Pageant questions are tricky business.
There was the drama ignited last year when Miss USA contestant Carrie Prejean was asked about same-sex marriage laws, and one can only imagine how Miss South Carolina would’ve answered had “The Office’s” Oscar Nunez tossed her the same controversial query he asked Miss Oklahoma Morgan Elizabeth Woolard during Sunday's Miss USA competition.
“Arizona’s new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe to be in the country illegally,” Nunez started, as the crowd began to boo.
Woolard was surely weighing her words carefully, since the audience was getting riled before Nunez could even get the question out.
“Listen to the question before you boo,” he cautioned the audience. “Critics say this may amount to racial profiling. Do you think that this should be mandated by the state or by the federal government?”
Without missing a beat, Woolard answered that she’s “a huge believer in state’s rights,” adding that she thinks that’s “what’s so wonderful about America.
“So I think it’s perfectly fine for Arizona to create that law, and I’m against illegal immigration but I’m also against racial profiling so I see both sides in this issue,” Woolard continued as the crowd’s reaction vacillated between whoops of support and jeers of disagreement.
Regardless of how the attendees felt about her response, Woolard was the first runner-up to the Miss USA title, which ended up going to Miss Michigan, 24-year-old Arab American Rima Fakih.
Fakih is thought to be the first Arab American and Muslim to take the Miss USA crown, according to the Detroit Free Press.
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This will be fun. Has anyone actually read the Arizona SB 1017? All it says is that they will have the power to ask people for their papers, and it authorizes law officers to dump illegals at the immigration detention facility. How can the Obama administration argue with that? Who is advising this administraion? The only advantage I can see is a political posturing given the large Hispanic population, but if you ask the legal immigrant, they would vote for enforcement, so that is wrong-headed. I just don't get this waste of Federal tax money.
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What do you people not understand about the word "illegal"?
If the federal government is not going to enforce the laws then it is time for the states to do it.. If one does it LEGAL then welcome them with open arms. If not then send them packing.
I see two things here..
People are confuting the AZ with racial profiling, which it can not do. It says so in the law..
And secondly, people are equate heritage with race.. and heritage with illegal immigrants..
There hasn't been a single white person during this who debate who said they were in favor of the law because of their "heritage", yet everyone who is against it has to say something about it.. Why?
When did heritable or even race have anything to do with being a legal citizen of this country? They aren't targeting and deporting people based on their race or heritage.. They are deporting people who are illegal aliens.. They do this already, and nobody has said anything in years about the practice of deportation in this country.. What would some of you folks like? Open Borders? That is simply never going to happen, and confusing the issue with race or heritage because you haven't read the law is really ignorant.
The problem is the media and the federal government now want you to be someone else before you are an american. Your are mexican-American, Muslum American, Asian- American, African- American etc. If we want people to be American then they should be called Americans with an _____________ back ground. I know it does not flow off of the tongue. If we continue to celebrate diversity the way it is currently espoused by our government (see how you have to report yourself to the census takers) we will have split this country up into small groups. You are not made to feel like an American. What made America great was the drive of the immigrants to make a better life for themselves and to assimilate into their new homeland learn the language and not wave flags of their old homeland and while they are protesting.
Two years in a row. If the Miss America organization has sunk so low as to allow political hacks hawk their version of political correctness to force young women to lie or loose, I'll rather watch Victoria's secret for pretty girls and professional wrestling for a contest.
Actually, Glen has a point. Radical muslims are responsible for most, if not all, the terrorist acts of the last decade. He was only trying to make a point that is obvious if one looks strictly at the data. Arizonans are just trying to protect their people. Did you know that Phoenix has the highest rate of kidnappings in the world? You can thank illegal drug dealers and cartel. The state is going bankrupt and can't afford the overload of illegal people using services such as hospitals and schools. My son, a member of an Arizona Native American tribe couldn't get a part-time job in Phx. to help pay for college, because he doesn't speak Spanish. Is that fair? Oh La Raza. Natives were here before you. We are American!!!!
"Regardless of how the attendees felt about her response, Woolard was the first runner-up to the Miss USA ."
The attendees applauded her. Whats this "regardless" crap? Did the writer of this watch the segment or did he "glance" at it in an Eric Holder fashion
Does this young girl such a threat to the American people?? I just Can't stand people that judges just because they are different, explains much ignorance in this country....That's why I love my dog, she will never judge me and love me no matter where I'm from.
Really, JJ? Uh, have you ever heard of Sarah Palin?
JJ May 18th, 2010 4:04 am ET
They should never ask questions like this anything that has politics on it..is not like girls are going to run for office.
She should have responded to the question in the same way as did our Attorney General. The correct responce should have bee "I have not read the law, and since it was 10 pages long, I felt that by reading it might make me appear smarter than the President, Janet Napolitano and our Attorney General Eric Holder" The ability to not read what is in the law, before one draws a conclusion about the law used to be a basic premise that was taught by most law schools.It's too bad we can't find any of Obama's lawschool or college records to see if he missed this class. Same goes for his application to get into Occidental College, and how he got to Pakistan without a valid US passport since Pakistan was on a list of countries that US citizens were not able to enter. Somehow he got there and back without having to use a US issued passport. Could it have been a foreign passport? Enquiring minds want to know.
Have not these young ladies learned. If they want to win, they must give a marxist/socialist anti-american answer to these questions.
Is she a true citizen of the United Sates of America? If not she must abdicate to the first runner up!!!!!
its sad when a contestant loses cause of a ? that our pollitions dont understand the word legal or illigal. but common americans do . god bless arizona
I hope Miss USA has a successful reign. She's a beautiful woman and seems very sweet. She lives in Dearborn, not Detroit. Her question was about birth control and insurance. Has FOX News booked Miss OK yet for its shows? How about CNN?
Someone should kick his ass.
you are all from another country just like the new immigrants...just like me...its just that time has gone by and now you feel like this is your country...but its not see...because thier were people trying to keep your ancestors out too. obviously they failed,just like you will fail trying to keep these immigrants out now. back then the laws were lax and not effective unlike now. so you hide behind them now,saying you just want them being upheld and what not. but in reality its your insecure fear of change and something new. no one could stop the chinese,irish,german,italian.....you have all lost your empathy with your immigrant roots.
I would rather see the contestants pole dance or perform a strip tease than to answer a question that most politician's shy away from.
I like how this bunch of commentators think they're in the intelligent ones.
I only scold Nunez cause he's smarter than that. How could you possibly expect an intelligent response from a pageant contestant a) or a crowd at one of these pageants to be enlightened enough to at least let the question be asked? This is Miss USA pageant after all, not the Miss Berlin 1939 pageant.
I think it's highly unfair to ask these contestants these highly devisive questions, if their answers do, in fact, affect their chances of winning or losing.
It's obvious they are expected to give the answers the people want to hear, but why should they compromise their own principles to please others?
I don't see anything wrong with the question...would you rather they asked something vapid and completely uninteresting? I think it gives the pageant slightly more credibility. Plus, whether or not you agree with her answer, at least Miss Oklahoma seemed to understand the question, which gives her some points with me.
And as for someone of arab descent winning...good! I'm glad our country's stupid biases didn't keep her from winning when she deserved it. Not that there's even a point in saying this because I'm not going to change anyone's mind, but just because there is a minority terrorist group of Arabs, does not mean that all Arabs and/or Muslims are evil and want you to die. That is ridiculous.
"So she is an arab and a muslim...shouldn't she be wearing an abaya instead of a bikini? Such hypocrites especially when they condemn other people for wearing clothes that show the arms, legs and face."
Did she condemn someone else for "wearing clothes that show the arms, legs and face"? I didn't hear her do that, did you?
Are you a Christian of the Baptist denomination? If so, i better not see you dancing - and if you are of the female gender and a devout Baptist, well you better be wearing a dress or a skirt and not pants! ;-) There is fundamentalism in many religions, Gingski. With her entering into the Miss USA contest, i would seriously doubt that she is overly-fundamental in her beliefs, wouldn't you?
How do all you idiots spend your day?
That was a fair question, states rights vs federal. I do not see any agenda in that question and her answer was much better than Prejean's last year. That was exactly how Prejean should have answered it – as a states rights question.
Come out into the sunshine people. If you see conspiracies and hidden agends everywhere – it may just be you.
His question was about state rights vs. federal rights. She answered the question beautifully. But this is a beauty contest and I doubt their answers reflect who wins.
Hey, an intelligent answer at a beauty pageant! That chick sounds like a lawyer.
After reading some of these comments, it saddens me to realize that soldiers are dying for these ignorants!!
The crazy part is that those who are writing on this blog are supposed to be more educated than people on the street.
No wonder W was elected twice!!!!
You are welcome.
I was wondering the same thing about the America is for american. I would have hoped that when I typed that with quotation marks such as this "" you would have understood that was referring to something that was posted previously by someone else and I was commenting on it. But I guess I'll have to be more clear on that next time.
I think your comments and questions should be directed to the people I was referring to in my comment, not to me, since I mostly agree with you. But thank you for calling me a moron, I know you meant well.
And one more thing. All of you conservatives who are so up-in-arms about immigration, please, please call and write your conservative congressional leaders and pressure them to stop dragging their feet on this issue. The so-called liberals that are being vilified here are the ones pushing for immigration reform, right now. Conservative leaders like Mitch McConnell are literally saying they can't take this on because they're too busy with more important things. What? What is possibly more important than solving this problem right now? In the misdirected words of Sarah Palin, tell them to "do their job." Or at least stop preventing the president and the democratic leadership from doing theirs.
"For the crown to go to someone not even born in the US is such a farce. What is going on here, anyway?"
If you don't consider a naturalized and legalized citizen as a citizen, then what will do it for you? Blonde hair and blue eyes, right?
After reading (some of the) comments on this board, i feel like my four years of service to the US military might have been better spent elsewhere...
I don't get why many people find her answer bad, any normal person would be against both illegal immigration and racial profiling, what's wrong with that answer?
I would bang both the Arab and the Racist!!!!!!
Sounds like we either need to improve the education of our youth about US history, or we'll be enduring another civil war at some point to settle the state's rights question for the second time. State's rights end where federal law begins. Period. Without that, we'd have 50 little banana republics instead of one United States of America. Yes, we need to secure our borders...at the borders, not in the streets of our free cities. Is every citizen in Arizona prepared to carry their US passport or birth certificate 24/7 in exchange for the privilege of moving freely around their own city, state, and country? I doubt it. And I doubt they'll have to, if they're part of the new privileged minority: caucasian.
@ JOE I am originally from MEXICO and do know where I come from I am America too. I do work hard and I have my career. I feel Sorry that you have no brain. Just makes sad that coming from the country you hate your own people. SAD SAD SAD.
Let's be honest...the Miss USA contest is about hot looks. It serves no other purpose. So why do they ask politically charged questions which will get all sides fired up?! It makes no sense for a show about swim suits and nightgowns to get into politics and national security issues. These are not PhD candidates on stage. It seems the people running Miss USA believe they are something that they are not, and maybe have become a little too full of themselves by trying to get politics involved. If people wanted to watch politics that night, they'd of turned on some news show.
Well, I wonder what the Muslim world thinks of our pageant with Little Miss Muslim USA parading around in a swimsuit. Don' t they stone women for showing their little fingers? Where was the burka that is so meaningful to their religion? Wasn't there a female Muslim runner in the Olympics that was rumming covered from head to toe?
Will this cause MORE hatred towards us, that we made one of theri women BARE themselves in front of millions of viewers?
joe g May 17th, 2010 12:14 pm ET:
"well , this is almost as bad when people elected the muslim ni g ger for president. sad."
I served for four years in the US military (as an atheist, incidentally).
It is comments like that that make me feel i wasted my time.
If a naturalized, legalized person can't be considered a citizen (e.g., Miss USA), then what does "citizenship" mean?
I love Arizona SB 1070.
Illegal are the actions which are not in accordance with the rules.
So, why is there a debate? Wrong is wrong. Stop supporting crime.
You are helping destroy this great country. We need to secure our borders ASAP. Mexico sucks-Why else do you think all their people are coming here. They need to fix there own corrupt country.
I live 2 hours from the mexican border-and trust me, these people are trying to take this country over by flooding us with illegals. My neighborhood is so polluted now with illegals, Im thinking Im going to have to move north away from it all. A shame on the USA government. When you seek a job now here, you must speak spanish to apply-not every job, but its everywhere here now. The first thing illegals learn here is how to get medical-food stamps-and where the food banks are and such. They destroy our neighborhoods with crime , and drunkeness. I cant let my daughter even walk around the neighborhood anymore. So AMERICA stop bickering, and lets take back this great country-please. GOD BLESS YOU, AND AMERICA.
well my Dear,I'm lebanese and I can assure you that it's true :many Lebanese immigrated during 1975 for a reason : the civil war took place and it's normal to flee the country !!!
However, concerning Lebanon,be sure it's heaven,u know nothing about it or have never visited ,please keep ur comments for yourself !!!!
stop being blind by what the media in the West shows you..
For gods sake america – hurry up and destroy yourselves – your whining is just irritating at this stage.
It has never made sense to me that Miss USA doesn't have to be born in the USA. I think all of the Dallas Cowboys should be born in Dallas, otherwise how can they be called the "Dallas" Cowboys? They are just "The Football Franchise Located in the Dallas Area."
The Miss USA contest should be called "Miss Pretty Girl Who Was Onstage At Our Contest"
This blog is scary. Buncha Xenophobes.
All this vitriol over a stupid pageant.
The DIVIDED States of America.
Given the President's illegal alien aunt was granted the right to stay in this country (go figure) the immigration question is moot. How can you allow the President's aunt to stay in the country and deport thousands of other illegals? Ya think maybe there was some outside influence on that decision?
I disagree with the young lady dedicating her crown to Lebanon. If it's such a great place why did her family leave. We all know the answer to that question. If it's such a great place to live, why aren't more people beating down the doors to get in? If it's such a great place to live, why do so many people try to leave on a daily basis? The ME conflict has nothing to with it. Life is simply better pretty much anywhere in the West than in Lebanon or anywhere else in the ME. The USA Pagent folks should make it clear that she was not crowned Miss Lebanon and ensure she doesn't forget that. If she wants to wear a crown for Lebanon, go back and become Miss Lebanon.
Im glad the question was asked. This is what is going on today and why not get their opinion on it all. I agree with Arizona's right to check for illegal aliens. Many do not know what is going on in Arizona and the lives that have been taken by volumes of the illegals against US citizens. It is time we took back our country. You wanna be here? Do it legally and contribute something to it and stop syphoning everything out of the system.
So she is an arab and a muslim...shouldn't she be wearing an abaya instead of a bikini? Such hypocrites especially when they condemn other people for wearing clothes that show the arms, legs and face.
in case you don't know Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon..so?
well she's Lebanese,born in Lebanon and became miss USA ! the hatred u spread here won't change anything...
Moreover, Rima said to a local channel that she dedicated the crown to Lebanon and especially to her village in Southern Lebanon .
SHE AS UGLY AS GOV.BROWER. THE RACIST.
Everyone... get over the fact that Miss USA is Arab American and a Muslim. America is diverse. So is Michigan. Detroit has the largest Arab population in the US. She represents a lot of what the state is about – diversity. She is not a terrorist, she is not a threat... she is a young lady who deserved to win on her personality, appearance, and overall presentation of herself. She embodies the country: diverse.
Here's a way to stop illegal immigration *and* the Taliban at the same time – every illegal alien 18 and over, send to Afghanistan, Iraq, etc., to fight the Taliban. Tell them that".... When the Taliban are finished, kaput, done, wiped off the face of this Earth, we will bring you back to the USA and *give* you citizenship, and **all**(i.e., taxes) that go with it..."
Great idea, yes?
Honestly i want to know why we are all asian african arab or whatever before the american? Last time i checked once you became american that was all you were.
or is just me?
Arizona law, if followed by its guidelines, will not proliferate racial profiling. Arizona law states that only during a stop, or arrest for a separate offense, shall citizenship be questioned (this does not include other illegal immigration related offenses).
That aside, I agree with Arizona's law. I actually don't think that it goes quite far enough. States have the right to enact HARSHER punishment than the federal government on every issue, but this issue is taboo??? Illegal is illegal folks, whether its immigration or murder (no I'm not saying immigration is as severe as murder), and should be treated as such.
Hazelton, PA had the right idea when they started to crack down on renting to and hiring illegal aliens. But the Anti-american Cry-babies Lawsuit Union sued the city, it was a matter of money and the small town simply did not have enough to defend itself.
It's not like the citizenship process is hard people, we haven't walled ourselves off from immigration, so if you come to this country, do it LEGALLY or don't come to live at all.
I could not help but think that, regardless of what happened during the "pageant," the outcome was determined by Trump and Trump alone based on his itty bitty little picker. The ultimate "winner" was in no way the best of the batch; she was a silly, childish, ridiculously over-the-top hip swiveling runway model. Her dress fit her so poorly that there was 2" of room in the top for her boobs to slop around in. I could not believe that she came out as the winner. I had her pegged as 4th runner up based on the answer to her judge's question. What a joke!!!
Most of you people are f uck ing idiots. Tell you what- go get some real problems. Have a parent who is ill or a child who is disabled. Walk in those shoes for awhile and then you will realize what is important and what is bullsh it. Until then, take your anti-liberal or anti-conservative rhetoric and shove it up your a ss.
ItzJusWrong: I presume that, when you say that "America is for Americans" that you are of Native American descent. Otherwise, your ancestors were also immigrants to this country sometime in the past 400 years and, more likely, in the past 100 years or less.
They should never ask questions like this anything that has politics on it..is not like girls are going to run for office. Everyone has their own opinion and you could see that the question cost her the crown.
US didn't have immigration laws because there wasn't as much people coming in..eventually they had to put order because Mexicans were coming in like flies. Now and is not the only country US has laws. Law is the law,if illegals could respect European and Asia immigration Law why they can't respect US. I did and I'm glad I did.
And is not a Human Right if it was a HR no country would have immigration laws,they need to go back to their country and demand their own Gov for their rights.
John S, the problem is that THIS blog page has like 400 posts from ONE person named Glenn.
I can see this question being asked to a Supreme Court nominee. Not sure what answer he was looking for from a beauty pageant contestant. If he was looking for a clear-cut answer given with poise it looks like Woolard did a good job.
Congratulations to beauty from the ancient world of Lebanon!
BTW, Lebanese people are not Arab. Lebanon is highly multicultural and unless she wants to be called an Arab, do not call her an arab. She was born in Lebanon so she is Lebanese-American.
Some very skilled Web master designed blog pages on CNN.com to display with all comments. This page loaded in my Web browser for 25-30 seconds, because all comments make it 718kB in size, and all I wanted to read was the blog post, not comments.
Does CNN.com's Web design team know the notion of "paging"?
"I thought if you were born in America, you were AMERICAN ... NOT Arab-American or African-American or Mexican-American ... If you want your race stated before your birth place, maybe you don't belong in AMERICA"
Interestingly, most of us who are referred to by a hyphenated label do not label ourselves. I and many of my friends consider ourselves American before anything else, yet the first question I get asked in a social situation is, "Where are you from?" People who continue to add a racial prefix to 'American' when referring to an American who did not descend from Western European genetic stock stand contrary to American values of equality and citizenship.
It is interesting that so many people on this forum refer to this young woman negatively, as if she took the crown from an American citizen.when she is in fact a naturalized citizen.
What's the news about? A Barby doll said something about an immigration law? Who cares? Are you people unable to think for yourselves? I'll downgrade the CNN's rating...
You dared me.
glenn was the goofy kid who ate clay in kindergarten
"he's hopelss AND hopless haha"
Yes, folks – in the liberal world, reno is a GENIUS
Micheal was a while ago!! You know, to some people of a certain educational background, 'drivel' is a normal word. Explains why you don't recognize it. (Look it up)
""What I want to know is why, in 2010, are we still parading around women like cattle and judging them?"""
If women did not try out for these 'contests,' then they wouldn't be taking place. The blame falls solely on the women.
I am NOT posting as anyone else, I assure you. Who's Micheal?
he's hopelss AND hopless haha
BTW, Frank, you're too stupid to have noticed that both your friends LEFT.
HEY GUYS.............. Glenn is also posting as Cliff and as Michael.............. they all like the word "drivel" :p :p ,,,,,, this is the funniest thing ever........... he's a hopless cause. see you all.
Yeah, Frank, I'M the loser. If you claim to have understood ANYTHING those twits said, the loser is YOU!!
hey lenlib and jkp, glenn's obviously too stupid to understand your points which were very clear to me and will be to everyone else. I see you guys weren't kidding about him being on here ALL NIGHT,, his first comment was 7 hours ago and they haven't stopped....LMFAO at this loser.
Detroit04 is back! How you doin' buddy?
Glenn, i just sodomized your mom.
Glenn, I think he "double-driveled" on more than one occasion.
And to all a good night.
May Conservatives sleep well knowing they provided food and shelter for those too lazy to work and may liberals get a grip on their "guilt trip" placed upon them by their party wackos!
How wonderful for you.
By the way, i have to the good fortune of living in a very diverse community, which, among many others, includes a number of muslim families. They are all wonderful people - family-oriented, kind and hard-working. We share meals, our kids play together and we enjoy being neighbors.
"Those, like this Glenn fellow, who label all within a paritcular group as bad or evil, are simply obnoxious, unintelligent and lonely."
So, lenelb does in her third sentence what she condemns in her second. We call that a hypocrite, lenelb. Please explain to me what 'point' JKP made, since he seemed to be speaking in drivel.
Kudos to your point jkb. I think most rational people will agree that 99% of any group are not evil, be it muslims or anyone else. Those, like this Glenn fellow, who label all within a paritcular group as bad or evil, are simply obnoxious, unintelligent and lonely.
jkp, just curious.
Out of the 99% of muslims that are "good people" how many are close friends of yours?
El zippo you say?
What I thought...you speak from "deep" experience with them.
Ofcourse, we all know it isn't experience. It is the liberal "feel-goody" guilt feeling all you libs carry.
...and JKP flees in terror.
beth – you're not Al's wife are you? WATCH OUT!! HE"S GOT A BAT!!
night beth, im out too
haha you're welcome jkp, goodnight :)
I read that Italians are Latin, what makes them, Latinos or what. They also look like latinos. I remember when I was in Italy in the US Army, loading a truck with parachutes, and a resident from Levarno woking at the depot called out to me and said venge paraka para que me carge, he said so fast that I could not understand him. I asked him to slow down, and then I understood what he said, and he said (COME OVER HERE SO YOU CAN LOAD ME UP), HE SAID THIS IN SPANISH. I felt good to be among a fellow Spanish Speaking Italiano Pisan. In My Spanish it is Pisano, which means also in Mexico Fellow Countryman. What a small World.
Apparently not Beth :p and thanks
JKP, good one! :) my husband and i haven't laughed this hard in ages reading glenn's comments,,, does he have any idea at all how much of a fool he's making of himself?
Actually, I've found most people with the initials JKP are idiotic tools. Where did you get the figures on this "99%"?
Let me get your impressions here JKP:
"May 17th, 2010 7:30 pm ET
Joan- Im sure she's about 6,000,000 times more attractive than you are. (shaking head) ahahaha"
[a] hateful [b] not hateful?
"May 17th, 2010 10:35 pm ET
Just glad to see the question tossed to her so she could be eliminated as the uninformed woman she apparently is. I thought she had the most star quality at first, but came off sounding like a typical right-wing hick."
[a] hateful [b] not hateful
Apparently my 'hate' was not the acceptable hate. Next time I'll be sure to hate the right groups so you'll all like me.
What happened to the brains portion of these pageants?
