Drama continues for Jon and Kate

These people are unbelievable! It is time to put their children first. Stop the filming, stop the book and speaking tours and spend time with and parent your kids like most people are happy to do with their own children!

Very depressing and not the same show. I watch because it is a lighthearted cute family show. I don't want to watch this family of 10 crumble for entertainment purposes so I won't continue to watch. I was a big fan of the show.

In a nutshell, get off the air, Kate, get OVER yourself, Jon, recognize your self worth and everyone put the life you have come to know behind you.

You need humbling, you need grounding.

Kate needs help for OCD, Jon needs help to remember that he IS someone with importance not just sperm. He had a life and it was taken. Kate needs to be reminded that she too would have NOTHING if she didn't opt to have medical miracles and assist in her pregnance. Come on you can't be humbled much MORE than THAT!

Those kids need to know that SOMETIMES you say no. And SOMETIMES mommy isn't right (although she pretends to be) Jon needs to know that Kate isn't the boss and to take back his 50% of the relationship.

Kate.. you are no barbie doll. But you can be very pretty if you soften up. Jon has been emasculated on TV. He needs to be reminded he is a MAN. An ATTRACTIVE man, and probably wanted it from YOU not some young gir.. but SHE is available, sex or not, to make him remeber that fact.

And all the dentists and designers won't make you a sex goddess.. just release the inner sweet, non compulsive, care free young woman you were.. and get rid of the stuck up, bossy bitchy crabby image you have created for the world.

Go back to grass roots... ALL OF YOU! Remember, takes 2 to make it or break it. NOT 8!

If Kate truly put her children first the show would be over. The Gosselins are not the first large family nor will be the last but from the first season Kate has sold out her children. When your husband tells you he does not like doing the show anymore you have to stop and think of what this is doing to your family. Fame, money and the big house has all gone to Kate's head and this is all about Kate, the children are being used and when they are not young and "cute" any longer then what? How will normal be for Kate then?

I watched the season premiere of Jon & Kate plus 8 last night. I have to say, I think that the show was a disappointment. Kate seems so bitter and media hungry...we have to remember that the show is a business and she know that all too well. IF either of them cheated on one another, it really is their business to work it out but it's almost like she's trying to win the media war. She also mentioned that the change was so swift and it was like he became someone different overnight but I think if you watched the show on a regualr basis and saw how harsh she was towards him, you won't be so surprised. She is a bit of a control freak and mainly bossed him around. I always thought she was a good mom but the in the last episode it seemed like she wasn't her normal mommy self. I hope she doesn't take the camera's to any couples therapy should they choose that route. It's all about her book deal and the money brought in from the show – it is apparent that he wants the camera's off and she does not.

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Kelly Naidu
Vancouver BC
Canada

What rotten parents! Obviously, this is just a scam to profit from having children...and exploiting them for the so-called "parents" own financial gain.

Shame on anyone that watches or supports this rampant profiteering.

Can we all say "Media Whores". These will do and say anything to stay in front of the camera and keep the small amount of celebrity status gained it. The money is too good to quit and how soon would they lose their fame? All reasons to keep the dog and pony show going.

In the mind of society, you can't win. No income with 14 children or money with 8. Whether there's a camera or not, raising 8 children is hard. And maybe if more people thought of their financial future like Jon & Kate have, this country might not be in the mess that it is.

i feel so sorry for Kate BUT she has belittled Jon so much and deflated his ego with criticizing and correcting him. When she said 'Am i responsible for the change? "I don't think so". I do.

Why on earth anybody gives a rat's ass about this show is beyond my scope of thought. Get a life people and leave Jon and Kate to theirs!

One can only hope that Jon and Kate will realize that they need marriage counseling and should go for their sakes, as well as their kids. As much as I have enjoyed the show, it was painful to watch this latest episode. I think they should take a break so they can focus on whats important... their family, not the show!

If they were really concerned for the well being of their children as they kept referring to in last nights premiere, then they should stop having the cameras film them during this difficult time. It clearly demonstrates they are totally into this for the fame and money. So sad.

It is time for the show to end and allow this family to come together. They have spent too much time monopolizing TV viewers with the phoniness of their lives. Any parent with young children knows that life is not about YOU but about raising well adjusted children who can live in this world after the cameras have stopped they know none of this. Now that every movement has been recorded what do you see these children focusing on. I find them to be ME children and I guess that is what sells but all children need the parents to love each other in action and deed.

ok, i did like the show in the beginning, the kids were cute and continue to be, the parents were describing life of a huge fam. what i don't like is that the money the parents are earning off the exploitation of the kids (which apparently is quite huge as they've moved into a $1 million plus home on 30-something acres) has seemed to really adversely affected Kate. the 'things' written about her in US magazine, if true, appears she's turned into a diva, which in my experience, usually means a total 'b". and supposedly she's non-stop touring a new book....so, come on..it's pretty sad. these children are turning into real Truman Shows.....i think the buck should stop ....

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Let them deal with their life.
It’s Their Life and They Are In It together.
Hats of to both of them Some people can’t handle 1 child. The nay sayers need to try a little kindeness (poppe****E) Gossip Mags should take a break on this issue, If Jon & Kate did do anything wrong we all need to back away and let them sort it out.

Does Pennsylvania have a law protecting children in Reality TV shows that model California laws?

This train wreck should be stopped for the sake of the children. Shame on TLC for being a party to this.

I would love to see their marriage work but I think John's too far gone. It might help if they stayed off the television and if Kate stopped her touring but I doubt it. Best of luck to them. I like them both.

I have watched the Jon and Kate Plus 8 show a few times. Sorry but I had to stop watching after that. It was so sad and painful to watch a woman treat her husband in such a terrible way. I don't think that anyone should cheat, but in all honesty, I understand why he did. I am sure the other woman was softer, kinder and much more loving then Kate could ever be.

It is sadder still because if they do divorce, this woman (Kate) will go after every cent that man has. She will not stop until she has destroyed him. I see these women all the time. Evil greedy and only after a man for what they can get out of him. Usually money and or status.

I wish them both luck but my thoughts and prayers are more with Jon and the kids. Maybe he should get custody since he is the one who can work and support them all.

BTW Jon if you are looking for a woman who can be nice... my e-mail is .... lol

Aloha and good luck. Sheena

I love watching the kids but nothing is worth this families health and happiness. I want them to be able to make the money for the kids though. God is the glue in that family and they will be fine.

May God bless them

I saw Jon on the new episode but where was Kate? The woman I saw was not the same one I've been seeing. The real Kate is not the perky, silly, easy going person she pretended to be on this episode. Jon was his usual self – what you see is what you get. TLC should sit her down and make her watch the show from the very first episode without interruption and see if she can see what everyone else does. They have not drastically changed, she has. Could she hear herself refering to "I, Me, by myself, etc. during the whold thing? Who is the one that's been home the most lately and why didn't we see Jon taking care of the kids ALONE while she was gone? Last thing, her claim that they would never have a Nanny...then she says that it hurt when the kids called her by the Babysitter's name...sounds like she's talking out of both sides of her face. If she thought that hurt, wait until she hears the kids call the Babysitter Mommy which will eventually happen.

The kids were adorable as usual, but the whole thing was uncomfortable to watch. However it's hard to feel sympathy for them-if it's so rough being in the spotlight, then stop doing the show- it seems they just don't want to give up the gravy train. Sorry guys, you can't have it both ways. They wanted fame & fortune, but it comes at a price- just look at any Hollywood marriage.

Jon & Kate need to stop having the cameras in their lives. It can't be good for them or their kids except as a source of income. They need to grow up. My feeling is that this current marital "drama" is an effort to increase their ratings and get more people watching their show since the kids - while still very cute - aren't babies any more and the show needed a new angle.

been there.....Kate has decided to focus 100% of her time on the kids and 0% on her husband. She has forgotten about her role as a wife....and when that happens, any husband will slowly drift away and not be interested. Their marriage is going down the exact road that my last marriage did.

Jon needs to get away from her and back into a healthy relationship.

Please take these people off the air and make sure the kids go through years of professional counseling. Having a mother like Kate, the children will need all the help they can get. The show has done nothing but highlight what a manipulative and selfish shrew she is.

I watched it and I was very saddended by what I saw. Marriage takes work and I think they need to get back to the basics and maybe even give up the show for the sake of their family. Kids are not oblivious they can see and sense what is going on... they can feel the stress. I am rooting for them to win this battle!

Jon and Kate have to make a living...
How else are they going to support a family of 10...
They found an opportunity and took advantage of it...
Now, they will be able to provide all the necessities of life--PLUS
afford an education....Kate saves for their future.
That's why she's staying on....
They ARE thinking of the kids...

Please stop filming, get back to basics and remember why you got married and had these beautiful kids in the first place. Stop while you still have a chance – the kids feel this pressure.

Kate is a control freak and Jon is a broken man. Too bad. Turn off the cameras and get real.

It is terribly sad to see such a loving couple and family have to go through this while the whole world is watching. Unfortunately, Jon and Kate have made this their "careers" and are receiving income to be able to live. However, I believe for the best interest of their children and their marriage, they are going to have to put this TLC career behind them and start a new chapter as just the Gosselins.

This was a sad show. I agree that I won't watch now if this is the direction it is heading. It was a nice family show. Now...sad and seems they have forgotten what is really important.

Kate is exactly where she wants to be. In the middle of all the attention given to her family, a D-List starlet, and she'll continue to drive this wreck as long as she can hold on to that spotlight. She already worn Jon down and she'll do it to the kids as long as she gets what she wants. Only when it's too late will she finally realize what she's doing to her family.

This used to be such a good show. I loved watching it with my kids. Now it has really gotten hard to watch. It is unfortunate what is happening to this family but when you try to make money off of your kids and you put your own greed first that is what happens, things fall apart. Kate needs to get off her high horse and stop pretending like she is perfect and John needs to admit his mistakes and ask for forgiveness. The first episode of this season was all about the ratings and not about the kids.

Kate's a media hog, just like that so called crazy loser Octo-mom...I say shut the whole twisted mess down. I can see it, now Dr. Phil can get in on the action.

I would have to say great job Kate for going through one episode not slapping Jon in the face.

As a person who has watched and enjoyed this show since Episode 1, I have to say that I think they should proactively decide that their 15 minutes of fame should be over now because it is now negatively impacting the lives of their children. They've made enough money to send each child to college, go on world travel, buy a mansion and cars, etc. Anything more, now, would just be wrong. I cried watching monday night at the sadness of seeing an entire family crumbling before the eyes of the world. I won't watch again.

I don't watch the show that much but it's apparent and he's even commented on it at times that he was happy with having just the twins, he didn't want more children. Not to say he doesn't love and adore the other kids but he didn't really want anymore, it's not the life/marriage that he visioned I'm sure. When you have children your life changes and the more children you have the harder it is to have any kind of life of your own until they are grown. To have a huge family you both have to be on the same page, like that Table for 12 couple, they seem like they both enjoy the chaos. Imagine every day all day it's about the kids, same routine day in day out.. no adult time.. and there's cameras on you so better keep your cool and be super parent. He's one of the more involved fathers I've seen. Perhaps it's because she's on him all the time, but unfortunatly most men seem to need that. With 8 children someone has got to organize things and keep everyone in order. I agree Kate takes it to the extreme, but I can't imagine these tendencies came out of the blue. Anyway, all you parents out there can relate that have have probably had little to no "alone" time, and have probably grown apart. It is totally sad to see that happen. The love was there, maybe some therapy, no more book tours and such, and a nice vacation for two might rekindle what they once had.

She needs to support all those kids somehow. Kate is doing what is best for the kids. Jon is a big baby who is whining about how tough his life is... PLEASE!!! He is driving a new car, has a huge tractor and all they toys he wants. We are suppose to feel bad for him.. There is no excuse for the betrayal of his family!!!

What a disgrace!!! These two parents should be ashamed of themselves. Very negative people and not good re model for their kids or being parents.

I will not watch the show because of them and I really don't care. Who wants to watch an hour negativity!!!!

If anyone needed proof as to why they do this show- Jon arrived at the party in some kind of sportscar, they now own a $1 million house, witness Kate's manicures, highlights, and clothing- the list goes on. The way she treats Jon is sickening and he deserves someone who treats him like a human being. She has no idea how to talk to people, as evidenced by her bellowing to five-year olds at the party: "Helloooo children!! Would you like some cake!!!"

The show was a couple's therapy session and we viewers were the therapist. I had never seen such a lopsided relationship. Kate never appologized for anything. I don't think Jon deserves what he is getting from her. Kate played the victim role when she was organizing the party. Oh please comon! So you were with the kids yourself! Jon does that all the time while you are trying to be a high roller mom! Seriously! I think she has to be honest with herself.. she is not thinking about her kids, she is not thinking about her marriage! All she cares about is a career that has bloomed as a result of her having too many kids and she just can't let go anymore or think straight! She looks delusional! I would totally get rid of her!! She is not entertaining at all. She just seems like a power hungry, money hungry, mean, angry, b*&%$. Being a mom is a gift, she is forgetting that. I would just have a show about Jon and the kids. That way at least we will see some good people on T.V. rather than "Mine! all Mine!" type people.

Kate, frankly, needs to get over herself. If she didnt have this TV show, she'd be some old hausfrau with a gut raising her brood in anonimity. I feel for John, as ive watched this guy get consistantly beaten down by this broad, no wonder he "allegedly" cheated on her. If they do split, I hope he gets total custody of his kids and a woman who treats him right...

Octomom put a lot of pressure on the producers of this train wreck by being a bigger train wreck!! If Octomom did indeed get a show, who would ever watch john and kate again?? How do you stop that from happening?? Write a better script. This show is more fake than the WWE and the kardashians. There is no reality in this at all.

PeaceMaker- AMEN!

I agree with jennifer. The cost of caring for one child today is quite expensive – now times that by 8! And not just food, clothes, etc. – doctor and dentist visits as well. Also, just think how much college will be by the time the kids go – as a parent the thought of not being able to provide for your kids is quite scary. It's crazy to think they wanted to exploit their kids from the beginning. Tthey were offered an opportunity to help them with the costs of raising a large family and they took it.
I agree that Kate and Jon need couseling and Kate does need to lighten up and stop worrying about the messes and focus more on the "moments" as life is too short, but people who have no idea how tough it is to raise such a large family need to cut them some slack.
Good luck to them.

My guess is that this is all a lousy publicity stunt to boost ratings and you're all along for the ride, not me, I've jumped ship with this group. How many more seasons can you keep watching them raise their kids? Need to up the ante at some point. The sad part is that they've sold their kids out for continuing this charade. The cameras need to go away and Jon and Kate need to figure it out like the rest of us. They aren't the first family to be saddled with raising 8 kids.

It seems everyone wants to blame Kate, she is a mom with lots of children, she needs to be bossy and controlling or things won't get done, I can relate to her, but also Jon needs to stop acting like one of the kids, always needing attention, instead of being at bars he needs to be helping raise the kids, she did not have them alone. If you want the fame, then get your act together. Jon and Kate you send you were in these together, prove it.

First of all, who would waste their time watching a show about strangers? Who the heck cares about Jon, Kate and their family? Who are they to me? If people focused on their own families, and their own priorities, we'd stop feeding $75,000 per episode salaries to these no talent people who should foot the bill for having these children themselves. I couldn't imagine in a million years, wasting my time or energy on reality shows which are all degrading and nonsensical anyway. People have lost focus on what's important. How shallow we've all become. Wake up people. Start spending time with your children and your spouses and build and nuture that life with them because life is much too short to live with regrets. Stop giving these non-deserving reality shows your attention.

I used to watch the show but now it's pathetic. Grow up you two selfish, spoiled, out of touch adults. YOUR kids are the reason for the show not how you both went off the deep end due to fame and its spoils. Maybe now you'll realize the cost of exploiting your family life for the almighty dollar. Your children deserve two loving parents so please, get counseling, pray, take a second honeymoon WITHOUT the cameras or the kids, just do whatever you have to do to get back together. Realize how fortunate you are to have each other and 8 healthy children to raise. Turn off the cameras, put away the books, and get on with your family. YOU both brought them into this world, now follow through and give them what THEY need and deserve from you.

I think it is a really sad state of affairs. I feel for the children because life as they knew it will be gone forever. their lives will change drastically. It would be great if both Jon and Kate could get help with their issues and continue to be a family. As unrealistic as that sounds maybe a miracle will happen.

Oh boy.
I wonder when Mady will begin writing the Mommie Dearest book?

Anyone who watched last season's finale saw that the show has become more of a strain on Jon than the enjoyment it once was...sure two people changed very swiftly as Kate says...look at who is now wearing designer duds and acting like a "celebrity" – she is. In the new season opener, I didn't hear her say 'this is what WE envisioned for us" I heard her say "this isn't what I invisioned for us". From an observers stand point it seems like Kate has let the money and fame go to her head and it's changed her....rather than see it's hurting her marriage she's calling it a business and saying it's what they agreed to do...I feel sorry for Jon, he just looks drained and looks like a man who wants his old life back..she on the other hand seems to not miss the old life and instead wants more of what there may be to cash in on. I'd respect them more if she were to stop the books, appearances and media attention grabbing non sense and go back to being a nurse or whatever she was before all of this and let the viewers see what their life would be like should they give it all up (the perks) and go back to being REAL and working on raising 8 kids! This isn't the show it used to be, it's turned into the Kate Diva Hour. Very sad

I would just like to say that I am one of 8 children and I know the difficult time my parents had trying to support all 8 of us for 18 years! I think that what Kate is doing by having her family on the show is looking out for the kids' future! I think it is a real shame in this country that people are so judgemental of other people. We need to learn to mind our own businessl I think Kate & Jon do a very good job of raising 8 kids, believe me it is no easy task! I wish the very best for all of them, and God Bless them all!

I have watched all the seasons and yes Kate thinks everything has to be perfect and she is so mean to John. You never hear them say i love you to each other or be romantic, it is no relationship. Last night when one of the sextuplets went and said "thank you mommy for my party," she ignored him until one of the other parents said something.They need to stop the show and get help because the only people they are hurting are their children and they don't think of that.

To Jennifer:
You really think that they are thinking of their kids when they started this TV show?? Maybe in the very beginning, but now, it's gotten too big and to their heads! They've exploited them! They chose fame over their children and to me, that's disgusting! It wouldn't surprise me one bit if these children turn out to be as "media hungry" as their parents are when they grow up...I don't understand why families think it's so important to choose fame over their marriage. The most important aspects in a marriage and family is being humble, trusting, hardworking and honesty. Reality shows do not work! It's only to get viewers and money and it's fake! TLC and other reality shows don't care about their clients. Money talks. And I bet that family can't stop taping this show because of contract negotiations, etc. You think they wish they did this now, now that it's broken them up?

I think it is time to call it quits with the show, it is ruining their lives now. It is time to do some damage control and try to pick up of the pieces that are left of their family. These kids are gonna be hurt by hearing awful accusations about their mom and dad. Jon and Kate should realize this and put them first , not their income.

Kate needs to stop bullying her husband. Jon needs to wake up and not take the abuse. They are both at fault for their troubles. They have let fame go to their heads. Your show is over. I speak from experience, you don't want a divorce. It will scar your children forever no matter who is at fault (both of you). The children will always think they caused it. Get off the pot, and start being parents. You are no longer No. 1 in the family – - – your children are No 1. I really hope you succeed for your children. Just know this, people are going to stop watching your show very soon, so it is time to get busy and do the right thing.

I love watching the show w/Jon, Kate & the children-I find both Jon & Kate-to be sarcastic-and I believe they truly do love their children. Remember, Kate is a nurse-and she is rather OCD-but I would rather her be that way-than for her to be like OCTMOM-who is unorganized , disengaging & pretentious. I do not believe that Jon & Kate are on the outs-it is just for ratings!!!! I wish them the best– GO JON & KATE + 8

15 minutes of fame comes with the cost of public scruitiny and harrasement – by now everyone should know this!!

Kate – your job is not to travel promoting your "brand" (a.k.a children) it is to be a mom first and foremost. Stop the madness and be a parent! Stop emaculating your husband and seek some councling for the whole family.

Jon – grow up you have 8 kids and don't get to say you don't want to do this anymore. If you feel you've lost your self worth because your the stay home dad – go back to work – the kids are school aged now and you can easily afford a babysitter.

Get professional marital counciling and turn off the damn cameras, your ratings may be high but we are all only watching for the train wreck that is coming!!!

I don't watch the show, so I'm making this observation based solely on the comments I'm reading here, and have read elsewhere. It seems to me that if Jon were acting the way Kate is, and Kate were acting the way Jon is, Jon would be praised for doing whatever it took to provide for his family, no matter the stress it caused him, and Kate would be denigrated for being a whiner and a slut, and for making Jon's life miserable.

They are doing the show for the sake of the kids in order to be able to afford to raise them. How do they think they will do that if the ratings drop and the show folds? The kids...the kids...the kids...that's the important thing. Parenting is difficult but the kids are the priority, no matter how unsatifying you think your life is. Somebody needs to be thinking of what to do next, because if this continues to be painful to watch, people will stop. The kids are not old enough to understand the full weight of what is happening, but it won't be long.

I hope they take the show off the air. Kate has been bat from day one. The kids are making them rich and its time they have a normal life.

Kate is a very insincere woman. She doesnt get it. But she will. Once her marriage is over, and the show gone, she will continue to pimp out her children.

