Smashing Pumpkins frontman Billy Corgan didn't attempt suicide over the past decade - but that doesn’t mean he didn’t consider it.
As he told Rolling Stone magazine for their latest issue, until recently, Corgan's decision-making process on many mornings was choosing between eating breakfast, or killing himself.
What saved him, he said, was his unique sense of spirituality, including an association with a group called Source Family. If that sort of conversation seems personal, it’s just the tip of the iceberg – Corgan had a lot to say about the past 10 years, including his father’s heroin addiction and where he stands on his critics.
“Do I belong in the conversation about the best artists in the world? My answer is yes, I do,” Corgan told Rolling Stone. “I’ve been too productive for too long, and despite what anybody wants to strip away from me, I am influential.”
Pumpkins fans know that Corgan wrapped a 20th-anniversary tour towards the end of 2008, with only he and drummer Jimmy Chamberlin left from the original group after the band’s dissolution in 2000.
“Rather than break up the band, what I should have done is chuck James [Iha] out,” Corgan said in the interview. “I should have just said to Jimmy [Chamberlin], ‘You go to rehab, and we’ll continue, and James, get the f*** out of here.’ Instead, I fell on my sword for James, for what I thought was a friend.”
By 2009, Chamberlin had made an exit from the band as well. Corgan says in the interview that he fired him.
The musician nonetheless remains confident that he has a place in the industry. “All the Pitchforks in the world can try to strip me of every ounce of dignity, but I belong,” he said.
Amidst the heaviness, Corgan turned to what appears to be a bright spot in his life: his “love” of singer Jessica Simpson. Corgan chose his words carefully, noting that if he used the dreaded “just friends” label, people would assume that they had been dating.
“It has nothing to do with any of that. Sometimes people just like being around each other, and good things come out of that," he said. "My goal in life is to love whoever I think is worth loving, and I think if people knew her like I knew her, they would love her like I do.”
Corgan is a self-righteous, pompous, holier -than- thou egomaniac. He needs to get over himself and realize he is no longer relevant.
I wish I was Billy Corgan or Tony Romo. Jessica Simpson would be worth it.
its hilarious how you all are judging the Smashing Pumpkins off of songs you hear on the radio like Bullet with Butterfly Wings and albums from 15 to 20 years ago. The Pumpkins have literally hundreds of songs, most of them not on records. Billy Corgan is a musical genius. Listen to his 30 minute plus jams he plays live. They are beautiful, aggressive, and completely inspirational at the same time. Ive seen a lot of bands live having worked stage security at a major venue and i can say they are musically one of the best bands ive ever heard. Of the bands of the 90's they were definitely the most musically inclined. listen to his more recent live song "Gossamer" on youtube or something and maybe you will change your mind.
@Walter: See now you are attacking me... time to look into the mirror there Walt. There is a very unhappy person underneath it all.
Has anyone for a moment considered that maybe the "Grand EGO" Billy embodies is a front?
Have you every put yourself out there for the entire world to critique? What kind of personality would you take on as you find yourself attacked from all sides?
Now consider you are not a confident person, consider every smug remark and false judgement is hurled directly at the work you have constructed, put your heart into, put yourself into. How are you going to feel then?
Sure, artists should have thick skin and be resolved enough to handle the compliments and the criticism. But if that was all it took to be an artist, then Hitler would have been a great artist instead of a dictator.
Another example of the self righteous im better and smarter than thou attitude from yet another Chicago ego. Just like the One in DC, Corgan thinks he is the chit. Hes a pompous a$$
rock is not my preference. actually my mother likes it more, so i do alot of jamming with her, and i do like it.
i agree. with your influential bands, and your comment that smashing pumpkins wouldnt make the top 500, but where do you think red hot chili peppers, or guns n roses are? how about ac dc?
BC wishes he was Kurt Cobain but is very much like Axl Rose.
Wow...he's dreaming. Smashing Pumpkins had a couple of hits, but so did so many other bands.
If I was to name a few influential rock bands from the last couple of decades, I'd probably start with:
Smashing Pumpkins wouldn't even make the top 500.
There were boatloads of more influential bands from the 70s and 60s. Jimmie Hendrix, The Beatles, Led Zep.
Everybody in the world is influential.... its the type of influence that differs. How will you influence?
Blame James, blame jimmy, blame Darcy, blame your dad, your ex. Whatever. Why dont you just go get some help. You can afford it. Theres this wonderful thing called cognitive therapy, or ACT, acceptence and comittment therapy, where you learn to accept things, like that you once were famous, talented, sounded like crap live, but made a kings ransom and should be able to cope. Corgan needs to take a deep breath. Between all the fuzz, feedback, protools effects, he was able to create a few amazing albums. That is a tribute to his writing, arranging. His singing was only good thanks to studio techs, because I have seen him live several times and without a doubt he is one of the worst live singers you will ever see. He can play a guitar, if you like loud, brash heavy feedback all the time, but when it came to making a guitar sing verses scream, not so much. Gish is a masterpiece from a percussion standpoint, and Siamese is a pop alternative sensation. Both great works. Cant be denied. MCIS has its moments, but almost 10 million US copies sold proves it hit a nerve with the right audience lends credence to claims of influence and one time greatness. Its over now, has been for some time. Get over it and prepare yourself to play local festivals now old man. Its ok. Lots of great bands have done that. Its a different world now. We have new heros that are a lot funner. Godsmack comes to mind. Better yet, why dont you just take a break and be one of us, and go see Rush, Scorpions this year like the rest of us old farts. You'll see how to end a career graciously.
I was a huge pumpkins fan in the 90s. Adore was alright but the Smashing Pumpkins really ended with Mellon Collie. Corgan is so full of himself. He couldn't even make it as a solo star so he kept the pumpkins name. His solo record was shit. I saw him live and it was horrible. This guy should stick to playing acoustic guitar and stop trying to hold on to something that is gone.
People are allowed to be pompous and make claims to being highly influential when they sell millions and millions of records. I'm sorry, but you're allowed to say that. SP was much huger than Soundgarden, sure Soundgarden are one of "the" 90's acts, but not as big as the Pumpkins were .i hate when people try to rewrite history. it is what it is. i would even say STP were bigger than Soundgarden. the only "huge" Soundgarden album was the one with "Black Hole Sun" and "Spoonman", as far as awards go (they both won awards). but that album came after the whole what i call the classic "90's phenomenom" was over. classic 90's phenomenom was early 90's, with RHCP, Smashing Pumpkins, STP, Pearl Jam, (yes) Soundgarden, and Oasis. that's it. that peaked at 95, when grunge ended. it just so happens SP had 2 of the biggest albums from the classic 90-95 era. i can't help that it's true, but it is. you can't rewrite history.
Make no mistake, BC is a talented writer/producer/artist. Hes right that he is influencial too. He influences a lot of people to think before they speak. His mouth also helps them to understand why only he is left. His ego is bigger than all his works combined influence. Hes having a hard time letting go, which is understandable. He wants that spotlight, the attention, but this is a different world. Few bands ever get that second chance at the top, i.e. Aerosmith. Let it go Corgan. Dont be a male organ.
