The latest failed "Bachelor" couple, Jake Pavelka and Vienna Girardi, returned to the show that made them (in)famous last night, and if you thought cooler heads prevailed after a public break-up, think again. Here's a play-by-play of all the camera-ready drama:
Host Chris Harrison asked Jake what went wrong, mentioning that he had dinner with the couple a few weeks ago. Jake says he was "out of town" when everything happened, but admitted that things with Vienna had been going downhill for some time.
Chris then brings out Vienna, who sits next to Jake. After talking again about that dinner, Chris asks Vienna what went wrong.
Vienna says the relationship started changing a month after they started dating. Once she said that, the sparring went to a level not seen since last weekend's Brock Lesnar-Shane Carwin fight.
Vienna says there was no emotion with Jake, who accused her of selling him out to a tabloid. Jake accused Vienna of seeing other men, while Vienna alleged that Jake made disparaging remarks about her dog. Surprisingly, neither one blamed the other for the Gulf oil disaster.
Vienna calls Jake a "fake liar" and requests that he take a "poly-o-graph" test, which must be a machine made out of string cheese. Chris tries to restore order by going to commercial.
The bell rings for round two, with Chris asking why the couple didn't amicably split earlier. Vienna says she tried to do so twice, but Jake says the attempts were nothing more than Vienna sulking and wanting attention. Vienna then accused Jake of not acknowledging her during his time on "Dancing with the Stars," while Jake said Vienna only danced on the show's finale so she could get camera time.
Asked about the future, Vienna said that she's "doing marketing" in Los Angeles, despite not being a fan of the city.
The two then debate over who broke up with whom, with Vienna saying she has a witness to her breaking up with Jake, but declined to elaborate. Jake then expresses displeasure with Vienna constantly interrupting him - even Chris asks Vienna to let Jake speak, but Vienna appears to ignore the request.
Vienna says Jake will only find love with a woman who wants to be controlled, while Jake says he doesn't need a selfish woman. The two then debate about Vienna's dog again, which Chris mercifully asks to end.
Chris asks Vienna if there's anything she should apologize to Jake for. Vienna apologizes for "going about it the way she did", but that Jake would have done the same thing. Jake tries to respond, but Vienna interrupts. Jake sternly tells her to stifle it, which causes Vienna to leave the stage in tears.
Jake explains to Chris that what just happened was an example of one of their arguments, adding Vienna was the first relationship where he had to raise his voice. Jake said he felt bad about it, but that something was wrong with the relationship.
What did you think of last night's reunion? Do you think it's real?
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yes and will u to make up.u guys make a great couple and i dont want it to go south over a stupid fight
I think Vienna and Jake are a lovely couple with huge potential. I just see baby games, and if both people put in just a little effort, it could be sorted and they can have a wonderful future together.
Jake to "show" actions of love as well as truly loving Vienna, and Vienna to inwardly respect as well as outwardly "show" respect.
That was the worst recap I have ever read. Vienna kept interrupting because Jake kept lying throughout the entire interview and she called him on one lie. About the cheating accusation, after she explained what really happened, especially about the gay guy, he didn't know what to say, he was stumped. And if anyone believes that Vienna was the first girl he had to raise his voice to, well I have some land in the Louisiana swamp that I would like to sell you. First of all, we all saw him yell at Chelsie on DWTS, and ordered her to do what he wanted, and she was suppose to be teaching him!! What a control freak. He's a liar, he's abusive, and he's controlling, not to mention narcissistic. Oh, by the way, in the original taping of the interview, he was very volatile and made a fist as he screamed to her to shut up about 3 times in a row, as told by eyewitnesses who were present during the original taping. Why do you think that story was going around in the first place? ABC tried to say it wasn't true, but it was. I wonder how many women he may have hit in the past, he is surely capable of it from what I've seen. He has an abusive personality. I've seen it many times before in my profession.
So funny! jake finconstant ally gets angry about Viennas constant interrupting, name calling and character bashing and asks her to "PLEASE stop interupting me!" and he's the bad guy! LOL if this was a taste of what living with her was like is it any wonder why he was'nt feeling all warm and loving towards her. He even said as much. how much is abuse is a guy supposed to take before he says enough? And for everyone that says there is something wrong with him, he seemed so fake... lets see you sit in the hot seat in front of a an audience while being verbally attacked. How well wold you take it? I think he descided to "grin and bear it" untill he had all he could stand and he could'nt stand no more. And at that he said please.... I wonder what Mel Gibson would have done... lol
I absolutely can't understand the thinking of people who actually find a spoiled nasty childlike Vienna sympathetic. If he was in a rage I don't blame him, she never shut up!
Her daddy spoiled her for the real world and she is no bargain!
He was a fool and made a poor choice, when all the girls don't like one girl, he should have been smart enough to run in the opposite direction. Vienna reminds me of the woman who drowned her little boys and then addressed the world begging for the return of the boys with fake sobs. Vienna's face never moved, her lips stayed pouty and perfect along with the rest of her unmoving features. That big boo hoo is exactly the way a two year old acts when not getting it's way.
As to Jake being gay? Nice touch, if he isn't playing kissy with The V he "must be gay." How else can we put him down, lets dig down and dirty, lets help her emasculate him, why not?
She disgusts me along with all the people who find her victimized.
I NEEDED A XANAX AND A NAP AFTER WATCHING THIS
During the show, the other women tried to warn Jake about what Vienna was like and he wouldn't listen. Even her father said she should be treated like a Princess. Welcome to the real world Vienna, if all you wanted was to be taken care of – start looking for an 80-year old Sugar Daddy.
They both need to take responsibilty for there own parts. Stop the judgments. /name calling and pointing the finger. Vienna is very immature and a drama queen. She is incapable of listening it seems and behind all there hurts she can only feel her own pain. Vienna needs therapy to work all this out in her head and like i said they both need to look at themselves. Nobody can make you do anything without your consent. Judgements are the birth of a never-ending argument. Come on looking for love on TV spotlight is not real. Its easy to be in love when you wine and dine and being on an island etc. Then you get back to reality and obviously reality was to much real world.
Really?! Who cares? This doesn't deserve main page attention.
What do I think..? Well, I think Jake picked Vienna at the end because he wanted some fame, he knew what everybody said about her. I think he is an arrogant loser, otherwise, how can you explain that a good looking man is still single..? yeah, he is arrogant.. well, if Jake's account are true, and this is the first time he had to raised the voice to a woman, then Vienna is right, he need a woman that says "Yes Dear, whatever you say dear.." kind of woman, because she wasn't that kind of woman, then that's why he had to yell at her... you see, he couldn't undermined her, henceforth all the problems.... I think he is an arrogant idiot looking for fame...
I think the girls in the house were right. Vienna is a controlling, manipulative B and I don't blame Jake if he wasn't romantically interested in her after putting up with her s–t.
OK IF BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE ARE SOOOO SPECIAL THEN WHY ARE THEY ON TV LOOKING FOR LOVE..... BECAUSE THEY ARE LOSERS!!!!!!!!!! WOW, WHEN THE WINE STOPS LIFE STARTS AND THEN WE GET TO HEAR ABOUT THEIR PROBLEMS...... WHO FRICKEN CARES!!!!!!!!!!!!! BRING BACK RE-RUNS OF FAMILY TIES OR SOMETHING.
I find it amazing how mad some women get when a man doesn't act like he has to do everything she wants, when she wants it, the way she wants it, and then tells him how he's doing it wrong as he does it. And in front of everyone. No wonder men are proposing less and less these days.
JEFF; DID YOU EVEN SEE THE SHOW WITH SHOW??? You seem to have it backwards. }:=p Typical guy, turns everything around to suit them!!! JEFF AND JAKE SITTING IN A TREE........YOU LOVE YOU JAKE , AND I LOVE ME! Perfect, 2 Peas in a Pod!!!
"HOW DARE SHE UNDERMINE ME!" "BE QUIET, I'M TALKING!" "WHAT MAN IN AMERICA WOULD WANT TO BE WITH A WOMAN WHO UNDERMINES HIM!" HOW DARE SHE UNDERMINE MY JUDGMENT BY SUGGESTING WHERE THEY COULD MOVE THE BEDROOM FURNITURE AROUND TO AFTER I MEASURED IT!" WHAT A STUPID IDIOT (which is what it came down to) ASKING ME FOR DIRECTIONS, THEN PROGRAMING THEM INTO THE GPS!" Pitching it into the back seat in anger. (Damned temper tantrum but abusive non the less.) What a SELF-CENTERED, EGOTISTICAL, MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE, CONCEITED,HIGH AND MIGHTIER THEN EVERYONE ELSE, S.O.B.!" (OMG, she was engaged to my ex-husband LOL! but that's how I know all about that type of guy.) As far as the lack of intimacy goes I think he's either has a performance problem, is gay or he just used her for publicity by choosing her on The Bachelor because she was the most controversial girl on the show and only performed long enough to keep her with him a little longer until he got his "CAREER" going. He was going to dump her anyways. I like how at the end of the Bachelor he said he wouldn't ask her to marry him if he wasn't 200% sure he was in love with her and now he's saying that he's 100% sure he didn't love her. ADD FLAKY TO HIS LIST OF BAD TRAITS TOO!!!
Jake is a kook! I'd warn my daughter against abusive guys like him. Glad Vienna is free of that garbage.
Jakes an ass, I feel sorry for Vienna. I married a guy like this – the party's over once he knows he's won your heart. So I know what she's talking about and I also know the overwhelming frustration, heartbreak, and disbelief that she feels. Vienna wants Jake to feel the same pain she does – but he can’t because there is something wrong with him. Because Vienna’s young and impulsive (I think this is what attracted Jake in the first place) she made some poor choices and retaliated. In the end she put her big girl panties on and apologized ... kind of. And through it all, Jake was smug and unemotional. I mean he just pledged undying love for this woman and didn't even make an attempt to comfort her as she was breaking down. What a !@#$%^& jerk.
I was never a Vienna fan, but I thought Jake was a nice guy. I did a total flip-flop after last night. What a conceited, arrogant jerk he is. It's not like she is any different than she was all along. The way he spoke to her, whether she was interrupting or not, was ridiculous. And I lost all respect for Chris Harrison. It's time for a new, unbiased host. He looks like a dork from the fifties anyway. I hope Jake disappears into the sunset and we never hear from or of him again. Jillian had him pegged right all along.
just thinking..maybe all this was planned???????
Jake, I hope your 15 minutes are coming to an end- you are pathetic.
Where do I start? I have been a bachelor/bachelorette fan from its onset. During Jake's season, he was warned by every other woman, what type of person Vienna was (spoiled,selfish,rude,cut-throat). He chose to ignore the warnings and gave her the final rose. The joke was on him, wasn't it? However, I have since changed my mind about Jake, and I say even Vienna is too good for him. Jake, you could not hide your true self last night. Anyone can see that you are a self-centered, heartless, egotistical, control freak with severe anger issues. Get therapy sunshine, or you will live out the rest of your days as a "Bachelor".
it's hard to be warm and kind towards someone who gets under your skin. if jake seemed cold and aloof, it's likely because she's constantly interrupting and unknowningly irritating him. even the nicest person can appear to become an ass after having to put up with someone unbearable for so long. then again, vienna had a point.. jake may have liked the side of her that was a child and so undermined her
I think Chris Harrison is the real villain. He is so smarmy and condescending. I hate how he makes himself sound like he's above it all when he's the one profiting the most from this trash.
It was fake. Jake seemed to be the one favored by the interviewer. Vienna only there as drama. Jake on a lot of shows lately, no longer a pilot. He hasn't slept with Vienna. Probably gay.
Always liked Jake... Vienna not at all – ,my oh my how my opinions have changed. Last night told the real story in body language. Jake = Jerk Vienna = honestly aware and intune. Good Luck, Vienna – you deserve so much better, and GOOD FOR YOU to recoginized and get the hell out before marrying that controlling self-centered maniac.
to expand upon what Steven K wrote....the GPS situation. So she questioned that he knew where a building was they were going to. She reached for the GPS unit to verify the information, he gets mad and throws it? Come on! This man is in his mid-30s....he's got personality disorder written all over him. Had Vienna kept her mouth closed a bit more and just let him talk....I would imagine the psychiatrists would be calling him to schedule his first appointment. He is a narcissistic wackjob. Jake if you are reading this, go to therapy so one day if you do get married and have children, they don't have to deal with your narcissist self. Vienna is a young immature woman who is spoiled, she will do fine later in life and a man will accept her spoiledness and her character flaws. She's a cute girl and she can actually feel something unlike her ex fiance.
Both Vienna & Jake were lying last night. Vienna should not have gone to the rag mags to air the problems. Gee how much money did she make for those interviews?
I found it interesting that for all the professing Vienna did about hating LA, didn't she find a job there...
Vienna can go on the audition rounds all she wants...her acting ain't that good...crocodile tears is all that I saw coming from her.
She tanned good and got rid of ugly freckles. She looks pretty.
It is time to come clean for this show. Analysis of Jake from the show where he was one of the competing bachelors for the Bachlorette, recall that he made a phone call to the Bachlorette after being dumped and then insisted on meeting with her to reveal secrets he knew about another bachelor. Jake's demeanor is very effeminate and he has inappropriate emotional responses to many situations. Recall how terrified he was of bungy jumping on his date with Vienna. On both shows he was a whiner and portrayed himself as this "sweet" fellow. Recall the home visit with his mother who was outspoken with her opinion. On Dancing With the Stars" he was sarcastic and volatile towards his training dancing partner during practices. When he was dumped from Dancing WTS he shed a well of tears after his rejection. In conclusion Jake has displayed some serious symptoms of a personality disorder and including volatile behavior. He needs help psychologically. If the network does keep him as a contestant for the Bachelor Pad series look out for more scandals.
He whined all the way through Dancing with the Stars, too.
Give it 6-12 months. That Realty TV loser Vienna will be posing for Playboy and some people may change their tune when it comes to D Lister Vienna.
He's 34 and she's 23. Enough said.
Stick to real news. I'll get my trash at TMZ, RadarOnline, and PerezHilton.com
Typical, what is it. You really are an American. You have small man disease. This is the only way you can get around your wife controling you. LOL Good try. Would say grow up, well you know small man. With a small mind.
Well now I know why Jake didnt want Ali to come back. She was such a very nice lady he didnt want to hurt her. So he picked a woman who has already cheated and proved to be a liar. What a way to get out of marrage and get fame.
100% VIENNA.. JAKE IS A JERK AND SHOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED ON TV AGAIN!
This was clearly a toxic relationship and thankfully it ended before anyone was emotionally damaged. I was engaged to a man like Jake and trust me, behind closed doors he was 10 times worse than what we saw on tv. We went through 4 counselors and he would use the "undermine" words and say, "see she keeps defending herself". Jake is truly narcissitic and Vienna needs some serious counseling before she is ready for a true relationship. It was painful to watch but they need to be happy it is over.
I watched "The Bachelor" and knew from the time he picked her that it wouldn't last. He picked the least classy girl in the bunch, and surprise to her...he turned out to want the limelight as much as he did. And he got it, which is what the problem was. I think it's time she heads back to the swamp and slithers into oblivion.
She's a horseface spoiled brat & he's a control freak. End of story. They deserve each other.
Jake is a fake and Vanessa has been used by Jake, but she was wise to him.
Sonia, Who the hell is Vannesa..? You are so dumb...
