“Daddy, I don’t want you to leave anymore.”
An adorable little girl in braids hugs her father at her fifth birthday party as they share a bittersweet, private moment. It is a heartbreaking scene for any child whose parents are going through a difficult time in their marriage but for this little girl things are more complicated because her life is being played out in front of the entire nation.
The little girl in question is Alexis Gosselin and she is one of the stars of Jon & Kate Plus Eight. Her parents are in the center of a media storm as allegations of affairs on both sides fly left and right and the scene is from the season premiere of their reality TV show.
When the Gosselin sextuplets were born in 2004 they became overnight celebrities. Jon and Kate were already parents to twins Cara and Mady and their brood had grown to eight overnight. TLC followed the family for a series of documentary specials and public interest was so high that a weekly television series followed soon after.
Jon and Kate said that they originally wanted to do the show to keep a record of their children growing up- all of the memories and pictures that they wouldn’t be able to get themselves. It appears that now the show is recording the downfall of a marriage- are viewers still going to want to watch that? The season premiere had record ratings, but the format was drastically different than the usual episodes and fans were taken aback by the shift in focus away from the children and onto Jon and Kate.
The larger question still remains- is it fair for Jon and Kate to be putting their children in front of the camera during this difficult time? What do you think?
Paul Petersen, the President of A Minor Consideration, a children’s advocacy group and former child actor himself joined us on Showbiz Tonight for a fired up debate!
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I've read most of the blogs, and you know, it dawns on me that some is true and some maybe not...it is very unfortunate that Joh and Kate are breaking up, but that shouldn't mean the show shouldn't go on...let joh go his way and Kate goes hers. Who are we to judge them, is it that people are jealous because they can't do what Kate can do or did? Everyone wants to make a buck off this show whether positive or negative, ie...media... it's a shame. Kate should have the right to continue filming her kids, and we all really want to know what's happening with the 8 children. Of course Kate could get her own video camera and tape the children herself, but then she couldn't join in on the activities...I've never seen an interview of the children saying what they would like...I wish them all the best, God really is in control so lets see what happens...
Hi there and I think they should quit their show because of their children who hurt their feel between there parent who split there marriage.
I think they should remember why they got married in the first place.
They should think about why they had their children out of love or hate.
It should be about yourselves as a family..... Create and think about what you had years ago and think if u feel the same way about each other and your family now......If that means going off air to keep what you had a reality or going to what you want for both jon and kate and the children....... You decide what mom and dad want along with the kids............
I think it time for both of you to quit the film and it take to thinking to share for your children with spend time because what you have done to your children. I notice what children really miss between the parent who are planning to their future. Where are your children who need the father.
I see comment after comment about how the show and the parents are exploiting the children and how damaging it all must be. The bottom line is those are some of the most happy, well adjusted and well raised kids i've seen anywhere. They have collectively been taught manners and thoughtfulness and its apprent that despite everything else, Jon and Kate have done a tremendous job as parents. I've seen how most of you out there have raised your thoughtless, apathetic, selfish kids as part of the "blameless" generation and it sickens me to think how so many of you have jumped on the "Its-not-my-fault" bandwagon of semi-socialistic post-political correctness drivel. Prove to me you're a better parent and could resist the temptation to make a similar financial decision if faced with their economic reality 4 yrs ago, and i'll gladly admit i was wrong. until that time, stop watching and stop judging or watch and shut up.
PULL THE SHOW KATE AND JON WILL BE BETTER OFF DOWN THE ROAD SAVE THEM THE HUMILIATION THEIR CAUSING NOT ONLY THEIRSELVES BUT THEIR CHILDREN!
Personally I think that Kate has became so hung up in the camera's she can't imagine her life not being in the spot light. She is in it for the money and Jon just wants the opposite. In a marriage its not what one person wants its what is best for the two, kate needs to stop being so hung up on herself and give in a little if she wants her marriage to continue! COMPROMISE! You have to give a little to get a little.
seriously folks who cares ? I would rather focus on the more important things in life- like deciding what flowers to plant in my garden.
I believe that what we see is an edited version of what goes on in the lives of this family. It is unfair for us to judge them. The children appear healthy and happy. A lot of families have problems. Maybe it's not such a bad thing for someone who is having marital problems to see that they are not the only ones.
Yes please quit the show!!! I'm not sure why people are watching it. All Kate does is complain and treat her husband horribly. She definitely will not quit the show. It's all about the $$$ now.
If the American public STOPS watching, TLC will pull the plug.
But the fact is, people like to watch a train wreck EVEN IF LITTLE CHILDREN ARE BEING HURT in the process.
YES PEOPLE. If you watch it, you are guilty of keeping it on the air.
TLC had lost all creditability for me. This is sad. Greed at the expense of children.
WHEN did Kate ever NOT have help? She had/has helpers all the time; help with playtime, help with food prep, someone to fold her laundry and someone else to put it away. Puleezzzzeeeee...she has less responsibility than any other mother out there!
This show has turned into a good and fun family show into a circus show. It's really sad that these innocent children are being dragged into their mom's love of fame and money. Their lives are simply for amusement for everyone to see. As a mother of 5, I used to relate how Kate struggles to care for her 8 children. Now, it's just pathetic to watch her.
They should get out of that show as soon as their contractual obligations allow them to. The money they are making is not worth the stress of seeing their marriage paraded in front of others. No marriage problem is unsurmountable if you really want to work things out. Being in front of TV is not the ideal arena to discuss and make amends for indiscretions and mistakes.
Being a mom, I find myself not wanting to read anymore about Jon and Kate as it breaks my heart for the children and for them. I have broke down in tears in thinking of these children. I feel that when the show started it was with the best intentions and I loved it, however it has turned into something very unhealthy for the entire family. To watch a family fall apart is NOT ENTERTAINMENT. I feel that Jon and Kate should stop with the show, focus on the family unit, get some help and comfort those children. All along Kate has been saying that she was doing the show for the sake of the children, at this point the well being of the children going through such a hard time again is NOT ENTERTAINMENT. Nothing in the world to me is worth this kind of public disfunction at the expense of any child, I would hope Jon and Kate feel the same. I am sad for the family and I do wish them well.
Does Kate actually watch the replays of what is recorded? Does she actually think that a man would be attracted to what is on the screen- I know that these shows are "produced", but surely they have ample evidence that the woman is overwhelmed and needs to pull it in. I wouldn't blame Jon for wanting to have peaceful adult conversations. I wouldn't even begrudge him getting drunk as a skunk over this. He is not the general who will lead you into certain death- but he is a loving and generous person. I think he was of the notion that he and Kate would work together to raise the kids. She is going to drive him away and that will catch up with her later- because the children have a much closer emotional connection to him- it is very obvious. And that hair style she has now is ridiculous.
Jon should quit and Kate plus 8 should continue without him. Jon needs to grow up!
At first this show was fun to watch. As a mom raising young kids, I loved being able to relate to Kate – her coupon cutting, food shopping and daily struggles. What I didn't realize then and what makes me the most angry – is what a sham it was from the beginning. Kate was profiting from day one. She was obsessed with money and freebies. Meanwhile, she was stocking away more money then my family will see in a lifetime. What a fake. I feel embarrassed that I actually was impressed by some of her techniques at holding it all together.
Shame on her still using the excuse that she is doing this for her kids future. They already have enough money to provide for these children – even living in the lifestyle of celebrities. Lets face facts – she loves the money and the fame – period. Viewers are not a stupid as she thinks we are.
I don't know what to say. I love show, but I also think that these kids will be scarred for life. I feel bad for the twins because they're old enough to understand what's going on, but at the age where kids can say such cruel things without really understanding what they say
The new season premier was a bust. Kate's pity party was no birthday. The section where the girls were forced to sit on the couch and the little boy ran like mad (because Kate THREATENED to leave them there if they did not make it to the door quickly enough. We saw sad faces just sitting (looked afraid of offending her) and how they then jumped to keep up. Kate THREATENS often to get rid of the dogs which she now hates (they make dirt, you know). Kate constantly puts down Jon and is coaching the children to say "its so fun" they exact way she says it. Everything is "so fun". Those kids love playing with Jon, but hate being forced to sit with or go with Kate. Her controlling, mean-spirited, self-centered actions are harming their little egos. Mady already exhibits signs of being schizo (as does Kate) and one of the little boys cries (whines) constantly, indicating under extreme stress. Childrens' agencies in PA should throroughly investigate, and her brother should attest to her neurotic behaviour to the proper authorities. The show should end. If you want to do open marriage counseling with truly trained psychiatrists, that would be a good replacement. Enough is Enough! I don't care what Kate has to say. Her command of the English language is abhorrent.
On Kate crying first words..."I don't want to ruin my makeu_" Cmon Crocodile tears! Kate, the reality is "Boohoo....now I cannot dictate Jon and be the boss and a big B."
As the years go on of the making of this reality show I hate to say I enjoy watching even more. I find myself liking more because of Jon and Kate. The way they treat each with Jon rolls his eyes and the way Kate is out right mean to him. It reminds me a little of my own marriage the way we treat one another but I think everyone tends to forget we all have ups and downs and we all make mistakes as parents. Does this mean they are exploiting the children to have the show well maybe. I can guarantee that any child who has be given the opportunity that these have had they would not complain. The only downfall for them is that when this show is over it is all gone and they will not get to do all the activities as they use to. I say let the children enjoy all of the benefits while they can before mommy and daddy will have to get a real job and never get to see them every again.
The sooner these sickening, money-grubbing whores are off TV, the better. I hope their children can be taken from them.
I feel that Kate is being badly portrayed in this situation. The woman is always to blame. Being unfaithful is an unacceptable way to cope with any kind of marital problems. Both parties should be honest with each other. If Kate were not in control , as she has been "accused" of being, can you imagine the chaos in the family? And Jon is just soaking all of this attention up, obviously this is how he was able to have so many girlfriends. Because of his notoriety. He is not exactly Hugh Jackman. Leave Kate alone .
Yes, quit the show. Never should have been a show to begin with.
Look at how Kate treats her husband... this illuminates the entire issue. She criticizes every little movement he makes and makes it obvious that his opinions, thoughts, wants, needs do not matter. Especially if they require any give on her part. Jon has cracked. He's had enough with being miserable. And the continuation of the show is pivotal in this. He gives the impression he'd like to scale back or end it completely. She won't appear to give at all. What choice does he have but to walk away? He's not a functioning player in his own life within this relationship. He can't breathe.
Short of counseling and a serious desire on both parties to take a hard look at their problems and the role they each play in their continuance... Kate may be a controlling bitch, but Jon allows it... the entire thing will fall apart completely. If it hasn't already.
I feel for all of them. What you see simply mirrors what's going on in a lot of families. X 10 unfortunately.
I think it is more than time for them to quit this show and start focussing on their children. It really unfair for them to deny privacy to these children. I personally think this is one of the few instances government involvement is justified.
Useless greedy bozo fools...please get off my TV .....NOW
Yes, dump the show. I am sure there are better shows that can be aired that would be more interesting.
People, get a life and stop watching others live theirs on tv.
This is child abuse. The parents, especially Kate is clearly out for her own selfish interest. She cares about writing books and promoting the ratings of the show. This is simply selling your children for money. TLC continues to exploit. The show should be closed. I no longer watch them. Someone needs to stand up for the interest of those kids.
These poor children are ruined for life. Even if they quit the show or it is cancelled, they will forever be in the public eye, recording every pimple along the way.
They've never known anything else but cameras in their faces and if the production crews leave now it is surely to throw them into culture shock. They will actually have to live a "normal" life like the rest of us.
As for their parents...I don't condon Jon's actions but certainly can't blame him. The way Kate has treated him is horrendous and the body language between them has always been peculiar to me.
Sad to me, but not surprising that they are going through this. The problems that many couples face that should be handled in privacy are now being played out before millions of viewers. They did ask for the attention, however and like any celebrity, they will now have to live with that decision and accept the consequences.
They way I see it, the show will be ending this year anyway. How can you have a show when all the kids will be in school....unless we have one hour of Kate bashing Jon.....
Was good while it lasted, but the end is inevitable this year.
I have to say after reading all the comments, this show must end. Producers at TLC, have you no shame? As someone who works on television I can tell you that this kind of "reality" crap is often staged, money paid, setups and terrible things done all in the name of ratings and $. These two people are phony and when the gravy train ends, and it will,may already have, then what? Hero to zero in 15 minutes, and the biggest losers will be the children. Turn off this show, the best way you can send a message is to cut the ratings in half and therefore the ad dollars for TLC. TLC's top (and really only) rated show is this h&K plus 8 pull that and TLC is in deep trouble. Vote now and turn it off....
get your priorities in order. God, Marriage, Family. Get the cameras out of your lives and work on restoring your marriage and family. God blessed you with 8 beautiful children. Start acting like responsible parents and make your marriage and children your priority.
You don't need a million dollar home to raise your family. Downsize and put love and security back in your marriage and childrens' lives.
The show and all those cameras are killing their family. It's to bad they can't see that and fight to keep the family together.
I used to enjoy Jon and Kate and their beautiful children every week because they seemed like a happy family who had problems like the rest of the us but worked as a family to overcome them. It's difficult to watch them now because of the pain they are going through as they decide if the marriage is worth saving. I feel as if I am intruding on private moments that should be private if this family is to start the healing process. The parents may have exploited the children thinking they were giving them opportunities they otherwise might not have had. However, I also blame TLC for exploiting this family with the endless publicity and teasers that preceded this season's opener. TLC, cut your losses and cancel this show and give this family a chance to be a family again.
The family is not falling apart. It was all for media attention – and more viewers are watching the show! Ratings were dropping and now they are on the rise again, so they won!!! Kate's head has swelled so much I'm suprised she's still holding it up.
Regarding the kids. Look at all the negative media attention right now that's not fair to the kids. One channel says Jon is cheating the next day Kate is cheat, blah, blah, blah. All this negative attention is not good for the kids to be seeing or hearing!!!! I think they need to take some time and focus on just the family NOT ON CAMERA!!!
More kids, more crying, more whining, etc... I get enough of that in my own house why do I care about someone with 6 kids.
They are doing it for the money, pure and simple. Exploiting their kids for 15 minutes of fame and some cash. Time to lead a normal life and cancel the show.
Would she be better to be OCTOMOM? Jon and Kate have taken care of those children, long before this show!
They have NEVER taken care of those children by themselves, EVER. They have ALWAYS had helped and what Kate did was no different than what Octomom did except she was married. Big whoopin deal. She still neglects her kids by running all over the country trying to promote herself. The only reason she is "famous" is because of her children and she needs to stay home for awhile and be with them. Give them the life that they deserve not the life that Kate and Jon THINK they are entitled to.
I think this show should not air any longer. In my opinion, I think Jon and Kate need to focus on their relationship and their family. Obiously the show isn't bringing them together. They are the only ones to make the decisons for their children. The kids are too young to decide for themselves. I am sure they can survive with all the book deals and other incentives they recieve without the show. I just think in the future the kids will look back at this show and reflect and watch how their own family fell apart for the whole world to watch. Its just so sad. God bless that famiy. You just never know what money can do to people. Whats more important; the happiness of your family or making alot of money?
I watched the show from the beginning. It is sad to see what is happening to the family. As I watched on Monday I remember all the other birthday parties with family and friends helping. None were there even to help with the prep work. Question? When they lived in a smaller house, small yard all the birthday parties were at the house (even with more people invited). This year, with all their problems, why was the party held in a public place where paparazzi where able to be when they have a large house with lots of yard space? This doesn't make sense if as Kate states she is doing this for her kids. Jon stated he didn't know if he wanted to go on with the show last season. Kate has made all the decisions from day one!!! Both need professional help if they want to save their family. But at this point, it seems the money and fame is worth more to Kate.
Another question, when Kate was crying at the end, did anyone notice that she stated, she didn't want to mess up her make-up. Someone needs to start looking into the welfare of the children. Mom is too busy with her own life and Jon never had the conviction to deal with her strong personality .
I think it's interesting that this only became a debate when Jon was seen with another woman. Where was all the outrage over the past few years since the show first aired? You never heard anyone claiming exploitation until the media started publishing daily articles about alleged affairs, at which point the tabloids started following this family around and hiding in bushes outside their home. I also love how so many people claim to know someone's character from watching 30 minutes of TV once a week. Kate is a "monster" and Jon is a "doormat"... you get that from 30 minutes of an EDITED TV show?? I think any one of us would have moments we aren't proud of if our lives were being filmed every minute of the day. I think this family should be left alone to make the decisions they feel are right for themselves. If they choose to continue the show, so be it. If you don't like it, don't watch.
Have to quit writing on this blog now and try to find a constructive way to get the networks to shut off shows like this. As long at the network brodcasts these shows, people will watch. I have shut off my cable and am disconnecting my computer, I want to spend my time living my life not living through other peoples.
I have to agree with the remark about the people of Pennsylvania making a complaint to a person in authority. Anyone can do that! So someone in that fine state do it all ready. And if it has been done and they found the network and the parents are within their rights as far as the children go, then for heavens' sake get each of the children legal representation, and therapy. No matter what happens with the marriage, it is quite obvious some sort of counseling is needed and should have been ongoing from the very first taping for everyone to discuss with an outside person how this was affecting them and 'go from there'. We in the real world know that any change in routine can affect a child, teasing in school, marriage trouble, moving, new baby, new pet, death of a relative–they may need counseling for any or all of these....
How did this couple make it to the cover of People magazine? Are you telling the world there is no other more interesting happenings in the media than this? Hard to believe.
They choose to have a large family and to then add puppies into the mix–no one forced them. They had normal jobs that paid an average salary and now that the kids are at an age to be in school, time to go back to them. Your 15 minutes of fame are over so live with it and get back to reality as reality should have been. I am a mother supporting a quite larger than normal family quite well-thank you very much Hollywood. No thanks if ever asked to display my children for the world's consumption.
We would all be satisfied with a yearly update in a classy magazine and possibly a once a year appearance on the Today show and let you go on with your lives as normal. But can they give up the big house, book tours, bodyguards, etc. to raise their children in a quiet neighborhood now? I think they could if they tried.
As for comments that this is their job, relatives, social services, someone step in allready and monitor this. These kids lives and anyone elses' kids who are featured on reality shows constantly should not be fodder for public display. Cancel the show, pay off the contract but cancel the show, and bloggers who don't like this show, shut off the show allready.
First off, What's the great big deal about having such a large family! Back in the 50s, 60s, 70s, practically everyone came from a big family, and there was no big blue van, either, if lucky, one car!
And certainly those parents did not exploit their children to get spa treatments, hair implants, Disney vacations, etc. If anyone has filled out a FAFSA form they will know that the Gosselins will qualify for the Maximum in College Aid, due to the large family size.
Jon and Kate are intelligent people. Did they not look at the fact that the majority of "celebrity" children end up as drug addicts, in rehab, and unhappy the rest of their lives? And in those cases at least those children had the "safe haven" of a Home without cameras. Yet those celebrity children still turned out terribly. So what is the effect if there is not even a safe haven (the home) where the camera is gone?
For the sake of their family maybe they should quit the show. I have always felt bad for Jon.....she castrates him on a regular basis just in the way she talks to him. Now that they have the huge house and are used to this lifestyle...they could not afford to go back to their old lives.
No, they should not quit.
I don't think "Plus 8" is a good name for a show.
OF COURSE THEY SHOULD!!!!!!!!!!! Saving your family is WAY MORE IMPORTANT than a TV show or $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Growing up is difficult enough. Let these children have a normal childhood. I feel that Kate wants the attention and all the monetary things that go along with her fame...I don't feel that the "family" is what she is basing her decisions on. Jon didn't want to continue for another season but she presured him....this needs to end. As for will people watch a new format...yes. Society feeds on the downfall and problems of anyone, especially if they can watch it from the safety of their own homes.
They should quit the show, it's not fair on the kids at all. They should get out of the media spotlight before things get worse.
Children are very aware of everyone and everything: cameras, produceers, conversations, actions, and most of all the emotional feelings of their family, which includes their parents. If their parents and the viewers are having problems making sense of everything, you can be sure the children are even more confused and affected. They just don't have the ability to articulate their thoughts and feelings. This show for the children is perhaps making the financial situation of their parents more managable and less stressful, but it can only be detracting from their emotional and developmental life. In other words, the children have been forced to take care of their parents, when it should be the other way around. The family that is made up of multiples is complicated and difficult enough , without adding an entire other set of agendas, characters, needs, and expectations. I think Jon's statement that he doesn't want his life to be a reality show is a very genuine truthful statement for him and for his children. If he cannot separate his true self from the reality show, the children are as well. If Jon is recognizing this for himself and his children, then he has a responsibility to act and should be encouraged to do so.
I have a question? Why has no private citizen filed a civil lawsuit on behalf of the children asking a judge to step in and stop the show. The family service department in Pennsylvania should be alerted and the parents should be investigated for being unfit parents. i do believe any private citizen can do this. Children have rights, if their parents are violating them and a public person is aware of this abuse is it not their duty to report it?
Tummy tucks and "treatments" and bodyguards? Are you kidding me???
Their 15 minutes of fame are up!
Thing is, I feel bad for the kids whichever spouse it is who just want along with it. Kate has turned into a monster and she's teaching her kids that they, too are entitled. Just what we need.....more bratty headline grabbing "role models".
Total Scam......The ratings were dropping, other shows were coming out with the same ideas. They needed to hook people back in so they pertend to be having pronlems. The paparazzi chasing Kate are all employed by TLC. Have you noticed the two older girls aren't upset by there parents situation. If Jon and Kate were actually having problems it would be evident by how the two older ones act. It's kind of sad that reality TV needs Jon and Kate to pretend.
Firstly, let me say that Jon Gosselin is no downy innocent. What he is at least accused of is, to me, repugnant, particularly so when you have small children (8, no less). Secondly, to do so on national television is just insane.
That being said, Kate Gosselin is, to my mind, a complete and utter narcissist, caring, it seems very little for the man she married a decade ago and it seems, even less, for the eight children she brought into this world. It seems to me that she views her children almost exclusively as a means to an end – a meal ticket.
There is no doubt in my mind that we – television viewers – have done untold psychological and emotional damage to the Gosselin children.
TLC needs to do the responsible thing and pull the show.
I watch this show because I enjoy watching the children develop their own unique personalities. Some kids are more assertive than others, Mady is more dramatic and expressive, Cara is more athletic, Aaden is more articulate (love the glasses!), Joel & Collin play like typical boys, but are also kind. Alexis and her alligator obsession is hysterically funny, Hannah wants to be "mommy's helper and little Leah's personality is bigger than her tiny stature. News flash–even good kids at that age scratch, bite and kick occasionally. I am sure that the show is not taped in real time, so I hope that their parents will have resolved their problems by the time the season ends. In the interest of the kids, stop writing hateful comments about their parents!
I think that they should stop the show for the better of the children. I think that these kids are going to grow up and have a negative feeling toward their mother and father because of what they are being put through. Look what it has done to this marriage. I am not saying they would not be here if they never did the show but doing the show added to the chance of it happening.
They should stop the show and focus on their marriage and family in private.
And so the drama and criticism of these peoples lives continues here on this board. I bet we would have alot more drama if we could look into the lives of some of the people who have made extremely idiotic comments on this board. This is freaking hilarious. Don't have much to do do we?
My heart breaks for these young innocent children, shame on Jon and Kate for exploiting (I can think of no other word) these children have no say so whatsoever it what is happending to them, these parents are selfish and only thinking of themselves and their monetary gain. Where are the child protection services through all this.
Please end this boring and completely pointless show. If not for the simple lack of entertainment value, at least to stop the exploitation of the kids.
Really – the fact that it even became a show at all demonstrates how depraved we've become.
I watched this seaon opener with sadness. I have enjoyed watching the kids grow up and go through the normal things that kids go through only 6 times so. Jon and Kate need counseling. She has become too involved in her books and signings and is loosing out on the kids. A stay at home dad is ok, if both sides agree. I don't think that they did. The show needs to end, the media needs to get out of their face and they need to talk it over. Jon and Kate need to remember the kids grow up and go out on their own – do they want to be alone after that or together. Think about it!
end the show
save your family, your marriage and regain your self respect
I have also watch this show since it first aired. Everyone says Jon is a whimp or whiny but I don't think so. Watching Kate when she first married, seeing how happy and jokingly she was until now. I think her being on TV and raising 8 children changed her dramatically. She is rude and argumentative towards Jon. Why make things worse by standing up to her on national TV. He already has been humilitated and embarassed as it is. Jon did the right thing. I feel getting marriage counseling should be considered but it is not my feelings that counts. Also, I don't think TLC should include marriage counseling for them to be aired. I think this is a private matter. I believe Jon when he said he didn't cheat on Kate. Tabloids blew this whole situation out of context. If they go to marriage counseling, they should seek it in their church. Also, Kate needs to see if she has postpartum depression. Her attitude has changed dramatically since she had the sextuplets. Before the birth, she was happy and after she became the "Hulk".
