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March 17, 2009

'Battlestar Galactica' at the UN

Posted: 09:07 AM ET

Fantasy and reality will collide Tuesday night at the United Nations, as writers and actors from the Sci Fi Channel’s hit “Battlestar Galactica” meet UN representatives to discuss issues such as human rights, children and armed conflict, and terrorism. Also on the agenda: dialogue among different civilizations and faiths. The meeting happens just days before the two-hour final episode of the show airs Friday.

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Actors Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell will appear at the United Nations Tuesday.

Commander William Adama and President Laura Roslin – at least, the actors who play them (Edward James Olmos and Mary McDonnell) – will meet with several UN representatives. Two executive producers and writers will also participate. Whoopi Goldberg, purportedly a big fan, will moderate this historic meeting of minds.

I briefly chatted Monday with Dave Howe, president of the Sci Fi Network, about the importance of the United Nations event.

“Traditionally, sci-fi has always been an opportunity to look at the human condition, and then extrapolate out. Science fiction has always held up a mirror to society and to humanity, and has asked tough questions about where are we going, and whether we’re going in the right direction, and that’s the nature of Battlestar Galactica,” Howe said.

The new “Battlestar Galactica,” which re-imagined the original 1978 series by the same name, has developed a cult following of devoted fans since it debuted as a miniseries in 2003. Since the beginning, when the Cylons annihilated the human colonies and forced the only survivors into outer space, we have been diligently keeping track of who’s a human and who’s a Cylon, and pondering whether they can ever truly coexist in peace. The final confrontation between factions on Friday will be the show’s final word on the future of both races.

It will also be the final word on the identity of Kara “Starbuck” Thrace, who keeps hearing that she is the “harbinger of death.”

(Incidentally, am I the only one still rooting for her and Captain Lee “Apollo” Adama to get together for more than just a quickie? Given that Lee’s father, the commander, already thinks of Kara as a daughter, their union would make family gatherings, like their equivalent of Thanksgiving, all the more pleasant.)

For the uninitiated, the whole concept of the show can be explained in the opening credits for the first season: “The Cylons were created by man. They rebelled. They evolved. They look and feel human. Some are programmed to think they are human. There are many copies. And they have a plan.” So: Humans made robots, and they evolved, and some of them are virtually indistinguishable from humans, and conflict ensues.

We fans appreciate that this is not a “good guys vs. bad guys” space battle. The show’s four seasons have been jam-packed with difficult ethical questions. From the torture of a pretty Number Six Cylon aboard the Pegasus to a suicide bombing campaign to the hiding of a child who represents the “face of things to come,” we viewers are constantly challenged to think outside the box and tackle issues that are just as pertinent in our own world.

The characters that may seem evil in one episode may suddenly look heroic in the next. Even Dr. Gaius Baltar, the dreamy ladies’ man who was told in the most recent episode that he had never done anything that wasn’t selfish, and who is responsible for much violence and destruction, is still somehow lovable. On Friday, he may finally redeem himself.

Incidentally, the Sci Fi Channel just announced that it’s renaming itself “SyFy” on July 7.

–Elizabeth Landau, CNN.com Writer/Producer

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Jennifer   March 17th, 2009 9:40 am ET

I am really going to miss this show. It's the best show on TV, in my opinion. SOOO many twists and turns, and I'm with you on Apollo and Kara. They really need to get together before this show is over.

AYMichalak   March 17th, 2009 9:41 am ET

I am a huge fan of BSG and a supporter of the UN. Seeing two of my interests merge is quite exciting! I am absolutely devastated the show is ending this week but I understand the need for it. I much rather the creators end it where they see fit as opposed to dragging it out unnecessarily. The acting, costuming and visual effects are all superb; but the true heart of the show is the excellent writing (its Peabody Award speaks for itself). I have honestly lost count of the times I've found the show to reflect real-life, often controversial issues. THANK YOU RON MOORE AND BSG's CAST AND CREW! I will really frakking miss the way BSG not only entertained me, but challenged me to think every week.

Angela   March 17th, 2009 9:49 am ET

No, Ms. Landau, you are not the only one hoping Lee and Kara end up together. They have gone through so much together and deserve to be happy. I am sad to see the show end, but even sadder that the Academy of Television Arts and Sciences never gave it the Emmys it deserved. Those who stayed away because of the "Sci Fi" label truly missed a great drama. Their loss. Kudos to everyone involved on BSG. Rarely does the medium rise above the commercial dreck on the airwaves to actually create a work of art. We were truly blessed!

Jeff   March 17th, 2009 10:09 am ET

Come on...to be a fan of the show is one thing, but these are just actors here. The UN has been losing credibility for some time now, and this just may be the finishing touch.

Rakesh   March 17th, 2009 10:25 am ET

Maybe off-topic but I just wanted to say that I really really like battlestar Galactica.

David   March 17th, 2009 10:26 am ET

I love the show. Nice write-up, and I'm glad to hear that the creators and actors are extending the message that has developed beyond the television screen.

Dr. Awesome   March 17th, 2009 11:04 am ET

Sweet. BSG was well-done.

Shondell Baker   March 17th, 2009 11:19 am ET

My show is leaving the air thats all i have to say Good Bye Battle Star Galactia. I'll miss you.

edelmana@colonie.org   March 17th, 2009 11:53 am ET

I knew it was real!!!

Michael   March 17th, 2009 12:12 pm ET

*Admiral William Adama

Starbucks Coffee   March 17th, 2009 12:16 pm ET

are you frackin kidding me?

Melissa   March 17th, 2009 12:19 pm ET

No, you are NOT the only one who hopes Starbuck and Apollo will settle down in the interest of more harmonious family gatherings!

TinaTeach   March 17th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

I love BattleStar and I am sorry to see it go.
"SyFy"? Come on!

thadea   March 17th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

What can you say except LOL!

Gisabun   March 17th, 2009 12:22 pm ET

I've watched I believe every episode of the latest incarnation of BG [those gaps between seasons and then even splitting seasons in 2 dodn't help!]. I also watched some of the original series.

Funny how the word "frack" [instead of that 4 letter word] is getting to be as common as minyon [sometimes spelled incorrectly as minion].

Also of note how a season back, the situation on one planet reminded many about the Iraq war.

But BG fans can breathe easier. the prequel series is expected [I believe] later on this year.

JC   March 17th, 2009 12:25 pm ET

What the FRACK?!?!? :)

RichardSRussell   March 17th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

"SyFy" — a name undoubtedly dreamed up by the same marketing geniuses who brot us the extra-small condom.

Are they really so tone-deaf that they can't see that this new name is much more evocative of syphilis than of science fiction?

At least they had the good grace to wait until Forry Ackerman was cold in the ground before perverting his acronym.

Janine   March 17th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

(Incidentally, am I the only one still rooting for her and Captain Lee “Apollo” Adama to get together for more than just a quickie? Given that Lee’s father, the commander, already thinks of Kara as a daughter, their union would make family gatherings, like their equivalent of Thanksgiving, all the more pleasant.)

Nope, you're not the only one.

Dina   March 17th, 2009 12:26 pm ET

I truly LOVED Battlestar Gallactica in the old days. This new series? Not so much. I'm glad to see it go – too much "frakkin" for me and I like Cylons looking like Cylons. And as important as the Sci Fi President may think the series is (though it must not be that important since they're canceling it), I don't see what Battlestar has to do with the UN. Maybe this story should've spent time clarifying that instead of gushing about a series with a limited fan base.

JLP   March 17th, 2009 12:27 pm ET

Perfect. TV fantasy world meets political fantasy world.

regularcoffee   March 17th, 2009 12:28 pm ET

I can think of no better way to weather the economic storm than to turn to fictional characters from the distant future (or past) to solve our problems. Whoopi will doubtless add tremendous value, given her hyper-involvement in the work of high finance. Thankfully, this meeting will take place at the UN, an organization known for its insight, effectiveness and swift action.

Clearly, if the Cylons do attack, I want the pale blue helmets on the case.

I can sleep more easily now.

Next up: The Banana Splits will comment on credit default swaps and the cast of Dancing with the Stars will attack global warming.

Dan   March 17th, 2009 12:29 pm ET

Wow. Dr. Gaius Baltar "is still somehow loveable." Some Psych grad students would have a field day turning that into a thesis on why women stay with abusive partners. He's a real fixer-upper.

Ron   March 17th, 2009 12:31 pm ET

Holy FRACK!

greg j   March 17th, 2009 12:33 pm ET

So say we all!!!!