Well from what I saw Jake is nothing but a BULLY! He wanted his 15 minutes of fame and got it but was not satisfied and then decided on national TV to bully a woman. What a MAN!?!?!? He's not a patch on a man's ASS! Well, we all got to see the REAL Jake so thank you Jake....now you can take your club and go back to your CAVE from whence you came!
I enjoy the Bachelor and Bachelorette purely for the light entertainment of it. Vienna was entertainment, but that was it. He was never really God's gift to Women, but seemed AOK. The two together – you knew the physical attraction would wear down, "daddy's" little girl would show her true "do it my way or else I will boo hoo" side and what man would fine a whiney grown woman exciting enough to live with the rest of his life. If she kept undermining him, and I can see that happening, that would be a big turnoff. When you are turned off, things get nasty. One is rejected, one no longer cares, obviously, little problems become bigger issues. Spoiled brat plus man in control = bad combo! Neither should ever get married, much less reproduce! Amen. But Vienna asked for this drama, and now she plays the games she plays with men, including daddy! Boo Hoo, whoa is poor me. Sorry Vienna, you played the game and you lost!
I don't understand why people are criticizing the country, or the show, or cnn for a new low. afterall, we watch this! this is how they get ratings! hello!
What a bunch of cry babies these two are. I didn't even watch the show Bachelor, and only watched last night for kicks!!! They both need to grow up. The "display" last night, was just ridiculous.
This argument was merely a way to gain publicity for this awful show! How stupid to have shows on television that allows a person to date 20 or so iindividuals for a short amount of time to find the love of their life!
I believe Vienna wholeheartedly. I really did want the relationship to work between jake and Vienna but after watching last night episode I am so glad that Vienna had enough sense to leave Jake. Jake is very controlling and crazy. He wants a doormat for a wife or girlfriend. I am so disappointed in Jake and Chris Harrison for being so mean to Vienna. Vienna is tellin the truth about Jake. He is very phony and fake. He puts on for the camera and other people but when he is behind close doors only Vienna saw how controlling and pathethic he really can be. I lived with a man like Jake for over fifteen years and he almost had my self esteem on the ground. Men like Jake make other people think he is a prince charming but behind all of that fakiness is the real Jake and that came out last night. Jake is mentially abusive and he is probably physically abusive also or he is getting to that point. I know most of you have taken this lightly and accused Vienna of talking too much but another grown person should never ever yell or scream at his or her wife, fiance' or signicant other in a rude or disrepectful tone. Jake is a very dangerous person and he is well worth watching. I am really saddened by all of this. Jake has some serious mental health issues.
Bet if this was out before Dancing With The Stars, he wouldn't have been dancing! I don't doubt we'll see
him behind bars charged with assult!!
This was SO ugly a meeting of these two people that they should have spared us all and not aired it! It was RIDICULOUS!!
There is no taking sides in this one. I'm sure they are both liars about one thing or another. TV has changed them both and not for the better. I hope if they're on TV that they fail and that they go off and crawl under the closet rock. They are both immature and obnoxious. Who needs to hear anymore from either one of them!
I know a lot of people are saying "new low" or whatever for abc, cnn, etc. BUT that was seriously entertaining. I've been getting so bored with this season's bachelorette, but this fight was so funny from beginning to end. we can't help but watch whether you like it or not. i say lets do this for ALL the failed bachelor/bachelorette couples. wooo!
I guess I am one of the few that thought last night made Jake look better, that was the true Vienna. Just that last part, where she wouldn't let him finish...I wouldn't wish that on any guy! And that part about him feeling undermined...she didn't even acknowledge that, which most people know that men need to know they are respected and trusted. And facts, who knows what the facts are...at this point I think we all just knew this was coming.
They're both a couple of flakes...too bad it didn't work out as they deserve each other.
Look on the brightside folks! At least they are not going to get married and have kids. Imagine that. Kids! That would be alot more messed up.
Prime example of why older men should not date younger girls. Jake should not have expected Vienna to act any differently than she did about the whole relationship and breakup. SHE IS 23. She is suppose to be immature!
Jake, leave the young girls alone and let them hang out with friends and guys their own age so they can mature in a timely manner. If you want a mature relationship without all the drama, find a woman your own age. Although there still may be some drama attached, if won't be quite as disturbing!!!
I truly hope people realize that just because this show is unscripted doesn't mean it's not show business. This isn't real. It never was. The people on these shows aren't looking for "love." They're looking for attention. Have you noticed that the people on here get more and more outrageous. Have you noticed that none of them are well-matched. Alleged 'relationships" are done for show. A truly loving relationship doesn't have entertainment value. I am afraid, however, that too many people mistake reality shows for reality.
I didn't watch the show last season and know next to nothing about these two people, but from what I saw last night (only stopped flipping my channels out of curiosity) it's Vienna who seems a bit psychotic here. I mean, just coming from my own experiences, if I interrupted my husband like she did Jake OR vice/versa, there's no way our marriage would have lasted. There seems to be a complete lack of communication skills between those two. Jake repeatedly asked her to let him talk, and she repeatedly ignored his request. What a *****!! Complete lack of respect on her part. And then to go crying, "He's so mean to me!" when he finally gave her a firm tone? Please. That woman will never find a husband if she thinks she's going to get a kiss and undying attention every minute of every day.
Here's some advise for the both of them: Marry ugly people. If Jake marries only a semi-attractive woman, she won't feel the need to be doted on daily and very likely won't be the selfish, self-centered person that Vienna has grown in to. If Vienna marries a semi-attractive (or ugly) man, she'll be put on a pedestal and get everything she wants! LOL
Just for a goof, I compared the number of replies on here vs. those/that of other articles on the home page. Three times as many as Obama commenting on his meeting with Netanyahu. Just a few shy of this one on an article regarding the Gulf Oil Disaster. I realize that by commenting here I am tacking on another to the number so call me a hypocrite but man, I find it disheartening that this is what people give a s*** about.
Just for a goof, I compared the number of replies on here vs. those/that of other articles on the home page. Three times as many as on the article of Obama commenting on his meeting with Netanyahu. Just a few shy of an article regarding the Gulf Oil Disaster. I realize that by commenting here I am tacking on another to the number so call me a hypocrite but man, I find it disheartening that this is what people give a s*** about.
OMG Jake is such a jerk! All non european whites should love this show! Best after the rose show ever!
Ithink she should take her horse face back home she cried last night how she wanted to go back home and jake didn't well now there's nothing holding you back go home nobody wants to look at that horse face anymore
Is nobody worried about Vienna's dog???
A hooter girl wants to be on TV.. everybody knows she is a B%%%% , except Jake now he know s what kind of girl she is. He should take back Ali..
All staged by ABC. Fake Jake, fake proposal, staged breakup, fake Jessie, now fake Frank. It's all about entertainment and selling story to the tabloid. All worked. Kudos ABC. Cracks me up with Jake's crooked smile all night and all his other pictures, he smiles so hard you can see his every wrinkle. That guy should take some acting lessons if he's serious about being an actor.
They both showed serious flaws last night: immaturity, anger, and a lack of common courtesy. If they can't get along in the "honeymoon" period, they never had a chance at real life, did they? I watch the show as a guilty pleasure, but I am always hopeful the couples can make it from "reality-tv" to real life.
I ate a grilled cheese sandwich last night.
It was tasty!
The only sad part about this is that both are back on the market.
Jake is a flake. Clearly he was The Bachelor for a reason and will remain one for a very long time.
You could tell the guy has serious anger issues.
I thought he lied throughout the whole interview. Vienna can do so much better. Actually a monkey could do better than Jake.
It was really sad to watch it yesterday. Even if Vienna was faking it, Jake wasn't! His looks, his sarcasm! It was horrible! I liked him before although my boyfriend always said he was a GAY, fake guy, PERFECT on paper but empty. Honestly I totally agree with him now. He was so cold to her and even when she said: " I am sorry" he had that half smile in his face.
And in the end..............
ABC executives are laughing all the way to the bank......Jake and Vienna, whether you like them or not, are making money because of their parts in this ridiculous show.......as are the countless other bachelors and bachelorettes. We will continue to watch this show.....and complain about how ridiculous, scripted, un-real, fake it all is......We will continue to watch in hopes that maybe, just maybe, someone will actually have a successful outcome-- nawwwww it's just entertainment. Personally - I like it for the travel - helps me decide where I'd like to go if I ever win the lottery. Cheers!!!
Honestly, I've always liked Vienna and couldn't figure out why people had a problem with her. I liked Jake too, and seriously wanted them both to make it. It was like a Cinderella story to me. Last night was a HUGE dose of reality. Jake was clearly not into Vienna and Vienna was clearly immature in area of relationships. Just because a woman's feelings are hurt or she cries does not mean that she is a drama queen. For Jake to say, "You disgust me," leads me to believe that he never loved her and that this was all a game to him. Vienna's emotion proves how vested she was in this relationship. Please tell me how using a GPS or assisting with the moving around of furniture is emasculating or disrespectful. Didn't Jake say the same thing to the lady who was his partner on DWTS even though his rhythmless self was pretending to dance? Anyways... I think they both are at fault and that neither one is innocent. I feel for Vienna though.
"Poly-O-Graph" – w0oT! There's your sign.
Since when is getting angry a crime. Jake is being "villainized" because he got angry. Give me a break. How many of you haven't gotten angry over a simple traffic situation, or when a clerk screws up your soy latte? I got mad at Vienna too and wanted her to shut up. And what was with, "I had to go to the tabloids before you did." She was just trying to justify her actions and money making scheme. Yes, Jake has his issues. The measuring the bedroom thing was a little anal retentive, but he's a man of details. He's a pilot for crying out loud. He didn't get there without paying attention to the smallest of details. He should have just moved the furniture to prove her wrong. Now, after all that's happened since the proposal, I don't believe Jake went on the show for true love. He was looking for fame and he had to select the most logical one who would join his fly-by-night attempt. He even told America that we would just have to accept his choice and trust his decision (leading us to believe it would be controversial). Vienna was the one most likely to be his cohort in this endeavor. As far as her tears, she cried plenty of them during the Bachelor show. She never was calm or accepting when the other girls in the house confronted her behavior. She just doesn't like being told, "No" or "You're wrong." They weren't tears of losing at true love. They never had it in the first place. What we saw last night was what the girls TRIED to tell Jake about. But, because of his convoluted reasons for going on the show he HAD to chose the "hot" one that could possibly secure him a place in the spot light. Now, with the blow out, he has to live with the consequences of gossip, accusations, false judgments etc... about their relationship. Vienna's daddy can't buy her a new car to fix this collision. Maybe they should try bungee-jumping off another bridge to find "true love" once more.
Mad Too, I completely agree with you 100%
Something is seriously wrong with Jake. The way he treated Vienna was so disrespectful. He was so cold and uncaring. Yes, she has some issues also, but come on what is wrong with him?
Carole please. How could Jake, even if he wanted to support big mouth Vienna? She wouldn't let him get a word in during the whole show as she kept interrupting him. Vienna is another perfect example of the you women of today who are spoiled little princesses who when they don't get their way resort to not letting anyone speak, cry like babies and then walk out blaming everyone but themselves. Just a reminder, Vienna took all the money of a bank account from her first husband while he was in Iraq and left him and then had her boobs done – GREAT CHARACTER RIGHT!!!!
I think that everyone who watched this past season knew all along that Jake needed a woman who would stroke his ego and coddle his emotions. Vienna is NOT that kind of woman. Jake should have chosen Tenley for that. Vienna is the kind of woman that guys like me would choose because she's more about "play" than "emotion".
I think this was reality at it's worst. I did however come away with a very bad impression of Jake. He did seem as though he used her to gain Hollywood fame. Not even a week after choosing her, he was on dancing with the stars. He never gave the relationship a chance to blossom. He seemed like a true jerk and very controlling as she said. I did believe Vienna, and I thnk her pain was real. He would have taken it to the tabloids just as she siad. He is a Jerk in the making. An up and coming Tome Cruise.
I thought that ABC (Chris Harrison) was going a little too far to protect their "man" and the franchise. The whole charade of the Bachelor / Bachelorette being reality series has taken quite a few hits, and the Jake / Vienna break-up was just the latest revelation that the producers have themselves a scripted show designed to look real.
Ali's heartbreaking escape from The Bachelor, followed closely by the announcement that she's the new Bachelorette, now with the revealed spoilers (I won't share here), this is all scripted theater, and Disney needed to get a handle on it or risk the franchise forever (currently canceled or not).
Personally, I believe Vienna. He's trying to elicit a career change, and that takes time – and time can take away from relationships. He wouldn't be the first male DWTS contestant to leave his previous life behind.
Two different personality types. Big age gap. Throw in the lure of fame and money. Recipe for disaster.
Jakes hot looking but cheesy, and not sincere. He is clearly a control freak who thinks he should be worshipped.
Vienna is at least open and honest but too young and insecure for an adult committed relationship.
She needs to live out her single party life before attempting to get married and Jake needs to ride out his 15 minutes of fame alone and then find some boring girl that he can have kids with and control.
Wait...you mean 2 people who meet on a fake dating show realized they are not compatible?
Say it ain't so.
Isn't this the same girl that left her husband, emptied their joint bank account while he was serving our Country overseas so she could get her BOOBS done ??? Yeah, I can see why all you team Vienna tards chose her side over Jakes. Jake could be all that is written about but this phony gold digging hussy is just as bad.
Both told bits of truth smothered in a whole bunch of lies. Both came off as spoiled, used to getting his/her own way, and extremely selfish...which explains why both are still single. I doubt either will find a spouse perfect enough for him/her. Both will probably be in multiple relationships, and if either of them marry, s/he will probably land in divorce court quickly. If either is wise (which is highly doubtful at this point), both will zip their lips and vanish into obscurity. They both need to spend more time doing volunteer work, community service...ANYTHING that will help them put others first for a change. Vienna may be too immature to realize this, but Jake should've known better: relationships are HARD WORK. TRUE love is when you put another's well being and needs above your own; it involves SACRIFICE and COMPROMISE...and I hate to disappoint you both, Vienna and Jake...compromise and perfection rarely walk hand-in-hand. NOBODY is perfect, and you both clearly showed that during this fiasco of an interview.
Jake is a CHEESEBALL. That rediculous fake smile, are you kidding me? Who in their right mind would date this guy?
WHAT A TERRIFIC SCRIPT. HOW PHONY CAN THIS BE. I AM SURE THE SPONSORS OF THIS SOAP OPERA IN ENJOYING EVERY MINUTE OF THIS BS. FOR ANYBODY TO BELIEVE THIS HAS GOT TO BE GULLIABLE.
I think that Vienna is young and yes, probably was spoiled. But I believe that he hurt her deep inside. I have been there and had a boyfriend who was controlling. He would explode if it wasn't his way. Throwing things... oh yeah... When he said that he never raised his voiced in a relationship except this one... Its one too many buddy! Im glad that we really saw what he is all about. Good luck to the next girl who will fall for him. I say girl cause a woman would never fall for this guy who is clearly in love with himself!!!! Take care Vienna.