Please remember that no matter what the media says, what the show scripts and even what these 2 say – NO ONE knows for certain what is going on in that house, in their lives, in their hearts. I'm not taking sides in this, except for the side of the children.

Jon / Kate / TLC: pull the plug on this show NOW. It is not doing anyone any good. The only ones who'll be hurt in the end are the children. They need a normal life, not money and 'things'. Please do what is best for the children. Give them their innocence and childhood back!!!

The show just confirmed that Kate is all about herself, even though she tried to act like the poor victim.

If you watch previous versions of the show, she loved to laugh and play with the babies. Now that they are older, she has little use for them and shoos them away when they come around her. She should be ashamed of herself.

Kate, it's time you took a good long, honest look in the mirror. Better yet, view your shows from 3 years ago compared to this past season. If you likes what you see, then John has every right to leave you!

I watched the show one time and that was enough for me. Kate is sooo into herself and Jon is left hanging. I have seen her on several interviews and she is the first to point the finger at Jon because she thinks she is so perfect. The kids need a normal life with parents that not only love them but love each other, and it's so plain to see Kate only loves herself. The higher ups should cancel this show for the sake of the kids and parents. There are plenty of people out there that have eight kids with no help at all and they manage.

Tragic that Jon and Kate didn't make their marriage a priority. Their beautiful family started with the TWO of them and although they need to focus on their children, ALL parents need to also focus on each other and the relationship. Whatever is going on between my husband and I we try our hardest to deal with it privately and remain respectful with one another in front of our kids. Moms AND DADS need a pat on the back, appreciation for what they do, they need to be shown love and respect. We never outgrow that need.

They should take a break from the show – get some perspective and some therapy. It is popular enough that TLC would be wise to let them take a hiatus. Another concern is that if the papparazzi is already making money off the kids, they will never lose that blood lust. Has Kate really thought of what their lives will be like? Has she thought through the papparazzi hanging out on the kids' college campuses trying to catch them getting drunk for the first time or catch them with a love interest? Car chases? Terrifying.

How can you not pull for them? There is always hope, forgiveness and redemption.

Used to be a cute show – now it's a train wreck in slow motion. 8 kids hang in the balance – we don't watch the show anymore. Can't watch a marriage and family disintegrate on TV. TLC should be ashamed of themselves regardless of the ratings.

PEOPLE this is a television show!!!!!....this is NOT a family..it is flagrant exploitation. I had 7 children..with no artificial means...I raised the last 6 by MYSELF..there was no t.v. producers knocking on my door to docudrama our lives. JON and KATE are doing exactly what their producers are TELLING THEM TO DO....for.....here it comes.....MONEY!!! the ratings were dropping...and you can only get so much milage out of recurring temper tantrums and spilled milk so something had to be done to add some DRAMA and you all are eating it all up with a spoon.....see it for what it is...The Brady Bunch on steroids.

This is truly the saddest, most pathetic attempt for publicity. Its not the first time nor will it be the last time we see Parents exploit their children for fame and fortune. Its being done in the music and film industry as we speak, and its been done time after time over many years. If they hadn't had these beautiful children, the world wouldn't give a rat's ass about John and Kate. I think he heas been emasculated (boo hoo) but he let it happen over the years, because what he first thought was admiring within Kate has now turned into the "Ugly" being you see before you. He can only change his reaction to her constant verbal attacks. As they say, "Man Up". Point Blank. Yes the world has given him the sympathy vote, but lets not overdo it. You only let happen what you continually allow someone to do to you. Kate used to be this, used to be that. But she is now a total contolling, bitchy, bitter and aggressive person with no regards to her husband's feelings. She's always the victim. Because she had 8 kids gives her the right to judge and criticize him at the drop of a hat? No! She needs to accept the fact that her family needs to come first. He obviously loves her but even that's not enough anymore. He made bad choices, but he's only human. She needs a serious Reality check......and I don't mean what the network is paying them for the show. Shame on both of them for letting the children be exposed to this ridiculous circus they've created. Turn the cameras off now! The network should be ashamed of themselves for helping this family bury themselves in a deeper hole of despair. The cameras rolling will only be the downfall and not the solution.

Shame on TLC for encouraging and following this "drama" unfold. It's a fact that TLC's numbers have dropped over the past few years and this event has caused their numbers to sky rocket. So of course they are enjoying the ride more than anyone!

For all we know, it was TLC employees who leaked the picture to the media. Very sad that the cable show that attributed to their success has now influenced and/or caused their downward spiral.

Am I the only one out there who sees it this way???

You people are amazing, I'm just curious who has given you the right to judge these people? Just because they are on TV does not mean that they are any less individuals than you, shut up and find something productive to do with your own lives.

I think there was the right balance of the kids and Jon and Kate, but I also think this show has run its course. Cute as the kids are, they are growing up, developing their own personalities, and it will become harder and harder to keep the topic of the show confined to the kids as a group. The episodes will become boring if we have to hear each sextuplet's point of view on everything from now on, and it will be simply painful to listen to them if more of them develop a personality like their unlikeable sister, Maddie.

It has been hard enough watching Kate kick Jon around for the last few years and now in the season opener we have to watch the boys kicking and fighting with each other too? Sure that's what kids do, but it's not entertaining.

Everyone can keep up with what is happening with the Gosslins in the tabloids from now on. We don't need to see it on TV and their kids don't need to go through it on TV.

Show's ratings drop... cancellation is imminent, and when it goes, so goes the luxury lifestyle Kate has grown accustomed to.

ZOMGZ! Trouble in Paradise! Thus, the manufactured crises of marital problems.

Ratings explode, and all is well in Kate-land.

Please, America, stop feeding these people and just turn the channel. Just let them live the life they CHOSE for themselves, all the way. Without the bodyguards, the perks, and all the other things that this family gets for free that the rest of us have to pay for.

Turn the channel... and the network will notice. Keep it turned away... and Kate will drop back into obscurity where she belongs, Jon can get a life and sense of self-worth again, and the rest of us will no longer be subjected to this kind of circus freak show.

I find it sad how people like "Jan" seem to place the heavy blame on Kate. Apparently, it is her fault Jon allegedly cheated and her being strong has stripped him of his manhood. According to Jan, his only fault is not realizing his self worth and being the MAN. I think both parties have made mistakes and are responsible for the current situation, whatever that really is, and placing blame on Kate and Kate alone is a prime example of a major societal problem.

Money has gotten to their heads! they were a normal family when it started, Kate wore "normal" clothes, Jon worked, and now look at them! Kate dresses in designer clothes, nails all manicured, makeup on, living in a mansion of a home and not having to have a "real" job that requires leaving kids at daycares and struggling like we all do in real life. they get most things for free now, and I think all of us normal working class people with kids cant relate anymore to them! they are celebrities now, we just cant relate anymore. its really sad! they should end the show and work on the marriage!!!!!! I think its all a publicity stunt. Kate is pathetic. her job is to travel for work, I think not! her job should be wife and mother, who cares about some dumb book! Ive seen it and its pathetic too!

After watching last night, it was abundantly clear to all that they need to step back and re-evaluate their priorities. Yes, being on a hit show is wonderful but when is enough enough? When you become single parents? When your children start behaving poorly and lashing out because they can't focus their feelings? Granted, they have received alot of things because of the show – but how much is too much? From the sounds of it most of the extended family has either been alienated or had a falling out. What personal and familial expense must be incurred to see that they only have each other?

JON, I WANT TO PARTY WITH YOU BABY DOLL! WINK WINK

I've got better things to do.......

Get off the air and focus on your family, Gosselins! It's very apparent they have completely lost their focus on family and are riding the wave of fame which, so often, accompanies a popular show like theirs.

Jon and Kate, the popularity of your TV show is only temporary. Your family, however, is forever. Take care of your kidsand give them the privacy and NORMALCy they need. Stop whoring yourselves to the network and move on ....

WITH A REAL LIFE.

If you recall, Jon & Kate got married pretty young; I think he was only like 23. She admittedly insisted on having kids right away-hence the twins. Then she once again, rushed into having more-hence the 6. Having gone thru many fertility procedures, without going into lengthy details, I personally think that she ignored doctor's advice during this procedure and that's how she ended up pregnant with 6 (initially 7). Again, Kate doing exactly what she wanted to do, regardless of how Jon feels. Yes, he finally caved in (which is his fault) but rushing and "browbeating" a spouse to accepting more kids or to marry you is NOT a good thing for a marriage. She has always come across to me a controlling, rather isolated, and not very good with relationships- I mean look, neither one of them seem ("seem" b/c I don't know for sure) to really have any lasting close, family relationships, much less friends. If she doesn't get some "roundness" to her "edges", I think that when she's old, she will only have her kids and grandkids and that all her "happiness" will depend on them and their being around her etc. Now having them is a wonderful thing but your life cannot be fulfilled nor can your happiness solely be based upon other people. It has to come from within and you should live with balance in all things. Bottom line, I don't see her as being a happy person unless she makes some big changes. Jon married young, too young I think, had kids right away, probably didn't really know Kate (and vice-versa) and is feeling totally overwhelmed. Plus, based upon what I've seen, they probably just are not a good match. Had they not rushed marriage and then so many kids, they could have worked on this beforehand. Who knows- they may have never gotten married! Anyway, it is extremely hard to work on your marriage under a (self-imposed) media spotlight, plus with 8 kids to care for. Now they need to make a decision about what is really important- their marriage, which includes the well-being and stability of these 8 innocent kids that they chose to bring into the world- or their own personal interests and finances. I'm convinced it's possible for them to still earn a decent living without the constant cameras. BUT it's up to them to decide what they want. I certainly don't excuse Jon's cheating or whatever he's doing. Plus his partying, etc. are signs of his immaturity and a cry for help/change. It does seem that now it's all about the cameras and money. I pray that the kids do have or obtain some sense of normalcy and stability. Kate cannot have it both ways- in my opinion, they need to concentrate on their marriage and family (IN PRIVATE) b/c that should be the priority.

Some people will do anything to be in the spotlight. I haven't seen the first episode nor do I intend to.

I can't imagine what they are going through and the pressure they are both under. Let's give them all a break and let them work this out. This is a true reality show now. They are letting us see the very difficult side of being a "celebrity" and letting cameras follow their every move. I don't think I could handle what they're going through – just having the eight kids – yikes – that would send me screaming. I have two kids and I can't imagine having twins, let alone sextuplets.

I hope that they can work through this, but it seems there is so much hurt. It will take a miracle to work through it. Can they set aside their differences and work together on their marriage? Who knows – having 8 kids running around in the middle of all of it has got to be so difficult. Whew! I'm glad it's not me – that's for sure!!

They could make this all go away by just turning the cameras off. But money obviously means more to Kate then the well-being of her family.

The executives at TLC should be ashamed of themselves for continuing and enabling the destruction of this family. Sure, the family is getting paid well for allowing their mother to exploit her children. The children have no say in the matter but are just collateral damage due to greedy and egotistical parents. If Jon truly wanted to stop filming, then it would happen. Be a man and take a stand. TLC should see what is happening to this family and turn off the cameras regardless of Jon and Kate want. This family needs time to heal and sort itself out.

its all a publicity stunt because the show is stale. i think the world agrees there is nothing new about a spineless husbund and an overbearing, obnoxious wife or a house full of kids. babies are cute, 5 yr olds arent – so the producers have to spice it up somehow to keep the money rolling in. wave the magic drama wand and voila! ratings!
every one of you suckers fell for it and shame on you. shame on those vile gosselins for stealing every precious private moment from those children and selling it like pimps for their own monitary gain. tv is a business plain and simple. the advertisers, the channel, the participants of the reality show etc......... THIS IS HOW THE GOSSELINS MAKE THEIR LIVING, people. its all a dog and pony show at the expense of the kids innocence.
drink it in, cry with them and celebrate potty training but dont buy into it.

now, if i am wrong and even one moment of that show or those people is actually genuine – then i say jon & kate are getting what they deserve. misery.

TLC channel should give them a break for a year. Let the fans vote to keep seanon 5 on of postpone the season for a year so they can work out thier problems. After the year, start a new season, with them together or divorsed and a season with tension can be avoided. I think alot of people will return to see how they did.

Jon, get job and find purpose in your life again. If that's with Kate, OK, if it is not, that's OK too. Get off camera. You don't enjoy it and its making you miserable. You are just not cut out to be a house husband. There is no shame in that. It's not about how much you love your kids, it's just not what you are good at.

Kate, you are determined to pursue your dream of being a author / TV personality. You are no longer raising a family or even being a wife. I saw this not to judge you or condemn your actions, but to point out reality. everyone has to find thier niche. Just don't expect everyone to agree with you or try to make others, like Jon fit in the same niche.

Finally hire a good nanny to raise the kids. They deserve better then either of you are providing.

What I find funny, is that everyone also conveniently forgets that Kate did it on her own long before Jon quit his job. He keeps playing the, "I quit my job, I did this..."

If anyone was paying any attention to their answers during the latest episode, you'll notice that she was SPECIFIC about what she felt, and how she saw the entire thing. While he gave generic, cliched responses to the questions he was asked. He didn't respond directly to any question. He evaded the questions.

I do feel she has been harsh on him, but as a parent, I see why. Most of the time Jon was disconnected, and left Kate to handle the big issues. Who was it taking them to all of their appointments? Most men are more than happy to blame the wife, rather than their own selfish selves. This may come as a shock to most of the men commenting here, but you have to give up MUCH of what you wanted, when you have kids. Your life is not your own, ever again, until they're out on their own. THIS. IS. IT. Get over it, that's what mom's do, and have been doing for generations.

Whether or not he wanted the other set of multiples is irrelevant. Why, if he didn't want them, did he stay with her? If this was truly about his poor esteem, he would have left them before they had the big money. Funny how she's no longer good enough for him, after he has more money.

Also, how the hell do people expect a women to behave civilly and balanced, when she's been busting her ass, and then her husband turns this, "OH, I'M NOT GETTING ANY 'ME' TIME!"

Trust me, if he was really there for the kids, he wouldn't have ranked out at the last minute when it came time to buy their decorations, since they'd already agreed to go together.

She seemed angry, bitter, and above all, disappointed. He seemed numb, bitter, and entitled.

I used to watch this show because I thought the kids were cute and it was interesting to see how a family this large dealt with life on a daily basis. I did not sign up to watch a family fall apart in front of America. Watching it is basically a vote to keep this poor family on the air, and I for one, am going to stop watching. Watching these two parade their crumbling marriage in front of all our eyes is de-pressing. Family comes first; if Jon and especially, Kate, truly believe this, than this show has got to hit the can and fast. Kate needs to allow Jon to make some of his own choices and have some power over his own life. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out why he made poor choices recently - at least they were choices he could make outside of Kate's control! marriage in front of all our eyes.

They need to stop pimping their family for the money and focus on their kids and their marriage.Kate needs to stop being the self centered, OCD, person she is and be a MOM.Jon needs to grow some self respect and be a DAD...OFF THE AIR. It is not amusing just flat out pathetic and sad.

Pretty clear that jon and kate are heading in the wrong direction. They need help to correct the issues they are faced with – they need to do this without the cameras. I don't want to watch problems, I miss seeing the cute kids!

It seems that everyone is placing blame on Kate. Yes, she seems very controlling and bossy. But she has 8 kids! 6 kids are all the same age! She has to be controlling and bossy to have any kind of sanity.

To me, Jon has always left the raising of all 8 kids to Kate. So he let her become what she is today. He didn't seem to step in and help her out until she requested the help (which now, it seems she has to demand his help). He seems lazy and pathetic. Kate is the get-it-done type. Of course she is going to be a "b". Regardless, she is going to stand up for herself, and all 8 kids – with or without Jon. Jon needs to be a man and understand that he and Kate are BOTH responsible for turning things around. Kate can't do everything – and shouldn't do everything.

Number 1 thing to always remember.

The best way to love your children is to show them you love each other.
Take some time away from the camera, get counseling. Learn how to talk to each other again. Nothing is more important than your family. Don't buy into all the hype. If the producers/ directors have hearts they will find a way to take this pressure off you, for now. Get away from the camera....

I agree with Jennifer. Jon and Kate have to make a living and having the cameras in their lives has supported their family. They are thinking about the children! The show has allowed them to provide for the kids. They are able to be stay at home parents and earn a living too! Who wouldn't want that? The children have been able to go and do things they would not have had the opportunity to do. I think the kids love the camera people and having them there! As far as the marriage, Kate was right about parents of multiples having a high divorce rate, but I'm hoping they can work things out. They are both christians and I know that their church family will not abandon them. They are good parents and love the children dearly. Kate is a good mother, and Jon is a good father. I will continue watching the show. Thanks to them, I enjoy being "invited" into their lives every week to watch their beautiful children.

Pure and simple...until you are the one(s) in the situation, chose not to jugde REGARDLESS of past actions, choices and words. No one is perfect. Once in a situation like this, NO ONE can know how they would act or react. There are so many different levels of grief, madness, disappointment, sympathy etc to go through individually and together as a family. Let them do it on their own, without all your comments and judgement. Just because Kate choses to wear her 'characteristics" on her sleeve and John does not, doesn't make her the instigator. And just because John didn't , doesn't mean we should automatically all feel sorry for him. The sitatuation could be looked at from so many different angles. People make their personal choices and unfortunately pay for them in the end. Let them work it out on their own....give them the space they need and deserve and keep YOUR poor choice of dictation and words to yourself. Otherwise, you are no better than the people you are dictating and 'bashing' in the end.

Kate has gotten used to the money and she is not going to let it go. It's a shame that her kids and her marriage will suffer because of her greed. Jon has said many times that he doesn't want to continue filming but Kate always has the last word.

I find it odd that you never see any of their extended family members on the show or they rarely discuss them. I would say they have seen Kate for what she really is long before the world has and have chosen to stay away. I used to watch the show on occasion, but felt so bad for Jon that I couldn't continue. How embarrasing to be talked to like that on national tv. One of these days, when the kids are older and they can watch these episodes, how do you think they'll feel about their mom talking to their dad that way? Kate needs to be put in her place. I don't understand how anyone can be of fan of her. She is lapping up the media attention and it's disgusting.

In the episode where the little kids came home from the sitters house with gum and Kate called the sitter and chewed her out was horrible. That woman just watched after your 8 kids while you did some meaningless shopping or teeth whitening or whatever and you chewed her out for giving the kids a piece of gum?? Unbelievable.

I used to be a big fan of the show, I for one never liked Kate from the beginning she always spoke down to Jon as though he was on of the children. In the season 4 finally Jon said that he no longer wanted to do the show and wanted the cameras out of their lives; Kate responded that she loved what she was doing and that they would continue. That right there shows you the center of their problems. Jon is not allowed to socialize with anyone outside of the Kate and the 8 kids which is difficult. Yes when you get married and have children you need to spend time with them, but you also need to do things for yourself or else you begin to resent your family.

If TLC really cared they would cancel the show and let them deal with their issues in private.

I think the saddest part of the premiere is that you can tell that Jon loves and misses his kids and is torn about what this is doing to them, while Kate is only concerned about herself.

I hope they works things out but I really think that Kate needs a reality check.

One day the cameras will go away and the children will grow up and what will she have in the end.

For those who would like to see the show end...STOP WATCHING! If the ratings fall far enough, it will be cancelled. But please don't continue watching it, yet also talk about how scandalous it is, how can they do that to their kids, etc.

I agree with a lot of the posters on here. I watch(ed) this show because it was light hearted and yes kate got/gets on her husband a lot but it always seemed in a ( just for the camera) type of way... I am not interested in watching a show about a family trying to hold it together. Ahile watching the primiere it seemed like i was intruding.... i won't be watching again... its no longer a restpit from the drama in my own life.. so whats the point.

Kate is so full of herself. She's not doing it for the kids, she's doing it for the $. Get real, she hated the cameras and fans first, then when the $ started rolling in she changed her view and perspective of the situation. She always belittled Jon its just gotten worse and more mean spirited. If they were really living the christian faith, then where is the "FAMILY"? This show was suppose to be about the family. I knew something like this would happen. People change when they start having $ control their views on things and people. Kate made sure to get everything from TLC–trips, clothes, publicity, books writing opportunities, etc. Jon was never allowed to do anything. The show should be called 'Kate plus 8 who thinks she's great!' -get for real. Kate is a real ugly person through and through. She tried portraying herself as a nice, loving, mother and all she does is act the part. Get over yourself Kate and start being a wife and a good mother.

TLC I know you like this because of its ratings, but honestly, get them off the air and get them into some counseling for the children's sake. Their marriage could be salvaged if they honestly tried, not acted like they tried.

To have these people air their marital troubles in front of the cameras at the start of Season Five, is terrible. Goes to show, that the money is just too good and has taken hold particularly of her.. Jon has finally decided enough is enough. For that woman to feel blameless in all of this, is unbelievable. She has made him look like a fool again and again.

