Most shocking Rock & Roll Hall of Fame snubs
 testing captions Clearly making it into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has very little to do with popularity. At tonight's ceremony, ABBA, Jimmy Cliff, Genesis, The Hollies and the Stooges will each receive their well deserved induction. This honor is given out annually to inductees selected by a voting committee from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Foundation. Artists are eligible to be inducted 25 years after their first recording is released. But what's more interesting is the growing list of artists and groups who get passed over each year, despite record sales, reputation in the industry and lobbying from fans around the world. Some of the higher profile musicians who have yet to make the cut include: KISS Who is the biggest miss on this list? Who else should the Hall of Fame be considering for next year? Discuss! |
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still cannot fathom that the biggest selling female artist of the seventies Linda Ronstadt is not inducted,,really ridiculous!
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Moody Blues,Chicago,Yes Rush, ELO. Hall is not representing the real rockers.
MC5 should have been in before they even would
have considered ABBA and Madonna, how are
they rockers?
This so-called "Rock and Roll Hall" of Fame is totally beneath contempt for its cluelessness. They've got rap and pap in there, but passed on too many greats like Rush and Jethro Tull. That they managed to induct some obviously worthy bands, such as Led Zeppelin, must be by sheer accident. (Even a blind HOF finds an acorn once in a while.) BTW, if we actually HAD a serious rock music hall of fame, I would also nominate Robert Plant for his outstanding body of solo work. He had the best musicians, several Platinum albums, and WAY too many memorable songs to mention here.
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Serge Gainsbourg should be inducted to the rock and roll hall of fame!
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Why not create another Rock n Roll Hall of Fame. We could call it: The TRRHA (True Rock and Roll Hall of Fame)
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STYX!!!
Blue Cheer. If any band can be credited with inventing and defining heavy metal, it is certainly Blue Cheer. They predated both Sabbath and Zeppelin.
Deep Purple, Whitesnake, Rainbow, Dio. THE BEST. fullstop
How about Three Dog Night, they had 3 # 1 Songs, the number 1 song of the year in 1971 with Joy To The World, Altogether they had 12 Top Ten hits, and for 5 years they sold more records and concerts tickets then any other band.
I see a lot of them had made the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame with a lot credentials then that, maybe they upset the wrong person or something.
If someone has something to reply to this, I would like to hear it, thanks everybody for giving their opinions.
BIg H
Grand Funk Railroad.
Grand Funk, Yes, ELP Deep Purple, Rush, Chicago, Jethro Tull, Boston, & Heart all should have been in long ago...I will never visit this place. I think too much politics & PC
, ...MHO
If Deep Purple does not have place in RnR H O F, then I m not interested who else is in... Simple as that!! I m not trying to offend anyones choice, but my opinion is that if thay trying to find musicians who defined rock and roll-then DEEP PURPLE is one of them... CHEERS!!!
yes, yes, YES !!!!
Anvil !!!!!
The Canadian Band !!!!
Well everyone also most said everything but eagles and kool and the gan
I can not help but look at the RRHF snubs list and think of Gene Simmons (KISS) comment of the RRHF as The Rock n Roll Hall of "Shame". Being a devote RUSH fan, I am obviously flabbergasted that they are not in the hall yet. Judging by the snubs list (YES, Alice Cooper, Journey, Judas Priest....), I am sure others are just as shocked about 'their' band not being in. Actually, I think there is more talent on the snubs list that there are in the hall of fame.
My hope is that when one of these groups (on the snubs list) are selected that they (the group) decline the offer–a great rock n roll 'middle finger' message.
Greg
Prog rock is severely underrepresented, of course, including American prog-rockers Kansas and especially Dream Theater. Is there any better combination than John Petrucci and Jordan Rudess as far as musicianship goes? After hearing the Eddie Trunk interview on Sirius/XM with the President and CEO of the RnRHOF Foundation, I can honestly say that I won't be going to Cleveland and contributing, monetarily, to their agenda. As for ABBA and others not being "Rock n Roll," I agree with many that rock is a very wide category, but the line should be drawn somewhere. Where that is, I can only speculate. As for other prog rock acts, YES is the glaring omission, along with Rush. Musical taste, like tastes in cinema or food, however, are so subjective, it's often meaningless to argue over these opinions.
Two stand out: Deep Purple, Dire Straits. Five reasons they should be in HOF
Deep Purple
#1.heavy metal pioneers
#2.In Rock - one of the three albums that created metal - others being Led Zep II and Black Sabbath's Paranoid
#3.practically invented heavy riffs
#4.Ritchie Blackmore - genius
#5.Smoke on the water - iconic rock song
Then theres Ian Paice – ones of rocks greatest dummers. Ian Gillan – incredible vocalist. For Madonna to be inducted into the ROCK hof ahead of hard/heavy ROCK pioneers is a facre
Dire Straits
#1.Mark Knopfler - wizard on guitar
#2.Brothers in Arms - one of the best rock albums ever
#3.Money for Nothing - #1 everywhere and an epic MTV song
#4.incredible live band – immensely talented musicians (Clapton adores them)
#5.unique stripped down sound - very rare
Both band's are long overdue. I've heard Rush mentioned a few times but i aint keen on the lead singers voice (their songs aint that popular).. nothing really STANDS OUT from the band. No iconic tunes, albums, performances. When you think of a band/solo artist, something should come to mind, and yet, with Rush, very little does. I can think of a few others who are also more deserving: Iron Maiden, KISS, Journey, Def Leppard - Pyromania single-handedly created pop-metal. Both Nirvana and Radiohead will soon be inducted (both are around the 25 year old mark to be eligible
A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME WITHOUT "JETHRO TULL" ? UNACCEPTABLE
ELP
Jethro Tull
Yes
boston
Rush
Kiss
Journey
chicago
the Cars
Foreigner
And the list goes on.....
but we have Run DMC,The furious five and Madonna..unbeleivable!!!!!!!!!(I like Run DmC but they had one rock song albeit transformed and brought rock and rap together)
You put Journey and Foreigner here.
Lame bands. Lame list.
.....KISS was just a costume act, their "music" a big noise without any real substance.....it's bands like the Moody Blues that get to me, rock doesn't get any more substantial than "Tuesday Afternoon" in my opinion and a lot of other rock lovers.....what adds salt to the wound is that acts like Run DMC made it, that's the real joke.....it's almost like it's all on purpose to garner attention to an otherwise lame, boring hall of fame attempt.....
The RnR hall of fame does not mean anything anymore. Being excluded means you are in an elite group without stupid Abba, euro cheese song winners but with brian eno I say no more. Peace
If you are talking about influential bands who affected many other musicians, then you cannot leave out The Small Faces, whose musical legacy still lives on. The five members of the band created some of the most original music and has long legs throughout rock and roll history. The names of those I am talking about can be easily discovered by looking at the history of the musicians,.
Rock and Roll Hall of LAME
Jimmy Buffett ! Why ? 30 plus albums, 40 plus years of non stop touring, and he, and the Coral Reefers have sold out show after show, year after year. Weather you like his music or not, he is an icon in the music business. There are very few artists that can sell 20,000 seats at a show, year after year.
Unfortunately, opinions can sometimes be considered like the beauty analogy, you know the one, "eye of the beholder"... but the facts are the facts when considering the likes of Foreigner, Journey and Kiss. The emotion brought out when you realize they aren't in the R & R Hall of Fame? OMG!!! When i was young, in the seventies, I didn't know and didn't really care about those bands. Now that I'm older and can see and hear the talent I realize they were all pure awesome. I recently went to see Foreigner, Journey and Night Ranger. I was amazed at the number of hits and equally the number of people singing them word for word. These bands have touched many lives in a way only real music can. I truly believe they don't make music like that anymore. I saw the 3 bands in Seattle on October 21, 2011. It was their 91st and last tour date. A fantastic night to remember. To the Hall of Fame controllers all I can say is if you don't have Foreigner you probably don't know what love is... if you don't have Journey forget the Separate Ways and Open Arms is the way.
This is exactly why they should be inducted like...i don't know, say...YESTERDAY!!! Take a few minutes and watch this. It will blow your mind. It's in Germany in 2010. They're still selling out in many countries around the planet...and, for all of you doubters & critics of their music...it's obvious that you haven't listened to them in a while. CHECK THIS OUT:
DEEP PURPLE: http://www.rateitall.com/RateAndReview.aspx?ItemID=65052
How can a band with 21 Top 10 singles, 5 consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles and 5 Gold singles, 25 of their 32 albums have gone platinum, and a grammy. BTW they have 47 gold and platinum awards. That is Chicago!
Rock's 1970s and 1980s Queens of Rock are not inducted. IIt's 2011 and Linda Ronstadt, Pat Benatar, Stevie Nicks are still not in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame. I don't get it...
Let's see, Linda Ronstadt – hands down Queen of 1970s Rock, and not just a "pop' or country star, but also a true rocker in much of her music, is not in the Rock 'n Roll Hall of Fame in 2011.
And let's not forget that Stevie Nicks (solo), Heart and Pat Benatar are not inductees, either.
What gives? I don't get it.
Listen to 25 or 6 to 4, or Dialogue and you realize how talented and innovative Chicago was. They also played incredibly tight concerts–tough to do with all the moving parts. It's a travesty that they're not in.
LATE '60'S EARLY 70's R&B / SOUL has been completely IGNORED.Where are the inductions for THE MANHATTANS, GENE CHANDLER, BARRY WHITE, LOU RAWLS, MARY WELLS, THE MARVELETTES, THE MIRACLES, THE CHI-LITES, HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES, THE COMMODORES, THE DELFONICS,THE STYLISTICS, THE DRAMATICS,THE SPINNERS, THE MAIN INGREDIENT,and DIONNE WARWICK ??
What about more current artists? People pouring their heart out on stage today? http://chicagogroupie.com
Um, hello?
No.1 artist to be inducted immediately – 1970s Queen of Rock, Linda Ronstadt
(disgraceful that she wasn't inducted years ago)
Nos. 2 & 3, Stevie Nicks & Pat Benatar -1980s Queens of Rock
No. 4, Heart – Ann & Nancy Wilson
Doesn't Rolling Stone like female rockers?
Tell me I'm not the only one that thinks The B-52's should be in that list!
I have no problem with rap and hip hop in the HOF but when bands like Deep Purple and Rush are snubbed it becomes a problem. People like Grand Master Flash have done some truly innovative things but if anyone from any genre can be inducted then it's time we change the name of the Hall of Fame
The groups that blow my mind that are not in are Journey, Foreigner, Dire Straits, and Supertramp.
The Guess Who should be in. "American Woman", "No Sugar", "These Eyes", "Share the Land", "Undun" among many other hits. They played a variety of styles well.
Rush, KISS, Thin Lizzy, Iron Maiden, JUDAS PRIEST. Plus it took Sabbath 10 years on the ballot. It took Van Halen like 5. KISS was on the ballot for one year and gets booted for ABBA. BS!!
The DIO band of RONNIE JAMES DIO (RIP)
Styx, Chicago, REO Speedwagon, KISS, Cheap Trick, Yes, wait, did I say Styx yet ??!!
Todd Rundgren – A guy who, at 63, is still ahead of the Rock and Roll curve. He'll end up an eternal snub because he's a non-conformist and has been critical of the status quo of the recording industry.
DEEP PURPLE, JUDAS PRIEST, IRON MAIDEN, MOTORHEAD, MEGADETH, RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS, SOUND GARDEN, PEARL JAM, NWA, ERIK B & RAKIM.. new kids on the block and milli vanilli too.. LOL
judas priest
iron maiden
megadeth
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Boston
rage against the machine
guns n roses
How can they leave out MOUNTIAN!!!!!!!What a crime.
Sorry....messed up in my haste....MOUNTAIN.
If YES gets inducted I hope they snub the HOF and say they will not accept. They're too good to be amongst many of the bands that are there!
It's a building in Cleveland who cares. We carry the music in our hearts.
Why aren't RUSH , the CARS, Yes, Forienger, Styx, Journey , Blue Oyster Cult, Grand Funk Railroad, Bachman Turner Overdrive, Chicago, ELO KISS, and Motley Crue in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame. Who should be first? The list gets bigger every year and becoming ridiculous. Put your votes in now guys. Make your voice get heard. This year i voted for the CARS cause I m a huge fan.
Steve
Deep Purple are easily the most glaring omission. They have sold more records than most anybody else listed here, are still recording and touring (and selling out large venues), were responsible for THE rock guitar riff that every kid plays when first trying out a guitar in a music shop, and were pioneers in the field of rock/classical fusion. Until they are inducted, the hall is a joke.
Rush, Chicago, Moody Blues, ELO, Alice Cooper, Kiss, the list goes on. Whether or not you're a fan of these artists, what they produced was/is rock and roll. How can ABBA be there? The process is flawed beyond repair. The inductees are chosen by a few people? What people? Not the majority!
I can not believe that groups such as Rush, Chicago, Yes, Hall and Oates and the most deserving of them all.....Jeff Lynne and ELO are not in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame!! What a disgrace!!! Who votes on this stuff!!! PLEASE!!!
Yes is at the top of the list - they transformed rock, and inspired groups like Styx and Rush (at least one of them is in the RRHOF). During that same era, Emerson Lake & Palmer were filling stadiums for concerts, and was a 3 man supergroup of their time. I truly believe that the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame board have a cynically biased hate against those two groups, and similar ones (Moody Blues, ELO, Procol Harum), even though they are rock history milestones.
The Rock and Roll HOF biggest snubs are Rush, Chicago, Heart, Kiss and Stevie Ray Vaughn.
moody blues, yes, grass roots, guess who, tommy james, johnny rivers, three dog night, rush, chicago etc. should all be shoe ins but what do they know
monkees is bubblegum pop so quit saying they should be inducted!!!!
Between Kiss and Rush record sales are at about 200 million to date. I think the fans have spoken. RRHOF IS A JOKE
Jethro Tull! Jethro Tull! Jethro Tull! Without a doubt! One of the greatest bands of all time.
Give the pioneers what they desrve! People please...although you all have great arguments for who should be in the HOF rock and roll didn't start in the 1970's rock arenas or in the 1980's MTV age. Give the pioneers their due! Start over from the beginning!
Moody Blues were the pioneers of progressive rock with rock classics like Tuesdy Afternoon, Question, Ride My See-Saw, I'm Just A Singer in a Rock n Roll band and Nights in White Satin - and they are still major performers after 40+ years since their classic albumn 'Days of Future Passed'. To leave them out of the r 'n' r hall of fame is a joke.
It's had to imagine that someone with one hit record such as Del Shannon is in the Rock Hall of Fame and pioneers such as Pat Boone, Connie Francis, Paul Anka and Paul Revere & The Raiders are snubbed year after year. Talk about the Hall's credibility!
Chicago gets in before so many of these bands. When Jimi Hendrix brought them on tour in their earlier years, he would jam with them all the time, and one time pulled aside one of Chicago's horn players and told him that Terry Kath was possibly the best guitarist he'd ever heard. Guitar isn't even that big a part of most great Chicago songs.
Yes, the fact that ABBA and Madonna have made it into the Rock n Roll HOF sooner than Jethro Tull, Yes, Rush, KISS and others makes one question the HOF's credibility.
1st Monkee's don't think about the show because remember the Beatles made quirky movies as well look at the body of work, 2nd R.E.O., 3rd Bee Bop Deluxe [Not familiar with them check them out] 4th Babe Ruth, and 5th Supertramp [Just listen to Even in the Quietest Moments], enough said and finally I agree Chicago, ELP, Rush, and Yes!!!
How do the Clash get in but not the moody blues. Chigago was a goood band wiTH terry kath.
To those who say "just because YOU haven't heard of it, doesn't mean it sucks", let me turn the table: just because YOU are one of 6 people who knows who someone is, doesn't make them deserving of a spot in the HOF just because they're "groundbreaking" or whatever.
In alphabetical order: Alice Cooper, Bad Company, Blue Oyster Cult, Boston, Credence Clearwater Revival, Deep Purple, The Doobie Brothers, Edgar Winter (and Johnny), ELO, Foghat, Foreigner, Grand Funk Railroad, J. Geils Band, Jethro Tull, Joan Jett, Joe Walsh (as a solo artist), Journey, Kiss, Peter Frampton, Peter Gabriel (as a solo artist), Phil Collins (as a solo artist), Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rush, The Scorpions, Spencer Davis Group, Steely Dan, Steppenwolf, Steve Miller Band, Styx, Supertramp, T. Rex, and Yes. I know I'm still missing some. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke and I refuse to go on principle. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame stands for everything Rock and Roll stands against.
You left off Thin Lizzy but your list was solid. I am a Tom Waits fan but I dont think he is RR HOF material. Great in his own right but too cool and trendy for this list.
I just choked on my tongue – NO ALICE COOPER OR DEEP PURPLE?? I originally started reading the blog to find out if others were as bothered by the RUSH ommission as I; but it appears that many other "worthy and deserving" groups have also been "snubbed"......KISS and JOURNEY are notably absent but I could do without Bon Jovi. "Livin on a Prayer" is CRAP next to "The Spirit of Radio". WHAT A COMPLETE AND UTTER JOKE!!!!!
Todd Rundgren is a noticeable HOF void in light of his individual creativity, industry innovation and the staggering collection of artists he's produced.
Rush, Heart, Deep Purple, Bad Company, Grand Funk Railroad ... and let's make sure the true rockers get in before all this 80s New Wave synthi-stuff even gets considered.
BACHMAN-TURNER OVERDRIVE!!!!
Others who got left out are the Doobies. Populare yet innovative songs and tight music with good harmonies. L. Ronstadt, who has the best pipes in R and R except for Aretha. Procol Harem, who was probably the first "art" band. Very innovative. Moody Blues were one of the first bands to work with a whole orchestra.
YES!!! I live in Philadelphia and went to city hall to meet the band and celebrate the day the city declared August 26th as Yes Day! Yes has sold out more concerts in Philly than any other band. And they're not in??? What a joke!
There are a bunch of big names that have not been inducted yet although they should have, my list would be:
Depeche Mode
The Cure
The Smiths
INXS
Def Leppard
Bon Jovi
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
The Cars
Don Henley
Rush
Heart
Foreigner
Chicago
Boston
Journey
Joy Division
New Order
Men at Work
Duran Duran
Kiss
Violent Femmes
Tears For Fears
Motley Crue
Bryan Adams
The Cult
Dire Straits
Crowded House
Billy Idol
Eurythmics
Poison
Midnight Oil
10,000 Maniacs
Echo & the Bunnymen
Suzanne Vega
Pet Shop Boys
Erasure
A-Ha
Sonic Youth
Iron Maiden
Toto
Howard Jones
OMD
Next year they should also consider the following bands and performers that will become eligible:
Guns n' Roses
George Michael
Pixies
i told you i have a bad memory aniway i hopre for Gun's and Roses and he s not really a rocker but big band and i love big band but Frank Sanatra
Journey,Foreigner,Boston,Heart,Rush,Pantera,Iron maiden,Chicago,Styx,KISS,E.L.O,Hall and Oates,The Cure,Cher,King Crimson,and the rock and roll hall of fame is not for rock and I really love Funk and disco so i hope for : Kool and the Gang i must of forgot some really good ones i dont have a good memory so forgve me
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Iron Maiden???? come on
DEEP PURPLE in Rock & Roll hall of Fame
The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame is a joke. Look for example at the fact The Cure has never been nominated. They have influenced entire genres of rock and have had top 40 songs and sold out arenas across America without any mainstream radio airplay, serious MTV exposure and just two top ten songs. They have fans as diverse as David Bowie, Counting Crows and My Chemical Romance. Without The Cure the RNRHOF is empty. F*** the RNRHOF!
To Vince
The difference between the replacement singers in Journey (Steve Augeri for Steve Perry) and Styx (Lawrence Gowan for Dennis DeYoung)and the replacement singer in Chicago (Jason Scheff for Peter Cetera), is that the replacement singers in Journey and Styx arrived very, very, very late into the game, the late 1990s and early 2000s to be exact and they never had any hits with those singers played on the radio. Augeri and Gowan will not be inducted, and they shouldn't be inducted.
Jason Scheff on the other hand has been with Chicago since 1985 (25 years) and he has written 19 songs for the band's last 7 studio albums and there is more to come. Jason Scheff sang lead on two Top 5 Chicago hits: Will You Still Love Me? (1986) and What Kind Of Man Would I Be? (1989). Songs that are still heavily played on radio. It would look very odd if the replacement for Peter Cetera was not inducted into the Rock Hall with the rest of Chicago. He's a big part of the story.
The appropriate comparison would be Jason Scheff to Sammy Hagar. Sammy Hagar replaced David Lee Roth in Van Halen in 1985, the same year that Jason Scheff replaced Peter Cetera in Chicago. Sammy Hagar was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with Van Halen. Jason Scheff will be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame with Chicago.
The Rock Hall inducted 12 members of The Grateful Dead and 16 members of Parliament-Funkadelic. I'm pretty sure they can handle 10 or 12 members of Chicago.
Heart...Cheap Trick...Gram Parsons...Todd Rundgren
and
Joe Jackson
Todd – RUSH – Cat Stevens – Hall & Oates – Chicago – YES – Moody Blues – Monkees – Doobie Bros – Heart – STYX – Journey – Emerson, Lake, & Palmer – Electric Light Orchestra – Peter Frampton – Joe Walsh (as a solo artist). These fact none of these artists have been inducted is EMBARRASSING. I can understand (trying to be objective) why they might struggle with Chicago, Yes, Journey, and the Doobies – WHICH members get inducted? For example, the current members of Chicago haven't contributed much beyond be "replacements", but are considered "official" members. Past Chicago member Bill Champlin certainly deserves to be inducted, because he brought something original to the band. But does Jason Scheff, Peter Cetera's replacement? He sang on a couple minor hits, and did nothing to innovate.
And "Yes"? Which members get to be inducted? Trevor Horn certainly deserves to be in the Hall, but not as a performer, and certainly not as a member of Yes. Trevor Rabin, on the other hand, might qualify – but he was really only involved with one successful album, 90125. The other three albums he was involved with were all flops. Patrick Moraz? While extremely influential and innovative, he was only there for 1 album.
The Doobie Brothers. Same thing – replacements who really had no impact on music, but served to keep the band working.
Journey. GASP. Since their reformation sans Steve Perry, they've had no less than THREE soundalikes. Do they deserve to be inducted? HELL NO! Jon Cain certainly does, as well as Gregg Rolie. But what about Ansley Dunbar, one of the most influential English drummers of his era? He was there for early Journey and was still in the band for Steve Perry's 1st album, which is precisely the reason he quit! Yet Steve Smith helped redefine rock drumming and is one of the best players of all time – and was the guy who played on most of the hits.
STYX. Same stuff. Lawrence Gowan is in Styx as the replacement for Dennis DeYoung. He's was well-known in Canada before he took the gig. But does he deserve to be inducted with the band? Does drummer Todd Sucherman? Ricky Phillips? Glen Burtnik? Also, don't forget Tommy Shaw was a replacement for John Curulewski, who contributed important work to early Styx material.
I'm rambling to illustrate a possibility nobody considers with certain bands. They force the Hall into picking a choosing. For example, when you look at the names of all the Temptations inducted into the Hall, it borders on ridiculous. Meanwhile, Ray Tabano, Rick Dufay, and Jimmy Crespo were left out of the Aerosmith induction, yet Bernie Leadon and Randy Meisner we allowed to be inducted with the Eagles – even though they also allowed Walsh and Timothy B. Schmit to be inducted as well. OK, in the case of the Eagles, all past and present members deserved the distinction, but WHO MAKES THOSE DECISIONS?
As you can see, there's far more than just "picking the wrong artists" that makes the R&R Hall of Fame complete bllsht.
THE CARS should definitely be in there RUSH without a doubt, and so should Heart, actually all the bands listed above should probably be, considering some of the people /bands in there already...also i think the Pixies should be in there, but that will never happen
Linda Ronstadt is the worst omission of all.
Chicago.....first 5 Lps were incredible
Moody Blues......no question
Yes & Doobie Brothers ?
The Monkees......4 years as the top musical act in the country
The day the RRHOF inducted Madonna and ABBA was the day I stopped believing in the prestige of the HOF. If they hadn't done so, I'd have two words to say relevant to this discussion: Induct Rush.
Oh, I forgot to include Michael Jackson in my first sentence.
The RRHOF truly is a joke.
Steve Perry, King of the power ballad and one of the all-time greatest rock vocalist
Steve Perry, King of the power ballad heaven and vocal legend
RRHOF is not even remotely credible. They are neither a good judge of music nor influence. They occasionally get it right because something or someone may be obvious. By and large, they are a political putz of an organization that doesn't do justice to rock&roll or any other type of music. Most musicians that I know including myself don't even pay attention for more than 5 minutes per year anymore. Most musicians are simply tired of the frustration and frankly, being a member of the hall is becoming more of a tarnish than an honor. Note to RRHOF – get relevant or shut the thing down.
rush NEEDS to be in the R&RHOF!!!!!!
THE TOP 5 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL TIME ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AND THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART:
01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago
05. The Bee Gees
INDUCT CHICAGO ALREADY!
Singer-Songwriter and Pianist Elton John and his songwriting partner, Lyricist Bernie Taupin, were both inducted into the Songwriters Hall of Fame in 1992, but only Elton John was inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame in 1994. This does not make any sense whatsoever. If there had not been a Bernie Taupin, there would not have been an Elton John and vice versa. Their music was a collaborative effort. Bernie Taupin should have been inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame back in 1994 as a Lyricist in the Non-Performers category, the same year that Elton John was inducted in the performers category.
Bernie Taupin didn’t just write lyrics exclusively for Elton John. Bernie Taupin also wrote the lyrics for songs recorded by Ringo Starr, Rod Stewart, Kiki Dee, Cher, Alice Cooper, Robert Palmer, Melissa Manchester, Rick Derringer, The Hudson Brothers, Olivia Newton John, The Motels, Starship, Heart, Animotion, Stray Cats, John Waite, Martin Page, Peter Cetera, Bryan Ferry, Tammy Wynette, Little Richard, Marianne Faithful, Courtney Love, John Anderson, Willie Nelson, Teddy Thompson, Emmylou Harris, Lee Ann Womack, Toby Keith, Brian Wilson, and Leon Russell, as well as for his own singing career, both as a solo artist and as a member of his own late-1990s Country-Western band, The Farm Dogs.
Bernie Taupin’s biggest success outside from his work with Elton John was the 1978 album, From the Inside by Alice Cooper, which included ten songs with lyrics by Bernie Taupin and music by Alice Cooper, Dick Wagner, Steve Lukather, Bruce Roberts and David Foster. From the Inside spawned the Top 20 hit, How You Gonna See Me Now. In 1985, Bernie Taupin wrote the lyrics to two songs that would go on to hit number one on the Billboard 100 Singles Chart: We Built This City by Starship, and These Dreams by Heart, both with music written by Martin Page. Earlier on in 1974, Ringo Starr scored a Top 5 hit with Snookeroo, a song written for him by Bernie Taupin and Elton John.
Bernie Taupin and Elton John comprise one of the longest running and most successful songwriting teams of all time. Bernie Taupin’s 40 years of collaborative work with Elton John alone should qualify him for the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame. Please induct Lyricist Bernie Taupin into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame in the Non-Performers category. His induction is long overdue.
A CHICAGO CONSPIRACY THEORY
FIRST, BARACK OBAMA, A BLACK CHICAGO POLITICIAN FROM HAWAII, BORN IN 1961, IS ELECTED PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IN 2008. THEN WITH THE HELP OF BARACK OBAMA, THE CITY OF CHICAGO GOT IN THE BIDDING FOR HOSTING THE 2016 OLYMPICS AND THEY LOST. THEN IN 2010 THE NATIONAL HOCKEY LEAGUE’S CHICAGO BLACKHAWKS WIN THEIR FOURTH STANLEY CUP IN FRANCHISE HISTORY, BUT THEIR FIRST SINCE 1961, THE YEAR OF BARACK OBAMA’S BIRTH. THEN PETER CETERA GAVE THE SONGWRITERS HALL OF FAME INDUCTION SPEECH FOR DAVID FOSTER IN 2010. THEN CHICAGO THE BAND IS INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME SOMETIME DURING BARACK OBAMA’S EIGHT YEARS/TWO TERMS AS PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (2008-2017).
BARACK OBAMA IS BLACK AND HE IS FROM CHICAGO. THE CHICAGO NHL TEAM IS CALLED THE BLACKHAWKS. CHICAGO THE BAND PLAYS THE MUSIC OF BLACK PEOPLE.
IN 2010, DUSTIN BYFUGLIEN (PRONOUNCED BUFFLIN) BECAME THE FIRST BLACK GOAL SCORER AND FIRST AFRICAN AMERICAN IN NHL HISTORY TO WIN THE STANLEY CUP AND HE DID IT DURING A BARACK OBAMA PRESIDENCY. GRANT FUHR WAS THE FIRST BLACK GOALTENDER AND FIRST BLACK HOCKEY PLAYER PERIOD TO WIN THE STANLEY CUP AND HE DID IT FIVE TIMES WITH THE EDMONTON OILERS BETWEEN 1984 AND 1990, BUT GRANT FUHR WAS CANADIAN. WAYNE GRETZKY, WHO WAS GRANT FUHR’S TEAMMATE ON THE EDMONTON OILERS, WAS BORN IN 1961, THE SAME YEAR AS BARACK OBAMA, AND WHEN WAYNE GRETZKY RETIRED IN 1999 HE HELD 61 NHL RECORDS. JOHN F. KENNEDY WAS ASSASSINATED IN 1963. WAYNE GRETZKY WORE THE NUMBER 99 ON HIS JERSEY. WHEN WAYNE GRETZKY RETIRED IN 1999 HE HAD 1,963 CAREER ASSISTS IN REGULAR SEASON NHL PLAY. JOHN F. KENNEDY JR. DIED IN A PLANE CRASH IN 1999, THE SAME YEAR THAT WAYNE GRETZKY RETIRED WITH 1,963 CAREER ASSISTS IN REGULAR SEASON NHL PLAY, THE SAME NUMBER AS THE YEAR OF JOHN F. KENNEDY’S ASSASSINATION. JOHN F. KENNEDY JR. DIED ON JULY 16, 1999, ONE DAY BEFORE THE ELEVEN YEAR WEDDING ANNIVERSARY OF WAYNE GRETZKY AND JANET JONES.
The Chicago Blackhawks have won the Stanley Cup during a Barack Obama presidency, and now Chicago the band will be inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame sometime between 2011 and 2017!!
Roy, Styx are from Chicago too. They've also been horribly overlooked.
THE TOP 4 CHARTING ROCK AND ROLL BANDS OF ALL TIME ON THE BILLBOARD 200 ALBUMS CHART AND THE BILLBOARD 100 SINGLES CHART:
01. The Beatles
02. The Rolling Stones
03. The Beach Boys
04. Chicago
INDUCT CHICAGO ALREADY!
Rush. There is NO basis for not inducting those guys!
They can play like no one's business, they have MANY significant songs, they are in third place for most consecutive gold or platinum albums (behind THE BEATLES and THE ROLLING STONES!), and unlike almost all of the others from their time, they are still relevant today. They're no nostalgia act. But no, keep inducting acts like ABBA and Madonna. I think it would stain Rush's legacy to be in that pile.
THE PIXIES
Duran Duran
I will have nothing to do with the HOF until 3 bands get in: RUSH, YES, KISS and as a honorable mention, KANSAS. This place is a joke.
Quite fitting they put that place in Cleveland... The HOF is a "Mistake by the Lake"
PAT BENETAR
BON JOVI SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN IN THERE!
JOAN JETT
HEART
RUSH
The Monkees should have been inducted years ago.
Rush AND Pat Benatar need to be inducted. And how about the B-52's?
New York Dolls
KISS
The Zombies
Deep Purple
Jethro Tull
Alice Cooper Band
Rush
Dick Dale
Phil Ochs
Gordon Lightfoot
Todd Rundgren
RUSH! that is a friggin' no brainer. 40 years!! WOOOT!!!
Now,this is really getting old.Rush is a legendary band that has legions of immitators.They are amazing to listen too and critique.Who are the obviously deaf and dumb low-life music fans deciding on the crap nominees this year?
Dire Straits
KISS
Roger Waters
Screaming Jay Hawkins **** This guy came before Alice Cooper, Ozzy Osbourne, and was great" I put a Spell on You!
X.
If you have no idea who The Stooges are then dont bash them! They are rock n roll if there ever was! Psychedelic Garage Rock with 100% raw energy! Iggy Pop at his best!
C'mon Al Green is in???? I agree Neil Diamond is more rock-oriented than most of the jazz/soul/r&b people in the hall. Solitary Man is a classic rock song. And the Cure was an icon for years – and I have to admit Benatar deserves it too. Think of all the iconic rock songs that are NOT represented: Smoke on the Water, Barracuda, Roundabout, Tom Sawyer, Aqualung, Dust in the Wind, Lucky Man – I could go on and on... all of those classics need to be there for it to be a real ROCK Hall of Fame – not a jazz/r&b/soul hall of fame!!!
Its obvious that the voters for the Hall has a serious bias against core Prog-Rock: Yes, ELP, Kansas, Tull, even Rush has serious Prog-Rock aspects... and Rolling Stone has always blown off those guys, so I guess that plays a part.
I guess the committee needs a comparison as to what it means to not having Rush in the Hall. So here it goes, It would be the same as not having Babe Ruth, Hank Aaron, and Nolan Ryan not in the Baseball HOF.
I would love to see Dire Straits....they only helped launch MTV and ushered in the beginning stages of multi media...
I get how some don't like Rush's sound, but Rush are the biggest omission –anyone out there that doesn't like Rush, just look at the numbers on them. They are behind only the Beetles and Stones in most consecutive gold/platinum albums ever? Not to mention just about everyone from classic rock, to atl-rock, to punk, to heavy metal cites them as a major influence. They are already in Canada's RR Hall of Fame and just got a block on the walk of fame. I do however think it would be quite appropriate that they go in in 2012 instead of 2112.
They have been cited as an influence by various musical artists, including Metallica,[1] Primus,[2] and The Smashing Pumpkins[2] as well as progressive metal bands such as Dream Theater,[1] and Symphony X.[3]
After Rush, how do you not have Yes, Kiss (I hate Kiss), Moody Blues, Chicago and Neil Diamond in.
Depeche Mode, The Cure, Rush, KISS (not even a fan of their music), Red Hot Chili's, Bon Jovi (also not a fan), but ALL by far deserve this. in order:
Depeche Mode
Rush
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Bon Jovi
KISS
The Cure
the list is a lot longer, these are just the complete obvious – who runs this sham?!!!
THE ACCOLADES SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES
Geddy Lee:
Major Bass Influence for: Cliff Burton, Les Claypool, Jason Newstead, Rex Brown, Steve Harris, Dave Ferrell, Robbie Merrill, and the list goes on.
*** Most people who idolize Geddy Lee would argue there is no better, more versatile bass player alive.
Bass Hall of Fame – Guitar Player magazine
6 time winner: "Best Rock Bass" – Guitar Player magazine
1993 – "Best Rock Bass Player" Bass Player readers' poll
1994 – With Rush, inducted into the Juno Hall of Fame
Best Album for Bass (Snakes & Arrows) – Bass Player magazine
"Coolest Bass Line in a Song" (for "Malignant Narcissism") – Bass Player magazine
"Best 2007 Cover Feature" for "Northern Warrior" – Bass Player magazine
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Alex Lifeson:
Major Lead Guitar Influence for: Kirk Hammett, Richie Sambora, Synyster Gates, Dimebag Darrell, Slash, John Petrucci, and many, many more.
*** Alex Lifeson's command and presence on lead guitar changed the way rock and roll looked at lead guitarists forever.
"Best Rock Talent" by Guitar for the Practicing Musician in 1983
"Best Rock Guitarist" by Guitar Player Magazine in 1984 and May 2008
Runner-up for "Best Rock Guitarist" in Guitar Player in 1982, 1983, 1985, 1986
Inducted into the Guitar for the Practicing Musician Hall of Fame, 1991
"Best Article" for "Different Strings" in Guitar Player (September issue).
Most Ferociously Brilliant Guitar Album (Snakes & Arrows) – Guitar Player Magazine, May 2008
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Neil Peart:
Major Drum Influence for:
Vinnie Paul, Jimmy "The Rev" Sullivan, Joey Jordison, Travis Barker, Danny Carey, Mike Portnoy, John Dolmayan, and SO many more.
*** Neil Peart is widely considered and rarely argued to be the best drummer on the planet. ***
Modern Drummer Magazine Reader's Polls:
Hall of Fame: 1983
Best Rock Drummer*: 1980, 1981, 1982, 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986, 2006, 2008
Best Multi-Percussionist*: 1983, 1984, 1985, 1986
Best Percussion Instrumentalist: 1982
Most Promising New Drummer: 1980
Best All Around: 1986
1986 Honor Roll: Rock Drummer, Multi-Percussion
Best Instructional Video: 2006, for Anatomy of A Drum Solo
Best Drum Recording of the 1980s, 2007, for "YYZ" from Exit...Stage Left
Best Recorded Performance:
1980: Permanent Waves
1981: Moving Pictures
1982: Exit...Stage Left
1983: Signals
1985: Grace Under Pressure
1986: Power Windows
1988: Hold Your Fire
1989: A Show of Hands
1990: Presto
1992: Roll the Bones
1993: Counterparts
1997: Test for Echo
1999: Different Stages
2002: Vapor Trails
2004: R30
2007: Snakes & Arrows
DRUM! Magazine '07:
Drummer of the Year
Best Progressive Rock Drummer
Best Live Performer
Best DVD (Anatomy Of A Drum Solo)
Best Drumming Album (Snakes & Arrows)
DRUM! Magazine '08:
Drummer of the Year
Best Progressive Rock Drummer (Runner-Up)
Best Mainstream Pop Drummer (Runner-Up)
Best Live Drumming Performer
DRUM! Magazine '09:
Drummer Of The Year
Best Progressive Rock Drummer
DRUM! Magazine '10:
Drummer of the Year
Best Live Performer (Runner-Up)
Best Progressive Rock Drummer (Runner-Up)
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With 24 Gold albums, 14 Platinum albums, 4 Multi-Platinum albums, 40 years of experience and influence, and a track record for setting 'firsts' in the world of rock and roll, Rush should undoubtedly and unarguably be at the very tip-top of this list.
I have written the RRHOF and told them I refuse to patronize their establishment until Rush is inducted and the RRHOF issues a public apology to Rush for inducting Run DMC, Grandmaster Flash, Michael Jackson and Madonna before them. I further encourage each and every person who comes across this article to do the same.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke.
All I can say is .....AMEN !
"And please don't use Chicago and KISS in the same sentence, please."
You are right! Chicago is about ten thousand times better than KISS.
How is Steve Miller still not in?
I think Rush should be there but the Crue too and should have been before Metallica Motley Crue started at the beginning of the hair band era have you read the dirt aside from that they did inspire a ton of bands ?? What more can you ask for in a Rock band.All I have to say is they better not inducting bands like Poison before the Crue because that will be a sad day
Guess Who, BTO, Randy Bachman
Next year's list should be:
KISS
Rush
The Cars
Jethro Tull
Alice Cooper
The Moody Blues, Jethro Tull and Yes. Three groups that have been unfairly snubbed by the Hall of Fame. It's impossible for me to take the Hall seriously, considering their obvious disdain for Progressive Rock. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke.
Well obviously the Moody Blues have to be considered because they have provided wonderful and powerful music over the years and should have already been inducted several years ago!!
get the cars in people!!!!
YES (the band), BAD COMPANY & DEEP PURPLE should have already been inducted into the Hall of Fame. Letting people like Michael Jackson in, who wasn't even Rock, and not those 3 artists is true shame. My favorite bands that have been allowed in, Queen, they were snubbed for 3 years, should have been a 1st balloter in 1998 got in in 2001, Black Sabbath was snubbed for 11 years, should have been put in in 1995 or 1996 & AC/DC who got in after being snubbed for 3 years like Queen, should have went in in 1999, got the call in 2002...But not letting YES in, is a crime, it's like saying Michaelangelo & DaVinci don't deserve to be in the Art Hall of Fame because they were too GREAT?!?!? PUT YES IN...YES, DEEP PURPLE & BAD CO.!!!
Rush. "Rush has 22 consecutive gold records, and is fourth behind The Beatles, The Stones, and Kiss in all-time gold record acquisitions for a band. Fourteen of those albums have gone platinum". Get them in already!
RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the spinners, johnnie taylor, jerry butler
Def Leppard....its rediculas how long the best groups have to wait...and you talk about reputation and popularity, you talk about reccord sales...evidently as mentioned above this means nothing . Especially to a group thats sold over 65 Million ....had tremendous trials and tribualations and through it all stayed together and went on to produce not one... but two back to back diamond award reccords Pyromania and Hysteria... no offense to Bon Jovi (as i am a big fan of him as well) but hes on your top missed notables... has he done this...matter or fact... has anyone on that list done this... no...not only does leps music live and new music is being made on and theyve been a huge influence but the 2nd gen is catching on ...ticket sales are up, now to talk about influencial they were one of the first of the brisish invasion.. dominated the charts with there own unique sound, listen to pryo its completely unique, groups have been copying Def Lep for years... anyway just wanted to put my say in this.
Dire Straits/Mark Knopfler. His time has GOT to come. Probably one of the best four or five guitarists ever...
it seems so simple
grand funk railroad
three dog night
america
ry cooder
guess who
frampton
and for the love of god uriah heep should be there before the pretenders
rush should 100% be in here,
they are one of the most tallented rock musicians
I know its only a dream ....
But wouldn't it be cool to see this line up get in next year???
Kiss
Alice Cooper
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Rush
Rush, hands down. But what do you expect? The so-called Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke.
KISS is a no brainer and deserves to be in. They have been a huge influence on many music artists (not just rock), the live rock show, and rock merchandising. Plus they have great songs and have sold millions of albums. They were the biggest band on earth from about 76-78, and when they reunited in 96, they had the biggest tour that year. They are a huge part of American pop culture. I can go on and on. Others who should be in:
Chicago
Rush
Heart
Alice Cooper
Journey
Boston
Deep Purple
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Bon Jovi
Personally I think the RRHOF keeps out these greats in part to keep fans like us talking about this. If everyone's favorites were in, end of discussion!
If bands like Rush, Yes, Emerson, Lake & Palmer aren't in, I'm not going.
THE CURE – The most deserving omission.
THE SMITHS – Second most deserving omission.
MORRISSEY – Not eligible yet, but has earned a first ballot induction.
BOSTON!! RUSH. Largest debut album of all time and basically created pop-rock. Scholz created a new sound and others such as Def Leppard followed.
Yes made groups like Rush possible, with their ground-breaking AM-radio hit progessive rock song "Roundabout". Yes had the FIRST truly progressive rock song with 1968's "Harold Land", which included non 4/4 measures, symphonic blend with rock, bass-drum kick sync'd with bass guitar, and many other ground-breaking basic elements of prog. Moody Blues had a few prog elements in their earlier music, but never veered from 4/4 early on. Same deal with early Genesis – I consider Moodies Art Rock, not Prog. Genesis gradually evolved from Art rock to Prog. Jethro Tull was originally a jazz band when Yes fronted for them. Yes stole the show from them, and shortly after, Tull changed their style to prog with a medieval spin. The Beatles were not prog, but had a few songs with prog elements. Same deal with the Beach Boys. Yes was the first band to "put Prog together" as a genre, and for that reason they belong in.
Rush should have been inducted their first or second year of eligibility. They remain the most glaring omission and are so deserving it really is disturbing when you see some of others that entered the "hall" before them:
Blondie is in the HOF. Not Rock and Roll. Two hit songs i can think of. Complete joke.
R.E.M. is in the HOF. Pop not Rock. No MTV, no career. Overrated.
Michael Jackson is in the HOF. Not Rock and Roll. MTV and his moonwalk made him a star but he was incredibly talented no doubt.
Madonna is in the HOF. Not remotely close to Rock and Roll. Again... without MTV she would have never gotten this far.
Bob Marley is in the HOF. Not Rock and Roll, but I love his music and he was incredibly influencial.
ZZ Top is on the HOF. Early stuff was decent but lets be frank here... no Legs or Sharp Dressed Man and they disappear. MTV elevated them to a place they really didn't deserve imo.
Bonnie Raitt is in the HOF. Not Rock and Roll. Lovely voice but an inductee.. seriously?
Jann Wenner is in the HOF. In the Lifetime Achievement Category. LOL. People like him don't seem to realize (or forget) that without, oh I dunno, ACTUAL MUSICIANS, he would never have launched Rolling Stone Magazine, had no career and no influence. It is such BS.
The RRHOF is about politics, attendance figures and who fits in well with the same year inductees it would seem. There is nothing fair about being selected. The people who do vote are considered "music industry experts" which is also hilarious. Rolling Stone Magazine has several longtime staffers (David Wild is one of them) who hate a trendsetting band like Rush and pretty much, and I am paraphrasing here, have said "As long as I have a say they (Rush) will never get in." Nice eh?
Elvis Costello said it best years ago, that its about the turnstiles and bringing as many people as possible to visit the RRHOF. Its about money and not about tenure, influence or musicianship.
Rant off
Rush should be in the hall of Fame along with Yes and also
Boston – the band that helped kill the disco era
.....25TH Anniversary Celebration last year, that The Miracles should be in The Hall with him.
No. Smokey filmed the MIRACLES' MOTOWN DEFINITIVE DVD COLLECTION with Miracles members BOBBY ROGERS and PETE MOORE in 2006. And he was present with the group when they recieved their star on THE HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME last year.
He also said, at the ROCKAND ROLL HALL OF FAME'S
Who is the biggest miss on this list? Who else should the Hall of Fame be considering for next year? Some of the higher profile musicians who have yet to make the cut include:
YES – KISS
YES – Depeche Mode
YES – The Cure
YES – Chicago
YES – Hall and Oates
YES – Rush
YES – Alice Cooper
YES – Moody Blues
YES – E.L.O.
YES – Cheap Trick
YES – Bad Company
YES – Peter Frampton
YES – Heart
WHO ? ...T-Rex
YES – Bon Jovi
YES – Journey
YES – Foreigner
YES – Public Enemy
YES – Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility)
They are all big misses ! All of them and i'm sure many more should be inducted – - should already have been inducted ! Whats the hold up ???
Sorry but i never heard of T-Rex ...i will go check them out on iTunes
To Mike Shumann: Rush has been cited as an influence by MANY bands, including Metallica, Soundgarden, and the Smashing Pumpkins to name a few. Their music is unique so they may not have helped spawn a specific genre of music (like the Stooges did for punk), but they influenced a LOT of bands – one of which ended up in the HOF (Metallica)!
No doubt Rush deserves to be in a "Rock & Roll HOF". But, like many of the posters here have said, the RRHOF in Cleveland is no longer a HOF for "rock & roll". Since when is ABBA, Madonna, and Run DMC considered "rock & roll"? It should be renamed to "Pop Culture Hall of Fame".
As such, I have no problem with Rush (and a lot of the other snubbed artists) not being included in this type of hall. They obviously don't fit the bill - they are not mainstream enough. If there were ever a true Hall of Fame devoted to Rock & Roll, then Rush would / should be one of the first inductees!
Interesting that Smokey Robinson was inducted, but The Miracles were not. Is Smokey at odds with his former group-mates?
Rush absolutely should be there!
Someone said it before... a Rock n roll hall of fame in 2010 without KISS or Rush or Alice Cooper is just a joke. I mean, can't they tell??? These bands represented and still represents all that rock n roll actually is...
Cheap Trick is THE band to get inducted.... but as long as we have Madonna in...
Next year should include the following:
RUSH – enough said
Yes – very progressive themes and concepts
Journey – not a favorite of mine, but very deserving
Todd Rundgren – Innovative and influential as producer and artist
The Cars – invented American new wave, way underrated
However, it would then add too much credibility to the Hall, so forget it, never happen.
Depeche Mode in my opinion.
Been touring all over the world for over 20 years.
RHCP on second place.
I am living in Europe – i have´nt heard about Bad Company, Moody Blues, Journey or Peter Frampton.
Maybe the reason are my age?
Only 37....
Where can i find the list of the band who are in the Hall of fame?
How about putting some real bands in the HOF instead of all this bull I would really like to see bands that moved the rock genre foward like:
bikini kill
the smiths\morissey
the pixies
depeche mode
talk talk
NYdolls
yeah yeah yeahs
the cure
rhchp
foreigner
ratm
Without a doubt RUSH. and when they ever do get inducted they should tell the rrhof to stick it where the sun don't sun. If anybody knows just a fraction of Rush's history and music they would see RUSH is head and shoulders over anyone that is left and most of the ones that have been inducted. maybe they should just call it the music industry hall of fame. I don't know how they can consider ABBa as rock and roll. With most of these bands that have been inducted they should call themselves the R&R hall of Shame!
Rush and Yes for sure.
Their influence is expressed not only verbally by the musicians, but in music across many genres.
Rush continues to produce Gold and Platinum albums and sells out virtually every venue at which they appear.
I don't know if it's ignorance to the influence or they just don't fit this "rock and roll mold"...but Run DMC does...go figure
The Fugs.
-RUSH- not in the RRHOF is a shame and a disgrace! They have met all of the criteria in giant ways, they keep on rocking together even to this day, and selling gold and platimum even to this day for 30+ years. If ever in Cleveland I will stand oustside on the steps of the HOF and give the place a big "HILLBILLY HOWDY".
I agree with most of the artists named in this blog, even though I consider myself a "fan"of perhaps half of them.
Some of my choices are based on the idea that "if this artist i in then this one should be too." Others were just successful, innovative and influential in their own right (much like The Moody Blues, ELO, Alice Cooper, RHCP), and it boggles the mind that, because Jann Wenner & his companions cant wrap their legs around their music, it's not worthy.
Joan Jett
Roxy Music
Yes
Kate Bush
Warren Zevon
Jethro Tull
if James Taylor is in, then these guys should be:
Gordon Lightfoot
Cat Stevens
America
Neil Diamond
60's act every bit as deserving as The Hollies or DC5 are:
The Turtles
The Association
The 5th Dimension
With more thought, I'm sure my list would grow.
What I'd like to see is some trailblazing reporter ask current HOF inductees what *they* think about some of their contemporaries being so eaily dismissed that they have not even been place on the ballots for voters to consider. What do the members of Genesis & Pink Floyd think about The Moody Blues or Yes or King Crimson. What do Bob Dylan or Paul McCartney or Ringo or Tom Petty think about their friend & collaborator Jeff Lynne, and whether his group (ELO) should be considered. What *does James Taylor think of Lightfoot? How about asking Springsteen and the Eagles about Warren Zevon? Ask any successful female pop / rock performer about Heart or Kate Bush or Joan Jett, of Pat Benatar for that matter?
Man!!! That would be some article!
Well let me just be blunt here. I have always been amazed at how much we as a society let organizations like this one try and "speak for us" or dictate who is "worthy" or not.
The mere fact that two of the bands that you listed being Heart and Journey have not been inducted says it all. Ann Wilson and Steve Perry have two of the greatest voices ever recorded and both bands should without a doubt have long since been inducted. After that, the list just really goes on and on. So are these people really the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame or the "Rock and Roll Hall of Shame" for being so ignorant. This kind of reminds me of the ongoing debate and battle over gay marriage. Since I don't let the government dictate whether or not my love for someone else is valid I sure as hell am not going to let a small group of people tell me "who is worthy" in my Rock and Roll world.
The sad thing is that I would have liked to visit the RRHOF but for time being I have lost interest. I mean c'mon people if you want to use the "Fame" should it be about Fame.
Where the fans, the people, the ones who really matter.
Hmmm, maybe it's time to start our own.....
Rock On People!
How is ABBA in but Hall and Oats not? Maybe ABBA deserves to be there...maybe not.... but if they do it should be AFTER Hall and Oats. It's not like I'm some big Hall and Oats follower....just observing the numbers below. I think they speak for themselves. And just cuz someone made a Broadway show and movie out of ABBA songs the powers that be were distracted by the shiny object in the room.
Hall & Oats:
6 number 1 singles in the US
22 top 20 Singles(16 top 10)
ABBA:
1 Number 1 Single in the US
10 Top 20 Singles(4 top 10)
THE MIRACLES were the ONLY Motown group during the sixties that wrote and produced their OWN material. The Supremes didn't . The Temptations didn't...nor did The Four Tops....but the Miracles did(ALL of them....not just Smokey....although he tends to get most of the credit). Don't believe it ? Just check out the writing credits on their records....and those of many other Motown acts..and you'll see their names: ROBINSON, ROGERS,MOORE ,WHITE, and TARPLIN.
...So, WHY did all of these other Motown acts get inducted .... while THE MIRACLES DIDN'T ? And, with over 50 chart hits, HOW could the RRHOF leave them OUT... while inducting THE RONETTES (only 8 chart hits) , PERCY SLEDGE (only ONE BIG HIT) ,
THE MIRACLES are one of the most IMPORTANT groups in music history. Their appearance, and subsequent success, marked the beginning of THE MOTOWN PHENOMENON. That means that all of the Motown acts that came AFTER the Miracles may have never even seen success, including THE SUPREMES,(who were actually DISCOVERED by Miracles member Smokey Robinson), THE TEMPTATIONS, MICHAEL JACKSON & THE JACKSON 5, THE COMMODORES and LIONEL RITCHIE, MARVIN GAYE, (who started out as The Miracles' DRUMMER ), STEVIE WONDER (who was discovered by Miracles member RONNIE WHITE), and numerous others. MOTOWN was the vehicle through which ALL OF THEM found fame and fortune.
Yet, without THE MIRACLES, there would have been NO MOTOWN. Berry Gordy himself said it. Who would know better than him ??
How can the Hall Of Fame induct all of the BRANCHES of the Motown Tree, while at the same time, IGNORING THE ROOTS ?? PUT THE MIRACLES IN THE RRHOF, ALREADY !!
BIG MISSES: Jethro Tull; Steve Miller Band; Electric Light Orchestra; James Cotton; Sonny Boy Williamson; Chambers Brothers.
Depeche Mode really should be inducted, especially as they've been eligible for the past four years.
I don't buy people's arguments about them not being a "rock" band either. Take a look at past inductees to see the variance of styles, including Abba this year. Clearly the judges have their ears open to a musical palette wider than white guys holding guitars, and rightly so.
So Depeche Mode get my vote:
Consistently evolving and exciting music, fantastic stage presence thanks to frontman Dave Gahan, worldwide sellout tours spanning three decades, millions of record sales, influential to countless modern bands.
So who was saying they'd "never heard of Depeche Mode"?
And Jann Wenner himself was inducted in the "Lifetime Achievement in the Non-Performer" category in 2004.
I guess there are perks associated with being the HOF's co-founder and vice chairman...
No KISS? this is worse than Tull getting the Grammy for Heavy Metal, worse than Forrest Gump getting Oscar over Shawshank. MOdern metal, hair bands, Crue, Bon Jovi, VH – - all sure inductees, wouldn't exist if not for KISS. I haved been to the RRHOF. It sucks ass. ABBA wouldn't be rock even if I used drugs. No Deep Purple? Ritchie Blackmore? creator of one of the 5 most frecognizable riffs in music history? Anyone involved in HOF is an idiot and an asshole. Fact, period, end of story. This is worse than Obama getting the peace prize for having a drunk and a racist cop to the WH for a beer.
Someone posted that ELO didn't belong – wrong, a thousand times. Jeff Lynne is hugely influential, as a producer, writer, musician
I've seen some folks wondering why Frank Zappa wasn't inducted... he was actually inducted in 1995.
One of the biggest acts of the 70's was Grand Funk Railroad. The fact that they haven't been inducted into the Hall of Fame borders on criminal.
The Marshall Tucker Band
Whoa Tony
Hang on sonny.
Most people could pass any member of Kiss on the street and not have a clue who they are.
Try that with Mick Jaggar.
The Rolling Stones are by far more famous than KISS.
KISS is famous for looking like clowns.
NOT for being musicians.
Might as well put Spinal Tap in
It seems to me that all that's really needed to be inducted into the Rock hall is that the band/artist's first release was issued 25+ years ago. Do they overlook talent and innovation? To what end? It's not unlike some of the magazines out there that'll put anyone on the cover. It's great that Les Paul and Elvis and the Beatles and Stones are in, but a majority of the rest is filler. Madonna? That's a stretch.
The genius of Todd Rundgren...Todd Rundgren...Todd Rundgren!!!
There are many great bands on that list, but KISS is the only iconic, legendary band on that list. KISS is probably the 2nd most famous band of all time next to the Beatles and certainly one of the most recognizable acts. The Hall of Fame means nothing until KISS is enshrined.
Of course, the most important omition is Kiss. You have to be really a moron if you say Kiss shouldn't be in the Hall. They were popular, inventive, created a new genre (if not musically, at least visually) and they still go strong after all this years. Putting the RHCP (a band who really can't play -or sing, he is the worst singer ever live!) aside them is a joke.
Alice Cooper, Heart, Rush should be inducted.
Neil Diamond, Tom Waits too...
what about Sonic Youth?
wow ! 2272 comments ! that must be a record posting on this blog.
anyhoo... i'd like to see a separate Hall of Fame for my favorite Alternative rock since some people are saying if its not headbanging it doesnt count as rock ...
here are my faves:
XTC
Squeeze
Crowded House
Depeche Mode
Talk Talk
REM
Hives
Weezer
Seether
Incubus
Muse
Oleander
Stabbing Westward
Ludo
Saliva
Puddle of Mudd
WAR should be inducted. Their sound was and is unique. Their biggest hits are a permanent part of pop culture
ah hello HALL & OATS
With the exceptions of KISS and the Chili Peppers, none of the bands on the "snubbed" list have been very influential. I mean hey, when was the last time you heard of anyone citing Rush, Hall & Oates, Journey, ELO, or Bad Company (gasp) as a major influence? That's why they're not in the HOF and are unlikely to get there – they sold lots of records, but didn't impact rock 'n' roll the way lesser sellers like The Stooges, The Hollies, or Gene Vincent did.
What about Johnny Winter. I think he's waited long enough.
Sorry, but ABBA's induction is not well deserved. They don't belong at all.
And I agree, the biggest snub is Rush.
A Carol Kaye reference. Nice.
Let's vote in a group of MUSICIANS who have really stood the test of time:
TOWER OF POWER! 40 years and still going strong!
Stryper
What do all of these groups have in common?
The Band
Butterfield Blues Band
Badfinger
Foghat
Johnny Winter
New York Dolls
Hall and Oates
Bette Midler
Meat Loaf
The Tubes
Rick Derringer
Psychedelic Furs
Cheap Trick
Laura Nyro
Bonnie Tyler
Lords of the New Church
XTC
Psychedelic Furs
TODD RUNDGREN!!!!!!
Foghat
Nazareth
Bad Company/Free/Paul Rogers
Culture Club should be in there also.
Cheap Trick!!! Without a doubt one of the greatest rock bands ever. Still rocking hard and putting out critically acclaimed quality music. It is an absolute crime they have not been inducted.
Also very deserving:
Rush
YES
Heart
Moody Blues
Boston
This is a ludicrous non-story that pops up in LAZY journalism each and every time a new RR HOF inductees list comes out. The HOF only inducts so many each year. Those not inducted this year have not been "passed up." Groups like Kiss and Chicago and RHCP will eventually get into the damn Hall of Fame! The induction is a pr persons dream and if we just added all 1000 big selling acts all at once, there's no point to the whole process.
Why is everyone so stupid!
The most substantial & egregious snub is Tom Dowd. Why the RRHOF has not inducted him is both a mystery & travesty. He is clearly one on the most important & influentail figures in the history Rock n Roll. His body of work & contributions spanned over 50 years. From Coltrane to Clapton. From Ray Charles to The Allman Brothers, just to name a few.
steve @ 3:16
Who did the Moody Blues Copy?!!!!
An Very Original Band.
I would like to see what the criteria is for consideration and induction into the HoF. Popularity and album sales alone? Longevity of their popularity? Concert revenues? What is the benchmark? If the likes of Neil Diamond and Rush are not in, then the HoF is a joke and should start serving burgers and just hang a Hard Rock sign out front/
Few band have influenced the world and future generations of music makers like Black Sabbath.
Love them or hate them, there is no denying their impact.
Nice to see Genesis get in, but the HOF is not legit until the rest of the Progressive Rock genre bands are included: Moody Blues, Yes, Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Jethro Tull. Those bands were the top names of the late 60's early 70's.
No question...YES is missing
The Hall needs to address the blatant disrespect for all 70's progressive music. Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, King Crimson, and into Rush are all stuck in exile. GENESIS was the first true concession; lets hope that this is a coming to sense by this authoritarian process of election.
Where's Neil Diamond????
What is Wrong With This Picture?
An amazing individual talent like Stevie Ray Vaughan gets missed.
True Trailblazers like Dick Dale and Link Wray get missed.
Groups like Chicago, the Moody Blues, and Rush get missed.
ABBA makes it in?! This selection causes Acid Reflux.
Compare:
ABBA – Dancing Queen to SRV – Love Struck Baby
http://www.lala.com/#album/504684633477539180/Stevie_Ray_Vaughan,_Dick_Dale/The_Real_Deal:_Greatest_Hits_Volume_2
Might need to sign up – Free
SRV plays with Dick Dale in Grammy winner Pipeline @ #11 on the list.
There is no comparison.
ABBA is a total joke as a HOF anything.
Cheap Trick and Kiss are two of the best Live Bands of all time and both have been doing it for 30 years plus! I would love to see the two of them get in the same year and then Cheap Trick can play surrender, and when the line "throw my kiss records out" Kiss could come out and play with them!!
Leon Russell
What about The Carpenters? There is still no better female vocalist than Karen. And Richard created some studio techniques still used today. Plus he was a great arranger.
Replacements, GnR, Alex Chilton, Warren Zevon, yes. KISS, Moody Blues, Motley Crue, Hall and Oates, et al, hell no. Most of the bands in CNN's list of "snubs" were cynical marketing formulas, copycats of better bands created to maximize consumer interest (i.e., sales) that have already received their rewards in the form of money. They were the "Pat Boones" who co-opted the "Little Richards" of Rock and Roll who blazed the trail for them. The Hall of Fame, for the most part, rightfully rewards the innovators, and many times, bestows upon them the fame they richly deserved in their days of making music. Sometimes the innovators were also commercially successful, mostly due to dumb luck and serendipity, but not always. ABBA was great, though not to everyone's taste; like Neil Diamond, music that polished probably belongs in a pop music hall, not the rock hall.
Personal feelings do matter but what about the artists accomplishements? Look at a group like KISS–no one ever took them seriously, not even themselves, but they still sell out shows and have sold close to one hundred million albums after 36 years. KISS has never said they had the musical ability of the Philharmonic Orchestra–KISS is plain old hedonistic good time rock and roll and they give you something to visualize as well. Hey, I love the Eagles but they are the most damn boring group I have ever seen on stage–and I am talking about when they were younger too...I think one of the problems is that the rock and roll hall of fame judges have lost touch with the most true sense of rock and roll–it is supposed to be fun and rebellious, it is not supposed to be over analyzed and you are not going to find the hidden meaning of life in a rock and roll song...KISS is all about having fun, trying to stay youg at heart, and try to forget about all the stuff you have to do throughout the day. If people didn't care about KISS–why would they still be around after 36 years and why would they still be releasing new music? Answer: The people still like KISS and they still want to see and/or hear KISS. The rock and roll hall of fame is lead by a bunch of dried up old prunes who would rather sit around dreaming about the days they all skipped class and got high...
I can't believe how many people don't know who the stooges are.. Anyway The Hall of fame is really a bunch of crap and is almost counter to what Rock and Roll stands for (or stood for). What most of the responses appear to be is fans saying "why isn't my favorite band in the HOF". because what we're realy talking about is something that is totally and completely subjective.
The Go-Go's are the first successful all female rock band to write their own songs and play their own instruments.
According to the RIAA, Rush's sales statistics place them fourth behind The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith for the most consecutive gold or platinum albums by a rock band.
No, I guess they're not Hall-worthy.
List of snubs include The Marvelettes, Jr. Walker and the All-Stars, Rick James, The Commodores, Lionel Richie, The Miracles (Smokey Robinson was inducted by himself).
KISS should definitely be in the hall of fame
I've read that KISS isn't in because the band wants royalties/payment from the HoF once they're in, which is a dealbreaker for HoF.
Not even close. Alice Cooper. The man should have his own wing of the building. I can't even imagine how many bands followed him, copied him, and owe their very careers to him. But no one should be surprised. They made Paul McCartney wait until the late 90's to get in.