Jake hasn't proven he's a "hound dog". In fact, there is remarkably little evidence that he has any interest in women at all. He has, on the other hand, proven that he is a misogynistic sociopath. Vienna came off as completely credible. Her story not only made sense, but she backed it up with evidence that Jake had no answer to. Jake just lied and tried to control the story with eye-rolls and put-downs. I think he is genuinely dangerous. At least the next victim has been given plenty of warning.
jake is clearly a narcissist...he will be a difficult person for any woman to be able to have a relationship with. she will have to be a doormat in order for it to "work." vienna....she seemed to be more rational out of the two but she was too emotional, had she been a bit more controlled, more people would be on her side. the constant interruptions by her...she should have watched that as well. unfortunately she fell into the stereotypical female and how we handle anger! had she pulled it together, his narcissism would have been even more crystal clear. he managed to let some of it hang out...good luck to any woman that ends up with that guy! being in a relationship with a narcissist is a lonely place!
Guessing you've never been on a date in your life :)
Vienna was caught by TMZ cameras filming her in her local salon. She said she's looking forward to all the coming attention from last night's fiasco. She apparently didn't know there were cameras around. She acted like a complete moron and I'm sure he wishes he would have taken the other girls advice to drop Vienna. If a ton of people were telling me she's no good, I would have probably believed them. Now he's without. Why are ridculuous reality stars getting so much air time? They all suck.
Vienna may have bratty/needy tendencies, but there is something really off with Jake. He came off as a control freak with a lot of anger issues right under the surface.
Hilarious! best thing I've seen on TV. maybe because it was just the most honest & raw emotion thing.
While the constant interruptions were annoying and would probably drive me to "the brink" in a relationship, I think (and always thought) Jake was not sincere. I love that he plans to pursue a career in acting...wait....uh.....isn't that what he has been doing all along?
Both of them are full of it.
Whoooooooooooo cares. They both deserve each other and they should go away already. Too much of nothing. She is crossed-eyed, he has no personality and neither of them will be BIG. Enough coverage on thesed two jerks already.
I think it's clear to me now why Jake is single. She may be EVERYTHING he claims she is(although I doubt it)...but that's no excuse for his patronizing, snide, borderline-abusive manner when speaking to her. My wife and I both were fully on Jake's side on this one until this interview. His true colours were made very apparent.
Even if she is trash, that doesn't mean she deserves to be treated as such. Real gentlemen, and ladies for that matter, know this fact and don't stoop to the "lowest common denominator" excuse.
That was kind of my point...real women don't allow themselves to be treated disrespectfully. I'm not on either side. They are both immature and trashy. What happened to "it just didn't work out" and leaving it at that? I can't stand that everybody has gotten so comfortable airing their dirty laundry on national television.
They're both idiots. The whole show is totally unrealistic. Who in their right mind would even want to be with a guy who gets to make out with every other woman one the show in order to decide which of you he wants???...and why is it that the guy ALWAYS picks the trashiest HO and expects to turn her into a respectable woman... it doesn't happen.
Hmmm... more very interesting comments since my post of several hours ago. An additional observation from the posts that I find very interesting... namely the "defense" of Vienna for her incessant "interrupting" of Jake. How can anyone defend THAT! Perhaps the most obviously objective observation of last night's episode of Jake & Vienna – the one thing that stood out head and shoulders above all else – was Vienna's interruptions of Jake, and sometimes Chris! With regard to that... she was totally out of control! She was way more out of control than Jake ever got! Hey... I agree with many of the faults of Jake about which many have written – he's no angel or fault free in this matter – not by any means, but how could he not have become upset at the incredible number of times he was interrupted by Vienna? I'm about as "easy going", "laid-back", and "non-confrontational" as you can get... BUT I think I would have eventually reacted just like Jake did to her interruptions. If he had not reacted that way... many would have berated him for "letting her walk all over him"! From my limited perspective and knowledge of those two people... I have no idea if Jake is gay or not and don't care, but my best guess is that he is not. I do feel that he desperately wants an "acting" career or something in "entertainment"... and that was a primary motivation for wanting to be on the Bachelorette – Bachelor programs. Jake is not the kind of guy I would choose to "hang out" with... and the same goes for Chris! What was / is Vienna's motivation for being on the program.... maybe it is a dream of the "fairy tale" romantic relationship that she thought could come out of the program, but anyone who has ever seen these programs or who would research t hem even a "little" would clearly see that such a dream is indeed a "pipe dream".
When are people going to get smart and realize that all these reality stars are self-centered, eco-driven idiots. The shows are venues for those who can't make headlines any other way. Worse, we treat them like real stars and give them a foroum for their undesirable personality traits and behaviors.
As you can see... alot of high maintenance girlies watch the show. Which is why so many are on here excusing V's behavior. Unfortunately, with the crap that we brainwash ourselves with in our society, it's not all that surprising.
I haven't read so many stupid responses from people that are truly unintelligent in quite some time. Keep up the entertainment!
(On a side note, of course these couples hardly last. The entire premise of the show is finding true love in a completely fake / artificial manner. It favors those that are good at lying and playing the other person).
She is immature and spoiled as was mentioned over and over in the Bachelor show and he is full of himself. A guy who went from being Mister honesty for Jillian to Mr. "I am the Bachelor" I am a gift to women....ewewwwww...both need to go get a life. Enough already.
Vienna is a lying, conniving waste of a woman. Everyone that actaully believes she's telling the truth is delusional. Maybe, just maybe, she really is the embodiment of satan, just as she proved to be last night. Don't get me wrong though, I hope they both fall off the face of the Earth, I just hope her hole is a little deeper.
Jake and Vienna,
Drama!!!!!!!!! It is funny to see how many people have commented over this whole thing – this is exactly what both of them want!!!!!!!! Jake has proven he is a hound dog and loves the attention and Vienna is a spoilled little girl that want to have everything her way. I think they deserve each other after what both of them did to the other women on the show.
God! How can Americans be so incredibly stupid?? It should be a law that everyone has to take a "Gaydar" class in high school. Jesus!
I can't wait for Jake to come out. I know he has a body of death and I will give him a massage / foot rub and have dinner ready for him when he gets home. That is how you treat a man in this country. Not how woman of today in this country treat men. And they wonder why I have so many married men I go out with!!!! Treat your men right!!!!
I find this whole thing just ridiculas.
To begin with Vienna is a spoiled little brat that for the first time in her life, she was told "no"
It was all so obvious, when all she did was interrupt Jake everytime he opened his mouth. Then he finally got so tired of her interupting that he told her to stop and that was when her lip start to quiver and she bursted out in tears. She reminded me of a 2 year old child. It was really funny.
As for Jake, I am sure he has his defects and his faults, but if I had to live with a whiny, spoiled little child like that, I think I would have been the same way. We didn't get to hear Jake's side because Vienna didn't let him speak, but if yesterday was an example of how she behaved with him through out thier relationship, then I think I would have been the same way.
Bottom line, they are both idiots, but Vienna, really was trash.
Hmmmmmm, I wonder why Florida didn't want her back?
Makes you question her character.
This is why those Disney princess movies are dangerous. This woman is a prime example of being raised to believe she is a special little princess and everything thing should be handed to her just because her parents spoiled her rotten. Get a job, work for a living and earn what you have just like you should and like I have done for 25 years! She makes me want to puke especially since my girl is far better looking than she is and struggles to put food on the table for her kids. She does manage to support 5 kids from a dead beat father. Thankfully shes with me now but she works her ass off to provide for those kids which makes it sooo much easier for me to help her when she needs it! Lady, time to toughen up and do something other than try to be a princess on someone elses dime!
WOW. I disliked Vienna until last nights show. Jake is a jerk and would only be able to function in a relationship with a woman that was willing to deal with a real control freak. Jake couldnt take that this woman has a mind of her own and shes not some old fashioned push over. The only women that would side with Jake on this one are the bitter ones that dont want to admit their partner treats them like crap also.
I watched the Bachelor last year with Jake and thought then he was an idiot. He was very fake. I do believe he went on for his own personal reasons. He took the girl that everyone hated. Why? Because he could ditch her as soon as he got what he wanted. This way, if he took someone nice he just might feel obligated. Vienna, this of this as a blessing.
If the show The Bachelor survives another season it will be a miracle. They need a makeover. Perhaps a psychologist as part of the interview process?
I am as guilty as the rest of you for reading this dribble, and worse yet responding, but are there not more important issues in our world that need our attention and comments. Like jobs, the overall economy, health care, immigration, the Gulf Oil crisis?
How about if we spend more time trying to do our part to resolve those issues, and let Jake and Vienna just fade into the sunset.
Have a happy life!
Vienna is so immature. She doesn't let him speak. She interrupts him, calls him a liar, interrupts him blah blah blah. She doesn't want him to have an opinion or thought that isn't about her. Granted, I think his 'you undermind me' statement didn't have much to back it up but her behavior made it clear that she's a psycho girl. She's too young and immature for him. He's found his 15 minutes of fame so he should just be single and enjoy it. They were BOTH stupid to think you could find love on a reality show. Only one couple has survived from these shows. The rest have been riddled with drama...duh!
When you are all done taking sides in this fake drama, will you please come to my aid and assist the human rights groups hoping to prevent my stoning after a conviction of adultery in a kangaroo court in Iran. Or perhaps we can just bury these two idiots (and the producers of these shows) up to their chest and stone them to death.
Sakineh Mohammadie Ashtiani
And to everyone that feels this topic is discusting or "a new low for CNN", why are you wasting your time reading it and commenting on it. Move on to the issues that are important to you. this is an entertainment piece, not meant to be more important that world peace. CNN reports on all things/issues both large and small. Get over it and shut up!
This belongs on the "Who GIves a Crap" channel. BFD!
I wanted to hear more about the dog....Chris is a jerk.
Listening to his ex-girlfriend it is Jake who is a lier. I cannot believe I felt sorry for this loser. He is the one who is a media hog and can't get enough. No one cares about you Jake, so get over it. You hurt an innocent girl and you should be ashamd of yourself.
Both of them are kinda nuts. Both of them did the show to get attention. And they broke up in public because they wanted that every last bit of attention they could get. This season is no different. Many of the guys are keeping secret girlfriends and other embarrassing facts under wraps. That nasty writer wanna-be is gonna get comeuppance soon!
Gosh......Jack...... gay I don't know.......but he seems to like being in control in the relationship.........Vienna is a bit mouthy........this is why you have to get to know the people that you are dating because everyone puts their best foot forward in the beginning of the relationship......for the fear of being rejected......Jack just didn't like the real Vienna......her representative left the building. They are not a match.....to bad.
LOL. This reminds me of an 8th grade break up. This article was wonderful – totally "fluff" and something to read beside murder/war/oil spill/etc. We all need a "fluff" break sometime and this was mine for today.
I was embarassed for the both of them. They were both ridiculously immature and we laughed nonstop. I think they are both liars.
He should have chosen Tinley
Anytime someone says another person is controlling and then provides specific instances of freakish controlling behavior, you know they just couldn’t have made it up. The way he handled himself spoke volumes of the scary, nasty person he is. She should consider her self lucky to be freed from that psycho!
It's a good job this is only a blog entry, because it doesn't meet any basic standard of journalism, and even less in the way of common sense. Vienna maybe annoying, and she's certainly very mouthy, but I think she opened Jake up like a can of tuna last night, nailing him on point after point. When he finally lost his temper and yelled at her, we all got a glimpse behind the curtain, that combined with him admitting to throwing a GPS around the car behind she "undermined" his driving directions gave the strong impression that this guy is something of a monster. Chris Harrison took his now traditional mysoginistic stance and tried to make Vienna look as bad as he possibly could – asking her how much she was paid for magazine interviews but failing to ask Jake the same pointed question when the subject of his interviews came up. I think even he was a little shocked when Jake's inner rage spilled out for us all to see, but still failed to offer Vienna so much as a tissue to ease her obvious distress. These are not good people, and in many ways they represent the worst in our society, and we are all the lesser for watching it.
I watched this play out on the Bachlorette last night, and if this is real and not acting they are completely incompatible with each others personality. Vieanna is very open, and Jake is very closed and up tight. He can't tolerate her opinions, or probably anyone elses either. He's so sensitive anything that she doesn't agree with he takes as criticism. He is a controller and needs some help for this trait. Vieanna should take off running, anyone that can't accept a puppy's training time is completely self-centered.
I have zero sympathy for Vienna. She obviously thought Jake was going to give her a free ride and a cushy lifestyle, and shower her with affection 24/7. She is high maintenance, attention seeking, and yes, a drama queen. Susan Lucci is a better actress than she is, and that isn't saying much. She actually reminded me of a femal version of my ex and I felt bad for Jake when he said that he couldn't do anything right in her eyes and that she was always the one that was right and had to have the last word. She basically tricked him into picking her in the first place , then managed to blow her own image of herself within a month. I don't believe for a second that the Jake we saw last night was typical Jake. Everyone has their boiling points, and her behavior obviously pushed him too far. As for the ladies here who keep defending her, please, wake up... Stop dfending her just because she is a woman. Everyone in the house hated her, and I'm sure that Jake realized that too when he finally had the chancce to watch all of the episodes of The Bachelor as they were broadcast.. I am sooo sure that contributed to ward his disgust of her.
Jake is on the DL and Vienna is a drama queen. The two were trying to outshine the other thinking it was all about them when in actuality it was all about the rating. The two should get a life a real life and stop using up good air time.
Vienna is stupid. It's all a game to her. I agree with Cindy, totally. I think Jake should have chosen Tenley, she was perfection. Jake's family loved Tenley but hated Vienna, so why choose Vienna? Stupid. stupid, stupid. Vienna got what she deserved, she needed someone to actually tell her No. Jake's a good guy, I think, and I don't think he'd yell at someone for no reason. There's gotta be a good reason. There's my 2 cents.
I agree. Vienna is such a loser! I wanted to knock her out myself. She needs to shut up and see what other people have to say. Maybe she will learn to be a better person. As far as her saying she hates L.A., well, L.A. hates her too. She needs to go back to Florida with her ugly face and bleach job and take a long walk on a short pier. Jake gay? I don't think so.
the lovely tale of Duche and Duchette
Gawd you people are gullible. You think this isn't scripted? This is just a redux of soap operas. It is a merging of reality TV with Soaps. This is a way more flexible format due to the idiots that believe this crap is real. Many people think this reality TV stuff is real or some of it is real so they can relate to the common characters even though it is all just brain candy. Eventually, it will rot your mind and you will be mentally lazy and fat. For those who think this is real.
That was a very entertaining show last night.
It changed my perspective on both of them to some degree. Though it seemed at times they each had a few 'fake' moments, I do think both were hurt/angry, and were not faking much. She seemed to live up to be the drama queen we knew she was, as well as immature, but I think she was genuinely hurt and the tears were real. He too was no Mr. perfect in this and had a few fake moments, but men don't show their emotions the same way (it's nature), and I think he was genuinely hurt and angry at the same time.
I don't think either are bad people, and do feel they did love each other. They just made some bad/selfish mistakes that cost them the relationship. She needed to mature and not be so high maintainance, and learn to be more supportive/giving, but I think with her age, personality & upbringing, it was hard for her to change. Where as, he should never had jumped into another reality tv show so soon after. He should have given it more time to get to know her, communicate with her, in the real world, before jumping back onto the tv stage. In doing so, he basically chose the spotlight/acting over her. She made a bad choice to go to the tabloids for fear of him doing it first(and for the cash grab)...she would have had ample opportunity to get her side of the story out if she was more patient, and they may have been able to at least remain friends.
