the Mosque... let's just ban all Muslims from New York City! I mean, virtually everyone in NYC was traumatized by 9/11, so obviously if they see a Muslim, they are only going to get upset and afraid again. Yup, seems like the smart solution to me, just ban them all from NYC. Because It makes sense right? I mean, it's the only way to be sure nobody gets upset. Also, we need to ban very tall, large buildings from NYC because many people died in the WTC towers. Tall towers will upset the families, so we must lower the entire skyline of the city for them.
Obviously that was all sarcasm, but it sounds just as ridiculous as the Mosque debate to me. They should be allowed to build it there if they have all the proper permits and legal things finished.
Now as for the View hosts walking off the stage, well, they shouldn't have done that. Was pretty childish of them.
After reading many of the comments posted here, I am wondering how many would still hold to their views if the shoe was on the other foot and THEY lost their Father, Mother, Son or Daughter etc? Would they still welcome the Mosque with open arms? I doubt it. It's easy to judge others when it doesn't effect them.
Looking at their profiles as they exited stage left, does anybody know their due dates?
Babs probably would have liked to exit stage left also, but it was too much work. How old is she now?
Because so many people's lives have been lost at Ground Zero by Muslim extremist, I do believe it is not appropriate for a Muslim Center to be built nearby and one would think they would not want to build nearby with so many people upset over the idea. However, STUPID IS WHAT STUPID DOES! "THE VIEW" obviously is not open to people's "views" either, if they walk off a show during someone discussing their view on a situation. I will gladly take over their job, by the way
Make me an offer I can't refuse.
Carol Heil
Girls behaving badly. Man haters. Behar and Whoopis stage shows show the real pinhends they are. Coffee chat with a bunch of Beatches. Their show is aimed at stay at home bitter women, haters.
"Your OKC bomber argument doesn't hold water because Christians are[n't] intent on killing anyone that doesn't believe like they do." Oh, really? Try telling that to the family of Dr. George Tiller, who was repeatedly threatened and ultimately murdered by Christian fundamentalist fanatics.
I may disagree with what you have to say, but will defend to death your right to say it – Voltaire
However, to disparage an entire religion based on the actions of a few is pure idiocy on O'Reilly's part.
I have an idea...let's build a mosque, a church and a temple at Ground Zero. End of discussion.
Saying Christians killed us in Oklahoma is NOT the same as Bill saying Muslims killed us on 9/11. The terrorists who committed 9/11 cited their Muslim beliefs as the REASON for committing the atrocities. Timothy never said he was killing people due to his Christian or military beliefs.
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, a rising GOP star, warned Monday against "overreacting" to the threat of terror and painting "all of Islam" with the brush of terrorism.
Michael Gerson, a former speechwriter for President George W. Bush, expr...essed similar apprehensions Monday.
“A president not only serves Muslim citizens, not only commands Muslims in the American military, but also leads a coalition that includes Iraqi and Afghan Muslims who risk death each day fighting Islamic radicalism at our side,” he wrote in The Washington Post. “How could he possibly tell them that their place of worship inherently symbolizes the triumph of terror?
Political correctness is a disease.
This is the normal thing for those that try to defend muslims or dems. They can not do it with real talk they have to do it with walking out and making a scene but never making any true statement or honestly listening to another opinion when it is not like theirs or when the other person gets to return a comment with truths. You can not tell me that muslims did not plan and carry out the attack on 9/11. It is always "extremist" well wake up and read the quran. They are all "extremist" if they follow the teachings in the quran.
But...Muslims DID kill the people in the planes, the world trade center towers, the pentagon and on the ground. It's not demeaning....it's the truth.
Are thre peaceful Muslims? Yes. But that means that they're not truly following the Quran. The muslim extremists were guys who all of a sudden decided to get serious about what the Quran was teaching...it could happen to any one of the millions of Muslim-Americans. It happened to the Muslim shooter at Fort Hood. This problem will continue as long as people are being deceived by the Quran.
Whoopi and Joy were wrong. I'm a proud Liberal, but, uh, it is 1000% factual that Muslims carried out the worst single attack on U.S. soil, ever. And it is entirely wrong to ignore this, for the simple reason that to categorize jihadists as a "few extremists" is ITSELF prejudicial, ignorant, and the sort of narrow-mindedness my fellow Libs accuse the other side of doing! It demonstrates a clear ignorance of what's going on globally from MANY Muslims' point of view. There is a big difference between extremism and jihad. One indicates being off-balance. The other a broad, cultural and religious philosophy, one that more than a "few" embrace.
If we start as recently as the '72 Munich Olympics, and go down the list: Achille Lauro, airports in Anthens, Vienna, Rome. Bombay, Bali, Mumbai. Lockerbie. TWO World Trade Center attacks, only one successful....This list could go on and on.
"Few extremists" is entirely inaccurate. Thousands, hundreds of thousands, of jihadists are and have been conducting war against the West for a long time.
What bothers me as a just person is that the Left is demonizing anyone who feels unfortable with Muslim places of worship and/or gathering centers in their community. The FACT is, we are seeing American-born Muslims becoming radicalized in this country and bent on killing as many fellow Americans as possible, as well as seeing Muslims in our cities and towns engaging in long-standing Muslim traditions that go against what we believe in America, like honor killings, for instance, which are in fact taking place for some Americans right next door.
So folks have every right to be concerned. I mean, radical Muslims can come and go freely in this country provided they are not breaking the law. But if they wanted to recruit, where would they go? They certainly won't be fishing in the synogogues.
While it is true, the people who did the killing on 9/11 were Muslims that has nothing to do with what rights others of that same religion might or might not have. I see so much stereotyping coming from all quarters that it is maddening. This shows how most of America, on both the right and left, is incapable of judging an individual. That would require listening and thinking. Most are evidently not capable of that. Everyone on this show except Barbara acted like loons.
O'reilly knew what he was saying before he said it-he is just a big lier who came there with ill intentions-anyone who needs to be fired is him and his bunch-rush,hannity and joe scarborough,all are racist oh and glenn beck is the king of them all-people who watch FOX NEWS are all the same, all racist and stupid-no education or have any kind of clue about the world,they rather watch nonsense than the truth.why did they invite this fool anyway,they should have screened this racist,knowing he is a racist another KKK hiding his hoods and sheets in his closet and attending KKK meetings secretly,he stands for the republicans who funds and ownes FOX NEWS-who should be taken off the T V STATIONS.it serves no purpose just hatred this is who they are.
Interesting that all you can do is call people who disagree with you racist, stupid, etc. I contend that the only reason that BO is in the White House is that you voted for him because he is black and you could put down that you voted for the first black President. If anyone would have looked at anytihing about this man but his color he would not have been elected. Conservatives did that. Liberals did not. Hmmm wonder who is really a racist here?
9/11 it is simple as that. I think The View has run its course anyway. If they don't want to hear other's views, head to the unemployment line!
They should never have walked off. That is the cowards way out. What should have been done was question what white people built on the sites of Rosewood, Tulsa, the hundreds of black churches they bombed/burned, the trees used in other heinous hate crijmes against us. You should learn to give as good as they. For every imbecilic statement by the right, ask them why they did it to us. You better know they did. Now they call this president names, denigrate him, tell us civil rights went too far and question the reversal of Dred Scott. Muslims aren't doing this. Guess who is, again? Stand and fight. It isn't Martin's passive resistence any more, it is Malcolm's by any means necessary.
I genuinely want to know that answer to this: aside from Muslims born and raised in America, are there are overseas Muslims (in the MIddle East or even in Europe) who are adamantly against terror attacks on the United States?
He apologized. So what? He wouldn't have if no one had pointed out his gross overgeneralization. What if one of the ladies had said Christians killed us in the OK city bombing? They'd have been all over her like flies on you-know-what.
9/11 was planned and carried out by the U.S Government and specifically GW BUSH. This was a demolition job and an inside job. This had nothing to do with the muslim people. They were used as scape-goats in order to start a war with iraq. WAG THE DOG.
I was watching FOX News and came across the issue on the view, just one more reason not to watch any other New Channel but FOX.
I have never watched the view for good reason. If the two so called hosts walk off,
so what, if they cannot take the truth they should not be hosts!!!
Two drama queens who knew what they were going to do before the show even started. The whole thing seemed to be scripted
I am with Bill on this one , all the way! the media and liberals must stop pandhering to the muslims! they do not belong here to change our way of life and culture, if they don'tlikeit they should go back to the place they came from!
Next time, keep walking...
Bill did not blame an entire religion – listen to the tape. The hefty women are the ones who made an issue of Bill's comment because they live in the world of political correctness. Who would have guessed the hefty feminists would be so easily offended? The upcoming elections are causing them to become unhinged.
I think Oreilly said what he said about muslims killing us on 9/11, because that is the exact reason why people don"t want the mosque there. The american people will never get over what happened on 9/11. And they will forever blame the muslim religion.
I think everyone is missing the point the show is called The View but you can only agree with theirs as someone previously said. (I have not watched it in years) Bill O'Reilly is a controversial talk show host-Helloooo what were they expecting!! As far as Whoopi and Joy walking off I think it was very unprofessional (probably planned in some way I'm sure)and only showed how they can't handle anything they don't agree with. Bill had a very poor choice of words but we have gotten so bad no one can say anything anymore without "offending"" someone it's ridiculous!! I don't watch either show so it doesn't matter to me what they wnt to say I ignore them.
The problem is name calling, like "pin head" for example. Bill O'Reilly doesn't have the manors or dignity of a Kindergarten bully! What a shame that so many immature adults like O'Reilly are calling names because they don't have the dignity or knowledge base to carry on a civil debate using the facts!
Unbelievably unprofessional for walking off stage because they didn't agree with Bill. I'm surprised they didn't stomp their feet on their way out. I expect something like that from Joy but I thought Whoopi had more class than that. Obviously not. No respect for anyone who doesn't agree with their views. And for pete sake, they should stop shouting and talking over each other. No class. I'm embarrased for them. They need to grow up and stop making fools of themselves.
Bill O'Reilly is correct -a bunch of Muslims murdered innocent Amercians. Why do we have to be so politcally correct in today's society. are all Muslims bad -of course not, but there are plenty out there who are still interested in wiping out Americans. It is disresective to all the families of those killled that day to build a Mosque that close ot ground zero.
Big deal...Whoopi and that other ugly host are the chief embodiment of this nation's hypersensitivities. Get over yourselves and your dumb feelings. Muslims WERE responsible for 9/11; O'Reilly was correct in that brief response. Now, you can argue that not all muslims are evil 'til your blue in the face, but the truth is that if you open your hearts up to anyone and everyone, you will invariably become the victim of your own naivite. Don't believe me? Take a course in world history and see for yourself. There is such a thing as too much tolerance, and before you know it the very fabric of your happiness will be impeded by the beliefs of other, less tolerant people...
Those hefty women are more concerned about political correctness than concern for the thousands that died. Boo-hoo, I'm offended, so I will exit my own show. They probably were hungry and used Bill as an excuse to go grab some snacks in the green room.
Why did O"Reilly even bother to go to the stupid hen show? Whoopi always gets offended ....why cause Obama is black and she wants everyone to agree with what kind of president he is. Whoppi you need not to be racial get out of the show if you cannot stand the heat. Talking about racial issues Whoopi go get a life instead of sound like an a.............if you know what I mean
So Whoopie is ok with her buddy Mel Gibson saying all kinds of things about Jews.....but if Bill O'Reilly says muslims killed Americans on 9/11 she flips out???? I guess it's only ok when actors say the stupidest things...
Granted Bill could have said it better, but I think The View cohosts were very unprofessional. Their job is to respectfully discuss different views. I'm suprised B. Walters allows that behavior. (The way Behar went after Mel Gibson, one would think she was without any sin.) One of our rights as Americans is to be able to have and express our opinions and we need to be respectful of others who we may disagree with. I'm not sure I will be watching The View any longer.
I think they took the 'low' road.
Who the hell watches the View???
The only two females on the VIEW that are totally open minded are Barbara and Elizabeth! Goldberg and Behar are the most misinformed, total democratic party spokeswomen that have ever been on TV. If Obama told them to jump out a window on the 80th floor of a building they would ask "what time?" The Joy Behar show on CNN is the most politically biased show on TV these days and she has her facts wrong about a story every night. It is a disgrace to the network to have her with her own show. These two should be fired for their actions on The View today!
I wish they would all walk off...a bridge!
Bill O'Reilly is a hero for voicing what true blooded Americans feel. It goes to show you how unprossional the woman were. The last time my 8 year old threw a fit like that I disciplined him and that is excactly what the American people need to do. Do not shop at the places that advertise on 'The View'.
"Your OKC bomber argument doesn't hold water because Christians are[n't] intent on killing anyone that doesn't believe like they do." Oh, really? Try telling that to the family of Dr. George Teller, who was repeatedly threatened and ultimately murdered by Christian fundamentalist fanatics.
I think Bill knew exactly what he was doing: pointing out the double standard in Islam. Let's see Chrisitians build a giant church next to Mecca and you'll see much worse than "walking off stage." Liberals like Joy & Whoopee are crybabys who can't take anything w/o acting like junior highers.
Let's explain this to the ignorant people of America. Yes, an extremist group of Muslims attacked several airplanes on 9/11. No, all the muslims all over the world, I'm sure, were not aware that this was going to happen and even if they were, I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't have been able to change the mind of the ones who did it. So, in saying this, we as "Christians" should really take a long, hard look at ourselves and just STOP!!! Bill O'Reilly is the worst "fake christian ever." But I forgive him for being the DUMB, IDIOTIC, PINHEAD that he is. Why!?! Because I am a Christian and my God preaches and teaches forgiveness of those who have trespassed against us. Now for all that other stuff that I wrote, people should be calling me a hipocrit. How can we call ourselves Christians when we are constantly judging others and can't forgive from our hearts. Get with it Mr. O'Reilly, because as long as you continue to live, the USA, will continue to be a melting pot.
Those ladies would not have been offended nor would they have exited their own show if Bill had said Christians instead.
Looking at their profiles as they exited stage left, does anybody know their due dates?
Notice how Joy never get ticked off enough to walk offset when Rosie was popping off conspiracy theories about 9/11.
It's all entertainment. The View, The Factor... they're all entertainment and opinion shows that shouldn't have any real substance. O'Reilly, Beck, Limbaugh, etc. all these guys do is rile up the dopey followers that watch their lousy shows which are there to sell products through commercials. Of course he's going to spout out some dumb comment like he did, and of course the ladies on The View are going to be shocked... this is television people.
The real conversation to Mr. O'Reilly should have noted that there were Islamic Mosques in the WTC's and Americans who practiced the faith of Islam died in the attacks. Taking these "shock" comments serious is stupid and a huge waste of one's time.
WHATS NEW WITH WHOOPI, YOU HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW FROM HER ABD SHE WILL BLAST YOU WITH THE ONLY VOCABULARY SHE HAS !!!!!!!!11
I hate it when people go beserk on these cooking shows. They did'nt even start cooking when two of the cooks ran off the set because thier guest said a few stupid things.
the ladies on the view did not walk off because the pinhead did not agree with them. they walked off because the pinhead blamed ALL muslims for 9/11. he did not specify extremists. i applauded them for walking out on such a load of bs out of the pinhead. we can't blame all muslims for 9/11 just like we can't blame all christians for the oklahoma bombing. and the 'mosque' being built near ground zero is not disrespectful of the families of 9/11. there were muslims killed on 9/11 just like every other religion. besides, isn't there something about this in our bill of rights? be an american and accept all religions!
Don't another person bash Whoopie or Joy for they did exactly right instead of knocking the hell out of this KKK person-why was he invited anyway they might as well invited the whole FOX NEWS CLAN-who spreads hatred everyday all day-Barbars needs to just shut up-it was better they walked off the set than to have slapped this fool up side his head,they have the right to express themselves to a arrogant racist person like O'reilly he is nothing but a piece of --,and full of hatered-I don't even allow him on my TV or do I watch the racist news such as FOX NEWS-poeple need to get a clue to what this man is all about-but you have some dummies who like this nut and who is hell bound-I donot waste my time on people like him or people who likes this fool-I watch the view and will continue to watch it-better watch the view than watch HATEFUL PEOPLE WHO ALWAYS TELLING LIES.
Muslims DID kill us on 9-11, and ORDINARY muslims laughed and danced in the streets while WTC jumpers fell like rain. While the 20 hijackers were certainly extremists, it is very dishonest to say they did what they did without the support of many ORDINARY muslims. We saw them, its on video, they cannot deny it, and more than nahzis can deny the holocost.
Bill just had to get to them before they attacked him with some inane charge they would expect him to defend against. Good for him. Lets see, Islam is a religion and they want to build a memorial to the people who died in the attacks of 9/11. Are they planning on putting a plaque at the entrance in honor of the 19 "Terrorists" who died for Allah? It is time we grow up and realize that there are people in the world who want us dead. They should be treated as such. No 'Culture Center" promoting a religion whose tenants is death to the infidels if they don't convert.....Sounds like war but you know how we are. We may not be at war with them, but does that mean that they are not at war with us?
For one, the entire incident was embarassing for America in general. OReilly is known for his antics as happening on the show. The ladies should have known that it was going to occur. His show is constantly berating people and groups. It is embarassing that he was even asked to come on the show. That is mistake number one.
Mistake number two is that he made the "generalization", over used word now, about Muslims. He may have misspoken and generalized, but he did apologize. If one watches his show at all or reads the papers he is consistently doing it.
They should be able to build a mosque near the site but be ready for the what may occur. They are all correct. It is a sensitive subject. The site is a sacred space as well as the mosque for Muslims.
Mistake number three is having those two ladies still on the show. I have stopped watching the show because they never have anything positive or intellectual to say when it is not in their point of view. One could have sat there and had a conversation with O'Reilly if they didnt constantly try to interrupt him and be rude. Yes he is rude at times but if you invite someone to be on the "View" you better allow him to make his point, no matter how low or belittling it is to others.
Mistake four, inviting him.
O'Reilly is sadistic, he might even be a "witch" I mean warlock
O'Reilly has no credibility at all. If I were Whoopi and Joy I would worn earplugs on the set. I know they get sick and tired of having to endure putting up with bobble-heads aka Elisabeth Hasselback and her nonsense but because they are much needed I'l say, please hang in there,...and next time, earplugs
As for the whole Tim McVeigh thing. One major difference the lefties don't want you to realize. Mcveigh did not attack anyone because of his religion. He had no religious motives, hence his religion is irrelevant.
No one can say the same for the 9/11 hijackers.
No one can say the same thing for the 9/11 hijackers. One of the reasons was american in Saudi Arabai from an interpretation of Mohamed that infidels should not be in the holy land. Bin Laden had already issued a Fatwa (aka a RELIGIOUS opinion) against this.
The creation of Israel was another reason, thats not political either, but religious.
So you had religious followers who attacked us for partially religious religious reasons on 9/11. That cannot be denied without rewriting history.
I think Whoopi and Joy need to get another job. These women are againts anyone who doesn't think like them.
I hope they read all these comments and feel embarrassed. Barbara needs to put them on probation.
I also think Bill O'Rielly is a Pin Head. He to thinks everyone should think like him.
The ratings went up when they walked off, that means .......five people were watching!
There was an interfaith centre dedicated WITHIN the Pentagon on Sep. 11, 2002. Where were all these "anti centre at the twin tower site" opposers then? They keep saying it is an insult to those who died, as well as their families. What about those who died, and their families, when the plane hit the Pentagon during the same attacks? Why does no one ever bring this up.... could it be that not many of them know about it and can't defend it now? This subject is difficult for me because of my sad feelings for all the victims.....but Bill O'Reilly is a fool and Joy and Whoopi, a disappointment today.
obviously staged for ratings.
Christian religious beliefs do not advocate, condone or encourage violence against its neighbors. Is there any other religious belief that does?
Mr. O'Rielly likes to be controversial. He knows there are a lot of people that share his view. That is the audience he plays to. He also knows as an educated man (an assumption), a TV celebrity and as a public figure with an international audience, he should be more sensitive about what he says but this is how he make a paycheck.
Whoppi and Joy should not let guys like this get under their skin. They should discuss the facts of a subject like this calmly and expose it for what it is. This is purely an opinion formulated and expressed using the narrowest form of tunnel vision.
The majority of Muslims hate extremist as much as anyone else. The problem is they are the silent majority. It is only a small amount of Muslims that share the extremist view to the point of destruction of human life.
Therefore we should talk to those Muslims that do not share the view of extremism. We should build friendships and partnerships with them. This is the way to combat the extremist. This is the way to banish this type of behavior from the face of the earth. This is the way to learn to live in peace with our brothers and sisters from all faiths.
I am a Christian myself, a Southern Baptist. I understand tolerance. I understand that not all Muslims are extremist. I understand that not all “so called extremist” follow this ideology to the point of destruction of human life. I understand that we should not hate all Muslims because of the heinous acts of a few. Mr. O’Rielly knows better.
So much for listening to other peoples opinions. Just a bunch of egotistical, no talent, so-called entertainers who think that somehow their "view" is important.
THAT REACTION FROM WHOOPI IS HER TRADEMARK... SHE DOES NOT HAVE THE VOCABULARY TO GET INTO A HEATED DEBATE WITHOUT USING THE WORDS THAT ARE SO FAMILIAR WITH THAT RACE !!!!!!1!!!!!!
I don't know if I could have sat there and listened to Bill much longer either, if you noticed he wouldn't let anyone olse speak. By the way all you conservative thinking people out there I am confused by all your liberal hating.I have been to gatherings on both sides. On the right it was 100% white, while on the left it was very diverse, please explain
Let's not split hairs here. ISLAM attacked America. The Koran teaches hate. Period.
"Muslims are at war with us and we dont even know it..."
So the women who drop kids at my kid's school are at war? Or the guy getting his car washed ahead of me on line? Thanks for hippin' that to me dude!
"Shrink, I want to kill. I mean, I wanna, I wanna kill. Kill! I wanna see blood and gore and
guts and veins in my teeth! Eat dead burnt bodies!"
Muslims didn't attack us on 9/11, terrorists did. Blaming the entire Muslim religion for 9/11 would be the same as blaming the entire Christian faith for the David Koresh standoff in Waco, or the molestation of children by some Catholic priests. There are good and bad people in every religion. There'll always be wackjobs out there of every race, creed, and religion. Its unfair to blame an entire group of people based on the actions of some bad apples. Now, as for the proposed islam center being built near ground zero, I think its in incredibly bad taste. There are many other places in New York where they could build the center, and I totally understand why some people who lost loved ones in 9/11 would see it as a slap in the face. Those who are insisting that it should be built near ground zero, aren't doing anything to help their cause. They're just turning people against it. They may have every legal right to build it there, but citizens of New York who are still traumatized by 9/11 have every right to be upset about it. There should be a compromise; build the center somewhere else and make everyone happy.
the sad thing is that they are so prejudice against the historical core values of the US that regardless of the crime they will not see the truth
It's easy to identify the liberals on this comment board. Liberalism, the cancer of the WORLD!
Mr. O'Rielly likes to be controversial. He knows there are a lot of people that share his view. That is the audience he plays to. He also knows as an educated man (an assumption), a TV celebrity and as a public figure with an international audience, he should be more sensitive about what he says but this is how he make a paycheck.
Whoppi and Joy should not let guys like this get under their skin. They should discuss the facts of a subject like this calmly and expose it for what it is. This is purely an opinion formulated and expressed using the narrowest form of tunnel vision.
The majority of Muslims hate extremist as much as anyone else. The problem is they are the silent majority. It is only a small amount of Muslims that share the extremist view to the point of destruction of human life.
Therefore we should talk to those Muslims that do not share the view of extremism. We should build friendships and partnerships with them. This is the way to combat the extremist. This is the way to banish this type of behavior from the face of the earth. This is the way to learn to live in peace with our brothers and sisters from all faiths.
I am a Christian myself, a Southern Baptist. I understand tolerance. I understand that not all Muslims are extremist. I understand that not all “so called extremist” follow this ideology to the point of destruction of human life. I understand that we should not hate all Muslims because of the heinous acts of a few. Mr. O’Rielly knows better.
That is way out of line. Terrorists were the ones that did something so wrong. Muslims are not evil. They are just like a catholic, or a christian, or any other religion. I may not think that building near Ground 0 is a good idea, but only for the reason that people should be able to go there, and maybe say goodbyes, or to just see it. But, there is nothing wrong with muslims. O'relly has no right to say anything lke that.
Bill won that round, I think he had it planned just to get there goat, I dont agree on what he said, but again hes not a stupid man to take the chance to se whoopie freak out LOL.....Bill 1 the view 0
For all of you referring to OK bombing, McVeigh was an atheist that disavowed Christianity long before that occured. By McVeigh's own admission, he resented the govt. O'Reilly was correct in stating that Muslims, in the name of their religion, killed those US citizens on 9/11. Goldberg and Behar are intellectual midgets and when they met their match they fled.
There was an interfaith centre dedicated WITHIN the Pentagon on Sep. 11, 2002. Where were all these "anti centre at the twin tower site" opposers then? They keep saying it is an insult to those who died, as well as their families. What about those who died, and their families, when the plane hit the Pentagon during the same attacks? Why does no one ever bring this up.... could it be that not many of them know about it and can't defend it now? This subject is difficult for me because of my sad feelings for all the victims.....but Bill O'Reilly is a fool and Joy and Whoopi, a disappointment today.
Both are out of line. If you are the one walking out of a conversation, you lost. But Bill is WHACKO.
Furthermore, there should be no Christian churches in Spain as it was host to the Spanish Inquisition, one of the greatest atrocities and acts of terrorism ever committed in the name of religion. It is an affront to the over 5,000 non Christians who were tortured to death in the name of the Holy Catholic Church.
The 9/11 attacks were closely related to the terrorists' Muslim faith. Extreme or not, that's a fact. The Oklahoma bombing and the other terrorist acts mentioned here were not closely tied to the Christian faith, but more an anti government militia philosophy. Now if you want to compare 9/11 to the Crusades, fine. But to ignore the Muslim component to 9/11 is revisionist history.
Well, it was Muslims who killed on 9/11. It is Muslims who build mosques on conquered territory and Americans are going to just let them! Islam wants to take over the world - why is that so hard for people to grasp?
So many have commented that the people who bombed our buildings and killed Americans were "in fact" muslim. I counter that argument with the idea that those people who attacked and killed Americans, and the many others who believe in the same ideology, were acting against the Muslim faith. Islam is well known to be religion that preaches peace. The Hijackers were not muslims, they were not people of faith, they were murderers and extremists.
By the way I am a white Catholic born and raised in NY and I knew many people who died or were injured and seriously affected by 9/11 and I'm disgusted with the islamophobia that is going on in our country.
Get it right- hate extremists because they deserve to be hated. Don't hate muslims!
Oreilly is an ignorant SOB to say something like that. You can't blame a whole group for what a few did.
It's very simple. No, O'Reilly wasn't sensitive in his statement. "Muslims" are not responsible. I lived in Turkey among the kindest and most peaceful Muslims. They were not terrorists.
In my experience, though, despite the liberal code of "tolerance", having grown up in the oh-so-politicized DC Metro area, I have found liberals to be sooooooo INtolerant to views that have any hint of conservatism to it. It's generally accepted to preach hate against conservatives (I'm an independent, btw). Whoopee and Joy are a prime example: inability to control that rage and maintain a rational discussion with a very high-profile conservative. It's a little too typical, if you ask me. (In contrast, Conservatives tend to be self-righteous–I don't want to let them off the hook)
But, in my opinion, I do still think building the mosque on Ground Zero is completely insensitive and unwise in terms of bridging a gap with the Muslim world. There are other means to do that. Let Ground Zero be and maybe in 10 years when the scars of 9-11 have healed a tiny bit more, we might be ready to take that step.
Notice that Liberals walk off when they don't like what someone says, and have either no guts or knowledge to debate the issue. On the other hand, when has a Conservative ever walked out on a Liberal. They just laugh at them. Yes, Moslems killed us. Deal with it.
Apparently neither Bill O'Reilly nor about half the people in this country understand that first of all, not all Muslims are terrorists and two, that not all Muslims are from the Middle East! Try Bosnia for starters!
I'm a non-muslim arabic person, I've lived near muslims for most of my life before coming to the states, and I've seen muslims dancing in the streets when 911 happened, just reading some of the notes here, makes me wonder when will people realize that muslims in that part of the world just don't like the US... I agree there are some peacefull muslims in the world... but give me a brake! the Mosque can be built somewhere else just out of respect for the parents of the vicitms of 911!!!!
Bill shouldn't have generalized about Moslems attacking us but the women shouldn't have walked off the stage, how unprofessional.
Mark
Mr. O'Reilly meant what he said, and said it exactly how he planned. He received the expected response and is getting all the free press he could ask for considering most of these people are commenting about his antics and not his book. He went on the show to sell his book and make money. Get a clue people.
Great point.
O'Reilly is sadistic...and so are those crooks he pals around with
o'reilly is a rascist bully who will support the impending fourth reich what/ a jack ass
All 19 murderers of 9/11 were indeed "Muslim". Al Qaeda claimed the attacks were done in the name of "Islam". It has been 9 painful years since the attack and to date, no Islamic country or prominent Islamic leader - including Imam Rauf, who is behind the Ground Zer victory mosque - has even stood up and publicly denounced 9/11 with any ferocity. Rauf, actually called the U.S. culpable. So, a resounding YES, Bill O'Reilly is correct: "Islam" is guilty. Goldberg and Behar merely did what they do best - behave like spoiled, leftist bovine brats.
Ahh, the peaceful religion of Islam. Join us or we will cut your head off. We can blow you up, but you can't poke fun at our child molesting, woman abusing prophet.
McVeigh did not kill in the name of his religion, he killed out of his hatred of the U.S. Government. The 9/11 hijackers DID kill in the name of their religion. There's a big difference, and comparing McVeigh to the 9/11 hijackers is a poor analogy.
Here's the thing. People that are hosting these kind of talk shows are so accepting of others such as Gays/Lesbians, Muslims, Mormons, Jews, and other minority groups. They take offense so easily when having a normal conversation about these groups that it's hard to have a normal discussion. I agree with O'Reilly, I don't think they should build a mosque at ground zero because it's disrespectful to those that lost their lives that day and disrespectful to Americans. Build your mosque elsewhere and let us keep our dignity.
he is the quentensential idiot they talk about Rick Sanchez why does he still have a job? Hmmmmmmmmh
People, stop trying to defend Bill O or Glen Beck or..all the FOX NEWS people. They are the dirtiest American trashes of all time. If the FOX NEWs audiences have a little more intelligents, they would figuere it out what these "PINHEADS" make so much money selling dirty trash talk on their network. They cannot stand to be attacked when they go on different networks.
I applauded Wooppi and Joy for walking off to protest this ignorant "pinhead's" comment.
The difference between McVeigh and the Muslim extremists on 9/11 is that the basic tenets of Christianity do not require its followers to kill everyone who is not "one of us." Islam does. Second, I don't believe McVeigh ever said that he was bombing the federal building in the name of His God. The Muslim extremists did.
O'Reilly is, and always has been, a provocative ass. His rationalizations for fascist points of view are shallow, and hypocritical. Bill O'Reilly operates like this: Assume the liberals are wrong, adopt the GOP point of view, and then rationalize why the GOP is right, never once considering the left's view. After that, make as many outragoues comments, and just 'get it out there' so that when you apologize, nobody notices, and assumes your previous statements were true. Now, I don't know what his motive is, but anyone who defends this ass is no better than him. So kudos for showing what Americans should do – walk away from this insane bigot and be done with it. Even discussing him, or perpetuating, rationalizing, etc his point of view ought to be a treasonous offense. Islam is the BIGGEST religion in the world, and Christians forget about that.
Would it had been the same if the KKK had been on there O'reilly is the kkk and all of FOX NEWS people are but whoopie orJoy were doing what they felt was right and not reply for Oreilly he knew what to say and why was he invited anyway? knowing this would stir up a bees nest-this was planed,and I stand by whoopie and joy-their has been others who have bombed up the U.S. and nothing said about them even thou they died or in jail.but anyway the whole muslim nation is not responsible for what a few muslims did and they also died,you don't blame a nation for what a few people has done,we see this everyday and people on here need to understand this-we all know what bill oreilly is all about he is a racist so what do you expect how people to act when someone says something out of the way knowing they sparked a fire-its their own fault and O'reilly knew that,he is an arrogant racist and his day is coming for he is hell bound-so what they walked out, so what, better than knocking the hell out of him,people always want someone to get fired for their beliefs,need to have a brain or get educated on beliefs. yeah the view is still on and I do watch it & so do a lot of people-better to watch the view than FOX NEWS where their is real hatred there 24/7 and the truth ain't in none of them.
I am not a fan of Bill O'Reilly but the View is about people's different views. Both Whoopee and Joy acted immature by walking off just because they didn't agree with Bill O. view. I personally think it is insensitive to build the mosque so close to ground zero, but this country was build on religious freedom and they do have the right to build it there. I really wish people would stop dragging Obama into every issue. This isn't about him and it isn't appropriate for the President to comment on this one way or the other. Bill O'Reilly is the pinhead!
Hey Muslims, It's this simple....WE DON"T TRUST YOU. I'm sorry, but you have to earn it back. Stand up for yourself, renounce terrorism, show outrage when terrorism happens.
Don't pass out candy to your kids and celebrate in the streets and expect us to trust you.
Agreed, they were unprofessional. They should have interrupted him and say, "Excuse me but when the Oklahoma City Bombing occured, that Christians killed us? No? Then You should have said Al Quaeda killed us. By impugning all mulslims with that statement you insult the many American Citizens who happily live pray and work here and have for their whole lives. Additionally you demean the memory of those Muslim Americans who died on 9-11 that day in the Mosque located INSIDE the world trade center and by framing this as Muslims vs America, rather than what it is, radicals vs America, you elevate the enemy and pit us against an impossible foe. Bill, why do you hate America so much as to demean its citizens and try to destroy it?"
Then every time he speaks, interrupt him and say, "Why do you hate america?"
When he gets angry say, "I am going to tell you what you tell your guests – Shut up. Shut up. Shut up. Now tell me why you hate America."
And just keep on brow beating him until time runs out.
Who even cares or watches this show anyways? I would rather watch old rer-runs of the Golden Girls. At least Blanch doesn't freak out and walk off the set like these two quacks.
Comparing 9/11 to the OKC bombing makes me ill...anyone who equates those events is so far off base. THOUSANDS of MUSLIMS were REJOICING and DANCING in the streets on 9/11. Were thousands of Christians doing that when the Murrah Building was bombed? Liberals that keep saying a "few Muslim extremists" need to get their heads out of the sand. Jihad has been declared against our country by THOUSANDS of muslims....not just a few crazy, extremists. Let's be realistic and state truths.
The comment was provocative and on a show that is supposed to relish in honest debate. Joy and Whoopi throwing a temper tantrum instead of "using their words" (as most of us learned at age 5) speaks to just how bankrupt liberals are in the original thought department.
Set aside that their ideology is based on emotion, the reason that most can't debate is because they've had little practice at it. Every media outlet scrutinizes Conservatives for every statement they make and routinely props up Conservative fanatics as representative of the whole. If you want to be a Conservative, you really have to want it and know it because you will be tested whereas liberals like Whoopi have been treated with kid gloves their entire lives. Is it any wonder she acts like a kid?
This guy is a fear mongering pinhead just like the rest of his Fox cronies. it's a shame that people like him have a platform to spew their hateful rhetoric from.
Kudos to whoppi and Joy but I really wish they wouldn't have walked off... what he needed was a good old fashion lecturing on why he is not a patriot but a pinhead.
The book is an autobiography about a poor misguided and abused Catholic boy who grows up bi-polar. Too bad the nuns couldn't slap it out of little Bill when they had the chance.
If "Muslims killed us" then how are Americans still alive ?
Here are the facts/questions/comments:
1) Thousands of Muslims around the world celebrated the deaths after 9/11 and called these terrorists Muslim heroes and martyrs – Yes, MUSLIMS – children, women, and men – were they all radicals or extremists?
2) The mainstream and radical Muslims treat their women like 3rd class citizens – so, why do American women, like on the View, support such a religion? Do they think they can have better lives under Shira law?
3) The builders of the proposed mosque – why aren't there any Muslim women investors? Answer: see #2 above
4) Quran's writing says to kill other non-Muslims – what other religion do you know that calls for deaths to non-believers of their religion?
5) How many times, in the last year, have you heard a girl getting killed by a Muslim mob or by thier father because they went out with a boy before marriage or wore someting "inappropriate"? How many times have you heard, in the last year, have you heard Christians killing someone for any reason in the name of Christianity?
I had friends that died in 9/11 and one of the things I remembered was the joy on the faces on Muslim children, women, and men on TV from various Muslim countries celebrating my friends' deaths. And I can't recall anyone Muslim person or group in the U.S. immediately condemning the 9/11 acts. I wonder what Husseum O was doing at that time?
Thousands out of millions of Muslim laughed and cheered? That's a minority, mister.
I remember when John Kennedy was assassinated. A couple of the idiots in my 7th grade math class clapped and cheered. I didn't blame everyone in my school for Oswald's actions as a result.
I had good friends die on 9-11 too. They were innocent and they would not want me to blame innocent but foolish people who were caught behaving badly on TV.
Would not Our Lord Jesus teach us thus?
@David you said: How many non-muslims are terrorists? AND NOT all Muslims are terrorists BUT ALL terrorists are Muslim!
One person couldn't have been more wrong then you when you made that statement. Obviously you haven't lived in the U.S. very long...There are so many gangs in our country that you can't use your fingers and toes to count them, gangs are terrorists. The ENRON guys who are now in trouble, terrorists. Terrorists that live in our country.
Yes the ladies may have been wrong for getting up and leaving...sometimes you have to remove yourself before you speak your opnion/mind and upsetting people, probably more people would have been upset than the number of you fools for them leaving.
So before you go and make us all Terrorists go check yourself....
this is silly. These women invited him on their show. Walking away from a debate shows that they have no cogent response to what Mr. O'Reilly's statement. Weak, weak, weak...
So, what part of "Muslims attacked the United Sates on 9/11" is false?
19 Muslims DID attack us on 9/11.
What the heck is that blow hole O'Reilly doing on the View anyway...whose brilliant idea was it to put that idiot shock jock on TV to run his ignorant mouth?
I don't blame Joy & Whoopi one bit....why should they sit there and listen to the ramblings of a maniac if they don't agree with his lies and hate! Barbara Walters needs to shut her hole too.....it's a free country if people don't want to listen to the idiot guest they shouldn't have to!!! GO JOY & WHOOPI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
First off, I don't consider either Bill O'Reilley or The View to be the highest of journalistic standards. In fact, I think it's fitting they are both more entertaining than journalistic.
For those accusing The View hosts for being unprofessional, do you forget so quickly Bill walking out of an interview with Terry Gross? He has demonstrated he is capable of the same grandstanding.
Bill's comment was intentionally inflamatory. I agree with the previous post that his comment was akin to saying the Oklahoma City bombing was an attack on the US by our military veterans. Kudo's to the hosts of The View for calling his hand.
I sure hope Barbara Walters and whoever else in power for that show thinks long and hard before renewing Whoopi and Joy's contract when their renewal comes up – their reactions were totally unprofessional in daytime (for that matter nighttime as well) TV talk show hosts. Who wants to go on a show where the hosts walk off if they disagree with the guest rather than stay and explore their reponse. Both Whoopi and Joy should be fired!!! And I'm not a fan of O'Reilly but their conduct was totally unprofessional.
My first comment did not post and noticed that when I said "noticed my comment did not post' and nothing else – that posted right away....so much for free speech at CNN.
I applaud Bill O' Reilly,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,shame on the View Ladies !
I think they were right to walk away. People who try to destroy the Islam through their hate and generalizations need to know that they do not have a valid opinion. We need to tell people it is not okay to demean minority cultures. Diversity is the biggest gift the US has been given and our hate is tarnishing it's glory.
Tommy, don't let facts get in your way, but McVeigh claimed to agnostic, and said, " "Science is my religion."
Why would he even agree to appear on the View? I've never watched the show but have seen snippets of it and it is just awful. A group of mean-spirited women who can't get laid; other than Elizabeth Hasselbeck, because she is married to a young stud. I can't stand Whoopi. Her film career is long over and what the hell was CNN management thinking when they gave Joy a show? CBS' new female day time talk show will trounce all over this mess and finally kill it off.
2 idiots. It's their view or nothing.
It reminds me a bit of the time that O'rielly turned off the mic of a guest he disagreed with on his show...
IS EVERYONE BLIND ON THE MUSLIMS TRUE BELIEFS..Please Read below it is straight out of the Koran..
Kill disbelievers wherever you find them. If they attack you, then kill them. Such is the reward of disbelievers. (But if they desist in their unbelief, then don't kill them.) 2:191-2
The disbelievers, they are the wrong-doers. 2:254
Don't be friends with non-Muslims. They all hate you and want to ruin you. 3:118
We shall cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Their habitation is the Fire 3:151
Allah will bestow a vast reward on those who fight in religious wars. 4:74
The disbelievers are an open enemy to you. 4:101
The Muslim terrorists of 9/11 gave a bad reputation to the whole Muslim world and their acts of terror all over the world are antagonizing the rest of the world.
Noticed my comment did not post!
Well, O'Reilly won again. They walked off. So he got his point across. People will never get it.
He has the righ to say it the way he wants it. It is true we americans were attacked by Moslems. The ladies are making a lot about nothing. It is just a ratings game.
Bill your such an idiot......
Time for Whoopi & Joy to go. They can dish out stuff to others but dont have the class to listing to any "View" that is different from theirs. They abuse other guests. Time for someone less bias. Go back to acting Whoopi, nobody want your opinion!
Sailing on a ship of fools, the new liberal America of apologists to muslims, gays, and third world countries that want to destroy us. The new American fools is more like it.
Not an O'reilly fan in the least but come on for the hosts to walk off stage is a joke. I hate to break the news to the hosts who walked off stage but there are people in the world that have different opinons then you. Walking off the stage really shows how close minded they really are, this is what happens when you spend your whole life in a liberal bubble
I believe that it was ok to walk off the set. I know I wouldn't want to be part of a program with someone who was spreading hate. Clearly it is spreading hate when one says that "Muslims" attacked the towers. As some brighter people here have already pointed out.... it was "extremists" who happened to also be Muslim that attacked the towers.