Soundgarden was better than the Smashing Pumpkins???
Are you serious???
I could understand the argument that Nirvana and Pearl Jam were better because they may well have been.
Give me a break!
My two favorite pumpkins albums were Siamese Dream and MCIS.
I loved the Pumpkins growing up. However at the last concert he had in my area, I with about 20 other people waited outside for him and he was a complete jerk. Stopped, looked at us, then hurried to his bus....
I agree, anyone who tries to say Gish was their best album is just trying to be a cool cat. Everyone knows Siamese Dream is their best album. if you feel otherwise then you have to qualify your statement with "Gish is my favorite album of theirs". your opinion doesn't skew facts. look at album sales, if you think an album that didn't even sell as half as Siamese Dream is the better album then you don't belong in a music conversation. its easy to say "everyone else is dumb", but when many millions of everyone else all purchase the same album en masse then that should tell you maybe you don't know what you're talking about and everyone else does. the proof is in the sales: millions and millions of people can't be wrong – Siamese Dream was their biggest and best album. end of story.
They were one of the preminent bands of the 90's. Sorry, but it's true. They're in my top 10 favorite bands for sure, but I don't let that cloud my judgement of them. His voice after MCIS seemed to change, he took on a lot more of that nasaly tone more often. Whereas his best singing (or the song that best represents his singing at its best) was on "Today". His style was to mix up the soft singing with the harder/nasaly singing. In "Today", he sings (nasaly ) "Today is the greatest" and then he softly would sing "day I'd ever known". That's classic Corgan. Or even in "Disarm", that's another classic Corgan song. The last 10 years havene't had that soft counter-point. His nasaly voice is very annoying sounding. His soft singing voice is stellar.
Their first 3 albums are classic 90's (not sure when Gish came out, it's not one of my favorites but I don't own it so maybe that's why). Anything after MCIS is on the mediocre side. That style of music wasn't popular by the time Adore came out, their label must not have pushed those records as hard. Some good songs on Adore but doesn't belong in the same conversation as Siamese Dream or MCIS.
He can't sing and had 1-2 mediocre albums about 15 years ago.
you belong in the conversation of the best artists in the world?
sez who, besides you?
if ego was talent maybe...
Mediocre abilities, mediocre songs, terrible voice, ego driven = more bad music from the 90's. The only place he belongs is in the old cut out bin of would-be-wishful thinkers who believe they are rock stars or the asylum. His material has no merit he has very little to no talent. It's because of these types of "artists" that have drained rock music of any real substance and have produced scores of faceless want to be haphazard losers. Pack it up.
Isn't he getting a bit old for the "I'm considering suicide" schtick? It's not all that cute anymore.
And I really liked the first three Punkins albums, too. I'm not ripping on his music at all. I just think Dude is probably a lot less "messed up" than his persona allows him to admit.
beck, the flaming lips, brant bjork, mike patton, queens of the stone age, radiohead, ben harper...these are just a FEW of the ARTISTS that CONTINUE to experiment and make important music TO THIS DAY. Gish and Siamese Dream are INCREDIBLE records but how relevant is Corgan TODAY? oh, and his cover of 'Landslide'...ppplllleeeaaaassseee.
The Pumpkins had a couple of good songs, but Corgans voice is so incredibly horrible that only Perry Farrell's cat-killing voice from Jane's Addiction made him sound good.
So many shallow people putting down the Pumpkin's legacy because they just like to write negative things, or these don't have the intelligence to separate the music from the composer's personality. I've been a professional musican for 30 years, several music degrees, released several CDs and played thousands of shows. While I agree Corgan has an extremely irritating personality and lacks modesty, the musical and production influence of the Pumpkins is huge. Only a hater would deny that. Many talented artists have been Napoleons in the studio...Steely Dan, Fleetwood Mac, Elton John, Pete Townshend. It doesn't lessen their musical impact. Grow up and develop some objectivity.
Wow, didn't know he was so arrogant.
just wanted to note that all of you are on the comments section, while Billy Corgan is on CNN. Looks like all of you are just a tad jealous (I'm joking, you guys are WRITHING of jealousy! haha)
How come no one invited him to be on the USA for Africa line-up?
Gish, Siamese Dream, Pisces Iscariot and much of Mellon Collie were listenable. Billy, you need to wake up and answer the clue phone because your relevance has long since waved bye-bye.
It's too bad he can't go out with some class. He had his time in the spotlight and that was a long time ago. He didn't really think it would last forever did he? He should be thankful for the time and success he had and move on with his life. Perhaps he should focus on making music and not what other people think of him.
Billy Corgan is the Dave Mustaine of alternative pussy-rock. Always has sand in his vagina.
SP are influential. Yes, Silversun Pickups, My Chemical Romance, AFI, Dashboard Confessional, Rise Against...even Jack White names SP as an influence. So you can't deny their stamp on modern music. And 1979 was a classic that took over radio and MTV for a complete year. If you don't see that you are blind. He could write a song a minute. Some artist can't write one every four years. Maybe not all good. But decent. He may be a d0uche – but he wouldn't be the first one in music history. I am not the president of his fan club. But show him and his band some respect.
*** U2?? Influential to who? What a joke. ***
Wow, another genius heard from. Try pretty much every mainstream and alternative rock band in the past 20 years.
*** Some people here obviously don't like the guy but you can't say he's not talented or influential. ***
He's not talented or influential. Gee, I guess I CAN say that.
*** if productivity is the benchmark, then Wild Man Fischer and Al Yankovich are also "influential" while The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix were not...***
Uh, actually brainiac, the Beatles were one of the most prolific bands in history. They put out a truly astounding amount of music in the relatively short time they were together, nearly all of it quite good.
Billy Corgan is a weenie and a spoiled prick.My wife and I went to see the P's at Oakland during their height, "Mellon Collie". She had every album and we both loved the music. They were so arrogant they refused to play "1979". James Iha acted like a spoiled jerk throughout. What kind of " artists" refuse to play one of the main songs their paychecks come to see? Prick. Who cares dude, you're a footnote.
The Smashing Pumpkins were a blip on the radar. Anyone who has to tell everyone how relevant he is, is exactly the opposite.
Are you kidding Zero? Adore was awesome, and was additional work. What should end is his discussing women with the press. That is never a good idea. Looking forward to the 44 track release Billy, have a happy birthday on the 17th.
Smashing Pumpkins is a terrible band, the musical equivalent of a BigMac and anyone who likes their music has bad, pedestrian, taste in music.
Billy Corgan is a self-important jackass with with no talent or sense. A has-been with a huge chip on his shoulder.
I hate to hurt this guys feelings.....but I saw Smashing Pumpkins in their (ahem...) prime.
Corgin insulted the audience. Was an a$$hole, and basically wasn't very good.
Best artists in the world? Really? Really? Seriously?
Best track ever: Drown
Billy, take a look at Eddie if you want to know how to be cool...
Wow dude you're not all that. Get the ef over yourself clown shoe..
I'll bet it takes a special talent to piss off Sharon Osbourne, after all those years dealing with Ozzy. Congratulations on being that talented, Billy.