I don't know what kind of political mumbo jumbo goes on there, but I would like to nominate myself as supreme governing body of this clueless aristocracy. First thing I would do is Moe slap each of the morons I sent packing.
umm.....BEASTIE BOYS????
TODD RUNDGREN AND RUSH NOT IN ABBA IN WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE
Let's start here: neither ABBA nor Jimmy Cliff are rock and roll, period, point blank, end of story. Neither is Madonna, and none of them should've gotten in over Husker Du. If this is the RHCP's first year of eligibility, then the Huskers have well-been eligible for a while now, and so should Bob Mould-solo I believe, but if not then he should darn well get in too. There's also too many one-hit wonders getting in (Del Shannon? Who ever cites him as an influence?)
Agree with the list, but would also add Meat Loaf. Third best selling album of all time!!! He deserves it.
I will not recognize the RHF until Chicago is inducted!
Diana Ross made the cover of Rolling Stone Twice. She is the voice of the Supremes. She is the prototype for every DIVA that has been successful after her (Beyonce take note) and her music spans soul, r&b, rock, jazz, even disco.
Definitely Kiss is the biggest miss. The second biggest would be Peter Frampton.
Somebody should start another establishment. We can call it the "Rock Hall of Heroes" or something like that and induct everyone that the so called "Hall of Fame" leaves out. We can leave out the committee of the "Hall of Fame" too. These votes would come from the fans, for the people ,by the people, of the people. All styles of rock music is invited, no other kind of music. The "Hall of Heroes" building would have a museum with a great sound system so we can hear our favourite bands.Next to the museum will be a 20,000 seat arena for our induction ceremony/concerts. Male/Female bands,producers,and writers get inducted.
Yes, Dick Dale–also Link Wray!
Ringo Starr needs to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. Nearly every great rock 'n roll drummer alive today was originally influenced by Ringo. And while I'm naming names, Badfinger, the Zombies (possibly the world's first progressive rock band other than the Beatles), Yes, and Todd Rundgren all have paid their dues and should be inducted NEXT YEAR!
WHITESNAKE!!
I can't believe ABBA gets in before KISS or Alice Cooper? I don't really like KISS or RUSH, but I think they belong in the HoF...Notice how as soon as Jann got pretty much full control he turned the HoF towards "pop" groups instead of "rock." But I must correct our friend that said Alice Cooper has never been on the cover...he's been on Rolling Stone at least twice...I seem to recall a third, but couldn't find it on-line.
RINGO STARR!
He deserves this more than anyone. Not only does he have talent on the drums, but he is an amazing musician.
Less than 24 hours ago I posted here and already more than 500 posts since.... boy howdy it's good to see such passion for music.
Regarding The Stooges induction (a good thing) ... for the last couple years people were screaming bloody murder they didn't get the nod and now that they do people are saying, "who are The Stooges?". I bet those same people couldn't tell you who the members of the following bands are... Cream, Beatles, Stones, Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Who... name at least 3 Chuck Berry songs, same for Elvis, Little Richard, Tommy James & the Shondells, Animals. How about which band started off a song with, "Kick out the jams+++" and the answer is not Rage Against The Machine.
Please have a working knowledge of music history before throwing barbs.
Be patient because I tend to think the Moody Blues will make it in. How could they not? Same for Jethro Tull, Alice Cooper and even Kiss. Grand Funk? Yes? Rush? Time is working against them. There are a dozen more that will maybe make it in ..."maybe" given time but what goes against them is just that... time. There are only five spots for music acts and each year so many more acts become eligible. Next year the Beasties will probably get in and to me they almost still seem new and surely they deserve getting in. All those puck bands from the early '80's? You can forget it. Same for all the hair bands. Bon Jovi and Def Leppard maybe and I am not speaking from a love for that music but speaking for the odds probably.
Yes it does seem silly that bands like Deep Purple aren't in but votes are votes and the only time Jann Wenner is said to have bent things was when the first Rap act got in and he stalled on of the deserving bands from getting in by another year. Terrible thing but beyond that blame the people who vote for some of the silliness of who gets in... like ABBA. But hey that's me.
There is politics thrown in or so they say. Linda Ronstadt wasn't liked for a long time due to things she said in public and people in the know all agree she belongs in. Maybe Jann Wenner does swing votes more than I think
The worst dilemma is how the nominations are processed by so few people such as Jenn Wenner, Suzan Evans, Dave Marsh. Quoting from wiki, "At one point Suzan Evans lamented the choices being made because there weren't enough big names that would sell tickets to the dinner. That was quickly remedied by dropping one of the doo-wop groups being considered in favor of a 'name' artist...I saw how certain pioneering artists of the '50s and early '60s were shunned because there needed to be more name power on the list, resulting in '70s superstars getting in before the people who made it possible for them. Some of those pioneers still aren't in today."
How about increasing the number inducted each year from five to ten?
Life is good! Love the music
Kraftwerk!
The Archies
What about the Doobie Brothers// Hall and Oates// Heart/ Pat Benatar
Enough of the ZAPPA comments
He Is In – 1995
Kiss – you go to be kidding me – this is about music, not makeup.
DAN
I loved Steppenwolf in the day, I wouldn't go out today and buy Steppenwolf.
I would buy Ten Years After
I would buy Savoy Brown
I would buy The Miracles
I would buy Jethro Tull
I would buy Blind Faith
I would buy Jim Croce
I would buy Stray Cats (just did a few weeks ago)
I would buy lots of oldies before Steppenwolf
HUGE OMISSION 1st LOUD GUITARIST:
DICK DALE
One of the BIGGEST OMISSIONS is Dick Dale & the Del-tones.
Dale created the wet sound defining the surf sound.
His song Let's Go Trippin' is considered the first Surf Instrumental.
Dale blew up so many Fender AMPS that Fender changed the way they were made.
Dale had a special sized speaker made just for him – the 15 inch JBL D130
Oh, Kris Kristofferson should make it in as a song writer.
What a load. This "honor' is such a crock. Some elitist clique in a vast minority decides who is worthy.......how about letting the actual listeners decide, and just monitor sales. If we buy your crap, we like you......if not, then take your "artistically talented but underappreciated" Hall-of-Famers and fund your organization with the money you never earned.
OK, OK. Kiss may not have the talent that most of teh inductees posess. HOWEVER, the mark they left on the music industry makes them a shoe-in. The set the standard for what a R&R stage show should be (and then went above and beyond it). Their combination of thunderous sound, lights, pyro, and theatrics always gave their fans their money's worth.
You should also look beyond the music a bit and see which artists that followed them were heavily influenced by them (see Marylin Manson who got taken to a Kiss show at a young age which forever inspired him). Most of the big name 80's heavy metal artists would list Kiss as a major influence.
The Hall of Fame is not full of only Rock & Roll purists – the precedent has been set. They continue to induct R&B, soul, reggae, and country artists due to their influence or (or by) R&R.
My Criteria:
Did the group offer something new? Did they change the face of R&R? Did they go in a new direction? Were they fresh and exiting? Musically dynamic? Did they and do they still have a following? Were they more than a one-hit wonder?
Given those items:
Depeche Mode – YES (different than any other group)
Chicago – YES (not exactly rock but more rock than ABBA – what a joke)
Alice Cooper – YES (scare the crap out of people – under appreciated as a musical band)
Moody Blues – YES (amazing)
Heart – YES (first choice – they were the first girl band that really rocked)
**Todd Rundgren a wizard a true star
who gives a crap about the rock and roll hall of fame? seriously. the hall of fame is exactly what rock and roll is supposed to be against – the establishment!
How about Jerry Butler? Or is he a stretch because he's well-known mostly for his ballads?
JERRY BUTLER is in the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. He was inducted with his original group, THE IMPRESSIONS. But , you're right ..His SOLO accomplishments DEFINITELY deserve individual recognition.
Def Leppard!
2 Diamond (+10 mil sold) certified albums and still together. C'mon!
Remember the saying "never belong to a group that would have you as a member"...Rush is just fine being on the outside of this committee with such a clear agenda. Besides, they're still relevant. And really...you people want them in the same club as Kiss? That is an indefensible insult.
Frank Zappa
Oh yes, the great Warren Zevon.
Heart is one of the few groups to chart hits in three decades! Iggy and the Stooges were an energetic club band that had little influence on music
MARC BOLAN MARC BOLAN MARC BOLAN MARC BOLAN!!
70's rock ballad groups all did forgetable music that has aged badly; keep them all out.
Put in; Dire Straights, Eurythmics, Joe Cocker and, yes, Weird Al.
well it has to be marc bolan and t.rex because he was very talented wrote poems sang and composed his own songs and played the guitar brilliantly he also had a personality and a sweetness that was unique.
he appeals to all ages young old and inbetween. his music never dates he still sounds fresh and new. please vote for him as his musical career was tragically cut short in a car accident at the tender age of 29. dont forget his fellow musicians in t.rex the late great steve currie mickey finn and bill legend and there producer tony visconti who together brought the magic ingredients to t.rex check them out on you tube you wont be dissapointed
It's this simple...
The Hall should be renamed the Jann Wenner Hall Of Fame. It is known that if he doesn't approve, the act doesn't get in or even considered. It is not a committee really, but his own personal appreciation society.
Get rid of Jann and the non-rock and roll acts.
Supertramp
Poco, the pioneers of country rock, still going after 42 years!
Linda Ronstadt
2 WORDS: SAMMY HAGAR
the only thing genesis did for r&r was get people to but pun, rock and good music records. maybe they belong in the lame-o wing!
Weird Al Yankovic should be there! Artists whom he has parodied have said that they knew they had "arrived" when Al asked for permission to do a parody of their songs.
The DOOBIE BROTHERS!!!!
I think Sonic Youth deserve to be in as well.
No Chicago? Then I seriously question whether this HOF is to be taken seriously. By any method of measurment, whether it's sales, originality, longevity, musicianship, ability to survive changing tastes...Chicago would seem to be on par with most if not all of the bands currently in the Hall. If they don't get in, it proves what I think- the Hall is a sham.
The one and only "Runt"...Todd Rundgren !
A band like ABBA goes in over Rush? This is why I refuse to visit the Hall of Fame and don't even recognize it as a legitimate entity. Also why I don't read Rolling Stone.
All I can say is the HOF is truly "Heart-less" when it comes to recognizing a band that not only sold millions of records, but also demolished the stereotype of what an American rock 'n roll band should look like.
I am willing to wager the Kiss supporters – who I think are the largest contingent for bands who have been "snubbed" – are likely to turn up their nose at the notion of Britney Spears or NSync being inducted in the future. Well, it's for the same reasons provided for Kiss that these artists would be inducted. They influenced nearly a decade of music, were wildly popular, selling out huge tours and millions of albums, and were pop culture phenomenons outside of music with appearances in ads, on tv, and with tons of merchandising.
Lets see…
The Replacements
Lucinda Williams
Cheap Trick
Rush
Yes
Deep Purple
Little Feat
Graham Parker
Nick Lowe
The R&R HoF selections to be legit need to be consistent and use objective factors as much as possible–sales, longevity on the charts/in the business, and include criteria for R&R vs. R&B, Pop, Rap etc.
Most deserving left out: Steppenwolf, Connie Francis, Chicago and Moody Blues. BTW, how can Brenda Lee be in and not Connie Francis?
CHICAGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The hardest working band in the biz Cheap Trick
and Kiss they took it up a notch....and yes they can play...
FRANK ZAPPA , a great American Composer who a lot of Rock Bands emulate in there music.
E STREET BAND
Some great overlooked musicians in that outfit. Those guys can play anything.
The minute disco and RAP acts made it in...it ceased to be the R&R HoF. End of discussion
How about Todd Rundgren?? 44 years (and counting) of creativity and consistency in the music making universe. He has a catalogue of songs that would garner the respect and admiration of any of the great American composers.
Jethro Tull – Greatest Hard Rock band of all time.
okay, what am I missing. No one is mentioning Steppenwolf? These guys ruled the 70s and had a sound and an attitude like no other.
RORY GALLEGER
Most of those artists don't deserve to get in, but then again, there's already a list of artists in the rock hall that shouldn't be there. Some of them will get in eventually though.
I hate to admit it because I'm from the Cleveland area and want to see the Rock Hall do well, but the Rock Hall is admittedly hard to take seriously as far as who's in and who isn't.
Hey, what about Stevie Ray Vaughn???? C'mon!
Mutt Lange.
You know, in high school, I used to read all the metal mags, like Rip and a few others I can't remember the names to (lol), and almost every bass player listed Geddy Lee as an influence and almost every drummer listed Neill Peart. How can you have a band that has influenced so many be overlooked? Nevermind that they're also one of the tightest and most talented bands I've ever heard. They were ambassadors of music for Canada, for Pete's sake!
CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO
CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO...CHICAGO !!!!!
These are the true musicians in the Industry, and if not for the Politics of the music world powers that be, they would have been there on the first year of eligibility !! The truth of the matter is, they don't need the R&R Hall of Fame to validate them as a success. The fans have already done that by selling out concert after concert for the past 40+ years !!!!! Dear members of the machine....do them a favor by not inducting them into the club and having to share the spotlight with the likes of The Stooges and every other band that never had any business even recording viynl back in the day !! Thank God for the Fans that know a true musical genius...LONG LIVE CHICAGO !!!
ROBIN TROWER
HELLOOOOO!
BILLY SQUIER
When Depeche Mode, Bon Jovi & the RHCP don't get inducted to the Hall of fame, but Madonna & rappers get inducted on their first try, you know there's a problem. All of the bands that I mentioned above not only had made great music for over 25 years but they continue to sell out venues everywhere they go.
Warren Zevon. Rush. Guess Who. Stevie Ray Vaughn.
Not a day goes by without every "classic rock station" on planet earth studding their playlist with Jethro Tull. The tin-eared silence within the so called 'Rock and Roll Hall of Fame' is evidence of a unique sense of humor.
Definitely Cheap Trick and Rush...ESPECIALLY since these 2 fine bands are still touring. And I'm not talking about "reunion" touring after a 10 year absence...I mean regular touring! That's what defines a band that deserves induction! Too bad the committe at the RRHOF don't know talent if it bit them in the butt.
Public Enemy.
HEY ROCKHALL: WHERE ARE THE FUNK BROTHERS?!?
These guys were the house band for Motown in the 60's and part of the 70's! This band was responsible for more #1 hits than The Beach Boys, The Stones, Elvis, and the Beatles combined! (according to their documentary and published Billboard results) Great documentary on them a few years ago called "Standing In The Shadows of Motown". Rent it on Netflix sometime and you'll see what I mean. If it weren't for these guys, Berry Gordy wouldn't have had a Motown. Not only did these guys play on about 90% of Motown's hits, they also moonlighted for other artists like the great Jackie Wilson, Dinah Washington, George Clinton, and other legendary artists.
Carol Kaye, Bass Guitar
HEART who is fronted by two of the most talented rock musicians to ever play rock music,and who happen to be women.They are still out there touring and playing just as hard as in the seventies,if not better.They are true musicians.
The Fugs
Alice Cooper, no question!
Spice Girls, Corey Hart, The Osmonds, (The Osmonds Phase 3 album was rock city man.) And the biggest snub of all far beyond Rush and Kiss, The Bay City Rollers.
How about Def Leppard, incredible group still going strong and still influenceing music today.
Ladies and gentlemen, if the almighty Jan Wenner doesn't like your music then it doesn't matter how many votes an act gets nor how many fans want to see them in the HOF.
No support from Wenner = no HOF.
ABBA deserves to be there, as do the others mentioned in this article – but to omit bands such as RUSH, or YES, ELO – and yet to include rappers – RAPPERS! – in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is ludirous. And I don't mean that gangsta...
Its more like the Pop Hall of Fame. When Madonna gets voted in, and yet (as someone else said) the ones who pave the way are left out, you know its all a friggin' popularity contest and a joke.
But seriously, Jimmy Cliff totally deserves it.
Ringo Starr should be inducted, for his solo hits and extensive drumming work for other artists on hit records.
While we're rectifying past mistakes, get Madonna OUT OF THERE!!!
Alice Cooper, wow what a showman, everyone from my generation
Three words....
Stevie
Ray
Vaughan
I guess this is the POP Hall of Fame, as opposed to the R&B HOF or the RAP HOF or the Punk HOF or the Metal HOF. The ROCK HOF is a misnomer, as everybody and their mother is in, or NOT, as the case may be.
I think included bands have to have at least a 5 year life span, and have a major impact on the music industry. Hall of Fame means FAME, to some degree. Who is voting for these inductees? The selection process is diluted and I think it is a joke.
How popular were these bands in the 70s:
Rush
Deep Purple
Yes
Jethro Tull
They blew the doors off of the world when they toured!
Not in the HOF? Here's more.
KISS
Alice Cooper
Dire Straits
How could Bon Jovi not make the list? They have held their own and honed their craft over the past 25 years and are still selling out arenas world wide. Regardless of they type of music you listen to, it doesn't change the impact that this band has made over the few decades and how the philanthropy work that they continue to persevere with impacts not only the music culture, but our own society.
Mainstream music should get more recognition by the HoF, but record sales should not be a determining factor in who gets inducted.
How a band such as King Crimson not be inducted into the Shlock and Blow Hall of Lame is beyond me!! Those guys have been pumping out albums (with a couple hiatus') for 40 years....BLONDIE and ABBA are in but no King Crimson. Listen to Starless And Bible Black (or any of their work, actually) and tell me with a straight face that Robert Fripp and co. don't belong...so I can watch your musical point of view crumble in front of me.
...and same goes for Rush. Deny it all you want, but, those guys have been in the trenches for 4 decades and have paved a more influential path than Brenda Lee or Blondie! If you don't agree than you obviously dislike or have no knowledge of modern hard rock or metal.
I could care less for Kiss, but, I am surprised that they keep getting the shaft. Kiss was and still is dominant in the music industry. I feel...meh..about their music, but, Kiss should definitely be in on the credentials of their marketing and "rock and roll is larger than life" concerts!
Jann Wenner should be locked in a dingy basement and Rolling Stone is a sad shell of it's previous self....
Ian Hunter
How 'bout Iron Maiden and Judas Priest. These were the bands that led Metal into the '80. Also whay are Run DMC and Grnd Master Flash in the ROCK 'N ROLL all of Fame. This might be the most unrealistic Hall of all time.
The only thing that needs to be said here is that Abba just got into the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. The ommissions we should be talking about are Guy Lombardo, Lawerence Welk and the Yanni. Let's face it, the R&R Hall of Fame is a joke.
I think the HoF induction criteria revolve around what Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone magazine deem "cool enough" for inclusion. Every once in a while, they will throw a bone to mainstream music fans (notice the inductions of Lynryd Skynyrd, Van Halen, and Black Sabbath... not to imply they were undeserving), but they seem to gravitate towards acts like Velvet Underground, The Stooges, Patti Smith and REM. It's just a matter of what's perceived as "important" music by a few people, than music that is enjoyed by the masses.
It's painfully obvious that women are marginalized in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
HEART should be on this list too.
There are so many musicans that should be included
I think Grand Funk Railroad & Chicago should be inducted.
Like everything else it is political..
Chicago and the Moody Blues being left off is a joke.
Chicago has sold over 200 million records and had like 50 top 40 hits.
Jan Wenner hates them which is the only reason they are not in.
Only the Beach Boys have sold more records as an American band.
not a particular fan of their later efforts, but they should be just based on their first 7 albums which were truly ground breaking and innovative.
As for the Moodies, their early stuff was incredible. To put the Stooges
in before these two great bands is a complete joke
WOW... look at the size of this recommendation list....it looks like the RRHOF has alot of catching up to do! I would like them to consider inducting more candidates while they have the support and interest of the Rock community. Again HOF status is not given lightly but with the names or bands listed above and to follow their are still to many looking in from the outside..I think the older artists that continue to work and perform in the business should get a priority and gesture of gratitude well deserved ...I will not relist all the names I agree with and support from above, but I will make a few acknowledgements, no greater deserving than the others but needs to be included: Todd Rundgren, Joe Jackson and Mott (Ian Hunter)...
JOURNEY is the most shocking omission on this list. Steve Perry and Neal Schon in the same band!! And yes they are rock n' roll... anyone who's ever listened to "One More" on their Trial By Fire album can tell you that JOURNEY rocks.
If KISS gets in someday you might as well put in SPINAL TAP.
They're ACTORS.
They can't play, they perform.
Give them an Oscar, or Golden Globe, keep them out of the RRHOF.
Late 60's, early 70's, few had more top 40 hits than Three Dog Night
ABBA's not rock.
The Cure...not rock.
Depeche Mode...not rock
Rush – ROCK!!!
Cheap Trick – AND ROLL!!!
where is stevie ray vaughan
None of this is really "shocking."
The RRHOF is a total joke. Journey, Bon Jovi, Foreigner, Heart, and the list goes on are ROCK groups. Why don't they whip up a Rap HOF, Country HOF, Blues HOF, etc, etc, etc. and let the real rockers into what is "suppose" to be a HOF for rockers?
The Moody Blues music changed a whole generation and they still draw!
How can they not be in the HOF?
Peter Frampton, not n the HOF? C'mon!
MARK B
You LOST ALL CREDIBILITY when you said Tom Petty shouldn't be in the Hall.
He may not be your cup of tea but he is in the Hall for good reason. Check the credentials.
Rush isn't my cup of tea, but I still think they belong.
Someone mentioned the MIRACLES.
Smokey Robinson is in and was the main reason for the Miracles success, still I agree that as a group they belong.
An amazing body of work.
Is it required that someone gets in every year?
ABBA is great but not rock and roll. Nor is RunDMC, or Madonna, or Michael Jackson, and other past winners. Maybe it should be the Pop Music Hall of Fame and have a rock wing, rap wing, metal wing, blues wing, country wing, big band wing etc Clearly what is considered rock is too blurred now.
How about paying more attention to the performers of the 1950's and early 1960's, without whom, Rock 'n Roll would have never existed. There were so many great individuals and groups that had multi gold records. How about Connie Francis or The Cleftones?
This is realy simple. You cannot call yourself the Rock and Roll Hall of fame and not include Journey, Rush, Heart, Chicago and others and in the same breath say that Madonna and Run DMC are in the Hall.
Simply put the rock and roll hall of fame is a joke unto itself. Taking Journey as an example, 85 million albums sold! The group has been around since 1974, that's 36 years! Heart's debut album was in 1976, that's 34 years. Their body of work alone speaks volumes and all of this bashing about the period for which they played is nonsense. It is what was loved, bought and listened to at the time just like 50's, 60's and 70's music was.
Face it folks, the groups mentioned not only deserve to be in the Hall but should have been there years ago.... Bash away if you like but truth is what truth is...
KISS – Yes (they are the fathers of the glam hard rock scene. Should have already been inducted)
Depeche Mode – No (Not as influential as others. New wave pop band with huge worldwide following)
The Cure – Yes (One of the founders of al rock scene. Should be in, but not for a few more years)
Chicago – Yes (Influential sound, longevity, popularity and have changed with the music scenery)
Hall and Oates – Yes (Probably best duo ever. Fused R&B and rock. Ruled the 80s)
Rush – Maybe (Huge collection, but not groundbreaking to other bands. Maybe in a few years)
Alice Cooper – Yes (Godfather of shock rock. Still rockin'. Classy dude)
Moody Blues – Yes (Groundbreaking sound. Fused horns, classical, orchestras and rock)
E.L.O. – No (Great music, but maybe in a few more years)
Cheap Trick – No (Great concert and radio performers. Not hugely influential)
Bad Company – No (see Cheap Trick)
Peter Frampton – No (One album solo success. Nothing hugely influential, other than the being with Humble Pie and the use of the "Talk Box")
Heart – Yes (Influential to many women rockers, though music is commercial. Ann Wilson's voice is still one of the best ever)
T-Rex – No (Followers of other glam rock bands)
Bon Jovi – Maybe (In a couple years...yes. Huge arena band. Recording monsters. Influential for hair product sales in the 80s & 90s)
Journey – Yes (Older than Bon Jovi and another arena and recording monster)
Foreigner – No (Great commercial success, but not hugely influential.)
Public Enemy – Maybe (Politically outspoken group. Influenced many others to speak their piece. Yes, especially in a few years)
Red Hot Chili Peppers – No (Too early, though they probably deserve to be inducted in about a decade)
All the Rush fans have forgotten about the Canadian band that put Canada on the musical map and on the radio: The Guess Who. How can this, the greatest Canadian band, NOT be honoured by the R&R HOF? [Answer: Because the selection is done by self-serving idiots who will put Dexy's Midnight Runners or Spandau Ballet into the Hall before anybody with serious musical talent.] Don't forget about that one band that came into existence after Randy Bachman quit The Guess Who: Bachman Turner Overdrive.
It's also a "duh" that Deep Purple should be recognized. Anybody who learns to play a guitar starts with "the holy trinity of rock," those intro notes from "Smoke on the Water."
Deep Purple, Rush, Heart and Ted Nugent are the most egregious omissions.
BTW – several people mentioned Van Halen – sorry guys, they were inducted year before last. You didn't hear much about it because only Michael Anthony and Sammy showed up, and there was no performance – a very sad affair indeed.
It is a travesty that the most influential progressive rock band of all time, YES, is not in the Hall of Fame. The musicianship of the band's members, both individually and collectively, far surpasses most of the inductees. In addition, they are still touring, selling out venues, and writing and recording new music. Most of the recent inductees to the Hall of Fame cannot carry the gear for YES.
I still dont understand how of the singer/songwriters that are in Neil Diamond is not in. He still putting out albums and is one of the top grossers touring each year. The man was a pop hit machine let alone the songs he wrote for others.
They really need to rename it to the Music Hall of Fame instead of Rock&Roll when you let in groups like ABBA, Run DMC, Simon & Garfunkel, Grandmaster Flash, Madonna etc etc etc . Seriously, this is truly ridiculous and I guess rock and roll is one thing I had hoped to stay idealistic with. What a sham to hijack rock and roll and have rap, pop and other watered down genres masquerade as rock. I wish Paul Allen would expand the EXP in Seattle to encompass actual rock legends beyond Jimi. I suspect he wouldn't allow the Velveeta in.....
Iron Maiden yes they should be in there, same goes for Alice Cooper and Rush. Don't think Iron Maiden will ever get in due to them not getting much radio play. Also to the person who said Guns N' Roses, they should be in but they have not come to their 25 years yet I think they need about 3 more years if I'm correct.
Not everyone has to play "Rock and Roll" to be inducted, really its just the big influences of the the rock/pop music indistry. Unfortunitly many great artists who deserve to be in there will never end up getting in. It should have nothing to do with how many albumbs have been sold or how popular they are but that will never happen. It should go by who has influenced rock.
Todd Rundgren – Hello it's me, I saw the Light, Bang the Drum. Record producer for Meatlaof, Grand Funk Railroad, Patti Smith, New York Dolls, XTC, Cheap Trick...to name a few!
even though r&r is not my first preference (it's my mother's though and it'd be my 2nd), i agree that the artists and groups who do not actually perform that genre of music should not be inducted. i prefer rap/hip-hop/r&b, but i know that public enemy should not be in the r&r-h-o-f. They are not r&r at all. they are some of the first pioneers of the rap game, so i dont believe they should be in if it causes other great artists and groups to be ommited. most of the groups i like today still have years before they are even elligible, but i can name so many that need to go including, but not limited to, nirvana, def leapord, metallica ( i heard they got in this year), RedHotChiliPeppers, guns and roses, etc.
im only going to say it once....
CHICAGO.
Whoever said Yes invented progressive rock is wrong – they followed the Moody Blues, Genesis, Jethro Tull and Pink Floyd, who all burst on the scene around 1967.
Here is the complete list:
rockhall.com/inductees/alphabetical/
Tom Waits, Husker Du
I agree with almost everyone's submissions, especially for Chicago, Boston, .38 Special and most especially Heart. I think Heart qualifies with the fact that they were ground-breakers for women & R&R. And, they're truly ROCK, not "bubble gum" pop music.
We all have favorites & could probably do a very good job at writing a short qualifier for each of them on why they should be inducted in the R&R HOF. Unfortunately, not all of them will get in. I don't even know if there is any criteria in writing that qualifies one musician/band over another. It would be nice to see it if it does exist.
One act I would like to offer is what is called the 'classic lineup' of Australia's Little River Band. I realize I may be the only one that offers up LRB to be inducted into the HOF, but here's MY qualifier: They were the first to break through from Australia & be successful in the international market while remaining based in Australia, unlike most acts from Oz at that time. I say 'classic lineup' as that includes the 4 co-founding members, 3 of who were the vocalists & songwriters that created their sound (1975-1981 & 1988-1990). I realize they'll likely be lumped together with The Eagles, maybe Journey, & other pop acts who could also rock and may never be able to distinguish themselves enough to get the HOF Induction. But, I also wanted to distinguish them from the 'wanna-be' Little River Band that no original member is a part of today, who are now based in the U.S. & who's 4th lead guitarist "owns" the TM, managing the band from Ireland & no longer tours with the group.
I do hope some of everyone's faves gets inducted sooner than later!
I noticed your post. One of the LRB classic lineup is actually a family member. We are working hard to get them in. Keep your fingers crossed!
dave Mathews Band should make it, thats real music
Not having Judas Priest in the HOF makes the whole thing a sham
Steppenwolf: purely on the strength of “Born To Be Wild” and “Magic Carpet Ride” alone – these guys wrote the blueprint for every American hard rock/Psychedelic/ Blues rock act to follow…Also where’s Blue Oyster Cult and the J. Geils Band? The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame remains a corporate good ol’ boys club. I’m glad Iggy gave them all The Finger last night…
Foregner...'nuff said.
The selection process has been a sore spot since the HOF was established. I go back to the roots of R&R and, for me, no Connie Francis, no Neil Sedaka, amazes me. No Olivia Newton-John? These folks have sold more records than just about anyone on that list; the first two are icons of R&R, yet those who have had perhaps two or three charted Billboard hits are somehow in the HOF. I can't understand the criteria used. If it's sales, then these three–and others who have stood the test of time–deserve to be in.
As Someone else said on here the HOF.. is a JOKE!!!! Looks at the list of Bands / Artists that are NOT in there and tell me how this whole this is not a Joke. Every time i read stuff about the inductions and who is in and who did not make it I just laugh and shake my head. I am a musician and I just can't buy into this HOF BS. Sad really that it truly is not about the influence or music at all.
RUSH!
An Unbelievable Talent for over 30 years.
How are bands/artists voted in to the Hall of Fame?
Rush has been overlooked for far too long.
Not a bit surprised...why should the R&R Hall of Shame be any different than any other band of nominating fools. Look the the cover of Time magazine, the Nobel Prize record of incredulity. Nothing suprises me anymore.
To Chuck: Glad to hear another Doobies vote.
Chicago-Absolutely! Chicago's "25 or 6 to 4" KICK-ASS guitar by Terry Kath. What a great song about staying up all night trying to write a song.(Oh, WOW. SO that's what that song's about) (Listen to the lyrics)
Hey, Wally? Jimi Hendrix IS IN THE ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME
Iron Maiden should be in there. They were a big influence on the New Wave of British Metal.
hello!!
Diana Ross as a solo artist.........and a template of has come after her.
people let's stop the disrespect. Oh and how about the Lifetime Grammy before she croaks.....
The biggest snubs for me, being a punk fan...Bad Religion and Social Distortion. They've been eligible for quite some time now....I can't wait until they get some recognition
The selection process is a total joke and totally dependent on the HOF committee's (and Wenner's) favorites. I couldn't believe it took Van Halen a few shots to get in when Eddie is one of the most influential guitarists ever. Why are bands like the Dave Clark Five and the Stooges in before bands like the Cars, Rush and The Smiths? C'mon commitee, stop choosing your teenage favorites and obscure (but admitedly cool) artists like Patti Smith.
YES !!!!!
I hope you folks are kidding about the Bon Jovi! Record sales aren't the criteria for induction- it's more intangible. They've already received the prize for selling millions of records- it's called MONEY!
Many deserving on this overlooked list, but the Moody Blues are most overlooked – should have been in years ago as pioneers of alternative & progressive rock genre. I was happy to see Genesis inducted finally as well, so maybe there's a small crack in recognizing this area, with the Moodies, Tull, Yes, Rush, ELO, ELP to follow? We'll see.
Bon Jovi probably deserves it more than most of the artists listed. How many albums have they sold?
WILLIAM SHATNER.
Rock n Roll would not exist had we not been blessed with his mind numbing version of "Mr. Tamborine Man"
And just think, the HoF is already so LAME that if they add William Shatner they can have Trekky conventions in the same building!
What about Iron Maiden????
What amazes me more than the groups that have been snubbed are some of the groups that get in. Rock and Roll has been watered down to include all kinds of non-rock music. I don't want to point anyone out specifically but if you go to the record store and the group isn't in the "Rock" section then they shouldn't be in the R&RHOF.
I don't want Rush anywhere near that joke called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It truly is a joke. They're better than that.
But if the honor was based on merit and influence, then yes, they should be in there...along with The Pogues, Kiss (as much as I hate say it, cuz Kiss is lame), Tom Waits, Iron Maiden, The Smiths....all were/are influential.
RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!
Been together 30+ years.
20+ Studio albums.
Same 3 guys in the group.
Noted as influence by many other successful bands.
RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!
What about Pat Bentar? Thats a huge snub right along with Kiss
How about CONNIE FRANCIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If there is one type of person who rubs me the wrong way it is a Music Snob. Because some ‘critic” decides they dislike someone like “Journey” and love someone like “The Stooges”. Journey is out and The Stooges are in. Come on! The Stooges? 99.99999% of the American public could not even name one Stooge song. They have had literally no impact on culture other than Iggy Pop running around with no shirt singing terrible songs after popping some acid pills. Journey on the other hand has influenced so many more people.
Someone tell me how the Pretenders are in and someone like KISS is not. Is it because the Pretenders are such great musicians? Heck there are only two members that have been in the group more than 5 years. Has the Pretenders been any more than an opening? Seen them twice in concert opening for B52’s and ZZ Top. And the Pretenders belong in a smoky dive bar more than on stage with either of those two. KISS has made a great impact on culture. They have actually transcended beyond music.
The Rock in Roll Hall of Fame is a joke. It is about time that people revolt against the music snobs who are on a mission to get their record collections in the hall of fame. Speak for the masses….not the select few. Some say that the people have no business voting for Baseball All-star teams, the music snobs telling the public what is good music is even a bigger travesty.
i'm not a huge music fan but honestly, i thought the majority of these groups, especially KISS, were already in the R&R HOF...is it really that hard for them to get in there?
I can't believe Bad Company is not in there. At least they had the good sense to induct the Grateful Dead!
KI$$ is a mediocre band who had to wear costumes to get attention. They do not belong in the Rock and Roll hall of fame.
What about Kate Bush?
How about Dire Straits?
what about anvil
Alice Cooper invented shock rock. Any show that's a cross between comic book horror and over-the-top Broadway has to go back to Alice. KISS is the same way.
Deep Purple should be in there, as well as Yes, since they were big enough to get noticed, and their family trees are among the largest in rock. And name me an eighties metal guitarist (besides Satriani and Vai) who did NOT sound like Ritchie Blackmore at one point or another.
Snubbing the Chili Peppers is beyond criminal.
T.REX, Cheap Trick, The Cars, The Raspberries
The fact that Jethro Tull is not in the Hall destroys any credibility in the induction process. Shame on the so-called Hall of Fame!
The omission of Rush is simply tragic. Possibly the most influential progressive rock band ever, how on EARTH are they not in? And some of the acts that ARE in instead of bands like Rush and some of the others mentioned are just ludicrous. Blondie? Tom Petty? You've GOT to be kidding!!!!
and yeah the Beasties need to be in there.
Um, what about Joan Jett and the Blackhearts, and The Runaways. I can't believe she hasn't been inducted yet, what are they waiting for? They better not wait until all of these deserving inductees are dead. Good grief.
King Crimson. King Crimson. King Crimson.
Def Leppard, Heart, Bon Jovi, Iron Maiden.
But none of them will make it anytime soon, because the ROCK AND ROLL hall of fame is too busy inducting non ROCK acts like ABBA and Madonna.
Gene Simmons
Paul Stanley
Ace Frehley
Peter Criss
................................KISS!!!!!
No other ROCK group is more deserving and personifies R&R like them!
If it weren't for Alice Cooper, there would be no Kiss....
Well Rock and Roll wall of Fame or Shame,,, Marc Bolan, and T.REX were the biggest band around in the 70s, Marc gave way for punk rock to get on tv, if it was not for the Marc tv show, Billy Idol and the Gen X, would have got no where, shame for Boomtown Rats. Please Marc was a true Poet, and songwriter, a great performer, he loved his fans like no other. His music is a influence today, and his songs have been covered by other bands.SHOW SOME RESPECT AND HONOR TO A GREAT MAN. His music lives on, he deserves this, We his true fans ask that you please give T.REX the respect due to them and add them to the Rock and Wall Hall of Fame. We are waiting to see this, please don't make it the rock and roll hall of shame... Recy Kypri Downuner Australia
whoa, come on, britney spears? backstreet boys? i know they aren't eligible but they should supercede the rule, probably the greatest achievement towards human expression ever...ever.
DURAN DURAN – enough said
i guess it's now the bubble gum hall of fame. it is a joke!
the minutemen
Alice Cooper
MC5
Yes
Lester Bangs
Ike Turner (for Rocket 88 the first rock n roll record ever)
Herman's Hermits (the first of the British Invasion Bands)
Quicksilver Messenger Service (the earliest psychedelic bands)
Fairport Convention
Sandy Denny
the Flying Burrito Brothers
the Fugs
311 should be on that list
From my point of view, while there are groups as important outside this well-deserved award, prestige can never be The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
They lose.
At the end T & RHOF no category.
RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS!!!
They deserve it more then anyone for what they have created and what they still are creating. No one can touch or attempt to try to do what they have done.
They created a whole new sound and definitely need to be above the HOF!!!
Boggles my mind that bands like Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, Nektar and Captain Beyond haven't been inducted ages ago. But then, that's the music industry for you. They wouldn't know talent if it bit them!
The Cure, Cheap Trick, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Grand Funk Railroad, Moody Blues, Alice Cooper, Rush, Peter Gabriel, STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN.
Here's an education: If it wasn't for BLUES, there would be NO ROCK AND ROLL. Stevie Ray deserves to be in the Hall of Fame. Don't snub genres because YOU don't think it's "rock and roll"
Beastie Boys should be in there as well. Highly influencial all across the genres.
3 Dog Nght, Grand Funk Railroad, CCR, Bad Company and overall – any others over 25 yrs old whose music you still hear today listened with passion
I' m a baby boomer and the hof should have more of the roots and people you startedn tody groups:Niel Sedaka, Niel Diamond, James Brown and the Famous Flames, Tommy James and the Shondells, Jay and the Americans, along with Chicago and KISSand finally two young ladies who braved the way for today ladies, Lesley Gore,Connie Francis,
The Monkees – In 1967 The Monkees sold more records than the Beatles and the Rolling Stones combined. They were a huge influence in what "Music Television" would become. The Monkees deserve to be in the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame.
They Might Be Giants – The most successful "indie" rock band ever.
Weird Al Yankovi – yes, he parodies a lot of music...but he does his own songs as well and those songs are worth a chance.
what a load, ABBA,, douche rock, while steve miller and all the other greats listed above stand on the sidelines..
the hall of fame is a joke, run by weenies...
Whos next, glen campbell?
Tom Waits, The Smiths, Neil Diamond and Kraftwerk should be stone cold locks. A lot of the bands mentioned in the article will get their due in time.
Having Warren Zevon in would be nice as well. There's no denying that KISS, The Moody Blues, and Rush should be there already and will be soon enough. The Zombies may be worthy as well....
BTW – if you don't know who the Stooges are and how important they were in the early 70's laying the groundwork for punk, please go back into hiding with your 'Hi Infidelity' LP......
Rush, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple and KISS should all be in the Rock Hall.
Neil Diamond for sure. He continues to perform before packed audiences. This R&R Hall of Fame is a laugh.
Heart!!!! Ann Wilson's vocals alone should have put them in the rhof when they became eligable back in 2001
Chicago is the biggest selling band with a horn section of all time! They stand the test of time- still rocking today without Peter Cetera.
How could Rush, THE GREATEST BAND OF ALL TIME, NOT BE INDUCTED IN THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME?? D:
I think them bypassing major influences in music for obscure bands gives hope to other obscure bands out there. I'm gonna form a band, the Mighty Lemon Tree Caterpillars, and I'll mention the RHCP in my acceptance speech...
JAN & DEAN belong in the Hall.
Come on.
They helped to create the early "Surf Sound" of California and their popularity is still there.
After many hits and fans, please put Jan & Dean in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
George Vreeland Hill
THE MIRACLES ,Motown's first group, deserve to be in The Hall more than half the artists that are there .They are one of the most INFLENTIAL groups on the PLANET!! Over 50 of their songs have been copied and covered by SCORES of other artists... in EVERY MAJOR MUSICAL GENRE! Pop, Rock, Country, Reggae,MOR/Easy listening, Acapella, Grunge and Rap/Hip-Hop ... as well as Soul/R&B.
4 time GRAMMY HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES (The Miracles have more Grammy Hall Of Fame inducted songs than ANY other Motown group...more even than The Supremes and Temptations. They are on ALL THREE LISTS of the Top 100 Artists Of All Time: Vh-1's, ROLLING STONES, and BILLBOARD'S ...Three song's on ROLLING STONE'S list of The 500 Greatest Songs Of All Time ! They were a major influence on many British Invasion acts...THE BEATLES, STONES,HOLLIES , THE WHO,& THE ZOMBIES have all covered Miracles tunes...and The group even has a star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME... Motown's soul supergroup, The MIRACLES, have credentials many inducted artists CANT EVEN TOUCH.....They even gave a Royal Command Performance for Queen Elizabeth in 1968....Yet STILL NOT INDUCTED AFTER 23 YEARS !!!
Kiss,Alice,Yes,Boston,and many others deserve to be in the rock and roll hall of fame. The musicians and the fans should boycott the whole thing. The ceremony is not even in Clevland where the Hall of Fame is.
ALICE COOPER
I remember an Internet petition going around a couple years back for GFR, I don't think they're in yet............GRAND FUNK RAILROAD......without a doubt, one of the great classic rock bands!!
@ mick, watch your mouth about michael jackson !!!! he did more in 1 year for charity and people than you could in a LIFETIME !!!! YOU SUCk big time!!!!! JERK!!!!!!!!!!
Last time I checked it was the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and not the rap hall of fame why is Public Enemy even listed with their ignorant and racist music.
Trey wrote: March 15th, 2010 5:57 pm ET
My three.
The Police
Queen
Poison
Thats all I gotta say.
Um......Queen was inducted in 2001, The Police were inducted in 2003, and Poison aren't yet eligible. However, Poison is quite possibly the worst band of all time and will never be inducted.
Duh, Van Halen is in . . never mind my last post. But keep these in mind:
Styx
Boston
Kansas
The Runaways
Rush
Deep Purple. Over 100 million albums sold. Aside from Black Sabbath and Zep they had the greatest influence on Heavy Metal. Smoke on the Water is to the 20th century what Beethoven's fifth was to the 19th, the most recognizable riff.
PS. The Stooges were to Punk what Purple was to Metal.
The Funk Brothers – Motown's house band, has more Number 1 hits than Michael Jackson, Madonna, Elvis and The Beatles combined.
The Pixies
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Public Enemy
Kiss
It dumbfounds me that The Runaways, Styx and Van Halen are rarely (if ever) mentioned when it comes to the Hall of Fame – and each of them absolutely deserve it.
Maybe it depends on the the HOF comittee's definition of Rock and Roll. In which case, I have no problem with metal acts not being in the same HOF as Madonna and ABBA. While I think they should be in the Pop Music Hall of Fame, I disagree mightily that they should be in this particular HOF...unless, of course, the point is that the RnR HoF *is* the Pop Music HoF under another name.
In any case, I really don't care about who's in that Hall of Fame. I care about who influenced me to get into music. Those people will always be in the most important Hall of Fame: My playlist.
Johnny and Edgar Winter
Todd Rundgren
James Gang
Tommy Bolin
Rick Derringer solo and the McCoys
Frank Marino
Alice Cooper should have been in a long time ago. In both the current form and the original band, Alice Cooper was a groundbreaking act. C'mon, there isn't a person around that hasn't been to school and doesn't know what song is played at the end of every school year! But using makeup, theatrics, and having a #1 album in Billion Dollar Babies – yeah, Alice Cooper is the biggest snub on the list.
Wow a lot of opinions here. Does it really matter? The HOF clearly has arbitrary rules about acceptance, so how can what they decide have any relevance? The best way to praise a band is by buying their music and going to their concerts; I'm sure they care about that more than a HOF induction.
A comment about a comment. Not sure if its intentional, but the comment:
I don't even kike KISS.... May just be a typo, but an interesting typo given the religious background of the two leaders of the band.
I don't understand something, Abba was inducted in the Hall of Fame but they mostly did disco songs – not knocking it. Madonna got in but she did a lot of dance tunes. So how come Donna Summer the Queen of Disco was not inducted. If it was not for Donna there would not be a Madonna or any acts like her. They said she did not get in because she does disco but she was the first female to win an grammy for female rock artist. She is not a one hit wonder nor did she have top 50 hits. She number one songs on both r&b and pop charts, plenty of top ten hits. And plenty of awards and have influenced a lot of singers. Shouldn't she also be part of the Hall of Fame?? And what happened to Doobie Brothers, Chicago, the Zombies and Spinners??
The fact that Chicago has been overlooked for so many years should give you an idea of the credibility that the R & R Hall of Fame has–NONE!
the replacements,the replacements,and the replacements..
Jethro Tull, of course!
The Rock N Roll Hall of Fame isn't a real Hall of Fame.
Fans, who are the real judges of music have no say in who gets inducted.
,Record sales and concert attendance are the real hall of fame.
Music snobs (like many posting here) are people with little affinity for anything they can't understand, which seems to be a great deal of things based on the postings here and on those who vote for the RnR Hall inductions.
Nothing wrong with Abba but they are Disco= R&B not RnR
Nothing wrong with Genisis or the others, but what makes a person or band deserve recognition for their career?
Is it sales, concert attendance, influence on other musicians and society? I've heard of the Holly's but couldn't tell you a single song they've done. I've heard of the Stooges and couldnt' for the life of me, name one song of theirs, I've hear dof Jimmy Cliff and I think he did "I can See Clearly Now", I've heard of Genesis and heard their songs but I know them because of Phil Collins not Genesis, I've heard of Abba and was a fan in the 70's and had one of their albums.
Nothing makes any of these musicians worthy of our recognition for a great career in my book, but their fans I'm sure will disagree with me and rightfully so.
If you don't like KISS, so what? They don't need your approval or the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, they are rockin all over the world after 35 years, selling millions of albums and selling out arenas world wide. Name the last time any of tonight's Hall Inductees did any of that...
Don Van Vliet
a.k.a. Captain Beefheart
Trout Mask Replica and Safe as Milk...two classic records from one of the true innovators of the new wave and punk movement ten years before it happened. He's still not in the hall of fame, largely because he never sold anything.
Chicago during their early years were a band to be respected not only for their unique style (horn section) mixed with rock, but also for the messages their songs conveyed. Hall & Oates are the most successful musical duo and should have already been inducted.
Quite the reponse! It was summed ealier in this post. The HOF is Jan Wenner's private groveling tool. As far as I am concerned he can take the HOF and Rolling Stone (which I haven't read in in years) and shove them.
If Chicago and Rush do not belong as well as Peter Gabriel as an individual artist, then NOBODY does!
Here's Wenner for you. Rolling Stone writes a critical article in 1971 esentially trashing the Allman Brothers. Then Duane is killed before it's published. So the week he dies Wenner publishes the article and then one PRAISING the Brothers in the same issue.
He was classless then and he is classless now.
A huge snub is Jethro Tull
Iggy Pop
Brian Eno
Depeche Mode
Duran Duran
Donovan
The Monkees!
Wouldn't it be great that if the RRHOF powers that be read this forum?Maybe they'd have a clue.
Some of these artists do need to be included, but I think some really do not. I think the Cure and T. Rex should be, for besides popularity, they were at the forefront of a new type of Rock. (Gothic and Glam, respectively) However, Journey, Foreigner? As popular as these groups were, they certainly were not trailblazers and were a part of the "herd" of popular groups out at that time. Hot Chili Peppers, I think, will find their way into the Hall, it's just a matter of time and perspective. I would certainly, however, like to see bands of solid substance, though while not popular, had what I believe are integrity, ability (singing, song writing, guitar playing) and cult status. I believe that Hall should nominate native sons, Guided By Voices. In my humble opinion, the best American Rock band to ever exist.
Leslie West, one of the all time great hard rock pioneer guitarists. Best known for Mississippi Queen. Did more for the Les Paul sound than any living or dead guitarist in the past 40 years. One of the all time greatest at guitar tone and vibrato in the business.
Mountain including Leslie on axe, Felix Pappalardi (bass player), and Corky Laing on drums.
Tommy James/Shondells sold more records in one year than half the bands in the RR HOF did in their entire careers. This is the biggest snub.
Rush is the biggest omission by far. Here's your list for who to induct next year because you can't get it right on your own.
Rush
Journey
Red Hot Chili Peppers
XTC
Stevie Ray Vaughn
And put Albert Lee in as a Sideman.
How bout NOFX?
SLAYER
Little Stevie Van Zant has said basically 'rock and roll is in serious trouble'. The list of bands making the HOF and 95% of other bands listed in these comments do not play rock and roll, rather, what we used to call bubblegum. Insipid, shallow garbage that yes, got lots of air time and sold lots of records, but so did Donny Osmand and the Partridge Family. Wake up people. It's ain't about the # of records sold, it's about the music.....and what I've heard for the last 25 years for the most part ain't R&R. Long Live the Boss
i love THE CURE!!!
My top five should-be-in-alreadys: Neil Diamond (for the songwriting as much as the performing): KISS (for the showmanship); Kraftwerk (seminal figures in everything from electronica and house to rap - Afrika Bambaata's "Planet Rock" is built on a riff from "Trans Europe Express"); New Order (the bridge between punk and dance – and if you can slip Joy Division in there, all the better); and Roxy Music (for Bryan Ferry's style, Brian Eno's musicianship, and the bridge between glam rock and modern dance).
I don't count Public Enemy as a snub yet; they'll get in, maybe next year with the Beastie Boys. That oughta be a ceremony!
The Stooges and Talking Heads ahead of Black Sabbath, Kiss, ELO and Motley Crue? So much for any credibility of the RRHOF. What a joke.
Heart for sure! Come on....Ann Wilson has THE BEST rock pipes around!
i love THE CURE, their music has been very influential to most of the artists now.
Most of these groups were popular because most rock fans know squat about music. For example, KISS sucked big time! In fact, there was never a popular band that sucked more than KISS. As musicians, KISS was worthless! Then there is Bon Jovi, who I knew in high school. How the hell he got popular I will never know. He was very, very average... but he knew how to act "cool", so the gullible young fans bought it. So, these people all sucked!
Dick Dale.
Hall and Oates? This is the Rock and Roll HOF, not the namby-pamby HOF.
Abba is not rock n roll. You might as well induct Barry Manilow. How about THE RUNAWAYS! DEVO? GARY GLITTER?
Definitely the Moody Blues, also the Michael Stanley Band.
The HOF should be based on all around contributions to the movement of Rock and Pop music. The Stooges are a good band but to say they have contributed more to music than KISS, Chicago, or Rush is rediculous. Popularity has a lot to do with it. Ask someone to name their favorite Stooges song and they'd say "Who?" Ask them their favorite KISS song or Chicago song. You'll get a hundred different answers because the choices are so vast. I was truly surprised at most of the names on the "not in yet" list. Almost all of those names should be in already.
Definately the Moody Blues, also the Michael Stanley Band.
How E.L.O. has never been mentioned, especially Jeff Lynne, is a disgrace.Jeff lynne has a catalogue as big as his bank account, apart from his work with E.LO. he has worked with about every musician in the music industry includind Travellin Wilburies. but this music genius continues to get ignored cause he seems to be a down to earth guy who has never forgotten his roots and prefers to stay out of the gossip columns and keep in touch with the world through his music.
RUSH,DEEP PURPLE,BLACK SABBATH,ALICE COOPER,SUPERTRAMP,BOWIE and BOSTON ,,,,i guess rock supergroups of the 70's don,t count,,,,with tens of millions of records sold and millions of fans that still listen to thier music some 35 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,
I am not moderating my comment. The Moody Blues need to be included as a seminal, progressive rock band. They are still filling concert halls today. You need to only attend one of their concerts and hear the sold-out audiences singing along witth them to understand.
Four decades of hits, sold-out concerts????? What the heck is wrong with RRHOF????
C
Suprised !!!!!!!!! Like any other elitest group the rock and role hall of fame doe's the same bull shit as the oscars. It makes me sick that we dont count! The actual fans........................
GG Allin – true scum. Until he is inducted, they have no right to even call it the R'n'R Hall of Fame!!!
Bad religion
the inverness oysters the best band ever.
No one on this list deserves to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. These are all second and third tier acts. Let's keep the RRHOF for the best.
Geez! I can't seem to get my comments in here. I'm sure they don't want them. The MOODY BLUES, stupid! They were one of the most influential bands ever! They are one of the best in concert, with or without a symphony & they still can rock with the best of them. Chicago, one of the best. Neil Diamond, the man puts on a show that few can surpass. Rush, OK, Rush too. Foreigner, absolutely. The policital infuences of Rolling Stone aren't helping at all!!!!! Rock & roll is many things to many people: emotional, spiritual, joyous, angry, loving, sometime rolled up into one ball. If you've ever seen Alice Cooper in concert, you know this too be true. I will never set foot in the hall of fame until (at the very least) all of these groups mentioned are inducted. My dollars will not support this endeavor until all who deserve to be there, are there. Let's get them before they die, shall we?
RUSH!!!!!!!!!!!
Get Rush in the hall. Journey and KISS also!
The problem with this outfit is that it only inducts 5 per year...think about that....just 5 per year. They had better way roll up that amount to catch up...say at least 10 to 12 a year. Think if the Academy Awards or any honorary body just gave out 4 awards a year. It's a joke. At this rate the Hall of Fame will never, ever, ever catch up.
Why does it need to be moderated??? I said nothing offensive, only the truth. C
In any hall of fame that I know of, the key to getting inducted or even nominated is popularity or your skill. In the case of the RRHoF, great bands such as Rush, Kiss, Journey and others that have truly made their mark on the industry and put out songs that kids are still listening to years after they were released, are passed over. In this age of automation, possibly the RRHoF Director should automate the voting to allow the fans to vote. Just my suggestion.
What??!!! No Alice Cooper? Kiss? Deep Purple? The Cars? Seriously??? What the H&LL?!!!
How about inducting Hawkwind, DOA, Stone The Crows and Lindisfarne?
Rush! by all means. They have endured DISCO, glam rock, punk rock and have forged a unique sound that has matured over the 30 years of recording. Their concerts inspire fans around the world. Check out Rush Live in Rio if you doubt it. Compared to the lightweights they induct based on a few years career, Rush is easily the most glaring snub.
I love, love, love, Public Enemy, but their first album came out in 87. I don't think they are eligible for the hall of fame.
Why in the wrld aren' t the Moody Blues included? Over forty years of the greatest rock music and they are left out. The RRHOF is a joke if it continues on this path.
C
3 words:
TOWER OF POWER !
40+ years & still bumpin'
How about Grand Funk Railroad – We're an American Band, Closer to Home/I'm Your Captain.
Hall & Oates has been passed over time and time again. What gives with the HOF????
And Alice Cooper was a phenomenon in the 70's into the 80's. Who votes on these decisions?? I think the people should be voting. They're the true and loyal fans!!!!
The whole R&R HOF system is ludicrous. The most pathetic thing about this whole story is that their opinion even still matters.
Blow up the whole system and start again...
Neil Diamond
Peter Gabriel
Rush
deep purple had hits in 3 DECADES.......and influenced generations of bands and guitarists. the hof is a joke......the pretenders before dp, yes, king crimson, chicago, ect.
Mitch Ryder and the Detroit Wheels
Heart and Chicago are the biggest snubs on that list, but there is a long list of folks that deserve induction more than many folks already in the hall – including pretty much the entire list (Public Enemy has NO busines in the Rock and Roll HOF, but I could picture folks thinking they deserve to be in a Rap HoF.)
I have to disagree with Stevie Ray though – he was one of the greats of the Blues, but he wasn't Rock and Roll at all. Definitely a "must have" for the Blues Hall of Fame though (but I guess there isn't one, so I wouldn't complain about him getting into the RnR one instead given all of the connections between Rock and the Blues).
ABBA is often underrated by US folks – they were HUGE in Europe, and had some very good songs hidden among the pop pap.
To date, no Link Wray, King Crimson, Billy Preston, Leon Russell and countless others who may not have sold large numbers of records, but were essential in the development of Rock & Roll. These are the true heros of music and those that have been genuinely snubbed.
Honestly (I'll stick my neck out here), most of those listed in the above article, sold HUGE numbers of records, but otherwise added very little to the life and development of music. Not to say we didn't enjoy the music at the time, but historically many are insignificant and did not inspire in the long run (think Hootie and the Doobie Bros). Foreigner? Come on!
Come on guys! What is the some sort of political statement? Obviously the publishers of the Rolling Stone are hypocrites. They think they know Rock & Roll, but they don't. Rock & roll is emotional, spiritual, angry, giddy, loving. I'm ashamed of them for not inducting
Neil Diamond, the MOODY BLUES!!!!!, Chicago. ALICE COOPER!!!!, Foreigner, et. al. Let's get some of them in before they die for heaven's sake. Doesn't the public's heart mean anything? We want all of the "unsung" bands in there! It's the only way I'd pay the price of admission to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame! Doesn't mean anything if they're not there!!!!!!
RUSH!!! Truely THE progressive rock band that set the standard for future progressives such as Dream Theater. Jaco Pastorius and Neil Pert are both Hall of Famers in their own instrument category. What more do they want?
i don't know why i'm really bothering to address this issue, except it is obvious that corp. music has finally won. they say if you live long enough you will see everything. i walked a mile to the nearest record store to buy the first two r&r 45rpm records (that's where R&R began).
they were School Days by Chuck Berry and All Shock Up by Elvis. it was a time of musical rebellion that what R&R is and has alway been.
I guess every thing sells out sooner or later.
Buy abba, that's not rock.
where's tyler durdan when you need him?
Boston isn't even on the snub list.....
Are the Sex Pistols in? I know Joy Division isn't. Joy Division, more than any other band, was responsible for New Wave and Goth.
"Smoke On The Water" changed everything. Until they induct Deep Purple, Cleveland is hosting the Hall of Lame.
As much I enjoyed growing up with ABBA, I wholeheartedly agree they don't merit consideration into the "R&R HOF". With that said, if anyone thinks ABBA was just bubblegum pop, think again. They were HUGE overseas. Their pop sound had such an artistic flair few groups could ever match on a grand scale. And they sold 370 million albums worldwide. Only 2 acts have sold more ever ; care to guess who they were?
BEASTIE BOYS, BEASTIE BOYS, BEASTIE BOYS
If the Hall of Fame had been in DETROIT like it was originally supposed to be then none of these WIMPY IMBECILES like abba would ever have been inducted.
Cleveland was the wrong place to put the HoF, they WIMPED it out.
Here's two MANDATORY artists that need to be inducted immediately or I will single-handedly beat the sh!t out of everyone in Cleveland just for the fun of it.
STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN & DOUBLE TROUBLE
MITCH RYDER & the DETROIT WHEELS
RUSH
If the hall stands for musical integrity, influence across generations, and stellar songs, than please explain how such a dynamic band has not been inducted. By the way, so many bands that are members have sparce bodies of work while RUSH has a library of hits and gold/platinum records. Doesn't anyone find it pathetic when you watch the inductions and can barely recognize any songs from some of the inductees? C'mon folks, open your eyes. Please, please, please ... WAKE UP and place RUSH where they should be!
PS: CHEAP TRICK have written some of the greatest rock songs of the last 30 years. They have never been given the respect that they so truly deserve. If you ever want to see an amazing live act, they still kick butt!
Rush, The Cars, Def Leppard, Boston, Foreigner, Pat Benatar, Iron Maiden, Chicago, Journey, Styx, Queensryche, Duran Duran, Rick Springfield...I mean the list goes on and on here. These are bands and artists that dominate rock radio to this very day and I am just touching the surface. Rush stands out for obvious reasons...they have sold 40 million records worldwide, 6 million dvd's world wide, and play to a minimum of 10,000 people to this very day every show with very little support still from radio.
Bryan Adams is another one who comes to mind and Yes.
In order:
Moody Blues
Neil Diamond
Jethro Tull
3 Dog Night
Chicago
Guess Who
The problem is not the inductees but rather the NAME of the award.It should be called something like " the popular music hall of fame"
I read an interesting article not too long ago from a former RnR HOF voter (a music critic) who said Wenner basically controls the whole process and decides who gets in and who doesn't. Apparently the votes don't mean much since Wenner will simply change the results to suit his taste and/or goals. The guy who wrote the article removed himself from the HOF voting committe out of disgust with the whole procedure.
KISS!!!!!!! and RHCP
The Cure!!
The way I see it, the ROH is pretty much a who's who of crappy music. NOT getting inducted is the real honor. I'm sorry to see Genesis inducted, but I'm sure it' on the 'merit' of their bubble gum 'Mama' days. I'm happy if Rush, Yes, King Crimson, Jethro Tull, ELP, Gentle Giant, etc... don't get inducted – they are all far, far better than the likes of Madonna and Abba and deserve to be amongst better company.
The Cure, E.L.O, Depeche Mode, Cheap Trick, Bad Company not in come on already. You can leave Kiss out for now but someday they'll make it. Oh and Rush needs to be in for sure right now. Foreigner no, Journey, I guess. Echo & The Bunnymen, The English Beat and The Jam! Where are they?
I think every band ever in existence should be in HOF...............
Yawn .............
Joe Jackson....long over due!!
All together now, RUSH got screwed!!!!
chicago's first six or seven albums are incredible, just listen to their first song ever, "introduction", which laid the groundwork for all to follow. Warren Zevon should also be included, if for notheing else than "lawyers, guns, and money"
DEF LEPPARD, RUSH, KISS, ALICE COOPER AND JOURNEY – They should all be in the Rock n Roll hall of fame. Alice Cooper should already be in there wtf!
Stevie Ray Vaughan. Here was a talent of epic proportion. This guys talent is on par with Hendrix. If not greater. (No disrespect to Mr. Hendrix)
Stevie is one of the greats when it comes to what's possible with a guitar. The perfect blend of art and engineering.
Dick Dale should definitely be inducted.
And before he dies!
Both Duane Eddy and the Ventures are in already,
and Dick should have been ahead of them, imho.
It's a shame that Irish Guitar Legend and true bluesman, Rory Gallagher has not been inducted.
I truly believe that any band inducted into the hall should be able to play live . . . I heard KISS twice at the Swing Auditorium in San Bernardino in the 70's and they truly sucked . . . they were one of the worst bands that I have ever heard live. At this time I was not even familiar with the phrase "lyp synch" and "pre-recorded" but I left both of the concerts convinced that KISS was cheating . . . and not even cheating very well. I challenge Simmons to refute my allegation . . . they were using pre-recorded music at those concerts. Rock n' Roll is a lot more than high heels and makeup–even though Bowie has proved that those can be cool–and KISS never went beyond. Thanks, Ken V.
KISS can't get in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Un-F-Believable
Again, I don't even own a KISS record but this is like Liberace and Lawrence Welk being denied entrance into the Schmaltz Hall of Fame
Rush
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Kiss
SLAYER!!!
Maybe not as popular a choice in the States, in regards to record sales, but as far as their contribution to music, how about the Smiths?
How many bands have we seen since who were influenced by them?
And surely the Cure deserve recognition too. In fact, the Hall better start getting busy inducting a few more bands before some of them are too old to play at the induction. Rockers with walkers just doesn't work!
Steve Miller Band
I agree groups like the mentioned
March 15th, 2010 9:55 pm ET
Little Feat
Dire Straits
J. Geils Band
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jethro Tull
Moody Blues
Rush
And 70s successes like America who just came out with a CD
with Fountains of Wayne and Smashing Pumpkins players producing it – Check out letterman America ryan adams and ben kweller for the song Ride on.. They are still paying for Muskrat Love – they are a great group.
The Doobies Brothers – Tom Johnston led especially
1. Rush – It's a disgrace how this band isn't in Hall. They STILL sellout arena's around the world with no opening band and play 3 hours sets. They have one of the greatest drummer, bass player, and guitar player in the world.