It is strange to read the comments about how people think the show should be cancelled, yet I read the ratings for the show's fifth season premier were the highest ever. We are truly a culture that thrives and lives of drama and scandal.
In response to the question, I believe that the show should go off the air, and yes responding to someone's comment I understand this is their way of making money....but at what cost? Emotionally and mentally I think the true victims of this are the eight children, and I think it is unfair for both parents to allow their marriage, possibly falling apart, to take place in front of cameras. They should take a step back and re-evaluate their marriage and determine what the best path to take is, but off camera and not in front of millions of viewers. As a teacher, it frustrates me to watch how Kate has treated Jon on the show, because she has bully tendencies and she is extremely demeaning to the man she chose to stand by her side, but it is not my place to say what Jon should do or that his actions in recent days were justified. To sum up, the parents should do what is best for their children and out of the public's eyes.
Jon and Kate need to think about the kids. Kate is all about herself. She is more about money then about the kids. She thinks that she does no wrong. TLC needs to cancel the problem.
I guess "The Soup" was right. TLC's next hit show will be "Jon minus 9".
I think they should quit the show for a number of reasons. first of all these people suck as parents. like kate's brother said, they are exploiting their children and its really sick. ive never watched an episode of john and kate plus 8 because i dont have a void in my life that needs to be filled up by watching other people do the exact same things i do. really, i dont understand how people can call this entertainment. its dumb. omg i have 8 kids who cares? WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT THIS SHOW? WHO CARES? i would get creeped out by watching this show cuz john looks just weird. i cant think of any other word than WEIRD. HES UGLY AND kate is just a straight b*tch. why would u wanna watch that? whats missing in your life? haha
I am sorry to be the one to bring this point up, but if they couldn't understand that having 6 all at once was NOT going to create some form of hardship on the family- emotionally, finacially, and or otherwise than when they realized that Kate was carrying 6 embryos a decision should have been made at that time for "selective elimination"- now, I know that I am opening a can of worms with this reasoning because the kids are all here and they all seem healthy, energetic and extremely cute to boot, but I can't really understand if the decision to go ahead with the multiple pregnancy was really based in religious belief than how can she- Kate be considered "religious" when all she does is castrate and verbally abuse her husband on national tv? And I'm not saying that having 8-kids isn't stressful, but you would think with all the help they have received and acquired at this point, that she would cool it with her kids as well- she's mean to them most of the time as well, You know who are the "real" religious ones are the Duggar's- they have 18 kids and have been able to support them all on their own withought the recent reality show they've signed up for- that's True American Style- hard work ethic and a strong moral grounding, altough I don't know anyone else that would want 18-kids, but hey everyone's different...
TLC needs to pull this show. Yes, Jon and Kate should put their children first but they obviously are not. I am sure due to contracts Jon and Kate can not just stop the show. Shame on TLC for allowing this to continue. They need to stop thinking about ratings and think about those 8 kids! TLC is just as guilty as Jon and Kate.
I think what is really threatening to damage these children is not necessarily the cameras, but the way that Kate treats Jon in front of them. She is emotionally abusive, and has been for years. I had to stop watching the show a couple seasons ago because it was upsetting to me the way she would berate and belittle him. She screams at him and calls him names in public. He probably feels trapped with her because of his love for his children. Fame and fortune tends to exaggerate underlying qualities in a person. I believe she was already controlling and the celebrity status has brought out the worst in her. I do believe however that infidelity is always wrong. Her treatment of him does not justify an affair. If either of them cheated, then it is a very serious problem. The two of them need to be in individual therapy and also marriage counseling. Kate needs to realize that she is a huge part of the problem instead of blaming the failure of the relationship on her husband. They need to bow out of the show and get help for themselves and the children.
As for the money argument, they have made an estimated $10 million, which is more than enough to pay their house off outright and put all 8 kids through college. With no mortage to worry about, their other daily expenses would then be manageable for these two very employable people. Nurses and IT people are in demand and well paid.
For those of you that feel the show is exploiting the children, I suggest you do as I did and stop watching it. As long as TLC has these kind of ratings, they will fight tooth and nail to keep it on the air.
he cheated, she cheated, he didn't, she didn't, whatever, take the show off the air so the kids don't have these memories to remember for the rest of their lives....they don't need cameras on them for the rest of their lives.....
This show should have been done with long ago before it even got to where it is now. The media will have a tendency to publicize the dirty laundry of couples, and the end result are these poor children who relentlessly get dragged into the middle of it. And it's a selfish thing what these parents are doing by continuing to allow their children to be a part of their immaturity. Kids should always come first in a marriage, not this stupid show, not the money they're making from it, or the mass amounts of publicity.
I've only watched the show a couple of time, over a year ago, and was totally appalled at the way that both Kate and Jon treated each other. There was no respect between either of them. Kate was quite frankly, embrassing. The example that she has set for her children is a very poor one. If you expect to have your children grow respecting others and their opinions then you'd better model it at home. From what I've seen, the kids need help. They need both their daddy and mommy to help them become confident, sefl assured adults. Enough of the show. It is going to take a lot of work to get these children back on track. They may be multiples, but first and foremost, they are individuals who need their parents!
As they mentioned relying on their faith and love for their children, they need to follow the wisdom WITH their faith and quit the show. Also if the parents are smart, they should have saved some of that income for any emergencies. Their marriage and family is in an emergency state that requires assistance WITHOUT the cameras. Please get the help that is being offered to you to clear your mind and thoughts out of the media trees! If the Gosselins feel lead to come back after recovery, repairs, and amends after 2-3 years..then do it. If family and kids come first, the parents are included in that circle and then prove the faith and wisdom to overcome. Many are for you!
The show will end when we stop watching.
I've watched the show from the beginning and have often thought they should have stopped after the first documentary. Now that their marriage is on the rocks, I definitely think they need to stop and focus on their family. Perhaps they should do specials once in while (such as a Christmas special, should their marriage survive). The interesting thing about all of the outrage with regards to "exploiting the children" is no one seems outraged with the Duggars, or the Rolofs or any of the other reality shows that feature families. Are the Duggars, who are doing the exact same thing, more acceptable because they are openly super Christians?
I should have stopped watching this show two seasons ago when I heard Kate say to one of the kids, "Don't listen to Daddy. He's mean." The way she treats her husband will affect their children for years to come. Last week's episode was so sad and troubling, but I have to admit, the show has become a train wreck, and its hard not to be a voyeur.
I blame TLC. It is disgusting what they choose to air. They are the objective party in this situation. TLC is cashing in and intentionally destroying this family in the process. If the show loses ratings this family will be ditched in the blink of an eye. I have never seen the show. I did not attend my church the weekend Kate came to speak (do you believe that garbage?)... This is not my thing to watch this kind of trash. But, boy American's seem to be eating it up. We all need to turn off our televisions and get out and live.
Yes i think the show should go off the air and i think someone should really look at the care the childern get from that narcissist Kate when the child was sick and throwing up she made the child sleep on the laundry room floor because she did not want him sick in his room what kind of mother does that, there is no love for those kids from her and Jon is a good dad he is just is tried of being be littled by Kate so it looks like he is not a good dad or withdrawn form the kids but he is not. Get on that worthless,narcissist kate the looser mom.
It is amazing what people will do to their own children in the name of greed. I truly believe that DHS (PA Dept. of Health and Human Services) should take a long hard look at this situation.
I think that the tabloids are too blame for the issues...these people cannot help the fact they get paid to be on TV. Really and truly they are no different than any other person or persons that have a show on TV...we all need to remember they everyone on television is a real person with real feelings and problems...the difference in them and us is that it is broadcast on National TV. You get wha you sign up for. Also...we are not seeing all of the story people...we are only seeing what has been edited for us. We have no idea what is really going on and it is really no ones business but Jon and Kate...it would be a pitty for entertainment industry to break up a family b/c they are jealous of the success of a reality tv show over ones that cost a ton of money too make. People just do not want others to do better...if you do not like what you then do not watch the show...and remember the show is called Jon and Kate Plus 8 so it is going to document every aspect of the family not jus the children.
Take away all the bling, including the tv cameras, and let the children function like normal children. I'm surprised that there's no mention of any type of therapy for these children. I've watched this show maybe 3 times. I found the children to be camera shy...whenever a child was focused in on that child usually turned away from the camera. Shame on the parents for letting greed get in the way of raising this beautiful group of children. Put the parents out in the real world, working, and see how close they become. Everytime I've seen Kate she's either worrying about her tummy tuck, new hair-do, playing with her phone...etc. As a mother I could never go off on a book tour, not with 8 little ones at home. Grow up Jon & Kate, you made them now raise them!
Clearly, most of the people who have commented on Jon & Kate have probably watched the show once or twice, if at all. If you are a regular viewer, you would know that Kate was a nurse, who understandably wanted to stay home with her premature children. Jon was an IT analyst who used to work outside of the home. Having six premature children in intensive care for weeks could have cost hundreds of thousands of dollars in hospital bills & we don't know how much was covered by insurance. These people were hard working, young parents who handled having 8 kids before the age of 30 very well. Having even one child is exhausting at times, let alone 8. People shouldn't be so judgmental now that they are facing the problems that most families face. The tabloid vultures can harass real celebrities!
The public should be ashamed. We have turned this family, and in particular, the young children, into consumables. Those poor kids have had every aspect of their lives from potty training to vomiting to tantrums to their parents marriage break-up presented for public enjoyment. It is revolting and I am ashamed.
I truly believe that they should quit the show. Now is the time to be out of the spotlight so they can focus on their family and healing and working through their problems in private. No one else needs to see it. The show has gone beyond what it was initally meant to be.
I WAS a huge fan. I'm not going to watch anymore. It used to be fun to watch, not anymore. They used to be inspiring, not anymore. The show used to be entertaining, not anymore.
Jon and Kate renewed their vows last year, they told their children it was because they were going to stay together forever, well not anymore.
By the looks of all the responses, the show should end. Kate, you are an overbearing control freak. John, grow a pair already. You two should be ashamed of yourselves. It takes two to tango. You are both at fault for the demise of your marriage but more importantly, you are ruining your children's lives. What's the matter with you?
In this time of a recession when most American's are losing their jobs left and right and scrambling to think about how to provide basic essentials for their families- who in their RIGHT mind would WANT to watch this show detailing their rise from normal suburbia to mega-mansion, celeb-style living? All at their children's expense- It's SICK! I know that their are "REAL" ppl. out there now struggling like these ppl. have before they became "rich & famous" basically for doing the SAME EXACT THING that crazy-"Octo-Mom" has done and I bet you 9 out 10 that those ppl. struggling right now would NEVER even think about selling out their children's childhood's (Which mold and shape the person you ultimately become and CAN NEVER be recaptured) all in the name of "providing" when it's clear as day that it's all in the name of "Wanting", "Greed", "Selfishness", etc. How they cannot survive now on an income of over 10million $$$'s is beyond common sense. Here's a thought- one that Kate is CONSTANTLY COMPLAINING about- how about BUDGETING and INVESTING that $10+mil? Hmmm... there's an idea. It's quite obvious at this point that greed and the selfish pursuit for more, more, more has overtaken this once "normal" family – especially Kate- she's unbearable to watch. ENOUGH!
The last episode – birthday party in the park – was painful. I've enjoyed the show until now. The little kids seem to be ok with the cameras; however, i sincerely worry about the 2 oldest. I personally resented Kate repeatedly saying : "the new house is for the kids....." While there is now room to run, no doubt about it KATE WANTED THIS HOUSE. IT'S FOR HER.
While I feel Jon has not taken responsibility many time, I also feel he now realizes that Kate's a tyrant, and it'll always have to be her way or nothing. I need them to divorce AND THE SHOW TO END.
If it is truly the show that is destroying their marriage, then Yes. It has been expressed that the show is their jobs. In my world, if my job or my husband job was taking a toll on our marriage to the point that one has to move out...one of us would definitely quit our job. I feel that priorities in the marriage are completely off. You can't have a happy home without a happy marriage. In my marriage, it's God, my Husband and my kids. I don't see any foundation in their marriage at all. Without a foundation, you can't not build anything else.
What ever decision is made, I'm sure Jon & Kate both know how to take care of the children. Do I think the camera's being there are affecting them...not really. The cameras have been there from the beginning, it's what they know.
It is extremely hard to answer the blog question, because the "watchers" don't really know the truth and will never know the truth. We are all kidding ourselves if we said we knew why the marriage was crumbling.
Bottom line, I don't like any marriage to end, especially with kids involved. Just pray that the right decisions will be made and that the kids are being sheltered from all the nonsense.
FYI...even if they stopped taping...the P people will be all over them...if not more than they are now.
Check out the website "A Minor Consideration" and you will see an eye-opening account of minors and the media. Leave a comment for them also.
While it does take a lot of money to raise this family, other families do it just fine without exploiting their children on WORLD television and I not only don't like this show I don't like any of the 'reality' shows that feature minor children in them.
We have shut off the cable and would say to the rest of you bloggers who don't like the way these shows seem to end up going–SHUT IT OFF.
If the network continues with the show and others like it, I hope that the legal eagles out there will get busy and make the laws tougher for parents to expose their families like this on world television and that someone will take charge and represent the children's financial interests. There has to be relatives of these minor children who can do more than go on a talk show themselves, put your money, time, home, etc. where your mouth is and get these children off world television.
Whether or not you are a fan of this show and others like it there is no argument that the children are being exploited by their parents and the network. As far as the network having a contract so what – they have been broken before and will be again.
Get Hollywood out of your life and get back to a normal three or four bedroom rambler with one or two bathrooms and quit thinking you need bigger and better. I know for a fact, have done it, you can live with a family of ten in a small four bedroom house with one bathroom quite comfortably and raise functioning adults who don't sleep around, don't abuse drugs, aren't violent and contribute to society without having to sacrifice anything of rthe way you want them raised. To Jon and Kate and the network, realtiy is these children and their needs. They are not being met and you as the adults will be to blame when these children get older and have the problems they are eventually going to have.
Time to call it quits Jon and Kate. Take time to focus on your children through what may be a very difficult road, if they truly choose to divorce.
Kate can't live the lifestyle she wants without the income from the show. Once income from the books start coming in, she'll be able to maintain her lifestyle and they will be able to quit the show.
Yes, they should stop filming. I will not be watching the show anymore because I believe it is unhealthy for the children. It's fantastic they have been able to take vacations because of the show, but I think because of the marital problems they need to quit – the children are going to be able to watch this over and over again. Who wants to watch their parents' marriage fall apart once, let alone be able to play it back endlessly and know that millions of people watched as well?
Kate, Jon needs to hear that you need him and he is important to you.
Get Dr. Phil on the show and work it out for the kids.
Everyone needs to leave these people alone- whatever trials and tribulations they are going through is really none of our business- this has always been a nice show- no holds barred- couples talking like they normally would in their daily lives- sometimes not pretty- and the thing that irks me worse than anything is Kates brother and sister in law- they need to keep their mouths shut- they are the pathetic ones in this whole thing- nothing like standing behind your family-NOT- they would be out in the cold for their betrayal- you just dont do that to family.
Say what you want ,but the children are being exploited on the show. Of course Jon and Kate are doing it for the children Yeah right. how about the money. Better put their best efforts in saving the children and work on their marraige problems.
This show should have never existed. It needs to be gone.
If nobody watched shows like Joh & Kate Plus 8 or any of the other "reality" shows-Jessica Simpson/Nick Lachey, Britney Spears/Kevin Federline, and so on and so on then they would not be on the television. It is disingenuous for the very people who watch them to then criticize the people making money from this "job" for exposing themselves and their children. Only programs with viewership stay on the air unless we are discussing "public television" stations and nobody is watching those. Get over yourselves. If you really think what these people are doing is so very abhorent, change the channel and stop being hypocrites! If you are watching and keeping these programs on the air then you are participating.
Kate needs to stop whining about money and stop bossing around Jon! They have made enough money and received enough freebies for a lifetime. Now take the time to work the marriage and raise the kids away from the camera instead of airing your dirty laundry in public. For the sake of the kids have some dignity and sort out problems privately. Kate has milked it for millions and always appeared to enjoy humiliating Jon on TV! Soon the kids will be in elementary school, so if money is the issue then she should get a JOB like everybody else and work!
On second thought...These people are trendsetters and pioneers. Soon the Government will have a camera in all of our homes to make sure we raise the kids according to the mandates set forth by our newly enlightened Supreme Court. Jon, Kate @ the 8 should get the cash now and head for the privacy of their camera free bunker in the wilderness! As R.E.M. once sang.... "It's the end of the world as we know it...and I feel fine!".
Having 8 kids is hard for anyone to take on and being so young and unprepared has taken it toll on their marriage. But its easy for people looking in on the situation to say their only concerned about the money and quit. The reality is that 8 kids are expensive, so who can blame jon and kate for not wanting to quit the show to have more financial stability. I know its bad to say that its not p/c but come on none of us can imagine that financial burden that 8 kids bring, to me its not selfish to want your kids to have better lives than you had and if there was a way to create that such as this show any of us would do it! Jon and Kate should keep doing the show because it is the reality of the situation that they excepted. Even if Jon and Kate werent doing this show and were in the same situation that their marriage is in now it would still be hard for the kids in private and in public so this is not something new to kids all across this country its going to hurt them no matter what the situation is. Jon nor Kate is making the situation better by always making comments about wanting to be alone or being alone because you should never fell alone with 8 kids or be selfish enough to take a weekend off from your family. Last time I checked being a parent isnt a 9 to 5 job for most of us, would be nice, but it is not that way.
Keep the show on the air. Yes, Kate is "bossy" but would Jon do ANYTHING w/o her getting on him? Also, they show mins. out of their lives we don't know what happens in the other HOURS that are not shown.
Jon is essentially a "stay at home dad" who is being supported by his wife. She works 4 times as much as he does. If he was the one travelling and she complaining about no longer being a nurse, he would be bossy to her and tell her that is her JOB.
As a result of this show the children get much more attention from their parents than they would otherwise. Households where both parents work outside the home see their children far less than the Gosslins do. So the children are benefiting. TLC needs to edit the show to show more of the positive rather than focus on the stress of their lives.
Finally, how would Jon like it if the show ended and he had NO help when he was alone with the kids. I don't think he could do it,. Maybe then he would appreciate Kate's obsession with scheudles, routines and her work ethic.
Children are exploited everyday on televsion, this show is no exception. Divorce happens everyday, Jon and Kate are not an exception. The World should be smart enough to know that reality TV is NOT reality, for all the people that say these children are exploited, stop watching the show and reading all the articles about whats going on. These children are not going to grow up like most other children whether they are in front of cameras or not, and family feud or not if my family was talking with the media about my children I would be VERY upset whether I was right or wrong, they are just making the situation WORSE for the children!!!
Yes ~ Jon and Kate should quit the show - actually, it looks like Jon already has.
If they don't quit, TLC should cancel the show. If they don't, I question their priorities. If it's all about making money, it is at the expense of these children.
The show has intruded on these children's lives too much. If they still want a show, a once-a-year show would be more appropriate.
I don't really think the issue here should be whether or not the show should end.... the issue here is where the focus is being placed. If the focus were on the children....why not continue the show? For as long as I've watched it -it's been a great show giving us a glimpse into their world and what it's like to have a huge family and deal with everyday things. The problem started when the focus became about Jon and Kate. If they refocused the show and focused on how the children are doing and transitioning to school then they should continue the show until the children get tired of it, but if all they show....all they focus on is Jon and Kate and the mistakes they've made... then yes, I think the show needs to end.
At the end of the day, having the show has been great for everyone.... the children have documented memories and the money from the show has secured their future. And we have to the remember that this show was on TLC...... not some random channel. It was a learning experience for everyone..... or at least that's how it started.
Yes I believe for the sake of their marriage and children the show should stop. Maybe a new approach is "take a break" skip a season and see if their marriage can be salvaged off camera and if they can come to an agreement on whether they should continue the show in the future. If your a follower of the show you'll understand that its popularity allowed for Jon and Kate to support their family. Jon had his job in IT and Kate's job was being a stay at home mom for her children. It allowed them to travel with their large family a gift that I'm sure many families of multiples wouldn't be able to do. I feel for all them the Children, and Jon and Kate themselves.
The reason I fell in love with the show is that they were real people. They didn't try to be different while the camera's were on. I think Kate is bossy and demeaning almost to an OCD level and needs to have more repect and appreciation for Jon. They are their own person and have their own way of doing things Kate needs to except Jon for who he is and how he does things, and understand that no one is going to do things to her exact specification, and if she want it done that way then she will be doing things by herself and doesn't have the right to complain.
Jon, needs to not enable her, and needs to call her on it when she bosses him or demeans him. He is her husband and doesn't deserve to be treated that way. As far as is his indescretion as an adult and human being he's allowed to go out and enjoy himself occasionally. He should make better choices as to who he gets into a car with and at what hour but what happens between them is there business. I believe that if he wants to be with another women then separate and move on but don't engage in infedility until your free of your other responsibilities.
Oh and paparazzi suck. I read them because they are there, not becausee I go looking for them. As a member of the public I wouldn't miss hearing about their troubles. I hope they survive this and do wish them the best.
I have watched this show many times and have always been left with the inpression that while Kate is basically a good mother, she is not a good wife and has a definate cruel streak to her personality. Mocking your husband on Primetime TV is not a sign of being a loving mate.
I have never met a nurse who is so uncaring about people as Kate appears to be. (It is probably a good thing she quit nursing.)
Jon has always struck me as a whimp and whiny. Definately immature. Hanging out with college kids is not the answer for a father of 8.
It is time they took an break from the show to work on their marriage and save their family. These kids need a "normal" life for a change.
Turn off the cameras and fix your marriage!
Will the Aunt and Uncle get off tv and keep their porch clean please. Folks, this is real life. Parents get to choose the direction and if it's not the right path we make the best out of it. So who's to say if it's right or wrong, we only know part of the story. Pray that they don't totally break up, make it work. He has his place in the marriage and she has hers. If she's the ugly one from time to time...guess what... he knew that before the show and vice versa. The kids will continue to be loved and if some turn out to be cry babies and can't cope–start a group and support. It takes all sorts or people to make the world go round.
Wonder how your reality show would turn out.
I enjoyed the show in the early days when it was about their joint efforts to take care of the babies, etc. but stopped watching when I saw the older two girls start acting out, esp. Mady. Her tantrums and affected way of talking to the camera should have been a tipoff to her parents that it was time to pull the plug. How can a kid possibly cope with their 6 younger sibs sucking all the attention in a normal world, much less a world where you are followed night and day by a camera?
And yes there is a lot of stress trying to take care of a family that large and knowing America is criticizing every move you make. Bet they couldn't possibly take the "shortcuts" you know you and I take to get things done around the house. Kate wanted everything perfect and just so (which IMHO is unrealistic with that many kids 24/7) and Jon is a more relaxed (and to Kate, LAZY) parent. She was trying to be the OCD perfect control freak supermom for all of America and Jon was not doing enough, moving fast enough, etc etc for her. Add the cameras following you everywhere but your bedroom and think how THAT's gonna help??? She emasculated Jon for all to see so I don't think there will be much sympathy for her plight.
End it now, and save yourselves and your children.
Since when has the attention that accompanies celebrity status been good for ANYONE? We see an endless stream of tweens, teens, young and older adults struggling every day to live a normal life in the public eye. It's human nature to be anything but genuine when you know the world is watching. And that's not natural. How then can these children have a prayer? The damage is already done. The Gosselins should have called it quits after one season. OK – raising 8 kids is really stressful – WE GET IT. Now, the family is becoming just another roadside fatality from which we simply cannot turn away.
YES especially Jon he is scum, latest article on people was he stepped out with 2 women over memorial weekend, what a JERK! He and his fake hair should GO!
stop watching the show....it is that simple. They network is allowing the destruction of a marriage for ratings which equals money. So not only has the network threw a entire family and children under a bus; they are managing to throw core family values under the bus. What happened to the principle of marriage and raising a family? What has america come to? What have us as veiwers come to that we sit back and watch this for entertainment value. Shame on the network; shame on the parents and shame on us for allowing it. Just turn the channel.
Kate has some very obvious control problems. She says it so herself. She can't have fun until everything's neat and orderly. She's rude and inconsiderate to Jon. I would truly blame 95% on Kate. And then theres Jon, who may, or may not, have cheated. What he did WAS wrong. A married man does NOT go out and drink with another FEMALE friend. Did he honestly think that no one was watching? They do say that parents of multiples are bound to split from the stress, but is THAT to blame, or has Jon just finally cracked from her crap? I truly believe both Jon and Kate are handling their situation horribly. They're making themselves out to be horrible parents, whether its just the media- or whether its really true. What they NEED to do is turn those cameras off and sit down alone in the house without any kids around and just vent and truly talk about what's gone wrong. WITHOUT CAMERAS.
