An Indonesian Islamic organization is saying an upcoming concert by Kelly Clarkson in Jakarta is banned under Islamic law because it is being sponsored by a tobacco company, according to a report Wednesday in the Jakarta Globe.
Muhammadiyah, the second largest Islamic organization in the world’s most populous Muslim country, has previously declared all smoking forbidden under Islam, according to the Globe report.
The head of the organization’s fatwa, or religious edict, department, Yanuar Ilyas, told the Globe that the no-smoking fatwa applied to Clarkson’s concert.
“We do not need to put another fatwa on a thing that is already clear,” the Globe quoted Yanuar as saying.
The U.S.-based campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids has also raised objections to the Clarkson’s Jakarta concert, scheduled for April 29 and sponsored by L.A. Lights cigarettes. The organization is asking Clarkson to cancel the sponsorship.
"If Kelly Clarkson goes ahead with this concert, she is choosing to be a spokesperson for the tobacco industry and helping them to market cigarettes to children," said the president of the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids, Matthew L. Myers. "If she rejects tobacco industry sponsorship, she can send a powerful message to children in Indonesia and around the world that they, too, should reject the tobacco industry's deadly products and marketing."
While many nations do not allow tobacco sponsorships of entertainment events, Indonesia has yet to sign on to such a ban, according to the campaign.
Clarkson’s fans are weighing in on her Facebook page, posting numerous comments calling on her to drop the tobacco sponsor.
But in a blog posting attributed to the singer Wednesday afternoon, she says her only option would be to drop the tour date, something she cannot do without disappointing her Jakarta fans.
“This is a lose-lose situation for me and I am not happy about it but the damage has been done and I refuse to cancel on my fans,” says the posting titled “Jakarta Mishap” and signed “Kelly.”
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It's time to drop all religions!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yah, its partly okey because it pins the back picture. So if she get another sponsor then she can get her concert going.
Sooo. lemme get this straight.. I say this because i am muslim.. They ban her concert because a tobacco company endorsed her BUT they are ok with a woman, possibly half dressed or whatever singing and dancing ?!? Were they going to ask her to sing and dance while wearing a burkha ?
this pig only made money to become a pig. Ha, ha, trash.
April 21st, 2010 3:11 pm ET
It all about the money for these artists. Kelly could probably care less about cigerettes, she just want to get paid. I guess this going to cost her big time in the pocket to have her concert cancelled
Because you wouldn't want to get paid, right? lmfao.
I'M GOING TO ISSUE ANOTHER FATWA... BECAUSE .KELLY CLARKSON CAN'T SING WORTH A SH_T !!!!!
Jenny Craig would be happy to pay for the concert. Maybe Clarkson will also let us help her lose some weight so she can be a role model for all those fat kids out there. Maybe Jenny Craig and tobacco comanies should join together to promote "smoking helps fat kids lose weight"
Concerts tours are very expensive, there is no way the artist can afford to pay for the tour themselves not even a single night. The corporate sponsor spends more money putting on the show than the return from ticket sales. So if you really feel a need to "get back" at the sponsor then go to the show, enjoy the show, but don't buy the sponsors product.
And stop issuing "religious decrees". What is wrong with people anymore?
If she is taking the money from a tobacco company as a sponsor, that is the same as endorsing their product and endorsing cigarettes is an awful thing for her to be doing. She is showing her fans – mostly impressionable teenagers – that she likes this product and they should too. That is the message that the kids will get whether she wants to admit it or not. That is the reason that companies use famous people in their advertisements.
Is that DNA I see smeared across her teeth?
Sooo.... no way I can get the Islamic world to stop smoking, but I get free press for my organization by going after an American celebrity?
I declare a fatwa on uselessness.
I think considering what goes on in the Muslim world this absurd.
It would have been the same for Hitler to critize Stallin for treating Russian people in those days with no regard.
I say the world should issue a fatua (is that what it is called?!) banning cigarettes ALL over the world. They are the worst thing ...Complete waist of money and health for noooooothing, zero, zilch, nada, nothing...companies and ppl that advertise cigarettes to kids should be JAILED starting with Kelly Clarkson
Dave = Can't spell Kelly or retarded
Do not change topic to [ Proud to be Muslim ]. The fact is that Islam act likes a barbaric religion. Is OK to blow up kids and innocent, to beat your wife or to sell opium [Taliban] , and smoking [hashish]. But they made a fatwa against smoking a cigarette ! !!!. You have nothing to be proud of. I wonder if Islam is religion of terror, because moderate Muslim don't survive.
i thought it was because US regulation about Tobacco Ads..
so which news broadcaster is right??
it's not true, that she's banned because the tobacco company sponsored her concert. She was suggested to cancel her concert because the sponsor for her concert is a tobacco company (which she's not realized earlier) and more concern on youngster's health. Now the tobacco company cancelled their sponsorship and her concert will be held in Jakarta.
How strange. I always thought hookahs were invented in an islamic country.
Wait...the last time I was there in Jakarta, I see many people puffing away. Which means the tobacco company (or the devil to the Muslims) are paying taxes to the government...which in turn is used to pay the salary to these Muslim fanatics and helps build the mosques there...But then again, the Muslims will say that we "won't understand" how their religion works...
Feel free to blow yourself up to make a point
Isn't music prohibited in Islam? So why does Indonesia have concerts coming? If they sell tobacco there, they should not get a visa to come there. In the US alcohol and tobacco are legal and then people complain when drunks and druggies drive and cause harm to others...it makes no sense. And it makes no sense that an Islamic country would allow haram but somehow think that it would be less haram if tobacco were prohibited?
Hey please can everybody cool it? Islam in the Prophet times preaches peace, just like Christianity. They believe in a single God, just like Christianity. If you all are open to the teachings of Islam, then you will understand that the only deluded people are those radicals and governments who misuse and misintepret these teachings in order to control its people. Mankind is not perfect. Noone is perfect. Noone in the right mind wants any bloodshed. We steer off the religious road from time to time. For both christians and muslims. This does not mean that Muslims around the world condone such acts of violence. They are merely victims and pawns to both political and social advances or violences. No race or religion deserves this kind of disrespect. So, please please please respect ALL religions! Focus on the real issue; was Clarkson notified by her management about the sponsorship?
She isn't doing a concert for Tobacco. Without the current US government's attempt to calm things down...and the recent enlightenment of rest of us who don't like secular stupidity, Muslim's wudda been killed by bombs throughout the world a few years back.
Get real and stop spinning the facts like GW Bush did...and your leader Bin Laden does.
Yup, it's okay to blow up innocent civilians, but smoking, nnnnnoooooo wwwaaaayyyy!
I dont see how christinas, jews, hindus or whatever religion is out there have a problem with muslims having a problem with people insulting and makinf fun or our religion, people u r losing ur religion and for that you hate muslims because they still respect their religion and will not allow anybody to insult it. for that said, I dont think Kelly Clarckson or whatever her name is would have a concert sponsored by a tobacco company in the US, so why would she do it in another country. Tobacco is bad for KIDS and Kelly's fans r just bunch of kids and YES we want her concert to be cancelled if she doesnt drop her tobacco sponsoprship. And if our governement is making money out of that concert and wont take sides then SHAME on it. BUT I BET YOU WONT SEE HER IN THE USA DOING A CONCERT FOR TOBACCO
I think we should ban Islam until they stop sponsoring honor killings?
Indonesians are generally prolific smokers, as confirmed during visits to the country. It surprises me that a group are claiming this inappropriate. Ultimately alienating all smokers in the country. PS: Im not a smoker..just an observer!
Majority of them smoke and/or chew tobacco. How about a Fatwa to ban them from Western countries? Tobacco companies are big in Asia, Orient and even Europe so they can and do sponsor, Kelly does not handle sponsorships, her Managers do. So big deal they do not want her there. Who cares. Just do not give them all this publicitiy which is ALL they want and like morons, we keep falling for their ridiculous, illogical, 8th Century thinking. Finally, have you ever heard any moderate Muslim speak up? Ever? What does that tell you?
Is Islam a religion of terror?
I think this has nothing to do with religion
Simply smoking is bad for health and she shouldn't support these kinds of sponsors.
My family and friends do not go to any event that are Sponsored by a tobacco companies.
I am a victim of the 1970's free cigarette samples on the beach.
Has nothing to do with religion.
Cigarette ads are bad.
Terrorists muslims are just looking for reasons to challenge the civilised world. If the rose Fatwa to our pop stars we shall soon ban their music stars to put their dirty foots here.
cigarette sponsor quits. what mullahs do next????all is well that ends well.
What kind of reality is this? Whenever I walk past mosques or through the streets of most Muslim countries, people are ingesting cigarettes as if they were going out of style. And not to heap blame on the Muslims – I note that Christians are good at walking our of church and lighting up, too....
Bottom line: let's get religious leaders to commit to no smoking. Otherwise, they should say nothing about it.
The mullahs are just exploiting the situ.They know no one in the world would support kids smoking. As for Kelly it is obvious that she is doing it for the money money!
anyone who says Islam preaches peace is disillusioned ,they hate hate and more hate,just watch CNN on any given day, suicide bombing, Taliban, child brides,beating women and children, this is peace and love? yep me thinks not unless this is hell.
they banned it cause they hate,Kelly probably couldn't go to any Islamic country,because she too old, look at Yemeni they like them around eight too twelve years old,sickos, these people are really rubbing me the wrong way, whatever.
Most of the Islam/Muslim basher Americans here have not been to school because they cannot write a simple sentence without a spelling error.
i'm 13 and i think that just because of who her sponcers are, doenst mean that it was her opinion. kelly can do whatever she wants to occure on wheather or not she will perform, and i dont blame her for being mad or anything. thts just wrong wht they did to her. they need to grow up and take wht they can get. if i lived in jakarta i would b protesting...but thts just MY opinion. GO KELLY!!!!!!!
Smoking is a legal activity that some people enjoy. If parents don't want their children possibly exposed to a few signs at the event they can keep them home. That is the responsiblity of the parent. Society does not have to parent for you. Most of those attending will be adults over the age of 18 and they have the right to see a concert sponsored by any company they wish. It's called liberty. Those who may want to attend under the age of 18 all have parents who can make the decision as to whether or not they will attend. No need for fascist censorship. It is amazing how many people want to live in a totalitarian society.
This muslims definetly have no shame, they blowup people, buildings, airplanes, they smoke, they drink, they treat their women like slaves and they dare prohibit a concert because of a sponsorship by a tonacco company, HIPOCRITS.
If the article read " An British organization is saying an upcoming concert by Kelly Clarkson in England is banned under health laws because it is being sponsored by a tobacco company.." it would have not been a big deal. Perhaps half of you wouldn't have bothered posting any comments. They other half would've agreed and a few may have disagreed. But since you guys see the word "muslim" and "Islamic" in the article, you can't wait to make a big deal out of it and insult all Muslims. Grow up people!!! Educate yourself about the real Islam first before you bash all Muslims. There is good and bad people in every country, every religion and every household. All Muslims are not terrorists just like all priests are not child molesters!
Just being overdramatic for some people who are attacking Islam directly. It's definitely uncalled for. Hitler represents a common enemy of the world.
Anyways, I concur that smoking should be banned. It's definitely an effective means. However, Kelly stated that she didn't realize the situation. Her management is solely to be blamed, but i guess no one would really know what happened behind the scenes. A lesson learnt for Miss Clarkson.
The Muslims are getting better. For one, a fatwa that makes sense. We use different methods here (banning smoking almost everywhere, a good idea for us non-smokers) to achieve the same goal.
Why (hopefully) talented young singer needs tobacco sponsorship?
Let's just stick to smoking and leave Hitler out of it...
Oh please, could we actually pull a sewing needle out of the keisters of some of you with a tractor? Kelly wants babys to smoke?...pathetic! Smoking is against Islam?; please, smoking is synomonous with Islam, Arabs and the middle east (Hooka anyone?). We need to find a planet and place all of these Islamic and Puritanical fools on it so that they can fatwa and forbid each other into extinction.
You guys are the best advertisement for Atheism I've ever read or heard about. Get a sense of humor and some rational thinking and the rest of us won't think that you are a bunch of insecure doubters parading as moral midgets...shame on both of you!
I am not the most devout Muslim in world (and I am considering being a Christian), but I know one thing – Islam does NOT advocate war! They promote peace and inter-religious existance on this shared planet of ours. So if those Islam haters want to blame all terrorist activities linking to Islam, then blame those radicals who destroy the image of Islam. Shouldn't we be finding a way to throw these people in the slammer, instead of trying to eliminate all Muslims? If elimination is what people in Western community are thinking, then they are not any better than Hitler trying to ethnic cleanse the world from Jews. After all this time, we should be bonding as a human race instead of trying to segregrate based on faiths and religious beliefs. We are facing turmoils and catastrophes in the natural environment and we must unite. Try to understand all differences, instead of being against it. If not, I guess mankind hasn't evolved at all since its inception.
It's funny that smoking is bad with these wacky Muslims, but killing is okay.
saresse: Your grammar sucks worse.
And groups of all stripes tell others what to do and what not to do. Pretending that only Islam does this is ridiculous. Almost as ridiculous as pretending that it is somehow morally reprehensible to tell others that they are making a mistake.