2. Iron Maiden – These guys are one of the top shows who still sellout arenas. Great live shows and musicians.
3. Judas Priest – The God Father's of Heavy Metal. And...they may never get in at this rate.
4. KISS – Okay Gene Simmons is annoying with his marketing stuff...but c'mon!!!
hmmm...there are some really good groups there, but none who I think are worthy.,,Loved Chicago, ELO, Alice Cooper, etc...okay...lots of them had some great songs, but are they worthy of the HOF? I don't think so...we need to reaccess Red Hot Chili Peppers but in a couple of years though. Someone mentioned Dire Straits and Jethro Tull? Love them! I think I need to find out who is in the RRHF before I make any final decisions.
Hanson! Come on mmm bop and where's the love...
Jethro Tull hands down should be in the hall. Not only did they create unique music, but they put on one of the best live shows I've ever seen...and I'm 23 and obviously didn't get a chance to see them in their prime. Red Hot Chili Peppers easily are one of the best bands in the last couple of decades, they deserve it.
While I agree that most acts like Madonna and ABBA should be in some other hall of fame, and that the hall has really gone astray in the caliber of performer that is inducted, I think that the hall was put in place with good intentions; I mean look at the first class that was inducted (Buddy Holly, Aretha, etc.), those were the people that embodied the foundations of rock and roll as it stands today and how it was in the "good ol' days." It's just sad to see how warped things have become since.
Never was that big a fan, but KISS?
Give us a break
I doubt any other band mentioned has actually performed before as many people ( who go totally WILD by the way) as that band has. They are definitely more FAMOUS than anyone else on the list. So, if you want to call it the Hall of FAME, they have to get in, Period.
Abba is in but RUSH is not? This is a disgrace.
These would have been in years ago if the voters weren't idiots:
RUSH
YES
King Crimson
Jethro Tull
DEVO
Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer and the Moody Blues
AC DC! AC DC! AC DC! I know their already in, but still AC DC! AC DC! AC DC!
1. Rush – It's a disgrace how this band isn't in the Hall. They STILL sellout arena's around the world with no opening band and play 3 hour sets!!!! One of the greatest drummers, bass player, and guitar player in the world.
2. Iron Maiden – One of the most influential bands in Heavy Metal and best live shows for a touring band. Not a lot of radio play but you can't deny their influence.
3. Judas Priest – In my opinion, the band responsible for Heavy Metal as we know it.
amen, tommy, to warren zevon and tom waits...they more than deserve a spot in the HOF...and to those who are lobbying for the elevator-rock hall of famers like rush and chicago but don't know who the stooges are?...it's people like you who make the R&RHOF a joke. I do agree with whomever it was that said Rolling Stone has had a major part in the suppression of metal and punk bands, which is unfair to say the least, but can't really say that honoring "blues musicians instead" is accurate (though it is insulting)–blues music was a major influence on the music we call rock & roll today. honoring blues artists is simply paying homage to the roots of rock.
Been following Chicago since their first release as CTA in 1968. I remember the first time I saw them at a club on Long Island. I got into a fight in the mens room that Terry Kath was a better guitarist than Jerry Garcia.....dumb comparison. But wake up HOF....Jimi Hendrix said Terry Kath was better than he was. Whether that's true or not, he could rock. The first 7 albums by CHICAGO were classics. Yeah they went commercial and maybe sold out but they were incredible. As a hugh fan, they still are. I have seen them well over 100 times and they keep my memories alive and fresh. Long live this great rock band. I thank them for being part of my youth.
Off my CHICAGO soapbox........how about getting in some other bands that are naturals........The Moody Blues, The Doobie Brothers, Yes, ELO, Grand Funk Railroad
Once again.....WAKE UP ROCK & ROLL HALL OF FAME
Put ALL those bands in... open up a new wing
The Moody Blues have been around longer than any of the others, and the number one all time drawing group, mainly because they've never stopped touring or recording and sold out at almost every venue. Too many one hit wonder bands have been inducted and so many other quality groups including ELO, Journey, Chicago, to mention a few. I think the selection committee should stop smoking whatever it is they're smoking.
I like to think they won't induct the Chili Peppers for while. When your last album debuted at No. 1 and won the Grammy for best rock album, you're not ready for a nostalgic "trip down memory lane." They'll be in there for sure though, twenty seven quality years, seven Grammy's, 8 top forty hits, 3 top ten hits, and fifty-five million albums don't lie.
yes, these are all rock and roll bands, unlike grandmaster flash, abba, johhny cash, bonnie raitt, the jacksons, miles davis, pearcy sledge, prince, isaac hayes, earth wind and fire, booker t, ruth brown, the suppremes. could somebody please let bono know that these artists are mostly r&b and have nothing to do with rock and roll...
The Guess Who should be in the RnR hall of fame
How about Scorpions ?
The Wilson sisters are in a league of their own – Ann arguably has one of the greatest voices I’ve ever heard – pure, effortless and powerful.
Rush is a band of virtuoso musicians – Amazing sound for a best 3 piece band – No other 3 piece compares. Neil Peart, Alex Lifeson and Geddy Lee are all masters of their instruments and have put out outstanding material for decades – truly abhorrent that they are not in.
ABBA – PUKE!
Since so many asked who the Stooges are, google on them or Iggy Pop. They were VERY influential to a number of far more famous bands. I don't think the HOF is simply a popularity contest.
I agree that Rush and Yes are oversights...I hated Kiss, but I know a lot of people who were influenced by them. Chicago? I like them better than I liked Kiss, but not sure they belong.
BTW, Bon Jovi didn't usher in anything...glam had already been around for a while...see Bowie, Velvet Underground and yes, The Stooges.
Deep Purple. Although when I look at who has been inducted over the years, It is almost a badge of honor to be exempt from the company of many inducted but undeserved Hall of Famers.
Rush is THIRD of all rock bands in consecutive Gold albums. Despite their cultish following, they're one of the most consistently popular bands ever, with a fanatical following. Not to mention the virtuoso musicianship.
Not on the list, and has written and played with almost everyone in the HOF – Leon Russell
Springsteen has been inducted, but without E Street, and overlooking "the best-paid bar band in the world" is a huge screw-up. Anyone who's ever seen them live knows that Bruce wouldn't be Bruce without them.
Somebody please tell me why we need a Rock & Rock Hall of Fame anyway. Who cares?
Dire Straits! Mark Knopfler!
I realize this has already been said but I have to say it again.. ...and what about Jethro Tull, Emerson Lake and Palmer, Yes, And the other great talent of the Progressive Rock movement?
Wick, you nailed it on Genesis.
I have other bands in my list. Let's start with the best Heavy Metal band of all time IRON MAIDEN.
Even the writer snubbed the E Street Band. How can you have a Bruce Springsteen in the Hall without his band. Crazzzy
Guns n' roses next year!
PAUL REVERE & THE RAIDERS
GRAM PARSONS!
The biggest miss? I don't know. But I do know it's criminal not to induct Alice Cooper.
RUSH without a doubt,,,, But RUSH is to good for the R&R Hall of SHame
What about the B-52's? They have put out many albums, pretty much invented a completely new sound in rock, still get played on the radio and at parties all over the place, and just put out another totally respectable album a year ago, almost 30 years after their first album. They are a totally overlooked band for the Hall of Fame!
I can't believe Rush didn't make the cut. That's absurd.
After seeing ABBA make it, the question we should be asking is: IS THERE ANY CRITERIA FOR THIS RNRHF??? The name has "Rock n Roll", but if you ask people if Abba is a "Rock n Roll" band I bet 99 out of 100 answer that Abba is NOT a "Rock n Roll" band. People will say "Abba? Ohhh aren't they those chicks that sing 'Dancing Queen'? That really gay song from Mamma Mia??? What? They're a rock band???!"
RNRHF = Joke!!!! Someday, our kids will see Lady Gaga inducted to the RNRHF!
RNRHF, what a disgrace!!!!
SB
What about Aaron Neville and Leon Russell. This is a shame not to have these guys in the HOF. Its gotten to be so biased with all the record execs, etc on the selection committee... How can a group like the Stooges and the Pretenders get in.....the HOF is such BS.
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
There is no way in hell that Bon Jovi should be included. Their soulless, bland, corporate, we-are -not even-trying-or-feeling-this music is the worst of the worst of the worst. No way!
Enough complaining about ABBA. They belong. You couldn't make it through the 70's without them, and they have had a lasting influence.
I don't get the following artists being considered. Frampton? Hall & Oats, and Bon Jovi. Yes, Frampton Comes Alive is a classic, but there isn't much more to him. And I say that as a Frampton fan. Bon Jovi, yeah they are kind of big, and they have a loyal fan following. So does Eddie Money, who isn't considered.
I get some of the more obscure choices the Hall has made. It's not just about the amount of sales, or hits, they also include what their influence has been over time. Hell, Madonna is in my opinion an iffy choice. There isn't a lot of love still around for a song like Holiday, or Cherish. But there is no denying that she has had an influence on today's artists when you look at the Britney crowd. I don't think you can really say that about ELO, or Public Enemy (Yes, P.E., rap has gone a different direction from social commentary.)
And if you are looking more towards sales and hits. Weird Al Yankovic leads most of these artists. The band A-ha (yes, Take on Me, and yes, they are still around) Has sold more albums worldwide than Genesis and The Hollies, Jimmy Cliff, and the Stooges combined. I believe they've sold more than Genesis as well, but that's a guess. A-ha is certainly deserving on sales, hits, and reputation, even if none of those things were big in the USA. Will we ever see them in? Probably not. This is still a US/UK museum.
Of that list, T-Rex, Cheap Trick, Heart, Depeche Mode, and The Cure are the only ones who can really lay claim to being "snubbed." I do agree with some of the above posts though, I think left off from the list are definitely The Cars, and Yes.
Now the real snub. Why don't they do the inductions in Cleveland, you know, where the Rock Hall is located? That's the real snub.
WILLIAM SHATNER.....nuff said....his rendition of Mr Tamborine Man changed MILLIONS of lives forever.
What about the Jive Five? Or Tooshy Lagumba and his Steel Band?
But if we're gonna gripe about who isn't in the HOF yet, what about GRAM PARSONS?
Stevie Ray Vaughan. The best blues guitarist, if not the best overall guitarist, who ever lived not in the Hall? What are they thinking of overlooking this pure raw talent? The man poured his whole heart and soul into playing the guitar. The guitar was an extension of himself. He took a bad note and made it sound great. Shame on the Hall for not electing him. Elect SRV now!!!!!
The heavier side of rock is definitely way underrepresented:
Iron Maiden
Judas Priest
Deep Purple
Alice Cooper
By what criteria can these four NOT be in there? Huge album sales, influenced thousands of bands AND they continue to tour and record. Quite well too. (Well, except for Deep Purple.)
James Hetfield of Metallica said it's a joke that Maiden, Priest and Purple aren't in there. He knows his career would not have been possible without the breakthroughs those bands made.
I'm gonna throw roks threw yer winders!
its me its me its earnest t.!
hof has been a joke for years, its fitting they put crap like madonna,abba,i believe some rap people(nothing against rap, but it aint rock and roll), rolling stones overhyped pet springsteen(r.s. writer becomes stinksteen manager, all of a sudden massive media hype over hackneyed boring material). so moody blues,yes, deep purple, alice cooper group,guess who,joe cocker,leon russell,king crimson,black flag,dead kennedys......etc....i saw somebody mentioned creedence? they aren't in? no way that can be true...wow. i guess you have to suck **** of j. wenner. anybody seen rolling stone mag lately? truly pathetic
@Karl:
Rush sucks...anyone with AT LEAST half a functioning brain cell knows that. Clearly that means you have even less than half a functioning brain cell. My condolences on your lack of sense and taste.
Honestly, who cares about the rock 'n roll hall of fame? It's in Cleveland, fer chrissakes!
Todd Rundgren!
We've got Bruce – but where's The E Street Band?
KISS – NO
Depeche Mode – NO
The Cure – NO
Chicago- YES
Hall and Oates – NO
Rush – YES
Alice Cooper- Yes
Moody Blues – YES
E.L.O. – YES
Cheap Trick – NO
Bad Company
Peter Frampton – NO
Heart – NO
T-Rex – NO
Bon Jovi – NO
Journey- YES
Foreigner – YES
Public Enemy – NO
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – YES
It is a joke that a band such as ABBA gets inducted, yet Deep Purple & Rush are omitted. Two the of true "rock" bands and both were innovative. Working Man & Smoke On the Water. True rock "n" Roll Anthems!
How about Weird Al Yankovic? The man has been putting out hits for decades. He's copied so many styles perfectly. The Court Jester of Rock and Roll has endured when most comedy artists are one hit wonders. More than a few artists have said that they felt they really made it when Weird Al parodied their song...
To the Hall of Fame, read the memo - it is no longer cool to dis Ringo Starr. It has (at last!) been established that one need not be a technical wizard to be among the greatest rock 'n roll drummers of all time. His work will be studied, and copied, long after his critics' grandchildren have been forgotten.
I should have mentioned Hawkwind And DOA
The 'Rock & Roll Hall of Fame' is neither. 'nuff said.
There needs to be a serious examination of the nominating committee and the process used to pick eligible acts. I assume that Jann Wenner is a rather large part of the problem.
It would be nice to see more of a focus on historians and less emphasis on people whose knowledge of music is centered on top 40 radio.
The fact that Husker Du and the Replacements aren't in, but minor acts like the Hollies, the Rascals, Lovin' Spoonful, Mommas and the Papas, and the Dave Clark Five have been inducted points to a lack of seriousness on the part of some of the voters. "They had some nice songs I remember hearing on the radio" doesn't strike me as a legitimate reason to induct an act.
I will assume that ABBA's election was the result of some printing error on the ballot.
The Funk Brothers, the musicians who played on almost all of the great Motown hits. They may not have been well known, but their music is part of some of the greatest and influential hits of all time.
Jimmy Buffett ????? WTF !!
joan jett
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patti smith
Okay, believe it or not probably at least 75% of alternative bands playing today probably listened to the Stooges at least sometime in their life. They may not have sold like Kiss, but they were arguably more influential to music than Kiss has been. I'm grateful that the HOF isn't based on album sales (we already have the Grammys). I'd rather it be based on merit and the contribution of the group/individual to music. I think generally those who are in should be and those who aren't probably shouldn't be. Although I could see Rush, the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Public Enemy and The Cure getting in at some point, as they are all somewhat influential and not just chart toppers. The rest of the list is nothing more than a Billboard chart and honestly none of them have done anything that I'd listen to on a long car trip.
There are some amazing, true monsters of rock who happen to be session musicians. The door of the R&R HOF should be open for them too. Groundbreaking instrumentalist, incredibly talented, without whom some of the big stars would've never been as great. Some examples: Tony Levin (bass player for Peter Gabriel, Paul Simon), and Ray Cooper (percussions for Elton johm, Eric Clapton, Rod Stewart, etc)
RUSH
RUSH
RUSH
ABBA in the rock and roll hall of fame? then why not Pink Floyd in the rap hall of fame...Musicians with 40+ years in the buisness should be considered: YES, DEEP PURPLE, RUSH, ALICE COOPER, KISS
JETHRO TULL are just a few to mention...
Where's Gwar? (kidding)
Rush needs to be in there
Wasn't the point of this whole thing to bring tourists to the dying rust-belt town of Cleveland? And if that's the case, why are they going out of their way to irritate fans of established, popular bands with an obvious legacy in rock history? Weird.
Rory Gallagher, Heart, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Kiss, Cheap Trick, REO Speedwagon, Zppa, Rush, Ted Nugent, Styx, Kansas, Rainbow, Humble Pie, Boston, J. Geils Band, Doobie Brothers, Grand Funk, Mot The Hoople, Uriah Heep, ELO, ELP, BOC, ZZ TOP, Black Oak Arkansas, Golden Earring, Thin Lzzy, Nazareth, Free, Bad Compay, Judas Priest, Def Leppard, Steppenwolf, Va Halem, Journey, Bachcman Turner Overdrive, The Cars.........Ect, Ect......
HELL NEXT YEAR THEY'LL PROBABLY PUT FUCKIN MILLI VANILLI IN THERE. ROCKAND ROLL HALL F SHAME!
Niel diamond?
bravo kiss and chilli peppers this is ernesto from panama city
whaoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Essentials yet to be inducted:
Heart (the Beatles of Girl Groups)
King Crimson and Robert Fripp
RUSH
Let's add Joe Cocker to that list.
Depeche Mode and Rush should have been inducted this year.
DEEP PURPLE is the biggest snub
KISS – yes
Depeche Mode – no
The Cure – no
Chicago – no
Hall and Oates – no
Rush – YES
Alice Cooper – YES
Moody Blues – no
E.L.O. – no
Cheap Trick – no
Bad Company – yes
Peter Frampton – yes
Heart – yes
T-Rex – yes
Bon Jovi – no
Journey – close
Foreigner – no
Public Enemy – no
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – no
ELO and Moody Blues definitely have the body of work to be inducted. I'll say, as far as 1970-80s USA music scene, Chicago makes the cut.
Ed Sullivan as a "moderator," probably. Casey Kasem? Wolfman Jack?
I am AMAZED that guitar master ROBIN TROWER has not been inducted in to R & R Hall of fame. Not only has TROWER been influencing rock, metal, blues and grunge for nearly 4 decades but the R & R has also ignored TROWER's main singer JAMES DEWAR who's vocals are in a class of there own.
Then again the R & R Hall of Fame ( whoever they think they are) also inducted madonna and a few other 'pop' stars so their credibility is in the toilet anyhow.
Genesis is the 1st British prog-rock band to get in, not because of the brilliance of the 6 albums of the Gabriel years, but through the pop tunes they made for 15 years after he and Hackett left. Still, glad to see them in.
Three comtemporaries of theirs that also deserve in – Yes, Jethro Tull and ELP.
RUSH !!!
Why don't they induct Iggy Pop?
Is Weird Al in there yet? Is was truly a pioneer and should be in there!
He rocked the accordion like no one ever has or will Weird Al is GOD!!!!
Also what about Hanson, when will they be eligible?
Shredder
Neil Young is in Multiple times, including solo.
elvis01
Stray Cats and Los Lobos – good choices
25 years ago, I made a list of the worst bands ever. Journey, Rush, Foreigner, ELO, and Chicago were all on it. So the Hall is right on target. Now can they also continue to snub Boston, J. Geils, Steve Miller, and Kansas, I'll be batting a thousand.
The Smiths
The Cure
Depeche Mode
The Jam
Joy Division
Echo & The Bunnymen
Duran Duran
KISS
Pixies
Sonic Youth
Sure, it could be argued some of these aren't "rock n' roll" but that doesn't seem to matter.
Back in the 70s, RUSH p'd off the elitists that are the RRHOF by writing, playing and being what they wanted to be.....excellent musicians that have learned to evolve and improve themselves. They were told to write bubblegum music for the masses and didn't. Read the lyrics to 2112. "Forget about your silly whim.....it doesn't fit the plan". The RRHOF would take a huge step in legitimizing itself if would induct at least a quarter of the bands mentioned in this thread immediately.
Responding to Keelak's –
Keelak's Reponds -
I can't believe hack outfits like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones keep getting in, but every year seminal bands like Unprovoked Moose Attack, Alien Ant Farm, and Archbishop's Enema Fetish are left on the outside looking in. And who cares about fluff news like the war in Afghanistan or the impact of the potential Greek default CNN? Keep running important stories like this guys! It's not about keeping We the People well-informed – it's all about selling copy and making profit....
My Reponse –
I don't know who Keelak is, BUT THEY NAILED IT!. I've been surffing the net longer than most of you been alive, and this is the first time I've made the effort to added my 2 cents to this consortium – the Net world.
BEASTIE BOYS
KANSAS !
If they would have named the band anything else, they would be in there already . . .
"Who are the stooges? Only popular bands that have sold millions of albums should be in it. Hall Of Fame should mean that acts who are FAMOUS and everyone has heard of them. Obscure trendy acts shouldn't be near the Hall Of Fame."
Wow, you just refered to the band which epitomized modern rock 'n roll as trendy. Maybe you, and others, should take this as an opportunity to find out about one of the most intense pure rock 'n roll bands there was. The Stooges, moreso than even The Beatles, typify the essence of 50s rock 'n roll in a modern form (though The Velvet Underground are in the same class). One listen to their Raw Power album makes this abundantly clear.
In a perfect world there would be a place in the museum dedicated solely to the The Sonic's Here Are the Sonics!!! album and there would be a place where the live video of Ten Years After's I'm Going Home from Woodstock constantly playing.
Another glaringly omission is Sonic Youth. Nirvana will obviously be inducted their first year, but if there is any justice, and I know there isn't
, Sonic Youth should be in before them. Like The Stooges were the ultimate modern rock band, Sonic Youth is the ultimate alt rock band and there really is no other band that is close.
And of course the complete disregard of Krautrock is disconcerning, but I do not think they even think about non-English speaking bands.
Chicago, Heart, Rush, and Styx are probably the most glaring omissions, and probably in that order.
up next ************Jeff Lynne and ELO
The Smiths
Deep Purple
Rainbow
Whitesnake
(and I'll settle for Purple)
ABBA is in? Is this a joke?
Having rocked hard in the 1970's and 80's here's my list:
Deep Purple (Ritchie Blackmore solo on Highway Star...enough said)
Rush (best collection of rock musicians ever...no contest)
Jethro Tull (great songs, great albums, Aqualung and Thick As A Brick required for everyone in high school at the time)
Blue Oyster Cult (Did anyone ever get stoned without these guys or Pink Floyd playing on the 8 track?)
Grand Funk Railroad (I can still smell my high school girlfriends perfume and hair when "We're an American Band" plays on the oldies station.........uh...where was I.....oh yea..
Ozzie as a solo act. Blizzard of OZ in the early 1980's, Randy Rhodes ...wow. I'm old enough to remember Hendrix and Clapton in grade school, Eddie Van Halen in college, but Randy Rhodes is still the best I've ever heard in my lifetime.
It's late....after 9pm. Better take the dog for a walk then get to bed.
Here is my ranking of top 5 on that list, anything below them may deserve to be there (depending on how loose the RRHF wants to make their standards)... but these top 5 clearly should be in.
1. Rush
-This band was groundbreaking on so many levels and highly under-appreciated in the United States, probably because of their Canadian roots. They had one of the top 3 drummers and one of the top 5 guitarists of all time. The content of their lyrics was fantastic, their sound was absolutely unique and different from anything before. This band had the "blow your mind with talent" power of Led Zeppelin, especially live... no other band on this list was as talented as Rush. They were one of the most talented bands, if not THE most talented band ever. I still put Led Zeppelin slightly above them in talent.. barely. Not only should Rush have been a lock for first time eligibility... but they are LONG LONG overdue. They deserve it more than anyone else on this list period.
2. Red Hot Chili Peppers
-Say what you will about their later stuff... which was wildly popular but considerably more "pop". They went away from their funk roots, which was bittersweet for me.. but their later stuff was still very good and extremely memorable. Their early music was groundbreaking and they had an energy about them that few bands have ever had. People have grown up with RHCP and they have serious staying power, despite their considerable struggles with drugs. They are GenX and GenY's Rolling Stones, only better. They will be in soon enough, but they should have been a lock for a first ballot entry in my opinion.
3. The Cure
-Another groundbreaking band that was a great 80s band that created their own arena in music. Their songs were beautiful and their lyrics were some of the best in history. They had one of the most memorable and recognizable frontmen ever and they are fantastic live. These guys will be in, but it's understandable that they haven't been put in just yet if RRHF wants to stay exclusive. That being said, some of the bands they put in this year are far inferior to The Cure... so they have definitely been snubbed.
4. Public Enemy
-An icon in early hip hop that had some seriously strong messages that were genuine and good. They are what hip hop should be today and they opened doorways for an entire genre. They should be put in because they are as important and recognizable as any Hip Hop group of all time... well, as any hip-hop group that was not just about selling records and selling out. Those mainstream record sellers don't count to me and probably won't to RRHOF. If any hip hop group is in the RRHOF, this group should be it... them and Run DMC.
5. Peter Frampton
-Peter Frampton rocks so hard and was very unique. He is Peter Frampton, and that's all you need to know. He auto-tuned before auto-tuning was auto-tuning. He is a consumate badass and it would be a joke if he isn't eventually put in... though I can understand why he'd have to wait so long.
RUSH – definitely.
How can you forget John Denver and Jimmy Buffet
well there was and is a band that every major artist would come to see no matter how small a venue they played..i have seen Jagger, Plant and so many others at their shows.......and they have never been mentioned even for a second.......Little Feat!!!
The Hall of Fame is a joke. Did you see the industry schmucks watching the Stooges' set during the Induction? Iggy trying to get them to sing along with I Wanna Be Your Dog and just blank faces staring back at him...pathetic.
2 biggest snubs are the MC5 and Marc Bolan, but I doubt the suits can name any of either's music.
Kraftwerk beyond a doubt needs to be in the HOF. They have been making music under that name or other formations since 1969. You cannot deny their influence on so many genres of music. Without them, whole auras of music would not have become what they are. Induct Kraftwerk in 2011!
I do not follow the HOF, BUT .........
Chicago is a no-brainer.........What about Bood, Sweat & Tears? They actually defined the whole fusion of big horn sections, with rock and big voices............David Clayton-Thomas. Unbelievable band..........
The rest of these bands couldn't make an appearance on Ed Sullivan.................
HOW about YES ????
.. YES YES >>> YES YES !!! YES YES !!!!
I have been a Rush fan for nearly 30 years and would like nothing better than to see The Boys inducted. However, I have heard from a reliable source that Rush will not be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame while a certain Hall of Fame official is still alive because he simply does not like their music.
Most of the bands listed – especially KISS – are on a par with acts like Paul Revere and The Raiders or any other regional act that had a bunch of little girl followers that bought their records and made them pseudo-famous for about a year or so.
They are now playing in Indian Casinos all around the country making a living off those same little girls that are now in their 50s and 60s...
But ABBA? What were they thinking...?
For the most part, I see no problem with the list. I know all of the acts on it have their fans, and several (like Rush, for instance) have a huge and enthusiastic following. But it won't bother me if none of them are ever inducted. That's especially true of groups like Chicago, KISS, Alice Cooper and Journey. But then...ABBA? Really? I guess it would be impossible to develop a selection criteria that would select all the really deserving artists while excluding the undeserving, in spite their popularity or the fanatacism of their fans. It's all so subjective and political. Finally, just to stir the pot, I personally think the three most annoying voices in the history of popular music are Geddy Lee, Peter Cetera, and Steve Perry. I would add Dennis DeYoung to that list but Styx wasn't on the snub list so he's superflous to this discussion. But all those voices make me want to puke.
If there were going to be three categories it would look something like:
Most Controversial – The Monkees
Most Requested – Cheap Trick
80's Bands that deserve it but will never make it in –
Stray Cats, Plimsouls, X, Los Lobos, the list is pretty endless
Rush is the largest omission.
Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, The Guess Who, and Judas Priest also.
Kiss should be in for their undeniable influence.
The problem with the HoF is with the nominators. They are clearly huge fans of punk rock and dislike hard rock/metal. Punk was a very small segment of rock and are WAY over-represented in the HoF because of this flawed process. It is for this reason that every little crap punk band will find its way into the hall before any of the afore mentioned bands make it in.
Dogs?
colosseum – prog/blues heavy but tasty that combined the chops with the heart.
kiss for sure,,,,where is journey,,kansas,,styx,,rush,,alice cooper,,,what about those bands
Deep Purple. Ritchie Blackmore was the first Shredder in hard Rock. He set the template for Heavy Metal in the 80's. Smoke on The Water? EVERYONE knows that riff. They sold tens of millions of albums and Made in Japan Is still the tightest live album ever imho.
Who are the Stooges? Really?Anyone who wrote anything like that should be disqualified from commenting on R&Roll. If you don't know the Stooges at all, you are disqualified.
Where the hell is Neil Young? a career as prolific as his, like him or not, should be there as well. He was truly a Maverick.
Genesis is the best band inducted today. Every band on the list of snubs DOES NOT belong/is not worthy of the hall of fame. sorry.
KING CRIMSON?????
@ fenderama:
Mick is probably one of those who only likes bands no one else has heard of; as soon as they sell more than 10 albums they're "sellouts". He's probably hoping that Spin magazine will take him as seriously as he takes himself.
The New York Dolls paved the way for glam rock
KANSAS should certainly be inducted. Who else produced such a unique sound with poignant songwriting and amazing musicianship?
Gravy is tone deaf, and Mick shows his musical ignorance! W/o reading all the previous dribble, I did not see Pink Floyd which I hope means that they made it!!!!!
Most of the major acts from the 50's and 60's have made it in.
The voting panel is probably of comprised of music industry contacts that grew up in that era.
Virtually no arena acts from the 70's have made it in.
Little Feat
Dire Straits
J. Geils Band
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Jethro Tull
Moody Blues
Rush
... pretty much in that order.
What about Slayer and Iron Maiden? They have certainly contributed their talents and changed the music industry within their style.
The day ABBA is considered a rock band by a serious entity I promise I'll rip my balls off next time I hear "Dancing Queen" on the radio... Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is a big JOKE.
Disappointed,
SB
DIANA ROSS (as a solo artist), this is the biggest snub.
THE STOOGES BABY!!! NOTHING ELSE MATTERS.... WELL & TRULY DESERVED!!!
Uriah Heep?
Tom Waits, The Pogues, and Thin Lizzy......these three aren't in and the award is meaningless as far as I'm concerned
Nice to read that people still remember Roxy Music...
Pretty obvious that all should be inducted, with the exception of Bon Jovi.
T-Rex would be the most prolific, but again...they all are deserved with the exception of Bon Jovi. Might as well throw in Men at Work if thats the case.....
RUSH, RUSH AND RUSH. Still going strong. 4 decades of great music. True musicians.
Moody Blues biggest omission for sure.
DEVO.
Mick
You're quite the critic aren't you. Just what have you and the imaginary newspaper you write for done for us?
Please. oh please, let us in on 20-30 bands you DO like and provide your priceless color commentary on them. We're all waiting breathlessly.
I'll bet it's one helluva list.
Is the Grateful Dead in? AC/DC, The Doors, Janis, Yes, U2, ZZTop, Santana, MC5, The Clash, Husker Du/Bob Mould? The father of the Blues; Robert Johnson?......the blues had a baby and they called it Rock and Roll!
Chicago is second only to the Beach Boys for records and #1's
Their international respect was in trouble without ABBA (second only to the Beatles)
I'll take the blows but listen to the Monkeys greatest hits. Mickey Dozlen and Davey Jones's songs survive even today
Add Todd Rundgren to that list.
The Electric Light Orchestra or ELO should be a shoe-in. If not on its own merit as a band consider the work Jeff Lynne has done in addition by contributing to artists such as The Beatles, Tom Petty, Roy Orbison, George Harrison, The Traveling Wilbury's, Roy Wood, and more. Clearly Jeff Lynne is not being given the credit that he deserves.
Also, for fun, I would like to see The Cars included as well.
Jethro Tull! J E T H R O T U L L !!! C'mon people!
Joe Cocker
How can you induct Genesis and not recognize that there would be no Genesis without YES! Jon Anderson, Chris Squire, Bill Bruford, and Rick Wakeman paved the way for bands like Rush, Genesis, and Coheed and Cambria! Come on guys! The Stooges?
OZZY OSBOURNE...as a solo artist.
The Randy Rhoads albums BLIZZARD OF OZZ & DIARY OF A MADMAN are the finest of their kind.
I played the guitar in my junior high school talent show. I think I qualify to be inducted into the R&RHOF! (Well, it was a John Denver song. Is he in?)
Gravy is tone deaf! w/o reading all the crap, I did not see Pink Floyd which I hope means they made it!!!!!
Chicago-Peter Frampton-Kiss should be in the Hall of Fame easily! Chicago is the second biggest american band in history!
Bon Jovi paved the way for glam rock? – Oh puh-leeese
Let's see there was T-Rex (who hasn't made it in yet either) and the New York Dolls just to name a couple right off top of my head that preceded Bon Jovi by what? 20 years?
The R&R HOF has enough BS associated with it already. So, if you're going to post, at least have some vague idea what you're talking about, please
ZEPPELIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I do not remember the 3 stooges doing much rock and roll!
NINE INCH NAILS better get in on the first ballot. It's worth the wait.
Heart. That was serious rock and roll...
Chicago – horn crap Hall and Oates – fudge packers Moody Blues – overrated trash Peter Frampton-only relevant in Humble Pie Bon Jovi -blow dryers Public Enemy- escaped slaves Delaney and Bonnie and Friends- doobie burnouts Flying Burrito Brothers – ass gas Badfinger -lets all commit suicide! Stephen Stills- huh? wheres my coke spoon? Harry Nilsson -dead lame depressing slug Herman's Hermits-Peter Noone-infomercial guru with bad English teeth man. Bread-the biggest pussies on planet Earth The Marshal Tucker Band – they're cowboys dumb-ass Boston- one note wonders
Karen Carpenter-eat a sandwich will ya?
The Cowsills-inbred goobers
ABBA-euro trash in jump suits
Kansas/Journey/Foreigner/Styx/ REO Speedwagon – all the same band right?
Neil Diamond- grandma music
Cat Stevens-terrorist
Gary Glitter -homosexual pedophile (see Michael Jackson)
New York Dolls-one great album cover and nuthin else
Doctor Hook & The Medicine Show-Wenner bought it.
Andy Gibb /Maurice Gibb – 2 down 2 to go.
How come no one has mentioned Rush?
Leon Redbone -Zappas alter-ego without the talent
Joan Jett -slut
Doobie Brothers- pick a genre!
Toto – karaoke rubbish
Three Dog Night-great vocals ,crappy songs
Meatloaf- wishes he picked a cooler name. Fat.
Sammy Hagar -Drive 55 off a freakin cliff lame-o
Jimmy Buffet -hello?? Rock & Roll
Boz Scaggs – once a good bluesman-sold out to the disco scene.
The Guess Who -guess what? They stink. aka Rare Earth-interchangeable crap.
Poco-LameO
Little Feat-less talent
Tori Amos -somebody shoot that guy who wrote that.
I am blown away!!! I can't believe that Journey, Chicago, Heart, Bon Jovi, and Foreigner wouldn't have made the cut!!!
Bad Religion, its time to induct someone worthy. Some of the others in the list above I agree are due there time but Bad Religion were Pioneers of their time and still are to this day.
I am blown away!! I can't believe that Journey, Chicago, Heart, Bon Jovi, and Foreigner would not have made the cut!!!
Well, if the Stooges made it in, it has to be based on "influence" rather than sales or popularity so there's hope yet for XTC, which belongs in the ranks of the Ramones, the Sex Pistols, the Clash, Talking Heads, Elvis Costello and Blondie.
The R&RHOF is as bogus as it gets. To leave out Cheap Trick, Tommy James and the Shondells as well as the Monkees is nuts. The Monkees, by the way, brought rock and roll to the masses every Monday night on NBC in '66, '67 and '68. Tommy James has a big catalouge of hit singles and sold more than anyone when he was releasing them for Roulette and if I have to explain Cheap Trick then what is the use. Until the pius judging committee understands what Rock and Roll is then, as far as I am concerened, the R&RHOF is only a museum full of atifacts no more principled than one of the many Hard Rock Cafes. Who wants a burger?
MOODY BLUES ! ! !
HEART
JETHRO TULL
RUSH
CHICAGO
I don't think any group has had more total fans sit in front of them in concert than the Moody Blues. Although finally slowing down a bit since Thomas called it quits, they are still playing concerts to full arenas since 1967! I've been to seven of them, three with full symphony orcestras backing them up. SIMPLY AWESOME!
Ann Wilson was one of the best female vocalist of all rock history! How can you leave out the best???
Who says a flautist can't rock? Jethro Tull kicks azz!
Arguably one of the best drummers, lead guitarist and bassist all rolled into an wall of sound. RUSH deserves it just on musical talent alone.
Chicago in it's time was just hit after hit after hit and had Peter Cetera following up with a successful solo career. Half of the younguns here were spawned in the back seat while Color My World or some song from Bread was playing on the 8 track! :0)
We Want the Moodies!!!!
Blind Faith, Supertramp, Fleetwood Mac, Spencer Davis Group
Common, Supertramp ...
Lead the New Wave Revolution of the 80's – Duran Duran....several #1 hits, ushered in the video age, and STILL going strong.....
Iron Maiden
Regardless of anyone's personal preference in music, if a band has had a profound influence, they should be in. The Moody Blues have been touring and making albums since 1967. Their out on the road as I write this. It was band member Mike Pinder who took the melatron and developed it into a musical instrument. "Days of Future Passed" is one of the most influential records of all time with its concept and successful blend of classical, orchestral music into rock. It makes me sick every time I see an artist backed up by an orchestra and they act as if they're the first ones to do it.......sorry, the Moodies have everyone beat by at least 40 years. I've been to the museum and it's a joke.....high-priced and a only a couple floors open to the public. If I ever pass through Cleveland again, I'd much rather go on a tour of the spots they used filming "Major League" than see the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Until ALL of the bands in the aforementioned list are in – it's just a Jenn-popularity contest shrine.
All of the bands listed as snubbed do not deserve to go. KISS SUCKS, BON JOVI REALLY SUCKS.
Funny that everyone just thinks the band they love should be inducted. Just like every HOF about anything...just cause you like doesn't mean that everyone else does. There is a reason people other than you get to vote...
No Jethro Tull? Aqualung was a seminal album of the 1970's and is in regular rotation on classic rock stations all over the USA and Europe. Thick as a Brick charted #1 in both the USA and UK and had Ian Anderson on the cover of Time magazine. They have sold over 60 million records. What is it that Gene Pitney or Percy Sledge did that got them in but not Tull?
The Moody Blues and Chicago stand out on that list for their uniqueness, influence on other bands and longevity. The other listed bands eventually belong in the Hall of Fame after those first two get in.
However, the RRHOF is neither rock and roll nor a hall of fame. It is about marketing incestuous self-promotion. Any process that allows one person to blackball legitimate nominations is suspect. The institution has become rudderless, to the point where it really has nothing to do with it's name.
Red Hot Chili Peppers. Obscure to older generations but legends for the generation X's and on.
This is just to say "ditto" to "Rob-03/15" comment. Although I agree 100% about the majority of those listed I was dumbfounded as I read the
Moody Blues are among them yet(?-if ever?)to be inducted!
This alone says something is very,very wrong with this! Big time! So,why bother even having this "so-called R&R Hall of Fame at all! What a farce! Yet,so-so sad as well! So many,actually way too many have been denied much deserved recognition!
The GO-GO'S – Greatest all FEMALE band EVER !!!!!!!
Eddie Money
– Hit Albums –
Eddie Money (2× Multi-Platinum)
Life for the Taking (Platinum)
No Control (Platinum)
Can't Hold Back (Platinum)
Nothing to Lose (Gold)
Greatest Hits: The Sound of Money (Gold)
24 hits on the charts.
33 years and still over 90 concerts a year.
Television appearances on American sitcoms.
Simple. Leon Russell
ABBA should be inThe H.O.L (The Hall OF Lame)
Red Hot Chili Peppers are probably breathing a sigh of releif
they were"nt chosen!
if i were ABBA i would be respectivley decline induction, because for one thing they are not worthy and two as a protest of the dozens of superstar Rock and Roll groups that have been ingnord!
Three Dog Night, people. Three Dog Night.
DEVO
Its a downright disgrace to leave off such great rocknroll artist's such as Chicago,Alice Cooper, Hall and Oates,Moody Blues but yet Madonna and ABBa get in. What happen to the true definition of Rock n Roll. As far as I'm concerned It should be called the Rock N Roll Hall of Shame.
Why on earth would a pop princess like Madonna be in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame ( whose next, Britney Spears!?!) but not Rush or Yes?! Its really quite lame and makes me think the whole thing is a joke.
A Hall of Fame is antithetical to Rock and Roll. Tear it down like the Who going after a guitar!
There's politics in everything, unfortunately, so I will leave that dynamic out of my own comments.
KISS, as much as I dislike their material, is part of rock HISTORY, no doubt. They deserve to be in, regardless of how much of a tool Gene Simmons is.
Def Leppard is a glaring omission, as is Cheap Trick.
But the most blatant and obscene snub is RUSH. The funny part is, they probably don't mind very much, cause they've always been about the music. With the exception of Vapor Trails and maybe their first two albums, those guys have consistently turned out amazing music, played outstanding live shows and inspired generations of rock musicians. There are very few bands as talented as this trio. I can concede that Geddy Lee isn't the greatest singer in the world, but what an amazing band.
Maybe they'll be in by 2112, haha!
And as far as all the haters – hey, I don't dig Dave Matthews Band (I don't even have ONE of their songs on my iTunes), but those guys are also so talented that they deserve to be voted in as soon as they're eligible, so don't go knocking RUSH so ignorantly.
Finally, to those in charge of voting – get some Q-Tips and get some new music (this also goes for the people who claimed there are no good bands since 19xx).
Live in the NOW. There have been many GREAT bands since the 70s.
Weezer
Foo Fighters
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Alice In Chains
Stars
SuperSam
Block Party
Jellyfish
The Outfield
The Mars Volta
The Killers
311
The Housemartins
Phoenix
Radiohead
The Smiths
SIlversun Pickups
Jack Johnson
the list could go On and On... (thanks Jack, haha)
There are so many artists that deserve inclusion, and like them or not, Iron Maiden being one of the break through bands of the New Wave of British Heavy Metal are missing as well. Just goes to show you that the Hall is a political hack organization.
Ohio players
What about Supertramp?
ABBA, Jimmy Cliff, The Hollies, The Stooges – are you kidding me?
Clearly the people who are choosing these bands are a bunch of old heads that favor their friends. This is a joke, which is why I will never visit the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
A complete joke.
RUSH!!! For goodness sake, it's gotten to the point of outright absurdity. Seriously, methinks the people who decide these things are still emotionally in high school.
As far as I'm concerned, until Rush is inducted, the R&R HOF has zero credibility.
I think there should be at least three criteria: The sound, impact on genre and their longevity. UFO was a great band, but only good for 5 years. They, he or she can't be part of a fad or fashion only out there to sell records. Therefore, Madonna was in and that was a total shame. Except for her celebrity status, ongoing news and scandals & 100 million records sale, she brings nothing to the evolution of Rock & Roll. I also think the inductee should be a serious musician. They can't be merely a money machine for records labels.
That said, if Madonna is in, what else you can criticize about Kiss or Journey or whatever.
ABBA? Madonna?? WTF? So, Madonna and ABBA were just as groundbreaking as the Yardbirds and the Velvet Underground? You can't be serious!
Journey and Foreigner were popular, but that does not mean they were good or deserving. It was all Electronics. Without the electronics, their music had no appeal. They probably set back the music industry 20 years. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it is good. There is no shortage of terrible things in life that have been popular.
IRON MAIDEN!! The Finest of All!!
PEARL JAM
TOOL
Listen to Chicago Transit Authority, Chicago's first album. That's why they're mentioned in the "same sentence" as KISS, dude.
The one that drives me crazy is YES, how they could be kept out is beyond me.
I am protesting the whole damn thing until the Archies and The Partridge Family get SOME consideration....
C'MON!!! The great bass riffs of the awesome Danny Bonaduce..?? Second to none....
The Stooges? Chicago needs to be inducted way more over them. Don't get me wrong, the Stooges rock but Chicago has been way more influential and is way more well known.
What about The Bangles?
Okay, for everyone who suggested starting a new HOF, criteria are needed if a popularity contest is to be avoided. It should be a Music HOF with categories.
The bar should be set high–minimum number of gold/platinum, longevity, relevance to the time they were writing/performing, etc.... It should probably be limited to those who have ended their careers–the exceptional post-career revival tour may be excluded.
Based on that alone, many of the names mentioned here would not be eligible. The LPGA has perhaps the toughest HOF to make it in to and it means something to become a part of that group.
Based on some of the criteria mentioned above, I begin with The Beatles, Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison/The Doors, Buddy Holly, to name a few.
Go ahead–being your bashing
I agree about ZAPPA one of the best concerts I ever saw.
There should not be a question about the following bands:
Joy Division
The Cure
Depeche Mode
The Pixies
Public Enemy
The Pogues
Rush
Kiss
On the fence:
Cheap Trick
Devo
Samfir the pan flute master
Seriously, Rush needs to be elected to the HOF! Granted, there are some great bands on that list, but Rush has been pumping out albums consistently for almost 40 consecutive years!!! Great accomplished musicians (including probably the best drummer ever), outstanding meaningful lyrics, however their musical style has been altered has been successful. The HOF is illegitimate without Rush.
Ran'l:
You, and others, have a bit of a narrow view as to what RnR is.
It is a variety of things and the Blues is certainly part of it.
Without the Blues you don't have Eric Clapton, The Rolling Stones, ZZ Top, the list goes on.
Earlier I mentioned Ten Years After, a Blues-Rock band. You would be hard pressed to find a better Rock guitarist than Alvin Lee.
I agree with those that Joan Jett, AKA Tess Turbo, should be in there.
Steve Winwood is in the Hall with Traffic, but deserves to be in for his body of work:
Spencer Davis Group (at age 14)
Blind Faith
Solo work
Songs written
He has played with many of musics biggest stars.
Another member of Traffic, Dave Mason, has done a respectable amount of solo work too.
the Guess Who , hit after hit during their run , even once knocked the Beatles out of top spot on the charts- great tunes
T-Rex hasn't made it !!!!!!! The hall is obviously a fraud.
What about Barry Manilow, David Hasselhof, Ethel Merman and Zamfir
Rick, how about Nirvana, I think they're one of the greatest band ever formed after 1979...
anyway reagarding the rock and roll hall of fame...Why do they call it rock and roll when they recognized something like Abba?
Clearly making it into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame has very little to do with popularity. Take for example Rush. How is it possible they are not in?
I can appreciate all the favorites but,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
X John-Exene-Billy-DJ.
That's what does it fer me.
Blue Oyster Cult, Kansas, Rush, Rainbow, Dio (solo), Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Yes, Kiss, ELO, Cheap Trick, Slade, Journey, REM, & Iron Maiden: The R&RHOF has no credibility without honoring the great achievements and influences of these bands.
How about the Smiths? Not only did they create an altogether new sound, they did it without selling out and becoming puppets of their record label. The Rock and Roll hall of fame is just like the rest of the music industry – controlled by money.
Hello can anyone say Hanson...I mean really.
The CNN "missed" list is far too long - Depeche Mode? The Cure??? Give me a break. And now we got morons crying out for Neil Diamond - NEIL FREAKIN' DIAMOND - to get in. The "Rock N' Roll" Hall of Fame made a joke out of itself when it inducted Madonna. What a crock - stop wasting your time with this pointless endeavor. Oh yeah, KISS rules!!!
Public Enemy – love them or hate them. They lead the way for mainstream hip hop which killed rock in middle America.
As a Canadian, of course RUSH should be there.
Ten Years After and Uriah Heep! Great bands!
The red hot chilly peppers rank as the all time most over rated band ever . Tom Waites, Cold play and U2 are right behind
Going on the theory that bands should be inducted for their contribution to music and not their popularity:
Kiss – While I'm not a fan, I think Kiss is a HUGE oversight. The genius of this group changed the way bands were marketed.
Rush – listed over and over as the influence for so many modern bands. progressive rock possibly at it's best.
The Cure – maybe not the first, but the most visible and influential of the bands to bring goth music and culture to the mainstream.
I'm thrilled the Stooges are being inducted. Truly influential to punk and metal today.
Where is King Crimson? What the hell is wrong with this picture? Robert Fripp had more genius, talent and vision alone in his left nu%-$ack then 3/4ths of bands listed combined.
Also, Iron Maiden, XTC, Rush, Todd Rundgren, Kate Bush...
....John Lydon was right. The Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame is nothing more than a "pi$$ stain".
...and the day that Journey or Styx are inducted will be a great day to burn the place to the ground!!!!
The Smiths (Best band of the 1980's)
The Cars
The Cure
Rush
Depeche Mode
Duran Duran
Really how can Bon Jovi not be in? you don't have to be their fan to see they are one of the few still around and selling out concerts
Missing Stevie Ray Vaughn, Jimmie Vaughn, and the Neville Brothers. Hello??
SONS OF CHAMPLIN and or BILL CHAMPLIN... if you don't know who they are...google em
Having Rush not be included in as an inductee has been a huge mistake on the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame's part. The are one of the most talented bands around today and have been influencing artists throughout their whole career. Blue Oyster Cult has also been snubbed and without the genius of Buck Dharma, many metal acts would not be around today.
The fact that none of Boston, Meat Loaf, Yes, ELO, Styx, Moody Blues, Jethro Tull, or KISS are in the Hall proves how bogus and vapid it really is. After all, Boston only has the biggest selling debut album of all time, and Meat Loaf's Bat Out Of Hell has never left the charts in the UK. Heck, the fact that neither Led Zeppelin nor Pink Floyd made it in in their first year of eligibility says that all by itself– both started in 1968 which made 1993 their first year eligible, yet Zeppelin didn't make it in until 1995 and the Floyd not until 1996.
yeah but should a band get inducted just cuz it SELLS well or cuz they are influential/historically important. a list of top selling records and a list of musicians/critics favorite would be VERY different!
nobody ever played the ramones on the radio, but rock history without punk would be obviously incomplete. whenever i see musician's list their favorite records, sonic youth seems to always come up, but they'll never make it to the hall of fame. a friend of mine once astutely pointed out "probably only a few hundred people every bought a copy of the 1st velvet underground record. but everyone of them started a band the next day." does that make them influential or not? i dont know...
Besides the list in the article, how about the MONKEES? Not only are they a great band for a group of singers, actors and musicians who eventually learned to play there instruments, they invented the MUSIC VIDEO 10+ years before MTV. Give them some credit!
Genesis, finally!!! Way overdue, but they got it right.
It's about time progressive rock gets some recognition. Hopefully, this opens the door for other deserving bands like Yes, Rush and ELP.
I think Hall & Oates should be a lock, and it's crazy that Chicago isn't in there already. I'm not a Kiss fan, but I could accept that nod. I think they're getting snubbed right now to heighten the angst... so when they do get in, it'll be quite a show.
But then, I also think The Monkees deserve to be enshrined, so take me with a grain of salt.
Public Enemy is not eligible til 2012.
I would know.
Come on, The Doobie Brothers! You can't listen to classic rock without hearing a Doobie Brothers song. Way over due.
The Moody Blues are so deserving of the Hall of Fame. Nights in White Satin is a major song. They are still out there. Touring in fine voice and form. Justin and John have written many beautiful songs including"I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band" A group since the 60's they have a huge following. Who are the Stooges anyway? Give the MBs their due.
i don't know who's already in the r&r hof, but that won't stop me from adding my two cents:
siouxsie and the banshees
gang of four
fela kuti
the smiths
chic
peter tosh
b-52s
eric b. and rakim
rem
parliament/funkadelic
dr. buzzard and the original savannah band
sonic youth
steely dan
it's all rock and roll!
PHISH! Or is it too early for them?
The Guess Who. This band was one of the top record -sellers in the late 60's and early 70's with 'American Woman", "Undun", and 'These Eyes". to name a few.
The Minutemen from L.A. punk fame, and T-Rex!
We must repeat D-E-V-O, we must repeat D-E-V-O.
Waaay ahead of their time back in the 70's...still ahead of their time in 2010. A major influence on everybody from Nirvana to Pearl Jam to Neil Young (Google that if you don't believe me). Still going strong with rockin' live shows and a new album due out any day.
Plus, they correctly predicted the de-evolution we all know now to be true.
Q: Are we not men? A: We're all DEVO!
It appears Yes just got snubbed by CNN!
Public Enemy, Tom Waits, Johnny "Guitar" Watson, REM, The Cure, Rush
So glad to see heart on this list. As I waited for the page to load, I was thinking, "Heart is so deserving but they won't make this CNN list." And the did! They have been in the business for over 3 decades. Ann and Nancy Wilson still tour as Heart, with new band members. They are, quite simply, an institution, and Nancy Wilson is very possibly the best guitarist of our generation, male or female.
Go Heart!!
3 Words...
RUSH, RUSH, RUSH!
24 Gold Records and 14 Platinum (3 multi-platinum) and they are still making GREAT music. Ahead of RUSH in this are only 3 bands, The Beatles, The Stone and Aerosmith. Sorry but the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a joke. ABBA is for elevators and dental offices. Sorry, way more than 3 words but you get the point.
Erasure are currently working on their 14th studio album. Legends? Surely. Does it matter if they're inducted? Nope.
OK, this 'Jimmy Cliff' ... who in the heck is he? ABBA? = Rock & Roll??? May as well add all the one-hit-wonders (and then some) of pop music:
Brewer & Shipley
Daddy Dewdrop
Wadsworth Mansion
Dave Clark 5
Herman's Hermits
The Bells
5th Dimension (OK, multi-hits)
Poppy Family
Boxtops
Lake
Camel
Charlie
Steve Hackett
GTR
Harry Nilsson
Todd Rundgren ( he needs to definitely be added)
Steve Windwood
Fleetwood Mac
Gallery
etc
etc
etc
Why not Spice Girls? they revolutionized the industry and are amazing. Besides talent the girls are beautiful and also revolutionized style. What more could you ask? Spice Up Your Life! Spice Girls Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame 2011!!
What about ROXY MUSIC (Bryan Ferry and Brian Eno) that band influenced more bands coming out of England in the early 80's than most others combined.
KANSAS why are they not in already and why are they not on your list of misses?
Carry on my Wayward sons.
caryl the better question is how old are you Journey should be in
Is there a category for best frontman ever. Michael Hutchence should be included hands down!!!
Hearts still not in! they've been around for decades, paved the way for most females, and had tons of hits. For that matter Pat Benatar should be also.
What about Bad Religion?
they are celebrating their 30th year...and influenced most of today's bands.
Iron Maiden.
They should just bury the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, since true Rock & Roll no longer exists.
What about Susan Boyle?
Not having RUSH in there is insane.
I see a lot of comments of people not knowing who the Stooges are, and this is understandable because they were not a huge commercial success. The Stooges are very influential to many modern musicians and performers. They definitely deserve to be in the HOF. A band can make a tremendous impact on music without being popular. Look them up in Wikipedia. Read under the influences section. If you don't think they belong in the HOF, you don't have a clue about rock music.
I can't believe Def Leppard is still not in the RRHOF and not even on the original article. They're one of the top bands of the 80's and influenced a lot of musicians. To omit them is a travesty.
Judas Priest created heavy metal as we know it. They brought leather and additude to this music genre.
TODD RUNDGREN. Biggest snub of ALL TIME.
Who the he double hockey sticks are the Stooges?
Yes, Where is Yes?
Their album Close to the Edge is a Masterpiece!
ABBA = Rock n' Roll??
Blue Oyster Cult, Pink Floyd, Springsteen, UFO, Montrose, Bob Seager, Boston, , and yes groups like Yes, ELP, Neil Diamond, Blood Sweat & Tears, CCR, Rare Earth, The Who, Sir Elton John.....the current HOF voting members must have Alzheimers or smoked too much dope to recall the real pioneers of R&R!
Really enjoying some of these comments here some of you folks have such a great sense of humor!
To all of those voting for the Moody Blues, I agree!
Let's see some Canadian talent in here, too, i.e. BTO, Guess Who.
Are you kidding me?
Steve Marriott and Humble Pie!
For God's sake. How many times is YES mentioned here? I called the R&R Hall a few years ago to find out why they were not in.WTF?One of the most imaginitive and sonically amazing bands ever.They cut a niche of musical virtuosity and creativity in the 70's which is virtually unmatched.Most of the others not already in are all deserving, but The Moodys, ELP, Tull and YES were all musical juggernaughts.Is it because they are all English?I just don't get it.
Bad Company for sure, (anybody seen Paul Rodgers lately? wow
and Rush, easily best drummer/lyricist in the world, Geddy's bass playing, phenominal
I'm glad to see so many of you saying YES
YES is a really important band, I mean, I love Rush and Alice Cooper and a lot of the bands mentioned here..
But YES a a truly IMPORTANT band, really.
They brought a musicality and a dignity to Rock Music that influenced so many things, but they are inimitible, an absolutely unique phenomenon.
INXS with Michael Hutchence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@ Sam...
Yes, people with half a functioning brain cell would agree that Rush sucks.
People with multiple functioning brain cells will disagree.
Cheap Trick, KISS, Jim Croce, Alice Cooper, Hall & Oates, Harry Chapin, Chicago...next year my list will be bigger.
Priest!
Priest!
Priest!
Priest!
Priest!
Wow. Only made it through a page or two of comments – but – if you don't know who The Stooges are, or why they are in, you need to crank up your Lady GaGa CD and take your place on the couch for American Idol.
I wouldn't say the HoF is out of touch. They have made a point of acknowledging legitimate music pioneers. I will say they are elitists with their own agenda, however. They have a very definite idea of who they believe is "worthy" of inclusion into their little club. I think they make conscious decisions to try to deflect that criticism from time to time (I'm not sure I understand how Lynyrd Skynrd made it in ahead of some bands... not to imply they aren't worthy of consideration... and ABBA? WTF?).
Madonna and REM were first-ballot inductees, by the way. And I'll bet that Pearl Jam's name will be at the top of the list in 6 years
And to Brett... you are just the type of voter Jann Wenner would want on the selection committee... and I don't mean that with disrespect.
Out of touch indeed! Too many bands out there in this modern day who have and are still rocking are asses off. The list could go on and on. Why not nominate 10 or 20 a year to make up for all of this crap. Maybe then folks will come to Cleveland!!!!
Well, I have seen just about every band that has ever recorded an album here. Many are too "new" for the criteria the HOF uses.
King Crimson
Yes
Peter Gabriel as a solo artist as well as with Genesis
Roxy Music
Brian Eno Look at his work with U2 and Talking Heads as well as his work with Roxy Music
Husker Du
Todd Rungren Didn't he play most of the instruments on his stuff?
KISS Never cared for them, but the gimmick worked
Rush
Black Sabbath Without them, there is no Metallica
They will all be there in due time.
Journey is consistently rated as one of the greatest American rock bands...the Hall of Fame needs to get in touch with the public. I'd say everyone on that list deserves in with the possible exception of Public Enemy...not sure I'd call them rock haha.
It's not all about sales or hit singles, it's about creativity and pioneers in music. Journey, Styk, Foreigner, Loverboy all fit into the same radio format, and as good as some of them are, wasn't very pioneering or paved the way for anything in particular. They all had many hits, but all in the same years, which tells you it was a trend, not a trend setter!
The Hall of fame are about specific details for nominations. It's about the style of music, the art in writing, production value, creative style, many reasons why some artists are in, not all about sales like I said.
DEVO (Electro Punk Pioneers, and video age as well)
KRAFTWERK (Same as E.L.O., but was doing the techno first)
E.L.O (Electronic rock pioneers without a doubt)
SMITHS
DURAN DURAN (Blondie actually had 25 odd videos before DD, but this was before MTV, so DD may have got better exposure from MTV, but were not inovators and pioneers, that is an example why Blondie are in alread, they were ground breaking)
HEART
THE GO-GO'S (First all female band to have a number #1 LP)
B'52'S (Debute album considered one of the all time top 100 best)
THE CARS (Talking heads are in, where are The Cars?)
XTC
Some of the early SST bands should be considered, Including the following:
Black Flag
Minutemen
Husker Du
Sonic Youth
Plus don't forget Dischord bands. There should be plenty of seminal punk/indie bands coming up for selection in the next few years.
Plus my personal vote would be for Midnight Oil.
Leon Russell – How can he not be there? Between his solo career, years heading up Phil Spectre's Wrecking Crew and every thing he has composed and arranged for others. Many performers in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are there because of a boost from Leon. Here's a man who was band leader and piano man for Shindig back in the 60's and is still performing today.
What about Megadeth?!
What about Tom Waits? Neil Diamond? The Replacements? Husker Du? X? REM? Mitch Ryder?
If we're talking Rock and Roll, then no band fromed after 1979 should even be discussed. Everything after that has just been crap!
They're a joke. Period. Dick Dale is not even in there. DICK DALE!!!! And Madonna is?!?! Please...
How old are you people.? Do none of you remember what Journey did for Rock and Roll. Boring, I don't think so.
Bored at work. Read every suggestion above - don't agree with a single one... except Cooper's. I didn't see one suggestion that rises to the level of being an HOF'er.
Honestly, I think it's time for the doors to RnRHOF to be nailed shut. RnR no longer exists, hasn't for decades. I LOVE today's music, but it's not RnR.
RnRHOF has already inducted the best of the best when it comes to RnR. The rest are all 2nd tier leftovers - inducting them cheapens the honor.
My suggestion is to change the name to the Rock Music Hall of Fame - or better, simply The Music Hall of Fame. They could induct the very best artists without having to decide if it is RnR or not. I love rap, but rap is not RnR. I love techno, but techno is not RnR. I love country, but country is not RnR. I love blues, but blues is not RnR. I love RnR, but RnR is dead.
I'm Ran'l. I'm 49, and I'm addicted to New Music Tuesday.
I agree with Warren Zevon. I don't think the Chili Peppers should be considered at all.
Has Dick Dale been inducted yet? If he hasn't, he should be.
Definitely agree with the addition of Cheap Trick, Chicago, RHCP and Styx and I'll begrudgingly admit that Kiss belongs in the HOF although I don't really care for their material, but Rush? Hell no! They're the most overrated band of all time next to the Stones. Geddy Lee sounds like a hamster being molested, and Chris Squire of Yes is twice the bassist Lee could ever hope to be. Anyone with half a functioning brain cell knows Rush sucks.
The ROCK & ROLL Hall of Fame. ABBA, Madonna, The Cure, Depech Mode.....not rock and roll.
Everyone has their favorite bands; but how in the hell do you miss YES?? Three Dog Night?? Steve Miller Band?? RUSH?? and you place ABBA in front of those groups?? Like it or not...KISS is on their own playing field...nobody did it like them at that time.! yes, Frank Zappa, Def Leppard.....Kansas..Hall & Oats also...who decides who makes it in??
Yes as previously mentioned Three Dog Night should have been in the Hall of Fame years ago! I first saw then in 1969 and many times since then. Cory Wells voice is outstanding!
Warren Zevon (period)
Tom Morysoniuk listed Van Halen. If VH was not inducted into the RNR HOF you would be 100% right. Except that they ARE in the RNR HOF. So all is well with the world.
Keelak; did any of those obscure bands you listed have any influnce on the world like the Beatles, such as the fall of 'the Berlin wall' or the clothes your probably wearing. I dont think so. The Beatles and the Stones are the epitomy of Rock&Roll
Rush is an innovative band with great music and thoughtful lyrics. Their omission to this point is a glaring condemnation of some sort of bias in this process.
Kiss and Rush should get a Razzie equivalent.. horrible bands.
The Cure has been around for over 30 years. They have been a VERY influential band. Please make sure they are inducted next year.
Thanks
What about FISHBONE a band that influenced many bands such as the Chili Peppers. Hands Down one of the best live acts FISHBONE are very talented musicians.
Yes
Rush
Warren Zevon
Maybe a few musicians should be in the HoF...
I ONLY see TWO names on that list "worthy" of induction...The Moody Blues & Bad Company.
Arguably the two best debut albums in history – Boston and Meat Loaf – and neither is in the HOF. Yes is surely one of tyhe best bands of the 1970's and set the stage for many arty-rocky bands. Nada. AC/DC did re-tread music – in the HOF; why? Abba? Don't get me started.
Alas, it is what its title says it is – a Hall of Fame, not a Hall of Musical Excellence.
The Neil Diamond people need to go read Dave Barry on the worst rock n roll songs of all time. To call what Diamond did rock is to sully its name.
Without Neil Diamond and Rush...the HOF is a shame. I can't wait till they induct the Pussycat Dolls at this rate.
ABBA but no ELO??!!! That's criminal.
Playing together for 40 years and still touring, LITTLE FEAT have yet to be recognised by the Hall of Fame.
Then again – MAYBE the Hall of Fame is just an exclusive club for the founder's personal favorites and has NOTHING to do with actual validity in the Rock and Roll community.
Chicago should already be in for sure, probably KISS too! Red Hot Chili Peppers get in next year.
How about the Fireballs from the late 50's & 60's (Sugar Shack). they are still performing today. One of the 1st great insturmental rock & roll bands.
LINK WRAY! He should clearly have been inducted before his death but it's never too late.
I can only add: ask Bonnie Raitt! SHE will agree I am CERTAIN that Little Feat is a deserved to be in the HOF. Enough said.
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March 15th, 2010 3:29 pm ET
LITTLE FEAT is the most influential and purely talented band not in the HOF. They are the musicians that other musicians want to play with. HOF is supposed to be about talent and influences, not sales or popularity. Most everyone agrees the best live album ever recorded is Waiting For Columbus. Even in the short time he was here, Lowell George was a huge influence on all that he came in contact with. Just ask Mick Jagger and Jackson Browne.