So he chose to go for the fame and she chose to get a tabloid cash grab. Neither are perfect, but they are not complete jerks either. Maybe they are not compatible, however had they both made the relationship a priority for more than a month, truly got to know each other, and work out differences, then who knows, they made have stood a chance.
I actually feel bad for both to some degree.
Is anyone struck by the irony of all this? Here you have an ABC show that continues on with high ratings, that is ostensibly about "finding romance" and yet has shown, over and over and over again, that relationships that happen in these made-for-television situations barely have a chance to survive when there's no fancy dinners, mansions, and pretty locations to create a dream-world that these contestants live in for a while. Yet rather than try to hide that fact, ignore that fact, or gloss over it, ABC is more than happy to exploit the fact that its relationship formula doesn't work, putting Jake and Vienna on as another extraordinary example of the show's failure. I think some day, years from now, this show, in particular, will be the example of just how whacked we were for watching this stuff. And I say this as one of the whacked.
I freely admit I do not watch this show for the love, I watch it for the drama. I could care less about some ridiculous TV wedding!
Is anyone struck by the irony of all this? Here you have an ABC show that continues on with high ratings, that is ostensibly about "finding romance" and yet has shown, over and over and over again, that relationships that happen in these made-for-television situations barely have a chance to survive when there's no fancy dinners, mansions, and pretty locations to create a dream-world that these contestants live in for a while. Yet rather than try to hide that fact, ignore that fact, or gloss over it, ABC is more than happy to exploit the fact that its relationship formula doesn't work, putting Jake and Vienna on as another extraordinary example of the show's failure. I think some day, years from now, this show, in particular, will be the example of just how whacked we were for watching this stuff. And I say that as one of the whacked.
In other words,
I only wish Vienna would have smacked the SMUG look off Jake's face before she stormed off. She is emotional because she BELIEVED they were going to be starting a life together, not advancing Jake's acting career. Vienna can do so much better!!
I think Jake came across as a real a#*hole! I actually felt sorry for Vienna, and I really don't even like her! Again...negative role models win out when it comes to being on T.V.
Jake – Sweetie....come out, come out wherever you are :-)
I say you go boy! Good for you for standing up for yourself in public. More men need to do this and stop getting walked on so they aren't accused of being "mean. She's sooooo representative of the current state of the american woman.
Jeff, YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. Vienna is the state of woman today. Not letting men talking and expecting a man to just sit by while they do whatever they want. It's the feminization of the American Male.
I laugh at the commercials that say, do you know someone you would like to submit for the next Bach/bachlorette? Why would I do that? Maybe a dweeb or someone I hate, but a friend? No wayyyyyyyyyyy
I thought I was on Jake's side in all of this, but after watching his demeanor last night–I think he is a jerk. What is wrong with his mouth by the way? All that is missing are bugs bunny teeth sticking out when he talks. I think they are both controlling personalities though and that rarely works. It sounds to me as though outside of a physical relationship–there was nothing to begin with.
Jake is emotionally abusive. He has an obvious short temper and the way he treated her throughout the interview was disgusting. I was never a fan of Vienna and didn't like her at all – but what I saw last night made me loathe Jake. Chris should've taken more control of the interview and the interruptions. When someone is sitting next to you, lying about your situation to all of America – would you not interrupt as well – its inevitable. He is gross.
Jake abusive, please!!!!! Vienna not letting him get a word in edgewise – did you not see the same show I did.
Vienna is the abusive one. If you were interrupted like that day in and day out you probably would have been the same way Jake was last night. Vienna is a little baby who isn't getting her way but yet managed to get 90000 for running to a magazine – she needs to be slapped.
Shelby = I completely agree with you.
Shirley = not so much.
Unfortunately, I believe the women who 'side' with Vienna behave the exact same way & they now feel "powerful" because Vienna had her chance to stick up for women like them across America. Being a woman myself, I feel completely sick to my stomach watching women behave that way & then blame the man because he's not doing "x,y,z". As Jake said..you could have left & the response from her "you wouldn't let me". HELLO – if the relationship is bad, you leave. period. If you try to leave but can't – that's called abuse & you call the cops. It's pathetic, the situations that these women get themselves into (including the mental state of where they say it's "ok" over & over in their head), and then act like a 2 year old in order to get everyone else to 'believe' their story (hence she "broke" the story to a tabloid – again, another child like behavior) Lastly, not one girl like Vienna in that house....so is it a real surprise that Jake ended up not liking her too...the answer = NO.
You can tell all the overly needy drame queens in the comment section, they are the one's showing "understanding" for Vienna lol.
The truth is she's just a crazy woman who (like all crazy women) will find fault in everything and everyone ...except herself.
Who cares about the adventures of toolbox and horse face?
I think Vienna got exactly what she deserved, she played the victim in the house. She is now playing victim with Jake and for the media. I burst out laughing with her fake crying and then leaving (she best work on her acting skills). Granted Jake was a bit smug and unemotional, but do you blame him? Who could tolerate being constantly interrupted and in a relationship with such an immature little girl. He seemed more believable than Princess, maybe she should go back home to Daddy so he can take care of her.
Now wait a minute guys. If any of you watched that season of "The Bachelor", you MUST remember the fact that every woman in that house had a problem with Vienna, and in fact most of them absolutely despised her. She poured on the phoney charm, putting on one hell of an ACT in front of Jake the entire time making him fall for her, believing that she was being unjustly, unfairly treated by the other women. Some of the other women even tried to warn Jake about what Vienna was really like, but he chose to believe Vienna over them, citing that they were jealous... So he picks her, finds out what she is REALLY like OFF CAMERA, and is understandably disappointed! I watched the show last night and she was like a bad soap opera actress the whole time. She wouldn't look Jake in the eye, she wouldn't look the host in the eye, and was looking everywhere else but at them while she spewed her BS. Jake looked directly at the host everytime he spoke... When he was ABLE to speak and she wasn't interrupting him... At one point he repeated his sentence EIGHT times before she finally shut up and let him get a word out.. I can't say that I blame him for blowing up toward the end of the interview, because the constant interruption would have made me mad too... Sorry folks, this is a rare moment where I have to side with the guy on this one.. Vienna's messed up and needs some serious psychiatric help.
THANK YOU!!! I COMPLETELY AGREE! It's as if NO ONE watched the Bachelor & then all of a sudden tuned in last night to watch the "jake & vienna" battle. HELLO = No one liked her in that house & clearly we could see her 'true' colors on camera! I would blow up if someone CONSTANTLY spoke over me all the time, that would get soooo annoying! In addition, she tries to always be right...again, finding out directions after Jake already told her where the location was.....I know women like this & they are SO completely annoying!
Equally as annoying = the people who respond to the blogs as "who care's about these 2 idiots"....Hello – no one cares, it's called DRAMA! ABC wants us to stir the pot with comments, so quit acting like you don't care...otherwise, you wouldn't waste your time reading this article or taking the time to post a comment.
This is why shows like this are TOTALLY STUPID!!!
HAHAHA! talk about great tv! i am totally team vienna, even though she is pretty ignorant... "poly-o-graph test" lol. jake is condescending. whatever, we all know it's fake. at least it was entertaining! now let's wait and see if vienna actually keeps her word and stays out of the spotlight... yeah right
Vienna has always appeared on TV (The Bachelor ) as the drama queen, immature, whiney,never stops talking and disliked by the other girls. Lots of viewers and me included knew they were wrong for each other from Day one. Both of them knew on embarking on such of an adventure the possibilities of the consequences. Last night's interview Jake appeared embarresed. Vienna was out of control and that usually happens when you are guilty of things and don't know what to say.
Who cares :)
You are so correct, but be careful they could have kids just like them.
I've known guys like Jake before and let's just say he is a lying a– Vienna u believe you!
The problem is...Jake the Fake is obviously gay. He wanted no part of lovemaking with her. As for her she's just a mouth that won't shut. I don't believe a man should hit a woman but I would've overlooked it in this case...she just wouldn't shut up and let anyone else talk. Hope that's it for both of them.
Nice to see 165+ comments (as of this moment) on the important issues in today's world. Who are these two people and why should the world care?
I think ALL of you are wrong.
I think they deserve each other.... heh-heh
They reminded me of two children (around 14 years) who want to be the be the most popular in their FIFTH Grade class. They were like..... he's staring at me, she touched me, he and she took my candy. For the love of Pete let them grow up before they ever get on the air again. No fault just children.
the whole thing felt like it was a sham and set up. It's as if ABC called them up and said "we'll give you $100,000 if you come on TV tonight and portray this huge fight and make it seem like there are big issues"
I couldn't believe how fakt and fabricated the thing was, Vienna's sudden outburst and storming off the set felt like it was on Cue. It just didn't feel real at all.
She's got a personality that I personally found irritating. My girlfriend and I were both was surprised he chose her. She seems head-strong, difficult, and not very deep. He strikes me as somebody that needs a woman that's more down to earth, relaxed/easy-going, and thoughtful. He can do a lot better and should not miss her for one second.
The problem is...Jake the Fake is obviously gay. He wanted no part of lovemaking with her. As for her she's just a mouth that won't shut. I don't believe a man should hit a woman but I would've overlooked it in this case...she just wouldn't shut up and let anyone else talk. Hope that's it for both of them.
I was waiting for Jakes "fake" cry on another balcony scene..lol He picked Vienna because she was the youngest and was in such AWE of him. He thought she would be a great trophy girl. And come on Jake, you wouldn't have intimacy with her cuz you didn't feel it emotionally??LOL You should of been in the honeymoon phase and gone at it like rabbits. Very controlling dude and to give up a pilot career for the spot light...grow up Mr. Hollywood
Jake was always a neurotic loser. I was so glad when Jilliam dumped him, and then he showed how really desparate he was to come back on the show to "warn" Jillian about Wes. When he was booted , there were a lot of folks who thought it was just horrible and that he should be the next Bachelor. What do they think now?
Jake has issues. He obviously doesn't have the patience to date someone in her 20's. His continued complaints of being underminded seemed quite strange. Especially as it related to the arrangement of furniture. You can't script this kind of crazy.
While I have not been a huge Vienna fan in the past either. She may not be the prettiest chick either. If you watch the body language last night. It was very telling. Vienna was real. Jake was total fake.
I hope Vienna finds nice guy for she deserves that.
Jake deserves that fake Ali, who by the way I have heard does not pick anyone at the end of this season.
Was it just me or did it seem that Chris Harrison was biased against Vienna? After a few commercial breaks I thought Chris and Jake were going to make out - Chris was blantanly on Jake's side . For a second – after a commercial break – I thought I saw Chris get up off his knees to return to his seat! What a tool!
140 comments so far to this "news" or "entertainment". Such a sad time we live in. Eugenics is not just a theory. The good news is that my ability to remain in the top 1.5% of US households by income is obviously secure for a long time to come. Thank you, knuckle-draggers and morons for making things so easy for those of us with half a brain or more.
Very sad times we live in, Dan. It is a worthless TV show that devalues love and long-term relationships. People, live your life and not a fairy tale one!
Jake, stick to your one true love, a Boeing 737.
Most likley alone by what you just wrote...
jake your true colours came out last night, what a temper you have and wow so controlling in such a short time...
I can't stand how Vienna always cut Jake off. She said things just like she did in the house "Your so fake!", and crying and acting all pathetic and victim like. I don't buy it. Jake is like a lot of guys who are sucked in by a this type of woman who is a blood sucker, he acted withdrawn yet seething with anger and hurt. He held it in until he told her to shut up, which is what I said to my tv. Jake and Vienna were never well matched. I don't believe he was emotionally abusive, in fact I think she was towards him. I feel sorry for Jake, and I hope Vienna disappears from our tv and grocery isles in the tabloids she loves so much.
I think Vienna was dupped and truly believed that he wanted to be a pilot and husband only to find out later that his true goal was to jumpstart an acting career! His comment of "at least I am trying to have a career" wasn't even a defense as it was a confirmation! The d-bag had a plan before going on the show – find fame! Don't feel sorry for any of them – Jake is just as bad as Vienna. I can't believe how easy some of you people are! I guess that is how serial killers find their victims – some people will buy anything! Jake played everyone! Hellooooooooo!!!!??!?!?!?!?!
I think most guys fail to realize that the behavior of the women that they choose to be in their lives are a direct reflection of their stewardship(most of the time). If a guy seems "perfect," while his girlfriend/wife seems to have gone off the deep-end, then he is neglecting some need. The good thing about women is that they will try to communicate(some better than others) this need, but if the guy is preoccupied with things that seem more important. then there is an issue. Jake was not believable in this case. When Vienna directly addressed his accusations about infidelity, he didn't have to offer but a smug look. While it may be true that he didn't want the drama, he was just looking for an excuse to get out of the relationship to further his career.
This could not have been said better!
Ok we all knew what kind trash Vienna was. Yelling and going off like that shows that you don't have class. Also, "You're a fake liar" makes him a honest person. I'm thiking his pee started burning right after hooking up with her so he said not to the ho3!
Oh yes I watched this trash – it is among my few guilty pleasures – mostly because I can't believe that this generation of lovers would go on television, kiss and dry hump over a dozen people, and then declare they've found their one true love at the end. It is all scandalous; and highly entertaining. But anyone who goes on these programs and expects there to be long lasting love is out of their minds. Jake got EXACTLY what he deserved when he picked the gold-digger. She didn't hide anything from anyone. And he never fooled me with that fake grin and the even more fake tears – I would say that he's hiding a whole lot.
After seeing Jake in action last night, his choice of Vienna suddenly made sense to me. He viewed the Bachelor as a road to stardom, or at least fame, and had no intention of following through with a wedding. To make it all work out for him, he chose the woman who was least popular with the viewers, and clearly had the most character defects of any of the contestants. He calculated that, when it came time to break it off with Vienna, the public would remember their dislike of her and take his side. Unfortunately for Jake, hell hath no fury like a woman scorned...that, and he lost his composure on camera and showed us that he's a bully and an emotional abuser. Now I understand his testimonial during the season about going on so many first dates – the Texas ladies had him pegged by the time dinner was served.
THANK GOD HE DID NOT TAKE ALI BACK.........
ALI HAS HER OWN ISSUES ON HER SHOW
BUT JAKE IS A FAKE...... LIKE WHAT WAS SAID ON THE BACHELORETTE PROGRAM HE CAM OFF OF...
HE WAS TOO GOOD TO B TRUE!!!! BYE BYE JAKE YOUR 15 MINS ARE UP.....
Ali doesn't stand to do much better, with her "non-traditional woman" baloney. Unless she watches that episode and learns. And really that's all it is–they're not bad people. They just need to learn.
Wow – that was quite a spectacle. Vienna is a bimbo, no doubt. EEven when she talked, I could not understand her ramblings. Jake did not get a chance to say much of anything. You could see and feel his frustration. He was warned during the "Bachelor" about Vienna, but he chose to ignore the warnings. I have no sympathy for him. Vienna is a lost cause. Get some glasses or contacts, Vienna. You are cross-eyed.
Bet Ali's thinking, "Thank heaven's I dodged that bullet!!"
Jake loves Vienna more than she loves him. She is just another Amarosa of the Aprentice. Jake should find another love and forget her. Don't forget he was warned of todays behaviors of Vienna by Ali and other women. Good luck to Jake and hope that Vienna grows up.
Quick summary: We all knee Vienna was a "princess" from watching the Bachelor. Her own father said it.