I think I would have stayed in the conversation though and pointed out the stupidity of the statement ....rather than simply walk out. The same thing happens in the UN. It always bothers me to see international leaders walk out when someone is making rude, hate filled or stupid comments. I would rather see them stand up and then point out how and why the comments made are wrong.
Bill tried his regular FauxNews style mistating of facts and the View crew is not used to having to dig through that much horse poo so early in the morning. O'reilly is a mouthpiece – he just got called on it this day
O'Reilly IS a pinhead, I'd walk out on him as well.
Maybe that preacher down south, could burn a few thousand of Bill O's books?
i bet if he had walked out because he didn't agree with the ladies, they would have verbally strung him up......shows hom childish the 2 ladies are
dim-witted drama queens
This is the problem with the opposition to the Park51 site: the idea that "Muslims" killed people at the WTC site, so no Muslims should be allowed to pray nearby. This is just failure to understand basic logic. A small group of Muslims known as Al Qaeda committed the attack. These people are just a tiny sub-category of Muslims in general. But Park51 opponents seem to think that being Muslim somehow ties a person to Al Qaeda's actions, so that any Muslim praying near the WTC site is offensive.
This is not a well-though-out argument, and in fact, it is a well-known logical fallacy to think that a characteristic applies to something because it applies to one of its parts. It's like being bitten by a vicious dog and concluding that goldfish are vicious: dogs and goldfish are both animals–that dog that bit you was vicious, so other animals like goldfish must also be vicious. Therefore, goldfish are vicious. Similarly, people would be offended by Muslim terrorists praying near the WTC site, the people building Park51 are Muslim, therefore, it is insulting for them to pray near the WTC site. It's the same as the goldfish argument, and no one would be foolish enough to buy into the goldfish argument.
Bill O'Reilly probably should not have generalized but the two women walking off the show is just incredible. I watch Bill O'Reilly every night and I think he is terrific! Why he goes on a show like that I will never understand. The only one that I would ever agree with is Elizabeth. Sorry, but I'm not a liberal and that is what that show is about! Yes, Bill probably did try to stir up something, but so what! Conservatives should be able to say what they think just as well as liberals do!
Joy Behar- actress and comedian
Whoopi Goldberg- actress and comedian
Sherri Shepherd- actress and comedian
Elisabeth Hasselbeck- tv host and athlete
Barbara Walters- journalist.
You know why they walked off? Because you have a bunch of poorly educated ladies with virtually no understanding of world affairs who routinely mistaken their personal opinions as fact and knew their moronic views were about to be torn apart on national TV. It was their only option.
The View is nothing but a bunch of small brained individuals with a loud microphone.
What a tacky display of unprofessionalism and middle-school drama on the parts of Whoopi Goldberg and Joyce Behar.I stopped watching "The View" when it stopped being thought-provoking journalism and became a soapbox for personal pot-shots toward anyone who disagreed with certain peoples' opinions. This is just a prime example of why I can't be bothered with that program anymore. It's turned into grade-school drama complete with temper tantrums. If I want to see that kind of ridiculously childlike behavior, I'll watch "Kate Plus Eight".
HELLO....guess what.....The View and O Reilly got exactly what they wanted....FREE PUBLICITY. This is what is done in 'show business.' Then the great unwashed (US) spend hours issuing vapid comments about their actions and 'reactions.'
Bill O'Reilly is a hoe-bag, who uses 9/11, hate-tactics, to pump-up his bank account. O'Reilly as is the majority of that group he's involved with will say anything if it will add another buck to his stash. Look around and see the suffering of the American people and hear what O'Reilly and his cohorts say. Its about time he got cut down to size for trying to incite hate. O'Reillydo us all a favor a crawl back under your rock....snake!
Guess some people just can't stand to hear the truth. They prefer their rose colored glasses world.
Bill O'Reilly was correct. The View hosts were wrong.
At least O'reilly apologized for his racist remark. It was fanatical extremists who carried out 9/11 therefore, not all muslims or the muslim religion should be blamed or penalized. It is not extremists who are building or will be attending the mosque. Therefore, build the mosque. Very simple.
first of all what do you think is going to happen when a staunch no bs conseravtion such as oreilly goes on liberal based show such as the view. of course his comments will be taken out of context by the liberal media. secondly oreilly is right. its sacriledge to build a mosque near ground zero.
If they can't take the heat, go back to the kitchen!
Wow....these women need to be fired. They obviously can't be grown ups & have a grown up conversation, so they shouldn't be allowed to host a morning show that adults watch. They are pathetic. Who cares what he said...get over it. People in this country are way too sensitive over the stupidest things, and they have no respect for people that don't think just like they do.
Woopie and the other Bi+ch are stupid. Muslim extreemist ARE MUSLIMS, and a lot of Muslims are extreemists. Everyday Muslims are killing each other and for no other reason than the way they inturpid their religion. If someone used a broad bush and the term Christians they wouldn't have batted an eye. Most of these "open minded" left wing-nuts are actually afraid to say the slightest negitive thing about Islam because they don't want to be the next target for assination.
The ladies on The View make a living voicing their opinions on the air. It is disappointing to see them react this way to a conflicting opinion. One thing that strikes me when I read comments on CNN.com articles written by many of those who consider themselves "liberal" is the intolerance for conservative ideas. EVERYBODY needs to just lighten up and accept that there will be differences of opinion...isn't that why we vote?
His comment was typical Fox "news" half truth telling. Its what the right does, this is no shocker at all. Am I the only one that remembers the Crusades? When millions of middle-easterners were slaughtered by Europeans in the name of Christianity? No one ever brings it up but I digress, the right is known for spreading their version of events and enticing fear and hatred for anyone that isn't like them. Its pathetic, any educated person that saw, heard, or read his remarks knows what he was doing. Just another 50+ year old white guy that's trying to cling to the 40s in any way he and his supporters can. Look at the south, most racist part of the Union, also the most republican part of the Union and the least educated part of the Union.
Statements like yours will turn independent thinkers into O'Reilley fans. Your use of Southern stereotypes demonstrates that you are a textbook pinhead.
The ladies were as unprofessional as Bill's racist and/or ignnorant comment...Apparently they were fighting fire with fire. It's just too bad that they let Bill get under their skin because that was his intent and always is. Report extremeist to rile the crowd, it's like he pokes a stick at anyone that pays an ounce of attention to him...Ban Bill, he's bad for society.
@Boiling in Boston sums it up PERFECTLY.
@smdexpo – you're absolutely right too.
Why the FOX news network gets to stay on the air claiming to be a news organization and the FCC doesn't shut them down is beyond me. They've been proven to tell lies and claim they are "news stories" but yet when proven to be lies, they claim freedom of speech. I say that free speech does not apply when you induce fear and panick (like screaming 'fire' in a movie theater)
Today on the View:
Cacklin Hens vs. PinHead the Rooster
Sounds like a big chicken fight to me.
Round 1 Loser, PinHead the Loser
Round 1 MVP, Whoopi fast maneuvering with out thinking
Very unprofessional to walk off. I wish Whoopie and Joy would just go away.
This country has bent over backwards for way too long. What if the evangelicals in this country decided to stop the traffic in the streets of New York and pray like the muslims do. Would that be accepted? I don't think so, they would most likely be arrested. America it's time to wake up!! Read between the lines. As far as the show goes, i don't watch it ever. A group of Big Mouth women, who probably have way more problems than the rest of us, but surprisingly there are enough weak minded people to keep these nit-wits on the air.
FACT: the Ground Zero Mosque is being built in a location where parts of the crashed 9/11 airliner landed as well as some body parts of victims that were on the crashed airliner happen to be. A Muslim mosque at ground zero is a totally inappropriate and insensitive site for those of us who lost family members on 9/11!
Posters on this website need to check their facts before foolishly spouting off!
I wish the pinhead was the one that walked. What a joke that guy is.
doesn't Quran define the 'unbelievers' (jews and christians) as infidels and teach Muslams to fight them till the end?
So called Christian extremists take the Christian teaching WRONG but the Muslam extremists actaually are following the Muslam teaching but at an extreme level. I haven' heard there's an entire army of Christians planning for terrorism.
that's my view on the difference between the two.
Of course most Muslams are peace loving and I respect that but the worries of those who are familiar with the Muslam teaching against American people should be considered valid I think.
I don't think Woopie or Joy have ever studied a single verse of Quran in their entire life. If they have, they wouldn't at least walk out.
Don't forget the Bill O walked off NPR's Fresh Air a few years ago.
Today on the View:
Cacklin Hens vs. PinHead the Rooster
Sounds like a big chicken fight to me.
Round 1 Loser, PinHead the Loser
Round 1 MVP, Whoopi fast maneuvering with out thinking
WHO CAN STAND THIS IDIOT??? His mentality is contagious to some ignorant Americans. One of the reasons why this is no longer the greatest and most powerful country in the world!
all the hijackers had penises and feet=> men and legs killed US on 9/11.
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For all those calling Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar unprofessional. On television or not, there are sometimes moments when someone is just too much to take. It's a talk show. Barbara does her best to maintain professionalism and always is able to do so. I'm glad they walked off. That's a statement in itself. O'Reilly's loving it I can well imagine.
as long as they stamped their feet before storming off, that's ok
their actions are as immature as their observations usually are
oreilly was being a provacateur with his comments
it's all show biz, both "the view" and "oreilly " play off of each other
more sound and fury rather then rational discussion,
Oh the intolerance of those who claim to be tolerant. Whoopi and Joy are just hypocritical idiots.
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Maybe the ladies on the view have forgotten the images of so called "Non Extreme" Muslims applauding the 9/11 attack. Besides who in their right mind would want to glorify a religion whose finest hour is the horrific destruction of 3000+ innocent human beings, including their own. The Muslim population had ample opportunity to condemn the act in mass but instead either supported it openly or remained quite. I suspect if it had been done in the name of any other religion the followers would have been very vocal against the cowardly act. The difference between this horror and other acts of violence is this was done in the name of Islam and, like it or not, it marks every Muslim who did not speak up against it.
Wrong, Irina. In fact, there were many, many Islamic religious leaders, scholars and personalities who immediately and vehemently condemned the 9-11 attacks - as well as in the days following. Here's a collection of public statements of condemnation that were made by prominent Muslim groups and individuals in the aftermath of 9-11. You may have chosen to ignore them, but that doesn't change the fact that they did indeed exist.
http://www.muhajabah.com/otherscondemn.php
Allowing the construction of a "Cultural Center" that includes a mosque to be built at Ground Zero would be the equivalent of letting Skin Head build a library that allows Nazi presentation at Auschwitz.
When our country was founded, it was with the ideal that each person be able to practice their religion without fear. Unfortunately, we have a sect of a religion that has decreed that they need to kill anyone who does not believe as they do. This certainly goes against the Founding Father's ideals. While the group that perpetrated the 9/11 attack are an extremist sect, they have not been condemned by the rest of the Islamic population as a whole as they should be. Until all Muslims condemn this group, they are as guilty as the hijackers.
Sometimes it is just right to walk away (or off). The View needs to re-evaluate their programming.
Whoopi is just an uneducated poor person with money. I don't care for her acting abilities and her conversations are always simple and misguided. She is physically the most unattractive women on earth. I am glad the view has a token black host, but they really should have shopped around for a better House (Person of Color).
They need to change the name of that show from The View to The Henhouse.
ya ya open the eyes – JFK warned about it and it happened – So DO YOU really believe anyone but George Bushes and the Illuminati's puppets pulled off 9/11 – wake up America the world know your being played as fools and your media is bough and paid for. please research 9/11 TRUTH.com ....read on
And before you pretend to be BRAD from CANDA, you should practice your English spelling and syntax a bit more, Abdul. And your use of "ya ya?" More of a Middle Eastern version of "yeah" or "that's right," than a Western exclamation. Nice try BRAD.
Brad – Before moving from Canada the second greatest country in the world to USA the greatest I knew Pull-Starts like you. So go back home and be happy again eh! Just think you can have burned Goat, smoke hash or whatever you were into. Or maybe become civilized like the Canadians before you that built the country … maybe even learn English or French. Just be careful you don’t turn it into the trash you ran away from.
Did the ladies overreact, or was Bill O'Reilly wrong in not talking about Muslim extremists?
Yes of course, and yes of course. And both "as usual" as well.
yes – JFK warned about it and it happened – So DO YOU really believe anyone but George Bushes and the Illuminati's puppets pulled off 9/11 – wake up America the world know your being played as fools and your media is bough and paid for. please research 9/11 TRUTH.com ....read
When will this end – I mean demeaning a whole faith which is followed by 1/3 rd of humanity. Please, Mr O' Reilly, think before you say anything. I believe you are an Ivy League product, too, and must have an IQ which speaks of rational thought and not just shooting from the hip.
"Muslims killed us on 9/11." Well duh......people have been killing, enslaving, and tormenting people in the name of religion throughout the existence of mankind.
and the KKK is a Christian organization, and look at how many people they've terrorized over the years. Bill O'Reilly is a tool who's made millions off of hate-rhetoric.
'Saying Muslims attacked us on 911' is like saying 'Christian's are racist murderer's' because the KKK are a christian group who are also racist murderer's. Such statements are not only false and inflammatory, they also reveal the speakers complete ignorance. A lack of the basic understandings of logic is one of the many reason's why American's have the lowest IQ's of the G8.
Yes, muslims did kill americans on 911 -they did it in the name of allah. Here is what the left needs to understand and think about – does the imam that wants to build the 911 mosque represent all muslims? I would think not. Look into his background. 99% of americans get the difference between an integrated reasonable non violent muslim and the islamic extremists – somehow liberals can't accept that any muslims are extremists.
The man who wants the 911 mosque is an extremist, therefore the mosque is a bad idea and a slap in the face to america.
It's tough for me to discuss O'Reilly without resorting to name-calling. Which I will not do. He writes books and has his own television show. He's in it for ratings as much as anyone. I went to a new gym this morning where there were three television sets. All sounds off with captions turned on. On the tv to the left there appeared to have been some sort of panic that took place ... "stunning" results were being announced, etc. etc. I looked at the other two televisions and saw nothing special. Turns out the one on the left was turned to FOX News. Such and such percentage of the American public want parts of health care repealed!!! To me this is what O'Reilly is about ... trying to induce panic under the guise of hey people this is really important. He knew EXACTLY what he was saying when he made the Muslim statement. Rush out people and buy his book!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hurry.
WAKE UP America – JFK warned about it and it happened – So DO YOU really believe anyone but George Bushes and the Illuminati's puppets pulled off 9/11 – wake up America the world know your being played as fools and your media is bough and paid for. please research 9/11 TRUTH.com open those sleepy eyes..
They knew he would be controversal when they booked him. They knew his views on everything they were to talk about. I agree he is a pinhead of the highest caliber and is the biggest boob on TV since Janet Jacksons superbowl wardrobe issue. But, they knew what they were getting into. They should not have walked off.
truth is JFK warned about it and it happened – So DO YOU really believe anyone but George Bushes and the Illuminati's puppets pulled off 9/11 – wake up America the world know your being played as fools and your media is bough and paid for. please research 9/11 TRUTH.com look into it.. if your smart
All the Muslims were men, so why not say men killed us on 9/11? Yes, my oversimplification is just as ignorant as saying Muslims killed us. I do believe there were Muslims killed in the Towers on 9/11 as well. But Joy and Whoopi should be bigger than that instead of walking out. Goes completely against the premise the show was based on.
Just change the name of the show to The Liberal Leftist Activist View and Nobody Better Disagree with Whoopi !
Tim McVey was no Christian and there was no group behind him. Extremist Muslims plotted and entire groups supported them. Many cheered. Why is everyone afraid to face the truth? Not all Muslims are extremists, but these extremists were Muslim, and there are many more. And they would gladly take out Joy and Whoopi along with the rest of us.
You are all talking about Timothy McVeigh which is ridiculous. The Christian religion right now is not engaging in warfare, the muslim religion is at war as we speak in other countries over religion. That is the big difference, they are currently engaged in religious warefare outside of America, and have even committed religious warfare crimes in America and we are building them a site or prayer right next to the very Americans they killed!
People just LOVE to get offended and make a scene for attention..... so FRIGGIN what he said "muslims bombed on 9/11" they did infact, as in more than 1 muslim bombed us! And as americans instead of jumping to defend muslims, how about defending your homeland that was under attack and who we are currently at war with. Their culture is destructive and their religion is to kill, been over there, seen it first hand!!!! Sure not aevery single one but the majority of them...YES! And Obama was in fact raised as a muslin, look at his friggin name! Why do you think he can't even provide his birth certificate? Do research people, just bc he looks black doesnt mean he IS! I am not going to waste all my time diggin up the info for you, but if you have internet, do your research!
The view is getting a little too over the top. There's a reason you bring O' Reily on the show; he brings controversy, strong opinions which at times can be very extreme. That's why you bring him on the show so that someone will actually watch the view. What he said was out of line but that is Bill. You know what he is going to bring so if you don't like what he has said before why bring him on to your show. If you bring him onto your show and he says something you don't agree with take it as an opportunity to make him look like a fool, or I don't know act like an adult and intelligently defend and support your argument not walk off like a 5 year old when they get mad.
All in all both parties in this are circus acts and both performed up to their reputations. O' Reily, just like Zoolander and equally as rediculous, can only turn right. The ladies from the view once again step up and make women look caddy and dumb. Golf clap for both.
Timothy McVeigh was NOT a Christian.
That he is a Christian is NOT factual!
This is why I can't watch The View. They were 100% wrong. Period. They only believe in the right of those who agree with them to speak. I am not a Bill O'reilly fan but he is more inclined to air different viewpoints on his show than they are. Joy is absolutely the worst. Sadly both she and Whoppi are uneducated on issues but that doesn't stop them from giving their opinions as fact. The 9/11 terrorists were Muslims. That statement does not imply that all Muslims are terrorists: the women chose to misconstrue his comment. The terrorists were also men: does that imply that all men are terrorists? No. This is silly and dangerous political correctness.
Reading all the responses, it seems O'Reilly got what he wanted....fodder for his next show! As for the view, can't stand the show since they added Whoopi...
Hey, hey Boiling in Boston, can we please cease any talk of closing any strip clubs near ground zero! Those strip clubs provide a cultural outlet in the city.
Never watched The View and never will.
These cooking shows are getting too politically charged and belligerent. They didn't even start cooking before the arguments started and a couple of the cooks took thier spatulas and stomped out in a huff.
Bill IS a PINHEAD Extreamist! Always has been (heavy on the "HAS BEEN") and always will be. How anyone can listen to his is beyond me. It's alright for the gals to walk out on him. Just as it's alright for him to interrupt and badger people on his show. It was a well deserved walk off and they should have stayed gone for the entire segment.
whoopi and joy need to grow up.....it showed how immature they were today.....and at the end did you not see whoopi making faces every time oreilly spoke......was that not rude?.....i've seen her do this in the past when john mccain was on and if she did not agree with what he said she started making faces.....and back then i wanted to go wait a minute....this guy protected you and this country and you have the nerve to disrespect him on national t.v.? what kind of person would do that.......i think what some people are not aware of (and i am from california and have visited ground zero twice) is that ground zero and for a least a mile around it should be sacred ground......do people not realize how far bodies flew that day...human .bones were just found blocks from ground zero months ago on top of a building
I walked off the "View" a long time ago. Who still watches that cat fight.
The people that killed us on 9/11 were Saudi, and bill O'Reilly needs to retire or be fired, he is a total moron.
This may shed some light to those of you whom are ignorant to the muslim ways.....
The HISTORY OF ISLAM may hold answers to WHY it is so important for Moslems to build that GROUND ZERO MOSQUE…
In 630, Muhammad led 10,000 Muslim soldiers into Mecca and turned the pagans’ most prominent spot, the Ka’aba, into the Masjid al-Haram Mosque.
In 634, Rightly Guided Caliph Umar conquered Syria and turned the Christians’ most prominent spot, the Church of Job, famous for being visited by Saint Silva in the fourth century, into the Mosque of Job.
In 637, Caliph Umar conquered Hebron and turned the second-most prominent spot in Judaism, the Cave of the Patriarchs, into the Ibrahim Mosque. (This was repeated by Saladin in 1188.)
In 638, Muslim generals Amr ibn al-As and Khalid ibn al-Walid conquered Gaza and turned the prominent fifth-century Byzantine church into the Great Mosque of Gaza.
In 638, Caliph Umar conquered Jerusalem.
In 691, Caliph Al-Malik ordered the _Dome of the Rock_ built on the most prominent spot in Judaism, the Temple Mount, followed by Caliph Al-Walid building the Al-Aqsa Mosque there in 705.
In 651, Muslims conquered Persia and turned Zoroastrian temples in Bukhara and Istakhr into mosques.
And so on an so on...... GET IT NOW?!?!?!?!?!?!? ITS A SIGN OF VICTORY!!!!
Their dramatic walkout was as choreographed as O'Rielly's controversial statements. ALL of these people are entertainers and we need to treat them as such and not experts. As though what they do & say means anything.
That's kind of like saying "Christians burn Qurans". I'm sure plenty of Christians would find that offensive and generalizing.
It's obvious that the women on the View are biased and unable to calmly hear an oppositional viewpoint. It's obvious they only want guests who share THEIR view. Whatever, I can't stand the show anyway, it's always just a complete cackling free-for-all, not one of them listens because they are all too busy running their mouths at the same time. If they hate Bill O so bad, why on earth did they invite him to the show? Today they showed how completely unprofessional they are, but it was not a surprise. It's a pointless fluff show
Please stop calling it the ground zero Mosque.The Mosque is not being built on top of where the World Trade Center stood.
It's 2 city blocks away.
These women all they do is worship those they agree with and they demonise all others. It's not a show anymore, it's a hen house full of animals that will tear you into pieces if you dare to disagree with "Their View ".
Classic liberals!!!
– intolerant of any one who disagree with them
– name call any one they disagree with
I can not understand why anyone would waste their time watching this liberal propaganda.
Bill O'reilly lives off of people reacting negatively to all the BS he says. It's the same with most extreme conservative leaders. I think when people keep this in mind, they would freak out and the conservative won't have any fuel to feed off of and will shutup. End of story
Who watches the View?
First, O'Reilly is a pinhead. Muslims have killed "us" and Christians have killed Muslims since, well, FOREVER. There are the Crusades, the Inquisitions, and all that has followed or preceded those historical events. The bottom line is that no one faith or people is innocent. So everyone's self-righteousness is of pinhead proportions. That, therefore, includes Bill O'Reilly. So, I hope he figures largely in his book.
Second, O'Reilly is as much an extremist as those Muslims who were a part of 9/11. He is a Christian extremist whose extremism is not manifested through violence of the blade but rather violence of his word. He ignores world history and fails to acknowledge Christianity's past wrongs when condemning current events.
What I mean to say is that, as my Mom used to say, "two wrongs do not make a right." When vilifying those who commit mass murder today, one should never forget what we as a holy, christian society may have done yesterday.
So much hypochrisy. I can't stand it.
9/11 was an inside job...investigate and research it for yourselves!
I APPLAUD Whoopi Goldberg Joy Behar for not giving IGNORANCE and BIGOTRY time of day !!!!
Jeffy, Timothy McVeigh was a self-proclaimed agnostic and he did not bomb the Kansas City federal Building. It was Oklahoma City. Come on. That's like saying 9/11 was the Sears towers instead of the WTC towers.
Timothy McViegh, who bombed the Federal building in Oklahoma City, killing American men women and children, was a Christian. I've never heard anyone suggest that Christian churches should not be built there.
George W Bush, who is among the worst war criminals and mass murderers in history, calls himself a Christian. Based on Bill O'Riellys' typically dim-witted, ingnorant and hate inspired logic, should we question the wisdom of allowing Christians to hold office?
Good grief,what are we, 12 years old? Ladies, if you don't have enough tolerance and self control to hear views that are diametrically opposed to your own, then perhaps you shouldn't be hosting a show called The View. Unless...oh, I get it now...you think there is only ONE view. Otherwise you'd call your show "The Views." Sheesh.
Thanks to Dubya all our children think Nuclear is now pronounced nuculear,LOL
How Said can this get I understand that what Bill said was stupid and he knew what he said was wrong but the action of the co host was not really necessary. walking off a set come on. Bill just wanted to get people worked up about something he clearly knew would be offensive.
The hosts should stay on the set at all times. Incendiary, half-truths like this come out of O'Reilly's mouth all day long. That's the only time I ever read about him is when someone reacts to his snipes. How can the hosts not be prepared to hear things like what he said? I think it was just a stunt to get us all looking at The View. Probably the ratings dropped a bit and they needed something like this to boost the ratings. And what's the attraction of this O'Reilly guy anyway. My gosh, I saw his ratings yesterday compared to others in his time slot. He dominated. That's the real news item. How can a hateful talking head like this guy get such a following? It's downright scary.
It would be great if Whoopie and Joy could learn to respond instead of react (and learn about professionalism). And it would be great if Bill would think first (as well as doing more to understand other religions and cultures), then speak. It seems like the far right, comprised of about 10% and the far left, comprised of about another 10% seem to be the loudest. It's time for the middle 80% to do something about that! What ever happened to respect and common sense?
All I can say is "Freedom of Speech" is only applied when you agree with the masses! I may feel his comment is wrong...but who am I to say he cannot have his say??
Political correctness will be the death of us all. We live in a society where we have "thought police' If you don't think the way the liberals do you are called a racist, cold hearted, overly religious, or only concerned for the rich. I respect everyones right to state their opinion. It does not matter if I agree with it or not. I should be able to speak my mind.
Scores of Muslims died in 9/11 O'Reilly is spewing anti-islamic bigotry and he knows it !!! You can not condem 1.5 billion muslims for the actions of a handful of Murderers. 9/11 hijackers are not the authority of Islam. they were TERRORISTS and attacked in the name of a religion that they did NOT represent in any way, shape or form !!! people who WANT to fill their hearts and soul with hatred will find excuses to do so. They will point out that the MURDERES had muslim names, that their parent's were Muslim and had come from Muslim countries so that means they were the authority of the religion and it's absolute representative. But people whose foundation are rooted in logic and peace will find such excuses to hate all Muslims as absurd and stupid.
I see many references to Mcveigh and you cannot compare the two. One nut job in the United States does not justify a comparison to millions of "radical" Muslims. They do what they are taught and what the Koran says. The West has been fighting this "peaceful" religion since Charles Martel at the Battle of Tours. It will continue to fight until the West burries its head in the sand and pretend there is no boogie man. Is it really radical when millions are willing to strap bombs to their chest and die for Allah? Just a question.
People chill, Bill needs the View like the View needs Bill. Its all for ratings and money no sense in ruining your day over it
I thought Whoopi could only communicate via sign language?
It never ceases to amaze me how religion and race can bring out the worst in people. All these self centered commenters who think their religion/race is the best can come on down to Falcon Lake and take a look at what's really happening in the United States.
I am surprised that O'Reilly was invited on The View. Surely the producers knew what his line was going to be and that Whoopi and Joy would find him and his opinions offensive. And why should they be expected to sit there like good little girls while he spews hatred? It seems like the "right" is wrong again – all the diatibes do is send people with a functioning brain to the other side.
O'Reilly is correct! Muslims did kill thousands on 9-11. Would you call "Born again Christians" extremists? They were indeed Muslim attackers and believers in literal interpretation of the Koran. If you don't believe Muslims are trying to kill us then you should visit Afganistan or Pakistan. If Muslims really were sensitive to the feelings of Americans there would be no "Ground Zero Mosque" project but they're not, all they're really doing is rubbing salt in the wound. Islam is peace? I don't think so. PC=BS
Is The View still on? People really watch it?
Bill O'Reilly might not word his thoughts appropriately for all without knowingly provoking someone. But, for the two to presumably curse and then walk off the show for a time is beyond stupid. They are supposed to be the next thing to a journalist in their interviewing of their guests. Those two frighten me. Wonder what these two extremist are capable of.
I have to say that I do agree with him about not building an Islamic Center near ground zero. It's just foolish for them to want to build one there. i am certain that they can find somewhere else to buid it. However, the two hosts walking out was nothing more than childish behavior and there was no professionalism about it.
I am not an O'Reilly fan, and I am definitely not a View fan. I find the conversation on the View to be patently liberal and the combined IQ of the hosts at 87. Elizabeth H has 84 of the IQ points and the rest have a combined 3. What Joy Behar and Whoopie did was typical of liberals who do not want to hear anyone else's views but another liberals. The View should be canceled and taken off the air as it is a waste of time. ABC should fill that time slot with something educational or more uplifting.
This is all theater. It will enhance the names and shows of all involved. I wouldn't doubt the whole thing was planned out. If it wasn't planned out, they they were all hoping for it to happen, and let it play out. They all get publicity, and look better to their base.
Typical Fox crappola, omiting important facts, and framing stories to meet their needs.
Every Christian to blame for the Oklahoma city bombing thats trash coming out of every liberals mouth who says that muslims terrorist are a different kind of muslim sect.
whoopie is a muslim.
Everyone has a right to choose who to sit and listen to. I for one choose not to sit listen to an idiot or a bigot. Bill is both....and if you think "muslims killed us", you too are an idiot and a bigot and I choose not to sit and listen to you. Sue me :}!
"F**** THING SUCKS! .... WE'LL DO IT LIVE.....@*#$ IT!! I'LL WRITE IT AND WE DO IT LIVE!!!!!!!!"
I agree with everyone, that has made a comment or blog and calling Bill O'Reilly a 'pinhead'. I would also like to say, that Bill O'Reilly is a 'pinhead and racist' and the majority of us, know he is. Which is probably why, we no longer watch his show or listen to his big mouth opinions, including talking over people or guests, when he should be listening and learning about.., there are ususally two sides to every story, instead of being bias. Sounds like Fox Network, again.
Tim McVeigh did not kill people for the sake of Christianity. His actions were secular in nature. The extremists who committed 9/11 were Moslem and did it in the name of their religion. That is an undisputed fact. What is disturbing is that the general Moslem population and their leaders were and still are fairly silent when it comes to condemning these people and their actions. Too many Moslems silently cheered when the towers fell. To build this center near ground zero shows a lack of sensitivity on their part. Will there be a problem if I setup a hotdog stand in front of this worship center selling pork products? Will the liberals on the View defend me? Whoopi and Joy only show that liberals are an intolerant and closed minded people incapable of civil discourse. They think with their feelings and not their brains.
O'Reilly is truly the epitomy on Pinheadism,He has a show on Fox a Murdoch owned company tryin to push their republican agenda on americans through their own broadcasting station and news channel,bunch of moronic idiots that have laid waste to this country for 8 0f the past 10 yrs. We may never get out of the hole they dug us into because they control most of wallstreet and the banking industry,Good for the girls they deserveapplause for what they did.
O'Reilly was wrong when he said Muslim's instead of Muslim terrorist or extremists were responsible for 911, but the cows on the view are so liberal they mess their pants if their guests don't agreed with them and kiss their feet. All the hosts are unprofessional and Barbara Walter's needs to retire.
O'Reilly's a loser. He's jus a typical conservative...talking loud and
saying nothing....unless it benefits him.
While I don't agree with Whoopi and Joy walking off the set (really
unprofessional ladies...something you'll be apologizing for tomorrow),
O'Reilly's is one of the biggest jack azzes around and I'm sure he
found delight in getting their goat.
He knew what he said and how it would provoke a negative feelings for
some but he didn't care..anything to get attention.
There's one thing for sure our country is turning into a melting pot
full of egotistical, self gratifying narcissist. Hardly anyone is
willing to take the blame for anything but will be the first to point
a finger.
This makes me think of a fun Sporcle quiz – http://www.sporcle.com/games/bryanmacfarlane/women_of_the_view
All you libs need to get a job and stop throwing manure on here. Those two be-atches haven't a clue about anything in the real world.
If you are going to comment get your facts straight, McVeigh was an ATHEIST, not a Christian. He bombed the Federal building in retaliation for the Waco incident at the Branch Dividian Compound. The World Trade Center was attacked by followers of Islam, it was cheered by members of Islam, it was NOT condemned by members of Islam. Now, if Islam did not attack, who did? Hindu, Buddhist? Who do you blame? Extremest Islam, who are the moderates speaking against the extremest?
Sorry folks but all these comments saying violence is a perversion of Islam are simply nonsense. Violence is prescribed by their doctrine repeatedly and unabashedly. Good observant Muslims are violence prone. Don't even bother with all the replies about the crappy stuff in the king james either... yes I agree. Drawing parallels to ugliness we're used to makes it no less repulsive.
These two should be fired! How dare they walk off a set of a invited guest and disagree with them and walk off?? How old are they 12? Bill is right, no mosque iin NYC! No Way! But our lame President doesnt have the balls to say no! S o he divides our country even more! What an idiot, 2 more weeks until we get some normalcy in this country.
btw, Barabra I would strongly urge you to reconsider your choice of hosts for your show. Your ratings are at a all time low....now you see why. The Joy show needs to be taken off the air already, who would watch this bitter woman anyway??
When Bush was told about the planes hitting the towers, he did what any backstabbing heel would do, he cowarded out and continued his "book reading" with the black children he obvioulsy does not care about (katrina).. the whole 10 minutes he was stalling while ammerica was being "attacked" he was probably thinking in his tiny brain.. "Wow this is really happening, I can't believe it, they really went through with it.. I'm going to be a hero just like we planned"... Any real american president would have dropped what he was doing right away to get CONTROL of his country... But when you are a part of the plan, you have to play your part.
WOW, You really need to lay of the Kool-aid. Bush finished reading rather than rush out and frighten the children he was reading too. Bush was in on 9/11 and left Black people to drown in New Orleans because he hates Blacks. Man you need to get out more, the fresh air would do you good. You are no better than the people who keep yelling Obama is not a citizen and he is a Muslim. We do not need that kind of rhetoric from either side.
Liberals think that every Christian is to blame for the Oklahoma city bombing but if a muslim blows up a night club then its a different kind of muslim
@Jeffy (and potentially others posting here), I think you've lost sight of something fundamental. Timothy McVeigh didn't kill hundreds of innocent people on behalf of Christianity. I don't believe the "Muslims that killed us on 9/11" can assert this same claim. Albeit extremists, they did kill on behalf of their religion. The statement is accurate a stated and I don't believe O'Reilly intended to belittle an entire religion based on that statement. If he were going to follow through on that, I believe he would have chosen a better venue, like perhaps his own show.
Whoopi and Joy are complete boneheads, and their actions don't surprise me. Why anyone watches these clowns in the morning is beyond me. They have nothing of significance to offer, except a forum for morning gossip and senseless chatter.
Whoppi and Joy embarrassed themselves yet again – they are a detriment to the show and Barbara should cut them booth loose. They are unprofessional and ignorant. Here we go, It's Rosie all over again.
Who in the world cares what the pinheads on the view think? They are offended by anything or anyone conservative. If they are so unsure of their beliefs that they can't stay and debate, then I question the validity of their beliefs. Hence, I really don't care what they have to say or what they think about anything. I guess it's just more of the old free speech for me and not for thee....
Just because a person states they are christian doesn't mean they are christian. Just because some state they are muslim doesn't mean they are muslims. If a person commits an act we cannot state religion (can be skewed by localized religious leaders) Nationality, etc. as the reasoning without knowing the details. Many factors working together or in singularity can produce different responses in different people. As an example, those 9/11 attackers could have been devil worshipers utilizing the facade of the Muslim religion to validate their actions. We have no way of knowing.
This act being played out in the media for every issue ; "black or white", "off or on". "this or that", "pro or Anti" is becoming very boring.. Life and its problems rarely have only polar solutions and in my opinion require complex solutions from a free thinking society....
Bill was wrong, but Joy and Whoopi need to learn how to tolerate insensitive remarks. They're big girls, they should be able to take it, stand their ground and speak their mind. Storming off didn't accomplish anything. As for Bill's comments, as I stated previously he was wrong. Would he have stood by and allowed all Catholics to be accused of murdering British people because of the actions of the IRA? Of course not, he would have said that the IRA was an extremist group that twisted the teachings of Catholicism and Christianity to justify the murder of innocent civilians. The same principle applies in this case, but Bill doesn't want to see that, because he makes a living off of stirring the pot. If he's fair minded and considers that most religions have nutjobs who hijack the teachings and use them to justify evil, but it wouldn't sell as many books, would it? And worst of all, he would then be in agreement with that Socialist, Hitler Incarnate, Barrack Obama! Heaven forbid!
I agree with Whoopi and Joy they should leave if someone is generalizing comments instead of pointing the finger directly at who was responsible, the Muslim extremists.
I do not watch that show. It is a bunch of idiot women who all cackle and run their mouth at the same time. When you have that many talking at the same time how do you know what they are saying ? Anyway it is just left propaganda they spew anyway.
It is true that Muslims caused 9/11. It is also true that they were extreme. However, these terrorists used their religion as the reason for the attack, claiming the US (a country of many religions and races) was biased against Muslims. To try to cover up the facts in order to be politically correct is disturbing. Reilly was right and Whoopi and Joy acted like petulant children in walking out. How many times have they made a visitor squirm with their attacks on their guest's views.
Do you know why muslims in this country are so nice? BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IN CHARGE HERE!
so all the Liberal whack jobs say that a person who calls themselves one walks into a night club and blows it up they think that every christian is at fault but if a muslim blows up a club then oh no its a different kind of muslim and not every muslim is bad
The discussion today isn't the real issue. Bill was an invited guest of the View. Whoopi and Joy both need to learn manners. They behaved as children playing in the sandbox who are not getting their own way ... so they run off. Joy has gotten worse and worse. Ladies, please learn to disagree without being disagreeable or I would recommend that Barbara fire Joy and Whoopi for viewer abuse !!! ( I would not miss them .)
While there are moderate Muslims, there is no moderate Islam. The religion was founded on violence 1400 years ago. The Quran, Hadith and Sira (biographies of Mohammad) are filled with hatred for non-Muslims. Muslims who say different are lying to non-Muslims who haven't read Muslim texts. Commands to disrespect, convert, conquer or kill non-Muslims are so common in Muslim texts, you'd have to be brainwashed or blind not to see them. O'Reilly was more correct than the View: While not all Muslims are killers, Islam commands Muslims to kill.
Bill ORiely is an ass. Why do people insist on arguing about who's god is right when all sides believe their god is right, obviously god can not be on all sides, maybe he is not on any side. Maybe he does even exist.
Bill's a pot sturer, but yes, inserting "extremists" should been all that was needed to chill those two ding-dongs that walked off. They over reacted, but they are not characters expetec to hold up much grace anyways. Bill knoew what he was saying, has a right to, and THEY asked HIM to come on the show. Deal with it Whoopi, it's reality.
First, let me apologize. I haven't had the time to read everybodys comments so what I'm about to say may be redundant, but, lately it seems to me that more and more people are labeled as idiots, or racists, or whatever you care to call them IF they disagree with selected points of view, or speak their opinions; especially if they are against what is considered mainstream or politically correct. After reading the above article, what the hosts of "The View" did was, in my opinion, an attempt at censorship. America was founded on the concept of FREEDOM OF SPEACH, and I defend that. I may not agree with your point of view, but I'll defend your right to say it. If we lose the ability to have an open discussion, regardless of the topic, then everyone in this nation will be the losers. Imagine how Whoppi, or any other talk show host for that matter, would react if they were subjected to the same treatment as that endured by Mr. O'Reilly.
Just an opinion.
Well, I am surprised all 3 of the bleeding heart liberals on The View did not walk off. At least Walters was a journalist before she became and entertainer and is used to hearing stuff opposing views. And yes, extremest Muslims did kill us on 9-11, so I see no harm in what Bill said.
They should not have walked off even though he is an IDIOT! What they should have done is the same thing he does and will probably do on his show tonight with the tape from this show....EDIT to give him the last word and make him look better.
O'Reilly is an idiot. The women should not walk away just becasuse they disagree with a guest. But he is not wrong that muslims killed americans on 9/11 . And uslims are still killing american all over the world
Why do people keep going on this pitiful show? The person that has to get Whoopi ready for the show each day (make-up, clothing, etc) should be the one walking out. She should shave her butt,and walk backwards.
You are the classless azz......
Jeffy – that's a stupid argument and you are a stupid fool!
This just shows everyone how childish (and wrong) the left really is.
and your post shows what a moron you really are
Maybe they walked off because they were afraid they were going to throw-up? I mean I think I would if I were sitting that close to a belligerent, hateful, ignorant blowhard racist like the billmaster... LOL Lighten up folks – it's all show business! No one really takes O'Reilly seriously, do they? OMG – some folks do? NOW is the time to be afraid – very afraid....
There's the liberals all inclusive argument YET AGAIN. Racist. Truly very pathetic but expected.
Ah boo hoo 'big john'. what is really pathetic is your refusal to accept bill for what he is. Has nothing to do with liberal or conservative – but your wanting to put it on that level is excepted.
Political correctness is a disease, a plague in this country that should be eradicated.
But only for you it appears.................
O'Reilly was condescending and rude! imagine he told Joy ' listen up, you could learn something...' I turned off the show today because his responses infuriated me. I found he was insulting to all the hosts. I am surprised Joy did not walk off when he said that!
How long until we dedicate a day or month each year for Muslim Awareness – in honor of recognizing and educating americans on the Muslim religion?
Thank God there are still women who are smart enough to walk off the set when right wing nut Bill O'reilly is on making his outrageous claims. Good for them. Everyone knows he is the point man for Fox Entertainment (I refuse to call it news) which is owned by Rupert Murdock, managed by Roger Ailles, the former Chairman of the Republican party, and is the mouth piece for the right wing Republican party.
I think the whole thing was staged by the ladies on the view. What a way to grab headlines and keep the people watching.
At the very least it was rude, at the very most it was ignorant.
Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian. At least he wasn't a practicing Christian. He didn't murder the people during the Kansas City bombing because of a belief in God. He murdered them because of Waco, Ruby Ridge, etc.
The fact is that the Muslim bombers were nutcase extremists who murdered people in the name of their religion. Big difference here folks.
What if he said...
"Men killed 2500 Americans in the name of Islam on on 9/11."
The whole thing is not very sympathetic. Ground zero is a memorial to lost lives.
Kind of like the Vietcong wanting to build a center in front of the Vietnam memorial.
I live in the South where for some sad reason every TV in every public locale is tuned to the vapid brainwashing of Fox News. O'Reilly and his compatriots have made a fortune bashing everything that is possibly not white, wealthy, and Christian. It is like a news network for the masses of brain dead and downtrodden folks looking to get excited about something or angry at someone. It takes them away from their hard and tough lives. He is fodder for more war, racism, big business profits and hatred of our country by the rest of the world.