FRANK ZAPPA is another unbelievably talented and influential musician who is often overlooked.
MOTLEY CRUE
I've been waiting for RUSH a long time. Let's see... they have the best... if not one of the top 5 rock-n-roll drummers of all time (Neil Peart). Their bassist… (Geddy Lee) again one the best in rock-n-roll music, as it seems like every bass player wants to play like him. And Alex Lifeson – their guitar master… he’s incredible. In any other band, he would be the shinning star. They started playing in 1973….’73 …and they are still together. That’s 37 two years…37 years… talk about longevity. How many band have been together for 37 years. They are respected by many other musicians. I don’t get it… makes no sense…. No sense at all.
Chicago too… unbelievable!
I think it's pretty safe to say "The Rock Hall Of Fame" is out of touch.
Emerson Lake & Palmer – Them not being in the HOF shows what a joke it is....
And two more I forgot...
Frank Zappa
Nick Lowe
X
XTC
Replacements
Squeeze
Public Enemy
Bert Blyleven!
Rush = Most boring band ever.......along w/Styx, Journey, Foreigner, Kansas
DEF LEPPARD
Neil Diamond!!
When are Drive-By Truckers eligible for induction? Best band in America.
They should induct Slayer and force Joni Mitchell to do the induction speech. "Ladies and Gentlemen, the next honor of induction goes to a band that wrote lovelorn ditties that explored the condition of the human heart. Songs such as "Angel Of Death", "Necrophobic", and a song I feel would have felt right at home in my album, Court and Spark...."Mandatory Suicide", have lifted the spirit of a whole generation. "
"Ladies and Gentlemen.....SLAYER.
*terrified silence*
Overall, I think the HOF has done a good job, although there are some notable innovators that aren't in yet. I think Ann & Nancy Wilson (Heart), along with Howard Leese, should be in soon, as they blazed the rock and roll trail for many women who came behind them. I think their 1980's hits were viewed as an integrity "sellout", but it doesn't nullify the groundbreaking music that preceeded it.
Smiths – yes
Heart – yes
Stooges – yes
Rundgren – yes
Kate Bush – yes
X – yes yes yes yes
Replacements – yes
Neil Diamond – only as a joke
Chicago is just terrible. Why would anyone like Chicago? Ugh.
Kiss, Alice Cooper, Heart!!!
Rush and Stevie Ray Vaughan should have been in a long time ago.
Huh ?
The Hollies are just now being inducted ? What took so long ?
Shouldnt the Greats from time gone by be the first to be honored ?
What method is used by the voters ? I dont get it...
Michael McDonald—5 time grammy award winner
Doobie Brothers
Heart should definitely be in there, Chicago too
Who are the stooges? Only popular bands that have sold millions of albums should be in it. Hall Of Fame should mean that acts who are FAMOUS and everyone has heard of them. Obscure trendy acts shouldn't be near the Hall Of Fame. The great American Public should decide. The problem is that Rolling Stone still wants to be all counter culture and be trendy. . Chicago should be in there! And Kiss! And Van Halen! Down with trendy liberal magazines like Rolling Stone telling good ole americans what should be in a hall of fame. Make it a public vote!
Most of these on the list I can overlook but I don't know anyone who turns the radio station when Steve Miller Band is on!!! That is classic rock at it's finest. You got "Take the Money and Run", "The Joker" , "Jet Airliner" ,
and "Fly Like an Eagle"...Come on his Godfather was even Les Paul!!!
You would think he would have some pull just by dropping that name.
Wake up Hall of Fame before I start with talking about George Thorogood...where's he at?
RUSH deserves it, no doubt.
Just shows how irrelevant the Hall of Fame is...
The Hall of Fame should be just that...for those with established FAME. Obscure bands/artists have no place in a Hall of Fame. Bseides, most of these obscure bands got their "brilliant/genius" tag from a single work, and had no lasting impact on the music industry. It would be like putting a football player in because he had one great game. I mean, seriously. I'll admit I'm not a hardcore music afficianado, but when I haven't even heard of a band/artist, how famous can they be? The FAME needs to be put back into the Hall of Fame.
Forgot a few others...
The Moody Blues (can't believe they aren't in)
Todd Rundgren
Jethro Tull
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Heart
Dick Dale
The E Street Band
X, the punker band out of Los Angeles.
They have been one of the greatest, most enduring, and influential bands that is still making music today.
30+ years later, I am still listening to their tunes.
They were ground-breakers and well-deserve a spot in the hall of fame.
what about Boston, The Guess Who, Pablo Cruise, Level 42, Simply Red, etc, etc?
The HOF is a HOJ – if you believe that this has any credibility then you need to put your IPOD in the drawer and watch TV – which is all crap – see the reference.
If it wasn't for The Stooges and MC5, I am not sure that which we call "punk" would be where it is today.
RUSH is the biggest omission in my opinion, but I don't know every band that has been snubbed .
I don't understand people saying "I don't know who they are so they must not be very good". Not only for RUSH, but any band. Are you authorities?
Halls of Fame – whether RnR or Baseball – are all jokes, anyway. Why bother to make a fuss about it?
Thanks for putting Rush on this list! I love ABBA but how are they "rock and roll"? I don't know maybe the guys in Rush are happy to be left out if that's who their company would be...
Red Hot Chili Peppers should be most definitely be in that hall of fame!
I am not so sure about Kiss .
Actually, I think the biggest snub of all is Brian Epstein. For gosh sakes, the man MADE the Beatles.
Obviously Rush, Yes as has been noted thousands of times, but Boston is missing too.
Only three albums, but they created the Rockman pre-amp and changed the rock guitar sound forever.
Rush? Really? Bleh.
Many great guy bands have been passed over, however, Joan Jett is pure Rock n Roll and has never sold out to pop rock. She has been in a band since she was 16 with The Runaways. She still plays and sounds as good as 30 years ago. The need to change the name to the Music Hall of Fame cause it ain't rock n roll.
Billy Idol maybe Generation X
Anyone who thinks Depeche Mode doesn't belong in the HOF because they don't play rock music hasn't seen them live. They rock hard.
Scratching my head at the omission of Kiss, Heart...Joan Jett deserves to be there as well.
Who are these clowns that decide who gets int the hall of fame. They should be indicted to the hall of shame for not making and allowing groups that people admire and stand the test of time.
Dire Straits
Warren Zevon
YES
it's still a little way off, but the only "new" band that should be getting in is PEARL JAM. ok, i'll give you the other Seattle bands from that time. but PJ is the only one left, and still pumping out good stuff. the music that is out there now SUCKS
Just hearing bands they've omitted makes me sick. How can they ignore greats like Kiss, Rush, Cheap Trick, Peter Frampton, Heart, Bon Jovi, Journey, and Foreigner? It's disgusting and makes me sick to my stomach. All of them inspired me to start playing the bass guitar, and guitar. Rock and Roll wouldn't be where it is today without them.
From a technical musicianship perspective, what about Toto? Not only did these guys have a great run as a band, they individually played on hundreds of some of the most important albums of our time as the most sought after session musicians in the 70's, 80's and 90's.
BADFINGER!
The Stooges have been eligible since 1994. That it took this time to let them in is some kind of crime. If I were Iggy I'd flip everyone in the room the bird when they get inducted tonight.
It's hard to believe that Chicago, Moody Blues, and Foreigner and Alice Cooper haven't made it. At last check, neither has Johnny Rivers (Secret Agent Man, Memphis and many others). He had hits in 4 decades (50's, 60's, 70's and 80's).
Roxy Music (one of the most innovative British bands of the 70s), Tom Waits.
Def Leppard has 2 diamond awards. They were at one point after hysteria the biggest band in the world! they have consistantly put out good music for the last 30 years! Also where is rush, journey, styx, and Bon Jovi again consistantly selling over the last 30 years! and yet we induct ABBA? something seriously needs changing!
when you see so many great bands passed over,,,e.p Rush,,Red hot,,ect
makes you wonder how the whole process works or doesn't!
i mean really ,no offence to Abba fans,,but calling them Rock and Roll Hall of famers hahaha,,,what a joke!! too many uninformed corporate people making bad decissions,,,,
why don't we just put Dan Marino in the Baseball Hall of Fame too!!
anybody with any knowledge of who the true rock and roll heroes are should not give the Hall a lick of importance unless they get thier act together and quickley!
Poco – groundbreaking band that defined country-rock. original band was made up of richie furay and jim messina from the buffalo springfield. jim messina went on to found loggins and messina. original bass player randy meisner, and his replacement, timothy b schmit, went on to play in the eagles. drummer george grantham was the best high harmony drummer ever to walk the planet. mainstay rusty young could play anything with strings and make it sound like something completely different. he did hendrix before hendrix did hendrix. glenn frey and don henley watched poco rehearse while sitting at furay's feet. no poco?...no eagles.
Marshall Tucker Band – a glorious plending of gospel, blues, rock, jazz, and counrty, which resulted in a sound of its own. toy and tommy caldwell, george mccorkle, doug gray, and paul riddle. amazing band.
Tower of Power – the best horn section on the planet. they have played with everyone. the go to guys when you want horns with a punch. great soul/funk albums in their own right.
Leon Russell – from his days as a Spector musician and arranger, to a band leader for Cocker, to his own great albums, he deserves to be at the front of the line.
Tom Dowd – responsible for so many great albums, clapton, skynyrd, allmans. how could he not be there.
Ed Sullivan – As much as any DJ that had an influence, this man should be in there. Who was the first to feature the beatles, stones, all of the british invasion, doors, mamas and papas, etc.
just my humble $0.02.
Easy answer–RUSH
The HOF has been aggravating people for years over their irrational choices. It seems to be their intention to anger people.
The Sex Pistols profanely declined the honor and compared the HOF to "urine in wine."
If I were one of the members of Rush or Yes and the HOF finally decided to induct me after years and years and years of snubbing over less worthy "rock" artists, I would tell them to shove their induction up their asses. Just sayin'.
I've been there a few times and its just a joke. I'm not sure any of these bands even want to be in the "Hall of Fame"... Seriously, Maddona next to Elvis?
Bon Jovi is being snubbed!
Well, I always vote for the Moody Blues, and I think Alice Cooper, Heart, ELO, and Bon Jovi deserve the honor as well. I'm shocked that they aren't in the Hall of Fame already!
laura nyro
IRON MAIDEN is the biggest omission!!! I mean come now, they are still selling out arenas all over the globe, headlining festivals, and doing it while tearing up the stage. These guys are a touring band always has been, and always will. Def Leppard??? please, what have they played the N Dakota state fair??? please....
El Mike
Slayer!!!!!!!
My vote is for Meat Loaf. Talk about your unique contributions to rock and roll! He was in the first-ever rock musical on Broadway ("Hair"); in the first-ever cult rock movie ("Rocky Horror"); still holds one of the top five albums of all time ("Bat Out of Hell"); Grammy winner; hard worker and still rockin'!
I'm also pullin' for Alice Cooper. These two made theatrics a big part of REAL rock and roll. The Hall's refusal to recognize their contributions to keeping rock alive and exciting is a travesty. Seems its attempts to garner the favor of the youngsters by inducting these newer, insipid forms of music that are NOT true rock and roll diminshes the Hall. By definition, ABBA, Madonna and rap and hip-hop are not rock and roll, just pop and disco.
Here it goes in no particular order: The Cure (gods of goth and folly, often copied but NEVER duplicated), The Smiths (possibly the most influential group in the last 30 years), Depeche Mode (showed electronic music can have emotion and a soul), Kraftwerk (godfathers of everything electronic), Stevie Ray Vaughn (guitar GOD), Red Hot Chili Peppers (alternative funk in the mainstream...nugh' said), The PIxies (godfathers and mother of grunge) and to circumvent the rules we could lump New Order with Joy Division together (the Kool Aid so many bands have drank)
when you see so many great bands passed over,,,e.p Rush,,Red hot,,ect
makes you wonder how the whole process works or doesn't!
i mean really ,no offence to Abba fans,,but calling them Hall of Fame hall of famers hahaha,,,what a joke!! too many uninformed corporate people making bad decissions,,,,
why don't we just put Dan Marino in the Baseball Hall of Fame too!!
anybody with any knowledge of who the true rock and roll heroes are should not give the Hall a lick of importance unless they get thier act together and quickley!
Elliott Smith, DMB & AIC for starters...Stevie Ray too...
Yes to Cheap Trick, Bad Company, Hall & Oates, The Cure, & Alice Cooper. T. Rex should squeak by someday too. The others are too poppy or too minor.
The "Rock Me Amadeus" dude should be in too. Letting every other crap in.
He wrote and toured whether he was up or down, Warren Zevon.
Warren Zevon.
CHICAGO ..not yet there..thats amazing !!!
Foreigner - ARE YOU SERIOUS??
SOCIAL DISTORTION and X should be given serious consideration. They were pioneering bands in the Southern California punk rock movement along with others like the Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Descendents.
Social Distortion and X's music reached the mainstream and still are in movies and TV shows today, most people just don't realize it or know their music history. They are still making new music, still touring and broke the barrier between the crappy music scene and the underground in the late 70s / early 80s. We need more pioneers like that in music today.
What, no William Hung (American Idol phenomena of of 2004).
Would truly add much-needed legitimacy to HOF.
My vote is Meat Loaf for his unmatched contribution to rock and roll. Talk about unique! And his creds? In the first-ever rock musical on Broadway ("Hair"); in the first-ever cult rock movie (Rocky Horror); still holds one of the top five best-selling albums EVER; Grammy winner; hard worker and still rockin'!
I'm also pulling for Alice Cooper. The Hall's refusal to recognize the theatrical contributions to REAL rock and roll is a travesty. Rock and roll must have a definition - and in its attempt to interest the youngsters by including these new, insipid forms of music that are NOT ROCK, diminishes true rock and roll.
The Smiths
Moody Blues a fantastic group , they keep getting missed. Who makes the decision??
Carly Simon should have been inducted..she is a superb Artist with countless songs still played to this day!!
I just say this:
K.I.S.S.... when you're a musician, and have a Sat morning cartoon made after you, I'd think you deserve to get in. The only other musical acts I know of like that are the Beatles and the Jackson 5.
Hall and Oates: Speaking of the Jacksons, MJ attributed his inspiration for "Billie Jean" to H&O's "I Can't go For That". 'nuff said.
Chicago: Anytime your music receives regular radio rotation 38 years later...I'd say you deserve induction. According to Billboard, Chicago was the leading U.S. singles charting group during the 1970s. They have sold over 120 million albums worldwide, scoring 22 Gold, 18 Platinum, and 8 Multi-Platinum albums. Over the course of their career they have charted five No. 1 albums, and have had twenty-one top ten hits (from wikipedia).
wow. need I go on?
justin says "The rock and roll HOF is a joke. First of all it should be in MEMPHIS!!!! Where R n R was invented. Name one Band from lousy cleavland???? Elvis and John Cash-thats what its all about."
How can you say R&R was invented in one city/recording studio? HOF is a joke but have you heard of Pere Ubu and friends from Cleveland? Probably not. BTW, Elvis took a lot from the black groups from that time and didn't get any recognition at the time until later.
Who cares about who is inducted? They should call it the Rock N Roll Hall of Lame. I took roadtrip to the museum only to find it was about as impressive as a hard Rock Cafe, but without the food. They need to give bands inducted an exhibit rather than a big mish mosh of crap. Their was a Britney Spears outfit along side outfits of true rock legends. Britney Spears?! Lame.
For those who think the original Alice Cooper Band was just a freak show with no substance I suggest you listen to the "Killer" and "Love It to Death" albums: exceptional songwriting and guitar work.
Stevie Ray and Jethro Tull.
The chili peppers do not deserve to be there, at least not yet. not when the aforementioned bands have not been showcased
Is Jimi Hendrix really not in the HOF ??
Scorpions! Best live band to ever hit a stage!!!
I'm boycotting the Hall until Rush is in there.
Sorry Gay4Cash, Bon Jovi DID NOT pave the way for glam rock. Maybe Hair Band Rock but not glam rock. I would have to say Sweet paved the way or Bowie.
I would have to go with all that you mentioned. Especially Chicago, The Moody Blues and Rush.
Steppenwolf. How many R&R bands have a song that is truly an anthem? Included with Born to be Wild is Sookie Sookie, The Pusher, Rock Me, and something called Magic Carpet Ride! John Kay and company are way over due!
As for those bashing the blues or saying they don't belong, go back to music school. ZZ Top, Led Zepplin, Jimi Hendrix, etc. all used overdriven blues.
Yes. How could Yes be overlooked? Seriously – those guys are in there 60's, and have been releasing progressive, cutting-edge albums SINCE the 60's - EVEN if you overlook the cheesy 80's Trevor Rabin years. Just about every one of those guys was a classically trained musician.. look at Rick Wakeman - that dude has put out more solo albums than probalby 1/2 of this years inductees combined! The hall of fame is a joke – just like the Hollywood walk of fame.. they give a star to everyone, except anyone who really deserves one. BOLLUCKS!
Steppenwolf
Guess Who
Moody Blues
Definitely Rush, but I just assumed Kiss would already be in there! Agree on SRV too...and good as they were, I won't cry myself to sleep if Hall & Oates don't get the nod.
What about the most major influence on Hip Hop, Dance, electronic. Everything. KRAFTWERK
THE MONKEES!
Also, Todd Rundgren.
If you are going to talk about Rush and Yes, you have to include Jethro Tull as well as Supertramp.
great country rocker band poco
Delaney Bramlett
RUSH, RUSH, RUSH. Without there would be no metal!!
The Cure: Over 35 years of music and still influential; the catalogue of music is amazing, just to name a few:
-Pornography
-Seventeen Seconds
-Kiss Me ""
-Disintegration
-Bloodflowers
-4:13 Dream
And, don't forget Robert Smith's ongoing collaboration with other artists as well as some solo work...
The Chili Peppers really need to be in there. They have been rock solid for decades and they are STILL making great songs.
KISS!!!! ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!
X
Rush
Van Halen
Foreigner
Moody Blues
This is for the two people who want Van Halen in the Hall of Fame.
Van Halen was induced in 2007.
OK WTF, Abba get in, on what planet is Abba rock and roll?!! But no Kiss, Alice Cooper, and Rush! Insane!
Hey, how many of you remember the big battle between DETROIT and CLEVELAND when they were choosing a place for the Hall Of Fame?
Had DETROIT (the HOME of Rock N Roll) won that battle, every ROCK N ROLL band that DESERVES to be in would be IN today!!!
But NOOOO, those PU$$IES in CLEVELAND had to turn it into an ABBA concert!!
So here's MY vote:
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
MITCH RYDER AND THE DETROIT WHEELS
Leaving out Jethro Tull again is a shocker and the hall of fame has no credibility with me.
What about "Yes". I spent a lot of time in my teen years learning the lyrics to their songs. The were so unique and talented. I think Jon Anderson is not well, so it would be nice to honor him now.
RRHOF sponsoring a show March 27th in Cleveland featuring Grand Funk Railroad, Paul Revere & The Raiders, The Turtles & Little Anthony & The Imperials. Out of this line up ONLY Little Anthony is inducted, and the rest not, and the RRHOF is sponsoring this show, but won't induct these groups! Please!
Nothing like a 100,000 fans screaming MAIDEN MAIDEN MAIDEN!!!
Up the Irons!!!
Wishbone ash because they influenced so many bands of the 70's and they are still touring.
The R&R Hall of Fame has been a joke since the beginning when they decided to put it in Cleveland instead of Memphis, so why should the continuing foolishness surprise anyone? Also, They have a limited # to induct each year, and always try to induct at least one act of great influence. Still no excuse for omitting some of these.
Jeez.... if someone doesn't know the Stooges then you shouldn't comment here. Please go back and learn how music has evolved. Forget sales/exposure. I'ts all about advancing music. Everything evolves. Iggy learned from the jazz greats as well as others. They say Ike Turner's Rocket 88 was the first R&R single but that can be discussed until your nuts. It is an awesome single. Very bluesy/swing.
As far as the small list above.... to me Alice and Public Enemy are up there. You say early rap is not R&R... it evolved from many different sounds that was/is in R&R long ago and today.
Dave Matthews Band
Rush is by far the biggest omission..period. Yes also should be considered.
Yet again, you pathetic fools have failed to induct Napoleon XIV (the guy who sang, "They're Coming To Take Me Away HA-HAAA"! But, soon his minions will rise and you WILL all be doomed!! DOOMED,I SAY!! Bwhahaha.
BWHAHAHAHA!!
BWWWAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
I agree with Mike that Rush is the biggest snub because percussionist gives props to Neil Pert!
Gregory Wied is also correct about Stevie Ray Vaughan!
T REX is good for my money!
love you I really do love you.
Abba screams Disco? Jimmy Cliff screams Reggae? Did we not have enough rock and roll bands available? Stooges are the only ones I'd put on par with the other bands in that list for making it in, if just for influence if nothing else. Hollies and Genesis I get where they're coming from at least.
YES should have been inducted years ago.....Get them in!!!!!!
I agree with you about YES!!! I live in Philadelphia and went to city hall to meet the band and celebrate the day the city declared August 26th as Yes Day! Yes has sold out more concerts in Philly than any other band. And they're not in??? What a joke!
Pat Benatar, Heart, Moody Blues
I agree that obscurity seems to be a plus for the voters. From the list, how can KISS possibly not be in when the Stooges get in? That is ridiculuous, regardless of personal taste in music. While most on the list above deserve consideration, the leaders in my book would be The Cure, Chicago, Bad Company, Journey, Foreigner, and the Red Hot Chili Peppers (althopugh the Peppers have not been "snubbed" at this point..
One word >>> THE CARS <<<
Alice Cooper, The Guess Who, Red Hot Chili Peppers, Rush, & Yes are the ones I think should be in there & in that order. They all have large unique catalogs, not just one-hit-album wonders or sappy fluff rock. They are the real deal – musicians & lyricists with trend setting style.
KISS is a famous band but mostly because of their marketing. They're all about the silly Halloween costumes IMO – not quite ready for the HOF when so many other iconic bands have yet to be inducted. They'll get there eventually.
Of course the RRHOF is arguably a meaningless marketing gimmick/scam anyway, I mean can you take them seriously when they induct ABBA over Alice Cooper. I like ABBA but get real.
not having the Chili Peppers inducted on their first year of eligibility to me says more about the Hall of Fame than it does about the Chili Peppers.
From now on I couldn't care less about the Hall of Fame, its probably just a decadent and deprived industry gathering that stands against Rock N' Roll.
Are you serious? The Chili's are NOT being inducted on their first year of eligibility?? That's all I needed to know. What a f'ing joke.
If Deep Purple is not in, I will Smoke my Water!
Here was Gene's thoughts on Kiss being left out in an interview he did in 2008
"Simmons also expressed his discontent with the fact that KISS, which he co-founded in 1972, has not yet been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. "A lot of those guys on the board can go and get my sandwich when I want, and I mean that in the nicest way," he said. "There are disco bands, rap bands, Yiddish folk song bands in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but not KISS. I believe we have more gold records in America than any other group, but it's OK."
once people stop showing up at their museum–because no one cares ( or knows) about half the people they induct, they will reconsider their process and stop acting like elitist and allow commercially successful artists to enter. RUSH RUSH RUSH RUSH
Iron maiden,motorhead
Give it up for Yes, Rush, Kiss (yeah, they were great in Concert), Van halen if they are not in, and I have not heard wether or not DIRE STRAITS are in. They put on a great great show everytime. Warren Zevon not in? Oh the humanity!!!
Where is the sense in picking some of these groups over others. I have to be honest I don't listen or read much about the RRHF because of the bad press omitting great like Black Sabbath, Chicago, and others that paved the way. What about the greatest female punker ever, WOW, Wendy O Williams? The plasmatics were the punk group that Blondie and others tried to be. W.O.W. is dead, long live the queen of punk.
Don't understand How YES is not in there one of the 70's biggest bands would sell out every time.
What about Neil Diamond? Big oversight here!
That the Moody Blues and Chicago are not in the Hall of Fame is embarrassing beyond belief.
I see from the other notes that Yes and Alan Parsons are not in, which is a shame and my buddy Todd Rundgren should be, if he is not.
OMG....someone actually said Duran Duran should be in the rock n roll hall of fame!
What about Neil Diamond????? Big oversight here!
Cooper:
John Lee Hooker is in (1991), and deserves it.
His songs have been done by ZZ Top, Cream, Jimi Hendrix, Led Zepplin, and others.
He influenced bands such as The Rolling Stones and Fleetwood Mac.
You might want to give him a listen, try his album "The Healer" with Santana.
duran duran now that is a good one lol
The Eccentrix!!!
Peter Frampton not in the HOF. All credibility is out the door as far as I'm concerened.
Rush & YES – whether the HOF likes them or not, their respective sounds have been hugely influential, and if that's not a main criteria for induction, what is?
The hall of fame is so political. It should be called the "pop" hall of fame. Anyways, these bands/performers should be there:
The Small Faces
Tom Waits
The Jam
UFO
Nick Lowe
Gram Parsons
Motorhead
Iron Maiden
Thin Lizzy
Arthur Lee/Love
The Smiths
We'll see what next year brings.
The article makes it seem as though the "Rock Hall" has some kind of credibility. If I recall correctly, it is essentially controlled by a few people at Rolling Stone, one of whom essentially said that Rush would not be admitted so long as he had a say in it (sorry, no source, but that particular comment always stuck with me).
The "Rock Hall" is as (ir)relevant to music today as Rolling Stone is.
Just goes to show you that the panel choosing the artists never actually lived life during the last 50 years. As usual its all about the politics and very little about reality. Majority of those artists named above helped shape the lives of people all around the world over the past 40 years, much more than those currently being given their induction (not to mention countless others already from past inductions).
In no particular order:
Alice Cooper
Zombies/Argent/Russ Ballard
Deep Purple
Yes
Mott the Hoople/Ian Hunter/Mick Ronson
Rory Gallagher
Roy Buchanan
Jethro Tull
Procol Harum
ELP
Lou Reed
SRV
Leon Russel
Talking Heads
George Thorogood
Dire Straits
Meatloaf
Ted Nugent
Joan Jett
Slade
UFO/Scorpians
CCR/John Fogerty
Steely Dan
Three words: Stevie Ray Vaughan
ll cool j before public enemy.
pubic enemy is most overrated hip hop band ever.
controversial yes, but not even close to being as relevant or the longevity of ll cool j.
even beastie boys come before pubic enemy.
The list is full of great talent. I'm surprised a lot of the groups/artists aren't already in the Hall Of Fame.
The biggest miss, isn't even on that list. I think Def Leppard should be in The R-N-R HOF.
What a joke!
I think Rush is the biggest snub, I just wonder what the Hall of Fames thinking is. Because they're not thinking at all. They have a huge following and many hits. Sell out concert after concert. What do they have to do.
If Chicago ever got inducted, I doubt they would show up!!! ROHF is a joke. Rolling Stone magazine is good for one thing......TOILET PAPER! Why is T Rex on that list????
All these "snubbed" bands are influential and have added to the canon of rock music. I think everyone on that list deserves to be in. Plus the Replacements. And probably Joan Jett, too. And while we're at it...Iron Maiden & Judas Priest.
Who are The Stooges?! Okay, I'm sorry some of you are unfamiliar with who they are, but this Detroit combo were the first wave of punk rock before it was called Punk Rock. Led by Iggy Pop, their album Raw Power was a redlined clarion call for every zipper-headed, bellbottomed Peacenick to put down the Flower Power and kick out the jams. Their range of influence is apparent in everything from early R.E.M. to Nirvana and beyond.
I might also point out that Uncle Tupelo (whose members now largely comprise the band Wilco) did an extraordinarily notable cover of The Stooges song, "I Wanna Be Your Dog," by rearranging it as a mid-tempo Alt-Country lament.
Yes should have be admitted long ago. Granted they only had one "hit" but they are the poster boys of an entire category of rock: Prog Rock
And they continue to have a cult following.
The Cars
My three.
The Police
Queen
Poison
Thats all I gotta say.
The Residents. Like THAT will ever happen.
do you really think Depeche Mode / The Cure / Morrissey / Tom Waits / Shane McGowan really care about being in the HOF? does it make them any less influential or successful if they aren't? history will still remember them with or without the HOF's acceptance.
Stevie Ray Vaughan and Double Trouble Long overdue.
The rock and roll HOF is a joke. First of all it should be in MEMPHIS!!!! Where R n R was invented. Name one Band from lousy cleavland???? Elvis and John Cash-thats what its all about.
abba! are you kidding me? omitting rush and the chill peppers is disgraceful. there are a lot of great bands/artists who are more deserving than abba. yes and the moody blues are perfect examples of groups that should be in the hall. starting to think less and less of the hall of fame each year.
What about Dis & Dat? or The Great! Huff & Stuff! Who nominates this crowd?
I don't like KISS either but they should certainly be inducted...
weird al yankovic.
RUSH mofos !!!!!!!!!!!!!1
T-Rex is the clear standout on the list. For their unique sound, innovation and inspiration. They are still being ripped off today!
How about Jethro Tull & Yes!!!!! – I will never go to the HOF until there induction....
JOY DIVISION!!!!
The main thing is that the bands in the Hall of Fame don't suck. Alice Cooper and Kiss sucked back in the day and they still suck. They belong in the Clown Hall of Fame. Their music was so bad that they had to dress up in goofy costumes to sell plastic. Little kids liked the costumes and fireworks and carving up bloody dolls, so Cooper and Kiss made lots of money, but neither band is fit to carry a guitar pick for Carlos Santana, Eddie Cochran, Kim Simmons, Chuck Berry, Al Cooper, Jeff Beck, Richie Valens, and any of the others who are real legends of Rock and Roll. And Neil Diamond? Forget it. He belongs in the Lame Ass Pop Hall of Shame.
Others worth mentioning I think definitely should not be passed over:
Kraftwerk (They've been nominated a few times, I think, but should have already been in by the year 2000)
Devo (Why haven't they been nominated yet? They paved the way for the MTV, for better or worse, and were more punk than the Sex Pistols)
Tears For Fears (their influence is wayyyyyy underrated [just listen to the new Yeasayer record], even if they had a few deriative tendancies)
rush and gg should be in, and bands like the cure are rock no matter what anyone says, they should be in too, i believe that Joy Division should be in as well
Rush is the greatest omission.
KISS NO
Depeche Mode NO
The Cure NO
Chicago YES
Hall and Oates NO
Rush YES
Alice Cooper YES
Moody Blues YES
E.L.O. NO
Cheap Trick YES
Bad Company YES
Peter Frampton NO
Heart YES
T-Rex YES
Bon Jovi YES
Journey YES
Foreigner YES
Public Enemy NO
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) NO
So guy mentioned Stephen Stills (Solo) ?? Bread? J Giles? Badfiger?
Good bads, not worthy of being in a hall of fame. Stills with Buffalo Springfield and CSN but as a solo artists???? COME ON DUDE!!!
King Crimson, the Godfathers of all prog rock and alternative rock.
Well, since the HOF finally inducted Black Sabbath a few years ago, and now Metallica, they should begin inducting the other great heavy bands. Starting with Judas Priest and Iron Maiden (who should have been inducted prior to Metallica), the HOF could continually recognize the best, most complex, and most demanding music of all. After Priest & Maiden, the next few years should see bands like Slayer, Anthrax, and Megadeth insucted into the HOF.
Several more should be there – However, the Moody Blues are amoung the very best rock has had.
IRON MAIDEN
Still packing MASSIVE Arena's worldwide..............and still getting no props...................................Who need the ROCK and ROLL Hall of fame anyway? Nope the RNR Hall is about as big of a joke as the oscars, grammy's, etc........
Total manufactured crap.....
Jethro Tull.
All other slights pale in comparison to this omission.
Moody Blues and Jethro Tull....absolutely.
Red Hot Chili Peppers do not deserve to be inducted; they are radio-friendly, but none of their songs are very good or have made a monumental impact on rock.
What about Ted Nugent? He deserves to be there.
Alan Parsons..I mean, c'mon now...if he doesnt get in for his music, he sure gets in as producer of Dark Side of the Moon ?
"ABBA" and "rock and roll" should not be used in the same sentence.....
No question about it–Chicago is the greatest band ever!!
Then Rush, Bad Company, Journey, Foreigner ect.......
"politics in the hall of fame?"
RHCP should be in for sure, not sure how ABBA is rock and roll but ok they have been around and have been a huge influence over the years.
If they dont allow Nirvana in when they become eligible ( I think 2016)then I will think the whole thing is a joke since they changed music for ever when Nevermind came out and sold more records then Thriller or any Elvis cd ever did
Kiss sucks period. Of course if the HOF can induct the likes of that sleeze-ball patty Smith.....well I guess anything could happen!!
The Clash
they paved their own way
Farrah Fawcett and Bea Arthur.
Yes, a lot of these comments are rolling me... yes btw, why haven't Black Sabbath, or Rush been inducted... What a sham. RRHF is a scam.
The Steve Miller Band certainly should be in given the range, depth and longevity of the material.
One not on that list that needs to be is Yes. For 40 years, these guys have paved the way for an entire genre of music. Their songs, albums, and live shows are the stuff of legends. I would also give an honorable mention to Tom Waits and KISS.
Depeche Mode, one of the most influential bands for many musicians today for techno. Several younger, famous musicians now mention Depeche Mode as being a major influence in their musical development.
Any Rock-N-Roll of Fame without Deep Purple, Rush, and Grand Funk Railroad is suspect. Anyone who grew up in the 1970s knows who was rockin and who was not. Believe me...ABBA was not!
I'm glad to see a lot of people remembered Warren Zevon. He was a genius and definitely deserves to be in the hall. There's also Meat Loaf, Neil Diamond, and of course Ringo Starr as a solo artist. He has some great overlooked work out there.
A good idea gone terribly off track. Could they not keep the R&R HOF for rock only? Abba, Madonna, seriously? The only way to save it now is to rename it the Popular Music HOF and forget the rock pretense. If this was truly a R&R HOF, Rush would obviously be a no-brainer. As would Van Halen if what the previous blogger said was true about them not being in. The voters and caretakers of this organization have done a monumentally poor job of keeping it true to rock music and making sure only the true giants of the genre get in. Too bad.
Jethro Tull, Kansas...
it is insane that Heart is not in the hall yet. and speaking of women who have given us some enduring, not to mention kick-a** rock, may i also make a pitch for pat benatar?
Chicago, their eponymous CTA album of 1969 is great. give it a listen
The R-N-R HOF is a joke. Who cares?
I was a bit surprised that ABBA were inducted considering they are not rock, but neither are they pure disco so you can't dismiss their music based on those grounds. Their music crossed many different genres. Whatever the case, it's a bit unfair to dismiss them if you haven't taken a listen to them since the 70's – in which case you'd still be stuck in the 70's.
Yes, they sold and continue to sell a gazillion records (e.g., they were/are commercially successful). Their image is not especially hip, the lyrics are clunky, but regardless, and despite their faults, they have left a lasting musical legacy, whether it's your cup of tea or not. Given that the group is not originally from an English-speaking country, that the lead vocals were mostly by women (rock seems to favor male vocals), and they they have never been given much serious respect – ever, the group's music has held up amazingly well over time and the group deserves to be recognized.
YES
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
Just one more reason not to visit Ohio.
Agreed with down with Bon Jovi, but no way are they glam rock. Crappy 80's hair metal, yeah, but definitely not glam in any way shape or form. Somebody needs to sit this guy down with some Bowie or Queen or Velvet Underground. They might change their tune about it being "shallow" and "inconsequential". Just wanted to clear that up. Other than that, hell yes to The Cure!
@Regina
Are you kidding me? Sounds like you haven't listened to the band since '89. In that case, I would suggest you shut it. Oh and The Cure...a "rock" band. LOL, you have got to be kidding me. When they have a Slit My Wrist HOF, they can be the first inductees in.
With the majority of names listed, the name should change from Rock and Roll hall of fame to "Music Hall of Fame".
Does anyone even remember what rock and roll is anymore?
Come on feel the noise !!
SLADE
Patti Smith
Roxy Music
The O'Jays
The JAM
and .....
RUSH
YES
KING CRIMSON
JUTHRO TULL
TODD RUNDGREN
ABBA gets in and the Moody Blues aren't in! The MOODY BLUES, quality and innovation, should put them in. That's crazy.
There are some interesting choices on your list Chicago, especially as CTA, should be there.
I don't consider the ability to put on makeup a qualification for the HOF, KISS doesn't belong.
Can anyone think of Woodstock without having “Going Home” by “Ten Years After” going through their head?
Where is Stevie Ray Vaughan? How can it be possible not to have SRV?
Jethro Tull
The Marshal Tucker Band
Dire Straits
Even NRPS is better than this years group.
you're joking right? where are THE NEW YORK DOLLS?
RRHOF is a disgrace.
Kate Smith
Nat King Cole
Jimmie Rodgers
Al Jolson
Besse Smith
Fats Waller
John Lee Hooker
Glenn Miller
Buddy Rich
Soupy Sales
Walter Cronkite
Julia Childs
Jeffrey Dahlmer
Bonnie Parker
Aaron Copeland
Ray Bradbury
Jim Jones
Mother Theresa
Charles Manson
Wild Man Fisher
Ethel Rosenberg
Stewie Griffen
...i mean as long as we're throwing out meaningless names....
If my band were inducted, I'd be ashamed. The R&R Hall of LAME!!!
BLUE CHEER. We are talking about bands that influenced ROCK music.
Iggy and the Stooges
MC5
Adam and the Ants
Joy Division
New Order
The Pogues/ Shane McGowan
Tony Wilson (Non Performer)
Happy Mondays
Tom Waits
Public Enemy
Screaming Jay Hawkins
Dick Dale
Tenacious D! (just kidding). Heart, RHCP, Journey,. and Rush are locks.
The Monkees!
There is no reason, apart from Jann's overblown ego, for them to not be there.
They are as valid as any other band of their time...more so in some cases. There have been dozens of petitions demanding this. Let the people have a voice. Put the Monkees in The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame!
While I don’t think KISS offered anything that was particularly a musical revelation, I do recall their immense popularity in the 70s, and it is clear that they heavily influenced the metal movement which came later, so sure, they should get in.
Alice Cooper, definitely. And what about The Zombies? They're not there.
Iron Maiden is the biggest omission, but given the list of 'talent' already inducted, don't bother. Don't sully their greatness by adding them to this list of mediocrity. True music fans don't need the RRHOF to tell them who is good and who isn't.
this guy keelak just called the beatles and the rolling stones "hack" bands
I think we should collectively stone keelak Saudi style!
That being said, I concur Ian Anderson and Jethro Tull should be a shoo in!
I don't think Vanilla Ice has hit the 25 year mark so we I'm not upset he's not on the list yet.
The Stooges??? Larry, Curly, and Moe?
Anson Williams, Kermit the Frog, William Shatner, and your mom. Why are these missing???? COME ON RRHOF!
Supertramp.
Cheap Trick continues to both tour and put out new, critically acclaimed albums. The Latest peaked at number 2 in the UK. How many bands who have been around 30 years can say that? Glaring omission.
If all the bands that deserved to be in were in, then no one would pay any attention to the RnR HOF. Thats why some seemingly smaller artists get in before many that deserve it. Since they keep denying bands that deserve it, we're here talking about
Bon Jovi haters are stupid. Bon Jovi!
I hear a lot of people complaining about the Stooges. That's ridiculous. The Stooges invented a genre of music (punk rock, for those who do not know). The HoF is about creative ingenuity, not simply rehashing the same tired crap that plagued the admittedly terrible radio for years. Bands that sold millions of records at the expense of pushing the artistic envelope have no place in the hall of fame. Rock and Roll, like any genre of music is first and foremost an artform.
Patience patience patience...the R&R HOF has an enormous backlog of talent to induct here...they haven't been open that long...
The Rock Hall has completely ignored the biggest bands of the late 1970's and early 1980's.
Is this because they were commercially successful?Come on..Ann and Nancy Wilson of Heart ..were female rock pioneers!
What about Tommy James and The Shondells?
Wait...ABBA is in and Black Sabbath is not...Okay the R&RHOF is offically a joke.
Does any of this really matter? Isn't HOF just something bestowed that everyone already knows? So what if a band makes HOF or not... their music will live on and the people that were affected by their music know in their hearts how great the band was.
The only reason certain bands are passed up is to get everyone riled up and talking about HOF in the first place. If HOF gave out the appropriate awards all at once, no one would talk about it.
All the bands listed that haven't made it yet will be inducted at one point or another... its inevitable.
Journey, Rush, Kiss and Heart YES
Red Hot Chili Peppers, Depche Mode, Bon Jovi and Foreigner MAYBE
Chicago and Hall & Oates NO
Where are the Runaways??????????? Madonna & ABBA? Pleeeze!!!
Madonna is in but Stevie Ray Vaughan AND Jimi Hendrix are not? Stupid hippies runnin' the joint think cheap pop-culture manipulation is more credible than actual talent. Is it a rock n roll hall of fame or a hipster stroke-fest? Hippies always were afraid of real rock. Their hippie BS doesn't operate too well in that arena. Lady Gaga will get in there before Iron Maiden. Hippies stink too!
KISS? Really? Rock? They're nothing more than N'Sync or Backstreet Boys with makep.
I live in Ohio and it's a short trip to Cleveland to see the RRHOF and I won't waste the gas money or the fee to get in because there is so little true rock in the "Rock N Roll" Hall of Fame.
It should be simply the Music Hall of Fame.
Madonna? Ain't rock. ABBA? Ain't rock. Public Enemy (I love 'em, but...) Ain't rock.
If they want to change their name to Music Hall of Fame, great. Until they do, I'm not really paying much attention.
Grand Funk Railroad
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is an absolute joke. First of all Chicago should have been atleast a decade ago. They are one of the largest seeling American rock and roll act of all time, not to mention 21 Top 10 singles, 5 consecutive Number One albums, 11 Number One singles and 5 Gold singles. An incredible 25 of their 32 albums have been certified platinum, and the band has a total of 47 gold and platinum awards. I beleive that is enough said right there!!! Others that should be inducted are Styx, REO Speed Wagon, Journey, and Genesis. What a joke the Rock and Roll Hall is.
Be quiet. I'm listening to my ABBA and Hollies discs. NOT!!!!!
God Bless the people who piped up for the Pixies. They never get their due and everyone from RHCP to Radiohead counts them as an influence. Also, Replacements, Chili Peppers, Smiths, New Order. NEIL SEDAKA is not rock.
Depeche mode isn't even a rock and roll group. Only freaks and depressed people listen to that garbage. Drop them from your list time now. Worse group ever.
Oh my god!!! This snub list is jaw dropping! What about the Scorps man! Robert Palmer?!
Just one on that list has me scratching – The Red Hots. Now, I think they are part of the 80's southern California rock scene, but, not tooo sure. In my view, they may be the first band, artists that you have to question. As the years roll on, there will be a point where the quality of bands ad artists will decline and the HOF a farce.
But my bigger questions are – where are the Soul and Funk artists? Roberta? Aretha? Stevie? Sly? James? Ohio? Earth, Wind? Parliament? Teddy? Luther? Michael? Ojays? The Time? Jacksons? Spinners? Temps? I can go on and on.
Why does it have to be just white acts? Rock n Roll is more than just white rock. I mean, who effing invented Rock N Roll! Jazz?! The Blues!! BeBop?
I share Gene Simmon's distaste for the elitist rock critics who form the board of the RnRHOF. Ultimately its US, the music lovers with no boundaries, or segregations.
I have a huge hall of fame in HD and CD boxes, LPs, etc.
" Roberta? Aretha? Stevie? Sly? James? Ohio? Earth, Wind? Parliament? Teddy? Luther? Michael? Ojays? The Time? Jacksons? Spinners? Temps?"
Aretha- Inducted. Stevie- Inducted.Sly & The Family Stone-Inducted. James Brown-Inducted (but his original singing group, The Famous Flames are not). Parliment/Funkedelic-Inducted. Michael Jackson- Inducted. The O'Jays- Inducted. The Jackson Five- Inducted. The Temptations- Inducted.
Oh Yes..Someone said Jethro Tull...I thought they WOULD be in by now. I love them and still do! Thick as a Brick will be played at my funeral!
The Big Bopper, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jan & Dean, and Jim Croce.
As long as we can include acts who have been hugely influential but are largely unkown to the general public, then I would like to see Cocteau Twins and Sonic Youth inducted.
A bit off topic, but I'm seeing the "Who's The Stooges?" question thrown out there quite a bit. Iggy Pop. Ever hear of that guy? The Stooges music was so bleeding edge and there on-stage performances were way ahead of their time. We are talking punk/HARD rock written in the mid to late 60's that many of the greats imitated. They are totally deserving to be inducted in the HoF.
lets just say it all the bands have given their moments to music from neil diamond, to journey (no voice can compare to(STEVE PERR) his amazing voice there will never be another voice like that- its journeys loss now) to kiss to yes Bon jovi , peter tosh , they all have given something to rock n roll and all are deserving. They are all lengends in their own right, and today's music is all computerized and "american idol" fan based unless something changes we will never see the caliber of talent these groups have given us thru the last 3 decades.
they all deserve it!! and kids today will never have grown up w/ awesome groups & rock the way we were fortunate to have
Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Dead Boys, Yes, and Rush should all be in there. I could care less about the "hair bands".
Maybe they will put in ABA to make us all happy!
Moody Blues. They defined the Concept Album, Genesis and Yes both cite them as major influences in Progressive Rock. Lets not Forget Yes either.
The Moody Blues, of course.
Didn't Rush turn it down to be in the Canadian HOF?
Otherwise, Swervedriver and Curve.
I'm with 'The Lash' – The Pogues should definitely be there. There are SO MANY that should be in there but going by your list the one that stands out to me is 'The Moody Blues' – it's mystifying why they are not there???
LOVE should be inducted into the R&R Hall of Fame. Their 'Forever Changes' album is truly influential. Second nomination goes to The Turtles.
One band that should be inducted is The Smiths. Not only were they awesome but they influenced a lot of bands.
Three most egregious omissions:
Grand Funk Railroad
Kiss
Rush
Why not just change the name to the "Popular Music Hall of Fame"
That way it wouldn't be so ridiculous,year in and year out..
Rock and Roll...yeah ,right
Come on People, Bonjovi is one of the best bands on earth. They do care about the people, how many bands have you seen donante $1,000,000.00 to Oprah for her charity, not to mention the charity they have shown to literally hundreds of people over Katrina, housing in New Jersey. They give back and they do deserve to be in the RRHOF just as much or more so, they write all of there own songs, & music and are an awesome live show. Still selling out stadiums that says a lot for this band, and no it is not about the hair to the morons out there that think that. Love the Band, Jon, Richie, Tico and David have been together for 25 years, that says a lot.
Dick Dale, The first POWER PLAYER. If the Ventures and the Beach Boys are in, why not put the guy that invented the genre in?
Kansas
When Chicago came out... nobody was doing rock with horns like this. Blood Sweat and Tears had more of a Jazz/Rock groove going. Cutting edge for shizzle.
Jethro Tull
I agree with Mark F. The RRHF is a Joke! Rush should have been inducted long ago, with all the gold/platinum records to there credit. Come on you Bozos! I guarnatee one thing. If it were the fans and just regular common sense music lovers who did the voting, Rush would win by a landslide!
Long live Rush!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The hall is not worth of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Also, Rush Sucks.
There is no way that Cheap Trick is a snub for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I saw them open for Aerosmith a few years ago and they got through more than 10 minutes of their set before they realized the amplifiers were not even on.
Joy Division
With the possible exception of Jimmy Cliff, I don't think a single one of the bands or artists mentioned in this article deserves to be in a Hall of Fame.
Popularity should have nothing to do with it. It should be what have you done to influence rock or what contribution have you made that isn't a cookie cutter of what everyone else has done. Just because you are around that long shouldn't get you inducted.
Frank Zappa was one on the least popular(as far as mainstream goes) artists there was. But in my mind, was one of the most deserving inductees.
This is not and should not be a popularity contest.
Jann Wenner is a pompous ass. Cheap Trick deserves to be in a Hall of Fame and for some reason he doesn't see that they are fit for induction.
As Rick Nielsen would say... the "Hall" would be lucky to have them.
The Partridge Family
Black Flag
I love the one guy that said, "Who cares?" and then there are like a billion posts. RUSH, Dire Straits and Jimmy Buffett!!!!!!!!
Blood, Sweat and Tears as well as The Carpenters
Where is Yes on the list? What about ELP? No love for the prog rock. Many others of course like SRV and Jethro Tull. It's all BS politics and lobbying. If it was based on talent these folks would be in.
DAVE MATTHEWS BAND
My personal HOF (this is what this is all about, right?) includes
The Cramps
Commander Cody and his Lost Planet Airmen
The Contortions / James White and the Blacks
Teenage Jesus and the Jerks
Richard Hell and the Voidoids
X
801
Criteria? Originality + attitude
Moody Blues, plain and simply. The R&R HoF folks must be viewed in the context that they are actually found. It's a private club of who, by omission, attempt to create controversy and buzz. It's the only publicity they seem to be able to generate. Nothing ever for the people/groups actually incucted. Think of it.... if they actually inducted and created exhibits for these "overlooked" legends, the buzz would end and the interest in the HoF would dry up. I live within two hours drive of the HoF and go through Cleveland frequently. But, knowing what a joke these people are, will keep me from ever setting foot in the place. YouTube, is in fact, a better repository of the history of not just R&R but of all music than the R&R HoF will ever be.
CHICAGO seems to me the most deserving from this list of "uninducted" artists. MOODY BLUES are a personal favorite, though perhaps not as deserving as CHICAGO.
Ed from Colorado is right on...Prog Rock has been ignored. Most notably Yes. Fellow Yes fans unite! Genesis is a start but they spent much of their career letting Phil send them down a path of musical disappointment. Crimson and Moody Blues would make a whole lot of sense. I was also recently reminded of the influence Procol Harum had...that would be a nice touch. Last but not least and probably a long shot is XTC...what do you think about that.
"Bon Jovi paved the way for glam rock, the most shallow, inconsequential era in Rock&Roll. No way they should EVER be inducted, they truly were the antichrists of true Rock."
Down with Bon Jovi.
Agreed with down with Bon Jovi, but no way are they glam rock. Crappy 80's hair metal, yeah, but definitely not glam in any way shape or form. Somebody needs to sit this guy down with some Bowie or Queen or Velvet Underground. They might change their tune about it being "shallow" and "inconsequential". Just wanted to clear that up. Other than that, hell yes to The Cure!
I hear a lot of people chatting about the Moody Blues... let's not forget that the Moody Blues opened for YES. Many, many musicians through the years have admired the brilliance that YES portrayed album after album. It's a crying shame that some great bands will never be chosen to join the HOF – this speaks very poorly for the HOF as an organization.
Rush.
motorhead. thats all. motorhead.
A hall of fame is supposed to be a place where those inducted have made a significant or noteworth contribution to the industry. What is ABBA'S
The Marshall Tucker Band. All of the bands on that list are deserving, but the MTB has sold over 30 million records and were one of the top ticket-selling bands in the world in the late 70's/early 80's. They played the first live concert MTV ever aired. How many acts could sell out 5 nights in a row at the Forum and then the next week, sell out 5 night at MSG? Not many. Their influence is felt throughout music today, especially with the blending of genres they brought, including jazz, country, rock, and blues. Toy Caldwell was a masterful songwriter whose "Can't You See" is considered an anthem, defining Southern music from the 70's. Santana used to sit at his feet in amazement while Toy played with his thumb, never using a pick. It's a shame they have been left out.
It's hard to say. I can tell for sure alice cooper should never be in the RRHF. He's the worst singer/composer and least talented of the bunch. Entertaining yes, talented...uh, nope.
The HOF has been a joke for a number of years now. How can one call ABBA rock and roll. When bands like AC/DC and Rush don't even get a sniff. It is now a music museum and not a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Each year is an even larger travesty than the previous with their choices of entrance.
Alice Cooper should be in the Hall of Fame. A great band of the seventies and a great performer today. With hits like "School's Out" and "Eighteen" he deserves induction.
It seems the only criteria for induction in the R&R Hall of Fame is to be in existence as a group or solo artist for 25 years or longer. Quality and being a major influence to Rock & Roll are now secondary to longevity. The fact that ABBA have been chosen to receive this award bears this out. With their millions of fans worldwide, nonetheless, this group has as much to do with R&R as instant coffee does with ground roasted beans.
ZEVON ZEVON ZEVON ZEVON....
IT'S A NO BRAINER.
Three Dog Night – the very first band to do stadium tours after the Beatles did theirs. Their songs are still heard regularly on numerous commercials, tv shows and movies.
Visit the Experience Music Project (EMP) in Seattle. Much more for the Music than the RRHOF!
TURTLES!!! TURTLES!!! TURTLES!!!!
Oh, and the Moody Blues.
The true last rocker who always gets dissed is The MoneyMan! Eddie Money! He deserves to be inducted!
CHEAP TRICK
Peter Frampton? It sounds like it time to change the oil in the selection committee. Get with this decade man!?
Steve Miller band, not even on the list ,come on.
Stevie Ray Vaughan
are you kidding me? WHERE ARE THE MOODY BLUES ????? The best classic rock band ever
I knew that Rush had gotten passed up many times. I'm a huge U2 fan, but to have inducted them before Rush and Kiss...paaahhhlease! Depeche Mode and RHCP are huge omissions as well.
Not that they are my favourites or anything but KISS should really be in there.....
Todd Rundgren = A BIG YES
X,The Replacements, and Squeeze!
T O D D R U N D G R E N !
Also, we need these Bands in the RRHOF:
Heart
Cheap Trick
Devo
Rock N Roll Hall of LAME. They've now lost all credibility.
The Ohio Players
Thin Lizzy
A number of deserving candidates on that list, but Todd Rundgren is a real obvious oversight to date. Hope that's corrected soon.
Biggest misses:
Roxy Music
Peter Gabriel
Warren Zevon
John Prine
Kiss and Alice Cooper : HO HUM.
Where is YES ? They have been performing for 40 years and have a great body of very impressive, original and influential work. Whom ever is choosing these artists haven't been listening to music, that's obvious. Where are all the "super groups" ??? Why aren't they even nominated???
Kiss? Foreigner? Alice Cooper? Heart?....
Though they're not perfect (Abba?), those not included show the award committee has SOME taste!
Rush – Three of the most technically proficient musicians of all time and not in the hall of shame.
Depeche Mode should be on there!!!
Everyone who truly cares about rock music should boycott the r'n'r hall of fame because its about politics/the committees opinion, not what we the people think. Yes,Kiss,Alice,Rush and many others deserve to be in. Its wrong that musicians from other types of music are in, especially if they didn't even have a song/album on the rock charts at all. Is Bowie in? I don't hear anyone mention him. I've seen Kiss five times... a lot of bands started doing Kiss styled shows after they saw Kiss. Why is the ceremony in a hotel in New York when the museum is in Cleveland? You need a big stage for shows with rock stars for all their stuff. And one more thing...get rid of the tuxedos, it's not rock and roll.
Chicago, without a doubt. Every year I hope and pray and they are STILL not in the HOF. They are still performing to sold-out crowds every year and have a sound all their own. Their first eight albums (especially the first two) are right up there with the Beatles! Robert Lamm's soulful voice and music along with Peter Cetera's harmonies and Terry Kath's guitar are amazing. James Pankow's songs are one of a kind. C'mon – Colour My World? Ahhh.....
in my opinion, they need to reserve the rock and roll hall of fame for artist who in fact performed rock and roll.
Maybe some of these bands were overlooked because they suck.
Bob Welch.
Stevie Ray Vaughn. Period. Hands down...biggest oversight by far
Everybody has differing tastes in rock music. Some of the people that have already been inducted aren't strictly rock and neither are some of the ones that the people here want to have included. Perhaps it should've been named something other than the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, but how would you break it down? Can't call it the Pop Hall of Fame, can't call it the Punk Hall of Fame, etc. That's being a little nit-picky. I do agree that most of the people that have been mentioned deserve to be in the Hall of Fame, even if I don't particularly care for some of them personally. I don't think it should be left up to a committee like that...I mean, who's on the committee? It should be left up to the people, who should have some way of voting.
I've sorta noticed that you have to be fully past your prime and currently useless to go into the hall. In light of that, let's keep Depeche Mode and The Cure OUT of the HOF. Those two are still pretty good, especially Depeche Mode who released a delightful new album just last year. Ball's in your court Robert Smith, can you keep out of the hall?
What about aldo nova they rocked the house, or at least at my house they did.
To repeat what Paul said:
As a group, Rush possesses 24 gold records and 14 platinum (3 multi-platinum) records. According to the RIAA, Rush's sales statistics also place them fourth behind The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith for the most consecutive gold or platinum albums by a rock band.
The reality is, it's all about money for the HOF. If they stretch out the popular inductees over decades, it increases their chances of surviving financally. They NEED to keep the interest up for years, so every year they put in a few popular ones and bunch of garbage that doesn't really belong there.
MITCH RYDER & DETROIT WHEELS, Also Richard Nixon (got to have someone to kick around)
The only names on this list of omissions that DESERVE to be in the HOF are The Cure and Cheap Trick. Everyone else SHOULD be on the outside looking in!
I think they should be MORE selective if anything. If it aint exclusive, it aint special.
Foreigner? Ick!! Ditto Steve Miller. Popular but.... ick. Like all judged "competitions" the HOF entry is political and has little to do with anything else.
Quite surprising. Moody Blues not on the list??? Let alone Frampton Chicago and ELO. Who is Jimmy Cliff? Who are the Stooges?
The one band that influence far more than others is
YES
>Why does any of this make the slightest difference in any recognisable dimension?
I'm so happy to see so many people state the absence of Deep Purple from the list and the hall. They truly deserve to be in there. I've wondered if the many lineup changes are one reason they haven't even been nominated, because the hall is concerned about the number of awards they can produce for a single band, as well as the on-stage personnel if inducted. This would also affect bands such as Black Sabbath and Yes, among others. However, there have been several inductions where the original band doesn't speak to each other and substitutions have been made, so I'd hope that wouldn't be the real reason. That idea certainly doesn't explain the absence of Emerson, Lake and Palmer, either.
I'm in favor of Iron Maiden getting in, too!
Chicago and Heart are 2 of my favorites
Jethro Tull isn't in either, can you believe that?
Not many bands have endured and overcome all the major obstacles that Def Leppard has overcome – they paved the way for the arena "Metal Hair Bands" of the 80's, not to mention the fact they made one of the most popular albums of the 80's, Hysteria, with the one armed "Thunder God". But I digress – they are too good for the Hall of Fame – ABBA could never compete.
And where's Van Halen??????? Come on......
Judas Priest nuff said
Where is Ritchie Blackmore, an extraordinary Guitar player and great contributer to Rock-n-Roll. And he's still making exceptional music. Deep Purple, Rainbow, and Blackmores Night. An incredible array of music. "Smoke on the Water" riff, maybe the first and most ever copied for up and coming guitar players. Hail the the man in Black !
The Red Hot Chili Peppers do not belong there. One of the most over rated over hyped bands in history. Jann Wenner and his Rolling Stone croonies are so outdated they make the Oscar judges look cutting edge. At this rate the Jonus brothers will be in before Iron Maiden. The only current bands that belong in now are Radiohead and Tool.
ELO – of course – at least for Jeff Lynne, but Bev Bevan was a hell of a drummer. I mean – gosh – ELO "good band for awhile" – because you know Lynne didn't do anything else like I dunno – Wilbury's, Beatles work, George Harrison's work, Petty's work ...
RR- HOF IS a joke – want to hear a good ripp on it – That Metal Show on VH1 ...
RUSH – No Question
ELO / ELP / Moody Blues / YES / King Crimson – all pushed Prog Rock in the day to a ROCK art form
Deep Purple / Rainbow / Sabbath / DIO/ Judas Priest – All pushed metal to an accessable form of ROCK
HEART / REO / Foreigner / KISS – the list goes on ... all brought ROCK to the masses in huge concerts ...
ABBA – they made music – NOT Rock – No – they can go to the the "Former Hot Chicks and Goofy Dudes in Satin Jump Suits Hall of Fame" – I think it's Called the Hard Rock Cafe (JK!)
What, no Jimi Hendrix or Stevie Ray Vaughan?
wow, didnt realize the Hall is a joke political organization. Kinda goes against everything Rock n Roll..
like everything else in the "official" music business: PURE BULL.
Grand Funk!!!
1. Jethro Tull
2. Doobie Brothers
3. Chicago (anyone who thinks they were not rock arent old enough to remember the 70's, pre Terry Kath)
Widespread Panic. 24 years of touring, 11 studio albums, and legions of die hard fans.
What about Jethro Tull? They certainly did more for music than The Stooges.
There are SO many that do not belong. Tonight the only band worthy are the Stooges. KISS, Chicago, Hall and Oates, Moody Blues, E.L.O, Bad Company, Peter Frampton, Heart, Bon Jovi, Journey, Foreigner all SUCK.
Todd Rundgren
Madonna is in but Deep Purple, Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, Rush and Thin Lizzy aren't? More rap acts then heavy metal bands? I'll never pay to go there.
Beastie Boys!!!! ....and it's gonna be a gala event.
KISS???!!!???...KISS, is effing horrible with zero muscianship. They are the '70's equivalent to Nickleback, absolue bowl of anus is what I think of KISS.
Without a doubt, RUSH should be in the Hall but we know that Rollingstone magazine has it out for them.
All of my major grievances have been addressed except this one:
JOY DIVISION / NEW ORDER
in five years Alice in Chains better be on that list
The Moody Blues!!! Cutting edge album "Days of Future Passed". Still touring with a huge fan base. They should have been inducted years ago. Enough said!
Shocking is Grand Funk Railroad not being in the HOF!!!
I'm sorry but if you haven't heard of the Stooges then you're probably not qualified to judge who should/should not be in the HOF. Everyone has their favorite bands who did not get in!
my opinion:
KISS – no brainer, in.
Depeche Mode – could go either way.
The Cure – again, either way...
Chicago – should be in.
Hall and Oates – not.
Rush – IN, for sure.
Alice Cooper – IN for sure.
Moody Blues – IN for sure.
E.L.O.- could go either way.
Cheap Trick – IN, only because so many shit bands of the same style have been introduced. would be good to have a GREAT band of that style.
Bad Company – out. every band from classic rock radio does not need to be in the HOF.
Peter Frampton – out, but sneak his talking box pedal in, haha
Heart – could go either way. were they musical groundbreakers... no... were they female groundbreakers... no... were they great? yes.
T-Rex – either way. I lean more towards yes.
Bon Jovi – in. do i like them? hell no! haha
Journey – in. a lot of talent there.
Foreigner – out.
Public Enemy – in. don't invite flav to the party!
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – eventually in. RHCP might want to bow out until their popularity starts waning!
Heart like paved the way for many female rockers and riot grrrls to follow. The Cure & Rush as well (I hate rush but I give mad props to Neil Pert)
Nelson.
What?!? No Menudo????
ABBA gets in, and Rush doesn't? Amazing! The RRHF has no credibility. It's a joke. They don't even know what rock-n-roll is. It should be the bubble gum hall of fame.
ELO and Jeff Lynne should definitely be in. Not only did ELO sell 50+ million records during their 15 year career, and have 21 top 40 hits in the U.S. and England, but Lynne went on for an additional 20+ year career with the Traveling Wilburys and producing albums for other folks already in the RRHOF. Not to mention his role in two excellent and relatively obscure (in the U.S., that is) bands...The Move and the Idle Race.
Iron Maiden!!
Angel, Giuffria, House of Lords.
Definitely STYX is one of the biggest snubs.
FALCO !!!
Stevie Ray Vaughan.
I have one suggestion and that's it. Let's just get rid of RRHOF. The whole idea is simply lame.
Depeche Mode, definately!!!
you forgot about deep purple, the fouders of heay metal
Hey Rock Hall, ever heard of Tom Dowd? Ahmet Ertegun sure did..
After Madonna was inducted I figured those already in would be trying to get out.
Chicago deserves to be in as they were pioneers of a brand new sound and influence to rock and roll. They were filling arenas and stadiums from coast to coast not to mention around the world rocking every night back in the early 70's. They were trailblazers! And these guys are still around playing to big crowds. Jann Wenner has a personal grudge with them and probably all the others who are not inducted yet.
Come On Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, add these guys to the Hall..
From Spartanburg South Carolina.....THE MARSHALL TUCKER BAND!!!
The list of snubs here is pretty amazing. Not having Deep Purple and Ritchie Blackmore in the R&R Hall of Fame is like not having Ted Williams in the baseball Hall of Fame
I think Van Halen has been inducted, but I would argue that Def Leppard (and maybe producer Mutt Lange by extension) deserve to be inducted. Pyromania and Hysteria were 2 of the most important records of the 80s, and they embodied and exemplified a hugely popular genre of rock n roll. Let's give em the credit they deserve!