Despite me being an enormous fan of hers following her work since her Idol days, I have to weigh in on this issue objectively. I think that she only has a certain degree of control on these things and definitely has a whole lot on her plate. Rhetorically i mean. Her management should have anticipated such predicaments and consequences arising from such relations to the the tobacco company. However, she must also be sensitive to these implications. But everyone has to consider that she is just human, like all other celebrities, we all make mistakes and we try to ammend those mistakes the best we could. I think she is genuinely trying to take neccessary actions, but one must consider that these sponsors have a certain contract that sometimes could cost a whole lot or is difficult to break away from.
Wow, I'd hate to see what they'd do to Lady Gaga...
Cigarette sponsor pulled from Kelly Clarkson showThe Associated Press, April 22, 2010
Related: News, Kelly Clarkson
JAKARTA, Indonesia (AP) - Pop star Kelly Clarkson's upcoming concert in Indonesia will no longer be sponsored by a cigarette company, the promoter said Thursday following protests from fans and anti-tobacco groups.
Clarkson, a past American Idol winner, had previously said that while she was surprised to learn that billboards announcing her April 29 concert in Jakarta were prominently branded with the logo of the popular cigarette L.A. Lights, the show would go on with the controversial sponsorship.
"I refuse to cancel on my fans," she wrote in a posting on her blog. She added that she's not a
smoker and does not advocate it.
Though Clarkson initially indicated that the sponsorship could not be pulled, promoter Adrie Subono said that his company Java Musikindo had reached a "final agreement" with cigarette company Djarum, the maker of L.A. Lights, and the sponsorship had been
canceled. He said it would take one or two days to remove all the billboards and pull other advertisements, including those on TV.
"There will be no (L.A. Lights) media promotion at the Kelly Clarkson concert," Subono told The Associated Press.
Attacking Indonesia as unfriendly to women is pure ignorant. It might be in Saudi where even driving is outlawed for women. We have women cab driver, gas attendant, finance minister and at one point in the past a woman president (not a very good one, but that's a different matter). Arab is generally anti women. Islam does not mean Arab.
Why Jakarta, Indonesia is the 5th most populous country in the world. You need people to market your stuff, it would be stupid to ignore market that size.
As for Muhammadiyah, well people are free to not listen to them. Banning is not an accurate term here. They have no power to ban anything. The media use "ban" to attract attention.
Just put that porker in a hijab...Allah willing!
I think the thing we lost after 911 was our since of humor I'm sure mmuslim man was just having some fun and I got a pretty good laugh out of it. but hey just in case he was serious i plan on getting the lawn chair out to enjoy the sites.
Oh well, can't live forever. Gotta die of something. Might as well die gasping for air as your lungs rot away from cancer.
Besides, how really cares? Kelly Clarkson is a fatty now anyway.
First of all, I think she can find another sponsor to host her concert there, that is why i think she needs to drop the tobacco sponsor, second to all those folks who said that Muslims suck, and Islam sucks, or to stay away from Muslim countries..excuse me but I think thats a bit ignorant and immature and stupid on ur part, without even knowing or attempting to find out what ISLAM is really about..just because u see a nice famous singer involved in this entire scenario, there is no need to hate or attack the religion! GET UR FACTS STRAIGHT FIRST! this entire thing is not that much of a big deal as everyone is making it, if only the sponsor is dropped GEEEEZ....
You see Kelly, you should care about WHO is sponsoring your events: what if it was NAMBLA, would you have cancelled then? In order to have integrity as an artist, you should be able to flip those who write your paycheck. If you don't, you'll end up like Britney Spears: doing everything that is asked of you to end up being dumped by those who said they would take care of you. Make the difficult choices now, it gets easier with time.
Reading the posts here makes me less convinced about some
of Richard Dawkins' arguments. I think bad atheists are just as
dangerous as religious fanatics.
The tobacco fatwas by some Indonesian Muslim organizations
were the result of lobbying from anti-smoking groups (both
domestic and international) who realize that fatwas will carry
some political weight.
I don't understand the logic in some posters. Because
smoking is a problem in Indonesia they shouldn't try to
combat it? Hmmm. What is so hypocrite about trying combat a
problem? There are many big problems in Indonesia
including corruption, overcrowding and pollution. Luckily,
extremism is not a big problem yet.
They don't do beheadings nor honor killings in Indonesia.
And what is this comment about fatwas against terrorism?
Muhammadiyah and most other major Muslim organizations
in Indonesia don't think fatwas are needed because in their
view, terrorism is already clearly forbidden by the Qur'an. And the
vast majority of Indonesians, Muslims and non-Muslims, are
clearly against terrorism.
On a happier note, for those who are anti tobacco sponsorship,
the promoter of the show has agreed to drop the tobacco
AH. Comeon, there can't be that many fans to disappoint!
One more reason to dislike Islam. I'm suprised they would even let a women sing in their country.
The sponsor has been dropped.
Kelly needs to step out of the box and stand up for something. She should drop the sponsorship like a hot potato. Her "real" fans will understand her decision.
I was just in the middle east and they have Stesha bars all over to smoke tobacco and drink coffee. When they aren't smoking Stesha they are smoking cigarettes. These people can do what ever they want in their own countries and cultures, but don't come to America and tell us what to do.
"Why would Kelly Clarkson be dumb enough to hire a cigarette company to sponsor her, on her tour to sing to adolescents? She is that dumb? Really, Seth? Yes, really. Why doesn't she just get Osama bin Laden to sponsor her and go sing to the troops overseas???????"
Morley, Idiot you don't hire a sponsor. That would mean she paid the ciggarette company to advertise at her concert, which would be about as retarded as your comment.
I would believe that she can only get sponsored by the tobacco companies because they are the only ones who like her music.
Man, her face looks fat in the photo.
You think she does 3 inputs?
Wow, I actually agree with a fatwa. Smoking companies just sell misery and death so we shouldn't be sponsoring them and there should be laws preventing advertisement (I know there are in many countries).
Kelly, man, you just lost my respect. I don't care if you're a smoking addict yourself (a victim), but you have to draw the line at lending your name to something that's evil.
All religions stink, from what I've seen.
Muslims are extremists, though, and should be eliminated.
Send them to meet the 72 virgins, I say.
Tired of stone-age religious freaks with funny hats and beards – saying they know what God wants.
That's funny, because she had no problem canceling her show in St Paul last summer without any warning...
Smoking forbidden (but not really). Beheading ok. What kind of crazy belief system do the Muslims have anyway? That's not religious, that's idiotic.
nate i think you need to check ur spelling there too buddy :-) and ya know kelly works as a singer WORKS!!! she busts her butt off for her fans ya id want the money too regardless of how much i make. she earns it dealing with all the drama and stress, so ya i would want the money too and anyone else in her position would agree
Ever been to Jakarta? It is a filthy hell hole. Smoking is the least of its problems. The air is already so dirty that everyone who lives there has the lungs of a smoker.
before posting ya'll need to check your spelling
What are you really saying Kelly and how stupid do you think people reading your reason for not dropping the sponsor are? Your telling us that you don't want to drop the date you don't want to disappoint your fans. Since the oppostion is coming from the country where the date is, and, they are mulsim, and they are against smoking altogether, it strikes me that money can be the only reason you don't want to drop the sponsor.
Wake up Kelly, American Idol is over, this is the real world.
Note to the world.......stay away from all Islamic countries, unless you ARE Islamic.
You are not wanted, under ANY other conditions, and indeed, you can find yourself in serious trouble or dead.....if you break this rule.
A Rep said: “The show is sponsored
by a Tobacco company. Their products
kill millions every year. We respect
human life too much to condone this
sponsorship. For you Infidels who
do not agree with us we will hunt
down and kill every last one of you.”
So, it is wrong for a singer to have a tobacco sponsor but no one cares if a singer has a beer/alcohol sponsor?
I go to concerts sponsored by liquor companies and see the singer raise a toast and the entire crowd then drinks... and most of those in the audience drive home afterwards.
Doesn't just end with music... look at all the Super Bowl alcohol ads. I bet teenagers watch the Super Bowl too. Maybe they should be banned from that?
How about all of the whiners sponsor her concert? Wah wah wah. I'm issuing a fatwa that says put up or shut up. Oh yeah, and also a fatwa against issuing any more fatwas. What a waste of oxygen.
How sad, why can't she just say, "well, I am going to drop the cigarette sponsor and go ahead with the show in Jakarta. I might not make any money, but I think I've got enough to get me by. I will stand by my word, and truly play for the fans, and not worry about my profit on this one."
She's totally hot.
Simple solution: She can donate her personal income from the concert to a non-profit organization that promotes non-smoking for children in Indonesia. That way the fans have their concert, non-smoking is ultimately promoted, and she doesn't profit from supporting tobacco.
next they'll be telling us what cartoons to draw
Its not Ms.Clarkson but her management who is to blame.
She is far too occupied with performing and its the responsibility of her management firm to conclude deals that englobe the sponsorship of her tour.
People constantly love to lay blame on anybody when their own lives are void.
Kelly Clarkson is an awesome singer and performer. I absolutely love her!
But she needs to drop that sponsorhip ASAP.
that is ONE UGLY CHICK...!!!
i agree that she should have some morals and not take sponsorships from companies that produce a product that DOES NOTHING BUT KILL....
then again....i wouldn't do a show for a bunch of cultist freaks that practice in a cult that preaches NOTHING BUT KILLING THOSE THAT DON'T AGREE WITH YOU!
either way you look at it....it's pathetic, she's pathetic and islam is pathetic....just like all other cults!!!
GET OVER YOURSELVES PEOPLE....
gods ARE FOR THE WEAK AND THOSE THAT NEED A SCAPEGOAT FOR ALL THE GOOD AND BAD IN THEIR WORLDS!!
TK, I am sure that they (you muslim colleagues) are well aware of what they are allowed and not allowed to do as a muslim. But they also know, and I am sure you do too, that nobody is perfect. The Roman Catholic church knows that perhaps even better. You people are making such nasty remarks without even knowing it? Or do you?
I am issuing a fatwa against all fatwas. That should calm things down for a while.
Peepel hoo poste an teh webb shud lern two spel!
Heyimjason is 100% correct. Kids are not of legal age to buy cigarettes and it's too hard to get them. Thank god for the law. Could you imagine if there were no speed limits? Teenagers would be speeding everywhere!
CNN is just creating a whole new wave of muslim hatred because of this story. In Amsterdam we've lost the best festival the city has ever had because of the same law!
Saresse, in The Netherlands it is also forbidden for tobacco companies to sponsor concerts and all other sorts of musical entertainment.
How stupid and ignorant can u be ??? I don't know if in Islam tobacco is prohibited. All those people adding those stupid Fatwas as their islamic laws are just adding amendments to their religion. You can't tell me people in Indonesia are not drinking or smoking at all.
If muslims wants us to obey their religious laws in their land, then whats stopping the Americans to put ban on Islamic practices in US. Ban the Burqa like the rest of the European countries for a start. If they hate America and its people–KICK'EM OUT !!!
All radical Muslims groups in US says that the 9-11 attack was justified. How can we even live around them, eat with them at a same restaurant or work with them? US governemt should do something to get rid of these Radicals for good. Muslim population is growing significantly in European countries and soon(maybe within 10 years) we will see Islamic laws in Europe too.
PUT A STOP AT THIS PEOPLE.. THESE ILLETERATE, IGNORANT PEOPLE ARE NO GOOD ON THE FACE OF THIS EARTH...
Nathan, let me introduce you to a friend of mine named comma... ","
On the many comments regarding Muslims and their crazy/retarded religion. Every religion has rules and attempts to impose them on everyone else. Why do you think abortion is an issue in the US? Imagine if some nutball like Pat Robertson were running this country – what kind of laws would all you have to comply with? To think that they (the other – the Muslims) are the bad ones and we are the good ones is to engage in a pure form of exceptionalism: our rules aren't wacky, illogical, old-fashioned, arbitrary, etc. – why? because we're GOOD!
Are you so soft-brained that you really believe that tobacco companies are really advertising to children that can't even legally buy the product? The amount of trouble that 90% of kids would have to go through to get a pack would discourage them from even trying – and there'd be millions and millions lost in this supposed advertising.
No religion should tell someone not to smoke, but hey, if you want to live your life based around imaginary friends rather than actually enjoying life the way you want to, maybe you deserve a restricted, fearful life.