The facts are this, eight children are very expensive, none of you are paying to support them, and neither are your tax dollars. For better or for worse their parents are supporting them financially. Maybe you don't like the way their doing it but who cares. The kids have developed a relationship with all of the TLC crew working on the show. They are part of their "family" not Kate's brother and his wife. People who truly care don't air dirty laundry in a public forum. That is a fact that no one can dispute. I don't believe for a second that those children are going to be any more screwed up than anyone else's. Their smart, funny and cute and they obviously love each other very much. If Jon and Kate don't love each other any more well that's too bad but thousands of couple's go through that every day. If you want the show off of the air STOP WATCHING IT. Enough said. Oh and good luck Kate, being a single mom sucks, but its really going to suck with eight kids.
The show used to be fun to watch. As time progressed Kates true colors came out – she is a narcissistic, money hungry, celebrity seeker who has alienated all of those people around her who wouldn't 'tow the line'. She is abusive to Jon in every sense and treats the boys so poorly at times it breaks my heart. And her blatant disregard of Madys physical abuse of her siblings is appalling.
While I don't believe that by ending the show everything in their worlds will miraculously be better I do think that it will get them out of the constant media spotlight and afford the family a chance to get the help they all so obviouly need.
Money is not an issue. The residuals from the books and show will keep them more than comfortable for years to come. And the crap about needing to pay for college just makes me angry – the State of PA has already provided for all of the childrens higher educations.
I don't see the marraige surviving. Maybe I'm wrong. Get divorced, let Kate keep traveling for 'work', give Jon custody of the kids (he allows them to be kids and it is obvious he loves them and makes them the priority in his life) because he is the primary caregiver being a stay at home dad. Get Mady some help imnmediately – that kid is a 'True Hollywood Story' in the making.
And shame on TLC for allowing this to happen. The show should have ended a long time ago for the sake of the children.
Frankly, I don't give a damn. Kate is a b**** and Jon is a fool for putting up with her trash. Jon has no backbone...he can't even stand up for himself. The only people that matter are the kids and Jon and Kate are so focused on themselves it's pathetic! What a sad situation but they knew what they were doing when they walked in to this mess and decided to share their dirty laundry with the world!
This family is just like any other family. Only thing is they are getting paid to do what they normally do in a everyday life, showing the world what the life of the Gosselins are. I loved this family from the beginning, and still follow the show. Kate at this point is doing for her and her kids, so that she doesn't have to depend on Jon to take care of her. This is hard work keeping up with the kids, traveling to promote her book, holding down a house hold and finances. I would love to see how someone else would handle her position. For all the pressure she has, I can not say that I have seen Kate melt down or break down at all, any other woman would have by now.
The best part of the show was that Kate didn't insult or mock Jon one single time!!!~~ but appeared to have nothing but utter contempt for him and the "I'm better than Jon " attitude. But I won't watch again. I vote STOP the show-cut their losses-the both parents and children have had more perks from this show than most Americans work a lifetime to achieve. The children don't need the cameras there in this most uncomfortable setting.
And her ridiculous haircut is just as pathetic as her personality:
a boring facade in front with a frizzy mess behind and a pseudo crown on top.
I have been watching Jon and Kate from the beginning. I love the show. I am really upset about Jon and Kate's situation. The media needs to back of and give this family a change. Jon and Kate are like every other married couple that have problem just that there are in the public eyes. I think they should take time away for a season and work on their family. I would like the show to continue but to be positive again because I really enjoyed there family activities. I do not want to see the hurt on there faces because I am divorce. They need time to work this out with no media attention. I pray they work this out for themselves first and the kids. The show is positive because it helps pay the bills and the kids are loved. Kate's brother is wrong what goes around comes around. Kate's brother will get his in end. May God bless you Jon and Kate. Fight for your marriage. The grass is not greener on the other side.
WOW People really? I have always watched the show and enjoyed seeing the kids and the family interaction. Perhaps it has been comercialized a little throughout the years but I think they have been smart in using societys interest to help pay for all the many expenses children (six of whom are the same age) incur on a daily basis. Some people are being ridiculous – are you telling me that if someone offered you free tummy tucks, hair plugs, teeth whitening or whatever that you feel it would be your MORAL obligation to say no! If so, you are a liar. I feel bad for Jon and Kate and I hope they work it out. I beieve that Kate has not treated Jon as nice as she could have. She should apologize to him for that and try and work it out. Jon should realize that he DOES have 8 kids already and though his wife can be hyper critical, he probably very much loves his wife and family. Running away is not going to solve anything. It is alot to take on that many children so quickly and the stress alone must be horrible but what will it be like if they get a divorce? Who suffers? The kids. So whether they are on TV or not the real issue is where do you go from here? Something brought you together and made you want to marry each other...twice! Find that connection, quit thinking about everything else and either work it out or find a way to minimize the horrible harm that a divorce is going to do to your 8 kids....who by the way I believe are very much loved by both their parents no matter what else has gone on. For my last gripe I would like to say that these kids might have been on tv but where is the abuse? They are loved, cared for and though might have been exposed to some media they seem to have weathered the storm so far and are doing pretty great....
I never even wached this show once and I am already tired of it!
The Gosselins are acting. Just because someone decided to call it a reality show, doesn't mean everything is absolutely real. Jon and Kate are instructed on how to behave so that the show gets controversy and ATTENTION drawn to it.
It's for the ratings.
It's for for money.
And it will probably break up their beautiful family, unless they know when to say, "Enough."
Stop giving them attention and let them both work for a living like the rest of us! Maybe then she will come back to the ground of reality and remember that she is a mother of 8 adorable kids who need her – not the world's new superstar.
The show needs to be stopped. As someone pointed out, when the show was about how an AVERAGE family handled 8 kids, it was fun. But once Kate got a taste of "mention you want it and it will be given to you", she became unbearable. I think the kids are adorable, but they are not being brought up as normal kids. Every week, we tune in to see what freebie trip, visit, gift, Kate has negotiated.
Why not just shows us a family doing NORMAL activities?
How about a trip to the zoo, where you don't get special treatment, and just have to walk around and look at the cages like everyone else?
A summer afternoon in the backyard, playing games, laying on the grass looking at the clouds?
Or a winter day, sledding down a local hill?
A visit to the local park on the 4th of July to watch fireworks (that are not going off in your honor)?
What about the kids' joining t-ball or soccer and going to practice?
Girl Scouts? Boy Scouts? Campfire Girls?
Or a trip to the local theatre to see the latest Disney/Pixar movie bringing their own popcorn so they don't have to buy $10.00 tubs?
Or a trip to a major or minor league game where they sit in the bleachers just like a normal family with many children?
And now that they live in their mansion, what about a day spent out by their humongous built-in swimming pool? (which they are very careful not to show on TV ....wonder why?)
And why did the sextuplet birthday party have to be at a local park instead of at the house with its 20+ acres and massive backyard? Was it just to make sure the paparazzi got pics of Kate pretending she was a mother for once?
Take the show off and give these kids a chance to be kids !
Continue the show !!!I If they want record ratings, show how they work through this problem and stay together hopefully? Even if they split, show the cost on the children, the innocent victims. There are a lot of divorced people, who do the child shuffle every weekend and one over night stay a week. Let's see how there lives unravel. Let's see the counciling for Jon and Kate and the kids. Either way it will be a rating record. The kids don't know any better. For one to judge them whetther they should stay or go, is wrong. Jon and Kate could do lots of things with this. As for the kids, They need to know their parents love them, they have a roof over there head, they have food and they are safe, ############ My bet, if they show us how to work through this issue, it will help many of families!!!!!!!!!!
The parents, in their quest for money, have exploited the entire family with media as the accomplice. You would think that people would have learned by now that when a family becomes a media object, the chances of it surviving are nil. You have only to look at all the divorces in the entertainment business. The fact that children are involved makes this particularly obscene and offensive. And we all know that reality programs survive on the air only if they generate negative content (due to our degenerate nature). I do not understand how loving parents could put their children in such a position. I question the motive and love of the parents. Definitely, the show should be taken off the air and the whole family put into counseling.
As for Paul Peterson, am glad to see him step up to the plate – questioning this whole issue. I watched him on TV back in far more innocent times and am impressed that at least a few childhood actors survived those times and are able to give back to society.
Yes, they should stop filming! Let the kids be kids. I think the fact that the grandparents are not included on the show, the fact that Kate did not want Kevin & Jodi to be paid for their appearances on the show (I heard that anyway.....) say a lot about what kind of people Jon & Kate are...Oh and what happened to Beth!?! It appears that they cannot get along with anyone! What's up with that?
Um, yeah, they should quit the show!
I was...well, am still... kind of obsessed with this show because I have quite the soft spot for adorable kids. I have none of my own so it has been fun watching such a beautiful little group crazies grow up into school-aged kids.
Now, I just feel wrong about the whole thing. I don't care about about Jon & Kate and what happens to them, as long as they do what is best for the kids...and themselves. What bothers me is that they are dealing with it so publicly–well, at least Kate is by going on every talk-show known to the American population. How about turning off the cameras and figuring stuff out by talking to EACH OTHER???
I dismiss Kate's case about how she needs to make money. How about selling that ginormous house, giving the puppies to families that actually have the capacity to take care of them (really? Did they need two??) and learn the joys of stay-cations to save money? They are not the only 10-person family in the world, and they are not even the only family with a large litter of multiples. People make it work without all the glamour.
Most of you should be ashamed of YOURSELVES. Who are you to pass judgement on anyone. Just because you watch them on tv, in no way, means that you know these people. You forget that it is a television show. There are contrived stories, editors and production staff. Although this show is based in reality it does not mean that you see the whole senario.
While kate might seem domineering and jon comatose, you do not see what happens behind closed doors or what is left on the cutting room floor. TLC is after ratings. What you see is tailored to induce just that.
Until you have 'walked a mile in their shoes' do not judge their choices. They are just trying to do the best they can to be happy and support their children. Surely they will make mistakes just like you and I. After all, they are just human like the rest of us.
The public loves train wrecks. This is a ratings bonanza because of this very public train wreck.
If Jon and Kate cared about their relationship or the kids, they'd take their train wreck off the air. Ratings and money will insure this doesn't happen.
Kate can't see the forest for the trees: " I don't understand how this happened"....bodyguards, speaking tours, book signings, ummm....hellooooo....
I find it interesting that most of the comments on here want to condemn these parents for making a family choice about what they believe to be best for them. Any marriage is hard, with or without cameras, and the public'sjudgement of their situation is not helping. For people to think that Jon & Kate do not love their children or want what is in their best interest is absurd. As a parent I know that every move I make directly affects my kids and I sure Jon and Kate realize this as well. We all make mistakes, just not on national TV. Back off and let them work things out. Every marriage is worth fighting for if those involved still believe in it. Only Jon and Kate can decide if that applies to them.
Who cares... half of all marriages end in divorce anyway. And they made some money in the process. no one will remember this in 5 years once it goes off the air. Honestly, the children's lives will not be defined by what happened when they were infants, but what they choose to make of it.
From what I see those 8 kids are very lucky to have 2 loving parents who have found a way ( unconventional but still...) to support their children while at the same time spending more time with them than most parents can all the while enabling the family to do things they ordinarily would not be able to do or afford (all the free trips and vacations etc.) What are these people doing that is so wrong?" Yes, the parents are having relationship problems...how many families go through the ame thing? MILLIONS! To all appearances they are handling as well as I have ever seen 2 young parents handle a messy situation. So what if they are being filmed? Does not appear to be affecting the kids at all...they seem like healthy well loved and well balanced kids.
I say they are lucky to have parents like Jon and Kate. Ifirmly believe that Jons' relatives should BUTT OUT....if that were MY family interfering like that they would be told off in short order!!! And don't worry about the Gosselin kids...they will handle it all just fine!
I love Jon and Kate and have been watching the show forever. I think the kids are adorable and I enjoy watching them navigate through life .
I do think that they should put the show on hiatus for the time being to work on their marriage. The marriage and kids should be top priority.
At this point in the situation I think they should ask to bow out of the show. It is not fair to the children and if they have any hope of saving their marriage they will stop focusing on the show, books etc and put the focus back where it belongs, on the family.
I feel for these people. While I never understood why someone would want to have their lives displayed on TV for the world to see, it's heartbreaking to see this family facing the problems they face right now.
Since the first show did focus on Jon and Kate more than the kids this time, I think it may be a good time to continue on that path and let the show demostrate how they are working things out. Basically leave the kids out of it as much as possible while they try to adjust to their parents behaving differently but at the same time show Jon and Kate taking steps to save their marriage. Maybe go to marriage counseling and then discuss what they have learned about each other. As watchers of the show, we have seen things from the beginning that we knew would bring them to this point in their lives. I think it could help others understand how their actions affect their partners in life and turn a negative into a positive. Especially if it helps Jon and Kate preserve their family as a whole. I wish them luck.
Anyone who says that they would quit the show, knowing that it is their only source of income, and that there are 8 children to feed and educate, is full of crap! As far as Kate's brother and his wife Jodi, I find it funny that when they were taped for episodes of the show there was NO mention of the children being exploited – because they aren't!!! I think they are obviously jealous of the Gosselins so they decided to join the many haters! People should get the facts straight about the tapings before they spout out completely incorrect information. If everyone would stop judging them – they may just have a shot at fixing this media mess!!
Yes, enough already. These kids are growing up, just as all kids do. Why do we need to see it on a daily basis? That's life. Kate is organized yes but controlling and all this has gone to her head, she wants to be the star and what's up with writing 2 books for her kids and then publishing them? How about self-publish: keep on your hard drive and let the kids read them when they're ready... Is Jon resentful? I'd be and I don't blame him...she's a bossy female who belittles her husband ('just like a man') and laughs at him when it's not funny. If they were thinking of their kids they'd tell TLC to take a hike, sit down and talk about how they can co-parent nicely and lovingly, and then grow up and get jobs like, gee, I don't know...the rest of us who raise families?!
Too young to have married, have kids, etc. Too late for all that. It is what it is, deal with it, and deal with it in an adult and kind manner. She's not the star. None of them are. Take them off the air.
All this attention to people who are having litters, not children, and overpopulating the planet... Why are we focusing on them? How about attention on people who are adopting and giving children a home and love when they had none...? Whatever happened to ZPG?!!
And all this Kate talk about eating organic. Kate: you live where the soil is rich and the topsoil is deep. Why don't you have a garden and teach your children about growing their own food? And you complained about the party...how about acting like a teacher: it seems as if some teachers can control 8 kids, and often more, better than you can your own 8.
Go away TLC and Kate. And folks: stop watching. And go grow your own garden...
The argument that Jon and Kate need to do the show to pay for their children is ridiculous. There are plenty of large families out there that don't pimp themselves out for cash, and they manage to pay their bills. And I take issue with the comments that have been made more than once by both Jon and Kate that their kids "deserve" the nice things that have come their way because of the show. Why do the Gosselin kids "deserve" free trips to Hawaii, Disney World and other places any more than any other child on this planet??
To me, the most telling comment came from Kate in an interview she gave to "People" magazine. She was asked if she would give up the show to save her marriage. She said no–that the show was "her job." I would think that most mothers and wives would do whatever it took to save their families from destruction. The fact that she would chose the show–and the likely demise of her marriage and family unit–pretty much says it all.
I happened to watch some old J & K Plus 8 episodes over the Memorial Day weekend. These were episodes where Jon had the "balls" to call Kate on the carpet. Kate was a bit dipsy at times but I sure like that person versus the bitch she's turned into. If you're going to constantly treat your husband like a dog, why should it be any surprise that he turns to others to get some better treatment. (Doing in the manner that he did was a dumb move though!) They need to think of the kids...do the kids really deserve having almost every moment of their lives on display for the nation? Are the parents that desperate for the financial gains...sadly it's probably a big YES for Kate; it seems that Jon would be happier without the cameras in his life. It's time to get out of the fishbowl while the kids are young and they can learn what life is all about without extra people in the house who are filming their every move. So what if you can't have the extra perks that the show has brought you, isn't your family worth it...and make special memories on your own, without a production company filming it. Jon, maybe you should consider getting a job outside the house again. I don't think I could survive a 24-7 situation with my husband/kids without going insane.
No, way. But its not for real anyways, its lies to get people to watch the show. Prompting the children to say things. Thats not reality, thats acting. I will never watch the show again. They record the play by play of their lives and then edit it out and add lines to get ratings, How fake is that.
Ask Kate's sister how real this set up is to get ratings!!!
This should absolutely be taken off the air. I consider it some kind of media child abuse. I'm sure the money is great but we're using the lives of 8 children for our entertainment. That is just plain wrong.
It was only a matter of time before Jon left Kate. She is horrible! She is condescending, mean, belittling, and generally awful! Yuck! She handles the kids great, and the household wonderfully, etc etc., but her personal relationship with Jon, is unreal....an impending train wreck, someone said. At the same time Jon is so pathetic. He is such a sad character and stupidly passive. I want to shake him sometimes (not to justify Kate's nastiness).
Hopefully, they can work it out. But, cameras 24/7 are not going to help. TLC needs to give them a break.
Firing over 40 assistants, belittling Jon on every show, controlling and demanding, ignoring the children constantly .... the public already knows Kate is the problem... it just took Jon a little longer. This family needs some drastic changes (99% on Kate's part)... call Super Nanny!
Yes, they should quit. Neither parent is fulfilling their roles as a good mother or father, and the show just plays to their weaknesses, Kate's selfishiness and Jon's laziness. The money earned from the show does not trump the damage it is causing to 10 people's lives. I've only watched a few episodes over the years and was always uncomfortable with it. I won't watch another, because then I would be a part of the problem.
Doesn't anybody else think that this is all a setup to raise their ratings?
It's not fair to the children...especially at this point. For the rest of their lives, recorded forever, possibly for all the world to see, from almost the moment of their birth, they have recorded timeline of how their family fell apart.
I know money and financial security is a consideration and the Gosslins are probably crossing their fingers and biding their time in hopes their scandal will blow over. But at what cost? Your family's respect and dignity? Or children's respect and dignity?
Easy for me to say because I'm not in their shoes, but I don't think it's worth it.
did kate become pregnant with 6 babies "the old fashioned way" or by insemination?
The drama has gone on long enough. If Jon is NOT happy as a married man, there should be some kind of compromise worked out so he can leave the show and Kate can work out something with a "Supernanny" to help her with the kids and the show can continue. I personally don't watch the program "Jon & Kate Plus Eight" any more. I would much rather watch the Duggars "18 children & counting" which is more family oriented.
Money sure helps one live these days, but using the kids to gain the money is wrong. Life if more important than bickering in full view of the children, the media and the audience. It is painful enough to go through marital problems, much less on national TV. Enough!
I agree that having a show to document your children growing up is not the best idea. But at least 6 of the kids have grown up with cameras in their house. I haven't watched the show. But removing cameras might be too many things changing. My parents used to fight when I was child and even though they tried to pretend everything was going to be okay, I could see right through it. Removing cameras from their lives right now might not be good. A transition period might be better.
If all of you are so worried about the children, then stop watching the show! That would end the exploitation.
They should have quit the show a long time ago...BEFORE the marriage started tanking.Marriage and raising kids is hard enough without the media...They need to stop pimping the kids and their problems on prime time for money
No, I think the show should go on. Jon needs to get his lazy self out of the picture. He does not want to be a part of the family obviously he looks like a beach bum. When you have children your life is over. Kate is a strong woman who everyone objects to however maybe Jon needs to get some balls and stand up to her otherwise he should take his whining self off the show. Make the show Kate plus 8 how a single mom can survive.
To: Jennifer May 28th, 2009 8:32 pm ET
They are just trying to support their family. How else are they going to pay for everything for their kids? Who is going to pay their bills?
I'm sick of hearing people say this or reading this, how do you think any couple with a family supports their kids???? I come from a large family, I have and Aunt and Uncle how had 12 children, how do you think they supported their kids??? Certainly wasn't with freebies and a dumb reality show!
I don't think it is fair to the children and I think if TLC had any backbone they would immediately pull the plug on the show. I also don't think Jon and Kate are thinking of their children because they would realize that this is not healthy for the children and it is only hurting them further. I feel really sad for all of these children because they don't understand the situation and their emotions should not be played out on television.
This entire thing smells fishy to me. This is a business. This is not a family reality show. Kate Gosselin is making every dime she can get her hands on and the public is falling for it hook, line and sinker. You can't tell me that after this premiere Jon goes to NYC and stands outside a bar with a beer and two women for the tabloids to get pictures of ...while Kate goes out with her security guard and nanny in NC on a family outing...AT THE SAME TIME...simultaneously getting snapped by the tabloid cameras...and this is not staged?? Please. This is all a stunt and TLC and the Gosselins are laughing all the way to the bank. And the cliff hanger this season at the end will be them getting back together...It's ridiculous.
Has anyone ever noticed that not once, in all of the photos taken of this family, does even one of the children look happy? That says it all right there as far as I'm concerned. Stop worrying and fighting about money, take time to look at your kids, make sure they are happy and healthy.
In other words, an EMPHATIC YES!!! Drop the show and focus on what is truely important. your "public" will live without you, your children won't!
Does anyone get that this is a TV show? It's not what actually happens in real life, it's what the producers script and edit it to be. No one outside the people in that house know what ACTUALLY goes on in there.
Kate has always treated him terrible. She is a controll freak.
If she needs medication, take it. I dont know of a man that would
sit by and take it. It just makes her look bad. Everyone feels sorry for him and the children.
Cancel the show. They both are professional people. They can make a living for their family another way.
KATE WAKE UP.
I think THEY should continue the show minus the kids. Beyond a season, if that's not too long, kids on show might be fine. After that, to me, it's like selling your soul for the money.
Both parents are highly intellegent people; I'm sure they can branch off into something else. I, too, think their marriage is more important than the show.
These selfish parents (Kate) should think of how their children will view this whole thing when they are grown up. I think the kids will resent their parents for airing everything on reality tv to make a buck! I see this whole thing as Kate and Jon wanting money and putting their greed before their family.
I agree, we should all stop watching the show. TLC is turning it into a television drama about a marriage being torn apart because they are in a television drama. Does anyone else see how crazy this is? If your life is so hard in front of the camera and your marriage is being torn apart, then get out in front of the camera! I once thought the show was innocent, cute, and so what if they got some perks on the side, they need it with that many children. I will not be a participant in the unraveling of these children's lives, having been a child of a nasty divorce myself. The season premiere was disgusting to watch, and I think the show should be boycotted. Facebook page, anyone? "Boycott Jon and Kate Plus 8"
Sorry, I don't "buy" into the argument that they NEED this show to SUPPORT their family. The kids are now in school- they could go out and get "regular" jobs, if that gargantuan mansion is too much to handle financially, then they downsize, they seemed to be "fine" in their old house- kids do not care where they live as long as they are looked after, loved and paid attention to. It is the PARENTS' (especially Kate) who now want the "celeb" lifestlye with all the perks- mansion, cars, freebies galore, trips to exotic and fun places, etc. at the EXPENSE of exploiting their precious children for financial gain! It's Disgusting and I wouldn't be surprised if any of these children show some sort of emotional damage as they get older- how can they not? when their whole lives- potty training, bathing, personal home stuff has been broadcast to the masses. Quit complaining that you can't "survive" without the show (they have amassed a $10million+ fortune) and start showing that you are responsible, caring, loving parents' looking out for the welfare of your children. If parents' don't step up to the plate in protecting their kids, who will? Enough! Quit the d*** show already and focus on your disengrating marriage and family!
A question was asked in the article "It appears that now the show is recording the downfall of a marriage- are viewers still going to want to watch that?" I think yes. Sadly I think people like to watch when everything comes crashing down. I don't think Kate will quit the show though, if they split the show will be about her raising the kids alone.
It's obvious they love their children and at one point loved each other, is it worth the heartbreak in all parties for money? I just hope they can work it out for the kids, I refuse to watch the downhill spiral in their marriage just so they can get more money in their pockets.
As somebody who just went through a divorce, they need to put the children first. The worst thing for them to do is to continue on with the show. Personally, I refuse to watch the show any longer simply because it does not need to be encouraged for the sake of the children.
I remember when I was younger, PBS did a reality show about a family. Back then they called them documentaries. I believe their name was Louden? The wife asked the husband for a divorce on camera. It was almost anticlimatic since we had been following the family for a while.
Check out this web site. It was going LONG before all the media blitz in teh past few months – very good stuff. And links on how to write letters to TLC, etc.
I am a fan of the show, and am so disappointed with how the show has turned into something completely different from what it once was. I understand that the show has given the Gosselin family so many things (SO many things!) that they wouldn't have received if they didn't have the show, but I wonder if Kate thinks "Are all of these trips and the new house and the clothes and dogs and salon trips really worth losing my morals and family's respect?" She says she is so Christian, yet as "humble" and "poor" as their family is, she does not seem to have any regrets for beating down Jon and constantly leaving her kids at home for her dumb book tour. As a viewer, I can see that Jon really does just want his privacy and to protect his growing children from the media, but if Kate really does love her family, and as bummed as if would be to not see their adorable kids on TV anymore, she needs to give up the show. If not to try to save your marriage and family, at least do it to save the small shred of dignity she has left.
YES! Get this trash off the airwaves...why should anyone care to watch this garbage?
I watched the show – but not often. I could never stand Kate's treatment of her husband. Jon taking it was making me feel mad at him and sad for him at the same time.