It is a shame that none of the lost masses following this lot (O'Reilly, Palin, Beck, Cheney) realize that each of these people are getting incredibly wealthy, privledged, and famous off the ignorance of their followers.
Time for America to wake up and realize that we are part of something much larger than ourselves and to understand that the rest of the world sees us a fools and followers.
I like Whoopi Goldberg, but this is odd. She thought the michael vick thing was way out of proporton and really a non-issue, but no one seemed to mind that. double standard?
The Center has the right to be there period! our laws say as much.
Oh my these ladies need to grow up. If its not "their" opinion then they are big babies! Grow up!
I guess walking off the set makes good ratings.
You know its ok for them to be mean to Republicans (since they aren't ones) and demean a whole group, but Bill O'Reilly who is on a "talk" show can't state his opinion? They need to get off their high horses.
I don't see a real problem with putting a mosque near ground zero.
But, in the interests of togetherness, let's let all religions put up "cultural centers" there.
If the Muslims are really serious about world peace, then allow a Jewish Temple and a Christian church be built on either side. After all, people of all religions died on 9/11.
Why only allow one religion to be represented?
Bill O Reilly is as 'extreme' as the 'exremists' of 9/11, minus the airplanes...he is now and has always been a horses' ass. He is lucky that in America you can speak your mind 'freely' but it does not mean that we have to listen. I would NEVER tune in to a segment of his on any show unless I was in nedd of some punishment of some sort.
The View is one of the dumbest ideas for a show ever. I know...let's put a bunch of hens on a stage and let them cluck until an hour's time is up. Bill O'Reilly is a fool for going on that show anyway but why do we care what an idiot like him says?
Please, Bill O'Reilly is a hate monger. He is barely a class above the Jerry Springer show. Don't give this drama queen a minute of press.
When a rooster enters the hen house, a few chickens will get their feathers ruffled.
There is a word for Mr O'Reilly, Fool. A Fool in the morning is a Fool at night. No matter how you dress him up in a suit and how educated he try's to talk a Fool is and will always be a FOOL.
The ladies on the view ALWAYS over react, that is why I do not watch that show......
O'Reilly just uses his show to sell his books and trinkets. How can anyone really take him that serious?
For what reason Bill O'Reilly wasted an evening to be on The View is a big question mark? The show hosts these woman who seem to disagree with those who do not side with them. They uniquely fill the slot frequently with vulgarity and drama. I relate these woman as "two politicians bashing each other as in democrat and republican. The show is a flop and should be thrown off the air!
This is a perfect example of why you can't deal with those who call themselves the "liberal" side. If you're going to invite someone with whom you disagree to appear on your show, at least have the basic, adult courtesy, decency and professionalism to sit through your own show and hear the man out. By inviting your foe on to ambush or otherwise denigrate him by simply walking away, you can't possibly, sanely suggest that the fault of our national impasse rests solely on the shoulders of the "Tea Baggers," "Repuglicans" and "Wingnuts" as you so maturely refer to "those people." Stop behaving like children who can dish it out but can't take it. Let's put the adults back in charge of the media, please.
Thats how Golberg and Bahar like it , its called drowning out your enemys opinion ( intolerence) ,alot of thier fans like it that way they are what they call Orielly.
Way to go Bill! Thanks for sticking with what you believe and speaking the truth.
BFD, they're all entertainers. This will boost both shows' ratings, and that had to be at least a minor consideration.
A bit later he brought up the proposed Islamic center in New York, which is set to be built close to ground zero. People have been praying there for over a year. It's not a building where nothing is currently going on. Aside from that, he is trying to sell a book and that's where controversy comes in. He shouldn't demean a whole religion unless he has proof a whole religion believes the same. I don't believe they do. As far as Whoopi and Joy's action in leaving the set, I believe that was wrong, too. Free speech is what he practiced, right or wrong, and they could have stayed there and discussed that view versus going off set. The women of The View get pretty full of themselves far too often for this viewer.
Oh Mrs. O'Reilly, why did you Not abort?
They should have not invited Riley to the show....period...Whoopi needs to go.....Elizabeth needs to go....This show has went down hill...Who's view it anyways...Just theirs!...Not mine or yours....this show does not even resolve issues...they just keep bringing up topics or should I say gossip only they are interested in...oh by the way...the producer should be let go....this show stinks
Hello people it's TV. Anyone who doesn't realize these stunts are choreographed down to the split second (allowing for commercial breaks, of course) is living in the 1950's.
There's no differewnce between the far left and the far right, neither side well listen to the other and both think anyone who doesn't agree with them are idoit and unamerican.
Not only should Whoopi and Joy be fired but have to go on Bill O'Reilly's show and apologize to him and the country and admit publicly what PINHEADS they are!!!!
Strip away all the periphery and see this for what it is... completely juvenile behavior from elitist overpayed brats who ridicule and revile anyone who doesn't see the world exactly as they do. Pathetic!
This is the best description I have ever read of the college educated, elitist media millionaire O'Reilly.
Educated, rich and he berates the families of 9/11 victims on his show for ratings.
Elitist ? Yup.
Still not sure what was offensive. The 911 terrorists weren't Lutheran. If they were, it would have been totally appropriate to say "Lutherans" attacked us on 911. Fake rage on the part of the two ladies.
I lost all respect for the View and stopped watching when they began making political statements daily and criticized anyone that didn't agree with their "views". Elizabeth is the only professional one and only when provoked does she state her political views. I wish Barbara Walters would step back, breathe and take a good look at what the View has become. They are an embarrasement.
Muslim extremist is to Muslim as Christianity is to the KKK. To say that those terrorists from 9/11 are a reflection of the whole Muslim community is like saying the whole Christian community are in the KKK. As a Christian male I feel O'Reillys comment was asinine, immature, and inappropriate.
Who watches The View"? The show is just a group of silly women spouting political rhetoric.
Im not a huge fan of O'reilly, but Whoopi is a waste of entertainment air time and a whining baby.
First of all, look at the too goons that walked off. The View is about as liberal as you can get. They never agree with anyone on the right and like most liberals, they can't have a conversation with anyone against their views. Kind of reminds me of Pelosi and Ried.
Muslims did drive airplanes into the world trade center. Get over the PC BS. These people did it in the name of their God and they will continue to do in the name of their God. Building a mosque near ground zero is the wrong thing to do even though they have every right to do it. Just like that crazy preacher in Florida had every right to burn the Koran but would have been the wrong thing to do. I'm tired of people tap dancing around Muslims and the Islam faith. What I think is funny is that people condom the Tea Party and label the whole movement but of a few knuckleheads then get upset when a few knuckleheads from the Muslim religion go rouge and we say something about Muslims. LOL...Get over your PC self!!!
O'Rielly is usally a pretty fair guy. O'Rielly ... you are the patriot...while the View....lol.....well...they are liberals.....Pinheads with out a doubt!!!
What he said WAS inappropriate, I think. But this *IS* a talk show, and he was saying what HE felt, whether it was right or wrong. I think Babs said it right in that he can't group a whole religion based on the ugly extremists. Walking off did show unprofessionalism, and it was sending a message that "if you don't say what WE want to hear, I'm out of here!". I can't stand Whoopi anyway, so I wish she would just keep on walking! Anyway, this isn't the first time Bill has said many inappropriate things, and since they invited him knowing this, they should be able to discuss it in a professional way. Not walk off.
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Bill O is an idiot and everyone knows it. But, I feel that the hosts of that show needed to stay put and not walk out. I would not be surprised to learn that they planed the walk off! Tomorrows show ratings will be very high, same thing happened when Rosie and the blond republican argued. The ratings went through the roof for a while which makes oddles of money for the show!!
The people that attacked us on 9/11 were not Muslims. They are murderers. And murder is not a muslim ideal. To call them Muslim is to call Timothy McViegh or Charles Manson a Christian. Those extremist are no different then American extremist who pretend to be Christian.
I'm not a fan of O'Reilly (nor am I a hater), but I think Joy and Whoopi were ridiculously unprofessional. Give me a break! Walking off the set?? Puh-lease!! If it takes that little to upset them to that extreme action, then they have no business hosting a talk show.
These women preach tolerance all the time, how about showing some.
saying muslims killed us on 9/11 is like saying Christians killed the Jewish people during WWII. It's simplistic and meant to incite people- that's what Bill does, and whoopi, and and all these other dimwitted entertainers. Kettle.Pot.Black
Heh. What boob a) puts any credence in that "show" and b) can say with a straight face there's no liberal media bias? They were practically giving O'bozo BJs but they show blatant contempt and disdain for McCain and O'Reilly. And that, dear "progressives," is why nothing is getting done. We're not working with you across the aisle because we will never share your airheaded values, two-faced behavior and adolescent worldview.
O'Really is a total nut job – cookoo for cocoa puffs. He is a suitable face for the T-Baggers!
Stating "Muslims killed us on 9/11" is as technically correct as stating "Jews killed Jesus".
This like more examples than I can explain here perfectly illustrate why all RELIGION should be banned from our lives completely, which I know would be impossible, but it could be pushed back to where it belongs, CHURCHS, MOSQUES, SYNOGOUGES, TEMPLES and other places of worship and homes and no where else... Christians scream about how brutal Islam is, when the Bible is filled with, and promotes from its very beginning to its horrible end, Murder, Slavery, Physical and Verbal Abuse of Children and Spouses and War after War after horrible brutal War in the name of GOD. Just as the Torah does and the Koran as well....... It amazes me that so many profess such heart felt love for something most of them have never read, or they carelessly pick and chose what is valid now and valid to them as it serves their own personal use.. READ THESE BOOKS, if they were made into movies from what they actually say on their pages, which would be the only way many would really know what is in them, they would be the most brutal bloody movies ever made and most of you wouldn't be able to sit through them nor would you let your children see them, I would bet most RELIGIOUS LEADERS would NOT allow or want a movie made that depicted what these books really say and stood for ...... The LOVE you all profess is for yourself and your own gain not for a GOD or RELIGION.....
AMEN! I'm proud of you! ...and I live in Arizona. Imagine that!
F VCK IT! WE'LL DO IT LIVE!!!
I have to admit that I am mostly shocked by the lack of respect and the name calling on this board. It is ridiculous and if this is what Americans are like then I am very sad right now.
Yes, the ladies were acting unprofessional. However, O'Reilly is a very hateful man. He is a man with absolutely no respect for other people. Every time he opens his mouth he spews nothing but hate.
Obama is king! It takes a real man to try and follow that baboon.. George W is a loser and he crushed America for his own personal gain.. destroyed everything.. he should be shot.. George W is the real fkin terrorist.. And all you fools voted for him
Respect, is all it boils down to. People need to respect the President, you don't have to agree but you should respect his position. Bill needs to respect those Muslims that are here in this country working hard everyday and living their lives. They did have anything to do with 9/11. I don't blame them for leaving because it was probably better that they did for everyone's sake. This is how he makes money causing controversy, he feeds on people emotions and try to get those that can't and won't think for themselves to agree with him.
All muslims need to be exterminated like rats and roaches.
Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg are not Americans; they celebrate when Americans lose their lives or their freedoms. These vile animals should be curbed; how any self respecting American could ally themselves with these animals that believe our American history and traditions should be changed in favor of a social welfare state is most unsettling . They are the poster children for the dumbing down of the American intellect and will. They remind me of diaherrea.
I think both sides erred – O'Reilly should have clarified "extremists" – he does it frequenly on the Factor. But likewise, for Whoopi, who is usually tolerant of other people's views, to lose it and walk out, was a surprise. Less a surprise from Behar, who hates anything that doesn't agree with her progressive-colored view of the world. But it was thoroughly unprofessional for both to walk out. And Walters was right to admonish both of them on TV – they had it coming.
There is a lot of name calling going on here and you call yourself adults? God help us if our goverment acted like you guys with your hateful posts. I remember years ago 60 mins did a show about men from other countrys coming to the USA to learn how to fly our planes and what might happen because of it. When I was on my way to work and heard on the radio what had happened on 9/11 that story came to my mind and I knew they were right. Anyone willing to commit murder for their religion is so WRONG! I know of no God that would condone MURDER!
I think it was a ratings hike all around. They've had O'Reilly on before so his personality and views should be no surprise to them. Likewise, some of the hosts of The View also have some radical ideas. Many Americans fall somewhere in between the two extremes here. I can only hope that viewers are able to decipher it all.
O’Reilly – The “Great Pretender”. An indefensible fascist who thinks he‘s a friend of the people and speaks for the people. The hubris of some of these “so-called“ Republicans. He really should to be in charge of some Banana Republic where those who question his draconian ideas or his pitiful scribblings can be beaten into submission... My God what a way to make a living – Shameful…
THIS IS AMERICA. WHAT HAPPENED ON 9/11 WAS BECAUSE OF MUSLIMS. IF YOU WANT A MOSK GO TO ANOTHER COUNTRY AND BUILD IT. AND STAY OUT OF AMERICA. WE DON'T WANT YOU HERE.
Luckily, most Americans have a more sophisticated understanding fo the world and a sense of ethics that rejects the notion of collective guilt based solely on religion.
What do you expect from a bunch of Extremist Liberal women who's whole point on th eshow is to stir up conflict. Was to much estrogen on the stage. Bill was dead on and should not have apologized. I don't care what anyone says. THe truth is the truth. America's brand of Islam is totaly different then the rest of the world. They came here because they could not practice it like they wanted to in their own countries. American Muslims are the minority in muslim society. They do not practice it they way it has been practiced for centuries and in the rest of the world. The majority of muslims have spoken loudly. They are the religion of hate.
This is why the view has no credibilty. Can you imagine if O'Reilly had walked out on Goldberg? But you see that would never of happeened.
O'Reilly is seriously lacking when it comes to facts. He fully knows that the Center is not a Mosque alone, but also a multicultural center. The whole focus of the place is to try and repair the rift caused by 9/11 by offering a more moderate view of Islam. Saying that "they" (the entire Muslim faith) killed those victims on 9/11 is like saying that all Christians murdered or agreed with murdering and torturing non-Christians to convert during the Spanish Inquisition. Extremists of ANY faith are individuals and do not represent the religion as a whole.
He knows exactly what he is saying. He is trying to appeal to the redneck idiot Bible Belters who mostly have an IQ below 90 and still believe in things like segregation, isolationism, and read nothing but Fox News.
I wonder why no one is yelling that the Militia nuts killed "US" during the Oklahoma City bombing. I completely understand the anger over 911, however, I don't see anyone going after those nuts running around America trying to overthrow the government.
Wow .... Bill ... you give humans a bad name. Here is my take ... Muslims did not kill anybody, Christians were not going to burn Korans in Florida ...
People who called themselves Muslims and Christians did. Those people were not Muslims and Christians ... a real Muslim is one who submits his own will to that of God ... a Christian is one who submits his will to that of God.
I know some very loving and devout Muslims who wouldn't hurt anyone, I know very few Christians who do as God has commanded in the Bible. None, for that matter who act "Christ"ian (as Christ-like) ... So Bill, crawl under your rock named ignorance. Your views aren't worthy of compassion ... but as a fellow human, I hope you evolve to soon recognize the beauty of our diverse world and that you also someday understand there are no true God-like humans. Jesus asks you to love your neighbor ... regardless of skin color or faith. We must love our enemies and show them what makes us different.
O'Reilly had facts. Joy and Whoopi had lack of " View " This is what Joy Behar does, she does not agree she either cuts you off or as of now she walks out. To me this showed that she had no way to defend nor provide facts so she choose to walk off....... The poll Joy if you must know was done by CNN 70% does NOT
Bill was wrong as usual. I changed from being a conservative to a liberal, did any of you look into the eyes of the parents of a 19 year old as they wheeled their son down the hall of a hospital their son with one arm and one leg missing,or watch as burn victims are going through rehab? I have. All for a war that never should have been,awar good old Bill and his Fox friends supported. Did any of you look back and check the price per barrel of oil in 2000 it was around 15 dollars, then check out the price in the summer of 2008 I think it was around 147 dollars a barrel......mmmmm 8 years.Just who did it hurt, the little guy , and who did it help? And who supports all the big business, of course it is Bill and all his Fox friends. The conservative right of this country is so full hate and bigotry! I have never seen as much racism coming from the right wing of our government as now. So all you right wingers out ther who complain of losing your jobs etc. look to big business who shipped your Jobs overseas and then look to see who gave them a free pass!!!
I think Joy, & Whoopi did right by walking away from O'Reilly. O'Reilly, Beck, & Hannity are a bunch of idiots!! You can't blame all the muslims for what happened on 9/11. I totally agree with Whoopi, & Joy. No sense in arguing with a FOOL!!!
That to show who's professional on their jobs... Most of those loud mouths, gossiping women on "the Views" don't represent the rest of the real American women in this country. For Babara Walter to insult another guest on the show even she didn't share the same view to refered which is it a pin head or a patriot? I thought she was a classy woman but no more. I can tell this show is trash and I didn't watch it after Rosie was on. I happen to flip the channel and saw O'Reilly was on. How sad for America to have a network to choose a immoral women to run that show. Our country go down to the BIG HOLE because of the Liberals. SAD, SAD, SAD...............
McVeigh "pulled the trigger" alone and he had very little help in assembling his bombs. One of his trio, Forteir, refusdd to help once McVeigh made his plans known.
While the everyday Muslim is (probably) no more prone to committing acts of violence than everyday Christians, the fact is that a greater number of Muslims support, however secretly, the action of the extremists than do in most other religions. The middle-east knows no peace and hasn't in thousands of years. Even today, the violence between Muslin sects is non-stop. The Sunni and Shia kill each other regularly - and they are both Muslim!
Do Christian sects have thousand-plus year old blood feuds? How many Baptist churches are bombed by, say, Catholics in a given week?
Islam, more than any other religion, prescribes not only strident theology but an entire way of life and regards other religions, and even other Islamic sects, as heretics that must be eliminated.
Personally, I believe all organized religion is BS. I believe in GOD, but not religion!
It's a "fact" that Muslims "secretly" support extremism? Man, I wish I had that kind of inside information since public opinion poll after poll show differently.
As an Urban Planner, I'm for the Mosque if it's developed as a Mixed-Use Project and the building is LEED certified....
The whole thing was pre-planned to generate another stupid debate from ABC Network. Whoopi & Joy do not give damn about anything anyway. One is Pot loving bi*%^ & another dope (MONEY) bi%$&.
I completely agree with whoopi, He was completely out of line! Muslims killed us. Really? Did they all come over here and kill us? If that's the case it would be fair for blacks to say Whites killed us right? Sometimes people need to think before they speak.
Do people say Christians killed the Jews during the holocaust? Of course not, the Nazi's did. Were the Nazis not self prolaimed Christians? Ok, Class, all together now: Bill is an idiot entertainer and should know that AL Qaeda caused 9/11, not Muslims, just like the Nazi's killed the Jews, not the Christians – Although I can wonder aloud what religion has caused more death and misery than Christianity, can I not, Mr. O'Reilly? Pinhead. Of course, the View is a bunch of annoying women, so they're really perfect for each other.
Fergie since your a dumbacrat one of the worst things you did is putting that moron in office. He couldn't be in charge of a student council much less the President of the United States. It's ok Fergie he's already proving he can't do it and it's going down hill from here.
Bill went on the show to make MONEY by selling his book – free publicity (and see, he got what he wanted) Bill loves money! Obama inherited a lot of the problems in this country and people are stupid enough to think that he was going to snap his fingers and magically everything would be better. How stupid...it took time to make this mess, it's going to take time to fix it.
that is such a simplistic thought. you are not taking into consideration that Obama's policies are not working and they are not economically friendly to anyone. how much time are you going to give Obama? 1 year, 2 years, 3 or 4? things are getting worse, not better as he promised his stimulus package would. quite frankly, he is another empty suit no better than any of the other politicians we have in office. He is actually worse in my opinion because he campaigned on truth and transparancy and he has delivered non of that.
oh how dare o'reilly go on the view to promote a book he wrote and wants to sell! ooh that is so wrong of him! Did you ever think of the fact that The View invited him on? duh. Also, he has been on The View many times before, this wasn't the first time. At least O'reilly is creating something and selling it. He can only make money on it if people buy it! I'd rather have him do that than live off my dime!
@Dave- "All terrorists are Muslims"? Really? Tim McVeigh, Terry Nichols and Michael Fortier? Ted Kacyznski? Eric Rudolf, another Army vet? Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold? James W. Von Brunn? Andrew Joseph Stack III? All of them, US citizens, all of them terrorists, none of them Muslims.
But the 19 perpetrators of 9/11 were all Muslim
The hosts need to suck it up!! They dish the criticism on a daily basis. They need to learn how to take it as well. Yes, Bill could have been more precise, for sure. They were wanting to down him from the start. That's why they had him on the show. The View is nothing but a joke, anyway. Drama Queens at their best....which isn't much.
Folks, Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian. He himself said that he was agnostic. He was not driven by Christian fanatics. The 9/11 terrorists were self proclaimed muslims and did what they did in the name of allah.
Guinan would have handled the situation better.
Whoopi lost her objectivity a long time ago. Kudos to Barbara for her professionalism. They all knew ahead of time why Bill was there and he's never been shy voicing his opinions. Many Americans agree with him, it might be legal but it's bad form to build an Islamic Center so near the wound of 9/11. Also, many Americans have lost their private property rights to whatever land use will bring in the higher property tax. Seems like the government just can't accommodate Muslims enough.
An illustration of why America is failing as Rome did. We the People are giving airtime to knuckleheads like this guy because of the controversy. He loves the controversy, it sells his books. If We the People stopped giving air time to people who's egos are needy for all the air time, and paid attention to people with practical experience, we'd be in a better place.
First, Whoopi and Joy are fanatic progressives ( liberals ) and are in it ALL for show. Has anyone seen Bill O'Reilly stomp off his show because a guset made an outrageous statement ? These women are entertainers not journalists.
Both started as comedians, and perhaps that's what they should perhaps stick to. Bill said what he said for effect, and the effect probably far exceeded his expectations. He probably anticipated some strong response and some spirited debate – instead got some "bush league" antic from two ladies who should have stuck to stand up.
It's all good for everyone – ABC gets ratings, Bill sells more books, and "The View" looks more and more like "big time wrestling".
Its true that people should not generalize any community. But why does america sympathize so much with islam. You find people making fun of Hindus constantly which is the most peaceful religion that introduced Yoga, meditation and peace to the world. India has all religion living secularly together with temples, churches and mosques side by side. Whereas in Pakistan which split from India in 1947 had Hindu population that is missing now and I wonder what happened to them? forcefully converted... killed..I wonder. I
Whoopi and Joy should be fired. They don't understand why the Mosque is being built. The name of the Mosque is Cordoba. In the 8th century, the Muslims defeated the Christains and destroyed the Christain Church of Saint Vincent located in Cordoba, Spain. In place of the church the Muslims built a great Mosque to celebrate their victory over the Christains. History shows that Muslims built hundreds of Mosque over Christain and Jewish holy landssites as Muslims conquered the lands. What a more appropriate act than build a Mosque two blocks from ground zero to show the Muslim world a defeat of the infidels or non-believers of Islam. American Muslims clerc Zaid Shakir said at a San Francisco meeting, "If we put a nationwide infrastructure in place and marshaled our resources, we'd take over this country in a very short time." "First infiltrate and convert and then use deception and propaganda, put on a friendly face until the time is right and then drive a sword in their backs." Americans need to not trust the liberals of Whoopi Goldberg and Joy Behar.
Joy and Whoopi are both obnoxious!! I watched this show sometimes when it first came on the air but quickly decided I didn't care for it. It would be best if this show was taken off the air...it would not be missed!
How many times have I sat and listened to Bill O on his show (my poor mom watches him) and heard him make gross, twisted mistatements and outright lies almost for sport. This is the problem with the Republican Party today: no one has the courage to stand up to their twisted half truths and outright lies, their slander and their insinuations. It is grossly irresponsible for someone in his position to make a statement like "Muslims killed us on 9/11" knowing full well that there are too many prejudiced, racist or simply uninformed and gullible Americans listening and willing to believe anything that a so-called expert says. He should have been called out and made to clarify his statement. I would have had a very hard time sitting and listening to him, too. And Obama and the Dems have done a hell of a fine job considering the disaster that GWB dumped on them!
Hi jamie, how was Bill's statement incorrect? He was stating it was improper for Muslims to build a mosque/cultural center at/near ground zero because muslim's killed american's on 9/11. that is the truth. People wanted him to clarify that they were extremists, and yes they were muslim extremists. I see so many stupid people bloggin how Oh Timothy McVeigh was Christian should we blame all Christians for the Oklahoma city bomibing?? The difference is, is that Tim McVeigh did not bomb Oklahoma city in the name of Christianity. He was a government anarchist at most. These muslim extremists executed their 9/11 plot in the NAME of Islam and their religion. I'm sorry, but until muslims get together and start publicly condeming this part of their religion, they will not be trusted by the majority of americans or even others throughout the globe. Trust is a 2 way street, and they need to earn our trust back, as a religion. Yes they have a right to build, but it's in poor form right now. Their religious leaders need to explain why this extreme view of Islam has taken such a hold over their religion. Obviously there must be something in their religion that causes such division. and no i'm not a racist i dont hate anyone just because of their religion, it's just what i see. Look at the UK and the Netherlands, France and Denmark and look at the problems they are having their with Islam extremists. It's becoming a huge problem and these countries liberal policies have allowed them to take over and start demanding sharia law.
Billl is an experinced TV journalist who knew exactly what he was saying. Whoopi and Joy should have been able to hold their composure. The Muslims should be able to build their Community Center wherever they choose. Americans who oppose their right to do so should "look at the man in the mirror" and try to be a better person.
ya okay.. you're ignorant if you believe a bunch of muslims in a cave outsmarted NORAD, hijacked 3 planes and took down america.. hahahahah You need religion if you believe that hogwash.. do some research... no plane was found at the pentagon, no plane was found in Penn.. You say you saw all the muislims jumping around for joy during 9/11.. you believe this because your governamnet run Media showed you a small clip of some people celebrating? C'mon now.. you are all thick-headed.. it's too easy to manipulate a community when you CONTROL the media.. Fire from jet fuel does not melt steel, the towers did not fall like a pancake (as they tell us).. it was BLOWN TO PIECES by explosives.. .. What about Bin Laden???? Why can't we get him? Because he works for us, he is a tool for us and our media to put fear in the hearts of americans and thus to get you all to support useless wars... Support our troops,, HA! I support them coming home.. but they are fighting FOR NOTHING! They've been duped! It's so easy to see...
I think it was pinheaded to have that fool on the show to begin with. Why give that man another platform from which to spread his divisive, hateful filth.
I love both Whoopi and Joy but they were very wrong to walk off the set – and very immature. A grown adult should be able to stand their ground and defend their position – not walk off like a petulant teenager. Tsk tsk on both of you. While I don't agree with what was said, he has a right to say what he wants and did you really expect any different from him? Maybe you should have excused yourself from being on the show at all when you found out he was your guest. Remember that – he was your GUEST. Manners please.
Wake up America; O'Reilly and the secret corporate paymasters buying this election cycle beihnd Rove and US Chamber of Commerce want to install GOP to steal your money. They have zero interest in your life. Hate and fear via their control of the media are their methods; they're desperately feeding your thoughtless rage to steal your vote, via which they'll take your money. Exactly as they did under Bush.
So I guess according to the logic of those that support Bill O'Reilly then it is ok for Palestinians to hate the US since the bombs that kill them say Made in the USA, I guess Americans killed them. I guess it is alright for blacks all over the world to hate whites because hey Whites enslaved them and killed them. I guess it is ok for all Native Americans to hate whites because hey they enslaved them, brought disease to them, and comitted genocide against them. O'Reilly knew what he was doing. He is paid to incite anger and bigotry with his audience. He knows what he is saying is incorrect. He was making the acts of a few tghe acts of a whole segment of the population. He knew the repurcussions. Whoopi walking off as well as Joy Behar was unprofessional but this is the view and the show makes its money off of these types of reactions. Just like O'Reilly makes his with his off the cuff and incensing commentary. So I guess Beck, Hannity, Sustern, Limbaugh and the rest of their ilk are all adulterers. Hey O'Reilly is a conservative talk show host, he committed adultery, I guess the others are too.
I have listened to O'Reilly before, he is long winded, and a disgrace to the American people. He encourages racism! profiling! and an insult to people's intelligence. He is lucky that his show is still on.....what a total waste of $$$$ and energy. I applaud ANYONE who walks off the show, since you are dealing with a total idiot trying to cause problems amongst the people.....
Isnt Whoopi Goldberg jewish? The view is a joke and so are the co host. O'Riley stated his point and facts are facts.We are suppose to be a country of rule and values, when will American wake up and take the country back.
Folks. Christian this, Muslim that... Why does either have anything to do with the Fed US gov? They (gov) should not be involved in the decision. I don't particularly give a pigs fart whether or not they build a church/mosque/whatever. What i do care about is the fact that you all feel it is nec for our President to comment at all. He should say, " not my jurisdiction, we have states and municipalities to deal with this... I have bigger fish to fry" and he sort of did. FYI, I voted for McCain and would again.
The only way leftist like Goldberg and Behar can continue to believe their idiotic mantra is to refuse to listen to any argument that does not jive with the fantasy world they live in. So instead of taking the disagreement head on, they run from it. Typical left-wing move.
It's all a matter of wording, and a lot of people are too ignorant to realize that. Yes, the people who committed the 9/11 attacks were Moslem, but to say "Moslems committed the 9/11 attacks" is stereotyping (the proper sentence would be "the people who committed the 9/11 attacks are Moslem.") For those who disagree: the man who shot Ronald Reagan was Christian; does that make it appropriate to say "A Christian shot Ronald Reagan"?
Alene Greto your as dumb as Whoopi Goldberg. I can't believe you think he's done a fantastic job what world are you living in. But you voted for him so your as stupid as he is.
Bill makes a fool out of every one who watches him. Even he doesn't believe what he says. He spouts all his garbage with a smirk meanwhile laughing all the way to the bank because he knows his groupies hang on every word that comes out of his mouth. The combination of 24 hour news and the internet has made stupid more stupid because now they put their teeny, tiny minds together like a cancer. A true patriot is committed to becoming an informed citizen and listening to many points of view. The right wing pathos and fury are eerily like pre-WWII Germany. You are lemmings following the devils (Rush, Bill, Sarah) who are making millions off your ignorance and lack of vision. Our founding father's would despise you. You only talk of tearing down. You have no vision because you have no hindsight and you refuse to hold those who got us here for their actions.
My fellow "American" I hardly know you.
I agree with Barbara Walter said about open dialogue. Not a complete fan of all three in the scuffle... And not surprised it happened. As a great friend of mine always says: "Honey, if nothing else at least they're consistent in their behaviours. Bless their hearts."
Anyway:
My question is this: I am Catholic and if a small extremist Catholic sect was going against the "peaceful norms of my faith" and making my religion look really, really bad with mass murders, car bombings, airplane bombings, etc., etc. – I would fom or want to be part of a non-stop massive campaign of all other Catholics to stand up against it and say – "This has got to stop! We are a religion of peace, you are not following the truths of our faith".
Where is any of this going on within the mainstreem Muslim faith??
I don't care for O'Reilly but he played that group like a fiddle. Come on Whoopi be a little smarter than the average bear.
I will start watching The View when they get rid of those two dipwits!
It’s funny that some posts here are complaining about the View hosts’ professionalism. Have they forgotten that O’Reilly is the guy who cuts peoples microphones and throws them off his show if they dare disagree with him?
O'Reilly is AWESOME!!! I love that he did that of the VIEW. They need to be shooken up a little. If you don't watch O'Reilly your missing out. This guy is the real deal.
Isn't it funny how certain shows and networks pretend to be voices of moderation and true news outlets. Then they expose themselves to be just as biased as those they ridicule. I just wish they would abandon their dream that they are nuetral and say we have a liberal interpretation of the news. At least Fox makes their stance clear. These guys are trying to tell us how to think and disguising it as news.
You're all ignorant. America attacked itself. It was not Muslims. The powers that rule the world do it together. It was their idea. They just want us to keep fighting. Though people in Afganistan, Iraq, and Iran have every right to hate us for what we are doing and have done to them, they and their religious beliefs have nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks. Wake up you idiots.
Best comment yet, Taylor. Keep speaking truth.
So since Hitler killed all of those people in holocaust, should we start saying Christians killed them. O'Reilly is just an idiot
FYI
Hitler was an avid follower of astrology and Darwin. The Nazis drew much of their narrative from Germanic mythology.
None of these are Christian beliefs
Majority of The View hosts (4 liberals and 1 conservative – hardly equal footing there) are left liberals so why should their disdain of Bill O'Reilly be a surprise? Whoopie and Joy need to grow up and realize that there are millions upon millions of people who have conservative views and that doesn't make them bad people – just different from them. Walking out is childish and exposes them for what they really are. I stopped watching this show a LONG time ago!
Personally, I am sick of these divas on The View - Behar and Goldberg are the worst of them. And I wouldn't call them "ladies" either. The word I have in mind begins with a "b" and ends with an "h."
If O'Reilly, Whoopi, Joy, Barbara and the others had simultaneously combusted...I would have been interested...and would have clapped. Otherwise, who cares what any of these pinheads do or say?
O'Reilly has done it again and CNN has swallowed it hook, line and sinker. O'Reilly has – of late – become a master at self promotion and promoting his pinhead book. By bringing up the Islamic Center while in New York, O'Reilly knew he would generate press coverage – I'm sure he didn't expect two of his 'hosts' to walk off the set, but even better – more publicity. How about we pay attention to something important – and not to the likes of this so-called pundit who's out hawking his book for sale! For what it's worth – who on this planet really gives a hoot what Bill O'Reilly thinks about anything?
Or "Christians wave signs that say "Thank God for Dead Soldiers" at military funerals. Fringe groups, people, FRINGE groups.
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After reading all the comments all I can say is WOW and laugh out loud! Some of these comments are just too funny and STUPID to take serious. I will say for those who are saying the President is Muslim or was are so wrong. Please get all the facts straight before you post because it makes you sound really ignorant.
Bill says Fox news is fair and balanced but he proved on this show by his comments that he part of the conservative right, just as I've always believed...and he's a pinhead.
I just wish from the bottom of my heart that all Americans do research on what our governments have done to other countries throughout our short history and see how happy you would be if another country did that to us. I am all for protecting our borders and to attack any COUNTRY that attacks us or when an imminent attack is known. However No country attacked us on 9/11 yet thousands of people have died whether it was Iraqi Military/civillians or American/ COalition soldiers. Bill O'Reilly feeds the ignorant in this country so full of hatred that it scares me for our future. I hate to say it but there are a lot of people that think they learn the real truth about what is happening from O'Reilley and Beck . Wake up and smell the coffee before these idiots ruin this great country for us all. Also to answer the question – I could not sit near Bill O'Reilly either if he was spouting igorance.
It's no different than saying "Christians kill doctors who perform abortions." It's true isn't it?
The fact that Joy Behar walked off the stage does not surprise me. I am a bit disappointed in Whoppi's outbreak and walkoff though. I would have expected her to confront him on the Muslim issue.
Like when the Nazis killed the Jews; People today don't correct themselves and use the term "extremists".
To state that Obama "is not and never has been a Muslim" is ridiculous. How does anyone possible know what Pres. Obama has done or is doing behind closed doors. I personally don't think he is but don't be so ignorant to say "he never has been." We have Baptist who are closet drinkers, "good decent people" who molest children, "such a great guy" abuse his wife, "such a wonderful mother" drown her children. So can we not have a Muslim President who hasn't revealed it? Of Course. I'm not comparing being a Muslim to these horrible things what I am doing is saying that we just don't always know what people do, say, believe and practice behind closed doors.
To be offended when we say a Muslim intentionally flew a plane into the WTCs is just being argumentative based on semantics. It's okay to call those terrorists Muslims. Like it's okay to call an abusive Priest a Catholic. Just because a Priest abuses a child doesn't mean every Catholic does!!!! Wake up people.
A group of Muslims killed nearly 3000 people in New York alone. The majority of Muslims in America have stood by and said nothing of the attack. This makes it appear they condone what happened.
If muslims killed us on 9/11, how could we be writing this blog?
I guess if the 19 hijackers were black then he would say the blacks killed us and there should be no NAACP offices allowed in downtown newyork? He loves the guilty by association excuse.
I remember an argument the O got into with Jeraldo Rivera on Fox telling him more hispanics=more crime. Rivera lost it on him.
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The people who attacked us on 9-11 were no more Muslim than David Koresh was a Christian. I don't associate Koresh as a Christian, I associate him as an extremist.
Oops – I said that incorrectly. I meant to say @jimmyc1955 – Yes, you demean a whole religion when you call Christians bigots and fools, but No, from the left that is NOT totally acceptable. In fact, it is not acceptable at all.
Whoopi Goldberg is an idiot anyway she is terrible at everything she does and quite frankly they should fire her for being an idiot.
I won't go to any more of her movies! Wait? What movies?
Muslims committed a brutal attack against the U.S. in 2001. Period. If you think those 19 fools in the planes operated alone you yourself are a bigger fool. They required a huge amount of money, planning, transportation, safe haven, and training. That means a LOT of other Muslims were involved. Muslims, Bob, not Christians, not Jews, not Hindus, not Wiccans – Muslims.
Furthermore, right after the attacks and many times since, Muslim leaders have said we brought the attacks upon ourselves, so they have made excuses for the murderers. Arab princes, imams, and business men have all made that statement, including the idiot ramrodding the giant mosque in NY, which will be seen by many Muslims as a shrine to those murdering Muslims I mentioned a while ago.
For those who bring up the Crusades: Horrible as they were, they were using bows, arrows, swords, catapults – in other words, they did not have a single fool wearing a backpack walking into a market and blowing himself up and killing indescriminately several hundred at a time. Or worse, flying a jet full of people into a skyscrapper and killing thousands at a time. Or even worse, having a nuclear device capable of killing tens of thousands at a time.
Muslims represent a scary scenario – a 4th century mindset with 21st century weapons. And our network of spies, military, etc., are going crazy trying to keep us all safe. Are you libs and politically correct whiners willing to gamble your children's, your parent's, or your grand children's lives in the name of political correctness?
Just say "No!" to Islam.
The two female Liberal pinheads who walked off the set were demonstrating their lock-step ignorance.
Muslims DID kill us on 911.
A Muslim mosque is a center for local government under Sharia law.
The name chosen for the 911 mosque was that of a mosque built as a symbol of conquest.
What is an extremist Muslim and what is a "moderate" Muslim?
Is it one who does not fly a plane into buildings, but only smiles at the event?
Mainstream Islam is filled with stoning's, canings, whippings and the beating of Infidels.
The two walkers would probably have qualified for death by stoning for adultery.
Would either one like to live in Islam under Sharia law?
They are stupid hypocrites.
Blowhard is just another stupid commie puta.
Those who plotted and carried out the terrorist bombing of the Murrow Building in Oklahoma City were Christians. Does that mean one cannot build a church anywhere near that location?
B.S.! That was a militia movement that did it-no certain Christian group.
FYI - McVeigh was agnostic, not Christian. Please check the facts before making such a statement
Idiotic statement reflecting the pinhead who said it.
Muslims murdered a classmate of mine on 9/11. Tell that to his family! There were still Muslims even if they are radicals and extremists. They tried to blow up the World Trade Building in 1993, blew up the USS Cole in 2000, blew up the American Embassy in Africa in 1998, tried to blow up airplanes, blew up subways in the U.K., blew up a disco in Bali, murdered hundreds in Mumbai, etc. What do you people don't undertand?
* They are still Muslims
Given where this country is headed with Taxes and Spending, I wonder how much these overpaid ladies on the View really understand the impact to their monthy paychecks.
I wonder how much Whoopie and Joy are willing to give their fair-share to taxes. The clearly are in a higher income bracket than most people posting here. How much of their income is set aside for charity? How much of their time is seat aside with non-publicized service?
It's purely a guess on my part, but I think very little of their time and income go to those that truly need it. Perhaps if we all took a step back and looked out for our brothers and sisters of all faiths, this country would return to the great nation it used to be. The belief in God and recognician that He provides us with everything serves as a huge first step in getting there. IMHO
Much ado about nothing...both sides received exactly what they wanted out of the exchange...publicity
Typical behavior for these "ladies" who either go on the attack or walk out when they don't want someone else excercising free speech. Liberals are only tolerant of other liberals and demand tolerance ONLY for themselves.
As far as the Muslim question on Obama. Well sorry people... He was a Muslim in his younger years in Indonisia, he practicd it with his step father. He claims to be Christian now...But who cares.
Bottom line this is not an appropriate location. Its not against the law... But it should be off limits due to the FACT that the men who flew those planes into those buildings killing over 3000 people did it in the name of the very god they want to pray to from this Mosque... Build your mosque... But not there... Oh, and libs... Get over yourselves, please... Your childish. This is all its about... Keep your eye on the ball and stand up for your countrymen for crying out loud!
I HAVE TO TYPE IN CAPS !!! JOY & WOOPIE CERTAINLY DID THE RIGHT THING.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH !!!
I SUPPORT AND COMMEND THEIR ACTIONS FOR HUMANITY.
I ADMIRE THEIR DEDICATION TO WORLD PEACE AND SUPPORT OF OUR PRESIDENT WHO IS DOING A FABULOUS JOB IN SPITE OF THE BAG OF WORMS HE WAS HANDED !!!
I ADMIRE THEIR DEDICATION TO WORLD PEACE
You sound like a one of those empty-headed beauty pageant contestants.
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Having those two yo-yos walk out on you is a compliment!
Oh please, Bill is beyond fair. I don't even know why people watch the show with the likes of Joy Behar. What a joke she is. What was Barbara Walters thinking when she asked Joy and her opinionated self to be on her show. She makes me sick. I am so tired of turning on daytime shows and hearing about what "THEY" think is right politically. Leave politics to the news channels and politicians.
For years this show has tried to talk politics and always falls short. The intention of of these women and their producers in this interview were quite obviously to discredit Bill O'Reilly. I don't agree with him, necessarily, but please – ganging up on one person with five obnoxious, squawking nut bags? Please.
These women take offense to everything uttered by a man (unless it's Obama). Not some things. Everything. If some one dares to argue against a core idea of the president it's all hand on deck to yell at the top of their lungs to drown out any discernible words that might make viewers have an opinion other than the hosts of the view.
oh, the punditry of it all...
