Judges pummel 'Dancing' star

Samba is always ridiculos.....i am from Brazil and The Samba in DWS with american music is HORIBLE...why with tango from Argentina, they respect the correct music and with samba, no??

I think Len Goodman is a closet racist who decides who his favorite is early on, and they don't usually include people who don't have blonde or brunette hair. I've watched over the past several seasons him pick apart any black dancers who try very hard to please him and it never works. Why are is there always such a distinct difference in his scores for Mya than from Carrie Ann and Bruno. Are they watching two difference dance routines. I don't get it. No matter what she does, he is never satisfied. Just my thoughts,,,but I could be wrong who knows.

The Samba is ridiculous however the judges' critique of Mark Dacascos and his week-old dance partner appeared more like a verbal assault. A strange brew of jealousy, old ego and wonder lust; not likely to appear in the kitchen of Iron Chef anytime soon!

What does Len Goodman have against Mia?

I don't think it is fair to have him judge; hopefully this will be his last year.

He seems to have good things to say about so so dancers, but as in the past, and now picks on the good ones.

My wife and I think Mia could win it all if it were not for brain dead.
WAT

Thinks Bruno is PMS'ing and Len is taking tranquilizers.

While I do not know if I would go so far as to say that Len is racist, it is quite obvious that the judges decided early on who they wanted to stay and who to go this time. M'ya is ridiculously talented and was infinitely better in the dance competition round last week but—not surprisingly—was tapped out before a certain bikini model... Perhaps the idea of a bikini clad dancer is simply (mentally) inescapable? The judges were so very kind when Joanna's partner was sick and she had to dance with a new partner...strange that Mark did not receive the same kindness...

For once, Aaron Carter n partner Karina Smirnoff didn't get some slack from the judges. Aaron never seems able to please them no matter how good he is. Kelly O appears to be a firm favourite and so does Hough's partner. Anyways, I hope the voters see the light! I wouldn't want to see Aaron voted off unfairly.

I agree with Ruth, I think that Len has a problem with Black women.
Mya tries so hard to please him but he is always slamming her saying that he does it because he knows that she can do better and then. THen he turns around and praises Michael when he should have been voted off long ago because he can not dance at all.
He definitely is not Emmitt Smith!

I was not impressed with Joanna and Derek's dance. I didn't think it was "dancing" at all. I was also suprised with the remarks and scores for Kelly. I thought while she was dancing you could tell she had so much trouble with the routine. I thought her scores should have been less. Everyone did fabulous in the group dances. I loved them all.

I think that it is time for Michael and Mark to go....no because i am a racist, but because they are not keeping up with the pack...it is sad when the race card has to be played for something as entertaining as this show....I guess, no one remembers Helio, Kristi and Aton.....

Alot of the music on "Dancing with the Stars" which is chosen for a particular dance is garbage. Also,the "ballroom" version of some of the latin dances sometimes only vaguely resemble how those dances are performed in their countries of origin. I am latino who has grown up with some of these dances. I think I can talk with some credibility.

The amatuer "stars" try hard, but the show is basically a popularity contest both on the part of the judges and the audience. "So you think you can dance" on another network is a far superior show. There is great dancing, choreographed by professionals, and danced by young men and women trying to break into the professional ranks. The judging is done by established professional dancers and choreographers.

Kind of funny what I'm reading about racism. I am not however, I feel a little reverse racism every time that female judge opens her mouth. For instance, I love the Cowboys and Michael Irving, yet last week the snow boarder went home, guess who sent him home? Personally, I thought his talent and tricks and movement with chelsey was better than MI. Maybe if we all leave race out of it one might say it's all a matter of opinion. I'm okay with that, hence, the racist comments about Len should also be removed from this thread. Personally I think Len is the most fair and reasonable judge... again, just my opinion.

Regarding Len's treatment of Mya – I've wondered whether it might be racial too, but I really think he has something against her partner. Dmitri seems to purposefully choreograph things that he knows will set Len off – like excessive use of props and little "skits" before actually dancing. I think if Dmitri might be sabotaging her on purpose. Or maybe just being passive-aggressive regarding Len.

Two points:

1. I have no clue what is going through the heads of the judges' scoring this year. It makes no sense to me. Mya's worst is better than some of the others' best, but yet she gets scored down while they get scored up?? I'm so confused! (BTW, couldn't stand Aaron up until last night, I'm glad he FINALLY had a good night and deserved the scores he got.)