Tom Roberts   March 17th, 2009 12:34 pm ET

Right. Hollywood influencing politics. Great direction we are heading in these days. Why should these people get a platform when all they are really good at is faking emotions and memorizing lines. Oh wait...sounds familiar.

Vincehdtvguy   March 17th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

Why did it have to end? What a great show.

Aaryck   March 17th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

yes! I love this show!! It just keeps getting better and better!!

John Kantor   March 17th, 2009 12:35 pm ET

What thinking? It's random mess of scifi, simplistic hot-button topics from today's headlines, and some weird pseudo religion. All it seems to be doing is trying to beat out Deep Space 9 for most absurd ending of a series ever.

bstone   March 17th, 2009 12:36 pm ET

Admiral Adama, not Commander. Do you really watch the show? If you did then you'd know he's an ADMIRAL.

Mark   March 17th, 2009 12:37 pm ET

Wow. Just wow.
It's about time that peoople started taking sci-fi seriously (the genre, not the channel), especcially this show. Arguably the best show on TV these days.
Man, I would love to be a fly on the wall for this meeting.

Ken   March 17th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

So say we all!

Michael K   March 17th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

Love BStar, hate SyFy. What the frack?? Why not just make 24 hours a day of ECW?

Alan   March 17th, 2009 12:38 pm ET

I like the show, but why do actor and singers always have to venture into politics? I could care less what actors and singers thing with regards to politics.

paul s.   March 17th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

THAT'S JUST FRAKKIN GREAT! LONG LIVE BATTLESTAR GALACTICA

Jim   March 17th, 2009 12:39 pm ET

SyFy? What the frack is SyFy?

Jon G.   March 17th, 2009 12:40 pm ET

No, you aren't the only one who is rooting for Lee & Kara to get together.

Another amazing show ending. I was devistated to hear it. Well, I'm grateful for what we got.

Annie   March 17th, 2009 12:41 pm ET

You are certainly NOT the only one hoping for an Apollo/Starbuck reunion. Here's hoping!

jay   March 17th, 2009 12:42 pm ET

i know bsg is ripe with moral, ethical, religious, and political issues, so forgive me this (in comparison) shallow post - but starbuck and apollo together romantically just squicks me the hell out. they are like brother and sister. and lest we forget: she was originally engaged to lee's brother, zak, which presumably is how her father/daughter relationship with bill adama started in the first place. just no.

bob   March 17th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

SyFy.. should be Sigh-Fi. The original BSG was awesome.. this new incarnation was good till episode 3-4 of the first season.. then it boiled down into a daytime soap opera that happened to be in Space. Watching an episode on Tivo takes all of 20 minutes when you take out all the boring crap.
I see a new Star Trek series starting to take it's place... but I imagine it will be a room full of people discussing space events (kinda like our current events).. and when they break for commercial.. they will show ya that they are on a space ship.. thus it's SCI-FI.

T C   March 17th, 2009 12:43 pm ET

Hey!! People!! It's just a TV show it's not real. Don't let yourself as a population slip into the same squall of craziness that trekkies have done. I don't want to see any Cylon wanna be's hanging out at the theatre for the first , "Battlestar Galactica Returns," movie.
On another note does anyone know when they'll be auctioning any BG stuff off in Vancouver? I want to turn my living room into the bridge of the, "Astral Queen," prison ship.

Gregg   March 17th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

It aint over yet folks. There is a movie in the works as well as a spinoff.

Rishi   March 17th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

BSG was the only show that was real and didn't give in to marketing products within its shows.. I guess they couldn't as there was no regard for product

Rishi   March 17th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

BSG was the only show that was real and didn't give in to marketing products within its shows.. I guess they couldn't as there was no regard for product

shawn   March 17th, 2009 12:44 pm ET

Miss Elizabeth,
How can you possibly say you think Baltar is a lovable character? And Starbuck happens to be MARRIED, even if it is to Sam (a cylon) who is connected to the Galactica.
Are you really a woman? Are you even a fan of this show? For real?

And SyFy is the new name of the Sci-Fi network? Is it because they aren't able to trademark the name "Sci-Fi"? I guess it's better than "Psi-Fi". Wait, maybe Psi-Fi is better.

As for the show being represented at the UN, that's quite amazing. But this show has proven itself to be amazing, so it's not really that big a surprise.

Jennifer   March 17th, 2009 12:45 pm ET

Puh-leeeeez. The new BSG is light years beyond the old series. I loved the old series as a child, but even I can admit much of it was cheesy and underdeveloped.

Re: "I don’t see what Battlestar has to do with the UN." Not very quick on the uptake, I see. The author article specifically stated the reason for the meeting. Scroll up. You think writers and actors shouldn't have opinions and discuss them in an open forum? Come on.

Burgy   March 17th, 2009 12:48 pm ET

Dina – the show is not being cancelled – the producers set a finite endgame for the series and stuck with it. As hard as it is to lose the show, I'm glad they didn't bastardize it like David Chase did with the Sopranos. I liked the original too, but the reimagining is superior in every conceivable way. I just hope we get some more answers in the big finale on Friday – I know they won't give us all the answers, but the more the better.

Jon   March 17th, 2009 12:49 pm ET

This seems utterly ridiculous. Who better to lecture the UN than actors who pretend to be ambassadors in a make-believe conflict? How will this accomplish anything? "The situation in Rwanda is similar to episode 3.11 where the Cylons were practicing geonocide." REAL LIFE is unscripted. This seems like a shameless promotion of the series before its finale. What a complete waste of time.

FRACK FRACKFURTER   March 17th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

FRACK ME!!

nelson   March 17th, 2009 12:50 pm ET

I have had to watch a lot of this seasons episodes on the web. I know this question may not quality here, but them again this is a fluff story.

I don't have the whole story or I am missing parts of it. Did someone write a summary so I can read and get up to date before the final episode.

I will say this show has covered a lot of sociological ground.

Doug Rich   March 17th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I really hope the UN delegates listen.

Also, syfy is so stupyd! What's wrong with scifi?

nelson   March 17th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I have had to watch a lot of this seasons episodes on the web. I know this question may not quality here, but them again this is a fluff story.

I don’t have the whole story or I am missing parts of it. Did someone write a summary so I can read and get up to date before the final episode.

I will say this show has covered a lot of sociological ground.

Sorry, this is the correct email in this post that will tell me of a follow up comment

AL   March 17th, 2009 12:51 pm ET

I believe they are coming out with a BSG but before the bombs. The main setting being Caprica. This is what a friend told me so I may be wrong.

Ed   March 17th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

This has been the one show on TV that I really didn't want to miss... I'm also glad that they included Richard Hatch from the original series ... Too bad it's ending but FRACK it!!!! go out while it's hot!!!
Rock on BSG!!!

JM   March 17th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

Actually, Dina – the show isn't getting canceled, they decided to end it on their own terms. Do a little research before you post.

When I first heard about this show, I wasn't convinced that I would like it because I'm not really into the whole cheesey alien vs human battles in space. When I saw the mini-series sometime during season 2, my jaw dropped and I have been hooked ever since. It is very much a character-driven drama with an abundance of real-world issues (not exactly the same world, but you get it) that come to light.

This is the best, most beautifully written show on TV and I will surely miss it.

One of Six   March 17th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

Dina – this was a planned ending, not the show being cancelled.

I would also love to see Lee and Kara get together. I will miss the show greatly, and have hopes for Caprica. It's been a fracking good show with excellent writers, directors, special effects teams, and not to mention actors.

Tim   March 17th, 2009 12:52 pm ET

This is just sick, "I'm not an expert on cultural relations, but I play one on TV." Oops, actually, I play a militaristic, nuke wielding, jack-booted thug who contemplated tit-for-tat genocide on multiple occassions.

Classic...

I'm a big fan of the TV show (sadly, I realize it's just a show!)

kaydeedee   March 17th, 2009 12:53 pm ET

To Dina: the show wasn't canceled. The creators of the show chose the end date and are wrapping up the story exactly how and when they want it to end.

PDL   March 17th, 2009 12:54 pm ET

Agree with regularcoffee...it is not that any one of us won't have a great idea, but we have decide to elevate media-popular people to some sort of higher knowledge state. YGBSM...or in terms of BG...what the frack?

lanestir   March 17th, 2009 12:54 pm ET

"I can think of no better way to weather the economic storm than to turn to fictional characters from the distant future (or past) to solve our problems. Whoopi will doubtless add tremendous value, given her hyper-involvement in the work of high finance. Thankfully, this meeting will take place at the UN, an organization known for its insight, effectiveness and swift action.