By the way, President Obama was born in the state of Hawaii. One of the requirements to be the president is to be a natural-born citizen.
you've asked for everything you've gotten glenn. maybe you should be more careful about spewing all kinds of hate on a public forum. you say that all muslims are terrorists, but are completely oblivious to the fact that a relative few muslims are terrorists and 99 plus percent of them are good people. Just because one Glenn is an ignorant hateful person doesn't mean that all Glenns are. Most Glenns are great guys.
Head moron melissat weighs in! The only hate expressed here tonight has been towards me.
What a bunch of self-righteous drivel.
From everything I've read from all these people, the only moron here is you Glenn. Maybe if you weren't so hateful towards entire groups of people you wouldn't have brought this on yourself.
It was a fair question, her answer was, yes and no. You can't have it both ways. If her skin was brown, I wonder what her answer would have been. I hope Miss USA stays away from Aridzona, If I were a cop I'd pull her over, just to get a closer look at such a beautiful creation, and our MISS USA, I love it.
Settle down, people... It's a beauty pageant (regardless of what they may call it now). The young lady won because, well, geez, have you LOOKED at her? She's gorgeous. And I had to laugh at some folks insisting that the Miss USA winner must be born in the USA - These girls aren't running for president, dude. Who cares?
Reno!! What is this, a moron convention?
holy crap how many comments has glenn put on here, like 300?? the guy's racist and doesn't quit yapping.
Oh no!! Now Robby won't be my friend *sob*. Don't worry Rob – you make me sick, too.
Don't try to kiss up to me Glenn. You're one of the people who make me sick to my stomach. And unlike the others, you just keep talking.
I'm with you, Rob – some of these people make me sick!!
After reading a lot of these comments; I am sick to my stomach! We are all children of this planet, and had no choice in which country we were born. Many who commented here, should really be ashamed to call themselves Americans.....I am ashamed of my country having people like this in it, who don't deserve the freedom offered here. WE ARE NOT ALL HATERS! WE ALL MUST STAND BEFORE GOD SOMEDAY and ANSWER FOR OUR BEHAVIOR!
Way to go MISS USA.....I bet your prouder than most on here that are making rude comments, to be AMERICAN!
She may be kind of purdy
and have a little color
but let me ask you this
would you let her marry your brother?
She needs an extra suitcase
when she goes away
to carry that muslim rug
to kneel on when she prays.
allah this and allah that
from her lips the words do pour
but when it comes to islam
I just don't need any more!
Now stephanie inserts her moronic comment for the night! Hi steph!
Am I allowed to comment on the Miss USA article or do I have to add my vote for Glenn being a moron? Just let him keep talking, it's actually funnier than anything on TV. lmfao
I don't care about how she answered the question. Her opinion is her opinion. But why can't these women answer questions intelligently and articulately? States don't "create" laws, they pass laws. I always thought these pageants were about beauty and brains. I mean, I understand its probably nerve racking for these women to answer these questions on national television, but shouldn't they be used to it and prepared for it?
Katherine, you must be Al's daughter (mistress?) Let's go over my horrible quotes, shall we?
"Why don't Muslims try being more grown up" They burned buildings and killed people over cartoons. In Denmark.
"30-second Fox news blurbs did not convince me that Muslims are violent jihadists. The violent Muslim jihadists convinced me of that." Pretty self-explanatory. Muslim after Muslim after Muslim kills people – gee, what ties them all together?
"Maybe if the Muslims didn't fight like old women in dresses" They had the numbers and the arms during the Six Day War, and they STILL got beat. Indisputable history.
"Ohh, Mohammad's looking for his favorite goat" I only meant that Mohammad was nice to animals.
Too funny guys. Glenn you really should just stop talking. No matter how hard you try to spin things, your quotes speak for themselves. They're in black and white for everyone to see. I can handle annoying. And I can handle hateful. But annoying AND hateful at the same time?
Now sal piles on! Hi sal!! Obviously, the ignorant donkey here seems to be you. Al's the nice guy??? He ran when he couldn't come up with a cogent argument, after dreaming about me going around beating random people. I pointed out the overwhelming Muslim involvement in international terror, and that's being a bigot? Sorry if being right offends, sal – I can't help that. You must be Al's other brother.
glenn needs to quit acting like an ignorant jacka$$. i read his comments from the beginning and he's an out and out bigot who hates all muslims, and was attacking posters from the start. these are some of his first comments...................... "Why don't Muslims try being more grown up" ............ "30-second Fox news blurbs did not convince me that Muslims are violent jihadists. The violent Muslim jihadists convinced me of that." ....... "Maybe if the Muslims didn't fight like old women in dresses" ........... "Ohh, Mohammad's looking for his favorite goat". Anyway, obviously this guy doesn't understand that there are bad people in every religion but that most people are good and decent, and that includes muslims. but glenn obviously wants to label an entire group as evil. that's just pure ignorance. Its very very clear who caused all the trouble on here and it definitely was not albert, the nice guy he was attacking.
I can't help but think the winner of this contest has a strong resemblance to Mr Trumps wife. Mr. Trump likes international women.
Thank you, Jaynie, for making the fine distinction.
Glenn, you need to stop this nonsense. I did not call you anything. I was referring to your ACTIONS (not you) as being pathetic. I'll keep what I think of you to myself.
Wow – I'm supposed to be the immature one. JKP just HAS to keep things going.
How do they back Albert? Al accuses me of roaming the streets with a bat beating people! What did I say to get that? Can you tell me, JKP?
Glenn - you're making yourself look worse and worse by the minute. Those quotes from Albert you put back Albert, not you! He was making the point that YOU were posting angry or hateful speech and so was mockingly questioning you on those issue because you were harassing him for no reason. Give it up already. People have made it very clear how they see this. And I commend Albert for not getting sucked into this battle you've been trying to create with him all night.
Uninformed? She seemed pretty informed about States's Rights, guaranteed by the 10th Amendment.
Miss Michigan IS an American. She may not have been born here, but she IS an American citizen. But what is the true definition of an American? We are all immigrants to this country and the true Americans are the Native Americans. So don't hate on other people of different ethnic backgrounds or religions. Why don't you do a little bit more research on your family tree and see where your family came from! Let me guess, unless you are a full blooded Native American, than you CAN"T judge Miss Michigan for her roots. She deserves that crown as much as any other contestant. She is a beautiful young woman and i believe that she will represent Lebanon with honor, respect and dignity unlike past winners who have had issues sticking to the rules; ie: under age drinking, or racy pictures!
Thanks Jaynie, for not calling names until you...called me names.
Just glad to see the question tossed to her so she could be eliminated as the uninformed woman she apparently is. I thought she had the most star quality at first, but came off sounding like a typical right-wing hick.
To Glenn: I don't want to get into the name calling but when I read that post that said you've been on here all night and have posted over a hundred times, the word pathetic did pop into my mind, too.
May 17th, 2010 8:59 pm ET
You tell me. Have you been out lately with your baseball bat roaming the streets for gays? or Muslims? or women? Come on Glenn, you're obviously not shy. tell us
Yes, Bonnie, that was a very nice and courteous comment.
May 17th, 2010 8:31 pm ET
Oh those good radical Christians Glenn that picket veteran's funerals, kill abortion clinic doctors, but, I'm sorry you probably hate gays and abortionists too, don't you?
Even more courteous! Wow, that Al is really a great guy, isn't he? What are you, his wife? (Watch him if he's holding a bat!)
I am an LEGAL immigrant and it is scary just reading some of the comments here. The good thing is, when I turn off this computer and get out of my house, the America I see are my good American friends and neighbors.
I'm not going to "pile on" glenn but i read all of albert's comments and saw nothing inappropriate. And I read yours. His comments were courteous and in no way hateful. Yours were. From my reading, his only problem was with you being rude and insulting to him. You keep making claims that he's hateful, racist, violent....... but there's not one thing on this board to back up your claim. So my only conclusion, like the others, is that you are here to cause trouble. Just apologize and I'm sure all will be forgiven. Or just move on and stop putting comments.
The new Miss America is a non-American born Muslim? A Muslim.
Really? I read the story right? Hmmm
Left-Wing, Right-Wing....it's the same thing in this country. It's a false dichotomy used to keep us distracted. Both sides are owned by the corporations; the only real sides are the "peoples wing" or the "corporate wing."
Now Steve055 is in the running for the King Bonehead crown. Did you read anything else, Steve? I make a comment and I have people piling on – not to offer any argument, but just to insult me. If people could debate without hateful attacks, I'd have said my peace and been gone long ago.
LMAO at all these comments about glenn... i had to count how many times he's posted just to see if you guys were exagerrating you're not! he's been on here for over 3 hours and has commented over 100 times!!! (i stopped counting at 100 because i was too tired.) wow, i've seen some really annoying people on blogs but i think this guy takes the cake for the most pathetic person ever.
I think the question was very appropiate but the only contestan able to nail it was Miss Michigan sicne she's the only one with "minority-ethnic-background, lebanon" and any other contestan couldnt get it right
For those ignorants that say America is not for immigrants, remember that this is country of Immigrants, that if you were born here, your ancestors most likely weren't (thats why we have german,irish, english, russian, hispanic and italian)
me as an italian-american i even feel threated with this law because i look very latino and keep wondering if'd be pulled over by cops if i visit Arizona, just because of my look/appearance...
If everyone is cocnern about illegal-immigrants taking our jobs, then why don't you send those lazy ass cops and enforce the law and supervision within companies and workplaces.
I've been talking to Albert's new friends, Marybeth – and his lawyer, apparently. Yes, I, too, came here to read and make comments concerning the Miss USA pageant and was immediately subjected to very personal attacks which I was defending myself against, especially from a violent bat-wielding racist named Al. I'm sorry if I comported myself in an unacceptable manner.
She's a beautiful woman, born in America, and free to practice any religion she pleases. Why did this have to turn into such an ugly debacle?
I'm white, blonde, Catholic, and Republican. Don't see any hate here.
Um, I guess glenn hasn't noticed that he keeps posting and posting and posting about albert in the last hour or so, but albert has posted ONCE. I think it's fairly obvious who the mature one is among the two of them. wow i come here to read comments about miss usa and get some guy who acts less mature than my six-year-old.
Too bad she does not know Arizona law then she could have said that Arizona should enforce the laws they have then they would not have to pass such stupid laws. The law I'm talking about........every employer using e-varafy to check every new emplyee. It's your law Arizona use it.
Yeah, GREAT comment – "Your honor, I'd like to sue this guy on the internet."
Really good comment Dennis. Gotta agree with you on everything. I'm not sure Glenn is ever going to get it, but hopefully he'll take the advice that some of you have given about just chilling out. Goodnight.
Albert's the one posting his fantasies about going out and beating women and gays. He also doesn't like my "kind".
Oh, no!!! LEGAL TROUBLE!!! Who's going to sue me, the Internet Lawyers?
hey glenn you better be very careful about making comments like that. Look up the word defamation. i read all of albert's comments, and yours, and unless I missed something he said absolutely nothing racist and expressed no violence whatsoever. In fact, he came across to me as very kind and reasonable, and you were just egging him on. And calling people things like racist woman beaters can get you into a lot of legal trouble if it isn't true. I would suggest you chill out, go to bed and stop this nonsense. You are really making a complete fool of yourself. Seriously.
Miss USA, oh yes, that's a wonderful thing for little girls to aspire to?
No, Anita, I just don't want to be friends with violent racist woman-beaters like Albert.
I viewed the last 10 minutes of this show as they showed the last 5 contestants left – it was clearly obvious to me who was going to win based on her natural and vivacious personality – and I did not know anything about her background.
From what I've read it doesn't sound like this Glenn person wants any friends. Unfortunately, you see people like that on all these blogs. There's always that one really pathetic person being a troublemaker and trying to start fights and get attention. Well what I really came on here to say is that the girl who won Miss USA is really pretty. And she IS an American whether some of you like it or not.
Arizona called. They said it is okay if you never go there!
Some of you seem to enjoy "throwing stones" at Israel.
Don't be surprised if Israel says "enough already" and blows the Palestinians and Iranians to pieces.
commonsense39....Obama is 50% black....which makes you 50% smart! Get a grip on reality.
I guess human beings make stupid comments and hurl moronic insults. I wish I could be human like you guys!!
Here Answer was predictable. What is She suppose to say. These women are coached please. Why woman subject themselves to these kinds of contest I never understand. Beauty is a subjective thing. The questions there are more important themes happening. People that watch these kinds of shows are really dumb unsophisticated.
no problem Albert, we're all your new friends now. And if Glenn would start acting like a human being maybe he could make some new friends too.
How did they checkmate me, Al? Welcome back, I hope you didn't cry that much.
Why do people keep posting their gay fantasies?
I guess all my friends just check-mated you Glenn. So keep talking and enjoy listening to the birds chirp.
I agree, she's really beautiful. And since you all have apparently made it a requirement to comment on this Glenn character I'll just state it as a math problem. Glenn + anal = Glenn is an ass. Had to do it Glenn 'cause based on your very strange and childish posts, you just set yourself up for it. k, nite guys.
Gee, Sarah, was THAT what he was doing?? Wow, I'm glad you're here to explain these things!!
Very pretty... Good choice Ms. USA!
Good one Devin!!! It was a long day so I needed a good laugh. Thanks :) And Glenn, you obviously didn't get the point of that guy's post about you being anal. See, he was being anal on purpose to show you what you sound like. I don't want to be mean but you really need to grow up and calm down.
HAHA – I own this board!!
wow whats going on here? who's this glenn moron? does he live on here posting every 10 seconds? Too funny. He must not be getting any. :p
Yes, Devin – you sound like the world's expert on getting anal.
I appreciate that you're so concerned about my social life.
Haha you guys are hysterical about his goofball Glenn. I loved how he corrected the guy's spelling (can you say ANAL)... but then he posts this: "You're giving me so much ammo, Al, it's so fun to turn your idiotic comments back on you." Uh, heard of a run-on sentence Glenny? Guess you never heard of a thing called a period. See what being anal is like? Hahahahahahahahaha
I'm not antagonizing people. I'm just challenging their arguments. If that antagonizes, I'm not responsible...
*sniff* Does that mean you're not my friend, dsiei? Boo-hoo. I can't help it that some people can't make an intelligent argument. Especially Al. Albert Tucson is probably with Detroit04, and they're crying on each others' shoulders.
Probably right dsiei, he's pretty pathetic. He gets his kicks posting one comment after another antagonizing people. Lonely and pathetic I would say.
Glenn obviously has no friends. What an annoying pest. lmao
Waiting for the Almeister......
Come on, Al, tell me some more of your violent fantasies!!
BTW, it's "..you're just like a Muslim?" Learn to spell, Al.
Why am I just like a Muslim? I bathed sometime this week! Please tell me, Al!!
You're giving me so much ammo, Al, it's so fun to turn your idiotic comments back on you.
So your just like a Muslim?
What a bunch of knee-jerk whiners making comments -Do you need to see a long list of naturalized Americans who made an outstanding contribution to this country?? including Nixon's Secretary of State Henry Kissinger who waas born in Germany???
I work for the state of New York and you do not have to be a naturalized citizen to be a US citizen to
take a civil service test – did you know that???
My mother was a naturalized American which makes me first generation. I have the utmost respect for immigrants who come here and make something of ther lives.
What are you doing with YOUR life besides bashing others?
bearlyhome (May 17th, 2010 12:31 pm ET) said "I thought it was Miss America, NOT , Miss Muslim!" Could you be any more ignorant? First, it's Miss USA, genius. Second, Muslim is not a country; it's a religion. And how long have you been a bigot? Most muslims – like most catholics, protestants, jews, hindus, buddhists, mormons, etc, etc. – are wonderful people. This girl won Miss USA because she's a U.S. citizen and she's gorgeous. It IS a beauty contest.
BTW, roaming the streets looking to beat gays and women is a particular feature of Muslim theocracies.
You have to turn my words around to try and bait me? Talk about someone unintelligent on the keyboard. Try thinking for yourself
commonsense39 is living proof some people should not have children!
Your rediculous comments have nothing to do with the issue.
I believe even Conservatives still have a right to an opinion...though not too often at a CNN site.
There are some who do NOT believe there is such a thing as an Arab-American.
You could be an Arab or you could be an American.
Pick which one.
PC stuff is vile and perpetuated by the liberal establishment to divide American even more!
Christians did to the Muslims IN THE CRUSADES?? 1,000 years ago? Jeez, Al, I can go back to last week to find a crazy Muslim trying to kill people. Try and stay in this century, at least.
No, Al, I don't 'roam the streets', as I apparently do in your wildest dreams (women? why would I roam the streets looking to beat women? Are you a misogynist, Al? Someone once told me that a man is known by his actions and words). This is a pretty pinheaded thing to say, but I assume you're used to saying stupid things. Try to let someone intelligent have a crack at the keyboard, OK Al? No more violent fantasies!
Well, if you want to get down to history, Glenn, what the Christians did to the Arabs during the Crusades would make bin Laden blanche
You tell me. Have you been out lately with your baseball bat roaming the streets for gays? or Muslims? or women? Come on Glenn, you're obviously not shy. tell us
I am extremely happy that a Lebanese American won the pageant! It's about time! It kills me that most republicans claim that they're extremely "religious", but they're the most racist and intolerant people ever! Get a life and I hope that Obama gets a second term so that you can create the ice tea party:)))) Peace.
Is this appeasement?? I don't think the Muslim conservatives and radicals will be displeased but they will treat it as victory over non-Muslim country, considering the fact that no atheist or gay or nominal christian girl will stand a chance in a Muslim or Hindu country! Long live irreligeous America!!
All I've done, Al, is point out the prevalence of Muslims in the annals of international terrorism. Was I wrong? Were they really Hindu? Sikh? Scientologist?
What actions have I performed, Al?
I don't have to know you to "know" you. A man is known by his actions and words. yours speak plainly.
As long as you're sharing opinions, Al, I think you're a racist pinhead. But does that make me the better person, Al, hurling stupid, baseless insults. Why am I a bigot, Al? Because I disagree with you?
What do you know! Imagine the odds! Two intolerant bigots, here in the same place! Nice to know you, Al!! (Violent? Have I threatened or killed anyone?)
Your kind? Violent intolerant bigots. Why did you forget?
Is Detroit04 still here? Is he still crying or did he dry his eyes, yet?
My kind? What is my kind, Albert? That seems a racist statement – why are you such a racist, Al?
You don't know me, Al, so you can keep your remarks about my 'kind' to yourself, OK?
Doesn't your 'kind' say that America is a violent country already?
Oh Glenn, you mean there are just a few REALLY radical religious nuts out there? But not from other religions right? There's no doubt in my mind that if you and your kind lived in a country where the violence is more tolerated, you would be one of the first to behead someone.
I guess I only served because I'm a member of the "lower classes", eh, W.N.?
I wish all those ranting and raving against Hispanic immigrants (legal an otherwise) would visit the Vietnam Memorial Wall and count the tens of thousands of Hispanic names there. If you could afford college, or get special treatment by family influence, you didn't serve. If you were black, or Hispanic or just simply a member of the lower economic classes, you got a chance to kill or die for your country. That pattern persists in the All-Volunteer force today.
she's beautiful & smart not mentioning about the what she is..? im a filipino, im so proud the lebanisian language..,
I did fine on my SATs, probably better than you. It's a stupid saying was my point. Why wouldn't a cow remember when she was a calf?
Hey Al, try to wrap your brain around this – the Kansas City Baptists are universally reviled, as are the abortion doctor killers. Christians do not defend either of these two groups, and condemn them – the fact you brought them up at all shows that you really have to search to find them.
You're back! What happened to all those things you had to do? I thought you went crying back to Mommy after I schooled you.
Oh those good radical Christians Glenn that picket veteran's funerals, kill abortion clinic doctors, but, I'm sorry you probably hate gays and abortionists too, don't you?
Sad day when Miss America is picked just to be P. C. I for one think politics should be kept out of the pageants.
Also, to the fool who blogged white americans would never work washing dishes, bussing tables,
or even working in fields picking crops... I did all those jobs while I was working my way through college. So, I KNOW they will!
Why are pageants still happening? Can anyone tell me how this has a positive effect on anything or is it just T&A?
Glenn you are a moron.
she's beautiful & smart not mentioning about the what she is..?
The Oklahoma contestant gave an intelligent answer to a question posed. The Michigan contestant gave an incorrect answer to a question posed. Ding...Ding...Ding! It didn't matter, she still won. Hmmmmmm! This pageant is a money maker for the Donald to help keep him out of bankruptcy. It also provides a reason for him to sit and gawk at young, half naked women while prancing down a runway. Now, that's a meat market!
Glenn, I'm sorry you can't understand the calf saying ... I guess you didn't do so well on your Analytical Reading section on your SATs.
It means sometimes we forget who we are, where we came from.
Glennnnn's mom is also a massive d o u c h e
Glennnnn i s a d o u c h e
Glenn the Patriot. Go Glennnnnnnnn!
Know God, Know Love. No God, No Love. Love thy brother as thy self. This is a commandment.
America is full of bigots. Our population is just as uneducated and ignorant as the next third world country. With comments like – how can a non-american born contestant (who is a US citizen) represent the US as miss USA?
Prejudice is alive and well today. Sadly, most fail to recognize that we are a country of immigrants.
Best hate comment I've received to my face: "Go back to your f***ing country" and I said: "why don't you leave my f***ng RESERVATION" ... I'm native american
SHE LOOKS LIKE A NATIVE AMERICAN THE REAL ONES!. WOW SHES IS SOOOOO PRETTY BUT NOT SURE SMART. JA
Yes, Kathy, radical Christians have blown up SO many buildings and airplanes, right? (McVeigh was NOT a radical Christian. Before OKC, he had been meeting with – guess the religious persuasion?)
Why is she an "arab american"? Isn't she a Lebanese American? What is this, let's all give ourselves a pat-on-the-back for crowning a Lebanese girl Ms. America? I wonder what Keanu Reeves thinks–yeah, he's part Lebanese, but we never call him an arab–whatever THAT means.
The majority of the comments I've read here don't surprise me but they do make me sick to my stomach. We wouldn't be here today had our founding fathers not come here to escape religious persecution. The petty small minded people that seem to be creeping out from under their rocks in droves these days are truly frightening. For all the so called Christians out there, this is how you think you should act and live a Christ like life? I feel sorry for you. Open your minds for 2 seconds and see the beauty in people. Radical Muslims may scare me but radical Christians scare me just as much.
"..was a calf"? Still doesn't make sense.
"The cow doesn't remember when she had a calf"? What does that mean? Maybe you should shop around for some new sayings.
Maybe the Indians (actually Native Americans, Liz) thought that – good thing we brought muskets!
TO: itsjuswrong "Arizona are going to enforce the law. America is for Americans, not illegals. Period!" I bet that´s exactly what the indians thought and said when your ancestors came fleeing from Europe. We have and old saying that goes something like this: The cow doesn´t remember when she was a calf. Obviously, what you see happening in Arizona is exactly what happened before, now indians who were born here and live here long before you and me were put on reservations. But I rest in peace knowing that the destruction of America will come from within not from inmigrants.......any memories from Oklahoma?
They're not taking away rights, they're upholding the law. There is no right to break the law.
Awww – Detroit can't win so he reverts to childish 'mom' jokes and then takes his ball and goes home. WAAAAAHhhhhhh. Yeah, you would love to keep insulting me, because you can't argue with me. You can't even get your facts straight or even spell my name right. If I have the brain cell of a carrier pigoen, I don't even want to think about your brainpan. Ohh, Mohammad's looking for his favorite goat – gotta go!