All that sad...

2. I think the judges should be harder this season. This group is NOWHERE near where past seasons have been at this point. In the past, by this point, I was sad because I thought everyone was awesome and no one deserved to go (except for that really really bad dancer who has managed to sneak by each week, but now is so obviously worse than the others, it's finally time to go.)

At the end of the day, I am underwhelmed by this season. I'm so happy that SYTYCD is on for a Fall season. Now there is talent!

I like watching this show, but it is obviously 'fixed' in some ways. Who gets which partners, who gets which dances. Mark hasn't even done a waltz or a tango yet, some of the highest scoring dances for the men. I am familiar with Mark Dacascos as I train the same martial art he does and I'm a big Iron Chef fan. I think he got screwed from the start. He is by FAR the most talented male star on the show and has better body movement and flexibility then most of the women! He seems to always get so-so or bad choreography, but you never hear the judges complain about his footwork or timing. Additionally, his choreography tries to make the most of his martial arts moves, but those moves don't always fit the dance style! I wish his partners would stop doing that!!! His dancing is great without the butterfly, reverse butterfly and cyclonic kicks. I really hope Mark at least gets the chance to dance to stay on tonight because when he has a good night, he is FANTASTIC!

Bruno is the racist! How can he call an Asian man "Kung Fu Panda" and no one raise an eyebrow! How inappropriate!

I think Michael and Aaron should go home, I like Mark Dacascos and yes the judges were way too hard on him last night. As far a Len's scoring for Mya, I'm clueless why he's scoring her so low. She's by far the most talented this season and should win it all, how in the world could he give Michael higher points then her???

Oh, come on. What is this talk of Len being racist? That is so stupid. I think Len is just picking up on the fact that Mya is full of herself and over-confident. The general public does not really like that, a little humility goes a long way. However, she IS good, but she has to not take anything for granted. Other dancers better than her have gone home in the past. Personally, I don't know why the Olympic swimmer was voted off. She had it all, but she was mad at her partner, not sure why, and the audience picked up on it. I think all dancers that have to use a replacement should be given a little break. The judges are a riot, you never really know what they will think. As it should be.

Len has been scoring Mya low from day one and it's ridiculous.

I'm surprised that no one has addressed the unbelievably unbearable Donny Osmond – is it just me or do the judges kiss his behind like there's no tomorrow? I'll grant that he's done a respectable job for the most part, but he’s certainly not the best dancer out there this season. The way the judges gush over him and his showmanship is ridiculous. I don’t think there’s any stand out performer in this group, perhaps with the exception of Mya. There’s been very little consistent improvement without a week where someone backslides for some reason or another. I agree that Len's judging has been very uncharacteristic all season – he's generally been the tough guy, but it seems like all the low scores have been coming from Carrie Ann. Michael Irwin needs to go, neither he nor his partner light up the dance floor. And, though she’s got lots of charm and personality, I think it’s time for Kelly Osbourne to take a bow as well, I think it’s fairly clear that she doesn’t hold a candle to rest of the group. Of course, that’s just my opinion.

This is the worst season of Dancing with the Stars. The fact that the season started with 16 dancers (a majority of which were HORRIBLE) was an immediate red light. I'm having a hard time keeping my interest. The love afair with skinny model types (Joanna Krupa, Stacey Keibler, Brooke Burke, etc) is nauseating, Len's slamming of great dancers (Mya) makes me want to throw a 'biscut' at him and overall judge scoring inconsistencies has completely turned me off. And can any show kiss the Osmond family behinds more than this one?? I don't think so.

I agree with the person who thought Kelly and Louis were overrated. That was not much of a salsa at all that they did. Louis is a better choreographer than that, but I think he was trying to compensate for Kelly and also to make her feel more comfortable. It fell flat. I really thought their scores were going to be in the 7s and 6s.

And I too dislike Mya, her over confidence, and from my perspective as a dancer, at times her steps are too big and not neat and tight as they should be. Dmitry should be correcting her there.

And Aaron and Karina did a great job last night. And kudos to Aaron for his hard work, determination and for his taste in costume design.