Clearly, if the Cylons do attack, I want the pale blue helmets on the case.

I can sleep more easily now.

Next up: The Banana Splits will comment on credit default swaps and the cast of Dancing with the Stars will attack global warming."

LOL, awesome insights JLP–how about the survivor all stars taking over the boardrooms at places like AIG and other corporate giants?

Jeffrey J.   March 17th, 2009 12:56 pm ET

How can someone as ignorant as Whoopi Goldberg possibly moderate a meeting of the minds?

Mike from NJ   March 17th, 2009 12:56 pm ET

Great show. Looking forward to the final episode.

Jackie   March 17th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

I've been saying that Lee and Kara should be together forever, I'm glad someone agrees. :)

Ramoth   March 17th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

Can't wait to see this Finale... and I can say this, if there are problems with its airing, network issues, Comcast having issues, etc... Then there will likely be rioting in the streets outside Sci Fi's headquarters...

Just the same as if there would have been rioting in the streets, if Heath Ledger had not won an Academy Award, Posthumous.

Fans have been waiting.

Waiting for 30 years to see this Finale. Waiting 30 years to learn the ultimate fate of the great Galactica herself, and the rest of the Human, and Cylon Races. Waiting 30 years to for the answer to the question, "what happened, and whats going to happen now?"

The discovery of Earth halfway through this final Season could not have been handled any better. To arrive at Earth, only to find her a nuked out shell of her former self, couldn't have been more perfect. I think many fans were dreading the idea of a BSG1980 remake within this new Series; in relation to how Earth is found and what they do there. finding Earth the victim of a nuclear war, instigated by the original Cyclons thousands of years prior was the perfect answer. It tells us fans that this Show could have been set somewhere in our distant future.

My only regret with this Series... was Dirk Benedicts refusal to be involved, because I absolutely loved Richard Hatchs involvment! Would have been wild to see Dirk Benedict make an appearance on the Cyclon side; smoking a cigar...

Mark   March 17th, 2009 12:57 pm ET

I was trying to find the perfect way to say what I thought of the article....then I read what regularcoffee had to say and there it was....

I cannot say it any better so I will simply say...

....amen brother, amen.

Now, if they can just get the Partridge Family to work on immigration reform and the Mod Squad (the original group not the lamo replacements) to tackle the drug trade.

As for Baltar, I can only be grateful that he is fictional and as such does not have the ability to propagate.

it's just a t.v. show   March 17th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

get William Shatner to give his SNL "Get a Life...its just a tv show" speech to these UN idiots wasting time debating with air head actors. And oh boy woppie really adds credibility...NOT! Any wonder why the UN is irrelevant and a laughing stock.

SG   March 17th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

See, the difference here "regularcoffee" is that the cast of DWTS doesn't have to do anything controversial or outside the box. BSG episodes constantly reflect the problems going on in our society. It pushes viewers to stop thinking about the world in black and white, but the various shades of grey in between.

That aside, I am going to miss this show so much. I am glad that the actors and writers are concerned about our world (at least someone is...).

Haruchai   March 17th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

This new BSG is absurd. The very fact that handguns, smoking, and of all things NUCLEAR bombs are used in a civilization supposedly so advanced is ridiculous. At least with THE original series the science supported the advancement. In this "new" series I was all for the Cylons who seemed to project a one-God belief over many. Now you have humans realizing they were Cylon all along...the whole plot is just some poorly constructed soap opera.
...and now ACTORS are going to the UN to tell the General Assembly what's wrong in the world...
Do something beneficial with you lives...force the UN to take a position against terrorism and pass an international law to make it a punishable crime. Hold the countries responsible housing these groups accountable to the same measure of the terrorist act.

ThatSinkingFeeling   March 17th, 2009 12:58 pm ET

BG as a show evolved from really good TV into buying its own press too much. Ever since they won the Peabody they have tried to hit us over the head with how "different" this show is. It turned me off. I thought the SF special on how great the show was almost funny.

It seems to be a weekly question of - what character will royally screw another character only to forget it later on? Usually it's Apollo defying his father for the umpteenth time only to be forgiven later. It's a good show but it lost its way somewhere. I have DVRed the last season and I can't say I feel all that compelled to watch it.

Tom   March 17th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

BSG, sorry to see you go. Loved the first one and really love this one. Frackin eh.

KTD   March 17th, 2009 1:00 pm ET

Cy-Fy seems more appropriate.

Phil   March 17th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

To Dina: I'm sorry you don't like the new BSG. I suppose great writing, fantastic actors, incredible CGI and thought provoking TV isn't for everyone. Secondly, the show wasn't cancelled. The creators had a pre-planned story arc and ending from the beginning and it is ending by the creators choosing, not the network's. Thirdly, the correlation between the show and the UN was clarified in the first few paragraphs. Perhaps you should actually read the article before you criticize it.

I have been a fan of the new BSG since day 1. It's a sad that this show is ending but it's great that it's going out on it's own terms and will not have to worry about "jumping the shark". I sincerely hope they leave the door open for the occasional "special movie event" type shows. Expanding on the short webisodes they have would be a great idea. Vive la Frak!

KTD   March 17th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

Maybe even PsyFi?

Tony L. - Atlanta   March 17th, 2009 1:01 pm ET

I'm a fan of the show, but not sure how it garnered enough credibility to address the U.N.? What's going on?

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bigfoot   March 17th, 2009 1:02 pm ET

i'm not into all things sci-fi, but i have watched this show since it began. the character development and unfolding drama remain unparalleled in any other series and have made me a devout fan. i love you, BSG, and am sorry to say adieu, but i know this incredible intensity can't be kept up forever.

Patrik Wagner   March 17th, 2009 1:02 pm ET

This is pretty sad. I respect these people as actors, but thats exactly what they are. Stay out of global politics, its not your field. If it were, you would be a politician instead!

The UN needs to get its stuff together.

Paul   March 17th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

I have to agree with the posters questioning why this event has any significance. Is it simply a chance to talk about BSG? Or does someone actually expect something meaningful to come from this? I guess I can see UN's cultural wing getting involved, but I can't see actors as having any better insights into World Affairs than anyone else. Unless, of course, there has been a lot of terrorism going on in Vancouver in the last 4 years.

And, yes, it is sad to see BSG go.

Hunter   March 17th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

The SciFi channel, being one of the most mismanaged programming networks on television is in no position to offer anyone pointers, insight or advice. The SciFi channel doesn't understand nor please its core audience, they abandoned their original charter more than a decade ago. Like G4, they think that any skew in programming reaches more viewers not less. This time next year, SyFy will be indistinguishable from Spike and G4. They will be competing for the same audience as well. In the end, SyFy will loose it's fight to the internet and likely be absorbed by USA. They have nothing the UN wants or needs.

Trox   March 17th, 2009 1:04 pm ET

I loved the old BSG series and at first, was turned off by the new series. However, I drifted back and forth until the last half of this season. It really is more like life than any other series. It has personality conflicts, ethical decisions and the normal struggles of life. Yet, despite all the darkness at times, there arises hope and triumph. Sure, it's not easy. Life never is. Yet man survives. Whether today or in a fictional television show man will endure, overcome and adapt. Hopefully, for the better.

Alex   March 17th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

This version of BSG is so much better than the 70's tripe.
I find it interesting that the article author failed to mention that Battlestar Galactica won a Peabody Award.
Science Fiction has always been a venue for pushing envelope on social commentary, It was the original Star Trek that featured an interracial kiss between Kirk and Uhura (Shattner and Nichols) at a time when interracial marriage was still illegal in much of the country.

Ken, Centreville, VA   March 17th, 2009 1:05 pm ET

Olmos is great. I can't get enough of the guy.

Clay Black   March 17th, 2009 1:07 pm ET

SyFy... are you serious?!?!? This has to be the dumbest and back stabbing move towards the scifi genre ever.

I guess if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. By the way, SciFi started going down hill with the introduction of wrestling. Albeit wrestling is a form of fantasy (not real for the un-initiated), doesn't belong on SciFi.

Any other stations out there reading this...Please create a true Science Fiction channel!!!!!

End of line....

Greg   March 17th, 2009 1:08 pm ET

Being a big fan of the original series, I didn't really think I'd get into the new BSG. However, I never even think about the old series now. The new series has much more human issues ... more inner conflict. Great job !!! If only I could have gotten into the new Dr. Who. Sorry, the old Dr. Who still dominates.

chris   March 17th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

a show that seems to go all over the place and weird, meets an entity that almost does nothing, but supposedly is important.
I don't know what to make of that.
BSG i think could have been far better, but then again i haven't seen the end, and perhaps the UN could show us what its really around for as well. What is the point is what i am trying to say. Just like all this BSG nonsense that turned it into a soap opera.
Have politics and melodrama made the UN nothing more then an impotent facsimile?