I'll add my disappointment to those decrying the hate spewed here. To those for AZ's law just read some of the most hateful of these posts and then think that person might be an AZ police officer. And the more important point, it might be illegal immigrats now, but if you start allowing the govt to take away any rights, next time it might be your demographic.
And this country is worth dying for i don't think so.....For what...
@ Timmy with the immigration laws with the pilgrims, that was a whole mouth full of light and wisdom. I bet they wish they had a law then!
I am reading anywhere that she isn't American-born. So what are you talking about?
How is asking if the Arizona law should be a state's right or a federal right liberal?
Joan- Im sure she's about 6,000,000 times more attractive than you are. (shaking head) ahahaha
"state's rights" is what Strom Thurmond and George Wallace used to justify stomping on the individual rights of people with a certain skin color.
States have powers, and human beings have rights–anyone saying states have rights probably does not want to respect human rights.
Glen- you have the brain cell count of a carrier pigeon. I would love to keep insulting you- as its quite simple, not ot mention great fun. But i actually have things to do. Shame, its been fun. LOSER.
At least many who thought America was past 'racism' can read these comments and read the truth. Interesting all the folks who are so surprised. Guaranteed, the 'surprised' are caucasian. No surprise here. Just another reminder of who we are as a people behind closed doors of anonymity.
As for Mr Nunez' question – I would find it hard to believe these are random, spontaneous questions. I doubt the commercial advertisers would go for such a 'wing it by the seat of your pants' lack of scripting. Each minute is worth how many dollars? Seriously folks – it's TV! It's scripted! Not one word is random! You think Mr Trump is THAT dumb?!
Who were the judges who voted for her?? We know that creep Oscar did!!It's Miss USA not Miss Muslim...Shame Shame I will NEVER watch it again!!
This thread is the funniest thing I've seen in a long time!
Glen- wait... Thats right, i have them here. Loser
Glen- your mom called and wants to know what you did with her panties.
I want to go to Arizona more than ever!! Grand Canyon, here I come! Imagine a state that's illegal immigrant AND idiot liberal-free!
That's so cool. She's going places. Good job USA.
Nunez. is a member of La Raza?.....It doesn't surprise me.....The question from this strictly B-list actor had a political motive from the start.....Think he would have asked this question to a Latino contestant?.....
Let's be honest about La Raza.....It was founded on the belief that the white man stole what is now much of the southwest U.S. from Mexico to begin with and that anything that Latinos can do to undermine the white power structure's authority is fair game.....
That includes La Raza's tacit support of illegal immigration and vehement overreaction to any laws against illegal immigration.....the more illegals the merrier, according to La Raza, because it's reclaiming land that already was theirs.....It gives them more political clout.....
The laws of the U.S. don't apply, according to these guys, and their agenda is race-based against whites.....La Raza is way more racist as a group, and therefore its member by being supportive of it, than most whites ever thought of being, but La Raza members don't feel as if they have to explain themselves.....In their minds, only whites can be racist.....
So, to me, Nunez showed his true colors by launching that question.....at best, it was politically driven, ay worst, it was racist.....But don't expect any La Raza member, including Nunez, to admit that.....
Nigerian Muslims attacked the Christians and burned their churches – over the Miss World pageant! Muslims attack hindus, not the other way around. 1000s of militias? I think not – maybe a few idiots, not really great numbers.
How many Christian militias have blown up planes? How many Hindus have shot up military bases? How many Irish names were represented in the 9/11 attacks?
Not saying there aren't radical Christians but there aren't 100 Million of them. And the majority of Christians have completely disavowed them as being part of their religion. I think most Americans are smart enough to realize that most Muslims are peaceful people but also feel that there isn't enough done to alienate the Radical Minority. To ever progress the state of the World then the Peaceful Muslim Community will have to take the lead and not sit quietly by while these crazies hijack the entire religion.
I will never go to the fascist state of Arizona.
Now I look like the air-headed one - I meant to write "know" and not "no."
Well aside from the 1000's of Christian militias that reside here in the USA? There is the IRA- now called the Real IRA starting to act up in Ireland, there is also the Serbs who killed thousands of Muslims under Milosevic's watch, you have radicalized neo-Nazis in Germany attacking non Germans (Turks), then there are the Israelis who have bombed, tortured and killed thousands of Arab women and children, Hindu in India attacking Muslims, as well as in Nigerian christian killing Musilms.
I can't believe they still hold this archaic embarrassment to femininity anyway.
i guess the judges should just stick to whats your favorite color and why?
Maybe if the Muslims didn't fight like old women in dresses, the Israelis wouldn't be "occupying".
When you are such a witless imbecile and have no career of your own, you just get a job as a judge at a beauty pageant and ask highly controversial questions. Then the idiots easily mistake you for an intellectual and that's how you get your 15 minutes of fame on YouTube.
Somewhere Theodore Roosevelt is rolling in his grave for having wasted his own life trying to make a country worth perpetuating. I want to bludgeon every pageant contest judge in this country for being unapologetically worthless.
Why doesn't rich Saudi Arabia help your poor Palestinians? Too busy buying yachts and gold Mercedes, I guess.
And so "Zionist" as you call them should just be abolished and wiped off the map? And you think that qualifies you as a peaceful Muslim? Do I agree with our unwavering support of Israel? No but they have a right to have a sovereign country
There is no "Israeli Occupation" Muslim armies attacked Israel and Israel took the Muslims to the cleaners and kicked wholesale ass. That's why Israel is still "occupying" those territories.
MJ- if you want a real debate about rights, why not demonstrate on behalf of the hundreds of thousands of Palestinians that are oppressed by a brutal Zionist occupation for which we Americans support out of our paychecks at the tune of 2.5 billion dollars per year?
You can kill the human rights bird and the civil rights bird right there with one stone.
Well your stats are a little alarming considering there are over 1 Billion Muslims and if 10% are Radical then simple arithmetic tells us that is over 100 Million Radical Muslims. That doesn't scare you at all? That ratio is way higher then any other religion... What percentage of Christian would you guess are Radical?
30-second Fox news blurbs did not convince me that Muslims are violent jihadists. The violent Muslim jihadists convinced me of that.
Better yet... What is extrange?
Glenn- what is the preoccupation of Muslims. Unless you live in Detroit like myself or a handful of other cities here in the US where there are significant Muslims, you shouldn't be bothered.
As I pointed out above, the cartoon violence backlash-while unacceptable
happened in Europe and some embassies in Pakistan and the Middle East . And may I point out that 90% of Muslims in this world are not radicalized and did not approve of that behavior.
People need to quit watching 30 second FOX News blurbs that depict Muslims as violent jihadists.
Not to mention, 65 years of Israeli occupation and human rights abuses and our unending support of them does not help our national security nor does it help the radicalization problem.
What is an inti immigrant?
Is extrange that inti immigrants do not say nothing to this miss...
I still think that it is not meant to offend anyone but rather to shine a light on this admitted double-standard... I think this is an important issue and I think something like that stimulates debate.
Let's educated the uneducated.
First, you do not have to be born on American Soil to be a U.S. Citizen. If your birth parents are both U.S. Citizen's, then you are automatically a U.S. Citizen. Also, you can become a citizen by establishing residency in this country, as well as the understanding of U.S. history, plus the ability to read and write English, without having any criminal charges. I don't even understand why this issue was brought up in the first place?
Second, the Arizona law is seriously misunderstood. Authorities CANNOT just pull people off the street and ask for their papers. They have to be COMMITTING A CRIME in order to be asked for their citizenship.
born in Lebanon,raised in the US
First are you all saying Michigan is part of the United States
Second off why doesn't Arizona make all get ID cards with chips on them so they can check all instead of picking out a group that has to be picked out then noone could call prejudice.
Just an idea
Why don't Muslims try being more grown up so that cartoons of Mohammad don't make them go slap-ass crazy nuclear homicidal?
To all the right-wing, fox news watching, tea-baggers,
The source where you get your education from i.e. Fox news, The founder and CEO of that organization (Rupert Murdoch) is not American Born either. Infact, he dropped his Australian citizenship and gained US Citizenship just so he can start the Fox News channel. He now controls majority of the conservative media outlets. You have no problem with getting news from that source but you have problem with Miss USA of not being of a caucasian race. Shame on you!!!
P.S. Those of you Real Americans who follow Fox News, Wall Street Journal, Weekly Standard religiously. Please do search research and find out who the CEO of the News Corp. is and where is he from.
she was born in Lebanon
Hey, MikinAZ, try reading your own law. If anyone comes to AZ, they won't be asked for "papers" unless they are stopped FOR SOMETHING ELSE. I was asked for my "papers" here in Utah when I was stopped – I handed over my driver's license, which you're supposed to have on you anyway. If you're going to complain (with extremely bad grammar) about people from outside AZ commenting, at least get the facts right. Also, learn to spell before you comment on other peoples' intelligence. You might sound a little smarter.
MJ Lucky- As i said: I don't disagree with you on that. Its a double standard indeed. But we have less than 1.5% of our population as being Muslims in a country of 350 million here in the US. This is not an issue that affects us. This is a European problem where the number of Muslims far exceed ours. Not to mention, in the Muslim communities we do have (here in Detroit, Chicago, NYC, LA etc), we do not have the radicalization problem that they have in Europe. Though there are signs that could change. Though i hope this isnt the case.
At the end of the day, we have greater issues to face. To stir up our peaceful Muslim community by drawing pictures of the prophet is foolish and unnecessary. Why not find a solution to the more pressing issue of determining a pragmatic solution to the immigration problem without A) all the nationalistic hatred and hubris, and most importantly, B) without trampling on our civil rights and freedoms. Just saying...
Detroit... Can you please respond to my earlier post? I really want to know why it is so wrong for people to "Draw Mohommed" When if you go up 20 comments you will see "john" say @!#$ christians and that doesn't illicit any outrage from anyone?
Wow, she is absolutely beautiful! Congratulations to her. I can't believe how many bigots there are out there....but it's quite easy to post hateful, racist remarks when you can hide behind a computer monitor and no one ever knows (or cares) who the hell you are. It's about time the Miss USA pageant chose something other than a cookie-cutter blonde. Miss Michigan is lovely and exotic, a breath of fresh air, and a wonderful representation of the REAL diversity of America.
gtg ...nice chatting with you Detroit.
I'm really amazed at how much true predjudice there is out there in the USA !!! I for one don't know what "the answer"( obviously there is no one answer ) is to the illegal immigration problem but I do know that it needs to be dealt with by people with cooler heads than the "average American" currently doesn't have. I can say that "ship "um all back" is not an answer !!! I'd say that going after the employers of "illegals" and establishing a solid guest worker program are two big ways of dealing with the issue but it is also more complex than that.
I also think the fact that we have a President that is black has brought about latent predjudices that many americans habor and has brought out the right wing fear mongers to capitalize on those fears. Maybe in the long run this will help us deal with our inner feelings and come to some common ground for the long run !!! God Bless America !!!
Brooke, I agree with you all the way. All these people whining about this needs to pull their heads out of their ass's. And I see some birthers have come out of the woodwork again...get a clue you stupid conspiracy theorist morons...
As long as she is an "Arab-American" she is not an American! Take away the crown.
Detroit, then you should visit Lebanon one day, u won't regret it :D
MikinAZ-Phoenix is now the second highest kidnapping rate in the world-right behind Mexico city
so your stats are wrong-
Peopel are being killed in AZ by drug runners-here in LA too
Dont you think taht if even one amercian life is lost because of eillegals, its time for all illegals to go?
@ Itsjustwrong: Nobody said she was not born here it said she is Arib. Im labeled "African American" and Im not from Africa. Nor is my family. So get your propaganda correct before you spew out your poison.
Gotta go. Nice chatting with some of you.
I don't see it that way at all Detroit04... Why can't someone draw a cartoon like that? Why is it that the Muslim Religion should be treated differently than every other religion. I am not trying to incite or provoke anything. I just feel it is ridiculous that one religion is placed above all the others in terms of what is taboo and what isn't ... Why should everyone have to adhere to whatever the Muslim Religion says.. I respect the religion and know more than a few Muslims and have had this very discussion with them. I think all religions should be treated equally.. Can you please explain to me why you feel it is provocative?
Are the Mexican Students Ass Clowns for displaying their flag or is it just those with American Flags?
Good for her! Great for showing the diversity in America!
Oh Miss Michigan...you lucious creature...those dark, provocative eyes..that coy smile...a dream right out of the "Arabian Nights"...Gee...I gotta get another beer....oops....I tripped on a beer can and stubbed my toe...gotta leave the lights on when I watch next year.
@Unraveling: Thanks, mate. You too.
Regarding discussion: when the law was first unveiled, there were a lot of pundits who suggested that whatever the bill's authors intended, that its chief supporters expected it to come under fire–enough fire, even, to be a temporary measure–but that it would serve to re-ignite the push for meaningful federal reform. (Sort of a "see what we're pushed to? Fix it!" gesture). I'm not sure I agree, but it came to mind reading your post.
BESIDES, DETROIT, I only present facts-over 70% of the country is in favor of supporting our laws-why do you hate America?
to the other dope who think AZ law doesnt mirror the fedeal law-
the ONLY difference is that the AZ law is kinder-it eliminates race as a reaosnt o check citizenship-teh federal law ALLOWS race to be a factor
lest face it , guys, we all wnat illegals out-we dont need them sapping our economy (they dotn pay in the amount they take out), we want them to stop running drugs and killing AZ citizens, etc etc
they need to get in line like the rest of teh immigrants
America takes in 1 million immigrants LEGALLY a year – more than any other country
Wow if the pagent was rigged. I have to say wow, I loved it.
A legal Us citizen immigrant wins and she's of middle eastern descent. Wow with the AZ question, wow.
You did a great job,alot of publicity on this one. Next year its gonna be even bigger.
I think whatever if it was rigged or not it was a great piece of entertainment. If it was planned wow you really did a number on those
IF it wasn't rigged it was still a totally cool outcome. Either it was fate that this happen or someone made it happen either way
Its quite a huge statement .
Go Miss Michigan -soooo hot
Cedars of Lebanon are mentioned in the BIble
One- nope. But i live in metro Detroit ( Middle eastern capital of America) and my masters studies were exclusively focused on issues pertaining to the Arab World. In short, i have a great interest in the region, its politics, culture and language. And I am lucky and thankful to live amongst such a large Middle Eastern community. Not to mention the great restaurants! ;)
Didn't watch, Don't care. All these comments show is just how hateful people really are. You call yourselves christians, but you speak like radical muslims. Hate is going to bring an end to this planet of ours, and the devil is going to laugh.
Leaving politics out of it. When I first saw Miss Michigan come on stage last night, not knowing her nationality or if she was born here or not, I said she's going to win. I listed three contestants with her as #1 as I thought she was the most beautiful. Grant you, she didn't do too well in the question and answer department, but then this is the Miss USA Pagent and it's based on beauty. I do hope that she is a citizen of the USA or is in the process of becoming one, but she was to me, the most beautiful.
If you're an American citizen, you're an American. Your ethnicity may serve as a modifier–ie, an ethnic Chinese individual who happens to be an American citizen might call themselves Chinese American (as my wife does); that's regardless of place of birth. She was born here, and she goes by tat label; her mother was born in China, but immigrated as a child, was naturalized, and is a citizen: they're both Chinese American.
Presumably, the pagent is for US citizens.
In a sea of comments that make no sense and contribute nothing to the issue at hand, your comments make sense. Indeed...it's a complex issue that needs to be dealt with. Is this law the right way to do it? Like you, I'm not so sure. I think some sort of action is better than none. It has sparked conversation about what is the right way to handle it and has illegals worried about being in Arizona....that's a start.
thanks for the info Lokstah !
stb,ur welcome anytime ;)
I'm surprised some of you people can say this racist tripe and then think you are doing a fine job at raising your kids. Like really, people got shot up in the 50s and 60s trying to stop the racism you're spitting out now. No wonder the world is so frustrated at America.
and btw – the crime rate here in AZ (the reason some angry old white wanna be tea bagged got the governors ear rancher used to justify the profiling law) is the lowest it has been since 78. Oh and sorry people, hate is not patriotic. Many of you sound like that southpark episode, "they took ur jobs!". Somone posted if we dont like it here to leave – I say if you dont live here in AZ – stay out of our politics.
what a bunch of weirdos you guys are. I will take this hot Arab girl over any typical blond american airhead any day. F$#k christians
DETROIT04-DONT BE JEALOUS-NOT MY FAULT YOU LIVE IN SH-IT-HOLE DETROIT
MJlucky- while i have issue with the violent reaction stemming from the Icelandic cartoon portrayal of Muhammed. Your encouragement of people to exercise their first amendment right is unnecessarily provocative.
Who are you demonstrating to? The 3 Muslims that probably live in Oklahoma?
Thats almost as ridiculous as the millions of ass clowns that have american flags attached to their cars. Who are you parading this nationalism to? Other Americans? Idiots.
"Or perhaps all you who don't like it here would like one way tickets back to your homeland !"
Please. Are you kidding? Europe doesn't want them. They already had their bout with fascism. It's our turn now. We send these budding fascists back to Europe and Europe will bomb us...either that or we'll end up with another WWII situation. We're going to have to deal with them ourselves. They're a bunch of old dogs teaching new dogs old tricks by spreading racism, fear, xenophobia and god-talk all over the place. One would have hoped we'd have learned a lesson already...or even by watching Europe learn it the hard way...but nope. We're going to have to watch this turd hit the water and flush...there's no pushing it back in.
I thought if you were born in America, you were AMERICAN ... NOT Arab-American or African-American or Mexican-American ... If you want your race stated before your birth place, maybe you don't belong in AMERICA
I also thought that the Miss USA pageant was for AMERICANS ... but what do I know, I also thought that to be president of the USA you had to be an American ... same for governors ... looks like we are handing over our country and letting the media dictate it all
@mjlucky: "Wouldn't you agree that the reporting of this story has been incomplete and biased? Why doesn't CNN report that the majority of Americans support this law?"
(My previous post, with the links omitted. I think the links were causing trouble).
Well, no; I can't say I agree, not completely. It's not impossible to find reference to the majority opinion over the AZ law here at CNN (I did a quick search and found a few CNN links, below). Is national polling over a single state law obvious front page or headline fodder? I think that's debateable. That said, sure–there's editorial work at play. Any news source, whether it aims to be balanced or not, has to pick and chose what to report, and sure: the personal inclinations of the editorial staff can emerge. That's human nature–bias, to some degree, is human nature–and I don't find it offensive.
Thanks, BTW, for the kudos and the civil exchange. Same to you. A rarity!
What part of "illegal" don't I understand?
The part where it says it has to be forever.
Detroit, ur somehow right...
by the way, are u of Lebanese descent or something?
For what it's worth, a 2007 report available through Wikipedia suggests that Lebanon is about 34% Christian (4% Greek Catholic, 8% Greek Orthodox, 22% Maronite Catholic).
Another thing that is not being reported is that this Thursday is "Draw Mohammed Day" and thousand upon thousand of people are going to demonstrate their 1st Amendment Rights and Draw Mohammed to show Radical Muslims that no religion is above criticism. What does everyone think about May 20th and what will the reaction be?
Always nice to hear people that dont live here in az have an opinion about how our state should be run – when they dont have to live here and all they really go by is what that insane god talks to me glen beck gives his opinion about. about as relevant as that pinhead palin coming here in support of the profiling law. she may have seen aliens up there in AK but not illegal ones. if she werent so far north she could run in the woods at kkk rallies – same mentality and IQ. Speaking of IQ...these police officers you want to "protect" us here in AZ have a naverage IQ of 90 (thats just above mentally disabled) and you want to trust them not to profile – you are as naive as palin is dim. I hope that ms america does visit and gets to experience the great enforcement of immigration first hand and see if her opionion differs from the runner up when she gets asked, "papers please"
STB- would love to visit Lebanon. Heard so many great things! Hopefully the silly Israelis don't try invading again before i can visit.
You or your ancestors were ALL immigrants at one time or another. This is advertised as a "Beauty" contest not a "political" contest. She won. Good for her ! I wish her well.
Get over it !
Or perhaps all you who don't like it here would like one way tickets back to your homeland !
@Doubtfire The issue with the "lawful contact" provision is that while it on paper protects someone from being stopped purely for "looking illegal" it does not address the environment created by an attempt to ratchet up enforcement. As I stated in by previous comment we have a history in this country of police overstepping their authority if justifying "lawful contact". Unfortunately too often the argument of "a suspect matched the individuals description", often a black male or now a Mexican male aged 18-28, is the flimsy excuse used to justify stopping people. If this law could be exercised in the way it was written it would be a good step forward. While I hate the idea of being against something based upon hypothetical abuse, I think history shows us that abuse is an issue and can not be overlooked.
I visited Lebanon during the summer, amazing country, people there are so friendly,and the nightlife is WOW
mjlucky, I responded, but my comment is being moderated, apparently.
Ireland wants American protestants like snails want salt. (Apologies if you're Catholic. Regardless, you might have just blasphemed, in which case you broke Irish law. Ireland's notion of freedom of speech is much different from ours.)
Dear One- Yes, even though the highest position in Lebanese gov goes to a Christian, in 2010, it is very doubtful that 40% Lebanon is Christian. The confessional system that was set up prior to the civil war in 80's was not particularly accurate and today is completely unbalanced. I would put the Christian population below 30%.
"the president in Lebanon is Christian, unlike any other Arab country,
40% of the Lebanese population are christians...grow up haters!"
Yeah, but she's brown. They hate that. Alot. It means you're not an American in their feeble little brains...even if you legally earned your citizenship or were born here and have a birth certificate certified by athe governor of your state that you've shown the appropriate authorities over and over again.
Dear Detroit, yalla lebnen yallaaaaaaaaa!
Won't someone please explain to me the way the AZ Immigration Law is being reported? Why aren't the polls that show that the majority of Americans support it being reported?
after reading these comments, u still wondering why the americans are the most hated on earth?
Dear ONE- Yalla lubnaan!
Avram---> You sound like some AIPAC member, Zionist, Arab oppressor. Go away, your opinions are irrelevant.
Can Canada annex the middle-west and New England? If so, Canada, please do! Save us from this everwidening swirl of nut cases here in the US.
stop envying Lebanon loosers!
um, she migrated as a child and became a US citizen as a child.
That's the right way to do it, why so many complaints.
YOu can't help but be racist. You people are sorry losers. What
people are jealous cause she won. If all those arab woman took of
the burqas alot them might be this hot.
IT would be great to see alot of soliders with arab girls. Like it happen in vietnam alot of soliders came back with asian girls. The racists would die for that one.
I think all the negatives out there are gonna have a hard time seeing
the face of american change, its gonna be alot more colorful.
That a beautiful thing....Hopefully there will be no room for the negatives in the future it will no longer be able to exist on this plane as we move to light. Stop being so negative your gonna end up with a diease. You can choose love or hate as we change your choice. You wanta be angry and sick your choice but you really should try love and peace.
Go MIss Michigan ... your a gorgeous arab american
You = stupid, dumb, and ignorant (as in uninformed moron)
You = loser....sore loser, at that. The majority voted Obama into office. Man-up and shut up.
Why do you idiots have to make everything about your hate for Obama? This is about a beauty contest...and you start a tantrum about the President."
Dummy. I voted for Obama and defend him against all the conservatards all the time...since mid-2008 when I first started coming to CNN to annoy them with facts they don't want to hear. People like to post conservative talking points with my moniker because I make them so angry.
Nunez, along with others, needs to read the law. There must be "lawful contact" before police can ask anything at all. I don't know of any place where Police are not allowed to ask for identification once lawful contact has been made. Where no lawful contact can be made by police, an individual may simply walk away and say nothing.