As far as going home tonight, it should be Kelly (even though I know and agree she is adorable and charming) and Michael Irvin. I think they are the two weakest dancers of the group. Mark had one bad night, at least according to the judges, but he doesn't deserve to go home. He has improved tremendously over the past few weeks, plus he has no dance background as far as I know. That's quite an achievement.

I too am beginning to think that Len has something against black women. I think Mya is amazing , sexy but in a classy way.
Joanna comes across as slutty, I don't know what it is about her.
As for the music, I hate the band they sound like crap and their timing is always off.

Michael and Kelly have both stepped up their game and are becoming quite good, but everyone else is better than them. Whoever goes home at this point, it will be hard to take. All the couples left have the potential to win. Sigh....I hope Mya wins.

I am so sick and tired of the racist tag being thrown around.
Len's judging has always been more traditionally demanding than the other judges. When things go your way, you don't say anything, but God forbid they don't, they pull out the race card. Grow up people.

I don't watch DWTS for superior dance technique; we have SYTYCD for that. This show is for entertainment, and the people I want to see dancing are Kelly, Donny and Mark. Agree with the poster who said that Len is voting against Dmitri, not Mya. He says it straight out that his personal taste in dancing moves his paddle. Allegations of racism are nothing short of disgusting. Of course the show is a popularity contest! Bet you Donny will be in the final three, because he's entertaining and a fan favorite, NOT because he's white.

I am displeased with Len's scores of Mya so far this season as well. Yet, I will say this, I do not think he is racist, I think that he scores her low for two reasons. One he does not seem to like her dance partner's routines and two he keeps making the comment that he has set the bar high and she needs to rise to it. Basically saying he knows she is very good, but he expects better. Not that I agree with Len, but I think that is where his scores are coming more from than the racial aspect. As for my favorites, I really like Mya, Mark, and Donny (after reading the last blog from Lola I am a little scared to say that But in Donny's defense, I hope to have the agility, stamina, and energy he has when I am that age. The person that I think should go is Michael Irving, even though I really like his personal characteristics, kindness, sense of humor, and all around good guy attitude, I feel that his dancing ability does not compete with the others and this show is to find the best celebrity dancer. As for the second dancer I am unsure, I think Aaron Carter is overly dramatic for my taste, but he is a good dancer and by saying I would want him to go based on personality would contradict my statment about Michael Irving. So I guess I will just have to wait and see!

Len is not racist. Remember how hard he's been on Aaron this season? Remember how hard he was on Ty last season? Part of this whole contest is personality, not just dancing ability – just like American Idol is not all about singing ability, but stage presence, too. Judges can just not like somebody. I'm the same way. I don't like Mya and Joanna. They've turned in good performances, but I think Mya's dances all look the same, and I think Joanna has as much personality as cardboard – and Derek's choreography is capitalizing too much on her sex appeal, which is masking her lack of dancing ability.

No stand-outs this season. Osmond has the best all-around talent, but this season is definitely way behind last season.

I think Lola has no idea what she's talking about. Donny is going into the finals, and will probably win. She needs better taste. And kiss his behind??? I'd love to!!

I agree with Lola, first they shouldn't let any stars who have had previous dancing lessons on the show. Donny Osmond has danced and sang all throughout his life. Of course he looks better than the rest.
And the men should be graded different they have to lead in the dance.And please pllleeease, have the music fit the dance!

The Samba is my least fav dance on this show, next to the Mambo. And last nite, I LOVED Mark's Samba!! I should've known those judges wouldn't like it.

The music doesn't always match the dance that is being performed. I am amazed at the choices on certain occasions.
Donny Osmond & Mark Dacascos are the likely ones to be eliminated on Nov. 3, 2009. Kelly Osbourne also sucks for the women and won't make it to the finals.

Best wishes, Carolee

I also don't thick Lynn is a racist. Mya has sang and danced for years, so she should be held to a higher standard. The rest of the group has had no formal training. Although he has improved, I thick Michael is by far the worst dancer of the group. Lynn does judge by two different standards....the better dancers are judged by their technical ability and the poorer dancers are judged by their abilities to "entertain and charm". One tiny slip up by the better dancer is judged harshly, but the poorer dancers can miss several steps but still get praise for "working their way through it" (i.e. Donny Osmond). Donny has not improved much from his first week of dancing, but they still kiss his butt because they know he is the fan favorite. Bruno is usually pretty funny, but lately he has gotten a little carried away. I'm not a prude by any means, but yikes, sometimes he gets a little too "lewd."