Hey Jeremy, maybe people don't like him because they actually have "taste" and "judgement"... you should try acquiring some sometime. The Nosferatu act may have been hep back when Goths weren't the laughing stock of society (which lasted for about a millisecond), but he just seems ridiculous now.
Given the drastic nosedive the music industry has taken in recent years, and the total death of creativity that has occurred, claiming to be one of the most influential artists of the past few decades isn't exactly something to brag about. So, is Billy taking responsibility for the death of rock, or is he trying to compliment himself? Perhaps if he didn't sing like a 12 year old girl, he wouldn't have to keep telling himself that he's not utterly worthless.... but "Toniiiiiiiight, Toniiiiiight" was like nails on a chalkboard, and I'll never forgive him for that scourge of the airwaves. Then again, if he can convince Jessica Simpson to lose some weight, I'll consider it.
Tonite tonite one of their greatest songs ever. Watch the MTV Music Awards version on Youtube. No song with an orchestra has ever rocked so hard. Saw them that year. Sold out show. Numbers don't lie
Billy – I want you to know that you and your music mean a lot to me. I think you are amazing. Your music got me through a lot of hard times in my life.
Dont let these hates on here bring you down.
Look at all these comments about you – it proves that you are STILL relevant and influential.
I am speaking for all the real Pumpkin fans out there.
We love you!
James Iha is one of the greatest guitarists I've ever heard. Pumpkins were never the same after he was gone.
Just the fact that are so many comments here means he is still relevant and Influential
What a megajerk. If you're the only one saying you're influential, no matter how loudly you say it and no matter how many people hear you, it's simply not the case. You contributed to something really beautiful and the band had a great run and then it ended, largely because of your outrageous narcissism.
Re: SP's greatest work, MCIS is clearly one of the most influential records of the 90s and arguably the second half of the 20th century. But the three prior albums are of superb quality and I think it is generally true that Mellon Collie would have been an ideal stopping point.
to someone who gloats that his is one of THE BEST artists in the world and influential.. I say...
I think he got himself confused with other REAL influential people named Billy..
There's Billy Joel, Billy Idol, Billy Vera and Billy The KID!
Billy Corgan is overrated, over played, and over paid!
Now Billy stop doing the "look at me, look at me thing" if you're true to who you are you would go back under the pathetic rock you crawled out from. Isn't that the opposite of the "alternative thing" Please do us all a favor and retire with grace, opps too late for that huh? It's now 2010 and your band had it's time now grow old, get more therapy and learn golf like a good has-been. Then join a reality show "When has-beens get a life"
I will vote for Billy being one of the greatest artists of our time, when my personal fave, Bea Arthur, is inducted into the baseball hall of fame
I'm with Kathleen. Yeah, his voice is not the strongest (but perfectly ok on the slower stuff), but my god, GISH transported me to another planet, back in the day. Probably the best album of the 90s (my opinion, right? maybe not yours) . Everything that SP produced since then has been a pale shadow... but the early stuff, wow, it was just otherworldly.....
Billy may be a self important ass, but he's a truly great musician.
Some people here obviously don't like the guy but you can't say he's not talented or influential.
Yo dude, you take yourself waaaaaaaaay to seriously. We all forget people at some point, and with you that took place back in the 90's. You have a face only a mother could love, so I wouldn't get picky on who you choose to love, your money only goes so far. Your band, are you still in one? Next time skip breakfast...
Billy Corgan is THE reason I picked up a guitar and still play today. He is the most influencial musician ever to me personally. He has an incredible gift for songwriting, lyrics, music, and production. I believe Gish, Siamese Dream, and Melancholy are the best albums ever made.
the most productivity ive heard out of corgan in the last ten years is all the whining hes done to cover up his stupid mistakes....
people that try to defend corgan by agreeing that he was the most influential are only speaking for themselves and the little world they live in
@cooper.... The Beatles were amazingly productive as from '63 to '70 (Their entire recording career) they released 212 songs.... many of which are absolute classics. :D
Amy: No offense but you come across as a U2 hater who has a real ignorance of the band's actual music. I'm guessing you had boyfriend who was a huge U2 fan break your heart. Either that or you take issue with Bono's activities outside of the band. In addition to the bands already mentioned you can add The Killers, who make no secret of the influence U2 has had on them.
I love Radiohead dearly but they have not always been their own influence as already pointed out. Greenwood is on record saying he saw them at Milton Keys in 85' and that it was a huge influence on him. Anyone who has listened to The Edge's guitar work at length can hear some of that being repeated on Radiohead's first three albums. I'm in no way suggesting that Radiohead ripped them of, but the influence is there in the guitar work for anyone who is willing to listen without bias – which you clearly have. That isn't to say The Edge is 100% original and wasn't influenced by anyone.
You don't make popular music for thirty years and not have some idea of the music that is popular at the time, but U2 hardly aspires to copy whatever is popular just so they can remain relevant. When excess and “cock rock” was popular in the late 80's they put out music that couldn't have been further from the mainstream and enjoyed some of the biggest sales of their career. Go figure. When grunge and gangsta rap dominated the early 90's they were big into electronic music and enjoyed strong sales throughout that decade. Go figure again. While I don't think their output over the past couple of years has been that amazing it still seems they are not copying whats being popular. If they were, they'd have ditched Eno, Lanios, and Lillywhite and would have replaced them with a bunch of slick hip hop producers...but they haven't done that either. If they are guilty of anything, it's cashing in on the bands that have been copying them for the last decade(cough coldplay cough). Seems fair enough to me.
Bono mostly shouting? I guess you didn't listen to any of their 90's output where the vast majority of his vocals were either hushed whispers or putting his falsetto to good use. Not much shouting going on there. Again, you really sound like someone hating on a band you have not even taken the time to explore. You say “they suck live as well”. I'm guessing that you went to a U2 show with that ex boyfriend not long before he broke your heart and therefore have bad memories. U2 has constantly rated high on Best Live Band polls in many publications for many years. As for myself I've seen them five times dating back to '97 and they have always put on a great show both musically and visually.
Only contribution on their first two or three albums? While “Boy” is an impressive debut and “War” got them played on American radio, the best was yet to come. Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby were still a ways away. I don't think the band itself, nor the other artists they've influenced would agree with your assessment there. Although to your credit, I did read that Billy Corgan himself was blown away the first time he heard New Year's Day, so maybe there is something to that.
As for this article, its good to hear from Corgan again. I am of the mind that Smashing Pumpkins were indeed one of the best bands the 90's had to offer. He was a great front man for that band. I'm not sure if his output outside that band, and on his own, warrants much praise though. Zwan was pretty good. Why is he hanging out with jessica simpson though? That hasn't been a good career move for anybody.
Billy Corgan is delusional, psychotic, and self-absorbed to the point of being a candidate for institutionalization. A true artist would say "Screw the world and whatever anyone else thinks of my work", not " I should be included in conversations regarding best artists in the world". Billy Corgan is the white version of Kanye West, still unable to grasp why everyone is not worshiping him. What a douche.