They both have good qualities – she is organized; he is loving. But her constant abuse – in front of her children – towards Jon is a shame. These kids will learn their roles based on their parents behavior.
I honestly think Kate needs help – she says she's sorry but keeps on doing it. If she thinks she "married down" she will have a rude awakening if she tries that stuff with another man.
Shame on you, Kate. You live on $5.00a day like you made Jon do – you humiliate him every chance you get.
As to the show, maybe things would be worse if the staff wasn't there. Maybe they keep Kate in line.
I think they should quit the show. It's an emergency. Their marriage is comatose, but it's not dead until it's DEAD. If they're going to keep shooting anyway, they might as well tape some marital counseling sessions...if nothing else some viewers might learn some good pointers too. I know we're not there when the cameras aren't rolling, but it just seems as though Jon & Kate already gave up on the marriage, and that's what makes me super duper sad. What an amazing blessing it would be to those kids if the "show" had a happy ending. They could watch it back as adults and see again that mommy and daddy had problems, but they stuck together. That's what happened with my own parents, and they could have given us kids no greater gift than to stick through it and work it out. They even love each other in the end. Come on Jon and Kate.
BTW...if we all tuned out she would go AWAY....
I admit I was a fan of the show. However, after Monday's episode (which I was hesitant to watch) I decided enough was enough. The show has definitely changed focus. Is the price of fame really worth losing your family?? If it were me, I'd give it all up in a nanosecond if it meant saving my marriage, my family. After their 15 minutes of fame are up - what will they have left??
Should they quit the show? It seems money and fame is really important to Kate. Her family does not come first or she would stop the nonsense. But another comment mentioned 18 and counting? They are more than happy to accept the new home in the name of God?..Give me a break. Money talks and these families are taking advantage of it. Frankly, I am sick of seeing Kate and Jon in the news. But gossip hounds love it and it sells crap journalism. Let's do a series of how my daughter is barely making ends meet and pay her student loans..POOF..she'd be rich and have no debt.
YES! Quit the show. TLC should refuse to renew it (but they are a network... they won't). Your family comes before fame. I think Jon knows that... at least he knows it better than Kate!
The second things headed south, these parents should have said 'enough.'
Now maybe they've set up a lifestyle that 'requires' them to continue to maintain it. But we, the viewing public, have a choice.
Let's turn our eyes from the accident victims. The kids.
I am amazed by some of the comments here.
To Susan Satterfield, you comment that we don't have to pay for their college educations, etc. Unfortunately, that is SOOOO not the issue. Those kids will all be in college at the same time, but have you ever heard of financial aid?? That is what it is designed to cover – paying for education when the parent's income can't. My bro and sis-in-law have 14 children (stair-stepped 11-15 months apart) – they were a one-income family (and not a very high income at that), but they learned how to scrimp and save to give those kids what they NEEDED The kids all went to a Catholic school (financial aid after 3 kids) and there were always 4 in college at a time (financial aid again). The kids had their meals and had decent clothes (thank goodness for school uniforms). Kids don't NEED designer clothes and a 1.3 million-dollar house and trips to Hawaii and Utah while they are too young to understand and enjoy them. What they need is love and attention. While neither Jon or Kate are perfect parents, at least Jon spends time with them and plays with them. All Kate does is yell and organize. And just for the record, if you watched the show a lot, Kate is the one that wanted Jon to have hairplugs and get in shape – I'm sure Jon wanted it too, but Kate ragged on him about his receding hairline and his weight gain constantly.
Give me a break-You fools want to claim child abuse, exploitation of the kids, greed and the such. Fact is if the media would just stop blasting everything they do, every minute of the day, playing up to the "soap opera" ideology of the whole thing, then maybe they could work things through.
Who are "we" to judge anyone?? The media should be ashamed of themselves for how they are playing this whole scenerio out in the public eye.
Give them some space for gods sake, let them try to work things out without everything being posted in every gossip rag daily.
If they can't work things out between themselves, so be it.
But back off idiots and media and let them try without constant survelience by everyone.
I feel Jon and Kate need to concentrate on their marriage and their children. Life is too short and family is important. Each other are too blame and putting the blame on one is not correct. Take time away from the show and get life together not just for the kids but for themselves. Maybe do a special 3-4 times a year. I would love to see them make it.
She wants this circus because its all about her and her "celebrity"....She is an awful mother to the kids and a terrible wife to him. Stopping the show to save the family should be number one but its far from it to her.
I feel for Jon and Kate because my own marriage has been where theirs is now. It's the most awful feeling in the world and I can not imagine being able to think and react clearly knowing the world is watching....let alone the crew in my house. They need to quit the show for the sake of their marriage....which will ultimately benefit the children as well. And Jon needs to get a job so he can feel like a man again. An affair is never the problem, but rather a symptom of a much deeper problem.
Plain and simple......Reality TV is JUNK....its a joke, its trash, it ruined this couples marriage, and for them to keep going with it, during this, shows that maybe they are unfit to be a parent!!.....This world needs to get back to respecting each others privacy....meaning no more Reality tv, no more twitters, or facebook up to the minute "what are you doing" messages.....
Its just all crap.....
Why is this even a question?
This weekend, I watched the marathon of Jon & Kate plus 8. I tried to block out all the negative comments that have been made over the last couple of months. i remembered as I watched, how I felt when these shows first aired. My 15 year old son came home one day from school and told me he heard some of the girls at school talking about this show. Could I find out when it came on. From that moment in season 2, we rarely missed an episode and if we did, we found the repeats that week and made sure to catch it. We enjoyed watching the little ones grow up. We always noticed that Kate is a very dominant person. But, to the question.... I understand that now they have upsized and truly the show has turned into a business instead of the original way to document their children's lives. No matter how Kate treated Jon, he always seemed to want to please her. He would get up and get the kids ready for school, while she slept, and when he would arrive home, it was as if she turned them over to him. Now he has quit his job to stay home while she "works" away. I think she uses the "work" as a way to be away. Is she now saying it's his turn to stay home with the kids. I hate to see the show end. I think if Kate would take responsiblitly and limit her traveling and stay home more, they could work things out. I noticed that the "family help" , Jodi, Jenny, Beth, where were they. How do they feel about this now? I think the fame has gone to Kate's head. She needs to go back to the way it was in the beginning. The books will sell themselves without here being on the road all the time. I heard a comment on the today show the other morning about her needing this job especially if she were going to be a single parent supporting her children. Uh, wake up, the daddy is staying home with the children, she may be supporting her children and Jon may be the recipient of the 21st century daddy getting child support!
With EIGHT children, a household to run, and TV cameras in your face ALL THE TIME, how in the world would anyone have time for an affair? My husband and I raised three rowdy boys into adulthood. At times we were so exhausted from family, jobs, yardwork, car maintenance, homework, boy scouts, track meets, band concerts, grocery shopping etc, etc, etc,........ the list goes on and on, we barely had enough energy to do anything else. If they quit the show, which they should do, what kind of job can he get to support a huge family like that. I feel sorry for them all.
No. And just like a big part of this country's drug problem is the 'customer', TV watchers should send a message to Nielsen and avoid the show. Being a voyeur, whether of pain or of intimate moments (or both), is despicable. And to call the story of this unfortunate family anything like 'reality' is a big stretch. Turn off the mikes, the cameras, the spotlight, and better yet, the show itself.
Un-reality TV will not die the death it deserves until people stop watching it. This show is just like all the others, exploiting people for the network's own goals. John and Kate volunteered to display their stupidity to the world, but I volunteer to ignore it.
Face it this is the only way they can support those kids. I mean where else are they going to get the money to feed that brood. Jon is a college drop-out and slacker. Kate is the epitome of trailer trash. You can tell she's not used to anything. Plus, as Americans we love a good train wreck on TV.
They should not do one more minute of this show. They need to shut the cameras off and Jon and Kate need to get some serious help for the sake of their kids. And if things work out, they can think about going back to the show. This show is not what it used to be. It now seems all about the money. What a shame.
"The kids the kids!" Give me a break! "How is this going to affect the kids?" They seemed to have thrown their bratty fits in front of the camera just fine. In fact isn't the camera all they know? It's coming whether the camera is there or not. Whether we're watching or not. I just think there's a lot of hearts out there watching that can't take the not so happy ending. Boo to you if that is the case. I'm thinking FINALLY some reality! Isn't that what we all liked to think we were watching.
I think Jon and Kate had problems before the 8 kids and the TV show, but those things have exacerbated them. Kate is very aggressive and controlling and Jon has little self-respect because he doesn't stand up to her. No marriage can survive such mismatched personalities.
They should quit the show, even it means breaking a contract with TLC, and get do some hardcore therapy.
I say stop the show!!! Also I want to know if there is money being put away for each child. The state of Pa. does not have laws on this subject . I want to know what we can do to fix this! California has the right laws. So if Jon&Kate Plus 8 was being filmed in CA. this show would be illegal. Kate says she wants to get her own talk show. She also want to do a childrens and a womens clothing line. Good, go do it! that would be a great way to keep the money rolling in. Just stop this trainwreck with T.L.C. Quit doing this show now!!! For the children!!!
Wow amber, let them handle it privately?!? I agree, BY TAKING THE SHOW OFF THE AIR!! People love trainwrecks, and this is one. The kids are being exploited and I was happy to see a lawsuit is on the way. Hollywood is litered with drug addled former child stars that at least got some money. What are these kids going to get for years of providing rating and profits to TLC? Probably a whole lot of nothing other then some phobias, some addictions, some broken marrieges of their own.
It is time they stopped filming and worked on their marriage.
Their responsibility is to their children to make this marriage work. Would suggest counseling is the first step. You don't just walk away from eight kids without trying first.
Jon should stay close by for the kids, but should probably walk from Kate. She is toxic and will never change, IMO.
I think it's disgusiting. I went through a divorce but my children were kept out of it. My ex-husband and I are still friends and the kids are healthy and happy.t5p
Who are we to decide the fate of their show and livelihood while we co-conspire to watch if they stay on? If they decide to continue the show this does not make them less of parents of more any less then if a couple going through a rough time decides to continue to go to work every day. That is the reality of this. I am sick and tired of this way we use people like John and Kate and put them up on a pedestal just to tear them down later on, marriage is never easy none the less when you have eight kids and lots of work. Why should they stop the show? It baffles me that anyone can say the "kids" are being exploited, How?!?!?!?! They go about their regular and normal life’s and gets video taped, how is that being exploited? Why don’t people try being sportive to them, they have been great parents, charitable and a good couple that is going through a hard enough time without anyone else putting in their two cents as if we had a clue what they are going through.
time to wrap production, get into counseling, and then get into family counseling. jon and kate have not been talking for some time, and the little slings and hits have thus escalated into Hurt and Hate, With 8. must-flee TV, with most of their friends alienated.
time to silently move someplace in Oklahoma, change the hair, and blend in quietly and raise the kids.
Two years ago I commented to my wife he was a wet blanket and shouldn't tolerate her daily B.S. This entire thing is his fault only because he can't stand on his own two feet.
Jon and Kate had the intentions of showing the daily life with two 3 yr olds and 6 babies, but GREED started to creep into their lives with free this and free that. There are families who have 4, 5, or more children who scrape by but show their spouse and children love and respect. So, get therapy, or go your own way and leave the show. People have their own problems, do they need yours too?
Jon, go back to work and Kate, go back to work outside the home, then maybe you won't be so hateful.
It's really TOO bad!!!!!
I think they should definitely quit the show and concentrate on their marriage and their children. I have watched it for years and always enjoyed it, but cannot watch it anymore.
I think they should both get real jobs, make car payments, house payments, worry about where their next meal is coming from, etc. Now that's reality!!
Just my opinion.
Yes they should, and from which state will they collect welfare from?
I believe Paul and all of you noisy people are out of your minds. None of you were concerned with this family before all of this turmoil. Leave them alone and let them live their lives. You guys obviously NEVER watch the show. I watch to see the precious little faces of those kids. You are full of it to believe viewers watch for the back and forth between Jon and Kate. And, all of you perfect people GET OFF Kate's behind. I can relate to her. She has 8 children and yes Jon helps but, there is always a time when her organized mind and his disorganized mind are going to see things differently. Oh I am sorry you guys have perfect little marriages where you get along without any arguing. I think a relationship where you expression your frustrations with the other person is healthy. Sorry Paul!!!! Sorry Jane V !!! CNN just had a report on about people living longer if they express their emotions than keep them bottled up inside. Live the people and kids alone. Concentrate on important issues like why the crap do we have so many elderly people on low income without drug assistance while we have young people over here getting a check never worked a day in their lives and I am working my ass off to pay for their medicaid.
You people kill me with your pettiness
The season premiere was just plain sad. I think the show needs to stop so this family can have a chance to reconnect with one another. Raising 8 kids would be hard enough without doing so in front of TV cameras. Jon and Kate's priorities should be their children and their marriage, not entertaining an audience. TLC should go back to just doing an annual special on the family so that they can re-establish some sort of normalcy in their lives.
Who cares about this show or the idiots who actually watch it????
In the best interest of the kids, Jon and Kate should quit the show. Millions of viewers do not need to see a marriage deteriorate. If they do not, then they chose to continue the show for greed and money.
i think these people that are talking about the gosselins and the show have not even see the show. watching it one or two times even just the third season dont have room to talk. how can any one say bad things about people and a show that you dont even watch or follow. i am a big fan my family and i and we dont want to watch everything unfold like they say i feel like im apart of theses kids life nothing bad was going on till people started opening their mouth about the show. you all are the ones making it bad for the kids. so leave it along and let them get back to the family. it is the same as home videos. so those of you that have not followed the from the start just dont talk you dont know what you are even talking about. diana from texas
I heard on a news report that they get between $25 & $50 grand per episode. Given they have 8 kids, I doubt they'll be quitting anytime soon.
For heavens sake take it off the air. It is not healthy for the children or the spouses involved
I think the show should continue. This is a reality show – marital problems and divorce happen in real life and everyone learns to handle it to the best of their ability. If the children visibly show signs of the inability to handle the show with what's going on with Kate and Jon then the decision needs to be revisited. I don't necessarily think the kids are being exploited – they have a tremendous amount of benefits from being on this show in the monitary sense. With 8 young children it would be impossible for both parents to work full time and with just one salary coming in I don't see how it would be financially possible to support the children. Even with medical insurance, co-pays and deductibles could be astronomical for a family that size, food is getting more expensive by the day too. The children wouldn't be exposed to the trips they get to take either. They wouldn't be able to afford the cooking classes the older girls get to take, and all the little extras that children today need and desire. These kids are used to getting to do more than the average child because of their stardom, to take that away as well as having to deal with emotions because the family is falling apart is taking too much away at once. Kate seems pretty uppity saying she's always made more money than Jon but if the show goes away I doubt that all book deals and talk show appearances would continue for long and she would be back to nursing, which pays well but you can't support 8 kids on a nurses salary.
Jon still denies the affair – who's telling the truth and who's not? Kate treats him like dirt, if he did step out on her it wouldn't surprise me, yet she seems to think the way she treats him is fine. I doubt the marriage will survive ..
I heard that Kate said they have a mortgage and can't sell their old house. This is incorrect. They make HUGE amounts of money. Neither Kate nor Jon are good parents. She is worried about making money and promoting her book and he wants more freedom. They should not have had any children to begin with let alone try for more after the first two. Shame on them.
How about the other large families who do not get the benefits that are GIVEN to Jon and Kate. I say GIVEN not earned. They earned money in their prior jobs. They are now GIVEN money from the lemmings that watch this show.
I don't think there is any debate. They need to get their marriage back on track if they want to see their 8 kids grow into 8 well adjusted adults. Take a break from the show.
Everyone needs to get a life, stop watching tv, and worry about your own life and not others. People are so busy watching other peoples lives on tv that they don't even realize they're not living there own.
I think that the show started as a great opportunity for this family to provide for their brood, and we as viewers/fans were treated to what was an innocent and innocuous peak into the lives of a bunch of great kids. I know that I certainly couldn't have anticipated a meltdown of this scale and consequence, and I doubt the Gosselins did either. Looking at it with the benefit of hindsight, however, it's pretty clear that the production needs to stop for the benefit and welfare of the kids. We can all help to make that happen by not watching.
The children are adorable, but life isn't just snapshots of cute kids. Yes, filming should end. Perhaps, if contractual conditions must be met, they could do updates on the children.
They are like most parents trying to raise their kids. They are getting lost in parenthood. Just think back to when your kids were little, you only had time for them most of the time and no one else. My children are 13 and 9.Believe me my husbands and mine relationship is no where near what is was before the kids came along. Jon probably needs to get back into the work force and be around grown up people with out being filmed all the time. That has to get old. As far as the brother and sister-in-law getting on TV and complaining, I think SHE just wants her five minutes of fame. Family does not do that to each other. Like everyone has said, they have to pay the bills some how and this seems to be working for them so far.
I really think Jon and Kate should quit this show and concentrate on their marriage and their children. These kids need both parents.
If you really think about it, years ago, there were bigger families than they have today. My parents had 6 kids to take care of, only my dad worked and my mom stayed home with the kids, and they were able to make a good home life for us.
Today, it seems like the entertainment industry has to come up with "new" things to keep the public interested so they can make millions off of other peoples lives. And I do believe it's exploitation of children who cant or dont understand what is really going on around them. And the papparazi, is now following them around everywhere they go, its like they're being hunted..and in a way they are, and the pictures are probably being sold to the highest paying tabloids. Its a real mess.
I think these parents need to take a step back, regroup, figure out how to fix their marriage, and figure out a different way to financially support their family, it can be done without being on a TV show.
I think this situation is a shame. It is unfortunate that the fortune has stunted Jon & Kate in good making decisions; and then to blame the media is not taking responsibility. Really, if you put yourself and your family in the living room of America- HELLO- your anonymity is instantly gone. If you want so much privacy, why continue with the show and don't say to provide for your family. Other families (with 8 or more children) aren't pimping their children out. GET A JOB!! Plus, really folks, if you are "avoiding the paparrazi" do you really get dressed to the 9's, and take all 8 children out to get party favors? Really? Plus, do you really have the party in a public (outdoors) park when trying to avoid publicity. Give me a break...
Kate has stated that doing the show was the only way to support the family. Why don't her and Jon go back to their old jobs. Her job as a nurse pays pretty well and she can work the week-ends while Jon works the during the week. The bottom line though is that they should have stopped at two children. She new darn well that placing 7 embryos in her uterus ( one was not viable) that the chance was there that all would be born alive and well. They should both feel blessed that none had serious long lasting problems after birth.
Who cares anymore? I don't watch the show and didn't even know who these people were until 2 weeks ago. But really, they want to put their kids through all this on TV? That's sick and greedy and as bad as that crazy octo-mom chick. They should think about what their kids are going to think of them 10 years from now - a little bitterness about their childhood? Most definitely so. It's amazing what people will do for spotlight attention.
However, I believe TLC and it's owner Discover Communications should not pursue such a show that is no longer emphasized in the children and the growing pains of such a large family. Instead, TLC is now capitalizing on the downfall of a marriage with no regard to the future of the children they used to seem to care about.
According to Discovery Communications website regarding Corporate Social Responsibility, their mission is to " to satisfy curiosity and make a difference in people's lives by providing the highest-quality, nonfiction content, services and products that entertain, engage and enlighten"
They sure are making a difference in the Gosselins' lives...
IMHO, this show is no longer of the highest-quality either.
For the sake of their family, they should get off the show and try to
put their family back together...The fame and the $$ not worth the
pain these little children are feeling.
I think they should quit the show and work on their marriage. I don't think they can continue on with the show and give their marriage an honest chance at the same time. Their wedding vows were to each other not to TLC.
What did Kate's sister-in-law and husband say about them, I
End the show- I blame both of them. they had a nanny and she now is on the road promoting her books and public speaking engagments. I loved the show my kids and I would watch it and DVR it all the time but it looks like they both changed after making money and moving into the big house. The more money they made the more they wanted and the kids were pushed aside.. walk away and do the right thing for the kids.
I think Jon & Kate should regain their focus on family and realize this show has been their ultimate downfall. Watching a broken family, broken hearts and broken children is not my idea of entertainment. After the season opener, I will no longer contribute to the demise of this family by continuing to be a viewer. Maybe if enough people stop watching, this family can get back to "real"ity and rebuild their family.
Well for starters, it looks as if the marriage is completely over! I use to watch this show with my little girl who is eight, but did not let her watch their season 5 premier show which I am glad of now. TLC should not go on with this show and let the family try to heal as best it can.
And if the parent or parents want their show to continue through this mess than they derserve all the media storm that is hitting them now.
Good luck to the eight children caught in all of this by no doing of their own!
They ABSOLUTELY need to reevaluate things and STOP the show. It is clear that John already wants to do so...if Kate chooses to continue to do the show at risk of her marriage and the well-being of the kids, then that shows her true colors.
I heard Kate say on the season premiere that if the kids are 'safe, healthy and happy', then she is fine with her choices. Well, that's a very superficial way of looking at things. One of the greatest gifts two parents can give their children is the security of a loving, commited marriage. Divorce is devastating for children.
I just can't see how it's even up for debate at this time.
Yes, maybe in the future they can do a follow-up special on the family for TLC, but they need to step back and get out of all of the current madness.
No, it's not fair, it is exploitation. Simple as that. And there is NOTHING real about 'reality' TV.
I love the TV show Jon and Kate plus 8. But I think now is the time to stop airing the show. There is so much pressure on Jon and Kate and the children.
Kate has always said her main concern is her children.... lets see if she really meant that. She has to be blind not see where this show has taken her family down the wrong road. I do like the show and have also enjoyed watching it. Not anymore. I think we need to take a long hard look at ourselves if we enjoy watching a family fall apart, or take part in publishing false information just to get ratings or sell magazines.
We should be lifting people up instead of trying to knock them down.
The way I see it, Jon wants the show to end so they can have a normal life but Kate just loves the limelight and putting Jon down just to show she's a "strong woman" and "will not lay down". Not even for her children? Come on! She knows what's caused the problems and yet she still insists on doing the show! Jon would give it up in a heartbeat but not Kate. Who would watch her kids if she gave up the show? How could she afford the trips, the clothing for everyone, the trips to the salon, etc? I do not see her giving up the show for her family. Oh, she she doesn't have an attitude on occassion. She has an attitude all the time. She's even admitted that she's hard on Jon. And the way she talks to him, not as a husband, but as a child. She talks worse to him than I ever would to my worst enemy. She's just mean.
Yes it is wrong, and no Kate won't pull the plug. She will sacrafice anything for the money and fame.
They really need to quit doing the show. I watched it last year and you can hear Jon himself saying he didn't want to do it anymore, but that Kate ignored him by saying that they would be back. Im also really getting sick and tired of Kate saying they "need the money". There are alot of parents who have 8 kids or more that are making it without a tv show and exploiting their kids. They work.
IT IS TIME TO QUIT!
At this point, the press and media is not going to let it go. Therefore, I believe for not only the childrens sake but the parents as well, they should cancel the show.
Why are people only picking on this particular family for exploiting their children? What about the show "18 and Counting"? What about "Table for 12"? What about "Little People, Big World" Why aren't people trashing those parents. Just because things are a little sour now, people want to be judgemental. If people weren't into the show, it would not have lasted this long.
I have read the comments left by the compassionate members of society. My first thought is what hypocrisy from a bunch of total self centered, self indulgent gossip mongers. These are the kind of people who feed on the trash papers at the super market checkouts and encourage those so called photo journalists as they do everything they can to trash anyone with a reputation be it either good or bad. I am hoping Jon and Kate are playing the audience for the fools that they are. All you sympathy mongers worried about the children are so full of crap its amazing. All you commenter’s trashing these two are in my humble opinion single wide trailer trash who eat chili dogs sitting on the couch watching Ophra.
I don't think that either Kate or Jon are bad parents. They have got caught up in this show which has become a lifestyle for them. Obviously they have to feed and support a large family and need the income which the show provides. However that show has also been destructive toward Jon and Kate's relationship. What is happening is that Kate sees this situation as her new career and Jon is done with being on camera and wants to go back to a quiet life with his family. This is the wedge that is driving them apart. But in order to be effective parents, they need to be able to work together. What they have to decide is, is it more important to be part of this show in order to financially support the family or is maintaining their own relationship more valuable?
Here's the low down. It started all innocent enough. Yay we are freaks we have 8 kids hurray! And for a stint it was cute, but then the show became nascar...meaning they just kept eating up the sponsors for freebees which i admit is cool but then there was a severe change in Kates attitude. She would rather do tv then focus on the well being of her kids.
I mean well being mentally. You can't go on tour with 8 kids first off. I mean the kids don't get enough individual time with their parents as it is. Second Maddy and Cara are treated like red headed step children compared to their siblings. They are going to have severe issues as adults.
Someone also said...How are they going to support 8 kids..sniffle sniffle.
They are adults...WORK!!!
And going from a cozy neighborhood, bargain shopping to a $1.3 million dollar house with land....Somethings wrong.