@jimmyc1955 – Yes, you demean a whole religion when you call Christians bigots and fools, but No, from the left that is NOT totally unacceptable. I am a bleeding heart, liberal, feminist Christian ... and there are more of us than you would like to believe. Please do NOT believe the far right's assertion that all Christians are conservatives .. we are not all of one mind, and you are brainwashed if you think so.
Extremist Muslims killed on 9/11. Not all Muslims believe as extremist Muslims, just like all Christians did not agree with Terry Jones' plan to burn Qurans in Florida. To not make that extinction is to denegrate the entire religion not because it is grammatically incorrect, but because we are intelligent people who understand the power of language.
Anyone who keeps referring to the planned Islamic Center as a mosque is either extremely ignorant or is just trying to cause trouble.
Oops – I said that incorrectly. I meant to say @jimmyc1955 – Yes, you demean a whole religion when you call Christians bigots and fools, but No, from the left that is NOT totally acceptable. In fact, it is not acceptable at all.
So the point is O'Reilly is wrong for generalizing about a whole group due to a few extremists? Yet those on the left, particularly the media, do it every day with the Tea Party. Most liberal arguments try to demonize anyone making a point they don't agree with rather than sticking to the issues. If you don't believe this, look at the posts.
Total over reaction. They SHOULDNT be building a mosque near ground zero. It's absolutely disrespectful and insensistive.
Joy and Whoopi should have been professional and stated that you can't blame all Muslims because of Extremists. I am concerned though that it seems that Whoopi is a little to sympathetic towards the Muslima and the Mosque. What about her loyalty to her fellow Americans – the ones that were slaughtered and their families left to deal with the slap in the face they are having to put up with. Obama needs to be act like an American instead of everybodies diplomat.
Not that I like O'Reilly or the bulk of anything the idiots on the View talk about but they were right to question him about the Center (Mosque) because it is well within the builders rights to do so. I don't think it's the smartest decision in the world, but at some point people need to understand that the majority of Muslim's are not Terrorists, just like not all Christians are like that church in Florida.
Fact: Muslims did kill us on 9/11.
Fact: Not all Muslims are extremist.
Fact: No other religions were associated with the terrorist attacks of 9/11.
Opinion: Muslims have a right to build the Mosque (that is what it is) but I believe it would be in poor taste and I also believe the extremists are looking at this as a victory for them.
The women on the view, with the exception of Barbara, have been whiners from the very first episode..... so why the hell are we so suprised that they pulled this 5th grade b!@#$%^$t? Joy has proven over and over, that what I believe is final, and the rest of you dont know what you are talking about.... anyway.... grow up girls..... there will always be someone whom disagrees with you, or says something you dont like.. your supposed to be profesionals... act like it for a change....
Pinhead is not appropriate for Bill O'Reilly. I prefer to use a more appropriate term for Billy-boy. Much like his other nut buddies at Fox, Air or Chowder is too loose. My preference is Richard or the shortened version...Dick.
He doesn't like Muslims so he must detest Buddhists, Taoists, Hindus etc...but it was ONLY the extremists who did the killing......so what does he think of all the Gangs, Drug dealers and pimps who kill many more than 3000 Americans every year? They aren't Muslims so I guess they are OK?
Bill O'Reilly is nothing but a pundit, storming off set likely only gave him the reaction he was hoping for, but I commend Whoopi and Joy for taking a stance. Condemning a religion for a few is not what America is based on.
I understand Joy and Woopie walking off, but they knew what O'Reilly is when they invited him on. However, he is incorrect that Muslims attacked us. Muslim extremists killed people in the World Trade Center. That's like saying that Christians kill and main people working in abortion clinics. All Christians do not, but Christian extremists do. And I think that planning for it there is insensitive, but it is a planned Islamic CENTER, not a mosque.
watching the view – 60 minutes of your life you will never get back. Maybe Behar and Goldberg had to walk the thrill out of their legs similar to their buddy matthews when they heard BHO's name spoken
Well, "The View" got O'Reilly on the show knowing he is an ignoramous, so... they got what they booked.
This show is entertainment. If you think it is anything approaching a sane political commentary and exchange of political opinion you are wrong. You don't put someone as extreme as O'Reilly onstage with five women and expect anything other than screaming and walking off and yelling. This show is just another version of these confrontational shouting match type television shows, and is a perfect example of how sane dialogue and exchange of differing opinions in this country has essentially disappeared. We are a rude nation.
I still find it amazing that on a show called 'The View' there are people who can't listen to views opposing their own. Look, facts are facts, yes, the Muslims who killed people on 9/11 were extremists, but they did what they did in the name of Islam. No one argues with they're right to put a mosque or Islamic center or whatever there. What people have a problem with is how utterly insensitive it is. It really is like putting a monument to atomic weapons in Hiroshima or Nagasaki. No one would do that because it is a hurtful and insensitive thing to do. The left is always telling us to be sensitive to those around us. Why doesn't this hold true for religions other than Christianity?
@Ryan
Aman after my own heart truer words were never spoken!
Even though I dislike O'Reilly with a passion, I have to admit this time he hit head on and was correct. To force the American people to accept a Mosque near Ground Zero is like having a memorial to the kamikazi pilots at Pearl Harbor.
I would rather they stood their ground and let the guy have it. Good for them for standing up on their show. Walking off is also a form of protest, so either way, it's good. But sometimes you gotta face these ppl and stick it to them.
The View is so biased. When Obama was on the show they all but kissed his a**. They were rude to McCain and his wife. It is time for the show to go off the air.
I'm sick and tired of The View. I don't want to hear these airhead bimbos who are completely out of touch with reality spout off their left-winged extremist opinions. To those ladies on The View, listen morons, there is a reason Obama is plummeting in the polls and his idiot friends (Pelosi and Reid) are crashing, too. Trying to say otherwise and imply Americans are happy with this administration is true stupidity and ignorance. If anyone forms his or her opinions based on Joy Behar or someone named Whoopi, God help you. Or Allah. Or whichever god you don't have a double standard against.
"The View" = pinhead tv, Bill O'Reilly = pinhead radio. Sounds like a match made in heaven.
EXTREMISTS murder and it cuts across every ideological line. Lord knows the Christian religion has enough of our own. The difference is, when a Chritian commits the crime, our newspapers don't identify that person as a Christian. They delve deeper and name the denomination, or lack thereof, from where the killer got his support. Roeder was a Christian but he murdered Tiller. Jim Jones was a Christian.
O'Reilly is all for going after Anwar al-Awlaki because he encouraged and then praised Hasan, the Fort Hood shooter. Yet, O'Reilly says he should not be held to any accounting for repeatedly referring to 'Tiller, the baby killer' on his program. True, O'Reilly did not praise Roeder. Does that relieve him of ANY culpability? Are you innocent or naive if your hate speech has consequences?
O'Reilly KNEW what he was $aying and doing. That's what he gets paid for.
I remember him when he was Inside Edition. He chortled with glee any time he could catch cops over the line. Do you remember his expose' on state troopers speeding to their coffee breaks?
I doubt O'Reilly truly knows what his own beliefs are. His $peech depends on the cash. Right now, he's getting his check from Faux. He tows the Faux line, as he's paid to do.
I have to disagree with you. When a Christian commits a crime in the name of their religion the media is so fast to point it out they usually say that before anything else. The examples you list are proof of that. On this board, people try to connect McViegh to some sort of religion when they know that he wasn't practicing any religion only hatred for government. Look around the world, really, is there currently any more violent group of people than Muslim extremists? I can't think of any.
I can't believe that no one knows there was ALREADY a mosque in the buiilding, I believe on the 11th floor. So if another goes up it's jsut a continuation, not a new thing. Ferchrissakes, if it bothers you so much, build a church there too!
It is more dangerous to not admit the truth about 9/11: Muslim extremists hijacked airplanes and turned them into flying bombs and flew them into the towers. They did it to glorify "Allah." Contrary to this, the Apostle John said: "He who loves is born of God because God is love."
To those who equate all Islam with hate and death, and Christianity with love and forgiveness... All I have to say is, The Inquisition, The crusades, The IRA, Tim McVeigh, and Abortion clinic bombs. Oh, and the loving people throwing firebombs at gay parades in Europe. So tolerant,.so christian with love and perfection. Glad I am an atheist. I think you people are all nuts.. but I will, as an American, defend your right to be so. You theists are so selective with your facts.
Muslims did blow up the WTC. Whoopi and Joy are bleeding hearts that live in a Pollyanna world of correctness. I applaud Bill O'Reilly for his directness and candor. There are those islamic factions that seek to destroy our way of life, our homes and our nation. "Extremisim in the defense of liberty is no vice!" These types will only understand one thing. It is naive to think otherwise.
I saw The View today. O'Reilly was the pinhead and the ladies were the patriots. Conservatism is merely a paycheck for this guy. He doesn't believe half the stuff he spews. They all brag about Faux News ratings and big $, but fail to acknowledge the truth and embrace hyperbole and sensationalism creating hysteria.
Folks, they're all wrong, including the producers. The producers of the show know exactly what they're getting when they invite someone like Bill O to the show. Bill generally leans right, Whoopi and Joy lean left. The producers know full well when they invite Bill, some topic will come up that's controversial to the left leaning folks. I believe Bill baited Whoopi/Joy by saying what he did. I also believe that Whoopi and Joy were completely unprofessional when they start foul-mouthing everything on TV. This isn't HBO or one of Whoopi's "One Woman Shows". I think though that this perfectly illustrates what's wrong right now in the country. There is no middle of the road any more and people can't discuss controversial things without going completely whacko.
Liberals – if you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen. O'Reilly only stated facts.
I'll believe that Bill O cares and his fellow neo-cons care about the sacredness of the areas surrounding ground zero when I see them protesting the strip cubs
Were they not Muslims? Were the people who were about to burn the Koran in Florida Christians? What about the term was incorrect? You demeaned a whole religion when you call Christians bigots and fools – but from the left that is totally acceptable. Its only when you mention Islam in a less than flattering light you are accused of such heresy. Why when a cartoonist simply makes a suggestion to draw Mohamed is it necessary to put her into a protection program and ruin her life but nobody on the left will even talk about it?? Why is Muslim violence that is perpetrated all over the globe separated from the faith is attempts to defend?? This game of silly semantics for political correct reasons is dangerous and your refusal to acknowledge that those who are killing us are Muslims is pathetic.
i hate the view.. please cancel this show asap
I totally agree. Please cancel the view b/c the show wants to make me puke. Plus, behar is on cnn also makes me ill. Get all those hnens off tv.
The people responsible for the 9/11 attacks were terrorists just as the people who were responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing were terrorist too. Are people so ignorant that they do not believe that Muslims who were not terrorists also died on 9/11? There are many extremists who do things in the name of their chosen religions that do not actually represent the fundamental beliefs of that religion whether they be Christians, Muslims, etc.
The fact is: It is the muslim believers that mutaled our people and our country! and because of that muslim faith, YOU MARK MY WORDS ON OCTOBER 14TH, THEY WILL STRIKE AGAIN AND OUR LEADERS OF THIS COUTRY IS TOO STUPID ENOUGH THE LET IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!! Do you honestly think that an american would be allowed to practice christianity in the western world? Hell no, we would be stoned to death or dragged thru the streets and set on fire. Not in America buddy you can practice any religion and kill us at the same time! Was has this country come to!
Why is it that we never saw one of those Muslim clerics really get riled up after 9/11 and appear in the media angry as hell about what happened.Oh, sure some were out there in front of us in that calm, sedate way that they are so good at presenting, saying that the culprits did not represent true Islam, but I never really saw one of them get fired up. I'm just sayin'....when push comes to shove, what are they REALLY thinking?
Look up a few words using a search engine with an open mind. Don't just read what you already know or what you agree with. Look up TAQIYYA or TAQIYYAH, then look up JIZYA in reguards to DHIMMIS, then look up several definitions of ISLAM. Read several entries to make sure you understand some of what The Nation of Islam is about and what it's purpose is to do. To not be ignorant is to research with an open mind!
They were all men too, should we not have any men's room there either?
did you folks know someone that jumped from one of the towers ?
it is personal to many who happen on to this exclave of meaningless punditry.
Doesn't anyone else see this as a pure publicity stunt for both sides?
It was unprofessional and very close minded of them to walk off the set. They only show tolerance for those who agree with them, and they refuse to hear or even debate any other point of view. Theses women are close minded and petty. I do not watch their show, because the couple of times that I have, I found that I gained nothing from their one sided babbling and screeching. They offer nothing of value and are rude to others that don't agree with them, that is a turn off for level headed people.
O'Reilly is a bigot. That much is certain. But we all knew this anyway. Where they right in walking offstage? No. It's a talk show where you're supposed to air different views on a subject and be able to talk about it, so waht they did was wrong and unprofesional.
That in no way means that what O'Reilly did was any better, but if you chose to live in a country where freedom of speech is a sacred right, then you have to learn to live with idiotic morons like O'Reilly and Beck.
such inappropriate behavior for Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg...there are many talented and capable hosts who could have managed themselves in a professional manner. With all the great possibilities out there looking for jobs, can we find 2 other women who can handle this job asap?
The idea of Muslim free zone around ground zero is as bigoted and ignorant as the KKK march in Wash. DC around 1920's reminding Americans the horrible intentions of the black race.
In my previous posts, I argued that as a Muslim, a church, a synagogue, and a mosque are all the same to me since they are all God's house of worships, but the idea of being told that you cannot build a mosque on private property because it offends a large of segment of society is totally non-starter. We have seen this before.
An important question, then, is why it would be so offensive to a large segment of the society? It is because they are totally misinformed. On one hand, we are so quick to condemn this mosque as being a symbol of Islam, while we put the gas that came from Saudi Arabia in our cars although we know the revenues support nefarious activities. They say, how come there are no churches in Saudi Arabia? It is because the country is owned by bunch of despots that breed hatred and we support them to the hilt even though we know this very well.
How galling that 1.57 billion Muslims should be scapegoated for bunch of despots in the Middle East or the barbaric acts of 9/11. We have seen this type of guilty by association. I simply refuse to feel coy and feel guilty because bunch of misinformed people. I refuse to be told where I can and cannot build a mosque.
When there is a church that can openly and safely operate in places like Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Iran, etc. Then an Islamic center would be appropriate near ground Zero. Until such time it will not be appropriate. Now under the laws of this country I’d say they 100% have the right to build it there even now. Christens are bashed as a whole for any one misdeed by a claimed believer all the time and in the press and by many, that is accepted as ok and proper. I’d not condemn any one faith for the actions of a few. But when those associated with that group/faith not only turn a blind eye to those doing wrong, then that group/faith need not by omission, make it appear ok. Few groups/faiths have large populations that will openly celebrate the death of civilians.
we'll be speaking chinese in 40 years, wake up now america before to late
Josh–keep calling yourself a "man." Maybe someday, someone besides you will believe it.
the fundimental question is did religion force those extremist to preform 9/11, or was it stupidity? We as a country have been down this road before with how we blamed every Asain for the acts of Pearl Harbor and how well did that turn out? In my opinion Blly O'Rely is a right wing extremist in the way he tries to blurr the truth.
O'Reilly is just trying to sell his book. So far so good.
Name one guard at Auschwitz who was not a Christian. Name one other religon that allows congregations to bar people at the door based only on their race. Name one other religion that practices organized pederasty.
You want to blame all Muslims, I get to blame all Christians.
And is anyone else curious why an investigative reporter like O'Reilly could never find a military recruiter?
The Nazi party was officially an atheist party. And if you want another religion that segregates it's people look at Islam. Men and women aren't allowed to worship in the same room.
Whoopi, Behar and liberals in general – no arguing with idiots. In terms of christians, link is bs with the Oklahoma CIty bombings which they love to compare. Muslim attacks occur daily. Sho me the pack so of roaming baptists creating havoc. Although would not be a bad idea when it comes to liberals
Well god freaking FORBID any comment about Muslims not revert back to Obama because he controls the ENTIRE Muslim population right,right?!! There it is you have discovered hsi diabolical plan too bad he doesn't have a beard like Snidely Whiplash to twirl uh-oh America is on to you Barack better tie lady liberty on the train tracks!! Sarcams aside those clucking hens on The View make me sick to my stomach ESPECIALLY Joy[sic] and Whoopi and isn't this the same 'pinhead' who defended a child molester and that creep Mel Gibson. Yeah should be Dummy she's a disgrace and hardly one to act like a good judge of character she can stick her fat ugly head in the fryer.
Don't be fooled for a second, Joy Behar, and these hollywood celebs have no empathy toward Muslims, or any other 'minority'. They play the role of contrarian because of the self-serving satisfaction it provides. They love to hear how wonderful they sound when they 'rage against the machine'. If these people were the humanitarians they claim to be, they'd be volunteering without cameras and spending their lives and money to helping those they claim to care about. Instead they mouth off from their pulpit claiming to know more than everyone else.
I can't believe that Behar and Goldberg could not tame the pinhead on their show, that they had to walk off.
Its strange that people can call for freedom of speech yet they decry someone who has a differing view. Can cry for freedom of religion unless its not their religion. Can call for separation for church and state but want the government to fund church programs or to teach "their" religion in schools.. i consider all of those involved Joy, Whoopi and o'Reilly to be , by the definition, "extremists" which mean they support only their versions of the issue and will not listen politely to dissenting views. Get 2 people together and on some subject you have two polar object views. Its only news because people only want to see the negative side of things on TV, not listen to what is being said, shows need the publicity to get viewers to watch. The View has gone from a decent show to nothing but bashing someone. My Wife stopped watching it for that reasons as we both sickandtired of the people who claim to understand the issues but only say what they want not follow the facts. Actors should act, talk show hosts, talk..give us the facts and not your view..we ARE smart enough to make an intelligent decision.
Seriously – who is it going to get hurt if they build an Islamic Center near ground zero? You nut-jobs are creating more hurt by vehemently protesting it. Let it be built, move on and everything will be fine – trust me.
I was MEN who attacked us on 9/11, it was a MAN who attacked the federal building in Oklahoma City, maybe it's men who are the problem? Is Bill O going to turn himself in?
Point well taken. LOL
Chuck–you're a riot. Time you started "speaking up"? You never shut up!!! Republicans like you are nothing but a bunch of ill-informed bullies who think no one has the right to govern except far right-wing bigoted nut jobs.
I yell at my television all the time when O'Reilly deliberately goads people with outrageous statements. He never hears me!!! I know these folks, all of them, take themselves very seriously, but really, walking off the set was silly. Advantage O'Reilly. Wait till I get him on my TV set tonight though – he'll hear it from me all right!
Well, I think it is pertinent to point out the 9/11 perpetraitors were all Muslims. Until Muslims the world over start pointing out the extremits aren't representative and don't act in accordance with Muslim teachings, what Bill O'Reilly said is correct.
And truthly he could have said, "Saudi Arabians killed us." And he would have been just as accurate.
Perhaps he couldn't because they own his show.?
As long as someone says "(fill in the religious / political group / gender here) did this" the world is never going to move forward.
You'll have to pardon me, as I rarely agree with Bill O'Reilly, but was he truly inaccurate in that statement? Were not all of the 19 participants Muslims who apparently believed that their religion gave them license and/or obligation to kill non-Muslims (Infidels)? This doesn't mean that all Muslims are the enemy or are evil, but strictly speaking I have a hard time finding fault with him in this case. It also is interesting how thin the skins of some TV hosts are. If they are not controlling the tone and tempo then they "walk off". Say what you want about Jon Stewart, but that guy will slug it out with anyone without losing his cool or sense of humor.
The people who attacked us on 9/11 were, in fact, MUSLIMS. Bill was right. I will use the politically correct term "muslim extremists", when the media, and liberals start using the term "christian extremists" whenever they are talking about fringe Christian groups. Instead they insist everyone use Muslim Extremist to describe any Muslim who is not peaceful, but still refer to any wacko way out there Christian group as just "Christian". DOUBLE STANDARD! By the way, anyone who believes followers of Islam are peaceful needs to do a little research on current armed conflicts going on around the world...of about 22 armed conflicts all but two involve muslims on at least one side.......no need to say more. Pull your heads out of your asses people.
The whole fox news is obviously disrespectful and confrontational empire of no reasonable character, so why walk out they knew his profile way before he came on the show. take the day off but dont walk off the show it becomes problematic in the future.
Bill O'Reilly is just an old man confused about the state of his country. He just has his show to please the FOXNEWS corporation with obtuse right-sided opinions. Does he realize that Muslims (aside form the terrorists) were killed in 9-11. they were Muslim terrorists? NOT ALL MUSLIMS ARE TERRORISTS, MR. O'REILLY! I really don't care if they build a mosque at the proposed site. Did you know the building where they want to build the mosque already serves, basically, as mosque. What's the deal? Everyone is just afraid of Muslims after 9-11. They are a foreign people, and it is easy to have hostile feelings towards them. But, do not use guilt by association to control you. That is crap. If you interacted with Muslims, then you might change your opinions of a population that is merely judged by the actions of a few dozen.
How does building a mosque effect anyone else except who is worshiping there? It doesn't make much sense as American's to say that the developer cannot build it there. Saying that you can't build a mosque there is like saying you can't build a christian church near the Oklahoma city bombing site because a Christian blew it up. Come on.
jimmyc1955
It is "Christians" like you who have turned so many off on the idea of organized religion. Nothing you support has anything to do with Jesus' teachings–Shameful.
What he should have said is that 17 men from Saudia Arabia killed thousands of Americans. Our supposed ally and the other attackers were from other allied countries like Pakistan. Doesn't matter if the Pres is a Dem or Rep, we need to get off oil and send these people back to the desert so they wander for thew next 2k years. But instead, we need to get wealthy from their oil and ruin our enviroment – smart choices!
Go back about 1000 years ago.....I assure you the Christians were the terrorists of Muslins in search of a goblet. No religion is bad per say...its the people that try to force it on others that are sometimes extreme.
Typical liberal idiots, when confronted with the facts they run away like babies
You can't even see the site from Ground Zero, there were Muslim Prayer Rooms in the WTC, and some narrow-minded boy will now have to wait in the car while the rest of us get our parfaits on.
I hope they never build a church two blocks and out of sight from the Oklahoma City bombing site. He was a Christian and I would just feel uncomfortable seeing other people practicing their faith, even if they weren't complete psychos.
Who Cares? Bill got on News, again!...Good job ladies
People get angry about the wrong things. They should take up for Christianity like they take up for everything else. If only we believed as strongly in God as the nonsense that keeps people in an uproar. I wonder what kind of nation we would be then.
O'Reilly seems to be conveniently ignoring (or ignorant of) the fact that Imam Rauf of the Cordoba Initiative has been formally assisting the FBI and the US Government with anti-Islamist-extremism efforts since the Bush Administration. Rauf was even personally selected by President George W. Bush to undertake diplomatic activities in the Middle East on behalf of the United States in order to promote the fact that religious pluralism & tolerance are integral to the ideological basis of America and in order to rectify local preconceptions that the US is "anti-Muslim".
And moderate Sufi Muslims such as those involved in the Cordoba Initiative (who have openly declared themselves to be enemies of Al Qaeda) are actually murderously hated by Salafi-Jihadists like Al Qaeda, because they regard such Sufis as being “excessively liberal” and “excessively benevolent” towards non-Muslims. The ideological predecessors of Al Qaeda have been persecuting and killing such Sufis for centuries. O’Reilly should also be aware of the fact that not only are there numerous Christians and Jews as well as Muslims on the board of the Park51/Cordoba House project, but that the project itself has been heavily assisted from an early stage by Jews involved in a New York-based Jewish cultural centre, which is essentially the template for Park51.
Someone should also have questioned O'Reilly about the fact that the very person Fox News had been repeatedly accusing of being a sinister figure with alleged ties to radical Islamist extremism and involved in funding Park51/Cordoba House actually turned out to be the second-largest shareholder in Fox News' parent company News Corp, an individual very close to Rupert Murdoch himself and someone whom Murdoch is still heavily involved in working with in order to facilitate his media conglomerate's continuing business expansion in the Middle East.
If they didn't want to "talk" on a talk show, then they shouldn't have ever asked him on there. Whoopi is a drama queen who's been left wing all her life and loves the spotlight. Truth is, she wasn't in the spotlight and had to do something to show her _ss off. She's no more a professional than anyone off the street. They all should have stayed and suffered through it...if you want to get angry with anyone, get angry at the person that brought him there.
O'Reilly was just a time bomb waiting to go off. He said what he meant, and he meant what he said. Problem is, he stereotyped all Muslims in doing so. Which would be the same to say that all 'White, Blacks' Indians,' etc are responsible for whatever extremists may do from each group. Doesn't make sense. And, oh yeah ... I don't agree with the Mosque being built to close to the old ground zero. But, I wouldn't use either to try to make Obama the fall guy, which is what O'Reilley was doing. O'Reilly and Lou Dobbs must be distant cousins.
O'Reilly is the perfict example of talking to dumb americans
And a Christian killed "us" in the bombing of the Oklahoma City Federal Building... guess we better not let them build any churches, a YMCA or anything else near that site or where the WTC once stood as that act of terrorism is still an open sore and building any sort of christian building nearby would be like pouring salt on the wound and disrespectful to those that lost their lives.
O'Reilly's reasoning does not make since! Should we ban all churches and christian community centers in Oklahoma City, because the Oklahoma City bombing was done by extremists who happened to call themselves "Christians"?!
Wow, talk about thin skinned libs. How anyone can watch those yentas blab about their meaningless political views is beyond me.
Christians killed Americans in the Revolutionary War. Christians killed Americans in the Civil War. Christians killed Americans in the Mexican American War(s). Christians killed Americans in World War 1. Christians killed Americans in World War 2. Christians in America have killed doctors and their own followers over differences in belief since then. Christian Americans kill other Christian Americans every day in this country (except that when an American kills an American in America, their religous affiliation doesnt usually make the evening news).
Christians kill more Americans in America each year than the Taliban kills Americans in Afghanistan, and that is a war.
So if I say its Christians that kill Americans, am I labelling a whole religion inappropriately, am I being "truthful" a la Bill O'Reilly, or am I just a disingenous charlatan hoping to manipulate those that dont know any better for my own benefit – like selling a book ?
Left wing Right wing the veiw is hosted by a bunch of WING NUTS!! there closed minded washed up hags!!!
I am not sure why ABC has to invite such a person to their show. People like him should live and breath within FOX channel's four walls.
They can sure hand it out but can't take it. Their views can be heard, but not yours. What kind of "hosts" are you. I realize "lady" isn't in their vocabulary though all those other words seem to be – try acting like one sometime.
He apologized only because two hosts walked off the show and he realized how his statements would look. people need to stop talking about something they don't know about. The islamic center is a)not a mosque b)isn't on ground zero. has anyone actually looked at a map? it is several blocks away and there is already an actual mosque closer as well as adult shops. Most New Yorkers actually support the Islamic Center because by allowing it it shows the whole reason the extremists hate us. Our ability as Americans to accept others and other peoples choices is what we stand for. If you call yourself an American you should act on it.
Really, OUR intolerance is why extremists hate us? What kind of tolerance of other religions and practices do you see in Muslim countries?
Did muslims attack us on 9/11? Yes, they certainly did. Is Bill O'Reilly an uneducated bigot? Without doubt. If you watch Fox news, and Bill O'Reilly, you are beyond help. If a mosque is not appropriate near ground zero, than a mosque would not be appropriate anywhere in the United States. If we were to ban any religion that did not have penalties for non-believers, we would have no religion. If most religions took their holy books literally, there would be very few of us left alive.
Hey Brenda Whoopie has enough money she doesn't have to feed your chickens; probably has enough money to buy you ten times over!
Whoopi and Joy showed their true colors. Neither one has a clue of what is going on politically, and they refused to believe some of the facts that O'Reilly stated, like 70 percent of Americans being opposed to the mosque at Ground Zero. Who hasn't seen those polls? And he is correct, it was Muslim terrorists that plotted and carried out 9/11. O'Reilly doesn't have a beef with the rest of the Muslim world - just the ones that killed thousands of Americans on 9/11. It's funny that Whoopi and Joy won't even listen to someone with an opposing view from theirs. Isn't that show called The View?
While Mr. O'Reilley could have put it another way, Whoopi and Joy overreacted–even politicians know not to go crazy and walk off. While I don't exactly agree with his point, I understand; it would be like putting a nonviolent white supremacy center 2 blocks from the Lorraine Motel. Do you think our liberal minded Ms. Goldberg and Behar would oppose that?
am not an o'reilly fan, but talk about these women being childish. it's one think to say "most terrorists are muslims," but people often twist that to mean "most muslims are terrorists"...which they are not! there are over 1 billion muslims and maybe like 2,000 terrorists (give or take a few)...which is not even 1% of the muslim population. stop scapegoating an entire religion! education and tolerance...try it.
he is a pinhead fascist who works for the fascist news network.
a wannabe senator joe mccarthy
I guess we should all just listen to the bozos on the Maoist Socialist National Bolshevik Channel (aka MSNBC)
Wow, if you disagree with someone you do not walk off a national tv set in the middle of a show. Joy and Whoppie are two Pinheads.
Get a grip someone comes to your house/your show and you walk out tsk, tsk
BULLY
stand up for yourself people... govern your own actions and mind your tongue/either bless or curse someone with your words
Thw View is a crap show. Always biased. Shouldn't be on TV
Let's say what they weren't ! ! They weren't Christians, they weren't Buddhists, they weren't Hindus, they weren't Jewish. What were they? Muslims. Case closed.
Who cares what these Yentas think? They are nothing but big bags o' menopause anyway. Besides, O'Reilly was correct. 9/11 wasn't cause by Christians, Jews, Buddhists, or Hindu's. It was cause my Muslims. Plain and simple. For these idiotic women to get upset over plain facts shows just how screwy liberal thinking is.
We should as nation rise up seek the truth and demand the answers that have been hidden. 9/11 was an inside job!!! explain bldg 7 and show us film footage of a commercial air liner crashing into the pentagon. Having said that building an islam center @ ground zero is a bad idea because there is a lot of bad blood out there still. Some uninformed nut job might take upon himself to try to make the muslims pay for 9/11. But that is what the NWO wants chaos so they can declare martial law . Wake up America we dont have much time. If you wake
I don't remember hearing Joy throw a fit when Rosie O'Donnell made disparaging lies about Christians. It is funny to watch liberals scream bloody murder when somebody talks about Islam when they have been attacking Christianity for years. Seems a bit hollow.
What I find appalling is the lack of an outcry from the general Muslim population against the extremists. Why are they not assisting to weed out those who would do harm to America? If they do not want to be grouped with the terrorists, they should take a more pro-active position against them.
Well said!
Amen
great point!
I agree. How come we forget about the thousands of people in the Middle East, celebrating in the streets, when the towers fell? And, while liberal Americans come to the defense of Muslims – and every other group, where are the Muslims in their own countries coming to the defense of those attacked and accosted because they are not Muslim? The leadership of the Muslim countries do not preach the same kind tolerance – yet those who follow it expect tolerance from others, when they are in non-Muslim lands.
And, as for the location, did they think it would just go over smoothly? If they wanted to promote peaceful co-existence and tolerance, was there another option? It sounds to me more like the march on Skokie (a group of Nazis that applied for a parade permit in a town populated with many Holocaust survivors.)
The View? Who cares.
I am still waiting for the concerted outcry of Islamic groups against what these Mulims did on Sept. 11, the USS Cole and anti-American sentiments in general. Where are they? I have been waiting to see them take a stand against these issues but they have been MIA. They will preach a whole lot about peace and tolerance so long as it benefits them as Muslims but where has their voice been on behalf of the U.S.? As far as I am concerned, and until proven otherwise, all Muslims and mosques residing in the U.S. are nothing more than sleeper cells.
Why does anyone care about Joy Blowhard and Whoopi Goldberg anyway? Are they even relevant? Not that O'Reilly or the like are any better but they are all jerks!
"A bit later he brought up the proposed Islamic center in New York, which is set to be built close to ground zero. O’Reilly referred to it as a mosque and said..."
Put lipstick on a pig and it is still a pig. (pardon the pun)
The View knew they'd be outgunned intellectually. Even so, they put their collective brains together and came up with the brilliant idea of walking out when Bill said something they didn't like (didn't understand).
The demographics of the viewing audience would enjoy such display of emotion. "Let's do it!" If the audience's IQ was 2 points lower, they'd be plants.
He said "Muslims Killed us." They understood it AOK. Apology? Crock. He knew what he was saying, what effect it would have, he calculated it very carefully. Google "political dog whistle" and you'll learn how the Republicans use key phrases to signal the public in a code... much like a terrorist might trigger a sleeper cell. He was covertly winking at his supporters, condoning their irrational hatred and baiting them to anger.
Perhaps we must all be a little more vigilant, and less ignorant of and willing to overlook hateful tactics.
Props to Bill O'Reilly. The view is a ridiculous show with its own agenda.
Yes, ridiculous. So Bill, in his infinite wisdom, goes on the show. To promote a book. If it's so ridiculous, why not just go somewhere else to promote bigoted myopia?
Islamic center, Mosque, whatever. Whoever owns the land can determine what is built. Knowing the history of ground zero and also knowing that you can add extremist to the word redneck might make me think twice. Like O'reilly said "70% of americans don't agree with the idea", you have to think that a percentage of that 70% are extremist enough to do something stupid. Remember Timothy Mcveigh? Why build a target for some idiot to make himself famous when you can build the center in a more neutral place?
Because then the Redneck Terrorists win. Before the battle has started.
And we all lose another bit of our freedom, not to bombs or guns or even threats... but to FEAR.
He says things (right or wrong) to get a reaction. He got a reaction, so he wins.
You know that the Muslim extremists are very pleased that there is such a strong disagreement in the US about the Ground Zero Mosque. And you know what, they are winning on that front as well. They have created a divide in this country that could be more dangerous than any plane hitting a building.
I think most people support the idea that "As an American, while I don't agree with what you are saying, I support the right you have to say it." And that is one of the founding principles of the United States. Nothing would make those Muslim extremists more upset than to allow someone the freedom to do something like building a Mosque at Ground Zero, for as distasteful as we might find this idea, this country places this kind of freedom above everything else.
I can't wait to see you liberals wearing burqas.
Well, that should boost the show's ratings – not that I would ever imply that that was the reason they did it. Heavens to Betsy no. Strange though that Obama refused to comment on the wisom of building the Mosque – but has no such qualms about commenting on the wisdom of buring the Koran – and I'm shure Whoppi would agree with me on that – right???
Why narrow down the question to whether or not his comment was innappropiate???? He IS ALWAYS a pinhead!!!
Although I agree that people shouldn't walk out on each other in a conversation like this it's unfortunate that people are dishonest like this saying Muslims killed us as opposed to extremist muslims killed us. Worse, OReilly is a bit more reasonable than some of the others like Beck and Hannity. Also people have to be fair here: unreasonableness is not the exclusive province of being left or right although it does seem that more than ever the right is becoming more extreme. When people argue against science, believe god is on their religion's side, hate gays they become more and more like the extremist Taliban.
When people who are supposed "christians" do horrible things they are behaving directly AGAINST what their Bible teaches. When muslims commit horrific acts, they are behaving ACCORDING to their teachings: "Strike off their heads. Strike off their finger-tips!...because they defied God and his Apostle" (Koran 8:12-13)
"Believers! Retaliation is decreed for you in bloodshed" (Koran 2:178)
"Seize them and put them to death wherever you find them" (Koran 4:89)
"Believers, make war on the infidels who dwell around you" (Koran 9:123)
"When you meet the unbelievers in the battlefield strike off their heads" (Koran 47:4)
"annihilate the infidels" (Koran 3:141)
Exactly. Islam is nothing but a Mohammed manifesto to kill Jews and Christians. He was one lousy rotten SOB. A psychopth that lured gullible fools into believing his crap. Islam is a cancer, and it will lead to the next world war.
Hmmm....Will Fox News FIRE O'Reilly as they did with Rick Sanchez for voicing his OPINION on a national stage?
The Views days are numbered. They are rude to guests who disagree with them and frankly I quit watching their dribble years ago.
Those two women are retarded. They run a talk show, yet when they hear something they do not like, they walk off. Idiots.
FIRE WHOOPI! She is no better than Rosie was.
Okaaaaay, it was not Muslims who attacked us, it was BAD Muslims. But, Good Muslims, Bad Muslims...they have the same last name – Muslims. So, O'Reily was correct and the View people were wrong. Furthermore, building a giant mosque so close to ground zero is not supported by over 70% of Americans, so again, the View hosts are in a minority and gosh golly darnit, O'Reily was correct. Those who insist on making a distinction between the good and the bad Muslims better get your heads out of the sand – Islamic leaders have an agenda, and it is not good, it is not tolerant, and it is not peaceful.
Humans attacked you in 911. A specific large armed political organization with thousands of members attacked you; it's not abstract; it has a leadership and a name: Al Qada. So please stop miring the rest of us in the dirt by calling them Muslims. Humans would be a set of 6 billion, Muslim 1.5 billion, Al Qada narrows it down. If you keep saying Muslim, then we have a right to think you are trying to drag the rest of us Muslims in because you have an agenda (your domestic politics perhaps? your own religious extremism? to cover up and justify killing us when needed for oil?)
Why are some people afraid of the truth.O'reilly is correct. The muslim extremists are working to implode America from the inside out as had always been since 9/11. Putting the mosque near GROUND ZERO is another step towards that goal. Too much liberalism cant be good for this country in this day and time.
Actually Russ, the more defiant action for the US would be to allow a mosque at Ground Zero. I think that allowing something as inappropriate as that Mosque to be built will demonstrate that no matter what happens, America still believes in and support the basic freedoms which Muslim extremists find so distasteful.
Idiots or not, these talking heads, pinheads and fatbodies don't have jobs without ratings to attract paying advertisers. Don't get too wound up by pre-planned drama engineered to fuel your fires.
Not all Muslims are terrorists but all terrorists are Muslims
O'Reilly is too wealthy to see anything with compassion. He is a Republican through and through and he proves it each night on that FIX News cable station. O'Reilly cannot possibly believe that an entire religion is the blame for 9/11. I hope one day that all reputable commercials pull their ads off of FIX News until they learned how to be FAIR N BALANCED. Between O'Reilly, Hannity, Beck. Wallace and Greta and et al on that cable station, viewers come away with lies and unfortunately they make unwise decisions based on FIX News lies in reporting. Each one of the so called TV Analyst (they are truly not jounalist) along with O'Reilly, needs a lesson in news reporting and how their reporting affects the viewers that continue to watch. The FIX News cable station should be held accountable, especially Beck who was responsible for a man that wanted to go on a shooting spree. FIX News needs to understand that people matter and should be treated in a way that allows them to be informed in a way that their decisions are one that they can live with. I am so glad that Beck as NOT regain any reputable advertisers and I hope reputable advertisers will stop advertising with O'Reilly, Hannity, Wallace and Greta. This will force these people to be more compassion when they are on the air and stop lying without a conscious.
A L....I have never seen any compassion from Islamic extremists who are supported with money, lodging, planing, and logistics from many other Muslims, all of whom are vying for a place in paradise.
It was not Muslims who attacked us, it was BAD Muslims. But, Good Muslims, Bad Muslims...they have the same last name – Muslims.
So, O'Reily was correct and the View people were wrong.
Furthermore, building a giant mosque so close to ground zero is not supported by over 70% of Americans, so again, the View hosts are in a minority and gosh golly darnit, O'Reily was correct.
Those who insist on making a distinction between the good and the bad Muslims better get your heads out of the sand – Islamic leaders have an agenda, and it is not good, it is not tolerant, and it is not peaceful.
Just out of curiosity, do you make a distinction between Democrats and Republicans, or are all Republicans bad and all Democrats good? Point is, if you are a Democrat, regardless of your personal feelings, you are lumped in with all the other Democrats, regardless of whether or not you are a moderate or extremeist.
It will be a good day when this guy dies. Republitards or Dumbocrates..... blah blah blah...no one I know believes a word of the war propaganda any longer. End the drug – terror war. Billo, hurry up and die.
I don't agree with Bill that Muslims killed us. Terrorists did and they happened to be Muslim. You can't condemn the whole religion. BUT, POOR POOR POOR on Whoopi and Joy for walking off set. I hope someone walks off of Joy's set if they disagree with a comment she makes. HOW IMMATURE AND UNPROFESSIONAL!!! THEY are the Pinheads, not Bill! (And I don't like him!)
Yes, Muslims did perpetrate 9/11. Does that mean every single Muslim is responsible? No. But those who are were all Muslim
Yes Muslim terrorists made 9/11 happen. That dosen't mean all Muslims are terrorists. Just because you are of Islamic decent that does not make you a terrorist. A terrorist can be dark skinned or white. The Muslim religion is not violent. Yes there are evil people in the world who read the Koran the wrong way and do evil things. The same can be said with the Holy Bible. Read it in the wrong context and you can take it in the wrong way. People are forgetting the Crusades happend. Didn't belive in God, you got your head cut off and your village slaughtered. Racial profiling has gotten to far out of hand and the way the world is going its only going to get worse. My personal opinion on Bill O'Reilly is that he has a very arragount man. If he is so proud a patriot of this nation he should be sitting in Iraq in the frontlines and not just be a bag of hot air sat behind a comfortable desk. Free speach is a beautiful and great thing but hypocricy that comes with it is amusing.
Bob....forget the events of 1000 years ago and fast forward a bit.
Muslims committed a brutal attack against the U.S. in 2001. Period. If you think those 19 fools in the planes operated alone you yourself are a bigger fool. They required a huge amount of money, planning, transportation, safe haven, and training. That means a LOT of other Muslims were involved. Muslims, Bob, not Christians, not Jews, not Hindus, not Wiccans – Muslims.
Furthermore, right after the attacks and many times since, Muslim leaders have said we brought the attacks upon ourselves, Bob, so they have made excuses for the murderers. Arab princes, imams, and business men have all made that statement, Bob, including the idiot ramrodding the giant mosque in NY, which will be seen by many Muslims as a shrine to those murdering Muslims I mentioned a while ago.
But here is the thing about bringing up the Crusades: Horrible as they were, they were using bows, arrows, swords, catapults – in other words, they did not have a single fool wearing a backpack walking into a market and blowing himself up and killing indescriminately several hundred at a time. Or worse, flying a jet full of people into a skyscrapper and killing thousands at a time. Or even worse, having a nuclear device capable of killing tens of thousands at a time.