Besides Siamese and maybe one off Mellon I couldnt name too many songs. To beleve you were influential, yes you were as were Milli Vanilli, Vanilla Ice, Tommy Tutone and others. To even consider yourself in the shoes of 90's God's, especially the greatest, Alice in Chains, is borderline heresy. And your productiveness is the fact you havent been and we dont have to hear that crap you make.
By the way a word of advice, your claim to fame will be you nailed Jessica Simpson and of course that will be a few days after she leaves you probably for one of the Jonas Brothers
Sorry peeps, "GISH" was the best record. This guy is an has always been a seriously self important prick
weren't they that annoying sound on every radio station in the 90's?
Maybe in his own little world.
Who is this guy again?
Rest In Piece
Never bought an SP album, never will.
Nirvana was the only great band of the 90s and primarily because their music was highly influenced by 80s music such as The Monroes, Duran Duran, A Flock of Seagulls, Soft Cell, etc.
Awful conceded I would say... He wrote 5 good songs. That is all that should have been on the Smashing Pumpkins Greatest hits album + 1 good cover song. Sorry Billy. You might rate a a few thousand down on the list of most influential musicians. Must have been all that heroin you took making you thing you are so important to the music world!
The only thing good about Smashing Pumpkins was Darcy, James, and John.
If you sing the word/name "Billy Corgan" over and over again in every song by the Pumpkins you will hear the ego in William and how every song must have started as a brainstorm. Try it, not only is it funny, but so true.
Billy Corgan is as influential as Milli Vanilli.
Billy Corgan is "Influential"? Your Bloody kidding me, Right? Les Paul is "Influential" ....... Billy Corgan is a legend in his own mind.
Corgan needs to get a grip.
It's kind of a double edged sword. Without the ego most famous people wouldn't get where they are. It takes ball to pursue your dreams, especially in a field with as high of a failure rate as the music industry. Pumpkins managed to be a household name in the early 90's when some of the best bands ever were big. That says something. And who cares about influential? It is one indicator of a good band, but I don't need to be a uppity and listen to only bands that are considered influential. The goal of a band is to make good music that people enjoy. Music that influences the lives of others. I think we can all agree the Pumpkins accomplished that to some degree. Knocking a band because you perceive them as arrogant is you being arrogant enough to think that your opinion matters in the big scheme of things. The fact is if you like SP, great, life is about finding things you enjoy. If not, almost nobody in the world could care less. Like him or not, his opinions carry a lot more weight than yours in almost every circle. Go find some bands you like and stop bagging on people you dislike.
Billy, YOU are the reason why Smashing Pumpkins wasn't influential in any serious way. You are an utterly atrocious "singer", and you have the voice of a village idiot to boot. The only thing even slightly cool about Smashing Pumpkins were the guitar riffs. Everything else was a complete sick joke being played on the world by your label(s). Those weren't real songs, and that CERTAINLY wasn't real "singing" you were doing. What a joke. What a complete joke. How about some REAL NEWS here for a change?
Saw SP just before they broke big on Siamese Dream. Great itimate show. Not sure what happened after that. Billy's gone off the deep end. If he wants respect I suggest a comeback album because the last 15 years have produced little to ZERO good or influencial music.
I would have never guessed Billy Corgan and Jessica Simpson. smashing pumpkins rocks!
Screw the naysayers, his music has been a big part of my life for a long time. I have been listening to SP and Billy Corgan since I was a very young teenager. Keep hanging on, Billy. <3
Being productive and influential does NOT equal greatness. It is only what it is, and not even, in itself,necessarily a good thing.
He only thinks about suicide because every musician who kills himself or dies becomes instantly brilliant and influential and overall over rated.
Billy Corgan did some good work on a few movie soundtracks. Ransom, Stigmata, and Spun. Stigmata was incredible musically and the sounds that go with each scene works, and the music he chose and played in the movie Spun made the story flow and works....and his cameo was pretty humorous as well.
I have been a Pumpkin Fan since 1989. Billy has always been weird, the band was always in turmoil....and as a whole the 4 members of Smashing Pumpkins were great together. No two albums sound alike, they were always progressing music forward, gave away Machina II for free online, MCIS is the 90's version of THE WALL, and Adore was a great album which was influenced by the death of his mother Martha. Billy is always looking for new sounds and ways to make music and not recycle the same sound over and over again and is always changing and moving forward....i am looking forward to the release of 41 more tracks for free – one or two every month for the TearGarden singles.
who cares what the indie press like pitchfork have to say, they are uber knobs
Hmmm.....he should leave the whole "Gomer Pyle USMC" look alone; he already looks like a "Deliverance" extra without the inbred hillbilly drag.
The number of Pumpkins tunes on my list = zero. Billy-the-Ego has never been much in my book. When I used to listen to the radio I always changed the station when Pumpkins came on – Billy even whines when he sings. Sure, they had a couple of good songs, but the best part was when Billy wasn't "singing". The band was great. He's a has-been who never was. So sad, too bad...
I support Billy Corgan. People can call him all the nicknames they want or label his music but I'd like to see one of them actually play guitar write music sing and perform one of the best live shows I've ever seen all at the same time!! This guy "Bill" is very talented indeed and I dare all the people who posted here previously to name 5 people who could do this better than Mr. Corgan. I mean sing, play and perform their own songs all at once. I would love to meet him or have him listen to my music. Love, Kameron
The Smashing Pumpkins were my favorite band in high school. I became a fan when Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness came out, then went back and listened to Siamese Dream and Gish. I was absolutely, head over heels, far and away, all in for them. I didn't like Adore or Machina at all, really, but I was blown away all over again when Zeitgeist came out. It was so good. I still think that Billy Corgan has one of the greatest singing voices that I have heard (from any recent artist).
Having said that, though, I think he might want to take some time to rest, or travel, or study, or in some way clear his head. He's stressed to near a breaking point, and insecure about something. His comments here are so off-putting. So defensive and pompous. I think he is far too talented for that.
Radiohead owes a helluva lot to Pink Floyd and the Beatles (e.g. Abbey Road), among other bands. They became more original as their career progressed, and they've made a lot of great music, but saying they are their own influence is a silly cliche.
ur opinion of his music or his person has absolutely nothing to do w/ the influence of smashing pumpkins. i don't like a lot of it, but as a recording artist and subsequently someone who knows music and knows the music industry, i assure you, smashing pumpkins have influenced everything from the sonic quality to the lyrics to the attitude of much of today's music. more so than nirvana, pearl jam, or any other band of that era.
"every artist is a cannibal, they sing about their inspiration then kill it with their grief" seems a fitting line for BC.
Name one modern day artist who says they were influenced by the Smashing Pumpkins?!?!? To influence others you must take something and make it your own and bring it to a place no other band has. Pumpkins were good but so was Fine young Cannibals.
What is this guy talking about? The rambling of a has-been and a once-was. Good night, William.
smashing pumpkins were good, but influential/best artist? C'mon, MAN. Bold,shameless,delusional.