I can't believe how hard people are on Kate. Yes she is controlling and over organized but she is raising eight children. Who knows what goes on behind the scenes maybe Jon needs to be pushed a little to get him motivated to help. Maybe she acted that way because Jon was already pulling back and it made her bad side come out even more. No one has the right to judge either of these people. The children are obviously well adjusted and happy, you can tell by watching them. They are really sweet children and if Jon & Kate were letting any of the filming or whats going on between them affect the children it would show and it doesn't. As for Kate giving up the filming, if she and Jon split she needs this job now to raise eight children it won't be cheap. The fact is they are both great parents and it shows regardless of what is going on between them. If the media focused more on the children instead of the parents it would eleviate the stress between them.
As for Kate's brother and Aunt Jodi, what a joke. If they weren't so interested in money they wouldn't have voiced there opinion on national TV. I feel that they were just put out that they couldn't cash in and are jealous of Jon & Kate's success. To state that Kate was having an affair without any proof was in poor taste and just showed their true colors.
I will continue to watch the show because I really love watching the interaction between the kids. They are well adjusted and a pleasure to watch. I hope that the media gives Jon & Kate the space they need to repair the damage to their marriage. Marriage is hard enough without the presure of eight kids and the world judging them. Yes, they have made alot of money but raising that many kids they need to and I am happy for their success. People need to step back and quit judging!

There are kids on this show?????

i am not one to judge because i am not in their shoes and i hope i am never in that situation, BUT i have to say that #1, jon has denied his affair and who are we to know that he truly did cheat. #2, if people are to believe the tabloid reports then don't forget KATE was accused of cheating by them as well. so why is everyone blasting jon for his alleged affair when kate was also accused?? i am not saying it was right for jon to cheat (if he even did) but my point is kate was also accused and no one seems to be seeing that and all people are doing is talking crap about and his "infidelity" they need to stop doing the show and concentrate on their marriage and children. i'm sure they've made more than enough money now...

If you don't take this "situation" off the air, you will be divorced. Try working on your marriage and relationship – which ultimately is more important then a TV show (one would hope)

This is a family. Both Jon and Kate have made a choice and a decision and now they must live with their decisions. Jon and Kate cannot just opt out of their contracts that they have signed.

I watched a rerun the other night. The love that this couples has for each other was very obvious. Jon had said that he knows what Kate does everyday at home with the children. The amount of time, talent, and energy that she spends on their children and he said he would never want to do that. He respects what stay-at-home parents do, and again, he said he wasn't cut out to do that. So if he feels this way, why did he decided two years ago to quit his job and stay-at-home?

The little ones will be in school this year. It would be wonderful if in September, Jon would go back to his career. It is obvious he is not happy at being at home and good for him for recognizing his strengths and weaknesses.

Love is a choice. Marriage is not always a happy go lucky feeling type of time. It has its ups and downs. Again, love is a choice.

I love the show Jon and Kate plus 8 but I feel it is time to put the kids and family first and stop filming the show. It may have started out as a way to document the kids lives but has gotten out of hand with all the publicity and money that is involved. Kate and Jon really need to think about how it is affect the kids lives and the publicity is not good for them.

We used to watch this show as a family – with our kids 12,9, and 6. With this last episode we had to turn off the TV. It is no longer a "family" show.

I really like Kate and thought Jon was acting like a child. It's no wonder Kate needs to "direct" him. He appears to have "duh" written on his forehead. I think the overall situation is extremely sad, but for all of you complaining about their behavior, stop watching the show!

The word 'attention whores' comes to mind.

They're pimping out their kids to make a living. It's disgusting.

I am always amazed at how easy it is for society to judge and attack others. The common thread by those doing the attacking is that this couple is somehow in the wrong by continuing to do the show when they have the issues they are having. The show did not necessarily create the issues (though fame and a little money does certainly bring about added temptations) and stopping the show won't fix any of the problems – though it might add some; specifically financial. This couple is doing what they think is the right thing – I would think people would simply watch and enjoy or not watch but to constantly attack so viciously because they made a choice other than what they would have made is just mean... Remember, there are no right or wrong choices, just different choices with different consequences and outcomes. I guarantee that Jon and Kate want the best for themselves and their families so they will try and make the best decisions for them – not for you. Don't attack them for that.

I just want to know where she came up with that freaky hairdo – It is so horrible it is actually distracting from anything going on

Jon and Kate...there are people pulling for you both. Re-focus on each other and your kids. Communicate...take a vacation for the two of you. You both have 8 reasons to work on your marriage. America loves your family and thank you for sharing your lives with America but now is the time to re-priortize what is most important in your lives and that is your family not America.

AFter watching their first interview together since the problems arose it was apparent to me that Kate is only in it for the money, but puts it out there like she's doing it for her children's future. BS! She's in it for the publicity and it's obvious. She stated that 'she's there when it's time to work, when the cameras are rolling, she's always there.' Jon simply stated 'he's there for his kids'. The fact that he stated months ago that he didn't want to continue to do the show, but she refuses to quit shows what's most important to her.

I will agree that he sometimes appears lazy and let's her do all the work, BUT from what I recall, he still has a job in addition to doing the show.

I've never watched a single episode where Kate didn't belittle him in some way. EVen during the interviews, when he's asked a question, she cuts him off in the middle of every response. No wonder he sits there rolling his eyes like he could care less.

As for the cheating, that's unacceptable, regardless, but these two people need to REALLY put their children first and get out of the lime light and deal with this situation privately. For Kate to say, they're dealing with it in their own way is crap, she's putting it all out there on the show for ratings!

It's pathetic and tragic for the children!

This show needs to go off the air- STAT. I've tried to watch maybe a dozen episodes of this shows existence- tried- but Kate has never failed to make my blood boil. Those poor children are going to end up on the show "Intervention", or something of that nature, one day. Kate is a demeaning, self centered, attention whore. John just needs some balls. But if their marriage is truly a train wreck, TLC should have the decency to recognize that the show should be taken off of the air stat.

And I think I heard Kate say she does it all "on her own".... give me an effin break. On her own? Yeah, right. Cry me a river, I feel soooo bad for you, Kate.

Kate is as phony as they come, all she wants is the publicity, she seems like all she cares about is herself and her appearance. Jon should just leave her and her complaining and find someone that will respect him for who is

Kate really needs a new hairdo
If I had the chance, I would buzz cut that hair while she was sleeping, so annoying!

I watched the 5th season opener, as well as the several times it has been re-broadcasted since the initial airing. I've been a big fan of the show from its inception, but I'm an even bigger fan of the family unit.

In order for this show to continue and be successful as "Jon & Kate Plus 8", there has to be a 'Jon & Kate'. Some therapist made a comment on "Larry King Live" last night that it appears that Jon is suffering from depression. I agree with that assessment. Kate appears to be so focused on her career (no longer THEIR career) and the kids, she has completely forgotten that they're supposed "to be in this together". And, Jon used to LOVE doing the show whereas Kate wasn't so keen on it. I think he resents that her star has risen, and he doesn't quite know where he fits in the family anymore. We all could tell him: "Be a husband. Be a father". But, that doesn't seem to be enough for him.

As big a fan as I've been of the show and of the Gosselins, it's time to end the show or put it on an indefinite hiatus for the sake of the family. The kids have even (specifically Alexis, the oldest of the sextuplets) begun to see that things have changed between Mom & Dad. This can't be kept from them as a protection for much longer. Their friends, etc. will clue them in to everything eventually.

i hate jon and kate their bad parents!

I used to watch the show as it was one of my favorites, but I cannot watch it anymore since all the media hype came out. I feel bad for all of them but that's the risk you take when you put yourself out there for the paparazzi to harass with their cameras.

I hope they can salvage their marriage, for the kids' sakes.

Jon did not change overnight. I have watched the show from the beginning and you gradually see how they started drifting apart from each other. Maybe Kate feels like Jon changed overnight because she was too blind to see it from the beginning. It takes two to break up a marriage so each has their own issues that were brought to the table.

With regards to Season 5, I do not feel that they should have continued on with another season and should have taken time off to deal with their issues. Watching Monday's show made me feel very uncomfortable and I think the producers of TLC quickly put it together to cash in on the hype. Shame on you TLC....you have taken a "somewhat" family-oriented show (if you minus the footage of Kate screaming at Jon or Jon telling Kate to take the stick out of her you-know-what) and have made it into some special I would see on E!.

I do hope that Jon and Kate work on their issues privately and do what is best for their children.

All I have to say is this it is very disapointing to see things have come to such a state. I think that there are only so many times that you can be berated in life not just tv, before you say I can't do this any more children or no children.
Jon is such a good looking man, smart, funny, hard working and it seems that Kate takes him for granted. I couldn't imagine speaking to my husband the way she does and things to just to ok. I think this has been a long time coming and you reep what you sow. I'm sorry to say but I think things are not going to be great for them. I think Kate needs to relax and get some therapy.
It's one thing to tape your family life for the preservation of the life you have and for the memories, but it has gotten to the point where Kate is chosing to have the Media life over the family life, and there isn't enough money in the world that would make me chose money over my family EVER!!!!
Shame on you Kate for not knowing when to "fold em". It looks like you are going to lose the family you love over selfishness. You are just 50
% of that family household and should respect the wishes of your better half is you ask me, that he doesn't want to do it any more!
I guess you will just have to live with the consiquences. Too bad you moved away from all your family!!!

I've watched the show since day one and have come to the following conclusion – they got married too young (him 21, her 23) and neither one knew who they were as individuals yet, let alone as a married couple. They had twins not too long afterwards, he didn't want more kids, she talked him into it anyway and it resulted in 6 more. So you've got a 27 year old guy with 8 little lives that depend on him and he's still a kid himself who didn't get to sow his oats like most 20-somethings get to do. I don't care what anyone says, no one knows what your life would be like unless you were faced with a similar situation. Jon appears laid back and like a lot of men (including my hubby) has always let his wife make most of the decisions when it comes to the children, housework, finances, time management, etc. She being the bossy and organized (almost to a fault) person that she is took that power and ran with it partly because that's her nature but mostly because someone had to step up and do it. So now, over the past 5 years, it's snowballed into a lot of resentment from both sides to the point that their relationship may not be salvageable. Whether he actually cheated on her or not, he's found a "friend" in someone who's young and carefree, who most likely hangs on to his every word and possibly reminds him of what he had with Kate before they got so bogged down in caring for 8 kids. I'm not condoning his actions in any way but I can't say I'm surprised by it. I saw this coming a long time ago. They need some serious marital counseling to see if they can make their relationship work. If not, they need to move on with a divorce and work together as best as they can to love and care for those kids.

I saw one clip of this show on the Soup where Kate basicly yelled at Jon for trying to talk. She seems like a stuck up bitch and I dont blame him at all for cheating on her if that is what happened.

I love watching the show since it started and it was a great family show. It was a show me and my 2 young kids could watch together. The 8 children are very entertaining and I always loved the way the family counted their blessings. They were a normal family trying to make it and I loved the little bible verses Kate had posted in the kitchen but somewhere along the way they lost themselves. Kate became the head of the household; which she is not. I heard more about plastic surgery, book tours, spa days and speaking engagements. Kids events became photo opportunities and not family time like the first season. Kate was always perfectly coiffed and in high heels even at the park. She has forgotten about family and focused on self; Jon needs to regain control of his household. He is the head and those are both their kids; the camera needs to go off and the marriage needs to be fixed. Adultery nor divorce is not the answer. Mark 8:36 says"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul? Kate needs to do some soul searching because Jon said he no longer wanted to do the show. What is more important to her family or fame? God bless the Gosselins

I haven't watched very many episodes of Jon&Kate Plus 8, but the
few that I did watch, I noticed how Kate seemed to treat her husband like one of the children. A wife is supposed to honor and respect her
husband, not degrade him on national TV. Jon looking for the respect and admiration he isn't getting at home in an outside relationship, is not the answer. God has given us a blueprint for what He originally designed marriage to be, and until the Gosselin's get to that, their marriage,family, and relationship is always going to be out of order.
My prayers are with this family, I hope God can restore to them what has clearly been lost...

Do what I did–STOP WATCHING! Really, it's best for all of us.

I feel that Jon and Kate need to get off the show and work on their family. Kate is always saying how the kids come first and how they are the most inportant thing, well she needs to start showing it then. With all they are going through and still doing the show is plain crazy to me. I thihnk all Kate is worried about is the money. I mean let's face it they would not be where they are today with out the show. You can tell that Jon is done with the whole show thing and all it brings with it. But not Kate she want's to keep going give it a rest all ready. And you know she is so foused on what Jon did what about what she has done she is not miss perfect in all the hersefl, from what I have read she has been going out with her body gaurd. They are raped up too mcuh in the glitz and all the things that being on a show bring's they need to go back to being what they were before the show came along. But Kate jsut keep's right on going with the show when is enough going to be enough for her? Maybe it is she will miss all the things that she has gotten from being on the show. I mean let's face it she would not be what or where she is todat without the show.

A few things I don't understand.

1) The people who say "leave them alone, leave them to their lives" – Jon and Kate put themselves out there for all to see, having a tv show opens your live up to comments.

2) For anyone in a marriage/relationship – put yourself in a position where everything you wanted, your spouse went the opposite way. Kate wanted kids early in the marriage, Kate wanted just one more, Kate wanted to be on tv, Kate still wants to be on tv. – Would you be happy?

3) This show lost me when it became "free trip of the week" – Jon didn't seem to mind that – so now your actions have negative consequences and you want off, fair enough but enough whining about it.

I just started watching the show because i think the kids are adorable, and since I don't have any its a good way to get my "kid fix." I think everyone should stop pointing fingers. None of us have been in their situation, none of us have been there for all of Jon & Kate's relationship. There's obviously been moments the two have them have had where its just them, who are we to judge?

I wish the best to the family, however the show and marriage work out. The kids have 2 parents that love them very much and that is what's truly important

John better fight for the kids custody, if not ,he will be done having to pay millions for child support. Imagine that! The way Kate is, she will do anything to leave him without his pants!

My kudos to Kate for holding it all together under tremendous stress. I stand behind her press tour, show and books because she must provide for her family. She has sacrificed as much as Jon and had a can-do attitude the whole time. She is clearly a strong woman and will come out of this more humble and wiser.

Why are they even interesting? So they have a bunch of kids? They are not the first nor the last to ever have a larg family. I refuse to watch this drivel.

I have always found Jon to be so passive in he and Kate's marriage and we all know this breeds aggression poor Kate has been set up to become a bitch from day one!! The sports car that we saw on the premiere screams loudly that Jon has had one foot in the marriage and one foot out all along. He would have the same victim attitude if Kate was back Nursing and away from home. Jon grow up yes you are young and have 8 children get some help dealing with that instead of crying like a newborn. Kate you rock and someone has to provide for your children God Bless you for embracing your parential role!!!!

Gina in Charlotte:

That is the most sensible thing I have ever read on a CNN message board.

What a couple of no talent hacks. Stop breeding morons.

I never heard of these two until lately, I watched it for the 1st time the other night and must say that television has created another monster. No wonder their marriage may be in trouble because their both very selfish and self centered people. When the kids grow up and leave and the TV crews are long gone. They'll look back and wish things were done differently. They eximplify greed. Smarten up!

Why would ANYONE watch this junk? You are all co-enablers and helping in the dumbing-down of America.

Try PBS or a science or history show instead.

And no I didn't watch it, or any 'reality' (what a joke) show. Absolutely pathetic.

Kate you basically made Jon go the direction he has. You have treated him horribly in public, so I can imagine how badly in private. You need to wake up and realize who this man is. Give him back his pride you have ripped away over the years. Your selfish, hateful, mean, and now media hungry...............WHAT is your problem!

Run Jon, run!

Finally, the show got interesting!!! This was much more engaging than the boring past shows of them raising their kids. That got stale after 5 minutes. Of course, this whole situation may have been fabricated to gain viewers, & boy, did it work! Reality t.v. is probably the biggest oxymoron of a name, since it is no longer reality once a camera is introduced & millions of people are watching their fishbowl lives. Why were they so surprised that the paparazzi were following them? They're celebrities, & this comes with the territory, especially when there's scandal. If this situation is legitimate, & not fabricated, hopefully they can work things out, for the sake of the children & themselves. This 'reunion' would also provide a big ratings boost!

My husband and I watched it and about halfway through I stopped and asked him why we were watching it, it is none of our business. Seriously, what business is it of ours and why are they playing it out on television? This is real life and a real family, not some made for tv movie. While the public needs to stay out of their marriage, they need to keep their marriage out of the media. Speak behind closed doors, ignore the cameras and it will all settle down and with our short attention span we will be on to the next drama before you know it. However, if you insist on continuing to air your marital issues in front of the camera – it will only get worse.

Kate, lighten up, do some self reflecting, and stay at home with your kids.
John, go back to work whether you need the money or not. You were both happier that way, or it seemed from TV, which I know is not always real.
I wish you both the best of luck and will be praying for you. I hope you remember that family is more important than money and fame. If I were you, I would ditch the show and go back to life before the cameras. Is it really worth it?

Ok people. Jon knew how Kate was when he married her the first time and if not should have realized it by the second time. If he is unhappy with her then he should discuss it WITH HER. These poor kids do not need to be dragged through the mud. If you listened Jon said he has not worked in 2 years and that he could not write books. That leaves Kate to go out and make money. I am glad that she is working and making money. How much more outrage would there be if she was like octomom and living off the state. Public appearances are required, I am sure, with the contract for the book deal. She is working out side the home just like Jon used too. Kate stayed at home for a couple years taking care of the kids by herself. I don't feel pity for him when he has help taking care of them during the day. Kate and Jon need to decide what is in their future and how important they are to each other. Let the show be about the kids and not parent drama.

What a painful show to watch. It is very evident the marriage is in serious trouble if not over all together. Body language said it all. How to fix it? It's hard to say but they either have to get help and move on or end the marriage. I think they are both afraid of a future without each other. Fear of uncertainity. Perhaps they are settling instead of having the lives and family life we all deserve. The press needs to leave them alone somewhat. Cameras don't need to be on them every waking moment. Give them some space.

Please, please, please, for your children's sakes, STOP doing the show! It is heartbreaking for me to think of those kids and what they must be going through. I really think that if they put aside the show, stayed under the radar for a little while, and put some effort into it, Jon and Kate could piece their family back together. I do not think they are bad parents; I think the love they have for their children is obvious. However, I think they have gotten in over their heads and may be letting their pride get in the way of reconciliation. I can only hope they will come to their senses and make the effort to fix their family.

I dunno. How does anyone think that these people will support all of those children? 8 is a LOT these days. The show affords those kids opportunities they would not otherwise have. I think Jon and Kate are doing the best they can. They are coming to grips with no longer having autonomy. This is probably a struggle many parents have, except other parents get to have that struggle in private.

The lifestyle changes that Kate & Jon (notice I put the boss first) have undergone will make it very difficult for them to stop the show. That said the relationship has always been sad to me, the controlling and demeening antics of Kate were always uncomfortable to watch. They had more kids than they could financially or emotionally support so they sold out for the money. Now the fame has gone to Kate's head and she actually thinks she has something important to share with the rest of us. Common sense is what most of us have Kate, you need a huge dose of common sense.

Has it ever dawned on anyone that maybe this whole thing was staged? I mean, the season opener had record ratings – doesn't that make you wonder? I don't think Jon is a dumb guy, you are in the celebrity world which means you are going to have papparazi following your every move – didn't he think that stepping out with another woman while Kate was "on tour" might be photographed? I just think it's a bit suspicious and EVERYONE is falling for it. Guess who's having the last laugh?

OK – please take this train wreck off the air. Remember the Loud family – the first American family to allow their lives to be filmed? Not a happy ending for a one of them.

What will they do to support their children? Kate whines??? Maybe they should have thought of that before taking fertility drugs a second time. Generally, most responsible people think of such things before bringing more children they can't afford/don't want/or pay attention to into the world.

Well, she is a nurse and he is a college graduate – there should be some normal job in the real world that might suffice. Of course her ego is such that I can't imgaine her getting back into her scrubs to help other people. It's all about Kate.

If she were sincere in helping her children, they'd sell the house, move to a small, anonymous town, get real jobs and find some humility.

One can only hope...

Kate can't possibly think of herself as a victim since she's the one that treats Jon like crap – she talks to him like he's less than human – it's time to let the show go – no one cares to watch her whine and Jon not stand up for himself

I agree that they should stop filming the show and concentrate on their marriage and family. But from Kate's point of view the show is her JOB and she needs to keep working to support her family. If this was the only way you knew how to bring in an income for your family, what else would you do?

If Kate loves her kids so much and they are her #1 priority, and if their 5th birthday is soooo important to her, please tell me why she was at a Walmart doing her book signing on May 10, 2009 (their 5th birthday AND Mother's Day).

The show should be renamed – Jon plus 8 minus Kate.

I too watched the rerun of the season premiere last night. Did it focus too much on Jon and Kate? IMHO – yes. I know they are obviously having issues, but they need to be set aside for the kids. Ignoring each other was not cool. I'm not saying stay together for the kids, but do be there for the kids. It broke my heart when Leah (or was it Alexis?!) said "I don't want you to leave anymore daddy."

Kate needs to realize that she's killing her family by being away so much. Hello! When you are called your nanny's name – and say "that's ok because....". Not acceptable. This is a warning loud and clear that you are losing touch with your kids. Also – just because Jon took a weekend to himself (How many time's have YOU done this?) and you had to take all the kids shopping, alone, doesn't mean you should rip on him for doing this. It sounds like (paraphrased from your own mouth) that YOU are out gallivanting around town "working" and he's home with the kids. Alone. No wonder you and Jon are drifting apart – you are never home to be with him.

Jon – no you are not off the hook for your antics. Should you have been at a 23yr olds home without your wife? no. Did you admit wrong? Thankfully yes. But now the doubt is there. Now go ger some MALE friends who are happily MARRIED and/or single. Sadly it's no longer "innocent until proven guilty." Now you NEED to prove yourself innocent as the media has found you guilty. You need to step up to the plate and put yourself back in the parent role and take back your life.