Muslims represent a scary scenario, Bob – a 4th century mindset with 21st century weapons. And our network of spies, military, etc., are going crazy trying to keep us all safe. Are you willing to gamble your children, Bob, or your parents, or grand children's lives in the name of political correctness?
Bill was right to say what he said.
Joy and Whoopi are drama queens. How narrow minded can one be? Really? You do NOT have to agree with Bill O'Reilly but as an American, he has a right to his opinion, which by the way, many other people happen to agree with.
Christians killed us in Oklahoma City on 4/15/95 so no churches should be built near ground zero in Oklahoma. Right? Sounds only fair.
The View? Don't have one unless they agree with it!
Why are some people afraid of the truth.O'reilly is correct. The muslim extremists are working to implode America from the inside out as had always been since 9/11. Putting the mosque near GROUND ZERO is another step towards that goal. TO
I can't watch any of them because I could care less about what Joy Behar and Whoopi Goldberg think. They should stick to comedy...I am tired of "views" being pushed in my face by these liberal celebrities who get upset with people that have differing opinions. Bill O'Reilly is a hothead, who obviously wants to sell books, but I would be more inclined to side with him then them, and no, I don't think muslims are bad, but O'Reilly knew the reaction he was going to get and they played right into it.
Americans (Christians) kill more Americans every year than all terrorists have combined. Take a look at our prisons. Let's fix our own problems first, and then we can worry about these little terrorist gnats later.
Christians are pro life, so they save lives.
If the Muslims building the Mosque are so tolerant and wanting to build good faith... Why have they not realized that this is offending a lot of people and that simply by picking another site further away they would be showing tolerance and good faith.
If a neighbor was going to build a shed on his property that you opposed, wouldn't the neighbor usually try and work with you to try and accommodate himself and you so that he doesn't turn you into an enemy?
Interestingly, what you're advocating is exactly the type of liberal political correctness that conservatives so roundly condemn–that someone should change their behavior if it hurts someone else's feelings even if there is no rational reason that the the person is connected to past hurtful actions.
Its funny how these ladies over the past 5-6 years sit there and rip President Bush on EVERYTHING but when it comes time to hear other opinions they just walk off. If you dish it out, you have to take it. What a bunch of clucking hens.
Hey ... the people who flew the planes into the twin towers and the pentagon WERE Muslim ... extremist or whatever ... they were Muslim. You gotta get past the PC America. Not all Germans were Nazis ... but all Nazis WERE German. Get it?
Those nasty women have showed themselves once again. I quit watching the view and lost all respect for BaBaWaWa and Whoopi Goldberg years ago.
RHIXS!! THE FACT THAT YOU ARE COMMENTING ON WHAT IS GOING ON IN VIEW MEANS YOU ARE HARD WIRED DEEP IN YOUR SUBCONSCIOUS ABOUT "VIEW" LOL!!
If we, Muslims, over a billion of us, were at war with the United States, don't you think you would know it without slightest doubt? You get to have massive armies roam around in our lands and we don't get to build a mosque where 60 Muslims among 3000 others were murdered by 19 fanatics apostate criminals? You get to bomb and kills us by the thousands cowardly from the air by your not so "smart" bombs and we attacked you?? you give Israel cluster bombs to spread in millions in our villages to murder and terrorize our unsuspecting kids and then call us terrorists? You are at war with us, long before 911 terrorists attacked you, you came with your armies into our lands and killed our wives and kids, established bases to control the oil flow; you attacked us first. We do not support the actions of 911 terrorists; collective punishment is not allowed under Sharia laws; no weakness, no grievance, no anger justifies such flagrant violation of Sharia law but please stop pretending you were peace loving good people and suddenly Muslims attacked you. 911 criminals were not elected by us, we did not give them approval to act in our name; but every Israeli cluster bomb bears the name of your nation, approved by your elected and representative government. The women and kids you killed in Iraq and you kill in Afghanistan and in Palestine are killed in your name. We have extremists sure, but yours govern your republic and murder us in your name. That is the truth.
Ali careful before the trolls, AKA, conservative republicans come after you, they are crazy like that. And Ali you can not attempt to commuincate your feeling or an insight anymore. We as a nation lose our ability to think straight during elections and become so divided that we stop listening to the"other side". And ALi, here is the thing, you think we are in Saudi Arabia without the approval of the"King"..And no Ali, the actions by some people in palenstine are the reason your women and children die. Was it no Hamas who used to attack resturants with car bombs when the jewish people were out? It was Hamas who used suicide attacks killing women and children in Jewish state. So you be right that is our bombs that create death but its the action of Hamas actions that is the culprit and the real reason why people still are dying. And we have never stayed in any country that we have not been invited to stay and if it wasn't for US, Saudi Arabia and may other nations will be under the control of the the butcher of Iraq before we took him out. So Ali, we have not been at war with the Arab nations but the actions by those on 9-11 gave us no choice but to protect this nation and its people. We are not perfect but atleast we defend our womens right, we defend freedom all over the world with our blood so people can live free.
It is crystal clear where your allegiance lies. So why are you here? You are more than welcome to go back to your own Muslim based country.
Hey, I would love to pull all of our troops out and let the ignorant kill one another, I am all for that. If you want to live in the 7th century, go back over there and relish in it. You do a good job of killing each other and I am all for that, it save us the trouble.
Ema, not everyone capable of writing about you in your language and following your culture is "here"; you might find it hard to believe but Muslims study you and try to understand you just they way your scholars study us.
Steve, as you Americans say "whatever"; my aim is not to exchange insults but to state the obvious.
Do you deny then the excerpts from the Qu'ran as posted by conservative in CA? If you are Muslim, as you say, and the Qu'ran is the holy book of your religion then it could only mean that you follow the tenets of same. Right? No insult here, just trying to verify a point. Moreover, your prior statements speak for themselves as to how you feel about the West. True? You are either a friend of Israel and the West or you are not and you are either a Muslim or you are not. Believe it or not I truly appreciate culture. I once admired Islam for all of its contributions to the arts, science and culture as a whole. And yes, I knew that we had our diferences as cultures but never in a milion years did I think Islam would take it to the level they did on 9/11. That changed my view of islam for me and many others around the world. The damage, unfortunately, has been done. But I guess the Iran hostage crisis should have been a warning sign a long time ago. There is no hate here, at least not with me, just more awareness. Cheers.
Ema,
Our texts have been interpreted by Muslims in a spectrum that ranges from pacifist mysticism to expansionist militarism (like your scripture.)
I am certain however, universally, you simply cannot murder people at random in any school of thought in Islam. The people who organized the 911 attacks (not the misguided young men some of whom acted out of sheer anger, one was in a strip bar a few nights before drinking) but ideology behind them, the "Salafis" also murder Muslims and hate nearly all the rest of us who do not share their rigid and completely unhistorical views. They speak in utter disrespect against the followers of Christ (peace be upon him). We reject this.
As to do wrong doings by Muslims, yes we have our share. It is meaningless to say we hate the "West". We most certainly hate your occupation armies, your support for Israel's annexation policies but we certainly do not hate the Jews. The bombastic violent Salafis get coverage but most of Muslim scholars do not share this view. Remember we gave the Jewish people protection when Europeans were killing them, many times in history.
At any rate, it angers me when people like this man (I don't know much about him) imply that I am a mindless criminal impulsively ignorant and inherently violent because I am a Muslim; the truth is that I am very careful about use of force. I did not attack you in 911; over a billion people here we are talking about; we were never asked if it were OK to massacre New Yorkers at random in retribution for the crimes of your successive governments against Muslims. I am astonished on how you see things so righteously from your point of view, magnify our wrong doings and but explain away the rivers of destruction and blood caused by the greed and violence of governments of Israel and the United States.
Wes,
one set of crimes does not justify another; that is Al Qada's "logic", remember.
Separately and concurrently, Hamas is responsible and accountable for their suicide vests in Israel and Israel for the millions of clusters bombs in Lebanon, for their policy of collective punishment for their destruction of houses and trees and gardens as retribution, forced deportation, for their siege of Gaza (putting Palestinians on a "diet" by counting and restricting calories, note books, wood for houses etc.) for murdering my Turkish countrymen on high seas like criminal pirates that they are and beating and insulting women and men while in detention, for their slow ethnic cleansing of East Jerusalem, for their illegal (even by your Western law and standards) settlements.... We are not misunderstanding what your dollars and hardware are doing to the lives of innocent fellow Muslims in occupied Palestine, we see the glaring reality. I am sick of the Israelis, we Turks tried for decades to be their friends and tried to smoothly work them in our region but our patience has run out. I assure you I perfectly comprehend the situation far more than you me credit for. We tried to get Hamas off terrorism, we were once your allies (certainly not anymore) but have come to the conclusion that you will support Israel no matter what they do. You support Israel and Israel is engaged in state terrorism. Connect the dots on your own as to what that means to us.
How many Muslim women and children have been murdered by other Muslims because of some difference in their beliefs? Why can't those born in the Muslim faith choose whether they want to follow it or not without persecution?
Christians have killed each other for differences of religion too. Christians political wars have killed something in the order of 100 million in the past century!! So please don't lecture us on violence. More recently the West has gained political stability and we have lost it; that does not mean our religion is somehow worse than yours. Religious wars often have to do with underlying politics not religion; if you are talking about recent killings; the culprits are from the same branch as those who caused 911; they kill just about anyone they don't like. I do not consider them Muslim; they have left the faith; you have invented a good term for them, not Muslim simply terrorist.
O'Reilly wanted media coverage and attentions looks like he got it.
Typically left wing. They can't hold a conversation without getting emotional. The facts are the facts. Muslim's were behind 911. Does that mean that all Muslim's are bad? No. Obama showed exactly what type of person he was when he said the developers had the right to build. Like Bush or not he stands for what true Americans want and think. We are losing our country little by little and if people do not start realizing it the America we know will be gone. The majority of the country needs to realize that they are not owed anything except death and taxes. Start be responsible and stop with the "it's not my fault". Guess what, it probably is. If you can't afford now, don't buy it. Personal responsibility is what is missing today in this country!!!!
I can't stand o'reilly he is a loser and a bum and needs to be curse out. All he do takl smack and thinks the world revolves around him. Mr O'reilly you are the biggest loser.
Ann you don't seem to have an opinion on the subject. Only words of intolerance. Bill O'reilly was right. We need to start telling more truths. If the rest of the Muslims around the world really want to put a stop to this nonsense. They must stand up publicly and denounce it, instead of hiding in the shadows. Very few of them even bother to speak up.
The location within the Pentagon where the other ground zero is now a chapel. It is used by all religious denominations including Muslims. If the military does not have an issue on their sacred ground what is the issue with the mosque "near" ground zero?
rediculous someone cant speak their own opinion without someone being offended. people need to grow up and understand everyone has their own take on everything, not everyone will agree. but i agree with O'Reilly, why build a "Islam Center" by the place we were attacked? just seems insane to me.
O'Reilly, like everyone on Fox News exists solely to make people irate and garner each of them more attention from the media. I would say that he should go back to his day job of hosting entertainment gossip shows but he sucked at doing that too.
Bill O'Reilly, admittedly bombastic at times, speaks for a lot more people than you do. Muslims DID kill us, sport. And they've killed hundreds of thousands/millions of people over the centuries. They make non-Muslims look like Ghandi. This is one blood-thirsty cult masquerading as a religion.
They are all "pinheads" – everyone of them. The hosts of the show – him – and all of the staff for putting on a show like that!!! And we watch and listen – SHAME ON US!!!
Well...he's right...the Muslim's did kill us. I despise Bill O'Reilly, but on this instance I have to agree and I'm very liberal, but... Islam is an "intolerant religion". They can never be wrong on any subject, nor do they allow room for another point of view. Why should the free world help them spread contempt for non-believers in their ridiculous religious doctrine that treats women as property. I say "nuke 'em all" before it's too late. Since we can't or won't do that, then stop the Mosque from spreading their hatred. Islam is not a peaceful religion – nor is Christianity. Oh, did I mention that we should tax churches?
Hooray for Bill O'Reilly for saying what no one wants to admit. WE ARE AT WAR WITH ISLAM! Islam is not jut a religion, but a political system as well and both are closely tied. Separation of church and state does not exist with Islam. We are at war with a system of ideology that is completely adverse to our established western ideology. The bleeding heart liberals, like the yentas on the View, are just not getting it.
Who cares what any of these pinheads has to say?
such a follower...can't even make up your own name calling?
The truth is we have forgotten. As we get further away from the actions of 9/11 we become less sensitive to it. The majority of American's feel that there should not be a Islamic center built near ground zero, and if you have visited the site you would feel the same. Yes, we all watched on TV as the plane's collided with the two towers and watched as they fell. We were sickened by it-my daughter was 5 years old and cried that night because she felt sorry for all those children whose mommy's and daddy's would not be returning to them...she came up with that one on her own. And then we found out who did this to us. They may have been "Muslim extremists" but the foundations of their beliefs are the same with those who aren't "extreme". Yes, Bill's beliefs are different from Joy and Whoopie's but that doesn't mean they are wrong. It is amazing how people who scream for tolerance can't tolerate an opinion that differs from their own.
Simply because a majority supports something does not make it ethical. Fifty years ago a majority of Americans supported racial segregation.
Logic has left the building. It seems as though nobody can attempt to prove a point anymore without calling someone names. O'Reilly did what he always does – stating the far right extremist view which is akin to saying that all Christians are killers because of extremist Christians bombing abortion clinics. We cannot group the bad apples with the whole basket. The View ladies did what they always do – stating the far left extremist view that any MENTION of maybe potentially hypothetically infringing on someone's rights (as long as they match their's) is cause for riot. Nobody attemtps to actually have intelligent discourse anymore in an attempt to achieve real progress, which is why I've quit paying attention.
A better analogy would be to say that all women are murderers because so many kill their unborn children by abortion.
The root of all evil in the world is religion.
There where do you get the word "evil"? Without the teachings of the Bible to give us the standards of right and wrong then there is no definition of evil, everything is permissible. Naturalism and humanism have no right to say what is evil but only what is helpful to me so I have authority to do what pleases me. Without One of supreme authority to give standards to His creation then there is no "evil".
The View ? Oh please .....what a waste of space
These two ladies, the ones who walked out, should not have been allowed to come back.
How old is O'reilly? he looks 100.
I notice that there not one but two Christian churches within 1500 feet of the Murrah Building in Oklahoma city where Christians killed a number of Americans. It's a travesty!
Are you guys kidding me? Do you really not see the difference? Even if Timothy Mcveigh was "Christian," which is a widely disputed fact, he did not participate/mastermind the Oklahoma City bombing in the name of Christianity. He did it to get back at the US government for his miscellaneous grievances. On the other hand, the Muslim terrorists of 9/11 acted in the name of Islam, and terrorists world-wide continue to act in the name of it.
I mean really... your ignorance astounds me.
Mr Metz with all due respect your analogy is flawed and the OK City bombing had nothing to do with religion. The Christian religion principles are of love for everyone and that is not what the Muslim religion is about, if you care to educate yourself about peaceful religous principles then I suggest you start here http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/ In this case you can not claim the actions of a few about Christians because that is not what Christians stand for but the Muslim religion is all about killing infadels which is any other religion except theirs. If you are not smart enough to understand that difference then you are beyond help.
You people are all idiots because you are complacent to the fact as to what this religion is all about. It is not a peaceful religion and they are tasked to kill Christians and Jews, if you believe in this then you are sick and need to move to a Muslim country. If you really want to educate yourself, start here http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/.
why is America in the habit of affording OUR consitutional rights to our enemies? and why do these left wing nuts feel the need to be offended for them? These people dont care about us, in fact they want us dead, so why do we feel the need to come to their defense if we think they are being 'demeaned'. Stupid.
Behar doesn't surprise me but Whoopi is usually more rational. Maybe Whoopi's true colors – chuckle – are now clear. Both of the walk-off's are too intelligent NOT to know the implications and the intent of the Ground Zero mosque ... so it seems they share Imam Rauf's agenda. Not just drinking the Koolaid ... backstroking through it!!
Let's just suppose that someone (non muslim) builds a building in that exact proppsed spot for the islamic center and rents it out as a reception facility. Will muslims be denied the rental of the facility or would they just be another paying customer? What if it's rented out for a muslim celebration but the owner didn't know it was a muslim celebration that was going to be held there, what would happen then? This promotion of hatred by people like O'Reilly is why this country has extremists of a different kind. Thousands of people are murdered in this country everyday by non muslims, are they not terrorists? Has anyone condemned a catholic church being built anywhere and promoted hatred against the catholic religion due to all the molestations by priests?
The View makes me embarrassed to be a woman. I think one of the requirements for being a host is that one has to have aroom temperature IQ; certainly that's true for Joy and Whoopi. In addition, both are so brainwashed by political correctness that they couldn't think for themselves if their lives depended on it. I wish this show would go the way of Oprah and gracefully exit stage left. It's a waste of air time.
I agree with Susan. These two are the dumbest and most hypocritical nut bags I have seen in a long time. They get upset because he did not add the word extremist, yet they have not chimed in when their Good Buddy Jerry Brown referred to his rival as a W-e.
I love how the liberal monitory racist party care about "religious rights".... Unless your Christian or Jewish......they fight tooth and nail if a Christian in met ions good, but are all about Muslim religious rights......pure racism.....liberal whites tart other whites just like they used to treat other minorities before they needed them all to win an election.
Democrates and liberals are all part of the reverse discrimination movement. Like you care about religious rights.......build that mosque at ground zero and violence is coming for sure in my opinion...
I can't see the Muslims that go threr not become v,ictims of violence. Every time I see a Muslim now I get rage because of this disrespect at ground zero.
Muslim Americans, this is a losing battle for you.....would you mind if I opened a gay bar in Meca? I bet you have all kinds of reasons for why you would not....just be prepared for massive hate if this gets built, and in my opinion many deaths.
The answer is BOTH!....First, O'Reilly is wrong for saying that since the people who committed 9-11 were Muslims that a mosque should not be built 2 blocks away from Ground Zero. Indeed the people who commited this act were less than extremist Muslims, they were flat out MURDERERS who used religion as an excuse to maim, kill and terrorize. PERIOD. Using O'Reilly logic, then we should blame all Christians or all Irish people for Timothy McVeigh's Oklohoma City bombing. Secondly, as hosts, if you invite someone on your show, especially knowing that their views are controversial, then you should be professional enough to engage in unconfortable, even offensive conversations without storming out. Grow up a little ladies or at least get some tips on anger management/conflict resolution......On the other hand, the whole ordeal could have been staged/planned for ratings. Just a thought.
And how many Muslims have you heard refer to the 9/11 terrorists as murderers? One? Two? Or is it more the case that, like the Muslim world, they were dancing in the streets when they heard of the attack and all the deaths? Even most that were silent sympathized with Atta and all the rest. That's Islam for you.
McVeigh was not a Christian. He was agnostic. He said so himself. I don't know why people feel the need to pretend he was something else.
Bill should have workred for the Nazis
Comments like this one are incredibly irresponsible. You have no clue who the Nazis were and what they did if you actually believe that. Get an education and please stop thinking in public.
I am a muslim, and O'Reilly is right on this. Although he should have said "Extremist Muslims killed us", I understand his point.
The act was done in the name of God according to these nuts.
PS, I don't hate Israel
Ah, Eric, thank you for posting. It's really too bad that more like you don't show up here. I am about as anti-Islam as one can be but very much appreciate your contributions. You may be a rare bird as Muslims go. Unfortunately, most Americans perceive Muslims in this nation as Islam first and America second or third.
Last time I checked the people that destroyed the WTC were of the Muslim faith. You gutless, PC liberal kiss asses are jsut using semantics. Screw the term extremeists. Even the PC punk President and his cronies will not usse the word terrosists or extremists. Right on O'Reilly for putting those liberal elitist bimbos in their place. They demonstrated true liberal intellect.
It's just mind-boggling that Whoopi Goldberg would ask why building a mosque only a block away from the Twin Towers site is inappropriate. And she was serious! So, we're not to tar all Muslims with the same brush as the extremists? Well, have I got news for Whoopi. The extremists ARE mainstream Islam. I wonder how many more bombs have to be set off in the world killing men, women and children of all beliefs by the murdering Muslims before Behar realizes what an idiot she is? Of course, on the View, the entire panel is so stupid that guests have to take dumb pills just to be able to deal with these idiots.
I completely agree with Behar and Whoopie.
No one said Behar and Goldberg were the only morons in the world. Don't run for Congress next month telling voters you agree with View panelists. In fact, you and others that voted for Obama are the reason we're in this mess. But we'll take care of that mistake next month. Getting rid of Toxic Nancy will be a "Joy" to watch.
It is O'Reilly's fault for continuing to go on this idiot only show. These woman are a bunch of whining liberal moron's. If you don't think the way they do, act the way they do, speak the way they do and bascially become them then your nothing. They don't want to have any meaningful discussions. They could have called O'Reilly on using the term Muslim instead of Islamic Extremists (which is what they were, sorry libs), but instead they had a temper tantrum. That's what you get Bill when you want to play in the stupid sandbox!
I should add as well, I was in charge of getting our Christmas cards for work last year and my manager dared look at me and said "Be sure not to choose anything offensive"...and I stupidly looked at her and asked her what she meant, afterall, I pride myself in never offending anyone...but she continued to say that I had to be sure and make sure the cards didnt reflect "just Christmas alone, be sure to get something that says, 'Happy Holidays'...you know, so I didnt' "offend" her or anyone else in the room, I shut my mouth but was sooo very hurt and offended my self in the fact that we are so happy to make a different country's religion more important than our own that all our traditions are going away. This Christmas, I'm shouting "We Wish you a Merry Christmas" from the rooftops and if the other religions don't like it, go back to your own country with your own customs and religions, you're done taking mine away from me!
I understand your debate. A girl in my office has the same argument however it is true that everyone in this country doesn't celebrate Christmas. We try to compare ourselves to other countries by saying "They don't slight there traditions for us" but other countries don't have the lay out that America has. We are a conglomeration of ethnicities, backgrounds, cultures, and religions. Knowing this I believe businesses have to be mindful of certain things but on an individual basis people should be receptive. In short business Christmas cards have to be PC but if you are talking to an individual they should understand that your "Merry Christmas" means well wishes no matter what they celebrate.
Christmas is about Jesus. Period. If others don't like it, that's too damn bad.
"we are so happy to make a different country's religion more important than our own "
What religion is "our own"??? This citizens of THIS country represent many religions, and I don't think it is in any way out of line for a business that deals with customers from all walks of life to try and be as all encompassing as possible.
Yes, Christmas is about Jesus.... for those that celebrate Christmas.
Whether it is Muslims, Christians, Latinos....or anyone else, why do we (Americans) always catagory other groups. Whether it is religion, ideas, language, or skin color....we always have something to say. Sure we all have an opinion, but does it always have to offend others? I always say, look at yourself first, before passing judgement on others. The other side of the coin?????Why are we in Iraq, Afgan. or other eatern countries, instead of taking care of our own problems here in the states, and beleive me, we have our own. I do not feel that an "Entire Religion should be falted for the few", and Whoopie and Joy do have a voice,look at who they were reactioning to....The poster (opinionated) boy of WHAT???????
Wow! I have no time for this but am intrigued by all the arguments posted. Truth is this country is built on differing opinions. When someone has one that may or may not be out of pocket you can't let it ruffle your feathers. You can however use your know how and present facts that enlighten. Also, some people will not allow themselves to be enlightened but you can't let it get to you.......
Those women are sooo far removed from reality i dont see how anyone would watch that stupid show. Just a bunch of biaches all washed up and no were to go.
Absolutely right. What does that say for their moronic audience?
Bill got exactly the reaction he wanted from Whoopi and Joy. That's what he does. He likes to push people's buttons. At the same time, if you can't sit there and have a conversation with somebody whose opinion is different from yours, then we're not very mature, are we? Why anyone would want to watch this crew is beyond me in the first place. As far as the mosque, yes, they have the right to build it there. Is it sensible or sensitive? Not one bit. Therein lies the problem.
They shouldnt have walked out, They should have tutored him on having an ethical thought process. Including 911 we the west have KILLED more muslim people, and DESTROYED more infrastructure than the muslims have wrought on us in modren history and ancient history, by a significant factor. And consider 911 was the result of us being Israel's commanded pitbull. We all have extremeists in all religions and a segment of our extremeists is who "Bill " caters to.
Good thinking, Bob! Maybe you should be a panelist on The View. If your IQ is no higher than 89, you qualify! Oh, and let's not forget WWII, shall we? When Allied forces liberated northern Africa, all Islamic land, are we to be blamed for that, too? Your distorted thinking is one reason the liberals and the Democrats are going to have their heads handed to them next month in the elections. If I were running things, I wouldn't let another Muslim in this country and would declassify Islam as a religion. It's a Mohammed manifesto, a manual disguised in spiritual prose but really intent on hiding its ultimate purpose - to ram his monstrous ideology down the throats of the world. There will be a world war to keep that from happening...and it will be started by the murdering Muslims. Can anyone here imagine being under the yoke of these bearded primitives that spew nothing but hate?
You forget.... it was about getting attention for a book. He did that. They helped. That is what they had him on there for......... to promote a book. It got a lot more attention because of their reaction, and that is what sells more books.
How is that demeaning a religion? He didnt say Islam killed us, he said Muslims killed us, which is a FACT. Why are people so ultra sensitve and so easily offended? Especailly when it comes to terrorists who would not hesitate to kill you or your family, and we feel the need to be offended if someone 'demeans' them. Absolutley insane.
He didnt say Islam killed us, he said Muslims killed us, which is a FACT <-- Oh, get serious. The issue is not that fact. Is that O'Reilly used guilt by association to hold Mulsims who had nothing to do with the attack responsible.
O'Reilly is an ass. Is anyone surprised about this?
O'Reilly represents the unethical and un-American "guilt by association" thinking now spreading on the political right.
Yeah, it's a good thing that the ethical political left would never employ that tactic, isn't it?!?
So, once a gossip columnist always a gossip columnist....is that what you are saying?....Bill Maher used to be a stand up comedian....Jon Stewart used to be a stand up comedian....now they have their own talk shows...but that's Ok, I guess....where is the logic here people??
O'Reilly demonstrated once again what an ignorant big mouth he is! Sadly, he probably reflects the ignorance of most Americans on the Muslim question.
O'reilly is right on!!! Did any of you have relatives lost in 09/11??? Fox rocks and they are truthful!!
You know what they say about opinions, right? They're like a**holes, and everyone's got one. We don't have to agree, but he is allowed his opinion, just like the ladies were allowed theirs. They had to know he would be expressing his opinions on the show. So if they don't like it, don't ask him on. I've never seen the show, but "The View" implies just that, peoples' views. Guess I thought wrong.
The talk show hosts should be able to carry-on a discussion whether they agree or disagree with the guest. The "View" invited Mr. O'Reilly on the show and knew what to expect. These are all semi-intelligent women and should not have let their emotions controll their actions. This could have been a very good interview and shown both sides of the debate but they turned it into a 13-year old temper tantrum. When they didn't like what they were hearing they stormed off to their room.
Pinhead!!! I'm surprised the "R" word (retard) fanatics haven't boycotted O'Reilly and his use of the word pinhead, which is a derogatory way of describing a microcephalic, ala Zippy the PInhead (Schlitzie). The Scrubs guy John McGinley should be on O'Reilly like white on rice while vacillating between sobbing and murderous fury as he decries the horrible slang being slung at his mongoloidal offspring. What a pinhead!
Bill O is a pinhead at times. He always says he's fair and balanced but he's not. As far as his latest comment, he's right, muslims did kill americans on 9/11; and I also don't agree with building a mosque so close to that event. They should be allowed to build their mosque but not near a sacred ground.
It's Bill O'Lielly, he's been exposed as an obnoxious liar by almost everyone, and that's why the GOP and TEA baggers love him Ignore him
Too bad they didn't quit too, stupid a*& liberal progressives ruing this country
Wrong! Republicans ruined this country during the Regan years. Clinton built it back up, then Republicans took us down again. Now Obama has to bring us back from the brink. People who vote republcan are either rich or stupid or have short memories. During both those occupations we had recessions.
First,get all the facts.Muslims didn't attack us terrorists did.Second,if there were no librals we'd still have slavery and women and minorities couldn't vote.
This is why this show makes women look bad. They have played to the stereotypes again and again on this show. When will people wake up and stop watching it. Can you imagine two men walking out on a show and how much they'd be ridiculed for doing so? Yet we just accept all women as hotheaded and unable to handle emotionally charged discussions? Behar and Goldberg should be ashamed of their behavior on behalf of females everywhere.
Don't worry. The whole walk-out was pre-planned so The View would get lots of publicity like on this page and so "all America" would be talking about the big scandal on The View.
And it worked.
I'm confused. Who killed us on 9/11? The followers of Athena?
O'Reilly hosts a lot of people on his show that he fundamentally disagrees with (think Barney Frank, Marc Lamont Hill, etc) and never walks out when the going get rough. If you are going to dish it out, you had better be willing to take it as well. Seems that liberals are awfully thin-skinned these days....
Yes, O'Reilly has people on his show with conflicting views. But when they say things he doesn't want to hear he cuts off their mikes and starts calling them names. He has also been known to send stalker "producers" to their homes to engage in "ambush journalism". And then there was his meltdown with Geraldo Rivera over immigration a few years ago. He's no less unprofessional than you accuse Behar and Goldberg of being, so please don't insult people's intelligence by holding him up as some sort of paragon of virtue and fair journalism. It just ain't so.
I am a huge fan of Bill O'Reilly – but he was very wrong to generalize 9/11. It wasn't muslims who did this crime, it was musllim EXTREMISTS who did.
My guess is that he did it mostly for shock value – and it worked.
He's not a pinhead – he's trying to sell a book.
Al Franken said it best...."He's awful!"
He's not trying to sell a book. He's using a book to further the purpose you saw him at today – dividing America. Taking this great debate, and using it as the wedge to drive America as far apart as he possibly can. Because Divided, we will fall.
So Whoopi Goldberg doesn't understand why people would object to building a "mosque" near ground zero? I guess I don't understand her thought processes, or Baher's either. Apparently neither one of them is very informed about how many Americans feel about this mess.
The world has seen enough to know that Muslims are either killers or sympathizers with the killers. They follow the teaching of their mad dog "prophet" that told them to kill Jews and Christains. islam is no religion. It's a blood-thirsty mudering cult bent on world domination. Let's send Behar to Saudi Arabia (for good) so that she can feel Muslim love for herself. Behar is the dumbest person on television. I mean she is so stupid that if people had to depend on her intellect to save their lives, we'd all be dead now.
There is nothing in the Qu'ran about killing Christians or Jews. That IS NOT ISLAM.
Christians killed more innocent people in the name of "democracy and Christian values" than ALL other religions combined.
Was Timothy Mcveigh a MUSLIM or Christian?
All Muslims are not terrorists, but almost all terrorists are muslims.
Both those nitwits probably don't even have a clue as to what really happened on 9/11.
They should both stay off, it would be a much better show.
The show sucks to start with. Wha, Wha, Whoopi cushion and Behar are mental midgets, with their one sided emotional bigotry pinned to their sleeves. They will do anything they think will attract more viewers. Most of the people watching their show have axles under their kitchens and bedrooms.
And you would kmow this because you live in a mobile home?? LMAO.
Fact: Each man who took part in 9/11 was muslim and they indeed killed people. Fact: The left reacts as noted in this case instead of discussing the issue. Fact: Look at the Tea party people as a group compare them to other groups, no pushing, no fighting, not being disrepectful. no breaking windows, no leaving trash allover the place, the ability to state and frame an idea.
Here's a good idea for both sides lets be honest with each other if not this is going to be a very sad world.
I think they script it all, dont give either side any energy........spend it in your own life.
O'Reilly was asked a question and answered it the way he saw it. We all have a right to our freedom of speech. As
far as Behar goes, since she got her own show she thinks nothing of speaking out and insulting someone. She
dislikes Palin and Mel Gibson, and always manages to bring them up. When Mel was first arrested she claimed that
when people are drunk they tell the truth. Has she ever been married to an alcoholic? The sentence is completely
untrue. She only walked back on the show as she is afraid of the consequences of her big mouth.
The truth is.....ALL the terrorists are Muslim. Not ALL Muslims are terrorists. But it IS what it IS. We Americans don't feel completely safe around Muslims because they consider us Americans infidels and if we don't believe like they believe, their belief is that we should be killed. O"Reilly is absolutely correct. They do have the freedom to build where they want but morally it is not right and it looks to us Americans like they are trying to put salt on our wounds. Or is this all propaganda ?
I just wish every religion could get along with each other. Aren't we all trying to get to the same place ??
The country should have walked out on Bill O'liely years ago. I did. MJY
I stopped watching The View some time ago because if a guest expresses an opinion that isn't shared by some of the hosts, they get hostile. It's pretty sad the way they bully the guests that they invite on the show, especially since they pretty much know what the guest will say when a subject comes up. Definitely not worth watching.
Do people in other countries differentiate between Americans and Extremist Americans (or Christians for that matter) when they say Death to America, burn our flags, and call for the destruction of our people? Btw, look this up in history when Muslims conquered countries, the first things that they would do is build mosques. Doesn't that bring a whole new meaning to building one near the 9/11 site?
You are correct. They(muslims) need to stay out of this country. We obviously do not agree with their crazy "religion" or want them here. They are a danger and a violent presence all over this world. I too remember the way that "muslims" celebrated in the streets on 9/11. We are foolish if we tell ourselves that they are any different now. Also the silence and lack of condemnation from muslims around the globe was deafening.
"Whoopi Goldberg asked why it would be inappropriate to build the center near ground zero, to which O'Reilly responded, "Muslims killed us on 9/11"
Well didn't they? And didn't they do it in the name of there religion? I mean he didn't nothing but tell the truth.
I totally agree with you. It WAS Muslims that killed us. He only spoke the truth. Pretty childish to get up and walk off just because you don't agree. They are probably Muslim too. I bet if they had a family member killed that day , they would think completely different. Too bad.
I'm really tired of all this moronic talk on both sides. It's not as if anyone ever has his/her mind changed in such discussions, so why even bother? Now trying to do something constructive, that's what's foreign to all these yo-yos.
Whoopi and Joy have no leg to stand on, protesting what they believe is an out of line comment by walking out is what is wrong with our nation. No one can tolerate differing opinions. Both of them cancel out any point they might be raising by acting like little children on the set...Bill is who he is, he makes no bones about it, at least he is consistent. Whoopi and Joy do have a liberal agenda that has no tolerance of any type of conservative viewpoints...who, then, the pinheads? I would think that Whoopi and Joy answered that question with their childish actions.
I am so happy when Bill is on The View because he tells it like it is and Joy, Barbara & whoopie doesn't like it when he tells the truth. Today proved that they are children. For Whoopie & Joy to walk off like that today, just shows that they are children! Barbara had NO right to tell Bill he owes them an apology because he wasn't in the wrong but Joy & Whoopie was so they should of but we know better! Grow up Joy, Whoopie & Barbara! They need to have more right wing and not 4 left wings. That isn't fair to Elizabeth. WHAT A GREAT JOB BILL!!!!
How many of you guys want Sharia Law respected in the U.S.? That is the position of the Imam that wants to run the Islamic Center/with a mosque in it near ground zero. No thanks. Too many of these Imam's have been tolerant of extremists in their circles. Again, Bill was wrong to say muslims...should have said muslim extremists, but Joy and Whoopi are as extreme left as Bill is extreme right and they couldn't even stay to debate.
We are all confused when it comes to "Terrorists" or "Radical Muslims" and what is politically correct.
The question is not whether the muslim community should build a mosk near grouind zero, but "What is their motive for fighting to build it so close to the scene". Liberals and Conservatives alike are having trouble with trusting a new group of Americans of the Muslim faith. The "View" will always, however, put out that Polically Left Message, whatever the topic.
Agree
I agree with Bill, they were muslim, so what's the big issue
Bill is an arrogant bully but I have to agree with him about the mosque being built to close to ground zero. The women are paid to be on TV and should have been more professional.
O’Reilly comments were distasteful so is fox always creating false tales to set their terrible agenda I'm very proud of joyce and Whoopi lets not forget Dan Rather got fired do too a false story but you know bill and fox do it everyday and got Dan fired over it. It's people like Joyce who make me proud to be liberal. thnaks
Please state the facts you have on the "False Stories" on Fox News. I would be glad to see the FACTS that you have. Liberals are always spouting how wrong things are without the facts. I look forward to hearing all about them;. Thanks you.
The 911 attackers were not just muslims. The motivation for the attacks was their interpretation of islamic faith. That's why the mosque debate is so heated. It was not incidental that they were muslims.
O'Reilly has a right to his opinion as much as those very liberal leaning co-hosts do. What did they expect to hear when they invited him??? They did this as a publicity stunt to increase their viewership. I for one, have never liked the show–it is trite, inane, and all one-sided. I feel for Elizabeth Hasselbeck.....but at least she has a backbone!
Munchmom, are you serios when you said " I feel for Elizabeth Hasselbeck.....but at least she has a backbone!
" she bawls all of the time. she is a dimwit crybaby. I can't stand hardly watching her"
I am extremely liberal, and I think their behavior was very foolish. I wonder if people in this country will ever realize that America's problem is not Republicans or Democrats. It's the complete lack of civility we have in our political conversations right now. So many public personalities – both conservative and liberal – are just raking in the bucks, because they're willing to feed that nonsense to the American public, and we're stupid enough to gobble it up. I'll bet they go home at night and laugh.
Joy Behar and Whoopi are PINHEADS!!! Good job, O'Reilly. The gals on The View are not worth all the publicity. They should thank O'Reilly for boosting their ratings.
"Muslims killed us on 9/11" What part of that statement isn't true? Was one of them not Muslim? Sounds like an interpretation problem to me. Had he said "They should not build the mosque because all muslims are responsible for 9/11" then okay, you have something there. I lost a friend in 9/11 so I'm bit sensitive to this topic, but his family is hurting and to them, it's rubbing salt in the wound.
I agree with your comment. I see that those that side with Islam have not read the Qur'an. The Qur'an advocates violence towards those that don't believe. Suport Israel!!! Support peace all over the globe.
I watched it and applauded when they did.. His statement about msuslims was no worse than what ignorant whites said about blacks and now hispanics..
That is how i use to deals with things. Well, when i was 12 that is.
I'm not sure why anyone gives confirmed liars like O'Reilly any airtime period. It just lets them get attention. The View should not have had him period. Let him fester in his own filth at Fox. If the actions of Goldberg and Behar were all they could do in the face of network stupidity, then good for them. No one should put up with a liar.
Why do people insist any of these theatrics are rooted in reality? It's all about ratings and they believe people are stupid enough to believe – but I guess most of them are? The reason the View has differing opinions on their show is to garner ratings as explosive TV such as this are a ratings bonanza – what is everyone talking about today? The View – a show that has brainless "talent" – don't believe everything you see people!
I love the view and normally i love all the hosts 'views' but Joy and Whoopi went overboard today when they walked off stage. Perhaps they should have been at my daughters "Christmas Concert", (susposedly) at her elementary school when all this "politically correct" crap started. I didnt hear one traditional Christmas song, it was all Kwanza and other faiiths that I didn't even know existed. I was so upset and most other audience members were about to expode any minute but we waited, surely we'd hear at least Frosty the Snowman or Jingle Bells but to no avail. It got even worse if I ever thought it could when they lined all the kids up in all grades and started singing "We Wish You a Merry Christmas" and we thought momentarily that finally, one song for us! All of a sudden on the line that wishes us a Merry Christmas, was replaced with "We wish you a happy holiday"!!!!! If it wasn't for the embarrassment that I would have caused my daughter, I would have grabbed her off that stage and took her home. I would have happily sat they're and listened to the other faiths songs but they went overboard when they didnt include any Canadian traditions in the whole fiasco. Needless to say, the principal was overloaded with calls the next day and we were promised that it wouldnt happen again. My point? Keep your traditions, your faith while you live in my country but STOP STEALING MINE!!!!!!!!!
Great comment. The country is slowly turning it's back on Christ and the true meaning of Christmas. Whoopie, Behar and Walters did similar things to Glenn Beck when he was on. They didn't walk out, but they sure didn't give him much room to speak either. Respect for different views is taking a back-seat to the "my way, or no way" liberal agenda.
I think they both should be fired. You don't walk opff job. who the hell are they!!!!
By O'Reilly's logic it was Christians that bombed Oklahoma City so we shouldn't let any churches near there.
The Pope helped protect child molesters so we shouldn't let any Catholics near schools... etc....
O'Reilly is stereotyping all Muslims. This kind of demonizing of a whole people is dangerous. (See WWII)
Well said KB!!!!
It's okay to let Catholics near schools. Just not Catholic priests.
No, that's NOT logical. I hope that you don't vote.
Extremists who were (maybe, I don't know) Christian did not bomb the federal building in OK City *in the name of Jesus*
Extremists who were Roman Cathloic Christians did not molest children *in the name of Jesus*
Extremists who murdered 3,000 innocents in terrorist attacks did so *in the name of Allah*, and therefore you can't ignore the role that religion played in their actions.
Yes, O'Reilly made an improperly broad generalization. But it's just as wrong to try to turn it around on others, or to say that religion is irrelevant.
that's Real Talk!!! Now one is talkin about the OKC bombing being an American. Very good point!!!!
I think the ladies overreacted. THE VIEW is where people go to give their opinions. That is why they have so many host, to give different views. There are alot of Americans who feel exactly how O'Reily stated it.
Heres the thing – if Iwalk off my job for any reason – I am FIRED. There are no good reasons to walk off a job if you are an adult
All muslims hate Israel
I've lived in Israel and can assure you that isn't true.
How do you have you talked to all of them!!!! Give me a break wasted words!!!
"david" is trolling. "Greg from Israel", that's funny. Is your last name Johnson? Are you of the Ashdod Johnson's? Son of Benny and Carol Johnson? They are good people, my folks had dinner with the last week. Methinks you're trolling too. As am I.
Lets see now aren't these the same Muslims that put out a magazine on how to kill Americans. Tell me when an American kills someone don't we say that person was killed by an American. Behar and Goldberg need to face reality. They don't belong on a talk show if they walk let them keep on walking, when they get hungry they will be back.