Dave - Columbus   March 17th, 2009 1:09 pm ET

I like BG, but I don't think they (the actors) are the best to discuss human issues. Actors live so far up in the clouds, they wouldn't know real life if it bit them in the butt. Especially Whoopi! And I have always thought the UN was weak and more or less worthless. Now I am positive about that.

AB Miller   March 17th, 2009 1:10 pm ET

I just hope Palin dies in the the final episode.

Bun   March 17th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Baltar "loveable"? Uh, no. He's repulsive, actually. The rest of the show is spectacular, though, and I will dearly miss it. Apollo/Starbuck = FTW!

Randall   March 17th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Honestly...how is it any different having actors going to NY than DC?

BSG is/was a decent series...but like SW, B5 and DS9...when you run the original story line to its end, it is better to end than let it linger on life support.

eeskatyel   March 17th, 2009 1:11 pm ET

Tsk tsk, either ADMIRAL Adama was demoted or somebody didn't do their geek fact checking!

Roberto   March 17th, 2009 1:12 pm ET

Cudos to all who took the original 1978 series concept (which was pretty bad most of the time) and made it into BSG. Outstanding writing, actors, set design, and most of all, thought provoking story line.

I will miss all of it. I can only hope that those involved go on to bigger and better things.

Darin   March 17th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Whereas usually interesting, Battlestar Galactica seems a bit too high on its horse. I'm ready for it to be over. The arrogance of the show's "creative" team is demonstrated in the wholly uninspired costumes, sets, props, and language. Perhaps they had to dumb down so many elements to communicate with a 21st century uneducated or unimaginative audience. I suppose the show's budget primarily goes to the actors whose performances ARE attractive. Come on...it's science fiction (sci fi, not "sy fy" - WTF?)! Show us a bit more imagination! I want something extra-ordinary and beyond my common, daily experience.

USNinja   March 17th, 2009 1:13 pm ET

Figures.... What a horrible series this was. The Truth will be revealed - yes, that you're cancelled.

Horrible scripts, full of melodrama, meaningless plot-twists, decent acting though. Let it go the way of other cancelled shows.

You can't insult thousands of dedicated fans and expect to go on.

Amy   March 17th, 2009 1:14 pm ET

I'm in a bittersweet kinda mode this week. I am so looking foward to the end of BSG, but then, I'm not sure what I'll watch that will make me connect with a tv show so much. (And I want Apollo and Starbuck together too!)

BSG Fan   March 17th, 2009 1:16 pm ET

Republicans are like Cylons: They look human, but caused the destruction of the human race and economy. Frakkin Republicans should be shot into the sun.

Nicole   March 17th, 2009 1:17 pm ET

Nobody seems to be concerned that we have hollywood actors representing our country by going to the UN to talk about "human rights, children and armed conflict, and terrorism"?? We are more concerned about the show not being around anymore? When most of us can't even get our local representatives on the phone to talk to how does Hollywood get UN access? And also isn't this what our government should be doing? You know the people we pay and elect to represent us, the people?

Julius   March 17th, 2009 1:18 pm ET

Dr. Gaius Baltar “is still somehow loveable.” Does any one else think this trend of turning mass murders into heroes as disturbing? Hell, but he does make the killing of children by Darth Vader pale in comparison even though he didn't actually know what he was doing. Well time for me to go out and commit mass murder. Just Kidding! (Don't take me seriously!)

Andrew in Dearborn MI   March 17th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

Who's frakkin lame brain idea is SyFy? The fake space coaster hosting a UN gathering? Kara and Lee together? Nooooo you're not my father!

What the frak is this world coming to!

Duane   March 17th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

For the naysayers, I believe that you've totally missed the point of the re-imagined version of Battlestar Galactica. It's not about the science fiction. It's about humanity and how we act, react and interact with each other and, as with the storyline of Battlestar Galactica, under extreme conditions.
Contrary to popular belief, not every actor, producer, etc., is out there to simply promote themselves and their careers in hopes of monetary gain and social accolades. Some, as with the cast and crew of Battlestar Galactica, have a lifetime of experience that they can share with others and hopefully help spark ideas to help solve some of our worlds issues. It doesn't matter if you're an actor, a janitor, a cook, a politician, whatever. We simply have to start somewhere.

SparkyGump   March 17th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

SyFI?! Another sign of the dumbing down of America. BSG is way better than the orignal. Better plots, better effects, beter all the way. My wife is really upset that it's going away. "All good things..." I tell her. Humanity will not find peace untill it does truly unite. It's nice to see Admiral Adama and President Rosyland speak with the UN but I don't think it will ultimately help. Unfortunately, I subscribe to the Star Trek school of though when it comes to uniting us; that we must destroy ourselves in order to unite. In that universe, we nuke each other and the survivors unite and evolve.

jim   March 17th, 2009 1:19 pm ET

I can't wait for the take-off porno movie where there's less talk and more frakking.

Andy   March 17th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

Adama found out that there are fracking Cylons in the fracking UN trying to enslave and/or destroy humanity. Frack the UN.

Doug   March 17th, 2009 1:20 pm ET

I really like the new Battlestar Galactica. However, I am sick and tired of actors' and entertainers' delusions of grandeur. They are ACTORS! NOT POLITICIANS.
We all remember the commerical back in the 80's when some soap opera actor did a commercial for a pain reliever and said, "I'm not a doctor, but I play one on TV" right? We still laugh at the line today. Well, this is the same thing. "I'm not a politician, but I play one on TV". You're abosolutely right, you do play one on TV. And you do a fine job pretending. But, there are people (believe it or not) that are much smarter than you who have studied many years to be political leaders. LET THEM DO THEIR JOB!
This all smells like one big advertising campaign for a TV show. Our world leaders have now become commercial outlets for television.

Rob   March 17th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Fiction in general, and sci-fi in particular, has always been a useful tool in getting people to think about real world events, mindsets,etc. Archie Bunker and racism, Star Trek and the first "interracial kiss", this version of BSG with the suicide bombers on New Caprica... If you talk to people about a hard subject straight on, they immediately fall into whatever preconceived positions they already have (liberal, conservative, pro-this or that, etc). If you sneak them into it by presenting it as happening in a made up world in a different time with different players, then they don't start from that same position, and you can have an honest dialogue. They may still end up believing what they believed before, but now they had a chance to actually think about it and understand why they feel that way.
Getting to that point of understanding their rationale is always worth the discussion, whatever the medium used to get there.

rob   March 17th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

WTF...

sam   March 17th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

Dina: Your comment about why this doesn't relate to the UN clearly shows that you don't understand the show, and perhaps have not even watched one episode fully to see its parallels with our present. Additionally, if you don't care for it, why are you even commenting here?

Rich   March 17th, 2009 1:21 pm ET

I've always thought it interesting that in all their "jumps" through the galaxy they have never encountered any intelligent life apart from themselves. Even the cylons, of course, are a product of human technology. They have found a few planets with plant and animal life (always seemingly identical to Earth-type). Is this a silent commentary on the probability of life throughout the universe? Are they (we) the only ones here in a vast universe?

Dana Kincaid   March 17th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

I'm not sure that Admiral Adama would be a person that the UN would like to meet. Considering his past, I'm sure he'd be happy to tell the UN to go frak themselves.

"You're telling me that you can't find ANYWHERE on this gods damned planet for my people? Frak you! Colonel Tigh, take out every commsat in orbit around this miserable planet. We'll see how well they do when they can't talk to each other. Notify the Base Ship that the President and I are on the way back up."

Caleb   March 17th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

BSG teaches us that every individual is important and through all the hardship we must protect individual rights or risk becoming an oppressive tyranny. The UN would sacrifice rights and freedoms of the citizens of sovereign and free nations to have more control, money and power. The UN is anti-individual and anti-American-people. The UN is impotent against extremist governments and is not protecting oppressed people anywhere. So what the Frak are they doing besides spending our hard earned money on third world dictators?

BSG is awesome but FRAK the UN.

Andreas   March 17th, 2009 1:23 pm ET

i'll miss the show, it's pretty much the only one i watch all week, (lie tome, house & 24)

YummyDrFood   March 17th, 2009 1:24 pm ET

I'm a fan of BSG, but I fail to see why we should care that the stars and writers of the show managed to get a few hours of the UN's time. Why should we care that actors and writers get a say at the UN? Are their opinions more valuable than the hundreds of experts that the UN should be listening to? In short, what exactly does the UN hope to accomplish with this "historic meeting of minds" other than publicity?