I feel for the kids. I really really do. THEY are the ones suffering. THEY are the one's whose life is tabloid fodder. THEY are the one's, who are later in life going to look at mom and dad and think "WTF were you thinking. My entire life is on TV for all to see. You sold me out for fame, glory and $$."

TLC – if Jon is truly the one who takes care of the kids now – portray THAT! Kate has made it clear that she has a job and Jon stays home. SHOW that instead of KATE.

Just my 2 cents.

.. I am praying for this family.. especially the children.

From one Christian to another.. I would hope that they remove their lives from the fishbowl and spend time working on their family.. If they choose to continue taping this show they will never make it.

Viewers are the cruelest most selfish types.. Let them work on it.. They know deep down inside that they can make it but they have to WANT it.

Blessings to you both Jon and Kate. Blessings and protections for the kids.

Kev

I have empathy for Jon, Kate and their entire family. I live close to their house, and it is horrible to see the out-of-state paparazzi hanging out at either end of the property, waiting for the family to come out of the house so they can take pictures. It is the media that has trapped the Gosselins in their own home. As far as their personal lives are concerned, shame on all of you out there who buy the magazines that promote the tragedy in *any* life that is within the public eye. Kate is not "emasculating" Jon – most women out there know that in times of difficulty, women tighten the reins because it is the woman who has to hold the family together. The American public is getting a first-hand view of this process. Kate is simply being strong for herself and her family. Jon seems to feel trapped, so he escapes by going out. The Legends nightclub is a fun place to go. Finally, all of you people who say Kate should stop the book tours, etc. – shame on all of you, once more. Kate is a modern business woman whose successful career is being overshadowed by the press. Good for you, Kate! You go, girl!

What do you expect Kate when you belittle and scream at Jon at every one of your whims! You should have expected him to start hating the behavior you demonstrated to him. All he can see is how you belittle him in front of the camera, and that is what all your 8 little miracles plus 2 see how you treat a man. Your sons will also grow up hating you for the way you treat them. You say you are a christian family, but are you really living the faith every day in the way you treat your children and Jon? I personally would never scream at my husband for anything because I value him more than that. I feel sorry for you but you are the reason for this!

Poor Jon & Kate & poor Kids.
This is one of those points in life when all the choices you've made, bring you right into a hurricane. God bless them both and their kids.
We all make mistakes- We are all human. NORMAL is ONLY the setting on your dryer. I would suggest a honeymoon – and some reading material- A. "Why men cheat" – it was on Oprah. VERY INTERESTING READ. And B: "The 5 love languages" – All so a Best Seller. And again HAS SAVED MANY A RELATIONSHIPS!!!!
-PEACE-
Jesus saves people & Marriages -and thank G_D for that!

Wow. I am very sad for this family. I will no longer watch this program. They can go deal with their issues in private. They do not want the attention then they do want it. Just go be normal.

I agree with the majority....TIME TO TAKE THIS SHOW OFF OF THE AIR.....these poor children. Too much of anything is not good and there has been too much "reality" for this family....get some help. See a counselor Jon & Kate before all 8 of your kids need one.
Look at what this family has rec'd in $$$$ from TLC. It's a shame. Come down to earth Kate and join society again. Wonder why they decided to have so many kids in such a short period of married time?? Sounds like the "7 year itch" has hit again.....Good Luck

I love how all these people are claiming they won't watch the show again, but I can almost guarantee that the ratings for this show are going to remain high. Almost 10 million people watched the season opener! People love to watch a train wreck, even if they find it horrifying and terrible, they're still going to watch.

As for Jon's passive aggression, guess he's not just a victim after all...cruising around in the wee hours of the morning in his new sports car with a 23 yr old,...sounds like a really great guy to me (not!). Sounds like counselling is long overdue and perhaps if initiated months or years ago, they wouldn't be in this prediciment.

I wonder if their roles were traditional – Jon away all the time making the money and Kate home watching the kids, if people would vilify Jon as much as they do Kate? I say good for you Kate for wanting to provide for your children's future and to also want a career of her own...why not?

I say good luck to this family and I'll be checking in on the next episode on Monday.

I understand that Jon is tired of being a stay at home dad but did they not make that decison together? Can he support the family if he goes back to work. I think he may need to face the facktthat he is not 20 years old and he is the father of 8 children.
I am not a fan of Kate's but I must say she seems to be the only logical one of the two. They need the show to support the life style She may be bossie but he is a low energy guy who need to stop winning and supprot this family if he thinks he can do better then do it. Stop waiting for her to fix it...BE A MAN

We've had enough of Jon and Kate....it's time they stopped being TV stars and started being parents and thinking about their children. The fame has ripped them apart and is affecting their entire family. Why folks are mesmerized by this family, is well beyond my scope of thinking but regarless of whether or not I like the family, it's time for them to turn off the cameras. Never understood the allure of this entire story, I've got a lady down the street who has 9 children and 2 that died, she used to have 11. No film crew there, nobody giving them millions of dollars....just being normal and Dad is there every night, when he comes home from work. Mind you, they aren't all the same age, but that was THEIR decision and it was their decision to put themselves on TV. Book Tours? Give Me A Break....

This whole situation is just sad. They should have quit when the Papz started coming around, and when their marriage details starting becoming tabloid fodder. These kids will be on the internet soon, and they will google their parents and see what is happening. I know the new season is already filmed and edited, but take this debacle off the air.

Secondly, who cares?

These two people need to stop their whining. They decided to have 8 kids so suck it up and be real. Take on your responsibility and be grown ups about it. I don't even watch the show and never will. I'm just sick of everytime I pick up a magazine, turn on television or read news online THERE THEY ARE!! Find another news story....PLEASE!!!

I think Kate has been a sell-out from the very beginning; unfortunately, I think she was happy she had the 6 kids at once because she knew it was a way to get out of the financial situation she was in at the time and she KNEW that it would be her what she wanted - FAME! She is so transparent. I think Jon unfortunately got hood-winked into this and is just stuck and he doesn't know what to do. He seems like a little wimp next to the she-devil of a wife he has. The kids are to be pitied and felt sorry for....with parents like that, they have a built-in problem with the rest of their lives.

I wonder how many of the people who have something to say actually have 8 children. And of those I wonder how many had 6 at one time. With a family of 5 children I understand completely how Kate and Jon continue this show for their kids. There is never enough money let alone time. Until you have that many children you have no idea how difficut it is on your marriage, finances, and personality. It is so easy being on the outside looking in to come up with all these criticisms, but how many of you have 1 or 2 children and can't get it right?! Everyone seems to forget the high divorce rate in this country and the fact that a ot of times there aren't even children involved. Focus on your own families. That's part of our problem!

I used to like the show – I won't watch it anymore because of Kate's attitude about the puppies. Did she think they would train themselves? I think they are beautiful dogs. Kids are cute too !!

For anyone that has the slightest bit of insight into the "make up" of people can see that Kate needs psychological help. She has issues from her childhood she's not dealt with and that has carried over into her adult life making her controlling, belittling, and intimidating. Obviously, Kate never got much attention as a child and with the success of their show her "fame" has skyrocketed to a point where all of a sudden she is getting an enormous amount of attention. I believe she is jealous of the childhood that Jon was privileged to have and resents hers was as fun-loving and carefree. Kate is just too regimented for some reason and can't appreciate the person that Jon became. Her belittling of him is a clear sign of resentment and is found in most bullies. In reference to her being away from the children so much, she called it "doing my job" – if I'm not mistaken her "job" is being a wife and mother – not a traveling salesperson. After watching a huge portion of TLC's marathon over the weekend, the most obvious conclusion that can be drawn is those eight children love their dad!! He is fun to be around, doesn't worry about "messes", doesn't have problems with "projects" and enjoys being with his beloved eight. Kate was all the time complaining about whining, getting dirty, not being on schedule, etc. She just can't seem to find a good mixture of when to be stern and when to have fun. Kate definitely NEEDS COUNSELING and then once she "fixes" herself, then hopefully through a marriage counselor she can repair the damage she's done to this marriage. She needs to sit back and objectively view the episodes from the beginning and ask herself, "Is this how I want my children to remember me?"

As everyone knows, it takes two: two to make it work and two to ruin a good thing. Jon and Kate share equally in creating the horrible situation they are in. With their personalities, Kate is a "take charge" person and Jon seems a bit on the lazy side. These characteristics just create a vicious circle. None of us will ever know all of the details or what goes on when the cameras aren't rolling. I suspect both parties have said and done things they are not proud of and wish they could take back. I hope the BOTH see the downward progression of their lives together and stop it before it's too late.

The show was so precious in the beginning – just focusing primarily on the little ones. Of course the show was/is about the ENTIRE family so Jon and Kate's issues unfortunately are in the forefront.

It looks like divorce is in the future. That is so sad. It's unfortunate that success and money aren't handled well by everyone who receives them. Here's hoping the children go on to lead happy lives.

Jon and Kate need some marriage counseling and they need to say goodbye to the TV show. It's time to put their marriage first, which will in turn make them better parents.

my god what is up with Kate's hair??? It looks like she has a rbird's nest propped up on the top with a buzz cut on the back of her head. Guess she needs to more attention outside of her "I'm all this and that" attitude.

I used to enjoy Jon & Kate... mostly the kids. The media HAS taken liberties but get over it and go on. This show WAS about a happy 10 person family. Now it is about Jon & Kate... NO plus 8. I didn't enjoy the season opener. I realize it is reality, but less Jon & Kate and more about the kids. Kate is anal about everything.. but DID NOT cause this indescretion. Go to counseling and give us back the entire happy family. Think of the money you will be loosing.

OK, I can't sit aside anymore and listen to this! 1) Those of you saying that they've done the right thing by doing this to provide for their children...OMG! That's something that should be planned out BEFORE you even become pregnant, you know the chance of multiple births is increased, be prepared beforehand. 2) It's great to be able to get this extra income to make things more comfortable. The key word here being "comfortable". You don't have to keep selling out your kids in order to be over the top. Does your house, car, clothes....etc. have to be so extravagant? Kudos to the people with children who tighten the purse strings, ensure their kids are happy, well taken care of, and healthy -not the most toys or the best dressed around!!! 3) These two without a doubt need to show each other some RESPECT!! And these poor kids are going to go through life not knowing how to respect other people or themselves thanks to these money-hungry parents!

This show has turned into a train wreck! Kate has gotten so materialistic and some of her kids are getting just as bad. They need to teach their children some manners. They speak so rudely to each other and adults, and are turning into spoiled, temper tantrum throwing brats. All of them need a big spankings, including the parents.

This mess going on in the media about the troubled relationship with Jon and Kate is what I call "road-kill" formalities in gaining big bucks to two people who miracuously gave birth to a set of twins and sextuplets. Kate say she has no tolerance for the paparazzis, I say yes she does. How else would she get publicity and especially what she wants most – top control. I am really fed up with the show because lately it has not focus on the kids, it's all about Jon, and mostly Kate. My honest suggestions to them and not to seek marriage counseloring, but call on the Duggars who has a wonderful show, "18 and Counting". In other words, if you focus on what God can do for the family as a whole, no others shall matter.

Kate became the head of the household, "which she is not"? Oh, really? If there's a husband, he's "automatically" the head of the household? That's news to this full-time working mom with a non-working husband. (Of course, my employer-provided health insurance lists me as the "second" beneficiary on our family policy, and there is no "first" beneficiary - they automatically marked me down as "second" because I'm female...) My name's the only one on the mortgage, and the only one on the car; my husband doesn't drive and has no interest in learning. Please don't tell me he's the head of the household!

Two words...

WHO CARES?!!?!?!

This Jon & Kate story shows me that woman have not made any progress in the last 50 years. As soon as a woman shows ambition she is a " bitch" . Kate has done what it takes to insure her kids have a good life which includes more than just two struggling parents who love their kids. Who wouldn't sacrifice anything for their kids . Jon is the villain in all this not Kate. He plays the martyr card to the hilt ; boohoo poor Jon he doesn't even work away from the house. Check out the sports car that he arrived at the kids birthday party in. He's acting like a free and single man. Good Luck Kate

WHO CARES!!! People split up everyday and life goes on.

It's a sad, sad state of "affairs"; and I get the feeling that the two older girls are very aware of what's going on. They may not be able to name it, but they feel it. Suddenly the two eight year old girls are growing up ..... and acting more adult than the adults.

My sense is that a lot of the problems began when Jon was in the position of being a 24/7 stay-at-home Dad. He needs to get out of the house with a job. He needs the adult contact .... and I don't mean a 20+ girls. But for his sake, he needs a break.

For the sake of the entire family, I hope they can pull it together.

oh please a family of 10! neither of these 2 could afford them on their salaries.

The show gave them all a huge oppurtunity now they all have college trust funds and a financially stable future.

So what if JOn feels like he is missing out on life because he lost his job – blah blah if he had kept his job and became a slave to it he would whine that he doesnt get to spend any time with his kids.

Man up!

Yes Kate has OCD but JOn is like another child to her anyway. Why the double standard ? If JOn had to go on book tours or work out of town no one would bat an eye. But because its the mom everyone is oh she should be at home!

who cares if she tans or gets a manicure i mean really. if she got fat and wore sweats everyone would call her lazy

It is truly sad to me that our society is in such a state that an individual who chooses to exploit a family tragedy for financial gain is considered a provider for her family. Folks, the kids' college is paid for (state funded actually), the house (with book deals and $75,000 per episode) should be paid for. Do I believe raising 8 children is easy? Absolutely not. However, letting the world see the suffering a family goes through is not worth any amount of "security" for a family.

I realize that this is some of you people's favorite show. It use to be one of mine too. But the time has come to stop watching it and start allowing this family to heal. In private. Without you.

I used to love this show but Kate is an "Ice Princess". It seems to always be about her and not those children. If she is so concerned about the kids. She is degrating to her husband and is always putting him down. Honestly they need to end the marriage and let her try raising these 8 on her own with no media coverage and then check back with her in a year. Jon is a great dad...I honestly saw this when his little girl came up to him and said daddy I don't want you to go away any more and he just hugged her with tears in her eyes. All I saw Kate do was critize everything and if I was Jon I'd told her to go get her own cakes!! I am a mother of twins that our 3 and I cherish my husband because he helps me with everything. We can't afford a million dollar home, I don't go and get $250 hair cuts and my nails done! I live in the real world!! Honestly Kate if you wouldn't have had those sextuplets you wouldn't be where you our now! She is just to full of herself and is an "Ice Princess" no feelings what so ever! I think they need to cancel the show so those kids can have a normal life and Jon can also have one.....as for Kate she has just made it all about her so she just needs a lot of counseling!!

SAD ...very sad..My prayers are with them....I was an avid watcher and no longer will be...shame on us for watching a family fall apart on national tv..I wish them both and their children all the best, may they find the right path to make it through this.

Jon hates doing the show but I bet he loves that new sports car he was driving and all the young female attention.
They need to put those kids first, stop the show and get some marriage counseling. What a train wreck!

Who cares what Bethanny has to say about this issue? She's doesn't have a husband, so how would she know ANYTHING about marriage. As far as Jon and Kate, they probably get a lot of perks by doing the show but need to weigh that against the damage it does to be overexposed. Thiey live in a fishbowl as do all these reality TV pseudo-celebrities. If you want privacy and peace, try getting off the television.

It is my humble opinion that this show is ruining this family, and the America that tunes in, is getting pleasure out of someone elses world crumbling out from beneath their feet.

I believe that if we want to improve society as a whole, we need to stand up and boycott this show... Let the family slide out of the limelight, and see if they can work it out in a normal situation. It is dusgusting to me that this show is continuing on for another season... Jon and Kate... and TLC... must have put their morals on hold for the all mighty dollar.

Hey, anyone remember when TLC was called "The Learning Channel" and featured educational programming?

I guess a show about a shrew and her pathetic hen-pecked husband gets the ratings, but I don't think it's educating anyone.

sick show, sick people, sick society ! truly sad...where will all this stop? when is enough enough, when is something wrong called wrong? does anyone see this? first you have irresponsible parents who, with twins, go to ferilty treatment!!! when they can barely support their family, then we have this sickness of a show that morphed from a ligh hearted cutsy, family-oh-my-God-it's-so hard-but-fun to raise 8 kids into a financial monster with big money implications where the kids have become the meal ticket for the parents...wow and we are surprised that the family has fallen apart and the worst in people has come to the forefront ?? Keep it up media, way to go!

Come on people, quite hating on Kate and Jon. This is there job, they both quite their jobs to do this (well Kate quite her job when the babies were born). If Jon is so unhappy then he needs to go back to doing IT work as before. They did the show before while he was working his old job they can do it again. In this economy if this is how they have to support there family then they need to continue with the show.

If you don’t like it then DO NOT watch it, but don’t be rude and mean to people you don’t even know and who are trying to support there family.

Kate is a total jerk, she always treats Jon like some lap dog. Do this do that when the man is clearly capable of handling these tasks on his own. If Kate wanted Jon to stay faithful then she ought to not be so controlling and bitchy. I totally think the fame and money went right to her big fat ignorant head.

I'm not watching the show anymore, hope they can get their problems sorted out. Its a terrible shame the kids are involved in this and have been sold out by their mother to main-stream media.

I think this is a sad situation with a couple that originally agreed to do the show because the kids could someday look back on these shows & see themselves grow up and it provided a much needed source of income to raise all these kids.

The marital problems & arguments they are having are not uncommon for a couple...especially one with 8 children. The problem is that the publicity is making it worse. It shows you how a marriage that was a bit shaky to begin with can be ripped apart by money & the media.

Through Jon & Kate marathons you can watch attitudes change as Kate starts out as a controlling but also a caring & natural-looking mom in early episodes and slowly developes into a self-absorbed snob by later shows, caught up with material perks. Jon seemed noticeably happier & more intune with Kate in the earlier episodes and gradually becomes more & more distant, avoiding to comment during interviews...letting Kate do most of the talking.

What can they do? They ARE stuck. If I try & put myself in their shoes I can see why are trying to hold onto this show. They can't go back to the private, simpler life they had before their lives were sold to the public. They gave up family, friends, their jobs, their privacy for this show. If they quit, they'll lose all the help they get right now with these kids & lose their income.

I feel like Kate is a money hungry woman, She should stop the show (which im not sure how its been on this long anyway, big families are everywhere.)for the best intrest of her family. Her husband has expressed his wishes and they seem to not matter much to her. Shes too busy traveling around promoting books (not sure who wants to read them), getting work done on her self, she needs to get a REAL job, help her husband support their children and move on with a NORMAL life without the media. she is totally exploiting her kids for her own financial gain, disgusting to me! i even read somewhere that she feels like we (the public) owe her??? They decided to go through with the fertility treatments knowing full well what the outcome could be. I am just beside myself at these people. I dont blame john a bit for going outside their marriage to find someone he could talk to. She seems crazy mean to me!

I have enjoyed the "role reversal" question. You know the one where someone says that if Kate were a man, or Jon a woman, would people be okay with their current situation. Here are a few thoughts: 1. If Jon were the one traveling all the time, people would be more receptive of that arrangement; 2. If Jon slapped Kate, called her names, and belittled her to no end, the show would have been canceled long ago and Jon would be in jail; 3. If Kate was out late with another man, she would be considered a slut (as opposed to a victim in many people's eyes); 4. And if Jon were green and living in a fairy tale, he would be Shrek. All of that is to say, the whole role reversal discussion is moot because Jon is Jon and Kate is Kate. If the roles were reversed, you wouldn't care because the show would not be on the air. Think about it.

Kate has spoiled the show for me from nearly day one. She is a sarcastic bully, slapping Jon, interrupting him and god help him if he should interrupt her. Sets off another one of her tirades. How ironic in one episode one of the little girls hit one of the boys and he begins to cry. Jon said "that didn't hurt you" at which Kate began one of her screaming tirades saying "WE DON'T HIT !!" Well how many times when the camera was off did she hit Jon. We saw plenty of times when it was on. Her children see that and hear her screaming at them and Jon over the littlest infractions. There is something wrong when a 3 yr little boy gets upset and cries because he got a little dirt on his shoe. Notice that except for her brother she has nothing to do with "her" family, or is it the other way around. She needs serious anger management and counseling. I hope Jon can get some counseling and learn to stand up for himself . They both need to set a good example for their children. I think Mady needs counseling too. She's just like her Mother, bossy, wanting her own way and pitching a fit over every little thing. Kate complained Jon thought he needed a weekend off!! Hmmm was this after he stayed home with the kids while she traipsed all over the country promoting her books on the talk shows? SHE is the one destroying their marriage and their family. Oh, and Kate, cut that stupid, one sided hair-do. You looked so nice in the earlier shows. I think it's time to fold the "show". She keeps saying "the children deserve all this". No, the children deserve a more normal life, even if it means you staying home and being the good mother you think you are. Good luck to all of them, they are going to need it especially with Jon in the middle, loving his children and trying to please her. I enjoy the good sense Jon uses with his children. He truly loves them and he shows it. God Bless

Jon and Kate are NOT exploiting their kids. Are the Duggars exploiting their kids? What about those little people? Are they being exploited? I didn't think so. You people just don't like Kate so you're screaming exploitation where there is none.