This is what is all about in any Rock Band. Break up, rumors, drugs, sex, alcohol, depression, blah blah blah. It happens again and again and the media loves that because it sells. Just like Red hot chili peppers. I love music but I don't give a damn about why, he, or she, or emotions, or events. I am just happy to download music and enjoy it. I love live music.......
Machina is their best album, Gish is derivative Jane's Addiction posing.
You cool kids can say whatever you want. Although Corgan has said and done a lot of dumb stuff in the past but I still think he makes some exceptional music. I wish him the best.
You wanna talk influential, Billy? Big Star's #1 Record was the best record to come out of the 70's, and Big Star was fantastic. Absolutely influential, ask many, if not all, of the musicians following them. How many of you remember Alex Chilton? Not too many of ya, huh? That;s what being one of the most influential musicians of a decade will get you. Nada, zilch, zeroino.
Saw Smashing Pumpkins just before Gish, at the New Years Eve show at Metro in Chicago, 89-90. A monster show, a monster band. But now, irrelevant.
Oh, and James and Billy were fighting even back then.
He also said, "Do I belong in the conversation about the best artists in the world? My answer is yes, I do."
Despite all his rage, he is still just a rat in a cage.
We'll never know how influential he is in music because the music industry along with Clear Channel and the so called Music Channels, have almost utterly crushed the genuine musical artists, whether band or solo, and have only released and regurgitated soda pop for real music.
Find a top ten hit from ten or twenty years ago, rape it of it's original mystique, have someone we've never heard of rap to it, while someone with their own established career do a cameo on the single and this is the music industry today and the last decade, regurgitated crap.
There really is no one in the mainstream that will ever come close to the genius that once had the potential to thrive.
Go underground for your music people.
The Pumpkins were a great band. Gish, Siamese Dream, Mellon Collie, and even Adore were great or at least good albums. Even Machina has it's moments. What brought the Pumpkins down is Corgans ego and his long-windedness. Adore and Machina have like 15 or 16 songs on them. Corgan was one of the most influential artists of the 1990's but his post y2k ouput has been pretty spotty. Zwan was underratted though. Zeitgeist is a joke by any standard though, that album seriously sounds soulless. I will always love the pumpkins because they were a soundtrack to my teens and early twenties but unlike a band like Radiohead Corgan didn't really grow up with his fans. His lyrics remain teenage angsty and kind of corny. Also as a fan I started to realize Billy had his head up his rear end when he started to constantly wear these ridiculous outfits on stage all the time. Plus on their last reunion tour...if you want to call it that....the pumpkins charged a pretty penny for tickets and then played all these new and offbeat songs rather than any of the Pumpkins classics......plus Corgan seems to always blame all of his other previous band members and fellow musicians for his declining critical and commerical success. Bottom line...The pumpkins were an important band of the 1990's and influential....but Corgan has fallen off artistically in a big way and hasn't really grown up it seems. Sad.
Hey Billy, I met you and your guitar pedal making friend at NAMM a while back... Your friend didn't email me, but I'd like for him to! So many pedals to make, so little time. Anyways I'd like to think you'd remember, but maybe you don't. This is such a futile attempt, but an attempt nonetheless.
It seems to me, and I'm pretty sure I've never even heard an SP song, that most of you are missing the point. 33K people commit suicide every year. His revelation about his struggle and how he was able to overcome those urges will in all likelihood help someone else. His music and his place in history is irrelevant, the fact he went public with his battle is really all that matters. If someone else's child realizes that regardless of your success, and yes even fame; that anyone can have these feelings and work to overcome them may save a life. Maybe your life or someone you love.
@ Jeff: U2 has most certainly NOT influenced anyone of note, much less Radiohead! Radiohead has always been their own influence. On the contrary, I think U2 checks to see what is popular right now before they make an album & then try to copy that sound. Bono is a terrible vocalist. He mostly just sounds like he's shouting. They suck live as well. U2's only contribution is their first 2 or 3 albums (which I don't like, but will at least acknowledge). Billy Corgan may not be putting out the kind of music that really gets noticed much anymore, but The Smashing Pumpkins have a huge catalog of really good work, & I think we have yet to see all of the young bands that have been influenced by them. People who refer to Billy Corgan as "whiny" I think are really voicing their dislike of his particular vocal style, rather than his actual voice, because he clearly has the range to do a lot w/ his voice. I have not seen the Pumpkins live, so I can't say whether his performance is up to the standard I hear in recordings.
Amy...bono is a terrible vocalist...Not influential...Billy corgan has covered u2 in concert....Thom yorke of radiohead has said to be a big fan...joey ramone and miles davis also listened to u2 while on their death beds...go back to listening to justin bieber
Sharon Osbourne said something like:
"I quit managing the 'Smashing Pumpkins' for health reasons; working with Billy Corgan made me sick."
The Smashing Pumpkins are (were?) a great band – I always wonder why they don't get more respect.
To everyone out there with some critical negative opinion of Billy Corgan, his work, his bands, and his personal life... You really should consider what you are saying about another human being and think about why you are saying it.
I've found that those with the worst to say have something unfortunate in their own lives they are trying to displace. Before you go around tearing other people down or promoting your own "very important ideas" you need to come to terms with who you are as a person.
If Billy personally has ever offended you in some life changing way and that's why you are here to tear him down, then good for you. You actually had a shared moment and you were unhappy with the result. Go ahead and tell the world how Billy Corgan made you unhappy.
If you are here to throw your wildly incomplete ideas around in an attempt to make yourself feel better about your own failed pursuits in life to be successful, popular, influential, creative, recognizable, or noteworthy you should probably take a moment and scratch the surface of why you are doing so. Chances are there is a very unhappy, unfulfilled person behind your sharp angry text. You are not much of a person, and sadly that is the direction our whole culture is moving.
Someday not too far from now no one will produce anything for people to consume that can be considered art. Ultimately there will be no benefit to doing so. The instant someone who doesn't get it, doesn't like it, doesn't understand, it becomes a target to attack and the anonymity of the internet makes it way too easy to proclaim the worst and never have to stand up to your opinion.
Its much more difficult to stare into the eyes of another person and tear them apart, try looking in the mirror and speaking candidly to yourself about your own personal issues. If you can't think of something then you are seriously hiding.
I was not a fan of the Pumpkins until MCIS. From that album forward I took interest in everything the Pumpkins and its members did. If you cannot grasp the talent that these individuals have then again you should probably just keep your mouth shut. Some of the best music ever generated by Billy Corgan is music you have never taken the time to listen to. You have probably never listened to Mary Star of the Sea. You never burned your own "Best of" CD. You cringe every time you hear one of the 6 or 8 songs that were considered mainstream releases. I'm sorry for you.
Billy Corgan is kind of like Picasso. Some people take the works and understand them on a deeply personal level, some people cast the works out as garbage and draw immediate opinions about the person that has put themselves out there in some form for others to consume.
I've personally identified and found joy, energy, anger, hate, comfort, love, disappointment, sorrow, guilt, freedom, and happiness with the music of Billy Corgan.
I am one, and I don't matter.
Corgan would probably admit that he's egotistical, but he is correct that the Pumpkins have been very influential. One of the greatest bands of all time? Probably not.