Journey. Surprised they're not in already.
Perhaps the "Rock & Roll" part of "Rock & Roll Hall of Fame" is what is a problem for many people?
I always thought "Rock & Roll" was just being used a generic term for modern popular music. Just as the Oscars celebrates modern narrative film, not just dramas or comedies or a specific genre.
In those terms, the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inviting major artists such as Madonna, ABBA, etc., who - love 'em or hate 'em - had an inarguable impact on popular music would not be some egregious sin.
If Jann Wenner is part of the selection committee then you all should get ready for Frankie Goes To Hollywood, George Micheal and other ass pirate groups. Poor Jann- He's just cruising oops.... looking for a few good men. He knows shit about good music and alot about butt monkey behaviour.
oops...sorry! just read it requires 25 years of recordings.
Agree with others that Rush not being inducted yet is lame. Formed in 1968 and and with Peart joining in 1974 – they've been together since and still continue to sell out concerts. Many consider two of the trio the best at their craft – bass and drums.
A unique and progressive rock sound that so many bands over the last 2 decades indicate that Rush had an influenced their sound.
Pat Benatar
Judas Priest. They literally kept a genre of music alive during the late 70's and early 80's.
Rush deserves it. They were the fire in my teenaged soul. They were the theme music for my stoned dreams. The Trees, Fly By Night, Time Stand Still. The list goes on and on and on. They gave us all some truly unfogettable power jams. I don't listen to them much anymore, but when I do, I am taken back to my youth on their magic rock carpet. Abba, are you kidding me??? Madonna is a big deal, but not a rock artist. She deserves respect for sure though.
eernie torres and Wiley,
The Stooges are Iggy Pop's band in the 70's. The did songs like the Search and Destroy and I Wanna be Your Dog.
As for Public Enemy being on the snubbed list. They are good, but rapping to the Meters doesn't make you a rock band.
Can't be Hall Of Fame without Scorpions, UFO, Robin Trower
Paul Revere and the Raiders – the early stuff was deserving, until they went to a more pop sound.
So many are missing, it's really just a joke. I'd advise anyone to visit the hall, because it's very interesting, and a great way for a music fan to spend the day. As far as who's in or who's out – who cares?
What about Collective Soul???....solid, steady. consistently on the charts?
You may not know their faces, but you will recognize their music, and that's all that matters.
Rush and Heart should be inducted!
Bachman Turner Overdrive, BTO!!
How can it be possible that a hall of fame for music does not include some of the precursors of progressive ROCK? Bands like Yes, Emerson Lake & Palmer and Jethro Tull –the first and last mentioned in the bio for inductee band Genesis as "established prog-rock successes"– are nowhere to be found in what is supposed to be a hall that exists to "educate the world on the social significance of rock and roll?", their words on their website?
It is baffling, to say the least!
Stevie Ray Vaughan must be included in this list and eventully in the HOF. His musical style and mastery of the guitar broke new ground and ushered in a genre of rock.
Sorting out this Hall of Fame brouhaha is truly a great effort, with so many great minds converging to reach some kind of consensus on one of the great issues of our time. With both the Iron Maiden and Journey lobbies coming on strong and the proposal to include not just "Zappa, Frank" but also "Frank Zappa", I think we're just about there! The 2011 HOF committee will easily be able to look at these comments and suggestions and they'll know how to vote! So, how about after this, let's turn our great minds to reforming the American banking system! Whattaya say?
Iron Maiden,(up the iron).
NEW ORDER/JOY DIVISION, they basically covered almonst all the music genre (Punk,Goth,New Wave,Dance,Electronic,Indie). Even Quincy Jones would agree. Hell he(Quincy Jones) was the one that signed them in US.
YES is an omission of monumental propotions. I find it hard to believe they're not already in there.
The Pogues of course belong more than 90% of the bands mentioned but as 99% of radio listeners have no idea who the Pogues are they have no chance. That one I accept, YES is truly unbelieveable.
Chicago should definitely be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. The same goes for Heart - something is wrong with this picture.
R U S H, PLAYING FULL ARENAS, SELLING MILLIONS OF RECORDS. Making Prog Rock for smarter people, not dictating their music music by the lame-brains in the record industry. R U S H way to good fot the HOF, in my book they are winners...So take your inductees and shove it.
Kansas deserves consideration, as does Deep Purple and Crowded House. Rush = no-brainer.
What about Grand Funk?? They sold more records and toured more than anyone in the 70's. All the R&R HOF has become is Jan Wenner's personal petting zoo. Remember folks, HE decides who gets in, not the writers. They may vote, but he has veto power. How can you trust this guy to be the arbiter of good musical taste when he also publishes US WEEKLY??? Maybe next year Brad, Angelina and Jen will be inducted. What a joke..
There are a lot of bands missing, however if you want to talk huge success and "why aren't they inducted" let's remind RRHOF of PAUL REVERE & THE RAIDERS!
50 Million Records Sold | 21 Chart Topping Hits | Group has THE most TV Appearances than any other group, still | First Rock Group signed to Columbia Records | Took on the British Invasion (Beatles/Stones) single handedly selling records in astonishing numbers next to those groups | Most of the artist's in the RRHOF that came after PR&R have covered the groups Hits | PR&R's hit "Just Like Me" is inducted into the RRHOF for shaping RnR, go figure. It goes on and on.
Oh yeah...I agree RUSH too!
Don'r firget Madonna is in. Yes, Madonna. What kind of art she has demonstrated comparing to YES, RUSH...Two of the greatest bands on earth.
Their formula is celebrity status + record sales. If they let Madonna in, they might as wll let Taylor Swift in when she gets old.
No way R &R Hall of Fame can compare to baseball hall of fame which is very hard to get in.
Chic!! They ruled the charts in the 70's, were sampled countless times by more recent bands, wrote numerous top hits for others and produced major 80's acts like Bowie (Let's Dance), Rod Stewart, Thompson Twins, Madonna, etc.
They were nominated but never made it. Unbelievable. The biggest injustice ever. Millions of people have been dancing and are still dancing on their songs. The whole disco sucks thing must have something to do with it. I don't know but either way, they should be in it. Their influence on contemporary dance music goes without saying.
it isn't even so much an insult to me that some of the artists listed in this snub article aren't getting in, but the fact that artists like ABBA and The Stooges are getting in before them.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame must be run by the same jokesters who run the Grammies, because like most of the Grammy winner selections, this is just laughable.
Sad, sad, sad: No one ever considers the MC5. Either the most righteous or self-righteous rock band ever, depending on your view. Google it for those who don't know the.
In their brief heyday, the could literally blow any of the bands listed here out of the water. they were so dangerous that the FBI was after them at the windy city 1968 Democratic Convention. Top that, Chicago lovers.
These should be inducted as well: Huey Lewis & The News, Loverboy, Asia, Oingo Boingo, Kenny Loggins, The Human League, Simple Minds, Devo...
Yes – Absolutely – positively.
Now – How do we vote some of the Dreg in there out?
Its R&R – right?
Rush, Journey, Styx and Foreigner should all be in. The HOF is far too politically correct to be considered viable.
ABBA what a joke
Foreigner is not in but Led Zeppelin is? I wouldn't wipe my butt with any Zeppelin music. Foreigner is probably the greatest band ever.
Kiss is garbage music. Their talent was marketing a band of people who couldn't really play their instruments or sing.
Iron Maiden.
BON JOVI! Anyone who thinks Bon Jovi paved the way for Glam Rock don't know what they're talking about. Bon Jovi WAS part of the Glam Rock phase, but they've certainly moved passed the Glam Rock era and have made quite an impression in the music industry. Get your facts straight.
Please learn to differentiate between 80s glam rock and 70s rock. Glam rock did not begin with Bon Jovi or the 80s for that matter, it's been around since the early 70s, but it took a completely different turn in the succeeding decade. If you want to call Bon Jovi glam rock, make sure you refer to them as 80s glam rock, because just calling them glam rock like that puts them in the same league as T-Rex, David Bowie, Queen and the like. Which of course Bon Jovi has absolutely nothing in common with. A better and more appropriate term for bands like Bon Jovi is hair metal.
Aren't the bands supposed to play rock 'n' roll? What about Joan Jett? The Runaways? At least the Stooges & Ramones made the cut. How about Dead Kennedys? Blondie?
Bon Jovi SUCKS.... so thats an easy one. If it was not for his uncle in the record busniss he would still be just a punk in NJ. This is why they don't pick them.
I agree with several on the list shown....particularly Alice Cooper, but believe that Van Halen, Kansas, Styx, Black Sabbath should be added to the list pronto. Also....in my dark horse category....I would love to see both Roxy Music and Poco nominated....they were both trailblazers-though I'm sure this will never happen.
Why does it matter?? It is called the Rock and Roll hall of fame and it lets any musican into it (rap,r&b,and so on). That is not very rock and roll to me.
What do The Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, Nirvana, Motley Crue, Guns 'N Roses, Everclear, Joan Jett (& the Runaways), Antrax, and Def Leppard have in common?
They all list Cheap Trick as one of their favorite bands and biggest influences. That is a pretty diverse group and I could list a couple of dozen other bands that I know of that have indicated the same. Even contemporaries like Aerosmith have listed Cheap Trick as an influence. Queen loved them.
Tom Peterson of CT invented the 12 string bass. Bun E. Carlos is long respected as one of the best drummers in rock. Rick Nielsen is one of the most creative guitar players of our time. Robin Zander's vocals and vocal range are nothing short of phenomenal.
Cheap Trick is still producing great music and still touring. They are not resting on their laurels. They belong in the Hall.
RHCP has to make it. They've been dropping hit after hit and amazing albums for going on 3 decades now. They are easily one of the better bands of all time.
I tink the blues brothers should be inducted, me and my brother Jake both. : )
DEPECHE MODE hands down!
What about RATT! Quiet Riot! Slip Knott! Tesla!
The HOF is all political. Some bands pissed off the critics who cast the votes and those critics are holding petty grudges. They don't care what anyone else things they are "never going to vote for [fill in band name here]!!" I've seen Rush, KISS, The Cult, Depeche Mode, Duran2, and more in concert over the years and they all put on great shows – tho Rush is the best IMO. It's a shame to see a petty critic holding back recognition for the many bands and artists who deserve it, and inducting no-names with no social relevance.
I second GG Allin. if that guy wasn't R&R I Dunno what is! O and the CRAMPS too.
The Moody Blues blended rock and orchestra together for the first time in the late 60's and have been doing it ever since. Their music is the cutting edge and not to be in the HoF is a huge mistake. But then again they don't need the HoF with us fans. What about all the top ten songs and albums that they had? Go Figure!!!
Hello? It's Todd Rundgren? I don't have much respect for an organization that doesn't recognize Todd's contributions to Rock-n-Roll. Guess it's more of a cliche-popularity contest than a true Hall of Fame.
Wow, I have not seen anybody mentioning the band TOTO, very very underrated group, excellent session musicians!
Yes, I go with TOTO!
How the hell did the Chili Peppers get looked over. You Suck Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. F@#K You. Ohio Sucks. I say KCMO fans get together and start are own thing we could call it Rock Legends. That is trademarked if you use it you have to suck Satans cock. I suppose next you will all say Black Sabbath isn't in there and if that is the case you should rot in heaven RRHOF cause hell won't want you.
There is a well documented bias by the RnRHOF against progressive, or Art rock despite it's large fan base and large contribution to the music world. It's nice to see Genesis finally make it, but others (Rush, Yes, ELP, King Crimson, etc) should already be there. The RnRHOF is a privately managed sham. They lost credibility over a decade ago.
Sorry, but the only deserving band amongst these other competent but inspired groups is Cheap Trick. The rest are down there with Toto.
You mean the rock & roll hall of shame. DEEP PURPLE!!!!! ALICE COOPER, HEART, KISS. You will never see me there because they inducted gram master flash in the rock and roll hall of shame. Wake up!
Red Hot Chili Peppers should ABSOLUTELY be in the HOF. I'm 26 years old and have lived in Southern California my entire life. I can't imagine what the world would be like without Red Hot Chili Peppers and Sublime albums.
Where is THE GUESS WHO? The scored at least 7 top-10 singles; most probably made it to #1 on the US charts. One of the best rock/pop bands EVER!!!! These guys actually played on their albums and sang all the harmonies as well; unlike so many other inductees.
No Time....American Woman.....rock out!!!!
IMHO, Rush is the biggest omission. The same original 3 members, still together after 35 years, still putting out amazing music, still touring! I'm a huge fan of several other bands mentioned here by others, but for longevity, originality, and rolling with the changes, Rush is tops.
Ok rush and Kiss (not that I am a fa of either) but they should both be there. Joan Jett yes! Heart of course lets face it not a enough women rockers. Hall and Oates – no – Chicago I guess but the later schlock almost takes them off the list......
@jcb
LOL! Sweet!
RUSH hands down. It is a joke to even see some of the names on that list...their music and shows put these new "rock" acts to shame...and somebody please explain the following: ABBA = Rock and Roll...really?
You mean the rock & roll hall of shame. DEEP PURPLE!!!!! ALICE COOPER, HEART, KISS, CHEAP TRICK, HEART, DEEP PURPLE!!!
Rush, Kiss, Yes, Hall & Oates...all HUGE mistakes on the HoF's part. It's sad that big business and political stances have had to take place in order for an artists to get recognized. Record companies should be left out of the mix entirely! This should based by musicians and producers only!
There's a lot of criticism in this board for Bon Jovi, Foreigner, etc. for being annoying fluff. May or may not be true, I won't argue the point. However, if R&RHOF is honoring f**king DISCO with the induction of ABBA, I see no reason why Foreigner or Bon Jovi should be barred.
The Moody Blues blended rock and orchestra together for the first time in the last 60 and have been doing it ever since. Their music is the cutting edge and not to be in the HoF is a huge mistake. But then again they don't need the HoF with us fans.
Nirvana? Eligible in 2014?
One can't help but notice that you did not mention:
The Guess Who
John Mayall
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
All of the above richly deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.
Guns N Roses arent eligiable yet.
Iron Maiden and Motorhead should be in there
Emerson Lake and Palmer, Rush and Korn (when their time is due,Korn rules!)
RUSH by far is the biggest and most glaring ommission. This trio has two of the most talented musicians at their respective instruments and the band has been making relevant music for 30+ years – well, the last decade is debatable......I was absolutely shocked to hear that Rush is not in. The RHCP should be in, for no other reason than the uniqueness of the music and the fact that one and/or all of them haven't OD'd and they are still around after 20 years.
Gay4Cash must be a Wham fan
What about Deep Purple. The family tree alone from that group deserves recognition: Richie Blackmore, Tommy Bolin, Roger Glover, David Coverdale, Jon Lord and on and on.
PETER WOLF
Pearl Jam and Nirvana should both be on this list. Especially Pearl Jam. Consider how popular the early 90's grunge this way – and what is the one band left standing?
Iron Maiden & Judas Priest
Motley Crue, Def Leppard and Iron Maiden no, but ELO yes ?
Come on.
Although I find the Rock Hall to be a lot like Rolling Stone, they think they are cutting edge and out there, but its really just a bunch of frustrated, aging hippies calling the shots.
PHISH is one of the greatest live rock bands of all time and has superior musical chops to almost anyone else on this list of passed-over bands. They have been around for the required 25 years, they have a massive following and have influenced an entire genre of musicians with their improvisational jams and structured composition that touch on everything from rock to jazz to fusion to bluegrass to ballads.
There are a few others who are deserving in my opinion, such as Rush, Red Hot Chilli Peppers and Kiss, but PHISH isn't even on the list in the article and they should be at the top of it.
What about the greatest band ever... Iron Maiden. Try having practically no radio play and still sell 80 million records!! Wanna know what a real 'live gig' should be, go see Steve Harris and the boys. Classic lyrics, classic guitar riffs, classic songs. Long Live Eddie and the Boys
KISS??? Everyone knows KISS was, at BEST, a mediocre rock band...inductees should be bands/musicians who actually contributed the canon of music and made great songs. These guys are just jokers who've successfully pimped their image. It's like saying Backstreet Boys should be in the HOF...KISS is just a boy band with clown makeup. Give me a break.
Two Words – Bad Company
peter gabriel
yes
jethro tull
Abba. Wow. Really. I was eleven when I first heard them and even at that age I knew puke when I heard it. Terrible.
Count me as the 249th (or something like that) to say it on here, but RUSH clearly deserves to be in the HOF if the RRHOF cares to mean anything significant. I would also include Chicago & Cheap Trick (1st for sales & longevity, 2nd for influence)
Another point: I have no problem with the inclusion of non-traditional Rock and Roll members (primarily rap, but others as well), but if this is going to continue, the name should change to the Musicians HOF or Popular Music HOF or something that better reflects the membership.
Many of those artists listed deserve (and will probably get ) a spot in the R&RHOF. Just because you may not personally care for their music doesn't mean they aren't worthy of the recognition. As far as I'm concerned BON JOVI does deserve a spot...over 100 million albums sold and continuous sold out tours for over 25 years speaks for itself.
Mr Bungle
Faith No More
The Phantom Limbs
The Stooges DO belong in the rock hall...........Kiss is a money machine – dont let them in.
What about Duran Duran? They have defined music video. They have been around over 25 plus years. They are still going strong, producing cds, going on tours. They have a huge fan following. I like Depeche Mode, and Cure too. But come on, Duran Duran should be inducted before they are.
You all keep saying "cutting edge" as if you knew what it meant. Bunch of dummies. The whole lot of you. You'll do as you are told.
KISS is the band that paved Glam Rock not Bon Jovi. That means no Motley Crue. KISS, The Stooges and Alice Cooper brought shock rock
I Think Van Halen is in the hall of fame.
Eventually Heavy metal will have its day.
Judas Priest and Iron Maiden you can't judge priest or maiden of being a joke!!!!
It's just not a Hall Of Fame without Rush and Iron Maiden.
Chicago, Moody Blues, Kiss and Heart definetly , Just for longevity and influence. The Cure, alice cooper, T-rex ,journey, foreigner, RHCP also should be there.
Probably Bon Jovi, ELP, moutain and a houndred other bands.
For those bringing up about the Stooges tare already in.
To the guy who suggested GG Allin: you're a funny person.
What, no M.C. Hammer on the list? Where's the justice?
Stevie Ray Vaughan & Double Trouble...but then again, who wants to be a member of a Hall of Fame that includes ABBA?
Heart. I've seen them numerous times throughout their career, the most recent 1 year ago in Nashville. Not only do they have a long extensive songlist of great, recognizable songs but they are better now than they have ever been. My other choice would have to be Rush. 3 guys, 6 hands and 6 feet sounding like they were at least 10 people on stage. You can't get any better than that.
Rush by far. They have been producing albums and touring consistently since 1973! No scandals, 40 million albums sold over a 37 year career. Incredible!
DOOBIE BROTHERS
Just as an add-on...if Iggy wears a shirt to the Induction Ceremony, I'll smash my first edition 'Raw Power' LP.
Lionel Richie. Neil Diamond.
Stevie Ray Vaughn and Tom Waits need to be in there without question. Iggy and the Stooges deserve to be there also. The led the forefront of the punk rock era. I still listen to Raw Power to this day.
I don't think Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone magazine care much for prog-rock. It will probably be a long while before Yes, ELP or King Crimson were inducted; I think Yes would be inducted before the others.
And for anyone mentioning Pearl Jam, I can guarantee they will be first-ballot inductees six years from now (artists are eligible for induction 25 years after their first recordings).
And why hasn't Frank Zappa been inducted/ That is a good question.
By inducting Abba, this opens the door for:
The Archies
The Partridge Family Starring Shirley Jones Featuring David Cassidy
The Groovy Ghoulies
The Banana Splits
Bobby Sherman
Donny and Marie
Barney The Dinosaur
Josey and the Pussycats
Alvin and the Chipmunks
The Lancelot Link Secret Chimp Band (the original monkeys)
Whoever that backing band was on the early Scooby Doo shows
.....and, of course, the Monkees.
Saddest diss is not having Red Hot's, Journey, and Heart as recipients. Get it together Hall of Fame
ok... i thought this was the "ROCK & ROLLl Hall of Fame"... how does Public Enemy qualify for that?????????????????????????????
MOODY BLUES!
The Moody's omission from the R + R HOF would be akin to omitting Joe DiMaggio from the baseball hall of fame. It's a crime!!!
YES – They brought orchestration (and really weird lyrics) to rock
@Jill
"It's the greatest (natural) high ever to have Don't Stop Believing come on and have a whole room start singing together."
This is what the last circle of hell must be like.
ABBA? Is that even rock music? (Hall and Oates, I'm also looking at you here.)
Some of these bands aren't getting into the Hall because they aren't good. Cheap Trick? Quick, differentiate that band from all the others. Bon Jovi? Shudder.
Heart should be in. The Chilis will definitely get in, just give it time.
Bad Company – it's all part of my Rock & Roll fantasy
U2 had one half of a decade (Big Deal!!!!) ABBA only girls listened to them ( Not any Guys that I know (Maybe in the closet)...... Got on the web page and saw some poor examples of what is truely Rock & Roll. the voting must be being considered by the members little kids who do not know about "ROCK N ROLL" looking at the rest of the comments most people do know what rock is. And Maddonna makes me PUKE!!!! So Hall of shame listen up. Bad co., Head East, UFO, Ian Hunter, Kansas, Rush, Slade, Deep Purple, Grand Funk, White Snake If you can't make a good choice then just step down and let some one who can make an appropiet vote, not a vote that should actually be on finding neemo. Just remember the name given (ROCK & ROLL) Oh ya micheal Jackson the king of POP not R&R
Abba and the Stooges chosen over the Moody Blues? I don't think so! The bozos who make these selections have apparently lost all sense of perspective.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has zero credibility. Just ignore it.
The Rock-N-Roll HOF is a misnomer AT BEST. How in the world do they equate ABBA or Madonna with Rock-n-Roll before bands like KISS or Rush? Shouldn't the MINIMUM requirement be to have actually been a ROCK band?
WTF?
Why not just call it the Music HOF and drop the pretenses altogether?
It's the band presenting Genesis that is the obvious omission. Phish. Like the Dead before them, Phish has been selling out shows nationwide (e.g., MSG 3 nights in a row last December) for almost two decades.
Flaming Lips.
Flaming Lips.
Flaming Lips.
Maybe not this year, along with RHCP, but they should at least be mentioned in this conversation.
And Warren Zevon and E.L.O. totally belong in there as well.
And Rush, duh.
Of the list that was printed in the story, I would say Heart and Chicago deserve it the most.
Rush, Alice Cooper, E.L.O also
STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN
Tom Waits, Kate Bush, Roy Buchanan, The Pretty Things, XTC
NIRVANA!!!!
Stevie Ray aughan
There Would be no glam rock without KISS.
KISS was a Band first to really tour globally, and were ony a handful to first to do Arena Rock.
KISS and Alice Cooper paved the way for bands like Marlyn Manson, Rob Zombie, and other shock rock bands.
Jethro Tull, Yes, Pink Floyd???
Are there any "progressive rock" bands represented?
The RRHOF trip over themeselves to appear edgy, but they seem to ignore vast segments of the music industry.
ABBA before Tull – I hang my head utter dis-belief.
Roxy Music.
Kraftwerk.
New Order.
See...this is what I don't get about the entire idea of having a Hall of Fame for music. It's not like sports where if your statistic match-up with those ahead of you, you are voted in. Music is totally subjective. There are many great bands who will NEVER even be considered, because they don't fit into any criteria...that does not mean that they are not fantastic and one-of-a-kind. I'm glad to see that they try to get some of the pioneers of counterculture music in (i.e. Patti Smith, The Stooges), but there are many others (i.e. Dead Kennedys, Tom Waits) who won't even be given a thought (and might just tell them to stuff it, even if they did).
I'm starting a grassroots campaign for JOURNEY to get inducted.
It's the greatest (natural) high ever to have Don't Stop Believing come on and have a whole room start singing together.
KISS for sure, Rush, Alice Cooper, Chicago, Moody Blues, are others that should be high on the list. What about Jethro Tull and Mountain also?
Grand Funk Railroad
None on this list deserve in and more than a handful that are in do not deserve to be in. The rock hall is a joke. You can have music dying on the vine and then find a double handful of people to put on an elite list yearly, it doesn't work.
No Deep Purple? The HOF is a FAKE.
Rush? yes
Moody Blues? yes
Kiss? yes
Deep Purple? yes
Neil Diamond? yes
Heart? yes
Abba? I don't think so...
A few notables that should be in the discussion or coming up on the horizon:
Tom Waits
Chili Peppers
Yngwie Malmsteen
Bad Company or Free or both
Guns N Roses
ABBA b4 HEART - are you kidding me?
How in the world is RUSH not in the HoF?!?! Inconceivable!!
KISS changed the way stadium rock was performed, so they are a must. Bad Company, especially Paul Rodgers with Free, needs to be in just on the fact that "Can't Get Enough" and "Alright Now" are probably two of the most popular rock songs of ALL-TIME!!!
People who don't even know who The Stooges are don't have any place talking about what Rock and Roll is or is not.
The Cure, for sure. From the pure aspect of their influence on rock over the last couple of decades, they should be in there. If Robert Smith had died early like some of his compatriots, I'm convinced he'd be one of those untouchables in music history. But, he didn't, and he remains amazingly undervalued.
GRAND FUNK RAILROAD
Here's a good one....Ringo Starr. He was inducted with the Beatles, but never by himself, as the other three were.
A good list! Electric Light Orchestra absolutely belongs in the Hall of Fame!
A few more to think about . . . Jethro Tull, Pat Benatar, Boston, The Doobie Brothers, Neil Diamond, Todd Rundgren, and Yes. Much like the Grammys, the Hall is irrelevant. Long live Rock 'n Roll.
MOTT THE HOOPLE and/or IAN HUNTER!!!!!
I'd say all of them, to be fair. My personal favorite: Rush.
2112!!
looking at the HOF members and the comments section, it is apparant that the term "rock & roll" has lost its meaning.
agree with some of the comments; love that the replacements were mentioned a few times!
The lack of YES in the R&R HoF is the biggest miss. Yes, there are lots of other bands that belong on the list but YES defined the whole genre of Progressive Rock.
I'm opening a new Rock and Roll H of F. It is going to be called The Real Rock and Roll Hall of fame. It will be located in Detroit (where it should be) These are this years inductees:
JETHRO TULL!
HEART!
T REX!
JOAN JETT!
EMERSON LAKE and PALMER!
The CURE!
The PIXIES! – thats right
PUBLIC ENEMY!
oh and the biggest omission of them all:
The MC5!!!! (influenced all of the punk bands that are currently in the hall – including The Stooges)
Ha, you mean Crock & Blow Hall of Lame more like. Who knows what they use for deciding factors and who cares?
Tom Petty, Roxy Music, The Pixies, The Pogues, The Specials, Rush, The Guess Who. You could go on and on.
Kiss doesn't deserve it but maybe some theater award hall of fame but not music.
The 'Almost" RNR HOF is not and never will be complete until RUSH is inducted. It's an absolute disgrace that they havent been selected, yet. If, 35 years spanning 5 decades and 4th all-time in record sales isnt HOF worthy then you can pretty much eliminate 85% of the current members.
UTOPIA!!
Rush should and will be in the HALL. They are the best rock band that ever took the stage. masters at their instruments.
Keith, I agree with you The MONKEES should be in there!
T-Rex rules!
Yes and Emerson Lake & Palmer are the biggest not in yet.
ABBA? Since when is ABBA rock and roll? Pop, yes, but I thought it was the "Rock and Roll" HoF, not the Pop HoF. I'm not really a Rush or Alice Cooper fan, but they had more Rock and Roll influence than ABBA!
Bruce Willis will be eligible in 2012 with that masterpiece album he put out called "The Return of Bruno." I'm sure he'll get in before alot of the bands mentioned in the article! LOL!
HUGE miss that Peter Frampton is not in the Hall of Fame!
Should be in, and not on your list:
Tim Buckley – WAY better than his son
Captain Beefheart – hugely influential and unique
MC5 (should be in before the Stooges)
Love
Quicksilver Messenger Service
Shouldn't be anywhere near the Hall of Fame, but already in:
Bob Seger – derivative middle-American rubbish
John "Cougar" Mellencamp – ditto
SLAYER!
@ everyone who made a negative comment about the stooges
you are ignorant and suck.
2 words; The Smiths
I am NOT a KISS fan, but they should have been in there a long time ago. Def Leppard, a group a totally love, should be there also. Mott The Hoople has influenced so many musicians, they should also be in.
I really wonder about the decision makers in this place. Who are they and what are their backgrounds? Some of the choices are so iffy, and the snubs are so glaring.
Leon Redbone!
ABBA? Okay that is a joke. Genesis and The Police, yet no Moody Blues, Chicago, Yes, ELP, or ELO. I can go on but how does John Lee Hooker get into a Rock HOF and these others don't? More importantly, who cares? But let's get real, ABBA? How about Ten Years After? Alvin Lee could clearly hold his own with any of these Hall of Famers for blasting out rock and roll. There are names of performers that in their day I am sure they contributed to the transformation of Rock n Roll. But if they are inducting, Motown, Country and Blues artists, then let's rename it the Music Hall of Fame, as ABBA is not Rock and growing up during the 60's and 70's, the modern day music renaissance, I can tell you my generation was not hanging out listening to ABBA, but they were getting high to the likes of the Moody Blues, Ten Years After, Genesis, Chicago, Cream, ELP, Yardbirds, CSN&Y, Buffalo Springfield, not ABBA.
Journey is one of the biggest i cant understand how they can be passed by and some of these no names in rock fame.Omg abba before journey and so many other well deserved give me a break they need someone fired and a person with tasted in there
Steppenwolf, Grand Funk Railroad
also
YES
and
LINDA RONSTADT
@ Steve
If you dont think the stooges should be inducted... you don't know **** about music. You don't have to like them, but they were one of the biggest influences ever. ABBA? **** ABBA...
Agreed, Rush and Kiss, like them or not, they are deserving.
Deep Purple
If Jackson Browne can get inducted to the Hall of Fame so should all the other groups. What is this really all about ?
Deep Purple is not in the HOF yet?!? Amazing! But then, how many years did it take before Black Sabbath was finally inducted. And KISS should have been in the first year they were eligible. How is it that the Rock n Roll HOF seems to perpetually ignore actual rock bands, while pop garbage like ABBA and the Bee-Gees get inducted without waiting.
2 words
ALICE COOPER
definitely HEART and THE MOODY BLUES.
I nominate Richard Cheese.
LOL at the suggestions of Faster Pussycat and GG Allin!
How about a little love for some redneck rock ?
The Charlie Daniels Band
The Marshall Tucker Band
The Outlaws
Molly Hatchett
Wet Willie
38 Special
Elvin Bishop
Black Oak Arkansas
Congrats to The Stooges for being selected!
Also, I completely agree with Depeche Mode and The Cure getting some recognition already...they deserve it. Their music is both original and influential to other musicians, they still pack in the crowds at their concerts, and sell tons of albums.
Other comments above mentioned XTC, Duran Duran, The Pixies, and The Smiths...those would also be great choices. They are all bands that have inspired new music from other groups, and had an original sound.
What about X or The Cramps?
If Pink Floyd is playing at the gates of heaven, then Bon Jovi's "You Give Love a Bad Name' and 'Bad Medicine' are blasting from a cheap Sparkomatic car stereo at the gates of hell.
Tower of Power
Chicago
America
Styx
Yes
The Guess Who
REO Speedwagon
Foghat
Atlanta Rhythm Section
Meatloaf
Billy Idol
Cat Stevens
Foreigner
Boston
Dire Straits
The Boomtown Rats
Roxy Music
Kiss, Depeche Mode, you gotta be kiddin me (Bad spellin on purpose). Who are these guys? The only two on your list that deserve entry are possibly Chicago and definitely the Moody Blues. As for the rest, well since I have never heard of them, I doubt many others have either.
am a arab dude who did not even speak english until i was 23 but i made up for that lost time and now i am the authority on these matters. right the "authority" Red Hot should be in. Bonjovi should not be allowed to sing in public "I'm a cowboy?" yeh right you're a broke back cowboy maybe.
The Pixies
Why is ABBA even getting inducted? They're not Rock N Roll! KISS is the personification of Rock N Roll. Rush, Foreigner, Steve Miller Band and alot of the others mentioned deserve induction before ABBA.
Chicago damn it!
MONKEES MONKEES MONKEES
Most popular American group of the 60's, biggest selling group of 1967, etc etc etc
PLEASE don't give me the "didn't play their own instruments" nonsense.
They did their first 2 releases with session people and did all the singing and some of the songwriting anyway.
So Elvis isn't in?
Oh, that's right, he IS!
Never wrote his own songs or played on them either.
MADONNA?
Oh, that's right, she's in there, too!
Sang and danced and only recently took up the guitar.
MONKEES MONKEES MONKEES
chicago
journey
we forget that hall of fames are not to include those that made "signifcant" advances to their respective halls. they are merely a group of "favorite" famous people.
for those who can't quite grasp it, it is like an actor who buys their own star on the walk of fame.
Top selling rock artists of all time, in North America, with current RRHF inductees noted***:
The Beatles***
The Rolling Stones***
Aerosmith***
KISS.......
RUSH......
Need I say anymore? These two bands have been looked over time, and time again. The sales figures speak for themselves, not to mention, the fans, musical influence AND most importantly, LEGACY.
The Biggest of ALL NEIL DIAMOND!!!!
The guy who started the whole shock rock thing..so many bands have copied the great Alice Cooper. I can't believe he's still not in there..F-the HoF!
Rush is not a good band they should not be there. Red Hot Chili Peppers steal songs and pawn them off as their own (from the below mentioned Bodeans). KISS, yes they might have a spot in music because of their make-up history but except for Ace are not that strong musically. Bon Jovi should be there along with some others, namely The Bodeans-from Milwaukee, WI. Just a few thoughts...
LITTLE FEAT is the most influential and purely talented band not in the HOF. They are the musicians that other musicians want to play with. HOF is supposed to be about talent and influences, not sales or popularity. Most everyone agrees the best live album ever recorded is Waiting For Columbus. Even in the short time he was here, Lowell George was a huge influence on all that he came in contact with. Just ask Mick Jagger and Jackson Browne.
FRANK ZAPPA is another unbelievably talented and influential musician who is often overlooked.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers are an awful band. Of that list, I would say that Cheap Trick, Chicago, Hall and Oates, and Alice Cooper are the only legitimate snubs.
Hall and Oates! Come on. They should have been inducted eons ago. They are listed in the dictionary AND wrote the manual for "blue-eyed soul."
If Public Enemy is eligible per the minimum year limit, I truly must be getting OLD!! Has it really been 25 years since their first recording was released?
Public enemy and alice cooper are the shit!
As a voting member of the Hall of Fame, I swear that I will do everything in my power to make sure Kiss never ever gets inducted into the Hall of Fame. Sorry, kiddies.
I would love to see Jim Croce inducted. He left us too soon.
Rumor has it that next year they're inducting the "Two Live Crew." I'm not sure how reliable this information is but they deserve it. They're musically competent and their lyrics profound.
Who are these so called experts of the Hall Of Fame. How could you put in people or bands and leave out the ones who influenced them in the first place....
One name not in the Hall yet either who is widely considered one of the most influential in the business is Brian Eno. The list of artists who are indebted to him is impressive to say the least: U2, Talking Heads/David Byrne, The B52's, Roxy Music, David Bowie. The list goes on and on. He really deserves consideration.
Rush, bar none, deserves to be inducted. They exemplify everything that Rock N Roll is supposed to be. And out of a power trio none the less. When Alex Lifeson is the worse musician in the band...you know you have impeccable music being made. Incredible they are not in yet.
The Doobie Brothers
How about do away with the whole concept? Music is subjective. There is no right and wrong. Singling out an artist for a hall of fame or even and award is a slap in the face to all involved. Yes, the list of those not voted in is very surprising. You could make an argument that they all belong. But then you water down the prestige. I am a huge music fan and care nothing about the Hall of Fame. My two cents.
Tommy Boyce & Bobby Hart as writers released three critically acclaimed albums and either wrote or co-wrote with others the following compositions:
Pretty Little Angel Eyes (Curtis Lee)
Hurt So Bad (Little Anthony & the Imperials, Linda Ronstadt)
Last Train to Clarksville (Monkees)
I Wonder What She's Doing Tonight? (B&H)
Action (Freddy "Boom Boom" Cannon)
Sweet Little Kathy (Ray Peterson)
I'm Not Your Steppin' Stone (Raiders/Monkees)
She (Monkees/Del Shannon)
Lazy Elsie Molly (Chubby Checker)
Theme to Days of Our Lives
Come a Little Bit Closer (Jay and the Americans)
Peaches N Cream (Ikettes)
Over You (Oscar nominated song from "Tender Mercies")
There's Something Wrong with Me (Austin Roberts)
Alice Long (B&H)
I Wanna Be Free (Andy Williams/Monkees/Floyd Cramer)
I Remember Carol (Tommy Boyce)
Be My Guest (Fats Domino)
Valleri (Monkees)
Where Angels Go, Trouble Follows (B&H)
Keep On Singing (Helen Reddy)
Out & About (B&H)
Having written over 300 songs and sold more than
42 million records as a partnership their lack of a
nomination/induction is an ongoing slap in the faces
to two of the hardest working songwriters to ever
come out of the Brill Building.
Rush – Three dudes and the best three "dude" band ever
Foreigner – Forget the crappy ballads, from 1977-1987 they were great
Joan Jett – Trailblazer who rocks her butt off and DON'T FORGET the Blackhearts
SRV – Best guitarist of the last 30 years
Alice Cooper- Showmen who actually had some GREAT songs as well
Cheap trick – One of the most underrated bands EVER, give their early stuff a listen
Pat Benatar – Tough, sexy and she rocker her cute butt off and her hubby Neil SHREDS
Heart – Ann the singer and Nancy the musician – TOP NOTCH and you can't beat Barracuda, Crazy on you and Magic man for a threesome
REO Speedwagon – Some syrupy garbage, but Riding the storm out, Back on the road again and Roll with the changes sound as good today as they did way back when
KISS – Come on, just for the marketing and the SHOW and don't forget Firehouse, Cold Gin and Strutter, THEY WERE GOOD
Chicago, Moody blues and Yes, A LOT MORE VIABLE than Maddona, Talking heads and some of the garbage in there.
How many hits do Bad Company, Heart, Foreigner,and Rush have combined? How does ABBA get into the ROCK & ROLL HOF before these groups? It's decisions like this that erode the credibility of this institution.
The problem is the R&R HOF can't burn through all these great classic bands/groups too quickly cause up the road 10-15-20 years who will they nominate? The boy groups? Britney? American Idol winners? Give me a break! What super groups would be worthy from 1990-2010? Anyone?
How about REO Speedwagon and Styx?
What about Mickey, Davy, Peter & Michael a.k.a., The Monkees? They were a group for all purposes, actually playing their own instruments as evidenced in the albums "Headquarters" and "The Birds, The Bees, and The Monkees"... They made a heck of a contribution to rock n' roll...
Have to say, I'm REALLY surprised that Heart hasn't been in. They even have their own exhibit at the Experience Music Project in Seattle, WA! And, of course, they're amazing.
Bon Jovi is NOT Glam rock!!! Bowie, T-Rex, and the New York Dolls are glam rock!...and Bon Jovi can't hold a candle to any of them!
Buster Poindexter!
Dead Kennedys!
ABBA really deserved to the Rock n Roll HOF. Their music captured the whole world and brought millions of fans to the dance floor. Congrats ABBA! Pride of Europe...
GOD BLESS U!
What about the Damned. They did so many firsts that its a joke not to have them.
1st London punk band to release a single
1st British punk album
1st British punk band to tour the US
1st band to release a CD single
Y'all make not like it, but ABBA is one of the highest grossing musical acts, around the world, of all time. We in America may only see them as "has been" disco singers, but the rest of the world still loves them! Incidentally, both the Broadway play and movie musical, "Mamma Mia", performed exceptionally well at their respected box offices. Does this mean ABBA should go in to the RRHOF? Maybe not, but it's happening anyway.
To my fellow Monkees fans-I'd love nothing more than to see them go in, but perhaps Neil Diamond should be inducted first. Afterall, he wrote a fair number of the songs they performed!
What about Balck Oak Arkansas, premier southern rock.
The E Street Band!
The E Street Band!
The heart-stopping, pants-dropping, house-rocking, earth-shaking, booty-quaking, Viagra-taking, love-making –
Le-gen-dary E – Street – Band!
HEART!
Ann & Nancy Wilson were the first women to lead a hard rock band. Play, sing, write, produce. There were no other women in 1975/76 who were doing what they were doing... they paved the way for a slew of great rockin' women who came out in the next few years. Ann Wilson still has one of the best voices (male or female) in rock and roll... see them live. Be amazed!
Todd Rundgren – besides his array of music, how many are in the stupid rrhof because HE produced their albums – all stand up – TODD R GOD!
alright you monkeys, let's set the record (no pun intended) straight. you've got the stooges all wrong! they DO deserve to be in the RnR hall of fame! in fact, they deserve to be in ANY hall of fame. don't you all remember the episode, "violent is the word for curly"? this is the one where they are mistaken for college professors and swing the alphabet. this is an absolute classic. if those lyrics don't get down to your soul, then there's something wrong with you. we should have our legislators earn their keep & force them to pass a constitutional amendment to get them into the hall....
The only artists deserving among those on this list are Heart, RHCP, and (possibly) Hall and Oates. Heart because they showed the world that girls can rock with just as much energy and talent as the boys, and the Chili Peppers for making rock-and-roll so much fun to watch either live or on video (not to mention their brilliant songwriting or Flea's virtuosity as a bassist). Hall and Oates possibly because they were so consistent at turning out hit after hit, year after year.
I think that those who made the biggest impact on the music, not necessarily the charts, are the most deserving. The other names did very little to extend and expand rock-and-roll, though some of them did an excellent job to emulate those who clearly influenced them. They just didn't bring much influence of their own.
Red Hot Chili Peppers do not, nor ever should be mentioned in this list!
They aren't fans of music, they are money hungry rednecks!
They blackballed other musicians/bands like Mr.Bungle, from touring and should be thrown back with the trash they emerged from!
The list used as snub examples contains only a few that probably should be there. Depeche Mode, Kiss, TRex, Chicago. Moody Blues, and Alice Cooper for starters. some of the ones you included simply have not help up over the years: Journey (LMAO) Foreigner (too funny). Rush, Hall and Oates, Public Enemy, etc. The Peppers? maybe next year.
If some of these were included, it would trivialize the whole idead of a Rock-n-Roll HOF. Surely some longevity is required to get nominated, No?
I think some miss the point that aside from selling tons of records it helps the nomination if a band is influential. While I agree that Cheap Trick and Kiss seem wrongly excluded, I can't say the same for a majority of that list. I've seen/read interviews with lots of musicians that namedrop Kiss, Cheap Trick and the Stooges and a couple of the others as inspirations but not one say "Yeah, when I heard Styx and Journey that put me on the path." A lot of those bands sold records by creative marketing and radio play that was bought and paid for by their respective labels. Influential? Not really.
What about.... Deep Purple? Not even worthy of a mention? Or Iron Maiden? How about Judas Priest? And like Dan mentioned... Pantera. 1st metal act to have an album debut at number 1 on the Billboard charts?
And Rush, for sure, is a HUGE omission. By that token though, Moody Blues... and Yes need recognized as well.
When did Will Farrell join the Red Hot Chilli Peppers?
Who needs the Hall of Fame. RUSH RULES.
Let me get this straight...ABBA, who were around for a mere 4 years and did absolutely nothing to influence rock'n'roll are indicted but those who influenced today's artists are not. This would include Alice Cooper (The father of shock rock, and he was BEFORE Kiss), Deep Purple (Early hard rock/heavy metal pioneers), Black Sabbath (Ditto), Moody Blues (The originators of concept albums and incorporating orchestral sounds before Metallica), ELO (Ditto) and Smokey Robinson & the Miricles (Pioneers of R&B, a precursor to Hip Hop). What's wrong with this picture?
I'm glad to see this being discussed in more of a national forum – for a few years, it's been us record geeks and die-hard fans moaning about "Mr. Wenner's Club." Along with many of the names you've mentioned, though I don't agree with all of them, can I just say:
JETHRO TULL
YES
TODD RUNDGREN
CAT STEVENS
Rush and Bad Company from this list should def. be in there. This is the ROCK & ROLL hall of fame afterall. I love Jimmy Cliff, seen him, have multiple albums of his, but he ain't R&R. ABBA -WTF? People keep mentioning Rolling Stone magazine – Why? It's a pop/hip-hop rag, today's TigerBeat. No to Yes and Moody Blues also – art rock that makes me sleepy. They should just go ahead and call this the 'Radio Pop Hall of Fame' and let every hack in.
Alice Cooper...no question
If The Cure and Depeche Mode are being listed, then Siouxsie and the Banshees should also be mentioned.
What about Rick Astley?
Kraftwerk and New Order are huge snubs. . . especially Kraftwerk. They were so cutting edge in the mid 1970's with Autobahn. Much like the Grammies. . . the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is not relevant to modern music at all.
bananarama
Can you say 80's? Duran Duran owned the 80's, Rio – Reflex – Wild Boys – Girls on Film – A View to A Kill (only Bond #1) They were on the Cover of Rolling Stones with title 'THE FAB FIVE' Need I say more?
Ok... CLEARLY...its not about who one believes should be in the HOF...but 'what is the accomplishment?' Many of the bands listed on the 'Still waiting' list (whether hated or loved...), DESERVE to be inducted. Many artists today claim influence to those who came before, whether its Alice Cooper, Kiss, Boston or even T-Rex. Perhaps those responsible for nominations and voting should take a look at the process as a whole and not make it a game of favoritism but rather; a process of achievement.
There are still a large number of musicians and bands from the 60's and early 70's that haven't made it in yet. Here is my list:
Quicksilver Messenger Service
Moby Grape
Captain Beefheart
13th Floor Elevators
Love (with Arthur Lee)
King Crimson
John Mayall
Yes
Donovan
Nick Drake
Hot Tuna
Little Feat
Ten Years After
Steve Miller Blues Band
Emerson, Lake and Palmer
New Riders of the Purple Sage
Flying Burrito Brothers
Canned Heat
Deep Purple
Jethro Tull
C'mon, not every band can make in into the hall of fame!! Getting in has to mean something. If the only bands that get in are those who sell a cumulative 5 million albums, then whats the point of voting??? The inductees should have contributed to music and not just wrote average radio tunes and simply joined the ranks of pedestrian music get the honor.
Even though I like the bands on the snubbed list, they are not all international star bands.
Don't forget to add UFO to that list. No band as ever produced more great music over the years as they have. If you don't know them, fix that, you are truly missing out!!
Judas Priest
how can you have a "hall of fame" for something so subjective as art?
It is a matter of personal taste if something is good or bad. In sports it's cut and dry wether someone is good or not.
BTW... I've been to the RnR Hall... It is a joke. It really is more like the Hip hop hall of fame.
Some one should 'doze it.
sjtv
Ronnie James Dio best vocalist of ALL time is he in?
One likes to believe in the freedom of music
but glittering prizes and endless compromises
shatter the illusion of integrity
Too many bands are allowed in each year. They need to trim down how many are honored each year and focus on only those who have made significant music over the course of an entire quarter century. Not that 4 year wonders like Jimmy Hendrix shouldn't be included; but acceptance should require a tremendous and irrefutable influence on r-n-r for shorter careers.
Joan Jett and the Blackhearts...HUGE ommission.
* paved the way for ALL FUTURE REAL women in Rock
Rush...HUGE ommission
* gave power rock a very high degree of musical nuance
What about The Misfits?
Yes is by far the best eligible band not to have been inducted into the Hall.
STEVIE RAY VAUGHAN. How in the world did he not make it in his first year?
Many already mentioned but here are my votes..
THREE DOG NIGHT !!!!
Styx
Chicago (definitely)
Charlie Daniels – rock, country, southern, fiddle, gospel, what can't he do?
Grand Funk Railroad
Linda Ronstadt – are you kidding me? how is she not in already?
Heart
Marshall Tucker Band – seriously, who does the voting anyway?
Ted Nugent
And the list goes on.
Badfinger... 'Day After Day', 'Baby Blue', 'No Matter What' and the standard 'Without You'.
As many other posters agree above RUSH without a doubt should be in the Hall. Since 1974 they STILL put out great albums, STILL play to sell outs worldwide, and Neil Peirt is probably one of the top 5 drummers of ALL time. ABBA had what, 2 or 3 songs that got airtime during their very brief Studio 54 disco era. Whoever votes on these bands must've really had one helluva hangover, to put such an obscure band with so little time in the music world in. Throw Van Halen, Grand Funk, Kansas, and Journey in the bunch that should be in too.
What about Emerson, Lake and Palmer, Kansas or even Yes. The R&R Hall of Fame is a joke and I quit watching or caring a long time ago. They need to change their name to The Music Hall of Fame.
Phish the very first year they are eligible...hands down...end of thread.
How about the band 'Sweet' ?
"Maybe they're holding out on these bands because they know that we're experiencing a terrible time in rock music and in 20 years there will be no one to induct if they let everyone in right now."
Of all the comments I have read, this one makes the most sense. All the acts mentioned are debatable between fans. One of my faves, Little Feat, isn't there. I don't think the criteria is strictly about sales, though it's a factor. LF was never a mainstream band, but man they jam, and all these years later are still doing it. On another note, I would fully agree with putting in the two Neils, Sedaka and Diamond, for their contributions to popular music through arguably the most transformative era of rock and roll. Foreigner? Eh...
We should be able to eject some of the other worthless bands that are already in it and put KISS & Alice in there. Alice invented shock rock theatre, and FILLED stadiums on a 50+ major city tour in 1972 when some of these already inducted wannabes were still playing their Fisher Price pianos.
Long live the Coop.
All listed as snubbed are glaring omissions. All have been influential in many ways.
To Gay4Cash, your comment about Bon Jovi reflects just how little you know about music and rock. Yes BJ started as a hair band in the Glam rock decade of the 80's but they're still around after, what is it?, 25+ years. How many hair bands and glam rockers can say that. And take a peek at the songwriters and you will notice that Jon Bon Jovi and/or Richie Sambora co-wrote or wrote each song. To further address your lack of accuracy addressing their influence I would offer multiple songs used by others (NFL, ABC,etc)., Jon being an Idol mentor on AI, BonJovi being artist of the month on NBC's Today Show in 11/09, Jon writing songs for other artists, Bon Jovi being the top touring band, etc. And the piece de resistance longevity for a hair band from the 80's.
To all the Bon Jovi naysayers forget your personal opinons and acknowledge that this rock band is one of the hardest working bands out there with a widespread influence. Glam rock? Inconsequential? Girlie? Next time listen to the music and learn the facts before you post your words of hate and dislike.
A few people in this comments section suggested The Pixies, and I wholeheartedly agree. I don't think they are eligible yet, though... not til next year at least.
The rock hall only matters to people employed by it or enshrined in it. It's a joke to most of the rest of the world.
That said, if we pretend for a minute that the rock hall had the same kind of cachet as the baseball version, then there are only two potential inductees on your list that deserve a place: T-Rex and Public Enemy. All the rest of those artists were solid singles hitters, might have had fair slugging percentages, stole a base now and again, maybe won an occasional batting title, but never did anything to distinguish themselves from any other potential inductee.
T-Rex, however, was an influential and innovative force. Sure, they never sold many records, but they cast a long shadow ‐ far longer than that cast by anyone else on that list - except possibly Public Enemy. I'm not even a rap fan, but the achievements of Public Enemy are undeniable.
As far as I know Weird Al has never even been nominated. That's borderline criminal.
If you're going to have Black Sabbath and Metallica in the HOF, how can you leave out Judas Priest and Iron Maiden?
Bon Jovi not being is the hall is a joke! Regardless of what you think of their music, the facts are the facts. Over 125,000,000 albums sales!!!! They are not worthy?!?! Livin on a Prayer was voted #1 song of the '80's on VH1?!? Sold-out tours, still, after 25 years?!? WFT!!!
MOTORHEAD, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper, Heart, Kiss, Rick Rubin, Def Leppard, Judas Priest, Peter Frampton, Iron Maiden, and SRV should all be in. Van Halen is already in, Pearl Jam isn't eligible yet, nor is GNR, but both would get my vote, as would Nirvana when they are eligible.
2 words: Cheap Trick!
Ringo.
'nuff said.
Patrick Swayze – "She's Like the Wind" – classic, timeless, legendary
The Doobie Brothers...same conversation every year. The HOF is off on this one.
ABBA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!? Rock Band!!!??
Journey
I use to to think that I would like to see the R & R Hall of Fame some day....until now...I can some up my reason for not going in one word....ABBA.
ABBA is in? What a joke. One dimensional, and that's their good quality!
How can the following be omitted: Alice Cooper (Don't forget, folks, he was BEFORE Kiss), Rush (Before they became commercial), Deep Purple (Precursers to hard rock/heavy metal), Black Sabbath (Ditto), Smokey Robinson and the Miricles (One of the pioneers of R&B), and any other person/band who influenced today's music.
Heart should be inducted immediately.
Hello Chicago, would you please welcome from England, U...F...O!
RUSH, is by far one of the best three man ensembles I have ever heard or seen. They need to be in. Chicago, as long as I can remember, not because of substances, had hit after hit in the 70's and 80's. WOW KISS, even though it took me time to get used to the make-up, should be in as well. E.L.O., Heart and Bad Company should have already been in. I went to their concerts in the 70's, when Rock was ROCK!!!!
Kiss and Chicago should be in!! Bon Jovi (whenever they stop, before they die) should be a no brainer. How many top 10 songs do you need?
I think Bon Jovi still puts out quality music, without to play runaway?
Kiss for image alone should be in. Forget the music. Can you compare them to anyone else?
Chicago has as many hit songs as members?
Someone needs a wake up call...
Rush(Greatest drummer of all time)
Heart (paved the way for femail hard rock bands)
KISS(whom i cant stand but still invented the theatrical concert)
Alice Cooper(His music from the 70's just plain out rocked!!)
Whoever says Iggy and the Stooges dont deserve it is crazy. Listen to their first albums. They punk before punk was ever invented.
GNR will coming up in a few years!!!!!
All I can say is that I grew up in what I believe was Rock & Roll's heyday. I turned 13 in the fall of 1969 and loved the music coming out. None of the groups that made that time so special could possibly care what the RRHOF or anyone else for that matter has to say. They made the music for a generation that would be heard! Amazingly, much of it is still being played and heard today! LONG LIVE ROCK!
It's not a popularity contest, it's the impact that the musicans had on the industry. Did it cause a change in popular music, did other musicians hear the sounds and use them as inspiration fo further innovation.
On the list, it seems to me that only The Cure, Public Enemy and the Red Hot Chili Peppers have had any lasting impact. One band not mentioned probably had a greater impact, but rarely gets mentioned is King Crimson, but if you know anything about progressive rock, metal, electronica and a few other genres, you'd know how influential the band has been.
As it happens, we all have our favorites and the managers of the Hall of Fame know how to maintain interest. (And by the way, I also believe Abba belongs because of their influence on a number of genres as well, besides being immensely popular.)
Alice Cooper SHOULD be in the ROCK & ROLL HAll of Fame!
red hot chili's – love em. but at least they got rich and famous, as opposed to a possible arguably better band – fisbone.
Motorhead!
The MC5 should be in there for sure!. No MC5 = No stooges = No New York Dolls = No Ramones = No Sex Pistols = No Punk Rock = No future of Rock 'n' Roll as we know it. KOTJMF!
I like how the CNN writers saw the comments on the original article describing the new inductees and decided to make a quick, new article about that. Can't decided whether to be impressed with how the internet allowed us to voice our opinions or to be dismayed with these writers taking the easy way out.
The Rock Hall of Fame has always been a little strange. The Beatles and rollin Stones had to wait two to three years to be inducted. How do you figure that? Deep Purple and Neil Diamond are still not in. It is like leaving lifetime .350 hitters out of the baseball hall of fame. I do not want to diminish some of those who are in, but let's face it, the voting has been strange.
Rush not being in and ABBA being inducted just floors me. I saw Husker Du in the comments and thought that was a great idea. Black Flag, Minor Threat, Fugazi, Chicago (their 5 day stint at Carnegie Hall in 1970 alone should get them in....but having Peter Cetera sing those 80's songs should make that null and void). King Crimson, Yes, Peter Hammill. These are bands that influenced other bands, not just hit makers of a certain 2-4 year span.
Jimi Hendrix?
Elvis Costello?
Glad to see the Ramones and the Clash in there though.
Ringo Starr!!!!!!
Deep Purple? 40 years on and not even nominated yet?...HOF is indeed a joke, with admissions primarily paid for by record companies looking for publicity.
Was that an anti-semtic joke in you comments on KISS, Jason ?
That's pretty funny, i am sure you live in a trailer park somewhere married to your sister, with no education or money !
Congratulations, we Jews rule the world, as we should, we're the chosen people, you massive tool !
Enjoy the rest of your pathetic existence
Until Jethro Tull and Thin Lizzy are in, Cleveland is only home to the Hall of Shame. How many artists who are in, or who will soon be, have mentioned Phil Lynott and Ian Anderson/Martin Barre as inspirations in their youth?
not that the hof is worth a dime, but the chilli peppers should not be in it. all of their music sounds the same with maybe one good song in the lot.
Glad to see so many references here to Stevie Ray; he is definitely deserving and it's sad to see him left out
ABBA? When did they become a rock band? And seriously, ABBA inducted before RUSH is even considered? How many platinum albums did ABBA have before it sank into the oblivion it so richly deserved for its Disco trash? RUSH is still going strong and still cranking out platinum albums.
2112!!!
There's been several great acts left out and a lot of bad ones elected. But to me the biggest snub is Dire Straits, or at least Mark Knopfler.
Tommy James
Grand Funk Railroad
I think we are all playing into their (RRHOF) hands with all of this controversy. I live in Pittsburgh and have always wanted to go there, not too far, until now. The majority of the bands I grew up loving, are not there. So screw the RRHOF. RUSH, DEEP PURPLE, KISS and so many more, what a shame or is it sham.
Tom Waits, Chili Peppers, Cheap Trick, KISS, RUSH, and Hall n Oats definitely deserve to be in there,
not so hot on Bon Jovi, Styx or ABBA though... I think they deserve the POP hall of fame but thats it.
Who the hell are the Stooges? I thought Moe, Larry and Curly were TV icons?
Greatest Omissions:
Moody Blues
Chicago
ELP
Doobie Brothers
Heart
Todd Rundgren
LEON RUSSELL
Stevie Ray Vaughn. Seriously folks.
Jimmy Buffett
Pat Benatar
Donna Summer
B-52s
All of these acts made leaps for their time.
This is such an important issue! I can't believe more people aren't spending time commenting on it! Those idiots writing articles on health care reform are distracting people who would otherwise be attention to important stuff like the RRHOF!
Two words.....Milli Vanilli.....come on......girl you know it's true!
MC5
Wow. So many people on here don't know the Stooges. If you don't know the Stooges, your musical education is lacking. Step away from the Top 40 radio and classic rock stations and get thee to a (good) record store.
It's not about rock and roll. It's about getting the right combination of artists to fuel the ratings of the induction show and subsequent tributes. Much like the Oscars, Emmys, Grammys, etc.
Rush is certainly one of the largest gaps on the list. It seems as if the lack of personal notoriety from the rather normal everyday lives of this Canadian trio somehow precludes them from being considered. Alex, Geddy and Neil all seem quite apt at creating music on their terms and maintaining a very loyal following through there diverse career. Rush has been listed in the top 10 most influential bands of all time and many of today's successful long term acts openly discuss the influence Rush has had on their music. They haven't made the cover of Rolling Stone either, but that is a badge of honor they openly wear.
@knuckleheads who say Frank Zappa should be in. Well, he is. He was inducked in 1995.
Try looking under Z for Zappa instread of F for Frank.
how about Leon Russell, the master of space and time.
Most of those bands shouldn't make it in. Niel Diamond and Kiss are just joke bands, no real artistic value or worthwhile to them, likewise with Frampton. There the equivalents of what Boy Bands were in the 90's.
Stooges on the other hand are the biggest motivators to punk rock ever (which, if you dinosaurs haven't noticed has been the mover of popular rock and roll since Cobain).
Regardless, the Hall of Fame is a joke.
RUSH!!! The most talented musicians in the world.
Burt Blyleven should be in. He has the numbers....oh... sorry. Wrong Hall of Fame.
Rush with out a doubt should be in, those three guys have more talent than any other band out there. Iron Maiden should be on the list too, not really big in the US any more but other countries worship them like gods.
LEON RUSSELL has a resume that is virtually UNMATCHED......check it out. There is an online petition to get him in.
petitiononline.com/LRRRHOF/petition.html
Any HOF that includes Madonna and ABBA is NOT rock and roll.
THIS is rock:
Rush
Jethro Tull
Ted Nugent
Deep Purple
Yes
KISS (not my favorite, but...)
The Cars
Journey
Steve Miller
Okay people, here is a link to the list of everyone that has been inducted into the RRHOF so far. Maybe everyone will stop listing bands that have already been inducted!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Rock_and_Roll_Hall_of_Fame_inductees
Some of you need to read – -
"Artists are eligible to be inducted 25 years after their first
recording is released."
It has not been 25 years for Pearl Jam and Guns N Roses.
What about Sonic Youth? They've been eligible for 4 or 5 years now. There's not a single new band today that's worth listening that doesn't cite them as an inspiration. And it's been that way for 15 or 20 years! They're like the Velvet Underground in the scope of their influence.
The Cure, PE and Cheap Trick are all slam dunks, IMHO. Kiss-yes, RHCP-probably. The rest listed would dilute the Hall of Fame. Its' not the "Hall of Every-Band-that-has-put-out-some-decent-records".
John Mayall, JJ Cale, Warren Zevon
There is no doubt that Rush should not only be considered, but should already be members.
It is absolutely insane KISS is not in. How much rock music today was inspired by KISS music? Very strange and really shows the lack of creditability the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has.
Cant believe RUSH isnt in yet.
TOOL must make it ASAP as they are best of all time for me
I don't believe that Kiss sold more records than The Beatles. Can you please produce some evidence to support that?
Chicago should definitely be there.
The Monkees should be inducted as well!!
If you have to ask "Who are the Stooges" perhaps you shouldn't be reading blogs about rock music. Try an easy listening blog.
Hall of fame for music is a joke, how can you have a hall of fame for something that is opinion based and not based on statistics? What gives the people in charge the right to decide who is true rock and roll and who isn't, everyone's views are going to be different.
King Crimson is definitely worthy of the hall of fame seeing as they essentially created the genre of progressive rock
Ten Years After and Grand Funk Railroad
Many of the bands mentioned here that aren't in could easily have been considered before some that are in. Seems to me that bands like KISS and Rush are no-brainers. How about Iron Butterfly? I realize that they had only the one big hit, but what a hit it was! It is considered an icon of the 1960s. I believe that they did more than any other band to usher in the psychedelic rock genre.
Won't be the HOF without Richard Thompson, Yes, XTC and ELP. Hope they get it together or move it to Detroit where it belongs.
So glad that the Stooges are finally in after so many years of eligibility (16 yrs? 17?). Real shame they didn't induct them before Ron Asheton died last year. Anyone who doesn't think The Stooges – the real grandfathers of punk rock – don't belong are just ignorant to the history of rock 'n' roll.
Iron Maiden!!
Jethro Tull: 43 years old, 21 sudio albums, over 60 million albums; sold, nearly 3000 concert dates, and still touring in 2010.
Neil Diamond without doubt should be in the Hall. A man of character who gives to others. Is the Hall stuck on self-promoters who are more famous for antics than music?
Pavement in 4 years!!!
RHCP – Yes!
Captain Beefheart – Yes!
I think what some of you are just perhaps forgetting to realize is that the HOF bases its acceptance of bands on their influence of other bands, the significance of their music as well as their creativity and uniquness. For example, for those of you who think KISS should be inducted, other than their shock theater performances and bravado what significance have they contributed in terms of their music? Have you heard their lyrics? Its complete trash. Jus because you sell 65 million records doesnt make your band good. It just tells you that there is appeal to your music. I know this is a subjective argument but this is the formula that the HOF uses.
KISS, obviously. Still making albums and doing shows. Huge influence. Several top 40 hits in the U.S. and overseas. Rock and Roll All Nite, Detroit Rock City, Beth, I was made for lovin' you, hard luck woman, New York Groove, etc. (Just to name a few.)
Blue Oyster Cult. Another huge influence on many of today's bands, especially lyrically. Basically, an American Zeppelin in a lot of ways. Still touring. Amazing musicians.
SONIC YOUTH!!!