Kate has handled 8 children admirably. As a parent of 3 young children, I'm not always "at my best" and my frustrations come out on a daily basis. I can't imagine how I would act with 8 children. Jon needs to grow up and act like a man. Right now, he acts like he had no say in what happened in his life. If he had an opinion, he should have spoken up loudly a long time ago. He chose to go along for the ride. If the tables were turned, and he had opportunities to travel, write books, or give speeches... you can bet he'd take it in a heartbeat. Instead, he chooses to whine that he hasn't had a say in how his life has progressed. And Jon, here's a thought - if you don't want the family to be on TV anymore - then GET A JOB. You need to make money from somewhere. Actually, maybe now that we see how Jon whines as if things have been out of his control, we can try to understand why Kate has to treat him as she does. Act like a child...get treated like a child.

Kate & Jon have an unusual life, thus were given an unusual opportunity to provide for their 8 children. Most people presented with this opportunity would not say no. No one could've expected the show to do so well or create such a firestorm. Look at other examples such as the Duggars... and Little People Big World. Matt was pulled over for DUI, but he didn't get this kind of backlash. Their shows do well, but are nothing compared to Jon & Kate's show. Jon made it clear at the end of Season 4 that he was not interested in continuing on, while Kate was. Perhaps Jon is acting out in an effort to get the show cancelled. Perhaps he was trying to sabatoge the show with his actions and it backfired on him. Regardless, as a parenting educator and family attorney, I can tell you that children tend to adapt to their surroundings. These children have been raised around the cameras and at their age are most likely unaware that their lives are any different from any other child. What will effect them is the changes within the household such as having a caretaker other than one of their parents on a regular basis and noticing that Mommy & Daddy don't talk anymore or are never in the same room anymore. They will pick up on those things and it will begin to show in their actions and reactions toward their parents. I fully support Kate. You have to be tough to control that many people and that many responsibilities. When she was home with the kids and Jon escaped to work everyday, we never heard her complain. Jon could be just as appreciative of her now that she is working out of the house and it would probably benefit them both, their children and their marriage. Affairs don't have to mean an automatic divorce. Sometimes an affair is a symptom of a deeper problem and if that problem can be addressed and trust restored, the marriage and the family can be saved. When possible, doing so is ALWAYS in the best interest of the children.

Jan – give me a break. It transcends the boundaries of absurdity to insinuate that Kate deserved to be cheated on because she "emasculated" her husband and he has no where else to turn. If he wants to assert his manhood, he can be a proper husband and father, while in parallel improving his self esteem by paving his own way to success. Quitting his job was certainly not the way to do that. Kate is setting a much better example for her children than he is, and if they separate, she will need the income she is receiving from her books and other projects to support her family (and sadly, potentially provide spousal support to her loser husband, which is pathetic). She's trying to make the challenging situation she is in work for her and that's totally respectable. She even said last night that she was still there and would be there for her family – he could not say the same. Clearly she is still in love with him and helpless to do anything about his behavior. Jon is nothing but a total freeloader and there is no excuse for his behavior, his predicament is of his own creation. And as far as your comments on her looks, I don't think she's trying to be a supermodel, she just takes care of herself and that's self-respect, not vanity. Furthermore, if we're talking about attractiveness, Kate is infinitely better looking – and as we now know, smarter and more enterprising – than Jon.

I did watch the Season 5 Premier of Jon and Kate Plus Eight and when it was over my heart was breaking and I was crying. My prayer is that God will heal their marriage and their family.

If the season opener is a glimpse as to what future episodes will be like then I don't see any point in watching the show. It will be too depressing and it doesn't even focus on the kids anymore. The show has completely lost it's perspective. I'm sick of seeing the status of Jon and Kate's marriage on every tabloid and magazine cover. I wish the media would just leave them alone and maybe it wouldn't be such a big deal anymore. Let them do what they need to do in private. No wonder Jon seems so sad. I would be too if I had those crazy photographers chasing me around all the time. It's been blown way out of proportion.

This couple's first mistake was making their family their career. Jon even said it on the show, they are one in the same. The show was good when it was more documentary-style, but now it is so commercialized, the kids are like characters in a sit-com. And Kate is writing books as part of the Jon and Kate machine? Who in their right mind would want to read what she has to say? Her parenting advice would go something like this: use fertility treatments, get pregnant with a bunch of kids, make yourself into a martyr for having all these kids, collect as many freebees as you can, put your kids on TV, write a book about it all. Not something I would ever think about doing to my children or my family!

I believe this is all a publicity stunt for more financila gain. Shame on them as parents to put the kids through this. Shame on TLC too.
Kate has belittles Jon so bad, I would have left her butt long ago.
She said it her self, this is a business. I am done watching this junk.

I see more women are supportive of Jon than Kate. I too feel that Kate is too much of a control freak. Rather than letting each of the kids be individuals she always has to have them dressed exactly the same way. They are individuals, let them be that. Stop being so overbearing Kate! The majority of people think that you are a b****! Why is everyone harping on Jon's supposed infidelity? Wasn't there something in the rags about Kate?
Taked this last episode, Kate wouldn't even acknowledge Jon was there, almost always adressing him in the 3rd person. Even told him exactly where to sit for the group phots after he had sat down, and oh yes, don't forget to take off those sunglasses Jon!
To me it has always been the Kate show, only what she wanted when she wanted. To me the kids show more love to Jon than Kate.

I feel bad for all of them. I think Jon looks exhausted and as much as I admire Kate.......she needs to "Stop" and take a look at herself. He looks whipped/beaten down. She looks like a millon bucks......hair.....clothes.......stylish, new millon dollar home, The money must be fantastic but I think she needs to take a hard look at herself. They are both very good parents. I mean having 8 kids .....I can't even imagine.......they are adorable children and for the most part seem to do pretty darn good.

Maybe they should slow down and work on putting their marrage and family back together. What about having maybe 6 shows a year for special occassions...........the birthday party for the 6 started the season off. When are the twins birthday? Celebrate July 4th? Maybe next would be a summer vacation, Thanksgiving, Christmas.. This way the would get the kids use to NOT being around the camera every week. They are getting to the age that this may not be the best thing for them. Too much attention. I adore this entire family.....and I do not think bad of Jon or Kate. I think he has gone along with it and now he's simply asking Kate.......to maybe take a break. Enough is enough. No one enjoys watching this show anymore than I do because as I said having 8 kids in itself is a full time job........and will do a number on any marriage. I hope they try and work it out. It's starting to get really ugly and that's not good for them, the children and certinely no pleasure to watch. Good luck Jon and Kate. I hope you make the right decision. You have a lot of people pulling for you!
Hugs to you both and your adorable children

It upsets me how judgmental the human race can be. No one knows the full story behind anything except for Jon and Kate. Leave these poor people alone.

I think most of the negative posts are from people who did see the earlier shows. Kate was home with the kids 24/7 – they hardly even went to the store as it was too difficult to bring all the kids. So now they made some money and have bought some things. Who wouldn't treat themselves and "upgrade" with a bigger home and some indulgences if their finances allowed – especially after going without for awhile?
As I said they need counseling and I just pray that the kids get through this ok.

I used to watch the show but stopped about a year ago. It became less about normal living with 8 kids and more about taking big trips and going to the spa. Give me a break – I have 6 kids and no one helps us fold our laundry! Anyway, I do find it very sad and Kate will only see what she wants to see. I think her bad behavior HAS been pointed out to her, but she doesn't want to hear it.

On another note – I think that rallying around the kids isn't the right answer. A couple that rallies around each other will have a happy marriage, which then helps the children be happy. Your house might not be perfectly clean or your children perfectly behaved, but your marriage will be happy if you can learn to support each other as spouses and in the end, that is more important IMHO.

how do you feel sorry for either one of them? look at the money they made! I laugh when I hear Kate say she is working.....they are both full of crap truly. He needs to grow up and she needs to stop trying to get the sympathy vote and get over herself.

Loving parents would not be creating a documentary of the collapse of their marriage for their children to see in re-runs for the rest of their lives. It is sad whenever a child has to find out that their parents do not love each other....watching over and over again on TV will be excruciating for them. I can just see it.....someone gives them the box set of the destruction of their family for Christmas.

Jon and Kate – get off the TV, settle your issues, and take care of your kids. There is already too much information out there. Nothing more that the two of you say or do will help us...you...or your kids.

I have a great I idea for a show episode. We send Kate off to the 18 and Counting family (the Duggars). She sees what a real loving family is like and how to be a god fearing women that thinks outside of herself.
We send the Duggar mom to the Gosselin household to show Jon and the kids what a "real" women is like and how to raise a family, with Christian values.

Then we do an interview with Kate and we see what she has learned and will live by, Sorry, hun if you haven't learned anything you must quit the book tour and go back and continue to live with the Duggars until you reform.

meant to say who did NOT see the earlier shows

It's all a marketing ploy. Thanks for the high ratings....suckers.

I have watched the show since the first episode and have always enjoyed it. I think it is the most down-to-earth reality show out there and I do feel that Jon and Kate have opened their doors to America and allowed us to view just what it takes to raise multiples in a happy, loving, stable home. I have read the comments here where some are bashing Kate while others are bashing Jon. I honestly don't think either is so much to blame, as it appears to be circumstances. With the popularity of the show and the constant cameras (not TLC) following them around, Jon cannot go to the local bar for a drink without it blowing up into a huge "marriage on the brink of divorce" situation. Kate cannot travel on business to provide income for their family without being preceived as an absent and neglectful mother and wife.

Everyone needs to vent during stressful situations (think raising 8 kids under 10 is not stressful? Try opening up a daycare on a 24 hour basis...think about that for a while). Children vent by throwing toys, biting, temper tantrums, etc. Some adults vent on a more verbal basis, like Kate taking control and barking orders to everyone around her, including Jon . While others may vent on a more non-verbal basis, like Jon disconnecting himself from the family for "alone" time when his help is needed. Is either one more or less right in their ways? It's not for us to judge.

In a nutshell, I think the family is normal. Sometimes poor decisions are made. That's how you learn and grow, get over it and move on.

The public should not be so judgemental because if you think about your own life and your own family, I can bet that everyone of us could come up with things that either we have done or a family member has done to us that would cause the rest of the world to think how whacked out and disfunctional our lives are.

Hang in there, Jon and Kate. Remember why you loved each other enough to marry in the first place. Keep in mind that as the kids grow and become less dependent on you, you will have more time to reconnect as a couple. Better times are coming, stay committed and work hard to get through the difficulties.

Im getting tired of Jon and Kate in the media. Im over their marriage issues. If they want to divorce get it over with, but why put your family through all this trouble on tv. Take some time away from the limelight and focus on whats truly important = your 8 kids.

Why I hate "reality" TV. It's all a sham. It's exploitative. It's all canned. These poor kids are being exploited by their money hungry parents. Besides, I find the show incredibly boring. So what, they have a big family. So do thousands of other families in America. So why them? I know a family that has 11 kids. If Octomom ever gets on TV, I'll boycott that as well. I don't give a damn about John and Kate's marriage. That's a sham as well. Being together to have their show; exploit their children. What a bunch of sleezeballs. And TLC is playing into their hands. The Learning Channel. Are learning anything from these people other than they are hypocrites and opportunists? TLC, go back to real documentaries. Teach me something I don't know.

They really need to stop doing this show and she needs help. She is way too into herself and doesn't seem to care about her family the way she did when they first started the show. She treats Jon horrilbly. If he treated her like that, everybody would be screaming that he was abusing her. She should get some help for her control issues, take responsibility for her part in what is going wrong in the marriage and deal with it. But then again, she will probably blame everybody else when all those children turn out to be messed up adults.

You know, I watched a couple of episodes of John and Kate and what I saw astounded me. First, before I get into it, I'll say that John does not need to go outside the home for love. He does need to stand up to his wife. In the two episodes I watched I thought she was extremely bitchy and overbearing. She was trying to run everything and was doing a fair job at running over and alienating her husband. Marriage is 50-50. No more, no less. You two need to work on it for the sake of your kids!

I think it's obvious Jon has realized that the show is not the best for his family/kids and wants it to be over with, not only for him, but for his marriage and children. Unfortunately, I think Kate is a money-grubbing nut who doesn't care what effect the show has on her family. I really miss the show from a couple of years ago when they did normal things like go grocery shopping, celebrate holidays and do family things together... instead of moving into mansions, going on trips, and getting surgery and hair plugs!

Well Kate, I hope you're happy. Your need for attention and money is costing you your family. It's been clear for awhile now that your husband hasn't wanted this show to continue and who could blame him? Kate, you are doing this for yourself and all your pathetic attempts to convince us otherwise are laughable. You're not doing any of this for your kids or your family. If they were truly your first priority then you would walk away from this show and focus on healing the damage that's already been done. By choosing the show, you show your true colors. Shame on you.

The show used to be fun but it stopped being fun early on. Haven't seen an episode in a couple of years. Now TLC seems to have their show on repetedly, as if there is nothing else. It's not just this family; it's also the fact that over 9 million people tuned in to watch this family fall appart, and they are all over the news. I'm not sure if we are not all to blame. But still, they did not have to invite the cameras in but they did and really, Kate has not changed all that much; she's always been very controlling and demeaning, she's just not hiding it for the cameras anymore. They are an example of how we all need to take responsibility for our actions.

Good for you Jon. Make your new girl call you Mr. President.

I had to stop watching this program. They both set poor examples of how a husband and wife should treat each other. They are teaching their own children how to have a disfuntional marriage and relationship. I can not stand Kate and her attitude towards her husband, her obsessive attitudes, or her inability to not be in control of everything. She has no idea how disturbing she is! I first felt sorry for Jon because of her, but then realized that he doesn't have to allow her to treat him this way. Anyway, I no longer watch their program.

Honestly, I think they should put the show on hold until they can figure their marriage out. They may not show it, but the children feel it. The older girls see how their parents aren't together as much. I don't know the whole story, but I think the need to get some counseling and talk it out. Take it step by step. Communicate! Express to eachother what they feel and need/want out of their relationship. The whole avoiding each other or silent treatment will just eat at you. Coming together and having a solid bond is very possible. They need to get back to the foundation of their marriage and why they love each other. Take some time out of the limelight because it seems to be doing more harm than good right now. I am sure the money if great, but it isn't that great when it is at the expense of your family. Be encouraged Jon and Kate. Put the Lord first in your marriage! I'll be praying for you all! You can beat the odds!

Enough already. This is a family and we (the fans that watch) are supporting the PT Barnum theory.

This has become a circus and now we want to watch a real family, with real kids and hearts go through the torture of marital strife?

TLC will use them for as long as they are profitable.

Just sad – I'm signing off this one.

It is understood that the only reason that they do this show is for the $$$$$. I'd love to be able to just quit my job and stay home with my child. Hey TLC, what about a show about becoming a first time parent at the age of 47. Yeah, I know, not quite interesting as the Gosselins. All the drama is making this show not so interesting anymore. I could care less about the marriage drama and Kate doing book tours. I'm interested in the day in/day out managing of all the children. At first I admired Jon & Kate because they were such "hands on" parents. Not so much anymore with all the "celebrity" it brings.

I stopped watching the show a while back because I found it hard to watch Kate mistreat Jon. I wondered why he tolerated it – maybe because he wanted the show to go on and provide an income to support his children. I believe he put his children first in that respect.
I don't support his unfortunate eventual choices any more than he does....but I understand them.
How does anyone get the idea that they can belittle and mistreat another human being without consequences? So many people verbally brutalize others. One way or another, there is always a price to pay.

was a fan
watched the premier
promptly took it off the dvr list

will not be watching anymore and for the kids' sake hope the ratings take a dive and the show gets shut down sooner rather than later

I love this family and this show. I watch it religiously but I do have to say that I am sadden by the choices of this family. I do think that Kate was hard on Jon but to be honest.. you have to be in control and in order when you have 8 kids running around. There needs to be rules. I do stand behind Kate when she says that everyone is responsible for their own actions.. This is so true. so everyone that is saying.."Kate drove Jon to cheat".. That is ridiculous. He is responsible for his own actions.

I read that the Gosselins make $75,000.00 per episode.. That is a lot of money and true.. it the fame and fortune might have gotten to Kate's head a little but if everyone was honest with themselves.. they would do it too. I know I would. It I got paid $75,000.00 per episode to let a camera crew into my house to film my life and children.. sure thing.. I would not hesitate once but when it came down to my husband not being happy.. That would be when we would need to sit down and talk about the pros and cons of doing the show.

I am praying for this family and hope for the best. I am just really tired of the tabloids saying Kate is a monster when they DO NOT EVEN KNOW HER... we live in a crazy world...

I watched this show for the first time two evenings ago and found myself sickened. The first impression of Kate is of a self absorbed ego-maniac who could care less about those children and her husband. All I heard were negative comments from her and of how she is doing so much! Really Kate!?! How much are you doing? She has help for everything for goodness sake. To top it off, her husband shared with everyone his displeasure of filming any longer and she was so happy go lucky about continuing. This woman isn't interested in making her marriage work for those kids and I don't buy for one second that her tears were real. Everyone should do those kids a favor and stop watching that show so TLC cancels it.

Kate will lose it all in the end. The kids will be adults longer than they
will be the clueless cuties. They will see the truth on their own. Their mom became the self centered primp that didn't really care about their dad being part of their lives and treated him as a nothing.

Kate, enjoy your time w/ your kids as it is limited.

Oh and hopefully you put back enough money to continue to waste it
trying to be someone you clearly are not.

Leave these people alone? Why? Are they not the ones putting themselves on TV which gives the viewer the right to comment? If they want to be left alone then they'd cancel the show! My guess is they can put up with a few negative comments for the positive bank account. Wake up.

Everybody keeps ragging on Kate. She is not to blame 100% here folks. There are two main factors with this mess....that is TLC and the people that suck the life out of this story (the infatuated public). Everybody keeps ranting that she needs to take care of her family and end it. TLC has a contract with them!!! If they did not do this season you know how fast TLC would file a lawsuit BECAUSE they are making marks with ratings because the PUBLIC wants to watch it. Neither one of them have other jobs so the money Kate makes off her book (completely acceptable people!) to support her family would be taken by TLC.

Don't get me wrong I think she has always been mean to Jon but she is not to blame here. You have two other factors controlling the puppet and that is TLC and obsessed public.

Cheers!

Did anyone catch this? When Kate took the kids to buy party supplies – as she gets out of the car she says "Oh, there are the paparazzi". One of her sons then says "What are paparazzi?". In the next scene, Kate is sitting in her confessional chair and says "when your child says "Oh, there are the paparazzi, you know it is getting out of hand."
She was the one who initiated the topic – and her son asked what she meant! Just shows – her version of events might not be completely believable.

I am SO done with this show – the "reality" of Kate not wanting to ruin her makeup because she shed a tear said it all for me.

Kate can be harsh – but give her credit – she admits it. She also did not let them edit out her hissy fits.
And again, to all those criticizing the money they are spending – so what? Movie and sports stars make 100x as much – should we get on them for owning big houses, cars, etc.? At least Jon & Kate are raising their kids – seems a bit harder then acting in a movie or throwing a baseball or taking steroids and throwing a baseball.
Hope they will take a break from the show and focus on the kids.

I hope that he wises up and kicks her to the curb on the air. Period.

Why are people so facinated with this show and reality shows about families with a million kids?!? It's so ridiculous. It's not like they had these kids naturally - they're another couple who had fertility treatments - for both of their pregnancies. They already had twins before becomming pregnant with sextuplets. They are so stupid that they didn't realize they had no way to support 8 kids, so what did they do?? They ran to some TV producer and sold out their family. Why do Americans find this crap so interesting? It's pathetic and hello people - it's NOT reality!

You go Kelly! I have been watching this show from the beginning and it is obvious now who wants this show to continue and who doesn't! Look at Kate's transformation from when she first had the sextuplets to now. Look at her hair, her teeth, her wardrobe, her new house... The list can go on and on! Jon has willingly taken a back sit to Kate and had to listen to her demeaning attitude the whole way. He has finally taken a belly full and he can't take any more. You put anybody's back up against a fence and they are gonna come out swinging! Jon's true interest is for his children. Kate only cares about herself and if the show stops, her future is very grim!! Listen up lady, as soon as the ratings drop, your show is out of there! Personally, I think this is a propaganda ploy to get people interested in the show again so their ratings will climb back up!

I cannot believe all of the people feeling sorry for poor Jon. Please give me a break. He whines all of the time about i can't be myself so i guess his self is a self centered party boy who likes to spend the money that has been made off of the show but he wants his privacy so he can whore around on his wife and kids. I have never liked him (i don't like spineless whiny men) and i have always seen him for what he is NOTHING! Look back on the jobs people his wife has always been the bigger bread winner she was an RN and he was a computer IT anaylst they don't make big bucks and maybe she had to be hard on him because he is a big spender who doesn't really want to work for it. You don't cheat on your family just because your life becomes hard. I bet if he didn't have the money from the show the tramp he is screwing and partying with would not give him the time of day. People talk about her going to the spa well he goes to the club to work out, plays golf and goes to night clubs. Hello she is working promoting books and bringing in money for the family even if you don't agree with how she is doing it, it is still working. Something he has not done for a couple of years i believe. By the way she is doing the same things all of the movie stars you go to the movies to watch are doing they are not always home with their kids, they have nannies, cooks, body guards etc... and so do alot of rich people. Everyone just thinks they have the right to bash Kate because she is on a reality show. I have always worked and sent my kids to daycare and school while i did so i guess i am a terrible parent for working to give them what they need. Shame on me. No one knows what goes on behind closed doors for sure, but i would have kicked his ass to the curb years ago. I work with a bunch of whiny men who have no initiative and he is alot like them he doesn't do a damn thing unless he is told maybe if he had been a real man she would not have had to be hard on him to get him to do anything.