Whats the big Deal? And listen Indonesian Islamic Organization, you guys are being hypocritical, under your fatwas music is Haram( forbidden) as well. why are you choosing one issue to go after and not the other? That does not make sense.
yes make up relgion as u go along so that tells us something ITS ALL BULL religion is the root of all evil not money if we got rid of religion there would be alot more peace in the world, people use religion as a basis for when they die because they dont know whats going to happen so they turn to religion to give them selves peace at mind but its all bull its was wrote by a bunch of dudes high off hallucinogens so why the heck would u want to trust them?! and what they said 1000's of years ago i mean heck i could go take some lsd right now and say a whole bunch of stuff about god or religion and do u think people would bealive me? no!!! theyd be like whos the whacko and what drugs is he on and all islam is the same its all garbage just like christianity judiasm, hinduism an and all the other isms out there. every body needs to wake up and smell the coffee we got a short time on this planet maybe even shorter if 2012 really does happen so live life to the best have fun make babys grow old and die end of story
Ok, so let me see if I have this straight. Islamic clerics are banning Kelly Clarkson's concert because it is sponsored by a cigarette company. This cigarette company is based in Indonesia where it is legal to promite tobacco products on TV, billboards, and in magazines. So, they are legally able to sponsor a concert. So, rather than working to change the laws in their country, the Muslims of Indonesia are banning an artist (who according to her had no knowledge that her concert was going to be sponsored by a tobacco company). Talk about misplaced priorities and backward logic.
This is a joke! While I am not a smoker nor do I support anything that has to do with tobacco, what's funny about this whole ban is that these guys are bloody hypocrites!
I am from that part of the world and smokers (mostly men as they look down on women who smoke) light up whenever and wherever they please. You invite them into your home; they light up without asking.......You give them a ride in your car; they light up......They start young and they don't need Tobacca Ads to teach them to smoke!
what a bunch of hypocrisy, if it were Miller or McDonalds or Dunkin Donuts or any other industry that causes as many deaths as tobacco, noone would say a word. Obesity took over tobacco in medical cost and premature death and disability some time ago, heaven forbid you suggest they not advertise food with 39 fat grams per serving. Alcohol kills millions both users and nonusers in the form of DUI crashes, yet they advertise at will. Bunch of BS.
"Muhammadiyah, the second largest Islamic organization in the world’s most populous Muslim country, has previously declared all smoking forbidden under Islam, according to the Globe report."
Hooked on phonics people. An Indonesian Islamic organization has issued the "fatwa" in question. It doesn't necessarily pertain to all of Islam, just Indonesia, and among whom look to this particular body for their religious guidance. Much like the Mormon church saying 'no alcohol'. That's what is great about religion, just make it up as you go along, and if you don't like what you are being told, find another flavor.
Who Cares? Beyond the fact that once again religious extremists are trying to dictate their morality to everyone (both the Islamists, and the PC Nazis), this is not a story. Let her get sponsored by whoever wants to pay for her complete lack of talent. I hope she smokes a carton onstage.
What's FATWA – "Fat Woman' A$$"
WHAT! This is unbelivable muslims smoke the Hooka so what's wrong if a cigrette company sponsor the concert Kelly should take some action NOW.......speaking of radicalism there ya go.
I need action RIGHT NOW!
I love baby fat! Imagine protein all over her front teeth!
Oh don't get me wrong, I'd still let her bob on my knob, she just needs to stop eating for awhile.
She's got a major caboose going on, I'd love to hit it!
It's really sad to see Kelly Clarkson evolve into a purely commercial money-making machine as has happened to so many others. If she cannot simply drop the Tobacco sponsorship then it shows she is "in bed with them". So sad.
this is getting outa hand people bottom line is muslims are going to hate on americans no matter what end of story. most muslims in this world are retarded hence why they whipe there butts with there hands
and kelly clarkson is pretty darn cute if ya ask me :-) but all in all kids arnt going to pick smoking up from her ads there gonna do it if there parents smoke its all about how u raise ur kids......
Adam, did you catch last nights episode of South Park? Classic.
Kelly Clarkson would eat the children in a sweatshop in one sitting. One sitting I tell you!
I am American Muslim, I beleive the FATWA is totally wrong,,, fatwa should be "She have to smoke all the cigrattes until no cigrattes left in Indoneasia ! "..
Why do American artists even bother putting on concerts in Indonesia anymore? The crazy extremists are always butting their nose in & trying to ruin things at the last minute. The FANS should be the ones to decide if they will support tobacco sponsorship, skimpy clothes, etc....... not the government. Wishful thinking.
It's ironic how many people on this thread are dismayed by Clarkson not thinking of "the kids" and "public health" with her tobacco sponsorship, but don't think twice about the child and slave labor that goes into what you buy cheaply at one of your hundred million local Walmarts. If Clarkson is guilty of harming children by dint of her tobacco sponsor, aren't you guilty of harming children by buying the cheap foreign-made products they made in sweatshops for pennies an hour, in hazardous and toxic work environments, and often under duress?
I'm sure McDonalds or Burger King would sponsor her, fat face Kelly looks like she eats enough of it.
well well well... there are many restrictions with Indonesia government. The sponsor may not give enough money to authorities.... that is why the concert is banned
Talking about cigarettes. we can see billboard signs almost everywhere, tobacco ads in cinemas, television. They are just hypocrite...
Indonesian and those people who have lived in Indonesia would know what I am talking about.
Agree with previous post: Jakarta has the right idea for all the wrong reasons.
It is a shame that such an individual–one Kelly Clarkson–gets to be ambassador for this great nation. She's nothing but another hillbilly with an undeserved, winning lotto-ticket.
No talent. Yet another manufactured pop icon of the most frivolous nature singing about meaningless nonsense.
I wouldn't go to one of those concerts either, and wouldn't go to one with a tobacco or alcohol sponsor either. But then you see, that is just me, and I would not impose my thinking on others (unlike the fattwa).
I thought smoking was the one thing that WASN'T forbidden by Islam.
Absolutely Ridiculous. Does it really matter who her sponsors are?? No one would have had any clue that a tobacco company (Indonesian Cigarettes might I add) were her sponsor if they hadn't made a HUGE deal out of it. She is in no way saying smoking is good. Get off your religious high horses and realize that the so called cigarettes that she is "supporting" are made in your own country. Hypocritical much.
This move by an Islamic organization is simply about not letting the young people see a woman in a dominant position.
Even the woman warrior who in battle was continuously saving Mohammad's life was supposed to be submissive to him (I forget her name).
In Islamic society women are supposed to be docile in public – cover themselves and be submissive. They may be the dominate one in private especially if they are the older one but not in public.
As many have mentioned muslims seem to smoke as much as any other religion and certainly more than mormons.
If there are this many bigots on cnn.com, how many will there be on foxnews.com?
Am I the only one laughing at the irony? The concert sponsor is L.A. Lights – a brand of Kretek cigarettes...made in Indonesia! In fact, Indonesia is the worlds largest supplier of Kretek cigs. How's that for a ridiculous religious law? You can make'm, but you can't smoke'm!
I don't smoke but I would still go to her concert because I am a fan... Go Kelly!...
April 22, 2010
Kelly Clarkson's controversial cigarette sponsorship deal for her Jakarta concert has been stubbed out. (JG Photo)
Controversial Clarkson Sponsorship Deal Extinguished
There is unlikely to be any post coital cigarette smoking after it was announced on Thursday that the brief yet fiery relationship between US Singer Kelly Clarkson and an Indonesian tobacco company had been stubbed out.
Adrie Subono, CEO of music promoter JAVA Musikindo, told the Jakarta Globe that it had severed its relationship with PT Djarum and its brand LA Lights and confirmed the concert on April 29 would go ahead without “its main sponsor.”
Adrie said all offending billboards and other promotional material featuring Clarkson and LA Lights had been removed.
He did not say how much the move was likely to cost the company.
“This is Java’s commitment to Clarkson and her fans,” he said, adding that the company had done everything according to the correct procedures.
Clarkson’s upcoming concert at the Senayan Indoor Tennis Stadium on April 29 became the focus of criticism after it became clear that Djarum were backing it.
Huge billboards promoting the concert feature the Grammy Award winner — who shot to fame after winning the first season of American Idol — with a logo of the LA Lights cigarettes just above her head.
Muhammadiyah, the country’s second-largest Islamic group with about 30 million members, has declared smoking haram, or forbidden under Islam.
It said all things related to smoking — including the concert — were also forbidden.
“We do not need to put out another fatwa [religious edict] on a thing that is already clear,” Yunahar Ilyas, who heads Muhammadiyah’s fatwa department, told the Jakarta Globe.
Even the Indonesian Council of Ulema (MUI), which considers smoking undesirable but not forbidden, says young people would be wise to avoid the concert that was certain to be used to promote the habit.
Writing on blog.kellyclarkson.com, the artist said she had no idea that PT Djarum brand L.A. Lights was sponsoring her Jakarta concert.
I was not made aware of this and am in no way an advocate or an ambassador for youth smoking. I’m not even a smoker, nor have I ever been.”
She said she was going ahead with the concert because of her fans.
So, suicide bombers, public floggings, and child weddings are ok.............. but a Kelly Clarkson concert is against islamic law. LOL
Is it ok if adults smoke? Why not just ban smoking. Period.
Has anyone mentioned Kate Gosselin on this thread yet?
Someone commented that this supposedly proves that "religion in any form is idiotic."
So let me get this straight–if a religious organization says that we should not promote behavior that ALL physicians and public health experts agree is bad for you, that is suddenly "idiotic" just because the source is religious? That is just doublespeak. Some people are so militantly anti-religion that they can't even think straight.
havent you people ever heard of population control ciggarrets are one of the biggest killers out there we get rid of that then were going to over populate this overpopulated world we need these things to kill us off yea its sounds bad but think of the long run people what the effects of us living longer are going to do
Western Cultures are full of Nudity, Loud Noisy Music and Obesity and Fanatic Islamists bring Terrorism and Instabiltiy in the World. Buddhiism and Hinduism gives Discpline, Yoga and Selfrespect and Peace of Mind to the World!
Simple, stand up. Ban the countries with religious fanatics ruling them. Enough acts ban them and they will have to entertain themselves. Sure smoking is bad but a country shouldn't be able to dictate what the people watch for entertainment or their sponsors. She would be there if not sponsored by a tobacco company but it isn't worth it. Stand up Kelly and do the right thing. Tell them to take their views and shove it. You can't need the money that bad. Then just dropt he tobacco sponsorship. You don't need that anyway.
She is too skinny. :<
Will they ban all movies which have smoking or cigarettes in them?
I spoke with a friend of mine in Jakarta this morning, and he explained that fatwas are issued ALL the time. However, the Indonesian people are extremely tolerant and pay little to no attention to such declarations.
He stated the concert WILL go on, and he has already purchased his ticket.
Thanks, CNN for only giving us 1/2 of the facts......
You can chose to smoke or not to smoke...if someone is that easily influenced to smoke because a company sponsers a concert, then they have some serious problems. Why comment on Kellly's weight...who cares. Someone said Sarah Palin is a Muslim on this...come on do you have to use every story to make some kind of comment about Sarah Palin...once again who cares...Oh wait maybe you want the US government to control everything...well, your comments about Palin would still be allowed but not about King Barack.
So sick of people harping on anyone who does not agree with their "thing of the moment". First smoking is glamorized, people get hooked, then they are demonized. Check! Then we have the fast food joints popping up, they get promoted, and folks start getting fat and unhealthy. Then, of course, they are demonized for being fat and unhealthy. Check! The advertising folks are laughing at everyone and raking in the dollars, puffed up with their own power. I see a trend to demonize everyone not at the top of the pile. I'll stay at home with my cigerets and my home grown veggies. I smoke but I'm skinny. Guess that makes me a half-demon. OK, no problem, I'll just be the unicorn! One-horned demons are, what, half as scary? NO...the moronic masses who buy into whatever is popular are scarier than hell at it's deepest level.
Smoking is a big problem in Indonesia. Cigarettes are very cheap (a dollar or two a pack) and often have cloves in them which increases their addictiveness. I can understand Muslim authorities being concerned that the concert focused on youth is being sponsored by a tobacco company. They don't want their children being seduced into thinking that smoking is a good idea, particularly with clove cigarettes being so easy to obtain and hard to quit.
Seems to me they don't want her American, Cigarette Smoking, Dirty Infidel Image mussing up their country!!
She looks good. And I smoke. So deal with it.
But she looks good with the weight. D:
Can she drop 30 lbs instead?? maybe smoking will help her with that.
The CONCERT has not been banned in Jakarta as the headline claims, ATTENDING the concert has been banned.
Since the concert itself isn't banned, what are the government and the #1 Islamic group in Indonesia saying (attendance is banned by the #2).
Too much is missing here or written incorrectly or misleadingly.
If this was a report submitted in a high school Journalism class, it would be lucky to get a passing grade.
Obama had better apoligize to Indonesia for tobaco smoking Americans and tobaco sponsored concerts.
They probably don't like that she's fat.
johnboyy, what are you taliking about? Kelly is the BEST female singer today!! Don't like her style of music, fine, but do not show your ignorance by putting down her signing voice. No one can sing better then her.
SARAH PALIN IS MUSLIM!
The show isn't "banned" in the sense that it's been cancelled, it's just their "law" that disagrees with the sponsorship of tobacco products.
chick needs to go on a diet
A brave decision not to disappoint her fans! She also gets to keep the money from the concert!! Be brave and get paid.
Hey Janette, Jinx, I didnt know u were gonna type that.
Jakarta is only doing what the rest of the planet wants; to silence Kelly Clarkson. Excuse me while I step outside for a puff.
Who is Kelly Clarkston exactly?
Good Lord, I need a cigarette....