Missed last night's show, but I think Joanna is HORRIBLE! Have thought that from the first show. What was all that last week – didn't show her dancing ability. I think one of Len's problems is that he forgets he is looking at amateurs learning to dance professional with professionals. Mya and her partner are very good, but not good enough to make Len see that there is an amateur and a pro working together. I don't think she is over confident; I think she may use that attitude to push herself knowing that she is not a professional dancer, but a singer. Donnie is far better than the big mouth sister of his; Michael needs to take Joanna by the hand and wave goodbye to the show.

racist come on?!?!? len adored laila ali and mel B. in previous seasons. he's making the obvious best celebrity earn her points and making her pro do a better job on the routine. bottom line.

final three will be mya, joanna and donny. derek will come up with better choreography and joanna will take the trophy over mya.

I agree with Len on his comments about Mya. She seems overconfident and does not get emotionally involved like all the other dancers do. While her technique may be good most of the time, there is a disconnect between her and Dmitri. As far as favorites, Carrie Ann conveniently "didn't see" the lift that Mya and Dmitri did a couple of weeks ago. She thought they did one and then turned around and gave her a 10. If anyone else so much as lifts their toe, she's calling for a lift. All of the other dancers are putting their heart and soul into the dancing. Mya does not seem to be.

As far as not giving Mark some slack, they didn't give Joanna any more slack the week she had another partner. She ended up in the bottom two and almost went home. Joanna is doing well because she has the best partner. Derek puts together routines that show case his dancers well and he uses their talents to their best advantage.

As far as entertainment value, I love watching Mark (for his dedication), Aaron (for his spunk and drive to get the judges approval), Donny (for his perseverance) and Joanna (for her competitiveness). I personally like Michael Irving but he's not graceful. I don't like Mya (for reasons above). I think Kelly comes off as sweet, but she's a drama queen when she doesn't get her way and, therefore, doesn't work as hard. I think Donny is doing terrific for his age. While he may have gotten some experience in dance steps as a singer, there weren't many considering he was dancing in a line with his brothers. If you're considering he has experience because of his singing and giving concerts then Mya has the same amount of exposure; plus according to some posters, she has prior dance experience.

Len is picking on Mya because he expects more from her since she's had Ballroom Dance training prior to being on the show. It has nothing to do with Race, as evident by his being the most complementary towards Michael Irvin, of the three judges, these past couple of weeks.

Mya's had professional training in Ballroom Dance (tango, paso doble, cha cha) for three movies she's danced in. There's been a BIG question as to why she was even allowed on the show. While some of the celebrities had dance in their background (Osmond, Aaron), no one that's appeared on the show has had formal Ballroom Dance Training like Mya. She's a semi-pro.

If she wants to be on the show with all that training, she has to expect the judges to be tough on her. Bruno and Carrie Ann have either turned a blind eye to all her training or do not know the extent to which she's had training. I'm glad Len knows! Mya did not tell the truth when she said she had "some tap lessons when she was little." She had formal dance training at prestigious schools until she was 15, and it was More than just tap.

Mya's probably been unable to make it on Broadway and is on the show trying to land a Broadway gig like previous DWTS alum. It's a shame because the show is suppose to be about watching the celebrities grow each week, not see if Mya can remember a routine or co-choreograph a number, which she did a few weeks ago.

One hopes that the judges rate the dancers based on the qualities of the dance and nothing else. However, I understand that Len is the only one of the three judges who has a ballroom dance background, and it seems likely to me that his critique may have more basis than that of the other two judges. These are, after all, ballroom dances, and I have a hard time understanding how the other two judges can judge ballroom dances if they have never been ballroom dancers.

I think the whole show should go. What a waste of time! Lets watch a bunch of "has beens" dance... wooopty dooo!

Mya is the best dancer on the show. If she was not emotionally connected, it would show in her dancing. I hate to use the race card but as an African-American, it's highly suspect he has been harshly scoring her. As with all shows like this, 10% is talent and 90% is personality. Michael should be dismissed like a bad habit and the Iron Chef guy is a geek who knows Kung Fu-remove him from my sight. The model is rail thin and needs an injection of steak and potatoes.

lets not make this about race. it is not, it is about dancing ability. and for your information, an african american did win the championship. Emmet Smith. If you are good, you win, black, white. whatever. The only person making this a race issue is you.