Now, for a real argument on individual rights, go online and look at USCIS's new "green card" soon to be issued to permanent residents. It has radio frequency technology which, like turning on your stereo through your nice walnut entertainment center, can identify an individual from a distance with no lawful contact, or any contact at all that is known to the individual legally required to carry the card.
There are more important things to consider than Arizona simply mandating enforcement of federal laws already on the books.
I feel sorry for the first cop, just trying to do his/her daily job, who gets tagged with "profiling" by the media, ACLU, or some other shmuck who hasn't bothered to read the law before snapping to judgement.
the president in Lebanon is Christian, unlike any other Arab country,
40% of the Lebanese population are christians...grow up haters!
Out of the top five, I ranked her 4th in looks. Whatever happened to Miss USA just being the hottest? Michigan will for surely lose in the Universe pageant. Should have gone with Oklahoma.
Numnuts- well thanks for the giving us all geography lesson. Your so clever.
What kind of logic is "America is for Americans' by the way?
While addressing the issue of illegal immigrants, why is that morons like yourself feel the need to always add a nationalistic sentiment to the subject, rather than advocate a workable solution?
So while you puff out your 'American' chest and whine about illegals, once they become legal, will it still be ok with you?
I think the real issue here is not that Tea Baggers like yourself are concerned with the law and order like they claim. Rather, I think the main sway on this topic has to do with xenophobia and ethnocentrism on your behalf.
@Stopnonsense: "Nunez is another Perez Hilton. Why do pageants select judges who don't represent the majority of Americans? The crowd was deeply in favor of Miss Oklahoma's answer but the judges thought otherwise. GET RID OF LIBERAL JUDGES LIKE NUNEZ."
Thanks for the laugh, Stopnonsense. I particularly enjoyed the empassioned plea at the end–you sound, hilariously, as though you're crusading for a reconfiguration of the Federal Circuit Court system or something.
It's the Miss USA pagent–a private venture, owned and presided over by Donald Trump. It's trashy TV entertainment; a contemporary evolution of the Coney Island Mermaid Parade.
They populate the judge's panel with whichever goofy pop culture C-listers they like.
Lokstah.... Wouldn't you agree that the reporting of this story has been incomplete and biased? Why doesn't CNN report that the majority of Americans support this law? You are obviously intelligent and can have a normal discussion so that's why I am directing this question towards you. I respect and appreciate your argument against the AZ law and thank you for not calling everyone that wants to debate the validity of it a racist.
Ironically, all of these bigots fail to realize that Lebanon is an Arab country with one of the highest Christian populations (not that that should even matter).
I truly do appreciate those that are here legally and are willing to deal with the laws as they exist. However I think what's being missed in this debate by people that view this only in terms of immigration is America's still continuing civil rights struggles, particularly black Americans. The problem with approaching enforcement in this way is racial profiling. I am sure anyone that knows more than 1 black person knows someone who has been stopped for "driving while black". Once people are being pulled over or otherwise stopped based on race the rest of the discrimination is never far behind. While the majority of our law enforcement officials may have only the law as motivation many others do not, and see the badge as an opportunity to exercise power. Particularly when dealing with those perceived as less deserving of rights due to legal status or race, the jump to abuse power is a very real issue. Again I'm not saying this debate is one sided, and I certainly agree that being in this country illegally is not acceptable, but this method of enforcement leaves too much room for abuse.
You'd think after last year's stupid Perez (?) question those running the pagent would pre-view the questions so they aren't used to set up one of the ladies while tring to support one's agenda. This was a stupid question in the venue asked. I have no objection to who one but the question was way out of line.
mine!?!? shallow?? are you kidding me??
international politics?? yes, i know. there are many different political stuctures in the world, including the one right here in the USA!!!
simpleton, maybe. american, definately!!!
ignorance= native USA
@LUKE: Agreed; it was a perfectly valid question, and it gave the contestant–like the other questions did–a chance to navigate a tricky issue. In regards to the rest of your post: one of the other judge's questions (Paula Dean's, I think) was, in fact, about the BP Gulf spill.
yeah tell that to native americans,,,
@itzjuswrong- I couldn't have said it better myself. When are Americans going to stop whining and wise up. These laws are not new and I for one support anything that sends illegals home. Let them go through hoops just like my grandparents did to get here. I am so sick of these people from other places coming here and applying to all of our social services. No wonder this country is in such bad shape. Now we have a Muslim miss USA and Muslim President. Miss USA says that they practice Christianity and Muslim religions. If you are truly living a Christian lifestyle and following the bible, it has this one crippling rule to her statement. "Thou shall have no other Gods before me". I for one have been trying to go back to Ireland where my ancestors are from because I can see where this country is headed and it scares me. It takes over two years just to get citizenship there and then you must have a parent or grandparent who was born there. You also have to prove that you will not be a financial burden on their government to move there. Now that is a great way to keep illegals out. Bravo Ireland! America could learn a thing or two from you.
I don't believe anyone should have to "show their papers." I'm not required to carry identification when I'm walking down the street, so why should you be?
You raise a good point re: taxes, and it's particularly relevant to laws like Arizona's. Local taxes should fund local infrastructure and services, not federal immigration laws.
luckytobebornhere...My ancestors were indeed immigrants but they like all immigrants of that day were legal. Let me explain how it works.... If there is a law on the books and you violate that law, then you are illegal. If there is no law on the books about immigration, then you can't violate that law and you are legal. Get it?
Susan Bernstein.. I guarantee that if your son was killed by an illegal immigrant on your own property (which happened), you would be singing a different tune. The same thing goes for your son being kidnapped by illegals(Phoenix is now the kidnap for ransom capital of the U.S.), your house being burglarized by illegals(as happens a lot now in Arizona). Isn't it nice to be a thousand miles away from this and criticize things you know nothing about?
Nunez is another Perez Hilton. Why do pageants select judges who don't represent the majority of Americans? The crowd was deeply in favor of Miss Oklahoma's answer but the judges thought otherwise. GET RID OF LIBERAL JUDGES LIKE NUNEZ.
CNN needs to do better than this!! The headline reads: The first Muslim Arab-American Miss USA was the center of a controversial moment at the pageant. See the question posed to her that caused the crowd to boo http://on.cnn.com/coaGep and tell us if you think the question was appropriate.
Huh? Did I miss sumthin'? The question was posed to Miss Oklahoma!! HELLO!!!!!! Miss Michigan wasn't even involved in any controversial moment!! Fix your headline CNN!!
First a Muslim president now a muslim Miss USA who wasn't even born here, what a joke..... I say deport both of them,, along with obamas aunt.
Oh come on. This was a question that mattered to him. He picked a topical issue to set up the question which had to do with federal vs. state authority. Her answer seemed reasonable and likely had something to do with her runner-up finish.
This is an issue with no objectively correct answer. No matter what side you are on, there are valid arguments from the other side.
Also, there is an oil spill that is crippling the gulf of Mexico. Let's focus on real stuff as opposed to what was said in a beauty pageant. A beauty pageant. Just sayin.
I think Miss Oklahoma definitely should have won!!! She was way more pretty than Miss Michigan for sure! && Miss Oklahoma answered her question a lot better than Miss Michigan!
Oh yeah and didnt Miss Michigan trip in her evening gown?? Whats up with that??
MISS OKLAHOMA SHOULD HAVE WON!!!!!
Get the facts "my right honorable gentleman"
Obama was NOT elected by a huge majority...ending numbers were
I would say that is a just small margin...one in which will go the other way next election
If our governement will not enforce the LAW who will?
get over it....ur hatred won't change anything,good for u Rima!
way to go LEBANON :)
Going off of this article you would think that the crowd was completely against the law or at least split 50/50. When she gave her answer the crowd was cheering her, drowning out any boos. I'm not even necessarily for the law but the media is reporting this horribly. Every poll I've seen shows the vast majority of Americans in favor of the law yet the way it is being portrayed in the media you would think everyone in America is against the law.
@ itzjuswrong " America is for Americans, not illegals. Period!"
@ jim ",sounds like the AMERICAN people (at least those in arizona) have spoken, loud and clear??!"
America is a continent. Which includes many countries like Mexico, U.S.A, Canada, Colombia, Argentina, etc... So you can see if the "American people" spoke they'd most likely be on the immigrant's side. You guys should get a map, and stop referring to the U.S.A as America.
I thought Beyonce should have won.
@Guest: Correction. Lebanese. She's Lebanese American.
I find it quite upsetting that some of these comments are hateful towards Miss Michigan she is a beautiful American who's answer reflected her intelligence and respect for women to have a choice in controlling their body. Whats with this crap about "taking our country back" because if you want it back guess what fellas it wont because to do that your gonna need a time machine to travel back 50 years. America is a diverse nation of religions, rich in culture and if people are scarred of that well to bad.
The winner tipped it off when the show signed off she said ,Thanks for hiring me Mr Trump!! Thanks boss". If it is Trump it is oliy.
Michigan gave the most immature answers and acted it.
Johhny Weir a judge would have made a better Miss USA. He puts his wofe as a judge. He sits right behind the judges so he can see his hair on TV. Can only igaione Miss Universe because he owns that too. NBC shows again why they are the goodfy network they are.
America shows the world again what a shallow whiney mass we are,
Racists BOTH Black and White.
well, i guess that's what you get when you say the idiotic, stupid things to start things off!!
"Wow, the responses yet again highlight the staggering ignorance of the general public."
you asked for it, dipstick!! read a little before making asinine comments like these!!
ok ok americans, she is LEBANESE..so what??
The issue, as far as I'm concerned, isn't whether it makes sense for legal immigrants or legal resident aliens to be prudent and perpared to confirm their citizenship. You're right: it's common sense for any alien to adopt those practices.
The issue is whether the specific law intended to address this specific issue accomplishes its ends in a manner likely to impose or encourage unfair practices, such as racial profiling–which I believe it does, nearly to the extent of mandating the practice. I also believe the degree to which the law puts an already tenuous relationship (AZ law enforcement and the AZ hispanic population) in an even more confrontational stance will diminish trust and cooperation between those communities and the police, immigration officials, etc–not helpful.
It's a tricky issue, and work needs to be done, but these laws, SB1070 and HB2162–suck.
Anyone that thinks all republicans are racist are just idiots themselves. That is just showing how ignorant you really are "commensense" and you couldn't have chosen a more ironic screename.
Yep – the young lady sounds like the perfect political candidate: hit everything softly back up the middle, an' if yer pretty enough, or have enough money (or *both*; shux, it's the 'Murkin Dream, eh?), mebbe one day they'll muff the throw to first and you'll be on! Next stop: the first Muslim-'Murkin "centrist" Prezzydint!
sounds like another usual airhead to me
Jim- Again, what an infantile, intellectually shallow reply. Lol!
You might want to take International Politics 101 sometime. It might be helpful to know that there is not just one type of political structure in this world. If you'd leave your American exceptionalism at the door for a minute, you might actually learn something useful.
You are a simpleton.
Hey Doug. I'm a Democrat, and I'm not against the Arizona law. The only question to me, which will be settled in the courts, is whether the states have a right to enact their own immigration laws. If they do, then Arizona has the right to create immigration laws. If people who don't live in Arizona don't like the laws, then don't go there.
I'm originally from Mexico and I'm ok with the law. I'm here legally. USA a great country. I moved here to get away from the exact things Arizona is trying to protect themselves from. It's like Arizona is protecting it's legal immigrants from the things we worked so hard to get away from. Some Mexican-Americans like myself are thankful.
It's a wonder our Country is in peril...
Look at the mentality of our people. Seriously, just read the blog entries, no one ever has anything constructive to say. You people don't even know how to debate! Sarcasm and ignorance run wild in the minds of Americans today. It is a SHAME. How about...
Good job on answering the question! Who wants to face an unruly crowd with that type of question? Good job to the runner up and the winner wether they are black, white, hispanic, dutch, russian, asian, etc... . I'm so sick of people pulling the race card. Again, it's ignorance and immaturity.
@jim You clearly are in internet tough guy who thinks by not saying anything you are the "most profound". The fact is you just show your lack of insight and ability to conduct a real debate. Enjoy being worthless, nothing more to say.
and yes, she is smoking hot.
JOE – The New Conservative = IGNORANT (And wanting to stay that way).
I don't watch these beauty pagents, but I do know Miss Oklahoma. She is a beautiful smart funny young lady. I am sure that the same goes for Miss Michigan. These types of political questions have been posed before on pagents. They are meant to show the intellect of the contestant and to show that they are up to date on what is going on in our country. I do not understand why so many of you are so angry about the out come. Who gives a crap if the winner is Muslim? All of these contestants are good roll models for our young girls. Some may call them nothing but barbie's but these girls are in college and some do hold degrees. They are not just dumb silly girls. They show our young girls that you can be pretty and smart. My daughter recently met her teachers sister aka Miss Oklahoma and looks up to alot! She showed her that boobs aren't all that a pretty girl is. She is very inspiring, as are all of the other contestants. You all should be ashamed of yourselves for taking your "idiot nation" views and bashing these young women. You are the problem with this country, not laws that are trying to make our country more safe. If you will remember we are all from somewhere other country (except for the native americans) and our ancestors came thru legally through the ports of our nation. I do not believe that just because we don't want to offend anyone we should no longer have laws for people to come here.
Congradulations to Miss Michigan, you looked beautiful!!
u rock, we're waiting for ur visit to LEBANON..god bless
At least for once, Ms USA is not black.
She is smoking HOT!!! Who cares where she was born.
@johnny You nailed it.. hahaha I wish I marry one of them. Specially Miss Oklahoma. ;)
thanks for your..............response! dummy!!
I am Permanent Resident Alien in the US. As such, I have a card that I have to carry with me. If I'm caught without it, I could be deported on the spot. I've been asked many times to show it (most often when traveling but other times as well). It doesn't bother me a bit. I don't understand why this law is an issue at all. What have you got to hide? I suspect most folks don't understand the literally millions of dollars a year that go down the tube as a result of illegals in the country. Want better parks for your kids? Better roads? Better...anything paid for with tax dollars? The money being wasted as a result of immigration issues and illegals in the US would pay for all of this....and much, much more.
Vote now: What's more depressing?
The hatred displayed on this comment board or the fact that a beautiful immigrant woman won a pageant that bears the name of an immigrant nation?
The polls are open!
As soon as the firsts pilgrims arrived to what we call the United States they became illegals since this land belong to the native americans. Therefore, all americans are descendants from illegals. Stop profiling people!
keep your 5 bucks! we're not in lebanon!! dummy!
@jim That's funny how you think you are belittling me by questioning whether my statement is a response. The answer is yes, it is a response to the conversation that's happening. Good for you for being so inquisitive.
Good post, Trev. Thanks.
Republican = RACIST
KKK were republican
Dixiecrats voted Republican
Confederates (the southern states of today) are Republican
It's nice to know you finally found the guts to stop hiding behind your white hats and are showing your hate in public.
Get real! we only watch this trash for the the bikini talent. You can always watch with the sound off, in the dark, with a beer, that what I do.
@Joe you have no brain with your silly comments YOU made my day with your ignorance. Maybe you should go to College and learn how to read and write.
To everyone insisting that this is about nothing but enforcing the law:
I fully expect each and every one of you to be out campaigning HARD to stop the initiative to ban photo radar speed enforcement. After all, speed limits are the law, how can anyone object to rules which are only about enforcing the law better? The people trying to get the photo radar banned are simply trying to make it harder to enforce the laws that are already there, and promote illegal activity.
Stop the Ban Photo Radar in AZ Initiative!!
I am not Muslim and I am not Lebanese but I am grossly disgusted by all of the closed minded idiots whose comments were even published on these pages.
The pageant is about beauty and confidence and RIMA...MISS USA 2010 (like it or not)...expressed both!!! Her answers may have not been the best but take into consideration nerves and anxiety and still having composure in front of the millions watching and then tell me she didn't deserve to win!!!
Thank you to all of the wonderful people who put religion, race and culture aside and showed their support because she was representing MICHIGAN!!! I saw a winner when I saw Rima and that is why I supported her 100%...and I will continue to support her as she is not only representing Michigan now but the ENTIRE USA!!!!
Grow up people and stop being so stupid!!!!!!
Most of these racist/Teabagger Muppets on here can't even tell me what it means to have a Lebanese Confessional political system. $5 for the first correct Teabagger response. ..... Morons
now that's a response!
joe, the easily influenced are the paranoid, teabaggers like you who believe everyone who isn't WHITE is against you. You are the ones who actually believe what is on paper and don't bother to ask questions. However, I'd rather be one of "The New Stupid" than a racist who at any moment would lynch someone out of hate.
Why don't the racists here admit that the immigration issue wasn't as big a problem as it is now because you guys are against the first black president. I didn't see this kind of behavior under any other white president.
Issue aside, Rima Fakih is extremely HOT and apparently knows her way around a pole!!!
For all their faults, pageants like this one do encourage debate at a national level.
Arizona's new law is an attempt by a "conservative" legislature to legitimize practices that predate the law's enactment. Maricopa County in particular is notorious for racial profiling, civil rights violations, and gross abuses of power by law enforcement.
Like most, I'm a citizen by an accident of birth. The gentleman in the cubicle next to me is a naturalized citizen originally from Mexico. I dare say he's done more to earn his citizenship than I've ever done, and anyone coming to the United States legally or otherwise and seeking the same freedoms sought by our forefathers deserves a fair chance.
Immigration generally defines the process of re-establishing residency from one comunity to another, and any processes involved therein.
Migration is a broader term. It's important because, where prehistoric native Americans are concerned, we're not discussing movement between communities, legal or otherwise. We're discussing a shift of people from one land mass to another–in this case, to one which was in all likelihood completely uninhabited.
"First Muslim US President, First Muslim Miss USA...whats next"
The President is not a Muslim, you idiot. What difference does it make what religion she is. It's not the "Miss Christian" pageant. She is an American and she is representing America, a country of ethnic diversity, or at least so it's supposed to be, if the Conservitives don't go Nazi and round up everyone that's different from them.
I swear I didn't realize americans are so ignorant...
u know nothing about Lebanon... you are blind by what the media shows you.......Dear all,before you spread ur hatred, try to know what is Lebanon about ...
its amazing how generations fought racism only to find their offsprings the worst racists ever!.. now are we kidding ourselves thinking we can make the US a better place to live by creating racial profiling? the US nation is suffering from alzheimer.. and the hostility created will be shared by ALL the rich and the poor citizens.. i see how YOU are crafting the bed we all will lay on!!.. good going AMERICA!..
is that a response??
Lawrence- Couldn't agree more.
To the poster below who seems enraged that Miss USA wasn't born in the USA: Yes, she was born in Lebanon and then grew up in Queens. What's more American than that? Becoming American and embodying the American story is just as American as being born here.
Unless you are 100% Native American, someone, somewhere in your past had to wake up one day in another country and make the decision to come to America. That's what America is, and that's what Rima Fakih is.
Miss Colorado USA 2009 was born in Germany. She lived there until she was FIVE. What is the big deal? Oh, that's right....racism.
OK, to all of you who didn't think she should win because she wasn 't born here – What about the Governor of California? – Why is it OK that he is the governor of the state with the largest economy in the country, something far more important that some silly beauty contest? Especially when we all know that his dad had connections with the SS? Honeslty, ask yourself that question. And think about this, also. How many of you supported the effort to make being born in the US NOT a qualification for President so that specifically Arnold could be a candidate? DId the not being born in the US thing bother you then?
Seems like you have a very narrow of what an "American" is.
P.S. George Washington wasn't born in the US and he did a pretty good job for us.
Wow, the responses yet again highlight the staggering ignorance of the general public.
Alright, a Lebanese winning the miss America "candidate for Miss America" She's hot, pretty, exotic looks and she's Lebanese..America what else could you ask for?
Miss USA is an American of Middle Eastern background
I really thought we had Freedom of Religion here in America
I mean she should not be damned just bc of her heritage and religion....if anything....you people who are speaking out against her are racial profiling. She is not a terrorist
I mean most of you elected a president who was most likely not born here and can produce no American birth cirtificate so ....
damn the redicals not the religion
we must remember that 99% of all Americans are Illegal immigrants as the Native Americans can attest to
illegal is illegal.....right?
you didn't!! you were very civil. i believe i said that, and feel free to quote me. pedro will gladly pay up his 300 pesos!
Joe, there's great irony in you, speaking from the culture of anti-intellectualism, the rejection of academia, and putting forth a linguistically dubious rant...
...but declaring, in all caps, the stupidity of liberals.
Sadly, you're worthless.
The Miss USA pageant is a joke. Funny, I watched the video and it seemed overwhelmingly in support of Miss OK's answer!! Not sure where the "jeers of disagreement" came from, but I didn't hear any.
"Fakih is thought to be the first Arab American and Muslim to take the Miss USA crown, according to the Detroit Free Press."
Thought to be the first? I thought facts were supposed to be checked before an article is written.
I love the AZ question, it made it so juicy. I really can't wait to see it again next year.
ITs great to see a hot Arab American win!!!!!!!!
the middle part should read "everyone thinks its based on race/hate, but if the people here in the US ILLEGALLY were filthy rich..." apologies.
Migrated. They came here from somewhere else.
Immigrated. They came here from somewhere else.
You might want to put the bong down for a while. It appears you have had enough for now.
@Lokstah.... Is that the bill that was basically amnesty? There is good reason why that didn't pass. Don't you think the Government of AZ has the right to protect the people that are there legally and actually pay taxes? The fact that people think Illegal Immigrants should also benefit from the new HealthCare Bill are living in a fantasy. I voted for Obama and I am a life long Dem but I can tell you that I am really starting to question those positions because of how this Administration has ignored the will of the American People. Do you not think it matters that over 60% of America think this is a good law? What about all the people that opposed the HealthCare Bill? Why is that not a bigger story? I can't watch FoxNews but at least you know they will report those facts even if they are clearly right wing talking heads... There is a large contingent in America that is growing more and more angry with the policies of this Administration but if they voice their opinion they get branded racist. There will be revolt in this Country if Mr. Obama doesn't change his ways.. I would hate to see a Republican Sweep in November but I think it is inevitable.
Relax guys, it is just Miss USA. Save you energies in helping clean the oil spill.
"This is what we mean by taking our country back libs, we want an America where people are free to speak their minds and form their own views and beliefs no matter what they look like."
That's a joke, right? You want this only if they agree with you, and it's obvious from your "lib" jab that your words are hollow.
The majority of these posts show what is wrong with America. The same folks crying "we want our country back" are the same ones disparing this young women for being Muslim. What happened to the land of the free. News Flash: there are muslims that were actually born here in America therefore making them American citizens.
And Sammy...PLEASE GO READ A BOOK.
@Becca: There are about a million sources which detail her life story. She was born in Lebanon but raised in NY since infancy. It doesn't matter–she's clearly an American citizen–but come on, people. Facts.
But, more importantly, the crowd CHEERED when she answered that states have the right to make their own laws which of course means that the crowd, like over 70% of the fountry, is in FAVOR of the AZ crackdown!