Bottom line is that this is going to be a controversial topic unless they decide not to build it. Although the Muslim religion is itself a preference of belief in holy faith, the extremists that did the killing were Muslim and that is always going to cause an automatic defense mechanism due to the traumatic experience that this country felt on 9/11/01, which we will NEVER FORGET. That said, if you are going to host a talk show, you should know how to behave as the host, and not let your guests initimidate you with their beliefs, which some cannot do due to their lack of experience in this matter. Did you ever see Carson, Douglas or Merv 'walk off'? Of course not. This show insists on having 'hot' topics that the hosts themselves cannot even tolerate talking about. That is what the motivation is behind the hopes of it being a show that attracts viewers.
@MC- Well said
I think the only thing they did wrong was to have this d-bag on the show in the first place to promote a book that, for all intents and purposes, calls liberals pinheads, and conservatives (who are truly ruining this country) patriots!
Personally I think his divisive nature on his show, and the book, proves he is only in it for the money and though he may spout off and defend conservativism, he merely makes the polarization in this country worse – thus, he is not a patriot but rather a pseudo-enemy of the state in my mind.
Joy and Whoopi are too immature to have a discussion. I agree with jz, that they cannot entertain an opinion that differs from their own. Sadly, they make Bill O'Reilly seem like the mature, sensible one.
It would have been better to have just not watched the show at all as both groups represent extreme's.
I had no problem with them walking out. O'Reilly is a completed idiot and I believe Shari hit it on the head.......Muslims killed us? No.....radical extremist did it. The fact that they were Muslims is not the point. If that is the case......are all Catholics pedifiles? I don't think so.......
No Michael, the fact that the 911 murderers were muslim IS the point. Their holy book tells them to do it, so therefore letting people into this country to build and practice this insane "religion" is a security risk for Americans. I say we use our own security laws to stop them. National Security Risk. Period.
Bill O'Reilly and people like him are what will be the downfall of America. They spread lies and fan the flames of racism, religious intolerance, and hatred. O'Reilly knew exactly what he was doing! Muslims did not attack us...EXTREMIST did!!! Barbara was wrong, Behar and Whoopi had every right to walk out on this garbage and if more people would do this, maybe the garbage factory would be shut down!
Yes the are Muslims that are taught to kill Americians.!!
boocat your the idoit moron so its okay to be a muslim but not a christian is that what your saying whatever happen to religious freedom
No Matt, it's you. You're so uneducated you can'ty even tell the difference between the word "your" (as in your post reads like it was written by a first grader) and "you're" (as in you're a right wing moron). Ponder that one stupid.
Bill should not be around people... he is pig and should stay of Fox News with the other idiots. I would not want anyone to be the same building that he is in... Never mind in the same room..
drama drama drama. What little children. It would be nice if they stayed off the set and never come back. Babies.
They were Muslims – Muslim extremists. When you try to separate those two words each looses reference. To just say extremists ignores the fact that they were driven by a Muslim sect that is growing in power and influence in the Muslim world. Whoopi is shutting her eyes to the obvious in order to pretend that it wasn't an act celebrated all over the Middle East. People danced in the streets at the deaths of 3000 people in the WTC. Did we forget that? So we will pretend it was just a few crazies with airplanes – not hundreds of thousands of cheering people who were cupable in the murders.
But it also shows the immaturity of the left in their insistence that they are right and refusal to discuss anything. They simply want agreement or they leave – like spoiled children. That isn't mature – its childish. I think it highlights the simple fact that their political convictions are not based on knowledge or fact but in truth are emotional bonds to an ethereal concept of fair they can't explain or justify.
JZ is a typical right-wing pinhead, calling people socialists. Your kind of intolerance has no place in our society.
Sorry Eric .... you spelled it wrong ............. it's spelled left not right .... you're excused pinhead.
I love statements like this. "Intollerance has no place in our society?" Isn't that kind of an intollerant view? It's like saying "laws should be prohibited" or "the only absolute is that there are no absolutes." It doesn't make any sense.
The ladies (as you called them) over- react everytime someone doesn't agree with their liberal views. Whoopie and Joy's view of this country and of politics in general is scary as hell. As you can tell I'm a conservative and care deeply about the destruction of this great country. The ladies of "The View" are not worth watching and that's why there's an off button on the t.v.
Muslims killed Americans on 9/11 , thousands of Muslims danced in the street celebrating all over the world , have you forgotten already.
Many attacks and killings have happened since , yes , due to terrorists actions in the name of Allah.
These are the facts.
Just because celebrities are in the lime light doesn't mean that they are smart and educated.
Moronic leftists can’t take the truth, and are showing that they are falling apart at the seams at the realization that they are about to be ousted. These women are like watching cartoons; they have no basis in reality. I don’t know why they are given such a platform… they don’t represent any major percentage of real people out there. They represent a 1% minority of loons that make a lot of noise.
Yes, they over reacted. The smart thing would have been to stay and explain to him exactly why he's an idiot.
Bravo Joy and Whoopie! O'Reilly is a blowhard know nothing idiot! Jerk.
The US government allowed 9/11 to happen. They colluded with Saudi extremists to advance an agenda of oil contracting and defense contracts. But that's just paranoid Commie talk, right?
and you have been mislead.
Was Bill O'Reilly wrong?? Did Muslims kill us on 911? Muslim extremists did- right? Are they not Muslims? So, was Bill O'Reilly technically right when he said Muslims?? Of course he should have added "extremists" but not doing so does not negate his assertion that Muslims killed us on 911.
From Toronto, Canada (I have no dog in the fight)
And the English killed off most of the American Indians so that gives the USA a reason to blame all English people? And why can't they build a mosque where they want it? We took all of the country away from the American Indians didn't we? I lost a family member at 9/11 but the hate has to stop or we will be killing off everyone...
You can't blame all Muslim for this. Bill being racist towards the Muslim Religion. It was some Muslims that died in 911also
Nor should they entertain a racist, ignorant opinion.
I think Joy and whoopi should have used some professionsalism and not insult the guest by walking out. knowing Bills reputation , he shouldn't have been invited if they feel this way. Respect to the guest no matter what.
or cut the interview short.
yah...better not to invite someone with a differing opinion in the first place huh? That's the problem with you people...you want to insist that everyone think like you. This is America-and on 11/2/10 you will find out just how many people do not agree with you.
o'rally reputation? watt reputation are you talking about? he will do anything and every thing to for the money he makes and so is anybody else , as long as you have CRETINOS wasting time watching his circus,he is only supposed to keep straight face for one 1 hour and he is having difficult time to do so just like lou down he was obsessed with the immigrant and yet one day suddenly he gave up his program and all the perk because he was investigated and was that he had illegal worker in Hess house,so much for all those big money maker on talk show .
My post above was dierected at jz, who is obviously a tool.
The obvious tool here is you, Sam.
Bill O'Reilly is wrong for existing. Period.
This was staged for book sales. They all pat each-other's backs. Guaranteed Whoopi's next book will get her a spot on O'Reiley Factor and Behar will have them both on her show to boost ratings talking about this incident.
Bread and circus is how to keep the common folk occupied while the rich and powerful run the nation. This was the circus. Are you well fed?
Chris is the only one here that really knows what is going on. We are all being played as fools by those in power.
Chris is right on the money... I am always ammused by the whole left vs. right arguement. As Americans, we love to hate us and picking political sides and getting furious over the arguement is a way for us all to vent our frustrations. But while we amuse ourselves has any but stopped to see what our friends in Washington are REALLY up to? Make no mistake brothers and sisters, politicians are like coins... whether left or right, heads or tails a quarter is still a quarter and a politician is still a politician and by definition is a liar that will say what ever you want to hear as long as they get to stay in power. My question is this: Are you better off today than you were 10 years ago; fifteen years ago? Aren't you tired of empty promises from BOTH sides of the isle? Sure, it is easy to say it was all George W's fault or it is Obama's fault but is there really a difference? i agrue that there is not because at the end of the day it is still just a politician. I can't tell a differenc between Nancy Pelosi's tauted "first 100 Days" and Newt Gingrich's and neither can you. I'm not a Tea Party activist but I do think they have one thing right. We need to clean the ROT out of Washington and HIRE people who will listen to the American People and not just continue lying to us and filling there pockets with our hard earned money!
Behar and Goldberg are pinheads. Agree with jz that they are left wing nuts who cannot tolerate anyone who does not agree with them. They are also very unprofessional.
Apparently you don't watch the O'Reilly factor much. He does the same thing, except that he's a right wing pinhead like yourself.
Joy Bahar and Whoopie Goldfinger must have a very hard time sitting in their chairs every day and not falling
off to the left. What a couple of baffoons! Bahar yaks on and on about things she knows nothing about and
just makes a complete fool of herself..... and Whoopie is a complete fool already. Don't watch the View because
of those two ...... sorry I missed today ..... sounds like a hoot.
Bill O'reilly I agree with This cracks me up, Barbara W alters need to hire people that have class like she does, The two that cursed and left showed their true colors. WHY are they on TV on a talk show which is supposed to bre open minded.
O'Reilly is just doing his job, like the rest of mainstream media. He's focusing on the bogeyman of the moment so that we can create an imaginary villain and the public will support constant war. The media is doing the bidding of the elite, pushing false left-right paradigm on a daily basis, distracting us from the real treachery that exists. Democrat, Republican, what's the difference? We're still trillions in debt and at constant war. The only person to come close to sanity is Ron Paul, yet the media constantly calls his ideas "radical". Right, more radical than being trillions in debt whilst engaging in perpetual war.
Ron Paul may be a bit of a protectionist but he is correct on the majority of the issues and I supported him in the primaries. He didn't play ball with the establishment so they try to brush him aside.
Paul is a jerk and you know it. Keep it real, Who put us in the hole!!!!! I don't like every thing Obama is doing, but He came to office with the mess. How can anyone do anything to fix a crisis this big in 11/2 year. If change is done quick then it won't be right. Bill ment to do that. Christians have Cults that kill people and do all kind of crazy things.
yes, that is right! His job is to raise ratings, which means name recognition, and he certainly got it at the expense of the ladies.
And they were being . . . just women. Right? Hysteria all over the place.
And O'Reilly is a typical right wing nazi who cannot entertain an opinion that differs from his own, much like yourself.
as opposed to those left wing liberals who are always non-objective...please !!!! you can't disagree with them either unless you want to get attacked....why do you think Barbara stacks her show with these liberal women....I don't care for any of them and never watch The View because that's what it is ....The View according to liberals.
I'm sorry, but evidently you can't read, the ladies walked off, Bill stood like a man. Learn to read first before you scream you liberal jaded opinion.
Small-minded Sam, you're clearly out of your league here. Time to mosey back to your hate-infested, regressive friends at HuffPo. Say hello to the choir.
O'Reilly is a typical right wing nazi who cannot entertain an opinion that differs from his own, much like yourself.
I may not always agree with O'Reilly but he can usually at least back up his opinions with some facts and logical reasoning rather than pure emotion. I've also seen him conceed a point when someone could back up what they were talking about even if he didn't agree with them completely. Calling anyone a right will nazi just because you don't agree with their views is childish and proves nothing except that you can call names. It's exactly what is wrong with what the ladies on the view did and with all the politicians on both sides. No one is willing to compromise or talk . The ladies on the view were speaking from emotion rather than using logical thought and backing up their opinion and acted childishly by walking off. While I agree with their opinion to some extent that's not the best way to get your point across.
Bill should have said "muslim extremists" otherwise, the actions of the 2 hosts that walked off is unprofessional and an over-reaction. 70% of the country believes we should not allow a mosque built around ground zero, especially with an Imam that believes Sharia Law be respected in the U.S. Interesting that some on the left defend the most archaeic and backwards religion that still puts down women and is too open to extremist teachings based on the Koran.
John, I believe you provided the only even, logical response to the article... it is too bad that extremists on both sides only cite illogical references referring to the man's former profession. Take a look at 'the view'. I mean, what is that other than Hollywood gossip. What makes the hosts any more credible???
I'm sorry, did the Catholic Church start allowing women priests? I must have missed that.
What? Christianity doesn't have extremists? Anybody remember the Branch Dividians? O'Reilly knew he was insulting the whole religion and you sir are blind to the fact that all religions have used violence in order to try and dominate over others.
Jeeshh....you have so many facts but then you call it a mosque and totally discredit yourself...so close to a good point. The fact is it's discriminatory not to let them. No way around it and no court of law will ever agree that it isn't without the decision being appealed the next day. It's an interesting way to get people fired up but a huge waste of time.
What's the big deal? There is already a mosque in lower Manhattan around that area. There certainly isn't a shortage. No one is asking for those Mosques to be removed. The problem isn't the Mosque, the problem is the Imam behind it who won't speak out against Sharia Law,or at least communicate to the muslim world to respect Americans. I think if I were a muslim American, I would go out of my way to speak out against any mosque that was being backed by an Imam the respected Sharia Law and who is tolerant of religious extremists. FYI…I don't think Whoopi gave Bill a chance to clarify his statement. He either would of clarified it to mean extremists, or he would have said no, I mean all Muslims. By the hosts walking off, we'll never know…
To the person who used the David Koresh Cult as one example of Christian extremists, I beg to differ. When one man isolates a group of people, changes their lives to suit his "teachings", wants to rewrite the Holy Bible, etc. he is not a Christian. David Koresh was many things, but a Christian he was not!
The issue of the mosque being built is one of zoning. When the Greek Orthodox Church wanted to rebuild in that area they were denied by the Zoning Board & shown other parcels of land they could have.
Now that a Muslim Religion wants to build in the same area, we are going to not only allow it but possibly use Tax Payer money to complete it.
Wake up people, our government and Hollywood has already chosen a religion and it ain't a Christian one
Joy is no joy to listen to and watch...whinny voice, she is a rebel of her own faith!
Colin, Women may not be preiests but atleast modern Catholics don't advocate beating them or dening basic human rights...
So ellen, does that make him a Mormon?
Need I remind everyone Hitler was "Christian". The Nazis were "Christian". They wanted to kill Jews and Muslims because they were "Christian". The 9/11 attackers and Al Qaeda are "Muslim". Both groups were extremist. I think everyone, in the world, needs to chill out and remove the quotation marks around their faith and actually start practicing it.
That said, building a mosque or whatever on the 9/11 site is a bad idea. What seems like a better idea to me is to build a center for religious tolerance. Maybe an open market style setup as a tribute to our First Amendment religious rights. Open to any religion. Regardless it should be some sort of memorial park. I realize real estate is limited in NYC but this seems like a prime location for a National Memorial like Pearl Harbor. Two wars were started because of what happened there and many thousands have died.
Ellen – and that is exactly the point. The people that commit these terrorist acts are no more followers of Islam than David Koresh/Jim Jones/Jimmy Swaggert/Jim Bakker were followers of Christ.
Well said, John. You correctly point to the bigger picture. Thank you!
Ellen – David Koresh was a Christian; and extremist loony Christian, but a Christian. Now you feel insulted when somebody tries to put you in the same bucket with him. Correct? That is exactly the whole point of this discussion. Someone that doesn’t have the values/education needed to understand how outrageous and offensive O’Reilly comments are is probably closer to David Koresh than to Jesus.
It would have been better for them to keep their cool and reasonably point out why he's such a fool.
Yes and that would also be the adult thing to do. When O'Reiily was on Jon Stewart he called Stewart a pinhead to his face and Stewart just laughed and continued with his interview. Professional on Stewart's part and just O'Reilly on his.
The truth hurts sometimes.... O'Reilly is correct.
About what- that a few extreme muslims aattacked us and that makes all muslim's terrorists? Really- what about the extreme christians that do crazy stuff- does that mean that all christians are crazy and extreme? Lumping people together- especially on the extreme side- is dangerous and hurts everyone.
O'Reilly has been on the show a couple of times before, so both sides knew what to expect. My problem is that O'Reilly continues to have dis-respect to entire religious belief & if he is not careful... If you keep annoying the beast, the beast gets angry (Wolverine in X-Men 2). Smile people, we only have a couple years left on this planet. Peace.
If you take a loook at your response, you referred to them as EXTREME CHRISTIANS. In the media, they are only referring to them as Christians. Is there a difference here or again are we just thinking about being PC. Get a grip. It should be built a few blocks away out of respect for the fallen. We respect their right to worship on the rug anywhere they desire. Also, what was the ORIGINAL name of the so-called center. Think about Spain being conquered, the first mosque built, the name of theh city, the name of the mosque, and the significance of it.
LEARN, THEN SPEAK!!
Joy and whooping need to get a grip. So rude and so hateful!
Belle
About what- that a few extreme muslims aattacked us and that makes all muslim's terrorists? Really- what about the extreme christians that do crazy stuff- does that mean that all christians are crazy and extreme? Lumping people together- especially on the extreme side- is dangerous and hurts everyone.
October 14, 2010 at 1:55 pm
lol i love how people always bring up christian extremist's when talking about muslim extremist's....Belle, exactly how many christian extremist's have flown planes into buildings?
Belle,
When did O'Reilly say all Muslims are terrorists? I missed that in the story.
He said that it would be inappropriate to build the center there because Muslims killed Americansn on 9/11.
If you don't like hearing the truth, then go move to Afghanistan or Iran were your opinions as a women will be respected!
See how often a man will let you talk back, argue, disagree or even express your opinion without being beaten for it. Maybe if you lived a day or two over there you would have a little more understanding of the problems that the most Americans have with the Muslim religion and building an islamic center at groundzero after 9/11,
If you look back into history, we lovely Christians had our hands very bloody while we roamed the globe during the Crusades. We killed anyone who didn't want to convert to Christianity. That seems like a Terrorist act to me.
Why do they always bring up the crusades? The crusades happened from 1095-1272. Please explain what the crusades have to do with Islamofascist terrorists killing innocent people all over the globe today? In fact, the crusades are widely viewed as the vehicle by which much knowledge in areas such as science, medicine, and architecture was transferred from the Islamic to the western world. So, perhaps one should read one's history before regurgitating leftist anti-Christian talking points.
Hundreds of blacks in the south were lynched in front of a cross and in the name of the Bible.
David Koresh killed dozens of people in the name of Bible.
I can keep going all day.
Following your logic Christians are terrorists and mass murderers.
Jon...you are correct. Christians have done some horrific things. But when talking about the Inquisition...we don't refer to those Catholics as Catholic extremists. We all get painted with that brush. When the Hindu and the Muslims slaughtered each other after India won it's independence neither group was segregated into just the exteremist category. In 1983 in Darkley, Northern Ireland, when a group of Catholics with automatic weapons burst into a Protestant church on a Sunday morning and opened fire, killing three worshipers and wounding seven. They weren't labeled as Catholic extremist. The whole Irish mess is referred to as a Catholic/Protestant war....not a war of extremism. A group of Muslims killed the people on 9/11. They had extremist views not reflected by the majority of the other people who follow the same religion but all of this PC crap does not make any of this less true. And we are giving special labeling to a particular group that we don't necessarily give to others which actually divides them further. Every group out there has a radical fringe...do we really have to say that every time....REALLY. I think we are all smart enough to GET IT Already!
All religions are equal in our country. They will build their community center with Mosque inside because we are a land of laws and a land of freedom.
I wonder if Iraqis don't want Christian churches built in their country after Christian Extermists invaded, destroyed the government and infrastructure turning a 1st world nation in 3rd world.
Yes, they overreacted. Aren't differing opinions what that show is supposed to be all about? If somebody says something you think is asinine, let them look asinine. Then you can prove them wrong if you can.
Don't get me wrong; I would have wanted to walk off too. That's why I'm not a talk show host!
In response to TEN; you state that we were built on freedom of religion and capitalism and to that I’ll remind you ! "In GOD We Trust" is always on the American Front of what this Country, United States of America was built on.a fundamental fact that is too often forgotten! And for those that believe their religion is no longer about their core belief like extreme Muslims ruining that faith than maybe it's time to look for another faith to believe in. I'm a Methodist and if it became clear that Methodist were considered extreme cowardly murders I can tell you for fact I’d no longer want to be affiliated with that religion! Maybe the Muslims should take offense with the extremist ruining their faith. And if that doesn't work for them than maybe they need to find their own place, since clearly the extremist have definitely overused their welcome here in the United States of America!
I've known dozens of Muslims and by and large they are normal, peace-loving people. Many of them do express their frustration at the extremists who are giving Islam a bad name. But that is no reason to quit being Muslims.
And for anyone who cares, I'm a Jew. As in, I'm supposed to hate up on Muslims and being hated up on by them. There are 1.4 billion or so Muslims on the planet. Of those 1.4 billion, 19 were 9/11 hijackers. Try keeping that in perspective.
@Clearly, "I'm a Methodist and if it became clear that Methodist were considered extreme cowardly murders I can tell you for fact I’d no longer want to be affiliated with that religion!"
So are you telling me you're a Methodist of out convenience? Because that's what your statement sounds like. I thought the whole basis of the believe system for ANY religion is that however you interpret what that system preaches you follow, because you believe (accepting as TRUE WITHOUT ANY PROOF OF EVIDENCE OR FACT). If all it takes are the words and actions of some who don't believe to shake your faith to the point of you denouncing it, then you and anyone else who would do something like that make a poor example for 'a person of faith'.
The ability to believe in ANYTHING is a strong one and while it has been the cause of great pain; 9/11, it has also been the force behind alot of good; tearing down of Berlin wall, right of women to recognized as persons, the first black American President. I have faith that the amount of people who believe in positive things far outweigh those who don't. I wish your faith in your own religion was as strong as my faith in the goodness of the human race.
What if they wanted to build a YMCA? They were also men, weren't they? The logic doesn't follow.
Excellent response. I wish I had thought of that!!
Because the "C" stands for Christian and as far as we can tell the terrorists were Muslim, not Christian.
Jtolb65 – I wish you and those that share your opinions had the ability to maintain any kind of linear thought... beyond connecting the first two dots. Yes, I'm sure the extremists that directed the planes into the towers were screaming, "I do this in the name of Men everywhere" It was religious extremism. They have a right to build the Center where they want, but it shows a lack of sensitivity and is wrong to do so. The parents of a murderous pedophile have a right to buy the house for sale next to the parents of the victim, it doesn't mean that it's a good thing to do.
They didn't declare "Men are great" and perform their murderous duties in the name of "masculinity", they did it in the name of Islam.
Young Mens Clubs of America
YMCA
Sheesh
Bobolobos, "The Y" was originally founded as the "Young Men’s Christian Association", so Ray was correct there.
Ten, YOUR logic does not apply. The terrorist activities were done in the name of Allah, not because all parties involved share anatomical traits. To have a building celebrating the religion that was the inspiration for so many murders near Ground Zero should be offensive to all, not just those of us who are enlightened enough to see past our own egos
@LivingOnForeignSoil – But that point wasn't apparent in O'Reilly's comments. Besides, John Hinckley, Jr. attempted to assassinate Ronald Reagan in the name of Jodie Foster, but it doesn't mean she supported, condoned or otherwise had anything to do with the act ... should she have moderated her behavior because of it? Timothy McVeigh carried out his attack on the Murrah Building in Oklahoma City in opposition to the federal government, does that mean all who support a more decentralized government are considered terrorists and should keep away from Oklahoma City? Extremist Muslims are managing to sway American opinion against all who practice any form of their religion – you can let them do it, I guess, but I won't. This country was built on the basis of freedom of religion and capitalism – to restrict either out of fear or righteousness is short-sighted.
By their own actions the terrorist made the events on 9/11 a religious matter. They are the ones who preformed the acts in the name of their religion, claiming the it was the will of their god. The other Muslims were not exactly coming out in droves to denounce their actions were they? While Bill was trying to stir things up, and Woopi and Joy swallowed it hook line and sinker, and reacted unprofessionally. In my opinion the centers location lacks consideration for the victims and the loved ones left behind. One of the biggest problems facing this country is extremists period, religious, political, or other.
It is because they're men! How can you not see that. Their anatomy has everything to do with it. When war and violence begins to be carried out, fueled with, and directed by women, then we can talk. Until then, I say it's men who are the issue here. Muslim, Christian, Hindu, SubGenius, FSM, whatever the flavor– it's MEN.
Does that sound ridiculous to you? Hmmm... it's actually starting to sound pretty obvious to me. I might actually be on to something.
No matter how much I read today, this will easily be the dumbest thing I read.
Because they didn't just happen to be Muslim. They did it in the name of Islam. Their religion was the reason they did it!
The Village People are busy doing that.
Ten- I didn't read all 17,000 comments but so far yours is the most logical. Thank you for the refreshing comments.
Istenno, I actually think YOU DO have something, here...and it's something I'll be considering in the days to come on my YouTube channel. Thanks for making this excellent point.
@Ten... your argument fails. I don't think you could follow a logical argument if it had you on a leash.
Using the logic all muslims are responsible for 9/11, the all so called christians should be held responsible for the murders of abortion doctors, the deaths of children who were not allowed medical treatment because "GOD" will "fix" them, and all the other countless murders "extremist" christians have committed. Should all of christianity be held culpable just like you people think muslims should? All of you are hippocrits!
We should allow them to build their Mosque there when they allow Jews to build a synagogue in Riyadh.
Ten, your comments are the most sane out of those I have read. For those of you choosing to see the acts of extremists as a representation of the Muslim community as a whole, I think you are just taking the easy option (hate often takes the least courage). If you gave your reasoning any thought you'd see it simply leads to more hate and extremism. Have the courage to look past the convenient and do the work to make the world a better place.
The on-air tantrums of Goldburg and her sycophant show clearly why Fox News dominates the airwaves, and that O’Reilly is a media genius. Socialists will tolerate no discussion, no deviation from the party line, no free speech. O’Reilly understands this, (as do those of us who have lived and suffered under socialism). Like Obama, they know best, and the rest of us had better comply with their beliefs, or else! O’Reilly simply pressed the right button and got a predictable reaction from two women who should have been smart enough not to tangle with him publicly.
Someone speaks the truth and says it like it is.. Stop pandering to the muslims. Not all Muslims are terrorists but it seems that all terrorists are muslims. Where's the disconnect!!
I just want to praise Ten on his logic and reasoning when he defended his answer. Anyway I think a great analogy for this would be the pope getting shot and forgiving the man. Also I think this would be appropriate for WWI WW2, as in if we do not forgive our enemy's and treat them like lesser people we have a bigger problem on our hands.
where our country has gone wrong is in making an accusation includes all of one sector of people..i look at it this way..what religion was timothy mc veigh with? it is a known fact tha he was a right wing extremist so did we catagorized ALL political right wingers terroists!? NOT, probably because the right wing didnt associate with mc veigh because it was hitting too close to home!! so, terrorism is actually a label to be given to ANY group that is associated with a extremist terrorist! so way is fox news allowed to be televised? point made!!
Well, as soon as you can show that YMCA's are fertile recruiting grounds to terrorists and suicide bombers you'll have a valid point. Until then...not so much. BTW, I'm atheist so it's not that I'm defending Christianity. More accurately I'm pointing out your ignorance.
Ron – Religion is not why they did it. It was/is the extremist Imam's within the religion that brainwash these people into believing that killing for Allah is a good thing and is part of the Koran.
This group of women is an embarrassment to women everywhere. They are prime examples of the fact that fame and wisdom seldom coincide. I am fortunate to have better things to do with my time than pay attention to their empty-headed antics.
I think it's funny how Christians have openly murdered, stolen, enslaved, and lied for their own personal gain for centuries, and it's okay to build a church on every street corner. However, a couple of guys do the same thing in the name of Allah, well, they can't build a community center. I think that's very hypocritical. And don't tell me the Christian bloodshed is in the past, because it still goes on today. Remember the war we're currently in? We call ourselves a Christian nation, but it's okay to murder people as long as it doesn't happen on OUR land. Very hypocritical.
Logic? What does that have to do with anything? People throw that word around all the time, but few have any idea what it is. Btw, others have already shown how 'illogical' your comment is. Why anyone would even watch this show, let alone be interested in what Joy Behar or Whoopi Goldberg think is beyond all logic.
I agree with O'Reilly – Muslims were the ones who attacked us and religion had everything to do with it. Muslims consider Christians to be "infidels" that don't deserve to exist. Wake up America! If it looks like a rat and smells like a rat, It's a rat!
YMCA? Seriously? Now you're just grasping for irrational responses. YMCA's are used by both men AND women. Would Muslims allow a woman into a mens club? Not likely unless they needed somebody to stone. It's a stupid show and Joy was just looking for a reason to be overly dramatic. He should not have had to specify whether they were extremists or not, either way, they were Muslims, but I do not agree that all Muslims should be discriminated against and held accountable for what they did. Maybe they are retaliating against the Christians for the persecution during Crusades by Pope Ubran II in 1095. Religion has caused more problems than any other reason in history, I say we ban religion.
All terrorists are Muslim, eh? Timothy McVeigh, Catholic, killed 168 people in Oklahoma City, so no churches in Oklahoma. Scott Roeder, Christian, killed George Tiller in Kansas, so no churches in Kansas. The Phineas Priests, Christians, bombed a clinic in Spokane, so no churches in Washington. Eric Rudolph, Catholic, set off four bombs, including at the Olympics, so no churches in Georgia or Alabama. Not to mention countless acts of violence against gays and lesbians in the name of God intended to incite terror in a community. Extremists exist in every religion (although we're still waiting on an atheist terrorist to kill in the name of atheism) and Christians just won't let Muslims outdo them in the world of terrorism.
Right and of course then, the people that object to the community center should also object to the building of a church anywhere near the site of the Oklahoma City bombing, since wasnt Timothy McVeigh a Christian?
@Sd J
What are you talking about? There are plenty of Christian Terrorist groups and they have a serious body count behind them. The only reason the narrative does not focus on their Christianity as a 'reason' is that the viewers are also Christian.
Typical fare from the cast of the view. If you can't handle the guest, just walk off the set. God forbid anyone should disagree with their "view'. I agree with O'reilly about the mosque. I guess I'm a pinhead too, Barbara.
So if someone had done murder in the name of Christ, which happens every day, then it's ok? The Afghan war and Iraqui war are waged by the "God Bless America...and fu** the rest of the world" group which means Christian and in that case it's ok to kill all those people in the name of God. People here are monumental hypocrites....
I'm not a fan of Joy Behar, Whoopi or O'Reilly. They're all either extreme right or extreme left. Regardless of their views, Behar and Goldberg showed cowardice by walking off. If they disagreed, then deal with it and stand your ground. Don't walk off with your tail between your legs.
They did it in the name of their religion. YOUR logic doesn't follow. They didn't do it in the name of manhood. I'm also for making sure to differentiate between Muslims and extremist Muslims, but don't use an illogical argument to try to prove the logic of another argument.
I do not understand why so many in this country are so blinded. The MAJORITY of Muslims think and feel as these extremists do. Not a minority but the MAJORITY. This is throughout the world. They hate America, americans and what we stand for as a country. It is tasteless to build this center near the heart of such a tragedy.
It's funny how people react when they don't agree with someone. Ms Behar and Ms Goldberg have every right to disagree with Mr O'Reilly, however, their walking out on their own show just shows how unprofessional they can be. It's almost childish. When Mr O'Reilly disagrees with a guest on his program he doesn't walk out, he argues with them. You don't have to like or agree with whatever your guest says, but respect that they have the right to sat it. They are voicing their FREEDOM OF SPEECH. That's what this is all about. Thanks to all our servicemen who protect this for us.
This whole blame islam for the act of a few is really stupid! Im christian and have always practice the christian faith. So am I to convict every christian for the murderous acts that have been carried out in the name of christianity? Each individual no matter what there faith will be judged for there acts not the acts of others. Besides Bill O'reilly is a bigot and racist who is he to judge anyone?
You are getting hung up on your opinion vs. his...O'Reilly was expressing an opinion that is shared by the Majority of Americans. If we need to modify it to emphasize that these are "muslim extremist" and not just "muslim" then that is an important part of the discussion. But walking of the set makes Joy and Whoppi look close minded and childish. I have seen controversial people say controversial things on the view and they don't stomp off the set. If they don't want to hear a conservative opinion, then they shouldn't invite a conservative guest. The show is well done but is clearly liberal biased and these two hosts have demonstrated a closed mindedness on many occasions. I want to hear all sides of issues and debate and discuss them rationally like adults.
To blame all Muslims for the atrocity of 9/11 is about as logical as if Muslims were to blame the crusades on Mormons, or as logical as accusing the Pope of being a Southern Baptist! There are dozens of threads in Islam, just as there are in Christianity. They have enormously different views. But I have to believe that Bill O'Reilly knows that – he 's not a pinhead, he's a smart guy. That being so, it's hard to avoid the conclusion is he is just giving into bigoted, racist malice.
NO ONE is suggesting the Imam does not have the right to put in the Islamic Center.
We are questioning the wisdom of said Center at said location based on an apparent lack of sensitivity.
Compare and contrast: Muslims want America to be sensitive to their beliefs; ie, no pork, public prayer 5 times daily, public modesty, etc.
Christians have fewer public beliefs. Christians rarely protect criminal christians and certainly when compared and contrasted to Muslim criminals. The Muslim faith orders the faithful to support their brothers regardless and to not cooperate with other beliefs. Christianity does no such thing.
These differences among a few others are what are creating the barriers between these two faiths sytems.
As to the TV personalities having their tiffs on live television, they showed their belief systems to viewing Americans and though a TV audience apparently applauded, I would doubt that most of the viewing public felt so endeared by the departure. Oreilly represents a sizable portion of the population. You may not like that, but its true. He represents my views almost entirely.
BILL, YOU GOT MY VOTE WELL DONE !
It appears that everyone forgets all of the international video of muslims around the world celebrating the attacks. Not all muslims, but not necessarily all fanatics.
I understand how some people want to distinguish between muslims and muslim extremists, but you should not be allowed to call people names because they generalize and make them out to be monsters when they did not intend to be such. Being "politically correct" is becoming a chore these days. Joy B. has loosly used the term "Christians" in many of her unfair comments and nobody calls "her" on it. People are trying too hard to make other people look bad. Of course he is not a muslim hater and why do we jump to that conclusion...because democrats jump to make republicans look bad. FINE HAVE IT YOUR WAY – MUSLIM EXTREMISTS WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11 – EVERYONE HAPPY NOW. They are legally able to build where they want, but in my opinion, and I do have a right to my opinion, need to be more sensitive to the issue at hand. Why are they so persistent in building there when they could just build somewhere else without controversy? Ever think of that?
this is america and you all have your opinions and so do i so anyone who thinks muslims should build anything near ground zero is an idiot and definitely anti american, yes bill o'rielly was right, muslims destroyed the twin towers, he doesn't have to say radical muslims, we all know they were radicals but the fact reamins they were muslims and all muslims are crazy, their life style sucks and if you don't think it does then go live over there where they stone women for infidelity but did you notice they didn't stone the guy, their laws and their rules are barbaric and if you don't know it already in their part of the world they don't tolerate religious freedom, it's their way or the highway, so stop sticking up for them, i think behar and goldberg are idiots to begin with but i thank them for proving it to america...
And O'Reilly used to be a Hollywood gossip columnist which is akin to a parasite.
Agreed.
...and you're a right wing idiot who doesn't engage his brain before running off at the mouth.
JZ... O'Reilly is blaming an entire religion for the actions of a minority of people. I don't blame them for walking off stage while he spoke. O'Reilly's comment was bigoted, and racist. What about these 'Westboro Baptist Church' people who protest soldier's funerals in the supreme court fight right now? They don't represent all of Christians... It isn't a matter of differing opinions, it's a matter of respect, and tolerance that O'Reilly and the extreme-right seem to lack.
Then Bill must be a typical socialist incapable of discussing his opinions with people who differ from him, since he himself walked out on an interview with Terri Gross (well, hung up, since he was on the phone). Here's the article: http://www.npr.org/yourturn/ombudsman/2003/031015.html
I can't stand anyone who won't listen to what the other side has to say. And I say that as a pretty liberal guy. They were wrong for doing that, whether they like O'Reilley or not, unprofessional as an interviewer on their part.
Lol. As opposed to right wing tyrants who think anyone who disagrees with them is left wing socialist right? O'Reilly is a tool. He says he believes in freedom and patriotism etc. etc. but anytime I see his show it seems to me that he only believes in his brand of freedom and patriotism and supports stripping rights of those with different ideas of freedom from him. And BTW, it isn't a mosque by definition as a mosque can be used for nothing but worship and this is used for many other things. That's like saying that a food bank is a church because there is Christian sponsorship involved. And this country was founded on freedom of religion. On 9-11 I cried right next to an Islamic Pakistani foreign exchange student so this whole idea of Muslims automatically being evil and this being called by the right as a "victory mosque" holds no water here. Just think it through a minute and leave the knee jerk reaction behind cause I thought the same thing until I thought it through...
Its kind of the point of the show that they have some liberals hosts, like Whoopi, and some conservative hosts, like Hasselbeck. Hasselbeck actually stumps for the GOP and was a big part of the McCain campaign.
Similar to Ole Bill on the right
Anyone who has liberal leanings is not a "left wing socialist." That is too simplistic and easy expression that is being played by the right wingers these days. I don't think they should have walked off the show (it is their right) but they should have had strong comments to put down the senationalizing O'Reilly who wants to antagonize folk to sell books. He should have used the term "extremists" but he knew exactly what he was doing. They fell for it. Now anyone who disagrees with them will use that dumb expression as sited above. How quickly people forget about the Timothy McVeys of the world.
Funny, when Christians are attacked they are not addressed as Christian "extremists".
Where is the hypocrisy there?
Well put!
I second Sam's motion.
Whoopi needs to realize that tolerance is a two way street.
Just shows how narrow-minded libs really are.
Neither of these "gals" could carry Bill's briefcase yet as liberals they show their "smarts" by walking off.
Still don't understand people condoning the behavior of these Hollyweird wackos.
Guess we shouldn't extect any less from liberals or The View.
The View...P U........................
Hey, Bill is the same way. He's a right wing extremist who feels that anyone who isn't with him is against him. He shouts down anyone who differes from what he says, and questions their patriotism, like he did to Jeremy Glick.
O'Reilly is your typical right wing fascists, he cannot entertain an opinion that differs from his own.
Did not one of you making these comments hear the apology from Bill? He corrected his statement and said 'extremists" I'm sure he was distracted during his comments with Whoopie and Joy jumping up and down and yelling like idiots. I believe The View should serioulsy consider getting rid of both of them! They bring NOTHING to the show!
The sad part here is that people think that just because something is a 'religion', that it's peaceful. You should all take a moment and try to understand the core elements of Islam. Islamic Sharia ring a bell to anyone? (Islamic Law). There are thousands of former Muslims, Arab Muslims, who are trying to tell the world what this religion is all about at its core. It's not peaceful. It's sole goal is world domination -make the world Islamic. I'm not totally convinced yet, but I'm reading and listening and the more I read, the more I hear, the more I see that truth under all of the hyperbole and hysteria.
Yes, they have a right to build the 'Islamic center' there, a legal right in this country, but there's a different reason for them to be doing it. I believe, anyway.
The whole "Politically Correct" thing is getting really really old... I could care if you like Whoopi or O'Reilly but I thought that Barbara Walters was the ONLY host who handled the interview correctly. Joy and Whoopi sitting there rolling their eyes and even using language on public tv was embarassing to them. Barbara didn't agree with Bill but she had poise and even charm in her interview with him. As a host they should be able to have a discussion and state their difference of "opinion".. not walk out! Just immature. O'Reilly doesn't need anyones vote. Like him or not he is a smart man and whether you think he's a Pinhead or Patriot makes no difference to him. This was a reminder of why I don't watch The "View". They are closed minded. They will always, side with the Polically Left Message, regardless of the topic.
1) Since when has left-wing, Socialist, and liberal become interchangeable? I'm neither a Socialist, nor do I consider myself a left-winger (which I equate with the more radical form of liberal), but I do consider myself a liberal when it comes to human rights.
2) While I would agree that Whoopi has the reputation of being a left-winger, a closer look at her individual views - something many people don't bother to do - shows that she is quite moderate in her views on many issues. Behar, as well, is more moderate than most give her credit for. This is symtomatic of politics today...don't debate on the issues, don't investigate someone's personal views, just call them names (most of which are inappropriate and are straight out of a party's talking points) and forget the issues.
Now to the real issue here...O'Reilly is woefully lacking when it comes to being factual. He KNOWS that the Center is not a mosque, and will not hold religious services. It's whole focus is to try and MEND the rift caused by 9/11 by offering a more moderate (and typical) educational view of Islam. Saying that "they" (the entire Muslim faith) killed those victims on 9/11 is like saying that all Christians murdered and tortured non-Christians to convert them during the Spanish Inquisition. As a Christian, myself, I recognise the fact that extremists of ANY faith are individuals and do not represent the religion as a whole, including my own faith.
"Muslims killed us on 9/11". For the sake of discussion, let's not talk about how simplistic that statement is. Let's try that logic on for size...
– "Christians killed a whole lot of people during the Crusades". So, I guess it's alright for the rest of the world to refuse
to refuse to build churches!
– "White pilgrims killed us and took our land when they came to this country". So, I suppose it is alright for Native
Americans to demand that EVERY BUILDING across the entire United States of America be torn down!
If the term "conservative" means "arrogant, idiotic moron", Bill O'Reilly is certainly one. I can understand why the hosts walked off the set in total frustration. However, I wish they had stayed and pointed out how unbelievably wrong and dangerous O'Reilly is!
'The View' should be taken off the air. I've tried to watch it for a very few minutes.....every show is nothing but bullying – why would anyone want to watch a bunch of childish idiots? No wonder kids in school think it's ok to bully – it's on TV all the time...........isn't that something we are trying to stop?
How can you possibly compare the two things? One is an Islamic center (I like how the con morons in this country refer to it as mosque only) which has nothing to do with government and the other involves the separation of church and state (governing). You're an idiot too.
That doesn't even make sense.
Read the article again fool. It's not a mosque it's an Islamic Center. Apparently you're just as much a bigot as O"Reilly.
Yeah, Liberals want people to have the freedom of religion to build temples where they want, but they also want people to have the freedom of religion to worship how and when they want without being directed by the government.
What a bunch of hypocrites!
You're a moron and you have know idea what you are saying. Now go get me a sandwich and make yourself useful.
Matt ... you're not making any sense. And maybe you should stay off the Internet a little and study your grammar. As you can see (well, maybe not!) I have used "you're" (contraction of you + are) and "your" (meaning belonging to) correctly.
Spend more time educating yourself instead of publicly showing no class ...
National Day of Prayer when will congress make the 4th of July a actual paid holiday for all Americans – it is only suggested to give this holiday – let's start with a day dedicated to separating the Church and the State before we start claiming to be a religious state.