But the person who said, "Name one band they influenced" is a dolt. I can name five bands they influenced off the top of my head:
Hole; Silversun Pickups; The Killers; My Chemical Romance; Deftones.
The Pumpkins' loud-quiet-loud dynamic shifts were pioneered by Husker Du and the Pixies, but SP made the formula commercially viable. And, it's important to remember, they did it not by being yet another Nirvana ripoff, but by incorporating goth, metal, psychedelia, and arena rock, which no one else was doing at the time.
I love Billy Corgan's music, I think that even the new Smashing Pumpkins Stuff is great. However, I would not want to befriend Billy Corgan as a person. He seems a bit megalomaniacal and I do not like the way he talks about former colleagues.
The Smashing Pumpkins put out 3 of the best albums of the 90s.
Back off, all.
Billy,take a line from John Wayne: "Life is tough.It's a lot tougher when your stupid."
The 1st Pumpkins record was promising; after that, lame pop dribble under the single-minded control of the emperor of Corganland. Corgan is the best proof that even if a turd sells a million records, it's still a turd, and in this case, one with a smell that seems to hang around for years refusing to finally go away. And as for influential? File under "try very hard not to sound like this, or be this big a jerk," and you have the impact of Billy Corgan.
haha he broke up the band blaming the "britneys of the world" and now he's whining about "all the pitchforks in the world" just because his new stuff sucks
get a grip, bill. to at least some degree, youre a has-been. until you come to terms with that you're going to remain a flake.
nothing will ever take away what the pumpkins put out from gish to adore, though
Corgan still wishes he was Kurt Cobain. He is so insecure.
The Arcade Fire, as well as Band of Horses and the Walkmen, to name just a few North American bands, definitely owe a lot to U2 . . . I'm not aware of any current good band that would cite SP as an influence, but I've no doubt they were a "gateway" band into music for people who ended up getting into better stuff, like Rush was for me. That doesn't make you one of the best artists in the world, but it's still an impressive and honorable achievement, one that BC would do less to sully if he would stop complaining about it.
It's sad that personality conflicts make some of the best music.
I can't say that back in the day they weren't something special BUT a few questions come to mind....
1) Billy what makes you think you would be where you are with out the supporting cast members?? You need to look within yourself and realize you are not a one man show.
2) Would we really be talking about you right now if it weren't for this, whatever you want to call it, you have with Jessica Simpson? I hope you are not using this girl as a way to get your name out there again. Seeing how you bash everyone that might have helped you I wouldn't be surprised.
With that being said...I still enjoy listening to Siamese Dreams real loud from time to time...
Poor guy. I kind of feel sorry for him. Gish was good but Siamese Dream was way better. They topped it with MCIS. The guy is a genius. Lots of times geniuses can be too full of themselves to continue working. He self-destructed. The problem is he doesn't realize he needs everyone else more than they need him. The sooner he realizes that the more at peace he can be. You can STILL be relevant but you need to realize your gift was given to you for a reason.
The Pumpkins are very relevant today. I listen to them all the time. To say they aren't influential just means they haven't been given their due. No band sticks together forever (All Good Things Must End). Who is more influential? Nirvana? Maybe. Alice n Chains? No way, so who else? Bottom line: if Billy makes any album (even without the Pumpkins) I WOULD still buy it.
He is completely right although most people would wait for someone else to say it about them. He is and was extremely influential in rock music and as we see with music the decade or two later, he will be influential to young bands in the next 10/15 years who go back through the archives to see what has gone before them and rightly so.
You can barely pick a pre-split Pumpkins record without at one stunning track. His solo album was a farce but heh-ho we all make mistakes.
Best pumpkins track ever? MAYONAISE
"Worst singing voice.. ever."
– think that would go to Geddy Lee
The Smashing Pumpkins have been influential to over 9000 bands.
Uh......influential??!! Give me an example of who they influenced and the results. Gimme a break.
Corgan never impressed me. He has very, very little talent, and even less common sense. He was a product of MTV. Without them, he would be bagging groceries.
Dude...you are a has-been frontman from a has-been band that was sort-of popular almost two decades ago....And even then anyone who saw Smashing Pumpkins back then would agree that they were the worst live band ever to see in concert. Get a life. Influential....hahaha how long you gonna ride THAT scooter?
The pumpkins were one of the best bands of the 90's. They laid down classic tracks. (Disarm, Bullet with Butterfly Wings and 1979 will be played forever.) Some simple but great riffs. (Zero and The Everlasting Gaze come to mind.) Had two albums that rank among some of the best. Rolling Stones words not mine, but I happen to agree. Billy's voice is one of the most unique in rock. It's no secret that Billy is a jerk. Billy sounds terrible live. They don't sound great live now. I've seen clips while touring for Melancolie and they sounded good and were cohesive. No they are not relevant now, but they are defiantly influential. If you discuss rock in the 90's the pumpkins have to mentioned. Like them or hate them, that's just the way it is.
Billy Corgan, Smashing Pumpkins, U2 = overrated, self-indulgent, pretentious crap. I'll say it again....crap.
reading that sure makes me wanna hear James Iha's side of the story.
Smashing Pumpkins influential? Debatable. Does he influence crappy musicians or talented musicians? Billy Corgan is definitely living with his head in the clouds. But no means is he one of the "best artists of the world."
And for his relationships: Courtney Love to Jessica Simpson? He sure knows how to pick them...
Billy, you are not one of the best artists in the world and you are not all that influential. Sorry.
Billy Corgan = Rock God.
Why to people have to be so petty? I'm not a huge Pumpkins fan, but am disturbed by all the meaningless and mean comments.
You go Billy. Proud of you for not letting your demons get the best of you.
This Corgan guy is much like Ozzy and Bon Jovi. Just because they are still around and won't go away doesn't mean they are anything more than hanger – ons. I bought Black Sabbath's Paranoid 8 track tape as my first mobile toon. It was good. Their sound was good. But that doesn't make a decrepid old fart good 35 years later. Corgan should go away too. He's not relevant.
Worst singing voice.. ever.
he definately ISNT jimmy page. he's not that great of a guitar player..
he's kind of a hack (like billy squire)
If anyone knows anything about the Smashing Pumpkins, they would know that Siamese Dream was mostly Corgan and Chamberlin. They had their influences from the late 70's and early 80's brit new wave movement but they have also influenced many bands after them. Billy Corgan is a true artist. And as with a lot of artists, they are ****ing crazy. In todays music world it is hard to remember any musical act after 2 years (try naming 3 American Idol winners). But it's 20 years after Gish and he is still in the business and still making news. Not bad.
Very talented guy for sure. Consumed by his own blather, though. His career is a paradox: If he were not so serious about being "The Great Billy Corgan," he might have, in fact, been great. Instead, he's a jackazz.
Influential...to some maybe. Siamese Dream was a great album from a great band. Not the Pumpkins cover band he is leading right now.
Belongs on list with the best artists in the world. I THINK NOT!!! He couldn't even be a roadie for the best artists. A little humility might do him some good. He had jessica Simpson, good for him. Seriously he needs knocked down a peg or two. I saw James Iha with A Perfect Circle with a way more talented and influential bald guy named Billy. Iha was a good fit with that band and was great live.