Illegals go home!
hey becca, i'm not hating on her, but her bio states she was born in lebanon and grew up in the US. *shrugs* either way, she's still a citizen
LIBERAL = THE NEW STUPID
not an opinion but a fact....and heres some supporting claims id like to make.
back in the day, people who went to college were smart and held their own viewpoints....today people who graduate from college, well most of them anyway, come out liberal..and why is that? because they are so easily influenced by all the mindless dogma that they've been taught....if you dont learn to put a firm foot down and say no to these illegals then you're just shooting yourself in the foot, in which case you wont be able to put that said foot down....by the way, its funny how people will so easily fold to arguments such as "its racial profiling" just because someone says it is.....this law is clear and good and will help this country in the long run....Do you want another Greece? this country is going to go bankrupt with all the illegals stealing money from our system....if a bum walked into your house and started eating all your food, would you support his ass? thats what you are doing when you support an illegal...and by the way, their INBRED children will shape the future of our country especially if they receive financial aid and go to college, and unfortunately, thats whats happening now....why would you want an intellectually inferior race running the country? do you see any hispanic countries leading in economy in this planet? we are becoming the new mexico and it has to end now! GOD BLESS ARIZONA FOR HAVING SOME BRAINS... BY THE WAY arizona need to round em all up, not fine them...round up up and send them back where they came from... and send all their inbred children back with them...TO hell with naturalization.
Are you Native American? If not, then STFU, period.
Ariz.'s law is bigoted and un-American and the state is just beginning to regret it ever enacted such a foolish law that targers one group of people.
Having said that, the pageant was not the proper forum for that question.
When it comes to entertainment, leave your political passions at home, or in Arizona's case, in the gutter.
@JIM, you're taking the martyr histrionics to a wild new level. When did I call you a single name? I don't think I did. Quote me. I dare you. You and me; we were mostly civil.
“Real Americans” are enraged at the election of an Arab-American beauty. Maybe it’s just a Pavlovian reflect. How can a colored woman be voted as more beautiful than a Southern Belle! Remember Spring 1865 in Appomattox ... that’s was the beginning of the end.
to all americans, are you going to hate Shakira,Selma Hayek,Tony Chalhoub....just because they are of Lebanese decent ????
You have it wrong. There was no booing ... and I was wondering why this a$$ of a judge warned people to listen to the question before booing. All I heard were cheers as the contestant answered the question. The judge was trying to create an issue when most of the audience there appeared to agree with the contestent. With that said... I am from Michigan and cannot believe Miss Michigan won! Her answers to both of her questions were completely incoherent. How did this chick win? Seriously.
america is a multiracial society it was built on imigration this is a wonderful thing am glad she won ,it doesnt matter wat race or creed its about equality,our children has broken down the race barrier and its a good thing. hope we as leaders and parents will learn from it, this is wat makes america america equality for all law abiding people.
I had a much different take than most everyone on the crowd booing the office guy. i didnt see it as the crowd booing him, I saw it as he crowd booing the law. he hadnt even stated a position on the law when they started booing. they were booing the law, not him. could be wrong, but thats what it seemed like to me. and for the record, the law is not racist. its just a state trying to protect its budget more than anything. everyone thinks its based on race/hate, but if the people here in the US were filthy rich, do you think there would be a problem? its not a race thing, its because 99.9% of people here illegally are poor and gulping social services funded by taxes. Im a bleeding-heart liberal but no nation can survive with the immigration policies we have. and we actually have decent policies on the books, the feds just dont enforce them. dont blame arizona, their hand was forced on this.
Ummm...she WAS born in America and she IS an American and no where does it say she is Muslim, not that it should matter what her religion is. Why? Is the pagent only for WASPs? No. She was born IN AMERICA to Arab Americans. You people are as quick to go after someone who is different as the Nazis! And you have the nerve to call OBAMA a Nazi? Geez....you all are MUCH worse than anyone except maybe Glenn Beck or Rush!
@Nhuston who said: "Miss America 2010 WAS born in the U.S., New York to be exact. Check your facts before you start spouting ignorant comments. This country is taking so many steps backwards....sadly I don't think there will ever be true racial equality."
Nhuston, wrong. It doesn't matter a lick–she's an American–but Jesus, folks. Take two seconds and look it up. She was born in Lebanon and moved, as an infant, to NY. She was raised in Queens.
The host does not make up the questions, moron.
thanks!! thanks a lot!!
i bet my amigo pedro i could get someone, anyone, to call me a racist, fascist, nazi pig. you were the lucky contestant! you held strong, and refrained from going into the gutter, much to my surprise, for a seemingly highly educated individual.
oh, the bet? i bet pedro a free bus ride, south, that i could get anyone to call me those vial things! pedro put up 300 pesos, saying no one in their right mind, not in america, would ever think like that, let alone say those god-awful things to another human being.
it's been a challenge, i know. but, the work day is just about done, and i'll be headed home, soon.
GET real this christ like country was born and raised on slavery and then jim crow laws. the az law is a walk in the park. thank god for civil wars bring on john rebs this time we take no prisoners. get it.
Since when does it make you a racist to expect people to follow the rules of law! My forefathers that immgrated followed the law to become 'legal citizens of the United States of America'.
The US should treat people that cross the US borders illegals as criminals! The US is probably the ONLY COUNTRY IN THE WHOLE WORLD that doesn't. Which means 'we will ALWAYS' be vunderable to attack within our own borders!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE – THIS IS A SECURITY OF COUNTRY ISSUE – NOT RACISM!!!
Wow. The massive amount of ignorance on here is overwhelming.
I am from Detroit, and for the last time you moronic hillbilly/nationalistic/Jesus freaks SHE IS A UNITED STATES CITIZEN.
If you infantile, pea-brained rednecks would get your head out of your ass and put down your little book of fairy-tails (bible) and read a history book you would know this.
And no she doesn't have ties to Hezbollah (not that you would even know what that is or where they are from).
Here is a quick history lesson for you inbred muppets:
Where some states have a large ethnic Hispanic minority, here in Michigan, we have Arabs and Chaldeans. Most Chaldeans are from a town in northern Iraq called TelKayf. Not only do they speak Arabic, but they also speak the language of Christ (Aramaic) and are Catholic.
So quit with the lame nationalistic teabagger crap and embrace the fact that this country is a melting pot and that's what makes America exceptional.
Why do you idiots have to make everything about your hate for Obama? This is about a beauty contest...and you start a tantrum about the President.
@Luke: That's silly and incorrect. Prehistoric Native Americans didn't "immigrate" here, to the US.
They migrated to an uninhabited land mass.
3rd Step...Kick um out and that includes all of the illigals in our prison system. The gang members who murder Americans and the drug dealers
I can't believe you people are so against the Arizona law. Obviously, there is a huge problem in Arizona with illegals, since it is by the border. Just because because they cross the line without being caught doesn't mean they should automatically become citizens. If we went to Mexico illegally we would be shot or worse. Our country allows PLENTY of people in legally every year, but when too many come in it hurts everyone! I can't believe that it's so hard to understand.
Miss America 2010 WAS born in the U.S., New York to be exact. Check your facts before you start spouting ignorant comments. This country is taking so many steps backwards....sadly I don't think there will ever be true racial equality.
"Well, I am not happy about a foreigner, muslim, winning a Miss USA pageant crown. "
She's not a foreigner. She's an American CITIZEN. That means she's not on foreign land when she's standing next to you at McDonalds. You people are demented and, honestly, with such a large number of you running about clearly unmedicated, the only real question I have is why anyone at all would want to come here at all...let alone legally or illegally. The misery you heap on the rest of us who wish to live peaceful, rational, reasonable lives is immeasurable.
to all the haters, Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon.
Shakira, Selma Hayek, Mika, Tony Chalhoub, Ray LaHood, Carlos Ghosn, Carlos Helu and so may celebrities of the world are of LEBANESE descent ....
enough said !!
ur problem is that u know nothing about Lebanon, write "Lebanon nightlife" on google and u will see how wrong you are !!!!!
States Rights...all for that....We had a war over it people...Civil War
I think we are headed for it again....look at Cali and AZ....the line will be drawn and soon.
Let me tell you Libral people something...you had better be learning Spanish bc these people are here, they DEMAND food stamps, welfare, social sec., health care, education and YOU and ME are paying for all of that and they ARE NOT. They do not want to become Americans like your grandmothers and grandfathers when they came here. They want America to change to suit their ways. America spends millions on all of the above mentioned and more.
If you were to go to ANY OTHER country on the planet they will lock you up or boot you out if you are there illigally. And they for sure will not support you or TRANSLATE anything for you.
If you ever left your little libral world you would know that if you travel outside of the United States you must carry your passport with you. WHY? so if you are asked you can prove that you are in the country legally.
Also, abviouly you have never had a car wreck with an illigal. They total your car and vanish leaving you to pay all exspences and injury. They don't have insurance or drivers licences.
WAKE UP People! We do need to take back America and fast
1st step..November 2nd step: English Official Language
mjlucky said: "People opposed to the AZ immigration law always seem to say that they recognize that Illegal Immigration is a big problem that needs to be solved but never offer any input as to how they would deal with the problem."
@mjlucky: Try federal immigration reform. Sadly, neither GW Bush nor the presently Democratic controlled Capitol Hill has had the guts or the muscle to push reform past the notable GOP opponents who've worked hard to prevent it.
Hey commonsense39. The American Indians immigrated here also. There is also some evidence that some white people were here, at about the same time, when the Indians "immigrated here". Check your "facts". Not that it matters anyway. Illegals who break laws, drive like crap, ruin the health care system, tax our school system to the maximum, and fill our prisons has NOTHING TO DO WITH IMMIGRATION. The law is the law. If Americans have to obey the law then foreigners (mostly Mexicans) should be held to the same standard. By the way, I am not a German American. I am just an American. The only flag I fly is old Glory. Anyone who wants to fly other flags or thinks they are something other than simply American needs to leave.
Laughingatyou. You are a racist, hateful, ignorant, uneducated piece of trash. Go back to the hole you crawled out of.
let me ask you this. how many times have you filled out any kind of paperwork, job application, etc and have been truly embarrassed each and every time you've had to answer that one question, you know, the one asking if you're an american citizen? must have really been too much........
itzjuswrong May 17th, 2010 12:07 pm ET
You're a freaking idiot, ya know. Miss Fakih was born in Dearborn, Michigan. Why don't you read the story or other links before displaying your ignorance & stupidity outright. She is of Lebanonese descent, just as I am of Norwegian descent. So what?
How about you? Are you a real American?
what a bunch of mindless idiots booing?
that law is very fair and it will help the booers get jobs that all these illegals have taken from us....have you guys been to southern california...aka imo northern mexico?
obviously guys have not........i like to laugh and scoff at people who come to such an early conclusion just because someone uses an emotional argument that the law is "racial profiling" this is exactly how washington gets its way...it spits out mindless arguments that mindless idiot americans accept. Maybe the people who want these aliens to stay are the same ones who make these arguments...let the illegals stay so that the population gets dumber and dumber and more easily influenced by mindless arguments...after all, these illegals based on statistics have lower IQ's dont graduate from college, and from my experience the ones who do graduate from college are still very stupid and cling to whatever they have been told in college with no free thinking viewpoints of their own...we are becoming north mexico and for those who boo, you have just proven how stupid you are....go read the law.
I am constantly amazed at how ignorant people that post are. First Muslim president? Obama arrested for sedition? Miss America only because she has Arab background? Citizens required to show papers in Arizona? It is embarassing to admit you are American.
Well, I am not happy about a foreigner, muslim, winning a Miss USA pageant crown.
The only reasons are due to Obama being in office and as we all know someone paid for the crown, remember politics is always involved and it was a planned event.
That is it in a nut shell.
I say NO MORE.
I TOTALLY GET THE GAME.
CIAO, MISS MOLLIE
BTW, one of you REDNECK TEALIBAN JACKHOLE RACIST XENOPHOBES want to explain to the class why a LEGAL immigrant who EARNED her citizenship somehow fails to represent everything America stands for? Hmmmmmm?
It's the very essence of the principles our country was founded upon. Your ranting tips your hand.
All teaparty supporters are racist, teabaggers. If you're so much for the country where were you guys when GW Bush took down this country and turned a surplus into a deficit?
Yea Miss Oklahoma. You are MS USA for me
Hey to ya"ll racists, George Bush made up a story to kill innocent people in Iraq and people in his own military. If that is not illegal I don't know what is. If you're afraid of your shadow make like the groundhog and hide. You were just used to 8 years of Bush bullying people that you've forgotten how to be civilized.
"I am black and against illegal immigration. Any of you jerks wanna call me a redneck? Quit stereotyping just because someone doesn't agree with you. And yes, many of us Tea Party supporters are women and black/latino/asian/arab. Get used to it."
Thanks dude. Funniest thing I read all day. Did you get your practice back in fall 2008 pretending to be a HIllary Clinton supporter who was all PUMA'd up and ready to vote for McCain and against everything Clinton stands for just because Obama got the Dem nomination?
my noisy point is this. all the "racial profiling", boo-hooing, wah-wah big mouths just happen to talk out of both corners! out of one comes the whining, worse, the pity. out of the other comes the "oh yeah, but we should follow the law" because this is such a great country. take whatever point you wish too out of this; doesn't matter to me one bit.
by the way, been reading a lot about this new ms usa. you think she's available??
This is a non-issue. The question posed to Miss Michigan was equally "political" as the the one Miss Oklahoma had to answer.
I'm native American.. Yet I feel just as American as anyone who was born here or came here 'legally'..
I see the mass illegal immigration as doing to all Americans what was done to my people when the first immigration to America took place..
We were welcoming and helped..Only to find we should have fought from the beginning..My people were almost wiped out..
I think Americans need to wake up..The next genocide will be yours.
Stop welcoming 'illegals.' .Stop disrespecting your laws.. And encourage legal immigration..or you will be helping wipe your own people out.
There is no shame in fighting for the laws to be respected..That is not a sign of inhumanity.. Stop siding with illegals..And against your own States like Arizona who are only trying to protect their own.
Is Miss South Carolina liberal?
I am not strongly for or against the immigration law in AZ because I have never been there and won't act like I know the problems that this issue is causing. I do find it striking that there is extreme selective reporting on this issue and the fact that an overwhelming majority of Americans support the law. Not all people that think AZ has a right to enforce their border are racist people, just as all illegal immigrants aren't gang members. Both sides of the argument on this issue seem to be making broad assumptions about entire groups of people. That is our biggest problem in this Country that we can't actually have a discussion without turning to name calling. People opposed to the AZ immigration law always seem to say that they recognize that Illegal Immigration is a big problem that needs to be solved but never offer any input as to how they would deal with the problem. Something must be done because those boarder states are at a breaking point. I do hope we can all find some kind of middle ground but I highly doubt it.
It's nice to see so many conservative racist bigots can read and type. It's too bad they can't read and comprehend.
prototypical moron post:
itzjuswrong May 17th, 2010 12:07 pm ET
What the ??? Miss U.S. wasn't born in the U.S. This country is getting sicker and sicker. And the New Arizona law is a near mirror copy of the Federal Law already on the books. The big difference is the people here in Arizona are going to enforce the law. America is for Americans, not illegals. Period!
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I am black and against illegal immigration. Any of you jerks wanna call me a redneck? Quit stereotyping just because someone doesn't agree with you. And yes, many of us Tea Party supporters are women and black/latino/asian/arab. Get used to it.
Nunez did not even get the law right. It has to be in the course of a normal investigation.
Very sneaky attempt by the producers to stir up controversy and try to make this contest relevant. Leave it to a couple of male judges that love dudes or play the character on TV to ruin a good thing.
People..... get a clue !!! Miss USA is NOT Miss America !!
Miss USA pagent is OWNED BY DONALD TRUMP !! Its his money and his show...... he can put anybody in it, have any judges he wants to, cause a bunch of controversy, and let anybody win in order to cause even more controversy. The more controversy, the better it is for his bottom line.
If I was Donald Trump, I would start a "Miss. Mormon" pagent, and then have illegal aliens, crackheads, terrorists and murderers on parole for my contestants, and then just wait for the ratings and money to roll in from all the controversy.
Obama nation? Where did I hear THAT one before????
Hmmmmm....from those who depend on others to think for them.
The people who write these posts are not to be taken seriously as they relay on talk show entertainers to speak the "truth."
Nice try though....
Californian said: "Was she born in an Arab country? Then how can she be Arab American?"
@Californian: Huh? She's Arab-American by the standard naming scheme: ethnically Arab, but American by citizenship and residency. Any other grade-school civics and social-studies lessons needed?
'It was a Liberal Setup, where was the Question for the Muslim girl to condemn Hamas?'
Next? First intelligent conservative.
"Can Obama and his lapdog Holder, be arrested for sedition? After all, they have violated the federal immigration laws of the USA."
Sedition = inciting to riot.
You = retard.
I love how people are so racist, thinking that Miss U.S.A has to be american born, because while you say that "Aubrie" you are implying that their white are you not? Racist a bit?, I think you are, because not once did it say that she wasn't born in the U.S, she was born in Dearborn Michigan, You obviously don't know your facts, or you just don't want to believe the truth.
Maria, I doubt you are such a law abiding citizen. If you have seriously not broken the law at all (ie. driving drunk, drinking under 21, speeding, etc) then you should tell St. Peter to give you his seat in Heaven because even HE denied Christ 3x. Get off your high horse. It's racism and you know it.
First Muslim US President, First Muslim Miss USA...whats next
Ladies and gentlemen, all these comments....another reason why I love America!
@JIM: "by "sufficient outcry", do you mean majority opinion?? or by "folks sharing your opinion", do you mean those who most recently may have failed in their own election bids??"
Sure. We're not in disagreement about the means by which laws in AZ are made. What's your noisy point this time, friend? That ours is a largely conservative nation? That SB1070 was put in place by the usual, legal means? Not in contention.
Kind of anorexic though but that's required for these pagents.
"she won and she did because she was BETTER...GET IT??? "
Just to play devil's advocate here (I really have no position either way): would you be saying the same thing if it was some wonderbread southern girl who spoke with a drawl and said something popularly ignorant like "the federal gubmint should enact the same law as AZ done did"? See, the tug-o-war going on between those who expect race to be a factor and those who expect it not to be a factor has finally gotten out of hand. Both sides want it both ways. Roland "A$$cot" Martin blabber about "why no black female nominee?" but he'd be the first to say it was solely based on merit if one had been appointed. The other side will question Miss America or a nominee being of a minority race, saying "it's all this PC bullsh-t out of control" but then be the first ones to pretend that an all white field of contestants or nominees was based solely on merit as though racism is no longer a part of life in the USA, shouting down anyone who even raises the question "hey wait a second...why aren't there any minorities up there?" And round and round we go. Personally, I think the mulberry bush is probably getting sick of watching us.
Everybody with a brain knows "states rights" is just a code term for oppression and racism. It was used by Southern extremists to desperately hold on to an evil, unAmerican way of life. The same is apparently true today with people using "states rights" to support the disgusting, Nazi-style Arizona law. BOYCOTT ARIZONA.
obviously i didn't read a lot of comments above mine b/c a few others have already stated her origins. lol
She's hot... like super hot... like "wow oh wow"
I didn't realize so many people who wear white hoods at night follow CNN.com. In fact I didn't realize most of you could read.
King James – get an education. Leadership in this country is STRONG. Just because you don't agree with it, and loud ignorant Alaskan quitters are out there spewing hate out of the sides of their mouths while they 'support' "this Great Country" out the front... that's been going on for 200+ years.
With the Freedom of Speech comes 2 responsibilities: the responsibility of the SPEAKER to speak well reasoned truth, and the responsibilty of the LISTENER to check the facts and verify their completeness.
When it comes to you and Ms. Palin, you're BOTH failing on BOTH counts.
Now, remember: DRILL, BABY, DRILL!
It amazes me...I'm starting to truly believe that stupidity is an infinite and timeless void in space with no end.
All those who say enforcing the immigration laws that we've had for a lot longer than most of these posers have been born is racist is just plain ignorant and shows how screwed up our public school systems truly are.
If you want to live in a lawless society get the hell out of this country!
She is a smoking hot Brunnette. I thought that was the requirement?
@Kat... President Obama was born in Hawaii in 1961. Since Hawaii offically became a state in the United States of American in 1959, President Obama WAS born in the US. It is a requirement of presidency that the president be born in the US. I do not know of any such requirement for Miss USA.
As you can see, there no more beauty in USA than the Inmigrants.....USA needs inmmigrants for everything, even for find the most beautiful girl to " represent" USA worldwide....
@Sammy, who said, "Can Obama and his lapdog Holder, be arrested for sedition? After all, they have violated the federal immigration laws of the USA."
To those who are against the winner.... you are a bunch of racist teabaggers. Go hold hands with Sarah Palin and tatoo the Confederate Flags to your foreheads.
Was she born in an Arab country? Then how can she be Arab American?
If those who are trashing this young lady's accomplishment want to see the face of evil, they should look in the mirror.
Cut the racist crap out already, she's beautiful
The amount of visceral reactions here attests more to the intelligence of people who actually waste their time watching beauty pageants than the quality of Nunez's question.
Then again, it's a sad day when we expect beauty queens to provide useful contributions to the political discourse. The next thing you know we might have a former beauty queen become governor of Alaska. She'd probably quit before finishing her term, because she too realized she was too incompetent to manage on of the least populace states in the union. This is, of course, all hypothetical.
You are incorrect–the so-called native americans also immigrated here.
Can Obama and his lapdog Holder, be arrested for sedition? After all, they have violated the federal immigration laws of the USA.
by "sufficient outcry", do you mean majority opinion?? or by "folks sharing your opinion", do you mean those who most recently may have failed in their own election bids??
seems to me this law was introduced into a democratically elected state legislative body, was voted on by same said body, was passed by a majority vote in said body, and was signed into law by a state governor who was elected via the same process. sounds like the AMERICAN people (at least those in arizona) have spoken, loud and clear?? let's hope the word gets out!!
say, 2010 is an election year, isn't it??
A true American is a Native American. Unless someone in this forum is Native American, then the descendants of everyone in this forum is an illegal immigrant. Or an immigrant.
Mike you sure know a lot about Rima Fakih... Sounds like she might want to get some papers filed to keep you from finding out more ;)
Yes our ancestors were immigrants. The major difference between then and now is that they wanted to be Americans. Not African-American, Jewish-Americans, Italian-Americans – simply Americans. They came here for a better life, to leave the country where their lives were not good for whatever reason. Most all of them ended up fighting for America almost as soon as they got off the boats. But because this country stood for freedom offering them any opportunity they wanted to work towards so they were willing to fight, and die, for freedom. They risked their lives to simply become an American.
wow nice looking rag head
and just to set the record straight, just google her. she was born in lebanon, but grew up in Queens. so yes, she is an immigrant, BUT she is a legal immigrant, and if the pageant has no rules about contestants being natural born citizens only, then i have no problem with her winning. it's a pageant, what else do you want to come from it? she's hot, she won, simple as that.
Sad part is, she showed just how uneducated she is with her answer. Cheer for states' rights all you want...and when you've calmed down and are done being a retard, go look up the doctrine of pre-emption.
commonsense39, you apparently have NO common sense. Many Latinos (like my family) are against illegal immigration too. Are you going to call us racist? You make me sick. Calling everyone who supports the laws of this country is juvenile and just plain wrong.
You people are so jealous, envious and INTIMIDATED by the fact that that there are so many people out there who out smart, out look, out perform and just about out do you all in every way that you cannot find anything else to do than to bash them when they are highlighted or when they beat you yet again! FACE IT, she won and she did because she was BETTER...GET IT??? Not a hard one to understand...AND, don't be such haters when it comes to Nunez; at least he has the GUTS to say what he feels on national television than most of you cowards here who are only spouting your bigotry remarks via a platform that you KNOW no one will ever CARE to trace back...You are simply not worth the energy...I NEVER write on these things, but I couldn't resist it this time..Thanks for making me LAUGH AT YOU with each passing comment :)
Lastly, if I were you (those of you who hated how things turned out in the pageant) I would get used to LOSING...there is much more of that coming your way in the future :)
An American citizen through and through...ha-ha-ha!!!
Julie Hayek, who is also Lebanese-American, was the first in 1983.