Are they going to pray to Allah in the Islamic Center, Oh they are then it's a Mosque. Let's open a Jewish center next to it. They only want a center there to fuel hatred. Obama wants it there because he is Muslim, he had dinner for the start of Ramidan in the White House for crying out loud. Let's see if he hosts dinners for Jews, Christians, or any other religion. Praise Obama moron. The View, those chics are just as stupid. Joy that woman needs to just crawl under a rock and take that so called comic Whoopi with her. Barbara needs to fire both of them. Walking off the show let's be a little more professional than that. Nice hosts idiots.
Combat veteran...
People pray in city halls, schools, at parks, etc. – that doesn't make those buildings churches.
To believe Obama is a Muslim shows your stupidity. He also celebrated the start of the Jewish holiday with a meal at the White House... so does that make him Jewish or can you make up a new term to combine the two???
Maybe it just shows he believes in respecting the America of our founders who decided to separate church and state.
@CombatVeteran: You're wrong on just about every point. Muslims pray 5 times a day wherever they are. That doesn't make every location they use a mosque. President Obama in fact HAS had dinners for Jews, Christians and other groups. President Obama is NOT and NEVER HAS BEEN a practicing Muslim.
Would be nice if you got ONE fact correct before spewing your ignorance all over the place.
METAPHYSICAL DOOM!
it's not about religion.
Those two coincide.
They don't want to be biased for/against any religion.
They want to do away with the national day of prayer because it is centered around religion.
They want to build the mosque because people are focusing on the religion of the people wanting to build the community center.
Think logically man.
As far as the Muslim question on Obama. Well sorry people... He was a Muslim in his younger years in Indonisia, he practicd it with his step father. He claims to be Christian now...But who cares.
Bottom line this is not an appropriate location. Its not against the law... But it should be off limits due to the FACT that the men who flew those planes into those buildings killing over 3000 people did it in the name of the very god they want to pray to from this Mosque... Build your mosque... But not there... Oh, and libs... Get over yourselves, please... Your childish. This is all its about... Keep your eye on the ball and stand up for your countrymen for crying out loud!
Yeah Matt, that was a a pretty stupid statement. I agree with everyone else, you are an idiot!
Liberals say that they have the RIGHT to build their Mosque. Liberals believe in separation of church and state. Liberals are for the RIGHT for them to do it. THAT has NOTHING NOTHING NOTHING to do with religion. The national day of prayer has EVERYTHING to do with SEPARATION of CHURCH and STATE. That was CREATED from allowing someones religious belifefs to influence laws. THERE ARE THOUSANDS of religions and people SHOULD NOT BE TOLD WHEN THEY HAVE TO PRAY TO ANYTHING!!! You have the right to do it anywhere you want, whenever the mood strikes. But the government cannot tell me when to pray or salute anything beacuse FREEDOM is what AMERICA is ABOUT!!!! What is so hard about this!
@combatveteran
Ever hear of a place called the YMCA?
There's one in every city. Guess what the C in that acronym stands for?
http://www.ymca.net/history/founding.html
The YMCA, and it's lesser known compatriots – YWCA – were founded as Christian oriented community centers with bible study programs for Christians. Even today, they're not just gyms. They offer day care, counseling, and a variety of other programs. And yes, they also offer programs that incorporate christian principles and materials.
The Islamic Center is going to be little different that a YMCA but I don't see of you neo-cons getting your panties all in a bunch over the Y's being "indoctrination centers".
And anyone who thinks that christians haven't done their share of murder, mayhem AND terrorism is either incredibly ignorant or blatantly lying.
And before anyone labels me as "anti-christian"...let me tell you ..I'm am ANTI-ORGANIZED RELIGION.
I believe in God. I do not believe in all the little sects that men have created to divide, manipulate and control people.
Combatveteran,
If Obama is muslim for celebrating Ramadan with a dinner, what does that make George Bush? He started the tradition and did it every year he was in office including just after 9/11. Obama has had Easter breakfasts, and Christmas dinners to celebrate Christian holidays. You morons don't pay much attention to anything unless it fits in with your blind ignorance.
Which liberals are these who cry, and do you have some YouTube clips of them crying? This thing they're building is ugly as home-made crap and is more like a YMCA for Muslims, but it IS legal to build on land you own as long as you can afford it. I think they should build it over in Jersey next to Snooki, but I don't want the law changed to where you and I can't build churches for the Flying Spaghetti Monster across the street from it.
You got your fact mixed up. Liberals tent to want the let them build, conservitives don't.
I'd pay a tax for you, Rove and old Bill the pinhead to have your own, small, paradise somewhere.
I can't believe that there are so many fools who don't understand the Islamic Center or Islamic Prayer Center is just a fancy name for a Mosque. The Muslim moderates are just putting lipstick on a PIG. Mosques in USA/Germany etc. don't have minarets and they are called Islamic Centers.
I disagree with you about him being a fascist. He is a demanding right wing conservative with some strange ideas (I have read 3 of his books) but he is not a fascist. He wants what he feels is right for his country. Please you do not have to agree with him but labeling him a fascist makes you pretty much the same.
Hey Lz, it was your two yenta buddies who walked off, so it sure wasn't O'Reilly who is not tolerant of differing opinions. Got it, kid?
No but Christians are called "Right-wing extremists" "Evangelical extremists" You get the point. Any one who differs from the opinions of the day are labeled as extreme, funny I am old enough to remember when truth actually stood for the truth, not some media driven spin.
Why would you listen to a comedian and a regular old journalist and whoever else is on the view? Are there views and opinions better than his?
The women over react. They look stupid for walking off. All of the hijackers WERE muslims. Can anyone deny that? What is wrong with what he said.
When an Israeli settler, who is in their own way an extremist, does something everyone refers to him as a Jew or an Israeli. Why the double standard?
How can anyone take Whoopi seriously????....I want to know what weed she's smoking because she's so high off the ground....GET REAL Whoopi!!!!! Would her character or intellect have the wit to defend the Christian faith, or does she see simply see all Christians as extremists???
And what did you used to do for a living? STOP calling people who convey the facts degrading names!!!
Mal, please don't bring facts into this discussion: it is kryptonite to a liberal.
It's funny... When you started off by mentioning yammering idiots, I thought you were going to talk about the entire cast of the View.
I wish they would bring back Kung Fu Theatre!!
BaBa Booey
Why on earth would anyone listen to this blabbering moron, this man doesnt listen to anyone but himself, he talks over everyone on his show, loves to hear himself talk and there is no way but his. The best thing to do is walk away from a person like that, u can't argue with a flippin wall!
Helloooo? It Was All STAGED. The View's Rating have been DOWN – AND GOING DOWN STEADILY for awhile now. What better way to gain National Attention? Think People.
And while O'Reilly may irritate some, his knowledge and experience (+ popularity) speaks for itself - That's if you have even ever listened to him. If you haven't, how can you even attempt to make any judgment or statement at all about him?
common sense. It was all about getting their ratings up - Pretty smart. Made National News didn't it?
This is exactly why I won't watch The View or the Joy Behar Show. She is a loud-mouth woman who is so far away from the things I value, that I can't stand to watch her.
My wife watches The View, and some of those ladies are stupid, trying to hard to be politically correct... An Islamic Center??? Really!!! it's a freakin mosque!!! or is the term mosque also inappropriate or politically incorrect? The term extremist is only an attempt to disassociate from islam or muslims, that's all. The fact is, they are muslim. If your'e a peaceful muslim, then good for you. Oreilly has the right to say what he feels. Are those hosts going to walk out simply because someone says something they disagree with? They're ridiculous!
There is a difference between a culture and a religion. Implementation of religion can be influenced by culture much more than religion itself.
He is a pinhead!
Actually he was a social studies teacher in a high school.......good job leaving that part out moron. Friggin libbs are killing this country. Move out if you're not happy. It was MUSLIMS that commited the act, he was 100% correct and if these water-retaining sea cows can't argue correctly, then they shouldn't be on the show. Get more intelligent people on there and then the show would actually be worth watching!!!!!!
No, DMG, I have to disagree. One thing O'Reilly IS, is very careful with his words. He knew exactly what he was saying, when he said it. Over and over, he has shown he will use the language that will cause the most contraversy, valuable for someone trying to make money by hawking a book. I'm not calling him names, and I actually have been known to agree with him on a few points, but here he knew what he was doing!
total agree! eric rudolph who was a catholic. in re: to the olympic park bombing, would bill say catholics killed americans?! no, i'd hope he'd say an extremist killed americans.
O'Reilly is dangerous??? You're kidding, right? You want to see dangerous just look at the fool who currently occupies the White House.
do you know what Quran teaches? if you do, you wouldn't make those parallels, because they don't make sense.
9/11 highjackers were actally following the teachings of Quran, while the other two examples were complete opposite of what the christianity teaches. and you should study what the 'conservative' trulely means too.
@Josh: That's because there isn't a national firestorm over whether or not men are responsible for sick terrorist actions and there aren't any people picketing outside the Men's locker room at the gym claiming that they're safe havens for murderers.
No they weren't.
While technically the people who attacked us on 9/11 were muslim, that isn't the point. The point is how you frame the war. If you say "Muslims attacked us on 9/11" then in your view we are at war with islam. A lot of people certainly feel that way. And it is easy to see why the ground zero mosque would make them angry.
On the other hand, if you say "Terrorists who happened to be muslim attacked us on 9/11", then in your view we are at war with terrorists who are incidentally muslim, but we are not at war with muslims as a whole. A lot of people also agree with this view. And since they don't view Islam as the enemy, but instead see moderate muslims as important allies, it is easy to see why they support the ground zero mosque.
That said, I definitely think they overreacted by leaving the set.
-Bob
I consider myself very patriotic (and Christian) American, but find several flaws in the thinking of my fellow citizens:
First off – people from every religion, ethnicity, and background perished on 9/11 – Muslims included.
Secondly – it is primarily an Islamic Cultural Center that they want to build near Ground Zero, not just a Mosque...perhaps if people could grasp this then the pigeon-holing of an entire religion for the choices of a few extremists could be addressed. The whole purpose of the Cultural Center would be to educate the public about Islam as a religion and culture – a little education would do everyone a world of good!
Third – there are an ABUNDANT amount of strip clubs near Ground Zero – are they not on 'sacred ground' too? Shouldn't they be closed out of respect for the thousands of Americans who lost their lives in the Trade Centers? Should we ban anyone who wants to open anything near Ground Zero? What about Starbucks, McDonalds or any other major corporation who will want to capitalize on the amount of people who will visit to pay their respects to those who were lost by opening a new store nearby? Where does it end?
Fourth – What about freedom of religion? Our great nation was formed off of those fleeing religious persecution from those in England; how are we any better if we start to rally against a major religion not only in our country, but the world???
Just my thoughts...
All of us need to get a grip... Though I don't agree with the hosts walking off the stage, I can understand their resentment towards hearing blanketed, generalized statements. My best friend is Muslim and his heart was just as heavy as mine and everyone else that I know. It is difficult, often times, to relate to each other or to walk in another's shoes, but geesh, we need some friggin compassion for our fellow man.
The problem with his comment is NOT that he said "Muslims killed us on 9/11"...they were muslim. The problem is that he equated the US Muslim citizens who are devloping the islamic center (which by the way had already been holding muslim prayer services for over a year before the media got hold of it) with those Muslims who murdered americans on 9/11. I don't see the problem with the Islamic Center by ground zero; Muslim Americans were killed on 9/11 too it wasn't just non-muslims! And...it's freaking New York City!! It's a huge melting pot of people/religions/cultures...there's temples and mosques and curches and sinagogs practically on every cornor...it's really NOT that serious!
Ya know how psychologists/psychiatrists tell parents to walk away from their child when they throw themselves on the ground in a fit of temper tantrum? That's all Whoopi and Joy were doing – walking away from a child who is acting strictly on immature emotion with no ability for any element of intelligent thought. We are doing to the Muslims exactly what we did to the Catholics in the 1850s, and what we did to the Baptists in the 1790s. It scares me. when will the shooting start?
I don't think he doesn't want a mosque there just for the mere fact that Muslims killed us on 9/11. I think he thought that Whoopi would pick up on his point, and have a little common sense and realize there is a sensitivity issue at hand, and that's what matters most. You wouldn't want to put a trench coat factory right next to Columbine High School? Sure they have the right to make trench coats where ever they want, and the people who frequent that store will have absolutely nothing to do with the massacre that happened years ago. But there would be an outcry.. and rightfully so.
What show is this? Do people watch it? What a bunch of idiots...
WHO watches, "THE VIEW"? Nobody cares what those screaming women think.
Joy is there for the money, she would take sides with whoever is the best bet for her to make money. I would never watch her for two seconds. I have tried to watch her show ! So boring.
I am surprised at whoopie though. I always though she was a very intelligent person. Now I have my doubts.
i totally disagree with bill oreily's politics or what he said on the view, but i am more bothered by whoopi and joy walking out on the interview. bill oreily has the right to say what he said. debates require 2 people acting like adults and debating the issue. what good does it do, if people get up and walk out. that is not democracy. in a democracy all parties have to be heard from
Are you people kidding me? Bill O knew exactly what he was saying when he said "Muslims attacked us on 9/11". Despite what some will say, he's no idiot. He knows, as most do on Fox, how easy it is to whip up the uneducated sound-bite driven fox viewership...and it works! I would bet if he said something like "all Muslims hate america and want to destroy us" half of his viewers would believe him. This bumps ratings, and they make more money. The sad thing is, it effects elections.... As far as walking off the set – that is unprofessional, but it's a lot more responsible to do that than to continue to spread irresponsible comments that contribute to increased racism and bigotry as Bill O'Rilley does.
Aren't those who attacked on 9/11 Muslims? Wether they are Extremist or Moderates, the fact is they were Muslims, isn't that the truth?
jimmyc1955, you completely miss the point. You do not define 1.5 billion Muslims, the vast majority of which a peace-loving, by the actions of fringe extremists that pervert the precepts of their faith, just as you do not define me as a peace-loving Christian by extremist fringe fellow 'christians' who pervert my faith by participating in violence and war in clear violation of Jesus' teaching of Love, Compassion, Forgiveness and Pacifism. Until the Great Apostasy that occurred under the reign of the emperor Constantine, Christians were forbidden to serve as police or in the army as doing so would violate Jesus' commandment of non-violence. When Jesus disarmed Peter, he disarmed all men past, present and future. Christians mmay never kill or harm another human being, just as Jesus lived his life and set the example.
My friend some words of wisdom – you NEVER define the whole by any of it's parts. There are good and evil people of all faiths, all cultures and all races. Because some are evil does not make ALL evil.
Now think of this. The building of the Islamic Center repudiates and spits in the face of the terrorists. How so? They had two motives; 1 kill as many of us as possible, 2 foster enmity between the Great Faiths and hopefully catalyze violence by Christians against Muslims since such violence would swell their ranks and foster more extremism. The center instead is designed to foster dialogue, mutual respect and community among people of all faiths – a perfect repudiation of all the terrorists hoped to accomplish.
With all due sincerity.
It wasnt the Monks, Christians or Buddhist IT WAS THE MUSLIMS THAT STARTED THIS WAR... America is the Greatest Dumbest Country in the world.. Muslims are at war with us and we dont even know it...
I used to like the view when they stayed away from politics, but I can't put up with the extreme leftism on the show anymore. Not that I like the extreme right crap either, but I don't watch Bill O.
@BC – ever hear Bill O with his famous comeback "cut his mic!" – maybe he doesn't walk off his own but he does force his guests to by cutting their mic. if we're going to talk about the standard for tv hosts let's start with the rudest of them all, Mr. Bill O'Falafel.
This is a ridiculous partisan argument over semantics and anyone with half a brain knows that. The hosts shouldn't have walked off, that was close minded. O'Reilly shouldn't have played free and easy with his over-simplified terminology, he's to smart to act the innocent.
I'm an atheist and although I would never judge another's personal worship it seems unforgivably tribal. Why should you build a church down the road from me where christian members of a white supremacist faction killed multiple people ? Religion should be a private covenant between you and whoever you pray to and every individual should be judged on their actions, not their ideals.
Fear-based conclusions and extremely stereotypical judgement is both anti-American and above Bill O'Reilly who I normally respect.
"Josh said: Muslims did kill people on 9/11. Fact. The only thing incorrect about his statement was that he used the word "us"."
The technicality of his statement isn't what got them upset, it was that he used that statement as a reason for preventing the mosque from being built near ground zero. That is what is stupid about his comment.
Why in God's good name do the producers for this show invite this bone-head on the View? He is one, if not the, most antagonistic, rude and arrogant people on TV. He realy has nothing to add to any discussion. It's all about the jerko himself. He, Limbaugh and Colter ar equal in their arrogance.
Don't be a moron. If I say seaguls crapped on my car today does that mean I'm implying that every seagul in the world is responsible for it? No it just means that more than 1 seaguls crapped on my car. In exactly the same way when I say Muslims destroyed the twin towers it simply implies that more than 1 Muslim destroyed the twin towers. Some people just love to find a way to be offended.
Jeffy
Timothy McVeigh was a Christian terrorist who killed hundreds of innocent people in the Kansas City bombing of the Federal Building
If you are going to comment get your facts straight, McVeigh was an ATHEIST, not a Christian, and the Federal Building he bombed was in Oklahoma City Oklahoma. He did it as retaliation for the Waco incident at the Branch Dividian Compound. Educate yourself or keep quite.
I agree with Bill in the sense that it is inappropriate to put a mosque in the place in which islamic fundamentalists tarnished. Furthermore, it's a slap in the face to those who lost loved ones. They go to ground 0 to remember a loved one that fell on 9/11. The problem is that grief is exacerbated with the presence of a mosque. In a sense we are commemorating those who flew the planes into the twin towers instead of the innocent victims killed at work. Having said that O'Reily should have stated the difference between Muslims, and extremist muslims. That kind of forgetfulness will add fuel to an already rifted party system between the right and left.
You can't cherry pick the Koran without reading the bible I was raised on word for word. Levitacus and the sin of cutting your beard ? Getting tattoos ? or my absolute favourite when the exact same fundamentalists point fingers at others; Deuteronomy 22:20-22 ... How reasonable do you think stoneing a woman is if her hymen isn't intact ? Lunatic, hypocritc positions once more.
Perhaps he should have said, "The men who killed us on 9/11 were Muslims." You can say such things in the USA and not demean a whole religion. Christians know this firsthand.
The VIew is just a show that programs the minds of poor viewers who can't afford cable or i net. Clearly you see the ingnorance of these people right off the bat! I would like to see the people behind "The View" who fund this leftist radical show. Do some reseach on the backers of this Mosque while your at it, the backers support & fund terrorism FACT, just some food for thought.... REAL CHANGE IS COMING!!!!
well, you can say that because Muslims did kill us. and in the name of Islam. are all muslims bad? no. but did muslims kill american people? yes. were they extremists? yes. again i say, are all muslims killers? no. but we cannot remember 9/11 without recognizing that these were murders commited in the name of islam. i am an o'reilly fan, simply because he tells the truth, but i am primarily upset by this because joy can never put her political views behind her and actually have a discussion. ever. neither can whoopi. primary example of the liberal media. and no one can deny that the media is liberal. go bill!
The only pinheads in this scenario were the hosts. Rather than have an intelligent discussion they behaved like emotional spoiled children.
The actions and beliefs of few do not and should not represent the beliefs of the many. The same goes for the extremist Christians as well.
..."THE VIEW" is a Boring show with A Bunch of Cackling Old "Hens". SHould take them to the Children's petting Zoo...with Pleanty of Chicked wire..so they cant't escape.
Bill O'Reilly is inappropriate on so many levels, but, so is republican TV "Fox News". Mr. O'Reilly should have said Muslim Extremists. I think he said "Muslims killed us" to incite what occurred, not necessarily an inappropriate walk off by the hosts, but, to incite an argument. Typical GOP tactics.
Muslims didn't kill us on 9/11? Hmmm, I could have sworn they did.
They probably shouldn't have walked off the set, although it would be hard to sit next to a tool like O'Reilly and not have some kind of passionate reaction. Yes, the terrorists responsible for 9/11 were Muslims, but they do not represent the entire religion. That's as stupid as blaming the entire Jewish faith for killing Jesus. I wonder if O'Reilly is actually as idiotic as he seems?
I could not sit at the same table with Bill O'Reily either. His vitriol and out and out lies that folks who watch him believe is true just turns my stomach. The man should be tarred, feathered and dropped in the middle of no where.
Timothy McVeigh was not, I repeat, was NOT a Christian!!!
Muslims did attack us on 9/11. Not the Muslims a few blocks away, but the Muslims who attacked us.. attacked us. The Muslims that attacked us don't think they are extreme. They think me and you are extreme. People need to stop being so PC all the time. O'Reilly wasn't trying to demean a whole religion and he apologized IF you interpreted it that way. You interpreted it how you wanted to. Bill clarified what he meant, not all muslims... understand?
maybe it's just time we got rid of hatemongers and patent liars
Muslims killed almost 3,000 people near ground zero on 9/11. The men in the planes were Muslims. Just a FACT.
The Muslims who planned and executed the attack were very adamant and clear that this was an attack by Islam as a Jihad against the Infidel America intended to send that message to the center of the infidel nation and destroy the economy of the evil western civilization. Don't you remember the celebrating in the streets of the Islamic world at the time?
This is an extreme action of followers of Islam who are engaged in Jihad by their acts of terror.
Americans hear very little from the peaceful Muslims.
Ground Zero is a cruel location for a community center named Cordoba.
The very fact that any of the developers insist on this location demonstrates the total inability to have Clue 1 on how to build bridges. Just not very savvy on creating a peaceful coexistence. Maybe peacefulness is just a more tricky notion than Jihad in Islam. Keep trying ... practicing peaceful behavior will eventually make one better at it.
If the plans were changed by the developers to assuage the sensitivity of the majority of Americans it would create an outpouring of good will toward the peaceful Muslims. It would jumpstart the whole process of healing and shared community that is sought. I KNOW this alone would create more peace than any community center would create in a lifetime.
His statement is correct when he said "Muslims" killed us. He did not say the *religion* of Islam killed us. He is identifying a group of people not a religion. Muslims, Indians, Chinese, Americans, etc are a group of people. Christianity, Hinduism, Islam, etc. are religions. It's funny that the hosts of The View can berate, insult anyone that do not agree with them, but the moment they disagree with someone...they walk away. Unprofessional for anyone regardless of their point of view.
They should outlaw all organized religions that say they know what's best for the rest of us & that they will kill us if we don't support them. Religion has killed more people in the name of God than all wars put together. Worship the Real God & legalize weed.
TO THOSE WHO THINK TIMOTHY MCVEIGH WAS NOT A CHRISTIAN: In a recorded interview with Time magazine[81] McVeigh professed his belief in "a god", although he said he had "sort of lost touch with" Catholicism and "I never really picked it up, however I do maintain core beliefs." Throughout his childhood, he and his father were Roman Catholic and regularly attended daily Mass at Good Shepherd Church in Pendleton, New York.
Don't you just love to have someone to heap your unconditional hate over now that the commies are gone?
Why do people keep compare Mcveigh to what happen on 9/11. They attack us on 9/11 in the name of religon (yes they Muslim) and yes not all are the same. Mcveigh did not blow up the Federal building in the name of Christanity. It was purely a attack in the name of states rights against the Federal goverment. religion had no baring on his attack
If these women did not want the truthful answer, (as O'Rielly sees it) they should not have asked the question. The bottom line is that the attack on 9/11 was carried out by Muslim extremeists in the name of their religion. Someone earlier said that Timothy McVay is a Christian but Christians didn't kill the people in OK City that day. He is correct, but Mc Vay did not do it in the mane of Christ. We Christians have our loons in the fold as well: just look at Fred Smith in Topeka Kansas protesting the funerals of our fallen heros.
@David: I think the requirement to discuss it "rationally" went out the window when O'Reilly starting spewing irrational crap like "Muslims killed us". That, to me, is hate speech. I wouldn't tolerate it either, so I can see why Goldberg and Behar left the situation.
Whoopi and Joy were wrong. I'm a proud Liberal, but, uh, it is 1000% factual that Muslims carried out the worst single attack on U.S. soil, ever. And it is entirely wrong to ignore this, for the simple reason that to categorize jihadists as a "few extremists" is ITSELF prejudicial, ignorant, and the sort of narrow-mindedness my fellow Libs accuse the other side of doing! It demonstrates a clear ignorance of what's going on globally from MANY Muslims' point of view. There is a big difference between extremism and jihad. One indicates being off-balance. The other a broad, cultural and religious philosophy, one that more than a "few" embrace.
If we start as recently as the '72 Munich Olympics, and go down the list: Achille Lauro, airports in Anthens, Vienna, Rome. Bombay, Bali, Mumbai. Lockerbie. TWO World Trade Center attacks, only one successful....This list could go on and on.
"Few extremists" is entirely inaccurate. Thousands, hundreds of thousands, of jihadists are and have been conducting war against the West for a long time.
What bothers me as a just person is that the Left is demonizing anyone who feels unfortable with Muslim places of worship and/or gathering centers in their community. The FACT is, we are seeing American-born Muslims becoming radicalized in this country and bent on killing as many fellow Americans as possible, as well as seeing Muslims in our cities and towns engaging in long-standing Muslim traditions that go against what we believe in America, like honor killings, for instance, which are in fact taking place for some Americans right next door.
So folks have every right to be concerned. I mean, radical Muslims can come and go freely in this country provided they are not breaking the law. But if they wanted to recruit, where would they go? They certainly won't be fishing in the synogogues.
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I am sick to death of that loud mouth Joy Behar and somewhat more palatable Whoopi Goldberg and their disrespectful displays of ignorance!!! If they don't happen to agree with a guest's point of view, they shout...scream over and as we saw today walk away from the set. They are hideous examples of what is WRONG with the liberal viewpoint and wrong with TV today! I very, very rarely watch "The View" and today sealed the deal. I will NEVER EVER watch again. (Sorry Elizabeth...you should have your own show).
Just another example of a Republican who knows better, and probably thinks better, selling out to get the rabble-rouser vote. Just be aware that for every energized racist hick there is a thoughtful, responsible conservative who has given up on what the Rethuglicans have become. The "us vs them, we must act now or it all blows up" stuff is a ploy that only hooks children – big, whiny, reactionary, racist children.
What a worthless show the view is! Why does anyone watch it? Very, very sad people.
Bill O'Reilly was amiss in implying all muslims attacted the US on 9-11. But he was the guest there to express his views.
The two walk offs are suppose to be the show's professionals, not knee jerk responders. they're actions were very UN-professional. Get some else to take thier places!
Bravo to these ladies for walking out. It's similar to our ambassador to the U.N. walking out when the Iranian president claimed that the 9/11 attack was staged by Americans. Bill O'Relilly is a hate monger. Hating one's fellow Americans is not "patriotism." Bill O'Reilly says outrageous, hateful things because he gets paid to do that. But he encourages his followers to hate other Americans and to hate their government. Walking out on that kind of thing is a truly patriotic act.
Let me preface by saying I am not a rep or a dem (thank god for free thought). I think O'Reilly is a fool usually.
Muslims did kill us on 9/11. In America we call them "extremists" but in reality they are much closer to being real Muslims, they live their lives much more in line with what is written in the Koran. What we call "Muslims" in America would most likely not be considered "good" or "devout" Muslims by any stretch. Have any of you people ever read the Koran or gone to the middle east????????????????? I have spent almost 3 years of my life in the middle east as a soldier in the US Army and have read the Koran and spoken with many people over there. The simple truth is if you are a true Muslim, live your life according the Koran, I can see no way how could possibly be interested in living in America.
I suggest to all of you pathetic liberal idiots that you try reading the Koran. You need to accept reality sometimes. Water and Oil do not mix and actual Muslims do not mix in America. Stop using the word "extremists" for the terrorists, refer to them simply as Muslims (real true Muslims, not the watered down, Americanized version) and refer to all the joke/ fake/ in name only but not practicing Muslims as moderates or Muslim-lites or something because as usuall the media is running wild with misinformation in this sad day of PC-craziness.
I am limited as to what I can say because I do not want to get in trouble but just so you know. Even the Muslims who do not attack us over in Afghanistan do not like us or want us in their country by and large. The mountains where I did most of my work were controlled by ancient tribesmen known as the Pashtun, and they do not attack us usually but they do trade with the Taliban, they do have a direct working relationship with the Taliban and Al-Queda, in fact it is widely known in the intelligence community that if we could simply get the Pashtun to stop helping the Taliban/Al-Queda then we could eliminate them with ease. I am just sick of idiot liberals destroying this country with their unrealistic view of the world.
In America we have our own extremists, we must let them rant, but we dont have to listen.
Bill O'reilly has done a great job. I think The View needs someone like Bill to make this tv show balanced.
let me see, didn't another so-called Mr. Know-it-all get cut down to size on the view--! Oh yea
Bill O'Reilly is a pig and a bully. He's the problem with this country. People are becoming way too polarized. If we don't work together to meet in the middle (instead of calling each names and bashing anyone whoe doesn't agree with us) our country is going to fall apart.
The terrorists that attacked us did so in the name of their sick version of Islam. While their group may be a small percent of the total Islamic faith, they would see a Mosque at ground zero as a shrine to those zealots.
David. You're going to say that O'Reilly should be treated with respect on someone elses show? Have you seen how many times he has told someone to shut up or demanded that their mic be turned off on his show? Really???
@Boiling in Boston – Mcdonalds, Starbucks, and Strip clubs did not take down the twin towers
The View women aren't supposed to be objective reporters. Each is hired to express a singular point of view including political. I understand the right is well represented on the show. So if O'Reilley makes an outrageously offensive statement they have a choice: Mount a challenge to his nasty little statement or walk off. Because to remain silent indicates tacit approval. Which of course is unacceptable to Whoopie and Joy (I asssume). Perhaps they couldn't stomach a whole show devoted to reaming O'Reilley so took the streamlined approach.
How unprofeesional for them , glad Barbara called them out. As a talk show host, you shouldn't insult your guest just because your Liberal mind doesn't agree. Very, very uncomfortable to watch, guess I will skip the show tomorrow.
His rational for the Mosque is that "Muslims killed us on 9/11"...in that context he is saying ALL Muslims...It would be very unfortunate to stop this building from being built (or any other) based on the religion is represents...We are going backwards, not forwards with our prejudices...it is very sad. As for Whoopi and Joy walking off...they needed a cooling down period...very sensible I think...
Bill O'Reilly is a nazi.
Did everyone miss the demeaning remark he mad before Listen and learn? At that point I would have walked off. No then adain I wouldn't have been any way near him.
In all fairness, O' Reilly was correct. They were Muslims. He simply stated a fact. The "walk-off" girls missed their chance to debate him on it.
When the fact is since 9/11 I haven't seen Muslims in mass denounce what took place that terrible day I'll have to agree with O'Reilly. In every Muslim country they celebrate the events of 9/11 so the pinhead stamp is on everyone who believes otherwise. Christians everywhere denounced McVey, I'm still waiting on that type of denouncement from the Muslim world. We're approaching 10 years now...
Bill O'Reilly has just punched his ticket out!!! I am not going to watch his show anymore because it is his childish actions that keep our country from moving forward. What a joke he has become. I am a republican and now I understand what is really destroying politics. I think independent is the way to vote these days. I don't understand why this country keeps going around in circles with media! SOMEBODY PLEASE STOP THESE UNEDUCATED LOUD MOUTHS!!!
You're right being offended that O'Reilly correctly identified the terrorists who killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11 as Muslims. It would have been politically correct for him to call them Presbyterians. Even though inaccurate, no one on the left would have hollered then!
Oh...I get it. It's just like Democrats calling conservatives and the Tea Party racists, brownshirts, extreme, Nazis, and astroturf. I guess it only works one way, huh, Numbnuts? Are all liberals as myopic as you or are you really that narrow minded in real life?
Tell me, what religion were the 9/11 hijackers? If they were Muslim, then Bill O'Reilly was correct. It's reality...deal with it.
Whoopi and Joyless – dish it out but cant take it – nothing wrong with what oreilly said – absolute truth – Being the extremeist they are – these two are indeed a sad reality of todays liberals
Well since 9/11 was perpetrated by our own government with the extremists as patsies the whole thing point is moot (regarding O'Reilly's comment). It sure got the ball rolling for our unending war(s) to siphon oil from the Middle East.
Let's be clear here. We were attacked by Muslims in the name of Allah. Until the Muslim copmmunity denounces these phanatics, we were attacked by MUSLIMS! The bulk of the posts here are the same old LIBERAL BS that is destroying this country! Frankly, your lies are getting pretty old. Try and find a new play book to use would ya PLEASE!
In England, they refer to Catholics as terrorists because the good catholics do not stand up against the terrorist activities of the IRA. As a practicing Catholic here in the US, I understand my UK friends words based on what they have gone through – and I am not offended. I also condemn the IRA, and know when my UK friends shorten their reference to just "Catholics", that they only mean the IRA. Bill was doing the same thing. Stop over-reacting!
The View is a a show designed to entertain liberals. It is NOT meant to be an unbiased news talk show like Meet the Press or Larrty King. Look at the cast and how they act. I believe some of it is "acting". Remember how they treated Obama versus McCain prior to the election. When the President (a candidate then) came on, they acted like school girls with a crush on an older student. I can still see Barbara Walters' look of disdain when she was talking with McCain. It was as if they were interviewing a pedophile. Balanced? = no – but you don't have to watch it!! This is America.
You can say "Muslims attacked us on 9/11" just like Iraqis can say "Americans attacked us in 2003"....I didn't attack them, I didn't think we should have, but thats what happeed...does it mean all Americans wanted that to happen? No. But that doesn't make it any less true...Muslims attacked the twin towers on 9/11...not all Muslims, but some...the real travesty here is that Bill actually believes every Muslim is a terrorist...hes a joke, stop paying attention to him...
If you accept a paycheck to host a talk show then you should do just that. The difference of opinion in this case was expected when they invited O'Reilly to be on the show. Thats WHY he was invited. If you are not prepared to hear an answer to a question, then DON'T ask the question. If you don't agree with the opinions of others, then DON'T host a talk show. This was completely unprofessional. If they are that passionate about the world events of this age, the they should host a commentary show instead. Like O'Reilly. And NO, I don't side with O'Reilly's opinion either, but that is no more relevant than Joy or Whoopi disagreeing either. SIT DOWN and EARN YOUR PAYCHECK!
Many people here are using the comments that Bill made about Muslims and trying to create a mirrored analogy to Christians.
Personally, I'm not Christian, but this is what I see....
From my observations, Christians do take A LOT of heat as a whole in this country. Christians are always made fun of in the public arena. Christians are generalized.
I'm not saying that I agree with what bill said, but it wasn't an "F YOU" statement to Muslims.
The the two hosts that walked out, that's ridiculous! They know what Bill is like, they invited him to THEIR show, and they did that? Grow up, learn to be able to debate with another adult maturely. It was pathetic.
Of course O'Reilly knew what he was saying, this is what his show is all about. It would have been better for the two to remain and respond – telling Bill what an insufferable bigot he is. but that is tuff to do and I'm not suprised that someone would loose their temper and walk out. FOX WORLD is built on stoking fear of 'the other', nothing new there. The reason it would be better to stay and make the argument is that Bill controls everything on his show, he never has to sit there and listen while a guest methodically shows his fearmongering for what it is in front of a national audience. Too bad
Why do people have such a hard time with the facts? We were attacked by Muslim fanatics on 9/11 and we are at war with them (their decision not ours) and they are coming for us as we speak, calling it a “event” is sad display of where our country has come to, appeasement went out the window with Europe in the 1930’s, we need to stand up for our country and quit thinking that this will not happen again, do you need a mushroom cloud over a major city in America to get the government to defend our citizens? (This is the number one job they are supposed to do anyway, so, ask yourself, you really feeling safe?)
I would like to these two to discuss human rights with these "peaceful" religions (not to mention women’s rights) and see how that “event” goes, I would guess with their behavior in here in America, a death sentence wouldn’t be out of the question if they were in those countries today. where are those voices to protest that?
(Those that do not heed the lessons of history are bound to repeat them)
Hope Obama Does Just 1 thing Right in his 2+ years as President...STOP THIS GAY INSANITY TO AVOID DESTROYING OUR MILITARY OR CAUSING AN INSURRECTION IN AMERICA.....
HITLER was christian so is it ok to say christians killed jews .By the way muslim didnt killed americans
people we trained killed us
Bill, YOU ARE A TRUE AMERICAN!!!!! What happened to our morals in this country? Muslim extremists attack MY country and then we get ridiculed for referring to them as muslims?? People in this country need to grow up. The two individuals on the show walked out because they can not compete with Bill's intelligence. GOOD JOB BILL. YOU DIDN"T WALK OUT WHEN IT THE KITCHEN GOT HOT............
Is Bill O'Reilly still alive? Is he still allowed to get inside the studios? Any idiots still around listening to him? If he is as american as he claims to be, why doesn't he enlist in army and go to Afganistan and fight the muslims for a day? His rotten views are nothing less than Ahmadinejad's.
Every single one of theose involved in the terror attack were Muslim and were shouting "praise Alluh" as they murdered thousands of innocents. If you call Jihad isolated extremism, you simply are not telling the truth. It is accepted as duty and privilege by millions of Muslims. They kill other Muslims for it. The truth is Muslims perpetrated that heinous event.
Joy and Whoopie are rediculous and so is everyone who can't say these words – Muslims killed innocent Americns on 9/11.
Bill O'Reilly is a button pusher. He makes a fabulous living by pushing buttons. He is very good at it. It is a niche. Bill Maher does it. Ann Coulter does it. Al Franken does it, but less so now that he serves as a Senator in Washington.
O'Reilly's value has gone up after the ladies fell into his trap. More people will tune in to watch his show on Fox News... even people who hate him more for what happened on The View.
"Gotcha?"
Ummm..Its your talk show ladies, you suppose to make him walk off.
There is a lot of misconceptions floating around here about this issue:
"""it is primarily an Islamic Cultural Center that they want to build near Ground Zero, not just a Mosque"""
People, please understand what a mosque IS. It IS an Islamic Cultural Center to a Muslim.
Are we at war with Islam? Have you read your history? Read about the Islamic conquests of north Africa and Europe after the death of Mohammed. The Muslims had managed to invade France before they were finally turned away.
The Crusades – another major misconception – were a series of belated attempts to reconquer formerly held Christian land and to guarantee Christian pilgrims would have safe passage to Jerusalem.
Muslims lost the power struggle during European colonialism and really have not been in a position to make war with the west lately. They are weak in relation to the west now, and that is the only reason they're not trying to expand Islam through war, though some Muslim countries have an economic stake in the west that they are hesitant to risk overtly (Saudi Arabia, for example). Note that I said OVERTLY. Remember that most of the hijackers on 9/11 were Saudis.
Don't be fooled by rhetoric and thoughts of kumbayah. Let history and current events guide you, not warm fuzzies. Regardless of how you think things SHOULD be, the reality is that the world can be a cruel place. Be aware.
Whoopie and joy are the most annoying people on the planet. i would actually watch this show if they weren't on it
Why do people insist on relating 9/11 with Timothy McVie? These are two completely different issues. Timothy McVie may have been a Christian but he did not commit his terror in the name of Jesus. The 9/11 hijackers did their terror in the name of Allah. Christians were very much against his acts of terror, which by the way was an isolated incident, and spoke up against it. The problem most American's have is, this act of terror was specifically done in the name of allah. The other HUGE issue is the absence of any Muslims speaking up against this act of terror done in their religions name! Name one person who stood up against this that was a Muslim. One? You cant, because they haven't. Bill O'Reilly was absolutely right in all that he said. People, like Whoopi, want to be politically correct. She is a joke, really! MOST American's do not want this Mosque built near ground zero. Period. The iman should have seen this and should simple build it elsewhere. He is being intolerant. Nobody is arguing against a mosque, it is simply the location. Bill O'Reilly is simply speaking the truth about these matters and most people, as FOX is the #1 news channel, agree! Whoopi and Joy are two seriously biased individuals who do NOT know how to be tolerant and discuss issues. Typical liberals. Whoopi and Joy definately are Pinheads NOT patriots!
SOME Muslims killed my cousin and a friend on 9-11, along with themselves and a lot of other people.
As far as "the Muslims killed us on 9-11", I'm feeling pretty healthy, so I'm pretty sure *I* wasn't killed. It must have been O'Reilly's brain that died that day.
Then again, I don't watch, read or listen to that pinhead anyway.
But if *I* were a host of the show, they'd have thought it was a Springer episode, save that I'd solidly connect with his jaw. I happen to have some close friends who are Muslim.
krashundburn, let me explain something to you. I'll use small words so you might actually grasp the concepts.
First, an Islamic center CANNOT be a mosque or contain one. Per their religious guidance, any place that is used for things not of a religious nature CANNOT hold a mosque, thinks like, say a swimming pool. It may only contain a prayer room. The room can be quite large, be prayer rooms are by nature private and the Imam can regulate WHO goes into the room and who can speak there, which CANNOT be done in a Mosque.
Second, we're not at war with Islam for one reason, there is no central authority in Islam, save with Shia who follow the Ayatollah and they're a minority.
Third, every other point is the same anti-Islamic rhetoric that has been thoroughly debunked over DECADES.
How would I be able to speak with any authority on this? I've been in uniform for 27+ years. I spent a fair amount of time with Special Operations. I spent nearly 5 years deployed in the Persian Gulf region and lived off post, interacting with Arabs and expats of all faiths on a daily basis. I handled some security matters, hence I had to study their faith AND deal with locals.
I've even been over a number of Arab and Iranian homes for dinner and played with their kids.
Some of the Muslims actually work for our military, giving translation services and other assistance.
There is ZERO information on any "invasion" on our classified networks, which is ANOTHER tired rhetoric. There is zero information about a war with Islam as a whole on those networks.
So, SOMEHOW you seem to think that YOU know more than 10000 intelligence agents and Special Operations personnel who are dealing with the same things on a daily basis.
And yet, here you are making low wages flipping burgers when you could be contracting in intelligence and making good bucks with all of your vast knowledge.
These women are, without a doubt, typcial liberal drama queens who think they are so progressive, but woe unto those who disagree with their ideas! At least veteran Barbara Walters didn't stomp off like a five year old, and shows some dignity.