Karina Smirnoff is so unprofessional that she is underserving of the mirror ball trophy. Too bad her partner will suffer the same consequences her former partner, Mario Lopez did. Let's be real, people do not like this woman. The same reason Mario Lopez lost, Aaron will lose- they are dancing with a witch. Please give the girl her broomstick and let her fly away. She loves being associated with her dancing partner it helps her career.

I'm sorry but didn't MYA dance in the movie Chicago? She did the cell block tango.

I thought Anna did fine, Mark who?

It would appear the judges have their favorites and whether those favorites dance well or badly, the judges are going to praise them scoring them with high marks and ripping the the others to shreds. I thought the object was to judge everyone fairly on their performance, not whether the judges like or dislike you. It gets worse each year and disgusting to watch the fawning of the judges over their favorites. I am surprised anyone wants to to be on the show with treatment like that. Looks like it's time to get new judges!

Mya has no more dancing experience than Kristi Yamaguchi and all those Boy Band contestants like Aaron. If you are a member of a Boy Band, 80% of your job is learning choreography. The same is true for ice skaters and gymnast.

If Len hates Dimitri, say so. But Mya is in the competition. Don't expect us, viewers to believe she has been worse than all the others. That is how he has been scoring her. He's taken the fun out of the show.

Some say that Len is hard on Mya because she's a 'professional' dancer. Mya isn't a pro dancer. She has trained in TAP. She has some experience choreographing children in HIP HOP DANCE. Yes, she has been exposed to different styles of dancing, but then so had Mel B, Donny Osmond, Joey Fatone, Toni Braxton, and several other contestants over several past seasons. One week Len says the routine is too simplistic, when Dmitri changes the choreography to include more, he still isn't satisfied. The nitpicking he does to her doesn't happen to dancers who are WAYYYY worse. Think Kelly Osbourne and Donny Osmond, he doesn't say much of anything if you'll notice. Len is pissing me off big time. Why is he even a judge to begin with? Is he a choreographer? Has he ever been a professional dancer? What's his story? Keep in mind these people have usually one week or so to learn a new dance. I find that all the judges are using unfair standards to grade all of them honestly, but Len by far is a much worse son of a sea biscuit and I hope we can get rid of him.

Mark is also getting a raw deal. Donny Osmond is a much worse dancer than he is and he's always freaking safe. Kind of like his sister was and she couldn't dance at all. I'm boycotting DWTS until Len leaves. He's not fair or impartial.

For me it is obvious that Len has some kind of problem with Dimitri and taking it out on Mya. A lot of his criticism is based on the choreography and not the execution. It's such a shame and unfair. I'm no Mya fan, but fair is fair. If the other judges scores are more than a point apart from Len's that tells you something.

I don't think previous dance training should be a factor – nobody ever had to perform in a competition with professional dancers before they came on DWTS

Also I agree with comments about the music – it is too loud and rarely sounds like music for the dance they are doing. Seeing a "Viennese waltz "
with a tempo that doesn' t have a 3/4 time beat in it - what goes on here.

I find the whole program very scrambled rhis year – too many featured
guests who add nothing to the overall show.

I would like to see each of the judges have to perform with one of the professionals on the last show, wouldn't you?

i think that aaron has been judge more harshly than anyone. I think that Mark was hurt yesterday by Annas dumb routine, if you heard the comments, they didn't really critique his dancing it was more the routine & choreography (they should have given him Cheryl or Edyta to sub) I think Joanna is way over rated, she doesn't deserve those high scores, but it's one of those crushes that Bruno has (like he had with Stacy).
I love Mya. The edge at the end will be the partners choreography, and the Houghs are so talented!
I have no clue who's calling to vote for Joanna, did anybody see her in the SUPERSTARS! I hope she's next to go.

And next season.......PLEASE give Edyta a decent partner for once!

They do not respect Black women. Degrading remarks and lower than average points are given to them and not one Black woman has won. Hopefully, this show will be cancelled and the jolly old chaps will return to England.