King Crimson
Either you are very young or just very mistaken about the Glam era. Bon Jovi paved nothing, unless it was "how to branch out into acting when your singing career appears to be drying up."
Credit T. Rex, Alice Cooper, David Bowie, Lou Reed, Mott the Hoople, the Stooges, etc. with that honor, dubious as you may believe it to be. Personally, it was tons of fun to have lived through, especially when the general population was still so enamoured with bands such as the 5th Dimension or the Archies (no disrespect intended). I'm delighted to see that so many of those performers are still alive & well to this day
Todd Rundgren. Both as performer and producer.
Alice Cooper and Rush just from a body of work stand point they also influenced a whole generation of future artists.
Then not on the list my personal choices would be Kansas, ELP, this being some of the best stoner music ever made, but I'm not sure this is a proper critieria.
Long live rock.
All these bands listed influenced the music I listened to as I was growing up and still do today. Of all the bands on the list, I have to say the biggest omission is RUSH!
Two Live Crew.
mott the hoople
Todd Rundgren was an influence on the majority of the snubs listed (or completely ripped off of (read: Hall and Oats)). He's been a prolific singer/sopngwriter/producer/pusher of the medium for as long as he has been in the industry.
It's a shame he's never getting his due.
Def Leppard
Chirs is right Little Feat.
From The Rolling Stone Record Guide "One of the best-loved American bands of the 70s."
Waiting for Columbus remains one of the 3 greatest live albums ever.
Their influence can be scene across numerours genre's of American music since 1970.
MURPHY'S LAW!!!
Kiss should definitley be in. Huge influence, lots of record sales. Marketing machine? Sure- but so was ABBA to a degree and nobody is complaining. Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Alice Cooper are worthy of consideration along with 10 to 15 others in metal (thrash, glam, etc).
Hopefully the HOF will evolve a bit. I went last summer and it was a very bland and boring place. I know it can't be everything to everyone but right now it just caters too much to the generic Springsteen and Hendrix crowds.
Pan-ter-a...Pan-ter-a...Pan-ter-a
Alice Cooper & Def Leppard
Apart from Rush, I'd have to second Dire Straits as well. Both are WYSWG bands. By this I mean, seeing either in concert was like being in the studio when they laid the tracks... absolute perfection, with no added preservatives (lip synch, etc.)
Sure there are a hand full of others like Van Halen, and Depeche Mode. But other forces are dictating the nominations away from those who clearly deserve entry. Personally, I don't need the HOF to remind me what good music is. Sooner, or later, your children will be clamouring for what you once listened to, and the HOF will inevitably have to acknowledge it. What is old, is new again....
Duran Duran. They revolutionized the music video and were *the* group of the 80's.
From the comments posted here, it appears to me that there is only one solution: shutter the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and have the Texas school book editors erase it from the history books.
While Rush seems to be a loved or hated band, I think they are the biggest omission by far. The fact that they still sell out arena shows 30+ yrs into their career says a lot. They have solidified their career without the aid of videos or extensive radio support ... they've made it based on the quality of their music, which is what the HOF should be!
As an eclectic music fan, I agree with many of the names mentioned here. Indeed, the list of worthy artists is too many to easily or quickly list. What I agree with also is that "Jann Wenner and his ilk" are a detriment and an embarrassment. They need to be run out of town!
mott the hoople!
Blue Oyster Cult
I cant listen to Rush anymore but forget popularity, they were the most instrumentally talented band assembled, possibly in rock history; couldnt believe when I saw their name on the list. are you positive theyre really not there??
I agree with Chris, LITTLE FEAT!!!!
Jethro Tull have been recording and touring for over FORTY YEARS, breaking ground in virtually every area of rock music with an unparalleled level of musical prowess and shownmanship. It's time Ian Anderson, Martin Barre and company were given the honor they deserve!
The Stooges...? Awesome!!! I love Moe, Larry, and Curly. I hope they are putting Shemp in too.
I agree with most on that list, especially Heart – they are about to release their 14th album which they recorded while on a very heavy tour schedule. They are still amazing in the studio and very rockin' live. As a fan for over 30 years I can attest to their staying power.
Rush is another huge mistake to overlook.
The Steve Miller band should be on the list too!
Cure, Depeche Mode and Dire Straits should eventually get in, but the most glaring omission to me is the J. Geils Band. You can't get more "rock & roll" than them, and even though I'm in favor of blurring the lines to include some pop and R & B artists that transcended their genre, the fact that one of the most relevant rock bands of the 70's and 80's is not in yet is really frustrating and confusing. How does ABBA make it over anyone on that original list? How is KISS not in yet? Really strange stuff.
At this rate, the Partridge Family will get in before most of the bands on the list!
I would like to see KISS, Cheap Trick, Rush, Meat Loaf to name a few.
Maybe the HoF should put 8-10 names on a list and have a "fan" vote for admission to the Hall. Yes, it will be apopularity contest, but at least the fans will have a voice.
Rush is a bunch of contrived, juvenile BS. The Peppers, though, definitely deserve to be in.
(bobilly claimed:
"...without KISS there would be no glam rock, for crying out loud!)."
David Bowie and T Rex amongst others rolled their eyes when they read your post.
Brian Epstein, manager of The Beatles, should be inducted already!
Oh what the heck ... just let everyone in.
Hall of Fames are museums celebrating the history of the subject. No rock n roll HOF is complete without KISS. They have been a major influence for over thirty years. They are still relevant even today. In 1996, when the oringinal members reunited, they sold out arenas in MINUTES. Rock and Roll All Nite is an anthem known by almost everyone. I'd say they are important enough to the history of rock to be included in a RR museum.
Viva la Phish!
Yes, we need to know the criteria . . . . . . .
Yes the R & R Hall of Fame deciders are an out of touch, clueless collection of three piece suits.
This is why I do not respect the hall of fame. I, being bias toward Rush, Chicago and Journey, makes me laugh at what qualifies for this hall of fame. Abba is not real rock, I do not recall any blazing lead guitar solos, socially thought provoking lyrics, or intricate musicianship. Maybe they should call it the "POP" hall of fame. Or maybe the powers that be are to old to really rock and roll?
One more thing HOF, PLEASE remove your Rock n Roll title from your moniker. ABBA is NOT r n r. They're as pop as the Partridge Family for crying out loud!!!!!
Renaissance
Induct all of them. It is after all, a relative system that will not break the laws of physics should a questionable group be inducted. On the other hand, as long as the group fits the 25 year requirement, I don't think it should be voted on by a small committee....I mean, who are THOSE people??
And while they are at it...maybe in the same ceremony that finally inducts glam-rock great T.Rex...they can add Bauhaus. The first band to be labeled as 'gothic' ...and stand alone performers in their own right!
But seriously, the world wouldn't end if they gave it to KISS, Journey, The Cure, etc. so they should just get over whatever is keeping it from happening.
Rush, Yes, Chicago, Heart, Siouxsie & the Banshees.....all overlooked. The Banshees had as many Top 40 songs in the U.K. as the Supremes, for God's sake!
The Rock and Roll Hall of fame is a joke and an oxymoron. That list above isn't even a list of Rock and Roll people for the most part. Let's forget about the no-brainers... Hows about:
Dick Dale: Instrumental Surf Guitar great and probably an influence on anyone who's ever picked up an instrument.
Link Wray: Rockabilly Great.
The J. Geils Band. Awesome Rock and Roll Band
Cheap Trick: Live at Budokan, they don't make audiences that scream like that anymore.
I could go on all day, individuals and bands whose DNA is imprinted on every piece of Rock Music but Jann Wenner hasn't had lunch with them.
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, Pshaw. If there was a real Rock and Roll Hall of fame it would be a dingy bar somewhere with a good sound system and cold beer.
A few names that really should be up considering who else is in the RRHOF...
Don Covay
Sonic Youth
Faces ( Small Faces )
Webb Pierce
Zombies
Misfits
Big Star
Link Wray
red crayola
Scorpions
judas priest
iron maiden
RHCP and Bon Jovi FOR SURE!!
Anvilheadsix, because Motley Crue only had hits in the 80's and might of squeaked one out in the nineties while Metallica has stood the test of time wich is what the RRHOF is all about. Same thing with Kiss. They may have made a big fan base and alot of money but didn't really contribute that much to the music world . If you only make hits for a decade then you don't deserve it.
I agree with those who say KISS music speaks for itself - it sucks. But KISS did make the world safe for ugly untalented men who can't move their hips. No wonder they have so many fans.
The awards shouldn't be about airplay and popularity, but rather influence. They finally got it right by inducting the Stooges. Talk to any number of musicians (particularly those in punk, grunge and new wave bands) and they'll often tell you that they were one of the most influential bands ever in rock and roll. Their (the Stooges) induction may come as a surprise to some of the commentators here, but it's clear they know nothing of alternative music that is either controversial or doesn't get repetitively rammed down your ears every time you turn on the radio.
seeing the list of yet-to-be nominees shows the hall of fame foundation has no credibilities
Iron Maiden is way overdue. The Smiths. The Replacements. Has Big Star been put in there yet?
It's not just about record sales or popularity. A band like Iggy and the Stooges deserve to be in the HoF because they were innovators and at the forefront of what would become punk rock. What they contributed to R&R artistically and their lasting influence is far more important that how many records the Red Hot Chili Peppers or Bon Jovi have sold. How many musicians have you ever heard cite Bon Jovi as an influence?
Iron Maiden has been a force in the music industry arguably since the late 70's and are still just as good and perhaps more popular than ever. How can they be excluded!
No one's mentioned Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 !! (And, for good reason!!)...anyway, my final post of those deserving to be inducted in the Hall:
1. Moody Blues
2. Jethro Tull
3. ELP
4. Alice Cooper
5. Dire Straits
6. T-Rex
7. Petula Clark
8. Guess Who
9. Warren Zevon
10.Smokey Robinson & The Miracles
Honorable mention: Journey, Chicago, Hall & Oates...wouldn't quibble if they're elected!! If we did this last year, I would've said, the Hollies, whom I consider the best singles GROUP this side of the Beatles!! So, I'm quite happy they're going in tonight...
I hope the hall of fame will start a new induction process.. obviously too many bands get in that do not have the same right as other bands... where is "heart" Kiss etc..
Uriah Heep
What about Yes? Jon Anderson still sounds absolutely amazing after
35 + years.
Ummm...how did ABBA make it in over Stevie Ray Vaughn....what the heck is that????
I think there are many names that are on this list should be in the rock HOF, but the one that would be first on my list is Rush – love them or hate them they have been at it for years, and they still put out new music – unlike many of the bands of that era who resign themselves to touring on thier old hits / albums. Unfortunately this is a musem trying to appeal to a more diverse population to try to draw in people – so they have diverged from their original calling of being a recognition to the Rock & Roll contributors – I don't fault them – it's a business after all – but they can do us all a favor and quit calling it the Rock & Roll hall of fame – come up with something that is more generic since the mission has been diluted!
Anyone who doesn't know why The Stooges got inducted doesn't know crap about rock and roll – the only big question there is why The MC5 didn't get inducted along with them. Those two bands, and the "Detroit Sound" they crafted, are the direct link from Sam the Sham and The Pharoahs to every band we ever mention playing at CBGB's, and many others. No Sex Pistols without The Stooges – heck, I'm not even sure we'd have David Bowie without The Stooges. Glam's edge and swagger was a pure homage to the literate yet street "rat rock" these two bands personified.
What about Boston? How can they not be included in the hall? They've influenced the sound of more bands than you can count. You can still hear their songs on the radio every single day and some of them are almost 35 years old.
is the rock n roll hall of fame anti-canada? cant believe bands like rush, guess who and april wine are not in there. hey rrhof, rock n roll music is not only american
Air Suppley! Ratt! John Denver! The whole Rock'n'Roll Hall of Fame thing is a sham. Rock came to being to defy convention, not become another convention. No one can properly define what Rock'n'Roll is enough for the nomination criteria to make any sense. Record sales? Who gives a damn!
The Marshall Tucker Band, the pride of South Carolina!
There is no RnR-HOF - there is only a Bubble-Gum Pop Music HOF. The femtosecond they voted in Madonna, they lost any hope of redemption. (That's not to say that Madonna isn't musically talented or commercially successful, it's just that she just has nothing to do with Rock n Roll.)
Does any remember Deep Purple...hello? Come on, not only did Deep Purple record some of the best classic rock lps ever....they had Ritchie Blackmoore as guitarist for a long time. Remember if you will, Ritchie is one of the best rock guitarist to walk this earth. It's way over due that this great band was honored and inducted into the Roll and Roll Hall of fame. A lot of the previous inductees are a joke.
How about Tiny Tim? Tiptoe through the tulips....
How about Iron Maiden? They were one of Metalica's biggent influances.
THE HOF voters are a joke? They all should be fired!
Its one big scam!
I bet some of them don't even know the history some who some of the bands listed? The people who love rock 'n' roll like me should get to vote, not some clowns from the HOF?
Deep Purple
J. Geils Band
The aforementioned artists deserve to be in the RRHOF but most music lovers know that it's a joke. when Jethro Tull gets' in before all these guys do, something is amiss!
Peter Frampton would be my number 1 pick;from his songwriting to his ability to actually play and perform are without comparison. I had the good fortune of seeing him live about two years ago and it is by far the best concert I've seen to date. If you have not seen him, don't pass up the opportunity to do so.
What about Iron Maiden? KISS is a huge FAIL by the so called voting committee as well!!
Stooges? Come on! Dire Straits should be on the list.
I live in Cleveland and didn't know that Jethro Tull, Moody Blues, Alice Cooper, etc. AREN'T in the R&R Hall of Fame But they're inducting ABBA, a group which spawned the worst musical and one of the worst movies of all time are being inducted. There is no justice. I knew there was a reason why I've only been there once. I imagine that Brian Eno probably hasn't beem inducted either.
I think that the Monkees should be considered. They outsold the Beatles and Stones combined in the mid-60's in the USA. Also, has Traffic been inducted? If not, they should definitely be in the Hall.
Pearls Before Swine get my vote.
Bad Company, Chicago and Journey are three of the best ever for different reasons. I don't understand how they are not there already.
Carole King is in as a songwriter but not as a performer. She has one the the biggest selling albums of all time and is still credited with being an inspiration to many of the younger artists of today. She helped start the whole singer songwriter trend especially for females. She is still performing to sold out crowds today.
The hall of fame is pretty pathetic!
Jan Weiner!!! That explains it all. HE HATES PROG IN ALL ITS FORMS. No matter how manyrecords got sold or how much they changed the frontiers of music.
I son't like all of the bands listed by people psoting, but in mny cases I can see why they should be there.
I am only two hours from the RRHOF, and You will never see me there. THe whole thing is lame.
what about the doobie brothers
What about the #1 Progressive Rock band of all time:
EMERSON, LAKE AND PALMER
They need to go in now!!!
The Cars would be my vote.
With all of the omissions listed here, I think the R&R HOF is drastically over rated. Chicago with somewhere around 30 albums, and tons of top 10 hits, give me a freakin break. They should list all of the artists that made the list and let us comment on those! What a joke!
THE J.GEILS BAND = ROCK N ROLL!!!
and Peter Wolf could be in on his own too!
This is fascinating. Hadn't thought of Zappa, how could he not be in?
Ted Nugent? You have got to be kidding.
Hall and Oates perhaps should be in. Darryl Hall should be in for his website Live from Darrly's House alone – best music website ever.
I am not a fan of Rush but I understand the argument in their favor.
I think fans of Alice Cooper have a strong case – his influence was enormous and he had some great songs..
Kiss? Not for me. They are more about self promotion and bombast that music.
Grand Funk was the first group I ever saw and I think they were fantastic – but they don't make the cut.
I thought Yes were one of the greatest groups ever – and now it is almost painful to listen to their music – shouldn't music be timeless to get in the HOF?
I recently listened to Chicago's first two albums for the first time in years and I was astonished at the beauty, complexity and depth of the music. For those records alone they should be in the HOF – this from a guy who prefers electronic music.
Again – Jonathan Richman, Todd Rungren, Joe Jackson, and Kraftwerk should be in the HOF – music lovers of the world unite!
I think KISS could have been inducted a while ago if Gene Simmons hadn't watered-down the KISS brand name through relentless commercialization.
abba, give me a break, elevator music at its worst
How is it that nobody has considered The Cars?
@ wiley and eernie, ever hear of Iggy Pop? That's the Stooges!
No Fun, I wanna be your dog, Search and Destroy, probably THE seminal punk band.
what about the Doobie Brothers 30 years, more hits than you can count– the hall is a joke
The Feelies........the best band you never heard of!
What about Frank Marino, one of the most amazing guitar players of all times. If you don't know him he used to play with Mahogany Rush, check it out.
What about a great band that has survived for about 40 years.....Little Feat!
Yes Kiss,Journey, ELO, Cheaptrick and all the rest is Rock nRoll Paul maybe not your kind of music but it is .. I don't like Rap music but I don't damn it I don't even listen to it. But that doesn't mean it's not music because to the listener it is and that's ok because it's what they like. So music is what ever you like and I like that kind of music along with the older stuff too....
Chicago, Rush, and Moody Blues should have already been inducted. A few have mentioned Jethro Tull too, and I agree. That's a huge slight. I can't believe ABBA is getting in before any of these.
Jethro Tull
Abba over Rush, seriously, who votes for these things...
Most of you people wouldn't know real rock n roll if it were knocking on your door. Half the bands you are mentioning are complete jokes, in that case, maybe they should be in the hall.
Pearl Jam!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chicago: 100,000,000 albums sold. Five straight number one albums in the 70's... recorded a year apart. They would tour 250 dates a year and do a new album, every year.
Anyone that doesn't think they were great musicians should get on the web and watch a vid of Terry Kath. He was shredding before it even had a name. One of the underapreciated guitarists of all time.
The Hall doesn't know much about guitar. SRV's omission is another example of that.
how about Yoko?
What about YES....
The undisputed kings of Prog Rock
Depeche Mode not being included in the hall is a complete joke. They have sales of about 100 million worldwide. They are still extremly popular, currently selling out shows across the world and still debuting new music, their album last year was #2 on the billboard charts. They are one of the most influential bands of all time. For those that say they are not rock, well that apparently doesnt matter for the Hall, madonna is in it. Anyway they are rock, maybe not there songs from the 80's but a bunch of there stuff from the 90's is def rock. Not to mention the huge influence they have had on new rock bands playing today, such as Muse.
all I'm going to say is rock and roll all nite, and party every day
Traffic, Stevie Windwood, the Rascals, Procol Harum, War, Funky Parliments, Luara Nyro,Blood Seat & Tears, Bufalo Springfield, Mandrill, anybody but ABAB. ABBA is not rock & roll niether are any of those soft rock groups from the 80's i.e. Air Supply . This hall no longer stands for ROCK & ROLL. Where's Gene Vincent? Lets start a real Rock hall of Fame and leave Warner to his gay likes and dislikes. He's ruined Rolloing Stone anyway.
No, it is a crime that the R'n"R HOF seems destined to become the HOF for rap, hip-hop, etc.
I think the genesis entry is past its due. The stooges.....I don't know how people are knocking the stooges or have no idea who they are. Look up some info on the band, and you're opinion may change. I'm not a punk fan, but you have to acknowledge Iggy Pop and the stooges contributions to music, Iggy Pop is the godfather of punk. Without The Stooges and their influence other notable punk groups such as Rancid, The Sex Pistols, Black Flag, The Misfits, The Clash etc. may not have been.
On the other hand, I'm more of a Rock/Hard Rock guy, I mostly agree with some of these other ideas such as Rush, Yes, Stever Miller Band, and frekkin Ozzy for crying out loud, the list goes on and on.
Whoever decides who the inductees are, needs to be replaced. ABBA rock n roll?.....There's the jazz HOF, and of course the rock HOF, but why so much diversity in one HOF, why isn't there a disco HOF? Does disco and super soft elevator music belong at the rock HOF? If a band doesn't ever "rock" or "roll" at any one point in their career, they shouldn't be inducted.
I am sorry. KISS is as original as it gets. The entire list shown here needs to be in the HOF. Also, Donnie Iris!!! Love Is Like A Rock!!!
Most on that list have all had a strong impact on generations...if Brittany Spears gets nominated we'll know there were lobbyists behind this mistake as well...
Rush and KISS definitely. Look at the number of bands that list them as influences. Ted Nugent was and is still a great performer despite his political views.
And there are a lot of influential metal bands missing like Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Slayer and Megadeth. Since Metallica is there these others should be too.
Gay4cash...you picked the right name for yourself but your personal opinion of Bon Jovi is just that....your opinion.
Journey and Kiss most definately deserve to be inducted. Moody Blues, Foriegner and Bad Company should be next in line too. Who pays these people to sit on this committee? How much does their vote cost? Because they don't know good music when they hear it if they have this list of greats that haven't made it yet.
How about the Doobie Brothers. They still put on a great live show.
This whole affair is somewhat analogous to the Oscars, it really can't be taken seriously. Look how long it took Spielberg to get an Oscar? Perhaps it takes an artist, to appreciate other artists work. That's why growing up as a kid, I could only dream of emulating some of the things Rush pulled off. Their signature sound is not only complex and timeless, but has challenged many other "serious" artists to perfect their craft. For a band that has been ground breaking for many others, and far more technically advanced in terms of individual skills, a snub is simply unthinkable.
I know that most people think their music is silly but The Osmonds are still around and have stuck to their style despite all the negative comments.
Madonna over Mark Knopler?
ABBA over Dire Straits?
you forgot CYNDI LAUPER!!
The R&R Hall of Fame is a joke. Yes, there are very worthwhile artists who have been enshrined but for the most part the whole process is just Jann Wenner and Rolling Stone magazine kissing the arses of who they think are fashionably cool enough for induction. Madonna was a first-ballot inductee... that says a lot right there, and it's not good.
At the top of my list of artists who've been overlooked are Deep Purple and Rush. Rush especially... there are a lot of great bands out there today who cite Rush as a major influence. What's ironic is Rolling Stone can't help but wet themselves over those bands, but have no love for Rush whatsoever.
All quality artists deserving of a nod.
But I still have to criticize your efforts. You yourself are snubbing the likes of Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motorhead, Slayer, and Megadeth. Those right there are as vital to rock and metal as Metallica, whom received an induction just this past year.
If T-Rex and some of these artists you're showcasing are deserving, the ones I listed overshadow them considerably.
But I guess you just dont 'understand' them.
We all have our personal tastes and the term 'rock & roll' can encompass a wide range of artists, but it's way beyond the bounds of reason that Rush and Yes are missing – their influence on other artists, their innovativeness, skill, longevity, the passion & loyalty of their fans...c'mon!
Tons of other worthy suggestions here too. Someone needs to start a competing hall and start by defining & enforcing clear criteria to prevent BS politics from creeping in.
I'm not a fan of Motley Crue but since Metallica hired their producer, used Tommy's drumkit and make what were basically Motley Crue albums during the 90s, how are they in there and the Crue isn't?
Joe Jackson
Frank Zappa
Todd Rundgren
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Yes
Alice Cooper
The Cars
KISS surprised me. I thought they already were in but .... who's T-Rex? I've never even heard of that group. (side note) I did some looking and T-Rex was a mediocre rock band, at best, from '67 to '77. They never had a #1 song or even a to 10 album. All in all, they were a very forgettable band.
Case in point: If RHCP is going to go in for influencing the bands of today, then the Pixies need to go in for the same reasons:
The Pixies influenced a guy named Kurt Cobain.
The Red Hot Chili Peppers influenced a guy named Fred Durst.
The first name I expected to see was Jimmy Buffett.
I've never seen so many comments in response to an article on this website. Music is like religion... people will defend it to the death.
Your suggestions of: Bad Company, Peter Frampton, Heart, Bon Jovi, Journey, Foreigner is complete joke, for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame? These bands may have sold a lot of albums, but they are definately not HOF material. It's really even pretty silly that the Red Hot Chili Peppers have a nomination, they just don't have enough albums or a long-enough career at this point, or enough of an impact on music.
The biggest omissions at this point in time are: Slade, Rush, and Link Wray.
The Moody Blues have been more influential in the rock industry than any of the other bands listed. They pioneered both concept albums as well as the use of orchestra in rock music. They should be included as soon as possible without a doubt.
I would also vote for ELO. Jeff Lynne has written more top 40 hits than just about any other composer alive today. They may not have produced anything in years, but I still hear ELO on the radio all the time.
I'm rooting for my band: Broadway Phil and the Shouters - striahgt outta Murphy, Oregon!
We'll be eligible in about 9 years.
I hope I can count on your vote.
We're certainly obscure enough.
Ask Little Steven Van Zandt, he knows who should be there and who shouldn't. And I think that RRHOF should be place for significant and influential artists/bands, not to those who have sold most records!
There are so many groups and artists that I love, and that I know others love, that have never made it into the Hall of Fame that it's hard to pick. My all-time favorite performer, though, has got to be Jimmy Buffett. He's an amazing artist, and the only one I've ever stood in line to get tickets for. The last few years have given me no end of amusement as I watch popular artists use him in their music (5 o'clock Somewhere leaps straight to mind).
It should be government run, government controlled. Just like the media. And we could let everyone in so no one's feelings get hurt.
Yes, it could be brought to you by the same people who brought you Social Security, the post office, medicaid, medicare, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.
Until they put certain requirements and guidelines, it will never have any credibility. Like the UN.
Look how long it took them to put Metallica in. And only after embarrassing acceptance speeches by bands that only picked up instruments because of Metallica.
Sparks – from glam rock in the 70's to whatever it is they do now.
Al Kooper – a poor man's Todd Rudgren
10cc – paved the way for Crowded House with witty lyrics.
Brian Eno – just because.
The fact that Jimmy Buffett is not in the Hall shows what a sham the place really is.The guy has written over 400 songs,been touring
since the 70's,even this year 30 dates announced,has over a million parrothead fans,worth more $$$ then most other groups mentioned put together.long live his music!!!
YES is also a group that has been overlooked.
ABBA? Moody Blues? We're scraping the bottom of the barrel here. The HOF went from Hendrix, The Beatles, the Stones, PFunk, Muddy Waters, Sabbath and Aretha to groups like Deep Purple, ELO and ABBA. Popular does not equate legendary (i.e. Hall of Fame). Music is dying, U2 is the last of the truly legendary bands and the above list of ommissions testifies to this sad fact. Perhaps the Hall should not elect anybody for a couple of years. That being said- KISS should be there. And it's about time the Stooges got some love (1970!) No problem with Afrika Bam- one of the pioneers of hip-hop. PE should be there. But I cannot see Chuck and Prof Griff up there spitting fire like Terrordome while the music industry big-wigs look on (So-called chosen frozen, apologies reach who ever it pleases now they got me like Jesus-lol).
The Smiths. They should have made it either this year or 2009.
Boy George ...what? Ok nevermind
Cat's Ass!!!!
Depeche Mode single handedly changed electronic music and influenced dance music forever. I look at that list and can't think of anyone else who had more impact on their respective genre.
Chicago – without a doubt. In fact, it's a crime they're not in. I would never visit the HOF because of it. 100 million records sold. #13 act all-time by Billboard. Incredible durability.
Gravy posted a list that included the following:
KISS – NO
Depeche Mode – YES
The Cure – YES
Chicago – NO
Hall and Oates – NO
Rush – Yes
Alice Cooper – NO
Moody Blues – NO
E.L.O. – NO
Cheap Trick – NO
Bad Company – NO
Peter Frampton – NO
Heart – NO
T-Rex – YES
Bon Jovi – NO
Journey – NO
Foreigner – NO
Public Enemy – YES
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – YES
& the Stooges are a HUGE influence on other bands that came after them, still until this day... A lot tof the bands on this list just existed, like them or not, successful or not, they left no legacy.
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If your criteria for inclusion is the influence a band had on those that followed, your 'no' to Alice Cooper is so wrong it can never be right. The Coop set the standard for combining hard rock and theatrics. And he's been doing it since 1968. RHCP were mere glimmers in the eye of their parents when Vince and the boys were causing outrage around the globe, they certainly influenced more musicians than RHCP.
The Alice Cooper group should have been in the RRHoF years and years ago.
The Guess Who should have been in there a long time ago.
Hey Steve, turn off AOL, The Stooges are probably one of the greatest influential bands in history. Iggy Pop single handedly invented both punk and heavy metal. With that being said, the Rock n Roll HOF is a joke, as is Rolling Stone magazine. Are The Jonas Brothers going to be included in 2035? Should I ever visit Cleveland, you can bet that I will not attend this shrine to payola and status quo mediocrity. The HOF is almost a stain on a true artists career
Right Said Fred!!!!!
KISS – NEVER
Depeche Mode – Yes
The Cure – Yes
Chicago – Yes
Hall and Oates – No
Rush – Yes
Alice Cooper – on the bubble
Moody Blues – Yes
E.L.O. – on the bubble
Cheap Trick – on the bubble
Bad Company – Yes (At least Paul Rodgers)
Peter Frampton – Yes (solo and humble pie)
Heart – on the bubble
T-Rex – Yes
Bon Jovi – No
Journey – No
Foreigner – No
Public Enemy – on the bubble
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – Yes
Lest we forget Queensrÿche? they have neeb rocking since the the early 80's and still putting out great records.
Rÿche Rulz!
Pass the salt..........
Has to be Chicago....mult- talented band.
No Journey! That alone says they are a joke.
The Monkees
Like them or not, they had a great carreer and held a number of records for chart time. They may have started as a Beetles rip (and may have ended as one too) but they have HOF credentials
Delaney and Bonnie Bramlett.
When they performed in England, member of the Stones, the Beatles, and many other prominent groups were there each night, electrified and amazed by the band's performances, musical prowess, and energy, which is why people like George Harrison, Eric Clapton, Dave Mason, and others so quickly went on to perform with them. Both Delaney and Bonnie were truly amazing vocally!
No Way Ever for Bon Jovi. Way too girlie rock.
Stooges - yes! How about MC5 (if not in already)?
One that I can name who goes back further than any on the list is Neil Diamond.
The kind of musicians that deserve R&RHOF recognition are the ones that casual music listeners usually haven't even heard of. A perfect example is the late Chris Whitley – a no-so-well-known musician whose music style covered many genres, including rock. He was a musician that other musicians were influenced by. Keith Richards is counted among his many musician fans. He was extremely influential, yet not mainstream. I think orgs like R&RHOF recognize names more than real talent.
I think KISS should have already been in... I mean look at the history with this band... I say put KISS in!!!! Asap!
"Popularity is a crime from the moment it is sought."
–The Marquis of Halifax
I agree that Little Feat should be in the Hall. Ludicrous that they are not in already. I'll also throw my support for Bruce Cockburn. Check out his album "Stealing Fire" for why he should be in there.
What are the requirements to get in? How in the hell does ABBA get in over bands like Journey, Heart, and Rush? Might as well let Wham in the hall! What a joke!
You have to be an ORIGINAL band! to be inducted not just another immitator like KISS Def lepards?? etc. Cover bands are not eligible.
The band has to be Original. Groundbreaking, game changing, NEW completely different get it !
Not just dronning on for 25 years. 25 years and lets say your the Beatles ok your in . Check
25 years and your Kiss, load beep sorry nothing new here Next.
The R&R Hall of Fame is for the Elite. It's not automatic.
Just remove almost any of the 80"S bands and you have pretty much got it correct.The 80s were such a music wasteland!!!
You absolutely have to induct Kiss... even if they are demanding 25% of the entry fee. I don't care who you are, or if you like the band or not (I don't frankly), but everyone knows a Kiss song. EVERYONE. Plus, they've sold a gazillion albums.
Rush – Godfathers of prog rock. To exclude them (and King Crimson) is a crime.
Without Alice Cooper, there is no HOF. That guy perfected horror vaudeville well before Ozzy, Rob Zombie, and Marilyn Manson ever thought of it.
Why the Sex Pistols (with exactly one album under their belts) are inducted and other punk pioneers like Black Flag, the Minutemen, Dead Kennedeys, and The Misfits are excluded is a mystery too. Maybe all in time. At least they got it right by inducting The Stooges this year.
The Cure, Kraftwerk, and Depeche Mode are the absolute best at what they do. Period. Tech-synth forefathers who are influencial on tons of bands out there. They've been at it for years, and only et better with time.
Deep Purple, Dio, Iron Maiden, T-Rex, and Judas Priest all deserve their slot for being the Godfathers of the British Wave of Heavy Metal. Each of these bands are still touring, and somehow influenced every metal band that there is today. Period. At least Black Sabbath (who wrote every great guitar riff, EVER) is in, along with Zeppelin, AC/DC, and the Who.
The HOF got it right by putting in Metallica last year. Hopefully, this opens it up for Anthrax, Slayer, and Megadeth. Without the "Big Four" there wouldn't be any great rock out there today. They definied speed metal, and all turned out to be giants 25 years later.
And, in time, The Pixies should absolutely be in. They influenced grunge all the way from Boston in the mid-80's. Ask any band from Seattle. They'll tell you. They're albums are brilliant, and like nothing before or since. Same goes for Husker Du, The Replacements, and Sonic Youth.
Still not sure what Madonna and ABBA are doing in the "Rock and Roll" HOF. It's a mystery to us all, and smacks of some popularity contest. Who's next? Lady Gaga? The Backstreet Boys? Vanilla Ice? The Black Eyed Peas? Some other flash in the pan? Please. If R&B, bubblegum pop, and rap want "their own" Hall of Fames, I say... fine. But leave the Rock and Roll HOF to the people that actually write their own songs and who can actually strum a guitar.
Definitely Hall and Oates. These guys have written songs and sung them forever. Still performing and going strong. Must really be a political thing that has kept them out.
Grand Funk Railroad,James Gang,Rare Earth, Uriah Heep, Mott The Hoople, Blue Oyster Cult, Edgar Winter to name a few
ELO > All of this year's inductees.
Iron Maiden (#2 most influential behiond Sabbath in metal) and Anthrax (actually made rap & rock work unlike Aerosmith) are overlooked but as soon as they were eligible they let Selloutica in! If you kiss up the baby booming old fogeys and remake their songs (Turn the Page) to get them some royalty money you get an all access pass!
JETHRO TULL for gods sake, is Grand Funk in?
What about Dire Straits? Moody Blues, of course. Kiss – nah. Yes, naturally. I can't believe Journey isn't in there. I actually have to admit I like Abba, but never really considered that Rock 'n Roll. Bizarre, and thus somewhat meaningless, entity – this Rock 'n Roll HOF.
Definately CHICAGO!!!
Dr. Hook
Is there no justice in this world? Where are Milli Vanilli and The Archies (Sugar, Sugar!)?
the B-52's of course!
It's the reasons why they choose to induct some, but not induct others that makes me mad.
Apparently, KISS isn't in the Hall (and will never make in the Hall of Fame, if some voters can get away with it) because apparently the band was more on commercial success than critical success.
But pop artists like Madonna, Michael Jackson and ABBA were shoo-in's when they were inducted for the exact same reasons: huge commercial success.
I just think Rock N' Roll Music is bigger than someone trying to define it into a hall, like these guys are doing.
Rush is hands down the one on that list that should be in the HOF. Actually they should get their own Hall, for being the most tallented band ever, sure there are great bands that were carried by 1 or 2 extremely talented members, but IMHO all 3 members of Rush are the best at their respective intruments. You rarely find a whole band that talented.
pixies
dead kennedys
... btw, is jj cale in the hof?
No Cure? No Depeche? Shame shame shame
What is the official criteria for membership? Just that 25 years must have passed since the first official release of material? Why not let the fans have a say? I would also vote for Marshall Tucker, Alice Cooper, Peter Frampton, Bad Company, and Steve Miller, to name a few. But is this not just a popularity contest anyway?
A lot of the inductees are not even "rock". Mostly Pop fluff and R&B, but definitely not rock. It should be called the Pop hall of fame LOL. I like Doug's list a lot BTW. There should be a lot more Metal and Prog in here.
It really isn't a hall of fame for rock bands if Blue Oyster Cult isn't in it!
After scrolling down through the hundreds of comments and reading of the righteous indignation of dozens of Rush fans upset that the complexities and the genius of their music has not recognized, reading angry missives that the non-inclusion of metal is a crime, reading the pro and cons of KISS, of ABBA, of RHCP, etc., I realize that I would like to make HOF nominations for the Texas State Board of Education, Prime Minister Netanyahu, and health care reform. Why? Your attention, anger, and righteous indignation would be better directed towards things that effect people's lives. I like Rush, like RHCP, and have grown to appreciate ABBA's pop contributions to popular culture, but please consider prioritizing the destruction of American values at the hands of fundamentalist ideologues, the prolonged wars in the Middle East, the continued crippling of the economy by a lack of meaningful changes in health care - please, turn your rage towards something more meaningful than Geddy Lee!
Uh, Def Leppard anyone?
For those who raised the name of Weird Al, though he ran with the ball of spoof music and took it to a new level, the ball was handed to him by Alan Sherman and Ray Stevens.
Frank Zappa and the Mothers
What about Judas Priest, Iron Maiden and Motorhead? Or Deep Purple? Clearly there is a bias on not letting heavier bands in, given that Black Sabbath was finally inducted many years after they were first eligible. I enjoyed that when Metallica was inducted last year, James Hetfield started his acceptance speech by listing bands that should have been in way before them, and expressed hope that now that they were in, their influences would finally be able to join them. But at the end of the day, it really doesn't mean anything anymore, because they've now let in so many acts that have nothing to do with Rock N' Roll (Run DMC?)
CHICAGO and the MOODY BLUES should be shoo-ins. The quality and longevity of their talent speaks for itself.
Who could ever forget Barry Manilow and that classic R&R song Copacabana.
Why even now it brings a tear to my eye – Her name was Rita. She was a showgirl.......
Rock on Barry, Rock on!!
How Yes, Rush, Sabbath and Chicago are not in reaks of some kind of conspiricy. These bands have been staples of Rock Radio stations for 40 years and have released albums and have toured pretty much throughout. Yeah, you know, the bands that sold out arenas for decades, influenced millions of musicians and sold millions of albums/cd's and videos.
Some bands, such as Yes did long-format concept albums, but also had number one hits and heavy, heavy rotation during MTV's pioneering days when they played rock bands (It is the Rock Hall, not the pop Diva or Rap Hall, but whatever.)
If these bands don't get in (as well as quite a few other obvious ones), then the Rock Hall loses all credibility.
Even more than it already has by including Rap, Madonna and ABBA
into its halls.
It's the Rock Hall, not the Pop Hall. That's a huge difference, regardless of how many videos are produced or number one pop singles processed.
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Wow..the comments here are great!! You've all thought of everyone!! If a had to base this on MY album, cassette, CD collection since 1966, then my top snub would be, the Moody Blues – I must have everything of theirs, from the "Go Now" days, thru 1986...though they seemed like "fluff" to many of the reviewers of the day, there's no doubting their versatility of different musical styles – mellow to rock&roll...easy on the ears...another similar group that should be in the Hall is, Emerson, Lake, and Palmer.
almost everyone has it right.....there are probably 25 more bands that should have made it into the Hall by now.
Humble Pie – anyone
Pretty amazing to see Chicago & Journey on this list. Would take both of them over any of this years list in a HEARTBEAT !!
RUSH!!!!!! Hands down!
The Stooges were Punk before Punk was coined. In terms of influence, the Ramones beat the hell out of Fun House for days. Bowie was clearly influenced by the band. While the flames of the Stooges were short, their influence continues to this day. Before Ron Ashton died, the Stooges performed at the Virgin Mobile Festival and the young bands that played at this festival were ALL behind stage watching the Stooges during their set, genuflecting to the master of power Punk. Period.
RUSH Journey (not a better voice in rock & roll than Steve Perry)
CHICAGO's omission is HUGE. So is RUSH. And so is ALICE COOPER. Another deserving band not even mentioned is 3 DOG NIGHT. (Nobody was bigger in the 70's.) The Stooges induction into the HOF tells you all you need to know about the RRHOF selection committee. It really is a joke and it unfortunately makes the RRHOF simply irrelevant. The powers that be there in Cleveland have their favorites and that is blatantly obvious to the most casual observer. It's really a shame....
sorry folks i left out
pat benatar
steve miller band (for sure)
but i still feel strong about
the scorpions
rush!
HEART
Sisters Ann & Nancy Wilson have been rocking since the 70's.
New album "Red Velvet Car" – July 2010.
Frank Zappa, Koko Taylor, Earha Kitt, Etta James, gee whiz
Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Yes, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull
And some of you guys need to look at the list of inductees....Van Halen and CCR have already been inducted.....
Boo Ted Nugent . NEVER Ted Nugent. He stands for everything that Republicans are about and NOT Rock and Roll.
Tori Amos
Warren Zevon is my top choice, but he'll never get in. why? Because he and Jann Wenner (who's on the nomination committee) had a run-in over 20 years ago. Why do you think Eric Clapton's been in three times (with the Yardbirds, with Cream and as a solo act)? Because Jann likes Clapton. As long as Jann Wenner's alive, Warren will never get in.
And that's sad. Because Warren is one of the great human stories of rock. He's not a casualty of rock, although he certainly came close. He was a child prodigy from a broken home who wrote great music and made a real impact on rock music. Warren's influence continues to be felt today as his catchphrases are used in popular culture and as songwriters aspire to intelligent yet gritty works. Warren deserves a space here.
Yes (Bruford/White? Howe/Rabin? Kaye/Wakeman?), Rush, Blue Oyster Cult, Journey and Moody Blues. All put in *decades* of great albums and shows, and most of them still do.
Green Day!! but they're shot of 10 years....
KISS – Yes
Depeche Mode – No
The Cure – Yes
Chicago – On the bubble
Hall and Oates – No
Rush – Yes
Alice Cooper – Yes
Moody Blues – No
E.L.O. – On the bubble
Cheap Trick – On the bubble
Bad Company – Yes
Peter Frampton – No
Heart – Yes
T-Rex – No
Bon Jovi – Yes
Journey – No
Foreigner – No
Public Enemy – On the bubble although it isn't R&R
Red Hot Chili Peppers – Yes
The larger issue at hand is how is it defined? Madonna and ABBA are most certainly NOT R&R. If you want to call it the MUSIC HOF, then you can make a good case for both as well as many others on the above list. The R&R HOF was a good idea, but in practical application, it's too niche to keep it the R&R HOF. Rename it and then you can include more people without the arguments.
The Commodores! If Parliment is in so should the 'Dores who were more popular in the same era.
Seriously - I just checked the full list for Alvin Lee and/or Ten Years After. When I didn't find them, I just had to check for Stevie Ray Vaughan - never thinking for a moment that he wouldn't be on the list. Can't believe they haven't been inducted. I probably won't ever look at this Hall of Fame again.
I listened to the Moody Blues by the hour, and bought every one of their albums in the 1970's. I also, being a long-time Chicagoan, loved Chicago as well. In the 1970's I also revered Jethro Tull, then later Peter Frampton, Journey and Foreigner. In the 1980's I absolutely gorged on Toto, Duran Duran and Hall & Oates (H & O admittedly may be less "Rock", more fluff, but they sure sold tons of records). I'm so shocked to read this today and find that ALL of these artists have been shut out so far. It's obviously politics.
Lovin' jazz like I do, I'd like to see Herbie Hancock and George Benson considered as well. I won't hold my breath...
Little Feat and RUSH should top every list, every year the HOF contemplates inductees. These two bands have indisputably changed Rock n Roll as we know it. No two other bands have contributed as much to music and not been inducted as these Little Feat and RUSH.
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a perfect example of what is wrong with the Music Industry. Its more about recognition/sales then substance..Any band that would allow themselves into a "Hall of Fame" is lame...so that pretty much makes all "Rock and Roll"...lame
I am sure Brittany Spears will be in it down the road along with bands like No Doubt, Oasis, and Blink 182...I applaud bands that make music, play shows, and go unnoticed..
R&R is so cutting edge..Lets give ourselves awards like those doosh bags do in Hollywood every week...We are sooo Special!
Heart
Pat Benatar
Rush
The Steve Miller Band
the people who vote on this like jan werner are a joke. how can a band like Rush not be in something called the rock and roll hall of fame? how do rap acts who do not play any instraments or sing get to be in?sorry but but the turntable is not an instrament and talking fast is not singing. even if you don't like bands like RUSH and the others they leave out because they are popular you have to admit they deserve to be in before the likes of rappers and madonna. change the name to the music hall of fame and people like me would not care who you put in but do not call it the rock and roll hall of fame if you are not going to put rockers in.
The RRHOF is about as big a joke as the Academy Awards. Hurt Locker for best director and movie. ARE YOU KIDDING ME? Now for the RRHOF. You folks are morons. The Moody Blues have inspired countless fans to pursue musical careers. Their music is timeless. Look at the age differences of people who attend their concerts. When you do finally come to your senses and invite them into the hall, i hope they tell you to take a hike. I seriously doubt i will ever visit the HOF because i'll probably get nauseous over some of the hacks you've inducted.
Good day, you JOKES!
Biggest miss is Tom Waits but he's too cool for this lame HoF anyway.
I'll second what Eddie Trunk said. The man knows what he's talking about.
Not having KISS in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is like not having JFK acknowledged as a President of the United States.
Moody Blues, Chicago apparently have not been overlooked by blackballed.
Red Hot Chili Peppers??? You mean the band whose songs all sound exactly the same. Every time one of their songs comes on the radio I say, "Hey! It's that Red Hot Chili Peppers song that sounds like every other Red Hot Chili Peppers song!"
If it was called the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame, Bon Jovi would be in.
It's a disgrace that Chicago, and Heart aren't in. Foreigner and Journey are my personal favorites but perhaps don't have a varied fan base. Hard to imagine that Bon-Jovi isn't considered one of the greatest of all time, but I think he'll definitely get in. He's still in his prime and has time.
Gave the Hall a thought after Chuck Berry. But then realized there's not much out there after the big guy's (Stones. Beatles, Zep..etc) are in.. Not enough History built up...that's why the lightweights (Madonna, obscure vocal groups, can't even type the letters A%$A etc..) are in. They should shift to a fifty year look back and select those rock acts who stood the test of time. In it's current formation the Hall is just an extension of the useless Grammy's...
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Grand Funk Railroad
T-Rex is the biggest snub on that list. KISS is an overrated gimmick band whose music and lyrics would be nowhere without all of that lame makeup. tom waits and the cure should totally get in as well. why did the writer mention queensryche?
"Glittering prizes and endless compromises shatter the illusion of integrity"
Todd Rundgren. Frank Zappa. Yes-YES! Rush, Kiss....many bands deserve to be in, whether you like them or not. It's easy to see the innovators. Did Journey innovate? To a degree, but they were THE Pop/ Rock band from 75-85......
These critics like to be clever, sometimes to their detriment. Someone listed Tom Waits and Warren Zevon, both of whom deserve to be in, although they tend to be more of a critic's artist than a poular commercial act.
Imagine what the Academy Awards would be like if the critics were in complete control.
Speaking of 'Imagine".....Kiss, Sabbath, Alice Cooper, and a lot of these theatrical acts should get their due in spite of the fact that they weren't trying to feed Africa or cause a social revolution. These people innovated and changed what live rock entertainment is, period.
Kiss knows that they aren't saving the world, and they've never tried, but they raised the bar in terms of production values and what the consumer gets for their ticket price. Madonna, U2, all of these "big spectacle" artists know that these huge productions were pioneered by these people. Bowie, Kiss, and Cooper changed the possibilities.
Todd Rundgren- Geez...him not being inducted is a crime!
They need to get Depeche Mode in there right away!
Ever heard of RINGO STARR? Each Beatle has been individually inducted, Why not the "Beat" of The Beatles?
BTW...
Stevie Ray Vaughn deserves his own museum.
Slayer. Definitely Slayer.
And yet ABBA is in? That's just wrong!
Rush, Yes and Deep Purple. It's hard to believe they are not already in there.
I think one of the biggest ommissions has to be Eric Burdon and the Animals. Also what John Mayall and the Blues Breakers ? Pretty extensive list of HOF guitar players passed through his band at some point in the past 40 plus years.
T-Rex and the Coop both need to be in the HOF, but if KISS gets inducted, it should only be the original lineup including Ace Frehley, who unbeknownst to most was the real genius behind early KISS...
Tommy, i totally agree with you on Tom Waits and Warren Zevon. I assumed they were in and thought you were wrong. I checked the site and you are correct. I think those are clearly two of the biggest snubs
ELO's Out Of The Blue is a masterpiece that musicians of today could never attempt to duplicate. It is the best album of it time and it's generation. They picked up the Orchestra aspect that the Beatles started and contunued to make great music till the bands end. Jeff Lynne was a genuis in that respect.
Yes made music like no other band, I remember reading an interview with Phil Collins stating he would have loved to be the drummer for Yes.
All the bands on this listed will be inducted in due time, like a tree there is a branch for every off-shoot of music influnced by Rock. Let us not forget that Rock itself was born from the Blues and has been influnced by Country, Gospel, Jazz, and Folk.
REM was inducted a few years ago.
KISS is the biggest sell out band ever. Lets not even consider them.
I cant believe how many people on here have no idea who the Stooges are.... Ever heard of a guy named Iggy Pop????
How about a group that if I mention their songs you'll say yea, I know that song.. either because they play it on the radio all the time or because you heard it in a film, etc.
Happy Together
She's My Girl
It Ain't Me Babe..
Who is that band... ?
The Turtles
Ted Nugent for sure.
The original list also.
Where's Grand Funk Railroad?
It was Iggy Pop and the Stooges, they kind of were one of the founders for punk rock from the late 60s, so they certaintly did pave the way for bands with punk influences RHCP on this list to name one...
Rock -n- Roll Hall of Shame
The Cars
Been to the Hall of Shame. I now understand why it is a pyramid, as it is run by pointy-headed people that fit perfectly in the pyramid shape.
Who are the Stooges? People on here are actually asking that question? That is one induction that is seriously way overdue. It should not be about record sales but more about originality and influence. Iggy and the Stooges should have been in years ago. Journey? Are you kidding! I know that they have to induct a certain amount every year which inevitably
dilutes the whole thing a little more every year but if people like Peter Frampton and Journey get in I give up.
Little Feat
Gram Parsons
Jimmy Webb
Boz Scaggs
Alice Cooper
BTO
ELO
Steve Miller
Poco
JIMMY BUFFETT!!!!
Pretty sad all these people who don't know who the Stooges are. Wow.
Are the judges on this committe the same ones who voted for Jethro Tull over Metallica for "Best Hard Rock/Metal Performance" in the 1989 Grammies? I would bet "yes". The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has no real legitimacy in the real rock and roll world. As a matter of fact, it is probably better for the true Rock and Roll artists to not be included because the rock and roll hall of fame (lower case intentional) is considered a joke.
The E Street Band
Too many very worthy rock artists have been overlooked. (Where's Todd?) Too many British groups have snubbed, especially Yes, Moody Blues, Genesis (finally!), Jethro Tull, Deep Purple...the list goes on. Does anybody still remember The Move? (Predecessor to the Electric Light Orchestra, big influence on groups like Cheap Trick.) How about Dave Edmunds and Love Sculpture? Nick Lowe! (Pure Pop For Now People a.k.a Jesus of Cool)
"There are no facts, only opinion." This is a line from a movie that has stuck with me for 20 years because it applies to almost every situation. As long as subjective criteria is applied to this process, we will be having these debates. Music is not like sports, which can be asessed by many different statistical criteria. The idea that all modern music can be judged worthy or not worthy by some obtuse panel of people is utterly ridiculous. If an individual or group touches one person or affects one person's life in a positive way, then that individual or group is worthy of recognition.
After they inducted Madonna I stopped caring. Kiss had a couple of good songs but was more about costumes and pageantry. (see Madonna) Chicago, Yes, Journey, Steve Miller, ELO, Bad Company, Rush, Moody Blues, ELP, the entire list all HUGE omissions. But, after inducting Madonna, why not Haircut 100?
Who is misssed? That's an easy one, many fine groups are not inducted (ya gotta wonder what the heck the folks who run it are thinking.....) My vote, Three Dog Night. LOTS of great music, way under appreciated. Just look at the films that have used their music and you might realize that they have had significant cultural impact.
How about the fact that the museum is in Cleveland and the ceremonies are in New York?
The city put on a great show last year and many of the inductees enjoyed their time in Cleveland... its just too bad that unless you're NY or LA, you can't possibly have any entertainment value.
Linda Ronstadt. I think people forget, because she has subsequently explored so many different styles of music, that she was once one of the biggest female rock stars on the planet. She was a key player in the Southern California music scene in the '70s and played an important role, along with Gram Parsons and the Eagles, in the creation of the country-rock genre. She has also been cited as an important influence my many of the female singers that have followed her (Sheryl Crow and Trisha Yearwood being among the most notable). And, yes, Warren Zevon deserves to be inducted as well.
RUSH – 42 years into it. Same lineup since 1974. A bazillion albums sold. And if they announce a tour tomorrow, they'll sell out arenas everywhere. Ever see "Rush In Rio"? Freaking amazing...
The Cars should absolutely be in there.
Just perused the list at the RRHOF web site, and in fact CCR, Sabbath, Van Halen, and Metallica are right there.
ZEVON, ZEVON, ZEVON!
Dave Clark 5 is already in the Hall...someone commented earlier on why Dusty Springfield is in the Hall...she was, arguably, in the top 3 of British 60's Female Pop Vocalists (along with Petula Clark and Cilla Black). That being said, I believe that Petula Clark deserves a place in the Hall; she "owned" the mid-60's in America's top-40. Cilla Black...it's a hard one to call...I'm sure the European writers here are more familiar with her output, other than "You're My World" (an incredible song!)...
Y E S
To me Chicago, Heart and Journey are the ones that stick out the most on that list. But what's the point anyway? Keep it simple – make it based on total worldwide album/singles sales. That way instead of being someone's opinion, it's based on the fact of how many people enjoyed and bought their music. Just say when you reach "X" amount of album/singles sold, you're in.
DURAN DURAN!!!!!
They've been together 32 years and are still going strong. They were big in ushering in the video age and putting MTV on the map. They were the first band to film non-performance videos on location with 35mm film stock, one of the first to use the big video screens on their stadium tours, and use innovative video technology. (concert recordings in IMAX, 3D recordings, use of 360 degree panoramic "immersive video" cameras, and augmented reality technology, allowing three-dimensional computer-generated images on stage) Their song 'Electric Barbarella' was the first single ever sold online. Their video for 'Someone Else Not Me" was the first to be produced with Flash animation.They performed at Live Aid and Live 8. They are the first and only band to ever perform at the Louvre, first to ever perform on Broadway. They've sold 85 million in album sales, and are still pumping out albums with new and innovative producers. They have been ignored by the Hall of Fame board even with all those accomplishments and fan petitions for the last 7 years asking for their induction.
I don't understand the politics, but there's definitely something suspect in the choices the Hall of Fame makes.
Todd Rundgren!
Blue Oyster Cult.
Why are there so many Chicago haters? Terry Kath is legendary on the guitar – his solo alone on "25 or 6 to 4" is worth admission to the Rock Hall.
Ministry
As a musician myself, I'm always amused by the ignorant comments from the "Disco Sucks!" T-shirt wearing crowd who claim that someone in "their" particular LP collection deserves inclusion over someone else they don't like. Hank Williams #1 influenced huge numbers of Rock musicians. George Jones is one of Keith Richards favorite vocalists. (I'm making a point about "opposite ends" of the spectrum, not a country music pro-choice statement). Consider who influenced your personal favorites. It's not always someone you've got on your iPod.
You have 8 notes. Rearrange 'em any way you like.
No Deep Purple ... are you kidding me? The greatest riff of all time and no mention?
Stooges? So Larry, Curly and Moe made it in? They did have that fun alphabet song way back in the 1930's.
An amazing list of bands that have not got in.
so who do you have to sleep with to get into the HOF?
tOOl. In time. 'Nuff said.
The best part will be when they boycott the nomination.
Who are the Stooges? People on here are actually asking that question? That is one induction that is seriously way overdue. It should not be about record sales but more about originality and influence. Iggy and the Stooges should have been in years ago. Journey? Are you kidding! I know know that they have to induct a certain amount every year which inevitably
dilutes the whole thing a little more every year but if people like Peter Frampton and Journey get in I give up.
**Todd Rundgren**, Hall & Oats, Meatloaf, Badfinger, Cheap Trick,
All Wizards True Stars !!!
Oh, didn't see your favorite band inducted? Don't worry, eventually every Rock 'n Roll band will be inducted because they are all gone. It's no accident that every band to play the Super Bowl half-time show since Janet's "malfunction" are old classic rock acts – they were the only decent and lasting popular music of the past 40 years. Really, name me one good "rock" band that became popular in the past ten years – one that deserves to be in a hall of fame (e.g. can play their own instruments, write good songs that people over 19 will like, etc.)
Public Enemy, ABBA, Neil Diamond, Aretha Franklin, Grand Master Flash, Madonna, James Brown, Beastie Boys, RUN DMC, Blondie, Bee Gees, etc. All great artists or entertainers in their own right. BUT NONE OF THEM ARE ROCK. This is the ROCK hall of fame!!
Though they serve as the butt of my jokes, there is no mistaking the popularity and impact Hall and Oates has had over the years. I would argue that among all the snubbed groups listed, H&O have probably the most number of recognized and beloved songs. Sure, their sound may not be as musically sophisticated as some of the other groups mentioned, but popularity COUNTS. Let's not forget, it is people and the mainstream that listen to popular music. They, therefore, are the judges of musics' worth and value.
C'mon.
Little Feat! Hands down! No contest! Only the best (still) touring band. The musicians musicians!
Please pray for Drummer Richie Hayward who is battling liver cancer.
JETHRO TULL STILL DOING IT AFTER 40 YEARS TRUST ME, (MORE THAN LITTLE FEAT) AND I LOVE LITTLE FEAT. TULL HAS TO BE IN FIRST BEFORE ANY OTHER PROG. ROCK BAND INCLUDING YES AND RUSH BOTH OF WHICH ARE DESERVING BUT CAME AFTER TULL AND TULL INFLUENCED BOTH OF THEM. THEN IT HAS TO BE DIRE STRAITS/MARK KNOPFLER AFTER TULL, I MEAN SERIOUSLY THE GUY IS A GUITAR GOD AND DIRE STRAITS WERE HUGE WITH SO MUCH BRILLIANT MUSIC
One reason why I will never visit the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Museum. The inductees are based on inside popularity, not record sales or what the person or band has done for the industry.
Todd Rundgren
@Gay4Cash Bon Jovi had absolutely nothing to do with Glam Rock, the movement had died years before BJ had their first rehearsal. They were a prime exponent of "Metal Lite" or hair metal. They sold millions of records but were of no musical or cultural significance.
What about Los Lobos!?!?!?! Most consistent and reliable American rock band that we have.
I can't believe David Bowie isn't on the list ! He was very influential to RnR. And in soo many different facets of rock. And, he was very helpful in getting Iggy and many other groups started as well
I live near Cleveland and every year that goes by I am amazed that Peter Frampton has not been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
Do they not realize (or they must not care), that the "Frampton Comes Alive" album was the best selling, rock and roll live album of all time?
I also agree with the other posters that "Rush" has been overlooked for far too long.
ZZ Top
WARREN ZEVON
If Yes deserved to be inducted, then so do Emerson, Lake and Palmer, and Yes DO deserve to be inducted.
Yes, ELP and Jethro Tull have all sold a LOT of records, which means a LOT of people listened to them. Even if the sales don't mean a lot artistically, the EARS of the PEOPLE listening do.
Rush, Chicago, ELO, Alice Cooper, and the Moody Blue are giants in pop music and should be inducted before the Stooges and Jimmy Cliff (whomever that is). What the heck are their criteria for who gets in? All of the above groups were extremely creative, ground-breaking bands that churned out hit record after hit record. Must be some people on the induction committee with very narrow, arcane viewpoints on what consitutes great music.
Motley Crue...
those of you who don't know who the stooges are shouldn't even be leaving comments. and to the guy who suggested foreigner should be in the HOF...please.
Widespread Panic needs to be there but it wont happen, of course, since the people selecting don't know rock and roll anyway.
I forgot to mention New Order, one of the most influential bands of all time, cranking out melodic, cutting edge music for 30 years. They were trendsetters whose music is as vital and modern sounding today as it was the day it was released.
Where are the scorpions? or heart,or def leppard.
moody blues
neil diamond
journey
rush.
this turned into a joke when they let madonna in
The Monkees have deserved it for awhile. I read that Jann Wenner is blocking them.
Question: Is REO, ARS, or the VENTURES in there?
When it came to guitar, the Ventures were pretty darn good.
If Eric's not in, CLAPTON, then that's sad, ROCK, BLUES
Clapton's never been topped or ever will be.
why isn't it held in cleveland where the R&RHF is actually located?
Peter Frampton and the Moody Blues. Two of my favorites on the snub list. Incredible talents, longevity. I don't understand how they haven't been recognized yet.
Any instatution that calls itself a "Rock and Roll" fall of fame and inducts Madonna over Rush (or just about any of the aforementioned bands) is a farce and by definition does not deserver the title of "Rock and Roll" Hall of Fame.
"Commercialized Cookie Cutter Sell-Out" Hall of Fame, perhaps.
Not be inducted seems to be the real honor here.
Who are the Stooges? Are you KIDDING me?? Anyone who has asked who The Stooges are should be slapped repeatedly just on principle.
Are they better than Chicago....are you deranged?? Iggy Pop thrashes the hell out of them any day, all day. Go to amazon, buy the cd "The Stooges" and get a clue.
Wow, Deep Purple didn't even make the list of notable snubs!
Leon Russell, Ten Years After, Stevie Ray Vaughan
Jethro Tull, Yes, Deep Purple, ...
Here's a list of performers who need to be added. I'm not a fan of all of them but they deserve to be in for one reason or another:
Kiss
Boston
Bad Company
Rush
Alice Cooper
Chicago
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Depeche Mode
Foreigner
Journey
Jimmy Buffett
Yes
King Crimson
Deep Purple
Queensryche
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Grand Funk Railroad
Foghat
Steve Miller Band
Blue Cheer (Influencer category)
and
Carole King* – she's in as a writer and NOT as a performer. This should be rectified.
Finally, a lot of the artists in the so-called "performers" category are from the '40's and 50's. To fix this, I'd research when the label/phrase "Rock n' Roll" was coined (Alan Freed?) and use this as a line of demarcation if you will and put everyone PRIOR to that in the "Influencer" category.
That would clear a lot of stuff up in the hall,.....
That Carole King is not in the RRHOF as a performer is criminal. They should not induct another female performer into the Hall of Fame until Carole King gets her due and gets inducted.
ABBA? and not RUSH, THE CURE and all the others listed. Give me a break. I am losing respect for the committee in charge (Disco Hall of Fame)
Bad Co still rocks my world!!
I'm sorry but the Rock & Roll HOF is nothing but a complete JOKE! – Anything claiming to be a "HOF" and leaving out the likes of KISS, Journey, Rush, etc. doesn't deserve to be called a HOF!
How the hell a disco group like Abba go into this Hall of SHAME, yet bands like........KISS, RUSH, Alice Cooper, The Chile Peppers, ELO, Cheap Trick, Bad Company, Peter Framptom, Heart, T-Rex, Journey, and Foreigner.........have been passed over...I'm simply dumbfounded. This so-called "committee" who chooses who's in or out of this Rock & Roll Hall of Shame is about as in touch with true rock & roll music as Jethro Tull is to Heavy Metal during that rediculous Grammy moment.
This is what happens when you put something like the R&R HoF into the hands of corporate mongrels and populists.....Abba, in. RUSH, out. WTF???????????????????
Dare I say the legendary musician's musician, the GREAT Leon Russell, for song writing, performance, single handly caring a record company (Shelter), and as an historic sideman to the greats including Frank Sinatra, Goerge Harrison, many others
Heart! How could Heart not be in yet? 2 sisters rocking their butts off! They deserve it more than anyone else listed!
A lot of the groups are not even considered Rock N Roll artists. Chicago?
Come on...
The RRHOF is a joke.
A solution would be an alternative "Music Hall of Fame" located perhaps in Nashville where Sun Records started or before Sun, King Records located in Cincinnati.
When KISS finally... if EVER learn how to play their instruments... Then and only then should they be inducted... The ultimate poseures
I would love to know how the HOF Foundation defines "Rock & Roll". Because clearly they have an ever expanding definition it than most of us do. Every single one of these bands listed in the article are more than worthy of induction
And am I wrong, or has Boston not been inducted yet? They had the #1 selling album for years running!