If only we lived in a country where people had certain freedoms. I wish there was a place where people have the freedom to choose any LEGAL organization to promote their product. Wait a minute.....there is such a place. It's America, the place where we (ok, some of us) live. Clarkson can get anybody she wants to promote her tour. It won't influence anyone as to wether or not to go to her show. If you're a fan, you'll want to go, and the sponsor won't make a difference. If you don't like her, you won't go, no matter how much you like the sponsor. This isn't going to make kids more susceptible to start smoking. You either will or you won't. (And it isn't all parenting, either. Some of it, but not all)Do you think people would stop going to football games if the main sponsor was Pepsi, instead of Budweiser? If they stopped selling Bud at the game, that'd be another argument......However, this argument only applies to her American tour dates. Since we're talking about a differnt country with different laws, that's different. I realize we're not talking about a law, but respecting and not judging the customs of others is important. Especially if they do not respect ours. It shows how much better than them we are (that last part's a joke).
Kelly Clarkson..? Who is that..?
I am an American Muslim woman and I think that is ridiculous.
I am tired of religions telling people what they can and cannot do and what is supposedly approperiate. This is such a crock and seems very similar to a dictatorship type situation.
I find this hypocritical to say the least. Smoking is a social phenomenon and concerts are one such avenue where smoking, drinking and other things are popular.
So why do we need a fatwa?
Irrespective of who sponsors her, they have to be clear on their values and develop laws that uphold their morals.
Why couldn't they cancel it because she sucks... oh well. I guess I'll console myself with a smoke
this is actually quite funny, it is clear that a half naked women singing is forbidden in islam yet they ban her b/c her sponsor is a tobacco company lol
She canceled an entire tour before because not enough tickets sold. I don't really think there is much for her to do in this situation because she may not have enough money to promote the concert.
I think its funny that muslims allow kids to marry adults but forbid people to smoke!
Tobacco is against Islam? Now, I have never been to these countries, but does that mean you can buy cigarettes in Indonesia, Saudi or Afghanistan? Because if that's the case, well, here comes more hypocrisy from the Muslim world.
Of course, this is all offset by things that ARE legal in these countries...like wife beating, burqas, genital mutilation and prohibiting women from driving, voting, traveling or going to football matches.
Yes, I see the logic now, All these things are much more healthy and wholesome than cigarettes.
I like a fatty once in a while.
FATWA...stick this in your pipe and put it up your a$$. Muslims absolutely SICK!
Eumir sez... Islamic jihad sux but Kelly sux even worse!
Regardless of how anyone feels about this issue, Ms. Clarkson has a legally binding contract that obligates her to perform at every stop on her scheduled tour. She will be sued (and lose everything) if she cancels her performance. She will not be sued (or couldn't possibly lose a lawsuit) if she is not responsible for not being able to perform. All she can do at this point is wait to see if the show is shut-down by another party, and show up with extra security, if it isn't. Her hands are (legally) tied. As far as I'm concerned, people that are so stupid as to think their children are going to smoke just because of advertising, shouldn't take their children to the concert. Children don't pay attention to advertising, unless it's toys or cereal or candy. Parents (as mine did) have the power to teach their children that they can't have what they want. As far as advertising goes, I'd rather return to the days of my youth, when cigarette advertising was allowed on TV, but condoms, Rx drugs, various birth control devices, and ambulance chasing lawyers were not. Several times every single day, I cringe, hearing a TV commercial spouting that a birth control pill does not treat STDs, including HPV, AIDS, etc. How could ANYONE be so flaming stupid?
Bull! This is more about whoever is controling the cigarette market over there not wanting another product having more promotion over their product coming in. Plain and simple. And yes many Muslims smoke like a freight train, be it hash or tobacco (maybe not all but many do). Its always about territory or money. Faith was just being used as an excuse (In this case). As for Muslim beliefs; get it straight with your own people first...don't preach it to us till your own house is in order. Islam is always a peaceful religion according to you people (on every forum) after one of your flock went out and blew innocent people up.
Once again we see outdated hocus-pocus religions imposing silly rules on people. Don't know about you, but I'm getting pretty sick of their hypocrisy.
I am glad that I don't live there, and I am happy to be an American. I am sorry for their people, because their country is like living in the dark ages.
It's silly to believe devote this much attention to one specific Muslim group as if it is representative of all Islamdom. The fact of the matter is that many, many, many Muslims smoke, including Muslims who consider themselves to be and who are considered to be pious Muslims. However it is true that if devout Muslims drink alcohol they are aware that it is alcohol consumption is widely frowned upon in Islam. In any case, giving credence to one particular group as having the authority to speak for Muslims is like saying one particular group of, let us say for example, Mormons has the authority to say that all Christians must be celibate before marriage, never be unfaithful to their spouses, and that it is okay to commit acts of violence against doctors who perform abortions–and that such a group could be representative of all Christendom (including Catholics).
To all you people who have perfect bodies..stop with the weight comments...just ready with some idiotic ,mean comment. The world of 2010!!! I suppose you all have wonderful singing voices.
After reading all these (stupid) comments, I can't help but say to you all that the LAST things you should be concerned about are bloated, shallow entertainers, outdated and hypocritical religious systems, and greedy, death-dealing global corporations. Seriously, your GREATEST threat is incurable stupidity. That will kill you before anything else gets a chance to.
Kevin, I think you might have been hearing the wrong things about Islam. If you care enough to know, you can do some research before making comments. If you don't, then leave it. Peace =)
I wish our leaders had as much balls to stand up to the evil corporations...bravo to Muslims on this one
Is it so hard to just cancel the sponser and search for a new sponser. Kelly Clarkson could feed Africa with her money, if money is all she cares about than she would better just say she wants the sponsership of tabacco. Why so afraid can't she just tell the truth insted of saying "for my fans" as if she cares.
On the positive side, many of you are anti-smoking, anti-Muslim & anti-Kelly Clarkson – Alhamdullillah!!!!
Which one will kill you sooner – tobacco or kelly clarkson's attempts
at singing? The singing may be more painful...
Give me a very large break. And please, what is a Kelly Clarkson? I have never heard of one.
Don't make me keep your music in the 'purchased' play list...if you really care about your fans, you'd better snip your tobacco ties faster than the cancerous throat legions of some of your 'other fans'!
I suggest you guys read the article below, before making any negative posts here, yes, It' may be double standards, but whatever it is,.It's been very concerning the depth of consuming cigarettes in Indonesia and I think it's a good move for an influenced organization in that country to "ban" smoking....:
“Indonesia is a big concern, a big epidemic, a big population, and very little control,” said Dr. Prabhat Jha, a tobacco control expert at the University of Toronto’s Center for Global Health Research. “They have a chaotic taxation and regulatory structure. They have made the mistake of letting the Marlboro Man into the country.”In recent months, anti-tobacco forces have rallied. A new health law has declared smoking addictive and urged the government to hammer out tobacco regulations. An anti-smoking coalition is pushing for tighter restrictions on smoking in public places, advertising bans and bigger health warnings on cigarette packages.
Public debate also exploded last month after Indonesia’s second-largest Islamic organization, Muhammadiyah, issued a fatwa banning smoking. Though not legally binding, the religious ruling does put pressure on smokers in the world’s most populous Muslim nation.
Now REGIA ANDI you are overlooking you religouse laws so stop that. No really I hope you get to see her and enjoy yourself.
The more I hear about Islam the more I understand why Isreal is so tuff with you all. You are so rediculouse in your clames. What about all those big BHONGS you toke on in the crack parlours.
Please, please, please don't cancel the concert.
I've been waiting for Kelly Clarkson's concert for 4 years!!
I'm a muslim too, please ban the tobacco company after the concert!!
This again shows that the islomic laws are written by humans and not Allah, so what ever the top dud feels like this decade is what goes. Can any of you Muslums think for yourselfs or do you need to be held by the hand for everything
This is such a NOTHING news. A case of religious 'holier-than-thou's trying to catch attention by doing something dramatic. whats new there?
dont kid urselves by blaming any particular religion. segments from every single religion do this.
Wow Mark. That says a lot about you.
What is a Kelly Clarkson, ?????
The French Can ban the Burqa, banning a cigarette sponsor doesnt seem that bad. Everybody is banning whatever they dont like.
Interesting take on a country that has more smokers per capita than any other country that I have visited in my lifetime (over 80 at last count). Islamic cultureor not there is more smoker advertising in Jakarta Raya tha most other entire countries. Children of 7 or 8 yrs oldonthe street smoking and no one does anything about it.
Wow. How ironic. I'm an American, living in Indonesia, and TONS of people smoke here, including young children. If this is the country with the highest percentage of Muslims, then there's a good chance the people smoking are also Muslim and are going against their own faith. How hypocritical!
My Fellow Americans, I suggest you watch the movie "Islam: What the West Needs to Know". This film is readily available on net flix for instant viewing. It seems our govt is totally inept at dealing with the islamicism spreading across the world. Thomas Jefferson said the best national defense is a well informed, well trained public citizen militia. Let watching this movie be your first step to protecting America. The producers of South Park should take this threat seriously and hire security immediately.
Why did they name the article : 'Fatwa' bans Clarkson concert? I think it shouldve been : Clarkson sponsors cigarettes or something like that.
The media is not being truthful, or let me rephrase, saying the whole truth.
Anyone that will be kissing your ass would be taliban Caliber, you know what i mean if you have been to afghanistan ;) , but they would do it with a grenade.
IF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET UPSET AND ANGRY OVER ONE OF KELLY CLARKSON'S CONCERTS BEING SPONSORED BY A TOBACCO COMPANY...
THEN THEY ALL MIGHT AS WELL GET UPSET AND ANGRY AT THE MOM NEXT DOOR, SPREADING 'KRAFT' MAYO ON HER SON'S SANDWICH.
HUNDREDS OF PRODUCTS MOST OF US USE ON A DAILY BASIS, ARE OWNED BY TOBACCO COMPANIES!!!!!!
(IF YOU WERE NOT ALREADY AWARE OF THIS)
AND KRAFT IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY COMPANIES THAT THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY OWNS!!!
EVEN SOME OF THE ANTI-SMOKING CAMPAIGNS ARE RUN AND FUNDED BY TOBACCO COMPANIES!
...NICOTINE GUM AND OTHER PRODUCTS USED FOR TRYING TO QUIT SMOKING ARE MOST LIKELY FUNDED BY THEM AS WELL,
-HENCE THEY MUST BE A CUSTOMER OR HAVE SOME SORT OF DEAL WITH AT LEAST ONE TOBACCO COMPANY IN ORDER TO GET SOME OF THE NICOTINE THEY USE IN THEIR PRODUCTS.
CARTIER JEWELRY IS JUST ONE OF THE MANY, OWNED BY A BIG TOBACCO COMPANY.
WALMART IS ALSO ONE OF THE TOBACCO INDUSTRYS NUMBER ONE CUSTOMERS, HENCE MAJORITY OF THE JEWELRY AND PRODUCT THEY SELL THERE IS OWNED AND DISTRUSTED BY A BIG TOBACCO COMPANY!
YOU MIGHT AS WELL RETHINK 'STARBUCKS' COFFEE
BECAUSE KRAFT DISTRIBUTES TO THEM TOO!
SO I HOPE THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE UPSET OVER THIS 'KELLY CLARKSON' ISSUE, HAVE INTEGRITY.
-YOU AT LEAST HAVE NONE OF THESE TOBACCO SUPPORTING PRODUCTS IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD, OR CONSUME THEM IN YOUR DAILY LIVES.
(WHICH I MIGHT ADD, IS KINDA HARD TO 'NOT' DO) :)
OTHERWISE, IT WOULD ONLY BE FAIR TO SAY, YOU ARE JUST AS BAD, IF NOT WORSE (BASED ON HOWEVER MANY YEARS CONSUMED) REGARDLESS OF HOW SMALL OR HOW MUCH SPENT, ONE THING IS MOST CERTAIN:
YOU ARE STILL SUPPORTING THESE BIG TOBACCO INDUSTRIES!
AWARE OR UNAWARE.
Honestly – How many fans do you think that she has there?
I would not set one big toe into that country. You could easily do something that might offend the authorities. They just passed a law this week that upholds the "blasphemy" rule about offending Islam. You could get 3 years or more for saying that Muhammad smoked weed or Muhammad is not real. These pathetic souls are doing more harm than good in a pitiful effort to elevate religion higher and higher and higher until everyone has to pray all day long and nothing else gets done. I do agree that cigarettes are bad for you, but smoke in moderation and please moderate your religion. God has not spoken to you and you are not "all-knowing". Accept that fact and give me a light.
Before making rude comments, one should do a little research on
Indonesia and Islam in Indonesia.
Indonesia is not formally an Islamic country, although almost 9 out
of 10 Indonesians claim to be Muslims, and divorces must go
through religious courts.
Indonesians in general (and by extension Muslims in Indonesia)
are tolerant. (I would say they are so tolerant that corruption is
allowed to reign free, but that's a another topic.) The two biggest
Islamic organizations, Nahdlatul Ulama and Muhammadiyah are
therefore quite moderate.
Smoking is a problem in Indonesia, and the tobacco lobby in
Indonesia is very powerful. That is why Indonesia has not
signed on to ban tobacco sponsorships.