I really like this family and I hope that they can work everything out. Everyone needs to realize that Kate was the same Kate and John was the same John when they met and married. I think that keeping the show going is good as it has become a kind of normal for this fam and that John and Kate are trying to keep things the way they always have been. Good luck, I am routing for you guys as you seem to be a loving sincere family who actually cares about their childrens lives!

What a sick sign of just how voyeuristic our society has become. Why don't you all just turn this festering wound off and get your own lives? While I've never watched the show ( the media bites are enough to try to stomach), to me it's like watching someone slowly die. Leave these poor people alone so that they can focus on their lives....and you focus on your own. Enough is enough!

Why the hell is Bethany Frankel commenting on this situation at all. Who cares about what that drama queen has to say about something she knows nothing about?!?

Get a grip...of reality. We all could use a dose of it. Take the show off the air and let them survive like the rest of us.

This was a favorite show of mine and now I am so disappointed in Jon and Kate. I think Jon has been trying to express himself that he wants to be Jon. I think he made poor decisions but haven't we all. Kate is not the perfect person, she needs to soften listen to Jon and actually be there for her children and Jon. I know her travels helps pay their way but maybe its time to slow down do less shows and everyone be a family. They both expressed that they were there for the children, but I did not hear that they were there for each other. That needs to come first

i feel like the show (and maybe the network that continues to air it -TLC) is ruining this family and their marriage.

jon is extremely depressed, he wants a normal quiet life back. he may not be coping well with this and may have made some poor decisions...i really don't know.
kate...don't even know where to begin...the folks above have already said it. media whore, gone to her head, etc etc and so on.

jon seems to be the only one that has any sense right now. he knows this show is ruining his life and marriage. he knows this show is no longer good/healthy for their kids to have a normal life. he knows that its turned into a business that sells his, kate's, and his children's personal and private lives to the masses. and he wants out. i don't blame him.

TLC should pull the plug on the show ASAP and get these 2 in to some serious marriage counseling – and NOT have it televised. i feel bad for these kids...who knows how messed up they'll be now.

Stick a fork in them both, they are so done. Just take a look at Kate, there is nothing left that she could do for her self, from her hair to her toes, nothing but the best, I don't think she does anything for her kid's if the camara is not rolling. Jon needs to man up and take control of the situation. $75,000. every show is enough money that neither needs to leave the house for work, just focus on the kids that they both claim is there top priority.

I guess the $50k per episode is more important then the family. I don't watch the show, but the few times that I did channel surf to it, I figured that there was problems. Kate never let Jon speak or if he did, she interrupted. I guess she just loves the limelight. Maybe it's time to turn the camera's off and try and get the family on a better path. But I guess money won out again.

Why would any couple do a reality show unless they want money!!!!!!!!!! its a bunch a bs that they are doing it for there kids the kids are too young to understand what is going on!!!!!!!! and need i remind them is that how many reality couples have lasted doing a reality show?????Maybe 1????? and kate is mean she makes jon feel like he is just a sperm donor!!! nothing else good job jon i would of cheated to

With 8 kids, divorce shouldnt even be on the table

This whole show is pathetic now. You both should be ashamed of yourselves.

Kate, (God forbid) if one of your family members became tragically ill near death, would you keep filming? Would you keep the money rolling in or would you shut off the cameras and collect your life by realizing what is important? Well, that's what is happening to your marriage! It's dying and you're making plans to abandon it by the wayside. Is it just easier to move on since you have the funds? And YES, you have reduced Jon to an imbecile and YOU don't always pronounce your words correctly either! And yes YOU ramble on and on too!

Jon, put your pants on and take charge of your family! No matter what happens in your marriage, you can't "take a break" from it.

As for me, I loved watching the children. Not Jon. Not Kate. Just the kids. I will no longer watch the show.

Best part of the show: those cute kids. WORST part of the show: Kate Gosselin. She has turned into a real nutcase, prancing around in her "I've got it all together" self righteousness. She claimed on the show that she believes everyone is responsible for their own actions, but she sure doesn't practice what she preaches. It is shocking the way she talks to her husband. The episode in which she barked "SPEAK!" at him was appalling. A blog entry I came across called her "Nurse Ratchet" and I think it fits rather well.

Jon looks increasingly depressed and would benefit from his own counseling in addition to any joint counseling.

On the show John said he quit his job two years ago to help with the kids so it looks like the show is their support. How can they raise 8 kids if they quit? Kate has her books but still going out on signing tours. It looks like he has moved out as one of the kids told him she did like when he went away and when could he come back... he lied to her saying, " daddy has to work sometimes" Ok where is Dr Phill?

I agree with everyone who has seen how Kate has morphed into Super Diva this last season especially. She's not an actress, someone please tell her that her phony act isn't working. She LOVES the paparazzi!! Kate now believes the show's star is herself, not the darling children. I never watched the show for Kate, but for those sweet babies. Mady and Cara have obvious personality problems that I think stem from Kate's manic ways. I don't blame Jon for getting fed up, the way Kate treats him it's like he's staff or something. She acts like she hates him, and not just recently. It's been growing over the last few years. What up with that renewal ceremony Kate? Another phony star outing for you? Watch your body language over the last few years of the show...quite telling.

Every time I feel that I've missed something by not having children of my own I tune into J&K+8 and in that short amount of time I'm thankful that my husband and I didn't have children. First, I feel Kate's pain and frustration; however, I would have dumped Jon a long time ago. It appears to me that he wants all the trimmings but doesn't want to do any of the work. He should have kept his day job and stayed out of Kate's way. I was appalled that he drove up in a sport car in this season opener, flaunting his success with Kate clearly doing all the work, as usual. What "real" woman out there would want him!!!??? EWE!! To me he is lazy, self absorbed, not at all good looking and the crack about his not wanting any of this from the beginning is a bit too late. He should have thought about that before he married Kate. If I were Kate I would go it alone entirely. Cut him loose, derail his gravy train and see how many women find him attractive. IT'S THE MONEY JON, DEFINITELY NOT YOU. Kate needs to kick him to the curb – who needs a partner with a total lack of morals around your children? If he found it so easy to fall out of love with her it won't take long before the kids start cramping his style. And the "nothing happened" teacher deserves all the unhappiness and more she helped inflict on this family.

I thought the show was supposed to provide all the monetary needs for the family so both parents could stay home to raise the kids...no babysitters, nannies needed. Does Kate really need the money from the book sales? Does she need to be travelling around the country signing books? I think she has fallen into a very bad case of greed. If they started the show so both parents could spend lots of time with the kids, the goal has certainly changed to greed (at the expense of their marriage). To feel loved, I think most kids need one thing mostly...their parents' time (not more material things). Wise up, Kate and Jon. You had a good thing going with just doing the show. In my opinion, the whole thing fell apart when Kate started travelling with her book deal. I don't think Jon signed up for that part.

I watched the premier and I just think Kate is hypocrit. She complains about the paparazzi to the camera crew that already follows her around. In my personal opinion, the show started out as an innocent idea to to illustrate the trials of raising two sets of multiples. However, it ballooned into an empire. I believe Kate is in it for the money at this point. I agree that the cameras should be shut off and the Jon and Kate should focus on their family. But, I guess money is more important.

There's so much commentary about the Jon&Kate Plus 8 brood that I'm not sure I will be adding anything signifcant. But I do want to say something. I've watched this show on and off for a few years, not so much the original episodes, but the occasional rerun. I have to say I agree with the many comments that Kate came across as being rough on Jon many, many times. I have a feeling she doesn't quite see it, although she admitted to being hard on him over the last 10 years. I was saddened to hear her express more than once that what she does is for the children. Everytime it was spoken it was in an emphatic manner that really was a covert defense of her actions regarding the show, the book signing and speaking engagements. While I noticed that she was vocally explaining her activities as being for the children I was taken aback by the fact that I was hearing she was putting the children first before her marraige. If the marraige had been the priority from day one we may not have seen as much of the Gosselins on TV and perhaps today they would be in a smaller house, but happily and contently living loving and productive lives as Husband & Wife first, then Father and Mother to the children second. If there was one thing I could say to them both, it is please stop the destructive course you are on. We enjoyed your family for a season, but if you continue I'm afraid your family will be badly damaged emotionally. I don't think you're children need counseling as some posts have argued. But please, find a good godly Christian Marriage Counselor for the two of you. If either of you are seeing someone- end that relationship now. As long as you are married you have no business seeing someone else. Right now you may have to do the counseling for the children sakes and not for each other due to the bitterness you may have for the other. You've obtained riches, that's obvious, but where does it end? With your divorce? What of the children then? I thought you did this all for them. I can tell you from experience, other than death of a relative, nothing is more devastating and scarring for a child than to have the parents break up. It may have become a common practise in our society, but it's effects and damages are real. So if you really care about the children Jon & Kate, say goodbye to us and go work on your marriage.

You know she was complaining about the paparazzi in the trees. You have how many acres at your house? Why did the party have to be at the park, it was not like she did not have room at home.
I think they need to go to couples counseling. I like both of them individually and think they are both at fault individually.

On LKL last night i heard the most reasonable explanation yet..Jon is in a depression..he sure looks like it..and kate is living her dream so she wants it to be Jon's dream too which is out of touch since each person has their own life dreams...and i doubt if Kate can change...her controlling and demeaning attitude seem ingrained...anyway...i hope they both get the help they need and it would be nice if the paps left them alone to sort this out...that is unlikely though!!!

I felt like a voyeur watching the last episode and won't watch again.

I think Jon is one of the most laziest, self-consumed, pity-party men I've ever seen. He needs to grow a pair. Jon walks around like a wounded puppy with his tail between his legs. He needs to grow up and be a man. Who buys a 2-door sports car with 8 kids and a wife?!?!?! Who has time to hang out at 2:00 am with another woman when he has 8 kids and a WIFE while apparently the babysitter is at home watching HIS kids??? Jon is not a saint in this situation nor did Kate drive him away. He wants to be a "kid" and Kate has been put in the situation of being the parent to their children as well as Jon. I like Kate and don't think she is a *itch at all. Kate appears to be the only logical one of the two. I think alot of you are being extremely harsh on her. If your life were being viewed by millions of people weekly, would you be phony or real for the cameras? Damned if they do and damned if they don't!!

Sorry to say it, but. . .
Watching a family disintegrate should not be considered "entertainment." Yes, they agreed to put their lives on TV, but that doesn't mean you should watch it. Just keep in mind that anytime you pick up a people magazine or watch an E news extra, you are contributing to this horror show. You are creating the need for the networks and the paparazzi to continue hounding this family unil it explodes for your viewing pleasure. Your infatuation with celebrities and everything they do will now ruin the lives of 8 children. Hope you are all proud of yourselves.
Sick. . . .

I used to watch the show because of the kids. They are so cute! I stopped watching it because of Kate and Jon's relationship. She is horrible to him and as a wife I found it difficult to watch. I watch a few minutes of the season premier. You can tell Jon doesn't want to do the show any longer. He was not very happay and probably hasn't been for a while. I think Kate feels she is doing what is best for her family, but in reality she isn't. Money and material things aren't everything. Cancel the show, work on you marriage (if that what you want to do), put the kids in school, and get regualr 9-5 jobs. I think you will be much happier.

I guess money is the root for all evil.

Ok come on enough with Jon and Kate. I;m so sick and tired of hearing about them. They should have never had a show of there own to begin with. I think it's ridiculus that just because they had eight kids they got there own show. They're not any better than anyone else that's trying to raise there families. The only reason there doing the show is for the money and you can't tell me it's not howelse could they afford all them kids.Last thing as far as I;m concerned I think there both guilty of cheating just look at them so I say if they both cheated than they need to figure out how to fix things and keep there family together they both srewed up now they need to fix it.

First reason-right from the start, just from the promos, Kate seemed like she had a nasty bitchy attitude; I may be wrong but that was the impression I got. That in of itself turned me off from the show.

Second reason-I am a devout Catholic who abides by the Church’s teaching that IVF is immoral, as “cute” as those kids are, I cannot condone the way she got pregnant.

Third reason-the “alleged” infidelity charges by Jon is just plain adultery (one of the big top 10 sins) no matter what the reason.

I have never watched the show and now I know I never will…not even the promos. Friends, please do what I did and contact TLC and request that the show be taken off the air until this “mess” gets straightened out. If they do divorce, well then that’s the end of the series anyway.

Anyhow give me The Duggers any day! God bless Michelle, Jim-Bob and their 18 kids (and counting)!

BTW I also love the Roloffs too! The farm sort of looks like New England, West.

Boring...I thought this show was about the hardships of raising multiples...now it seems as if this is a show about a bad marriage. Time to move on America...it is in our hands as viewers. For the sake of the children PLEASE STOP WATCHING and maybe the network (TLC) will listen!

I agree with skrauss – I watched because is was light hearted and cute (cringing every once in a while at Kate's emasculation of Jon).
But I tuned in every week, because it was refreshing and different from the normal crap that T.V. offers – now it is too depressing to watch. so I will not tune in, life is difficult at best, I do not need to be reminded how selfish people can be.
I do wish them luck, but it is time to "CUT" & "RAP" no one needs to be exposed to the failure of this marriage, especially their children, adn filming it for posterity! what a crock.

Jon & Kate have a contract with TLC–they cannot quit. It looks like this season has already been filmed–hasn't anyone seen the previews for the upcoming weeks?? My girls and I love to watch their show and we hope that their show continues for many more years–we feel like we know them. I am sad that they are having marital problems and hope they can work thru them not just for the kids, but for themselves. They are real people with real feelings–all the naysayers need to get a life!!

I enjoyed watching the show for a number of years and thought it was quite refreshing to see a large family work together as one unit. If the whole pressure of being on a reality show is becoming such a problem, I think it is time to step back and just focus on becoming a whole family again. I do hope and pray that both of them find that common ground again for each other and their children.

I watched many of the shows from the previous seasons but did not watch the new season. I could not come up with a reason to watch Kate be her usual passive agressive self. I had forgotten how totally disrespectful she is to her husband. The name calling and knock downs. Kate if that is the only way you validate yourself, then honey you need some therapy.
Whether or not they have cheated with others is none of our business. They will have to answer to their Maker when it is time. Until then, get back to church and start loving your children again.
I will pray for them, but not watch the show anymore.
HEY JON AND KATE – BENDED KNEE IS WHERE YOU NEED TO BE..

Actually, it was Jon who appeared like man much too young already going through a mid-life crisis, with his Ray Bans and that very expensive looking car he drove up to the B-Day party in (ummmmmm, wonder where the $$$ came from to purchase that?). It is always difficult and sad when a marriage is in trouble, and from both Kate's and Jon's comments from the earlier shows – they want what they want for their family. Maybe the producers should get them to watch the reruns and see the difference that it appears everyone in the public is seeing from this once-terrific, family fun, adorable kids and funny situations show. I agree with another blogger below, saying that 'they won't want a family fall apart for entertainment' – dido to that!!!

"That’s why she’s staying on….
They ARE thinking of the kids…"

YOU ARE A SHEEPE..........KATE CANT STAND PEOPLE LIKE YOU, IT IS WHY SHE NOW HAS A BODYGUARD. SHE IS AFRAID HER"SHEEPE FANS" WILL TOUCH HER.

Let these people get a job!!! It is THEIR fault they have 8 kids, dummy!!!

That show is unbelievable, Kate is out to get what ever she can. No normal parent would want cameras following your eight children around, but if that is what it takes to get Kate what she wants then is ok.

Seriously, why do any of you care. Pay attention to your own lives. If you don't like the show, turn off the tv. Simple as that.

I went home and watched this daily. I can't watch anymore. They should put off filming until whatever is over. Where is their faith? They always claimed to be guided by the Lord. They should forgive adn recomit themselves to God.

I won't be watching the show anymore because its so far from what it started out to be. These parents are frustrated at the public scrutiny, I'm sure, but you take the good with the bad. They don't like the paparazzi because its an uncontrolled variable, but they have allowed another set of cameras into their homes constantly for years. Jon's a good father and Kate hasn't treated him well on camera for a long time. Pointing out your spouse's weight issue or hair loss is humiliating and degrading. She may be a good mom but its obvious this show is no longer "all about the kids" as she puts it. And it was clear from the premier interviews that they're not in love with the idea of repairing the marriage. Its more about who's the better parent. Shameful behavior when bringing up babies.

You could see this coming with Kate. You can definitely tell she has a "staff" helping her. She has the nerve to go for pedicures while two other women fold and put away her laundry? She has 8 children and then gets dogs? A non-tv-star mother wouldn't have those options. And she doesn't like the "P-people"? That's why she's dressed to the hilt and made up and hair done constantly? She is completely bothered with her kids and her husband and everyday "normal" life. She's selfish, snotty, rude, condescending – and needs to get knocked down a few pegs.

Jon, dump her. Hire a nanny...the nanny will give those kids more love and attention than their mother does.

Please boycott TLC until this network realizes that the "learning channel" should be about more than having a family with too many kids. I sincerely hope TLC goes bankrupt and off the air for putting this crap on TV.

This was one of my favorite shows but it is so sad to see what it has become. John needs to get a job and support his family and Kate needs to put her husband first. The kids will be taken care of but if Kate had her priorities in order, drama would not follow them nor would the show.

Everyone is so quick to judge sometimes...but with 8 kids the money would run out fast. Back to clipping coupons and moving into a smaller house with just 3 bedrooms for all 10 of them. I guess that is what people want. I guess everyone wants them on welfare.

I, for one, emplore them. It'll cost a lot of money for them to continue to take care of these kids and they do it now on their own steem. With no help from the government. The show doesn't have many seasons left...then it would probably turn into an annual update, or something like that....so why not rake in the dough now so that they'll have it.

Do you know how expensive college is for 1 child? Try putting 6 through college all at the same time with no breaks in between. They'll either have to be really smart or really athletic, with no money.

Neither one is perfect, but is your family perfect? if it is than tell me the reciepee for success b/c I'd really like to know what perfect is?

Seems like she enjoys the attention she has been getting from the paparatzi...I noticied in the show that she mentioned them quite often, even to her children....5 year olds dont know from thses things but she made it a point to make their presence known to her children....There followed by cameras constantly so you think she would play it smart and not acknowledge the negative presence of the papz and just let the children think its people just taking pictures. They domt need to be exploited or exposed to those things. Also it's very obvious that she has always come across as a demanding and controlling person with her husband, as if the presure of all those children at his age isnt enough ...he then has to deal with a woman constantly nagging him! Clearly her appearance has changed dramatically as well and she seems to be quite materialistic these days. She isnt unique in any sense aside from her children, other then that she a wife and a mother and should stop running around in limmos and with body guards looking like a nock off posh spice and start behaving like a loving wife and mother again. She puts up a good front but all in all she's become self absorbed and needs to get over herself.

Has anyone noticed that Kate walks around in heels on the hardwood floors in her new house but the kids still have to take off their shoes? She mentioned recently that wearing heels makes her look skinnier...guess she can break her own rules if it makes her look better! Also, I've always thought there was some level of disfunction in their household because her parents aren't involved with the grandchildren AT ALL and neither is Jon's mother. Something is not quite "right" with this family, even though the kids are adorable.

Man, most everyone on here is a hater! Give them a break! They started this show when they had 8 children, 6 of which were newborns. Kate had to quit her job and they were struggling financially. How could they have turned down such an opportunity? Anyone on here is lying if they say they wouldn't have done the same. Hmm struggle to support the family or do a show for a respected cable channel and earn money and the opportunity to be with the kids more? Hard decision!

Kate has said in interviews that she wrote the book for herself and her kids, not for the fans. But they chose to buy them and have enjoyed them. You can't blame her for going out there and doing tours. It's in demand! So she has to go on trips now and then. Sounds like any mother with any job that requires travel!

I feel bad that Kate is always getting bashed. They said from the start they weren't going to hide anything from the viewers. They were going to act like they always do and not put on a show for cameras. You have never belittled or yelled at your spouse? Even if you have regretted it later (which I am sure Kate does not always like how she acts on the show) you have all done it! You just weren't caught on camera for all to see! We should commend them for being real. I have always felt that Jon & Kate were a good match because she is so extorverted and controlling while Jon is more laid-back and introverted.

I love the show and thought the premiere was very sad. It is inevitable that a divorce is coming. I just wish that things could have turned out differently. You don't see paparazzi following the Little People, Big World family or getting in the Table for Twelve family's business. Since when did marital problems become so interesting and newsworthy?

You gotta admit, eithert way, they are much more interesting than the Duggars!

Wondering if TLC notices that Kate can't talk without everyother word being um?

I think it is just a way to make money for the couple. It is a shame that the show is more about making money that entertainment value.

This is why America is becoming a 3rd world contry. Everything that is wrong, America in it's un-ethical, and immoral ways, fine some way to justify things to be right. Having 8 kids is serious business, but these people are making it into a soap opera. feel sorry for the country...

Being a parent of 3 kids – I really enjoyed watching the show purely for the comic relief of what their daily life is like raising 8 kids. After last night I came away feeling sad of what the kids daily life is now like watching them ask Daddy why he isn't around as much and watching Kate paying more attention to the photographers in the parking lot than getting the kids out of the van!