As an aside, the cute little word "SyFy" sounds like an attempt to sound "cool" and "hip". It's alot like replacing an "s" with a "z" at the end of a word, which was puerile and annoying even back when it was popular.

John   March 17th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

I spent the first 3 years watching BSG and hearing my wife question me about it. She finally gave it a chance when the show cam back for the "Final Episodes" and is hooked!

dukeofdoom   March 17th, 2009 1:25 pm ET

Love the show best there is, but what the heck do the show’s actors know about UN issues. If you listen to most of their interviews, just about all of them are self absorbed prima donnas that live in some alternate reality. I hate to think that their opinions would be mistaken as the opinion of the average non-celebrity working person.

Kakarrot   March 17th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

I FRACKIN LOVE BSG! But i think the UN is a bunch of spineless idiots furthering thier own agenda. Hey! Just like congress!

zac   March 17th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

Jeff March 17th, 2009 10:09 am ET

Come on…to be a fan of the show is one thing, but these are just actors here. The UN has been losing credibility for some time now, and this just may be the finishing touch.

This comment was made by someone with limited intellect and imagination, if you watched and understood the show, you would realize your shortcomings.

Scott   March 17th, 2009 1:26 pm ET

This is great. Maybe Quagmire from Family Guy can talk to the UN about the need for safe sex after that.

StarbuckFan   March 17th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

I just discovered the show a few weeks ago. Countless DVDs later, I am forever indebted to the show. It is intense and complicated...just like humanity itself.

PS: I am rooting for Starbuck and Apollo as well :)

Jarrett   March 17th, 2009 1:27 pm ET

It's shameful, that there is in sum a paragraph and a half about the ACTUAL meeting between hollywood and the UN and the possible ramifications and significance about this and the rest is a recap of why someone like BSG (Battle Star Galactica), we are on the internet, reading the story, we can look up BSG, how about actually reporting on something. This is almost just as bad as how CNN changes the tagline for stories and then just shows the same story over when you click on the link

Dante   March 17th, 2009 1:28 pm ET

As a fan, I have been extremely disappointed by BSG's final episodes...It has failed to deliver on any of it's promises and is muddled in a morass of gobbledy-gook. There has been absolutely NO Action – Just like the UN, I guess. ln the end both fail to do anything but disappoint and dash my high hopes.

Slugbait   March 17th, 2009 1:29 pm ET

Everybody spelling 'frak' with the letter 'c' are obviously fans of the original series...in the current series, it's a four-letter word.

sj   March 17th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

BSG certainly a loss! But conclusion will be great. My prediction is a time warp that will provide them ability to go back... That is how Starbuck came back.

Richard   March 17th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

UN? When will people get it, actors act. They follow a script, and when they do it well, they appear to be someone who they are not! Popular? Yes. Significant? Only to entertain. Asking an actor is like giving tax money to banks... oh.. we did that already. What next?

Jon   March 17th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

Well... I guess this is better then UN officials meeting with people looking for bribes like they usually do.

manostorgo   March 17th, 2009 1:30 pm ET

I've enjoyed the show and am quite familiar with the UN. But the combination of the two seems silly.
Also, Ron Moore may have brought a new vision to this story and infused the plot with some interesting questions. However, he has also made things up as he's gone along for no reason other than to create artificial twists that are inorganic from the storyline he himself created.

The UN would be better served looking at the various international versions of "Idol" or "Deal or No Deal", "Who Wants to be a Millionaire" and how we as a race have so much in common when the basic concept of a show garners so much international viewership that it spawns copies across the globe. THAT would be a more worthwhile subject.

Dave   March 17th, 2009 1:32 pm ET

I think those of you criticizing the article, the series and the UN have missed the point.
The point of the series was to make you think about good and evil and to show that the world is more gray than we like to admit, and that our supposed "enemies" are more like us than we care to think about.
The fact the new series was different than the original was daring, but it worked. I enjoy the new series much more than the old, and I was one of the ones ready to criticize it when it came out.
The U.N. is an organization that exists for the possibility of what the human race may someday be, that we can take conflicts to a universal body for resolution, rather than towards war.
The series points out that we all need to think about our differences and how to get along despite our differences in this shrinking world. However, we have to work it out ourselves, there is no magic formula for this, just trial and error.

Randy   March 17th, 2009 1:33 pm ET

I'm one of the cult followers of BSG and have really enjoyed following the story of this show. I'm really gonna miss it. However, on a separate note, I hate to see it when actors and actresses discuss political issues with people in government.

jej   March 17th, 2009 1:34 pm ET

Perhaps the actors should simply remember that they are actors in a show written by talented writers. Not to take anything away from the actors, writers or the show, of which I am a big fan. Leave the UN stunts to the politicians.

Cylon Banker   March 17th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

The real reason for the ending of the show: President Roslin is waaay behind on her payments for Galactica... It seems she originally took out a 5 year ARM, and now the First Universal Bank of Cylons are nailing her with a interest rate that is out of this world. FRACK! :-)

Bill   March 17th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

@ JLP;

I laughed out loud at that comment.

"Perfect. TV fantasy world meets political fantasy world."

One shot, one kill. That was beautifully, perfectly, flawlessly executed.

RG   March 17th, 2009 1:35 pm ET

Jeff...Ronald Reagan was once "just an actor".

Bigtime BSG fan   March 17th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

Haven't missed an episode of BSG, and I will miss the show myself.

Glad to see them getting involved with the issues...

Lance Myhan   March 17th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

I love the show (never missed an episode) but to state this show is a political statemtent to modern day human rights issues is too outlandish. They are robots! Get over it.

Shrike   March 17th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

The great thing about BSG is that it is based in the reality of the human condition. It is not the Star Trek version of the future where humans all get along, don't war with each other and only have altruistic motives towards new races and civilizations. Starships and the backdrop of space aside, it is about normal people and their highs and lows. Humans are an aggressive territorial species. This should not be news to anyone. Peace is not a natural state for us. War drives innovation and increases our capacity to appreciate the lulls. If we did not have these traits, we would not have evolved past the capabilities of a herd of passive sheep. Peace is won through superior firepower. Where am I going with this? The UN looks and acts alot like those hypothetical human sheep. Wanting to placate aggressor states and continually supporting failed states without actually having the force to accomplish anything. baaa.

Oh yeah, and I'm really going to miss BSG. My favorite show.

John   March 17th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

It was a continous conference. I never saw an episode that kept me interested. If you like meetings, and assemblies this is the show to watch. It's a show for bureacrats.
I don't know how a true sci-fi fan could sit and watch meeting after meeting and still be interested. If any action did happen it lasted a split second. The entire show was daily life inside a ship (studio) in a struggle for survival. The human villans were worst than the cylons. the closer they get to earth the more I fear they are going to get here, and start another conference. Hopefully I didn't just give away the ending.

Noel Larsen   March 17th, 2009 1:36 pm ET

Loved the show, but got tired of the endless infomercials and 5 min of commercials then 4 minutes of program. (and SciFi's constant barrage of annoying, oversized, screen-clogging promos while you're trying to watch a program.

What the FRAK?   March 17th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

You guys all misspelled the fraking word. There is no C. just one single K.

I love Gaius too.

Martin   March 17th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

The UN's a joke, and, much as I love BSG, it's just silly for the cast to meet w/ the UN.

That being said, I think BSG fans should just be happy if Lee and Kara ARE BOTH ALIVE at the end of the series. It looks like plenty of regulars will meet their demise.

MrSilverZ   March 17th, 2009 1:37 pm ET

Best show on television.

It will be missed.

Emerson   March 17th, 2009 1:38 pm ET

I look forward to the end of this great series; I watched the first three seasons, but then had to stop because I was deployed to Iraq. Now I'll finally be able to catch up without worrying about accidentally watching an episode out of order :) The show had its ups and downs, and sometimes drove me insane, but it is indeed one of the best shows out there, and definitely is in the top 3 sci-fi series ever. Now, if only this trend of quality TV would continue...

Oh wait. SyFy? That's almost a candidate for WAE (Worst... Acronym... Evar).

And they want to make the channel less geeky? I wonder how they plan on doing that? More WWE?

Bruce   March 17th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

You'd think the BSG cast would know that dealing with the Cylons/UN will only result in a ship/country that ends up needing to be abandoned.

BSG and the UN. Two things I'm ready to see come to an end.
So say we all.