We didn't know that Jake was a self-absorbed control freak as well. They really were two peas in a pod. Unfortunately, they couldn't get along.
Winner: Neither. It was a tie. (Both were wrong and need work on their personalities before they can find true love and are happy.) Vienna and Jake both need to learn to listen and care for others as they do themselves.
I knew this break up was coming since the beginning. They are soo much alike that they can't stand each other. Vienna is a spoiled daddy's girl who can't shut up if she cant have her way. Especially now that Jake is famous and beating the iron while it's hot in his career.
Vienna is a child!!! Grow up already!
I feel bad for Vienna... Jake showed his true colors last night - he's a smug jerk with no regard for Vienna's feelings. Poor girl...
How can any of you say that Vienna couldn't finish what she had to say? You must have seen a different show than I did. She had the first ten minutes without an interruption and then interrupted every few seconds thereafter!!!!!! Jake even asked her if she were finished before he started!!!!
I think Jake showed remarkable control by not beating the crap out of her every time she interrupted him. How can anyone be sympathetic to that conniving, selfish, self-centered overbearing woman?
Hey Joe, I think I show remarkable restraint by not calling you a Neanderthal jughead.
I think Jake is very controlling and rude. The reason Vienna kept interupting Jake and Chris is because they would not let her finish what she had to say. Then Jake asked her why she was raising her voice. HE GOT MEAN AND RAISED HIS VOICE. Chris was on Jake's side from the beginning. He has to be because Jake was the star of the Bachelor. Why didn't he just go on with a life with Vienna after the final rose. Instead he went on DWTS. He is out for the fame. I wish everyone would stop giving him the time of day
Jay is a closeted gay man. Vienna is very demanding. Initially they got together and it all seemed swell, but as time went by the true colors starting to show off. jay needs to confront his feelings and figure himeslf out instead of looking for fame and pretending to be otherwise. Vienna, I hope she was not a single child, needs to mature and control her emotions, she was acting like a teary eyed 16 year old after her first puppy love break up.
Hey, but this beats Larry King farting or Nancy Graceless and her psychotic eyes !
I think both Jake and Vienna have problems. Jake seems like he could be a little bit of a control freak and Vienna just wants attention and will do anything to get it. The whole thing was completely ridiculous! If either one of them truly cared at all about the other, they would not have gone on national television and told their story or sold it to a tabloid. Who cares what other people think happened, people are going to form their own opinions regardless of what happened because you really don't know if they are telling the truth or not.
I was embarrassed and couldn't watch the whole thing. I had to turn it off. I thought I had dialed into the Maury Povich or Jerry Springer show. How can people have so little self respect as to go on national TV with their dirty laundry – and the host was egging them on. Jake kept his mouth shut for a long time, didn't say a word, while Vienna was telling her story, then he asked if she were finished and tried to tell his. She interrupted him every few words. I think she is the bad guy, but who really cares? I think (I hope) this show is on its last legs.
Reading some of the posts about "crazy women" and then the responses on this board got me thinking:
The premise of the show: 20 or so women fighting for 1 man. THe producers know women are crazy and will fight, scratch, claw, lie, cheat, and manipulate to get what they want. THAT IS THE ENTIRE PREMISE OF THE SHOW. For some of you women to not only defend this girl, but by doing so defend the entire premise of the show, really should get a mental evaluation.
How can a woman today not find this totally offensive on every level. It is as some other posters said...you are confused and crazy obviously. You do not even see that the entire show is a result of the insanity that persists in women's culture. From diets, magazines, celebrities, clothing.....what is not shallow about the current "American Woman" and the culture that surrounds your interests. I will wait for any answers!!!!
We're not narrow minded and submissive as you would prefer. How can a man in this day not find it totally immature to have to go on a TV show to find a wife, and then after starting with 20 women and narrowing it down to one, he still has no clue as to how to maintain the relationship?
Although I watched the show last night simply to see the Jake/Vienna interveiw, I think that it shows how times are changing. How horrible that we all were able to witness such a negative exhange. A part of me feels guilty for having followed the break up reports. I watched the show several times when they were on and I didn't think that Vienna was the kind of girl that would be a good partner in a grown up relationship. I think that Jake does have some ego issues but I think that Vienna is spoiled and was seeking a certain lifestyle that she did not get but Jake was being offered. Vienna's actions seem like a publicity stunt. From the comments posted here, it worked. Personally, I think that it is improbable that a relationship that comes from such a contrived genesis will most likely fail. ABC exploits these people and the people stand in line to be exlploited. I hope that both of their 15 minutes of fame ended last night a the conclusion of the show.
Jake is a controlling, manipulative, calculative sociopath. He basically admitted to acting like a psycho when Vienna called him out on his antics (i.e. GPS and furniture situation). Chris Harrison should be fired...
Both Vienna and Jake were/are extremely immature. Her interrupting was very irritating, but I think she was just trying to get her point across after having to live w/him for awhile. This whole undermining crap he was shoveling was ridiculous! Grow up, Jake! I never was a Vienna fan during the show, but I didn't care for Jake either. He has a smarmy look on his face, and just watching him last night made me sick. Both of them need to grow up and get out of L.A., go back to your former lives!
And for everyone who calls the show fake and hates watching it - just think of it as entertainment, nothing more, nothing less. It definitely was entertaining!
Jake's been creeping me out since he first appeared on TV. If he wants to be an actor, maybe learning how to come across as something other than a closeted, serial-killing control freak would be a good first step.
There is a Proverb about listening to the advice of others – and Jake didn't do it. Unfortunately, he is reaping the consequences. In reading some of the responses – my question is: how can others justify Vienna's disrespect for normal conversation and subsequent temper tantrum. Jake was not being emotionally abusive. I don't know how he was suppose to respond to Vienna's immature display. It would be difficult for anyone to come across as "normal" when "pitted" next to her.
I used to like Jake as well, but then I watched him on Dancing with the stars, and his true personality came out. The way he talked to Cheslea was unacceptable. A lot of people will say this is Vienna's fault because all the other girls in the house couldn't stand her, but I think they just felt threatened by her.
Vienna has held her self with grace, granted last night she needed to shut up and quit interrupting. But she is young yet and will learn with time.
I knew this one wasn't gonna work out. When I watched the Bachelor I thought Gia was a better match, but now I think all the other girls dodged the bullet on this one.
Vienna is a suffocating personality who can't accept responsibility for her actions. She drove Jake crazy by interrupting him constantly which would be irritating to anyone. ...Then she plays the victim and makes Jake seem like a monster for standing up for himself. She will never see that constant interruption is bad behavior and she will point the finger outward every time & never back at herself. Most of America didn't like her... the rest of the girls in the house didn't like her... and it's clear as to why. I think Jake held it together pretty well and it took about 15 interruptions before his anger elevated. ...That's better than most people would be able to handle. People need to understand that & lose the self-righteousness.
Tenley dodged the bullit there! What an arrogant sadist Jake is!
Hello? Did no one watch the show? Through the entire show everyone got to see what a self centered, spoilt person Vienna was. The episode with her Daddy saying he expected her to be treated like a princess almost made me vomit.
The other women all warned Jake off of her...the viewers could all see it...so what is the breaking news now? Why is it such a surprise? I don't think Jake was as ready to settle down as he professes, so that was no surprise to me either.
I'm just amazed they are making such a big deal over it all. There have got to be better stories to invest their time in!
I implore all people to not waste one more second about these two retards.
Jake's biggest mistake was choosing Vienna. After that, he did about as well as any non-superhuman reasonably could. He was very slow to anger, but at some point you have to get angry because was just ridiculous. My suggestion to Her Highness is that she start kissing some toads. I hear there's some good bright-colored ones in the Amazon jungle she might be interested in.
OK...To all these people that have changed their minds on Vienna, she is the fakest thing I have come across. She is the teacher of drama 101!!! Yes...Jake did give off a different vibe, but c'mon, what chance did he have to speak? If that was MY spouse/girlfriend I would be freaking too. It takes 2 and when ONE of them have been asked a question, the other is to SHUT her mouth and let the man speak. Yes, he blew up...Do u blame him??? I think that she is all for the money (she said that it had nothing to do with the money) and he just wants to go on with his life!!! Chris asked them if this would be it for the "interviews", they BOTH said yes...Let's see where poor Vienna will show her face next???
Has anyone thought that Jake might be in the closet
Seriously DT - did you not read any of the previous posts?? LOL good lord.....
Amazing to me how no one is addressing the abuse in this situation. It's apparent this guy has some serious anger control problems. I was afraid for her last night. If you can't control yourself in front of a camera, what are you like behind closed doors? This guy has some tex book domestic abuser characteristics and everyone seem to think it's a joke or blame the female. That's why we have so many people dying at the hands of people like this no one takes it seriously, it's just entertainment to people. It begins with someone trying to control what you say, what you do, accusations of infidelity, and insecurity about people around you and also exclusion from your family members. It eventually end up in a more dangerous place. It doesnt matter if you like Vienna or not, no woman deserves to be treated like that interuption or no interuptions. It sounds like she had alot on her chest and she wasn't gonna take his crap anymore. He also needs to look up undermining in the dictionary. This interview was so one sided. Why didn't the host Chris ask Jake about his acting plans or ask him to apologize to her? Why did he not say a word when Jake yelled at her the way he did? I suppose they wanted to protect their investment being that he's in an upcoming show. ABC sunk to a new low with this one. Goes to show how many wolves are in sheeps clothing.
Abuse is cutting off someone every time they try and say a single word moron.
If this guy were cutting her off and not letting her speak women would have him thrown into jail for mental abuse.
Everytime the guy trys to talk she has to "get so high and mighty" to cut him off and not even allow a grown man to SPEAK!!! And he is abusive......maybe he was angry and acted out because of her insanity. Women never see how THEIR actions lead to how a situation unfolds. Typical angry, moronic, confused, scared, and crazy woman!
HAHA, we are all falling for these "experiments in human behavior"....everything is total fake, the program is fake...the feelings created by it are fake....nothing is real because everything happens under "out of the common" situations....let's take the actual Bachelorette...Portugal, Iceland....who date guys every single week in a different country?...awwwww, so romantic, the lights, the sea, the sky....where is reality?...where is the no-make-up morning face, the bad breath, the commute to work, the disagreements with your folks, the dirty hair, the bad table manners, the crotch scratching, the midnight pee session, the dirty underwear, etc, etc, etc?...the contestants fall for the character on the show, not for the real person....then when they go back to reality, oops....it wasn't as good as in the show....all for the thirst of peeping how people react...HAHAHA, let's keep watching...is entertaining!!!...LOL
Jake is a card carrying narcissisit..read any profile of someone with narcissistic personality disorder and you will find Jake. (it's in their eyes) Unfortunately, Vienna, who not without her own issues, got sucked into his web and he used her vulnerability to want to be loved and did what men who have NPD do, and sucked the life out of her and left her. Yes, she is looney, but no one deserves the pain a Narcissist can inflict on a victim. Vienna, go get some counseling to heal from this and grow up a little bit..Jake, well you will find your next victim in no time, they all do.
Vienna is a classi textbook narcissistic drama queen, I deal with someone who's just her like everyday....she cries, she lies...she does whatever she needs to do to get her way or what she wants. The problem is when these people really do need help, no one cares because of all of their manipulating drama and lies.
Good Grief....will Jake (Jerk) fly himself to a far away land and stay there alone to bask in his huge ego ! What a control freak.....taht smug expression made me want to smack him.....but maybe pervious reports were true....maybe he is gay and no women will make him happy. Jake, please just GO AWAY....YOU ARE BY NO MEANS A CELEBRITY>>>so stop " acting" like one/////and that ugly cherry picture your mom painted for you in your livign room....IS UGLY !!!!!! Just that turned me off from the get go......" Pilot"......WHO CARES !!!!
If I was Vienna, I would sell my story too. For the months of torture being wth that little man a pay out is well deserved.......GO GIRL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree with love in richmond.....She was never planning to work, and was just gonna fly the friendly skies for free.
What a loser she is......
Everyone's all in an uproar because Vienna says she'll do a second ABC interview for $250K - If i were her, I'd demand $500 to put up with that humiliation - ABC's getting rich off her, so I don't blame her one bit for wanting a piece of the pie!!! As long as she's away from that control freak robot, she'll be ok – i think people LOVE her now, compared to that freak
These two guys both have issues. Chris Harrison loves to judge others and sit oh his thrown pointing fingers. He is the real gay blade of the show. He hates women and that is obvious. Jake is a smug, condesending, arrogant, do gooder who thinks he is better than everyone else. It disgusted me to see these guys positioned for war against Vienna. I believe she was telling the absolute truth and she certainly showed more class that either of those put together.
I agree, Jake only did this to get into show business PERIOD. Vienna wasn't right for him, that was very obvious to everyone and that's why he picked her-He knew he was going to dump her once he got what he was really out for-FAME. He's a bigger jerk than what's-his-name and Molly. But in that case, what's-his-name did end up with the one he should have picked in the first place. Jake and what's-HER-name should get together when the divorce from her childhood sweetheart makes the news.
Jake is a short, putzy loser with a fake smarmy smirk. Rude, arrogant and ignorant! Please do not tell me this is a setup for him to hook up once again with Ali!!!!!!!
Yesterday was a truly example of the kind of ethics and morals Chris Harrison has. He did not protect Vienna even though PSYCHO Jake Pavelka abused her in from of the cameras. Shame on you ABC, Chris Harrison and Jake Pavelka stink. Vienna should demand them for degrading women's image, that offends all women. ABC you are letting this abuse to happen in your cameras, you are responsible for your PSYCHO Jake Pavelka, he is and always a nobody, small little guy, a loser as a pilot, and now showing his true abusive personality.
Get rid of Chris Harris!
Jake the jerk can go fly solo as far as I am concerned. I will never believe anything he says again!
Was anybody else taken aback by Chris' insensitive comment about not wanting to talk about Vienna's dog anymore. Vienna had just mentioned the dog had been hooked up to IV's but it’s not like they went on and on about the dog. The comments were relative. And then Chris had to throw that in there! I don't know who is the bigger jerk: Chris or Jake.
I agree that Chris Harrison was on Jake's side in this, because he is paid to be...Jake was the star of the show, not Vienna...and Vienna broke contract by going to a competing rag to tell her story. THAT'S why Chris made the not-so-veiled remark about Vienna going away and shutting up after this interview. However, I do not think Chris Harrison has a personal side in this, I think the man is doing what he is paid to do, which is keep all of us watching the show and keeping all the players in line. AND, Jake is still under contract to do some other work as we know (unfortunately). But, so is Chelsea Hightower, and Jake's behavior under her tutelage was reprehensible. I certainly hope he was called on the carpet for it...too bad THAT wasn't on TV, lol
I don't watch these kind of shows, or much TV at all, but what on earth does he see in her? I had to look up the other contestants and there were much less crazy looking women on there. You can see the crazy in her eyes...
I have to laugh at this whole mess......admittedly I keep watching the show for the sheer entertainment KNOWING the majority of these hookups are a trainwreck waiting to happen. Case in point – Jake and Vienna. I almost believe that the producers of the show told Jake he HAD to pick Vienna 'cuz it would be good publicity and good for ratings - and there would be follow up shows. The other "girls" had Vienna's number early on as did probably most of the viewing audience. Likewise - most viewers had Jake figured out last season - he's a whiney little snot. Both are looking for their stardom - the show was their entre'. Vienna's relationship with her "Daddy" was scary for me - I honestly got the feeling there was something sort of perverted there when Jake went to visit the family last season. So Daddy's little girl has been hurt by that mean ol' Jake -- tough cookies. Take some deep cleansing breaths Jake and Vienna and move on......