Thank you, ndlily!! I couldn't have said it better!
I read "itzjuswrong" comment and was floored. It is a Miss America pageant, so I am pretty certain you have to be American to be a participant. Who cares if they are Arab American, German American, Asian American, African American, etc...these are all the people who make up the United States of America!
starzzguitar go clean some toilets. Then get on your hands and knees to pick corn or scrub floors since you think these are the jobs Americans will do. This country is the land of opportunity. If Americans are too stupid to realize that because they are too busy playing Nintendo, don't blame the people who are smart and seize the moment.
@Tuffyturf are you kidding me? Grow up.
Dagwood – No, I was in lower Manhattan with my sister, who died in tower 2. I just know the difference between religions and terrorist cells. However, as an active atheist and person dedicate to reason and thought, I understand and have witnessed how all religions, Islamic or not, fractures the mind and warps reality.
Poor girl..., having to answer that kind of question about AZ law, this isn't really a question for a beaty contest!!!
There are a lot of very scared, hatful, and extremely INSECURE people on this site.
I really hope this isn't a true sample of this country.
Miss Oklahoma still won in my book. I hope she reads this!
Reading these comments helps me understand why America is STUCK in perpetual motion and why the powers that be will ALWAYS be in power.
If only I could bottle racism and sell it i'd be rich and the nominee of the tea-baggers.
Then I'd nominate Arnold as my VP and see if they got over their birther and anti-immigrant notions.
Jesus wouldn't be allowed in America. He didn't speak English and he wasn't a Christian. Heck he wouldn't be allowed in church. And since he isn't recorded as being married, what would people say about him?
Patricia said: "To pointedly ask charged questions to one contestant and not the others is completely unfair. Nunez and the pageant should be ashamed. If he feels so strongly about the Arizona law he should have asked all of the contestants how they feel."
@Patricia: good lord, Pat. Don't be absurd. The pagent has operated with a similar format for ages, asking contestants to answer questions intended to be challenging, yes, but subjecting them to a bit of a "luck-of-the-draw" effect–the entire range of panel questions is never objectively the same difficulty across the board.
Would that be a more fair, more "scientific" means of conducting panel Q&A exams? Absolutely. Is it funny to see your angered histrionics at Nunez and the pagent for not conducting the friggin' Miss USA pagent in a more scientific fashion? Absolutely.
A true American is white. Is that what all you racists are saying.
I wonder how many of the white americans is the U.S are 100% american with no other background.
Your president is black for God sakes. Wake the h... up.
Lets just send all the blacks back to africa, latinos to south america europeans to europe french to france, muslims to... wait muslims come from everywhere!
Asians to Asia.
Lets just all go back to the ancient times before christ. Bring back the roman empire.
Bunch of redneck racists!!!!!
Minnesotan...you're wrong! The AZ state law is a mirror to the fed law, but with some teeth to it. NO ONE can simply ask someone for their 'papers' without having them being investigated for something else first. You need to get your facts straight. AND, to have anyone boycott the state of AZ because of this law is basically doing harm to those that the law is intended to protect. If there's no business in AZ, then there is no work for those here legally, and if no work, then they don't pay their bills, etc. etc. etc...then who's in really big trouble?
@Debra Northcutt You're an idiot... Obama was born in the USA. Stop quoting Bruce Springsteen too... he would think you're an idiot too
Miss USA should ask the same question to every contestant, just like Miss America does. They are put into an isolation booth and cannot hear the question until after they have answered it. The way it was done last night is ridiculous, you can't judge fairly when every person has a different question. The comparison is apples to oranges really.
Some of you in here are a pack of racists. If you're against immigration your a racist. Don't give me this bull about how you're only against illegal immigration. I doubt you're all law abiding citizens. I'd like to see how clean your records are.
Many learned about Muslims long before 9-11, we've been subjected to their wonderful philophosies way back to the Munich olympics and the Achilles-lauren, etc. etc. I may be ignorant but I'm not blind. you Luke must have been out of town on 9-11, maybe you should read a book....
it is amazing to read how much hatred are exposed here.
The question asked by that judge is valid. As valid was the answer given by the pagent.
America free speech was seen last night!
Beauty pagent has brains, but most importantly this lady was smart in seeing both sides of the coin even if some people do not like it.
It seems that some have never taken history classes nweither were explained were their parents came from.
I don't care if they DO racial profile. You can't always tell an illegal from a legal just by looking at them. I would certainly be suspect of anyone who does not know a word of English. Also I don't think most Lebanese think of themselves as "Arabs". They are Mediterranean, and usually Christian.
Many "hispanics" born here are not in favor of illegal border crossers because they are taking jobs away from their own American born citizens!
How can he be a judge of beauty when he looks like Quasimodo ?
@Jeff, @Ndlily: I've seen multiple references (People Magazine, etc) to the details of Miss Fakih's childhood biography. She was born in Lebanon and moved, as an infant, to New York. She grew up in Queens, where she attended a Catholic school (though she presently identifies as a Shi'a Muslim) and moved to Michigan in 2003 where she attended UM and received an economics degree.
It doesn't matter a lick, of course, to anyone with half a brain that she was born in Lebanon and not New York.
Cue the fake outrage machine from the right (lead story on foxnews.com this afternoon was how runner-up Oklahoma had the crown taken from her because she supported the Arizona anti-immigration law). Everyone involved in these pageants knows this one is decided by "The Donald". He has the producers throw the obvious hot-button question at the girl from the red state, and voila, all the conservatives go crazy, call Rush Limbaugh, giving his little dog and pony show free publicity. Didn't we see the same manuever during the Carrie Prejean saga?
If any of you actually took time to read about Rima Fakih, you would know that, yes, she did immigrate to the US from Lebanon as a child. She grew up in Queens before moving to Michigan and attending college there. In high school, she went to a Catholic high school, and while her family is Muslim, they embrace elements of both the Muslim and Christian faiths.
And if you went even further and read about the Miss USA rules, you would see that contestants need to only be citizens of the US (i.e. they do NOT need to be born here) in order to be eligible to compete for Miss USA.
So to all of you saying that she shouldn't have won and that she's not American, take a look around you. She is as American as any one of us - she is an immigrant just like someone in every Americans' family was at some point or another.
Decrying that she shouldn't have won because she is Muslim or Arab, making jokes about her being a terrorist, and saying that she shouldn't have won because she's not American is just showing how ignorant and racist you are and you disgust me and make me ashamed to call myself an American.
Every contestant should be asked the exact same question by each judge while the other contestants are sequestered so that they cannot hear the answers given by the others.
To pointedly ask charged questions to one contestant and not the others is completely unfair. Nunez and the pageant should be ashamed. If he feels so strongly about the Arizona law he should have asked all of the contestants how they feel. Maybe none of them held Mr. Nunez's viewpoint and they could have all been held to the same standard.
Once again, ignorance rules the day here, on both sides (but especially with the conservatives, because let's face it: the louder you scream your ignorance and punctuate it with hate and threats, the more ignorant you reveal yourself to be).
The blond should have won. I liked her answer and she is prettier. Who is Oscar Dumaz anyways ? Never even hear of him.
Wow – a bunch of idiots on this board. GailSnail, your name says it all. Why would you have to be born here to be Miss USA? That's a requirement for the President. But I'll bet you also don't think Obama was born here, either, right? And TuffyTurf...wow. I flagged your comment and you should be banned from opening your racist mouth.
its sad in this day and age , that because someone was not born in the USA or Canada there considered immigrants.sad people very sad
Don't just listen to the media Read the law.... they are only allowed to ask if someone is being questioned regarding a criminal act or crime. Get your facts straight.
Way to straddle both sides of the fence! Is she looking for a career in politics?
itzjuswrong–As far as anyone can tell from the story, Miss USA _was_ born in the USA. An Arab American is the term for an American of Arab descent, just like a German American is of German descent or an African American is of African descent. All of them born on US soil and none more American than the rest. I agree with the intent of the Arizona law (even if its methodology is a bit shaky), which is to curb a problem that is allowing the exploitation of the taxpayers and the exploitation of whole groups of severely underpaid people living on the edge of the law. But people like you who can only see us and them to the point that you can't even clearly read a sentence without jumping out of your seat and typing away with fingers of fire, fueled by ignorant indignation, aren't helping any of us.
Dagwood – two things. You stole that line from someone else that made news recently. You clearly don't have any original thoughts and mimic catchy phrase you read and/or hear on the news. You're a parrot. You are furthermore ignorant – You learned about terrorist factions such as Al Qaeda and the Taliban on 911. You did not learn about Muslims. Large portions of southern Europe, where tall blondes with long legs and blue eyes roam free are indeed Muslims. Please read a book and then think before you speak.
"States Rights?" Sounds so pre-civil war. Never heard anything about States Rights when Bush or any other man was POTUS. Funny how this term "States Rights" is being dragged through the mud on Obama's watch! American is not going back to pre-civil war days no matter how angry some Americans are. If we do, then african-americans better start cozying up to Canada, cause we'll definitely be "traveling north" if my country goes back to civil war times.
I'm always surprised by the amazing display of ignorance by these comments. Miss U.S. is an intelligent beautiful arab-american
Wow, I had no idea that the Miss USA pageant was such a showdown for racism and hate. First off, I think most of the posters on here on wrong about Miss Michigan not being born here. I distinctly remember them saying she was a third or forth generation of Lebanese decent. I don't remember anything being said about her being a muslim. Ya Know the great comedian Danny Thomas was Lebanese, I suppose he was a terrorist was well, what about America's 1960's sweetheart Marlo Thomas of "That Girl" also Lebanese decent, I suppose she had a bomb in that Kite she flew around Central Park. You all sound like a bunch of looney tunes, and as for the immigration question, what if her answer had been, "I want open borders for all" then you'd all be calling Miss Oklahoma a communist. The ignorance of some people in this country is amazing.
@Really?? some are prescription
The AZ law is NOT the mirror image of the Federal Law!!! The Federal Law requires a check on legal citizenship AFTER the person has already been arrested for something else. Big difference between doing a check on someone who has already been arrested and randomly checking brown people's papers like a fishing expedition....
STOP THIS CRAP CALLED "BEAUTY PAGEANT"
Women in Badakhshan are more beautiful and smart than these bimbos.
Sorry the above comment was for itzjustwrong
Miss Oklahoma should have won....she was gorgeous...Miss Mich could not speak formally
Her answer was exactly what it should have been.
Racial profiling is nothing but a convenient excuse for failing to take action on illegal immigration, and that excuse is NOT acceptable, whether at the state or the federal level.
It is the responsibility of all citizens, to seek out and report those who you believe may be in this country illegally.
why do pageants even exist anymore?....i can go on you tube and see beautiful bimbos anyday
to all the haters, Keanu Reeves was born in Lebanon.
Shakira, Selma Hayek, Mika, Tony Chalhoub, Ray LaHood, Carlos Ghosn, Carlos Helu and so may celebrities of the world are of LEBANESE descent ....
enough said !!!
Beauty pageants and political elections seem to have a lot in common, in fact, why not just consolidate them into a single event?
Miss USA is a joke. I am a minority and from Michigan and I thought that Miss Michigan was the lease deserving out of all the women. Her answers to the questions did not make sense. She won because it was a political decision. Not deserving at all.
That was a very smart answer. I think if lawmakers could start to see bothsides of things they would make better decisions.
I think it's surprising how many people are mad at Nunez for asking the question. I didn't watch the pageant, but based on this story all I see is that he's asking a question without showing any bias towards either side of the coin... in fact he's just asking the contestant how she feels about the situation.
“Arizona’s new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe to be in the country illegally,” “Critics say this may amount to racial profiling. Do you think that this should be mandated by the state or by the federal government?”
It's a tough situation for a contestant to be presented with, but she handled it fairly well. I think this is a non-issue, masking the real issue that we've already been discussing anyway. I think it's appropriate for 'Miss USA' to have to answer questions that matter in the country she's hoping to represent.
And what tribe do you come from might I ask because from what I remember in History class unless you are Native American you are an immigrant. This country was built by immigrants and would not survive one day without them. There is absolutely no person whose heritage can be traced back to the very beggining because even if you are a direct descendant of Christopher Columbus himself you are an immigrant.
I think it's a fair and topical question. Shouldn't the representation of young American females be able to answer an opinion question about current events? I also think Ms. Woolard answered very diplomatically.
@JIM: yes and no, friendo. Laws evolved to their present state in AZ because folks in one camp raised a sufficient outcry to one end. It'll continue to evolve, God willing, in what I'd consider better directions because other folks–folks sharing my opinion about the law–raise a little hell of their own. (It's not because of the law's champions that SB1070 became HB 2162. If it was up to the governor and her pals, SB1070 would have remained untweaked).
Do you really think these girls win or lose based on one question (that, by the way, is probably written by pageant organizers and handed to the judges)? Think again.
When are these illegal supporters going to read the numbers – the majority of legal citizens SUPPORT Arizona.
I guess she told him...
@robert, when did i ever say she was illegal? i said, "...the fact that a legal immigrant won the Miss USA pageant..." hmm, sounds like i said she's legal.
A Muslim?.....I learned all I needed to know about Muslims on 9-11...Give me a freakin' break..
Were you even watching? Most people cheered when she gave her answer. What kind of retarded spin are you trying to come up with?
"actors are basically trained monkeys."
What did a monkey ever do to you to make you hate them so?
Kudos to Miss Oklahoma for not doing a Carrie Prejean and screaming to anyone who'll listen that she got robbed because she's a conservative Christian.
Another biased news article by CNN. Listen to the audio and you will hear few boos and a lout of cheering.
Why does CNN find it so hard to report on a story without letting its political correctness get in the way?
Stephanie, it's a good point.
Part of the reason we're having this debate about Oscar Nunez and AZ SB1070 is because we find it weird, incongruous, and inflammatory to address a halfway-meaningful question about current issues in the pagent context... why? Because, as you've pointed out, it's a dated and silly TV special having trouble defining itself in 21st century media.
No one would have dared to ask a moppet prancing in the Coney Island Mermaid Parade circa 1920 to comment on the League of Nations; I think we can expect more of our ladies today. It's tough, though, when they're standing around in a bikini.
We should retire the damn thing.
now you're getting it!!! isn't that what just happened..........in arizona??
bet the day seems just a little bit brighter now, doesn't it??
I think the answer that Miss Michigan gave to her question was great. The question was (paraphrased) 'whether or not insurance companies should cover birth control pills' or something to that effect. She stated that they should be covered and regulated since they are a 'controlled substance'. Really?!?!?!
So it's okay then for the California governor not to have been born in the USA but a big to-do is being to be made over the winner of some beauty pageant?
@Robert: the theory would hold that there are prehuman ancestors to contemporary apes and humans alike which physical anthropologists would describe as apes, or ape-like.
A better question would have been, "Where is Arizona located?"
They said she was born in Lebanon.
I immigrated to the US at the age of 1. My family and I became naturalized citizens in the mid 80s. After college and dental school, I served in the US Navy as a dental officer assigned to a USMC command. During that time I was deployed to Iraq to provide dental/medical treatment to our servicemen, and came under fire several times. Many of the men and women I served with were foreign born US citizens. In addition, there were many enlisted personnel serving in the military as a way to become citizens. Some of these people never came home.
It's sad that some of you make distinctions between foreign born and US born citizens. Unless you're Native American, you're of immigrant blood too.
I support AZ immigration laws and the people who immigrate LEGALLY, because some people risk their lives trying to do it the right way.
So how much work does it take to be "born here?"
@JIM: well, yes, you've hit on a point. Laws are what they are, according to the pen–until they change, of course. They change and take on new, better, more fair, more effective, more meaningful and more efficient forms when those who find them unacceptable voice enough displeasure, promote discussion and debate, exert pressure in the proper places, and produce change... whether by legislation, by electing different empowered officials, or by court challenge.
Debra Northcutt-–And there are plenty of MADE IN THE USA Americans that tear down the very meaning and principle upon which this country was founded for. Miss USA and defintely President Obama, are more American and in tune with what that means then you seem to. Bush was made in the USA. And if you can honeslty say he was good for our country then, lol, theres no point in arguing with you at all, it go over your head anyway,
What I want to know is why, in 2010, are we still parading around women like cattle and judging them? This is an outdated contest...beauty pageants should be abolished. They are degrading to women.
MISS USA SHOULD BE AS BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN SINGS...."BORN IN THE USA!" and OUR PRESIDENT SHOULD BE THE SAME WAY! They can come to visit, they can come to stay, but some things should remain MADE IN THE USA!
my friend, the immigratioin laws, or rather, the lack of enforcement thereof, is EXACTLY why arizona has done what it has done! picking and choosing which laws to follow and which to let slide by in the name of "efficiency, fairness, and the fostering of community cooperation" shouldn't be how things are done. don't like the laws; change them! for now, these are the ones that are on the books.
i tried to convince folks who would enforce ALL of those silly traffic laws to let some of my indiscretions slide by. didn't work either!!
a little levity................for all the people interpretting this debate as "hate mongering"! not you.........
@Regan sure... kick up the dirt on that debate. Apes did not evolve into humans, the theory is that they (we) have a common ancestor.
Does anyone else remember Danny Thomas, the founder of St. Jude's Hospital, a leader in research and treatment for children who have cancer? He was a "Lebanese/Arab American" and a Christian. Can't we just get over getting so stirred up about someone's descent or ethnicity. If the person is here legally and contributes to society, what's the problem?
Whats wrong with the question. It was something he was concerned about. The point of this section is to see if the individual can answer with conviction, and with how they feel. There is no right or wrong answer for the individual. And Oscar is funny as hell! You shouldve seen him in Reno 911. Dont call him names because you dont like what he asked.
The stupidity regarding this law (from both sides of the isle I must add) has reached a new, more pathetic level.
@bic Just because she wasn't born here doesn't mean she is an ILLEGAL immigrant .
Congrats to Miss USA. If she is an American and legally qualified by the rules of the pajeant, it shouldn't matter where she was born.
The question asked to Miss Oklahoma wasn't right; if a contestant is going to be given a controversial question, then their answer will be judged through a prism of partiality. Period.
Trump likes his drama, though, and that's why it was in there, just like last at year's pajeant.
Illegals don't belong here; Legal immigrants do. AZ has the right to protect their citizens; Racial Profiling is illegal, however.
Please do our nation a favor by knocking off this hate on both sides.
Apes Evolved into Humans; Humans evolved into Americans... :)
@JIM: My answer was irelevant, Jim, because I'm not against the enforcment of immigration laws, per se. I don't, however, believe in the achivement of legal goals at all costs–rather, I advocate developing laws which balance important ends with efficiency, fairness, and the fostering of community cooperation. I think that a law which employs a clubfisted near-mandate of statewide racial profiling is the wrong approach.
at the end of the day its all about the rich and the poor. the white coloured and black coloured and brown coloured. the haves and the haves not.if she had won miss england, i wouldn't mind if she was daughter of osama bin laden as long as she had no connection with her father's money or with him and as long as she had a british passport and followed the laws of the land .the superiority complex amongst the white people has got to be stopped .fullstop
WOW!! It seems that all of the hate and anger in these comments seem to to also use the terms Lib and Democrat as well.
So from what I am reading the "Right" appear on here as in most of the posts I read on Fox to be the angry racist hated filled group.
Yet they keep trying to insist that they should be in power.
Sarah Palin really is the correct choice as thier mouth piece. Loud angry racist and stupid beyond words. Go GOP these people are doing you proud!!!
The contestants of the Miss America pageant should be asked questions about current events so that we can see what they are like as people and not just what they look like. Bravo to Oscar Nunez for asking about Arizona's new law. Miss Oklahoma's answer was surprising, she managed to stay rather neutral about the issue which for her is a good thing.
Ok lokstah, I'll give it to you. It is just a card played in haste and it is really no big deal. Not to mention it is very fun to argue with opposing parties and to call each other stereotypes. And I dont have thin skin, Im just in touch with my emotional side....
wow, a lot of these comments make me want to hate people in general. racism is alive and well in the US.
i really think there are bigger and more important issues to debate about then the fact that a legal immigrant won the Miss USA pageant. unless, of course, the Miss USA pageant is the single most important event of your life.
i'm going to make a bold assumption here. you say "racial profiling"; i'll say vast majority of persons here unlawfully are of hispanic heritage.
as such, do the facts and percentages support an argument of racial profiling? i think not.
and why is your answer irrelevant?? are you saying persons here unlawfully (hispanics?) should receive preferential treatment above and beyond the rules and laws others follow lest there be the threat of "racial profiling"?
Don't care who won. Do care that the question was a BS question for a beauty pageant. But did like her answer, even though it certainly kept her from winning.
Gee, I thought the person asking the question was President Obama's Aunt, just trying to find a way to get her green card.
To all those rude close minded commentators:
Geesh, People grow up...times are changing--apparently many can't move forward, still stuck on the past of: "this is our and that is yours...we are a better race/color/height/size/ or whatever... so, we take what's yours and make it ours. (a.k.a imperialism)
where are our moral values? before posting degrading comments!
it says that was in 2007...
@Cosmeticdoc: besides, let's be honest. The "racism card," as you describe it, is often be played in haste. We can agree on that. But is it as alien and rash a claim as you're suggesting? Scroll up through the dozens upon dozens of comments here, from average Americans, concerning Miss Fakih. I defy you to feign incredulousness again, in earnest, as to how racism could possibly slip into American social debate.
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I just realized instead of telling my family to apply for visa to come to the U.S. from China for my wedding, I should have told them to go through Mexico and come to San Francisco that way. the best way to advertise this is to protest against Arizona's new law and give amnesty to all the illegal immigrants.
just don't be surprised next we'll have 10 million Chinese ppl showing up. let me think...how many of those 1.3 billion ppl would like to come to America? maybe my mom doesn't have to learn English after all although she's getting pretty good after all these years of ESL.
Comseticdoc: "The issue isn’t that liberals disagree; but HOW they disagree. Instead of responding civilly they, as I said, come up with these extreme conclusions of we “intolerants” being “racist”."
OH, I see. It's not the sticks, but the stones? Don't be silly, Doc. You're identifying patterns in social debate and discourse–sure, they exist. Conservatives sometimes find themselves subject to hasty claims of racism. Liberals, conservsely, find themselves the target of claims of un-Americanism. Conservatives are denoucned as fascists; liberals, as commies or hippies. American debate is lively and full of "cards" played in haste.
Why your uniquely thin skin? Why the martyr complex?
Chris, no, apparently not. She was raised in Queens, NY, where she attended a Catholic school–and, apparently, there are Christians in her family–but she identifies as a Shia Muslim.
@Lokstah: The issue isn’t that liberals disagree; but HOW they disagree. Instead of responding civilly they, as I said, come up with these extreme conclusions of we “intolerants” being “racist”. Liberals have this habit of immediately pulling the “race card”. Just like if someone didn’t vote for Obama it was because we were “racist” not because we didn’t agree with his political views. While in reality the liberals who voted for him because he was black were just as racist as those who didn’t vote for him because he was. This is “argument” is going nowhere; in conclusion liberals are hateful people who love to call people racist. I’m done.
Agreed, Halo. A real American hottie.
@JIM: Because that's not what I said. You asked whether I felt there was anything discriminatory with "insisting that everyone follow the law."
My answer is no, but that's irrelevant. My complain isn't that "insisting that everyone follow the law is disciminatory." My concern, rather, is that SB1070, and, to an extent, HB2162, will serve to encourage racial profiling in the state of Arizona.
She is so beautiful! And a great representation of America…
funny. i was wondering the same thing about your posts!
if there's nothing discriminatory, why the hell all the uproar, claims of racial profiling, nazism (from another post, obviously), etc, etc??