This season alone is 40 episodes reportedly. They get paid $75,000 an episode....grand total: $3,000,000 for the season
Wow i feel really bad for them.
You know the Duggers may have 18 kids but even before they had a show they had the means and intelligence to take care of them with love and understanding. Not bitterness and greed.
I enjoy this show-I'm sorry for the martial problems,just think Kate needs to back off and not be so controlling all the time.I think the children are doing just fine and seems to be just like normal little children with everyday lives–I do think Jon and Kate are very much interested in their children's welfare and the children are being well taken care of by both parents. Hope the show stays on the air.
I've already written to the TLC channel, saying that my partner and I will no longer be watching the show, UNLESS we hear that the couple are getting marital counseling. Yet the rumor that TLC may be negotiating to have the camera in on counseling...and I realize it's only an unsubstantiated rumor...disgusts us. That would be unethical and I'd think could cause the therapist to lose her/his license.
The show is currently too depressing and tragic to watch. And if it takes audience rebellion to force help for the kids and couple, so be it.
I personally like the show. As theyhave said on several occasions, each chaild can be as involved or not involved in each filming session as they choose. Jon and Kate are having problems... what?!?! you are telling me they are not perfect? Well, thats weird, cause I thought that all people on TV were perfect. Point is, they are going through a rough time, everyone does. I imagine that if my life were dedicated to 8 kids 24/7, there would be rough patches in my life also.
If Jon wants to go out and have a good time once in a while, he deserves it. Same with Kate. Her idea of a good time is book signings. They are not required to do any of the extra book writing or signings but she chooses to.
No one cared until Jon showed up at a bar. This is dumb.
Jon and Kate made their bed and now have to lay in it. I do not feel sorry for these two at all, what I do think is terrible is the children are caught up right in the middle of all this without a clue of what is going on. They need to end the show, their marriage and try to make the best future possible for their children. If they continue down the path they are walking now it's the children who suffer the most when their older.
I know that it is expensive to raise 8 children. But they need to stop the madness and let their children live peaceful, safe lives. And please stop with the he said, she said stuff. Ugly! Ugly! I won't watch this anymore. It is very painful.
It never should have been a show in the first place. Reality TV has become ridiculous. It is simply sponsored exhibitionism. The more likely you are to make a fool of yourself, the more likely you'll get viewers. The icing on the cake is you get to be judged by several million strangers. Its not worth it in my opinion.
I think Jon/Kate represent the double standard we put on society. Because they appear to be fairly well educated & neat in appearance , we overlook what we wouldn't in a family in a not so educated poorer class.
They really need to think of what they are doing to the children !
Yes–kids have been exploited enough–do a once-a-year show; mom is opportunistic, dad appears to have had enough. Call it a day–take the money you have earned and live more frugally.
I think it's appalling how the media is playing this thing out; they're human beings with children and like most families are obviously having some up and down – mostly down- at this time. The vilification of this couple at such a time is evil. Back away and give them time to work through their problems, while I would not put my family on a reality show, I don't judge others who do. It could be for the financial benefit of the entire family and will probably help pay for the education of all those children. I'm a mother of 3 and the thought of putting 3 through college at the same time is overwhelming for me, much less putting 8. Her brother's opportunistic, Judas interview leaves me speechless, with a brother like him, who needs TMZ!
My prayer for this couple is that they grow stronger together and they heal the obvious rift in the marriage. Shame on anyone else who treats them with such harshness, try to walk in their shoes if you can – how'd you feel if this was your family?
I only feel sorry for the children. As for Jon and Kate. This is what they signed up for. The media is what it is and if you put yourself or your family out there during the good times, expect that in bad times you're going to be out there also. So don't blame the media, or people being in their business for the demise of their marriage. They are not the only parents to have a large number of children. Millions of people have done it before them and most probably manage quite well providing for their children without a television show, book deal, nannies or the use of the neighbors and family to help them. Kate is a self-centered woman and anyone who has watched the show can see this. Some people say that she is strong woman, well I think that she is totally the opposite. Strong people are not threatened by others and clearly if she can't control everything and everyone around her, she goes ballistic. All I can say for Jon is that he needs to grow a pair and be a man . If he is seeing someone, he needs to stop it until he and Kate decide if they want to save their marriage. I think that the kids futures are pretty much taken care of (financially) so they will survive if the show doesn't continue.
Fame is a double-edged sword....they didn't seem to mind when the fame was positive but now that it's turning ugly they are complaining about it....maybe if they focused more on the children's welfare and their marriage than on producing a reality show , then maybe things would be better at home
I just don't get it. Why do the Americans always treat "sex" in such a strange way. When done properly it is one of the best cardio-vascular exercises out there. There are plenty of self-help video's to show anyone how to do "it" correctly. From what I read both Jon and Kate might have taken part in a little extra-marital exercise. This should not be seen or hyped up as infidelity... it was just sex!!! Hardly something to break up a marriage over. In fact they might even consider a spin off for the show Jon and Kate, the girlfriend and the bodyguard or Jon and the bodyguard, Kate and the girlfriend. A number of combinations could be envisioned ... every episode would be a ratings getter.
Yes, they should quit, but money is more important now.
Simple solution: STOP WATCHING. If there are no viewers, there will be no more show.
What needs to remembered as well is the very large number of children who tune into this once child friendly program.
Kate and Jon decided they wanted photographs and documentation about their kids that they would miss, but do they really want the downfall of a beautiful family of ten to be documented and watched by millions? I wish Jon and Kate all the luck in the world repairing the problems with their family and marriage.
OF COURSE they are exploiting the children. can you imagine the kids feelings when they are grown and watch it all, even before the divorce talk. For poor Mady, to realize she was 'the brat' and Joel (or whichever) was the lazy one who didn't want to be potty trained and hear their parents telling the world about each kids issues.....it's wrong to do that. I can understand having the show back when it was just a few episodes a year, etc. But really 40 episodes a year???
This is so very sad. Is Kate really that different than the Octo-Mom? Seriously. Its about the money for them, not the children. They won't quit the show since ratings are so high, they probably have a contract, and the paycheck is undoubtedly up too. It always boils down to "The Almighty Buck".
Above all else – protect the children!
America apparently wants to see this.
First it was the spectacle of a "normal" family with 8 kids- including 6 newborns. We watch how a family like that gets along, and then that normal family experiences sudden celebrity. Suddenly things aren't so normal- but there are book deals, and Television money, hell maybe even a few endorsements- The Gosselins get rich. They move into an enormous house and their lives seem to become less interesting since the normality of their relationship that people used to identify with has disappeared.
For 5 years we have seen how the Gosselins have managed to get along. We have seen them go from A single income family with Jon as the breadwinner on a normal salary with family and friends helping Kate out at home as she struggled to keep the kids healthy and well to a complete absence of the average person's reality. Now Jon stays at home, and the family and friends have been replaced by a cadre of professional caretakers corraling the kids through outtings trying to give the show some "content".
So what next? We watch the meltdown of the marriage. America wants to see it. That is why the tabloids sell so many issues, and why so many tuned in for the first episode of the season. We have seen how a family like this can succeed, now we want to see how they fall.
Jon needs to run, not walk from that marriage IMO. People like Kate are toxic, and never really change. Always stay close by for the kids. Put them first. Rise above the emotion and treat each other well for the sake of the kids. Is that even possible when Kate treats Jon like a door matt even before all this?? I hope so.
I think they should be talking to each other, not playing the "hurt, mad at each other parties" for the cameras. I think they are both being jackasses. They should try and save their relationship. She has faults and so does he. We all do. They should turn the cameras off for awhile and really, seriously talk about this. It is no longer about the show, it is about how the 2 of them can either save their family or destroy it.
I wish them all the best and hope that they can save their marriage and come out of this stronger. I really like them both. I think they should realize what they had and what they will have in the future if they let the media control this situation. She should believe him if he says he never did it, and he should believe her if she says she never did it. Then if one proves the other wrong, they can go from there. I wish them the best!
To answer the question simply, yes, they should. Their marriage and the well-being of their children is far more important. They should seek the advice of Kenny and Bobbi McCaughey who had septuplets in 1997. They have done very well supporting and raising 8 children; giving them a stable environment with which to grow up happy. I certainly understand that they need an income to provide for a large family, but there are other ways of making money and at this point with a marriage in jeopardy and children as risk, it is time for them to seek alternatives.
being a child from a divorced I think it's horrible that these children have to go through this with the nation watching. It's hard enough when there are no cameras present. For the sake of the family I think TLC should buck up and cancel the show.
No one bothered to say anything about the past how many years those kids have been on TV? Now all of the sudden just because there's supposedly drama, they are accused of abusing their kids?
This IS a reality show, period. It's enterntainment, it's for ratings!
That means more $$$ for TLC. Does everyone really believe every scene is just as it really happens. It has to be edited to make it look interesting – otherwise, no one would watch! Everyone needs to stop believing everything they read – we have no idea what's really going on.
Unfortunately this has become a mutually disfunctional/parasitic relationship between TLC and the parents. You have to know that TLC is loving the publicity that this is bringing the show which means big $$$ for them. If they had morals they would recommend to Jon and Kate to end or pause the show for now for the sake of their marriage and family. Jon and Kate are now 'stuck' because rather than participating in a show 'about' their lives,the show has BECOME their lives and their sole source of income. It is now the only 'work' that they do.
Kate is way off base with her broken-record mantra that she is 'there for' her kids... it's clear her obsession with the show and the kids has meant she has not focused on her marriage as priority. What about being there for her husband? She needs to realize the BEST thing she can do for her kids is have a strong marriage with her husband, and yes this means putting her marriage first... even if it means ending the show. She likely will not do that and the marriage will end because she has her priorties out of whack.
They would have found a way to make ends meet without the show so why is she acting like they would all shrivel up and die without it?
She is sacrificing her marriage and family on the altar of the almighty dollar and doesnt even realize it...very sad.
I feel they should quit the show. If this was my family dealing with the press and the foundation of my family was at risk-my marriage, that would be that. No money, no fame, nothing is worth it. Marriage is not an easy thing. Add in, for them, 8 children. If they have faith, then they know they must work on their marriage. It is sacred. Maybe come back and update us in about 5-10 years and show us that you made it work and everyone is doing well.
I have always watched this show, but now I can't. It is so sad. When they showed the film of Jon and Kate on their honeymoon, they both seemed so happy and excited. Now they are so sad. They have lost what is important in their lives. Each other, before the kids. They should feel blessed that all their 6 came out healthy with no major problems to deal with. That is very unusual. Those kids will grow up and have their own lives. They need to focus on each other more.
I think it's about time they get their act together and save the marriage! I have way too much time invested in this show for them to screw it up now!
For a long time, one of the twins has made it apparent she is just not interested in the cameras, tv, or being part of what appears at times to be charade – a big always happy family. I have watched this show and enjoyed watching the children develop as individuals. However, as they are developing as individuals they should not be pushed into helping mommy and daddy make money by doing something they don't want to do. C'mon folks, let the kids be kids and they can't be kids in front of a camera once they realize what the camera is all about. One of those twins has gotten there already.
John has to take the lead and step back, he wants to be John, not a title of a tv show and I don't blame him. Not only has he lost his indivduality the kids are loosing theirs before they even get it – all for the sake of Kate's material needs and image upholding. She appears nasty, and self centered. Yes we all like a clean fridge, but really, washing a single shelf for over an hour is obsessive.
Kate is obsessive, nasty and controlling. I don't blame John for feeling frustrated. He's in a family, in a marriage, not in some draconian military.
It is possible to rationalize any decision as being "for the children", but it appears Kate has become infatuated with the media "job" she's created for herself to the detriment of her family. Sub-title next season "The woman who lost everything that really mattered". The show is over, but the participants just don't know it yet.
I'm sure Jon and Kate split long ago... but have decided to appear as if they're together for the sake of the $75,000 per episode price tag, NOT the children. The season premiere made it clear that Jon had not been in the home for quite some time.
If they lose the show, they lose their livelihood. Just look at Kate season 1 and compare her to now. She's got manicured nails, a permanent tan, hair dye, etc. She loves her glamorous lifestyle, and so does Jon and his brand new sports car. They're staying together so they don't have to go back to being regular hard-working folks... and in the mean time they're damaging their children.
One day their kids will watch these shows and see that they stayed together for money, and not for the kids.
Jon and the children will survive. It's Kate who needs help and seriously needs to look at the person she has become. She's alienated her friends, her extended family and now her husband. Being a shrew isn't becoming to anyone!
They should quit and work on saving their marriage and building a real family life for their children. John Gosselin is totally defeated. He clearly doesn't want this show and all the reprecussions for his life. Kate is controlling and completely out of touch with reality. She has repeatedly treated her husband like a doormat in front of America and it is sad that she thinks her behavior is okay. I feel bad for the kids. The worst thing is that this woman sits and talks all these Christian family values yet fails to live them. She has alienated her own family as well as Johns by her demands and superficial expectations. Get a life and get off our TV! Your kids deserve better than this well oiled money machine that has been crafted by this dysfunctionally led family.
YES...YES...YES – GET RID OF THE SHOW
I think Jon ought to dump "crabby Kate" and hook up with Mary-Kate Olsen. Then they could relaunch the show as "Jon and Mary-Kate plus 8, minus Kate".
I didn't realise how crabby Kate actually was until the solar-panel episode with Steve Thomas. Steve is like the nicest guy on television and Kate treated him like crap. He was giving her all kinds of free labor and green stuff for their home and all she could do was complain and crab. Every guy watching this show sympathizes with Jon.
"Jon and Kate Plus Eight" is a reality show and it really shows common issues in thousands of Americans lives and relationships. Their relationship evolves and they experience many ups and downs which is not unheard of. Jon is the only one that seems unhappy. The kids appear happy, so it's really no one's place to criticize Kate for her character or to judge Jon without certainty.
I think the show, which use to be about the kids and family, has turned into a pathetic exploitation of those children. The show is now the "Jon vs. Kate Show" and the chilrdren are victims of their greed. I use to love the show. I refuse to watch it now. Every marriage goes through struggles, but they should be private if the children really matter at all. Very sad.
I have always disliked this show. The Gosselins have been using their kids as cash cows long enough. I understand they need to make a living, but book deals, plastic surgery, freebees, bodyguards. Come on! What are they actually famous for? Not for having a talent! Doing IVF and having a large number of children at once is not the way to become famous and we should not advocate it. I hope people stop watching this show, but they probably won't because Americans love reality show train wrecks.
I think anybody who watches this should quit. That would send the right message.
By the way, this "marital trouble" seems more like a marketing ploy than anything else.
They need to GET OUT. NOW. They aren't the first people to have a large family. Nursing and computer work are viable professions and fairly recession proof. They won't be able to afford a mulit million dollar house on acreage with those salaries. So what? Hopefully from a financial standpoint they saved something for the day the gravy train ended. Maybe for them, with the sad priorities they have acquired during the past five years, there is no going back, but from a financial standpoint it is not impossible.
I grew up in the sixties, when really big families were common. Eight, ten, twelve kids! And these folks didn't live in five or six or seven bedroom mansions. But most of them had parents who stayed married and parented together. Once the Gosselins got past babyhood, they just amount to another big family. The charm of them was originally how sweet and "normal" they were. Now they hold a similar fascination to OctoMom. Time to take this circus behind closed doors.
#1. Kate is a control freak and has little if any respect for Jon
#2. Jon is a slacker, and suddenly doesn't like all the attention he is getting by the press.
In the midst of this drama are 8 children who are in effect growing up along with Mom and Dad. Is this child abuse? NO. It is rough right now for the entire family. And they are discovering who there real friends and family are, which of course has got to hurt allot also.
Choices were made by Jon and Kate. First choice was to have 6 children after already having twins. And hind sight being 20-20 maybe it wasn't the best choice but they were young and Kate (more than Jon) took it very seriously.
Along came TV, its money, and allot of fringe benefits, i.e. vacations, tummy tucks, hair transplants, etc., etc. And it has been benefical, for all of them. Imagine to what it would be like with out any of that for Kate and Jon. Kate slowly went of the deep end, and some how or another decided she is Uber Mom and since she has 8 children she can brow beat, ridicule, and minimize her husband? Yes. has Jon done anything about this? No he is in effect a bystander.
Jon now resentful and looking to escape, feeling he missed the good times? It's written all over his face and in his body language. Kate has assumed the matry roll and is just stunned this has happened. Which is actually funny.
The marriage is over they have both stated repetadely evrything they do is for the good of the children, which is really code for I can't stand him/her but I love the kids. This is a train wreck and we all get to watch, that my friends is the beauty of reality TV.
I thik the most important thing forn any real family i sthe well being of their kids. I used to see the show but i have noticed that now is all about money.At the beginning they were real normal family dad goes to work and mom stays home with kids and sometimes work they were as sweet family, now it i all Hollywood style and the kids are paying the consecuences of the ambition of fame and fortune of their parents. Kate seems to me very feak, and they said we do everything for our kids. I do not think they will give up all the fame and fortune. I feel so sad for those poor kids. Of course thay are exploit them.Where is the family of both of them? . I think they are not sincere people.
Kate and John obviously love their children. They are very aware of them as individuals and take care of their individual needs. After all, it takes a great deal of money to raise 8 children. Perhaps, John should have continued to work and Kate to cut back from her business trips. Also, now that the children are getting older, maybe it's time to remove the cameras from the bedrooms. Cutting the no. of shows to 30 a year might be advisable.
All the stories that circle around do nothing but put a bad light on both parents and throw their children in the middle. We as a society condone this behavior by making the criticism of the faimily's actions our business. We have to understand that every action has a motive behind it, and to only see a piece of the puzzle limits our knowledge, but increases our judgment of this family. Regardless of who is in the spotlight on this show, this is real life. If this family feels their children can be protected and still provide a window to their lives, it will help others know they are not alone. If the children are exploited and limits are not put on their exposure to the media outside of their show, then the time has come to do what is best for all involved and protect these young lives. We all must ask ourselves when we turn on the TV or read a magazine, or start to criticize the actions of one adult, "what if my life was in the public eye?" "Have I always done what was best for my family?" "Have I always treated my loved one in the most respectful manner?" We all play a part in the support or downfall of this family... don't feed the fire by purchasing stories that will fee into this frenzy.
Obviously, they are going to have to stop filming their kids' lives at some point. Can you imagine how 8 teenagers would react to have their every moment recorded for all time? Apparently the cameras are not currently allowed near their bedrooms, so I would guess that if they don't stop soon that at some point the kids would figure out to just stay in their rooms all the time just to give them the space they need to mature normally.
I have never watched this show and do not plan to. However, it has become impossible to avoid knoweldge of the heartbreaking struggles that they are going through. It seems that they took on the show in order to earn the money to support their large brood. Additionally, it gave them the ability to have both parents home parenting full time. This does not seem like an irresponsible decision to me. They are likely already under contract for the current season of the show (and maybe subsequent seasons). Even if they are not, if they stop doing the show, how will they support their family? They will need to line up an alternative financial plan before they could consider walking away from the show.
If they want their marriage to work and remain as a family then....
QUIT THE SHOW PLEASE
.......and relocate quietly with any remnants of integrity left.
This show is their cash cow; without it there is no income for this family. The book interest will die, the tabloids will go away and find other fodder, the sponsors will find someone else to cater to, and we will all move on. However, the financial ramifications for the Gosselins are enormous with no "Jon and Kate Plus 8". For the past few years, neither Jon nor Kate has worked apart from TLC. Kate is and always was in it for the fame and money, and Jon is so whipped, he just goes along with whatever Kate says. Their situation right now has evolved because of her treatment of him as her slave, i.e., do what I say, when I say, and how I say to do it, and he has finally grown some you-know-whats and said, "Enough already!" It's too bad for these 8 children – unfortunately, nobody gets to choose their parents.
Let's start with:
1st issue – IF YOU CANNOT AFFORD 8 CHILDREN- DON'T HAVE THEM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Doing so, means you are putting your family and children at risk. It is not the TV viewing audiences responsibility or desire to support your family.
2nd issue – IF YOU EXPERIENCE FAMILY ISSUES (which you will because you've put yourself and your family squarely in the public's lust for entertainment) DON'T BE SUPRISED. Decide if you need a family or FAME more.
3rd issue – PEOPLE PLEASE STOP WATCHING THESE TYPES OF SHOWS (why do we think think the OCOTMOM did what she did?? I guarantee you there are others contemplating this same insanity because we've "SHOWN THEM THE MONEY")
Jon said that he "didn't choose this", meaning being a stay-at-home Dad. Really? Nobody is forcing him to do this! TLC isn't holding a gun to his head. No doubt he and Kate saw dollar signs and made the CHOICE to take the dough, erroneously thinking that it was best for their children. Well, it wasn't. Quitting the show is the right thing to do for the kids, even if it means giving up that million plus dollar house. Money isn't everything, family is.
I believe when the show first started to air, it simply was a documentation for people to see how a family deals with multiples. Now I think its turned into a very vain mother utilizing her children for monetary reasons and free samples. They go from a small regular home to this million dollar mansion, her tummy tucks and pedicures, Jon's hair implants, and her kids running around in Gymboree clothing isn't realistic. This once reality TV show, has turned into a lie – because the average everyday person wouldn't have been able to do what they have done, and its all been done to gain viewers.
I think anytime you become false and vain, somehow your going to be humbled, and this is what is occuring. Their marriage is facing real difficulty and I think its impart to the lifestyle changes, the dictatorship by Kate and the way the TLC channel has made improvements to gain more viewers.
I think its time for reality to sink in and their show to end. It isn't fair to their innocent children to be used in that way. What their kids are facing is very real, very painful and shouldn't be aired for the world to see. I think when they get older, they will really resent that.
Quit this show and work on saving your family! America fell in love with the Gosselins due to their normalcy and humor. Sadly a big part of that American normalcy means marriage trouble. Please don't play out a private matter in the public eye.
Hopefully Jon and Kate have saved enough to support the kids. However it takes a lot of money to raise so many and this show is evidently their only source of income. I would like to see the kids continue– maybe – Jon minus Kate plus 8. She is getting unbearable to watch.
This reminds me of a comment that Joel McHale made about soon seeing "Jon Minus Nine".
I think Jon and Kate are in a tough position. I don't think it is a matter of money at this point as opposed to the fact that they signed a legal contract and that is not easy to get out of. Especially since with all the media coverage, ratings are up for TLC and because of that, TLC probably will not let them out of the contract no matter what the cost is to these children. Greed is a strong thing.
TLC needs to get another show (gee, I don't know, something educational for a change) and get this family OFF the air right now before any more damage is done. If they want to take the high road, they can seek counseling for the family before this gets worse.
You wanted reality? You got reality! Now you don't want reality because it's painful to watch? I think these kids are better off with America watching. It maintains a certain amout of civility between the parents. The family dynamic won't change because the show is cancelled. It would probably get worse. The show also makes it clear that although Jon and Kate's relationship has changed – they both, above all, clearly love their kids. Keep the show going. It's a good study of what is so common these days. Or, stick your head in the sand and pretend if you can't see it, it doesn't exist.
END. THE. SHOW!!! I used to watch it when it first started running, but now I avoid it if only as my own little form of protest. The well-being of those children needs to come first, and clearly this is not in their best interest. If the parents are too selfish and money/power hungry to call it quits, then TLC needs to step up and sacrifice some ratings in order to do what's right. I never realized that the network was so willing to exploit people.
I have watched the show for years, but I think it is time to stop. Maybe they could do one or two specials a year.
Jon and Kate have indicated through the years that they are Christians. If this is true, Kate should recognize Jon as the leader of the home, and if he says it is time to end the show, she should follow his leadership. (Yes, I am a woman, and no, I am not brow-beaten or any of those silly things.)
Kate is obviously spending too much time "working" if her children are calling her by the babysitter's name. That should be indication enough that it is time to reconsider priorities.
The Lord has provided for these children until now, and He will provide if they stop filming the show.
No one ever asked the kids if they wanted to be on t.v.
Kate, Why do you choose to show your nasty side for the whole world to see? Have you no shame? You lack a conscience on how you treat your husband, family and friends.
Jon, Stand up for yourself and your kids. Stop the show–protect your kids.
Get rid of this program, to help all that is involved to prosper. It remarkable to me what we find entertaining these days. Think about it!!!!
My family loves the show. Now that the children are older, you have enough money to raise them. Your children need to grow up in a normal family inviroment, with or without two parents. I know you can work things out if you weren't on camera 24/7. God bless you and your little angels.
I've never seen the show & wouldn't know anythng about the family if it weren't for the tabloid mediastorm. I feel really bad for them because from what I understand my friends sho have children actually watched the show for info on time managment, family dynamics, how to stretch a dollar, etc. and now its devolved into this sad trainwreck....I hope they do withdraw from the show, but knowing the reputation of the entertainment world–it may not be easy for the family to pack up and go
I can't believe I am actually posting in on this, but I found the season opener to be very difficult to watch. TLC has the responsibility to release the family from their contract, pay out their contract, and set up serious family counseling. Jon and Kate are ultimately responsible for their behavior and, quite possibly, the demise of their marriage. But, TLC is doing this FAMILY a serious disservice by playing out their hardships on air.