MG   March 17th, 2009 1:39 pm ET

This is a good move for the UN, and will lend them some credibility they have sorely lacked lately. With the 'what world are they living in?' feeling they have engendered for the last several years, it is fitting that actors playing characters from another world will try to bring the UN back to this one. Good luck, and may the gods (of logic and sanity) be with you. So say we all.

Saul Tighe   March 17th, 2009 1:40 pm ET

"Dead-Bolt that Frakin Door!"

Michael   March 17th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

Battlestar Galactica has been an enormous Friday night success for me. I know all things must end, but I'm really going to miss this series. I'm so happy to see writers who have gotten out of cliche' writing and become truly adventurous – like this series has. Would love to see what this writing team could have really gotten away with on a non-censored cable channel like HBO or Showtime! – maybe something in the future perhaps...

dc   March 17th, 2009 1:42 pm ET

really? Whoppi Goldberg?!? really???? sigh...

Jeff   March 17th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

Dina...

Too much frak? Feldergarb! The old series was full of frak.

and SyFy? sigh....

charliehl   March 17th, 2009 1:43 pm ET

This show is one of the best things on television in years. The writing and acting is superb, the effects movie-quality, and the show needs to be recognized at Emmy time as the masterpiece it has been. So sad to see it end!!!!

OIiver   March 17th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

BSG is beyond SciFi. It is the smartest, coolest, and most engaging drama series on TV right now. Wayyyy better than most TV series. If you haven't seen it, atleast rent season 1. You will be hooked!!!

mark   March 17th, 2009 1:44 pm ET

So the UN is cylon?

DB   March 17th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

I'm a great admirer of the show. To call it 'science-fiction' is both limiting and a disservice to the show. TV Guide has continually called it "the best drama on television", and those who haven't watched it because of the "sci-fi" label have missed out on some truly provocative and thoughtful television. The show asks viewers to consider the definition of – and consequences of – war, philosophy, bigotry, racism, religion, family, loyalty, ethics, democracy, sacrifice, solidarity and morality.

To compare the new show with the old makes no sense – they are as different as day and night. The original was basically a children's shoot-'em-up, designed for those early Star Wars fans. The new one is a dark drama with some science fiction trappings.

And Dina, the show is not being cancelled. The producers have always had a time line for the show, with a specific ending planned.

Leham   March 17th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

Every once in a while you see really great TV. The West Wing , Stargate , BSG. They are few and far between to be sure. I think BSG Had a few more seasons in it though. Now Fracking get on with it you Fracking skin job!!!

Brian   March 17th, 2009 1:45 pm ET

I absolutely love the show, its writing, the religious references, the cultural references, the directing, the acting, there is very little in the show that can be criticized harshly. The writers of the show are very smart and have to knowledgeable about many things in order to write something like this. However I wonder if we are getting a bit out of hand when a Un delegation is being sent to some Hollywood Actors and writers over issues like human rights and dialogue between cultures and faiths. I suppose it is good to get perspective from smart people, but there are smart people and good community leaders among different cultures and faiths. Shouldn't people more directly involved in the situations be the ones addressing the UN? I suppose it says mountains about the writing and execution about the show that they are being addressed for their cultural perspective but it still seems a bit over the top.

FrankieD   March 17th, 2009 1:46 pm ET

Being old enough to have seen the first BSG, I was concerned that the writers would make this one into some fantasy; I could not have been more wrong. As an avid viewer for the past seasons, I will miss my weekly opportunity to try and figure out "what the frak is going on..."

James H English   March 17th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

Given the Navy's new tag line, "Working hard to un-man the front lines," maybe this meeting is way more germane than people are giving it credit for.

Not to mention the various advances in robotics, nanotech, and AI happening right now. These writers seem to have captured a very plausible scenario.

Naysayers, look up Vernor Vinge's paper on what he calls a "Singularity Event." That, my friends, is NOT fiction.

areyoukiddingme?   March 17th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

I am rather disappointed that Patrick Stewart, Marina Sirtis, Brent Spiner, and Johnathan Frakes will not be present for this very important session (although they did act along side Whoopie in Star Trek Next Generation). Sadly Richard Dean Anderson and Mr. Bridges will also not be in attendance. What was the UN thinking to ignore them?

This must be a joke or some alternate reality where the utterly ridiculous and the far-fetched are true.

Espresso Boy   March 17th, 2009 1:49 pm ET

So the UN thinks that actors discussing important issues is a good thing? The UN is a money wasting organization and to squander their resources on a cross marketing scheme for a TV show is shameless.

Is this what the UN is left to do to attract attention? Disgusting.

I love BSG and will miss it. It's a great TV show but how do the actors expect to contribute? By attracting attention to the issues? Great, then insert a plug for the issues during the finale and stop wasting time with the UNarmed, UNable, UNreliable.

The UN should consider how to avoid another Rwanda and stop sucking up to the entertainment business.

Angelina Jolie was busy I suppose...

Rob   March 17th, 2009 1:51 pm ET

This is no Star Trek...There's no campiness in this. This show is grim, brutal, sexual, intelligent, slow paced at times, and no one is a "hero". Religion, love, and spiritual beliefs play a huge part.

This also isn't about science, it's more about psychology and what being human means.

The UN won't like this show since it paints a mixed bag of humanity and putting up with each other to survive instead of holding hands and singing songs.

I still love the twist on Earth being the home of....ha. Great show that ran out of budget and some steam near the end, but still a great ride.

WNM   March 17th, 2009 1:52 pm ET

The new Battlestar Galactica has been great. But it has not been so great for at least 1 whole season. Everyone I know that watches it religiously has said the same thing- it has gotten way off course and seems like they are making stuff up as they go along.

It dropped a few points for me when I saw the inside of the base ship and how hokey everything looked. The hybred looks like they are laying in a kiddie pool with some slim tossed in.

It's went downhill from there. .....if this is where it's going perhaps it's best that it's going off the air.

Jason   March 17th, 2009 1:54 pm ET

I am not a big fan of Hollywood attempting to make policy. However, I don't see anyone else stepping up to the plate, so we get what we deserve for doing nothing.

Kara and Apollo can end up together for all I care. Just as long as Kara gives me the quicky!! ;) j/k

Great Job on the show guys! I am a fan!

Col. Tigh   March 17th, 2009 1:55 pm ET

The UN...frak, you'd need a full cavity search to find a backbone in that bunch.

flockof4   March 17th, 2009 1:59 pm ET

Some of these comments are hilarious. Hey, these actors can have their say at the UN. Why not? Let's just not attach any real significance to it however. As for BSG, the original was 70's camp and cheese. This new one has been edgy and well done. I have been especially impressed w/ the effects department. Awesome for a cable TV channel. One of the few shows I followed; sorry to see it go. A prequel series might be pretty good if done in a similar manner. Go BSG!

Aset   March 17th, 2009 2:03 pm ET

"I’m glad to see it go – too much “frakkin” for me and I like Cylons looking like Cylons."

I'm sorry that you feel the need to cheer quality tv leaving the air, especialy quality sci-fi. As for "cylon's looking like cylons" been there done that, this is much more interesting & compelling. As for all that "frakkin" guess you haven't seen it since season 1, too bad, you missed out on some reqlly thought provoking work.

"And as important as the Sci Fi President may think the series is (though it must not be that important since they’re canceling it),"

They aren't cancelling it, the producers are ending the series with no request to do so from sci-fi.

"I don’t see what Battlestar has to do with the UN."

I believe the following answers your confusion: "discuss issues such as human rights, children and armed conflict, and terrorism. Also on the agenda: dialogue among different civilizations and faiths" All of those issues were explored in depth on the show itself quite effectively.

"aybe this story should’ve spent time clarifying that instead of gushing about a series with a limited fan base."

First, if you had watched the show,ou would understand the reasons better, they were given. Second: as a fan of the original with an even more limited fan base, that was really mwan spirited.

Vlad   March 17th, 2009 2:06 pm ET

BSG has raised the bar – we'll see if this is the beginning of better Sci-Fi.

I hope Adama can fix things there, and I do hope Obama can fix thing here.

Ronald   March 17th, 2009 2:08 pm ET

So what the frack happens now on Friday night? It's got 2B a long reach for any replacement show/series, doubt if there's one that can unless unless Jack B hooks up with Nick Fury and S.H.I.E.L.D. Now that's a combinatiion for ya. Sci Fi to SyFy, big mistake REALLY gonna miss this show. So what the frack happens now on Friday night?

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Silvermarble   March 17th, 2009 2:34 pm ET

As a huge Sci-fi fan in general, I can't tell you how disappointed I was to find this show completely unwatchable. And I tried.