To all of the people making racist comments...You need serious help and should ask god for forgivness. Why does miss USA have to be born here? You do not have to be "born" here to be an American. Miss USA came here as an infant, grew up in America and is just as American as anyone else. We are all immigrants in one way or another and DIVERSITY is what makes the USA so great! I am pround to be an American and proud that my country is full of all types of people. No matter the race, religion or whatever of someone we are all Americans and that is all that should matter! LOVE & PEACE!!
Isn't the winner a Christian?
Not sure what the big deal is, he really didn't ask her opinion about the specifics of the Arizona Law. He just asked if it should be decided by the state or the federal government.
@JIM: "i'll ask again, since you so artfully dodge my question the first time: "what is discriminatory insisting everyone follows the law?" it's not that hard........"
I was sincere when I claimed I couldn't figure out, in your previous post, what the hell you were asking. There's nothing "discriminatory" about "insisting everyone follows the law." I never suggested there was. Neither did Oscar Nunez.
Do you have a relevant point, or question?
Nunez thought he was at a political debate. He's gone next year, wonderful!! The event is a pageant and not a serious debate in my view about such a divisive and painful issue facing America.
I believe Arizona's law is very troubling and ultimately will lead to horrible results.
It is required that Ms. USA is American by citizenship but not by nationality, just as many elected public offices are. Selecting an Arab Muslim is a step in the right direction in healing the wounds of the racial and religious divide in this country. Those who oppose diversity need to crawl back to the caves where they came from. As for Nunez posing the question, it is a timely question that everyone needs to wrestle with. Ms USA needs questions like these to educate and to inform its audience that beyond the glitz and superficialities of this pageant, there are real world issues that we have to deal with. Kudos to Nunez for having the ball to bring it up.
yoiu should have stopped right after your first sentence...."of course.......". that is the question. that's the ONLY question! illegal immigrants! the "primary directive" of the bill is to address "persons unlawfully present"! 'nuff said!
i'll ask again, since you so artfully dodge my question the first time: "what is discriminatory insisting everyone follows the law?" it's not that hard........
fortunately, i'm not in need of half a dozen phd's to figure that one out!!! but, give it your best effort.
Cosmeticdoc, whatever. Your point strikes me as having precious little meaning beyond–and I paraphrase–"liberals too often disagree with conservatives." You clarify your position, for instance, by suggesting that what really irks you is when "individuals ... chastise people, like Ms Oklahoma, for voicing their true opinion."
What you're describing, Doc, is an opinion–"true" or otherwise–meeting with opposition in a public forum. Whether for sport or noble social/political gain, that's a practice we're all blessed with the proud right to engage in. Ms. Oklahoma's opinions are no more invulnerable to attack than mine are.
All sounds pretty orchestrated to me.
Hand a muslim beauty queen contestant the crown and stir up a lot of, for lack of a better word, "dialogue" to make the Miss USA pageant somehow relevant in the 21st century.
Stop being programmed, sheeple.
It is good that she became Miss America, but there are 2 Iranian born Muslim girls who has done before much more by gaining the contest in the host country and ranking higher in international contest, so please CNN be fare and comprhehensive in your covergare by quoting
Shermine Shahrivar (Iranian: born 1982 in Iran) became Miss Deutschland (Miss Germany) in 2004 and then Miss Europe in 2005 in France.
Nazanin Afshin-Jam ( Iranioan: born 1979 in Iran) became Miss Canad in 2003 and ranked second in Miss World in China
Lokstah:I believe you have misunderstood me; I absolutely promote debate and discourse along with the right of free speech and opinion. However, that is irrelevant to what I was referring to, when I said the “Intolerance of Intolerance”, to whom I was referring to were the individuals who chastise people, like Ms Oklahoma, for voicing their true opinion. They accuse one of being “racist and intolerant” just because their views are different than theirs. They jump to an extreme conclusion based solely on the fact that they disagree. Not only that, but, they themselves are being intolerant of the ones they call intolerant. They’re hypocrites. People do have the right to challenge others opinions, however, people shouldn’t be so extreme in their assumptive conclusions and they shouldn’t claim one is being intolerant when they themselves are. I was manly just referring to that particular group of people when I made that comment.
I lived in Arizona many years ago, it was common to have checkpoint where everyone was checked for ID.
@JIM: Rephrase your question. ("What does it mean to be in this country........................what does it mean to be ILLEGAL!!!?? yeah, that's what i thought!!") Share the coherent version–written at a 6th-grade level at least, that is–and we'll talk.
As for your response; well, Jim, of course I "get" that the law is intended to reduce the number of illegal immigrants in Arizona. I suspect that, as written, it will be succesful to some degree. That's not the question. The question is whether or not the primary directive of the bill can be executed without encouraging or mandating racial profiling in AZ, and, further, if it will reduce its own efficacy by degrading trust and cooperation between law enforcement and local communities. As written, SB1070 all but declares its intent to obligate police officers to practice racial profiling.
Lokstah – yes, it is an incorrect question, because that is NOT an appropriate interpretation of the law. I've got it open on my desktop right now, and it does NOT state ANYWHERE that AZ law enforcement officers can "check the citizenship of ANYONE they believe to be in the country illegally".
The added very clear stipulations in the actual law corroborates my statement that the question is unquestionably correct.
Congratulations to the New Miss America, I hope you hold your head high and represent your country with honor. Too many are hoping you fail; show them that you are proud to be an American.
It's amazing how a beauty pageant–A BEAUTY PAGEANT–would stir up controversy. Isn't this pageant a privately owned business? If so, do the American thing–choose not to buy or watch this stuff.
Congratulate the winner and move on.
yes, it is a logical ASSUMPTION to make that hispanics will be targeted as a result of arizona's new law. however, it doesn't actually STATE that; it doesn't state "Mexican", "Cuban" "Puerto Rican", "Panamanian", "Columbian", "Saudi Arabian", etc, etc. yes, i can read too!! it says, among other things.........."persons unlawfully present"!!! what is it about that no one gets???
now, you can enlighten me. what does it mean to be in this country..............a country founded by, yes, immigrants........ a country, founded by immigrants who established laws and rules for all to follow..........a country that is thoughtful, caring, and compassionate to all those willing to accept the guidelines established centuries ago, and PROUDLY be called americans....................what does it mean to be ILLEGAL!!!??
yeah, that's what i thought!!
@Elizabeth: I don't know about you, but everytime I come across a conservative spouting Cosemticdoc's (familiar) complaint about the apparent "intolerenace" of liberals, I wonder when a political demographic which prides themselves for toughness amd grit became such thin-skinned weaklings, so resistant to intellectual opposition, discourse, or debate,
How much hate do we need to spread before we realize we are only hurting ourselves?
The sad part is that most of you call yourselves Christians and attend church regularly yet don't know how to love your brothers and sisters as the Bible mandates.
Not to defend terrorists and wrong doers, but a person should not be categorized as one because they look or speak differently. Doing so is just promoting as much HATE as they are.
OMG- We had the lingirie debacle leading up to the pageant, but now it seems as though our new Miss USA was in a strip contest!! Trump is going to flip his wig!
@Alianna I sispect they do if they don't look Mexican enouhg to the police
First, ....Really, I'm at a LOST for words at some of the HATE that is being spewed out under the guise of PATRIOTISM–
I KNOW it must be HARD to see the "OLD AMERICA" (i.e., racist, segregated,) fall, but honestly, it's ABOUT time. THIS ARTICLE ALONE shows the UTTER disgust at the fact that "THE BARBIE" image is NO LONGER the standard of BEAUTY in AMERICA and AROUND THE WORLD, and it's literally "killing everyone softly" who THOUGHT they were INDEED superior because of that B.S. HITLER propagated. What's surprising to me is that THE WINNER only got a small mention towards the end which carried a slightly negative tone. Obviously, WHOEVER wrote it looks SIMIALR to MISS OKLAHOMA and is quite UPSET to say the least....................
People still watch these pageants? I guess when you figure how many years it took people to realize professional wrestling wasn't actual wrestling, it all makes sense.
DH said: "The question regarding the AZ law is incorrect and so is not a suitable question for anything, much less a pageant."
Huh? Nunez's question was "incorrect?" Which part? The part where he stated, "Arizona’s new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe to be in the country illegally?"
I don't believe that's incorrect at all. I read it as a perfectly fair interpretation of Article 8, Section B of SB1070: http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
I cannot believe the comments here. Rcism and xenophobia to the max. How very disgusting. By the way, since when do you have to be born here to be an American? You can become a citizen you know, so why do some of you think that the fact that she was born somewhere else disqualifies here from being Miss USA? Idiots.
@cosmeticdoc By "intolerance" do you mean asking the opinion-holder to engage in discourse and explain their ideas? Because most of my experience online with ultra right wing proponents is of the "I'm right and you're going to H-ll" variety.
The real question should be "Do you think it's ok for uneducated and criminal people to come to America illegally -mainly from Mexico – and when here sell drugs, commit crimes, not pay a penny in taxes, but use taxpayer resources like health, police, schools, roads, parks, and everything else?"
1. She had every right to win, because regardless of the fact that she wasn't born here, she is indeed a U.S. citizen. This ain't the presidency, folks.
2. We can't know whether the judges sought to make a political statement by selecting her the winner. The best we can do is speculate that either they did or did not, but we can't know, rendering the speculation pointless.
If you want to be PC about it, you could question the make up of the judging panel, assuring that there are as many political left-leaners as right.
3. The question regarding the AZ law is incorrect and so is not a suitable question for anything, much less a pageant. All questions should either be correct or incorrect – real or trick – but you cannot mix and match correct questions with incorrect ones.
you must have a sad existence. Nice way to twist my name. My dad served over 20 years in the ARMY for this country. And were he to live in Arizona, he might be one of many that will be questioned and asked to provide proof that he deserves to be here. Thats why its sad when people like you think you are right. All you guys are looking at is the illegal immigrant part of it and not looking at what it will do to the legal americans here. Your an idiot. look back at the history of this country and if you leave out all the milestones non white americans achieved, this country wouldnt be where it is today. theres room for everyone to be here, get your panties out of your butt and everything just might be ok.
Cosmeticdoc said: "The fact that one cannot express their true opinion is sad, the intolerance of "intolerance" is hypocrisy at its finest. Liberals are ruining this nation."
Absolute bullocks. I defy you to expand upon and defend this position. Debate and discourse–even rigorous debate and discourse-is the backbone of a free society. The principle of 'free speech' hardly protects one from the right to offer their opinions up unopposed. Who told you otherewise, doc?
What a moron! Just like a race-baiting leftist. As is typical, their arrogance is only exceeded by their ignorance.
she's a believe in state's rights? shades of the war over slavery.
The fact that one cannot express their true opinion is sad, the intolerance of "intolerance" is hypocrisy at its finest. Liberals are ruining this nation.
I always get a kick out of people who say things like, "America is for Americans". The United States, along with Canada and Mexico are part of North America. And Central and South American are made up of a number of different nations. So, saying, "America is for Americans" includes folks from ALL,these countries.
Mell: "the media has been pushing a view about this Arizona illegal immigration thing that the American public just isn't buying."
I bought it.
She's a naturalized US citizen who grew up in Queens and went to a Catholic school. That makes her an American and it means her family came to this country the right way.
...and unless you are a Native American, I'm willing to bet your ancestors came to this country the same way at some point.
DISGUSTING that there are so many people that are prejudiced against people of other religions. To all those Christains out there, you do realize that the KuKluxKlan, Nazis and child molesting priests are all members of that religion but do not represent all of the members. Why so much hatred toward Muslims just because of a crazy radical group? If you are a Christian, didn't you learn anything from the teachings?
I am a proud decendent of immigrants – we all are (unless you are NATIVE AMERICAN). My relatives came to this country for the opportunities, freedom of religion, freedom of speech (which we thankfully still have).
the media has been pushing a view about this Arizona illegal immigration thing that the American public just isn't buying.
Maybe her crowning will ease Muslim/Islamic terrorists tentions in America. Yeah, right. I predict it gets worse because now one of their own has been "westernized" to the max by being made an object of beauty, looked at by American men.
oh stop crying and complaining, she is so pretty and she deserves to win, who cares if she was not born in the US, I am sure she is a citizen now so stop, she is an American now. I am happy for her.
Linda said: "Still sorry that she won, tho I don't think it was a real "WIN"
Linda, it's official. She won. Carry on.
Alianna said: "...you cant tell by looking at a hispanic that they are illegal and i shouldnt have to prove, to anyone, that im in my own country legally, based on the color of my skin or my appearance. It degrading that anyone can even agree with it."
Exactly. This is exactly why I am against this law. Not because of how it might treat illegal immigrants, but because of the way it might treat American citizens or legal immigrants who happen to be latino. No white guy is ever going to have to worry about this law, that's why so many people in that state are for it – it doesn't affect their civil liberties.
These questions shouldn't be asked at this ceremony. This is a beauty contest and there's no brains envolved. Trump is an educated moran.
Mel said: "For the record Miss FAKIH are not Arab she is LEBANESE"
@Mel, for your information, that's not an entirely accurate statement. By most standards–including those of most Lebanese citizens–Lebanon is, in fact, ethnically Arab. A local dialect of Arabic is the predominant language, and ancient occupiers of the region include prominent Arab founder empires.
Political correctedness says persons want to live in peace and tolerance , no matter race or religion. Guess what? Some of you are making sure that aint gonna happen
Robert, your right!! It does already happen. so why make it a law that promotes it and could potentially, make the situation worse. ANYBODY doing something illegal should get arrested.
And the federal government does have a law in place, thats why they are ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS already. But you cant tell by looking at a hispanic that they are illegal and i shouldnt have to prove, to anyone, that im in my own country legally, based on the color of my skin or my appearance. It degrading that anyone can even agree with it. In a perfect world, it would work. But this isnt a perfect world, and thats putting alot of trust on police to keep that boundary of racial profiling and just following the law.
To the person who said that americans traveling in Mexico have to provide proof they are there legally!!! Do Mexicans in mexico have to prove they are there legally!!
Hey Doug you anti liberal early responder, you don't know what you are talking about, What does Clarence Thomas even have to do with this discussion anyway? Americans voted in droves for the change Obama represents. Rebubs like you have tried to scare Americans into remaining in the dark ages. Wake up, it's the 21st century now.
@Robert, I respectfully disagree (thanks, though, for the measured, thoughtful response). Your post reflects what I'd characterize as a naive disregard for larger patterns of racial profiling and harrassment which I believe already exist. Your experiences as a white man living in Detroit (like my experiences as a white man living in Oakland CA) don't, in my opinion, reflect a larger history and pattern of regular profiling and tension between the police and white America–conversely, though, I regard the ability of police departments to maintain respectful and productive relationships with minority communities already a tenuous balancing act. SB1070, as written, seems bound to encourage further reliance by your average officer on unreliable superficial methods bound, in the end, to result in increased profiling, and in some cases harrassment.
Ann Marie Lynch said "Why didn't the Hispanic male judge ask a black contestant that question or the Arab? Shouldn't he have asked an immigrant that question?"
Um, I'm pretty sure that the questions, while pre-determined, were given to contestants randomly. But don't let that get in the way of your racism.
After reading the remarks in these sections, I can't help but feel utterly disgusted by the racism on display here. Who cares that she is Arab American? She is no less an American than any of the rest of you are. To all you bigots spouting all these idiotic posts, I can pretty much gaurantee that you did nothing to be called an AMERICAN aside from being born here. Here's an idea, put in your time in the military and earn the right to call yourself an American. If not, then shut the hell up – no one wants to hear your ignorant views!
For those people who watched the pageant last night...did anyone else notice the lack of substance to the womens' answers? It was so embarrassing, I had to turn the station by the 4th contestant!
Personally, I'm glad political questions were asked. If Miss USA is supposed to represent both beauty AND brains, why is it so far fetched that these women have some knowledge of worldly issues? I was none too impressed by any of their responses–the ones I watched, that is.
Ok – here it is again since so many people still haevn't gotten it –
IT WAS STATED that she was not born in the US but moved here as a young child. This was stated several times – so again: THE NEW MISS USA WAS NOT BORN ON THE USA.
Still sorry that she won, tho I don't think it was a real "WIN"
Just an FYI, Miss USA was NOT born in the USA. She was born in Lebanon and moved to the USA when she was little!
For the record Miss FAKIH are not Arab she is LEBANESE
OK everyone – this is not an issue that is worth getting so worked up on. Listen, the newly crowned Miss USA met the criteria at the state level to entre the Michigan state pagent, and met the criteria to enter the Miss USA pagent – so she has every right to be chosen Miss USA. Would you all feel better if she was anything else but a Muslim. There are truly bigger issues in the world today then the Miss USA pagent. Please everyone – get a grip!
Those denying the presence of badlfaced, shallow bigotry and racism on these boards, witness recent comments by Mrs. Marie and CBS.
I agree with her answer 100%! Arizona just needed to do what the federal government has REFUSED to do! It's past time we (states) took the law into our own hands and ENFORCED IT!!! I know people that live in Oklahoma and they are overrun with illegals too!!!
However, for those of you that thing a beauty pagent isn't political, think again! Everything becomes political or "racist" today! Political correctness run amock!!!
Right go Lebanon go home you ass hole.
That muslim woman must be illegal. Her parents came to this country on a visitor visa and got lost in the crowd. That's what they all do and true citizens pay for their free upbringing. Do that in any arab country and you are beheaded as the enemy of the country and of allah.
She must have plenty of plastic surgery. I have yet to see a pretty arab woman.
Dave....really??? The "woman" wont be LITERALLY stoned here, which is what used to be great about here. But the stupidity which people face this is just as bad.
And Native Americans not having a law back then makes what happened to them ok? They had their own laws of living which "Americans" didnt care about. Dont justify it.
Some of you are the most racist people i've encountered. If she was white, there'd be no issue. Crap! It's disgusting!
moderators are on me so i was rushed, embarrassed, there ya happy alienaana
she is Lebanese...GO LEBANON GO :)
Why are people getting worked up over this? What merit or relevance does a Miss Anything pageant have? It's the dumbest event people engage in for entertainment .
That Lebanese chick is gross. Sewn in hair aside she's just not on the Caliber of Miss Oklahoma. Why didn't the Hispanic male judge ask a black contestant that question or the Arab? Shouldn't he have asked an immigrant that question? Donald just proves himself to be grosser and grosser as time goes on. Nunez was profiling and prejudiced against Miss Oklahoma's whiteness. Miss USA is now about answering political football questions to white girls to get them pitched as racist. The entire contest was fixed for ratings and that's just gross, like Donald and Nunez. Give me a break about racial profiling, seriously, as if I'm not a target for blacks and Arabs? Too bad if Mexicans are the ones coming over the border illegally, then they should be kicked out. Amazing that the word illegal somehow gives them political power. The lines are going to be really drawn on this one now and I'm for the AZ law.
Immigration controls who enters and stays in the country. Since when is Arizona a separate country? Is it not part of the union of the United States? States should not be able to pass laws that check immigration status. This is the responsibility of the federal government. Just because there is no clear consensus at the federal level on how to handle immigration issues does not mean states can preempt and devise their own laws. I am waiting to see the backlash from non-white citizens when this law is going to be enforced. Arizona's economy is going suffer and will need federal bail-out money to keep its racist state government working.
DUH: "Any time I think this country has moved beyond its racist roots, I read the comments section on any hot-button topic and I'm brought back into reality."
With sadness, I concur.
Whatever happened to:
Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tossed to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
on the inside of the Statue of Liberty.....
@Lokstah I don't know that is does. I think that for the most part police use a reasonableness test. I am white and have lived in around Detroit all my life, this made me a minority (Detroit is about 90% black). It was not that uncommon for me to be pulled over at night if I was in some friends neighborhood at night. That fact that I was white and where it would be unusual for me to be was enough for the police to pull me over and check my license, registration and proof of insurance. I considered this to be reasonable. You can bet that in predominately Latino neighborhoods they will not be profiling Latinos as much as the press would have you believe. As for a Latino in a "white" neighborhood, it's no different than me in a black neighborhood.
I am not much into beauty pageants for I believe that women are surely intellectually capable of so much more than simply looking perfectly beautiful. However, I feel quite sorry for those who are appalled by the fact that Miss USA 2010 is an Arab American and a Muslim. In fact she is Lebanese (like Danny Thomas, Kahlil Gibran, Fairouz, Queen Nour of Jordan, Elie Saab, ...),from a magnificent civilization of 9000 years which taught the entire world the alphabets, how to read and write, how to travel and reach out to other peoples. And yes, she is Muslim (like Mohamad Ali Clay, Cat Stevens, Karim Abdul Jabar,...), and like 99% of true Muslims around the Globe, our Miss USA for 2010 reflects, peace, love, humility, forgiveness and tolerance.
Hope one day you realize that, get out of your darkness and see the light.
Any time I think this country has moved beyond its racist roots, I read the comments section on any hot-button topic and I'm brought back into reality.
We are nation of immigrants!! I'm happy to see a Lebanese immigrant win. She was the prettiest anyway. Just think if she were walking the streets of Arizona she could be stopped and questioned simply becuz of the color of her skin!! Open your eyes America and embrace the changing face of America!
@JIM: have you read the SB1070? Link below, for your benefit. It seems absolutely clear that the primary directive of the law–Article 8, section B–simply can't be executed without encouraging, if not mandating, racial profiling. I'd love to hear your enlightened expression of why I'm mistaken.
That's a great question regardless of her response...Kudos to Nunez.
Often times these people are given softball questions or they aren't given anything controversial to respond to.
How can you say we are not American,s .Yes we have gotten hateful Those Mexican,s fly there flag in our school,s they won,t there right,s they have no right,s here they were not born here.They need to go home and try asking for there right,s over there fly there damn flag in there own country.get welfare over there food stamp.s housing all they are doing is draining our county.Wake up im tired of not saying what i fill .well now i,am send them all home and you people that won't them here go to Mexico with them because your not a American.
Relax folks! It just a beauty pageant! Who cares what a contestant thinks?
Pageants days are long gone. Time to get rid of them, also the Toddler and Tiaras should be trashed. Awful and degrading. These young women and moms should find other things to do, like maybe preparing a real home-cooked meal for once.
Larry, her answer was, indeed, fine. A fairly standard pagent response: she threw a prefab cookie to both sides of the issue and moved on. The article, though, is primarily about a crowd which attempted to boo down Oscar Nunez for daring to engage a delicate social/political question.
wow, a pageant player with a cogent thought....never saw that coming
I'm truly horrified by the amount of racism and hate I see on this board. But on the other hand I'm so encouraged by the people I see who bravely defend an America that is thoughtful, caring, and compassionate.
It's like the very best and worst of my country all in one discussion board. Scary! Wonderful! More scary!
since when is it "discrimination" or "racial profiling" to insist that everyone follows the law?? it just goes to show you how far our country has sunk that states are now being forced to create laws making it a crime to be in the country...............................illegally!!!! am i missing something??
way to go 'zona!!!!!! hope more states fall in line!!! lord knows, the federal government isn't going to!!!
Her winning doesn't surprise me, Muslim is the in thing these days.
Why watch anyway? Waste of time really.
I'm deeply disappointed in these comments. My family is a bunch of European-descended caucasians, and my sister happened to be born in the Phillippeans because my father was in the Navy and stationed abroad. Is she therefore not American enough for you? Get over yourselves.
Not trying to ruffle any feather but..... Is this woman on the "No Fly" list?
If so then she won't be able to perform her duties.
Of course im being sarcastic. :o)
Excellent answer Miss USA. What do you think the answer would have been if Miss USA were Hispanic? Just wondering.