Is this all about money? After watching Jon and Kate on last Monday's show – I have to "yes." Everybody saw this coming last season with Jon and Kate endorsing products and being paid to go to deluxe resorts. That was the beginning of the end for me. Now this terrible scandal is putting their children in an area they definitely don't belong.
Jon and Kate need to step back and realize the harm they are inflicting to themselves and the kids. Families may not be perfect and maybe they think they're showing what happens in "real" life, but this is far from real life! Jon got busted hanging out with a young GIRL. He got the attention he craved and look at him now. His wife is alone and their children are begging him to stay with them. And, this is all being played out ON AIR!!! What is TLC thinking? Oh wait, money talks!!!!
I hope the parents wake up and realize the true meaning of parenting. I hope TLC wakes up and sets the family up with what (I believe) they truly want – financial security. TLC has had a hand in this disaster.
I hope I'm wrong in my assessment of this show and TLC. I honestly hope this is all a ploy to get more viewers and the kids are being told that their playing "pretend". Wouldn't that be interesting TV?
this show like many on TV would like to show us how great it is to have eight kids and have a happy ending at the end of each show, but that is not real. life is about ups and downs and how we deal with them. they signed up for a real life show so SHOW IT.
omg....enough about this family already. NO ONE CARES!!! Next "news" story please.
I'm a mother of multiples and I can tell you it's not picnic. Sure you love and do anything for your children but you can't deny the added stress of everything. From finances to "when does dad get to go to the bathroom". I'm not kidding. I think there are many who are too quick to judge this family's decisions.
If they want to save their marriage, they need shut the cameras off and make some serious real time together to hash things out. This show only partially shows the difficulties and joys of raising multiples.
I agree with Amber – who are we to criticize anyone? We are the ones who sit weekly and watch the show. If you don't like it – turn it off and watch something else. Everyone changes – nothing stays the same. They are human and will make mistakes. The media has torn down many – saying it is their right – what about the rights of the individuals they destroy.
It's up to Jon and Kate whether or not they need to quit the show – or whether they CAN. From personal experience, I didn't consider quitting my job when my first marriage went into a tailspin – I had a mortgage and bills to pay. So do the Gosselins. The show isn't just for fun for this family anymore – it's their main source of income. How are they going to provide for their 8 kids without income – especially in this economy???
I think everyone should just leave these people the hell alone. Stop watching the show, stop stalking out their house, stop following them everywhere and let them be. Everyone has a right to privacy and celebs are no exception. I live close to Jon and Kate and was in an gas station 2 days ago and Jon was in there, the poor guy couldn't even buy gas without some woman asking for his autograph. People like you are pathetic.
Jon and Kate have been great parents with all of the children they have and now this scandal, which probably is making thier life even more difficult. People are cruel, butting thier noses in where they don't belong, giving thier stories just because they are jealous. If I could tell Jon and Kate something it would be to enjoy thier life and to tell everyone to butt out. God bless you (Jon and Kate) you have given your kids the best life any parents could ever imagine. I hope you continue to air your shows they have made an impact on so many lifes, including mine. Please take care of your family and let the rest of this nonsense go. Thank-you so much, sincerly, Chestine Pillow P.S. I will continue to watch your shows.
I have no sympathy whatsoever for Jon & Kate.
They are the epitome of irresponsibility. While one might argue that it is okay for a childless couple who are having trouble conceiving to go through infertility treatments, you simply cannot say the same for this couple. Having already gone through infertility treatments in the conception of their twins, these two CHOSE to do it again, only this time having 6 at once. It is a well known fact that children of a multiple childbirth do not live as long as single birth children and even with the best medical care stand a good chance of being born with health issues if they survive at all.
Jon & Kate already had their children yet chose to risk her health as well as the health of all those babies and for what? They already had two children.
I don't feel sorry for these two, just their children for the exploitation they have brought upon the family.
You can choose not to watch this program if you think it is exploiting the children. If enough people quit watching , the program would end, but alas our Society loves to watch when there is discord in a marriage of a high profile couple.
WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. With so many PARENTS OUT OF WORK and unable to provide even the basic necessities for their families, all THIS couple does is WHINE, WHINE, WHINE. Enough already.
You need time to work on a hurting relationship. The family needs time to work on their issues. Yes, they should stop filming their dirty laundry. Yes, they should give their children as much of a normal life as possible. Yes, J/K should be spending time with a good marriage counselor. Yes, they should both look in the mirror and ask themselves what is important in their lives. Give us 1 special a year from now to see where they're all at. If J/K needed the $$, they should've been investing what they've earned from the show and saving for their kids' future. Now that the kiddos will all be in school, if they still need the bucks, mom and dad can get real jobs like the rest of us.
Yes I think they need to quit the show. When they say we are here for our kids I'm thinking no you aren't. If you were you would take care of your problems and quit exploiting your kids. I feel really bad for the kids right now.
I see this show and though their parents' break-up would hurt them, I don't think their lives are being "ruined". These kids are obviously very happy in spite of what is brewing around them. Kids are suffering in the world, but please, not in the Gosselin house.
Jon and Kate plus eight,
Getting their freak on it seems.
Poor abundant kids.
Hey, everybody, just stop watching the show and it will all be over.
Jon and Kate have a couple of questions to answer: Do they want their marriage to have a chance, or not? Do they want their kids to have a healthy childhood, or not?
If they want to make the marriage work, pull the plug on the show, period.
If they want the kids to be healthy, pull the plug on the show, period.
If they really are addicted to the show and all its perks, then they should attempt to pitch the "Jon & Kate Show" to spare the kids any further drama, and see how far that gets them. They (OK Kate, actually) might end up surprised at how little interest there is in them without the brood.
Jon, it seems, would be completely happy walking away from the show tomorrow. Unfortunately they are a package deal and have to work together on this. It will be interesting to see how far they let things deteriorate before they step up and make the call.
As much as I love the show...I feel that in order for the marriage to repair it self and survive the show should go off. However, giving up 75,000.00 an episode is easier said than done. Jon needs to grow up!
I think if the media would leave them alone for a few months, they just might have time to focus on each other and family. Yes, we know they put themselves in the spotlight, but everyone makes mistakes. Let them recover from this storm with a little peace...and QUIET and without everyone judging them. For everyone who blogs about how terrible Jon and Kate are, have you guys ever made a mistake in life and love and family, YES of course you have, have you ever brought things upon yourself, of course you have. These two are humans making human mistakes, PLEASE everyone lighten up on them!
This whole story is sad. They probably wouldn't be having these problems if they didn't have all the money and publicity. The show has been interesting to watch the first couple of years but not now. I went thru my own divorce. That was painful enough. I wish them well but feel the show should end.
Good luck with Kate. She has her own agenda irregardless of Jon and the kids.
I find it annoying that Kate publically berates Jon for his "infidelity" and how he has to atone for his sin. Quite quickly, he's guilty in her mind.
Yet, when the tables are turned and Kate gets accused of an affair, she states she's outrigh innocent and thinks the media blows it out of proportion.
Where was Kate's consideration for Jon's part? Might not it be that the media ran away with Jon's story as well??
I think both of you should quit the show because of Jon and Kate are more fussy between them of their children. I think you and Kate should talk to there marriage and what of your plan not to face your children. I know your children who love you.
ps I love to watch the show.
When will America ever get enough of reality TV? I've been an avid fan of watching Jon & Kate plus 8. The kids are adorable; however, having cameras in your face a majority of the time for all to see has reached its end. It's time for mom & dad to pull the plug. As the kids get older, teenagers and such, it will only get worse. It's time that they start rearing their children without the cameras. It will not only save their marriage, but it will save their relationship with their kids as well.
When you see Kate Gosselin from years ago, compared to now, it is obvious that she has turned into this shrill, bitter, hardened, media hungry woman. What's Jon's problem, it is clear that he hates being, and hates being perceived as a wussy. His stepping out and away is a form of him taking back some control. This was evident when, during the first show, he said that he didn't choose to be the stay at home dad, this role was "chosen for him," ostensibly by Kate. Not to put all the blame on Kate, but had he been a tougher guy, Kate wouldn't have had to be this mean, brittle-haired woman.
Yes ! they need to live a normal life and not to have T L C to bankrol their life style or ego's., I think the show did more harm than good plus we don't know could it be a set up to boost ratings? and you have The Roloff's, show so they are small and they made off pretty good new big house, pool, ect , life deals us all alot of thing but not all of us reep the funds. please give us a break ! watch more cartoons!
Like others have said, I think the show started with decent intentions. Both parents were working regular jobs, and just wanted to document the kids lives. I believe the only had 8 episodes in a season. That all seems pretty tame. Now neither of the parents has a regular job outside of something to do with the show, and they film 40 or more episodes a season. That is a LOT of time to have to be in front of a camera. I have never been totally in love with the show because I just couldn't stand Jon and Kate's bickering and how disrespectful she was to him. It bothered me particularly because she touts herself as a christian and even speaks at churches, when the Bible is very clear that spouses should treat each other with respect and each should be self-sacrificing. No, no one is perfect, but it doesn't appear to be anything she is even working on.
Anyway, she is always saying "i'm doing this for the kids." Well, the best thing parents can give their children is a happy marriage. How can she be aware that Jon is so miserable that he isn't even living at home anymore and yet continue to choose the cameras just because she likes to be in front of the camera? Yes, they need to either stop filming entirely, or cut the number of episodes in half at least. I'd take it a step further and say that Kate needs to stop traveling so much and spend more time at home with her family. Sure, she's got a book out to promote, but she needs to balance her time a little better.
The people coming to the defense of this show are hilarious. You know what would end all of the public scrutiny and attention? If they stopped doing their show. People are never going to "just leave them alone" or "stop juding them" if they voluntarily elect to remain on TV for the $$$. And please stop with the, they're doing it for the kids' futures. I know lots of people with very large familes and they manage to get by without the backing of a cable network AND their marriges are all still in tact.
What's more disturbing is the the gut feeling I get that this is exactly what Kate Gosselin wants. When everything finally crumbles and the inevitable divorce happens, Kate then gets to be the martyr. The "struggling" mommy getting by with her 8 little paychecks. It's a whole new TV show and set of book deals to sell to the mega church crowd.
But right now, they're America's favorite train wreck, so it'll never stop until the Gosselin's have the common sense to put a stop to it and disappear.
I think all the people who are "appalled" at these parents who are expoiting there children, should use the whole glass houses analogy. Most people would not be able to fathom the emotional stress and financial stress that would come with raising 8 children so close in age. These are probably the same people who buy all of the tabloids with Jon and Kate on the cover. Come on people, why not just say a prayer for a family obviously in need and move on with your lives. I say Jon and Kate do whatever you feel is right. At the end of the day, you are the ones who have to deal with the consequences. Signed A fan who hopes for the best for you entire family.
GET OFF THE AIR!!!
Kate is a selfish FREAK anymore. She is sooo controlling. Jon has never looked comfortable in front of the cameras. The entire situation is disgusting. Get off the air and raise your kids together!! PERIOD!!!
In my opinion Kate is too far gone to save her marriage. She loves the attention way too much to step out now. The money...The Clothes...The Surgery.... She will never give it all up!!!!
One day their children will rise up as one and beat them for selling their childhoods, some will withdraw from public life entirely and some others will be public figures (albeit famous for nothing) forever.
This sadly proves nothing good comes from 24/7 voyeurism.
People love to watch the train wreck don't they? The 15 minutes are truly OVER!!!!!!!!!
I think it's criminal what's going on now. I feel sick at what's happening to the kids. It's become a circus and the kids are in the middle ring with mom and pop battling in the end rings in a hollywood like, publicity gathering battle.
I can appreciate the financial difficulties that they must have had trying to raise 6 newborns and the benefits of the show and the financial offerings it provides for the family and kids. But enough is enough. It's brutally obvious that the show and media storm surrounding it is just feeding the current drama(s) If they (particularly KATE) could be objective about the whole thing, they'd realize the show has to end, to allow for any sort of salvaging of the a normal family like for the adorable kids, and for any possibility of salvaging their marriage.
Kate mentioned they (Kate and Jon) "Swiftly changed into two different people" From what is apparent watching the show, Kate is the one who swiftly changed into a new person. She appears to have become a media and publicity junkie... every talk show going, Larry King, etc. etc. etc. I'm sure she loves her children, but her new "career" is certainly rising in priority... at the expense of her kids... and her marriage...
Save what can be salvaged of a normal childhood for those adorable kids... put the show aside... work on your family !!!
I used to watch regularly... will be tuning off now...
Where do i start!? Do any of these lovely, judgemental, clueless and otherwise knowing it all people have children? How about 8 children?
I am married have 3 boys, and she spends more individualized time with each of her children than i can not because i work but because its very hard to juggle time between sibs and run a household. She has 8! I personally think she is awesome! She is very organized and very very thorough. Her children are very well taken care of, something that even people with unlimited resources dont always do. Her children eat organic, she cooks from scratch (are u kidding me for 8) and always has something planned for her children even ifs its just a scavenger hunt with dollar toys at the end. The point is, everything she does is heart felt and thought out.
Any of you or anyone else in the world care to try to raise 8 kids half as good as they do, i would really like to see you try. There should be a show about all of the people who like to throw out stupid comments about something they dont know anything about. Oh wait there is........
its called the media. I am so sick of everything being "mediaized" lets take something a bit hard or challenging and turn it into something EVIL AND DAMAGING. Please give me a break!!!
IF WE WERE TO SPEND A QUARTER OF THE TIME REPORTING NEWS AND INFORMATION ABOUT MISSING CHILDREN AS THEY DO ABOUT STUPID OCTOMOM AND WHO SHE LOOKS LIKE AND NOW THIS POOR FAMILY, OUR KIDS WOULD BE FOUND!!!
As for Jon, i think its relatively simple, hes mad and feeling overworked,unappreciated, and just plain feeling sad for himself because he quit his career while Kate does her writing and book tours (occasionally) and hes home with the kiddies, with HELP.
Get over it, now u feel like everyother women and mother on the entire planet!!!!! There is a reason why men cant give birth to children and traditioally arent the ones who take care of them, this is why. What a bunch of winers.
At least she will have the financial resources to leave his ass if it comes to that. The rest of us cant say that. How many women out there who have no education (Kate does i realize she was a nurse) to support their family and have been out of the workforce a long time and feel trapped. Who suffers most of all for that is the children.
Thank you and good day!!!
Elissa Stack Livonia MI
To answer the question, should Jon and Kate quit the show, the simple answer is absolutely YES!!!!!
Do not think they are helpless and wouldn't be able to support their kids if they didn't do the show. If they stopped today, they'd do quite well on Kate's book sales, reruns and DVD sales and here's a notion, Jon could go back to work.
Yes, many families DO go through divorce, however Divorce and difficult times are hard enough on their own, without the media displaying this difficult time for everyone's entertainment kicks.
It has been estimated that this family has eartned $10 MILLION so far through the TLC paymenys, book sales and fees. How much more do they need to support the family? More is better, but the more they try to grab, the more the family is breaking down. If it really about the family (which I doubt) they will give it up and work on the family.
Jon and Kate- pack it in people. Kate was such a sweet person who was trying to show the world about taking care of sextuplets and twins to boot. She was trying to teach how to be organized and so on. Now that TLC has created their monster, she's become a self centered, un-caring wife. She surely is NOT the person we first saw 5 years ago, she has definitely gone hollywood and has forgotten herself and her friends. Mady needs to be taken aside and given a good talking too and a whop on the ass!! She's the brattiest and snotiest one in the bunch and very cruel and bullying to her younger siblings.......look out Jon and Kate she's gonna be a REAL handful when she turns 13 and that's just going to be a taste of how she's going to turn out (hmmm just like HER mom??!!). Having "dad" in the picture once in while isn't going to help anything, GET counseling, STOP the show, SELL the multimillion dollar house you DON't need and go back to being the family you started out being. You DO need to look back at WHY you fell in love and wanted kids. Raise your family like every struggling large family is, MONEY has changed you both and Jon, you need a BACKBONE and put your foot down man!! She's not your BOSS, she's your WIFE and should be reminded as such. I'd love to see someone put her in her place for a change.
I think Jon and Kate should work on their marriage in private. But still keep the show, it's all about reality now, I don't think it will hurt the kids. Everyone talks cameras or no cameras. It's REAL. Everyone is living in drama now adays, you just ain't getting paid for it like them . Stop hating and judging. You still going to watch the show!
I think that the media should leave them alone! lets all be real if the show went away and John and Kate worked out their issues how do you expect for him to provide for his family on an I.T analyst salary? comon people! Leave Kate alone she is doing the best thing, not even if john was making a doctors salary he could support this family! I firmly believe that A.J hammer and all the other media outlets just want to see a downfall of the show... If this is the case then all family shows which showcase children should go away... The Dougers, Little People Big world, 18 and counting, etc etc... let be real! honestly this show has given these kids the best opportunities anyone could ever ask for, just imagine if kate had to deal with the 8 kids all by herself and John was away at work for 16hrs a day... Yes!! 16hrs the guy would need at least 2 full time jobs to keep food on the table for 10 people! LEAVE THEM ALONE! stop hating on them! Especially You A.J Hammer.....
Lynn i meant..
Anyone here ever heard of the Dionne Quintuplets? Born in 1934 in northern Ontario (Canada), they were put on display and completely taken advantage of by the government, their community, and to some extent, their parents – they were actually taken out of the parents' custody, parents had visiting rights.
J&K+8 is a mordern day Dionne Quints story. Sure, J&K needed help, which presumably they would have gotten from a comination of family, private sector , community and local goverment support. The fact that this went beyond producing a one or two episode documentary, potentially even with an annual follow-up – that might have been appropropriate – to now a 5 season television show that seems to only be getting larger in terms of episodes/season is insane! Now we have the focus shifting to a dysfunctional relationship between the parents and we're seeing the impact on the kids.
These kids have been exploited. They need privacy and care in the form of child and protective services counselling. J&K have milked this thing for too much. I just hope for the kids' sakes that they grow up to be somewhat normal.
Oh, go away, please. Get your job back, Jon, take care of the kids (teach them that there is life without cameras) and for heavens' sake spare us all from any more of KATE!
I think they should leave the show and focus of their family.
I heard Paul Peterson's comments on all of this, and he is exactly right!
Face it people, each and every one of you would have made the same decision. Jon and Kate require massive amounts of assistance and hired help to get through each and every day. They are both aware that the fame has its pitfalls, but without the show they'd be in massive amounts of debt, in a house too small to fit their expanding family, with children who were not able to have the simple life experiences that you all take for granted.
After the terror and trauma of coming to grips with the reality of having sextuplets in your mid twenties, an offer of this magnitude is a light at the end of the tunnel.
In the same situation, you'd do the show out of LOVE, because the reality of doing this all on your own is a risk that you just would not take.
I think that Kate is smarter than anyone is giving her credit for. These two individuals in a terrible economy have set themselves and their children up financially for life. Any major marketing firm in the country should hire her. These kids will be fine. Hopefully they will have their parents brilliance for how to market and make a living. Even if they dump the show right now each will have a number of avenues they can go in to continue the cash flow. Look at that woman that had all those babies purposefully to make $$ we have not had to hear about her thankfully, she created her misery. Kate and Jon took a situation they "found" not developed themselves in and turned it into security for their children...isn't that the "American Dream" being an entrepreneur? Seriously...if you don't like it, don't watch it! Every person that turns on to that show makes those two money. Stop complaining and judging other people...shut off the TV. Actually, I think that this whole country would be better off if we cut out our addiction to TV...and media sensationalism and just pulled the plug!!! Oh my goodness what would we talk about? We would have to communicate with our families and each other about ourselves and our lives...not someone elses on a TV Reality show.....ooooo would we know what to say? Do we know more about John and Kate then we do our siblings? Or cousins? How about the family down the street struggling to keep food on their tables? Do we know how to help them? There is more talk about TV shows and people than there is about ourselves and each other. What about YOUR kids and their day??? Do you know what your teenager had for lunch, or do you know whatever kid on the show had peanut butter?
I think that everyone who is going through a divorce or seperation should take a note from the Gosselins, they have their problems, but put them aside for their kids. This is something other couples should take note of.
I heard they get paid a handsome sum for each episode. I just hope it's enough to pay for all the therapy the 8 kids will need after growing up "on display".
The show needs to stop. I love watching those adorable children, but will no longer watch. J&K need to focus on their children. I'm sure they've already made enough money to comfortably meet the children's needs. J&K need to grow up!!
yes! for the sake of their marriage! take some time and work on that! i love the show but want them to be happy more! i watched the season premier and just cried! i just felt bad for each them and the kids!
Why would CPS need to take the children away, that was a bit harsh. It's not child abuse to have this many children and want to make some money to support them. Yes, i think they should stop filming the show now and get control and wimp counseling but CPS...lame.
I believe that they have done all of this for money. I dont watch the show but have to hear about it all the time. If being in the spotlight is causing this much trouble then stop cashing the checks from TLC and just go away.
I won't watch the show. I had five children in three years, including triplets. It's a daunting task to adequately raise children, meeting their individual needs, preparing for the future, and nurturing their academic, athletic, and spiritual lives. To do so in front of America is not feasible. It might pay the bills, but doesn't allow for a true family bond to form. It reminds me of The Truman Show for the reason that much of children's lives are calculated and contrived for ratings.
This doesn't even begin to address Kate's self-promotion, narcissustic behavior, condescending attitude toward her husband, or need to control . I feel badly for her kids and Jon. It makes me uncomfortable to even watch previews. There is no way that this is a healthy environment to raise a family. If the kids want this lifestyle in a few years, let TLC revisit the idea. Until then, let the show go off the air. Hopefully it will allow a couple to work through whatever challenges they might face in order to focus their energy on the kids. Where is should have been all along.
The reality of it all is that ratings beat out everything else. No matter what your personal opinions are...and I agree with most of you....as long as we continue to watch this train wreck, it will stay on the air.
I don't agree that the kids should be taken. Kate is a shrew. Jon is a coward. But the children love them and are well provided for.
Stop watching, let the show get cancelled and let some healing begin for these children.
If you put your life out there, you will be judged. That is the reality of "Reality" TV.
As their "Real" life is in crisis, the REALITY of the situation is they need to step away from TV and and deal with their issues in private.
No one is on a high horse.
Their marriage seems beyond repair, but they can still save their children. Get rid of the cameras, stop going away on book tours & focusing all energy on money and freebies, work on your family relationships, and maybe- just maybe- the kids won't need years of therapy.
the show was cool but they (Jon and Kate) do not deserve to be paid and treated like celebrities when they are just a couple of blood sucking, money hungry nobodys who use whomever they can to make a buck....and get free vacations to Hawaii and all over the country to boot. It is nice to see that they are real enough and are haveing marriage problems like the rest of us, but they have literally become monsters . And even though the kids are cute they are growing up to be whiney little spoiled brats. Get them off ASAP. What is wrong with this country?? Are we so desperate for entertainment that we have to stoop to such levels of stupidity?? We are all struggling to make a living and these people are cashing in on our ignorance. Enough I say. Please help us ...reality TV is totally out of control.
Kate would never let the show go off the air! She enjoys that big house and all the tanning she does now too much to let that happen! She needs to think about her kids! I think she can be an amazing person but right now she's not thinking straight!
Look in the begining they did it to support the family and I can understand that. However, the lavish home now, Kates tan, and expensive clothes makes me uncomfortable. We all know she has not been a kind person to John that is obvious! I think showing this relationship now may make people in the same situation think. Is is worth my marriage and family to cheat or belittle my spouse. The need to go to counceling but I fear it's too late.
Let's not forget that they each chose a partner with certain personality traits subconsciously or consciously. Jon married an over-achiever so he could be laid back and "go along" and Kate married someone laid-back so she could be the "director." Now that they have had to live with these traits they have to learn to renegotiate their roles if they are unhappy with them. If Jon is unhappy in his early mid-life crisis he can go back to "working a real job" at any time and see if it makes him feel more successful. Kate could also re-examine how she plays the leader role to recognize when maybe her leadership passes the boundry of kindness. Each has to be responsible for their own choices and we aren't guessing at Jon's they are all captured by the press.
As much as I have enjoyed watching the show over the years, I am sickened by it now. Kate, it is time to go. If you really care for your children, as you say you do, walk away and work on the relationship you once had with Jon but have slowly destroyed since the onset of the show.
who really cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Get up from the couch and go fix your own lives!!!!!
I've been watching Jon and Kate Plus 8 for over a year now with my daughter...They are both wonderful parents and absolutely adore their children...It's unfortunate that the media is making it worse by exposing all the dirt....The show is 100% family oriented and I support them wholeheartedly....If and when the parents think this show is hurting the kids, they will end it...I have no doubt.....I have a feeling as the kids age they will automatically tell their parents that they no longer want to be on camera...PERIOD...For now, they are happy and use to be ing around it....I think they are still too young to be affected much....They are not aware of all the drama being played out outside of the home...