Really sad.

I watched the season premier like many and the whole atmosphere of the show has changed. Kate is all about Kate, (still). When she reached down and gave each child a "birthday kiss", resonated wrong with me. It looked like she was getting a one upsmanship on her husband, Jon. I feel sorry for this husband. It's obvious he is not comfortable with this reality show, and his unhappiness is apparant to all. I agree with many viewers that when they were starting out in a small home, with their large family, many of us could identify with them. Without this TLC show, how will they continue their upscale lifestyle?

When Kate said that they very swiftly became two different people, I think it would be more accurate to say that she is the one who has undergone the largest change. He has had to adapt to the ramifications of that change, which probably has not been easy or pleasant, and he has probably acted out in otherwise uncharacteristic ways. Since the fall, she appears to be a completely different person. She seemed to suddenly become a real diva. From that point, I was leery of watching each following episode. And as I feared, each became more depressing, negative, and filled with tension than the one before.

I think that she is no longer able to accept him the way he is (and probably was hoping he'd become something he isn't or that she'd eventually change him into what she wanted), and I don't think he accepts her the way she is now or the consequences of her new life on their marriage and family. In the single video clip I saw, his body language and demeanor seem to imply that he is done. I think they have turned some corner and are unable to find a middle ground. I do not believe that he is interested in continuing the marriage if it also means continuing the craziness they've now got to deal with. Although I have no doubt he loves the kids or that this has been a painful time him (and both of them), I think he would rather just be the father of 8 children living a real life in anonymity – even if that means sometimes struggling financially – rather than being some reality show pseudo-celebrity dad person who is followed day and night by predatory leaches insatiably hungry for another ounce of his family's blood (paparazzi). If living in relative peace means moving on, I think he will do it. He seemed resigned in the video clip I saw to just working out the details of how he and Kate will continue to parent separately.

My sense is that a major change will come soon and what used to be Jon & Kate + 8 will no longer exist. It is very sad, and I won't be watching. Unlike those who thrive on controversy and conflict, I am one who takes no pleasure in watching a train wreck in progress. I wish them all the best...most of all the children.

They definitely need to focus on their relationship and STOP THE FILMING! I'm not watching it any more. Kate is so full of herself – she's off doing her "job"? She's off promoting herself and exploiting her children. She should be focusing on her marriage first. That's what brought her the show and financial freedom. As someone else already stated. Your husband doesn't want to do it anymore. Listen!

anyone that watches this show really doesn't have a family life of their own.

I have watched this show from day one. The new season was nothing like the shows in the past. It was "quite" apparent that Jon wasnt there to help set up for the bday as he was (away for the weekend or few days). When he did show up at the party they both avoided eye contact and there was clearly a wall present between them. Being on the couch has "always" been together which was only showed a few times, and they didnt even look at each other. Both agreed to be there for the kids, but neither would make the comment of being there for kate or for jon. Sadly this marriage proably wont last and the ones who suffer will be the kids. I wonder if they do break up who will pay the enormous child support payments? (has jon thought about that?) Oh, i am sure TLC will pay for it then like everything else.

I agree with Mrs. JF Lynch – seeking profit from having the children, exploiting them to the public purely for financial gain. You know they are paid an extreme amount of money per episode; so to you Jon and Kate: Take the good with the bad – you're obviously taking the money – if you don't like all the media attention, the STOP FILMING YOUR SHOW. GO OUT AND GET JOBS LIKE EVERYONE ELSE IN AMERICA!

I don't understand how everyone can possibly say that Kate mistreats Jon because if I had 8 kids and the responsibility that goes along with it, I would get pretty cranky too and he should fully understand that because it makes him cranky also. In the beginning, Jon wasn't the one staying at home with the kids all day when they were much smaller and required a lot more attention. He has spoken many times about how appreciative he is of Kate and her ability to keep everything in perspective. He has mentioned that he couldn't/wouldn't want to do it. So..., if Kate has been moody at times – God bless her!!! She handles everything and is able to keep things in order much better than I or the majority of the women in the world could/would.

I read where somebody said that Kate has directed all of her attention toward the kids and not her husband – excuse me!! If a person has that many kids that are dependent on them, their top priority isn't going to be their husband who is capable of taking care of himself. They should be in this together and Jon has never totally applied himself like Kate has. Jon needs to grow up and take on his responsibilities and stop whining so much. If he didn't walk around acting like he has no clue whats going on half the time, she wouldn't have to tell him what to do. He doesn't have near the stress on him that Kate has had the past five years and even admits it. He is very disrespectful to Kate on the show too and to be honest, I don't see how she has tolerated him, I don't think I could. He doesn't take the bull by the horns, he has to be instructed on when and how to do things. He is a carbon copy of most males that I know.

As for the show, I think it is great that they have had the opportunity of a lifetime. If I was ever given the opportunity to have a reality show, I would do it in a heartbeat. The problems that they are having are problems that their kids will be exposed to all throughout life. The divorce rate is so high, its pathetic! If they stay together, their kids are always going to have friends, etc... that will experience the same thing they are going through. Its life!!! This is a reality show and their problems are reality in a nutshell!! The way they handle things and the experiences they go through may help many other kids and families that are in the same situation. This is a family oriented show and living a perfect life gives the viewers the wrong impression of what family life really entails. It is hard and there are many, many, hurdles and obstacles along the way but just because parents divorce doesn't mean that everyone's lives are in jeopardy. I just think this is being blown way out of proportion and I think people should just leave them alone.

Honestly I'm surprised Jon didn't cheat sooner- imagine living with that woman 24/7! No it's not right, but he just wants to be treated like an actual person. I feel bad for the children- Mady definitely has anger issues and they will all need therapy!

It was pretty obvious from that episode that their marraige is beyond fixing. It looked like they had given up; they didn't even talk to each other. It was heartbreaking when one of the girls asked Jon not to go away anymore. Giving up the show and spending time together won't even fix that marriage.

I agree!!! There is a time to take a step back and take a good hard look at everything. Maybe it won't help, but maybe it will! She says in the interview that marriages with multiple births have a high rate of not making it, then why would you put yourself into a situation that could make it worse, did she think that being on TV would make the relationship stronger???? I have a feeling that this woman has always been overbearing as far as her husband is concerned. She has always made it known that she wears the pants in the family. You can tell by Jon's body language that he is just done. These parents OWE it to these children to stop all of this nonsense and end all of it!!!!!

I use to watch almost every show on TLC. It seemed as if TLC programming was made just for my tastes; until recently. I'm saddened and disappointed at their choice to continue to air Jon & Kate +8. America has enough disintegrating families, we don't need to see it happen on TV. Their choices have created these problems, but the media is only magnifying them. Someday Jon & Kate's children will watch the episodes and need even more therapy then they already do.

If TLC is willing to contribute to the destruction of a marriage and family, and harm the emotional well being of the children involved, then none of us should watch TLC programming any more. If enough of us viewers quit watching, they'll realize this isn't what people have come to like and expect from TLC. And HOPEFULLY it will let Jon and Kate get back to focusing on healing their family.

I'm not so sure this is all truth or a publicity stunt. It seems strange to me that all the marriage trouble happened just before the new season and Kate's book. Are they afraid they are losing popularity, after all there are larger families out there and on television and want to ensure interest in them continues and the pay check keeps rolling in

I thinks it it very possible this is all a SHAM that we are all buying
and if not I am digusted with them to put their kids through this public hell. They should quit the show

I think that we as viewers/fans have lost sight of what's important, just as the Gosselins have. What started out as a great way to fund college for them, and a lighthearted and innocuous look into the lives of awesome kids for us, has slowly spiraled into something dark with lasting implications for those kids. We didn't see it coming any more than the Gosselins did, but I think that it's time to reel it all back in with the benefit of hindsight. The loving thing to do is to stop watching.

If the media would leave them the HE*L ALONE-- It might not be as bad. they are on a TV show– great.... things happen- Media always hypes up stuff and creates rumors- you can't believe everything you hear.

Didn't this family receive government assistance (Medicaid) while their children were premies? Wonder how much that ran the taxpayer? Perhaps they should think about using some of their new millions to payback and help other families who aren't making money exploiting their children.

Jon and Kate married very young and had their 8 children by the time they were 27 and 29 years old. They never really learned to build a life together first. As our financial advisor said, "There are two things that can ruin a marriage- money and kids." Add the problems of criticism and lack of privacy that come with being on a reality show, and you have a recipe for trouble. Kate is paddling the boat and Jon has been mostly along for the ride. With so many kids, it IS stressful just to get through each day and with another adult-child (her husband) to manage and direct as well, it has taken a toll. Jon helps out but does not plan or direct the activities that the family does – it is all up to Kate to plan everything and see that it happens.
I do believe their problems are real and they need counseling. Jon is a fool to put their show and the resulting money that has made their life comfortable at risk with his childish behavior. Grow up, Jon !!!

With 8 kids almost the same age I can imagine that life can be very difficult. Add being infront of the camera almost 24/7 and you never have time to be alone together. Life can be very hard when alone time is missing.

That being said Kate has become a shrew lately and should be on Bridzillas instead of Jon and Kate plus eight. Jon doesn't get off that easily though. His support for his spouse and a back bone when it comes to dealing with his childern might help.

Kate is not so great, neither as a mom nor as a date, and especially if she's running late! Watched this showed three times, and finally refused a fourth as this woman made me want to puke. What a diva, Jon you should have left her a long time ago. She isn't all that, kick her to the curb and move on with your life. She's an ingrate, OCD, obnoxious, bitchy bossy whiny baby. Talk about Women without Borders... she needs some boundaries and some reality. Poor kids, having to live their life in front of a camera so mommy can have her money and pretend to be the boss queen.

Give Jon some respect, care and attention. You're such a loser Kate. And the sooner he loses you the better... I'd like to see you even come close to finding another man that would put up with 8 kids screaming 24/7 while he has your lack of emotional support.

Ugh, think I'll go puke now....

I've never watched the show and, quite honestly, never will. I don't see how either of the two parents can look themsleves in the mirror each day as they exploit their kids for the almighty dollar. I could care less about their marriage, but you know that their kids are far more likely to have issues in their lives as a result of this stupid TV show.

I watched the season opener last night. Interesting. I have no doubt that Jon & Kate love each other at some level, but I also have no doubt they are not IN love with one another any longer. True love doesn't treat/talk to one another the way these two do. The disrespect these two level at one another makes me cringe. Jon & Kate would do well to take a few lessons from the Duggars.

One last thing, people watch "reality" shows to watch confrontations and controversy. Right? Knowing this, what parent would put their kids on a "reality" show. Viewers love to watch people get their 15 minutes of fame ripped away from them as their stars fall. So now these two nitwips' stars are falling and they're bringing their kids along for the ride. Is anyone actually shocked?

"Themsleves" and "nitwips".... I should have used spellcheck.

I think that Jon and Kate are in pain and should be left alone to take back their life. I understand that they needed to do the show and we all thank them for sharing their lifes with us, but they are obviously in pain. They both are in this marriage and it will take both of them to get it back on track. People laying blame isn't going to help them at all. I lived in a divorced family setting at about the same age as their children and it is sad and confusing for the children. I pary that God will help them during this time. People stop putting them down, it isn't helping.

Holy crap, who cares, I can't even believe I'm actually commenting on something this stupid. The vapid morons that watch these shows are responsible for the pinpoint focus on this stupid B.S. I hope all of your relationships crumble to bits and become national news, see how you like it then.

What's more important? Family? Is Money most important?

I would respect Jon and Kate if they could put thier millions to use and generate that cash in a healthier way. Instead of Kate going off and pimping her kids; her and Jon should open up businesses that will benefit Babies/Young Children/Young Teens; in some way shape or form.
If they put thier heads together, they wouldnt even need the show!
Heck, for all I know, Kate can even come out with a clothing line and/or a baby furniture business.

Anything but pimping out her children and putting thier faces and names out there!!!!

Perhaps, Jon and Kate wouldnt have to live underneath this microscope anymore. They can go about thier personal and business relationships; without having to do it underneath this HUGE microscope!!!!!

But, first and foremost, the pair of them need to get back to basics and focus on FAMILY; rather than MONEY!!!!! .

I hope things work out for Jon and Kate and the kids. From what I've read Kate seems more interested in keeping the cameras around than Jon. I think that's a mistake. The money is the trap but how can one refuse when they're raising 8? Plus with the sextuplets getting closer to going to pre-school, it would seem now is the time to wind down the show and get back to a normal life, as normal as a family of ten can be. Both Jon and Kate are to blame, as they've admitted: one is passive and the other is agressive. Hopefully both can meet in middle and give and take. My family and I pray for them.

Can I point something out here? My husband and I consider ourselves "normal". We both have full time jobs and we have two kids. Financial security/stability is constantly on our minds and the cause of almost all serious discussions and disagreements we have. I can't imagine how much of an issue it must be or has been for the Gosselins. There are 8 little mouths to feed at every meal. There are 8 pairs of shoes, 8 bookbags, 8 snowsuits, 8 wardrobes, 8 of everything to buy at each occasion. Imagine Christmas and back to school, for example! That requires a lot more money that 2 individuals can make by working "regular jobs". Now I know having this many kids was partly in their control and was their decision to make. But, c'mon... All of you parents out there would have made the same decision. I know I would have!

These people have opened their home and their family to us, the viewers. And while I know they have benefited from that, I think we owe them more than this. We, the fans of Jon & Kate Plus 8, have also benefited from it. We have fallen in love with those kids. I have "known" them for longer than I have known my own 20-month-old son... They are honorary members of our family. And we, of theirs. It is the relationship this show has created. Now, it seems that Jon wants us out. In a certain way, I can't blame him. Having those cameras (film crews or paparazzi) in your face ALL the time? I don't think I would like that either. But on the flip side, I can understand why the show must go on. If I think it through with the maternal side of my brain, I would have made the same decision as Kate. These kids all need to be fed, dressed, educated, etc... No "normal" job will allow Jon & Kate to see to their kids' needs. That TLC paycheck is their security blanket. It is what is allowing them to live the way they are living (even if it is a little lavish for my liking) and will allow them to see to their children's future. As for the kids and their chance at a normal childhood, it's a little (or a lot) too late for that. These kids have 7 siblings in 2009... Not exactly the norm, right? Their childhood would not be normal either if their parents couldn't afford to feed them. Either way, these kids are not in for a "normal" ride. And, really, what is normal? In this day and age of families with two moms or single parents or families with two sets of parents, what is normal? Don't get me wrong... There is nothing wrong with the evolution of the family. Two moms, two dads, or one of each, a family is defined by the relationship, the bond that is formed between individuals. It doesn't have to be the typical father, mother, children in the house behind the white picket-fence with a dog in the backyard to work, to be healthy. It has to be a nourishing, loving, comfortable place to be. Family is home. I think that the Gosselins, until very recently, had that. Their were family, there were each other's homes.

I truly hope that the latest developments work themselves out. I think Jon and Kate need to talk and listen to each other. We may not have 8 kids but we all have our issues as couples and the only solution is to talk to each other. I'm sure every couple (married or not, straight or not) can agree that we all face times and situations that make us want to run, to give up. Only we can't... We're family. And family members to give up on each other!

I have been following the show for years. I have also been reading many of the pots here....and I think 1 person nailed it...Beth – I love nearly everything you wrote!

I am tired of everyone blaming Kate for everything. What John did or didn't do is between them. It is for them to decide what they they need to do with their marriage and tv show. They are human, they make mistakes. I think people might not be so quick to post all these nasty hate-filled comments if they had a tv crew and p-people following them around.

Their motives for doing this show are theirs. It was even mentioned that they would've never been able to go to Diney World or skiing or to Hawaii without this show. The show has provided positives and negatives to their lives. At this point they will have to weigh their options and consider what works best for them...regardless of what everyone on these posts who act like they know everything and like life is so simple thinks.

Life is complicated, especially when you have a sudden large family. If you have had sextuplets AND a set of twins, then please, let us all know what the Gosselins are doing wrong according to your infinate wisdom...everyone else...get over it! Quit casting stones.

I use to really like the show. Too many things have changed with the dynamics of the family. They have lost focus about what is important. Where is Aunt Jodi and Beth, who always were there for them? I have made my decision NOT TO WATCH THE SHOW any more. I will take that time to spend it with my husband and family .....otherwise known as quality time. Take the show off the air so the Gosselin's can spend quality time together. Too much drama for me. You reap what you sow.

These 2 put a a Christian book displayed in Christian book stores and other book stores, but all of the Christian book stores need to pull it off the shelf and let the secular book stores have it seeing the real secular them have surfaced- there are always people like them that try to take advantage of the Christian community to reap profit.

I read all these negative comments and it makes me sick. The reality is that Jon and Kate are having serious problems in their relationship. I'm sure ideally, they would LOVE to end the show, but then how are they going to survive? Kate is a stay at home mom now, even if she was to return to nursing, I doubt her income would cover child care for 8 children and if Jon returned to work, his income would have to cover all the bills plus a mortgage for their house...I'm sorry but it would be pretty tough to make ends meet plus the children would NEVER see their parents. I'm not saying that the TV show is a good thing for the family, but it is probably better than never seeing their parents, who will be even further strained...

Also, to those who are making personal attacks at Jon, Kate or any of the children: you do NOT know them. Television can make anyone seem a certain way. You are only seeing a portion of someone's life. So calm down!

Kate Gosselin's behavior is appalling. she henpecks her husband to death and has the nerve to complain about "media intrusion"when they're putting it t there and exploiting their cgildren this way. I find it difficult to care about this couple of unfit parents. Then she whines about the pressure. She did it to herself. Real pressure is not having a way to pay the bills. That tiresome olddried-fried-and-pushed-to-the-side hag doesn't know the meaning of the word.Real pressure is being shot in the head in your own home and being rendered unable to resume your career as an editor. I would know. Of course, I'm not a brood mare exploiting her progeny!Nor would I e. My children would mean more than that.

Can anyone name one couple, celebrity or otherwise, who agreed to have their lives taped for us to watch who is still married or isn't having some troubles with their relationship? Jessica Simpson – Divorced, Brittany Spears – Divorced, Carmen Electra – Divorced, Hulk Hogan – Big fat ugly divorce, kid in jail, hoochie daughter parading her stuff....Even Tori Spelling and her husband seem to be having some problems based on the previews I have seen for their new season.

Shannon
Central VA

I am a big fan of the show, and I have truly loved watching those beautiful kids grow up. I don't want to stop watching it, but I will have no choice if the show now centers primarily around Jon and Kate's marital issues. They are both not perfect, and marriage is a full time job. If they really have any desire to make the marriage work, stop the show for at least the time it takes to get the counseling they need. If the answer ends up being divorce, which is sad, then they need to stop the show and deal with this privately. I would hate to see any of them benefit financially on the premise of a broken marriage. Sometimes fame can be costly, and I think Kate is seeing this now and realizing maybe some of the things that were done in addition to the show (e.g. Magazine spreads, talk show appearances, writing books and book signings) were maybe not the best choices to have made, but I am not in her shoes. Now is the time for them to seclude themselves from the public eye and deal with this in private. My blessing and prayers to you all, especially those 8 beautiful children.

Oh my goodness, who cares!? Is this really on CNN? Really? This is sick. Stop watching the show and maybe their lives can go back to normal....Boo to TLC for running this show, bad form

Okay, the show needs to be over now. This should now be a private family matter, for the respect and protection of the children. What is really important here is a focus on trying to keep the family unit together. Especially for the sake of the kids someone needs to step in and make an ethical decision to stop exposing the lives of these children to the public at such a sensitive time.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!!!!

It's all a publicity stunt. The original purpose of the show was to show a normal family coping with 8 kids. Now that neither of them work, they live in a million dollar home, go on book tours and have hired help to take care of the kids, they are resorting to tabloid techniques to lure in viewers. It seems to be paying off right now, but it will be short-lived. Once everyone gets bored with the did he/didn't he routine, ratings will take a nose dive.

Was I the only person watching the show with both eyes and ears open? All weekend there were repeat episodes where Jon does not do much and he is like another kid having to take direction don't blame all on Kate he said it once himself their marriage worked due to her organization which balance his short comings or words to that effects wish this episode was played of course not, was it not jon which was obsessed about himself all along his weight, his baldness, no matter what kate is not perfect I agree, but hello HE got caught! there are pictures of him, don't see any of kate other than her walking with body guard behind him, what wife out there would be ok with her husband having "female friend" in bikini at her house (was he not bragging he watches kids while she travels?) did not see any kids while he was chillin with his "friend" also again what wife would be ok with husband out at bars while she is out of town and he is supposed to be the parent to be with kids, which one of you wifes out there would be ok with having another woman drive your man's new car which he paid for obviously with money he earned from also exploiting his children right? I don't see Kate buying a small sports car for herself or did i miss that episode, finally let me add was jon drunk or was is just his sunburn from having weekend off prior to the kids bday party, again great timing and how many times did he make comments about how hard he has it or lord forbid his kids google "HIM" common America....Kate ok OCD call her whatever would you not be a bit or a lot nutty for her working her butt off for the family...he needs to take responsibility for his actions he is choosing "opt out" as he states when she was shown going out of town again...oh he is so pittiful he is in jail, but got away for the weekend while she tackled going to store with 8 kids she did everything for the party and he gripped he had to pick up cakes give me a break when will everyone realize he is a total jerk! But unfortunately he is those babies father so my prayers that it all gets worked out for the kids sanity.....