I always thought Jake was an okay guy but last night he revealed himself to be a serious CREEP! The "she was always undermining me" was scary. He seems like the emotionally abusive type. Ladies stay away! He will never make a relationship work until he gets counseling!
What makes these two so engrossing is we know people like this in our real lives. Vienna is a spoiled brat who needs it to be about her ALL the time and do whatever to keep the spotlight on her. In everyday terms , she is "HIGH Maintanence". She never shuts up !!! Jake is the smug real life "KEN DOLL" who uses his looks and charms to try and have a "Stepford Wife". It's all about Him as well. Two different M.O.'s, same intent. First Kate Gosselin , now these two.Says alot about our entertainement culture.
As I sat and watched, a flood of emotion came over me because I have been in Vienna's shoes. Jake acted EXACTLY like my ex........smug, condescending and controlling. Nothing you do is right. That whole throwing the GPS thing probably seems small in the grand scheme, but add those behaviours up everyday and it starts to tear at your confidence. That is how the control starts. She needs to google "characteristics of an abuser," because he is one. She's lucky to get out now before it escalated to an physical level, although emotional abuse is just as bad and sometimes worse. I was not a Vienna fan at all but no one deserves that kind of treatment. I was luke warm on Jake, even on his season with Jillian....he just seemed fake.
Jake the Abuser, please, Vienna was the one interrupting the WHOLE TIME. If she didn't get her way then she walks off crying. Give me a break. Woman now want a man to just sit around and do there bidding. If he raises his voice or disagrees then he is an abuser. SHE WOULDN'T SHUT UP on that interview – SHE IS THE ABUSER NOT JAKE. Having to sit and listen to her wine like that I would have slapped her upside the head.
Jake said it's his first relationship where he lost his temper. Give me a break. You don't turn into a jerk out of nowhere. He was always a little nuts.
As much as I dislike Vienna I believe her. She has had to put up with the negative press since before she was chosen and handled it very well. I think once she knew it was over there was no going back she had to defend herself. I only hope she doesn't do Playboy or any other nude type photography. I can't imagine living with either one of them. He was so smug and condisending. I hope I never see them again along with Kate G.
Vienna is a baby...she wanted all the attention from her man..Well, get a real life. She came from trailer ****** and that is where she should go back to her daddy! Jake was in lust not love with her. And she really played him...He could not get a word in last night and I am sure she throw those fits when she did not get her way....Go JAKE.
And to think, Jake probably would have chosen Ally. Ooh, that would have turned out better....
Yeah, it would have turned out better because Ally would not have tolerated his crap for this long. That's why he didn't "let" her come back.
I couldn't watch the season of the Bach he was on, he made my skin crawl. Watching him last night made the hairs on the back of my neck stand up – he reminded me of the controlling husband of Julia Roberts in "Sleeping with the Enemy" eeeeeeek run a mileeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
As she gets older , she will figure out that this type of man is not worth getting all worked up over. He is a player, possibley gay, but waaaaaaay not into her, she would be better served if she just got on with her life and focused her attention on those that care about her. She can do better, he, however, needs a vapid, shallow (actress/dancer/model type) these vampires can be found in L.A. where he belongs. Good luck, Sweetie, you deserve better!!!!!
I think they are both at fault! Look what Jake's ex is saying about HIM, and why he went on the show. "He said, she said". This isn't over yet! I'm sure more dirt will come out. But I doubt we will ever know the real truth. I gave this relationship 6 months anyway, so I gave them credit! LOL!
I think Jake is a real JERk!
This is why this show is such a bust and is fake. The Producers lead them down the path of who to chose and manipulate the contestants. I was torn last night. I always though Vienna was a horrible person who was a bad choice for him. Nothing changed. She does talk too much, is an attention ho and pretty much interrupted anything he tried to say. I can see wanting to tell her to zip it. On the other hand he also seemed like a guy who was full of crap and who had some serious anger management problems. A realy fraud. Overall they are BOTH LOSERS and ABC and the show are losers for trotting out these people season after season, claiming it is true love.
I watched his last night... not much on TV during summer evenings. I have also scanned through the various posts on the episode and these two people. The most notable observation I can make is, not about Jake and Vienna, but the polar reactions. Yes... there are some folk "in the middle" and find both of them to be "equally stupid and narcissistic, but there are the polar opposites... those who "back" Vienna and those who "back" Jake. For those who "totally back" one or the other... did you watch the same program I did??? I fail to see how anyone could completely support – 100% – one or the other.
I agree with you. I didn't watch it because I think the Bachelor series is pretty much trailer park trash, but I'm amazed at the polarization of remarks.
I feel like I'm one of the rare few who's siding with Jake in this. Vienna is a lying sack of crap. I can see it in her eyes, and in her body language. I really feel like she's just doing this to get attention, because she was the first one to go running to the media, and pulling the woe is me routine. It's amazing how quickly she can turn her tears on and off like she does. And even one media outlet pointed out that she was dabbing at tears, that weren't even there. When I watch Jake in interviews, he's not entirely truthful, but a lot of what he's saying is the truth and he's stuck being the bad guy. We're all quick to slam him, but has anyone really tried to understand him ? The reason why I'm not inclined to be more on Vienna's side is because from the get go she has started off as fake and conniving. She had no problem tearing other people up when they crossed her path, and when Jake finally realized what a lot of us had seen and he put an end to it, Vienna pulled the classic victim routine. Jake, you've got me in your corner. Keep your chin up and take the high road man.
PS: Before anyone says that this is a typical "male" response (I've gotten that many times before) I will have you know that I am a female.
I don't think there is one person who read that post that couldn't tell you are a female. THAT was a typical femal responce. Better luck next time!
This female agrees. That so sounded like a female post that when I got to the end of it, I was surprised the person took the time to explain what gender she is.
Accused of being a typical male? It's obvious you're a woman, that was the first thing I thought while reading your comment. Ahhh yes Jake, I can't understand why everyone is so quick to slam you rather than UNDERSTAND YOU "Name WItheld" say's with starry dewy doe eyes. You heard heard from some Rag Mag Show that she didn't even cry real tears? Well why then do you suppose Chris was passing her all those tissues to wipe away the tears that were running down her face? Notice he didn't take her up on taking a Lie Detector Test. He totally lied to her about what line of work he was pursuing, On The Wings Of Love my A$$! I wonder how long it took him to get an Agent and have him get him booked on DWTS? Now he got a part on an episode of Drop Dead Diva and another acting project I hear coming up. And this isn't some new desire or unplanned thing that just dropped in his lap since The Bachelor. He played the part of young Walker in Walker Texas Ranger years back. The Bachelor, was just a stepping stone to get back into acting and Vienna (no matter what faults she has) got used and in a down right dirty way, she fell in love with him and got abused and treated like crap. Just because she sold her side of the story FIRST before the Publicity Wh0re did (and you'd better believe he's loving all of the publicity, even the negative he's getting.) It would take a female who see's a good looking guy (and that's all she notices about him) fall's for anything he says or doesn't say, ignore all of his actions and his controlling abusive language and over look all of that, it's because that's the actions of certain women who get sucked into looks and then finds out later that those good looks and smooth facade they show for awhile comes down and you then have to deal with "the REAL personality and substance of that guy." And with Jake this shows the REAL HIM, these words and actions as follows..............................................................................................................................
"HOW DARE SHE UNDERMINE ME!" "BE QUIET, I'M TALKING!" "WHAT MAN IN AMERICA WOULD WANT TO BE WITH A WOMAN WHO UNDERMINES HIM!" HOW DARE SHE UNDERMINE MY JUDGMENT BY SUGGESTING WHERE THEY COULD MOVE THE BEDROOM FURNITURE AROUND ""AFTER I"" MEASURED IT!" WHAT A STUPID IDIOT (which is what it came down to) ASKING ME FOR DIRECTIONS, THEN PROGRAMING THEM INTO THE GPS!" Pitching it into the back seat in anger. (Damned temper tantrum but abusive non the less.) What a SELF-CENTERED, EGOTISTICAL, MENTALLY AND EMOTIONALLY ABUSIVE, CONCEITED, HIGH AND MIGHTIER THEN EVERYONE ELSE, S.O.B.!" (OMG, she was engaged to my ex-husband LOL! but that's how I know all about that type of guy.) As far as the lack of intimacy goes I think he either has a performance problem, is gay or he just used her for publicity by choosing her on The Bachelor because she was the most controversial girl on the show and was only intimate long enough to keep her with him a little longer until he got his "CAREER" going. He was going to dump her anyways. I like how at the end of the Bachelor he said he wouldn't ask her to marry him if he wasn't 200% sure he was in love with her and it would last for the rest of their lives now he's saying that he's 100% sure he didn't love her. ADD FLAKY TO HIS LIST OF BAD TRAITS TOO!!
To; Name Wlthheld, Accused of being a typical male? It's obvious you're a woman, that was the first thing I thought while reading your comment. Ahhh yes Jake, I can't understand why everyone is so quick to slam you rather than UNDERSTAND YOU "Name WItheld" say's with starry dewy doe eyes. You heard from some Rag Mag Show that she didn't even cry real tears? Well why then do you suppose Chris was passing her all those tissues to wipe away the tears that were running down her face? Notice he didn't take her up on taking a Lie Detector Test. He totally lied to her about what line of work he was pursuing, On The Wings Of Love my A$$! I wonder how long it took him to get an Agent and have him get him booked on DWTS? Now he got a part on an episode of Drop Dead Diva and another acting project I hear coming up. And this isn't some new desire or unplanned thing that just dropped in his lap since The Bachelor. He played the part of young Walker in Walker Texas Ranger years back. The Bachelor, was just a stepping stone to get back into acting and Vienna (no matter what faults she has) got used and in a down right dirty way, she fell in love with him and got abused and treated like crap. Just because she sold her side of the story FIRST before the Publicity Wh0re did (and you'd better believe he's loving all of the publicity, even the negative he's getting.) It would take a female who see's a good looking guy (and that's all she notices about him) fall's for anything he says or doesn't say, ignore all of his actions and his controlling abusive language and over look all of that, it's because that's the actions of certain women who get sucked into looks and then finds out later that those good looks and smooth facade they show for awhile comes down and you then have to deal with "the REAL personality and substance of that guy." And with Jake this shows the REAL HIM, these words and actions as follows..............................................................................................................................
Jake clearly has control issues! They were both annoying beyond words but her points seemed very real and he never denied anything she said about him. The whole "undermining" thing and "interruption" thing and the "i flew the dog out 'on my dollar' " comment just proves he is controlling and the goody-two-shoes he's tried to make himself out to be is not him at all! The tape measure story and the gps story are more reasons to believe he has control/anger issues. I never wanted him to pick her, i never really liker her, but if I had to pick a side I'm on hers. They weren't going to make it, everyone knew it.
I wanted to hide behind my couch while I was watching this. It felt like I was out to dinner and was eavesdropping on the next tables conversation.....I know it is in the contract that they have to do this show but come on...they could have tried to be adults but instead they were like the 5th graders I teach – impatient and immature. I hope they truly do go their separate ways and leave each other alone.
I agree with "jklkj". I can relate to every word Vienna said last night. I have been in her shoes. Jake is controlling, manipulating and a verbal abuser. Read Patricia Evans books, they are written about the "Jakes" in this world. Jake doesn't want a wife, he just wants a women in his home to control and manipulate. I would love to hear of his past relationships, if he has any. I somehow think he may have been so self adsorbed, it is possible he may not have had prior relationships. I do agree Vienna is spoiled and needs develop her independence. I think it is horrible how Vienna was treated last night on the Bachelorette, it was as though she was defending herself with both Jake and the "Prince Charming" Director. I believe everything she said and she has a valid reason to be so upset. Imagine falling in love with a man, that you think is in love with you and then all of a sudden out of the blue, like a light switch, he doesn't even acknowledge your existence any more. I am so glad she is as strong as she is and got out when she did. She deserves so much better. No one deserves to be treated the way Jake was treating her. Vienna was in love and simply wanted to be loved in return. Jake thinks love is to own, control, manipulate and demise. I strongly suggest that Jake gets some psychiatric help or he is going to be a lonely, miserable person all of his life.
Completly agree with you!
Wow, another woman who wants complete control of men. You agree that all of Vienna's interruptions where OK then? The only way you would have been happy is to have Jake just sit there while Vienna yapped her mouth off. Vienna is a spoiled little girl who, if she doesn't get her way, starts crying and walks off. Probably the same thing you do.
Although I am no fan of Vienna and she does interupt constantly, I really hate Jake after last night. I have never wanted to smack someone in the face as much as I wanted to smack him last night. I think the two deserve eachother. Idiots!
jake is fake! I never thought I would be on Vienna's side , seeing how she didn't seem to get along with anyone on the show or even in her hometown. But her side did seem sincere ( as sincere as it could be in her situation anyway) As annoying as her interuptions were throughout the interview, Jake had too much of a cool air to be telling the whole truth. Especially in the beginning he said " I am still shocked about it all and processing it" Yeh right!
They both demand attention and are controlling personalities, bottom line. no wonder they broke up!
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT, JOEBOB!
Last night I jumped ship and am now on Team Vienna. Something not right here with Jake.
She may seem immature, but he seemed downright abusive and narcissistic. If that was how he acted to her in public, can one imagine how awful he was behind closed doors?
Ladies, RUN. change channels. boycott his shows.
The show is fake, the relationship is fake, everything about them dating was fake. Yet, people still watch it and entertainment channels (that is what CNN is these days) still report on it. Praise Jeebus...
Uhhmm... I'd suppose that your post must be fake too, considering you took the time and effort to slam a "fake" show.
Well, with all of Vienna's interruptions I would have slapped her. No wonder Jake had to raise his voice – Vienna just can't shut her mouth. Let's face if she went to PEOPLE magazine first and who in their right mind buys her story that she had to because she new Jake would ? SHUT UP VIENNA AND GO BACK TO YOU HICK TOWN IN FLORIDA!!!
I only saw the end of it, but i believe Vienna.... she seemed broken like he realyl wore her down, yes she kept interuppting him but he seemed to really have another side he was trying to hide... when he yelled to please stop interrupting him there seemed to be something mean there. she just looked like she'd been through the ringer with him, emotionally ... i thought he was a mean, arrogant creep
Before watching last night's episode I didn't like Vienna – now I can't STAND Jake – he is a total loser, control freak, smug (and let's face it – not good looking!) idiot. Hope he goes away for good! Go Vienna!
Vienna is a drama queen (period). She was trouble on the original show and she is still trouble. She is the one that wants the attention – she thrives on it. I think for her to have talked to the tabloids because "I know him, he would have done it first" – is childish and just plain mean! She does not KNOW him! She is too self-absorbed to know anyone. IF she really wants out – GO HOME! That is all she keeps talking about – "no money, no home, no nothing!" That is a lie – just get up and GO HOME! And she is just plain RUDE! Why can't she just "SHUT UP"!!!!!! She made a fool of herself on national TV. She is a spoiled brat and needs to just "shut up" and go home! It is all about VIENNA! There was no chains on her ankles – she could leave anytime. She "hates LA" – she is just a drama queen.