Fatwas by big Islamic organizations are not legally binding
but do carry some political weight. Before declaring that
tobacco smoking is "haram", they weigh the pros and cons
of tobacco and decided that the cons far outweigh the pros,
so the fatwa is not without base.
I do not necessarily agree with all the fatwas, but in this
case I laud Muhammadiyah. Of course you are free to
agree or disagree with this, but please base your comments
on actual facts.
She is crazy to even go there to do a concert. I would not step foot in an Islamic country. Yes, they want to control the rest of the world. And they do not hesitate to say it. Get the movie The Third Jihad and see for yourself, what they say, in their own words, as to what they have planned for the U.S. and other countries. Also, do a search on "takeover of America" + Muslim and see what you get. Wake up America. They plan to have all U.S. Islamic by 2020. WAKE UP
To Pat /John Patterson You are a greatest idiot. Islam forbids all kinds of intoxication. Study Islam before you post any ignorant comments.
Muslims can kiss my USMC ass!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:"Stupid.., stupid.. n, very stupid !. Muhamadiyah Org has recieved money fr NY.Gov to make fatwa 'haram' about tobaccos n now the gimmicks goes to US artistta"...
chichi, I am a Muslim because I believe. Peace =)
I so sick of this oversensative polically correct society. All these different 'movements' about not smoking, or saving whales, or whatever the case need to die, like yesterday. This kind of crap HAS TO STOP.
Let her have the d@mn concert and get the hell over it retards....oh no, now someone is gonna come after me for saying retards....
Ok here come the idiots like Chris preaching gospel. :lol:
I'm going to defend Kelly again here.
It is really not her decision to drop the sponsorship, because the agreement is between the sponsor and the promoter, not with her or her management. The promoter then contacted the management and so on. Both parties (the promoter and the management) should have been aware of controversy-provoking issues like this and hopefully are more careful in the future.
Apparently no one told the Muslim population who are doing time as guests of the state of California that their "peaceful" religion bans tobacco. I guess it's o.k. for the Imam to keaster stash it and bring it in to his disciples though. That must be the purification process.
Mmuslim, hallalujah but don't blame the muslims if you go blind looking at fat pigs in your hillybilly town because of this.
Also, I should add that muslims hate god less communists so time for american women to dress like russian chicks. This should work ;)
That's fine. If those Islamic Fascists don't want Kelly Clarkson in their country, it's their loss.
Can someone pass a fatwa to ban Islam
Talk about insecure basket cases. They have no confidence in the teaching of the parents or the clerics.
ok i have noticed that among the muslim the only ones who understand it actually stay quite and while the those who are extreme or show off are actually shouting out. Found that from certain books.
Anyway to blame islam is kind of easy, i mean what about discrimination and the ku klux klan, werent they extreme. The only thing i notice is a group now facing with extremist problems. Everyone has them, question is how do we filter and get rid of them while saving the next generation from them.
OK, dee, WHY are you a Muslim? Muslim women are treated like cattle. Be a real woman and run, not walk, away from your squirrely religion.
Go Kelly. These religious fundamentalists shouldn't be bowed to every time they try to get their way. People have to show them that they cannot force their ideology on others.
What a bunch of hypocritical looser those Indonesian so-called Muslim.
Almost ALL Muslim Indonesians I know are smokers. Yanuar Ilyas is an uneducated, narrow-minded, egomaniac, and just pretty a sad person. Get a LIFE looser!
I think her music should be banned in all countries. TERRIBLE!
It's quite hypocritical for this Islamic organization to ban Kelly Clarkson's concert. Cigarette companies sponsor nearly all music concerts in Indonesia, so it's foolish that they would only hold her up to that standard. (It is also foolish for them to ban smoking, which actually is NOT forbidden in the Islamic religion. There are few prohibitions in the Islamic religion, and these include pork, drugs/alcohol, running blood, or animals that are already dead when you encounter them.)
Idiots need an excuse to show their repression...
different country, different rules...different person, different opinion...just respect other opinion even its silly...
I am a Muslim who lives in Jakarta, doesn't smoke and plan to attend her concert. How on earth did she know that she's sponsored by a tobacco company? There was no consent about this whatsoever, and this is clearly the promoter's responsibility.
I have to also point out that smoking is NOT forbidden in Islamic rules, but it should be prevented, whatever the religion is, for it causes health problems later in life if not immediately.
And, tobacco companies are ones of the few that give the highest number of tax to the country, so while its existence is harmful and dangerous, we are still living in hypocrisy, I have to admit.
But nonetheless, it is certainly NOT Kelly Clarkson's fault and I believe those group of Muslims don't hold anything against Americans or American Idol in general, and please, do not tag all Muslims with anti-American label. As hard it is to believe, there are more Muslims who love peace that what appears to be.
I am a Muslim who lives in Jakarta, doesn't smoke and planned to attend her concert. How on earth did she know that she's sponsored by a tobacco company? There was no consent about this whatsoever, and this is clearly the promoter's responsibility.
I have to also point out that smoking is NOT forbidden in Islamic rules, but it should be prevented, whatever the religion is, for it causes health problems later in life if not immediately.
And, tobacco companies are ones of the few that give the highest number of tax to the country, so while its existence is harmful and dangerous, we are still living in hypocrisy, I have to admit.
But nonetheless, it is certainly NOT Kelly Clarkson's fault and I believe those group of Muslims don't hold anything against American or American Idol in general, and please, do not tag all Muslims with anti-American label. As hard it is to believe, there are more Muslims who love peace that what appears to be.
Since when do Muslims have a problem with smoking? I did some training with the Egyptian navy, and most of them were smokers.
More fatwa stupidity.
the muslims that smoke arent the ones that are dictating that others shouldn't smoke. how old are you to make such a stupid statement?
You people that are attacking Islam because it seeks to ban cigarettes are ridiculous. When you attack muslims for a real fault like targetting civilians thats fine and understandable but when you attack muslims for something that health organizations seek to do as well thats just pure hate. that is why muslims are distrustful of us and are upset when their religion or prophet is mocked. you claim its not a real attack and its just satire and its just a cartoon, but they see it as a real attack and that is corroborated by the fact that you even attack it for something good. if you are not racist then you must recognize the good as well as point out the faults, but if you attack both the faults and the good then you are a racist. pure and simple fact.
why do some of you people have a problem with muslims banning smoking or being against smoking? thats a good thing. health agencies are allowed to do it but not religion? the ban doesnt stem from an idea that cigarettes are evil or anything. it is a logical ban based on health concerns and part of islam says that humans should take care of their body. you people are so caught up on hate of islam or religion in general that you don't recognize any good that comes out of it as good. kind of like fanatics closing their eyes to anything other than what they think. dont be hypocrites.
This is getting out of control! free loving people must stand up to this censorship by the Islamic world! What are we in the dark ages??????
if only the Matthew Myers would shut up about it, and let any artists do whatever they want and not mingle in some other country's business, they wouldn't banned her. This only happens because of the yesterday's article, and of course Indonesia Islamic organization needs to safe its face. I think Myers needs to focus on doing the campaign in the US before saying anything about some other country. Kelly's just doing their job, the tobacco company too, the rest are about choices.
It is ironic that so many Muslims smoke and yet dictate others what or what not to do.
Kelly has little if any control over tour dates, locations and sponsors. You really think she's on the phone with booking agents and promoters filling up her calander. She was likely unaware of the tobacco sponsor let alone the whole no smoking deal.
Really people, get over it. If someone was paying all your expenses and all your cost, would you really care who was the sponsor??? You're in it for the money and fans, but would you put on a concert on your dime, simply because someone didn't agree with your sponsor? Sponsorship = money, Lack of sponsor = You pay for your fans...now who in thier right mind would do that? Either get over it, or don't go to the concert.
This is nothing to do with the singer using a tobacco company as a sponsor.
This has everything to do with something else entirely. Smoke n mirrors all the way. It's so obvious that it hurts my head.
I think she should start smoking....she might lose 100 lbs.
They didn't ban her because of tobacco, they banned her for her unbridled adoration of bacon.
i was in jakarta in january and nearly suffocated everywhere i went because of all the cigarette smoke. you have got to be kidding me with this story. clearly this isn't relective of the population, just the extremists. let the people enjoy their music.
I wish the world would not only ban smoking but ban religion as well
Interesting thiing here is how this conflicts with other countries' interpretations of what is not Islamic. I've been to Saudi Arabia, people there are chain smokers. I wonder if you ever have people from Saudi go to Jakarta, not be able to smoke, and then whine "They're infringing on my rights!"
@ Big George in Big D – April 21st, 2010 4:35 pm ET
@saresse – I do agree with you but "there" is incorrect. Proper word in this case is their!
I agree....posts with bad grammar or bad spelling drive me nuts....most people don't know the difference between "there" or "their" or between "your" and "you are". Drives me nuts!
What? This is a ludicrous and hypocritical statement by the cleric... Indonesians are some of the heaviest smokers of nasty cigarettes (cloves + tobacco) that can be found anywhere. It's perfectly OK to sell cigarettes throughout Indonesia, but not OK to hold a concert there. Laughable.
islamic law...what a joke!
AMEN TO DIEGO!
Man I don't know whats stupider, the muslims for issuing a fatwa or CNN thinking this is news
This is sooooooooooo funny!!!!!! I love it. Will they ban a New Kids on the block reunion show too?
Stefani....I think you're the pig!! You ought to be ashamed of the way you speak of another person.
Wow. Double standards there! and Loretta no KC doesnt smoke. On Youtube, look up Detroit Chivas soundcheck, someone there was smoking and she got ticked off.
It's not her fault, she doesn't deal with all the sponsors and for a country who doesn't have a ban on smoking ads, I see no big deal here.....
another stupid muslim rule .. if there is fatwa on tobacco, those people should close down all tobacco businesses in indonesia. so many muslim smoke. i guess there is no fatwa in killing people. i am not a smoker and i don't like to be in smoking areas.
that sucks for her fans
Wonder if she smokes...bet she does.
I wonder if the Muhammadiyah has declared it 's forbidden for Muslims to blow up innocent people including other Muslims in terrorist attacks?
And it's ok to smoke a hookah in Jakarta (flavored tobacco) but they are up in arms over a cigaratte company sponsoring a concert? Maybe Kelly should get Jakarta Hookah Inc to sponsor her concert?
good for her. she is there to put on a good show. if they don't want her, fine. she's sold 23 million albums worldwide. she doesn't need some whacky country when she's got europe, the states and australia loving her!
If only they had banned her for for lack of talent and originality. That would be something worth reading about.
Tough break for Kelly. She could have billed herself there as "Jakarta the Hutt."
first off, she wont get in trouble for her lose lose comment. artists talk crap about their labels all the time, including her. i commend her for not letting down her fans. it has always been about her fans you can find proof of that over the years of her media spottings, fan videos. in her trip to africa last month, the bodyguards immediately told nearby fans to put cameras away and she said No its ok! she was in no makeup at the airport. leave her alone people at least she isnt some tramp who cant sing but takes their clothes off for a tour to sell it. she has always put out positive messages. calling her fat too wont earn you the millions she has! in 2005 alone she earned 35m. she doesnt need anyones money or criticizing, shes making music for people who love her. LETS ALL LOOK UP TO LINDSAY LOHAN AND THE KARDASHIANS! YES!
THe Quran never says that someone isn't allowed to smoke. Islam prefers you don't, because it's harmful to your body.
Kill innocent bystanders by the thousands with female suicide bombers but it's a no no to smoke. What a joke!!!!
Jeez there are a lot of teabaggers and Zio folk about!
What this boils down to is a concert designed for children is being sponsored by a tobacco company. That's illegal in the US also.
What exactly is the problem?
Oh yeah Indonesia is mostly Muslim....
"Indonesia is among the world’s five largest cigarette makers"
I like your comments Phyl. Kelly has always been honest with her fans. She loves her fans. Please read her BLOG in total. There's a lot of hypocracy in many of these statements. Kelly Clarkson will be at her concert and give her fans what they deserve – a great performance by a great artist....Let all the political crap stop.
Baloney to the last post. She doesn't have dancing numbers in her concerts. She can actually sing & doesn't need the trappings like some do.
She had Mohammed dressed as a dog for one of her dancing numbers.
She's not doing it for the fans, she's doing it for the MONEY. If the fans were important to her she never would have chosen a tobacco corporation for a sponsor.
Or, excuse me I fatwaed.
Ooopps I fatwaed.
These ignorant sub-human muslim clerics need to be exterminated, their threats need to be answered with overwhelming force and no quarter or mercy.
There was this interesting comment about Muslim men having to commit suicide if they see naked women other than their wives. I think this is absolutely ridiculous. This person has clearly no knowledge about Islam and has based their judgement on I don't know what. I would suggest at least doing some research before you start making assumptions about another religion.
Well, this fatwa will be a terrible blow to all the arabs that own convenience stores that make most of their money selling cigarettes, beer and girly mags. Guess they'll have to start selling camel scarves or something...
So anyone who doesn't have a tobacco company sponsor one of their concerts is "send[ing] a powerful message to children in Indonesia and around the world that they, too, should reject the tobacco industry's deadly products and marketing?"