They have to make a living somehow...As the kids get older it only gets more expensive with food, clothing, medical bills, activities, education etc.etc... I have ONLY 2 kids and it's expensive...
I completely believe that they are and will do what is in the best interest of the kids....The income they are generating is to give these kids a decent life.....Period...
For those that criticize the parents motives---you have NOT watched and/or followed the show the way I have...Those kids are so very loved and it shows.. Those that criticize-–I'd like to see you raise 8 kids on one income.....
I think exploitation of your children is disgusting. I view their behavior the same way I would view a parent selling their child into prostitution. I refuse to watch this show or any other show that uses the reproduction of children as its selling point.
They've made their money at the cost of their children's privacy. They need to exit the business.
If, for nothing else, but the sake of their children, at this terrible time in their marriage.....quit the show!!! The only thing it looks like, to the viewers, is that you are in it for the money....to stay on this show, with cameras all around at every moment, when the true happiness of 8 children, is at stake. Quit the show and get on with your lives, together or apart....but do what is right!
Jon & Kate should quit the show....this is such a difficult time in their lives and for the sake of their children and themselves should eliminate this fish bowl they are living in. I wish the best for them...just think being in the media these years have not been kind to their marriage and they need to first eliminate that factor out of their lives in order to analyze their lives and decide what they should do. We all have opinions as to what should happen, however, they are the ones that need to make them and live them. Maybe if they never were on TV and became instant celebrities in the first place, none of this would have occurred.
I believe that the show should end. It's more important that this family save what dignity they have left then it is for them to continue putting their children on exhibit. Sure, they need to make money to take care of the children – but to do so at the cost of their children's emotional well-being is counter productive – unless they just want to make the money so they can pay for the therapy, bail, drug treatment programs, or anything else that the children may end up needing as a result of the parent's decision (mostly Kates) to continue the show.
It amazes me that everyone is being so critical to both Jon and Kate. To watch a 30 minute episode and then offer an opinion on people that you "think" you know is amazing. Of course TLC is going to show clips of Kate/Jon during their interactions. I imagine most who view some of these clips have even laughed. I have been married 25 years to an amazing man and I can say I am sure if you searched 30 minutes a week you could find times when I have said something out of character to my man.
Please folks take a step back and allow Jon and Kate to take care of their family as they have been doing. God knows in this economy we all need a little help. As for the paparazzi I appeal to you a little kindness to a family going through an emotional and turbulent time.
They certainly aren't putting their children first by continuing with this nonsense. They need to scrap the show, get real jobs, concentrate on raising those 8 kids, and get their $#*t together. Kate has really let all the notariety go her head and thinks she's some kind of diva. In reality, she is the selfish mother of eight children who prefers fame, money, etc. over what's best for the kids. I will never watch the exploitation of those poor children.
I do think the kids are being exploited. I think if you invite cameras into your home you ask for what you get.....nothing will stay private! In my opinion Jon and Kate are in it for the money. i heard the other night on one of the news shows that Kate grew up in a trailor park so this must be great for her. I heard they are worth over 10 million not sure if that is true or not but they have to making good money and they always are getting thinsg for freel...free toys,trips whatever...there are plenty of people who have kids and can't afforrd things for there families and I don't see them getting a tv show.
Yes. They need to stop doing the show, at least for now, and concentrate on their family. Stay off tv and let the media's attention(and ours) go somewhere else so they can start figuring out what happens next without it being dissected every day on the View and in the tabloids...
Contact TLC http://extweb.discovery.com/viewerrelations
Tell them what you think. I did.
People: stop watching these shows!! If we hit the advertisers where it hurts maybe these reality shows will go away. Why are we sitting on our couches watching the Gosselins, the Kardashians, Denise Richards, and on and on, live their lives and getting rich off of us? Go out and volunteer! Read to your kids and stop watching other people's kids grow up. Make your own life interesting so other people son't seem so fascinating. Just stop watching!!!
Television has turned from entertainment to a caustic, immoral, virtual National Enquirer. Enough. Jon and Kate aren't entertaining unless you like watching people in pain.
I watched the show a few times and really found it contained a lot of issues with Kate. First off, she is very controlling and degrades her husband on camera and in front of the kids all of the time. This is classless, maybe the show should be called Jon plus 8 while Kate get's help. I am also not agreeing with what Jon did, granted we all have friends that are of the opposite sex, however very few would state that they hung out at a bar with their opposite sex friends without a spouse present. I think for the kids sake yes quit the show before more damage is done. Jon and Kate get help for I think they been like this even before the show. if you have seen some of the rare video of them.
The producers do not care, it is all about the amount of viewers it gets which equal dollars for them.
We as a television viewing public are mostly to blame for what has happened to this family. If we quit watching, they will HAVE to readjust their way of living. Yes, get rid of the hollywood lifestyle, let the kids have a normal life, etc. If mom and dad want to continue with a show of some sort, book deals, so be it-but get the kids out of this life NOW. I can attest that this is probably more a normal family with a large amount of kids than people want to know, but to have all your dirty laundry aired in public and for these kids to have to endure the nightmare that school must be is sickening. STOP WATCHING NOW.
It is past time for the legal community of their state to step in and monitor the hours these kids are working and for someone to be sure (other than the parents) that therir financial intersts are being handled properly. And for heavens' sake, relatives step into this family whether you are welcome or not for the kids' sake.
Whether you like this show or not you have to agree that it has become a travesty of the American viewing public to sit and watch this train wreck happen and do nothing about it. The network should and must cancel it immediately-no thought to contracts, etc. Pay them the remainder of the contract but cancel the show now.
As a mother of a large family I would never consider giving up my children's privacy and safety for any amount of money. It is not worth it. What they choose to do as adults is exactly that their own choice, but when you are dealing with minors–please use common sense.
And one person mentioned other minors in America's Funniest Videos, etc-come on can you really compare a one-shot video to five years of money-grubbing parents exploiting their children. Sure the video was made to make money and then they were done with it, we never see them again.
1. This is a reality TV show...the scenes are cut to create drama and keep people watching. It is unfair to draw any conclusionas about Jon or Kate as individuals or their marriage from the small slices we are privy to.
2. Sadly, divorce is so common perhaps it is not a bad thing to see what challenges and issues couples combat everyday while determining whether or not to stay married. Jon's admission of infidelity is even another layer to deal with.
3. Keep in mind Jon and Kate want to keep things "normal" for their chikldren during this trying time. "Normal" for them involves the cameras filming their lives. Pulling the plug on the show would be a disruption in that sense also.
Of course. I got sick of the show a long time ago – long before it turned into this mess.
I feel badly for the children.
He wants out, she wants to keep exploiting herself and the kids. There are other ways to make a living. She was a nurse, he was in IT. They can support their family in other ways.
I hope TLC pulls the plug.
I believe they can continue with the show as JON & KATE and leave out the PLUS 8. Everyone is now watching to watch the marriage issue.
PLEASE STOP EXPLOITING THE CHILDREN NOW!
And BTW, can someone PLEASE TELL BOSSY KATE TO GET A REAL HAIR STYLE. What the heck is she thinking??? Her hair is hideous and no where near DIVA looking.
$$$ PLEASE! She most certainly has the money for it. $$$
These types of shows are reflective of the greed of entertainment execs and the hunger of the ignorant minds that sit on couches and eat this up.
I love their show, always have. I feel very bad for Jon & Kate b/c they got married young, had so many kids @ a young age- it can be stressful. J&K are typical husband and wife IMO. The wife always has high expectations and wants the husband to step up to the plate- he never does. You saw in 1 epi how J asked her if she needed something and she was stunned, and very happy. You would think he'd do it again? Women feel this natural pressure to make things perfect all of the time, esp for their kids- and they want the help. When they dont get it- the husband gets treated like a child as well, another problem to be taken care of. They need couples counseling definitely. As for the kids, I dont see this as abuse- they seem genuinely happy, like normal kids. They cry and laugh and fight and hug like normal kids. A lot of ppl are just haters, and are resentful of the fact that they are rich now and can afford to do fabulous things. If they were still poor and getting free things, ppl would love it. Ppl love rags to riches stories, but it always ends there. No one likes to watch the rich- bc then you compare it to your own life. I think Kate is justified in everything she's done. Has she been hard on Jon? Yes! Did he deserve it? Yes! Step up to the plate, constantly try to better yourself, and work on your marriage! Your kids deserve it. Dont give up, dont feel reserntful of the fact that Kate is successful @ her job- revel in the fact that you have a tough wife, the mother of your 8 children. Everything she is doing benefits you as well (nice car Jon- Season 5 opener). Also, any relatives coming out of the woodwork- Jodi and Kevin- shame on you! If you want them to stop being on tv- try and change legislation- write to your congressman, do it provately. Doing it publicly (for $ or not) is NOT the right thing to do. That is your blood- and if Kate did throw a hissyfit @ the thought of you getting money, get over it- its your blood. You want to make things "better" for the kids? Guess what, you made things worse. You'll probably never see them again- you're making ratings higher for the show, you're benefitting monetarily, you are making a bad name for yourself and for YOUR own children, and again- you are not helping the Goeeslin 8. Stop acting like you are the sole protector of children's rights. You are scum in my book.
The answer is obvious, but the almighty dollar (greed) will win. Very sad . . .
I totally agree with jenny the show is not forever but there marriage should be good luck you two
Quit the show now for the kids' sake. I will not watch anymore.
There are a lot of people struggling to support their families – maybe they don't have 8 children, but they are having to provide the same basic necessities for the ones they have. Why should this family receive all the "freebies" they've been given, along with getting $75,000 per episode, just because they have 8 children. I work with a man who has 12 children – his yearly salary is less than $100k per year – his wife is a stay-at-home mom – and no one has offered to put them on television or give them any help. He is looking at providing food, clothing, housing, and education for all of his children. He doesn't live in a million dollar home, Disney has never given his family a "free" vacation, his wife hasn't had a "free" tummy tuck, etc. Kate needs to get some deep counseling to resolve the issues she has – which stems from her childhood obviously. She is an extremely negative person and I believe somewhat jealous of Jon's life prior to marrying her. Kate complains about her life growing up and Jon has wonderful memories. Before this marriage can be saved, Kate needs to save herself.
I have always been a big fan of the show since the very beginning. It was great to see the banter between Jon and Kate and know they still loved each other. Things have changed now and Jon is seeking other relationships obviously. I am sickened by his behavior, he became a celebrity and used it to his advantage. I am very saddened to say that I will no longer be watching the show.
All of you hypocrites need to take a deep breath. These kids are filmed two days a week for 2 hours. We are not in their daily lives. The notion that this showing is exploiting them is silly. The show is on because all of you watch, so stop with the judgements and mind your own business. Maybe you would like america to come in in to your home and judge you, huh!
Leave them alone and if you don't like it, don't WATCH!
The "Plus Eight" now really means millions of dollars, not the kids. Jon and Kate have sold out, the producers of this show are just as guilty by letting it continue. The public is intrigued by watching the public demise of people, so the popularity of the show should not be a surprise.
Jon and Kate have clearly decided that the fame and dollars attached to this show is more important than the healthy upbringing of their children. No small child should be forced to go through this on TV.
The court system will force a 13-year-old boy to undergo chemotherapy as treatment to a physical form of cancer, yet stand by and do nothing about this emotional and psychological form of cancer? I, for one, believes that this is a form of child abuse that will utlimately lead to their later treatments of A&D rehab, depression, and potentially suicide attempts or successes.
And when that happens, someone will say, "Gee, maybe somebody shoulda done something to stop this." As for me, my TV set is on another channel.
Amen Amber! You nailed it with my sentiments exactly. Stop focusing on the negative and look towards the positive. These folks will figure out on their own if continuing the show is good for them or not. Their show is no different than the Duggars, Table for 12 or Little People Big World. All can be done tastefully. Give these folks a chance to work this out. The could use our prayers right now not our criticism.
They both need a good kick in the ass and to grow up! Quit the show and be parents to their kids like the rest of us.....40 years ago LOTS of people had big families and dealt with it with little money or support. Suck it up!
This may have begun as a way to document the family's activities – but Kate became a celebrity and obsessed by the 'free' stuff and opportunities like trips and museum visits. And two home upgrades – good for them, but only to a point – this is a truly opportunistic pair. The baseball game – what other family was allowed a box out of the sun, free stuff, and a visit with team reps? Work (?) – book signing trips do not have to take place, but it is a way of stepping into a spotlight, even if just in a book store. Beyond that, her 'celebrity' status gave her the impression the show is all about her, and things became all abouther. John is constantly bullied, publicly. But Jon should have put his foot down way before things got to this point. SAD!
What is the money if you are not a family to share it? Family is everything. They need to stop the show and work on their Life together, if they both want to have a life together. Having cameras around will NOT help them. They need to take time without the public watching everything they do on TV. You can not work on your marriage in front of Millions of viewers. They need to make their home a private place, a fortress, without any outside influance to work on what they have, and try to repair any damage that has been done.
PLEASE!!! Stop!!!! This is a crazy soap opera. John and Kate make their living and support their family with the $$ they get from this show. The family trips, etc. etc. courtesy of TLC. If you have kids or had kids you got to see them cry, break things, have temper tantrums, etc. why watch someone else's kids do it and now we are to watch them sort out a bad marriage – or is this all just for the cameras. The ratings were up for the premier maybe they hit on something – a reality show about a failing marriage!
C'mon y'all. They need to make more money to pay for these kids and their pricey college educations. I say keep the show going and negotiate higher fees for themselves. So, Jon and Kate, GO FOR MORE MONEY and don't look back. Kate does need to work a little on her nasty attitude – I suppose that is helpful for ratings at times.
Don't be player haters y'all!
What a fiasco -these reality shows are.
I can't imagine that families who watched the show together would want their children watching now unless the focus shifts off Jon & Kate and back onto the kids. The premiere was not at all appropriate for children to watch. As much as I have enjoyed this family, perhaps it is time to take a break and work out the marriage issues.
They need to quit the show and focus on themselves!! Kate can still write books from home and Jon did work outside the home at one point, so I can imagine he can do it again.
Okay, I absolutely agree with Jenny. That's EXACTLY how I feel!
At this point, I think TLC should wise up and cancelt he show. It doesn't seem Kate is willing to quit, so, perhaps, TLC should do the right thing and cancel. No amount of money is more important than family, and I think as a whole, we the viewers have become greedy and enjoy watching the pain this family is going through. I think it is time the get some privacy back and work on being a family again.
who cares about these people and these reality shows...
I have never watched this show, and I do not intend to start now. If you think the show ought to be pulled, stop watching it and let the sponsors know. With enough polite negative feedback, they will pull the advertising dollars, then the show will be pulled from the lineup. The parents can then choose to keep a public blog/website, or they can choose to remain fairly quiet.
First, they should NEVER had have those children in front of a camera to begin with, they TOTALLY exploited those children from day one. Second, is anyone really all that shocked that they're having these marriage issues? Good grief, not only is 8 children a strain on ANY marriage, but to have a camera stuck in your face while trying to raise them and keep your marriage together....boy that makes it easier!! Jon and Kate should be ashamed of themselves in so many ways!
As long as people keep watching the show, giving it ratings, it will stay on. If people are really over it, they need to show it by NOT tuning in. Society loves to judge as long as their own actions are not brought into question. If we are so worried about the kids in front of the camera, STOP viewing them in front of the camera.
I think TLC has some responsibility and take this show off the air. And I think Jon and Kate quit using their children for their income. My gosh she is a nurse and he is a IT specialist.
Having these kids filmed when they are crying and then letting it be a close up so all of America can see is cruel.
Television should be entertaining I can not understand why this program keeps going on and on.
It was my favorite show all week now I cringe at the thought of it. No more for me
I also feel that since they are making such good money per episode and with her books they need to pay back people who helped support them when they were almost penniless.
And if Jon wants to see other women then he needs to leave his wife not matter what she is (and she is something else) she does not deserve to be cheated on.
I don't think being publicized on national TV is good for any family as you're forced to act at times and cannot be yourself.
I find Kate has been trying to be this "star" lately. If she thinks she's "cool" she's absolutely not. I would never let myself be treated like the way Kate treats Jon. She acts as though he's her oldest child.
THe ones I really feel sorry for is the children.
The camera the show isn't hurting the kids.The show has taken steps all along to respect when the children didn't want to be on camera.What hurting the kids is the paparazzi following them.And people speaking out of turn to get there 15 min of fame.Kaye brother and sister in law saw no harm when they were on the show regular .Jon love the money see his new sport car.Alwa drinking and talking to woman.For a man who say he all about hsi kids.Then he show get marriage counseling.He quit his job two yrs ago.And doesn't look interested in working again.Are being aroudn the kids as he says.Kate out promoting her book the show.All things that will benefit the family.So if Jon not working for the good of the family he needs to leave period.He just needs to remember being a parent.Doesn't mean you can walk away .When you get tired it a full time job.
Go Amber! I totally agree...Plus, things like this happen everyday; this particular situation is only noticed because they're on TV, so maybe they should take a break for awhile and see if it helps.
How can they deem this a "private" moment when millions were witness to it. The media needs to let these people handle their issues off camera and focus on stabilizing a normal family enviroment for their children. "Normal" being without the scrunity of media hounds wanting an inside look on their personal lives. When the cameras are off, if ever, no one is gonna care about how this Family is doing.....so just let the show end already. YES THE MONEY IS IMPORTANT FOR THE FUTURE EDUCATION OF THE CHILDREN, BUT LETS BE HONEST HERE FOLKS. THIS SHOW HASN'T BEEN ABOUT THE KIDS FOR A LONG TIME. PEOPLE TUNE IN TO SEE THE DRAMA UNFOLD. SERIOUS DECISIONS NEED TO BE MADE. A FAMILY'S WELL BEING IS AT STAKE.
This is about money to the network. I think they like that this is happening. The show needs to end. The family needs to rally together, and privately work things out. I won't watch the show. I've never seen it and I think it's disgusting that this is turning into a media free for all. We need not feed into it.
This is about as interesting as the "are they real" debates that you see on the tabloid shows. I did not even read the article and I am bored with it. I will put Jon and Kate and their 8 on my list with Lindsy ,Brittany, Paris, Parez, etc. Wake up America...There are IMPORTANT things goin' on and you need to be paying attention to those!
It is time for this family to return to reality, if possible. I hope sends a message to other families that think they can survive being put under the microscrope. This is child abuse in a different form..abuse for profit.
I agree 100% with Jenny!
We all see how Kate snaps at Jon sometimes, but lets not forget the snide remarks that Jon makes to Kate. Before Kate started touring promoting her books, she was a stay at home mom ..... now that Jon is home, he's feeling some of the same things that Kate felt, only he's a man and don't know how to deal with them ..... this is a 2 way street ... stop placing the blame. I would not like to see the show go off air, but I do think that Jon & Kate needs counseling.
Yes I think the show should be pulled. I don't want to watch other people struggling and I think the TV status makes it so much worse.
I think the parents are both selfish and extremely greedy.....my heart bleeds for those children...this doesn't need to be on TV anymore. I hope and pray the everything will work itself out for the sake of those kids....they should be the most important thing in the eyes of their parents and it is quite obvious that is not so....very sad...;(
Leave this poor couple alone. Does anyone else realize that the TV show can "cut" the film to make it whatever they want? Couldn't it be that the show just shows us Kate "belittling" Jon and it just shows us Jon being a "whipping boy." Would you like it if the media just showed your bad moments? I don't believe there is anything wrong with doing what you need to take care of your family but maybe it is time for them to stop filming and figure out how to stay a family. Everyone needs to leave them alone and let them work out their problems in peace; just like we would all like have done for us.
Jon and Kate – please know that the whole world is not against you but hope you all the best! Remember why you fell in love to begin with and start from there...
I really, really hope Jon and Kate work it out and stay together and not just for the sake of the children. As for doing with the show, I can't imagine trying to support that many children. You do what you have to do to make money in this day and age. Would the children be better off not being on tv but having two exhausted working parents who don't even make enough money to buy their clothes let alone take them on vacations. They will remember those trips, free or not. I will never be able to afford to take my grandchildren (3) on the kinds of vacations these kids have gotten. I don't think they are exploited. Maybe the show and the money has gone to the paren'ts heads but unless they still have a way to support the children in the manner that they have become accustomed to I think the show should continue.
The sadest thing is ... is the network is probably THRILLED about this – it will bring up the ratings for the show and make them more $$. Because apparently people love to watch other people's misery and that is really sad... says a lot about society!
This is not something that should be on Television, those poor kids get to watch this crap when they get older and then they will understand that the entire world got to watch there parents marriage fall apart in front of the nation!
Stop the show. Let's pick it back up in another 15 years. By then the kids will be in college and they can re-title it "Jon & Kate Plus 8 Mortgages."
They should definitely quit the show, money and fame cannot buy happiness. Their children should come first and they should not publicize their problems. The media needs to take a step back and let them Jon and Kate work out their problems in private.
I have been watching the show since last August and of course they played every since episode from beginning until the end of season 4 and you could see how happy they looked right up until the new season started. I know that they feel that they have given the children so much by getting them a house that they can run and explore inside and out, but I think with the way things have turned out, yes they should end it so that hopefully they can return to the happy little family they were.
I think it's a shame that this beautiful family's "dirty laundry" is being aired out on the ENTERTAINMENT page of CNN and the tabloids. What has become of us as Americans that the destruction of a family is entertainment? This is TLC's fault as much as it is Jon and Kate's, if not more! I think their intentions were good in the beginning, but TLC is the one that is exploiting the family! Please, Please, Please let this family get the help they need. The world is sick enough w/ out putting this sad show on T.V for everyone to see.
This is so sad.
Why do we as humans and mature adults put ourselves and our families, including our kids thru such turmoil, such sadness, such unhappiness, such low valves and morals all for MONEY.
So now the question is...Does money make us Happy?
The money got to them. Kate wants to be single without kids so she can now play with her dollars and Jon wants to be rid of Kate so he can be a playboy. The kids are left in the dust. The kids are now just there to help rake in the dollars.
I think it is their decision so let them make it. It's not easy raising two children much less eight so I think they are doing the best they can.
We should not always read what is in print have we not learned that lesson!!
if they care about the kids stop filming the breakdown of the family, it is going to destroy their lives. I would rather live poor and work on being a happy family again than live in a mansion that TLC bought and be misserable. If you hate the camers and people following you all the time GET OFF TV. simple solution
Love this show!! It's great entertainment!!
This whole thing I believe is ridiculous. I don't feel like anyones family should be on display. They are getting paid awhole lot of money to show us all there problems. There are enough issues without having to constantly watch another families! We don't get paid to air all our laundry on national tv. This I think is really poor parenting. We all make mistakes but do it in our home and not for the whole world to see.
If you truly think the show should end, STOP WATCHING!
They shot an episode at my store and the kids are miserable with those cameras. Every time someone starts crying, all of the cameras bolt over to that kid and stick the camera – literally – in their faces. I felt bad watching them tape the show. Jon was very nice and met everyone. SHE walked in later and ignored everyone and was looking at me with a scowl even though I had just watched her kids for an hour. Nasty woman.
I think they should stop. Poor kids, having to grow up in front of millions of pairs of eyes, watching their every move, commenting on every single thing in their lives. This is not about you anymore, Kate, give it up, the kids need you and their father together. They don't need the television audience!!
Yes, I think Jon and Kate should quit the show. I used to love watching it, but now realize that it's just exploiting the children. Kate needs to get real and Jon needs to be heard....and I don't see that happening until they are out of "camera" sight. The children deserve to have a natural environment to live in, not the one that they're living in.
I do think that they should stop filming the show and fix their marriage first. That is more important than popularity and money. For the kids sake.
There are enough sad things happening in the the world – I don't need to watch what was one of favorite shows to be depressed. Jon and Kate need to stop fliming and take care of their relationship and kids. I pray it works out for all.
I have to say that I'm very disappointed in Jon & Kate along with TLC. It seems that Kate has been more intent on talking to the media lately than to her spouse, which was extremely obvious in the season opener as they didn't seem to even acknowledge each other. This tells me that she doesn't really want to resolve any issues they have. I don't believe that Jon cheated but I do think he made a couple of bad choices. But from what she says, he was never comfortable with the whole reality show deal and the exposure it presents so I'm not sure why she's surprised now. And although I'm hoping they can work it out because they seemed like such a great couple and have some awesome kids, the fact that they've (or she's) chosen to carry on with the show kind of proves where their priorities are. And I think TLC should share some blame here as I would think that after sharing the success of the show for 4 years, the least they could do is step up and offer to postpone the show until they can figure out what's happening to their family. If Kate thinks the children are sheltered from what is going on between them, then she isn't as intelligent as I thought she was. That one moment in the show the other night proves that even the 5 year olds have noticed something is amiss. And Maddy & Cara are far too intelligent to not have figured out the problems, especially with Kate going on and on about how helpful they have been lately. It's natural for children to feel empathy and want to fix things when they know a parent is hurting, especially for girls. I have also written to Dr. Phil about this situation and asked that maybe he can step in and offer some help since he's done so before for other celebrity couples in crisis. If anyone can help this family, it's Dr. Phil. And I was extremely disappointed seeing the interview with Kate's brother and his wife claiming the exploitation of those children. Funny how we hadn't heard from them in the previous four years of the show or did the exploitation just start? It seems to me that instead of everyone and their dog coming out of the woodwork to criticize and berate this couple, if they are really champions of these wonderful children, they should be doing everything in their power to help this family get through this difficult period. Jon, I know that you're hurting along with Kate and that you never seemed to be fully on board with this whole deal, but your kids truly need you now and I really do think Kate still loves you and you guys really need to stop the show and just get into some counselling. The majority of your fans are rooting for you both to come through this stronger and more unified and I'm confident if you can get Kate and kids away from the cameras and off somewhere alone, you can find your way back to what brought you two together in the first place. Kate, your books will sell themselves without you traveling on book tours to promote them. Jon, if you need to go back to work to find your purpose and happiness then that's what you should do. Whatever happens, those kids are proof of your love and devotion to them and each other and you just need to focus on them and each other right now. Although we will truly miss watching those beautiful children, it's more important for you to save your family. God bless!