It seems to be a unanimous that people are saying Lynn is harder on Mya. I dont feel he is a racist though.I disagree that she is over confident. I think she is pissed off, and I think she is very humbled not to show it after being stomped on for weeks by him. There have been others from previous shows that have had formal training such as Brooke Burke, but it didnt stop her from taking home the trophy.I noticed when he gives Mya scores he is taking off several points for one issue. Does he do this with other dancers...NOT! So maybe he has a problem with Dimitri? I am frankly tired of him telling them that here is too much razz ma tazz, that is why we watch it! He is taking all the fun out of it. I hope something is done about it before it is too late. I may not tune in for another seasonat this rate.

Instead of calling what Bruno said as racist, perhaps you are looking for racism. if you are you will certainly find it, but that is YOUR problem. I thought Kung Fu Panda was reference to Mark being a MARTIAL arts person, you know, like as in KUNG FU?

My pick for the final three; Donny (absolutley deserves it), Mya (absolutely deserves it) and Kelly or Aaron (haven't decided yet)

Carrie Inaba is DWTS's version of Paula Abdul; she's an annoying, self-righteous distraction who thinks her opinion actually means something. Bruno was hired to provide comic relief with his Austin Power's "Heyyyy baby!!" imitations and double-entendre outbursts. Everyone knows the only judge whose opinion really matters is Len's.

The winner will (and should be) Joanna. The reason is because Derek gives her the hardest coreography of any one of the contestants. I think he is the best dancer in the group and pushes Joanna the hardest. I think she's full of herself but you have to give credit where credit is due. Mya is good but her coreography isn't as hard as Joanna's. The rest have all come a long way but can't meaure up – I do give them credit for what they have achieved but if any one of the others win, it will be because of a bigger fan base, not because they were better dancers. It's a popularity contest.

I too, believe So You Think You Can Dance is a better dance showcase by some very hard working young non-professionals. They do amazing things that make you wonder how they do it.

I think Kelly Osborne has shown more improvement and along with her and Donnie Osborn they make some of the other dancers look like they have had ZERO training. I wish them both good luck.
Betty

This is the first season since DWS began that I am NOT watching the show. I was hugely disappointed with the winner last year..
the stiff young gymnast.
It has seemed that each season, the "celebrities" they have brought on to compete are largely unknown to me..I AM AN OLD PERSON.
After last season...I decided I am done with this show.
I STILL LOVE SO YOU THINK YOU CAN DANCE...always entertained by the wonderful routines and superb dancing every week.

My mother was watching Mya & Dimitri and asked me who was the professional and who was the celebrity. She is clearly consistently the best dancer of the group. I don't understand the all of the judges’ criticisms, especially how hard Len is. He may not like “gimmicks”, but he really should get over himself and judge the dancing as compared to everyone else.
Mark had a bad week. And the judges were correct that it wasn't great, it was floppy, although his scores were a bit harsh. And we all know that Bruno is playing to his "television personality" and wants to come up with colorful anecdotes. But I think that is all they are, colorful anecdotes made up on the fly.
We, the audience, don't vote for the best dancer. We vote for which personality we like the best. Kelly is endearing and is "real" with the same fears we have, although not the best dancer of the group. Aaron is annoying. He is exactly like that guy at work that we all hate who is a super hard core kiss ass who tries soooo hard to ingratiate himself to anyone and everyone. When the judges are giving him his critique, and he is shown with those pleading puppy dog eyes while silently mouthing “thank you” as if the merciful gods had just spared his pitiful life, it makes me want to slap him. His jive was good, great even. But I’ll never vote for him.

No Racism, but defintitely some very funky scoring by Len who either dislikes dmitri or mya. Either way they are the best in competition and his scores are killing the show, nto to mention his overall comments. Especialy when you consider there has been dancers in previous seasons who have had some formal training, even if you thought she had more that was something that should have been vetted when she was picked to do the show.

Ok, let's at least talk about Carrie Ann. She is just a biatch this season! Just so mean and cruel. She picks at every tiny little imperfection. Her job as a "judge" as gone to her head, and her butt!She should try doing a little dancing herself, and lose the matronly wardrobe and hair styles.

All the judges need to take a step back and see that they are all doing amazing performances for having to learn multiple dances within a matter of a few days when it takes professionals years to perfect. This is an amateur competition not a professional one. Cut these people some slack!

I could go on and on, basically the show seems very rigged now.