In terms of influence, consistently putting out stunningly original music for 40 years, as well as an unwavering obsession with artistic purity, no artists are more deserving of being inducted into a Rock and Roll Hall of Fame than Jonathan Richman, Joe Jackson, Todd Rundgren, and Kraftwerk. A knowledge of the history of Rock and Roll is all that is necessary to understand that Iggy and the Stooges certainly are worthy of induction. Abba have written 10 or 12 really catchy singalongs, leveraged that brief bit of creativity to accumulate a giant fortune . . . and have done nothing for decades. Not to diminish their creativity, but inclusion into the HOF at all, much less before the others I have mentioned? I don't think so. I much as I love RollingStone magazine, Jann Wenner needs to lay off the catnip.
I am sixty-eight years old and even I know that ABBA and Neil Diamond never sang a Rock and Roll song in their lives. There is nothing wrong with them but elevator music should not be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
The Guess Who...!!!!!!!
Honestly the impact KISS has had on the rock and roll community for the past several decades should put them up for induction. They have morphed and blended themselves with the changes of each decade to remain a consistent band and to bring more people of varying ages int their fan base. A Kiss concert is the one place you will see teenagers sitting next to adults screaming at the same music. KISS will stand the test of time as they always have, lets honor them for this achievement.
The biggest problem most people seem to have is the title Rock and Roll. People don't like ABBA,Run DMC, Frankie Lymon (who Berry Gordy said was an influence on his Motown groups), Grand Master Flash so they say it isn't Rock and Roll so they shouldn't be in. The mistake they made was calling it the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. It should have been the music hall of fame. I mean The Supremes were not a Rock and Roll group when compared to a group like Kiss, so should they have not been inducted. Of course they should be in the HOF. Whether you like a group like Flash or Run DMC to say they have not had a major influence on music over the last 25 years is just ignorant. Just the same as the Stooges were a huge influence. Now whether you like that music is another issue.
But this is just like any other HOF, it leads to discussions of who should be in and why. There are a lot of great artists that should be in and probably will get there over time. And there are plenty I would never have put in.
This is THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME. NOT THE "ROCK" HALL OF FAME. "Rock" principally means mostly White Acts. "Rock and Roll" takes in the ENTIRE SPECTRUM of the Genre. R&B is a legitimate sub-division of Rock and Roll. In fact, it's one of it's progenitors.You would NEVER have had Rock and Roll in the FIRST PLACE without Rhythm and Blues. Consequently, YOU CAN'T REALISTICALLY HAVE A ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME and exclude R&B acts.
With that in mind...WHY AREN'T THESE ARTISTS IN THE RRHOF ? The MIRACLES, The DOMINOES, HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES, BARRY WHITE, LOU RAWLS, THE CHI-LITES, THE DRAMATICS, THE DELFONICS, THE STYLISTICS, THE MANHATTANS, The FAMOUS FLAMES, THE "5" ROYALES, THE MIDNIGHTERS,THE CADILLACS,MAJOR LANCE, BROOK BENTON, THE MARVELETTES, MARY WELLS, THE VALENTINOS, DEE DEE SHARP, DIONNE WARWICK, RUBY & THE ROMANTICS, JUNIOR WALKER & THE ALL-STARS, EDWIN STARR, THE MAIN INGREDIENT, THE FIFTH DIMENSION, THE FUNK BROTHERS, ETC ETC ETC.....
Tony, you are correct. Van Halen was snubbed for a very long time but by the time they actually were inducted only 2 members showed up for the ceremony. That being Sammy Hagar and Michael Anthony. Edward, Alex, Dave or Gary Cherone were present for the induction as Ed is incapable of getting along with anyone other than himself nowadays. Van Halen is now a sad excuse for a group that could have gone down in history as quite simply the biggest rock band in history and the display in Cleveland in 2007 was a true shame.
RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!
No band has the combined talent on stage that Alex Lifeson, Geddy Lee and Neil Peart have. These guys have been rocking together for
4 decades. Their music is socially and environmentally thought provoking and if you want solid Rock and Roll..." Working Man " is one of the best there is and " Closer to the Heart " should be the anthem of the world! Can you tell I'm a fan?lol
For those who don't like Rush ...have you actually watched them?
You should...they are amazingly talented.
Its pretty clear there is no Rock and Roll Purity test, and thus groups that have a lot of hits and dedicated fans should get in. If you do not have to be R & R If Jimmy Buffet doesn't get in (he has several rock songs), then they should close the hall.
Madonna and company should have gotten in, this isn't a music purity tests, its about having an impact on the industry, and thus Madonna is in for her major, major impact.
The Hall of Fame is garbage. When has any Heavy Metal band ever gotten a nod? Black Sabbath is the only metal band to make the cut, to my knowledge. Even a band like Metallica, which has one of the best selling records of all time, cannot make the cut. The Godfathers of Metal, such as Judas Priest and Iron Maiden, were and continue to be highly influential bands in Hard Rock/Heavy Metal. These snubs almost seem to be a snub against the entire genre.
The HOF is stupid...pretty soon we'll all be in it. It took the HOF voters until last year to vote for the Dave Clark Five but they let no-talents in like Madonna. Cannot believe the Moody Blues aren't in either. The HOF lost it's credibility about 10 years ago....
How about Neil Diamond
ELP, Yes, Moody Blues, Peter Gabriel (solo),
I'm sorry – I swear I don't usually pull that "you haven't heard of so and so?!" routine – but seriously, if you haven't heard of the Stooges you really have no business commenting on who should and should not be in the Rock N' Roll Hall of Fame. I'm not saying everyone has to be a rock n' roll expert or anything, but you wouldn't expect to be taken seriously in a baseball HOF discussion if you've never heard of Gary Carter, right? This is no different.
T-Rex really should be in there.... They're a classic act that still gets play today.
en donde esta selena. she muy good for hof.
Dave Clark 5 up there with Paul Revere, and of coarse Moody Blues,
class acts, Boston, one of a Kind.
It's not called bitching. It's called Rock and Roll venting.
Kiss has tonnes of great songs. People saying there are a marketing band/stage act need to go back and look at their catalogue. They wouldn't be able to put on the world's greatest stage show to sell-out crowds if they didn't have some good tunes. Stevie Van Zant went to the reunion show and said "I didn't realize they had so many good songs, just one good song after another."
That Heart and Rush have not been inducted as yet is beyond ridiculous.
What about Pat Benatar? She rocks!
Just check the list of influences for most of today's music icons. they would all easily list RUSH, Alice Cooper, YES and King Crimson among their influences.
Others like Depeche Mode, Bon Jovi, Cheap Trick, and Red Hot Chili Peppers deserve nods as well. Each had their place in shaping music for the current generation of musicians.
Joan Jett ! What about Joan?
pretty much all of them
what/who decides whether someone makes it or doesn't?
how about Midnight Oil?
Can any one tell me why Stevie Ray Vaughan is not in the HOF, but Micheal Jackson, the "King of Pop" is? I thought is was about Rock and Roll, not Pop!
Ringo. Yes – hard ot believe but Ringo has yet to be inducted.
Black Flag, Joy Division / New Order, Delta 5, The Germs, Pulp.
Thankiez!
I'm simply amazed that this many people think that the RRHoF is anything other than an Ohio tourist trap.
Duran Duran
INXS
Pat Benatar
Stevie Nicks (as a solo act, Fleetwood Mac already in)
TED NUGENT!
TOM JONES is still rockin crowds all over the world.
KISS!!!
How about the Replacements!!! And yes, Husker Du... But then again you didn't hear their stuff on too many radio stations either did you!!
Pete Cetera was once quoted that he only reads Rolling Stone on the can. Rolling Stone was offended and Chicago, despite still performing after over 40 years and selling over a hundred million records, will never be inducted. The R&R HOF is a joke.
Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick, Rush should all be in there. This is just Rolling Stone’s personal masturbation party and has nothing to do with record sales, impact on the industry, popularity, or longevity.
RUSH= One of the best song writers in rock history. One of the best bassists in rock history. One of the best drummers in rock history. And Madonna and Public Enemey gets in before they do (NOT ROCK!)? What a joke! The Hall needs new people running it.
Earth Wind & Fire – in addition to some of the artists on that original list.
RHCP, Bon Jovi, Public Enemy, all too close to their recent eligibility. They need to get some of the longer established groups in first.
I think Stephen Colbert summed it up best while interviewing Rush on the Colbert Report:
"You have yet to be inducted in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Is there any chance your next album will be called "That's Bullsh*t!"?
I didn't see Boz Scaggs listed anywhere. He should already be in the hall of fame, consdiering who has has played with.
Rush is the biggest snub. It's inconceivable that Madonna, a pop star who can't sing, is in, but Rush isn't.
RUSH by far is the biggest omission. Incredible musicians and performers. They have stood the test of time. They have been playing together for more than 30+ years–more than I can say for any other bands who couldn't keep it together because they couldn't get along or a member of the band overdosed. They are down to earth guys, incredible sense of humor, some of the most talented in their trade. Neil Peart plays the drums like he has 6 arms and his poetic lyrics for vitually every single RUSH album ever put out makes him all the more talented. How many Rock n Roll drummers also produced the lyrics for all of the bands songs? NOBODY. Geddy Lee is one of the most talented bassists ever (since the freaking bass guitar was invented). Alex Lifeson is right up there with many of the classic electric guitarists of his time. Every year that RUSH doesn't get inducted into the RnR Hall of Fame is a reflection of Hall itself. The day that RUSH gets inducted is the day that I will finally visit the Hall of Fame. RUSH deserves its due. Make it so.
Captain Beefheart, genius of rock's subculture, is not in the hall of fame and ABBA is. What a joke. Why is it that nearly every rock critic reviews the genre as pure entertainment, while jazz and classical scholars consider the best works in their field fine art? There are definitely some rock albums that are modern masterpieces, but you would not necessarily want to listen to them for pleasure, kind of like a great painting that would look ugly in your living room.
I agree with Roger.........TULL!!!!
Man, some really surprising snubs on this list, particularly with ABBA making it in. Chicago, T Rex, Moody Blues, ELO, etc, all deserve to be in. Whattaya gonna do?
DEVO! There is an online movement to get them inducted... The Pioneers Who Got Scalped!
Bob Dog, Warren Zevon also wrote Carmelita; Poor, Poor, Pitiful Me; Excitable Boy, and others...actually, many of you here are focusing on hit songs (or, hit singles) for these artists; in their era of popularity, the record album should be the basis of their popularity – hence, my list above. Oh yeah, how could I forgot my top 3 group – Jethro Tull!!
With the Induction of ABBA, I have lost all respect for the R & R Hall of Fame. What a farce.
Looks like a big majority of you folks are in agreement on what good R&R music is (T. Basil-HA!), so just crank it up and forget about the circle-J voting committee! If the tunes are good, I could care less if the band is inducted. It won't make me listen any more or less. In the spirit of rock-n-roll, yes? I gotta go watch some Nina Hagen vids. Now!
It's pretty much like the Hollywood walk of fame...... if you want a star, all you have to do is buy it. Same thing in the R&R hall.... you can buy your way in.
The Moody Blues!
Abba over Kiss for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. That would be funny if it wasn't so absurd.
Two Non-performers not in: South Florida's own Producer from Criterion Studios, Mr. Tom Dowd (RIP); also TVs Mr. Ed Sullivan (RIP). Tom produced all of Atlantic Records hits including Otis Readding, Aretha Franklin, Eric Clapton, The Alman Brothers, some Rolling Stones, and many others. Ed Sullivan brought Rock into our living rooms on Sunday nights. With out Ed the British Invasion would have withered on the shore.
I also think that The Beach Boys Mr. Brian Wilson should be in as a innovator, writer and producer much in the same way as Phil Ramone. Oh year, I looked up the Stooges (Iggy Pop), I wasn't much of a punker. Did like the Clash, The Pretenders (soft punk), The Kinks (leaning toward punk).
Moody Blues, Johnny Rivers.
How about Emerson, Lake & Palmer???
Umm, what about DEF LEPPARD???
They are STILL making music – still touring – and sounds just as fantastic now as they did in the beginning!
I agree with the comment that Kiss was/is just a marketing ploy and deserves its omission. I also think Rush deserves their ommission too. Sure, everything Rush played was musically complex and difficult and required extensive technical skills, but it is souless and panders more to teenage boys and wannabe musicians. Rock and Roll comes from theheart. neither of these two bands have that.
If ABBA gets in and Foreigner doesn't that surely blows away the Rock and Roll requirement. Does ABBA have a rock song, Foreigner has several good rock albums, and then they reinvented themselves and made it back to charts, should be a Slam Dunk along with KISS and Cheap Trick.
Jimmy Buffet is a major legend, he should get in if ABBA does, and when are the Grammies going to give him a life time achievement award?
Rush, by far.
RUSH! But there are many on that list who should be in. It's rather silly that there are groups that many of us have never heard of in the H or F but such well known groups with HUGE bodies of work are just ignored. Seems that they made the mistake of being well known in the 80’s, yes most started before that and are still going but they are 80’s bands none the less.
Who dies and left these bozos in charge?
Who says this is the "official" hall of fame?
Just because some people got together in Cleveland and decided to build this thing does not make them gods.. or judges thereof.
And their voting history certainly proves that they do not know of which they speak... so let's just call this an "unofficial" hall of fame... like your average wax museum... and leave it at that.
How about Blue Cheer from the '60s? They were the loudest rock band ever recorded!
And a later band would be The TrashCan Sinatras!
Agree that anyone would question the Stooges inclusion really doesn't know their influence on rock, particularly punk. at least give "The Stooges" and "Raw Power" a listen.
I never see anyone include The Jam, and I think it is because they basically refused to play the USA.
In the same vein I would include the Undertones and Stiff Little Fingers from Ireland.
Cheap Trick has to be considered seriously based not only on their output but as well their direct influence on so many bands (The Replacements, Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, etc...)
I see all these folks arguing about who SHOULDN'T be in...
The RnR HOF should really be "Music HoF" with different wings. This way those who don't appreciate groups like Chicago won't feel prone to insult an influential group, "just cause I don't like 'em."
That being said, aside from Kiss and Chicago, Public Enemy is the biggest "miss" on the list. PE was instrumental in a massive fundamental change in the way rap/hiphop has been branded. I'm not a big fan of guys like Tupac and Biggie or 50Cent and Diddy, but PE was a major influence to these guys. PE's influence and scope cannot be denied.
Again, just 'cause YOU don't like a particular band/genre doesn't mean it is without merit.
How about Mahogony Rush? They were great in the 70s. Not too many people have heard of them, but they were a great rock band.
What about Meatloaf? He deserves a spot in the Hall of Fame!
Jimmy Buffett needs to be there
How about some of these names that have been eligible forever (eligible starting in 1980 and moving forward):
Sammy Davis Jr, Patsy Cline, Herbie Hancock, John Coltrane, Paul Anka, Conway Twitty, Aaron Neville, Willie Nelson, Sonny and Cher, MC5, Jethro Tull, Syd Barret, Tower of Power, Meatloaf, Styx, Scorpions, New York Dolls, Tina Turner, BTO, Bad Company, Kansas, Ted Nugent, The Damned, Iggy Pop, Sammy Hagar, Black Flag, Los Lobos, Rick James, Def Leppard, Iron Maiden, Sugarhill Gang, Ozzy, Sting, Slayer, Stevie Ray Vaughn, Pantera
Seems like if you are punk or metal or countryish despite your massive influences, you are not considered.
It is a B.S. event- if they even wanted to consider themselves legitimate they should publish the list of eligibles and let the fans vote online and automatically induct the top 3 fan picks each year.
I'm a big fan of both Depeche Mode and The Cure... but I can still put that aside and say they should both be in the Hall of Fame.
Both bands are still together after releasing their first albums in 1981 and 1979, respectively; and although both have never been considered "mainstream" bands, Depeche Mode has sold 100 million records (60 million albums / 40 million singles as of 2006) worldwide and The Cure 27 million as of 2004. I also know Depeche Mode has been nominated multiple times for Grammy Awards and both bands have cited as influences by everyone from Trent Reznor to Smashing Pumpkins.
These are two bands that have carved out impressive success while still being integral parts of the alternative movement of the early 80's.
Put them in!!!
WHO does the voting?? the academy awards are voted on by people in the industry, the selections do indeed seem odd and non sensical, it seems to me this is more of a disney thing, a destination and the yearly announcement is just free advertisement for a vacation destination thing, if this where truly a ROCK hall of fame, then there are many of the listed and mentioned bands that would be in and no way ABBA and some other would, if it is a POP music hall of fame that INCLUDES rock OK then I get madonna who started the whole hot chick dancer 1/2 assed singer with a good producer thing that just doesn't seem to ever want to stop(induct david foster not madonna....), I pay no attention to it, I'll bet most folks don't, the rrhof seems much like most pop music over hyped commercial BS albeit with the occasional gem, oh and the stooges MUSIC sucked, no matter how cool the swagger is and THAT is what influenced people that attitude
I've never understood why Deep Purple, Emerson Lake and Palmer and Jethro Tull has not been considered. Is Yes in? It took forever for Black Sabbath to get in and the above groups are influential as well. I could never believe that people like "dusty Springfield" and other one hit wonders get in.
Yes, Rush, Alice Cooper, Dire Straits all are deserving. More than ABBA. They weren't even rock. Someone should start the Pop HOF for fluff acts like ABBA. What's next? Debbie Boone? Cyndi Lauper?
The great legend LINDA RONSTADT!!!!!
Dobbie Brothers
Heart
ELO / Jeff Lynne
Three Dog Night
Grassroots
Foreigner
Pablo Cruise
Grand Funk Railroad
Styx
BTO
Chicago (didn't like them but still)
Wolfman Jack (anyone remember XROCK-80)
Journey never made it? What the crap? Greatest band of all time.
Delaney Bramlett!
I love to see all the support for Yes ! But I gave up hope long ago, that the RRHOF would take off their blinders. It is getting to the point now, that all our great "ground breaking" ROCK bands will never be inducted.
As a member of Yes, or Rush, ELP, Moodies, Tull... How would you feel to be selected for induction AFTER ABBA and all the other low talent, flash in the pan, pop/rap/crap that are in there already ? Talk about insult ! I think these great bands will far outlive the RRHOF, in our hearts and minds and our music collections. I have followed Yes since 1969 and all three of my children have had the chance to see them play live.
Off the list presented for this year? I would certainly vote for Genesis and the Hollies. But that's all. I always though "Halls of Fame" were to recognize lifetimes of achivement and contribution...
@ Scott, I agree, RUSH needs to added, they are long overdue.
Has Faith No More been inducted or even considered.
Slayer as well...
Cheap Trick has 17 studio albums...and they are the only person to successfully rank in the top 3 with an Presley cover. They have nearly 2 dozen songs that have made it within the Billboard Top 50.
Hands down.........The Moody Blues. Day's was one of the first concept LP's to be played front and back, way before Dark Side of the Moon not to mention having a full orchestra blending in.......Justin, Graeme, Mike, John, Ray.........each with worthy solo careers as well. To have reunited after 5 yrs off and put out a #1 lp (Long Distance Voyager) and still touring! Again, HANDS DOWN!! VOTE MOODY'S!!
Motorhead! Lemmy IS rock & roll.
Toto and Yes are glaring omissions IMHO.
I'd have to say Alice Cooper. I could be wrong but i think he started the earliest of anybody listed, plus he brought the world shock rock. we could use a reminder of how dangerous rock n roll used to be. more so considering the most shocking thing in music these days is Lady Gaga.
Although T-Rex not being in blows my mind too.
Kiss has never been on the cover of Rolling Stone, either. It's called the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME, isn't it? Kiss is Rock 'N Roll.
Kiss Destroyer is a classic. Kiss ALIVE! started all bands doing live albums (Frampton Comes Alive, Cheap Trick At Budokan, etc.).
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a joke without Kiss in there.
Judas Priest
Motorhead
Iron Maiden- All helped define a musical style that is still wildly popular worldwide. All are still going strong.
The American music is an f-ing joke.
I could accept the Monkees. KISS, RUSH and Chicago still sell out shows. Do not care whether you like them, they belong in the Hall. KISS is a stage act. They even agree to that. However, they have had a large number of album sales, many current R'n'R musicians site them as an influence, so get over it.
What about Dada?
Surprised not to see this one mentioned, but I'd have to say Sonic Youth is the most glaring omission. The Seattle/Grunge/Alternative scene of the 90's would not have happened without the influence of Sonic Youth. Even the Library of Congress has honored them by preserving their groundbreaking album Daydream Nation for eternity (or at least until Rome burns).
In regards to the others, I'd agree with Kiss, Rush, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and the Cure. I'd disagree with Depeche Mode, Bon Jovi, Journey and Foreigner. And to the person who thinks XTC should be in, "Skylarking" is one of my top 5 albums, but the band itself does not deserve entry.
P.S. The Stooges Rock!!!!
My first record was Wind and Wuthering by Genesis, but I still think Yes should go in before them as far as ProgRock goes. And then King Crimson. I just pray 1) Peter Gabriel goes in with them, and 2) they play I Know What I Like or something from Lamb Lies Down instead of Abacab or Momma. God, those last two are horrible ...
The R and R HOF is an irrelevant joke. Who cares who's in or out anyway? When a reputable band has made a lot of money and has influenced millions, who really cares about any hall of fame?
What about Neil Diamond!!!!!!!
Ten Years After, 10cc, Warren Zevon, Moody Blues, Chicago, Humble Pie, Linda Ronstadt...
re: Pete March 15th, 2010 12:23 pm ET
"if Journey and Foreigner didn't exist, rock music wouldn't have noticed. I know they sold a lot, but it makes no difference."
Sorry Pete, but both of these bands paved the way for Rock ballads of the 80's. I wasnt a huge fan of either, but their style of music was generational leading into the 80's.
Personally, the RRHF is a farce. I went there several years ago. It was cool, but its supposed to be about ROCK. Not the case. Maybe if it were just called the Music Hall of fame. Then go ahead and include Pop, Rap, and hey, through a little Country in there. Maybe Hard Rock Cafe should invest some money and create a museum of all the bands not in the RRHF. Would be more interesting.
Who needs a museum of superstars, anyway? Let's honor some of the real, unsung heroes.
How about The Sonics or The Monks - true inventors of Punk?
Warren Zevon? Don't you need more than one song ("Werewolves") to get in?
Red Hot Chilli Peppers – Don't you need more than one word ("Californication," admittedly, one of the best words I've ever heard) to get in?
Abba? – Don't you need an actual rock and roll song (vs. all pop) to get in?
Thin Lizzy? – Don't you need more than one song ("The Boys are Back in Town") to get in?
Rush? – Don't you need more than zero hit songs (vs. tons and tons of mediocre stuff?) to get in?
Admittedly, the Hall has a very difficult job. But until the admit "The Moody Blues," they will continue to make themselves look like....Stooges.
There is no justification for Abba (and I do like them) and Madonna to be in a HoF that doesn't include the following: Kiss, Rush, Def Leppard, Pat Benatar, Yes, Cheap Trick, Moody Blues, Alice Cooper, or the Doobie Brothers!!!! If Rolling Stone magazine wasn't such a bunch of elitist d-bags these guys would all already be in!
*gay4pay* bon jovi didn't pave the way for glam rock. you must not be getting many customers, cause thats something you could have easily picked up along the way.
No 1# RUSH !!!
and
ELP
King Crimson
And the really first Glam band from the UK – SLADE
I can't believe people are asking who the Stooges are. Ever hear of Iggy Pop? Well, that his old band, one of the founders of punk. Consider that "I Wanna Be Your Dog" was released in the late 1960s! As far as I'm concerned, the Stooges mark the transition from garage to punk. Those guys are every bit as influential as Sex Pistols or Ramones. They definitely deserve HOF status.
Where is Yes on that list?
RUSH is an incredible band that's been making high quality music since 1974. Their music is so far above and beyond what almost anyone else does it's not even funny, and yet they get a fraction of the respect that far more inferior bands receive.
The RRHOF has no legitimacy while Rush are omitted.
The Monkees. While they were a 'manufactured band' they did employ many of Rock & Pops most respected musicians and writers, and were a direct influence on what beceme a video standard on MTV, Much Music, ect.
Here are the best ever: RHCPeppers, Rush, Yes, Deep Purple, Jethro Tull, Frampton- one of the best selling albums of all time, former Humble Pie member, and a super under rated guitarist!
The above compose and play real rock and roll. Stooges?gimeee a break!
THE DOOBIE BROTHERS! THE DOOBIE BROTHERS! THE DOOBIE BROTHERS!
Oh, and RUSH is a must – no other band like them in the universe.
Is Steely Dan in?
If the RnRHOF were all about the music, these three would be no-brainers. Unfortunately, it's about politics, which is how lamos like Buffalo Springfield make it in.
Whitney, Rock and Roll?
Neil Diamond, yes, wrote most of his music , great voice and
gives a great performance, saw him in 68 at the old Maryland
Cole Field House, Maryland U.
They should change the name to Jann Werner's Hall of Fame. Seriously, the criteria has nothing to do with musicianship, sales, influence, or any other arguable criteria. It's apparently, "Does Jann have this artist on his iPod? Heck, he's now letting in bands that aren't even rock and roll, but leaving others that he apparently dislikes out.
Until Kiss, Yes, Rush, and Alice Cooper get in I will consider it a joke.
NEIL DIAMOND. If there ever was one who made history outside of the mainstream, it's NEIL. HARRY CHAPIN & THE EVERLY BROTHERS are most deserving as well. The caliber of these three transcend the garbage that passes for artistry these days.
It looks like a lot of 70's arena rock bands are overlooked while most of their 60's counterparts have made it in.
The most controversial band would probably be The Monkees. Some people would like to see them in because of their contributions to what would later become the short three minute video format.
Others would not like to see it because two of them were actors and they did not write all of their own songs.
The bottom line is that they were the first exposure to rock and pop for many musicians and music fans that were young in the 60s and 70s.
The Hall is a joke. The list of those not inducted looks better than the list of those that are inducted. What do these clowns know about Rock n Roll? A total joke.
These conversations are always so funny. The Stooges, for some of you, is a band fronted by Iggy Pop. You know him...he's the one that sings that cool song, Lust for Life, that you now sing along to everytime you hear it because you've heard it in a zillion commercials.
Stooges? Which one?? Moe. Larry, or Curly??? ABBA??? That ain't rock. Try Rush and Alice Cooper. In my opinion, the RRHOF is a hall if sh**!
Everyone on here is stupid. Shut up.
All you idiots who don't know who Iggy Pop and Stooges are and what their influence on the Post Punk, Alternative Music scene was, you are precisely why you are not fit to judge the music HOF. Sure the other bands listed are worthy, but don't bash a band and their worthiness because you, in your narrow scope of music history knowledge, don't know who they are...
Los Lobos- they weren't just popular, they broke new ground
I scanned this list of comments. I didn't see one person who mentioned JOHNNY WINTER. He played circles around everyone now in the HOF. His absense in the HOF is an abomination. In 1972 I bought a Stooges record. Listened once and made a frisbee out of it and flew it over the Drill Field at Va. Tech. It was the only thing it was good for. They get in before him????? What a crock!
It not only surprises me that this person is not in the R&RHofF, but that his name has not been on any list of missing persons. How can anyone discuss the history of Rock through the 60's and 70's right down to the present time without including Neil Diamond. While there are many that do not like his music, there are more than enough loyal fans and musical influence to include him. With his 70th birthday coming up next January, what a great birthday present.
I nominate Bleeding Gums Murphy
Red Hot Chili Peppers are terrible. All the other bands listed deserve it far more than RHCP. Popularity shouldn't really matter, because popularity doesn't indicate quality of the music or their role in influencing other bands.
Depeche Mode, The Cure...these names don't belong on the same list with the others...who are they anyway, never heard of them until now.
hahaha....seriously...the b52s??? neil diamond??? its people like you that have made the hall so bad and putting people like abba in.
and this is hilarious... March 15th, 2010 1:02 pm ET
what about GREEN DAY
dont THEY deserve it? through all their hard work?
takes 25 years kid......and theyll get in for dookie alone
I bet if you asked ABBA what type of music they should be classified as, I will bet that "rock & roll" will not be in their description.
I am sure the HOF started with good intentions but has since been taken over by people who enjoy elevator muzac. The HOF doesn't listen to public opinion and probably never will. The rock and rollers out there already know the HOF is a farce and not to be taken seriously.
PLUS – To quote a great man.
"everybody knows that rock reached perfection in 1985"
These real rockers should also be included:
The Partridge Family
The Brady Bunch
Roy Rogers and Dale Evans
and in the future:
The Wiggles
But seriously folks, where is Wierd Al....a true trail blazer if there ever was one
Todd Rundgren is one of the bigger omissions. This guy's been a consistent major player in the music industry for over 40 years. He's been a pioneer in recording and production techniques, singer/songwriting, and video production. I doubt he'll ever get in due to his refusal to conform to the commercialism of the music industry, but he's as deserving as anybody that's already in.
Biggest miss? Journey no doubt.
I didnt read all 477 of these so I don't know if Jethro Tull was mentioned but they should damn well be in the hall. Are you kidding me? Brenda Lee and Madonna but not Tull?
Also, the only country rock band in there is the Eagles, so maybe there should be some other influential country rockers like Poco or Gram Parsons. That was an important genre that had an impact on today's country music.
All of you pompous posters putting down KISS are just like the arrogant jerks at Rolling Stone. KISS has songs, lots of great songs. Check out KISS Unplugged. They paved the way for countless bands – AC/DC opened for KISS, so did Cheap Trick, Rush, Bon Jovi, Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motley Crue, the list is endless. Gene Simmons discovered Van Halen and yet Van Halen is in before KISS.
Rush and Yes. 2 bands that transformed music. They're better than the HOF.
How about the Scorpions? and in the words of Eddie Trunk, until KISS is inducted it is the rnr hall of SHAME!!
I understand it's the "Rock & Roll" Hall of Fame, but considering the Social, Political and Racial landscape in the late 80's and early 90's and how, through their music, Public Enemy educated the masses on relevant issues, I'm amazed they haven't made it in. I was a 16 year old white kid from a small town in Idaho and the hook of P.E.'s music service as almost my only window into a world that wasn't seen, experienced or taught in my community. It profoundly shaped my view of our world.
Besides, there's no one in that era that could lyrically touch Chuck D or challenge the musical virtuosity of Flav . . . and who didn't love the clocks?
Public enemy brought political rap to the mainstream when I was a kid. Heart was the first mainstream girl rock band. Red Hot Chili Peppers rock. The Cure practically invented EMO.
Not including Chicago and Journey is beyond unconcionable.
Also, there was a rock band in the sixties called "The Association" that should be included. Other than Brian Wilson's 2001 group, I have never seen a finer use of the human voice by a rock band in person than The Assocation....1968-70 era concerts. They had a number one record of the year ("Cherish") and numerous hits such as "Windy", "Never My Love", "Along Comes Mary" and the theme from the film "Goodbye Columbus". They were unique and should be included with the other fine groups in the Hall of Fame.
Except for T-Rex and Public Enemy, I'd vote for every single other band listed in this article. Particularly huge omissions are Rush, Heart, Journey, Foreigner, Bon Jovi, KISS, Chicago and Hall & Oates. The others I still believe should be in, but it could possibly be argued that they were not long-lasting enough (Cheap Trick, ELO, etc.). HOW THE HELL DO YOU PUT ABBA, JIMMY CLIFF AND THE STOOGES IN THE H.O.F. AND LEAVE OUT RUSH AND HEART???
What about Ohio's own Ohio Players? These funk rock pioneers were such an influential band to so many funk as well as rock bands today (just ask the Chili Peppers, Soundgarden) with their offbeat grooves...OWWW!
Rush...Styx...YES...Peppers...Heart..Cheap Trick and Journey all deserve to be inducted...it is the ROCK and ROLL Hall of fame right? Not the pop hall of fame...I just don't get it! The HOF has been diluded with acts that can really not be called Rock bands ( or individuals) They need to put the blinders on and stick with the rock & roll!! c'mon voters, get it right!
Journey invented the power ballad. It is a travesty that they are STILL not included on the list! I think it takes credibility away from the Hall of Fame when they continuously pass over such bands as Journey and KISS (without KISS there would be no glam rock, for crying out loud!).
How about Nick Lowe? He not only makes the cut as a performer (Rockpile & solo), but as a producer (Elvis Costello & the Damned, among others), and as a songwriter (What's So Funny 'Bout Peace, Love & Understanding?).
The Jam
Why are there always people who bitch?
The issue here isn't who, but how. The power should be taken away from industry wonks like Jann Wenner (who coincidentally thinks HE owns the music industry and is thus smarter than everybody else) and put it in the hands of the people.
Let the people nominate who should go into the hall each September. Let the people vote from among the top 30, 40 or 50 vote getters in November. Tell everybody who won in January, then actually induct them in March.
It's the only way that the R&R HOF will ever be authentic and credible.
Tom Waits
DEF LEPPARD
MY GOD how can you not include them in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame for crying out loud.
They were the biggest hard rock band of the 80's they sold 2 consecutive albums that were so pivotal in the hard rock scene. Pyromania and Hysteria. Sheesh, talk about judges who hate a band that inspired and influenced so many bands today.
FRANK ZAPPA. No one else in rock history has released as many recordings as Frank did, while his estate continues to discover and release new works eighteen years after his death.
And no one else is or was a better guitar player.
What criteria does the RRHOF use for selection? There is alot of bands on the eligable list that most would consider shoe ins??
Do you have to kiss _ss to get in? Alot of these bands / artists are still touring after 20+ years, that says something!!
How about Duran Duran?? EST 1979...
"yeah, the hof process is about as ridiculous as rolling stone magazines 100 greatest guitarist of "all time" . kurt cobain at #12. yeah, that cobain was definitely better than carlos santana, and buddy guy, and tom morrelo, not to mention bo didley and eddie hazel."
You forgot to mention that Jack White was #17. All I could say was wow.
Hands down, Rush is the biggest snub on the list! They've influenced so many bands and continue to churn out great music and tour to this day.
Other than that, whether you like them or not, KISS have to be in there. Without a doubt they made their mark in rock and roll history and will long be remembered.
RHCP...absolutely. One of the greatest bands EVER.
I think the greatest snub of all is the Monkees. Say what you will about them, but at their peak, they out sold the Beatles and the Rolling Stones combined, had twelve Top 40 hits (including three #1 singles), and were able to influence the younger members of the generation through means that no other group was fully utilizing (at least on a weekly basis) – television.
Were they prefabricated? Yes, of course they were, but what band's image isn't prefabricated today? And they wrote some great songs, aside from the masterpieces that Boyce & Hart and Goffin & King wrote for them. Nesmith's "Listen to the Band", Tork's "For Pete's Sake", and Dolenz's "Randy Scouse Git" are all fantastic songs that can stand along side any of their hit singles (and for that matter, "Randy Scouse Git" was a #2 hit in England, and "Listen to the Band" was a minor hit in the U.S.).
What about Boston? Without them, who knows who would have come out. Plus KISS started an entire genre of music. Sure most of their music was bad, but they were revolutionary
YES – What about The Steve Miller Band !!!
Steve's been rocking for years, still kicks ass I saw him last year. Lots of great music, great attitide, what a shame.
I think the "ROCK AND ROLL" Hall of Fame lost all credibility by admitting Run DMC, Madonna, and Grand Master Flash. Last time I checked none of those are ROCK!!! It's not the "POP MUSIC" hall of fame.
Foreigner and Journey are up there with Genesis, Stones and
Zeplin only there lead singers can actually sing.
Totally agree with Yes and the Moody Blues, as well as King Crimson, Roxy Music and Badfinger...
How about Sonic Youth? I believe their first album was in 1983.
I have to say it's ridiculous Rush isn't in either, they're far more mainstream but still offbeat and still have infused themselves into pop culture and influence.
Someone said the Pixies which I agree with but they still have a couple more years to fall under the 25 year rule. They will be the biggest under the radar induction that easily gets in due to strength of albums and influence on other bands.
If Public Enemy, why not NWA, Grandmaster Flash or Lisa Lisa and the Cult Jam for that matter. Is this the ROCK and ROLL Hall of Fame of the Hip Hop Hall of Fame?
Joan Jett.
Buckethead
Tom Waits, John Hiatt, Leon Redbone all deserving. Forget about Kiss. What a joke with alot of bad pop.
The Misfits, Dead Kennedy's. Are The Clash and Ramones on the list? If not, them, too.
Inexcusable that Yes had not been admitted. Jimmy Cliff but not Yes. Unreal.
The fact that the Moody Blues isn't in there yet makes me ill. They changed what Rock and Roll could be.
Music is about perspective and personal taste. I think it's kind of pointless to even have a rock HOF. This isn't like football, where players have indisputable stats, and you can't really base it on popularity because the public has consistently been guilty of loving bad music because the media tells them to.
I would like seeing Rush, Heart, Journey, and Peter Frampton get in, but that's just me. Is the musical taste of this HOF judging panel better than yours or mine, or just different?
Public Enemy, are you kidding me. (really!)
No self respecting band should ever want a seat in that god awful place.
yeah, the hof process is about as ridiculous as rolling stone magazines 100 greatest guitarist of "all time" . kurt cobain at #12. yeah, that cobain was definitely better than carlos santana, and buddy guy, and tom morrelo, not to mention bo didley and eddie hazel.
unbelievable.
Hate to say it, bute a better question is this. Who votes and what is the criteria in each vote? KISS should be in no doubt!
The Monkees!
Sold more albums then the Beatles and if you have the Sex Pistols (manufactured band) in the Rock-&-Roll Hall of Fame then you have to include The Monkees! Seems like the committee doesn't like teen groups but yet so many young people are influenced by young bands.
The Stooges? Really? Forget about success, oh I'm sorry they weren't successful. Maybe Iggy Pop can take off his shirt and cut himself on stage and show how he has no talent.
whatever, stop hatin' on the stooges Mike.
Kiss is a stage act. Their music is second rate trash. This is Rock and Roll, not the Tony awards.
I could see why a group like Bon Jovi should be in, even if their main contribution is bringing 80's hair sound to your mom.....but if you fail to recognize the Stooges, Sonic Youth, Husker Du and similar bands that REALLY break new ground, then it's just a popularity contest in the end.
The Misfits!!!
The Rock n Roll Hall of Fame is a joke, I have never been able to understand how the likes of Louis Armstrong, Arthea Franklin or any other R&B act would be in there, or the numerous clearly country singers that are there. For them to be listed as early influences as the reason is a joke, let's get The Glen Miller Band in there then as an early influence and under that pretense why is Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart not in there!!! I hear Michael Jorden will be inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame!!
Neil diamond game over
Awards for art is a crock.
The HOF is nothing but a marketing campaign.
Pat Benatar!
Rush. Followed by Alice Cooper and Foreigner.
The list of bands who SHOULD have already been inducted is longer than the list of bands currently inducted.
Motorhead
Judas Priest
Two bands whose influence on rock and metal has been felt for decades.
Rush
How could Rush not be a part of the HoF? That's a joke.
Problem is the "hall" is filled with rock "elitists" that don't give credit to 70's and 80's metal, new wave, and arena rock. Like Motley Crue, Styx, Kiss, Journey, Tom Petty, REO, INXS, and The Cure. I think RHCP will be in before some of the bands metioned on this list. (and though Chicago went away from their signature "horns" in the 80's for radio friendly cheesy soft rock loft songs. The stuff in the late 60's and 70's was great!) I wasn't even around then but I appreciate great music from all eras.
None of this matters anymore. ABBA? Rock? A hall of fame for Rock is silly anyways. gimme a break
Everything you people say is true. The HOF is a JOKE. Plain and simple.
And what pisses me off even more is that they don't even try to hide the prejudice they have against Prog Rock. There are several prog bands that should have been included ages ago.
They have/had the career , the success and most importantly, the INFLUENCE in future generations of rock music that should make them no brainers! Of course that would imply that the guys who run the HOF have brains...
Neil Diamond game over.
PHiSH!!!!
This is supposed to be the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame. That automatically eliminates Public Enemy, Journey, Chicago, Hall & Oats and other pop and rap acts. If the Hall wants credibility, how about adding actual ROCK bands, like legends Motorhead, Iron Maiden and Grammy winners Judas Priest and eliminate the pop acts like Madonna.
The whole Rock n' Roll Hall of Fame concept is self important and economically driven. Who are these self-appointed people to choose who to induct and who not? You would think inducted artists would decline the "honor".
Let's not forget about Ronnie James Dio. The magical voice has fronted legendary bands Elf, Rainbow, Black Sabbath, Dio & now Heaven & Hell. His style of vocals gave Rock a completely new style which has been copied by others over and over and over. Ronnie deserves to be in the Hall, no question about it.
Three words--MOTT THE HOOPLE.
The main problem is The RR Hall of Fame hasn't noticed that Rock N Roll has mutated over the years since Buddy Holly and Chuck Berry.
Most of the Bands and Individuals mentioned above are excellent choices for the Hall.
The selection committee has to either take out a lot of current Hall members or include a lot more that were listed here.
Can't have it both ways. It's illogical.
Ross, are you forgetting Paul McCartney was the first rock bassist to play with a pick.
Chicago !!!
In my mind the most glaring omission. Such a wide range of music also. From some pounding rock to a love song and all phases in between. In second place in my mind, ELO.
whitney
whitney
whitney
If Rush got voted in I seriously doubt they would even show up for the ceremony. Honest.
It also doesn't help your credentials for induction if you managed to not get thrown in jail or sent to rehab. It also doesn't help if you've managed to keep your sanity for all those years either.
Maybe the boys should toss out some bubble pop ditty for Jann.
Speaking of...Where's The 1910 Fruitgum Company and Sam the Sham and the Pharoahs.
In 5 years Jann will probably change the rules so he can induct Lady Gaga and Beyonce.
Moody Blues & Journey
Red Hot Chilie Peppers arent too far behind
How can KISS not be in there yet? What a joke. KISS is Rock 'N Roll. Cheap Trick is so underrated, still a great band today.
Joe Jackson. He's the man!
Some worthy bands on the omission list for sure. But without DEEP PURPLE in the RRHOF they have no credibility and should not be taken seriously.
Pretenders and Van Halen
How can Rush or Kiss NOT be in the HOF??? Could someone please tell me who the Stooges are or what song they sang? Seriously, I've never heard of them.
Ditto what Len said. Also, Yes invented & popularized progressive rock, 1st group to use lasers on tour, 1st to use Dolby Surround-Sound in concert, 1st to use Digital sound in concert, 1st to sell out Madison Square Garden with NO advertising, 1st rock bassist to use a pick, 1st use of steel guitar in a rock song, still tour & create new music, and are the longest-lived popular band (of ALL bands) to continuously (no break longer than 2-years) do so. Yes has fan-bases in more countries than any other group. Rick Wakeman, Yes keyboardist, developed the first sound library for synthesizers. NOT INFLUENTIAL?? I don't think so! Check out Ahmet Ertegun's grudge against Yes after they left Atlantic Records. This is INTENTIONAL omission, with the grudge taken out against the entire genre of Progressive Rock.
T. Rex: Great music but a deceased Bolan probably doesn't have a whole lot of pull. Why not freakin' ELO? and Journey? Ina...ina...ina 5'000 dollar suit? C'mon!
Any discussion of the R & R HOF that does not include The Replacements is ridiculous. Then again, the HOF is ridiculous ... Is there anything less rock and roll then the HOF? Super Bowl half time shows, maybe ...
Using the criteria of an artist's impact on the rock music scene would make KISS, Alice Cooper and Lou Reed much more worthy than ABBA or Grand Master Flash! People that couldn't name another rock artist if their life depended on it, know who KISS is!
When you think about it, according to the eligibility requirements, isn't it just a matter of time before every rock band ever eventually winds up in the hall of fame?
I can't believe the Moody Blues aren't in the RR HoF! Their music has only been around for over 40 years (with them *still* touring), but it's also been greatly influential. Amazing. And KiSS, Chicago, and Rush? Really?!
RUSH RUSH RUSH
Neil Peart is the best drummer ever!!!!
"rock and roll" has nothing to do with a "hall of fame". the r&r hof cannot be taken seriously... madonna, blondie, abba?
can't believe they snubbed Rush.
Johnny Rivers
Just to clarify, The Stooges (AKA Iggy Pop & The Stooges) was a band during the '60s and '70s (and actually got back together in 2003). They were hugely influential on the early Punk scene, as well as inspiring many of the "r'n'r" artists that are currently inducted in the HOF, or are awaiting nominations.
Please do your homework before commenting on articles.
Thank you Tracy! I completely agree.
It isn't like CNN – and the general public – to assume that popularity is directly correlated with artistic merit?
Look at the Football Hall of Fame. Are they admitting the popular players, or the exceptional players?
Now, I think we can all agree the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a money-making scam, and that inductees are selected based on their ability to sell "best-of" albums following the ceremony. The whole thing is a sham, another devious marketing ploy by the music industry.
That said, if there were to be an honest-to-God Rock Hall of Fame, it should seem only right that inductees be selected for their originality, influence, and creativity. This should automatically preclude over half of CNN's "snubs" from the list.
KISS? Really? They were a marketing group that just happened to have a rock band... a really crappy one at that.
MC5,MitchRyder,DeepPurple,T.Rex,ThinLizzy,Humblpie,Free,Foghat,Uriah Heep
THE MONKEES! And don't tell me they're not rock 'n' roll – Mike Nesmith invented MTV and country rock!
Neil Diamond & the B-52's.
Iron Maiden
Warren Zevon
The Misfits / Glenn Danzig
TooL
I am still amazed at the fact Connie Francis has not been inducted
into the Hall of Fame. Millions of records sold, interpreted in many, many languages. Such a shame–what can they be thinking????
Definitely if Madonna is toolish enough to be a part of this club, I don't want my bands being contaminated. Anthony Kiedis, don't you worry; we love you just the way you are.
What is the rock and roll hall of fame anyway? Why not just say the band stays together for more then a year year, just automatically put them into the hall of fame. I think alot of bands that in in the hall of fame should not be there. Kind like baseball or football. Only the best of the best should be in the hall of fame, not just some average talent. Seems to me its just so diluted that its not even a special honer.
Ditto what Len said. Also, Yes invented & popularized progressive rock, 1st group to use lasers on tour, 1st to use Dolby Surround-Sound in concert, 1st to use Digital sound, 1st to sell out Madison Square Garden with NO advertising, 1st rock bassist to use a pick, 1st use of steel guitar in a rock song, still tours & creates new music, and are the longest-lived popular band (of ALL bands) to continuously (no break longer than 2-years) do so. Yes has fan-bases in more countries than any other group. NOT INFLUENTIAL??
Rush deserves this more then 90% of the potential inductees, and about 60.4 % of the actual bands in the rrhf. And im not even a big rush fan.. i just recognize talent and influence when i hear n see it. wake up!
The Pixies, DUH!
MC-5
New York Dolls(!!!)
Bad Brains(!!!!?)
Spinal Tap
The Specials
Jimmy Cliff
Desmond Dekker
I think my high school English teacher is running this RRHOFscam.
Deep Purple, Rush and T-Rex should have been there a long time ago. Let's not forget The Sensational Alex Harvey Band either. ABBA
is not Rock and Roll. I vote to have them permanently removed.
The Rock Hall has always been a joke anyway. Have the ceremony
in New York and the actual hall in ...Cleveland????? Who wants to go to Cleveland? The RHOF has never gotten it right...
Grand Funk RailRoad. Enough said.
R U S H.
The "Hall of Fame" is a joke without them included.
Paul Stanley put it best when he said "As far as I'm concerned it's a private club with a misleading name. It's a sham."
When I visited the Rock Hall I was very disappointed to find memorabilia from artists not yet inducted like Rick Springfield and TLC – but not a stitch of KISS to be seen. However, once I finished the exhibits and found myself in the gift shop the first thing I saw was a framed KISS album poster. The Rock Hall had no problem using KISS to make a little extra money but has a problem giving the band the respect they deserve.
So I say &%#@ the Rock Hall. I'm in the KISS Army.
I second the Neil Diamond nomination. While I'll be the first one to
admit that he went lounge singer after 1972, given his contributions
to the early days of rock and the fact that his concerts still draw 20K
people (from 20 years olds to the wheel chair crowd – while the HOF
members, that can still breath, are playing for 3,000 casino goers)
demonstrates that his absents from the hall illegitimizes the hall.
Jethro Tull – Aqualung, Cross Eyed Mary, Locomotive Breath, come on man
Ok I'll say it, Iron Maiden. They sell 40 million albums with NO air play. and they still fill the concert hall when they come to town and put on a kick-ass show.
Queensryche!
Tom Morysoniuk on March 15th, 2010 10:42 am ET wrote:
Van Halen
- Van Halen were inducted in 2007
Doctor Hook & The Medicine Show
Oh they are not ready yet but AIC!
Cat Stevens...a victim of anti-Islam racism in the music industry. Why else is the person who wrote Peace Train, not in the hall?
I'm certain that Abba's being inducted into the Rock & Roll HOF is a sign of the Apocalypse.
Whether or not you like them, KISS belongs in the HoF. If not for their music, their unique persona, their incredible live shows, then show me another band who paved the way for new marketing ideas! They are the foundation of all rock post 1970.
Call Foreigner, Journey, Styx, Bon Jovi, Def Leppard, etc fluff rock all you want. During their heyday (and for BonJovi – their continuing heyday), they released albums that connected with people, millions of people. Each, in their own way, helped influence all of rock. The reason we have music ages (glam, hair metal, disco, alternative, etc) is because there have been bands who defied the standard path and then defined a new path. Defy and define. One band can't do it by itself (with the possible exception to Nirvana), but in most cases it takes a wave of talent.
Sure, KISS should beat out The Stooges. Rush should beat out ABBA. Someone has already said it – they will get their day. It's unfortunate that it has taken this long, but they will.
I agree with many of the suggestions, and I agree that ABBA is most certainly NOT a rock and roll act.
If innovation and being the first of a genre is a criterion, why not induct the very first punk rockers, the Seeds? If you don't remember who they are, go to iTunes and search for a song called "Pushin' Too Hard".
Iggy Pop and the Stooges. Forbearers of Punk, Godfathers of Grunge, Roots of Heavy Metal. Sold. Don't know them? It's because your head was too far up Gary Glitter's arse at the time.
What about Pat Benatar? Should have been in before Madonna.
Bad Company! Or better yet, singer Paul Rodgers by himself!
I can see the KI$$ thing but the guys are geeting a lil picky if you ask me. Half the time they are dead by the time they get in. Plus there are great acts with careers way longer that some of the worse acts inducted. I think the the hall of fame needs some fresh blood with better minds. Get with it. AC/DC snub? The back in Black Stayed in the charts for how long? Though the Chili Peppers have been making the same record for the last 19 years nneds something come on? Slayer,
Pantera, anthrax!
Badfinger, Big Star, Cheap Trick, Minutemen
KISS...musically, no...but if a band could be considered for their marketing strategies, KISS is a no-brainer...
I'm a believer that The Monkees should be inducted into the Rock-N-Roll Hall of Fame. They've influenced thousands and I'm just tired of some elitist snobs making them their stepping stone.
pretty heady list. but let's face it, KISS was a gimmick band – not enough talent there. Can't believe they were compared to Led Zeppelin back in the 70's.
Bon Jovi – please, a hair band?
As for the rest, if Rush, the Cure, Depeche Mode, Journey, Chicago and Heart don't belong, who does?
As stated by someone below, without Neil Diamond in the Hall or on this list...forget it. One of the greatest, most sucssesful songwriters/perfomers of all-time. Don't tell me the hall is run by lobbyists too!
btw, where's Jimmy Buffett ? many, many more too...
Joe Cocker, Leon Russell and George Thorogood and the Destroyers
Tommy James
The Miracles had 40 records to make the Billboard R & B charts. This proves their popularity and longevity. They had at least 2 number 1s I can remember, Shop Around and Tears of A Clown. Each year they are overlooked you can see The Tracks Of My Tears.
KISS should be inducted for reasons other than their music and immense popularity in the 1970s. They were the band that, for better or worse, really applied the merchandising aspect to music. Anyone who was a kid in the late 70s can tell you about the dolls, lunchboxes, comic books, trading cards, etc. Sure, there was some merchandising of bands pre-KISS, but not on the same scale. So, because of their music (yes, I am a fan), their incredible status during the 1970s and their impact on the business model of rock and roll, KISS should be inducted.
Alice Cooper should, also, be inducted based on both music and their/his impact on live performances. Most of the larger heavy metal acts that were popular in the 1980s owed aspects of their live shows to Alice Cooper's shows in the 1970s. He added an aspect of theatre (specifically, horror theatre) to his concerts in a way that had not been seen before.
SLAYER! Reign in Blood...simply the most amazing piece of art ever produced.
Yes, King Crimson, and Emerson Lake & Palmer. Genesis is only the first of the prog-rockers to get inducted.
If you people don't know who the Stooges are, why they are an important band, or how they had a massive influence over several subgenres of rock from the last three decades, then I don't want to know you. To me, the hall of fame should venerate those bands/musicians that have exerted this type of influence over the bands/musicians that have followed them. I cannot think of any worthwhile band that expressly or implicitly cites Journey or Kiss as an influence.
REO Speedwagon!
Stevie Ray Vaughn should definitely be admitted, but apparently isn't even a blip on their radar
KISS is a successful cartoon novelty band...not a rock n roll hall of fame contender.
ABBA was a VERY clever POP band and studio phenomenon (I admit some of their stuff is a guilty pleasure). However, their music has VERY LITTLE to do with what we call Rock & Roll. So, all the ranting about their induction is quite understandable.
What we need is a separate "Pop Music Hall of Fame." Perhaps in Las Vegas ?? ABBA would be one of the first inducted – with no one complaining. The Beatles would end up in both.
Why is everyone going after the Stooges? They only created punk music and launched the career of Iggy Pop.
Rush! Rush! Rush! They have been the biggest omission for years now.....but there are others that deserve it too, just not before Rush.
Who cares. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is useless.
Sure, just keep naming every group you can think of. What about Jake and the Family Jewels? Ambergriss? Colisseum? Rhinocerous? King Crimson? Freddy and the Dreamers?
I absolutely hated The Stooges but they were the first punk band, even before the NY Dolls and Ramones.
And yes, The Monkees belong. They wrote some great songs themselves apart from Boyce-Hart, they played their own instruments from Headquarters on, and most of the studio musicians who played on their early records are the same people who played on the Byrds and Beach Boys studio records. I mean, not only did The Byrds not play on their "hits", they didn't even write them!
Plus, anybody who has ever seen Davy Jones completely blow off getting inducted in his interview with Bill O'Reilly, preferring instead to reminisce about how stoned the Monkees used to get between takes, knows they deserve to be in there!
what about the brady bunch they made a killer album.They rock.lol
thin lizzy
Until Grand Funk Railroad is inducted this hall means nothing to the world of Rock -N-Roll.
Rush is by far the largest oversight in my opinion, but there are so many others who are deserving.
The Stooges? C'mon, really??
you all remind me of little kids being disappointed that the ...... (enter your beloved team) has not made the playoffs again......
what about GREEN DAY
dont THEY deserve it? through all their hard work?
Deep Purple ...
YES should be in! The R&RHF is a farce!
Roxy Music!!
The Cryan Shames, The Shadows of Knight, The Buckinghams, The Flock and - most of all - The Bryds,
Induct Van Halen as follows: One for original band mates w/Diamond Dave, one for Red Rocker and one again for Diamond Dave – exit Michael Anthony – enter 'Wolfee'.
Jann Wenner as a publisher is a joke. No Black Sabbath or Alice Cooper on the cover of the Rolling Stone, ever ? but the waste of oxygen Brittany Spear gets on the cover how many times ? Does that moron even know how to play an instrument ? has she ever written a song ?Jann knows much about man love and other disgusting things but what he knows about real music that is enjoyed by real people could fit in a shot glass.Get that disgusting deviant off of the selection committee and deserving and yes, popular bands will have an even chance of getting into the RRHOF. Oh by the way I discontinued my subscription to Rolling Stone after over twenty years a few years back when it turned into an even worse version of People Magazine, what a joke it is now, worthless if you are looking for good insightful news about music and musicians.
I agree, where is Neil Diamond? He worked tin-pan ally in the early days, started out as a rocker, wrote his own stuff, and has been covered for decades.
Not having paid much attention to the HOF, due to the fact that I beleive its a commercial enterprise disguised as an artistic instituition, I was nevertheless amazed to find that the Moody Blues have not been inducted. Abba is in and not Justin Hayward and co.? what a monumental joke.
Roxy Music.
HOF is a joke!
I was always under the impression that Rock'n'Roll is also a matter of tolerance. When I read these comments I get the impression that a lot of people are not able to tolerate music they simply do not like for what ever reason. Music will always be a matter of taste – Musicians do not need to be inducted in any Hall at all – they live on through their music and their fans. RnR HoF is just another way for corporate America to celebrate itself. Go Listen to Music and stop complaining about subjective decisions. Have a nice day – I am listening to Frank Zappa right now.....
Tom
RUSH!!!!!
Stop the insanity...what song says R&R more to you "Tom Sawyer" or "Dancing Queen???"
One of the great ROCK drummers...One of the great ROCK bassists...and c'mon those power mullets they sported should be enough to get Rush in.
The thought of Neil diamond and the Moody Blues being omitted is clearly a reason not to take the HOF serious for it's rationalization of it's selection process. I know I won't contribute $$$ to RRHOF in any way whatsoever. No mag subscriptions/t-shirts or trips to the hall in my future.
The Penfifteen Club
Emerson, Lake & Palmer
Yes
Guess Who
Jethro Tull
BOSTON
The R&R HOF is becoming a joke for excluding some of these bands and letting less talented / less successful bands in. The powers that be may want to rethink what they’re doing before they alienate an entire mass of fans from this era. But without a doubt ALICE COOPER and RUSH should have been in there by now.
Arguing about who got passed over for the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame is a waste of time. The RRHOF is a complete farce and should be renamed Wenner's Favority Bands Hall. When a favorite of mine IS inducted it actually takes away from them in my opinion.
What about Jethro Tull??? They should be in the Hall.
I agree, where is Neil Diamond? He worked tin-pan ally in the early days, started out as a rocker, wrote his own stuff, and has been covered for decades. Want a great rock concert CD, check out "Hot August Night" Where is Neil?, he 's a true diamond compared to some of the coals in the hall.
I agree with Zevon & Waits. To think ABBA gets in before these two brilliant songwriters is a travesty
I read this arcticle (and only a few postings in the thread) out of mere curiosity. Seriously, is anyone *really* upset about who gets into this so-called HOF and who doesn't? I was excited to hear about the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame when it first started up. However, over the years when you see acts (I won't call some of them artists even though most are - some are just "acts") that get in with the exclusion of the others, you know this is not something I want to spend my time on when visiting the lovely burg of Cleveland.
I'm surprised Bo Donaldson and The Heywoods haven't been inducted at the rate this thing is going. Hey! Alice Cooper, Moody Blues, Cheap Trick, Bad Company, Peter Frampton, Heart - be glad your not in this Hall of Sham.
Leon Russell definitely should have been in long ago!
The one I still cannot understand beuin bypassed is Deep Purple. One of the pioneers of hard rock along with Zeppelin and Sabbath. Ritchie Blackmore was one of the world's top guitarists and Ian Paice has to be top 10 on drums. Smoke on the Water, Woman From Tokyo, Space Truckin.....the list goes on.
I had a chance to visit the Rock and Roll hall of fame during a visit to Cleveland – and in my opinion, they have done a great job over the years of identifying the guiding influences in Rock and Roll... Right up to the last three years. Something has gone horribly wrong in the selection committee and it needs to be fixed. I would have a hard time inducting ANY disco era band – but how in G's name do you induct ABBA before bands like Kiss, Rush, Cheap Trick and ALICE COOPER!!?? The current clowns in charge of selecting inductees are making the hall of fame a joke – plain and simple. Impeach – and get real experts!
The Moody Blues...and Johnny Rivers...what kind of drugs are
are the nominating folks on?
The Stooges deserve their nomination – the music is visceral, powerful and timeless. I've actually noticed their stuff included on a lot of soundtracks in the last few years.
Motorhead and Black Flag should be in there as well – both hugely influential bands.
YES
soo.... the band who 'invented' the massive arena 'stage show' with makeup, pyrotechnics, etc. as well as being the band who wrote and performed the song "Rock and Roll All Nite" amongst thousands of others including multiple Top 10 songs and albums (Kiss) is NOT in the R&R HOF... and that would be because?
Some of the others you could possibly argue (although I sure as heck wouldn't) if they truly belong to the 'rock' genre of music... but Kiss? What other genre could they possibly be in? How much more successful and influential do you need to be in order to be 'enshrined'? Think about it...
Kiss is the reason 80's 'big hair makeup' bands existed at all.
Moody Blues, ELO, Foreigner, ABBA.
Moody Blues are stil touring. Pioneers.
ELO was revolutionary and Jeff Lynne very deserving in may ways.
I've recently rediscoverd Foreigner and they are great.
ABBA? Excellent pop music - big time around the world.
The Smiths have to go in (are they eligible yet?). When their 20 years are up Oasis should go in. Has Madonna made it yet? I would live to see the Cure get in, but they probably have the wrong sort of music for the Hall.
The Stooges should be inducted, grandfathers of punk and early heavy metal. Iggy Pop is a rock icon. I also agree that Rush, Kiss and the others should be added as well. It is sad that they are voted in by a board and not fans.
i lost what little interest i had in this after they inducted Madonna.
look, if you havent figured it out yet, the people that actually vote for these bands are completely stupid. they dont vote for bands that make an influence on today or that helped inspire, they vote for crap that was popular. example.....abba. seriously? whats next? ace of base? how bout celine dion? stupid bastards. i dont like kiss, but hell, theyre infamous. and rush??? hello???? mcfly?? and lets consider opening a " real rock n roll hall of fame ".... ill never go.
and what are these comments??
Wiley March 15th, 2010 10:45 am ET
Who are the Stooges? Really? And please don't use Chicago and KISS in the same sentence, please. if you like chicago, obviously you dont know rockn roll. they arent. and you need to recognize the stooges, you tool.
Dave March 15th, 2010 10:46 am ET
The Smiths/Morrissey really? not rock. british pop.
The Lash March 15th, 2010 10:50 am ET
The Pogues should be in the Hall of Fame and monkey should fly outta my butt
Jason S. March 15th, 2010 10:51 am ET
I nominate Husker Du. well, they are good....but you gota realize good bands will never make it as long as people like lady gaga win grammys...good music will get over looked. this country is so quick to gobble up whatever the music industry tells them to, bands like ministry, the pixies, soundgarden and others, bands that always get cited as influnces, will never make it.
cheers!
Jetro Tull
I guess MC Hammer and V.Ice are already in. Whew!
Yes, there are way too many that have been snubbed. I agree with all on your list, and let's not forget Grand Funk Railroad. I can almost live with that, but inducting ABBA? That is downright blasphemy, to put it nice terms.
Jethro Tull, Deep Purple and Grand Funk Railroad. 'Nuff said....
Rush & The Cure are truly great & deserve to be inducted. KISS makes a huge spectacle but musically they suck.
KANSAS!!
At least one prog rock band has made it(Genesis). Progressive rock is woefully under-represented.
What about The Skyliners (Since I Don't Have You)? They are NEVER mentioned and their song is one of the most popular oldies in history?
name needs to be changed to music hall of fame. rock and roll hall of fame became a joke when they started inducting rap and pop music acts to be politically correct. hall is in cleveland, yet the ceremony is in new york. the people of cleveland should be picketing the hall of fame. are the inductees embarassed to be in cleveland? the joke continues......
KISS was a joke band. Their audience was junior high school students. Let's not rewrite history and pretend they were anything other than a farce.
ok. i had to look them up. they had one song i had heard. not very good. evidently they were kinda big in britain but not here. big yawner.
How can Alice Cooper not be in!? Who's voting?!
has to be journey.,: they have n0 1 i tune download and are on ev fm station so dont stop believin
How does Eernie not know who The stooges are?
You have to look at the influence the band had on the world. Not just a good tune on the radio.I think out of the list ,the only big time names are kiss, alice copper, peter frampton,public eneny.Tho's bands changed the world of music.Alot of other bands say they had big influences on them.
I can't believe someone acutally said "Steve Miller Band" should be in. They shouldn't even be in the POP Hall of Fame no less the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Their music had a slightly more elivated pace than a dead mans heart. They were used as a sleep agent before Nyquil.
...it's been 25 years since the Chili Peppers released their first album?
Now I feel old.
Jk you mean "Guns N F@@king Roses" lol, Tom Petty.
What about Jane's Addiction? They pretty much started alternative rock bring everything that is rock & roll back from the spoils of 80's glam era where the only concern was who could land the most chicks with the biggest hair sprayed doo. Jane's Addiction late 80's was dangerous, heavy, fun. sexy, surprising, unconforming, punk, metal, and some great love songs to boot. But most of all original with a romantic rock & roll vision that you don't see much these days. A great all around band that had some of those most exciting shows ever.