They are unlikable and obviously are exploiting their family circumstances for $ gain. They shouldn't quit, they should be cancelled.
they are no better the the octomom, all of you please go away
If there are problems in the family, stop the TV production and focus and keeping the family together through counseling. Jon and Kate owe this to their children. I thought Kate would be a SMART nurse to figure that one out.
Should they quit the show? Absolutely. Will they? No–I think the pull of money and fame is too strong, particularly for Kate. TLC is going to have to pull the plug in order for them to quit–and incidentally, shame on you, TLC, for allowing this mess to continue!
Regardless of what Jon and Kate want, should TLC not shoulder the blame? It is apparent that they do not care, there are surely other shows that people would enjoy. I know I would. I hardly ever watch TLC anymore because that is all that is on. I cannot believe how many reruns they show, they have had other interesting series that were very enjoyable. We could all use a change and give them a hiatus to work out their problems.
Kate was about the most hateful wife I have seen. In my circle of friends and family we had all gotten tired of that before the other issues came into the picture and had quit watching it as much, Are we the only ones who felt that way.
I find fault with TLC.
Absolutely stop the show! I can't believe that there aren't child labor laws or other laws out there to protect these 8 children from their parents using them as cash cows! It is obvious that Jon wanted to take a break from the show, but heaven forbid if Kate would have to go back to living a "normal" life! How can 2 people that have absolutely NO talent, except for having 8 kids, be multimillionaires, only in America as they say. J&K and TLC should do everyone a favor and stop this train wreck and maybe(GASP!) J&K will actually have to go back to working the jobs that they had before having the 6 children. The children should come first, but apparently that is not the case in this disaster of a relationship!
The show is titled
JON & KATE Plus 8
The show is about a FAMILY, Parents and Children, not one or the other.
Families have issues
Families have drama
Families are NOT PERFECT!!!!!
When everything was cute and somewhat normal everyone criticized Kate for every little thing she did. Would she be better to be OCTOMOM? Jon and Kate have taken care of those children, long before this show!
NOW everyone is so far above this family that they have the right to pick them apart and judge them. Well, I would like to drop off 8 kids in some married couples house for 2 straight days and see how NICE and SWEET they are to each other. See if one spouse happens to not ask prettty please for something, maybe then we can tear them apart.
The appeal of REALITY TV is that it is a REALITY!
Everyone needs to get off their high horse and stop judging!
Are there no other husbands in this world accused of cheating??? They should all get top story on PEOPLE for a few days, weeks.
Are there no wives how have a bad day? Who get an attitude on occasion? Well let's make them top story on US weekly for a few days, weeks!?
I think people need to look in the mirronr and stop criticizing people that they cannot even imagine their situation.
I think that Jon and Kate are having problems, their kids are healthy and well cared. NOW they are being exploided and blah blah blah
This country is so quick to throw people under the bus!
Everyone get over your self!
Jon and Kate- good luck. You have been through so much all ready
Marriage is not easy but you can get through this. The show is not forever but your marriage should be.
Everyone i quick to jump on the bandwagon and tell them to quit. Well, here's another point that may be worth considering. Contracts have been signed, right? Has there been any one of you that want them to pull the plug seen their contract? It may well be that it is not the couple themselves who could decide to quit the show. Just maybe they have to abide by a contract. Instead of being so quick to judge Jon & Kate and tell them to pull them plug, someone needs to consider what TLC is doing. They are making money off of this with their high ratings and they are going to milk it for everything it's worth. I admit I watch the season opener. But after witnessing the train wreck, I choose not to tune in again. That is your choice to do also. If you don't want to see it, send TLC a message and TURN THE CHANNEL.
The parents, producers, and media are using the family for ratings and financial gain.... plain and simple. Kate is the decision maker in the family and has said she likes being in front of the camera, taking advantage of all opportunities to push herself out there and to maintain her "poor me, hardworking mother" illusion. Although Jon says he doesn't appreciate the attention and obviously doesn't like appearing on the show anymore, apparently he isn't strong enough to stand up to his wife as she wants to keep receiving those paychecks. This show is no longer about keeping a record of the kids growing up or providing for their future.... it has turned into a business venture for mom and the producers.
yes they should quit. or it's going to be
I love the family and the show. It is real life – and real life is not always happy. My heart goes out to both Jon and Kate, and the kids. I hope the show continues, no matter the outcome of the marriage. I think the kids are fairly used to the filming, it is what they have grown up with. What they are not used to is the trouble between Jon and Kate, and perhaps with the filming as usual they will have some 'normalcy' to their otherwise upside-down life. So sad, but so REAL.
They have a great show and its nice to see how the kids grow and
learn. The tabloids need to leave them alone. What a bunch of
crap they make up just to sell their magazine. I'm sure Kate & Jon
will get things back on track they both love their kids and are good
parents. If people don,t like what they do just don,t watch the
show nobodys holding a gun to head making you watch.
They are working hard to give their kids a good life and a nice home.
Yes, they should quit the show for the kids. Aren't they now exec. producers of the show–can't they quit? If they are contractually bound, then do the bare minimum and quit the show when the contract is up. As for making money–they SHOULD have plenty by now–if they have been conservative with their spending. They don't "need" a 6200 square foot house with an 800 sq ft apartment over the garage, out buildings, a barn, and 26 acres. Really, c'mon. What will they do to make money–whatever anyone else in America does and has done in the past with "reality" TV–what do the Dilleys and McCaugheys do? Anyway, can't they survive off of the book sales, DVD royalties, and Kates $25,000 a pop speaking appearances? Where are the priorities in this family and in society?
And Carlos Diaz, do some research and get your facts straight!
kate is in awe of herself ..i believe l tlc needs to take then off the air. kate is pretending love to much not that she does not love them she just loves the show more.jon has never been shown respect kate showed more love for the dog.it is time for tlc to boot them off or call it the kates drama show and give jon a show i am human being.the part i really hate is were they let the big twin get away with always hitting thef litte ones i never could understand that pure bulling a lot the way kate did with jon.she never expressed love toward jon only put downs..i want to see them survive get counceling in parenting as well as marriarge .TV STATIONS get out and give them a chance.
Several weeks ago I would have said NO. I didn't want the media to threaten my favorite show. Now, I say, yes, please stop. I would tell Jon and Kate to please stop and save their family and marriage. They both always say 'we do everthing for our kids' but I'm guessing, divorce was not one of them. Please please please Jon and Kate, save you family and marriage. You should have plenty of money to keep you set, Jon can go back to work and perhaps Kate can keep us in the loop with an occasional book or two – or do a TV special once a year to keep those of us who love them updated.
I THINK THEY NEED TO GET BACK TO THEIR REGULAR LIVES.
AND LEAVE THE SHOW, SEEMS TO ME THAT FAME, FORTUNE & MATERIALISM HAS GONE TO THEIR HEADS.
THEY ARE EXPLOITING THEIR CHILDREN AND IT SHOULD NOT
BE ALLOWED TO CONTINUE. IT IS CHILD ABUSE, BEING TELEVISED NATIONALLY
I think these two should do what is best for their family. It is evident that they both loved their children and that should be the most important issue. It was heartbreaking to see Jon and Alexis discuss the fact that they both missed each and the love was so evident when he told her to go and play. TLC should be the grown-up in this on-going drama. Stop the show, offer them counseling, alone or together, pay them the money they would have made and allow everyone to bow out as gracefully as possible. To continue it now would make the viewers become voyeurs of a most private matter between husband and wife. Allow these two people to decide what they want and what is best for the kids. Please allow these children to have a somewhat normal remaining childhood. In all of this, I hope Kate finds insight into behavior which I believe added to the downfall of their marriage. An added note, I could not believe how rude she was to Steve Thomas when he was trying to enlighten her on the benefits of going green. Her self-centeredness, immaturity, and apparent disdain for anything that did not promote was so embarrassint to view.
Jon and Kate show is a great opportunity to be able to raise that many children and have money for college. Without the show–the children would be neglected due to the fact they would both have to work or go on welfare. This way they not only can support the children well but have the time to be parents and they are good loving parents–those kids get a lot of love and you can't beat that!
I would say Jon and Kate need to deal with their problems and get past things-we all have problem and humps in marriage and they are no different. This show proves it.
please quit the show and save your marriage...without a strong marriage the family crumples...if you really did the show for the children, now, quit the show for the children
Call it quits for the children. From what has been reported you should have enough money to raise those kids. Years ago it was normal to have families of 8 or more kids and they did fine without millions. The show really doesn't contribute much and now people are watching to see how the marriage ends up. Sad really. Those kids need a normal life with or without both parents. I have stopped watching as it was different when the kids were babies but now it is just dirt.
I think it's a shame that you people set out intentionally to destroy happy families and people lives. This story about jon and kate is sad because the only real information about this so called "affair" is a picture of him in a car. This family has been living a happy life on television for 5yrs. and nothing has been said until now and lets remember children are involved, as a matter fact, why are there no reports on these children that are being abused,kidnapped and even murdered. There are plenty of other stories that are more important than jon and kate. It's sad, here we have a new President in office looking for a change and eveyone working together to make the world a better place and the only thing you've done is turned a positive into a negative. When are we going to wake up and come together this should be a happy time a nation reunitied not divided. Find a story that's helpful not harmful and I know it's plenty out there right at your back door but I know a child being abused or murdered isn't juicy gossip and that is sad.So to all that reports negative stories please get a life, because if you had a happy one maybe you would'nt be so negative have you thought about that?
If not for their kids for their marriage. I watched a news brief on Jon and Kate today and she said "if the show must become Kate plus eight it will." Her husband should be the most important thing to her if she wants to truly save her marriage and if she truly is sorry.
they should take the show off bcuz they need to think about there kids there hurting the kids stop thinking bout ur self and pay attition 2 ur kids
I used to watch Jon & Kate but not lately.. My initial thought to their alleged affairs was How would either of them, especially Kate, have the time or the energy for an affair?? My second thought is How do we know that the "affair" storyline isn't creative Drama contrived by their Producers, etc? Say, as a way to finally end the Jon & Kate series.. sort of like "killing off" the character who is leaving the show.. Anyway, I hope it isn't true, and I'd hate for that to happen to a nice family with all those little children
I think Kate is being very selfish,she couldn't even have the kids party on there birthday because she had to go to the tanning salon on mothers day, and i think Jon and the kids want to quit the show. I have freinds who had quads the first time and triplets the second set(all boys) and they have no problems keeping a record of them growing up and they would not put their kids on t.v. for money and ratings, they just let their kids be kids.
I think it's disgusting that this couple continue to dance in front of cameras while they argue about their differences. I can't stand this show. Kate is a self-important, over-indulged, narcissistic person. I feel sorry for all those kids; they have an immature, selfish father who cheats, and a mother with absolutely no character. When this couple divorces, and you know they will eventually, these poor children will be left in a single-parent household with parents who are emotionally unavailable to them.
I am a grandmother but I have enjoyed watching this show. The season premier was heart breaking. Kate is quiet the LADY ha!
She is a good mother. But so bossy> I realize with that many children
someone has to be organized. It is the way she treats her husband.
He has issues also. Money is the driving force in this situation. It is not fair for childrem to have to go thru what they are. I probably won't watch the program anymore. It is cruel to put children thru what they see thier parents doing to each other. John has some problems also.
But in life who doesn't
I do think that they should cancel the show and concentrate on their family matter now. That will give them a chance to breath and maybe get back together. Right now they have to many things on the go to give a chance about their relationship.
I wish them and their family all the best!
For the good of the kids, they should leave behind this reality TV mess! Money isn't everything - they made a conscious decision to go through with it and have 8 kids, so they need to live with the consequences and get jobs and use family to help raise these kids. The kids all seem delightful and well-raised but i think this might change if this family remains on TV...or maybe she should just STAY HOME with her kids instead of traveling all over to promote herself and her family and let her husband get a job again!
If 84% think that this is child exploitation, then why did the show rate record viewers.
People...you are contributing to the exploitation of these children by watching this show. The show would not exist if you don't watch it.
Give this family a break. Marriages often suffer after the birth of 1 child, let alone 6. You would think that the couple would want to work on their marriage if they wanted it to survive. If they don't, why would you want to watch the damaged strewn on those 8 babies?
Get a life of your own.
I think that these kids have been able to experience many things that they would not have been able to if not for the show. The vacations, the behind the scenes tours of the zoo and many many more things that I am sure have enriched their lives. I just want to say how despicable I think Kate's brother and sister in law were for going on a national TV show to talk about how they felt the kids were being exploited. Did they also feel the kids were being exploited when they themselves were on the show or did that just start after they were no longer featured on TV? Shame on them! How do they think the kids felt about their statements? If I were Kate I would never forgive them. Were they getting their on fifteen minutes of fame or hoping for their own show? Jealousy is all I saw . And Bethany when did you become a therapist ? You are not married ,but are giving advice on how to keep a marriage?? Can't keep a boyfriend! and you say we are paying their bills, aren't we also paying your bills. Because I never held of you before Real housewives of New York. I have more but no more space
While I believe the original intent of these people to provide a record of their children growing up was a nice idea, the circus this whole thing has become is sickening beyond belief.
You cannot pick up a paper or a magazine without having the wife being shown ignoring her kids and doing her own thing while the father is going from bars to bars it seems, in search of God-know-what.
These people obviously no longer have the welfare of whatever they want to call that "family", at heart. it is beyond me why TLC, a network that use to be fun to watch, now panders to trash like that. but then this is the network that stoop lower than that when it glorified murders and embazzlers when it aired that GOTTI thing.
All in the name of good fun on TLC !!!
The thing to do would be to take the show off the air. and allow these people to get on with their lives, away from the medias. at the very least, these children should be taken away from their parents if half of what is printed is the truth...
But PEOPLE and the NATIONAL INQUIRER would no doubt cry foul for killing the golden calf...
Because, this is America and we love a fall from grace even more than we love seeing people happy...
I think it's time to take a break from the show until both people resolve their marital problems...whether it's to dissolve or save the marriage. I think now is an especially sensitive time in their lives and to continue the show is hurting the kids since it's broadcasting this difficult time to the world which should be kept private. These children will grow up and may resent this later in life...which is why now is a better time to pull the plug.
THESE COCKROACHES WILL NEVER GIVE UP THE MONEY!
CPS should take the kids away. End of story!
I hope the kids sue their parents and TLC.
They should give back all the money they took from the churches when they had millions and are earning $75,000.00 a week.
These people have $30 million in the bank, millions more in residuals, dvd's, books, and products, all the freebies, and they are still selling their "We are saving for the kids college fund story".
i think the show Jon and kate started out with good intentions,However it has taken a mind of its own.People for some reason love to watch other people live(,Celebrities.) When a show like this comes on it was great, now rumors of them cheatting on each other , makes u think are they really or is it all about ratings. I hear if they get divored , the show will go on, anything to make a buck in the world. I hope that some of the money is going to the kids and not just them self. If they Kate and Jon , Aren't cheating on each other then they are Really good actor and shows us the laughs on us .
Are we stupited Americans and give into this show, doest it needs the a ratings , God what has this world turned into.
I do think that if Kate really cares about her family, she'll take them out of the spotlight and work on keeping her family together. The comments regarding what she does as her "job" says it all. Is Kate exploiting her family just to make a buck?
No- Jon and Kate should quit the show because it's the right thing to do. Enough already. Stop.
Yes I think they need to keep it as normal as possible for the kids but they should not talk bad about each other in front of the kids. I hope that they work things out because their a beautiful family.
While I don't think it is a good idea for this to be played out on TV, I don't think it will hurt the kids in the long run. You need to realize that the TV's, cameras etc is all these kids know. I think that it would hurt them more if all of a sudden all the crews and cameras were gone. From the show it seems that the camera operators and TLC staff are part of the "family". It may feel to them as abandonment.
I don't know. That is just my opinion.
I think that everyone needs to mind their own business..let them live their lives and take care of their beautiful children...
Yes they should, This has never been fair to the children. They didn't ask to have their lives broadcast to the world. I for one, have quit watching the show. It was cute at first, but it has become unbearable to watch.
If they can iron out this marital problem and return to focusing on the children and their activities, then I would like to see the show remain. I will not watch a show if it is going to be another sad divorce soap opera. The beauty of the show was a happy, loving family who provided a role model for other young people.
No, it is not fair for Jon and Kate to be putting their children in front of the camera. Why do so many in the mainstream media think it is just fine to film children since they have been babies and expose them on national television every week (40-50 episodes per season!)? These kids never had a choice in whether they would become reality stars, their parents chose that for them, I think it is really sick. These parents care more about keeping the money flowing in than anything else, and Kate loves the fame.
If adults want to act like morons on a reality show, and sell their souls for fame and money, that's one thing, but it is wrong to do this to kids.
If they really love their children,they should take a deep breath and look into their babies eyes and ask them...Do you want the cameras to go away?
From the mouth of babes...I am sure of what their response would be...
love your children and leave all that mess behind.
We've always enjoyed watching the show, esp. the kids, but the season opener was uncomfortable to watch. The tension between John and Kate is like watching a pending train wreck. My husband and I both agree that it took us back to painful times when Alexis told her daddy that she didn't want him to "leave anymore". We don't want to watch this, having lived through divorces with children. We agreed that a decision should be made – stay or go. If they could mend their marriage they should do it and do it off the air. The kids deserve two parents who can be pleasant to each other and concentrate on the kids needs.
I've been watching the show for years now. I think if they're going to quit the show, they should quit for themselves (and the kids) to work on their marriage. Sure, Kate appears abrasive and Jon largely passive. But that is the nature of many couples where the wife manages the household, especially where the husband is the sole breadwinner and goes to work. This appears to be another case in which the husband becomes resentful of his wife for growing personally and forming her own identity through work. Jon has said their roles have reversed and he's handling it poorly. Regardless of whether either of them cheated, they should be able to deal with this in private.
They're not actors looking to be famous and shouldn't be subjected to the paparazzi 24 hours a day. They did the show as a documentary, which is what made it successful. The compensation they get is spent largely on the kids so the parents can give each child experiences as normal as possible. The kids are greatly benefitting from the show (e.g. trips they otherwise could not afford, a big new house with room to run around) and are not being exploited.
Kevin and Jodi have a right to voice their opinion about what they view as child exploitation. But people should also question their motivations. They are shopping their side of the story around. If they were really concerned, they should be talking for free. I'm sure they're still angry for not being paid for their appearances on the show (supposedly Kate's doing) and may be trying to get back at Kate. But really - would a wholesome brother really do that to his sister, no matter how irritating she was? Speaks more of them than her.
ENOUGH of this show. What we can voice as our opinion doesn't actually matter as much as our actions. If collectively, we stop watching, then they will not keep the show on. If Kate & Jon want their own show, give them own (and see how long that lasts!) but keep the innocent children out of this side show.
They need to work things out first, and they need to let TLC know, that the episodes will be cut in half, until counseling, and alone time are in order to get this family back together for the sake of the children.
Finally!! Some attention has been brought to how pathetic this show has truly become! Kate is a money obsessed diva, who does nothing but gripe about her problems all day long. And shame on Jon, for allowing her to lead him around like a 2 year old, scolding him for "goofing off". If the 2 of them had a real bond, he wouldn't allow her to berate him like that. For the sake of their adorable children, PLEASE STOP THE SHOW!! Do not let this leave a permanent scar on their lives, stop this craziness now, an maybe we can do some repair on the 8 little lives we have destroyed.
The question of what is in the childrens best interest lies in the eyes of the parents, not the media.
We are not raising those children. We do not have to find a way to support them, pay for the medical expences, or foot the college tuition bill for eight children. They will all be going at once. Eight in college at the same time. I admire Kate for her steadfast attitude and her get it done way of thinking. She has never cried that this is impossible or whoa is me. She has gotten it done. It seems that Jon was on board till he could afford his hair plugs and trainer. Raising children is the most stressfull and rewarding experience that you can ever have. Its just a shame that the focus of Jon, has become himself, and as every good parent knows that is not an option. The parent always comes at the end of the line. So Jon, grow up and take care of the children. They are the legacy you leave behind. Susan Satterfield Hastings Mi
These two people are NOT taking parenting seriously! This is a
typical form of child abuse; not physically, but, certainly mentally!
These adoralbe children are being used as pawns all for the mighty
buck! They should be ashamed! They had all these kids and hit the
jackpot! Makeovers, trips, surgery, hair transplants, etc. All for FREE!
Begin thinking of your family and not getting your pictures plastered
all over the planet and putting $$$$ ahead of what is best for your
children! PEOPLE, DO NOT watch this show, if we care about the
well-being of these children!
If they really cared about their children, they would stop the filming and concentrate on being a family. Maybe Kate could go to counseling for her abusive behavior toward her husband.
Good luck getting Kate to quit the show. The lure of money is too strong and she doesn't see the pull. She apparently doesn't get that she's exploiting her children. Those kids deserve better. They deserve to be kids not cute little objects to watch on T.V.
The parents need to re-connect. The fans of this "reality" show won't be happy. In real life, you don't get free stuff without your soul attached.
Yeah, good luck with that.
It hasn't been 'fair' or right for these kids to be placed on TV constantly for quite awhile now even before the marriage problems were revealed to the masses. The adults in charge – the parents and any adult involved in the show, the books, the advertising, etc. – should be ashamed. I don't know how they sleep at night.
They are just trying to support their family. How else are they going to pay for everything for their kids? Who is going to pay their bills? Plus we do not pick who we are born into, we don't pick what our parent's source of income is going to be. We later adapt to the situation we are in. I understand they are a so called product now "Jon & Kate plus 8", everybody wants a piece of them.
Personally I believe Jon & Kate married way to young and to have 8 kids before the age of 25 and 27 can be a little too much especially when most of us only know what we want and who we are as individuals in our 30's. Jon and Kate must ask themselves, why did they fall in love in the first place? Is it worth saving because its for them not for the kids (parents who stay together just for the sake of their children make it even worse for their kids, themselves and the people around them).
No fix yourselves stop usuing your children what a hot mess.
I think what the public is doing to them is horrible. They're two normal people that the world was curious about because she had 6kids. They are not exploiting their children. Everyones saying how the kids should get paid but does that mean that every kid on Americas Funniest Home Videos should get paid? I don't think so! I think everyone has completely blown up the story of what happened. How is this couple suppose to work on themselves and get through this when everyone keeps it going? Just because they're in the public eye doesn't mean we have to disect them in every way. Did you ever think of saying something nice about them like the fact that they have 8 kids and they love them unconditionally. And as for Kates sister-in-law and her husband....that's wrong of them to go on TV and talk about them like that. They should be there for Jon and Kate during this time not trying to throw them under the bus with disgusting alligations and lies! My thoughts on this are very strong. These people are not fake and they deserve some respect. I just think that we all need to let them handle this privately and there's no need for it to be in every magazine as a scandal. Everyone should be rooting for them, not trying to tear them down.
To answer the title; Yes. For the physical, emotional and mental wellbeing of their children, the show should end and they should either fix their marriage and work on being good parents– or at least divorce amicably and try to mend the damage already done to these children.
We're appalled at animal cruelty, we'd be sickened at dog fights on TV and yet, we let this show continue, with 8 kids lives being ruined in increments. We're party if we keep watching.
Yes, Kate is a malignant narcissist. Yes, Jon has been a doormat.
most of all, Yes, these kids are being destroyed in bits by every EP.
And YES! The show is now unbearable to watch, between the kids misery, Jon's resignation and Kate's pure nastiness seeping out.
Do we need a repeat of the Dionne Quints? Or is TLC waiting for 13 or so years down the road when they can have another show following the kids through D&A rehab, suicide attempts and prison?
The show has always exploited the children. Isn't the breakdown of a family hard enough on the children without everyone in the world knowing/watching it on TV. The conversations at the Twins school must be sooooo hard on Mady and Cara especially, children can be so cruel without meaning to be.
i feel that because they are obviously going through a tough front in their marriage being in front of a camera on national television is totally the wrong thing to do, money or no money.
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