I agree with Bob S 100%
did anyone else wonder when she said her hoemtown doesn't want her back? I would book another flight if I found out he was the pilot. He hasn't had enough air time flying to keep up his accreditation. They are both losers that are looking for attention. ABC, do us all a favor and stop!
I felt Jake restrained himself good cuz I was wanting to smack her and tell her to shut up. I could tell he is hurting over this. Vienna was acting to the core. She's a spoiled little daddy's girl who acts that way when she can't get her way or she sees that people aren't believing her so she has to bring on the crocodile tears. Not an academy award performance on her part. For those who think she was genuine, I have ocean front property in Arizona to sell ya! LOL
She wasn't crying when she was out dancing or getting her hair done!
Are you kidding me!? Jake clearly couldn't have cared less about Vienna's feelings! He is a controlling jerk. I don't think Vienna could possibly act that well. I agree that she (or he) shouldn't have come on the show to air their "dirty laundry" but, in her defense, everyone seemed to think she was the villian from day one. I can understand her wanting to set the record straight. The reason she kept going on and on is because she was HURT and UPSET! Jake kept telling her not to interrupt but he was so smug about it. You could just look at his face and tell he couldn't have cared less about her feelings. He's a cold, wanna-be-celebrity. I knew right away when he went on DWTS that he wasn't sincere in his "quest for a wife". Yeah, right, like you'd go on yet another reality show! If he had been serious he would have spent time getting to know Vienna. She seemed to want to support him in his DWTS thing but he was NEVER THERE for her in any way. I think he deliberately picked someone so much younger than he was thinking he would be able to control her better. Vienna showed him! I never thought he really "connected" with any of the girls. He came off as really phony and cold.
Jon, honey, you ARE fake if you're gay and you go on a TV show to meet a woman to marry.
I am on Vienna's side; Jake is arrogant and full of himself, and he wants total control. She is so much more a woman; she will find a really nice guy, someone to share her thoughts and beliefs with. Jake was selfish; look what his former girlfriend said about him, no one above mentioned he is a flat out liar.
Who cares??? The met on a "reality" show, and both of them want to get into show business. When are people going to realize that "reality" shows are NOT real, and that these people have no talent but have the NEED to stay in the public eye for as long as possible. Stop buying the magazines with them on the cover and stop watching the TV shows they are one, and we will not have to see or hear these type of articles.
Although I disliked Vienna during the Bachelor season and thought Jake made the wrong choice in the end (although I didn't think Tenley & he would have made it either), I do feel for Vienna after last night's interview, she seemed genuine and although she ran to the tabloids (& I assume with no job prior to her "marketing" one she talked about last night, she needed the cash) I still think she was the wounded party. Jake looked arogant and had that "oh please" look on his face as if he just couldn't be bothered and didn't care one bit of her feelings he checked out of this relationship along time ago. That being said, of all the bachelors & bachlorettes, to this date, ONE has been successful and that was Trista & Ryan, and maybe a few others that are still dating (not sure which couples though). But of course I'll invest some more hours towads these shows as I can escape and see the beautiful places they visit at least the ones I haven't been to yet :-)
Vienna is a spoiled little Daddys princess, do you really think Daddy will let her sink? come on, he probably got her a place in LA so she could continue her quest for fame. She uses the threat of break up and storms around in a little temper tantrum to manipulate and control. Jake ,arrogant? he couldn't even get a word in, the host had to tell Vienna to shut up several times, she had no respect or interest in Jakes answers, how can you make a relationship like that?If she needed cash you can bet her Daddy is helping her, how would you feel if the one you loves sold you out, she had no right , she wanted to be in the spotlight, play the poor wounded victim, if she doen'st get her way she will do whatever it takes to make herself look like that , if you can't see that, well... there you go. You like to escape ,just like Vienna, who constantly said on the show she WANTS THE FAIRYTALE... and when real life came and there was no more attention, cameras, trips, clothes, she showed her real immature self.
Most people saw a Vienna as pathetic, but I did not. I saw a PASSIVE-AGGRESSIVE Jake whom I really like acting out his personality. Staunch, reserved, blameless, etc. He, like Passive-agressives, is never wrong, is verbally antagonistic just to get a reaction, fears intimacy, blames everyone else, etc. And again, I do like the guy and didn't care for Vienna previously. Last night, I felt she was truthful, honest, on target and he was being passively but clearly aggressive.
WHO CARES....? REALLY??? Just another relationship gone bad, let it go. Both of them need to grow up and realize that they were used for entertainment by the world and the relationship (like any other) may or may not have worked out. People now-a-days need to grow up and let it go. If it doesn't work out, there is no need to bash each other (especially in the public eye). No one of them is any eviler then the other, some times people are just not a match to each other. I don't care if he did this or she said that. Shut up already, let it go and move on. You both (like everyone else in the world) will find someone else that is more your match...
LOL – we are all on this site saying "who cares?", but yet, we all watched it, right to the end, and savoured every minute. Admit it everyone, we are all reality junkies!!!
Enough is enough......can't they just go back to were they came from. Jake is gay, he needs to realize it and come out of the closet, soon. Vienna needs to get a mirror because she is too into herself to have anyone else. She is the only one who can treat herself the best. I'm over these too......lets move on.
I do not watch these shows for a reason; the main one being that they are absolutely stupid. However we are still bombarded with idiotic articles like this about people who are what? Nothing. You can dress them up as much as you want, but at the end of the day anyone who parades their personal business in public like this is trash.
That's precisely why I watch this show in particular ( I don't watch other reality tv besides occassionally watching the survivor). I watch it only occasionally but when I do, it's always hillarious and stupid.
I think people trying to "spot the phony" here miss the point. This is a fight between two of the phoniest, most pathetic plastic humanoids in recent memory. To me they convey all the sincerity of Ken and Barbie. But what else do you expect of people who "found" each other on an idiotic reality TV show? The personality traits that make successful contestants (narrowly defined good looks, an inflated ego, and a narcissistic obsession with fame) doomed any chance of a successful relationship. When is the "star" obsessed public going to learn that these polyvinyl people have no personality? Never I suppose. But then, the public got to gossip over yet another staged "celebrity" fight, so we all got what we wanted, right?
A "fake liar" would be an honest person.
hahaha that is true!
LOL – Good point.
That show does nothing but proves that good-looking people can be f*&%$ing losers too.
Ali was right!
Who watches this garbage anyway? I've never seen it, sounds like a train wreck for people with nothing going on in their own life.
It was poorly written as well.
File this under Who Gives a S#it!
You did, Luke. You cared.
By the way... Luke... I am your father.
Can you eat 50 eggs?
Hey, bro, we better hightail it. Roscoe's coming this way.
Wow! If this is real and I think it was for both of them I sure don't want to be in their shoes. But then again didn't we see this coming? The girls told Jake what she was all about and he's drama himself. I think they both like attention and so they deserved each other but to go in public and make us watch this? I felt sorry for both but again they made their beds and now they will lay on it. :)
Wow, Jake sure had me fooled!!! This guy is the Dr Jekyl and Mr Hyde of Bachelors! I think Vienna is right, this guy is desparately looking for his 15 minutes of fame. He showed his true colors last night...what a creeeeeeep!
Are you kidding me? I think he took more than he should and maintained his composure. She was childish, immature, looked foolish and was just plain RUDE! She needs to grow up. I cannot count how many times, both Jake and Chris asked her KINDLY to allow him to speak. She would not SHUT UP! This, to me, is a big sign of immaturity. If Jake had just sat there through the entire interview and not said a word – he would have still been the "better person". He had had ENOUGH – who wouldn't have reacted the same way. Then for her to start "crying" and storm off – GROW UP VIENNA AND GO HOME! (Oh, Florida does not want you either – so you say!)
I think he has some kind of attention deficit problem, that inability to control speking over people is a symptom. I did find what she was saying believable, though, and think he needs some anger management!
I agree Irene... I believed Vienna. If you're emotional and losing your fiance you care deeply about you don't sit there like s scarecrow! As immature as Vienna clearly is (interruptions) she had the raw emotion of a woman losing her love. She couldn't act that well of she had to! Like others, I saw Jake's true colors last night... and actually felt sorry for Vienna! I felt she was telling the truth. Jake treated Chelsea on DWTS like a child and was completely rude so I had an idea he was as pompous and self serving as he came off last night. A complete Jack–s!
Although I don't think Jake is Mr. Perfect, I agree with you about Vienna keylady.
I agree with Maria... The way Jake would get angry at Chelsea because "She talked to him like a child" (and this is after Chelsea has been partnered with two other stars who have never stomped off for that reason Jake gave), goes to show he likes his opinion to be questioned or feel like any woman has any sort of authority on a given issue.
*Clarification* He doesn't like his opinion to be questioned.
The only reason why ABC is producing "The Bachelor" and "The Bachelorette" is for ratings. Just take a look at the track record. Less than a handful of unions actually came out of them. As for Jake and Vienna, she said it herself from the start: She was in it to win it, to play the game and win no matter what the cost. Well, she won and look where it got her - and him. You know what they say: Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it.
Really? The only reason a TV network is airing The Bachelor and The Bachelorette is for the ratings? Who'd have guessed?!
Yep. They delivered the drama. Well done!
BOTH OF THEM ARE FALSE!!!!!! THEY WERE NOT IN LOVE, JUST ACTING!!!!!!!
she is stupid and in secure he is a nasty self centered ego maniac
Jake looks and acts like a serial killer! He's got that psycho, detached look in his eyes. Poor Vienna!
Jake may need to come out of the closet to deal with this
I can't blame her. he was smug and condescending. I think that the combo of her being out of her environment and needy of assurance/attention, caused his controlling nature/condescending nature to go out of control and became a cycle. They brought the worst out in each other.
The soundbites advertising the face off made her look back but if you watched, she was much more believable than him. I feel bad for her more than him... but they are both stupid
these two are whackjobs.. they are both drama queen, divas. and that display last night I think will hurt the show because hardly anyone ever lasts after the show. I'm sick of watching it when it never works out for anyone. Some of their arguments were very petty and do they not realize every couple fights over little things like furniture placement. I mean, c'mon, get a life you two. I've been watching this seasons bachelorette but that too is getting lame. Every season is the same drama, someone is on there who has a girlfriend, and now this season theres more than one with a girlfriend. Do they not research these guys? Its getting very tiresome.
Jake is arrogant,stuffy, full of himself and already showed his true colors with his behavior in practice on DWTS.
Vienna......only professional actresses can show the emotion she exhibited. I believe she truly fell in love with this monster and I absolutely can see him being a control freak. A woman that interrupts like that does it because she is never heard and it is the only way she can get a word in. I'd glad she got out of this.
If she is smart she should just move on now and start her new job and making a new life for herself while leaving this experience behind.
As for Jake....ugh....
I agree with this statement. Jake to me came off as controlling and bossy. I think he also was in it for fame. I can believe that he came off as unattached. He's engaged, but won't kiss her, when i the beginning he was all lovey dovey and acting very much in love with her that he would do anything and now to sit on that couch and say she interrupts him. She was trying to get her point across. What man that wants to marry you will not try to visit his family to be? He was never there. How to you go from being a pilot to looking for a job in acting. Get loss Jake, you showed your true colors when you lost your temper, if you were really cool you should have been able to sit there and be the real gentleman you claim that you are. You story should have been told, I'm glad she told it and got something out of it. Good for her, I used to be on your side until I saw it for myself last night.
I agree with jklkj. I've never been a fan of Vienna's, but I changed my mind last night. The emotions she had, plus the quick facts and examples, made me think she has been the victim here. No one could come up with those examples and specifics as fast as she did if they hadn't actually experienced those things and are relaying the truth. I believed her. I agree she was a little dramatic, but that's what happens when we've been in a terrible relationship and it's finally our chance to speak out. She knows she's not been a favorite in the public's eye and this was her chance. I have completely changed my mind about Jake - had he been a true gentleman like I thought he was, he would have handled himself much differently and not been so sarcastic and nasty. I don't care for him at all after this interview. Maybe it took two to destroy this relationship, but I have a feeling, Vienna took the brunt of it all and it's taken a huge toll on her.
I totally agree. Jake really showed his true colors last night. He always tried to 'play' the total gentleman on the show, but it just came off gay and weak. Now everyone can see who he really is. Can't believe any girl would want this guy. Probably won't now that the real Jake can finally be seen.
I completely agree with jklkj
Jake is a control freak. He reminds me of Tom Cruise (character wise) Had a Boyfriend like that once. I ran for the hills.
I also saw him go off at DWTS practice. I knew then what control freak he really was. He has a napoleon syndrom since he is short! Don't think he is gay just a masogenist!
Your comment is right on the nose. I really start like Vienna now. She is very true to the relationship, and have her hope high. Jake is very cold. It is not worthy to waste her time to suffer liek that. She is full of love, and energy, she deserve better man.
I agree, Jake showed classic signs of being an abuser. My husband would never speak to me in that tone and the whole "stop interrupting me" was such a power trip. "I told her where the building was." "I told her I had measured the room." Jake has serious control issues when it comes to women. I would not be surprised to hear that past girlfriends had the same experience as these type of men rarely change their stripes.
People who interrupt like Vienna are spoiled brats that think they are right and no one else's opinion matters. There was a reason none of the other girls on the show liked her. Its obvious now. If you want out of a relationship then leave. Doing the dramatic crying and 'I'm leaving' thing is just crap. She wanted attention. Don't you think its strange that her whole hometown is against her. That's why she said she would not go back home. She burned her bridges.
Any good narcissistic drama queen can show the "fake" emotion she did, I work with someone just like her!!
Personally, I think Jake would be a perfect match for Kate+8. They are both controlling, arrogant, think the world revolves around them.
The reality of V is that she wears her emotions on the outside. i agree with those who have expressed the feeling of having been in that kind of a relationship where you are demeaned and devalued as well as emotionally and verbally abused, that V has been treated this way. While I am not a fan of DWTS, I did see a few clips of Jakes behavior there.. and that ol' jerkometer started going off.. He is self absorbed, and I feel the reason he chose V was that she did not appear as sophisticated as the others, i.e. Tinley. Jakes radar went to V because his character is that of an egomaniac, and he knew she was head over heels in love with him and he believed she would not be able to smell his poo and know its poo! He got that wrong! She smelled it and got rid of it. Good for her! Jake the fake can join Kate the fake and they can make fake babies! NO, stop me now!
We have reach a new low for reality TV – adults acting as if they are in jr-HS and showing their immaturity....geez I guess the production companies are bored and had to dig to the bottom of the barrel for this junk
There's a reason why the Jake is single and always will be. Gillian had him pegged right when she dropped him that he wanted 'perfection' in a woman (by his definition) to match his being perfect. I felt sorry for Vienna. Nobody will ever be able to live with this guy.... beware all women!
Vienna was acting like a kid, not allowing Jake to talk, even I was annoyed too by seeing that, she is spoiled brat, and sure Jake wants to get quick fame too, honestly not to cry for these guys or for anyone on bachelor or bachelorette series, all fake...
Two words ... TRAIN WRECK.