How about FATWA on muslims who fart?
It's good to see that these islamic groups have time to worry about cigarette smoking, considering the number of their brothers that are lighting up....their bomb vests. Hope they learn to prioritize in the future....
we need to get over ourselves. Do we really care who is sponsering an event. If you're against it dont go.
She should just put on the concert and let the Tabacco companies pay the fine. They are used it anyway.
who wants to go to Indonesia anyway? stay out of muslim countries and cities. Dubai is a good example of a city that will collapse because westerners will not go there. good riddance
How is smoking forbidden by Islam?
They didn't know about the tobacco plant bag then and Muslim countries have some of the largest users of Hashish and other narcotics in the world, both currently and historically.
I dnt think that she should b put in that position. Its most likely not evn her choice on who can sponsor or not. They need to unserstand that she is signed under a label so its not HER choice. Totally unfair and I sympathize for her. She should go perform for her fans but she should b prepared for chaos
How weird, I used to smoke Jakartas.
You cannot be considered intelligent if you are a smoker. Cigarettes should be sold with a 1000% tax and the proceeds go directly to educating children of the dangers and sheer stupidity of smoking. It is unfortunate that there will probably be Muslim Imams outside the venue whacking Muslim kids with cane poles as they come out ... but ... they are on the right track trying to teach their kids that smoking is absolutely wrong.
I think there are bigger things that need to dealt with. Music is not allowed in Islam so I think Indonesia should first stop that and then talk about tobacco. And for people who think Muslims are telling what to do to others, that is so wrong. I think we should really carefully look at who is telling who what to do.
So, selling and smoking cigarettes is wrong, but using heroin and other drug proceeds to support fundamentalist holy wars is okay? I'm confused.
The thing about the sponsorships is bizarre. I don't understand all this sponsorship anyway. Isn't the price of the tickets to pay for the concert? When you pay $125 a seat to See the Eagles in concert, for instance, and there thousands and thousands of fans in the stadium, why should ANYONE need additional sponsors? If sponsors are paying for the concert, then why are concert tickets SO FRIGGIN EXPENSIVE?
I like this ban. Helps keep mediocrity at bay!
What would be the reaction if the Baptist Church banned her concert in the US? But, the Islamic nuts can dictate the views on all and all accept it because the nuts might kill you if you do not obey!
Children suicide bombers = OK
Children forced into marriage at 10 years = OK
Children smoking = Bad
It's not necessarily 'lose-lose'. Make it a 'win-win' by continuing on with the concert and donating proceeds to lung cancer. hah..hah...
While I don't agree with using a cigarette sponsor and believe she really needs to be a grown up and get involved in the business end of her organization....There is a very large muslim community in the city where I live. LOTS of them smoke.
its just a bunch of political BS. who cares about the muslims and how they feel about a sponser. they booked the gig so there should not be a problem once so ever with her preforming for them. the fact is if whoever signed her for this appearence did not know the law thats on them not on kelly. the soul porpouse of this is just for the muslims to have a peice of "good" publicity instead of it all being them bombing us on our home soil or our troops overseas.
suicide bombers – approved
smoking – not approved, bad for your health.
A singer ought not be supported by or support tobacco industries PERRIOD. What kind of message is she giving? Singers need their clear voices and lung support. Eveyyone knows that!
Next thing these nutcakes will be doing is hanging witches!!!!!
I wish smoking was forbidden in the US!! It's just stupid and annoying.
Give me a break. Do you also want to cancel all the football games with beer sponsors? Just because they're sponsoring it doesn't mean she condones selling cigarettes to minors. Give me a break.
More crazy from radical islam
Some of the disrespect that's being directed toward Kelly in here is a bit shocking and uncalled for. In order to understand this situation, you need to better understand her career. None of these things are under her control – they're under the control of her record label, and in the case of touring, her management. Keep in mind that her management is actually run by Narvel Blackstrock, husband and manager of Reba McEntire. These people do not typically have to deal with managing worldwide tours, because their artists are country artists. In that case, it's no wonder that they'd make such a mistake.
Cut Kelly some slack. Also, anyone bashing her fans, please do your research. If you knew anything about her, you'd know she's really quite the anti-pop star, by modern definition. Truly a class act and a flawless voice.
Brandon, I agree 100%. Also, this article is about Kelly & is no place for ignorant people to express their pea brain views on the Muslim religion. Not all Muslims are terrorists & not all terrorists are Muslims, so keep quiet.
do ur thing kelly
they strap bombs to their kids but tell us if we can smoke or not????? kind of silly on their part. let them show us their civilization in a better light than well listen,
CNN will just keep censoring me people. Americans quit your fantastical role playing... I can't explain anything on this comment b/c they don't want you to know the truth. Please guys, research how the democrats and republicans are the same. Google the capital words here – FALSE democrat LEFT republican RIGHT federal reserve PARADIGM main stream media... You are being brainwashed
YES, she signed a contract. And other contracts all budgeted with this and other sponsors. She could even be sued by the LA Lights company if she says negative things about them – her "lose/lose" comment could get her in trouble. You don't knock your sponsors. We have an outdoor concert hall in Dallas called the "Smirnoff Center" – I personally thought it was in poor taste, but Smirnoff updated the center and made it beautiful and a great place and it brings name artists to the area. It's business.
But – for Pete's sake, people, this is not about Muslim. Since you brought it up – are you aware there are more Muslims than any other single religion in the world? Dissecting or making fun of the word "fatwa"? I'm sure "being saved" puzzles them too.
It's a bit unfair for Kelly to be taking all of this heat, when it's really not something she deals with. Anyone that follows Kelly knows that she's not one to attract drama, and this is the last thing she wants.
Besides, why are we focusing on this, but no GaGa wearing a pair of glasses made out of lit cigarettes, or The Black Eyed Peas, whose world tour is sponsored by Bacardi? Talk about a double standard.
More religious hypocrisy but this time not Christian hypocrisy. Fundamentalism of any kind is deadly and intolerant.
Wouldn't the world be a much better place if there wasn't any Muslim fascism.......oh well........
its a major leage non issue. big deal. go ahead kelly, do the concert. they were in strip clubs the night before 9/11, lol, the whole islam thing is a big fake. lets face it, she's american, thats enuff for islam.
The link to this article on the main page read "Fatwa bans Kelly Clarkson concert".....I find this a little difficult to understand
This is a bit of an assumption on my part, but Just because there is a fatwa against her concert, that does not necessarily mean that it will have to be banned, at least not in Indonesia anyway. If it was Saudi Arabia it would be different because there sharia is the law of the land and fatwas are taken seriously by the government.
I have not been to Indonesia, but as far as I know, Indonesia isn't a secular state per se; the ideology it is founded on is Pancasila, part of which is religious in a general sort of sense, but in Indonesia grants religious freedom, although there are five religions that are considered "recognized".....Still there are some parts in Aceh province where Islamic Fundamentalist have gained power and opened Sharia courts, but that's a small province in Western Sumatra, and more than 60% of Indonesia's population lives on Java, where Jakarta is.
So is she being banned at all?? or is this just an edict given by a religious organization with no "real" power??
If she is really "banned" is it because of the Fatwa?....or the general concern that it will encourage children to smoke?
When Muslims visit other countries they indulge in tobacco, booze, women and what ever else is banned in their country.
Why would anyone want to do a concert in this country anyway? Screw them.
I take it all the muslim appologizers posting here that are talking about the catholic priest perverts have not heared about their own bachi bazi sickness? Hypocrit muslim F--cks Thank god Im a protostant.
Straping a bomb to yourself in order to kill infidels who don't believe in a pretend god: GOOD!
Ah, the beauty that is islam.
I lived in Jakarta for a number of years and those were the heaviest smokers I have ever been around. Talk about hypocrits - plus they typically smoke clove cigarettes without filters. Such a silly rule for the Muslims to try to enforce BUT they are powerful in that country.
DO as I say...not as I do? Now I know where that came from....
I heard Mohammad smoke and was also gay....go figure
The never ending claim of being "offended". From Indonesia where drinking is on the "no-no" list but the "most populous Muslim country" where it is estimated that 60% of the population are alcoholics.
So let's get real people. If they are drinking, they are also smoking. This claim of strict adherence by these "devout Muslims" is no more true than for any other religion. So stop buying into it.
JUST BECAUSE SHE IS SPONSERED BY A TOBACCO CO. DOESNT MEAN IT IS TARGETING CHILDREN..I MEAN ITS A FREE COUNTRY ID YOU WANT TO SMOKE THAN SMOKE IF NOT THEN DONT DO IT.
from my understanding of the islam there's nothing wrong with smoking in fact all the men in middle eastern countries smoke hash , weed, or tobacco so i guess in jakarta india the muslim there dont smoke. if they feel that she could have a better sponsorships then they should be real about the situation and tell her to find another company to back her show- just to throw it out there dont they have a herion problem over there anyway so-allah knows his servants hearts and to him i wish a happy 420 and im stiking up for you-
Muslims aren't allowed to smoke? Maybe someone should have told 95% of the Middle Easterners in the world. No one smokes quite like the Middle Easterners!
Kelly Clarkson is simply the best female singer today! Don't care if she got her start on American Idol. She has sold over 25 million albums, works her b–t off & supports a lot of people. I bet no one would have even known who was sponsoring this concert, if this hadn't been brought up. She should just go ahead & play the concert & sing her heart out like she always does. By the way, she's about a size 14, which is what most American women are so knock off the fat comments. Most of you can only wish you had 1/1000000000 her talent.
i despise islam so much u wont believe it, yet i dont resort to terrorism
As of now there are 141 comments about this not to mention what's on Twitter, Facebook, TMZ, etc. Don't you think these comments are giving more publicity to LA Lights than her performing a concert? Have you ever heard of LA Lights until now?? Kelly Clarkson and Islam are also being promoted within the same context of this article about smoking. So I guess everyone gets what they want here including the 142 of us whom had nothing more to do that heighten the publicity of CNN, Kelly Clarkson, Islam and LA Lights...free advertisement that was sponsored by the masses.....not LA Lights.
elo, i am from a muslim country!!!!
I am from Jakarta and muslim and live in USA.
FYI, I dont really care about those kind Islam "Muhammadiyah" For me I am who I am. I believe what I believe. They "muhammadiyah) are atually only small of numbers of people who are vocal, the rest, they dont care, especially in small towns.
I hate people who act claim they are better than others.
in our hollybook it's said that Believe what you believe and let other people believe what they believe, and lets live together and help each.
For those people from Muhammadiyah, I wished they educate their people first to live healthy before banning that kind show.
Anyway, not in Indonesia or in US, or anywhere , conservative people act alike.
Be good people for yourself, your family, your society and for the world.
People smoke. The people who won't smoke, won't smoke. The people who will, will. It's as simple as that. The concert is about music, not sponsorship. And for god's sake, it's the entertainment industry, people smoke. Get over it and move on.
How about we use the principle of reciprocity? Forbid us to be free in your countries, we'll prevent you the freedom granted to humans in ours.
Careful...with the smoking primiscuous women... image that earthquake!!
good point elo, some priests are taking advantage of their status... but at least the kids are not groomed to be walking explosives
Remember, it is an Islamic organization saying the concert is banned, not the government. So, really, this matters about as much as PETA saying a concert sponsered by McDonald's is banned. This sounds more like a publicity stunt than anything else.
You know what is really funny? The company sponsoring the concert is an Indian company that employees a lot of women.
It's their country, their laws.
If you do not agree with their laws, than my suggestion is to stay in your own screwed up country and never leave it.
Americans are not only stupid, but arrogant.
What a putrid combination.....Artofwar
That's awesome!! Seriously, it's like you haven't made it until you're banned in a different country.
So it's a tobacco company sponsorship. So what. I'm sure she is sponsored by a lot of different companies. So you don't smoke, whoopee for you, now you are going to heaven with clear lungs. Don't impose your values on other people, live by example. If she is sponsored by McDonald's, some would not like it. As an artist, you have to jump through some unsavory hoops sometimes to share your artistic vision. Look, the Muslims are all crazy anyway and there are a lot of things they don't approve of, but I don't care what they think anyway. You can't buy cigarettes unless you are over 18, so who is selling to kids? By the way, someone said they didn't buy Clarkson tickets because they were $40. Only? That's a bargain!
She probably had to settle for an undesirable sponsor since really good companies wouldn't touch her tour. Previous tour got cancelled/rescheduled due to lack of ticket sales.
Isn't the muslim world where the Hooka was introduced...are you telling me they do not smoke tobacco? AHHH..must be drugs that are ok to smoke like hash and opium...makes complete sense now...
JESUS is a FAKE too.
Jiggy, get jiggy with it and smell the scent of your own hypocritical country and religion. PEOPLE WAKE UP.
seriously, i have some major major concerns with this religion. I wonder when they will issue a fatwa against stupid fatwas
This is a very two faced approach from a country who makes the most
clove cigarettes in the world. Clove cigarettes are based on some very
strong tobaccos, and are only flavored with clove.
It's alright to fly air liners into high rise buildings but you can't smoke???? It's is so obvious that islam is a sham created by an evil man.