I recognize the acting was quite good. And I admit the special effects is admirable (though I've always disliked the hand-held camera instability style).

The disagreeable portion of the show to me is that I don't find it to be true Sci-fi. It's a soap opera in space. In fact, the entire plot doesn't really require space it all. The difference between the humans and cyclons could be completely redone to include humans only with different religious views (some of which keep their beliefs secret).

True Sci-fi, to me, requires the uniqueness of its environment. For example, the show Farscape would fall completely apart if someone attempted to rip it out of its surroundings.

This is not to say that BSG is not a good drama and people enjoy it as such - but I think it's inaccurate to classify it as a definitive Sci-Fi show. I know that sounds semantically snobby - but as I said, I really tried to get into this show and I felt this is the reason why I couldn't. It was like watching Desperate Housewives for me.

Emily   March 17th, 2009 2:55 pm ET

There is a question that I've been asking ever since the miniseries... Who tells Adama that there are 12 cylon models? He receives a transmission on which it is written "There are 12 models"... but who sent it? How did they know?

Can anyone help?

AstroBoy   March 17th, 2009 2:58 pm ET

The Cylons have a plan? Gimme a break... With the way the series has (pro)degressed the best you can say is that they had an intention. Any plan they may have had was thrown out the window back in Season 2.

Yet for some strange reason I keep watching.

felicia   March 17th, 2009 2:59 pm ET

As much as the issues of "human rights, children and armed conflict, and terrorism" have been touched on BSG, it's the issue made so prominent in this last season that I hope they address: How Government (Rosilyn) being in bed with the Military (Adama) is a very bad thing...it leads to glaring blind spots in each other's vision, and a willingness to accept things which they otherwise would not consider from anyone else.

It's interesting that the UN will speak to SciFi show actors (especially so well-timed for BSG's final episode...), they consider scenarios that other actors probably do not and I hope they avail themselves well. As someone mentioned, it's a shame that the crew of the venerable USS Enterprise couldn't also make a showing, they surely fit the given pre-requisites (except that their shows already ended).

BSG started out a great show which had been slipping in the last couple of seasons (IMHO). I'm glad they are choosing to end it on their own terms, though I wish they would have taken the time they really needed instead of cramming it all into one season.

Kara and Apollo seem destined, though I still waaay prefer Kara and Sam. Poor Sam.

Martin   March 17th, 2009 3:09 pm ET

Silvermarble,

Desperate Housewives??! It shows that you haven't watched the show, though Season 1 had nothing in common with D.H. nor any season since.

As a recovered s.f. fan, I have to respectfully disagree with you about BSG not being science fiction. (Though more people would have watched it w/o the sci fi type name; by the way, in my day, true s.f. aficionados never used the term "sci fi" except for derision.) good science fiction has always looked at societies with different backdrops, holding mirrors to our own society and world, just as s.f. writers have often started with "What if...?" BSG explores many themes, including What does it mean to be human? That would be completely different without the cylon skin jobs. The post-Holocaust setting has been used in many different s.f. works.

At times, BSG has veered into melodrama; but at its best, the show is brilliant drama, not melodrama. It has nothing in common w/ baubles such as desperate housewives.

Desert_SciFi guy   March 17th, 2009 3:10 pm ET

I haven't enjoyed a tv show as much as BSG since the West Wing went off the air. Fantastic storylines that are appealing and entertaining. Ron Moore is a visionary who has really taken the mantle of science fiction from folks like George Lucas and Gene Roddenberry and raised the genre to the next level. It's gritty, dark, cerebral, aggressive and spiritual all at the same time. BSG shows how humanity 'REALLY ACTS' when everything starts to fall apart, and how a few heroes rise up and lead when the chips are down. It's time for the show to end, but I'm really going to miss it. I look forward to Ron Moore's next production!

Jim J   March 17th, 2009 3:12 pm ET

Outside in the cold distance, a wildcat did growl, two riders were approaching and the wind began to howl....

Randall   March 17th, 2009 3:13 pm ET

Now...if only we could take out the DNC's and the RNC's regeneration ships...

bruce   March 17th, 2009 3:41 pm ET

i am a fan of BSG becuase the show is entertaining, but the only thing the UN is ever good for is charging american tax payers a fortune while blaiming america for everything that ever went wrong in modern human history. that and be more useless then congress and almost as corrupt, the senate still holds that record, regardless of which party runs it.

NotaCylon   March 17th, 2009 3:51 pm ET

Frak me. I'll miss this show so much. What a good drama. It's been a real interesting look at the human condition. It's a fantastically written, acted and directed drama that just happens to be set in space, sorta. Great job RDM and all!

Jackie in Dallas   March 17th, 2009 3:57 pm ET

I've only watched a few of the new "BattleStar Gallactica" episodes...I found them confusing and contradictory. While I appreciate the fact that this follows the human condition, I preferred the more clearcut original.

As for those questioning the relevance of science fiction to the UN, I would refer you to the works of Sir Arthur C. Clarke, who wrote fiction about such things as geosynchronous satellites, space stations, travel to other planets, and L orbits before the science field caught up with him. Science fiction, and to a different degree, science fantasy, reflect the human connection with the world, and how that might evolve. That is CERTAINLY relevant to the mission of the UN!

Go back and watch the movie "Starman" - where an alien civilization sends an envoy to earth after catching the original Voyager, and the alien is persecuted, hounded, and ultimately threatened with death by government agencies. Is this the real welcome to Planet Earth we want to offer?

The time to decide how to treat possible "close encounters" is before we have them, and the time to decide how laws should be followed in space should be decided by the UN. The moon, the other planets, asteroids, and ultimately, the Universe, do not belong to a single political unit on this planet, they are a heritage for all sentient beings of good will!

EricLR   March 17th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

Greatest science fiction series ever. Probably the greatest television series ever (sorry M.A.S.H., even you don't compare). The first season of this show was the most amazing thing I've ever seen on a TV screen. It makes so-called "gritty" network series look like PBS children's shows.

Ken Roberts   March 17th, 2009 3:58 pm ET

SyFy?...pathetic.

Larry   March 17th, 2009 3:59 pm ET

I love BSG, I really hate they cut the series short by one season.

"SyFy" is such a stupid name. I hate they are trying to pander to the yuppies. SciFi = SCIence FIction, what the frack does SyFy stand for?

As for the UN... I could care less about those guys. I'd gladly replace them with sexy cylons any day.

Bubba   March 17th, 2009 4:02 pm ET

SYFY is an AWFUL name, but most of their stuff is fantasy anymore.

A Rothman   March 17th, 2009 4:05 pm ET

The last two seasons have not been interesting at all. This thing has been dragged out too long between seasons. I can't remember what happened last season. I am happy to see it end and finally see the finality to many of the story arcs.

To compare BSG(2) to Star Trek is like apples and oranges. I will say that this darker gritty version is somehow appropriate with the Bush(2) years.

Chris   March 17th, 2009 4:08 pm ET

Great Show – I mainly watch it for the hot chicks...not many hot chicks at the UN...Hey! – Maybe this will help the UN!

Jackie in Dallas   March 17th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

Hey, Expresso Boy!

Maybe you should get your head out of whatever hole it is stuck in and see that Hollywood has done more for Rwanda than the UN and the US combined! They have poured in humanitarian aid, traveled there to bring hope and lots of their money to people who don't know who the heck they are but appreciate the help, and raised awareness of the difficulties there through movies, interviews, and fund-raising efforts.

It's always the same from people like you...just because some people are granted talents in the arts, they should suddenly not have opinions or beliefs in the political world. Guess what? They are usually intelligent, educated people who put their money, millions of it, where their mouths are. The Hollywood types who have put to shame FEMA and the State of Louisiana's efforts in New Orleans is another example.

And this is a very long-term tradition, or you may be too young to remember that Shirley Temple Black was appointed a delegate to the United Nations by President Richard M. Nixon in 1969. She was appointed United States Ambassador to Ghana (1974–76). She became the first female Chief of Protocol of the United States in 1976, which put her in charge of all State Department ceremonies, visits, gifts to foreign leaders and co-ordination of protocol issues with all U.S. embassies and consulates. She was United States Ambassador to Czechoslovakia (1989–92). Not bad for a "Hollywood type" child actress, huh? And taunt Angelina Jolie all you want, but she still has done more with her money in Africa, India, and a multitude of other countries trying to make life better for people than hundreds of US congressmen and women over the last 20 years.