Goldberg and Behar have a history of demanding their opinions be heard; but, they never want to hear what others have to say. They are entertainers not professional journalists. For the record: I believe that they have a right to build the Islamic Center; however, I think they are very insensative in picking this location. It is disrespectful to all who where killed on 9/11 including innocent Muslims. My wife enjoys watching The View but I find it to be all but worthless.
Bill O'Reily is one of the people at Fox news who has fed the flames of hatred against every Muslim in the world. All these people want us to do is keep our noses out of their business and get out of their countries, where we are subverting their cultures with our loose western values. The struggle of Muslims in America can be compared to the struggle of Blacks in the U.S during the 60's thru 80's which saw the rise of the Black Panther Party. Blacks were getting killed by cops with impunity. The Panthers rose up to defend Blacks against police brutality. I can understand why American Muslims would feel it necessary to join the Islamic struggle. Especially when patriotic Arab Americans
are subject to racial slurs and bullying, even when they are wearing uniforms of the nation's armed forces and putting their lives at risk for ungrateful and bigoted people like Bill O'Reilly.
All attackers on 9/11 were MUSLIMS. Walking off the show is not going to change it. I know there is a talk about "Moderate" Muslims, but When I asked where to buy "Moderate Koran", I get strange looks as there is none. Well then, maybe a "Moderate Mosque", but there is none. It seams to me that all Muslims are listening to the same Koran in same Mosque, as those terrorists did before them.
No matter what I did, I could not find one Muslim who was like us. My best friend is a born Muslim, but self proclaimed atheist, but in the moment when one must choose, he will be a Muslim!
That is a problem!
Bush sent even more americans to die in wars based on his lies and his christian beliefs so I guess that means christians killed us. I hope there are no churches near the homes of the american soldiers who lost their lives making Bush and his buddies richer.
Screw Joy, Whoopi and the horse they rode in on! They don't like anyone who doesn't agree with them. I think ABC, the View and all Media would do well without them and their opionated points of vew. They are so far left I pity them.
I would like to know what American Muslim leader denounced the 9/11 attacks? What Arab, middle eastern, or Indonesian Muslim nation or leader denounced the 9/11 attacks? Anyone? When American Muslim leaders denounce terrorist threats against America or Israel then I will believe the left wing apologists that "muslims" are not the enemy.
@Matt – Have you read any of the Koran? If not, then you should. It preaches a political system, over the top of a "religion", and said religion's only way of "expansion" is world domination. A true muslim, who believes the words of the Qu'ran to be the word of God, and doesn't believe and follow those teachings (or ignores them), isn't a muslim, and if outed, would be actively hunted by others who believe what the Qu'ran says, word for word.
it says that the only belief is Islam, and only those who convert, or subject themselves to second class status as servants to Muslims, will survive. Should read it sometime.
Muslims did bring down the towers.
Hellscream, have you read the ENTIRE Quran? Have you read the hadiths?
I have. It was part of my security analysis for our installation while I was deployed to the Persian Gulf.
Your facts are incorrect, which you would know IF you actually read the entire book.
Also, consider the State of Qatar, a Wahabi Islam state sponsored and built a number of Christian churches, to include a Roman Catholic church. I guess Saudi should have invaded them and killed off their Emir. No invasion, no protest.
Go get a Quran and read it. THEN get the translated hadith, of which there are two primary sets as Sunni and Shia have some differences of opinion on them. Not much unlike the protestants and the Catholics.
Then, scroll up a ways and consider what I said above. I most certainly would know FAR more than you about Islam and Muslims in particular after spending nearly 5 years of deployment to the Persian Gulf region and dealing with them daily.
Learn for yourself, rather than rely on the likes of O'Reilly.
You ask, 'how can we say Muslims KILLED AMERICANS on 9/11"?! Simple....because Muslims did kill Americans on 9/11. It's a fact...Should we say a different race killed americans on 9/11 to make you feel better! Get over it! No one says anything when someone states, "Germans killed the Jews" because it happened...it's a part of history.. and it's true! Just like Muslims boarded planes on 9/11 to kill Americans! It happened...it's a part of our history and it's true!
k n, what was said was "Muslims killed us on 9-11". First NOT ALL Muslims, but a few killed 3000 people, not US which implies all of us.
Second, he then hops over the the Islamic Center and spouts the same, tired, incorrect rhetoric. I explained in my post above the difference between an Islamic Center and a Mosque and WHY they cannot be co-located.
Frankly, the two hosts are idiots anyway and not worthy of notice, along with their cackling hen show. O'Reilly is unable to separate in his mind an individual and a group, a sign of mental illness in a literal sense.
And to be honest, his words along with his fellow morons who speak with such ignorance and claim authority and end up driving a lot of our politics into the toilet have caused me to change parties, after 32 years, from Republican to Democrat as the Republican party has been nothing but divisive and destructive to the nation by following the histrionics of these people.
But guess what? I'm no longer deployed, I'm home and I've retired from the military. So NOW I am able to do and speak against this hogwash!
Before these morons start a civil war.
They should just change the name of the show from The View.. to The Jews... hahahahhahahhahahhahaha
In my opinion Bill O'reillly is a definite pinhead
I'm at a loss how so many of my fellow Americans fail to see the association. A bunch of muslims killed 2,000 Americans in the name of Islam. Now, muslims want to build one of their shrines there. It's not rocket science. If my father murdered your son across the street, and I wanted to put up a memorial of my father across the street from your house......WOULD YOU SEE THE ASSOCIATION THEN? It has been shown that MANY mosque all over the world have taught this extreme form of Islam. Sometimes I think you people online making excuses for them are muslims yourselves.
Well its not like they were Seventh Day Adventists.
Dead people who orphaned their children are down there at that site, never to be found again. They are still dead. It is their resting place. There are Islamic mosques in the United States that have been investigated time and time again for inciting violence/terrorism in this country. A mosque with no clear legal restrictions on teaching hatred and terrorism is going nearby to this cemetary. Trust me, if the survivors could have moved their loved ones away from those buildings that dark day before they died, and there was CHOICE in the matter, no doubt they would have. But there is no choice for them on the location. There is a choice on the location for the Muslims. They can and should go somewhere else.
Actually, it was men who killed us on 9/11. Each one of those terrorists was a mother****ing man. Men shouldn't be allowed near Ground Zero.
Because Muslim's were driving the planes, plotted the takeovers, funded the operation. Don't you remember seeing all those Muslim's rejoicing in the streets when the towers went down? Were those all extremists?
James, I bet there ARE muslims who respond to news articles!!!!!!! Holy crap. You are a complete tool.
@Matt – How can so many atheists demean Christians by saying "Christians caused this war," or "Christians killed these people." Same difference.
On the note of the story, I think it was deplorable for those two to walk off stage. If they got so upset because someone had a different opinion than they do, they ought not to have a "talk show." If you truly believe in something, stand up for it, don't walk away from the discussion.
When is saying the truth offensive. If it were christians, or Jews, or budists that were responsible for 9-11, would that be offensive to say? You don't demean a religion by reporting the truth.
The atrocity here is that Fox News has a playground full of fascist hypocrites like Bill O'Reilly who are extremist in their own right. I think walking out on the opportunity to confront his hypocrisy and political terrorism was a mistake.
generalization my ass. talk about living in your own world! you'd probably let someone slit your throat if they were a different race or religion just so you could show how "diverse" you are!
it's a victory mosque and a slap in the face plain and simple. they want to conquer YOU. and they'll do it if you let them. your political correctness and self-righteousness will spell your doom.
if i were a half-witted COMEDIAN yenta like Whoopi and Joy i sure as hell wouldn't stick around Bill O-Reilly either and have him verbally embarrass me. they're not on his level. nor are the CNN viewers.
Muslims killed us on 9/11 is perfectly correct. Every one of the 9-11 attackers was a Muslim. Let me ask you this question – Who carried out 9-11 attacks?
a. Jews; b Christians; c Hindus, d Muslims and answer is clearly d – Muslims. Why can't we speak the truth? It's stupid for the moderate Muslims to try to create a Mosque (or Islamic Center) Let's just reverse the scenario. Let's say 19 Christians attack and kill thousands of people in Iran (or any other Muslim country) and then Moderate Christians want to create a church nearby? Won't they be stupid to try that? Can you imagine what would happen to them?
Well, Islamic terrorists did attack the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and caused the crash of Flight 93. Pehaps saying that Muslims attacked us on 9/11 is a little bit of a hypherbole, but it is essentially the truth. I still remember the scenes of Muslins from the Middle East after the attack. A lot of happy people buring the American flag and shouting death to America. Not exactly showing any signs of aversion to the violence.
Of course, there are bad people from every land, religious or not. Stll, it was not wholly inaccurate to say that Muslims attacked us on 9/11. As it is not inaccurate to say that Muslim separatist continue to attack civlilians in the southern Philippines in their qust to create a Pan Pacific Islamic state.
O'Reiley and all who think like him, are idiots. Muslims did not 'kill us on 9/11.' Al Qaeda did. They are not Muslims. They are political hacks (kind of like O'Reilley and FOX) who claimthat theyarejustified in their crimes because of their chosen religion. Just like so-called 'Christians' who engage in horrible acts. Anyone whois too stupid to understand this really doesn't deserve to exist.
How can you say that whites enslaved blacks? Hello it happened it was awful but it happened. Sensitivity goes both ways. How about pride in your country, how about taking care of your own. I get threat America is a melting pot but i would like to see Americans standing up for Americans again.
I don't agree how he framed his reply, but if you look at it why is it just about every Terrorists happen to be muslim? That said I can understand why he made his point!
Dangerous how? Taking away your rights? Nope.. he hasn't taken away a single one. Running up a debt? The debt was at record levels with two ongoing wars and a tanking economy when he took office, and unlike the former president he is investing in this country with the money he spends.. not investing in rebuilding countries on the other side of the world after investing in destroying them in the first place.
Heatlhcare is not the Final Solution and City Year is not the Hitler Youth.. get over it.
love your simple answer....! i'm not on either side but i for sure think that Obama is in over his head! That I agree with O'Reilly on...!!
Yeah, like the previous resident of the White House wasn't a total moron. I'm not a great Obama fan, but at least he can put sentences together and pronounce the world "nuclear" as opposed to Dubya's "nucular". Idiot.
One of the worst things the Republican did was to put George W. Bush in the White House. I bet you thought he was your idol. Getting tired of people tearing this president up, I don't agree with everything he does but I can see that he is trying.
Honestly I don't know what to say to someone that doesn't consider O'Reilly dangerous but considers Obama dangerous. You must be a) from the South b) have an IQ less than 70, and c) base your decisions on nothing more than race.
Just because you don't agree with someone doesn't mean they are the fool. Bill O'Reilly is an idiot because he spews untrue information and people with low IQ's, like yourself, listen to him. Obama is trying to clean up the trash that Bush left in the White House. My opinion is that YOU SUCK!
how do you think he's made all his money? he reacts – doesn't think. sometimes he gets it right and sometimes he blabs about nonsense.
THANK YOU CHRIS !!!!
The problem is, Islam is not a tolerant or welcoming religion at all. For centuries Muslims have declined to interact with or assimilate themselves into other cultures. They also seem unwilling to bend or compromise in any way – even on issues that have little to do with their doctrine.
You dont see ordinary christians laughing and dancing in the streets to show support of the Westboro Baptist Church protesters. But on 9-11, there WERE ORDINARY muslims laughing and dancing in the streets while WTC jumpers fell to their deaths. Big Difference.
I would think that if you were going to have someone on your show, you'd at least watch some of their show first. He's been a critic of the Islamic center long before he was even on The View. He's always made remarks that offend people. I would think the cast would know this beforehand. Therefore, they should have to suck it up when he makes a comment they don't like. The whole point of the show is to discuss different viewpoints; not walk off the stage when someone has a different opinion.
agreed Chris - see my post above.
This is why I no longer affiliate with any organized religion.
No Chris. That is not what he said. listen more, type less.
First of all, the Westboro Baptist Church idiots aren't killing people. Secondly, there have been many Christians that have rallied to block these jerks at soldier funerals. Third, they don’t get support from the Christian mainstream. Finally, they have been ostracized by their local community.
I agree. But, so would anyone else. Obama won the presidency of the perfect storm.
Yes, but can he do it without a teleprompter?
Right... At least Dubya could pronounce Corpsman, not "Corpse-Man". Idiot.
Timothy McVeigh was a Christian terrorist who killed hundreds of innocent peoplle in the Kansas City bombing of the Federal Building. So why doesn't Mr O'Reilly protest against Christian churches being built near the Federal Building? Because he's a xenophobic racist, that's why.
Timothy McVeigh was a Christian terrorist who killed hundreds of innocent people in the Kansas City bombing of the Federal Building. So why doesn't Mr O'Reilly protest against Christian churches being built near the Federal Building? Because he's a xenophobic racist, that's why.
This is just a ploy to increase ratings. I do not watch because none of their "views" match up with the Word of God...They all need the One and Only Savior then their "views" would change.
Oklahoma City bombing. How could you possibly mess that one up?
Jeffy, I can't say I have heard of a church being built near the old Oklahoma City Federal Building.
No. because Christian churches are not newsworthy right now.
The two that walked off have no tolerence for apposeing opinions at all , no way ,no how never .
Barbara Walters is the only true professional on "the View".
For as long as she's been around, doing interviews, she's always listened to what her guest had to say, whether she agreed with the subject or not.
She's ALWAYS treated her guests with respect. She's NEVER walked out on a guest, or made rude or insulting comments on camera.
That's why she's an executive producer, and probably made the call to bring him on in the first place.
He never claimed to be Christian he turned the priest away when he came to give him the last rights. Also it was in Oklahoma City and actually the bomb damaged tons of buildings around it including churches. There is a big difference Jesus never said to kill children in fact he said even to lead one away from the true way that it would be better for that person never to be born and cast into the ocean with a weight on them. The Koran on the other hand clearly says its ok its even demanded they kill. Most "Muslims" aren't Muslims cause they don't even follow any of the rules given. There book is so legalistic that they themselves flea the countries that actually follow it as fully as they can. Its a evil book written by a pedophile of course it would breed evil in those who really follow it.
I would just like to bring up the fact that "extremists" will probably take every opportunity available to them to make a Mosque at Ground Zero a target. Think about that for a moment. The Mosque is defaced or worse, someone has lashed out and it is all over the news media right? Then, the Muslim world can blast back about how horrible the US is. It will be never ending. From that perspective alone, why would they want a Mosque there in the first place. It is a horrible idea. It has nothing to do with freedom of religion. It just isn't a good idea.
Learn how to spell. You come on here to write something you think is intelligent and make a fool of yourself by not even knowing how to spell "opposing".
St. Joseph's Old Cathedral is literally across the street. The church was there prior to the bombing, however, they did erect a memorial of Jesus weeping that sits catty-corner to the memorial. I have to agree with Jefrey; a Christian extremist, whose motive was based on the Government's treatment of his sect, killed hundreds of people and an obviously Christian monument was erected literally across the street (as opposed to a few blocks away).
You are too funny – by clicking on this link and then posting a comment, you are adding to the 'popularity' of articles about The View. God not only gave you views, He gave you a brain – use it.
NONE of their views match the word of God. NONE. None of them. Not one. Ahhhhhh, just a little over the top there, maybe?
Stop doing your scholarly research on google and pick up a text book or talk to an islamic community leader.
"Just think it through a minute and leave the knee jerk reaction behind..." Asking that of the far Right is like asking a brick to perform brain surgery! It's so much easier to just put in your mind "Muslim = evil = Mosque." What make me sick is these are the people who accuse other people of not be patriotic enough! If Jefferson could come back and see this, he wouldn't be able to stop throwing up...
Great minds think alike I guess, I hear the same line so often that I think someone needs to start making shirts that say that...
"O'Reilly is a Tool(Box)"
That would be the same Dubya who couldn't pronounce the word "nuclear," thought that "misunderestimated" was a real word, bemoaned the fact that gynecologists couldn't practice "their love" (I'm still trying to figure that one out), and once uttered the immortal words, "Is our children learning?" Face it: Bush said more stupid things in one week than Barack Obama's said in 47 years.
Baba Wawa is and has been a sell out for going on 20 years. When once she was a hard nosed reporter now she inteviews boy bands, wanna be movie starts and co-hosts a morning housewife show.
Whoopi and Joy, what a couple of mental dwarfs. Muslims did kill thousands on 9/11. The quran authorized it and the arab street rejoiced in it. The Bible rebukes the actions of McVey and Christians prayed for the fallen of OKC. What a moronic analogy.
So you are the expert on the Bible and the Koran? Funny, plenty of other misguided Bible experts throughout history have found plenty of support for murdering and terrorizing non-believers in the pages of the book. I would dare say many more than have quoted the Koran as the source of their misguided behavior.
The Muslims who attacked America did it for religious reasons Mcvey Attacked the Building in OK for revenge for what happened in Waco, not because he was a Christian fanatic.
Muslim didn't do the job. It was Bush and CIA connections. They made it appear like it was some plot by Muslims.
You stated:
"Whoopi and Joy, what a couple of mental dwarfs. Muslims did kill thousands on 9/11. The quran authorized it and the arab street rejoiced in it. The Bible rebukes the actions of McVey and Christians prayed for the fallen of OKC. What a moronic analogy."
The Qur'an ALSO rebukes the actions of the terrorists and Muslims also prayed for the fallen of the WTC, the field in PA AND the Pentagon. But you wouldn't know that, particularly if you're a fan of Faux Noise (a.k.a. Fox Not-necessarily-the-news). Also, if you read the Qur'an for yourself (not cherry-picked verses posted onto Islamophobic websites), you'd know that Islam condemns the killing of innocent people.
Wow, such misinformed hate. This is really sad. I need to stop reading this crap.
You obviously haven't read the Koran, or understand that if you aren't Muslim – you're nothing in their minds. read history, and look what they have done over the years – they are locusts. If they were kind, peaceful people, they would build their mosque somewhere else.
Uh, Christians aren't bombing anyone, nor do they kill those who don't believe what they do, like Muslims do. Why all the Muslim loving American/Judeo-Christian Religeon haters out there all of a sudden? You are fulfilling prophesy, do you know this?
if christian extremists flew a plane into buildings in mecca, then tried to build a YMCA a few blocks away (assuming for a second that saudia arabia had the same freedom of religion "policy"), as a believer, i would consider that pretty damn insensitive and downright lame. i' mean, c'mon, a few blocks from the twin towers?
What planet are you from? Christians bomb/shoot murder people on a daily basis. Christian American soldiers have killed women/children/babies in Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq. Hundreds of thousands of people were killed in the Crusades by devout Christians. A Christian American President targeted and killed MILLIONS of innocent civilians with nuclear weapons in WW2. American settlers all but wiped out the native American Indian population when they came to this country.
Thats millions of Americans killing many more millions of other people, yet you condemn all of Islam because of the actions of a few people?
Oh, btw, I was raised Baptist.
I suppose those abortion clinics blew up all by themselves and those doctors shot themselves?
@Wake up:
Oh right, those Predator drones are sending care packages, not cruise missiles, huh? I'm not saying we're not justified, just don't bury your head in the sand and say Christians aren't bombing anyone.
You need to follow the "advice" of your screen name....
"Christians aren't bombing anyone".
Oh....REALLY? Tune into Rachel Maddow's "The Assassination of Dr. Tiller" (MSNBC Oct. 25 - check your local listings). It's about a the murder of a doctor who performed abortions along with other care given to women. It's not the Muslims bombing abortion clinics. Are you also rationalizing the murder of doctors, their employees and patients in those clinics?
And don't say, "The Bible rebukes....!", because the Qur'an also rebukes the killing of innocent people as well!!
Absolutely~! That is the point..As simple as it gets...It's the location...
NO ONE is trying to stop freedom of religion.. These two women are complete and total liberals. They irritate me, in their inability to actually 'think' abut what this really is about..
THAT'S AWESOME!!!! lol They might like the YMCA idea tho.... men are for pleasure and women are for breeding! That would be like a dream come true to have a YMCA.
Look if you’re a Muslim living in the United States then you’re not a true Muslim so stop pretending to be one! We (Americans) are the infidel along with all the other western civilized countries so how can you possibly live in our country if you are 100% Muslim? I was in Iraq and know what a true Muslim looks and acts like.
Give me a break. I thank you for your service, but I know far more U.S. servicemembers who had a better impression of muslims in general after coming out of iraq/afghanistan than they did going in. They are people like every other normal person in the world.
I am tired of the stupid "infidel this blah blah muslims" rant. Islam can, and has, coexisted with non-muslims over its past. Muhummad coexisted in Medina with Jews, Christians, and Sabians. He governed them using SECULAR (not in today's sense) law, he did not apply Islamic law. So please, do some research before you bicker.
No, you need to do research my friend. Islam was spread by the sword. Islam is a cultural way of life, it was absolutely necessary for the society that is middle eastern. Think about it, only in the middle east are the people expected to be Muslim without any consideration of other religions. If you were to even consider another religion you could be executed. The bible is not even allowed in most Muslim counties. The middle east is the most INTOLERANT area on our planet, yet politically correct people want to defend the Muslims to look tolerant. What a bunch of intellectually dense people you are. When Muslims start to speak up against their religions issues will there be change and acceptance. Name ONE muslim who has openly spoke out against the extremist who wage terror in THEIR religions name? ONE? You cant can you! Why?
Um, hate to tell you, but he did rule OVER them. Those that didn't convert to Islam had the choice of dying, or becoming second-class servants.
The Qu'ran specifically states this. Why do you think the Qu'ran and the traditions of Muhammad are a political system first, religion second? Why do you think a "holy" text subjugates women the way it does? Has laws for handling everything specific, and to not follow those laws is basically anti-Islam?
I'm guessing you don't know your history much, nor read any of the Qu'ran at all. Those who say Islam is "peaceful" is nothing but going against what their religion says, or, as the Qu'ran also says, "being peaceful until a time where we/they are stronger".
Check it out for yourself.
Amen Larry, these people are doing what they are taught from the Koran. They are not extremists but doing what their religion tells them to do. So people need to quit comparing them to most other religions, that do not teach to kill those that are not of their religion.
Larry,
It's obvious where you get your 'news' and info. There have been many Arabs / Muslims who have spoken out against the extremists that attacked the USA on 9-11. They have spoken out on wbsites, in print, and on the airwaves. However, they were not featured on Fox news so that demographic knows nothing about it. That demographic is the critical mass of Islamaphobia because they are fed krap all day, every day to keep it going.
Did you know that in the early part of this year, a number of regular fox contributors did comment on the 'ground zero cultral center' and they said they were ok with it? It was only after segments of the right ratcheted up the rhetoric that all the Right's talking heads jumped on the band wagon.
They lie to you all day long and you buy into it.
@Larry:
Executed...really? Where do you get your facts – Faux News?
I lived openly Christian in the Arab Middle East for 4 years. No threats of execution. It's people like you that continue to spread vitriolic misinformation that keeps this country in a persistent state of ignorant idiocy.
@Racer X
Wow, such misinformed hate. This is really sad. I need to stop reading this crap.
Misinformed? Obviously you've never read the Qu'ran that's not had the true words of "Muhammed" erased. Has nothing to do with hate, has everything to do with spreading their "religion" via every means possible.
Tell me where in the New Testament it says Christians are OK to go around killing people to spread their religion?
Frankly, if I were there, I'd be looking VERY upset and he'd eventually ask what is wrong.
I'd complain that I wished someone told me that I was dead before, I most certainly am embarrassed to find out 9 years later!
Oh, you mean a FEW Muslims killed a bunch of Americans, to include my cousin. Ahhh, NOW I understand. You're an idiot who can't separate individuals from groups. You know, there are mental health professionals who can help you with that...
I think you can guess how well his interview would go then.
But, frankly, I don't watch the cackling hens show.
Bill O'Reilly is an extremist. Religious nuts make him nervous.
Has anyone ever asked how many Muslims were killed in the attacks?
'bout time somebody walked out on him. what a jerk.
I am amazed that any media outlet would invite Mr. O'Reilly to participate in any way in something that purports to be a talk show or discussion format kind of show. O'Reilly has proven time and again that he in incapable of civil discourse. He is rude, pedantic, and belligerent. He interrupts constantly, and he has NEVER allowed a fact to ruin his arguments. The fact that the hosts of The View even attempted to appear at the same time as O'Reilly speaks volumes to their patience (or the problems in their contracts). Please, send O'Reilly back to Faux News, where he can babble to himself, misrepresent to his heart's content, and no one will be offended because no one knows any better.
Why is it when someone tells the truth are they asked to leave or for people think they should leave. It must have to do with their views. Whopi is a liberal and can't stand other people views so she walks out. maybe she ought to quit the show.
Opinions and mouths. Everyone has them. The only rule should be is when to tell both to zip it. I don't support a mosque being built so close to a memorial with such history attached but I wont go up to my muslim friends and throw it in their face I don't aprove. The comment that was made was unacceptable as a christian though and if he is in fact a christian he knows he was wrong. God, or which ever deity you believe in, loves all his creations, bar none.
I wonder if peoples opinion would be different if they wanted to build a mosque on the actual 9/11 site.
This guys an idiot to begin with! He says these things to get attention and unfortunately he did!
So typical of liberals: walk away when you can't handle a differing opinion other than your own. Censorship in the form of "political correctness" is a tried and true liberal trait.
I dont always agree with Bill O'Reilly but he was an invited guest on this show. His opinions are not a secret so why are they so offended. I dont agree with what he said either but these two idiots expect to be treated as professionals. Are they only going to interview people they agree with now. Their behavior was appaling and if I was their boss I would immediately fire them.
WE SHOULD NOT BE SUPRISED THAT HER AND WHOOPI WALKED OUT ON HIM. BECAUSE THEY THINK THEY ARE RIGHT AND THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS WRONG IF THEY DONT SUPPORT OBAMA.WELL I AM SORRY THEY NEED TO HAVE A REALITY CHECK EVERYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO THEIR OPINION/.
Yes, of course those were Muslims that hijacked those planes and caused them to crash and kill thousands of Americans. O'Reilly was very correct in what he said. And ultimately it wasn't any religion that cause those lunatics to do what they did on 09/11, but their own selves that are responsible. There is no afterlife. Religion is fake.
Though poorly worded, O'Reilly's remark was factually correct. It makes no sense to build a mosque at Ground Zero. What did the developer really think was going to happen? More per capita than any other religious group, there are extremists within Islam who mean to harm Americans disproportionately. You can't just ignore that mosques in other parts of our country have been found to be breeding grounds of extremist hatred for America. Why put one on the same grounds where nearly 3000 Americans were slaughtered?
To the last question: Both.
O'Reilly (a.k.a. "Mr. No Spin", who could keep a helicopter off the ground with either his spin OR the hot air he produces) was out of line with his comment, and you can't say that and not know it will be taken that way, you can't hold that position on the community center and not be demeaning muslims.
However, that doesn't justfy angrily walking off or blowing up like that.
About time someone stood up against a religion that worships a leader who had 11-13 wives as young as 6 yrs old who consummated the marriage at 9, who was involved in over 60 battles, and who slaughtered a whole village who tried to surrender. In other words a religious cult based on violence.
O'PinheadReilly would have been more correct if he had stated that friends of ex-president Bush from Saudi Arabia attacked America on 9/11. Friends from the same clan for whom ex-president Bush arranged to have safely flown out of America shortly after the attack. I ain't say'n .... I'm just say'n.
O'Reilly's opinion is just as valid as any on The View. It is a FACT that Muslims are responsible for 9/11. Pointing it out isn't offensive. If I am a Muslim who does not practice as Muhammed and the Koran advocate, then I am labeled a moderate. However, those who adhere to the principles as noted are labeled extremists. Are they? Are they not literalists, as Christians who believe the Bible are labeled? This whole argument is ridiculous, though. Anyone who has ever watched The View would know that there would be some "incident" when Bill O'Reilly appears on the show. It's TV, people, that stuff gets ratings and is watched by people who obviously don't have anything productive to do at the time.
I wish all of hosts of the view would have left. They are just as ridiculous and unreasonable as o'reilly. I cant believe that anyone watches either of their shows. They are both awful and incredibly one-sided.
if I were Joy, I would have walked off when he told me to "be quiet, you might learn something". He is an arrogant jerk who doesn't deserve all this attention.
Seriously? Reality check. They invited a known rebel rouser to be a guest on their show. If they did not expect some o controversy, then shame on them.
Recommend the show should be renamed to My View instead of The View. Evidently others view are not considered. Lack of professionalism. By walking out...they showed Bill's "view" won. This is their job to debate "views". They did not and should be replaced. I will not watch "My View". Congrats to Barbara to show how a professional handles other views.
Thank you Bill O'Reilly for speaking on my behalf, and I'm sure a lot of americans. The only reason this group of people want to build this thing is to strir up the american people again. They can't get away with another 911, so this is their next step. They know this will get to us and cause all this animosity between the american people. The so called celebs like Joy Behar try to push this crap and it's just causing more hatred. Push it somewhere else Joy.....don't want to hear your reasons.....it's just plain WRONG! They were muslims and that's fact as Bill stated, no getting around it.
I agree O'Reilly should have left. I don't really care for Whoopi and Joy is OK, but they were right. I can't believe they would ask that nutball hatemonger to be on their show to begin with.
Duh...it sure wasn't members of any protestant religon flying those airplanes on 9/11. And you may call them extremists of the muslim world, but at times it sure seems as if the extremists are in the majority. If they weren't in the majority don't you think moderate muslims would exert pressure and reign the extremists in or eliminate them?
O'Reilly is a pinhead, but the actions of Ms. Goldberg and Ms. Behar was downright unprofessional and shameful. They should have made him clarify his statement. Instead, they preferred to stage a stunt to pretend they are better than him. In the end they came off as uneducated, unprofessional, and incompetent talk show hostesses.
The terrorists claimed to be Muslims. But that does not make all Muslims terrorists.
This is Logic 101 stuff. Too bad the two ladies could not reason with their brains rather than their tongues. It is my hope that every guest on The View walks off the set if Whoopi or Joy open their mouths.
Conservatives get so touchy when they're wrong. Defending someone like Bill O'Reilly just goes to show that conservatives will stand together no matter how extreme a fellow conservative is. Bill O'Reilly is so far right that he may be in the next zip code. The damage he has done to the delicate minds of the legion of lemmings who watch him is akin to what the Taliban have done to extremist Muslims.Just because a few extremist Muslims attacked a building in Manhattan, mainstream Muslims shouldn't be able to worship on the island? So everytime an extremist Christian does something stupid, we shouldn't allow any churches to build within a few miles of that site...fairs fair!
Within a lot of these comments is a lot of hatred and name calling. There is good and bad in this world and no religion has the right to say their's is right and everyone else is wrong. Look how often this is done with sects within Christianity alsone.
It seems to me that some in this discussion need to learn some history before making certain comments and also some research.
First of all, the Muslim center or mosque or whatever you want to call it is NOT being built at ground zero. It has always been planned to be blocks away from it.
Someone asked when did Christans every send a plane into a building in the name of religion. Guess Cristians here may have forgotten the Crusades when thousands of non-Christians were murdered in the name of Christianity. Then there are those who kill doctors and nurses at clinics because their God has told them to be the saviors of the unborn. God says, thou shall not kill NOT thou shall not kill unless it is someone you don't agree with.
Another point was given about Jews. The way it was written was negative. It makes me wonder if the writer is at all aware that the Jewish Torrah is the Christian Old Testament. I also have to ask myself if he is aware Jesus was Jewish. That is one of things I love to say from a bumper sticker I saw: My boss is a Jewish carpenter!
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This was nothing more than a couple of WHINY extreme left libs throwing a tantrum. They did this for ratings. it backfired on them. Barbara Walters even pointed out they acted childish for doing it. It showed that big-mouthed Goldberg can't shut someone up so she just runs away. Oreilly was right in pointing out that wthere is a problem in the muslim community. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are muslims. Moderate muslims need to stand up against these extremists.
Is this show not called the VIEW. I guess it depends on whether your 'view' differs with theirs. Can anyone here say....FASCISM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You know you win a argument with a liberal thinker when they namecall or walk off their own show. Good job Bill.....four on one and you still got your point across. Mrs. Behar should not be so hypocritical; she has made numerous remarks about Christians.
Bill O'Reilly did NOTHING WRONG. I watched the entire show. Joy and Whoopi were out of line. With the exception of Elisabeth they are all DEMOCRATS including ABC and have phony clapping when they ridicule a republican or if a republican has something to say about Obama they don't like they make fun of that person or they go to a commercial. They are a JOKE and so is ABC for allowing it. They are RUDE and OBNOXIOUS TO REPUBLICANS they have on the show. And they NEVER let Elisabeth finish a statement when it comes to politics. GROW UP JOY AND WHOOPI, remember we made you famous and rich. If you were poor you wouldn't like what is happening with the government now either. And the truth of the matter is MUSLIMS MURDERED OVER 3000K PEOPLE ON 911... and that is what Bill O'Reilly said.... Even Barbara Walters said her co-hosts were wrong for walking off – if you can't take the heat GET OUT OF THE FIRE JOY AND WHOOPI.... You two should go back to comedy full-time because you both are a JOKE. Instead of having a serious conversation with any Republican you two make jokes. Is that how you brought your kids up, I fell sorry for them. And everything with Joy, Whoopi and Sherry for that matter is color, color, color. GROW UP!
Mark 16:16 "He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned."
There are many passages that can be construed to support the killing of non believers.
What type of successful "crusade" to spread a religion could be based around killing nonbelievers? Hint: I just gave you the answer.
Wise of you to specify the New Testament, because there's an awful lot of killing in God's name in the Old Testament, and you know it. Don't even try to pretend that the Old Testament has no bearing on Christianity; why else would Bible thumpers be so up in arms over gay issues?
Different strains, same cancer.
Go get em.
Tomoyo Could it be that being up in arms has something to do with forcing a square peg into a round hole? Sorry pal but it is objectionable to the majority of people? To answer your next question yes reproduction is normal buggery is not.
Tomoyo Could it be that being up in arms has something to do with forcing a square peg into a round hole? Sorry pal but it is objectionable to the majority of people? To answer your next question yes reproduction is normal back door entry is not. Animals don't know better so sometimes they try but the recipient always says no and so should you. Just a hint on proper human behavior.
Steeve-o There is absolutely nothing in the Christian Bible that condones killing of another human being my friend. When it was done it was wrong and anyone doing it claiming to be a true follower of Christ was a sinner or a fraud. It’s that simple there is no support for killing in the name Jesus Christ and he surrendered himself to a cross as proof. Can anyone argue that?
@irina
Apparently you forgot the old testament. last I checked, that is a part of the christian Bible (goes and gets my KJV and double checks) Yup.. sure seems to be to me. So um... what Christian bible were you refering to again? cause us good Baptists.... well.. we read the whole thing, Old and New.
@Irina:
Suggest you read the Old Testament again. Plenty of violence and killing there. Why do we make exceptions there and say it was wrong, but not for the Koran?
Dragon & Matt, I am talking about the New Testament for most Christians it’s the last word. There are passages in the Old Testament that Jesus himself spoke against. Please if you know of anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus condones killing of people post it here. Christianity is based on Jesus Christ and in its essence is 100% about loving God and all people regardless of race or religion. Unlike Islam as most people know it to be.
Dragon & Matt, I am talking about the New Testament for most Christians it’s the last word. There are passages in the Old Testament that Jesus himself spoke against. Please if you know of anywhere in the New Testament where Jesus condones killing of people post it here. Unlike Islam as most people know it to be.
Because the Old Testament is a record of the past – the Quran stipulates these guiding principles as the basis for Islamic lives today.
Time to live in the present....the old testament is HISTORY literally. No Christians live that way today, with violence and killing as their mantra........no comparison to be made to today's radical Muslims..........not even close.
There are stories of killing in both the Old and New Testament. That does not mean that they are INSTRUCTIONS to kill. It is more of a tale of what happens when you don't follow God.
Both Moses and Jesus said not to kill. The Muslims accept both.
Of course, there are members of all faiths who believe that there are instructions to kill in scripture, not just the 9/11 suicides. Extremism is the belief that you can or should kill. In fact, all manner of treating people rudely is a sin. O'Reilly and the hosts both sinned against one another. Two wrongs just make twice as much error.
This is a tired argument but it still fits:
Three words: Westboro. Baptist. Church.
You'll probably say "well, they aren't 'real' Christians." Saying a man is no true scotsman doesn't makes him any less a scotsman. Those folks killing doctors who perform abortions? Not real Christians either?
Every religion has its extremists. To say otherwise is ignorant.
@Hellscream -
You said, "The Qu'ran specifically states this. Why do you think the Qu'ran and the traditions of Muhammad are a political system first, religion second? Why do you think a "holy" text subjugates women the way it does? Has laws for handling everything specific, and to not follow those laws is basically anti-Islam?"
I suggest you read Leviticus, Numbers... pretty much the entirety of the bible. Subjugation of women? Genesis 3:16. Ephesians 5:23.
You'll want to zip up your pants. Your ignorance is showing.
Medarus – No one has ever said that Christians are perfect only that Christianity is. If a Christian individual were extreme to Christianity he / she would sacrifice themselves on the other hand (as I understand it) a Muslim’s instructions are to kill an infidel. There is no common thread they are two diametrically opposed religions. Killing humans in any form including abortion, war … etc is not Christian and if done it’s up to the individual to repent not the doctrine which say’s no. I’m no expert but since being a child that is what we were taught to believe. It is one reason why I hold the essence of Christianity unshakably close to my heart belief in a supreme creator is another.
i think alot of people are equating "christian extremist" with "violent christian" and using the KKK or McVeigh as examples of the former. Those two are violent, and I hesitate to add the word christian to describe them. Maybe they are/were, though their actions said otherwise. The only true christian extremist was Jesus Christ. He followed the will of God to the most extreme degree – he willingly hung on a cross because it was God's will, not his. Maybe the Apostle Paul could be added there, too.
But the point is this: God is sovereign over EVERYTHING, and that includes the events of 9-11 as well as the ridiculous TV show called The View. For whatever reason, horrible tragedies are still part of his plan.
Amen and Amen.
Uh, didn't we depose the tyrant who oppressed them for more than 25 years?
First the liberals blast the US for supporting dictatorships in the Mideast and Latin America and when we finally remove one they're still complaining. Ya just can't win.
That's what happens when you hire stand-up-comedians to act as serious journalists.
I applaud Joy and Whoopi for having the courage of their convictions. Bill O'Reilly is a trouble-maker. The reason he didn't use the word "extremists" is because he is one...and he's extremely stupid in the bargain. But dumb like a fox, because he knew exactly what he was doing. And if Elizabeth Hasselbeck agrees with him, as he says she does, then she's an idiot, too. But we already knew that.
WELL SAID!
Yeah, as a career choice that involves directly observing everyone and everything around you, stand up comedians are nothing like journalists.
this is why people like jon stewart and stephen colbert can't be taken seriously.
idiot.
Please cite just one reputable muslim that has been outspoken against these extremists. Don't cite your neighbor.
Well said!!
'If a man commits adultery with another man's wife–with the wife of his neighbor–both the adulterer and the adulteress must be put to death. Leviticus 20:10
Under the law of Moses the penalty was death by stoning. (Deuteronomy 22:21 ff, John 8:4,5).
True, but at least O'Reilly has moved way up the ladder while Behar and Goldberg are "parasites"...at best!!
True again.Maybe they should have asker Rick Sanchez on the show, I heard he was looking for some work.
Maybe that's why Dublin was such a pleasant place to reside in the mid 80s. Killing infidels is not what Islam is about at all. It's the interpretation of the verses that are being skewed or being taken literally...just as the Holy Bible, you can't take everything literally...as they are a collection of stories from 2000 years ago.
Why can't common sense be more....common?
Please site one Christian "founding forefather" who was against slavery or the slaughter of native Americans.
Alleged patriot:
You generally requested someone (in general) to site a reputable Muslim (capital "M", btw) who speaks out against extremists. You added a caveat to not cite one's neighbor. Ok....
Would it be fair to cite entire Islamic organizations, like CAIR, MPAC, ISNA, Islam on Capitol Hill, etc? Did you know that on 9/11, Yasser Arafat called and not only offered his condolences, but CONDEMNED the terrorist attacks?! Probably not. You were probably tuned into a Faux Noise-type network who wouldn't have reported actual news like that....
Jon,
Get over it, God exist in the same world as Santa Claus,Tooth Fairy and the Easter Bunny. Everyone pulls them out of the closet or attic when the time is right but like some people you have not grown up enough to realize that the Old Saint Nic will save your soul just as fast as God will.
Mr. or Ms Get over it – there is no 100% proof that either of us are right. In fact there is probably more proof that you are. But that’s exactly why it’s called FAITH. If we knew for certain there would be nothing for God to measure and you would not be inclined to be yourself which must be difficult to live with. However, at the end of the day; if I am wrong it’s for a lifetime if you are wrong it’s for eternity. So you just run along and do whatever it is that makes you happy and I will not call you stupid like you seem to love doing to people of Christian faith. Meanwhile I vote no for a muslim center unless there is some compelling reason to support killing of non muslims.
Irina:
What did you mean by "compelling reason for killing non muslims"? The Qur'an teaches AGAINST the killing of innocent people, no mention of their faith (or lack thereof).
So, I hope you're not using that as your rhyme & reason for "voting" against the Islamic community center in Lower Manhattan. The leaders of the community center opposition did a hell of a job in deceiving so many people into thinking that their opinion/vote against this community center would decide on whether it would be there or not.
Irina, et al, you have the right to oppose the community center, even though the center would/will be a benefit to the community there. But do formulate a reason for doing so. So far, you've only given excuses for doing do....
DeucePerez – I wish it was not so but how about this from the Quran :
1.[8.12] When your Lord revealed to the angels: I am with you, therefore make firm those who believe. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve. Therefore strike off their heads and strike off every fingertip of them.
1.[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the unbelievers.
1.[5.33] The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His apostle and strive to make mischief in the land is only this, that they should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides or they should be imprisoned; this shall be as a disgrace for them in this world, and in the hereafter they shall have a grievous chastisement,
I am lost in where (as you said) it's against killing of innocent people.
Irina – - -
If you are not a believer, you're not innocent! I think. What reasonable person with even the slightest bit of decency and common human respect can believe in such hateful dribble? And acting on it is even worse.
Hey, since it seems you folks are familiar with Muslim stuff, tell me: I've heard more than once that muslim men get rewarded with ... things...after they are dead. How about their women?
I am not greatly impressed with Christians either.
Oh, one more thing: Where are the Gods either of you believe in when they are needed by their faithful?