YOU THINK MUSLIMS ARE HYPOCRITES: LOOK AT YOUR OWN RELIGION AND YOUR OWN CULTURE AND COUNTRY , IDIOTS.
I'm sure nobody in Indonesia smokes since it is against Islamic law, as is just about everything, so she should do what's right and not tempt them with our evil ways by endorsing it.
i have a strong feeling she will drop the tabaco ad cuz she will be chased by da media about her point of view of smoke free kids
Jakarta...isn't that where clove cigarettes are made? What a bunch of hypocrites.
Dave – You crazy bigot; you can't even spell "retarded" and have the audacity to call others names.
Jermey – I will say a special prayer for you tonight to get your lung cancer wish granted.
I lived Jakarta for many years and am proud Indonesian. I'm pro for "no smoking for kid" and "no sponsorship from tobacco industry" but it's up to the fans. Muhammadiyah (or Indonesian goverment) should ban the tobacco industry not the concert, then there won't be any kind of sponsorship for any concert. Muhammadiyah (or Indonesian goverment) should ban the Muslim people to watch the concert, (again) not the concert itself. The concert is not desctructive but it's for musical appreciation. The concert area may be declared as non-smoking area for health & safety reason. Indonesia is the biggest Muslim population in the world, but there are other non-Muslim people who also don't smoke and want to see the concert. Live it up to the people to decide! I love Indonesian to grow up to decide what the best for them rather than to be banned from everything.
Really? Really? I don't smoke and I am no fan of Kelly but this is laughable. Would you have been happy if it had been a beer company? How about an arms dealer? Bomb maker? Tobacco-Free Kids organization is just trying to get some press. Kids watch the Super Bowl and we know who sponsors those and today you all say cancel the concert? Sure it's the law and she should find another sponsor is she wants to go ahead but don't lecture her about the sponsor. You would all have that money in a minute.
Better off MUSLIM than CATHOLIC where kids are getting SODOMIZED and MOLESTED.
I am sure she signed a contract.
I don't agree with smoking either but If I were her I'd do the same thing. Of course she wants to get paid, everyone wants to get paid! She has bills too and just because she makes a heck of a lot more money than us doesn't mean she doesn't deserve her money. There is no way, if I were her, that I'd let some other country tell me what to do! good for her for sticking to her guns!
Cant we all just get along. Islam and Christianity call people towards good, yet some of their followers are born into these religions and may not be perfect followers, and when they do something wrong it is only fair to judge them as individuals and not generalize by taking some people's actions and judging entire religions.
Just like we don't judge all priests or lay the blame for their perversions on the religion of Christianity (Catholicism) which they claim to follow so too must we be just and fair in assessing the actions of Muslims and not cast aspersions on Islam.
GUESS WHAT BOYS AND GIRLS. She has a CONTRACT. She just can't cancel a CONTRACT.
I think we should cut her some slack it is not like she made a specific choice for this. She has managers and "people" who handle this stuff. Having worked in the touring industry I know first hand you gt promoters in these foreign countries who sell sponsorships on the back end of their deals to try and make more money off bringing her to their country. I bet here mgmt didnt even know about this "sponsorship" till the story was on CNN.
It is called intolerance . The believe that the faithfull are charged with the responsibility of being the punishing hand of God..., wow, imagine a prophet declaring the use of tobacco a sin while sucking in a traditional middle eastern water pipe filled with something other than tobacco..., where I live tobacco is bad but sucking in a bottle of booze is ok., as long as it has a tax stamp on it... Go figure.
Clarkson doesn't care about kids smoking or her fans. All she cares about is THE MONEY!! That's why she wouldn't cancel her concert...She would be out ALL OF THAT MONEY! I guess she is an American Idol after all! She's going after that good ole' greenback!
Everyone is so anti-Muslim this and anti Muslim that. What about your own christian based damed religion? You cant smell your own s–t?
Let her have the concert and the sponsor....enough with other coutries and religions telling American's what to do.....good for her....she has more balls then most!
A lot of people are sick of "Muslims telling what they can or can not do"...what about your sick Chrisitanity and Catholic religions? I havent heard Muslim clerics so sick in the head that they molest little boys like Catholic priests.
If Muslims are so scared of tobacco they don't have to come enjoy the music. Its Muslims who sit around smoking those big hash pipes anyways. Another example of hypocritical Muslims wanting everyone to bow down to their nonsense
She is from America, so she is promoting debauchery and hedonism anyway. Cigarettes are a part of that...so yes she should be banned, for all of those right reasons. We're not Jakarta, and so long as they arent killing people, they should be doing what they want to. Its not our place to tell them right or wrong.
It's easy to suggest all she has to do is drop the sponsor or cancel the appearance — which are actually one in the same thing — but my guess is that, if she does, the Jakartan promoter, who has probably sold a ton of tickets so far, will sue her out of her tight jeans for breach of contract.
I love it! Articles like this separate the intelligent from the crackpots...lol!
Fatwa reminds me of the word Farquaad from Shrek.
@saresse – I do agree with you but "there" is incorrect. Proper word in this case is their!
I'd rather die of lung cancer than be muslim.
Dear Fascist Muslims,
Here in the USA we make comedy about everything. In my office I have a cartoon of Mohammad pretending to be Jesus giving Buddha a tattoo of a naked Woman talking to a Ganesh.
I guess I can't sing now too.
Good luck and don't forget to write!
Better off. Safer, elsewhere. As an American, no one should go to ANY Islamic country, whatsoever.
LOL. Every Muslim I know smokes like 3 packs a day. What hypocrites.
#1- Who cares about Kelly Clarkson or her music. It's just not any good.
#2- Who cares about the nonsensical "Fatwa's" pronounced by nonsensical proponents of a filty and non-sensical false religion.
#3- There is no such thing as "Muslim-American". You are either one or the other. Islam is incompatible with democracy and everything America is and stands for. Those of you that claim to me "Muslim-Americans", please leave because you will never be accepted by the majority of real Americans. You should not wonder why.
Many muslim countries are smokers and it is everywhere! I don't get it?
People of different faiths have used and still use religion as a cover to kill innocents whether children or adults. Hypocrisy is not confined to any religion. It would be wise to see past this and judge a religion on its own merits, not on the actions of someone who uses it for political cover.
The term you use "they" sounds like they all think the same and have the same motivations. Just like followers of other religions, muslims are different in their outlook depending where they originate. It is sad to see that many suffer from ignorance and choose to stereotype others because their education about islam and muslims comes from film and tv, hardly independent and truthful sources, more like propoganda machines.
There was a time when film and TV spewed propaganda about "Chinese", "blacks", "Red Indians" and now its the time for "them bad Muslims". Its unfortunate really that people eat up this rubbish, not realizing that they being misled.
To make it clear it is forbidden to hurt any innocent in name of god. By the way Allah means The one God and it is the name used in the arabic language for the One true god by muslims and christians.
Interesting facts about Islam.
Muslims believe in: One God the creator of all the universe, life after death, angels, all the prophets from Adam to Muhammad (may gods peace be upon them all), the day of judgement, Jesus (May god's peace be upon him) is the Messiah, who will return before the Last Day and will destroy the Dajjal (Anti Christ).
An islamic tradition: The best believer is the one who is most helpful to mankind.
F the Muslims, you stupid, ignorant backwards thinking pieces of garbage. If I find a plane, I will gladly ram it into a mosque.
no one should accept a tobacco company as a sponsor. it's just retarded. i'm not into extremists, but she ought to drop the sponsor regardless.
My sister was going to get me Kelly Clarkson tickets last year for my birthday...Until she realized they were $40 a pop. Not worth it!
I suppose the peace loving muslims would rather have a sponsorship from al queda in the poppy fields of Afghanistan.
Perhaps she should go after a sponsor ship from an explosives manufacturer..
I can't believe the comments here. A country that has deplorable human rights, especially for women, is saying they are not allowing a concert because of its tobacco sponsors, even though most practicing Muslims that I know smoke. What do you think is more threatening to Indonesia, a strong empowered woman giving an example to people or the fact that there might be a tobacco placard somewhere.
Wow you anti-smoking people really are blinded by your fanaticism.
kerri: ur right, that cleric was retarded. but still needs diet. lol
Saw her singing on a show a week ago in spandex. OMG! She had a camel foot, instead of a toe.
No..not an earthquake because of her weight, because the clerics say half dressed women are causing earthquakes.. Geesh.
dave, your spelling = retarded
earthquake is right! that girl needs a diet, she's a pig! don't want to see that dancing around anywhere. PX90
She's cute in a fat sorta way.
I'm waiting for the Fatwa that deals with people getting their heads lopped off in the name of the Almighty.
Certainly, the influence of the Muslim world is selectively brought to bear on items that present the least political challenge.
I respect all faiths, but not all religions. Religious organizations fall down miserably when they are afraid to enforce or scared that they might offend. It's a qualified disgrace and a pity. Perhaps the problems are too "complex." Right. Ahem........
Instead of playing a higher profile role in bringing the insanity of the rogue offshoots under control, they chose to go after smokers. A noble cause to be sure, but one that falls well short of the mark for where any responsible religious organization should be positioned in the world that, today, needs them so desperately.
i am a Christian person and i think it is not right to be sponsored by the cigarette's company, i don't think Kelly needs such sponsor, it is a bad exemple, she can do great with out it, i agree with the organisation about the ban.
Wow, look at all the self righteous people here telling Clarkson to drop the gig!
1. This is her job. I don't know about you, but I don't work for free. I also don't pay to come to work, which is what she'd be doing if she paid for this concert.
2. Rock stars don't make as much money as you think.
3. Touring overseas is a tremendously expensive proposition. I doubt Clarkson could pay the expenses for this one gig comfortably.
4. She has hundreds of people in her employ while on tour that depend on the concerts.
So, think before you type. Or practice what you preach, and go to work for free tomorrow and show your support for Kelly.
They probably only claimed it was because of Tabacco. They just don't want a female singer on a stage dancing around. It might cause an earthquake.
dave April 21st, 2010 3:39 pm ET
Muslims = retarted
Celly clarkson =retarted
How can things with so much in common hate eachother so much.
– – Ummm, dave...? Did you seriously not only call her CELLY, but then proceed to spell it "RETARTED"?? TWICE.
The irony is overwhelming. AND RETARDED.
it's ok to blow up a bunch of innocent children in the name of Allah, but heaven forbid they allow them to smoke tobacco.
Guess we shouldn't allow/support sports game either, since they are sponsored by beer companies, huh? The world is full of hypocrisy, and always will be.
Hmm, well, I know that money is money, but isn't it wrong in this day & age to have a tobacco company sponsor something other then NASCAR and horse races?
TimM, islam forbids intoxicants like drugs and alcohol, you're right that cigarrettes or tobacco wasn't around 1400 years ago, but the general principle of not poisoning oneself/killing oneself slowly still applies and was used to derive the prohibition of smoking. although many muslims are ignorant of that and/or addicted to the drug. I would imagine that most of the tobacco industry's revenues come from international sales, they wouldn't like this type of religious prohibition to gather any steam.
Can western celebrities please stop going to Muslim nations? It always ends with some sort of cancellation, "fatwa", controversery, censorship or something of that kind.... If they want to keep their crazy way of thinking, they can keep it there.
yeah, knock a religion, that's productive
but how about working on your spelling? haha
Let me guess the tobacco company sponsoring her tour is "Camel"? lol
Kelly should drop the sponsor and a couple of pounds while she is at it.
come on, she's not that fatwa
Islam reminds people to maintain their bodies in a pure state and respect it as a temple. Smoking, being unhealthy should be avoided. However in todays world many muslims do not follow perfectly the principles of Islam and have fallen prey to the harms of smoking, which was introduced into their societies from abroad, while those countries themselves are banning cigarette smoking in most public places. Hopefully it wont be long before the muslim countries follow with these type of bans.
Finally it must be noted that Islam is a way of life that models noble values and should not be faulted with the failings of many people who claim to follow Islam but who are followers in name only, while falling short in practice. As an example Islam teaches that its followers should value the virtues of kindness, generosity, tolerance, peacefullness, self sacrifice etc, and while many who call themselves Muslims strive to implement these values in their lives, some who call themselves Muslims, actually follow the path of materialism in their daily lives. It is the same with followers of other religions. Ultimately for the sake of being just and to maintain clarity it would be wise to distinguish between the true teachings of most religions and the failings of those who claim to be their adherents. For example Islam may dislike cigarette smoking, yet many muslims smoke and this would not be Islamic or Muslim culture, it is but the practice of some people.
We should not attribute a practice to any religion, unless it is specified in its belief system.
Whether, christian, jew or muslim the believer is only as good a believer as his actual practice which if imperfect is only a reflection on him and not on his religion.
Good. She's all about the money and more of a hack artist. Cigarettes are bad and terrible for children to get hooked on. The Islamic group is doing something good – but of course the fact that it's Islamic means it will get badmouthed on this thread – as everything Islamic does.
Americans – mind your own damn business.
I can't believe I'm saying it, but I'm hip with this fatwa.
Smoking BAD.. Killing non belivers GOOD. pfft... I also say that she should not only NOT cancle the concert, but dress up like a giant cigarette, go out on stage throwing cigars and rubbers at her fans and hang a giant image of muhammed from the back of the stage.