Do you hate them because they have money and fame, or do you just hate yourself and reflect it on them? They wouldn't have money or fame if thousands or millions of people didn't appreciate their talent. And some of us appreciate the fact that they give back...

Pete   March 17th, 2009 4:14 pm ET

I agree that BSG was a very fine written and acted show but I disagree with your assessment of Gaius Baltar. This character has had numerous chances to redeem himself and has failed miserably on every occasion. I read somewhere that he was the most human of all the characters probably the truest description of the man. The fact that I feel so much animosity towards this individual shows that he may be the best acted character in the entire show.

Peter   March 17th, 2009 4:25 pm ET

If anything, this will give some positive publicity to the UN.

As for the show, I will really miss it when it ends on Friday. I hope "SyFy" (I dont like the name either) will consider additional seasons, or at least a spinoff. Kudos to the show's writers, actors and creators for keeping us interested!

Rich Adrion   March 17th, 2009 4:33 pm ET

It is important to look to the future and to plan for it now. I feel that we really don't do this enough. The world is going to be very different place in 25 to 30 years. Medical advances will be allowing people to live to 100 years or more and in good health. Is your 401k going to cover you for that long? Many jobs will be replaced by new technologies and AI. Who is going to take care of this elder population? Plans need to be laid down now for this future or it is going to be a big mess. The way that we live our lives now will not work in this future. We need to become more tribal and take care of each other instead of always looking out for #1.

Todd   March 17th, 2009 4:38 pm ET

First, Great show. The who parrellels between religion and science, faith and survival, truly give the show a much deeper moral quandry than most modern television dramas. The intricate characters and their interactive dialogue is what really pulls people in to the serise. It makes the whole feel of the environment so realistic to viewers. Its not so much a fantasy world as a realistic projection of our own turmoil as a species.

That being said, I don't know what on earth they think they will teach the UN. They are washed up politians with zero power other than flapping gums and placing jokes of sacntions to which are meaningless to the nations they are trying to punish. as if anyone in Iran or Sudan cares if they don't get their latest shipment of Brittney Spears CD's. When push comes to shove the UN always has to fall back on its big brother to take action. For once, we are too occupied to do it for them.

I just don't see how intriguing dailogue and a fantatic religious plot of conflict will ever do anything to help bloated politians with no power achieve any kind of peace. As if there was a second of peace in BSG. What the frak?

Derek   March 17th, 2009 4:41 pm ET

First of all, spell it correctly.

FRAK!

Second, if you would like to see some really cool vids compiled by a true BSG fan go to Youtube and look up "Freelancerxo02".

This woman creates great theme based vids of BSG characters.

She posts frequently in Skiffy's BSG board in the forum section of their website.

So Say We All!!!

Derek "Soldier" Tabor

Loren   March 17th, 2009 4:49 pm ET

"SyFy?" Add my vote to the "Are you frakking kidding me?" column. Stupidest idea since they added wrestling.

On the plus side, if the IQ and interest level of the channel goes down proportionately, maybe I can save some money by dropping that tier of cable channels...

BSG has been, most of the time, interesting. It's occasionally been good. It's no B5 – those episodes survive rewatching *much* better. The Cylons may have had a plan, once upon a time...but nobody, perhaps including the writers, are any closer to figuring out what it is.

James   March 17th, 2009 5:02 pm ET

So with all the pressing issues the world faces, the UN figures the best thing to do is sit around with a bunch of actors/comedians/talk show hosts and discuss human rights, armed conflict, dialogue between different civilizations etc.

So what will this solve?

Absolutely nothing, all it will do is create a bunch of blathering on fansites of BSG about how important the show is because the actors got to go to the UN. You will get a few news stories about it where we will get the inevitable politician quote about "how talking to the actors from a popular show can help shed light onto many problems we are facing" Along with some bull crap about how a made up story where they can conveniently tie up all the lose ends and the writers can decide an outcome not based on anything but how they want the story to end, can somehow be a learning tool to help the world end its problems.

yeah yeah yeah..... Coming up next on a very special episode of ......

This is nothing but grandstanding by a few UN politicians (don't kid yourself the UN is as full of politicians as Congress, Parliament, etc) and some self-righteous/self-important actors.

If those UN workers and these actors really want to make the world better, they should leave NY/Hollywood and go to an area that is troubled and work to make that place better. I can think a nice area in Iraq or Pakistan or Dafur where they can all go hang out. But of course that means no 5 star hotels, restuarants or fawning fans.

D Nelson   March 17th, 2009 5:06 pm ET

Silvermarble –

I don't know how you can say it isn't Science Fiction because the story "doesn't require space." The very fact that the show could be done with Cylons as humans is what makes it GREAT science fiction. Applicability to real life problems is the defining characteristic of real science fiction. Sure you could have an escapist story dealing with space travel and aliens being the center of the story, but that would have gotten old real fast (kind of like Farscape). BG transcends "a soap opera in space" story that you make it out to be. It deals with very real issues and delves into the human condition better than any science fiction show I have seen in a long time.

Wanderer53   March 17th, 2009 5:09 pm ET

Great show, great acting. Sorry that those that didn't like it were forced to watch it. And, they'll have to stay up nights to find a replacement half as good.

Beth   March 17th, 2009 5:13 pm ET

I hope they make another mini-series if they don't wrap up the numerous story lines and unanswered questions. I love this show and I am so sorry to see it go.

Michael Moran   March 17th, 2009 5:14 pm ET

Hmmmm . . . Lee Adama & Kara Thrace as "Adam & Eve" ?!?! Hmmmmmm !

Jeff   March 17th, 2009 5:22 pm ET

I'd rather have "Jack Bauer" advise the UN. Then, perhaps, they'd actually do something to right some wrongs.

Bubba   March 17th, 2009 5:41 pm ET

Ok, I've only been watching SciFi on television for the last 40 something years or so ( not the SciFi channel but real SciFi that came on on Saturday afternoons to fill dead air time on local channels) and thus my comments may be a bit biased but forget the BG is SciFi, it's a hell of a dramatic and superbly acted series, wonderful plot, engaging characters, if it were on a more mainstream channel it would have taken over Dallas' place on the all time hit show list.

A prequel you say, well, we'll see won't we.

Now as to actors as political representatives.. not so much..

Jillian   March 17th, 2009 8:25 pm ET

So, because they're actors, they're *not* allowed to have any voice in any political arena? They're not allowed to be heard? Their opinions, ideas, feelings are somehow less than ours because their chosen profession is entertainment? I smell a ginormous envy monster...

BSG Fan   March 17th, 2009 8:38 pm ET

Best Show on tv.... the fans of Lost can learn something from this show. BSG always had a planned start, climax and conclusion. The story was not ended due to cancellation, as it was the producer's choice to end the show when they did. They wanted the timeframe to be set to tell the end of their story.

In contrast a show like lost got excited by it's success and stretched it out so far past the show's appropriate end that it is hardly even close to the show that battlestar has always been.

I dont begrudge the negative comments on this board but as someone who at one point did not get the show but has since discovered it's true beauty, I hope that others give it the same chance that I did.

Silvermarble   March 18th, 2009 7:58 am ET

D Nelson:

Again, I'm not denying it poses questions on the human condition. That's, after all, what's makes a drama (good or otherwise).

As to your comment about Farscape getting old fast... I invite you to look up and discover how many season Farscape ran. Quite frankly, I believe that show was canceled because the plotlines were a bit too complex and required far too much prior knowledge for a casual observer to jump right in.

BSG is pretty much a single plotline redone over and over again with an extreme focus on the nuances and developments of individual characters. In other words, it's about feelings and desires (ie: drama)

Chris   March 19th, 2009 11:55 am ET

Olmos is absolutely right, the use of the word 'race' divides people and should be replaced with the word 'ethnicity' because different races are separate groups, while ethnic groups has the connotation of groups Within the human collective...

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Dana   March 21st, 2009 5:47 am ET

Cheers to the Producers, Writers, Cast and Crew!! I have rarely been so deeply moved by a television show. I will miss all of your incredible work more than I can express. Blessed you all are for having been involved in something so very special. Not only did all of you change the way TV can be, and made freindships that will last the rest of your lives (wether you see each other regularly or not), you managed to entertain so many people at so many different levels. You all challenged us to think differently. You all made us love, hate, hurt, and forgive. You all redefined what can be brought to the table in an incredibly diverse yet cohesive package. For all your efforts, you have all earned heartfelt admiration from all points. Best wishes to all of you, good luck in all your future endeavors, and above all, THANK YOU!!! Farewell.

Evan   July 31st, 2009 8:01 pm ET

SO SAY WE ALL!

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