I am a fan of this show and have loved watching it over the last year. There was a point where you could tell Jon no longer wanted to have their whole lives taped. This is where the show should have been wrapped up. When both parents are no longer in agreement that this is good for the kids and the family. If they are not in it together then they they should back out.

The kids deserve to be protected from parents who exploit their children...we need laws in place not just for the Gosselin kids but for all minors filmed in the privacy of their own homes and broadcast across airwaves for entertainment.

I think the marriage is doomed. Ironically, these children probably will not have any independent memory of the time in which their parents lived together as a family. Consequently, they're going to have to rely on the television show to remember what their family was like. And it was the television show that ultimately destroyed it.

Sad, sad, sad.

I am sad about this. Not that any of this is our business. It hurts to see that as a couple they say they go to church and are Christians. The one thing I have learned and was important to restoring my own family was that: The Man is the head houshold and the wife should honor her husband respectfully. I don't see this at all. What happens to this family is their business and we can only pray that the children are not hurt in anyway. Neither parent should apologize to the public!!!! Nor should they be speaking to the public about each other's dirty laundry. We all have enough problems of our own and have no right to comment or feel we need to participate. This includes the cameras, media: Stop the show and get back to church for the benefit of the FAMILY!!! This nation needs to remember that GOD is first and then FAMILY!!!!

It is time for Jon and Kate, especially Kate, to put the tv show aside and concentrate on what is important – the kids. They have gotten enough freebies. It is time to get back to what should be their focus – getting the family back to a healthy place. When it is all said and done, and the attention goes away, ( and it will ), all they have is the family. They would do good to remember that.

Leave these poor people alone, don't get me wrong I love the show and think that the kids are adorable but its not like all of you other commenters have never had a fight with your spouse or signifigant other.They are just trying to not scare the kids, if they sent the cameras aways just like that then the kid's lifes would change dramatically. Give them a chance to tell their side of the story and not judge either of them at least untill you have heard that!

I watched the repeat episode last evening of the much anticipated J&K+8 season opener – all I can say is, it is one thing to watch a train wreck when it involves two adults w/painful decisions to make wrt their marriage, but for TLC to continue to display this show is appalling – there is no amount of money (on the part of J&K) or ratings (on the part of TLC) that makes this worthwhile.

The station call letters, "TLC" stand for "The Learning Channel" – i ask myself, what are we "Learning" from this? I think all I am learning is that there is a lack of creative writers out there to develop non reality shows (i.e., solid plot centered dramas, mysteries, or really humorous sitcoms) and an overabundance of networks who discovered that real tradgedy sells and it cost less than talent. Don't those same letters stand for "Tender, Loving, Care"? I think in reference to the latter, that is what should be applied to this situation – somebody please think of these kids and the two people who had them and take this show off the air so some type of healing can begin. It won't happen w/millions of train wreck mentality viewers watching that's for sure. Count me out of this tradgedy.

What sealed their fate in my eyes, was the rushing down to Hawaii to get remarried. WHEN THEY shared that moment with their children, and the video cameras, they sealed their fate. BRAGGERS never win.

Jon didnt want to do this season– he made it quite clear during the last episode of last season. Kate is forcing him and that is why the marriage is crumbling. He doesn't want to be on tv anymore and Kate knows that. Kate is just another victim of greed and fame. She is putting money first, not her family. She also acts like it was Jon's actions that began this turmoil. No Kate, it was the SHOW,quit denying it. Jon may have screwed up being out partying but I highly doubt that would cause all he** to break loose. Jon, she's not treating you right and she is exploiting your babies! Stand up for them! Also, she keeps going on about how this is her job blah, blah, blah well she could go back to work as a NURSE!

I swear, if I hear one more person say they have to do this show to feed the kids, I will scream. They are not hurting for money. If they were, Kate wouldn't be sporting $300 Cole Haan shoes, $350 Stuart Weitzman shoes, $400 bags and Dior sunglasses.

Give me a fricken break! Jon and Kate....get jobs like everyone else, bank what you've earned so far and go away....far away. Please....

So what if they did it to support their kids? Shouldn't they have had a plan to support them before they decided to have so many babies? And yes, you can say that they are doing it to pay for college and things for the kids. I personally think college is a lame excuse. There are several different ways to pay for college, grants, scholarships, loans, working yourself. Oh no, if a child has to struggle a little bit to get something they want. That is what builds character, not "giving" your kids everthing they have always wanted or thought they wanted. I think the show is sad and pathetic. I am personally really sick of ALL the reality shows. I don't watch tv to see someone elses drama. And I think people on them have a real "look at me" complex.

They need the money. Why don't they use the time to show a couple getting counseling and rebuilding their marriage. Wouldn't that be a treat.

Plusssss everyone speaks of Kate's terrible behavior. John looks pretty sheeeeepish. He is guilty as sin and he's tired of being a father of 8 kids and I think that speaks volumes of where the trouble in this marriage lies. He is imature and a loser. Sorry John fans.

Kate: I understand you started the show as a means of support and income to give your kids the very best of everything. Any parent would do that. HOWEVER, your brought this all on yourself. You talk to your husband like he is your servant. He is NOT, he is your husband,and he has feelings!! He is a person!! No wonder he went out with his "friend", to get away from you!!You mean to say it never crossed your mind that people all over the country would see you and want to photograph you?? Come on!! You say your kids are your priority, you used the word "I" quite a bit on your season 5 premiere. Where is the we??? If your kids are that important to you, don't leave on books tours. Stop the show and put your family AND husband first!!

They are in it for the money and no different then OctoMom. The kids are cute but very undisciplined. Watch how they hit each other and fight constantly. Jon and Kate parade them from event to event just for money. Their doctor is unethical for transferring too many embryos. He put the kids and mother at risk. I wish they would just go away and not hear about them any more.

All that has come out of there mouths have been lies from the very beginning. When the show first started we were lead to believe that they didnt have a dime tho there name. But, in fact Jon had inherited over a million dollars from his father's estate. Kate said that once the kids were born she did all the work herself. In reality she had nurses from the state paid by medicaid to help her. Its just been one lie after another. I feel for the children. They need love and attention from there parents not the viewing public. Its makes me wonder even if the show was not on tv would they still be together in the first place.

Please...I've never seen this show because I could not imagine having my family life put on display like they do. For those of you who dont know...they make $75,000 PER show plus whatever other perks they get like free toys free hair implants, tummy tucks etc. The little I saw of the show she talks to him like he's one of the kids. I wish one of my kids would call me something other than mommy. I love my babies and nothing would have me away from them as much as she is. Money or not...if I had that many kids i'd find a way to provide for them finanically and emotionally. I remember food being on our table every night but what i dont remember is having loving parents. Thats what they'll remember.

I have been reading all the coments. Ya know, they are probably done filming alot of the new season. I know I have seen commercials for future shows with Emeril, Ace of Cakes from food network and one for the new movie with Ben Stiiler Night of something. Before I go any further I just want to say that there isn't anything wrong with Jon having a 2 seat car. I would be upset to see 1 person driving that big stupid van with the price of gas! For all we know SWEETNESS has a Porcha or something she drives when she out being a DIVA! TLC has played us all for fools and I refuse to watch anything on that channel. Sorry Stacy and Clinton. Did ya all see when Kate got her wedding dress on TLC'S say yes to the dress????? We all need to stop feeding the frenzy over these people.If we don't watch they will dissapear and maybe when the kids are 18 they will do a show and let us know how they feel about what their MOTHER did to them. Their father loves them and wants them to be normal. I HAVE TO AMEN ON THE HAIR.. SHE IS DEFINATLEY NO VICTORIA BECKHAM!!!

Angela Cormier Wrote: I’m sure ideally, they would LOVE to end the show, but then how are they going to survive?

Are you serious? They would survive like the rest of us, they would go out and get a job! Kate could continue to write books (why someone would want to buy them is beyond me) however it is time they end this TV series. I knew last season, poo was going to hit the fan when in the last episode Jon had basically had enough! They both are to blame for all the good and or bad press in these last few weeks, but if they both wanted it stopped, they get off the money wagon and get back on the real life wagon!

I turned into TLC's marathon of the show and I was taken how insecure Kate appeared with each episode. She would put Jon down to make herself look to be the better person. She would display jealousy when Jon and Cara went off on their special dad/daughter events. Kate would then compete to let us know what she had done with the kids who remained at home. I began to wonder about her childhood and what her parents must have inflicted on her to make her need to prove that she was a better parent, better television star than her mate. She put Jon down time and time again and via the TV screen it was very, very uncomfortable to watch, yet it pounced all over him, telling him that it was rude for him to interrupt her when she was talking on the set, never realizing that it was she who caused him to stop in his tracks whenever he tried to interject something. I give Jon credit for the times he did venture out on his own, on the slopes of Utah to the time he took Cara back there to enjoy their relationship. Kate is all about business, she has gone from a loving mom interested in her children's well-being to a commodity that is being viewed negatively by many of the show's audience. How she cannot see it is beyond me. Instead of running off to speaking engagements, what can she really offer anyone, she needs to stay at home with her kids, learn the reason why she is like she is and hope that she can regain something in her marriage. No one wants to see a family disintergrate, it is none of our business. Kate needs to realize that the needs of her family means more than going on to Season 5. TLC will bring them back if that is what THEY want, but the time to pull the curtain, concentrating on her children and family , is NOW.

My 10 year old son likes watching the show and he asks me why Kate disrespects jon. What am I to say? I am a feminist and I find Kate's behavior totally apalling. Give Jon the basic respect every human being deserves! You will certainly live to regret it. We can no longer watch the show because of kate's greed and arrogance. I can't believe I am saying this but Jon needs to take sometime off to regain his self esteem.

Those poor children are being swept aside. I was so sad when I watched the last episode, which will be my last. I think that if they were to show a two hour show once every 3 months, that would be great, we can all see the children grow etc. But at this point I do agree that the show should just be cancelled or they should walk away from it, for their children's sake. Kate is always saying the children first but it does not seem that way to me. I another comment, why do they always show the quad's birthday party, but not Cara and Maty? I think that Kate is kind of nuts.

Kate, I was probably one of the biggest fans of the show. I would TIVO the shows just so we could sit together as a family , with my own kids, to watch a good, wholesome, fun-loving show. But most of the comments are right. When you have trouble in your own life the last thing you need to do is air the problems on TV for all to see including your own children and no they won't be sheltered from this-they will soon hear from their own friends about their Mom and Dad and all the troubles. Please, for the sake of your children, take time with your kids, with Jon and with marriage counseling and prayer to fight for your family. Nothing good will come from a divorce...only continued heartache and fighting from you and Jon and rebellion from the kids. If you truly love your kids you must humble yourself and let God do the rest.

I personally think that kate is the big problem she treats her husband like a dog always slaps him if it were reveresed she would be the victim if they want their marriage to last they need to go get help and get out of the show business someone is leaking their whereabout to the paparazzi and that needs to be stopped the kids are unhappy and why should they be made to suffer because she money hungry she has changed since the first show it would seem she let the sucess go to her head dont exploit the kids anymore maybe we all should boycott the show.

Can anyone really raise a set of twins and a set of sextuplets without money from a tv show??? Kate had to quit her job to stay home with the kids and Jon only worked as an I.T analyst....probably not bringing home much money. So in my opinion we could watch them on tv or pay welfare for them.They are doing what good parents would do and setting their personal needs aside to make sure their kids have a good life.
And the show is called "Jon and Kate plus 8", not "8" so of course their is going to be focus on what Jon and Kate are doing. I think it would be nice for people to see how a couple with 8 kids goes through marriage problems. Hopefully it turns out for the best.

To all of you who keep saying "stop doing the show", it may not even be that simple. I'm sure that there are contracts involved - they may have been contractually obligated to do the amount of shows they've done. Trying to get out of it would likely involve a legal battle that no one would want.

None of us should deign to imagine what they're going through. None of us have put our lives on display like this, and none of us could possibly understand the pressure they're under to "perform" for TLC. The show started going downhill when the MEDIA decided they were a spectacle and started trailing them waiting for the other shoe to drop.

Plenty of parents have jobs and plenty of parents with jobs spend a lot of time away from their family in order to make a living. Not all of them do it in the public spotlight, and regardless of whether or not you think their choice to live in the spotlight is a good one, you probably haven't be in their shoes yourself. Not everyone has the luxury of having two stay-at-home parents to tend to their EIGHT children's every whim. People have to work.

They've even said in the show - the cameras are only there two or three days a week. They don't follow their every move; it is TLC's job to make it LOOK like they do. They've also noted on the show that there are certain areas of the house where the cameras are not allowed, like the twins' bedroom, the parents' bedroom, etc. One could argue that they're trying their best to maintain SOME facet of privacy despite TLC's efforts to make their life open to the public.

Bottom line: all of us make mistakes. All of us. There is not one person that has left a nasty comment on this board, I guarantee, that has not done something that they maybe shouldn't have. Not ONE of us is exempt from mistakes yet life in the public eye makes the Gosselins a target for scrutiny and judgement and it isn't fair to them or those beautiful children that every choice they make is evaluated by those of us that have absolutely no place to judge whatsoever.

Put yourself in their shoes, people - what would you do if you signed on to do a documentary of sorts for a well-respected TV network that promised to provide a future for the giant family you never thought you'd have, then one day found yourself facing down rumors (whether they're true or not), a media blitz, and strangers with cameras following your every move. You'd probably get a little bitter and cranky too.

If you don't like the way they live their life, don't live it. Or don't watch it. But don't judge them when you have no idea what it's like to be them.

That's my two cents.

For the love of God and your family, take a break from filming and do what matters, save the emotional well being of the children and preserve and rebuild your family.
Having multiples leaves very little room for me time, most parets know that, but it seems ther parents need some alone time ad the kids need their parents whole.
Katem after reading all the blogs, I THINK DR. PHIL NEEDS TO INTERVENE... and help Kate deal with some of what appears to be OCD , the debate is , yes there needs to be structure and order for things to function, but i do believe the publics perception and analysis, based on the comments here is that the 'structure' and 'control' are blending and causing an issue between the couple.
John, could and should hire caregivers , and return to his career. Most families with 2 or 3 use a nanna or caregiver to allow their careers to continue , allowing for that sense of 'accomplishment' .

Lastly, by nature most women are motherly and nurturing (BUILT THAT WAY), and it takes special men to really fill the role with one or 2 kids , much less 8 .....

I hope it works out for them.
JOHN AND KATE REMEMBER YOUR FOUNDATION LOVE FOR EACH OTHER !!!

Leave Kate and Jon alone!!!!!! Why can't they just be allowed to raise their children in peace. Everyone wants to butt in. Jon wasn't even cheating but Kate is forced to deal with it because of the media glare. They are two of the nicest folks on the planet. It is criminal what they are being put through.
God Bless Jon , Kate & the Eight

It is time for Jon, Kate and the children to reenter the real world. No cameras, no Ps (as Kate calls them), no free plastic surgery, no free vacations, no extended periods away from your 8 children. Buy a smaller house, buy less expensive cars, lose the designer duds, shop in designer consignment shops like most mere mortals, take the kids on a camping trip instead of Disney, do vacation day trips like most people on a budget. Enjoy your children, give them parents who respect each other-a good example for the children to see so they can respect each of their brothers and sisters and themselves. Decide now, are your children and your marriage worth this committment.
When you chose to have 8 children you also have to take responsibility to try and raise them in a physically and mentally safe and happy home. Also, all of the adults in the children's life should stop the public bickering and finger pointing. Work hard to become a real family again with aunts, uncles, grandparents united, a real family. Make your only camera a pocket size digital that Kate or Jon have tucked in their shirt. pocket. You can fix this mess ...if you want to....but fix it in private.

We love the show the show at my house and especially since the children are getting older and getting their own identities.
Before you could not tell who was who–now you at least know who the boys and girls are.

No one is too blame for anything. Its life..we all have to move on and they will also. The show affords them to parent the children and love them and be there and afford them a life that otherwise would be impossible almost and all they would have is hope of accepting handouts only. This way they can be decent parents and hold their heads up.

How can they stop now and still have an income? Jon has no job now, Kate's job is promoting her books and appearances to make money. At this point they can't stop and have no money to live on. But I do agree they should stop. They have let the money and fame destroy their marriage. And I don't think it is all Kate's fault. Yes she is very controlling , but did he not suspect any of that before he married her? I felt sorta sorry for her, she at least showed some emotion at the end but Jon seems very bitter and just done, which is a shame to give up so easily when there are 8 kids involved. He kept saying he has no place, she makes the money, makes the appearances, he is feeling sorry for himself because she is out making the money, well get over it and enjoy the life it is providing for him and he kids. If they both really wanted to work it out I believe they could. I think if he stopped feeling left out and make a place for himself in this "new" life they have created he could get past his issues, and I think Kate would soften up some if he showed any interests in making in work. They both need serious help! They seem to be giving up way too easily considering they have all these children they should be thinking about . I don't feel sorry for either one of them about them saying they never expected the media attention, all the paparazzi following them, the tabloids, they said they didn't sign up for this but THEY DID. What did they think would happen when you go on national tv? They both need to stop whining and work on their marriage!

This has become a real disappointment! I use to love this show, mainly because of the children. Monday's show was a total turn-off and I don't plan to watch it again! It's obvious that TLC made Jon and Kate top priority and in the wrong way. They are done in my opinion. This show will never be the same!

People are blaming TLC?? Jon and Kate need to make the decision either to continue or stop and get their lives together. Giving up at this point would be a sin. They say they go to church, well get some help like counseling. They can make it. We all have hurdles in our lives but we have to find a solution that works. Get out of the lime light for awhile and be a normal family. I want to see them make it but its going to take work from both of them.

Sarah..may I say...I enjoyed your two cents...(and agreed with much of it) .well said. I hafta say, in all honesty.....I simply don't CARE what Jon & Kate do. I tune in to watch the shenanigans of all involved. And if the parents split up (for whatever reason) ..so what? They aren't the first...nor will they be the last couple whose marriage fails...and the kids aren't going to be all scarred up for life because of it. Dang....it chaps me to no end to hear so many ppl going off on what J & K "SHOULD" or "NEED" to do. Dang...they NEED or SHOULD do exactly as they choose. They're not kids anymore..they're all growed up, no? That's what life is about....choices...for good or for bad. And it's NONE of my business what those choices are.

From humble beginnings to this ? ... Its very sad. Kate should read her book. Multiple Blessings ! Means gift from god it was given to her for a reason, and i doubt God would be pleased. Kate claims she is doing this for her children ? HELLO (as she likes to say) whats more important -money ? or a happy, healthy home life ? It comes down to money or marriage. Kate is just plain GREEDY. Im sure by now there is enough money for the kids to go to college and them some. I used to love this show, now it makes me sad.

I FEEL THAT EVERY COUPLE THAT HAS THEIR UPS & DOWNS IN A MARRIAGE. IF THEY WEREN'T ON A REALITY SHOW WOULD WE REALLY CARE WHO (IF AT ALL) IS CHEATING ON WHO?

I FEEL THAT THEY SHOULD GO THROUGH COUPLES COUNSELING AND THEN MAYBE FAMILY COUNSELING. MAYBE JON SHOULD GO FOR INDIVIUAL COUNSELING TO HELP HIM TO DEAL WITH THE "FAME" THAT THEIR SHOW HAS BROUGHT WITH IT.

I HOPE THAT THEY CONTINUE WITH THE SHOW AS I WOULD STILL TUNE IN TO SEE WHAT THE KIDS ARE DOING.

I also think that Kate shouldn't have opted for another season, but than, if you think about it, she has reasons. If she and Jon did get a divorce, chances may be that she ends up with the kids. If that were to happen, I'm sure Jon would still help pay for the kids, but Kate would still have to make money, while also trying to watch the kids which could get expensive, espeically with that many kids.
However, I think the main problem here is with the media. The paparazzi should leave them alone to work out their marriage, but their even getting attention from news stations which is helping to feed the problem as much as the paparazzi.

Okay seriously... just leave them alone... its there life... yeah they are on TV but it still doesnt make it right that everyone gets to judge them... no one knows if its true but jon & kate... people that are seriously this obsessed with other peoples live... need to get there own lives... those babies come before anything & thats obvious... there is no need for anyone to say they dont... in every enterview i have seen kate give she always says we love ours kids very much & they come first... so leave me alone.

I think that if they are true Christians then John/Kate and the public should leave these children off the show now. They are exploiting them!!
how pitiful for the almighty dollar, but what's worse are those lives.
8 of those children. The media needs to butt out and God and faith
of Jon and Kate. Forgive one another-John the ball seems like it is in your court. Kate while angry needs to hear two things:
1. I am soo sorry.
2. I think I can desire you again once we have time and space.

Such a waste! You know what would boost your ratings if you are still committed to the huge child/marital exploitation? Get them both to "forgive" and open up about feelings and why. Pull in Dr. Phil, see what happens. This show would sky rocket showing everyone we are human and make mistakes. But John and Kate are "cocky" about money, fame, and their narcissistic looks.
This is what I think.
Take it from someone that has been there, affairs, divorce the works no one wins but the media and attorney's!
the children and parents both lose.
You change your whole family's fate for generations to come.
Sleep on that one with your infideles in your bedroom. You are not escaping you are self destructing.
What an opportunity both have and you are BLOWING IT!!!
Eight little lives looking up to you.