Fatwa on smoking, what are they going to try to ban next ? Beheading ?
Who's Kelly Clarkson?
Yes, if they were so righteously concerned about the preservation of all human life, you would think you'd see, at least now and then, Fatwas issued condemning suicide bombing and the random killing of civilians as done in the name of Islam all over the world today from Mumbai to NYC to Tel Aviv to Bali to Madrid to London to...
Wishful thinking I guess.
How did this get booked in the first place? I would have thought that whoever there approved the concert should have been aware of this Islamic Law.
I would agree that letting a tobacco company sponsor a concert that mostly kids would attend is not the best idea but how many beer companies sponsor concerts, auto racing, beach volleyball and such.
Why, why, why, can't people just mind their own business, STAY OUT OF OTHER PEOPLES LIVES. If children want to smoke they are going to smoke no matter what lame reason you give them. It's called LIFE, live it they way you choose, you only get one chance. As long as you are not hurting anyone else let people live their lives.
Islam may ban smoking but in Northwest Pakistan, especially in the Taliban tribal areas, they smoke massive amounts of hashish. What a curious world.
not that I agree with smoking, but most artist get sponsored so that more fans can actually afford to see the concert. Most concerts that aren't sponsored are quite a higher ticket cost.
If you're at a Kelly Clarkson concert in Indonesia you probably have bigger issues than being marketed to by a tobacco company. And for all these fatwa and jihad boneheads...go 'F' yourselves!!!
I lived in Jakarta for over ten years, and lived in several other muslim countries over the years. What cracks me up is that they are calling for a fatwa when so many people in Indonesia smoke. Heck, I've seen young kids smoking. I used to ehar people say that kids in Indonesia are born with a cigarette in their mouth. I am not saying I believe that, but you get the idea.
lol these people are ................................................
because of tobacco, she never strays too far from the sidewalk. It caused her to play on the safe side, so she won't get hurt. It's baffling when you realize that she finds it hard to trust not only her, but everyone else around her. I think tobacco has clearly made her afraid.
Kelly makes no sense: "My only option is to cancel" – "but I refuse to cancel on my fans" and then it is a lose-lose situation for her. Huh? Just do the concert without the tobacco sponsor, get another sponsor or do it yourself with the money you have from doing all the shows and ride the positive publicity.
Tell Mummy people to KISS OFF!!!
Who else beside a tobacco company would sponser her? or any other 'idol' contestant – girls gotta make a living I guess
I'm curious as to how Islam forbids smoking since tobacco was discovered in the New World, well after Mohammad lived? After all, the Koran is not the inspired word of God, it IS the word of God as given to Mohammad not subsequent generations.
I like that people in general criticize smoking and tobacco, but when 'Islam' or 'Muslim' are put in the same sentence, they have double standards.
She should come out and say, "I don't want to be one of these tards that are associated with smoking....like obama is".
mmuslim, where did you hear that if "a muslim man sees another woman naked he'd have to commit suicide"??? Islam tells you that smoking is not good for your health but I have never heard of smoking being perhibited by Islam.
As far as American women going out naked...by all means go for it!
I am a Muslim American man and I will enjoy watching your wife, mom and sister naked, and believe me I won't commit suicide!
Another sure sign that these people just make this stuff up as they go along.
She says she won't cancel because she doesn't want to disappoint the fans. Well, the article says that the concert is being banned, so the point is moot – she won't be able to perform anyway. if she really cares that much about the fans, she should drop the tobacco sponsor and find another. I have been a fan of Kelly's since watching her compete and win in the first season of American Idol. I hope for her sake she is being honest.
So these Muslims don't speak out against other Muslims, who train their children to blow themselves up in crowded markets... but they have a problem with children smoking? Really?
Concerts have been cancelled by artists over much less – if she's doing the concert for her fans but her fans are saying drop the sponsorship, what's the problem? Beside, if you're a fan of Kelly Clarkson, you have bigger issues than smoking.
KELLY CLARKSON CAUSES EARTHQUAKES SHE IS PROMISCUOUS!!
Does this mean Muslims don't smoke?!!!!!!????
Well, finally nice to see a newsworthy Fatwa by an Islamic organization that is positively motivated and actually trying to save lives (not only Muslim ones presumably).
Ordinarily when one sees "Fatwa" in a headline it is to condemn, outlaw, and often threaten the life of authors like Salman Rushdie, Danish cartoonists, or the creators of South Park, so this is refreshing.
The sooner organizations like these focus on life enhancing ideas and not mindless, divisive and belligerent rantings against the US, Israel and the West, the sooner peace can come to the world.
I can't believe how much CNN edited Kelly's response!
For those who post negative comments about muslims because they tell people what they cannot do.... are you saying that fundamentalist so-called "Christians" in the United States don't tell people what they can and cannot do? Under what rock do you live?
I have seen over a hundred concerts in my life, I have yet to go for who is the sponsor or to buy their products, I don't even know o care what they are selling. The only reason I go to a concert, is to enjoy the live performance of my favorite artist.
If you are lucky to have a functioning brain, you decide what is best for you, but if you can't think on your own, then let others decide for you.
I live in America, where I chose to go where I want to go. Whether is classical or hard rock, is my decision alone.
they are extemest muslims anyways, im sure they will just cut her head off and show it on youtube or something
Religion in any form is idiotic. This article is a case in point...
Maybe she should have drug dealers sponsor her seeing how 90% of the worlds opium comes from the middle east.
All of my Muslim-American friends smoke cigarettes like there will never be another crop of tobacco. Heck, I went to a party a couple weeks ago and the guy had a lavish hooka bar built in this huge house of his. They all drive Lexus and Mercedes booming out to rap music. They love gold chains, pretty much any bling. Why can't these Indonesian Muslims be more like the ones in our country.
I've felt for a long time that muslim extremists and the anti-smoking zealots had much in common . . .
Kelly, please think about the kids..By going with this sponsor, you are telling them it is ok to smoke, which could ultimately have horrendous consequences to there health. Money possibly is the issue here.
Dave said, Why don't the Islamic kids just stay home? so what in the devil she's doing there in Indonesia, and away from religion paranoia and many are paranoid about Islam...the whole stupid idea of a tobacoo company to sponsor anything from F1 race to music a disgusting and immoral idea
She must be locked into a heck of a contract. I bet there is no legal way for her to have the concert without the tobacco co. Even if she wanted to. She is right ,she is in a lose – lose situation.
Im guessing Clarkson didnt even know who was sponsoring the event until this mess blew up, but how about going forward you get to have final approval on sponsors? Its your name associated with those products, you should have some say.
If the Campaign for Tobacco-Free Kids were serious about the issue and not just spouting off to get cheap publicity, they would be willing to match the concert sponsorship commitment dollar-for-dollar. Don't think we'll see that happen any time soon.
These people have the right to ban Clarkson for whatever reason, however it won't make or break her.
Maybe I'm just cynical, but wouldn't it be more honest if the FDA said. "We're hypocritacal. . and we'll let other manufactures of lethal substances. . even those that can cause others to kill by proxy. . .be advertised simply because we get good kickbacks from them. . .and they're not getting any bad press as of yet"
My God. . .open your eyes people. Especially when it comes to being 'honest' and 'transparent' about who we let advertise and/or sponser and who we'll support by attending their sponsored events.
I don't hate God. I hate people pretending they are God's voice. There is but one God and he doesn't have to issue fatwa.
What a joke. In Iraq and especially Afghanistan, almost everyone smokes and the alternative currency to get something done is a pack of Marlboro reds. I have seen videos of Taliban lighting up, so please, don't tell anyone it's about smoking.
I didn't know they had such good taste in Jakarta.
Someone needs to relay that message to all the Muslims I work with in I.T. that take a smoke break every 30 minutes!
Why don't the Islamic kids just stay home? I don't like religion trying to dictate to me. We are seeing the rise of religious fundamental law and soon we will have more monarchs. What is next? They can write a fatwa at any time and most of them have nothing to do with Islam. They are using religion to dictate not for spiritual needs.
Different country, different rules... so be it. But even in America tobacco companies pretty much cannot advertise in any way, shape, or form so what do you expect. Maybe she should have had an alcoholic beverage company, pharmaceutical corperation, power company, lawyer, or investment firm sponsor her, they haven't harmed anyone unlike those evil big tobacco companies.
I'm not a fan but she can choose any sponsor she wants. She can perform at any venue she wants. If anyone has a problem with it, dont buy her album or dont go to her concert. Just stop whinning about stupid crap.
Why would Kelly Clarkson be dumb enough to hire a cigarette company to sponsor her, on her tour to sing to adolescents? She is that dumb? Really, Seth? Yes, really. Why doesn't she just get Osama bin Laden to sponsor her and go sing to the troops overseas???????
Fans my you know what. It's about the $'s Baby!!!!!!!
I had no idea that islamic law prohibits tobacco use. Having traved in many Muslim countries and befriended many practicing Muslims I found a very large percentage smoke. On the other hand, women's rights were not much of a priority. Is there a "smoke screen" in play here?
mmuslim..said if a Muslim man another woman naked different than his wife he should commit a suicide! who the hell told you so!? if this tells it tells how much paranoid and ignorant you are...
Why don't I see all of of these anti-smoking people picketing every movie and music video that shows people smoking? Moreover, why don't they protest shows that are sponsored by alcohol companies – are those good for kids?! Kelly doesn't smoke, and she doesn't advocate it. She clearly says so in her blog. Stop picking on Kelly for caring about her fans, some of whom have waited for years to see and hear her perform.
I guess it is ok with Islam to smoke an opium water pipe, just not tobacco products.
Forget the whole religious side of things; it just isn't good PR to have tobacco sponsors in music anymore.
These anti-tobacco nuts are as bad as the PETA nuts. If you're child is smoking then you have failed as a parent, don't blame it on advertising.
If I were Clarkson, not only would I not cancel the concert, but I would smoke on stage and throw cigarettes out to the audience.
If she wants to do "the concert" for her "fans", then she should be looking for another sponsor quick, and to drop the tobacco sponsors.
saresse, your idiot! and your comments worth nothing.
"If she rejects tobacco industry sponsorship, she can send a powerful message to children in Indonesia and around the world that they, too, should reject the tobacco industry's deadly products and marketing."
Actually if she rejects the sponsorship she will be sending a powerful message to children around the world that if you ever get bullied by another person or group, just give in to their demands and don't stick up for yourself.
I see no difference between these innumerable special interest groups and someone threatening you for your lunch money. Both are trying to take food out of your mouth. One just tries to give the impression that they are doing this for the good of others instead of their own selfish goals.
Who cares? People who want to smoke will and Kelly won't get paid if she drops the show. It's doubtful that she even knew a cigarette company was sponsoring the show. Blame management for that one.
Strange, the whole time I lived there, peeps didn't mind BUYING and SMOKING copious amounts of tobacco products. Guess there's a difference.
i believe kelly is doing this for her fans. the poor girl gets so much crap from everyone about so many different things, and she has said more than once that she loves her fans. i've been to alot of concerts, and i have never seen an artist connect with her fans the way that kelly does. the easy thing would be for her to drop the concert. she's stated that she has plenty of $$, and with a new album coming out along with another tour i'm sure she could afford to cancel if she wanted to.
people need to cut this girl some slack and take what she says at face value. besides, has she ever lied to us before? that's one thing you can count on; kelly's honesty.
Sort of like concerts sonsored by Beer labels? Again, political correctness run amok. If parents and their children are too stupid to recognize health dangers from cigarettes that's on them, not Kelly Clarkson. I applaud her and I will now buy those cigarettes even though I won't smoke them.
Bring back the Winston Cup and candy cigs! Before you know it, meat companies and Little Debbie will be banned from advertising too. We're going to hell in a hand basket. Anti-cig lawyers and foundations sure make a lot of money policing our habits.
Muslims use tobacco though. Anyone who has been to an Islamic country knows that cigarettes and hookahs are popular in that culture.
Oh Come On ALREADY!!!! I work with Muslims....and they all smoke!!!
Why don't they ban breathing to. I'm hoping for all religions to die, wether's it's Islam, Christianity or Judaism. They've got to go.
Apparently muslim fundamentalists hate American Idol as muc as I do.
It all about the money for these artists. Kelly could probably care less about cigerettes, she just want to get paid. I guess this going to cost her big time in the pocket to have her concert cancelled.
another clear case of Muslims telling people what they should do and don't I am so sick of Muslims, There religion sucks
Ok, is dropping the tour date REALLY her only option? Don't you think she has enough money on her own–and enough other potential sponsors–to stage the concert anyway, "for the fans," even if the profits aren't as great?
She needs to either drop the tobacco sponsorships or cancel the concert.
D@mn planet earth. Always makes things complicated or even worse, chaotic.
I think Jakarta had the right idea here but for all the wrong reasons..
Maybe I am just cynical, but I would have had a lot more respect for her if she just said "I am OK with kids smoking" or even "I don't care" or even "I want the money" but come on she is doing it because of the "fans".
Can't wait for her next show! Already got my tickets, so awesome! If anyone else is still looking, you gotta check this out: Kelly Clarkson Tickets
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