BC and the SP are not influential. Maybe he's a good guitarist at best. They sold all of those records because of all the poor me, flannel wearing, i'm to scared to do heroin so i will just say i do but smoke pot instead grungers. they needed some music to cry too because nirvana isn't around anymore, and i want to buy what might be the next big thing so I can say i was a fan WAY before they were super famous.
If they were so influential no kid in their teens would have to ask who sings bullet with butterfly wings.
SP suck. End of story
"Despite all my rage I'm still just a rat in a cage" is such a great line. This guy is crazy but he was a great artist in the 90's. Siamese dreams is top 5 album from the 90's as well and will stand the test of time. Every song on that album is great. And if you play it with the original fantasia( start the album just as the conducter gets to the top of the podium) its really creepy.
they had some decent stuff, but they also put out a lot of really lame songs. "bullet with butterfly wings" is beyond cheesy. His vocal ability is pretty marginal, the lyrics are pitiful- "despite all my rage I am still just a rat in a cage". I don't know, I always thought of the smashing pumpkins as just another band. Nothing they did really separated them from anyone else, nothing ground breaking. I don't agree with them being influential and don't see why thats something to brag about anyway. Since the mid-late 90's, the majority of music thats been put out has been total garbage, so why is he trying to take responsibility for that? Theyve always had problems because he was always rumored to be an egomaniac, and making statements like this kind of proves it. Just another band that came and went, nothing special.
It wouldn't surprise me if Smashing Pumpkins were first-ballot inductees into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. I'm not implying that they'd be deserving, but that hasn't kept a few bands and artists from being inducted.
Billy, please contact me about your keyboards.
Several are done being repaired and your email is no longer good.
l think every smashing pumpkin LP is great, my taste is for adore and the darker b-sides, his solo album is great.... just let the man say what he wants about the past. its not like he dose't know what year it is....he knows that its 2010 and the 90's are over.... let him make free music and chillout with burned out califorina blonds. hell its great that hes making free music.... rock on brother
Siamese Dream is a masterpiece that belongs to the cultural heritage of the nineties. I still play it loud on a regular basis and will do it untill my time has come. It surely influences my little life – and millions of other people's life. Thank you for that, mr. Corgan. And keep in mind: a depression will disappear sooner or (years) later, although the essence of a real depression is that one doesn't believe that, and that all hope for a cure seems to be gone – as I experienced my self. Keep your head up high, fight back and try to do the things you really want to do. Action is the only cure. Good luck.
I suppose if CNN and Rolling Stone are still running stories about him fifteen years after his last major album then he can lay a claim to some sort of influence.
But the question isn't his influence – he thinks he belongs in a conversation about the best artists? No. Three solid albums of a goth/alternative rock fusion that was ultimately a creative dead end is not greatness.
Billy Corgan is one of the best song writers of the '90's. It is too
bad that he has to say a word about where he stands as a artist.
The Smashing Pumpins will stand the test of time on their own merits. Billy's personal life is his own business it is sad that Billy
feels he has to bring that topic up for publicity.
Love you Billy go back to writing your beautiful lyrics.
Siamese Dream is one of my all time favorite albums. I love every single song. However, listening to him live makes my ears bleed! His voice live is horrible. I would certainly not call this guy influential now, maybe back in the 90's. I think I would like him more if he got off his high horse and realized he has not had a hit song/record in the last 10 or more years. That being said, I still love blasting that CD in my car! Oh, and Jessica Simpson? Random!
Your 15 minutes were up a long time ago. Jimmy Page you are NOT.
What a tool. I would rather pour molten lava into my ear canal than listen to one more word from his mouth. The way he trashes virtually everone who helped him become successful demonstrates what an immature, selfish, egostistical choad he truly is.
His voice sucks!
I grew up on my love for the original band. Reading articles like this is deeply saddening. It's like watching a train wreck that involves your fallen hero. "As all things must surely have to end" (Muzzle), the band should've been left behind in 2000. R.I.P. memories of the once great Smashing Pumpkins.
"with only he"? "With" is a preposition. Should be "with only him." Arrggh.
@john U2 not influential? seriously?
radiohead, coldplay, probably half of the british rock band of the last three decades...
modern U2 doesn't do much for me, but you can't deny how big and influential they were in the 80s.
And there he sat, in a sea of insanity.
Don't own a SP CD, but it's obvious Corgan is influential. No doubt. Anecdotal story: Befor the breakup they were doing a few small clubs, about 30 people were camped out in front of my town's little venue very early in the morning. Billy came by, and took them all down the block to IHOP for pancakes, returning them to the front of line afterwards.
real music fans don't blog they listen to music
If you have to announce that you're "influential," you're just not. Stating so just compromises that statement's validity. It's like telling people that you're "famous"–it should be understood.
Breakfast is over-rated.
F the haters. Pumpkins are epic.
The band peaked with Mellon Collie....all the stuff since then and the crap he made sans Pumpkins sucked. You can't kick everyone out of the band and be the Pumpkins.
You also can't categorize yourself as influential when Iha had the better chops, my friend.
The Pumpkins were one the the largest and most influential bands of the early to mid- 90's. With Gish, Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie and The Infinite Sadness were three powerhouse albums, and their influence can't be knocked. But, Corrigan hasn't put out a meaningful album in 12 years, with either the Pumpkins or Zwan, so a lot of people forget what The Pumpkins contributed to the music scene.
Never listened to Smashing Pumpkins. However, all of the people I know personally who are hardcore fans of the band are whiney, simpering emo crybabies. Maybe it's just coincidence....maybe it's not.
If you compare the Pumpkins to other bands of their time (Nirvana, Pearl Jam, Sound Garden, etc.) you really see that they weren't that great.
Mello Collie sucked. Siamese Dream was so so. Gish was pretty good. Everything else was just crap.
Oh, and Billy is way too much of an egomaniac, so I'm kind of glad he's faded into obscurity.
There are two different kind of super stars in this world; the ones that know they are good and let everyone else tell them how good they are, then there are the ones that know they are good and feel the need to vocalize how good they are. Corgan is definitely a major influence in my life. Gish came out when I was in high school and hte next two albums were a constant soundtrack to my late teens and early twenties. Unfortunately, Billy had the ability and the funding to go a lot longer than he should have. The Pumkins were great. Billy was the brain piece. but after 2000 they were still nothing more than a great band from the 90's. Fading off into mediocrity is hard, and Billy seems to refuse to do so. But ask anyone about the pumkins and none of them will refer to them outside of grunge decade. All the respect in the world to James, Jimmy, and Darcy. Billy is just a bit out of touch and will continue to embarass himself for years to come......and Jessica will continue to embarass herself everytime she's with him.
The Pixies are influential. Pavement is influential. Radiohead is influential. The Smashing Pumpkins appear to have only influenced the Silversun Pickups. Billy, please just give it up already!!!