Although I have to agree with Ashli that Jake appears aloof and that he appeared smug, I had to agree with Jake because Vienna just wouldn't stop interupting not only Jake, but she interupted Chris as well! I con't know how many times Jake dropped the "there's another interuption" hint, but Vienna failed to pick up on it and kept on anyway. She hates LA but took a job there? She is a drama queen and we'll soon be seeing and hearing more from her in the tabloids. As for Jake, although I won't go so far as to call him gay, I think he'll take advantage of his 15+ minutes of fame and milk it ad nasuem.
Vienna is insufferable. Jake did lose his temper last (something she claimed happened often) but, honestly, who wouldn't have with her incessant interruptions? However, her character was pretty clear from about episode 3 of the Bachelor an he still chose her; he made his bed, now he must lie in it, as the say.
I agree but in my opinion Jake wasn't much better. He was arrogant and trying to continue his good guy appearance for the cameras. I think his smug remarks would push me to the brink too.
He's not even my boyfriend and I wanted to punch him in his mouth!! LOL I think Vienna has been pushed to the edge, he knew it and was counting on her behavior on TV to make him look better. He's a lot smarter than people are giving him credit for being. This was just a stepping stone for him, we will see him again but I doubt we see Vienna very much after this year.
Did not like V from the start and but jake has always been a fake jerk from the start, harrison was a jerk last night as well. abc went to all time low, harrison & jake sold out.
"Surprisingly, neither one blamed the other for the Gulf oil disaster."
Duh ....... wasn't that mentioned in the article?? lmao
Will they both just go away once and for all?!! Put a fork in it and call it done! Jake is an arrogant closet queen and Vienna is a whiney sausage monger! I was so over the host making Vienna look like the evil one on the show–watch, Jake will have a coming out special after this and admit he is a sausage queen too! I think we just want to see them gone!!!!!
hahahaha Bob S you are so right!
I'm not a fan of either one of them. However, I do think Vienna showed real emotion and she's not that good an actress.
I think Jake is the one that is the fame W***e. I agree that we will see more of him in the future. I think he never intended to stick with Vienna, I think he "played" the entire show! All he wanted was his foot in the door. (acting)
I wanted to smack both of them last night!! :-) I used to like Jake but after last night, I have changed my opinion. He's MORE of a fake than she is. Just my opinion!!
It was a toxic relationship for the start. Vienna is very much a person who needs a lot of attention. Her own father said that. She used to being treated like a princess and when she wasn't getting the attention she thought she deserved, she turned. She accused Jake of being a fame wh*&%. I think when the cameras and the attention starting dying down, she couldn't handle it. I don't think she ever intented to get a job. She thought she was going to fly back and forth to Florida and LA on Jake's dime and shop and sleep in every day on Jake. No man is going to stand for this unless he is independently weathy. Even if Jake has money, that's his money he has earned not hers. He is not married to her. They both knew the chances they were taken, they both did it for fame and fortune. The fame and certainly the fortune didn't happen so neither did the relationship. i have a feeling this is over yet even though I certainly hope it is. Tired of both of these loosers, especially Vienna. So fake. No wonder Florida doesn't want her back. If they don't want her why would she think Jake would want to move there. She acted like a total idiot last night. She showed her true colors, as well as jake.
You are so right on....She came from trailer trash and that is where she should go back to. Jake was clouded by lust not love. She really played him. Go Jake.
As I agree with almost everything you are stating...Vienna is a pain and Jake is a jerk, why are you saying Florida doesn't want her? If that is the case, then please add Virginia to the mix too. We don't want her or Jake. When people go on these types of shows, they are asking for issues. Someone else said it best...Narcassistic. Both of them.
I completely agree! I think Jake's 5 minutes of fame lasted a bit longer than Vienna's and she couldn't handle it. She probably whined all the time about why she wasn't on tv and he was. Well he's better looking LMAO! Anyway, I think I would have snapped too if I'm trying to talk and someone keeps interrupting. I mean geez, give the guy a chance to say something! Well she got what she deserved. She should have never gone to a tabloid about their relationship. That's just plain wrong. Keep it private even if it does eventually come out, we don't want the dirty details.
Exactly. Vienna is daddy's little princess who thinks the world revolves around her, and if she's not getting the attention she thinks she deserves, then it's temper tantrum time. I agree with ComedyCentral. Everyone thinks Vienna was so genuine. Really? If she wanted to live a normal life, out of the spotlight, as she claimed she did, then why did she jump to tell all those intimate details to the tabloids. Saying that Jake would have done it is a weak excuse. It's like saying you hate violence but you hired a contract killer to take out your husband because you were afraid he'd do it to you. I mean, huh?
could it be fake? possibly. But I believe Vienna. Although she appeared to be a drama queen her tears and emotions seemed to be real. Only a women who has experienced the things that Vienna was saying about Jake know this is true. Jake seemed phoney. He came off as to perfect and aloof. I believe that Jake is gay
I really don't like the implication that being gay means you are fake and/or phony.
Why do people actually believe Jake is gay? Because some girl hit on him and he shut her down.
I say that about every girl that shuts me down. Lol. Its the only explanation. I cant believe he has to tell
people for the rest of his life that hes not gay because one girl hit on him and he said no.
If you are a gay man trying to play yourself off as a straight person you are fake and phony... just ask my ex-husband.
I was not a fan of Vienna's until last night. I felt that she was telling the truth. Jake was a complete jerk!!!!
*only a woman who has experienced similar problems would see that Vienna was being real last night*
this is SO true. I am all about team Vienna right now because you can tell how legit his frustration is with her. You can tell that she is DEEPLY hurt by thr way he speaks to her, and only a woman who has experienced that type of relationship knows that Vienna is DEF being the truthful one. Jake is a complete jerk. He clearly fell out of love with her and instead of leaving he treated her like crap. I swear, if any man i was ever with threw the GPS because he thought it was "undermining" him i would slap him across the face. Get over yourself Jake and realize we dont like in the 1800's.
Nice, CbGb. Because a classy lady would answer her husband's temper tantrum of throwing the GPS unit by slapping him across the face. I hope for mankind's sake you're single.
A new low for CNN as far as articles go... I don't mind the article itself but the way in which it was written is... quite sad, really. I understand this is the Marquee Blog for a reason, but this is the first time I've actually read an article that was this written in such a manner.
As for the conflict between the two... well... tough to say. I feel that both sides have dirt on each other... and neither is really the good guy/girl.
I think that we received TOO MUCH INFORMATION from their public argument....some things should have been edited from the interview before airing. It's too bad that they and The Bachelor Series have stooped this low to get ratings. It's pathetic that we had to endure this segment. So much for dignity and discretion. I think there is some truth to both sides of the story, though. Let's not kill a dead horse.....
Really? I think it was brilliant. Pure comedy. Perfect for a Tuesday morning read after a long weekend!
I think you have nailed it – they both have issues – maybe Jake is gay (be true to yourself) – and he just doesn't accept it yet – and we all know that Vienna is a person who is very hard to get along with – they should both be ashamed of their behaviour on tv last night – at the end I think Jake was waiting for Chris to say "guess what Jake how about coming back for another season of the bachelor". I hope neither one of them ever has a career in show business – what a pair of loosers!
it's a BLOG! i don't think it needs to be written under traditional journalism standards. relax
Sabrina, I think you need to relax... lmao. "it's a BLOG!"
I am shocked at the article as well. I was never a fan of either of these people but I did expected her to be the one with the mouth full of lies. If I were her and was treated like that I would have done the same thing in her situation. She profited from selling him out, BIG DEAL, it is time that men like him are called out.
I believe that all her interrupting was because she new that Chris was more on the side of Jake and needed to defend herself.
I always had a low opinion of her, but now I have a very different perspective.
I think she felt the need to defend herself, and she was right. Jake looked like the person new that he was. We have all seen what a self absorbed person looks like. I do believe that she was mistreated. Did he seem like a man in love to you?
Really? This is such low-brow drama, that I think CNN did a great job of equaling its merit by making fun of how ridiculous it is!
Like I've "always" said in a break-up there are (3) sides. His side; her side and then there's the "truth"! Honestly, is this how ppl find "love" amymore? Better yet, is this the kind of story I want to read on CNN? The only thing worst is the whole "Let's hire Spitzer" for a political commentary show!! Thank God I know I can still count on Anderson Cooper to step up and still give me the CNN that I had always loved for "real" news *****Rolling-Eyes************
I feel that Vienna showed a lot of credibility...out of the two of them I totally believed her more than Jake. He seemed like such a fake! Good luck to him finding someone to take that crap!
I feel Jake gets what he deserves...........he should have picked Tinsley.
I have just one word to describe Jake. GAY. Not that there's anything wrong with that..just saying...
The real winner(s): Ali and the other 23. Woo hoo!!!
I never liked Vienna when the show was aired...but, now I'm on her side and Jake is a real jerk!! I've been involved with men like him..ones who think they are perfect and do nothing ever wrong in relationships and puts blame on everyone else when things go wrong..Vienna is smart for getting out of this now and should of done it earlier..Jake needs to get back to flying planes and leave the media alone..Vienna needs to concentrate on her new job and hopefully she will find a new love and be very happy. You Go Girl !!!
Who really cares about these two boobs? There are much more important things going on in this world that Jake and Vienna. They both had their 10 minutes of fame so lets move on!
my gf watches this abomination all the time and i try to dodge it. i happened to catch a few minutes of this last night and one of my main questions about jake was answered. "why is he single?". young, nice looking, pilot and hes single?
the way he talks (even if hes 100% right by some freak chance) is amazingly gross. he bleeds liar with every word/movement
Man, suddenly there are a lot of Vienna fans. Granted, Jake showed some of his true colors, pulling out the temper the way he did. But can you blame him? Vienna acted like a child, interrupting him every two seconds and turning into a major drama queen. It's clear she was jealous that Jake was getting all the attention and media coverage ("I never had any voice in this relationship" and being happy again when she got to dance in front of the world on DWTS). I'm surprised Jake stayed as long as he did.
Personally I love this article. Made me laugh, as this entire story line should!
I understand that there are TV shows out there that are meant to be pure entertainment. I even have some very intellectual, respectable friends and co-workers that watch this show as a bit of a vacation. A break from reality. To give this story line more clout then it deserves is a waste of time.
Vienna you go girl, call his stiff controlling jerk butt out!!!! If I was living with someone for months and there was no hanky panky I would have done the same thing, to have to ask for a kiss, really? The way he sat there, his body language said it all!!!!
This guy is a total ZERO. It appears that he simply suffers from short man syndrome with a Tom Cruise (want-a-be) complex. Does anyone remember the episode that Tinley was meeting his parents/family and he had her jump in the pool (clothes and all) ? Talk about controlling, she really dodged a bullet by not being the last one standing. His self centered behavior explains " WHY HE IS STILL SINGLE " . Jake seriously, do the world a favor please do not reproduce.
This guy is a total ZERO. It appears that he simply suffers from short man syndrome with a Tom Cruise (want-a-be) complex. Does anyone remember the episode wheret Tinley was meeting his parents/family and he had her jump in the pool (clothes and all) ? Talk about controlling, she really dodged a bullet by not being the last one standing. His self centered behavior explains " WHY HE IS STILL SINGLE " . Jake seriously, do the world a favor please do not reproduce.
chris harrison sold out, time to shut it down abc
UGH – from the beginning of Jake the Bachelor I knew that this guy was a FAKE!!! He is such a plaaaa-yer. He loved the pictures of him as "THE PILOT"!!!! Always playing the BIG MAN with the 'high flying career"(???). Everything is what is presented to the outside world. Nothing else matters but presentation. Oh, he has so perfected this image. All an image. Problem is he plays it way too cool and comes off as cold and detached to human feelings.
Veinna – what a mess. She has come off as a cheap sleezy broad. Blond hair, dark roots – tacky. Now we get the tears. Buckets of them. She is way too needy and looks like a life-long project for a therapist. Daddy's little girl moves to mega high maintenance head case. Given her immature behavior and dependance on men she can't hold herself together with Mr. Standback – way back. Got to hand it to her for putting the truth out there about THE PILOT but she lost her case when she whaled and cried and stomped off.
I've said from day one that he is gay and he's only looking for publicity and to find a career.
I agree - way too much personal stuff being aired! But if I had to pick a team it would be "Vienna" and I never really liked her. Jake was so creepy last night, he looked like a totally differant person than the guy. But for me he started changing once he got on Dancing with the Stars. All of the TV attension went to his head for sure!
But here is something else I know for a fact because I live in Dallas, TX and I've seen Jake (without Vienna) out and he is not a very nice person. Also I think Jake swings both ways if you know what I mean!!
Cut your losses Vienna and go find true happiness you sure deserve it!
What a train wreck Vienna is....who wouldn't fall out of love with her? Immature, bossy, LOUD turn it off
Jake tried to be composed, but couldn't get a word in...should have picked up on her vibes long ago...apparently he has issues as well
I actually found it GREAT tv...held me captive laughing and being embarrassed for both of them...clearly they both needed the fame
YEAH, I THINK No one liked her in that house. We have all seen what a selfish B**chperson looks like V. I love this, Vienna is a baby she couldn't handle a real man anyway SCREW her Oh that's what she wanted.... He shouldn't have picked her anyway. Big teeth Horse Head no working Trailer Park butt wipe rode eating wrench.
After watching last night's broadcast, I could not believe how often and annoyingly Vienna interrupted not only Jake but Cris (the host). Bad form and bad manners. She would not have lasted in a 5 minute relationship with most men I know.
Oh please – do we all forget the episode of dancing with the stars where Jake was yelling at Chelsea that he wasnt asking her he was TELLING her – he was control freak from the start – why else would someone that good looking have trouble finding someone – and lets not forget the failing libido = at his age they should have been going at it like rabbits and she shouldnt have had to beg for attention!
Well personnally I watched the show here in New Zealand and Jake has picked the wrong woman. He should have got rid of Vienna right from the start, secondly he should have taken back Ali, if not he should have kept Gia and Tenlay and chosen Gia or Tenlay. I did not like Vienna right from the start...come Bachelor I think Jake deserve a chance allow him to chose between Tenlay, Gia or Ali...give Jake a second shot at this. If I was there I would be making sure h does get that second chance. Thank goodness Jake and Vienna are not together.
Seriously?!? Go back to whatever crazy/country you came from. We are all booked up here.
I wish I was not from this country now that women control everyone and everything in this country.
I wish I could go to a place where women were classy agian. I wish I did not have to see girls think Lady GaGa is God. I wish I lived in a place where women still believed in substance vs. shallowness.
Every employer has HR...and HR runs the entire company. Money rules the world...so women control everything and thigns are a complete disaster. PERIOD!!! WOmen are nuts!! Crazy!! All of you!!!! Emotional Nutjobs!!!
Don't get on me for being the only guy not scared of you and calling you out on it. Girls talk about it all the time how they can manipulate men. You are just mad that someone can see through the game!
Move back to whatever country you came from – because you aren't from the US and certainly don't deserve to live here. You stupid, small-minded, little little, disgusting excuse for a man.
come find me, and we`ll see who`s teeth get knocked out....bit*hman...lol
Bravo my friend, bravo! and yes, living in a country where women think Lady Gaga is god is disgusting. These are the same people who think twilight is a well written story. Please make it stop!
Typical.......you need therapy as does Jake. Maybe you could get a 2 for 1 deal. P.S. Call it a guess...but I think you are single.
Actually, I am a woman and for some reason I think you are somehow right. I do too, believe woman use anything but their brains to get what they want, but I would go further, I think Man are STUPID for falling into their trap....
Vienna is a baby
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