Most of the Rock bands listed here OPENED for KISS! ....KISS SHOULD BE NEXT IN LINE ABOVE ALL OTHERS..
Does anyone know why Karen Carpenter is not in the Hall?
Bad Company, Foreigner, Rush, Kiss, and Journey should all be in the Hally before ABBA is, give me a break. Is the Hall just spacing out who they induct so they can reap the biggest audience each year rather than inducting all of the shoe-ins at once?
Springsteen and Tom Morello doing 'Ghost of Tom Joad' at the HOF concert last year was epic.
The Cure is tops on my list. 30+ years all the different sounds and for having a hand in the birth of 80's gothic looks and sounds.
Still performing 3 hour concerts at their age too!
Keep it up Robert Smith!
The concept of a Rock & Roll Hall of fame goes against the very soul of Rock and Roll.
No Rush...no Hall of Fame. It's just another building you have to pay to get into.
The Cowsills!!
I'm not concerned about omissions as much as admissions. There are too many inducted that are NOT rock & roll or rock musicians. ABBA for instance was a "Pop" singing act. Maybe there should be a Pop Muzak Hall of Fame where all the other pop genres such as disco, R&B, and other more modern "stuff " or "product" like it can go.
Abba since when is this considered rock? This is political bulls***!
WHAT ABOUT GRAND FUNK.
Do you want to know what the definition of a Rock Group is? It's Grand Funk Railroad.
In 1970, they sold more albums than any other group in America. The next year, they broke The Beatles' ticket sales at Shea Stadium, selling out their two day stand in 48 hours and grossing over $300,000.
AND WHAT ABOUT THE DOOBIE BROTHERS..
THE HALL IS A JOKE..
THAT IS JUST 2 GREAT BANDS THAT SHOULD BE IN........
I don't think ANY of these band really deserve to be in – sales or public popularity have nothing to do with whether an artist belongs in the hall. It has to do with whether an artist's contribution has had widespread and lasting influence and merit. How many current artists cite Journey as a motivating and meaningful influence compared to, say, the Stooges?
What about Grand Funk?
Huge album sales. Sold out Shea Stadium faster than the Beatles. Upstaged Led Zeppelin. The list goes on and on...
Come on...if Madonna is a member then ANYBODY should be allowed in!
The E Street Band!!!!!!!!!
They should induct Iron Maiden, Judas Priest, Motorhead, and Stevie Ray Vaughn.
Most everyone on the list, especially KISS. When a group influences the next generation or music stars as they have, how can you justify keeping them out. They were a big influence on Garth Brooks and many others. Come on. The voters just hate Gene Simmons.
Linda Ronstadt. Period.
ABBA......Disco, not RnR
Kiss is probably the worst band of all time and Alice Cooper was a joke. Is this really news? Why would they be in the HOF? Both bands were all make-up and little talent. Between the two of them, they recorded some of the worst songs to ever assault the senses. Why is anybody surprised?
A Rock & Roll Hall of Fame w/o Stevie Ray Vaughan & Warren Zevon is not worth paying attentiont to.
It makes me sad to see that nobody has had any love for Boston, who to date still has the best selling debut record of all time, and that debut being in the top 20 selling records of all time. Not to mention that Kansas should definitly have a spot in the R&R hall of fame. Many people only know them for dust in the wind and carry on wayward son but they shaped american prog music, they were the first american prog band first pete's sake! (Yes being britist and Rush being Canadian, both bands that should be in the rock and roll hall of fame) Why not the red hot chili peppers? Seriously they are still making a genre of music that supposedly died in the 70's (funk). The people who run the Rock and Roll Hall of fame are just pompous higher-ups that pick their favorite bands to give awards to.
Talking about influence for their times....The Monkees
Chicago. Period.
Sure they sold out after some time (but what band hasn't...really), but go back and listen to their first 7 albums and you'll see that they deserve to be there before any others on that list. Damn good band.
Correction, Dick Clark is in the Hall with what is now known as the "Ertegun Award".
Its a crime that The Moody Blues, Alice Cooper, The Miracles
Rush and Heart are not in the RRHOF!!!!
never heard of t-rex and i'm old
Siouxsie and the Banshees
at the rate this is going RUSH will make it in 2112
@Tom
You are incorrect. Alice Cooper (1972) and Black Sabbath (actually Ozzy 2002) have both been on the cover of Rolling Stone.
eventually everybody will be in and we can stop.
The only one on the list that really surprised me was the Moody Blues–they've been around since the earth cooled. And like an earlier poster, I believe Tom Waits deserves his own wing.
Leon Russell. Everything from Phil Spector's Wall of Sound to Badfinger (hear that piano on "Day After Day"?, the Concert for Bangladesh to "Song for You", "This Masquerade" and hundreds more!
Blue Oyster Cult,,,,Don't Fear The Reaper of course a rock Classic along with Godzilla and Burning for you, Inspired generations of rockers and Reaper has been redone many times by younger bands...The Godfathers of Goth as they sang about Goth subjects well before the term was ever used...True Artist
KISS, as much as those who want to always look down on them.....they were as big as a rock band can possibly be for a few years in the 70s. They were HUGE. Ridiculously so....and interstingly enough so big, it led to their downfall too. But, they managed to come back....and seem to keep coming back.
But, these guys have been rocking for 4 decades and have songs that are a part of our mainstream culture. This is simply a no-brainer.
Chicago....another no-brainer. Come on...I'd think these guys would fit right in with the type of bands they elect.
Also Hall and Oates are derserving.
ELO....hmmmm.....really great band for a few years...on a little ELO kick right now, but not sure if they were good enough, long enough.
JOURNEY. Steve ("The Voice"), Neal, Ross, Jon, Steve Smith & Gregg Rolie.
Maybe they can start inducting new bands before they've even put out their first album. If The Nobel Peace Prize can do it, why not the R&R HoF?
Rush, Cooper, T-Rex, and Bad Company have all been so influancial on R&R that it's insane that they have been inductide so far. I get Kiss too, although I have never been a fan.
Who helped define an era?.......Kiss, Frampton, Hear & Journey are the easy ones from this list.
Bon Jovi – Well over 100MM albums sold...tour after tour of sold out shows...one of the greatest rock songs EVER in "Living On A Prayer"...need I say more?
(And to the naysayers, they may have gotten their start in the 80s...but to pigeon hole them as an 80s hair band is misguided. Hell, they are still here, selling out shows and selling millions of albums, when many of their so called "contemporaries" have long since faded away. They were telling stories in their songs when others were selling "girls and cars". And, as a result, their music holds up some 25-30 years later.)
What about Blue Oyster Cult? Those guys rocked the 70's and 80's
Don't fear the reaper, Godzilla, Burnin for you, Joan Crawford...on and on. The HOF is BS.
Every one of those bands should be in the Hall. That will happen over time, I'm sure.
What about REM? They have influenced a generation of musicians.
I believe their music will continue to influence musicians for generations to come.
Makes no sense to leave so many of them out!
KISS
Chicago
Alice Cooper
Moody Blues
Journey
All great misses, but the glaring one is the Doobie Brothers. 40 million records sold, Grammy awards, heavy airplay, 40-year career, still touring 80-100 shows a year and a great live show..What does it take Jann!
Stevie Ray Vaughn. Some things in life are indefensible. His being excluded from the HOF is one of them.
What about the true rock pioneers such as Aldo Nova, New Kids on the Block, and of course Pat Benetar??? A rock and roll HOF without Pat Benetar is a joke!! Not to mention such trailblazers as Johnny Klegg & Savuka, Debarge, and Tiffany?? The R&R HOF is obviously anti-women: no Tiffany, no Debbie Gibson, no Miley Cyrus, what a joke.
Phish!
I'd love to hear why Public Enemy should be inducted into the ROCK and ROLL Hall of Fame.
What about Country Joe and the Fish????
What about the Moody Blues? Talk about great musicians and songwriters!
What about Donny and Marie? I know they are a little bit country, but they are a little bit rock and roll too!
The Replacements!
Honestly
Kiss, The Cure, Rush, Cheap Trick, Journey all deserve it now.
Maybe
Depeche Mode, but that is my art school education talking. Alice Cooper will make it sooner or later and the Red Hot Chilli Pepper just have to quit writing songs about California to be in.
These guys passed over Journey and Rush? I've just stopped caring about who is in the rock n roll hall of fame. That center is now dead to me.
Good post, Rusty. But you forgot Shemp. He was everybit as funny as the other 3 Stooges.
Seriously, if Metallica is in (& they are & they deserve to be), then you have to have the forefathers of Heavy Metal & Hard Rock in. Alice Cooper, Kiss, & Judas Priest SHOULD ALL have been inducted before Metallica even got nominated. Also, Rush, E.L.O., & Heart should all be inducted.
Motorhead
I hear the New York Dolls deserve it.
The Rock and Roll HoF is just an extension of Jann Wenner's vanity. That's why there are certain rock bands in there along with people and bands that should of never even got nominated. I mean c'mon, Madonna, Leonard Cohen, Frankie Lymon, Grandmaster Flash and The Furious Five.....
I could go on and on, but won't.
You'll probably never see certain bands in there just because Jann doesn't like them. Like Rush. His hate for the boys is well documented if only because his magazine barely even acknowledges that they exist. They've been a band since '68 and put out their first recordings in '73, but they just got their first cover on Rolling Stone last year.
But, you can be sure that one hit Doo Wop'ers like Frankie Lymon will get in just like Jann's gay icons like Cohen and Madonna get in as well. We also don't want to forget his hipster CH buddies from the 70's like The Eagles.
As for Kiss....They had the misfortune to not only be disliked by Jann, but they were also the first band to bring Rush out of Canada to open shows for them. Double whammy.
Anyway, it's just a place for hipsters who love themselves a little too much and not a place where the average fan or consumer can enjoy any impartiality in their selections.
It's just another brand extension for Jann and Rolling Stone, nothing else.
Depeche Mode? Never heard of them
at least to the commitee
Jann Wenner like most critically acclaimed .........…critics are for the most part, oh well who are we kidding, critics are completely full of themselves and well as……………………….. sh! t
XTC so ought to be in the HOF. So should The Call, but they never ask me what I think.
Public Enemy paved the way for rap to become main stream. As the famous prophet Chuck D once said, "Once again back is the incredible, Rhyme Animal, The Incredible D Public Enemy Number 1." Plus an acceptance speech from Flava Flav would be ridiculous.
Joe Satriani?
It is hard to believe Genesis is going in before the band Yes.Most likely this is the result of the Phil Collins era and not Peter Gabriel.I do not think it is a mistake or schedule conflict that Peter will not be at the ceremony. Whether you like it or not Yes invented the progressive rock genre and they should be there.
In no particular order – Loggins and Messina. Moody Blues. Rush. KISS. Todd Rundgren. Hall and Oates. Journey. Neil Diamond. And Dick Clark. All worthy, all sub-genre leaders of their time, all influential but all too commercial maybe?
Lou Reed: He is in the Hall as part of The Velvet Underground. But he definitely should be in a a solo artist.
what about SLAYER? THey came out in 1983
Rush by far is the biggest omission. ABBA? Give me a break- if that is rock and roll then rock is dead. Other omissions- Yes, Deep Purple and how about Steppenwolf? After all they gave us the phrase heavy metal.
Rush. Numerous gold, platinum and multi-platinum records. 35 years releasing original material and persistent touring. About to embark on yet another summer tour. The RRHOF is simply not listening.
RUSH – CRUE – KISS – BON JOVI all need to be in....
Thin LIzzy. Free.
X and John Doe
Quote from gay4cash
"Bon Jovi paved the way for Glam Rock"
You're joking right?
have you heard of T-Rex, Sweet, the Glitter band, Mott the Hoople, New York Dolls, Roy Wood, Alice Cooper, Slade....I could go on?
Judas Priest, Iron Maiden, motorhead
The Stooges are overdue to get in however I can understand the younger people not understanding why. The MC5 should also be considered and I'm sure have been already since they parallel The Stooges in many respects. I too am disappointed in who does not get in such as Linda Ronstadt. Someone above says "Bon Jovi paved the way for glam rock" which is really silly. Bon Jovi isn't even glam rock and when "glam rock" was around it wasn't too bad at all. IE: T-Rex, David Bowie, Alice Cooper, to name a few. I especially liked Alice Cooper but we're talking about early '70s now. Life is good. Enjoy music
RUSH – CRUE – KISS – BOB JOVI all need to be in....
Knights In Satans Service was ground breaking and there are still KISS-aholics in the world this many years later. So I think they top the list followed very closely by Rush.
Of the ones listed above a few are blatant: KISS, Chicago, The Moody Blues and Peter Frampton (Purely on the HUGE success of Frampton Comes Alive) All the rest,could go either way. Just because a band or artist is good doesn't warrant induction into the HoF. Just because a football player has a decent season or two, doesn't mean he gets into Canton. Every good baseball player doesn't make it to Cooperstown. Foreigner, Rush, Journey, Heart and Bad Company were all good bands, but HoF material, not so sure about that.
So, we have a board of musical critics who don't even know who the Stooges are??? Ever heard of Iggy Pop? The least talented group of the bunch, but c'mon... know your stuff folks.
Not sure about Bad Company, but Paul should be in for sure.
Didn't want to be "that Rush fan", but after reading all these comments saying how utterly rediculous it is that they aren't already in the HOF (after nearly 40 years together, 40 million albums sold, and probably close to the same number of tix sold). To be snubbed for the likes of ABBA and the Stooges, I think I'll give up on the HOF, and can promise never to take my kids there (and drop a dime of my money).
MOTT THE HOOPLE and IAN HUNTER need to be in the hall. After all, Ian wrote "Cleveland Rocks", and Mott influenced so many bands and artists, many of whom are already in the Hall.
Jethro Tull......J. Geils
Chicago and Public Enemy not on the list is just unsatisfactory. Two cutting edge bands of their times:
Chicago: The mix of rock and jazz (trumpets), unheard of before them.
Public Enemy: Speaking out on racial injustice through rap, one of the pioneering rap groups to do that with hard hitting beats. Chuck D, Flavor Flav, and the S1Ws, come on man!!!!!!
Amen to Todd Rundgren!!
The Pixies
DEEP PURPLE, need i say more
Heart!!!!!!!! Best concert band of all time with greatest female rock voice of all time. Period.
Jason S. – Husker Du rocks!
KISS and Alice Cooper are the two biggest names I think are missing. Others, like Cheap Trick, Heart, RUSH, definitely are worthy. It's the politics of the game, I think every artist in the HOF is deserving of recognition but not as rock n roll artists. ABBA?
like some others I'm not sure of the list that is in but if the Greatful Dead are not in then something is wrong.
WARREN ZEVON ! Aaah-ooo !!!
What about the B-52's? They are still going strong after 33 years! They weathered the death of a founding member, and always put on one heck of a show. Plus, they have so much love and respect for their fans.
KISS should be inducted right now!! one of the most influental bands ever!! and did someone say that bands like Journey, Foreigner, are not rock& roll???? your obviously still wet behind the ears pal! go listen to some rap crap.....Old School bands can BLOW EVERY NEW BAND OUT OF THE WATER.... PERIOD!
One band that gets no love is Grand Funk Railroad. Those guys ROCK! True Classic Rock and very deserving for the RRHOF.
YES stands head and shoulders above every group listed on this page and the subsequent pages (sorry Rush-niks)
What about Motley Crue?? Come on.
Nazareth!!!
Mudhoney!!
Has Grand Funk been inducted yet?
R U S H. Every prog-rock band of any stripe owes a huge debt to Rush. So innovative and influencial. I'm certain they'll make it into the HOF some day, but do it sooner than later! Begin the day with a friendly voice....
Southside Johnny and the Asbury Jukes – 35 years and still going Strong
For all of those that are bashing the entry of the Stooges simply because you don't know who they are, I would suggest listening to Raw Power. Also, to get a feel for their genre, another band out of Detroit that had a similar style were the MC5. Both the Stooges and MC5 were absolute hard rock and punk trailblazers of the late 60s and early 70s. Their music influenced KISS, GnR, The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Nirvana, Jane's Addiction, the Cult, and Queens of the Stoneage among others. Even though they didn't sell millions of records, real musicians that made it big knew their talent and were greatly influenced by them.
Uh, hey Tom?
VanHalen was inducted in 2007 or 2008. (Right as Eddie was going into rehab)
What about Badfinger, and guitarist/songwriter Pete Ham? Remember these great songs from the early 70's: Day After Day, No Matter What, and Baby Blue. Pete Ham also cowrote, with Badfinger bandmate Tom Evans, one of the most famous ballads of all time, Without You.
Heart without question should be in the Rock and Roll HOF.
20 top 40 hits
9 top 10 hits
8 Platinum albums
Continuing to play and tour for over 35 years
Rush, Rush, Rush. Period. They paved the way for so many hard rock, alternative, progressive bands that it is a mortal sin not to have them in. Further, undisputed amongst the top rock guitarists, drummers and bass players of our time are the fair trio from the great white north. I take it back, it's not just a sin, it's mortal stupidity.
I can't believe that Rush is not in the Hall of fame. I guess I just assumed they were. I'd like to know who the judges are and how they make there decisions.
Because the HOF is so important to these bands...
What about Jethro Tull !!!!!!!!??????
Dickey Betts some of the best songs ever written
Moody Blues, Yes, Jethro Tull, King Crimson.... Do you notice a trend here!
The band BOSTON has the best selling debut album in rock history. Their sound was both innovative and revolutionary in the late 70's. What makes their first album even more incredible was that most of it was recorded in the basement of Boston's founder, Tom Scholz.
Paul Revere & the Raiders, one of the longest-last rock acts going and real ground breakers for their time.
Not really a fan of either, but surprised to see KISS and Alice Cooper omitted.
In response to a post above, Van Halen is in the HOF. Deservedly.
It's a Hall of Fame – 'Fame' being the operative word. That would indicate to me that the fame (i.e., popularity) of a band should be the primary consideration. If they want to be snotty about it and exclude bands based on things like how innovative or ground-breaking they are, then stop calling it a Hall of Fame.
Baseball's HoF has the same problem. The voters are outrageously self-important and use their positions to pass judgment as if it were doctrine.
How could they have missed KC & The Sunshine Band? They not only created an entire genre, but their music is everywhere still today!
The key words here are "Rock N" Roll". Why do they keep inshrining rap groups/artists into the hall? ABBA is bubble gum pop. And the fact that Madonna got inducted before anyone on this list, it is down right insulting!!
Why don't they just induct The Archies into the hall & get it done and over with. I'm not even sure I want to visit the Hall at this point. Horrible choices the last couple of years
Jimmy Buffet, Really? You need down a thermos of coffee just to listen to him…. When Does Yannie and Kenny G get their induction? Maybe they should rename it “Easy Listening Hall of Fame”.
Each year, the HOF inexplicably snubs Yes, the group single-handedly responsible for creating and fostering the progressive rock category and paving the way for Rush, Dream Theater and the like. Shame, HOF, shame...
I believe the Moody Blues are the most glaring ommission. They were huge in the seventies and still are out there getting it on. They have a distinct sound that is instantly recognizable and no one else has been able to copy. Their music is entirely their own compositions. That's what the Hallof Fame should be recognizing, musical creativity.
How about Jethro Tull?? They were a cultural icon as well.
I've been a HUGE KISS fan all of my life and I might be a little biased here but hear me out...
When you go to a KISS show you know you are about to get your moneys worth. The theatrics alone – the flash, smoke, drum kits that rise, etc...Man, if it wasn't for KISS – The rock and roll show would not be what it is today!!!
Kiss may not be the most awesome song writers or the best guitar players. But they are the best showmen in the business hands DOWN. Show after show has been sold out or very close to sell out for
the past 10 years and with this current line up there is no telling when KISS will call it quits.
All that I ask is when KISS does get their shot at the hall of fame -
Which by the way is a joke... It's the ROCK AND ROLL HALL not RAP.
All I ask is that EVERY member be inducted. Because with out EACH member KISS would not be where they are today. Still rockin' and putting on the best show on the planet.
I would like to see Eddie Van Halen introduce KISS into the hall since
he is already there and it was GENE SIMMONS who gave VanHalen there big break.
Paul Rodgers and Bad Company, of course. Paul Rodgers still has an amazing voice!
if you're going to induct a prog rock band like Genesis,how can you possibly overlook Yes?
RNR HOF is just like all the other HOFs. A select few pick who they think should be in. It's a waste of time and effort. Like who you like and be done with it.
Jethro Tull has been rocking for 40 years and they're not in the HOF? That's when my interest in the whole deal dropped off.
Depeche Mode are icons...
The RR Hall of Fame is a shame. All the bands you guys are discussing above, should be in. Including a band called Jethro Tull, who defined progressive rock in the 70's.
The Small Faces (They could have been inducted when Steve Marriot and Ronnie Lane were still alive. Continued exclusion is a shame)
Faces (a supergroup-in-reverse)
Humble Pie (Frampton gets in, but not because of his lame solo career)
Delaney and Bonnie and Friends
Joe Tex
Laura Nyro
Flying Burrito Brothers
Monkees (yes–the records are great)
Free
Clarence Carter
and as a non-performer, how about British engineer/producer Glyn Johns, who made some of the best sounding records ever made??
How about Richard Thompson? He doesn't sell much, but he's been around forever and many fellow artists consider him one of the best guitarist/songwriters in the business.
Rush and Chicago most shocking exclusions
Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, Rush, and yes, Kiss. All these bands should be no-brainers. And I believe that Alice was on the cover of Rolling Stone sometime around the Billion Dollar Babies – Welcome To My Nightmare era.
Genesis, Rush, Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer, the Moody Blues. There seems to be a prejudice against progressive rock bands.
I would like to know what the criteria is to be inducted!
Everyone has really touched on the varying aspects of how egregious the Rush omission is. Let me just add, they started in 1974 (first album) and have consistently played, recorded RELEVANT music since that time. Their last album was deemed to be one of their best in a while. They pack stadiums and they are some of the most intricate musicians around. I've read The Stooges were added because of their influence on punk, I daresay Rush has had an influence on many more musicians (at the least just as many). I really find the ongoing omission befuddling, but Rush tends to get more press by not being in R&R HoF, to be honest.
Def Leppard, as well as KISS, Alice Cooper, and Rush, to name a few. I can't believe this article names Bon Jovi and omits Def Leppard.
Rush for sure, they have influenced so many great bands and have been going strong for 30+ years. HOF is a joke or at least extremly political.
Stevie Ray Vaughan
Most conspicuosly missing from even your list is the LONG OVERDUE induction of The Doobie Brothers. They have their own signature sound, like other great bands. When you hear those harmonies, you know right away it's the Doobie Brothers.
As for the omission of KISS , they should left out permanetly unless they start a category of: Mediocre Bands (at best) with great a marketing gimmick.
Hey, who took my Twinkies??
Deep Purple. Jeez, they didn't even make YOUR crummy list.
Let me get this straight: Smokey Robinson and the Miracles are NOT in the RRHOF? What a joke!
SMOKEY is in. ALONE. the rest of THE MIRACLES, BOBBY ROGERS , CLAUDETTE ROBINSON, PETE MOORE, RONNIE WHITE, and MARV TARPLIN, were SNUBBED by the Hall Of Fame FOR NO GOOD REASON. ALSO,
SMOKEY is in. ALONE. the rest of THE MIRACLES, BOBBY ROGERS , CLAUDETTE ROBINSON, PETE MOORE, RONNIE WHITE, and MARV TARPLIN, were SNUBBED by the Hall Of Fame FOR NO GOOD REASON.
Moody Blues baby..the Moody Blues. Have every CD they have ever made, have seen them twice in concert. They have a sound that is unmatched and yet with many groups over the years I hear how the Moody Blues influenced them. To those of you who have never listened to them, by all means get The Lost Chord CD, but any will do.
If they are going to induct a group like ABBA, then I don't see how K.C. and the Sunshine Band have not even been considered yet. They are only responsible for starting the Disco sound, I know some people look down on that genre but you can't tell me that when a song like "Get Down Tonight" starts playing you can't help but start dancing!
THREE DOG NIGHT!!! The biggest selling rock bank from 1969 until 1974. There are a lot of less deserving groups already inducted.
Anne Murray , the Death Metal Queen
C'mon people, this is called the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame ... I really like Smokey, motown and james Brown – but they are NOT Rock'n'Roil.
Iggy and Stooges, YES –
Hall'nOates? – well, thats Blue Eyed soul, not Rock'n'Roll!
but apparently the definitions are stretched REAL THIN if they let ABBA in ...
Depeche Mode
The Cure
Hall and Oates
Public Enemy
These are not "Rock and Roll" artists and, as such, do not belong in the Rock & Roll Hall of fame.
Ever.
Everyone else on the list is being robbed, however.
If exceptions were made for RAP Groups like the Cure and other Alternative Groups can be accepted.
Grand Funk Railroad?
MOODY BLUES!!
Heart! Without a doubt!!
Wow! This is eye opening! There are so many great bands on this list. I have just recently been listening Rush again. By my vote, they are one of the best rock and roll bands of all time. I put them ahead of most bands already inducted.
RUSH, are you kidding me, by far the biggest snub. Neil Peart alone should be in the hall. He is one of the greatest Rock drummers of all time, but his band cant get in. It is the ROCK & ROLL HOF, right? They epitomize rock and roll. But ABBA is in, The R & R HOF is BS. Great rockers are judged by the true rock fans and rock musicians. If I ever go to Cleveland I wouldnt go to the hall anyway. Maybe the baseball HOF should let in some cricket players, its not quite baseball but it has a stick and ball.
Like most HOFs, the inductees are chosen by people inside the industry and are rarely reflective of the wants of the general public. This doesn't really bother me all that much. I wonder if the Rock and Roll HOF is just a little bit TOO inside the industry. I would like to see more objective criteria than "Well, the board likes them alot."
BTW: I like Chicago, but I can't describe them as a 'rock' band with a straight face. They and Hall and Oates need to be in the "Adult Contemporary HOF."
The Cure needs their own "Angst Rock HOF" with Nick Cave.
Chicago – really kicked off a whole new thing – Terry Kath is an oft overlooked guitarist and the 1st 3 albums were great and 4-8 had their highlights – afterr that they became a prett ylame pop act. Live from Carnegie Hall and Live from Japan both really show the depth of this band – then came Colosseum Ten Wheel Drive, Chase and a few others. 25 or 6 to 4! first
Also John Mayall for his influence and development of blues anf the follow on impact on rock and some of our favorite guitarists – Clapton, Green (early Fleetwood) , Taylor ( the Stones best years!)...listen to the Mayall stuff with these players and you'll understand!
No one deserves HOF more than Rush. The fact that these 3 incredible musicians have not even been nominated is all you need to know about this stupid entity. Someone with some $ needs to start a REAL R&R HOF. The Cars deserve some respect here too.
Heart, Pat Benatar–Woman of ROCK !!!!!!!
Rush, KISS, The Cure should be the next inductees. All groundbreaking and influential. All still making great music.
Dead Milkmen
KIZZ most defintely should be in the rock n/ roll HOF! The Stooges make it but not KIZZ? Regardless of if you think the makeup, costumes, elaborate stage show are "gimics" or marketing genius, The Music speaks for itself and they were the first in a long list of rock n' roll that took their music and performances to a whole new level. The songs alone demand that KIZZ be entered into the rock n' roll HOF!
Little Feat. The best performing band of the 70's, Led Zeppelin's, The Rolling Stones' favorite band.....Supposedly they'll never get it 'cuz Lowell George insulted Jann Wenner at a party back in the day. Check out the reviews for "Waiting For Columbus" on Amazon. Scary thing is, it's not even their best work.
Johnny Rivers–he had "Poor Side of Town" "Secret Agent" lots more.
The Progressive Rock movement continues to get the shaft. Some of the very same critics who hated them are now part of the induction committee. What about King Crimson, Yes, Emerson, Lake and Palmer and Rush, to name just a few? The critics and historians like to pretend that this genre never existed, yet it was very successful both artistically and musically and the influence of these bands is still felt today. Pink Floyd was the only partially progressive rock band to get in, until Genesis this year. I assume that Genesis' induction was due more to their commercial success with Phil Collins as opposed to their more Progressive work with Peter Gabriel.
The Stooges are long overdue an induction. They have had a massive impact on modern music, without them there is no punk, no grunge, if you're fan of GN'R, there's no GN'R. Their first three albums are classic and incredibly fresh. If you haven't heard them, chances are you've heard a song that ripped them off.
Rush..Yes..Black Sabbath.. Enough said
Black Flag.
Little Feat. If you don't know them or why they absolutely belong in the R&R Hall of Fame, and you're following this conversation, go get Dixie Chicken, Sailin' Shoes, Waiting for Columbus and The Last Record Album and get back to me later. Feats Don't Fail Me Now!
Kiss more than any other band deserves the hall. They have thousands of fans that have protested to the point where they got them on the ballet now. They are still selling stadiums out today. They are recognized in every country on this planet. I think people would identify their faces faster than most politicians that we elect across the country. Why do you think other bands have fire, and explosions during their shows, yep because of these guys. Pearl Jam, Lenny Kravitz, Garth Brooks all cite them, heck Gene Simmons found Van Halen in a bar setting. Their true testament is a 35 year carrer with more sold albums than the Beatles, enough said...
Red Hot Chili Peppers need to be inducted!
Deep Purple, Rainbow and Rush. When I see bands like these left offf the list but crappy rap groups get in.....I know the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is BS.
For straight ahead rock, I think you have to take Rush, Foreigner, Chicago but how long do we wait for Little Anthony and the Imperials and the Miracles? Hall & Oates are the all time best selling duo in the history of music (no hyperbole either, just the fact). Who do you have to .... to get in anyway!?
The Imperials are in. They were inducted in 2009. The MIRACLES , however, are STILLl not in . With their many accomplishments, they should have been on the FIRST ballot !! They have more songs inducted into THE GRAMMY HALL OF FAME than ANY other Motown group. More than THE SUPREMES, TEMPTATIONS, 4 TOPS, JACKSON FIVE , COMMODORES,,,,ALL OF THEM !! Plus, they just got a star on the HOLLYWOOD WALK OF FAME, and no less than 3 SONGS on Rolling Stones list of THE 500 GREATEST SONGS OF ALL TIME !!! They are also the MOST-COVERED Motown group of ALL TIME , and are ranked as #32 in ROLLING STONE'S list of THE IMMORTALS: THE 50 GREATEST ARTISTS OF ALL TIME (the highest-ranking Motown group on the list)..Yet STILL NOT INDUCTED AFTER 23 YEARS ...WHY ??
Steve Vai.
King Crimson.
Who actually cares about the R&RHOF and what difference does it make for the artists??? None as far as I can tell. What a joke.
If I am NOT mistake......YES is not in the so called Hall of Fame yet, either. YES, Moody Blues and RUSH....NOT in there? Some Hall of Fame, without these people.
Rush, Yes, and Chicago should've been in years ago. The problem with these groups is critics (the guys/gals who vote) either LOVE them (note the all caps), or HATE them (ditto). The guys/gals who HATE them have vowed that they will never be in, and therefore they aren't.
Neil Diamond should be in (for sure as a songwriter, if not as a performer).
Alice Cooper should be in, and Kiss should not be inducted until after him.
Lots of good suggestions coming out, some popualr, others inventive. One group not mentioned that owned the airwave in the early 70" –The Grass Roots-something like 19 top 10's, several number one's–they may have been more mainstrean like Neil Diamond, but they certainly have their place in R&R History the same as Kiss, Ruch, Deep Purple, Alice Cooper and the Chile Peppers
Peter Tosh
Toots & The Maytals
Fela Kuti
The E Street Band
Kansas!
Definately agrees that Warren Zevon and Tom Waits should at the very least be nominated..
adds Chris Rea...
Who cares?
Every year that RUSH keeps getting snubbed just makes the RHOF the Rock and Roll Hall of Shame...It's time to give a band that has given millions of fans great rock and roll the respect that they deserve...
There are far tomany great bands left off the list here...
We should start another Hall of Fame under a different name and
finnally give these bands the credit they deserve.
Phish
How in the hell is abba in the hall, this is R&R not pop!!! Add this to the travesty of Maddona, shes a real rock and roller alright! I did not realize that the Moodies were excluded, they sure do merit consiseration before Abba!. I understand that all of the selections are some what subjective but please try not to dilute the membership so much it becomes absurd, how about letting the other shoe drop and nominating Slim Whitman next year.
Emerson Lake and Palmer are one of the most obvious overlooks. And while I really don't expect them to be considered anytime soon, it should be noted that they are one of the reasons bands like Genesis or Rush are even discussed in musical circles. Each of the members of ELP contributed to the making of a powerful genre (Progressive Rock) that continues to inspire and influence even modern acts like Queen, Muse or Dream Theater even before they formed ELP (King Crimson, Crazy World of Arthur Brown and the Nice). As far as I know they still hold the record for the largest attendance at the Olympic Stadium in Montreal. Emerson almost single handedly allowed for the introduction of the synthesizer into modern rock music as something more than just a sound effect generator. They also opened the doors to some of the most elaborate staging long before the likes of U2.
Run DMC and Grandmaster Flash are in but not the following:
Iron Madden
Rush
Kiss
Def Leppard
Styx
Moody Blues
Chicago
Judist Priest
Motley Crue
Cheap Trick
Deep Purple
Roxy Music
Heart
Alice Cooper
Yes
ELP
ELO
And I can go on with who belongs in there before those non rock acts. Its a joke and will always be.
Once again they have excluded The Cowsills
They were popular back in the 60s & 70s and
should be in the Hall of Fame
Gram Parsons, credited with helping to found both country rock and alt-country.
Gram Parsons only gets in if you induct the Flying Burrito Brothers. Chris Hillman was as much of a part of the development of country rock as Gram.
If you don't put in the Burrito Brothers as a group, then they should induct Poco as a band that pushed country rock front and center.
Bon Jovi for sure.
Seriously, Depeche Mode deserves it as well!
JETHROW TULL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Tom Waits
Cosimo Matassa
Nick Cave
XTC
To me, the biggest omissions here are Rush and the Moody Blues. These bands have existed forever, worked hard, produced a very wide-ranging catalog of music, and had huge impacts on several genres of rock music.
My guess is that most of these bands will make it eventually.
My sense is that Depeche Mode should make it, but if they do, the hall can't really ignore contemporary electronic bands that were just as good / successful (at least viewed worldwide) / influential like Erasure, the Pet Shop Boys, New Order, and Yaz(oo). I just don't see a case for singling DM out from these other bands. And the hall might also have to induct someone like Krattwerk – who really invented the genre in many ways.
J. Geils Band. Great band who could really play live. Huge band in the 1970's and 1980's. They can still put it down live too. They had a few shows last year with most of the original members.
What about New Order/Joy Division I agree with everyone on the list that they also should be in, including Red Hot Chili Peppers. We in the US have blinders on when it comes to the European multi Day festivals. I am sure when the Stone Roses year of eligility comes up they will be passed on as well. Echo and the Bunnymen, Psychadelic Furrs no 80's representation at all.
Up ur noses with "Guns N Rose" - they blow on same par as the unworthy with Bon Jovi and.... Metallica (Napster bad!!)
Ever since the Madonna induction, I have no respect for the Rock an Roll hall of Fame, nor will I ever visit.
Ah, Rush. Very Progressive for the 70s, as Chicago was progressive in the late 60s. Restructuring Rock 'n Roll, creating something new. If you weren't born then you would never have the extent of appreciation that a 50 year old has. Both deserve inclusion. On a personal level I never purchased a KISS album but you never seem to read a musician interview that doesn't include a statement about the influence of either the Beatles or KISS. And Journey – can't say how they influenced Rock 'n Roll but I can support them being there just for how they made me feel. Perfect synergy. By they way, who are the Stooges?
Alice Cooper was the original Shock Rocker, who inspired Rob Zombie and Marilyn Manson. He wrote the summer launch anthem School's Out, as well as No More Mr. Nice Guy, the song everyone hums when they've had enough. He has a chameleon sense of music that evolves with the generations. This man definitely deserves his place in the Hall.
Being a true Baby Boomer what we considered to be Rock N Roll was just about everything except for those that were considered "Folk". Maybe the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame should be changed to Music Hall of Fame.
Include Motown (Soul), Folk, Easy Listening, Pop, and the Blues...
Sorry guys I don't consider Rap a form of music!!!
I love Abba the Hollies and Genesis. But did not know Neil Diamond was not inducted yet, And Journey, Moody Blues, Chicago, Alice Cooper, Bon Jovi, Heart , wow, come on guys!! But yet the Stooges is being inducted!! Go figure!!
kiss? just a visual band. the only thing they have done worthy was take the make up off. alice cooper and journey and hall and oates. they should have been in already
The Hall of Fame is a shame. You have to kiss the presses a** to get in. What a joke.
The Rock and Roll HOF is a joke. There are so many missing bands and so many acts that shouldn't be included. Some have been mentioned above like ELO, Red Hot Chili Peppers, and Alice Cooper.
But where the hell is:
Badfinger
Stephen Stills (solo)
J. Geils Band
Harry Nilsson
Herman's Hermits
Bread
Procol Harum
The Faces
The Marshal Tucker Band
Warren Zevon
etc.
MC5
Deep Purple
Mott The Hoople
When these three bands are inducted...altho' induction into the RnR HOF has nothing to do with credibility...then I'll pay attention to it.
Til then...
Why don't they save the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame for ROCK!!! Put all the other crap into a Music Hall of Fame.
ABBA, REALLY!!
All bands like this are doing is taking a space from a ROCK Band who really deserves to be in the Hall!
They really should change the name to the Music Hall of Fame. Some of the groups that have been inducted are not what is considered Rock and Roll ( ABBA is a perfect example). While I am not trying to demean their contributions, this is the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame.
Cheap Trick is the most glaring ommission. Rolling Stone rated them as one of the Top 5 Most Underappreciated Rock Band of All-time. They have been major influences of so many bands – from punk, heavy metal, grunge, alternative – just about every genre of rock. Many of the bands already in the Hall of Fame cite them as major influences (as do many of the bands on your list). Add this to the fact that they are not sitting on their 35+ years of rock excellence, but still putting out new material and touring. Cheap Trick is what Rock and Roll is all about!
Heart...really...I cannot believe they aren't there! Along with Bon Jovi, Chicago, Hall and Oats...etc etc...
The Pixies
How about Deep Purple, Thin Lizzy & Motorhead?? Three of the most important hard rock bands of all time. Judas Priest? It took YEARS to get Genesis into the hall of fame, when they should of went in on thier first eligible year. How about YES, the fathers of prog rock?? KISS & Alice Cooper being snubbed is an insult. The Rock & Roll HOF is a sham, a disgrace to music!!
Two Canadian Bands that NEED to be in there are the Guess Who and BTO. I can't believe some of the acts in there and these two groups who continue to get airplay on rock stations are passed over.
RUSH! Definately. Moving Pictures was huge.
The progressive rock bands are blatantly missing. Genesis is a start. But Yes, ELP, King Crimson, the Moody Blues... Let's add Todd Rundgren too. They were all far more creative musically than the straight forward pop/rock song structure.
The ladies...Linda Ronstadt and Heart and Joan Jett..gee Linda Ronstadt and Heart only influenced almost every female rocker in the last 20 years..sold millions of albums and help boost those little talents like the eagles and jackson browne
Speaking of the girls who aren't in....what about Carole King???
She's in as a songwriter (w/ ex hubby Gerry Goffin) but not as a performer.
Amen, Jed! Linda Ronstadt was only the biggest female solo rock star of the '70s and influenced just about every other female rocker who followed her.
The problem may be that Linda took aim at rock from a roots/country approach, something the RRHoF doesn't favor. (After all, Bonnie Raitt's in, but she came at rock from the blues side. Then again, absolutely everyone from Ronstadt's era is in - except Linda.)
Also, Jann Wenner hates her now (after putting her on the cover of RS six times) so that doesn't help.
And you can't disqualify her for not writing her own music (not true, she has written some great songs) since someone like Dusty Springfield (no quibbles from me there) didn't write a single song in her life and you could hardly say she ever sang rock. Still, she's in.
Linda also approached rock from a decidedly male perspective, covering (and popularizing) songs by Warren Zevon, Elvis Costello, Randy Newman, Mick Jagger, Jimmy Webb, Hank Williams, Lowell George, etc., and managed to not go all soft and sweet in the process, but still retained her femininity, something that women in rock had to struggle with until she showed them how to do it. Check out a YouTube of her stomping through "Tumbling Dice" or scorching the earth with "You're No Good" and tell me what other woman could pull them off.
I don't know how anyone can think the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame validates any band's legitimacy. Rush IS the biggest omission to date and I know for a fact the fans have lobbied for years to right this wrong. Rolling Stones hates them, so there's your answer why.
The HOF is the ROCK AND ROLL HOF – not the Music HOF. What is ABBA doing as part of that? Disco is not R&R!!
The Cure, KISS were both completely influential in thier impact on the entire music scene. The Stooges while relatively unknown where the predescessor of Punk so cannot argue that. RHCP was part of the largest shift in music ever bringing Alternative to the Mainstreem.
No doubt "Rush" is the biggest snub, although Depeche Mode and The Cure are close seconds. And KISS and Frampton seem like no-brainers too. Just more political BS as usual.
Rush. Some of those bands don't have the body of work or fell into the category of unoriginal. Some of those bands aren't rock and roll enough.
Deep Purple
To me Bon Jovi and Red hot chilli peppers are a must!!! on the RNR HF ... they should be there... they are more rock bands than Abba
I say this as a lifelong fan of the genre and part time musician: the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is the biggest WHO CARES in history. Whether or not a band gets inducted is meaningless. The Hall of Fame is about the most unRock and Roll a thing I can imagine.
Chicago is much more deserving than ABBA, or Patti Smith, or probably 20 others already in only because they are trendy. Rush, Journey, Heart, Kiss all deserving, but the hall voters are more concerned about being musically correct by inducting fringe artists who had limited impact.
Doug had it right.
Styx is a band that had 4 consecutive multi-platinum albums. From 1977-1982 they were one of the biggest bands in America and Canada.
Rush has been a band with over 40 gold and platinum records, numerous awards and a world wide following.
They don't even care if they're inducted. They have much better awards.
RRHOF is an outdated ceremony that seems to have judges that are either biased, or completely out to lunch on some omissions.
Several have asked about the Stooges... they were a late 60s band fronted by Iggy Pop and are arguably (if not conclusively) considered the fathers of punk. So based on their influence with other bands (not record sales), they are a very worthy addition to HoF. Of course, every nomination is merely some small collection of personal opinions so it doesn't really matter anyway...
Boston
Most of these bands I can't stand, but I look at the list and can't imagine why any of them aren't in the HOF. Kiss and Cheap Trick seem to me to be the biggest omissions. But reality and what the music industry puts out is often at odds with each other. Just like Nirvana being named the "originators" of alternative music. Even Nirvana and the Smashing Pumpkins give proper credit to the Meat Puppets, Defenestration, and the Chainsaw Kittens.
It doesn't make a difference if you like or dislike 80's rock, which is what the hall seems to do. There is absolutely no reason why the biggest band from that decade shouldn't be in the hall and that band is Def Leppard. They were the biggest act next to Michael Jackson and they dominated that decade.
Ian Hunter AND Mott the Hoople
Let's get one thing clear. It is not the ROCK AND ROLlL hall of fame any more. I can't think of anyone further from what I call rock and roll than Madonna. That's like putting Pete Sampress in the Football Hall of Fame just because he is good at a sport. There is a difference between rock, pop, jazz, and rap- just look at any record store- so first they should change the name to the Music hall of fame. Then they can let anyone in and they do anyway.
LESLEY GORE...........You Don't Own Me was sandwiched between I Want to Hold Your Hand and She Loves You for weeks in Jan. 1964!
She had many top ten hits and paved the way for Madonna and others
Who cares? The HOF is a ridiculous waste of time and meaningless as demonstrated by the ineptitude of those in charge.
And how about Jethro Tull.
Bach.
Everyone forget about the Tubes and Fee Waybill.
Bon Jovi and Red Hot Chilli Peppers not making it in is completely ridiculous. Regardless of whether or not you like their music personally, their imprint on the culture /music and their longevity speak for themselves. Whoever didn't vote for them needs to have their credentials yanked.
"Guns N Roses, but the Hall isn't worthy"
They will be inducted but i don't think they are eligible until 2012. Be interesting seeing them all in a room together.
HEART!!!! They are one of the best female bands of all time.
I've been a card-carrying member of the RRHOF twice. I'm insulted by their choices year in and year out. I may never return.
IRON MAIDEN
RUSH by far is the biggest omission.
As a group, Rush possesses 24 gold records and 14 platinum (3 multi-platinum) records. According to the RIAA, Rush's sales statistics also place them fourth behind The Beatles, The Rolling Stones and Aerosmith for the most consecutive gold or platinum albums by a rock band.
The Pixies, who will probably never be mentioned in the place anywhere.
Rush deserves to be in. Alice Cooper too.
Weird Al Yankovic. 'Nuf said.
James hetfield read off a bunch of bands at last years HOF ceremony, many of them should be in there.
bon jovi has been playing great music, as well as helping people in NJ . He has his own foundation and has bulit houses in NJ and New Orleans. I think on that alone, they should be in the Hall. Kiss is in it's own category so they should be in. I agree that it seems the heavier rock groups take longer to get in.
RRHOF is a joke. The Sh*t for brains who vote are a bunch of clowns.
Warren Zevon!!!!
J.immy Buffet. One man genre carribean rock and roll
What about CCR and The Guess Who???
J. Geils band should be in without a doubt
Rush needs to get there sooner then later. Geddy Lee is one of the best bassist while Neal Peart can be argued as the greatest drummer of all time
Rush and Journey are by far the biggest bands to not have been inducted....Journey could sell out 70,000 seat arenas 3 to 4 nights in a row and their music still is popular to this day in movies, radio,etc...and Rush is such a revolutionary band and for only 3 guys their music is amazing.
Sad that the HOF can't respect these bands
KISS – NO
Depeche Mode – YES
The Cure – YES
Chicago – NO
Hall and Oates – NO
Rush – Yes
Alice Cooper – NO
Moody Blues – NO
E.L.O. – NO
Cheap Trick – NO
Bad Company – NO
Peter Frampton – NO
Heart – NO
T-Rex – YES
Bon Jovi – NO
Journey – NO
Foreigner – NO
Public Enemy – YES
Red Hot Chili Peppers (this was their first year of eligibility) – YES
& the Stooges are a HUGE influence on other bands that came after them, still until this day... A lot tof the bands on this list just existed, like them or not, successful or not, they left no legacy.
Joan Jett should be in too.... Love Husker & the Mat's but... Not HOF & that's by them I'm sure....
T-Rex and Public Enemy, Yes, and Moody Blues, NO ~ displays a notable lack of knowledge of rock music influences and judgement, and you expect to be taken seriously???!!
.....your list reflects the preferences of a Generation Xer or thereabouts.....I am beginning to think one had to grow up with acts like Moody Blues and Rush to truly appreciate their contribution.....
I can't believe hack outfits like the Beatles and the Rolling Stones keep getting in, but every year seminal bands like Unprovoked Moose Attack, Alien Ant Farm, and Archbishop's Enema Fetish are left on the outside looking in. And who cares about fluff news like the war in Afghanistan or the impact of the potential Greek default CNN? Keep running important stories like this guys! It's not about keeping We the People well-informed – it's all about selling copy and making profit....
JOURNEY – Steve Perry – the greatest singer ever!! I sign a petition every year for them -
The RRHOF is a joke. It's time for real rock fans to give them the heave-ho. They don't represent us.
Rush, Yes, Heart, Alice Cooper, Cheap Trick.
Madonna and ABBA made it in before any of these? You cannot be serious. Shame on the Rock Hall of Fame.
Stevie Ray Vaughn
Where is Paul Revere & The Raiders??? The Moody Blues should also be in there!
Amen about Paul Revere and the Raiders and I'm including Joe South. RRHOF seems to have amnesia when it comes to good sixties/seventies music, and southern rock in particular. Who are these people who choose the inductees? Another thing... the induction show is a damned joke; high on ego and low on entertainment.
YES! How are they not in it? One of the biggest-selling, biggest-drawing acts of their time, whose influence is still felt today.
The Stooges (also known as Iggy & The Stooges) is an American rock band from Ann Arbor, Michigan first active from 1967 to 1974, and later reformed in 2003. Although they sold few records in their original incarnation and often performed for indifferent or hostile audiences, the Stooges are widely regarded as instrumental in the rise of punk rock, as well as influential to alternative rock, heavy metal and rock music at large....wikipedia.
if Journey and Foreigner didn't exist, rock music wouldn't have noticed. I know they sold a lot, but it makes no difference.
Yes, Rush, Public Enemy, Moody Blues, RHCP should be added first.
Next tier after them: Kiss & Alice Cooper & maybe The Cure
The rest don't deserve it. The idea is that they are cream of the crop that made contributions into shaping rock and not by record sales alone.
Duran Duran, Kiss, Alice Cooper, T Rex, Public Enemy...
Iron Maiden? Judas Priest?
Paul McCartney and Wings – how can you not forget Band on The Run!
The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is an oxymoron. If you want your work to hang in a museum, learn to paint.
Rush should be inducted. they deserve it. Abba, Madonna, run dmc do not, they are not rock n roll but bubble gum pop. The jerk running the HOF should look at the history of RUSH and put them in the HOF. this band is the most talented bunch of musicians I have ever seen and they just deserve it. Everyone else has recognized it, it is about time the HOF does too. wake up guys...
Without a doubt, the list should also in that inimitable british rock band, Jethro Tull. Without them in the Hall, it's a crying shame.
Are the HoF hob nobs insane! What about Steppen Wolf, is there any one alive who does not know the words to "Born To Be Wild", hell, even corporate America uses the song all the time.
About time to induct YES
Can't believe they haven't inducted Joe Cocker!
okay,, where is Grand Funk Railroad, and why is it missing from the list. or BTO,,, or Slood Sweat and tears, just to name a fee.
I cannot believe that Chicago, Kiss, Journey, Peter Framton, just to name a few, have not been nominated! What gives? Who are the turkeys that have passed up these great groups and yet nominate The Stooges?? I don't get it.
Not on your list:
Yes
Deep Purple
Pat Benatar
Zombies
Humble Pie
Jethro Tull
King Crimson
The Zombies are in.
Donny and Marie !
What about the Bay City Rollers.......or did they get in already?
The fact that Madonna is IN the Hall of Fame, should give great comfort to all the greats who aren't. I just learned that Toni Basel got in for "Oh Mickey, you're so fine..."! Gimme a break!
If you have any clue as to the history of american rock n' roll etc.–you would actually know about the Stooges–who the hell do you think inspired many of the 'rock' acts of the late 70's and the 80's–do some research before you cock-off at the mouth!
I think Bon Jovi not being put in the mix is a huge over sight. They have been popular through 2 generations. That deserves a little something don't ya think?
Heart is the most deserving of those excluded so far and head and shoulders above those being inducted. Heart began in the mid-70's and are still packing in the crowds. One of the best rock bands still.
T.REX..Marc Bolan was ,is and will always be the "MAIN MAN"
Since when is ABBA considered more Rock & Roll than Heart, Journey, Chicago or Foreigner? The Hall is a joke and Jann Wenner is the Joker....
well said!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This pretty much sums it up after scrolling through all the comments from everyone. ABBA was huge and groundbreaking, etc., but that being said the RRHOF set a precedence for many others that we have all mentioned. PERIOD.
I agree that most, if not all, of those bands should be in. It's an absolute disgrace that Rush isn't in. They are one of the most underrated bands of all time. I'm guessing that the average age of the voters hovers somewhere around 65. Once they're dead and gone and fresh blood takes over then we'll see more of these bands voted in.
.....I think just the opposite.....the voters didn't grow up with Rush.....good "music" was Puff Daddy and Madonna.....
What about Judas Priest??
KISS was a marketing ploy. They shouldn't be on the list.
KISS is possibly the most over rated band-EVER. So the hall of fame is doing something right!
Kiss are actually underrated. Their stage show was a quantum leap in the presentation of rock and roll. You and others might not have liked it, but they also revolutionized the marketing of RnR. But a lot of people think it was only image and marketing. They are wrong. Listen to the riffs in stuff like "Strutter" and " Cold Gin" and the hooks in "Com' On and Love Me". What about Ace Frehley's lead guitar on "Shock Me" (Alive II"), Let Me Go Rock and Roll (Alive), and "Love Her All I Can" (Dressed to Kill), just to name a few? The "Alive!" album is incandescent, vital rock and Roll. And it doesn't matter how much of it was done in the studio, just that it rocks. Hard.
.....dittos.....if their music had been that great, costumes would have been unnecessary.....
The Moody Blues should have been there years ago. With Chicago in the same catagory but later.
The Guess Who
Abba? I thought this was the Rock & Roll Hall of fame, not the "Stupid Euro-Pop" Hall!
Def Leppard
Two words: Jethro Tull.
They're still making great music after 40 years!
Jethro Tull and the Moody Blues,are the reason that concept albums like the wall by Pink floyd even exist, the fact that they are not in just shows the lack of music knowledge by the board that votes.Pick up Thick as a brick or days of future past and explain to me why they are not in!!!
How do you rationalize inducting ABBA when Public Enemy, T.Rex, the Moody Blues, the Cure, and Cheap Trick aren't in? Jann Wenner is turning into RuPaul.
KISS will not get in because they want 25 percent of all admission fees from visitors. I know this because I interned there as a grad student.
The Rock HOF wants KISS to be in, but as long as the band demands so much money, they will be left out
Let me geuss Bill your a Justin Bieber fan right?.... So your saying the biggest act of all time KISS with the the biggest & most deadacated fanbase shouldn't get 25% of the take they will bring in why? How is the Beatles in then because I know Yoko bleeds every penny she can out of John & the Beatles!
Geez, just like pro sports hall of fame crap and theOscars.
This is purely to generate revenue and is a worthless form of entertainment. I'll go to the Hall of Fame(s), but I really don't care who makes it in.
Why should be care (and shell out money) about these industries slapping their own backs. In the end it is only about the money for them and their legacy.
Does anyone remember The Cars?!
The Hall of Fame list isn't complete without GG Allin!
The Red Hot Chili Peppers belong in more than anyone else on that list. A lot of those bands aren't rock (depech mode, the cure, hall and oates, public enemy), and some just never had enough commercial success to be "Hall of Famers".
RHCP have been selling out concerts, and making hugely successful studio music for 25 years. And, they largely invented the "ska-punk-funk-rock" category.
The Cars!
deep purple!!!!!!!
How about putting THE MIRACLES in? They finally got their star in Hollywood. This is the group that put Berry Gordy on the map!
Deep Purple!!!
Stooges: Larry, Moe, and Curley. Lousy musicians but hilarious comedy.
Duran Duran...? 30 Years and Counting... Helped launch the Video age.
Where is Faster Pussycat on this list?????
HEART !!!!! Greatest female mmaybe greatest EVER vocalist in Ann Wilson -End of sentence
Maybe they're holding out on these bands because they know that we're experiencing a terrible time in rock music and in 20 years there will be no one to induct if they let everyone in right now.
The Miracles who made Motown what it became are still not inducted. Only Smokey Robinson as a songwriter.
I am a HUGE Smokey Robinson fan, but the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame is a different genre of music. He should be near the top of a "Motown Hall of Fame" or whatever is equivalent in the genre of Motown. And I do mean that with all respect. I saw Smokey at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena around ten years ago.. the man had aged, but his voice was sweet and golden as ever!
For those who don't know who the Stooges are, you may know them better as Iggy and the Stooges. Influential punk rock act. INSANE live shows. Raw Power is one of the five best albums of all time. They deserve to be in the R'n'R Hall of Fame.
Why do they keep skipping Todd Rundgren? He should have been inducted years ago.
its a shame that Todd Rundgren has been left out.
POCO and the Marshall Tucker Band should be enshrined.
The Stooges were fronted by Iggy Pop I believe. Iggy's a huge part of rock history.
Guns N Roses, but the Hall isn't worthy
Joan Jett
The Runnaways
The very fact that ABBA beat any of these into the Hall of Fame makes me more than a bit ill.
RUSH is the biggest ommision. The freaking Mozarts of intense rock n roll. 3 guys that sounded more like 10 guys. Some of the most intricate and complex music that rocks to the very soul.
ABBA over RUSH, Journey, Heart, Kiss, etc? JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
no Rush = Bullsh%t...enough said.Gat your head out of your ASSES!!!
.....right on man! Methinks they should have gotten in based on the fact they are all virtuoso's on their respective instruments....
The Moody Blues for sure,their first LP "Days of future passed" was as cutting edge for the time as any other hall of fame band. The next six albums paved the way for a number of other major bands. Look past the awfully overplayed "Knights in white satin" and "I'm just a singer in a rock and roll band" to the great writing of Justin Hayward,John Lodge,Ray Thomas and Michael Pinder. Alice Cooper isn't in the hall of fame? C'mon guys!
Thank you Wiley! I don't know the Stooges either. I'm sure they are talented, but no Rush! Please. What can they be thinking?
The HOF is obviously a popularity contest, who's leadership doesn't care what Joe and Ann consumer thinks. However, they might start to care if Joe and Ann stopped going to Cleveland & cancelled thier subscritions to Rolling Stone! Kiss helped invent a unique genre in Rock that helped create opportunity for so many bands in today's pop culture. You may not like the "over the top" marketing blitz they've subjected their fans to, but you can't take away the stamp they've placed on Rock N Roll history.
When I was attending college in the 70's, there was no one bigger than Chicago, Moody Blues, and especially Foreigner. I believe Foreigner has sold more records than any other group. What does it take to get into the Hall? Oh! you can also include Alice Cooper and Peter Frampton on that list.
Forget about this list until Neil Diamond makes it. It's a joke not to have him in it. Buffalo Springfield is in the Hall and that group had a total of ONE song that ever made the Top 40.
Neil Diamond has 38 songs that have made the Top 40 chart from Billboard. He has been performing steadily for well over 40 years and is still packing in crowds.
Del Shannon and Ritchie Valens are in the Hall of Fame and their achievements are meaningless compared to Neil Diamond. Death should not be a requisite for admission.
What about Dead Kennedy's and The Misfits!
HOF Idiots. Genesis should be inducted though.... for the Gabriel era only. Rush deserves it too, BIG time.
I nominate Husker Du.
The Pogues should be in the Hall of Fame
The Smiths/Morrissey
I completely agree with you on that.
The Stooges invented punk, before anybody knew what punk was, that's why they got in.
Who are the Stooges? Really? And please don't use Chicago and KISS in the same sentence, please.
Everyone "overlooked" will be inducted eventually. They are running out of people to induct. That's why they are inducting hip hop guys, blues guys etc. Soon they will start inducting the groupies of these rock stars because they have no one else to induct. How about the Monkees next?
On another note:
Worse induction speech ever? Anthony Kiedis inducting The Talking Heads. What a terrible decision that was. Who ever thought of that one should be locked in a room with Kiedis who is an idiot.
muchogroucho
Rush not even considered induction into the RRHOF? In the words of the great George Oscar Bluth. "Come on!!!"
Chicago, no doubt. Some think they sold out, but their early stuff was incredibly trailblazing in terms of fusing horns with rock. Innovators and virtuosos on their instruments. Not to mention incredibly successful commercially. Also, Neil Sedaka. Early R&R pioneer, PROLIFIC songwriter. Deserves induction. Ridiculous he's been overlooked.
Doug,
You are right on...
Until Neil Sedaka is inducted, if ever, they should more appropriately be called the R&R Hall of Shame.
Van Halen
who are the stooges? are they better than chicago or kiss which sold milions of albums between them.
Just because you haven't heard of it doesn't mean it sucks, and also the R&R HoF shouldn't have to go by the popularity of some bands(even though I agree that the lack of KISS and Rush and others are just plain stupid.)
Wow that's a shame some of those bands haven't made it yet. All of them are worth especially T. Rex, Rush, Kiss, Cheap Trick, Heart.......I mean come on!!!
Plain and Simple – Alice Cooper....................When there are bands already inducted ahead of a band that paved the way, then you have to ask, "whos legs do we have to break to get Alice inducted".
Well since I don't know who is in the R&R H of F, I can't comment on the biggest miss. I will say that, as a huge Gabriel years Genesis fan, how could they just be getting in? Over 40 years, really?
As for the posted list, I don't think all of those deserve entry. I mean you really need to break ground, in my opinion, not just have some pop tunes. I would have to put Chicago on the top of that list, followed by KISS.
Jann Wenner has a large amount of influence on the inductees, and Rolling Stone magazine has always been down on heavy metal. Notice how many of the artists snubbed are heavy metal or have been influenced by metal. Led Zep didn't make the cover of Rolling Stone until '77, AC/DC until last year, Alice Cooper and Black Sabbath have never been on the cover.
your right about that with rolling stone dissing metal but thats nothing new . its because of idoits likethem you get a good idea all f@#@d up and you get things like jethro tell getting metal album of the year over metallica(vma's).the same sort of clulessness is happening with the hall of shame if i might quote eddie trunk.
ELO?, Hal&Oats? Journey? Foreigner? That's not even R'n'R music!That's just annoying fluff. The hall of fame may be a museum but at least they should put influential and real r'n'r musicians in there not all the crap that's spwed from mtv and commercial radio
Mmkay, well you just go ahead and enjoy your "Abba Rock"! You go girl!
Ummm, what about Meatloaf? The Bat Out of Hell series is one of the largest sellers in the world today. The Rocky Horror Picture Show is a cult classic that even today's generation can relate to. There are so many names in the HoF that don't even belong there. Something is wishy-washy about the entire selection process to me.
Bon Jovi paved the way for glam rock, the most shallow, inconsequential era in Rock&Roll. No way they should EVER be inducted, they truly were the antichrists of true Rock.
Down with Bon Jovi.
Um, glam rock was around since the early 70s. Artists like T-Rex, David Bowie, Queen, etc were influential in that genre. 80s glam rock was an entirely different affair. At least learn your rock history, man.
Then please, PLEASE defend Abba... Yeah. I didn't think so. The fact that you *probably* wouldn't defend Abba as a choice over Bon Jovi merely reinforces the position that this "governing body" has no credibility WHATSOEVER.
Biggest Snubs: DEF LEPPARD RUSH IRON MAIDEN DEEP PURPLE JUDAS PRIEST BON JOVI GUNS N ROSES MOTLEY CRUE KISS DIO
The HOF is a joke. Obscurity seems to be a plus sometimes. The Stooges, seriously? It shouldn't be all about popularity obviously, but there are some groups that have undeniably been big influences on rock/popular music in general or in their niches. Rush, Public Enemy, Moody Blues, The Cure, and how about Yes?
What about Steve Miller Band??
I don't even kike KISS but think they should be inducted.
Rush is the hugest omission from the rock and roll hall of fame in my book. They couldn't wait to put in Afrika Bambatta yet Rush and Def Leppard and Yes and Motley Crue and Styx which are all huge radio and arena bands aren't even nominated. Jann Wenner needs to be removed with his ilk.
So true about Rush. Just a COMPLETE joke the Hall of Fame has become! I went once 7 years ago and will not return until Rush is inducted. It's not just that thou. Some of the bands that have gone in is the equivalent of putting a first year NHL player over Wayne Gretzky. To repeat, just a joke!
Warren Zevon and Tom Waits seem to be worthy of getting their names thrown about for a nomination, at least. Not saying they should be shoo-ins, but these are the guys other Hall of Famers have clamored to work with, imitated and worshipped for decades.
KISS? cutting edge for their time
CHICAGO?
BOSTON! Journey! Badfinger! Alice Cooper! Styx! ELO! Chicago! Def Leppard! Bon Jovi! Motley Crue! Rush! Gerry Rafferty!
WHAT THE @##K ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT CHICAGO COULDN'T HOLD A CANDLE TO KISS ON STAGE OR IN THE STUDIO THEY HAVE HAD TWICE THE AMOUNT OFF PLATINUM ALBUMS AND HAVE BEEN AROUND LONGER. AS FAR AS THE HALL IS CONSIDERED IT IS A CROCK OF S@#T WWHAT PART OF ROCK -N- ROLL IS RAP AND FOLK MUSIC.
Steve Marriott and Humble Pie!
MOODY BLUES - not even close
Didnt look through the whole list here but did anyone mention Iron Maiden
Not to mention Three Dog Night.
Boston, Genesis, Deep Purple, Styx, Def Leppard.. (though I am not the biggest fan, even Journey). I am partial to Rush and the fact Madonna is there and they are not is really quite amusing and really it speaks volumes about the meaninglessness of it. I tend to view KISS more as 'product', but still deserving.. they really had an impact on the hair band image and really, some of the tunes continue to resonate on the airwaves are quite good..
Whoops.. Genesis is in there.. well, good on em..
All of them = Yes & of course Yes
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CHICAGO CHICAGO CHICAGO!