Cons, keep whining. Like something a pageant contestant (or judge) matters in the least.
The Arizona law as originally passed was racist and wrong. The modified version is more acceptable.
Teabaggers are the biggest whiners around. They are pandered to by the Conservative (read:almost all) media, and you're not getting your "country back" unless you can invent a time machine. It's not the 1950's anymore, and that's a good thing.
Given the fact that this question was more appropriate for politicians as opposed to beauty queens (do we really care what these ladies think about racial profiling???), her answer really wasn't that bad.
Robert: "If I was Mexican(nationality) and white I sure as heck would carry my proof of Mexican citizenship. If I am an American in Mexico, I sure as heck am going to carry my proof of American citizenship."
Absolutely. That's a point which doesn't address the concerns, however. Legal immigrants or resident aliens should, to be prudent, carry proof of their right to reside legally. The overarching controversy, though, concerns whether or not the law–particularly Article 8 Section B, the primary directive–can be exectued without encouraging (and nearly mandating) statewide racial profiling.
wow, to all the people that are complaining that a muslim won or seem to hate the fact that more ethnic women are winning, would you all feel better if white women won more pagents???
stop hiding behind your BS reasons for being upset. you are pist because a white woman didnt win
And its a sad day when our veterans embarrass us. cant even spell the word right anyway!!
ok, dont you realize that in many counties this woman would be stoned due to Shira laws?
And to Alianna – you have to be breaking a law for it to be illegal – the native americans had no such statute if I recall.
Miss USA pageant is still around? Weird.
@Mike Tamborski What do you think they do in Mexico if they think you are there illegially? If I was Mexican(nationality) and white I sure as heck would carry my proof of Mexican citizenship. If I am an American in Mexico, I sure as heck am going to carry my proof of American citizenship.
Drum Daddy May 17th, 2010 1:43 pm ET
Geez louise! So much hatred & bigotry on here. Darn, people, can't we just try to be civil???
The short answer is "No". Take for example Rob's answer above.
Take our country back. What that really means is take our country backwards. If you don't think like him, look like him, then you are not a "Real American". I does not matter if you actually are a citizen as is Ms Fakih. It's hatred and bigorty masquerading as patriotistm. These people need to go talk to some Native Americans about who the real Americans are.
look arab countries, we do like you we swear! look we even made half of one of you miss usa! can we be friends now. what a joke! it is a sad day when a veteran is imbarrassed of his country!
EVERYBODY HERE IS A DESCENDANT OF AN ILLEGAL IMMIGRANT UNLESS YOUR NATIVE AMERICAN. THE REASON WHY THIS COUNTRY IS GOING TO HELL IS BECAUSE PEOPLE EVERY WHERE SEEM TO FORGET THAT. Most illegal immigrants do the jobs that no one else wants to do, janitors, nannies, farm workers, construction workers, the list goes on!! And before you say that they are ruining our country, look at how LEGAL americans are treating their own country. Look at how filled our Prisons and state jails are with LEGAL OFFENDERS!! Stop stop pointing fingers at other races becasuse you dont want to look in your own backyard to find the problem.
As for her answer, she said the right thing for her. Anyone on here who agrees that much with law in Arizona needs to go on and move there, so we can keep all the stupid people in one state. What happens when they move on to being able to stop YOU because of the color of your skin. You "americans" so upset with how this country has integrated, and you complain about minorities taking advantage of the system, your still tearing down the minorities who go to college, who werent on wellfare, who made something of themselves.....ie, OUR PRESIDENT!!!! So shut up and relax, and be a part of the solution, instead of helping to create new problems.
I've never seen so much ignorance on one page! lol... The new Miss USA won a beauty pageant – not political office. She's a legal US Citizen, even if she wasn't born in the is country, and that makes her eligible for the crown per the rules of the contest. And for all those ignorant fools crying the blues about her not being a "Real" American because she wasn't born here and how "WRONG" that is – wake up and smell the Fritos. Last time I checked the governor of the state of California was born in Austria! Bah hah hah hah.... Some people really need to pick their battles and stop hiding their racism and lack of education behind their so-called "Patriotism". Just sayin'.
Wow, way to kiss the budie of illegals and arabs/muslims. Last year it was the "alternative lifestyle" folks that had their tushies kissed, this year it is the latest "in" crowd/issue. Just imagine if space aliens land...next years winner will have six eyes and tentacles and still be called Miss USA.
What a joke...
I dont understand you guys keep saying she's muslim, she's muslim so is the president of USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@King James. It isn't a sign that our leadership is weak, it's a sign that our independence is strong. We get to fell how we feel, debate the issue without worrying about becoming political prisoners. We get to make laws that some think go to far and some think don't go far enough. A strong dessent today can just mean that we are not ready for it YET. Our leaders and leadership directly reflecte the amount of effort we put into the process. If you don't like a low then protest it or call or write your Congressmen. One thing is for sure, our leaders live and die by public opinion. It only falls apart when everybody thinks that everyone else has the same opinion as they do.
God bless America.
To all of you so called "Americans" unless you are of American Indian background, you are not American either....
I am truely sad by the responces here in this blog. We are suppose to be living in America, land of the free and were all of us are equal. I am a firm beleiver that illigal immigration is a huge problem in the United states. The name says it "ILLEGAL" immiration. This is not legal. that been said. If you are legally here and arean american what seems otbe the problem with participating in any contest were americans are represented. Americans are a mixture of races, we are not completely pure. We really need ot be careful on what we say and above all be informed and have all the facts. Taking without knowing and hearing the entire story always bring problems.
Miss USA congratulations on a job well done I wish you the best in your reign and represeantation of this wonderful country.
It would seem to me the question was about states rights, and the contestants opinion on whether state legislation should be superseded by the federal legislation. He was right to point out that everyone should listen to the actual question. Using the Arizona statute was an example of the question he was asking and not the question itself. It could just as easily have been phrased in a variety of ways incorporating the 10th or 17th amendments. Instead a more topical, easily recognizable and still pertinent example was used.
Mom: "I think that we should just rename this country. It's definitely NOT united anymore.."
Don't fool yourself. It's easy to get down, but do you honestly think we're more–or less–"united" than when the colonies first adopted the name? Hardly. Heck; the country's been ripped to shreds by civil war. We're an ugly, tattered bunch, but we'll keep plugging along beneath the "United States" banner.
This entire thread of responses is proof that large numbers of Americans need to be on mood altering drugs. You all need to have a Coke and a smile.
Just to clear up what is being said about Ms.Fakih's birth place, here is a quote from "People" magazine...
"Fakih, 23, was born in Lebanon, moved to the U.S. as a baby, was raised in New York and moved with her family to Dearborn, Mich., in 2003, according to the Detroit Free Press."
I think that we should just rename this country. It's definitely NOT united anymore..and oh yea, Alex...I think you've got some white in you. Love, mom ;-)
anger issues- america is not filled with hateful people, just americans tired of being taken over by illegal immigrants. and its about time someone starts doing something about them. and as for miss usa, what in the world were they thinking.
Miss Michigan's answer to her question was awful. Saying birth control pills are a controled substance and I believe she said they are free and should be covered by insurance as well. I was cheering for Miss Maine, but Mrs. Trump's question was just awful. Virginia would have been my second choice.
Arizonàs law and new queen there conflict policies . Congratulations queen good example . Renember Inmigrants make`s country.
All of you who support the Arizona law, I suspect you are illegal. please show me proof of your citizenship. Otherwise I will have no choice but do perform a citizen's arrest and drag you to the Arizona authorities so they can sort it out.
See, it's that easy, and that is why the law sucks? Why can't all of you see that? If you think it's more important to protect our borders than protect people who are here legally, then yes, you are xenophobic and racist.
@Irs, actually is says ANY LAWFULL CONTACT.
One thing is certain......by reading all these posts it is obvious that there is plenty of tension and unrest in this country. It is a sign that our leadership is weak, fractured, and unable to bring this nation together. What started off as a pageant issue grew into racial profiling, immigration, and political banter. All pageants are a joke so don't get so wound up about it. Be more concerned about who's running this country, what direction we're going in, and all the dis-harmony growing daily. These are bad times in America my friends.
Mike, that's stupid. I suppose there's a long history of obviously undeserving women of color beating out white contestants? Oh, no? You mean you're just spouting off more martyr complex gibberish? Got it. Thanks.,
"This is what we mean by taking our country back libs, we want an America where people are free to speak their minds and form their own views and beliefs no matter what they look like. Every Democrat in America is against this, for proof just say the name Clarence Thomas, they will admit it freely."
Doug, hearing that name brings visions of pubic hair on a soda can to me!
Wow, you would think this girl was running for president. Dear lord... its only a pagent. I guess people would rather have the blond with the bad plastic surgery win. LOL.
On the other hand... it is rather interesting to see how many bigots are angry about who won the pagent.
FRS: page 2, article 8, section B. Read it.
dont know why white woman even get in this contest anymore-so scared to vote against ethnic woman in these contests
JammyDevil, I completely agree. The winner looks about as American as can be. Heck–she was raised in Queens NY, attended Catholic grade school, grew up in a mixed Christian/Muslim household, presently lives in Michigan, where she obtained a degree from UM in economics. She's the posterchild for Americana, frankly. It's difficult to suggest otherwise unless you're a bigot.
The question was an absolute LIE – poor girl. Hey – this isn't true – “Arizona’s new immigration statute authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe to be in the country illegally,” – IF YOU READ THE LAW, the cops can NOT stop 'anyone' to ask for immigration status. The statute is very clear, that the cops can ONLY check on immigration status if someone has been detained for a crime – such as car theft, robbery, murder, etc.
Why don't people read this law and actually think about what is says. It doesn't allow profiling at all !!! It's a perfectly sensible thing to do in the event of a crime being committed.
Members of the Souix Nation will gladly escort you to the border!
Wow...this country really is split in 2. All this anger and rage over a beauty pageant. 21st century civil war anyone? Country is collapsing a la Rome. And it's all self inflicted damage. Need to hurry up and book my ticket outta here. You ppl need to lighten up though.....seriously. Take that piece of coal out....should be a diamond by now.
Jamie, I've read the bill (AZ SB1070) and I think it's disasterous. Furthermore, "free speech" has nothing to do with this newsstory; I defy you to explain why you've raised the issue.
So funny that all these conservitive Americans are so up in arms why an 'Arab-American' isn't American enough to hold the Miss USA crown.
Yet on the other hand THEY are so proud of their heritage... Irish American, Italian-American and so on. You are all nothing more than the b@st@rdized offspring of Europeans – who exterminated the real Americans of this country 200 years ago.
The winners are going to be selected based on what hot button political isuuse is happening at the time. It just so happens we are at war with the muslim world. The judges think they are doing us a favor by selecting her and showing the Muslim world we are tolerant. I will tell you selecting her or not will not stop the Muslim fanatics from wanting to destroy eveything you hold dear. Wake up America!
Big_Bubba said, "Spoken like typical Liberal Airhead. Miss USA contest is about talent and scholarships and beauty. Not politics!"
Bubba, spoken like a typical conservative airhead.You're right: the pagent is about scholarship and beauty. What bizarre, insular and anti-intellectual world do you live in, where current events–and the ability to comprehend them, and express opinions about them–aren't a scholarly pursuit? The pagent has long, long, LONG asked its contestants to stand before the panel and answer questions relevant to social and political issues of the day.
Oh, the pots sure are calling the kettles black here today. So many of you are screaming about how "libs" suppress free speech, simply by virtue of disagreeing or disapproving of ideas they find troubling. Isn't the story, though, about how the crowd attempted to boo down Oscar Nunez for his presumably left-slanted question?
When did conservatives–so proud of their toughness and grit–become so thin-skinned, defensive, and prone to martyr complexes?
@ Tuffytur LOL!!!
Brooke, while I do not agree with JoeG I do support his right to freedom of speech, regardless of it's contents. In America we have that right (until the liberals deem it otherwise like every other comprimise this country has made.) Additionally you said "And, based on the other comments posted here, you all tend to feel the same way as Mr. Joe G here." which, being someone who read all the comments to get to yours, leads me to disagree with you and accuse you of not reading all the comnets but getting so riled at JoeG's comment you immediately jumped to the comment box yourself.
P.S. shoutout if youve actually read Arizona senate bill 1070, I HAVE. if not here's the link for you. http://www.azleg.gov/legtext/49leg/2r/bills/sb1070s.pdf
I am completely blown away by all the comments on here!!
As long as you are here legally, who cares! I am not saying illegal immigration is ok, because it is not.
The newly crowned Miss USA is Arab AMERICAN....she was born in the USA...our country was founded on FREEDOM OF RELIGION as well as other freedoms we all enjoy!
This just shows how small minded so many americans are, and that is a shame. There is so much to learn from other cultures and so much beauty in those cultures as well as our own. There are extremists in EVERY religion and while I do not condone what the extremists are doing, we can not fault EVERYONE of that religion/ethnicity for the views/actions of a few.
she made a reasoned answer to an unreasonable question from an idot while infront of a hostile crowd...she did great!!!!
As for the winner...if she is a legal immigrant and citizen leave her alone....
Let's get our facts straight people....she was not born in America.
And why is it that people can post things like what Alex said about white people and it's ok??? Obviously white people ARE the minority in this country these days. I'm really sick of it being ok to say whatever about a white person but everyone else is off limits! HYPOCRITES!
alex May 17th, 2010 12:52 pm ET
"Mom, you were right. White people are evil to the core!"
Really?? Are these women trying to win a beauty pagent or run for office? These questions have no place in this pagent. Just ask the same stuff about world peace and let them smile and wave.
If you are tired of the anti-Americans and the illegals, remember to VOTE out the progressives and liberals and take this nation back.
Seriously people – lighten up – it's a pageant!
I was impressed by the winner's beautiful face and her hair. I donot care what her ethnic origin is nor do I care what my neighbors are (in my neighborhood). I do care how how people present themselves when in public situations. Some, maybe most of the comments expressed here on this blog are ugly, hatefilled and mean spirited.
May she have peace during her year as Miss USA.
She spoke English, tho, that was a plus
Back in 1983, Miss USA and daughter of an Arab-American and as good as an american which is great looking at diversity that enriches this country. No issue back then so why not call current Miss USA an American but appreciate her as well as other people heritage.
Geez louise! So much hatred & bigotry on here. Darn, people, can't we just try to be civil???
Most of you people are so racist, it's unbelievable!!! Why don't you try to go back 76 years ago to Germany and see how racial profiling worked out then!!!
The fact that she is muslim has nothing to do with her nationality you bunch of moronic racists.
Get off your lazy butt, get a job and stop complaining that it's "all these people's" fault that you don't have one!
Alana: Spoken like typical Liberal Airhead. Miss USA contest is about talent and scholarships and beauty. Not politics!
I 100% agree that we need to reign in illegal immigration on all fronts (including human trafficking/slave trade that still exists about which no one seems to want to talk!). However, some of the posts here would be hilarious, if they weren't so misinformed. First of all, Mr. Nunez' question was a legitimate one; should the issue be handle by states or the Federal government. It was white folks' knee-jerk reaction to hearing a Latino even bring up an immigration-related topic that caused the booing. "We assume we know where he's going with this, so let's shout him down" never works in mature debate! And, Ed Weirdness, he didn't ask the question of the "Arab girl" (she's a WOMAN by the way) because his question had already been drawn from the fishbowl by Ms. Oklahoma who drew before Ms. Michigan. As for itzjuswrong assertion that Miss U.S. (sic) wasn't born here, firstly there's no rule that Miss U.S.A. candidates have to be born here. However, Ms. Michigan was born in Dearborn to immigrant parents. (Uh oh, I smell another birther witchhunt brewing! Let's make tea!) If we go with itzjuswrong's philosophy, then only Native American women should ever have won the Miss U.S.A. crown. For the record, none have due to the Eurocentric influence on defining beauty that is dominant in American culture.
@cj... if she were a Muslim, she would not be permitted by her religion to be in such a pageant.
Again, the press gets it wrong as do you.
She is a Christian.
did you read the article there Rick. Clueless would mean you are responding just to retort or respond to someones comment without reading the article "Fakih is thought to be the first Arab American and Muslim to take the Miss USA crown, according to the Detroit Free Press."
It doesn't matter who was asked what or how pretty they are or if they fall over the trail of their dress onto their face – THE MUSLIM IMMIGRANT WAS GOING TO WIN. For everyone who thinks this is some kind of victory wait until the back lash from the Muslim community on the nature of her appearance on this show.
It is so sad that America is filled with so many hateful people.
I thought she was ugly
SHE IS NOT A TRUE AMERICAN-SHE WAS NOT BORN IN AMERICA-I REFUSE TO EVER WATCH THE MISS USA OR MISS AMERICA CONTESTS AGAIN-THIS IS WHY AMERICANS GET THE SHAFT WHILE FOREIGNERS GET THE GOLD-AMERICANS ARE NOT REVERED AS WE ONCE WERE-ITS TIME FOR AMERICANS TO TAKE BACK OUR COUNTRY AND THE GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO LOOK AT WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO US
I guess being against a States right to enact it's own laws when the Federal Gov't fails to enforce current laws and protect US Citizens is not ok....but a Miss USA sponsored by a Hezbollah Terrorist sympathyzer, Hezbollah financier, and 9/11 "truther" is just fine in the new USSA...it's obvious that the enemy from within has won. God Help Us all.
Lynn, you tool. For the rest of you who made the same mistake as her... the question was asked to OKLAHOMA, NOT Michigan.
bearlyhome, leave your ignorant comments to yourself. We don't need to know how dumb you are.
@cj... since when did being of Arab decent = being a Muslim.
If she were a practicing Muslim, she would have not been in the pageant in the first place.
The sheer amount of clueless people posting here is disturbing.
Stop getting your education fro the news.
Pick up a book.
This is called the American DREAM!! Not a natural citizen, no problem you can still represent the country! I am even more proud of America.
oh my god some of you guys are so racist what does it matter if shes christian, Muslim, scientology it does not matter. Stop all this hatred
I think you all are missing the point. Miss Michigan didn't win because she was the prettiest or smartest or most talented. She won because it was time for an Arab (Muslim) to win. Like in the past when people or Americans needed to heal or needed to be pointed gently into the right direction little things like this happen, Miss Vanessa Williams in 1984 won the Miss America Pageant it was a doorway opened for African Americans into the lime light it helped our country open our eyes and see that there shouldn't be any prejudice between Americans. Now with Miss Rima Fakih same thing. Not saying it' fixed but seriously when the discussion is on going and constant in the world how we Americans hate the Muslim world we vote in a Lebanese Muslim Female as MISS AMERICA. In a few years 5, 10, 20 years down the road we will have some issue with another race or religion and we will either vote them in office or in some other way to bring the light on subject to get people talking.
The irony of those who obviously don't know what this bill said, as well as the Los Angeles morons who are boycotting AZ is what's written in CA Penal Code Section 834B is virtually identical to the new AZ law.
Miss USA is all about looks and physical attributes. These models shouldn't be asked anything that requires intelligence or opinion.
That is not what Miss USA is about.
It's like asking Nobel scientists to flex their muscles and show off their bods.
All of this racial retoric is ridiculous. I thought Miss Michigan was wonderful until she opened her mouth. She was the only one that I thought showed an extreme lack of intelligence and tripped on her gown – a bad representation for the USA because of that only. Miss Virginia was wonderful and very personable and I felt she could get along with anyone. Miss Oklahoma was also a better choice than Miss Michigan. It amazed me that Maine was last. Even though she was extremely tall she exuded poise and grace.
Miss Michigan needs to know her facts- Everyone is talking about the Arizona Question. When did Birth Control become a controlled substance????????? I work in health care and if a medicine is a controlled substance we can not give out samples. Miss Michigan won a strip pole contest as reported on TMZ. Is this the real reason she won MISS USA
Miss USA is owned by the Miss Universe Pageant. It's strictly a BEAUTY pageant. Miss America is a SCHOLARSHIP pageant. That said, I, too, have difficulty understanding why they would ask these young women questions beyond their matching shoes and nail color. However, should the same question be posed to a Miss America contestant, then I would be very much interested in her response as her role, in part, is to serve as a model to young women throughout the country.
Wow. The bigotry of the average US citizen is truly being brought to light with many of the comments here. One thing the controversy about the Arizona law has done is to allow bigots to spew venom publicly without fear of being politically incorrect!
Wow Joe G, bill Mayer and your other lib idols will be so impressed. Keep up the effort, we don't want Americans to realize that this person you pretend to be doesn't really exist outside the mind of a lib demoncrat.
She is not Arab American.....................SHE IS AMERICAN
I don't think he read the law becasue it does not say "authorizes law enforcement authorities to check the citizenship of anyone they believe to be in the country illegally."
I think a lot of this anti Arizon BS is due to the fact that people took what they heard on TV and in the news as fact. Media has skewed this way out of whack.
When i read last week that Obama had admitted he hadn't read the law yet I knew I had to read it myself. When I did it was all quite clear that Arizona is protecting it's border and the legal Americans born or nationalized, that reside in the state.
"Robert May 17th, 2010 1:00 pm ET
Wow – and people wonder if there is really any racism in America!
Those that defend the bill generally point to the limitations of the language in the law but I think the point is, that there is very little to prevent abuse. If you think police are above such abuses then you are simply naive. And, given the comments listed on this page, I'd say that latinos have good cause to be afraid.
Remember, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Read the law...
This law specifically calls out that certain criteria cannot be used.
The case would get tossed in a heartbeat and so would the cop.
EVERY law on the books has the potential for abuse.
So by your brilliant comments, they should all be rescinded because a cop or group of cops or certain race of cops could "potentially" abuse their position and break the law themselves.
Why is Alana allowed to use the term "blond airhead", with no censorship from CNN? Why is it OK to make racial slurs against White people but not against any other group.?
@ Robert – How do you figure that enforcing the law is going to hurt latinos in AZ when many of the law enforcement officers (you are so quickly to assume will be abusing the law) are of hispanic descent?
Well thank God a Muslim was crowned Miss USA , otherwise the left would have demanded a boycott of the pageant and the ACLU would have sued !!
@ruff... you;re another one educated by sound bite.
"Produce your papers" has been accepted FEDERAL law since 1968.
Guess the liberal thought police didn't teach you that.
Please go back and finish the 5th grade will you.
Another political question by some left-wing nut job that should never have been there as a judge. This guy is just another hispanic wanting his like to be made legal when they have clearly broken the law by being here. Thank you Miss OK for an honest and sincere response. We are with you and you should have won the crown. For the crown to go to someone not even born in the US is such a farce. What is going on here, anyway?
For those of you bashing the winner because she was not born in US -that shouldn't matter if she is LEGALLY here (unless there is some rule in the Miss USA pageant stating so). I don't watch these beauty contests (I think they are pointless) but I did read this article and the winner is strikingly beautiful!! It should not matter what shade her skin is, her haircolor or what her religious beliefs (or non-beliefs) may be.
Mr. Nunez was way OUT OF LINE though with his question – can you say 'personal agenda' Mr. Nunez?
And @lolly – I agree with you. I think CNN does write these type of articles on purpose to elicit angry comments.
Those that defend the bill generally point to the limitations of the language in the law but I think the point is, that there is very little to prevent abuse. If you think police are above such abuses then you are simply naive. And, given the comments listed on this page, I'd say that latinos have good cause to be afraid.
Remember, power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Interesting....An Arab/Muslim is now Miss USA...wonder how much it cost for her to buy off the judges? If a woman's lack of clothing is causing all the earthquakes around the world as Iran states, what's gonna happen now? The new Miss USA was certainly showing a LOT of skin in the pagent....can't be too much of a hard-line Muslim with the outfits she had on.