Good lord, Corgan is 110% full of himself. Yes, the Smashing Pumpkins were amazingly talented and influential upon so many facets of modern music. In fact, the signature tones and licks that Corgan came up with can still be heard today in pop songwriting (Silversun Pickups anyone?). However, after 2 decades of interviews similar to this, it just seems like Billy Corgan is a pompous ass, and I couldn't imagine having everything in the world- talent, money, fame... and not have humility. By the way Billy, it should have ended at Mellon Collie. The first horse was dead and beaten, so you went to the next farm and stole a new horse, only this time you had no drumsticks so you beat it with a drum machine.
Hey, Gish and Siamese Dream were outstanding albums. MCIS has it's moments, but it always comes down to the personalities assembled.
That band was a mess even before Gish came out. Personalities clash, egos get bruised and toes get stepped on. Why does he think his experience was different than any other band that was or is now?
BC is a talented musician and song writer, but please Billy, it's not up to do to decide whether or not you are influential. That comes with time and if you think any of the "music" that is being produced and released today had anything to do with you, then great.
But the garbage that is out there now, is nothing you want to be associated with or given credit for.
Quit trying so hard to be relevant in the past and just concentrate on moving forward and not looking back.
Siamese Dream and Mellon Collie are two of the greatest albums of the 90s, and Adore was groundbreaking. SP are an innovative and accomplished band that managed to be artistic and mainstream. Billy even overcame his nasally, non-commercial voice because of his awesome song-writing and guitarwork. And he was definitely influential as well as prolfic.
That being said, the man needs to stop being so vitriolic in all of his interviews. Is it really every single person around you who is screwed up, Billy, or can you take the blame once in a while too?
It's sad how people love to tear down anyone brave enough to put themselves out there. Billy Corgan has more ambition and a greater work ethic than 99% of all other Americans. Look at his career: over 16 million albums sold over nearly twenty years. That didn't happen on accident. It happened because Billy Corgan is an exceptionally talented man who has doggedly pursued his goals.
Billy is a genius and the Smashing Pumpkins were extremely influential. I'm not so sure about his taste in women...
He's a talented guitarist, but his voice is whiny, and their songs stink.
He's a tool bag! He should induct himself into the Billy Corgan hall of fame so that he can admire all that he has done. He pales in comparison to his contemporaries Yorke, Tweedy & Cobain.
"um, U2 self promotes more than any other band in history and they are considered one of the most influential bands in the last 30 years."
U2?? Influential to who? What a joke.
BC & SP's persona – even if not the music – has obviously been influential or there would be nothing to debate. BC has also produced a staggering catalogue of quality material (including, for better or worse, a substantial number of mainstream hits), has attracted to himself some of the most talented performers in his genre (Dave Navarro, Kenny Aronoff, David Bowie), and maintains a level of credibility and respect among musicians that eclipses the majority of his peers. This aside, the fact that he continues to compose and perform new material of his technical and artistic caliber puts him in the minority when compared to other artists with careers on a concurrent timeline. It's a travesty to minimize BC's influence or stature as an artist on the basis of his personality or a personal stylistic preference.
Wait what? Corgan thinks that he should have booted iha out sooner?? lets be real here....corgan is a guitar prodigy and definitely the core of sp BUT iha was a much larger contribution than chamberlain every was. chamberlain was a joke. this is the order of significance to the band: corgan, iha, darcy, and LAST chamberlain. Corgan can get too high on his horse as we all know and definitely could not by sp without iha (reference: zwan, sp (remake), solo album.....all terrible).
o.k. so what is jessica simpson's goal? to date as many different types of people as possible?!
one of the most over-rated bands of the 20th century. Influential? I think not. Point out one band these clowns have influenced. Cobain was influential. Corrigan is self-absorbed. And whiny.
Adore is their MASTERPIECE. Billy IS a genius. End of story.
Gish/Siamese Dream/MInfinite Sadness were his and the Pumpkins best 3 albums but became derivitive with their later albums. Great music but Corgan is a jerk. I remember seeing the Pumpkins at Lollapalooza and they were booed offstage. The crowd chanted for the Beastie Boys to return to the stage throughout their terrible performance. Corgan has a fairly weak rock voice in person and his rock screams ended up being nails-on-the-blackboard screeches. It was one of the worst performances I have seen, only losing to David Bowie on his Glass Spider tour. Ugh.
i've always been a pumpkins fan and met corgan twice...waited all night for a signature on machina's poster...however, i will say this...
billy thinks he's god when it comes to music...i had also won tickets to meet the band zwan when they were in mpls...both times, he was a prick and drama queen...the pumpkins were great and they still would've have been if billy wasn't such a control freak and a drama queen with a crabby attitude that shined so bright!
Who do these "artists" think they are? Why are they so important and why would you consider killing yourself? Spoiled babies. Go create something, call it art, get emotional and hope people care. Who cares? Look in the mirror and realize you are only the person staring back at you and toughen up. Work for a living instead of thinking you are better than the rest. Artists=no self confidence. Get a job.
Anyone that says Gish was a better album than Siamese Dream better have really loved Tristessa, rhinosaurus, or I am one.....otherwise you are just trying to be a hipster that only likes things that aren't "mainstream" yet. BTW...that logic doesn't work because it took Siamese Dream to make them mainstream. The merits of the following albums vs. those intial two are pointless.
Adore was their BEST record.
MCIS was their most relevant album.
Billy Corgan was one of the most influential musician for the 90's and the alternative rock.
Don't mess with these facts!
James Iha's solo album is brilliant.
Smashing Pumpkins were great until Billy got weird.
He certainly is influential, and that's something that no one can take from him. All of you people that said he produced two 'awesome albums' are proof. He may no longer be relevant and may not be among the greats, but the Smashing Pumpkins have touched our entire generation.
if productivity is the benchmark, then Wild Man Fischer and Al Yankovich are also "influential" while The Beatles and Jimi Hendrix were not...
Billy Corgan is one of the biggest musical influences of my generation. He managed to sell tens of millions of albums despite his "nasal" voice, his many trials and tribulations of band mates, and the industry flipping from true artful expression to auto-tune heavy crap pop.
Say what you will about the man – I am sure lots of artists were considered a-holes by their peers – but his music lives on and inspired countless souls to pick up an axe and turn it up to 11. Thank you Billy for inspiring me.
@johnq - um, U2 self promotes more than any other band in history and they are considered one of the most influential bands in the last 30 years.
Gish was the only album that mattered, regardless of how it sold on the market. The junk they spit out for their mainstream years was poo poo compared to Gish. If he thinks that he was one of the 'heavies' from the day, wow,....hes confused
Smashing Pumpkins were relevant for at least 15 minutes
Gish and Siamese Dream – awesome albums... but everything after that? Not so good... and certainly not influential. And the band would probably still be together if it weren't for your narcissistic personality and Napoleonic complex.
If you have to shamelessly self-promote, I'm sorry, but you're not that influential.
"All the Pitchforks in the world can try to strip me of every ounce of dignity, but I belong,” he said."
haha.. didn't he do that to himself? don't blame the indie press for your shortcomings, pal.
You should have ended Smashing Pumpkins with Mellon Collie.
That was the perfect band-ending album, right behind Abbey Road.
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